Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Nitish, Mars and Ketu in 6th in general is very bad in Navamsa can indicate harming/killing spouse. Are you of a violent type? Make sure the Navamsa lagna is correct first by checking out the trines and your nature. Warm Regards Sanjay P On 8/13/07, yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya wrote: Dear all,Does Mars+Ke combination in 6th house in navamsa in the following chart indicate a dangerous marital relationship? Mars is in exchange with AK Venus placed with Ra in 12th house, as well as lords the UL in the rashi chart showing involvement of spouse. Also, note that the Saturn+Jupiter are also placed together in the navamsa ascendant, though Ju is lord of lagna in D-9.April 5, 1983Time: 4:15:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " New Delhi, Indiaregards,nitish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Sanjay P, Yes this is from Jaimini. Ma+Ke in 2,6 make one kill husband, while in 8,12 it is opposite, while in Serbija lecture Sanjayji made it reverse, so its 2,6 for being hurt by spouse infact. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl Sanjay Prabhakaran napisał(a): || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Nitish,  Mars and Ketu in 6th in general is very bad in Navamsa can indicate harming/killing spouse. Are you of a violent type? Make sure the Navamsa lagna is correct first by checking out the trines and your nature. Warm Regards Sanjay P  On 8/13/07, yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear all, Does Mars+Ke combination in 6th house in navamsa in the following chart indicate a dangerous marital relationship? Mars is in exchange with AK Venus placed with Ra in 12th house, as well as lords the UL in the rashi chart showing involvement of spouse. Also, note that the Saturn+Jupiter are also placed together in the navamsa ascendant, though Ju is lord of lagna in D-9. April 5, 1983 Time: 4:15:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00" New Delhi, India regards, nitish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Sanjay P, Does the harm come to native or spouse? Does the same result hold good for Mars and Ketu in 2H of D9 too? regards Ramesh sanjaychettiar Sent by: sohamsa 08/14/2007 10:06 AM Please respond to sohamsa To sohamsa cc Subject Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Nitish, Mars and Ketu in 6th in general is very bad in Navamsa can indicate harming/killing spouse. Are you of a violent type? Make sure the Navamsa lagna is correct first by checking out the trines and your nature. Warm Regards Sanjay P On 8/13/07, yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya wrote: Dear all, Does Mars+Ke combination in 6th house in navamsa in the following chart indicate a dangerous marital relationship? Mars is in exchange with AK Venus placed with Ra in 12th house, as well as lords the UL in the rashi chart showing involvement of spouse. Also, note that the Saturn+Jupiter are also placed together in the navamsa ascendant, though Ju is lord of lagna in D-9. April 5, 1983 Time: 4:15:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " New Delhi, India regards, nitish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 || Hare Raama Krsna ||Dear Ramesh-ji, namaskar. 8th is maraka to the 7th and can kill spouse. 2nd is 8th from 7th and hence determines longevity of spouse as well. 12-th is absence or separation from spouse leading to temporary bachelorhood. Malefics in the 2nd house show how separation happens. Sani here can show nindaa (calumny).Best wishes,Sourav===========================================================================sohamsa , Ramesh.F.Gangaramani wrote:>> Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > Dear Sanjay P,> Does the harm come to native or spouse? Does the same result hold good for > Mars and Ketu in 2H of D9 too?> regards> Ramesh> > > > > sanjaychettiar > Sent by: sohamsa > 08/14/2007 10:06 AM> Please respond to> sohamsa > > > To> sohamsa > cc> > Subject> Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9> > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> Dear Nitish,> Mars and Ketu in 6th in general is very bad in Navamsa can indicate > harming/killing spouse. Are you of a violent type? Make sure the Navamsa > lagna is correct first by checking out the trines and your nature.> Warm Regards> Sanjay P> > > > On 8/13/07, yeeahoo_99 nitish.arya wrote: > Dear all,> Does Mars+Ke combination in 6th house in navamsa in the following > chart indicate a dangerous marital relationship? Mars is in exchange > with AK Venus placed with Ra in 12th house, as well as lords the UL > in the rashi chart showing involvement of spouse. > Also, note that the Saturn+Jupiter are also placed together in the > navamsa ascendant, though Ju is lord of lagna in D-9.> > April 5, 1983> Time: 4:15:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"> New Delhi, India> > regards,> nitish> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Saurav, Are you concluding that Mars and Ketu in 6H or 2H leads to physical harm to spouse, similar to what Sanjay P has mentioned? I asked the question because Sanjayji in his lecture mentions about this combination leading to harm to the native by the spouse. Hope we will get the clarification in due course. regards Ramesh souravc108 Sent by: sohamsa 08/14/2007 12:28 PM Please respond to sohamsa To sohamsa cc Subject Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Ramesh-ji, namaskar. 8th is maraka to the 7th and can kill spouse. 2nd is 8th from 7th and hence determines longevity of spouse as well. 12-th is absence or separation from spouse leading to temporary bachelorhood. Malefics in the 2nd house show how separation happens. Sani here can show nindaa (calumny). Best wishes, Sourav =========================================================================== sohamsa , Ramesh.F.Gangaramani wrote: > > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Sanjay P, > Does the harm come to native or spouse? Does the same result hold good for > Mars and Ketu in 2H of D9 too? > regards > Ramesh > > > > > sanjaychettiar > Sent by: sohamsa > 08/14/2007 10:06 AM > Please respond to > sohamsa > > > To > sohamsa > cc > > Subject > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > Dear Nitish, > Mars and Ketu in 6th in general is very bad in Navamsa can indicate > harming/killing spouse. Are you of a violent type? Make sure the Navamsa > lagna is correct first by checking out the trines and your nature. > Warm Regards > Sanjay P > > > > On 8/13/07, yeeahoo_99 nitish.arya wrote: > Dear all, > Does Mars+Ke combination in 6th house in navamsa in the following > chart indicate a dangerous marital relationship? Mars is in exchange > with AK Venus placed with Ra in 12th house, as well as lords the UL > in the rashi chart showing involvement of spouse. > Also, note that the Saturn+Jupiter are also placed together in the > navamsa ascendant, though Ju is lord of lagna in D-9. > > April 5, 1983 > Time: 4:15:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > New Delhi, India > > regards, > nitish > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Rameshji, Yes, I ve already wrote about this reversal Sanjayji taught in Serbija. 