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Om Namah Shivaya,

Dear Sourav,

Sun as 7th lord in 9th in neecha indicates that a person would like to follow the rules and tradition in intimate matters, relationships, etc. It also indicates that some decisions about the marriage or relationship will be taken in a very hard circumstances. A spouse may feel week unhappy about its status or career issues. A person may not have a sense of touch in relationship, and normally the spouse will be from a different place if Shani is in Apoklima houses and Shukra conjoins Surya. If there is a neecha bhanga and Shukra is well placed, be sure that the marriage will be a happy one. Shukra in 10th house will make them fulfill their spouse wishes, while the spouse themselves may suffer in career or health issue.

Best wishes

Zoran

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Sourav11. kolovoz 2007 5:54sohamsa Subject: Re: Upada Lagna

 

|| Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Mike, Namaskar. I quite agree with Rafal-ji here. Neecha position of Surya is not great in this case.1. Surya is inimical to Shukra and being owner of 7th house (of which Shukra is kaaraka) it will be difficult for Surya to maintain a smooth relationship. A fiery sign in the 7th causes ego clashes invariably. 2. Surya is dharma-kaaraka and its debility indicates some fall in proper dharma. Being in the 9th house is a relief to some extent. If there is neecha bhanga in navaamsa ( which supports dharma ) then the situation is better.3. Lord of the 7th indicates wife. The debility can mean sickly wife and wife who can hinder dharma.4. Please also notice that lagna is Aquarius which means 9th house rasi is baadhaka. Surya in neecha in badhakasthana is certainly not good.Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu,Best wishes,Sourav====================================================================================================sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear Michael,> > Please give exact page.> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> Sri Jagannath Center Guru> email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl> > > Michael Travass napisa³(a):> >> > Dear Rafael,> > > > Thanks. In the COVA it is said that Surya is not bad in neecha > > position in Libra if it is the 9th house, how do we reconcile this. > > Will Surya give good results when in 9th house which is libra a > > venusian sign.> > Regards,> > Mike> >> > > > ** sohamsa [sohamsa ]> > *On Behalf Of *Rafal Gendarz> > *Sent:* 10 August 2007 21:28> > *To:* sohamsa > > *Subject:* Re: Upada Lagna> >> > *hraum namah adityaya*> >> > Dear Mike,> >> > Yes, spiritual people avoid Iha-sukha lokha, especially those who> > follow Nivrrti Marg already.> >> > Taurus is enemical sign, while Libra is neecha-sign, soul doesnt> > want rebirth (7H) as it is accustomed to steadiness (Surya).> >> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz> > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl> >> >> > Michael Travass napisa³(a):> >> >> > >>> >> Dear Rafael,> >> > >> Please could you explain what is the relationship of Venus> >> and Sun. If Sun is in Venus sign (libra or taurus), is it bad.> >> Regards,> >> Mike> >>> >>

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hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear Mike,

 

Yes, spiritual people avoid Iha-sukha lokha, especially those who

follow Nivrrti Marg already.

 

Taurus is enemical sign, while Libra is neecha-sign, soul doesnt want

rebirth (7H) as it is accustomed to steadiness (Surya).

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

 

 

Michael Travass napisał(a):

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafael,

 

Please could you explain what is the

relationship of Venus and Sun. If Sun is in Venus sign (libra or

taurus), is it bad.

Regards,

Mike

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Dear Rafael,

 

Thanks. In the COVA it is said that Surya is not bad in neecha position in Libra if it is the 9th house, how do we reconcile this. Will Surya give good results when in 9th house which is libra a venusian sign.

Regards,

Mike

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz10 August 2007 21:28sohamsa Subject: Re: Upada Lagna

 

hraum namah adityayaDear Mike,Yes, spiritual people avoid Iha-sukha lokha, especially those who follow Nivrrti Marg already. Taurus is enemical sign, while Libra is neecha-sign, soul doesnt want rebirth (7H) as it is accustomed to steadiness (Surya).Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comRohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.plMichael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafael,

 

Please could you explain what is the relationship of Venus and Sun. If Sun is in Venus sign (libra or taurus), is it bad.

Regards,

Mike

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Further isn't it that Surya controls Venus. For example anything related to Venus (sexual urge) can be controlled by Surya.

Is my interpretation correct.

Mike

 

 

Michael Travass [michael.travass] 10 August 2007 22:58'sohamsa 'RE: Upada Lagna

Dear Rafael,

 

Thanks. In the COVA it is said that Surya is not bad in neecha position in Libra if it is the 9th house, how do we reconcile this. Will Surya give good results when in 9th house which is libra a venusian sign.

Regards,

Mike

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz10 August 2007 21:28sohamsa Subject: Re: Upada Lagna

 

hraum namah adityayaDear Mike,Yes, spiritual people avoid Iha-sukha lokha, especially those who follow Nivrrti Marg already. Taurus is enemical sign, while Libra is neecha-sign, soul doesnt want rebirth (7H) as it is accustomed to steadiness (Surya).Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comRohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.plMichael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafael,

 

Please could you explain what is the relationship of Venus and Sun. If Sun is in Venus sign (libra or taurus), is it bad.

Regards,

Mike

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hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear Michael,

 

Please give exact page.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

 

 

Michael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

 

Dear Rafael,

 

Thanks. In the COVA it is said that Surya is not

bad in neecha position in Libra if it is the 9th house, how do we

reconcile this. Will Surya give good results when in 9th house which is

libra a venusian sign.

Regards,

Mike

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ]

On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

10 August 2007 21:28

sohamsa

Re: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

hraum namah

adityaya

 

Dear Mike,

 

Yes, spiritual people avoid Iha-sukha lokha, especially those who

follow Nivrrti Marg already.

 

Taurus is enemical sign, while Libra is neecha-sign, soul doesnt want

rebirth (7H) as it is accustomed to steadiness (Surya).

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

 

 

Michael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafael,

 

Please could you explain what is the

relationship of Venus and Sun. If Sun is in Venus sign (libra or

taurus), is it bad.

Regards,

Mike

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hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear Mike,

 

Ego clashes in marriage related issues.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

 

 

Michael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

 

Further isn't it that Surya controls Venus.

For example anything related to Venus (sexual urge) can be controlled

by Surya.

Is my interpretation correct.

Mike

 

 

Michael Travass [michael.travass (AT) btinternet (DOT) com]

 

10 August 2007 22:58

'sohamsa '

RE: Upada Lagna

 

 

Dear Rafael,

 

Thanks. In the COVA it is said that Surya is not

bad in neecha position in Libra if it is the 9th house, how do we

reconcile this. Will Surya give good results when in 9th house which is

libra a venusian sign.

Regards,

Mike

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ]

On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

10 August 2007 21:28

sohamsa

Re: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

hraum namah

adityaya

 

Dear Mike,

 

Yes, spiritual people avoid Iha-sukha lokha, especially those who

follow Nivrrti Marg already.

 

Taurus is enemical sign, while Libra is neecha-sign, soul doesnt want

rebirth (7H) as it is accustomed to steadiness (Surya).

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

 

 

Michael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafael,

 

Please could you explain what is the

relationship of Venus and Sun. If Sun is in Venus sign (libra or

taurus), is it bad.

Regards,

Mike

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|| Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Mike, Namaskar. I quite agree with Rafal-ji here. Neecha position of Surya is not great in this case.1. Surya is inimical to Shukra and being owner of 7th house (of which Shukra is kaaraka) it will be difficult for Surya to maintain a smooth relationship. A fiery sign in the 7th causes ego clashes invariably. 2. Surya is dharma-kaaraka and its debility indicates some fall in proper dharma. Being in the 9th house is a relief to some extent. If there is neecha bhanga in navaamsa ( which supports dharma ) then the situation is better.3. Lord of the 7th indicates wife. The debility can mean sickly wife and wife who can hinder dharma.4. Please also notice that lagna is Aquarius which means 9th house rasi is baadhaka. Surya in neecha in badhakasthana is certainly not good.Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu,Best wishes,Sourav====================================================================================================sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear Michael,> > Please give exact page.> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> Sri Jagannath Center Guru> email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl> > > Michael Travass napisa³(a):> >> > Dear Rafael,> > > > Thanks. In the COVA it is said that Surya is not bad in neecha > > position in Libra if it is the 9th house, how do we reconcile this. > > Will Surya give good results when in 9th house which is libra a > > venusian sign.> > Regards,> > Mike> >> > > > ** sohamsa [sohamsa ]> > *On Behalf Of *Rafal Gendarz> > *Sent:* 10 August 2007 21:28> > *To:* sohamsa > > *Subject:* Re: Upada Lagna> >> > *hraum namah adityaya*> >> > Dear Mike,> >> > Yes, spiritual people avoid Iha-sukha lokha, especially those who> > follow Nivrrti Marg already.> >> > Taurus is enemical sign, while Libra is neecha-sign, soul doesnt> > want rebirth (7H) as it is accustomed to steadiness (Surya).> >> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz> > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl> >> >> > Michael Travass napisa³(a):> >> >> > >>> >> Dear Rafael,> >> > >> Please could you explain what is the relationship of Venus> >> and Sun. If Sun is in Venus sign (libra or taurus), is it bad.> >> Regards,> >> Mike> >>> >>

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Dear Rafael,

Please look at page 373 in COVA " Planets in 9th house". There is a rider of Mars or Venus to be strong in a quadrant.

Regards,

Mike

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz11 August 2007 02:18sohamsa Subject: Re: Upada Lagna

 

hraum namah adityayaDear Michael,Please give exact page.Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comRohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.plMichael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

Dear Rafael,

 

Thanks. In the COVA it is said that Surya is not bad in neecha position in Libra if it is the 9th house, how do we reconcile this. Will Surya give good results when in 9th house which is libra a venusian sign.

Regards,

Mike

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz10 August 2007 21:28sohamsa Subject: Re: Upada Lagna

 

hraum namah adityayaDear Mike,Yes, spiritual people avoid Iha-sukha lokha, especially those who follow Nivrrti Marg already. Taurus is enemical sign, while Libra is neecha-sign, soul doesnt want rebirth (7H) as it is accustomed to steadiness (Surya).Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comRohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.plMichael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafael,

 

Please could you explain what is the relationship of Venus and Sun. If Sun is in Venus sign (libra or taurus), is it bad.

Regards,

Mike

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hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear Mike,

 

Yes, you didnt add this about Mangal and Shukra which completely change

that statement.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

 

 

Michael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

 

Dear Rafael,

Please look at page 373 in COVA " Planets in 9th

house". There is a rider of Mars or Venus to be strong in a quadrant.

Regards,

Mike

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ]

On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

11 August 2007 02:18

sohamsa

Re: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

hraum namah

adityaya

 

Dear Michael,

 

Please give exact page.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

 

 

Michael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

Dear Rafael,

 

Thanks. In the COVA it is said that Surya is not

bad in neecha position in Libra if it is the 9th house, how do we

reconcile this. Will Surya give good results when in 9th house which is

libra a venusian sign.

Regards,

Mike

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ]

On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

10 August 2007 21:28

sohamsa

Re: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

hraum namah

adityaya

 

Dear Mike,

 

Yes, spiritual people avoid Iha-sukha lokha, especially those who

follow Nivrrti Marg already.

 

Taurus is enemical sign, while Libra is neecha-sign, soul doesnt want

rebirth (7H) as it is accustomed to steadiness (Surya).

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

 

 

Michael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafael,

 

Please could you explain what is the

relationship of Venus and Sun. If Sun is in Venus sign (libra or

taurus), is it bad.

Regards,

Mike

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|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Hi Mike,

 

How is it, if you look it in a different perspective. A person

loses his independence (Suyra), when falls into relationship (Shukra).

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

 

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Michael

Travass

Saturday, August 11, 2007 1:00 AM

sohamsa

RE: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Further isn't it that Surya controls Venus. For example anything

related to Venus (sexual urge) can be controlled by Surya.

 

 

Is my interpretation correct.

 

 

Mike

 

 

 

Michael Travass [michael.travass]

10 August 2007 22:58

'sohamsa '

RE: Upada Lagna

 

Dear Rafael,

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks. In the COVA it is said that Surya is not bad in neecha

position in Libra if it is the 9th house, how do we reconcile this. Will Surya

give good results when in 9th house which is libra a venusian sign.

 

 

Regards,

 

 

Mike

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On

Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

10 August 2007 21:28

sohamsa

Re: Upada Lagna

 

hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear Mike,

 

Yes, spiritual people avoid Iha-sukha lokha, especially those who follow

Nivrrti Marg already.

 

Taurus is enemical sign, while Libra is neecha-sign, soul doesnt want rebirth

(7H) as it is accustomed to steadiness (Surya).

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

 

 

Michael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafael,

 

 

 

 

 

Please could you explain what is the relationship of Venus and Sun.

If Sun is in Venus sign (libra or taurus), is it bad.

 

 

Regards,

 

 

Mike

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hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear Mike,

 

Still this yoga guarantees stable relationships.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

 

Sarajit Poddar napisa³(a):

 

 

 

 

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Hi Mike,

 

How is it, if you

look it in a different perspective. A person

loses his independence (Suyra), when falls into relationship (Shukra).

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

 

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ]

On Behalf Of Michael

Travass

Saturday, August 11, 2007 1:00 AM

sohamsa

RE: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Further

isn't it that Surya controls Venus. For example anything

related to Venus (sexual urge) can be controlled by Surya.

 

 

Is

my interpretation correct.

 

 

Mike

 

 

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Michael Travass [michael.travass (AT) btinternet (DOT) com]

 

10 August 2007 22:58

'sohamsa '

RE: Upada Lagna

 

Dear

Rafael,

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks.

In the COVA it is said that Surya is not bad in neecha

position in Libra if it is the 9th house, how do we reconcile this.

Will Surya

give good results when in 9th house which is libra a venusian sign.

 

 

Regards,

 

 

Mike

 

 

-----Original

Message-----

sohamsa [sohamsa ]

On

Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

10 August 2007 21:28

sohamsa

Re: Upada Lagna

 

hraum

namah adityaya

 

Dear Mike,

 

Yes, spiritual people avoid Iha-sukha lokha, especially those who

follow

Nivrrti Marg already.

 

Taurus is enemical sign, while Libra is neecha-sign, soul doesnt want

rebirth

(7H) as it is accustomed to steadiness (Surya).

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

 

 

Michael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafael,

 

 

 

 

 

Please could you explain what is

the relationship of Venus and Sun.

If Sun is in Venus sign (libra or taurus), is it bad.