2nd and 6th bhava when occupied by Ma+Ke gives pain/death to native. 8th and 12th to spouse (so native is murderer/attacker). I have one chart with Ra+Ma in 12H in D9 and person has very bad mood regarding relationships. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl Ramesh.F.Gangaramani napisał(a): Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Saurav, Are you concluding that Mars and Ketu in 6H or 2H leads to physical harm to spouse, similar to what Sanjay P has mentioned? I asked the question because Sanjayji in his lecture mentions about this combination leading to harm to the native by the spouse. Hope we will get the clarification in due course. regards Ramesh souravc108 Sent by: sohamsa@ .com 08/14/2007 12:28 PM Please respond to sohamsa@ .com To sohamsa@ .com cc Subject Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Ramesh-ji, namaskar. 8th is maraka to the 7th and can kill spouse. 2nd is 8th from 7th and hence determines longevity of spouse as well. 12-th is absence or separation from spouse leading to temporary bachelorhood. Malefics in the 2nd house show how separation happens. Sani here can show nindaa (calumny). Best wishes, Sourav ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= sohamsa@ .com, Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i wrote: > > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Sanjay P, > Does the harm come to native or spouse? Does the same result hold good for > Mars and Ketu in 2H of D9 too? > regards > Ramesh > > > > > sanjaychettiar@ ... > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > 08/14/2007 10:06 AM > Please respond to > sohamsa@ .com > > > To > sohamsa@ .com > cc > > Subject > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > Dear Nitish, > Mars and Ketu in 6th in general is very bad in Navamsa can indicate > harming/killing spouse. Are you of a violent type? Make sure the Navamsa > lagna is correct first by checking out the trines and your nature. > Warm Regards > Sanjay P > > > > On 8/13/07, yeeahoo_99 nitish.arya@ ... wrote: > Dear all, > Does Mars+Ke combination in 6th house in navamsa in the following > chart indicate a dangerous marital relationship? Mars is in exchange > with AK Venus placed with Ra in 12th house, as well as lords the UL > in the rashi chart showing involvement of spouse. > Also, note that the Saturn+Jupiter are also placed together in the > navamsa ascendant, though Ju is lord of lagna in D-9. > > April 5, 1983 > Time: 4:15:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00" > New Delhi, India > > regards, > nitish > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Dear Rafalji and others, Does this change with first spouse, second spouse etc? I have the birthtime of a well known convicted wife killer: Scott Peterson - Oct 24, 1972, San Diego, CA, USA, 9:36am. Web should have lots more info, the killing was very brutal and got lots of attention. He doesnt seem to have this combination, but something similar must show up in such a violent crime, no? Please analyze and show us how this works. With the above time, 8th and 12th house in D-9 are unoccupied and unaspected (by Rasi dristi). Interestingly enough, he had no history of a " bad attitude " towards relationships. At least until one month AFTER wife's disappearance, everyone including wife's parents stood by him, until evidence finally led to his undoing. Thanks Sundeep sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Rameshji, > > Yes, I ve already wrote about this reversal Sanjayji taught in Serbija. > 2nd and 6th bhava when occupied by Ma+Ke gives pain/death to native. 8th > and 12th to spouse (so native is murderer/attacker). I have one chart > with Ra+Ma in 12H in D9 and person has very bad mood regarding > relationships. > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl > > Ramesh.F.Gangaramani napisa?(a): > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > Dear Saurav, > > Are you concluding that Mars and Ketu in 6H or 2H leads to physical > > harm to spouse, similar to what Sanjay P has mentioned? I asked the > > question because Sanjayji in his lecture mentions about this > > combination leading to harm to the native by the spouse. Hope we will > > get the clarification in due course. > > regards > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > *souravc108 * > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > > 08/14/2007 12:28 PM > > > > Please respond to > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > To > > sohamsa@ .com > > cc > > > > Subject > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||* > > > > Dear Ramesh-ji, > > namaskar. 8th is maraka to the 7th > > and can kill spouse. 2nd is 8th from 7th and hence determines > > longevity of spouse as well. 12-th is absence or separation from > > spouse leading to temporary bachelorhood. Malefics in the 2nd house > > show how separation happens. Sani here can show nindaa (calumny). > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Sourav > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= > > ========= ========= > > sohamsa@ .com, Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i wrote: > > > > > > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > Dear Sanjay P, > > > Does the harm come to native or spouse? Does the same result hold > > good for > > > Mars and Ketu in 2H of D9 too? > > > regards > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sanjaychettiar@ ... > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > 08/14/2007 10:06 AM > > > Please respond to > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > To > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > cc > > > > > > Subject > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > Dear Nitish, > > > Mars and Ketu in 6th in general is very bad in Navamsa can indicate > > > harming/killing spouse. Are you of a violent type? Make sure the > > Navamsa > > > lagna is correct first by checking out the trines and your nature. > > > Warm Regards > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/13/07, yeeahoo_99 nitish.arya@ ... wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > Does Mars+Ke combination in 6th house in navamsa in the following > > > chart indicate a dangerous marital relationship? Mars is in exchange > > > with AK Venus placed with Ra in 12th house, as well as lords the UL > > > in the rashi chart showing involvement of spouse. > > > Also, note that the Saturn+Jupiter are also placed together in the > > > navamsa ascendant, though Ju is lord of lagna in D-9. > > > > > > April 5, 1983 > > > Time: 4:15:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > regards, > > > nitish > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Sundeep,There are other combinations also.A vargottama debilitated Rahu in Jupiter's sign spells danger for human life. Rahu is the DK and is conjoined Venus in Navamsa. His wife's body was found beheaded. The whole incident occurred in Vimshottari of Rahu Venus. Another interesting point is that Sun is in MKS, or should I say Venus because of parivartana? To see where the effects of MKS will occur we take the lordships of the planet. Here Venus is the 7th lord. So death like suffering coming to spouse. Venus is aspected by the combination of Jupiter and Rahu from the 2nd house of family and wealth. A major motive could have been finances and the responsibilities of his growing family (as his wife was pregnant).Respectfully,Michalvedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudentsohamsa Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:38:53 AM Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 Dear Rafalji and others, Does this change with first spouse, second spouse etc? I have the birthtime of a well known convicted wife killer: Scott Peterson - Oct 24, 1972, San Diego, CA, USA, 9:36am. Web should have lots more info, the killing was very brutal and got lots of attention. He doesnt seem to have this combination, but something similar must show up in such a violent crime, no? Please analyze and show us how this works. With the above time, 8th and 12th house in D-9 are unoccupied and unaspected (by Rasi dristi). Interestingly enough, he had no history of a "bad attitude" towards relationships. At least until one month AFTER wife's disappearance, everyone including wife's parents stood by him, until evidence finally led to his undoing. Thanks Sundeep sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Rameshji, > > Yes, I ve already wrote about this reversal Sanjayji taught in Serbija. > 2nd and 6th bhava when occupied by Ma+Ke gives pain/death to native. 8th > and 12th to spouse (so native is murderer/attacker) . I have one chart > with Ra+Ma in 12H in D9 and person has very bad mood regarding > relationships. > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl > > Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i napisa?(a): > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > Dear Saurav, > > Are you concluding that Mars and Ketu in 6H or 2H leads to physical > > harm to spouse, similar to what Sanjay P has mentioned? I asked the > > question because Sanjayji in his lecture mentions about this > > combination leading to harm to the native by the spouse. Hope we will > > get the clarification in due course. > > regards > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > *souravc108* > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > > 08/14/2007 12:28 PM > > > > Please respond to > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > To > > sohamsa@ .com > > cc > > > > Subject > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||* > > > > Dear Ramesh-ji, > > namaskar. 8th is maraka to the 7th > > and can kill spouse. 2nd is 8th from 7th and hence determines > > longevity of spouse as well. 12-th is absence or separation from > > spouse leading to temporary bachelorhood. Malefics in the 2nd house > > show how separation happens. Sani here can show nindaa (calumny). > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Sourav > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= > > ========= ========= > > sohamsa@ .com, Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i wrote: > > > > > > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > Dear Sanjay P, > > > Does the harm come to native or spouse? Does the same result hold > > good for > > > Mars and Ketu in 2H of D9 too? > > > regards > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sanjaychettiar@ ... > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > 08/14/2007 10:06 AM > > > Please respond to > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > To > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > cc > > > > > > Subject > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > Dear Nitish, > > > Mars and Ketu in 6th in general is very bad in Navamsa can indicate > > > harming/killing spouse. Are you of a violent type? Make sure the > > Navamsa > > > lagna is correct first by checking out the trines and your nature. > > > Warm Regards > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/13/07, yeeahoo_99 nitish.arya@ ... wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > Does Mars+Ke combination in 6th house in navamsa in the following > > > chart indicate a dangerous marital relationship? Mars is in exchange > > > with AK Venus placed with Ra in 12th house, as well as lords the UL > > > in the rashi chart showing involvement of spouse. > > > Also, note that the Saturn+Jupiter are also placed together in the > > > navamsa ascendant, though Ju is lord of lagna in D-9. > > > > > > April 5, 1983 > > > Time: 4:15:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00" > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > regards, > > > nitish > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. 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Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Dear Michal, Thanks for your input. I think I read in COVA that Rahu as DK means sudden unconventional marriages, although I havent really seen that happen. Even in this case, doesnt really look like there was any trouble for the man. Does Rahu as DK represent the Atma of the spouse, because her experience definitely must have been of shock and betrayal (and is consistent with debilitated, vargottama Rahu as you pointed out). I wonder if this is true - that when Rahu is DK, does the spouse get at least some amount of shock and betrayal? What if it is in Upapada (would that be like Atmakaraka of the spouse in spouse's own Lagna)? Just some thoughts, Sundeep sohamsa , Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote: > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > Dear Sundeep, > > There are other combinations also. > > A vargottama debilitated Rahu in Jupiter's sign spells danger for human life. Rahu is the DK and is conjoined Venus in Navamsa. His wife's body was found beheaded. The whole incident occurred in Vimshottari of Rahu Venus. > > Another interesting point is that Sun is in MKS, or should I say Venus because of parivartana? To see where the effects of MKS will occur we take the lordships of the planet. Here Venus is the 7th lord. So death like suffering coming to spouse. Venus is aspected by the combination of Jupiter and Rahu from the 2nd house of family and wealth. A major motive could have been finances and the responsibilities of his growing family (as his wife was pregnant). > > Respectfully, > Michal > > > vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent > sohamsa > Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:38:53 