 

 

Regards,

 

 

Mike

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Dear Rafal,

I can understand Mars but why Venus when it is a trouble maker for Sun. Have you asked Sanjay. Sanjay's teachings are based on 9th house being the most important house in the horoscope and with Sun in the 9th house it is very good. The question to be asked is sun good in a venusian sign specifically when it is debilitated.

Regards,

Mike

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz11 August 2007 10:30sohamsa Subject: Re: Upada Lagna

 

hraum namah adityayaDear Mike,Yes, you didnt add this about Mangal and Shukra which completely change that statement. Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comRohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.plMichael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

Dear Rafael,

Please look at page 373 in COVA " Planets in 9th house". There is a rider of Mars or Venus to be strong in a quadrant.

Regards,

Mike

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz11 August 2007 02:18sohamsa Subject: Re: Upada Lagna

 

hraum namah adityayaDear Michael,Please give exact page.Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comRohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.plMichael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

Dear Rafael,

 

Thanks. In the COVA it is said that Surya is not bad in neecha position in Libra if it is the 9th house, how do we reconcile this. Will Surya give good results when in 9th house which is libra a venusian sign.

Regards,

Mike

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz10 August 2007 21:28sohamsa Subject: Re: Upada Lagna

 

hraum namah adityayaDear Mike,Yes, spiritual people avoid Iha-sukha lokha, especially those who follow Nivrrti Marg already. Taurus is enemical sign, while Libra is neecha-sign, soul doesnt want rebirth (7H) as it is accustomed to steadiness (Surya).Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comRohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.plMichael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafael,

 

Please could you explain what is the relationship of Venus and Sun. If Sun is in Venus sign (libra or taurus), is it bad.

Regards,

Mike

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Hi Sarajit,

I understand what you are saying.

But why should debilitated Surya in 9th give good results when Venus is in a quadrant. You know implicitly the rasi lagna is Aq. What do you think is the logic for the rider? I think Sanjay knows about it.

Regards,

Mike

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Sarajit Poddar11 August 2007 14:26sohamsa Subject: RE: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Hi Mike,

 

How is it, if you look it in a different perspective. A person loses his independence (Suyra), when falls into relationship (Shukra).

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Michael TravassSaturday, August 11, 2007 1:00 AMsohamsa Subject: RE: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

 

 

Further isn't it that Surya controls Venus. For example anything related to Venus (sexual urge) can be controlled by Surya.

 

Is my interpretation correct.

 

Mike

 

Michael Travass [michael.travass (AT) btinternet (DOT) com] 10 August 2007 22:58'sohamsa 'RE: Upada Lagna

 

Dear Rafael,

 

 

 

Thanks. In the COVA it is said that Surya is not bad in neecha position in Libra if it is the 9th house, how do we reconcile this. Will Surya give good results when in 9th house which is libra a venusian sign.

 

Regards,

 

Mike

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz10 August 2007 21:28sohamsa Subject: Re: Upada Lagna

 

hraum namah adityayaDear Mike,Yes, spiritual people avoid Iha-sukha lokha, especially those who follow Nivrrti Marg already. Taurus is enemical sign, while Libra is neecha-sign, soul doesnt want rebirth (7H) as it is accustomed to steadiness (Surya).Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comRohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.plMichael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafael,

 

 

 

Please could you explain what is the relationship of Venus and Sun. If Sun is in Venus sign (libra or taurus), is it bad.

 

Regards,

 

Mike

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Dear Rafal,

We are talking about debiltated Surya in 9th and Surya is the lord of 7th house. There is a neechabanga yoya and the question is can surya give good results in debilitaton.

Reagrds.,

Mike

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz11 August 2007 14:38sohamsa Subject: Re: Upada Lagna

 

hraum namah adityayaDear Mike,Still this yoga guarantees stable relationships.Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comRohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.plSarajit Poddar napisa³(a):

 

 

 

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Hi Mike,

 

How is it, if you look it in a different perspective. A person loses his independence (Suyra), when falls into relationship (Shukra).

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Michael TravassSaturday, August 11, 2007 1:00 AMsohamsa Subject: RE: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

 

 

Further isn't it that Surya controls Venus. For example anything related to Venus (sexual urge) can be controlled by Surya.

 

Is my interpretation correct.

 

Mike

 

Michael Travass [michael.travass (AT) btinternet (DOT) com] 10 August 2007 22:58'sohamsa 'RE: Upada Lagna

 

Dear Rafael,

 

 

 

Thanks. In the COVA it is said that Surya is not bad in neecha position in Libra if it is the 9th house, how do we reconcile this. Will Surya give good results when in 9th house which is libra a venusian sign.

 

Regards,

 

Mike

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz10 August 2007 21:28sohamsa Subject: Re: Upada Lagna

 

hraum namah adityayaDear Mike,Yes, spiritual people avoid Iha-sukha lokha, especially those who follow Nivrrti Marg already. Taurus is enemical sign, while Libra is neecha-sign, soul doesnt want rebirth (7H) as it is accustomed to steadiness (Surya).Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comRohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.plMichael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafael,

 

 

 

Please could you explain what is the relationship of Venus and Sun. If Sun is in Venus sign (libra or taurus), is it bad.

 

Regards,

 

Mike

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Dear Mike,

 

If you are referring to the statement –

 

The Sun or Jupiter as the natural Karakas of the ninth

house do not suffer from Karaka bhava nasa i.e. they do not damage the

significations of the ninth house and instead enhance them. Even if the Sun is

in Libra in the ninth house; if either of Venus or Mars is strong in a

quadrant, good fortune results.

 

This says that Sun in the 9th house is never bad; even if in debilitation,

provided the debilitation is cancelled (due to strength of Venus or Mars, the

lord of signs of debilitation or exaltation, in quadrant from Moon or Lagna).

 

Regards

Sarajit

 

 

 

sohamsa

[sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Michael Travass

Sunday, August 12, 2007 1:28 AM

sohamsa

RE: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Sarajit,

I

understand what you are saying.

But why

should debilitated Surya in 9th give good results when Venus is in a quadrant.

You know implicitly the rasi lagna is Aq. What do you think is the logic for

the rider? I think Sanjay knows about it.

Regards,

Mike

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On

Behalf Of Sarajit Poddar

11 August 2007 14:26

sohamsa

RE: Upada Lagna

 

 

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Hi Mike,

How is it, if you look it in a different

perspective. A person loses his independence (Suyra), when falls into

relationship (Shukra).

Best Wishes

Sarajit

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Michael

Travass

Saturday, August 11, 2007 1:00 AM

sohamsa

RE: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

 

 

 

Further isn't it that Surya controls Venus.

For example anything related to Venus (sexual urge) can be controlled by Surya.

 

 

Is my interpretation correct.

 

 

Mike

 

 

 

Michael Travass [michael.travass]

10 August 2007 22:58

'sohamsa '

RE: Upada Lagna

 

Dear Rafael,

 

 

Thanks. In the COVA it is said that Surya

is not bad in neecha position in Libra if it is the 9th house, how do we

reconcile this. Will Surya give good results when in 9th house which is libra a

venusian sign.

 

 

Regards,

 

 

Mike

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On

Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

10 August 2007 21:28

sohamsa

Re: Upada Lagna

 

hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear Mike,

 

Yes, spiritual people avoid Iha-sukha lokha, especially those who follow

Nivrrti Marg already.

 

Taurus is enemical sign, while Libra is neecha-sign, soul doesnt want rebirth

(7H) as it is accustomed to steadiness (Surya).