AM > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji and others, > > > > Does this change with first spouse, second spouse etc? I have the > > birthtime of a well known convicted wife killer: Scott Peterson - > > Oct 24, 1972, San Diego, CA, USA, 9:36am. Web should have lots more > > info, the killing was very brutal and got lots of attention. He > > doesnt seem to have this combination, but something similar must > > show up in such a violent crime, no? > > > > Please analyze and show us how this works. With the above time, 8th > > and 12th house in D-9 are unoccupied and unaspected (by Rasi > > dristi). Interestingly enough, he had no history of a " bad attitude " > > towards relationships. At least until one month AFTER wife's > > disappearance, everyone including wife's parents stood by him, until > > evidence finally led to his undoing. > > > > Thanks > > > > Sundeep > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Rameshji, > > > > > > Yes, I ve already wrote about this reversal Sanjayji taught in > > Serbija. > > > 2nd and 6th bhava when occupied by Ma+Ke gives pain/death to > > native. 8th > > > and 12th to spouse (so native is murderer/attacker) . I have one > > chart > > > with Ra+Ma in 12H in D9 and person has very bad mood regarding > > > relationships. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl > > > > > > Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > Dear Saurav, > > > > Are you concluding that Mars and Ketu in 6H or 2H leads to > > physical > > > > harm to spouse, similar to what Sanjay P has mentioned? I asked > > the > > > > question because Sanjayji in his lecture mentions about this > > > > combination leading to harm to the native by the spouse. Hope we > > will > > > > get the clarification in due course. > > > > regards > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *souravc108* > > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > 08/14/2007 12:28 PM > > > > > > > > Please respond to > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > cc > > > > > > > > Subject > > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||* > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh-ji, > > > > namaskar. 8th is maraka to > > the 7th > > > > and can kill spouse. 2nd is 8th from 7th and hence determines > > > > longevity of spouse as well. 12-th is absence or separation from > > > > spouse leading to temporary bachelorhood. Malefics in the 2nd > > house > > > > show how separation happens. Sani here can show nindaa (calumny). > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= > > > > ========= ========= > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay P, > > > > > Does the harm come to native or spouse? Does the same result > > hold > > > > good for > > > > > Mars and Ketu in 2H of D9 too? > > > > > regards > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sanjaychettiar@ ... > > > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > > > 08/14/2007 10:06 AM > > > > > Please respond to > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > cc > > > > > > > > > > Subject > > > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > Dear Nitish, > > > > > Mars and Ketu in 6th in general is very bad in Navamsa can > > indicate > > > > > harming/killing spouse. Are you of a violent type? Make sure > > the > > > > Navamsa > > > > > lagna is correct first by checking out the trines and your > > nature. > > > > > Warm Regards > > > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/13/07, yeeahoo_99 nitish.arya@ ... wrote: > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > Does Mars+Ke combination in 6th house in navamsa in the > > following > > > > > chart indicate a dangerous marital relationship? 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Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Sundeep, How the time is so accurate? From that chart its evident that it was 2nd relationship, 2L and 3H from 2UL are touched by Guru-Chandala Yoga which shows murder. It was Dec-02 Rahu-Shukra. Shukra is in 8H from 2UL and 8L from 2H with badhakesh from 2H aspecting 3L (maraka) in D9. It was Sc-Vi D9 ND. Sc is 3H, Vi aspects all these Marakas,Badhakesh and Me is with 3L. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl vedicastrostudent napisał(a): Dear Rafalji and others, Does this change with first spouse, second spouse etc? I have the birthtime of a well known convicted wife killer: Scott Peterson - Oct 24, 1972, San Diego, CA, USA, 9:36am. Web should have lots more info, the killing was very brutal and got lots of attention. He doesnt seem to have this combination, but something similar must show up in such a violent crime, no? Please analyze and show us how this works. With the above time, 8th and 12th house in D-9 are unoccupied and unaspected (by Rasi dristi). Interestingly enough, he had no history of a "bad attitude" towards relationships. At least until one month AFTER wife's disappearance, everyone including wife's parents stood by him, until evidence finally led to his undoing. Thanks Sundeep sohamsa@ ..com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Rameshji, > > Yes, I ve already wrote about this reversal Sanjayji taught in Serbija. > 2nd and 6th bhava when occupied by Ma+Ke gives pain/death to native. 8th > and 12th to spouse (so native is murderer/attacker) . I have one chart > with Ra+Ma in 12H in D9 and person has very bad mood regarding > relationships. > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl > > Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i napisa?(a): > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > Dear Saurav, > > Are you concluding that Mars and Ketu in 6H or 2H leads to physical > > harm to spouse, similar to what Sanjay P has mentioned? I asked the > > question because Sanjayji in his lecture mentions about this > > combination leading to harm to the native by the spouse. Hope we will > > get the clarification in due course. > > regards > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > *souravc108* > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > > 08/14/2007 12:28 PM > > > > Please respond to > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > To > > sohamsa@ .com > > cc > > > > Subject > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||* > > > > Dear Ramesh-ji, > > namaskar. 8th is maraka to the 7th > > and can kill spouse. 