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

 

 

Michael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafael,

 

 

Please could you explain what is the

relationship of Venus and Sun. If Sun is in Venus sign (libra or taurus), is it

bad.

 

 

Regards,

 

 

Mike

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hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear Mike,

 

Sani also...as they are neechabhanga grahas.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

 

Michael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

 

Dear Rafal,

I can understand Mars but why Venus when it is a

trouble maker for Sun. Have you asked Sanjay. Sanjay's teachings are

based on 9th house being the most important house in the horoscope and

with Sun in the 9th house it is very good. The question to be asked is

sun good in a venusian sign specifically when it is debilitated.

Regards,

Mike

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ]

On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

11 August 2007 10:30

sohamsa

Re: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

hraum namah

adityaya

 

Dear Mike,

 

Yes, you didnt add this about Mangal and Shukra which completely change

that statement.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

 

 

Michael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

Dear Rafael,

Please look at page 373 in COVA " Planets in 9th

house". There is a rider of Mars or Venus to be strong in a quadrant.

Regards,

Mike

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ]

On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

11 August 2007 02:18

sohamsa

Re: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

hraum namah

adityaya

 

Dear Michael,

 

Please give exact page.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

 

 

Michael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

Dear Rafael,

 

Thanks. In the COVA it is said that Surya is not

bad in neecha position in Libra if it is the 9th house, how do we

reconcile this. Will Surya give good results when in 9th house which is

libra a venusian sign.

Regards,

Mike

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ]

On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

10 August 2007 21:28

sohamsa

Re: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

hraum

namah adityaya

 

Dear Mike,

 

Yes, spiritual people avoid Iha-sukha lokha, especially those who

follow Nivrrti Marg already.

 

Taurus is enemical sign, while Libra is neecha-sign, soul doesnt want

rebirth (7H) as it is accustomed to steadiness (Surya).

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email:

rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

 

 

Michael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafael,

 

Please could you explain what is the

relationship of Venus and Sun. If Sun is in Venus sign (libra or

taurus), is it bad.

Regards,

Mike

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hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear Mike,

 

If there is neechabhanga then surely it can, but debilitated graha in

badhaksthan is very bad.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

 

Michael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

 

Dear Rafal,

We are talking about debiltated Surya in 9th and

Surya is the lord of 7th house. There is a neechabanga yoya and the

question is can surya give good results in debilitaton.

Reagrds.,

Mike

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ]

On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

11 August 2007 14:38

sohamsa

Re: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

hraum namah

adityaya

 

Dear Mike,

 

Still this yoga guarantees stable relationships.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

 

Sarajit Poddar napisa³(a):

 

 

 

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Hi Mike,

 

How is it, if you

look it in a different perspective. A person loses his independence

(Suyra), when falls into relationship (Shukra).

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ]

On Behalf Of Michael Travass

Saturday, August 11, 2007 1:00 AM

sohamsa

RE: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Further

isn't it that Surya controls Venus. For example anything related to

Venus (sexual urge) can be controlled by Surya.

 

 

Is

my interpretation correct.

 

 

Mike

 

 

-----Original

Message-----

Michael Travass [michael.travass (AT) btinternet (DOT) com]

 

10 August 2007 22:58

'sohamsa '

RE: Upada Lagna

 

Dear

Rafael,

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks.

In the COVA it is said that Surya is not bad in neecha position in

Libra if it is the 9th house, how do we reconcile this. Will Surya give

good results when in 9th house which is libra a venusian sign.

 

 

Regards,

 

 

Mike

 

 

-----Original

Message-----

sohamsa [sohamsa ]

On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

10 August 2007 21:28

sohamsa

Re: Upada Lagna

 

hraum

namah adityaya

 

Dear Mike,

 

Yes, spiritual people avoid Iha-sukha lokha, especially those who

follow Nivrrti Marg already.

 

Taurus is enemical sign, while Libra is neecha-sign, soul doesnt want

rebirth (7H) as it is accustomed to steadiness (Surya).

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

 

 

Michael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafael,

 

 

 

 

 

Please could you explain what is

the relationship of Venus and Sun. If Sun is in Venus sign (libra or

taurus), is it bad.

 

 

Regards,

 

 

Mike

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Dear Mike,

Neecha state of Sun doesn't exist any more with the help of Venus. Such Venus in quadrant rainforcing the lagna, more so, if she is a good friend of Lord of the lagna. Depend of the Aruda, boga comes.

Best Wishes

Karu

 

-

Michael Travass

sohamsa

Sunday, August 12, 2007 8:27 AM

RE: Upada Lagna

 

 

Hi Sarajit,

I understand what you are saying.

But why should debilitated Surya in 9th give good results when Venus is in a quadrant. You know implicitly the rasi lagna is Aq. What do you think is the logic for the rider? I think Sanjay knows about it.

Regards,

Mike

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Sarajit Poddar11 August 2007 14:26sohamsa Subject: RE: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Hi Mike,

 

How is it, if you look it in a different perspective. A person loses his independence (Suyra), when falls into relationship (Shukra).

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Michael TravassSaturday, August 11, 2007 1:00 AMsohamsa Subject: RE: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

 

 

Further isn't it that Surya controls Venus. For example anything related to Venus (sexual urge) can be controlled by Surya.

 

Is my interpretation correct.

 

Mike

 

Michael Travass [michael.travass (AT) btinternet (DOT) com] 10 August 2007 22:58'sohamsa 'RE: Upada Lagna

 

Dear Rafael,

 

 

 

Thanks. In the COVA it is said that Surya is not bad in neecha position in Libra if it is the 9th house, how do we reconcile this. Will Surya give good results when in 9th house which is libra a venusian sign.

 

Regards,

 

Mike

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz10 August 2007 21:28sohamsa Subject: Re: Upada Lagna

 

hraum namah adityayaDear Mike,Yes, spiritual people avoid Iha-sukha lokha, especially those who follow Nivrrti Marg already. Taurus is enemical sign, while Libra is neecha-sign, soul doesnt want rebirth (7H) as it is accustomed to steadiness (Surya).Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comRohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.plMichael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafael,

 

 

 

Please could you explain what is the relationship of Venus and Sun. If Sun is in Venus sign (libra or taurus), is it bad.

 

Regards,

 

Mike

 

 

 

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hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear Karu,

 

One neechabhanga graha is only 25%.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

 

Karu napisa³(a):

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Mike,

Neecha state of Sun doesn't exist

any more with the help of Venus. Such Venus in quadrant rainforcing the

lagna, more so, if she is a good friend of Lord of the lagna. Depend of

the Aruda, boga comes.

Best Wishes

Karu

 

-----

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Michael Travass

To:

sohamsa

 

Sent:

Sunday, August 12, 2007 8:27 AM

Subject:

RE: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

Hi

Sarajit,

I

understand what you are saying.

But

why should debilitated Surya in 9th give good results when Venus is in

a quadrant. You know implicitly the rasi lagna is Aq. What do you think

is the logic for the rider? I think Sanjay knows about it.

Regards,

Mike

 

 

 

sohamsa

[sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Sarajit

Poddar

11 August 2007 14:26

sohamsa

RE: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

 

 

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Hi Mike,

 

How is it, if you

look it in a different perspective. A person loses his independence

(Suyra), when falls into relationship (Shukra).

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ]

On Behalf Of Michael Travass

Saturday, August 11, 2007 1:00 AM

sohamsa

RE: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Further

isn't it that Surya controls Venus. For example anything related to

Venus (sexual urge) can be controlled by Surya.

 

 

Is

my interpretation correct.

 

 

Mike

 

 

-----Original

Message-----

Michael Travass [michael.travass (AT) btinternet (DOT) com]

 

10 August 2007 22:58

'sohamsa '

RE: Upada Lagna

 

Dear

Rafael,

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks.

In the COVA it is said that Surya is not bad in neecha position in

Libra if it is the 9th house, how do we reconcile this. Will Surya give

good results when in 9th house which is libra a venusian sign.

 

 

Regards,

 

 

Mike

 

 

-----Original

Message-----

sohamsa [sohamsa ]

On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

10 August 2007 21:28

sohamsa

Re: Upada Lagna

 

hraum

namah adityaya

 

Dear Mike,

 

Yes, spiritual people avoid Iha-sukha lokha, especially those who

follow Nivrrti Marg already.

 

Taurus is enemical sign, while Libra is neecha-sign, soul doesnt want

rebirth (7H) as it is accustomed to steadiness (Surya).

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

 

 

Michael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafael,

 

 

 

 

 

Please could you explain what is

the relationship of Venus and Sun. If Sun is in Venus sign (libra or

taurus), is it bad.

 

 

Regards,

 

 

Mike

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Rafal,

Not only neecha Banga. Dispositor of Sun is Yoga Karaka and in a Kendra. Kalpa Druma Yoga from 7th house. Lagna lord Rahu will be very happy, if he able to eclipse Sun, (the 7th lord) throught Venus.

Best Wishes

Karu

 

-

Rafal Gendarz

sohamsa

Sunday, August 12, 2007 5:59 PM

Re: Upada Lagna

hraum namah adityayaDear Karu,One neechabhanga graha is only 25%. Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafalJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comRohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.plKaru napisa³(a):

 

 

Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Mike,

Neecha state of Sun doesn't exist any more with the help of Venus. Such Venus in quadrant rainforcing the lagna, more so, if she is a good friend of Lord of the lagna. Depend of the Aruda, boga comes.

Best Wishes

Karu

 

-

Michael Travass

sohamsa

Sunday, August 12, 2007 8:27 AM

RE: Upada Lagna

 

 

Hi Sarajit,

I understand what you are saying.

But why should debilitated Surya in 9th give good results when Venus is in a quadrant. You know implicitly the rasi lagna is Aq. What do you think is the logic for the rider? I think Sanjay knows about it.

Regards,

Mike

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Sarajit Poddar11 August 2007 14:26sohamsa Subject: RE: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Hi Mike,

 

How is it, if you look it in a different perspective. A person loses his independence (Suyra), when falls into relationship (Shukra).

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Michael TravassSaturday, August 11, 2007 1:00 AMsohamsa Subject: RE: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

 

 

Further isn't it that Surya controls Venus. For example anything related to Venus (sexual urge) can be controlled by Surya.

 

Is my interpretation correct.

 

Mike

 

Michael Travass [michael.travass (AT) btinternet (DOT) com] 10 August 2007 22:58'sohamsa 'RE: Upada Lagna

 

Dear Rafael,

 

 

 

Thanks. In the COVA it is said that Surya is not bad in neecha position in Libra if it is the 9th house, how do we reconcile this. Will Surya give good results when in 9th house which is libra a venusian sign.

 

Regards,

 

Mike

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz10 August 2007 21:28sohamsa Subject: Re: Upada Lagna

 

hraum namah adityayaDear Mike,Yes, spiritual people avoid Iha-sukha lokha, especially those who follow Nivrrti Marg already. Taurus is enemical sign, while Libra is neecha-sign, soul doesnt want rebirth (7H) as it is accustomed to steadiness (Surya).Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comRohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.plMichael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafael,

 

 

 

Please could you explain what is the relationship of Venus and Sun. If Sun is in Venus sign (libra or taurus), is it bad.

 

Regards,

 

Mike

 

 

 

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hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear Karu,

 

Yes, that mean that planet is strong and can give full 25% but thats

it, if we want to see if there is other help then we have left options

2) Sani 3) Mangal 4) Navamsa.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

 

Karu napisa³(a):

 

 

 

 

 

HARE RAMA KRISHNA

 

Dear Rafal,

Not only neecha Banga. Dispositor of Sun is Yoga Karaka and in

a Kendra. Kalpa Druma Yoga from 7th house. Lagna lord Rahu will be very

happy, if he able to eclipse Sun, (the 7th lord) throught Venus.

Best Wishes

Karu

 

-

Rafal Gendarz

sohamsa@ .com

Sunday, August 12, 2007 5:59 PM

Re: Upada Lagna

 

 

hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear Karu,

 

One neechabhanga graha is only 25%.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.

fora.pl

 

Karu napisa³(a):

 

 

Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Mike,

Neecha state of Sun doesn't exist any more with the help of

Venus. Such Venus in quadrant rainforcing the lagna, more so, if she is

a good friend of Lord of the lagna. Depend of the Aruda, boga comes.

Best Wishes

Karu

 

-

Michael Travass

sohamsa@ .com

Sunday, August 12, 2007 8:27 AM

RE: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

Hi Sarajit,

I understand what you are saying.

But why should debilitated Surya in 9th

give good results when Venus is in a quadrant. You know implicitly the

rasi lagna is Aq. What do you think is the logic for the rider? I think

Sanjay knows about it.

Regards,

Mike

 

 

 

sohamsa@

..com [sohamsa@ .

com] On Behalf Of Sarajit Poddar

11 August 2007 14:26

sohamsa@ .com

RE: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

 

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Hi Mike,

 

How is it, if you look it in a different

perspective. A person loses his independence (Suyra), when falls into

relationship (Shukra).

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

 

 

 

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On

Behalf Of Michael Travass

Saturday, August 11, 2007 1:00 AM

sohamsa@ .com

RE: Upada Lagna

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Further isn't it that Surya controls Venus. For

example anything related to Venus (sexual urge) can be controlled by

Surya.

 

 

Is my interpretation correct.

 

 

Mike

 

 

 

Michael Travass [michael.

travass@btintern et.com]

10 August 2007 22:58

'sohamsa@ s.com'

RE: Upada Lagna

 

Dear Rafael,

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks. In the COVA it is said that Surya is not

bad in neecha position in Libra if it is the 9th house, how do we

reconcile this. Will Surya give good results when in 9th house which is

libra a venusian sign.

 

 

Regards,

 

 

Mike

 

 

 

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On

Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

10 August 2007 21:28

sohamsa@ .com

Re: Upada Lagna

 

hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear Mike,

 

Yes, spiritual people avoid Iha-sukha lokha, especially those who

follow Nivrrti Marg already.

 

Taurus is enemical sign, while Libra is neecha-sign, soul doesnt want

rebirth (7H) as it is accustomed to steadiness (Surya).

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

com

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.

fora.pl

 

 

Michael Travass napisa³(a):

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafael,

 

 

 

 

 

Please could you explain what is the

relationship of Venus and Sun. If Sun is in Venus sign (libra or

taurus), is it bad.