2nd is 8th from 7th and hence determines > > longevity of spouse as well. 12-th is absence or separation from > > spouse leading to temporary bachelorhood. Malefics in the 2nd house > > show how separation happens. Sani here can show nindaa (calumny). > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Sourav > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= > > ========= ========= > > sohamsa@ .com, Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i wrote: > > > > > > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > Dear Sanjay P, > > > Does the harm come to native or spouse? Does the same result hold > > good for > > > Mars and Ketu in 2H of D9 too? > > > regards > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sanjaychettiar@ ... > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > 08/14/2007 10:06 AM > > > Please respond to > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > To > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > cc > > > > > > Subject > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > Dear Nitish, > > > Mars and Ketu in 6th in general is very bad in Navamsa can indicate > > > harming/killing spouse. Are you of a violent type? Make sure the > > Navamsa > > > lagna is correct first by checking out the trines and your nature. > > > Warm Regards > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/13/07, yeeahoo_99 nitish.arya@ ... wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > Does Mars+Ke combination in 6th house in navamsa in the following > > > chart indicate a dangerous marital relationship? Mars is in exchange > > > with AK Venus placed with Ra in 12th house, as well as lords the UL > > > in the rashi chart showing involvement of spouse. > > > Also, note that the Saturn+Jupiter are also placed together in the > > > navamsa ascendant, though Ju is lord of lagna in D-9. > > > > > > April 5, 1983 > > > Time: 4:15:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00" > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > regards, > > > nitish > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Sundeep, Please refer to AmK lecture about the definition of Ck's. DK is microscopic vision of Your own atma on relationships as these are 8 petals of anahata-chakra. So if DK is Mangal then You are very protective and then can be some rivalry around starting the relationship, while Rahu as DK give sudden meetings//marriagies or at least unconventional and I found it working quite good. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl vedicastrostudent napisał(a): Dear Michal, Thanks for your input. I think I read in COVA that Rahu as DK means sudden unconventional marriages, although I havent really seen that happen. Even in this case, doesnt really look like there was any trouble for the man. Does Rahu as DK represent the Atma of the spouse, because her experience definitely must have been of shock and betrayal (and is consistent with debilitated, vargottama Rahu as you pointed out). I wonder if this is true - that when Rahu is DK, does the spouse get at least some amount of shock and betrayal? What if it is in Upapada (would that be like Atmakaraka of the spouse in spouse's own Lagna)? Just some thoughts, Sundeep sohamsa@ ..com, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@ ...> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > Dear Sundeep, > > There are other combinations also. > > A vargottama debilitated Rahu in Jupiter's sign spells danger for human life. Rahu is the DK and is conjoined Venus in Navamsa. His wife's body was found beheaded. The whole incident occurred in Vimshottari of Rahu Venus. > > Another interesting point is that Sun is in MKS, or should I say Venus because of parivartana? To see where the effects of MKS will occur we take the lordships of the planet. Here Venus is the 7th lord. So death like suffering coming to spouse. Venus is aspected by the combination of Jupiter and Rahu from the 2nd house of family and wealth. A major motive could have been finances and the responsibilities of his growing family (as his wife was pregnant). > > Respectfully, > Michal > > > vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@ ...> > sohamsa@ ..com > Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:38:53 AM > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji and others, > > > > Does this change with first spouse, second spouse etc? I have the > > birthtime of a well known convicted wife killer: Scott Peterson - > > Oct 24, 1972, San Diego, CA, USA, 9:36am. Web should have lots more > > info, the killing was very brutal and got lots of attention. He > > doesnt seem to have this combination, but something similar must > > show up in such a violent crime, no? > > > > Please analyze and show us how this works. With the above time, 8th > > and 12th house in D-9 are unoccupied and unaspected (by Rasi > > dristi). Interestingly enough, he had no history of a "bad attitude" > > towards relationships. At least until one month AFTER wife's > > disappearance, everyone including wife's parents stood by him, until > > evidence finally led to his undoing. > > > > Thanks > > > > Sundeep > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ....> > > wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Rameshji, > > > > > > Yes, I ve already wrote about this reversal Sanjayji taught in > > Serbija. > > > 2nd and 6th bhava when occupied by Ma+Ke gives pain/death to > > native. 8th > > > and 12th to spouse (so native is murderer/attacker) . I have one > > chart > > > with Ra+Ma in 12H in D9 and person has very bad mood regarding > > > relationships. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl > > > > > > Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > Dear Saurav, > > > > Are you concluding that Mars and Ketu in 6H or 2H leads to > > physical > > > > harm to spouse, similar to what Sanjay P has mentioned? I asked > > the > > > > question because Sanjayji in his lecture mentions about this > > > > combination leading to harm to the native by the spouse. Hope we > > will > > > > get the clarification in due course. > > > > regards > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *souravc108* > > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > 08/14/2007 12:28 PM > > > > > > > > Please respond to > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > cc > > > > > > > > Subject > > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||* > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh-ji, > > > > namaskar. 8th is maraka to > > the 7th > > > > and can kill spouse. 