 

 

Regards,

 

 

Mike

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.13/947 - Release Date:

8/11/2007 2:29 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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|| Hare Raama Krsna ||Dear Karu-ji and Rafal-ji, namaskar. Allow me to add 2 more cents. I think the moot points of the case are already discussed and further analysis cannot be added without the actual chart. However, I do not agree that 100% cancellation of debility can be compartmentalized uniformly for various grahas which can possibly cause the cancellation. First of all, when a graha is neecha it shows intense dissatisfaction with the resources it is asked to work with or environment to work in. It is absolutely against its nature, that is. Wherever it is disposited and whatever its lordship(s) is(are), both suffer. Because various parts of life are interconnected, it is possible that the poison can spread to other parts of life due to this. If there is neechabhanga, then there is support from elsewhere (from chandra lagna -- by others in the family/society; from janma lagna -- due to sheer effort of native himself) which does the repair. Yes, if neecha bhanga is from multiple fronts, then more people are helping out. But that does not mean all will equally contribute. Please note that those who can help, their strengths also need to be judged to understand how much relief can be had from each of them and when (per dasas).Secondly, the affairs of a house are governed at three levels, grahas in the house, lordship of the house, and karaka of the house. If Shukra is strong and causes neechabhanga, then its is even better in this case compared to Mangal or Shani giving neecha bhanga. Shukra is karaka of the 7th house owned by Surya and owner of the 9th house of which Surya is kaaraka. Further, Shukra indicates Lakshmi and 9th house is a trine/Lakshmi sthana.Thirdly, it is important to note the argalas, rasi aspects, rekhas of the neecha bhanga causing graha to understand how they are intervening in this matter to save the situation. Lastly, the more a person becomes spiritually advanced, the less are effects of neecha or uccha, because the grahana on him by the grahas becomes feeble. With spiritual enlightenment/unfoldment, the ill aspects of the graha ( here Surya indicates ego, excessive control) becomes less manifest and hence, necessarily, the ' dissatisfaction' level is also lessened.Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu,Best wishes,Sourav===========================================================================================sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear Karu,> > Yes, that mean that planet is strong and can give full 25% but thats it, > if we want to see if there is other help then we have left options 2) > Sani 3) Mangal 4) Navamsa.> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> Sri Jagannath Center Guru> email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl> > Karu napisa³(a):> >> > HARE RAMA KRISHNA> > > > Dear Rafal,> > Not only neecha Banga. Dispositor of Sun is Yoga Karaka and in a > > Kendra. Kalpa Druma Yoga from 7th house. Lagna lord Rahu will be very > > happy, if he able to eclipse Sun, (the 7th lord) throught Venus.> > Best Wishes> > Karu> >> > -> > ** Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme > *To:* sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa > > *Sent:* Sunday, August 12, 2007 5:59 PM> > *Subject:* Re: Upada Lagna> >> > *hraum namah adityaya*> >> > Dear Karu,> >> > One neechabhanga graha is only 25%.> >> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz> > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa.com>> > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl> > <http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl>> >> > Karu napisa³(a):> >> Hare Rama Krishna> >> Dear Mike,> >> Neecha state of Sun doesn't exist any more with the help of> >> Venus. Such Venus in quadrant rainforcing the lagna, more so, if> >> she is a good friend of Lord of the lagna. Depend of the Aruda,> >> boga comes.> >> Best Wishes> >> Karu> >>> >> -> >> ** Michael Travass <michael.travass >> *To:* sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa > >> *Sent:* Sunday, August 12, 2007 8:27 AM> >> *Subject:* RE: Upada Lagna> >>> >> Hi Sarajit,> >>> >> I understand what you are saying.> >>> >> But why should debilitated Surya in 9th give good results> >> when Venus is in a quadrant. You know implicitly the rasi> >> lagna is Aq. What do you think is the logic for the rider? I> >> think Sanjay knows about it.> >>> >> Regards,> >>> >> Mike> >>> >> > >> ** sohamsa@ .com> >> <sohamsa [sohamsa@> >> . com] *On Behalf Of *Sarajit Poddar> >> *Sent:* 11 August 2007 14:26> >> *To:* sohamsa@ .com> >> *Subject:* RE: Upada Lagna> >>> >> || Jaya Jagannath ||> >>> >> Hi Mike,> >>> >> How is it, if you look it in a different perspective. A> >> person loses his independence (Suyra), when falls into> >> relationship (Shukra).> >>> >> Best Wishes> >>> >> Sarajit> >>> >> ** sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@> >> . com] *On Behalf Of *Michael Travass> >> *Sent:* Saturday, August 11, 2007 1:00 AM> >> *To:* sohamsa@ .com> >> *Subject:* RE: Upada Lagna> >>> >> Further isn't it that Surya controls Venus. For example> >> anything related to Venus (sexual urge) can be controlled> >> by Surya.> >>> >> Is my interpretation correct.> >>> >> Mike> >>> >> > >> ** Michael Travass [michael.> >> travass@btintern et.com]> >> *Sent:* 10 August 2007 22:58> >> *To:* 'sohamsa@ s.com'> >> *Subject:* RE: Upada Lagna> >>> >> Dear Rafael,> >>> >> Thanks. In the COVA it is said that Surya is not bad> >> in neecha position in Libra if it is the 9th house,> >> how do we reconcile this. Will Surya give good> >> results when in 9th house which is libra a venusian> >> sign.> >>> >> Regards,> >>> >> Mike> >>> >> > >> ** sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@> >> . com] *On Behalf Of *Rafal Gendarz> >> *Sent:* 10 August 2007 21:28> >> *To:* sohamsa@ .com> >> *Subject:* Re: Upada Lagna> >>> >> *hraum namah adityaya*> >>> >> Dear Mike,> >>> >> Yes, spiritual people avoid Iha-sukha lokha,> >> especially those who follow Nivrrti Marg already.> >>> >> Taurus is enemical sign, while Libra is> >> neecha-sign, soul doesnt want rebirth (7H) as it> >> is accustomed to steadiness (Surya).> >>> >>> >> Regards,> >> Rafal Gendarz> >> Sri Jagannath Center Guru> >> email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal >> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> >> <http://www.rohinaa.com>> >> Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl> >> <http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl>> >>> >>> >> Michael Travass napisa³(a):> >>> >> Dear Rafael,> >>> >> Please could you explain what is the> >> relationship of Venus and Sun. If Sun is> >> in Venus sign (libra or taurus), is it bad.> >>> >> Regards,> >>> >> Mike> >>> >> > >> > >> Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.13/947 - Release> >> 8/11/2007 2:29 PM> >>> > > > > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.13/947 - Release Date:> > 8/11/2007 2:29 PM> >> >>

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Respected Gurus,

 

My husband is an aquarian ascendant with sun in 9th house.He has

excellent relationship with his father and good marriage till date.Sun

is also Atmakaraka for him.Debility has been cancelled with Venus in

10th house with jupiter and mercury.

 

Details are

4th November 1971

time 2:48 pm

place of birth :Amalapuram, India

Lat 16N35'00

Long 82E12'00

 

 

Thanking you

Aruna Srimantula

 

 

 

 

 

sohamsa , " Sourav " <souravc108 wrote:

>

> || Hare Raama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Karu-ji and Rafal-ji,

> namaskar. Allow me to

> add 2 more cents. I think the moot points of the case are already

> discussed and further analysis cannot be added without the actual chart.

> However, I do not agree that 100% cancellation of debility can be

> compartmentalized uniformly for various grahas which can possibly cause

> the cancellation.

>

> First of all, when a graha is neecha it shows intense dissatisfaction

> with the resources it is asked to work with or environment to work in.

> It is absolutely against its nature, that is. Wherever it is disposited

> and whatever its lordship(s) is(are), both suffer. Because various parts

> of life are interconnected, it is possible that the poison can spread to

> other parts of life due to this. If there is neechabhanga, then there is

> support from elsewhere (from chandra lagna -- by others in the

> family/society; from janma lagna -- due to sheer effort of native

> himself) which does the repair. Yes, if neecha bhanga is from multiple

> fronts, then more people are helping out. But that does not mean all

> will equally contribute. Please note that those who can help, their

> strengths also need to be judged to understand how much relief can be

> had from each of them and when (per dasas).

>

> Secondly, the affairs of a house are governed at three levels, grahas in

> the house, lordship of the house, and karaka of the house. If Shukra is

> strong and causes neechabhanga, then its is even better in this case

> compared to Mangal or Shani giving neecha bhanga. Shukra is karaka of

> the 7th house owned by Surya and owner of the 9th house of which Surya

> is kaaraka. Further, Shukra indicates Lakshmi and 9th house is a

> trine/Lakshmi sthana.

>

> Thirdly, it is important to note the argalas, rasi aspects, rekhas of

> the neecha bhanga causing graha to understand how they are intervening

> in this matter to save the situation.

>

> Lastly, the more a person becomes spiritually advanced, the less are

> effects of neecha or uccha, because the grahana on him by the grahas

> becomes feeble. With spiritual enlightenment/unfoldment, the ill aspects

> of the graha ( here Surya indicates ego, excessive control) becomes less

> manifest and hence, necessarily, the ' dissatisfaction' level is also

> lessened.

>

> Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu,

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Sourav

>

========================================================================\

> ===================

>

>

>

>

>

> sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> wrote:

> >

> > *hraum namah adityaya*

> >

> > Dear Karu,

> >

> > Yes, that mean that planet is strong and can give full 25% but thats

> it,

> > if we want to see if there is other help then we have left options 2)

> > Sani 3) Mangal 4) Navamsa.

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > email: rafal@

> > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

> >

> > Karu napisa³(a):

> > >

> > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA

> > >

> > > Dear Rafal,

> > > Not only neecha Banga. Dispositor of Sun is Yoga Karaka and in a

> > > Kendra. Kalpa Druma Yoga from 7th house. Lagna lord Rahu will be

> very

> > > happy, if he able to eclipse Sun, (the 7th lord) throught Venus.

> > > Best Wishes

> > > Karu

> > >

> > > -

> > > ** Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@

> > > *To:* sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa

> > > *Sent:* Sunday, August 12, 2007 5:59 PM

> > > *Subject:* Re: Upada Lagna

> > >

> > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > >

> > > Dear Karu,

> > >

> > > One neechabhanga graha is only 25%.

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@

> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa.com>

> > > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl

> > > <http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl>

> > >

> > > Karu napisa³(a):

> > >> Hare Rama Krishna

> > >> Dear Mike,

> > >> Neecha state of Sun doesn't exist any more with the help of

> > >> Venus. Such Venus in quadrant rainforcing the lagna, more so,

> if

> > >> she is a good friend of Lord of the lagna. Depend of the Aruda,

> > >> boga comes.

> > >> Best Wishes

> > >> Karu

> > >>

> > >> -

> > >> ** Michael Travass <michael.travass@

> > >> *To:* sohamsa@ .com

> <sohamsa

> > >> *Sent:* Sunday, August 12, 2007 8:27 AM

> > >> *Subject:* RE: Upada Lagna

> > >>

> > >> Hi Sarajit,

> > >>

> > >> I understand what you are saying.

> > >>

> > >> But why should debilitated Surya in 9th give good results

> > >> when Venus is in a quadrant. You know implicitly the rasi

> > >> lagna is Aq. What do you think is the logic for the rider?

> I

> > >> think Sanjay knows about it.

> > >>

> > >> Regards,

> > >>

> > >> Mike

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> ** sohamsa@ .com

> > >> <sohamsa [sohamsa@

> > >> . com] *On Behalf Of *Sarajit Poddar

> > >> *Sent:* 11 August 2007 14:26

> > >> *To:* sohamsa@ .com

> > >> *Subject:* RE: Upada Lagna

> > >>

> > >> || Jaya Jagannath ||

> > >>

> > >> Hi Mike,

> > >>

> > >> How is it, if you look it in a different perspective. A

> > >> person loses his independence (Suyra), when falls into

> > >> relationship (Shukra).

> > >>

> > >> Best Wishes

> > >>

> > >> Sarajit

> > >>

> > >> ** sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@

> > >> . com] *On Behalf Of *Michael Travass

> > >> *Sent:* Saturday, August 11, 2007 1:00 AM

> > >> *To:* sohamsa@ .com

> > >> *Subject:* RE: Upada Lagna

> > >>

> > >> Further isn't it that Surya controls Venus. For example

> > >> anything related to Venus (sexual urge) can be

> controlled

> > >> by Surya.

> > >>

> > >> Is my interpretation correct.

> > >>

> > >> Mike

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> ** Michael Travass [michael.

> > >> travass@btintern et.com]

> > >> *Sent:* 10 August 2007 22:58

> > >> *To:* 'sohamsa@ s.com'

> > >> *Subject:* RE: Upada Lagna

> > >>

> > >> Dear Rafael,

> > >>

> > >> Thanks. In the COVA it is said that Surya is not

> bad

> > >> in neecha position in Libra if it is the 9th house,

> > >> how do we reconcile this. Will Surya give good

> > >> results when in 9th house which is libra a venusian

> > >> sign.

> > >>

> > >> Regards,

> > >>

> > >> Mike

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> ** sohamsa@ .com

> [sohamsa@

> > >> . com] *On Behalf Of *Rafal Gendarz

> > >> *Sent:* 10 August 2007 21:28

> > >> *To:* sohamsa@ .com

> > >> *Subject:* Re: Upada Lagna

> > >>

> > >> *hraum namah adityaya*

> > >>

> > >> Dear Mike,

> > >>

> > >> Yes, spiritual people avoid Iha-sukha lokha,

> > >> especially those who follow Nivrrti Marg

> already.

> > >>

> > >> Taurus is enemical sign, while Libra is

> > >> neecha-sign, soul doesnt want rebirth (7H) as

> it

> > >> is accustomed to steadiness (Surya).

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> Regards,

> > >> Rafal Gendarz

> > >> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > >> email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@

> > >> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > >> <http://www.rohinaa.com>

> > >> Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl

> > >> <http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> Michael Travass napisa³(a):

> > >>

> > >> Dear Rafael,

> > >>

> > >> Please could you explain what is the

> > >> relationship of Venus and Sun. If Sun

> is

> > >> in Venus sign (libra or taurus), is it

> bad.

> > >>

> > >> Regards,

> > >>

> > >> Mike

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.13/947 - Release

> > >> 8/11/2007 2:29 PM

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.13/947 - Release Date:

> > > 8/11/2007 2:29 PM

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Hare Rama Krishna

 

Respective Sourav Ji

 

That was a very nice explanation, somewhat akin to the lines on which

Sanjay Ji explained in one of the lectures. Very nicely dealt with

 

Regards

 

Tarun

 

sohamsa , " Sourav " <souravc108 wrote:

>

> || Hare Raama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Karu-ji and Rafal-ji,

> namaskar. Allow me to

> add 2 more cents. I think the moot points of the case are already

> discussed and further analysis cannot be added without the actual chart.