2nd is 8th from 7th and hence determines > > > > longevity of spouse as well. 12-th is absence or separation from > > > > spouse leading to temporary bachelorhood. Malefics in the 2nd > > house > > > > show how separation happens. Sani here can show nindaa (calumny). > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= > > > > ========= ========= > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay P, > > > > > Does the harm come to native or spouse? Does the same result > > hold > > > > good for > > > > > Mars and Ketu in 2H of D9 too? > > > > > regards > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sanjaychettiar@ ... > > > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > > > 08/14/2007 10:06 AM > > > > > Please respond to > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > cc > > > > > > > > > > Subject > > > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > Dear Nitish, > > > > > Mars and Ketu in 6th in general is very bad in Navamsa can > > indicate > > > > > harming/killing spouse. Are you of a violent type? Make sure > > the > > > > Navamsa > > > > > lagna is correct first by checking out the trines and your > > nature. > > > > > Warm Regards > > > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/13/07, yeeahoo_99 nitish.arya@ ... wrote: > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > Does Mars+Ke combination in 6th house in navamsa in the > > following > > > > > chart indicate a dangerous marital relationship? Mars is in > > exchange > > > > > with AK Venus placed with Ra in 12th house, as well as lords > > the UL > > > > > in the rashi chart showing involvement of spouse. > > > > > Also, note that the Saturn+Jupiter are also placed together in > > the > > > > > navamsa ascendant, though Ju is lord of lagna in D-9. > > > > > > > > > > April 5, 1983 > > > > > Time: 4:15:00 > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00" > > > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > nitish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;} > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;} > #ygrp-text{ > font-family: Georgia; > } > #ygrp-text p{ > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > font-family: Arial; > clear:both;} > #ygrp-vitnav{ > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;} > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > padding:0 1px;} > #ygrp-actbar{ > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text- align:right; } > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > float:left;white- space:nowrap; } > .bld{font-weight: bold;} > #ygrp-grft{ > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;} > #ygrp-ft{ > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666; > padding:5px 0; > } > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > padding-bottom: 10px;} > > #ygrp-vital{ > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; color:#333; text- transform:uppercase ;} > #ygrp-vital ul{ > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;} > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee; > } > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text- align:right; padding-right: .5em;} > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > font-weight: bold;} > #ygrp-vital a { > text-decoration: none;} > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > text-decoration: underline; } > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > color:#999;font- size:77%; } > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; } > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;} > #ygrp-sponsor #nc { > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > padding:8px 0;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font- size:100%;line- height:122% ;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > text-decoration: none;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > text-decoration: underline; } > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > margin:0;} > o {font-size:0; } > .MsoNormal { > margin:0 0 0 0;} > #ygrp-text tt{ > font-size:120% ;} > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;} > .replbq {margin:4;} > --> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ ____________ ___ > Luggage? 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Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Sundeep,If DK was Atma of the spouse then what would AmK be? Atma of my boss? GK? Do all my relatives have the same Atma? No. The principle must apply across the board. The carakarakas in the chart are all you.Extend this another way. The rajyoga that occurs with AK and PK - it is not a guarantee that your children will support you, but rather that you will have supporters. And why will people support you? Because you are worthy of that support because of this combiantion in your chart.In the case of Peterson that terrible Rahu happened to be DK, so that is what he does to the spouse. His soul level functioning with regard to his spouse is totally haywire.Hope this helps understanding.Respectfully,Michalvedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudentsohamsa Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:32:00 PM Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 Dear Michal, Thanks for your input. I think I read in COVA that Rahu as DK means sudden unconventional marriages, although I havent really seen that happen. Even in this case, doesnt really look like there was any trouble for the man. Does Rahu as DK represent the Atma of the spouse, because her experience definitely must have been of shock and betrayal (and is consistent with debilitated, vargottama Rahu as you pointed out). I wonder if this is true - that when Rahu is DK, does the spouse get at least some amount of shock and betrayal? What if it is in Upapada (would that be like Atmakaraka of the spouse in spouse's own Lagna)? Just some thoughts, Sundeep sohamsa@ .com, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@ ...> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > Dear Sundeep, > > There are other combinations also. > > A vargottama debilitated Rahu in Jupiter's sign spells danger for human life. Rahu is the DK and is conjoined Venus in Navamsa. His wife's body was found beheaded. The whole incident occurred in Vimshottari of Rahu Venus. > > Another interesting point is that Sun is in MKS, or should I say Venus because of parivartana? To see where the effects of MKS will occur we take the lordships of the planet. Here Venus is the 7th lord. So death like suffering coming to spouse. Venus is aspected by the combination of Jupiter and Rahu from the 2nd house of family and wealth. A major motive could have been finances and the responsibilities of his growing family (as his wife was pregnant). > > Respectfully, > Michal > > > vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@ ...> > sohamsa@ .com > Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:38:53 AM > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji and others, > > > > Does this change with first spouse, second spouse etc? I have the > > birthtime of a well known convicted wife killer: Scott Peterson - > > Oct 24, 1972, San Diego, CA, USA, 9:36am. Web should have lots more > > info, the killing was very brutal and got lots of attention. He > > doesnt seem to have this combination, but something similar must > > show up in such a violent crime, no? > > > > Please analyze and show us how this works. With the above time, 8th > > and 12th house in D-9 are unoccupied and unaspected (by Rasi > > dristi). Interestingly enough, he had no history of a "bad attitude" > > towards relationships. At least until one month AFTER wife's > > disappearance, everyone including wife's parents stood by him, until > > evidence finally led to his undoing. > > > > Thanks > > > > Sundeep > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Rameshji, > > > > > > Yes, I ve already wrote about this reversal Sanjayji taught in > > Serbija. > > > 2nd and 6th bhava when occupied by Ma+Ke gives pain/death to > > native. 