> However, I do not agree that 100% cancellation of debility can be

> compartmentalized uniformly for various grahas which can possibly cause

> the cancellation.

>

> First of all, when a graha is neecha it shows intense dissatisfaction

> with the resources it is asked to work with or environment to work in.

> It is absolutely against its nature, that is. Wherever it is disposited

> and whatever its lordship(s) is(are), both suffer. Because various parts

> of life are interconnected, it is possible that the poison can spread to

> other parts of life due to this. If there is neechabhanga, then there is

> support from elsewhere (from chandra lagna -- by others in the

> family/society; from janma lagna -- due to sheer effort of native

> himself) which does the repair. Yes, if neecha bhanga is from multiple

> fronts, then more people are helping out. But that does not mean all

> will equally contribute. Please note that those who can help, their

> strengths also need to be judged to understand how much relief can be

> had from each of them and when (per dasas).

>

> Secondly, the affairs of a house are governed at three levels, grahas in

> the house, lordship of the house, and karaka of the house. If Shukra is

> strong and causes neechabhanga, then its is even better in this case

> compared to Mangal or Shani giving neecha bhanga. Shukra is karaka of

> the 7th house owned by Surya and owner of the 9th house of which Surya

> is kaaraka. Further, Shukra indicates Lakshmi and 9th house is a

> trine/Lakshmi sthana.

>

> Thirdly, it is important to note the argalas, rasi aspects, rekhas of

> the neecha bhanga causing graha to understand how they are intervening

> in this matter to save the situation.

>

> Lastly, the more a person becomes spiritually advanced, the less are

> effects of neecha or uccha, because the grahana on him by the grahas

> becomes feeble. With spiritual enlightenment/unfoldment, the ill aspects

> of the graha ( here Surya indicates ego, excessive control) becomes less

> manifest and hence, necessarily, the ' dissatisfaction' level is also

> lessened.

>

> Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu,

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Sourav

>

========================================================================\

> ===================

>

>

>

>

>

> sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> wrote:

> >

> > *hraum namah adityaya*

> >

> > Dear Karu,

> >

> > Yes, that mean that planet is strong and can give full 25% but thats

> it,

> > if we want to see if there is other help then we have left options 2)

> > Sani 3) Mangal 4) Navamsa.

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > email: rafal@

> > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

> >

> > Karu napisa³(a):

> > >

> > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA

> > >

> > > Dear Rafal,

> > > Not only neecha Banga. Dispositor of Sun is Yoga Karaka and in a

> > > Kendra. Kalpa Druma Yoga from 7th house. Lagna lord Rahu will be

> very

> > > happy, if he able to eclipse Sun, (the 7th lord) throught Venus.

> > > Best Wishes

> > > Karu

> > >

> > > -

> > > ** Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@

> > > *To:* sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa

> > > *Sent:* Sunday, August 12, 2007 5:59 PM

> > > *Subject:* Re: Upada Lagna

> > >

> > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > >

> > > Dear Karu,

> > >

> > > One neechabhanga graha is only 25%.

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@

> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa.com>

> > > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl

> > > <http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl>

> > >

> > > Karu napisa³(a):

> > >> Hare Rama Krishna

> > >> Dear Mike,

> > >> Neecha state of Sun doesn't exist any more with the help of

> > >> Venus. Such Venus in quadrant rainforcing the lagna, more so,

> if

> > >> she is a good friend of Lord of the lagna. Depend of the Aruda,

> > >> boga comes.

> > >> Best Wishes

> > >> Karu

> > >>

> > >> -

> > >> ** Michael Travass <michael.travass@

> > >> *To:* sohamsa@ .com

> <sohamsa

> > >> *Sent:* Sunday, August 12, 2007 8:27 AM

> > >> *Subject:* RE: Upada Lagna

> > >>

> > >> Hi Sarajit,

> > >>

> > >> I understand what you are saying.

> > >>

> > >> But why should debilitated Surya in 9th give good results

> > >> when Venus is in a quadrant. You know implicitly the rasi

> > >> lagna is Aq. What do you think is the logic for the rider?

> I

> > >> think Sanjay knows about it.

> > >>

> > >> Regards,

> > >>

> > >> Mike

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> ** sohamsa@ .com

> > >> <sohamsa [sohamsa@

> > >> . com] *On Behalf Of *Sarajit Poddar

> > >> *Sent:* 11 August 2007 14:26

> > >> *To:* sohamsa@ .com

> > >> *Subject:* RE: Upada Lagna

> > >>

> > >> || Jaya Jagannath ||

> > >>

> > >> Hi Mike,

> > >>

> > >> How is it, if you look it in a different perspective. A

> > >> person loses his independence (Suyra), when falls into

> > >> relationship (Shukra).

> > >>

> > >> Best Wishes

> > >>

> > >> Sarajit

> > >>

> > >> ** sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@

> > >> . com] *On Behalf Of *Michael Travass

> > >> *Sent:* Saturday, August 11, 2007 1:00 AM

> > >> *To:* sohamsa@ .com

> > >> *Subject:* RE: Upada Lagna

> > >>

> > >> Further isn't it that Surya controls Venus. For example

> > >> anything related to Venus (sexual urge) can be

> controlled

> > >> by Surya.

> > >>

> > >> Is my interpretation correct.

> > >>

> > >> Mike

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> ** Michael Travass [michael.

> > >> travass@btintern et.com]

> > >> *Sent:* 10 August 2007 22:58

> > >> *To:* 'sohamsa@ s.com'

> > >> *Subject:* RE: Upada Lagna

> > >>

> > >> Dear Rafael,

> > >>

> > >> Thanks. In the COVA it is said that Surya is not

> bad

> > >> in neecha position in Libra if it is the 9th house,

> > >> how do we reconcile this. Will Surya give good

> > >> results when in 9th house which is libra a venusian

> > >> sign.

> > >>

> > >> Regards,

> > >>

> > >> Mike

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> ** sohamsa@ .com

> [sohamsa@

> > >> . com] *On Behalf Of *Rafal Gendarz

> > >> *Sent:* 10 August 2007 21:28

> > >> *To:* sohamsa@ .com

> > >> *Subject:* Re: Upada Lagna

> > >>

> > >> *hraum namah adityaya*

> > >>

> > >> Dear Mike,

> > >>

> > >> Yes, spiritual people avoid Iha-sukha lokha,

> > >> especially those who follow Nivrrti Marg

> already.

> > >>

> > >> Taurus is enemical sign, while Libra is

> > >> neecha-sign, soul doesnt want rebirth (7H) as

> it

> > >> is accustomed to steadiness (Surya).

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> Regards,

> > >> Rafal Gendarz

> > >> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > >> email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@

> > >> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > >> <http://www.rohinaa.com>

> > >> Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl

> > >> <http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> Michael Travass napisa³(a):

> > >>

> > >> Dear Rafael,

> > >>

> > >> Please could you explain what is the

> > >> relationship of Venus and Sun. If Sun

> is

> > >> in Venus sign (libra or taurus), is it

> bad.

> > >>

> > >> Regards,

> > >>

> > >> Mike

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.13/947 - Release

> > >> 8/11/2007 2:29 PM

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.13/947 - Release Date:

> > > 8/11/2007 2:29 PM

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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