8th > > > and 12th to spouse (so native is murderer/attacker) . I have one > > chart > > > with Ra+Ma in 12H in D9 and person has very bad mood regarding > > > relationships. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl > > > > > > Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > Dear Saurav, > > > > Are you concluding that Mars and Ketu in 6H or 2H leads to > > physical > > > > harm to spouse, similar to what Sanjay P has mentioned? I asked > > the > > > > question because Sanjayji in his lecture mentions about this > > > > combination leading to harm to the native by the spouse. Hope we > > will > > > > get the clarification in due course. > > > > regards > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *souravc108* > > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > 08/14/2007 12:28 PM > > > > > > > > Please respond to > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > cc > > > > > > > > Subject > > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||* > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh-ji, > > > > namaskar. 8th is maraka to > > the 7th > > > > and can kill spouse. 2nd is 8th from 7th and hence determines > > > > longevity of spouse as well. 12-th is absence or separation from > > > > spouse leading to temporary bachelorhood. Malefics in the 2nd > > house > > > > show how separation happens. Sani here can show nindaa (calumny). > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= > > > > ========= ========= > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay P, > > > > > Does the harm come to native or spouse? Does the same result > > hold > > > > good for > > > > > Mars and Ketu in 2H of D9 too? > > > > > regards > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sanjaychettiar@ ... > > > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > > > 08/14/2007 10:06 AM > > > > > Please respond to > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > cc > > > > > > > > > > Subject > > > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > Dear Nitish, > > > > > Mars and Ketu in 6th in general is very bad in Navamsa can > > indicate > > > > > harming/killing spouse. Are you of a violent type? Make sure > > the > > > > Navamsa > > > > > lagna is correct first by checking out the trines and your > > nature. > > > > > Warm Regards > > > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/13/07, yeeahoo_99 nitish.arya@ ... wrote: > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > Does Mars+Ke combination in 6th house in navamsa in the > > following > > > > > chart indicate a dangerous marital relationship? Mars is in > > exchange > > > > > with AK Venus placed with Ra in 12th house, as well as lords > > the UL > > > > > in the rashi chart showing involvement of spouse. > > > > > Also, note that the Saturn+Jupiter are also placed together in > > the > > > > > navamsa ascendant, though Ju is lord of lagna in D-9. > > > > > > > > > > April 5, 1983 > > > > > Time: 4:15:00 > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00" > > > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > nitish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;} > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;} > #ygrp-text{ > font-family: Georgia; > } > #ygrp-text p{ > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > font-family: Arial; > clear:both;} > #ygrp-vitnav{ > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;} > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > padding:0 1px;} > #ygrp-actbar{ > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text- align:right; } > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > float:left;white- space:nowrap; } > .bld{font-weight: bold;} > #ygrp-grft{ > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;} > #ygrp-ft{ > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666; > padding:5px 0; > } > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > padding-bottom: 10px;} > > #ygrp-vital{ > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; color:#333; text- transform:uppercase ;} > #ygrp-vital ul{ > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;} > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee; > } > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text- align:right; padding-right: .5em;} > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > font-weight: bold;} > #ygrp-vital a { > text-decoration: none;} > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > text-decoration: underline; } > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > color:#999;font- size:77%; } > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; } > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;} > #ygrp-sponsor #nc { > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > padding:8px 0;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font- size:100%;line- height:122% ;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > text-decoration: none;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > text-decoration: underline; } > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > margin:0;} > o {font-size:0; } > .MsoNormal { > margin:0 0 0 0;} > #ygrp-text tt{ > font-size:120% ;} > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;} > .replbq {margin:4;} > --> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ ____________ ___ > Luggage? 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Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Michael, I think that You know this : Rahu DK doesnt neccesarily show person is cheater in marriage, it only shows context/issue in which relationship arise. For further investigation rest of karakas and vargas must be seen. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Michal Dziwulski napisał(a): Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Sundeep, If DK was Atma of the spouse then what would AmK be? Atma of my boss? GK? Do all my relatives have the same Atma? No. The principle must apply across the board. The carakarakas in the chart are all you. Extend this another way. The rajyoga that occurs with AK and PK - it is not a guarantee that your children will support you, but rather that you will have supporters. And why will people support you? Because you are worthy of that support because of this combiantion in your chart. In the case of Peterson that terrible Rahu happened to be DK, so that is what he does to the spouse. His soul level functioning with regard to his spouse is totally haywire. Hope this helps understanding. Respectfully, Michal ----- Original Message ---- vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent > sohamsa Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:32:00 PM Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 Dear Michal, Thanks for your input. I think I read in COVA that Rahu as DK means sudden unconventional marriages, although I havent really seen that happen. Even in this case, doesnt really look like there was any trouble for the man. Does Rahu as DK represent the Atma of the spouse, because her experience definitely must have been of shock and betrayal (and is consistent with debilitated, vargottama Rahu as you pointed out). I wonder if this is true - that when Rahu is DK, does the spouse get at least some amount of shock and betrayal? What if it is in Upapada (would that be like Atmakaraka of the spouse in spouse's own Lagna)? Just some thoughts, Sundeep sohamsa@ .com, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@ ...> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > Dear Sundeep, > > There are other combinations also. > > A vargottama debilitated Rahu in Jupiter's sign spells danger for human life. Rahu is the DK and is conjoined Venus in Navamsa. His wife's body was found beheaded. The whole incident occurred in Vimshottari of Rahu Venus. > > Another interesting point is that Sun is in MKS, or should I say Venus because of parivartana? To see where the effects of MKS will occur we take the lordships of the planet. Here Venus is the 7th lord. So death like suffering coming to spouse. Venus is aspected by the combination of Jupiter and Rahu from the 2nd house of family and wealth. A major motive could have been finances and the responsibilities of his growing family (as his wife was pregnant). > > Respectfully, > Michal > > > vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@ ...> > sohamsa@ .com > Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:38:53 AM > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji and others, > > > > Does this change with first spouse, second spouse etc? I have the > > birthtime of a well known convicted wife killer: Scott Peterson - > > Oct 24, 1972, San Diego, CA, USA, 9:36am. Web should have lots more > > info, the killing was very brutal and got lots of attention. He > > doesnt seem to have this combination, but something similar must > > show up in such a violent crime, no? > > > > Please analyze and show us how this works. With the above time, 8th > > and 12th house in D-9 are unoccupied and unaspected (by Rasi > > dristi). Interestingly enough, he had no history of a "bad attitude" > > towards relationships. At least until one month AFTER wife's > > disappearance, everyone including wife's parents stood by him, until > > evidence finally led to his undoing. > > > > Thanks > > > > Sundeep > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ....> > > wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Rameshji, > > > > > > Yes, I ve already wrote about this reversal Sanjayji taught in > > Serbija. > > > 2nd and 6th bhava when occupied by Ma+Ke gives pain/death to > > native. 8th > > > and 12th to spouse (so native is murderer/attacker) . I have one > > chart > > > with Ra+Ma in 12H in D9 and person has very bad mood regarding > > > relationships. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl > > > > > > Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > Dear Saurav, > > > > Are you concluding that Mars and Ketu in 6H or 2H leads to > > physical > > > > harm to spouse, similar to what Sanjay P has mentioned? I asked > > the > > > > question because Sanjayji in his lecture mentions about this > > > > combination leading to harm to the native by the spouse. Hope we > > will > > > > get the clarification in due course. > > > > regards > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *souravc108* > > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > 08/14/2007 12:28 PM > > > > > > > > Please respond to > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > cc > > > > > > > > Subject > > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||* > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh-ji, > > > > namaskar. 8th is maraka to > > the 7th > > > > and can kill spouse. 2nd is 8th from 7th and hence determines > > > > longevity of spouse as well. 12-th is absence or separation from > > > > spouse leading to temporary bachelorhood. Malefics in the 2nd > > house > > > > show how separation happens. Sani here can show nindaa (calumny). > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= > > > > ========= ========= > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay P, > > > > > Does the harm come to native or spouse? Does the same result > > hold > > > > good for > > > > > Mars and Ketu in 2H of D9 too? > > > > > regards > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sanjaychettiar@ ... > > > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > > > 08/14/2007 10:06 AM > > > > > Please respond to > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > cc > > > > > > > > > > Subject > > > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > Dear Nitish, > > > > > Mars and Ketu in 6th in general is very bad in Navamsa can > > indicate > > > > > harming/killing spouse. Are you of a violent type? Make sure > > the > > > > Navamsa > > > > > lagna is correct first by checking out the trines and your > > nature. > > > > > Warm Regards > > > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/13/07, yeeahoo_99 nitish.arya@ ... wrote: > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > Does Mars+Ke combination in 6th house in navamsa in the > > following > > > > > chart indicate a dangerous marital relationship? Mars is in > > exchange > > > > > with AK Venus placed with Ra in 12th house, as well as lords > > the UL > > > > > in the rashi chart showing involvement of spouse. > > > > > Also, note that the Saturn+Jupiter are also placed together in > > the > > > > > navamsa ascendant, though Ju is lord of lagna in D-9. > > > > > > > > > > April 5, 1983 > > > > > Time: 4:15:00 > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00" > > > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > nitish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;} > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;} > #ygrp-text{ > font-family: Georgia; > } > #ygrp-text p{ > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > font-family: Arial; > clear:both;} > #ygrp-vitnav{ > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;} > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > padding:0 1px;} > #ygrp-actbar{ > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text- align:right; } > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > float:left;white- space:nowrap; } > .bld{font-weight: bold;} > #ygrp-grft{ > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;} > #ygrp-ft{ > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666; > padding:5px 0; > } > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > padding-bottom: 10px;} > > #ygrp-vital{ > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; color:#333; text- transform:uppercase ;} > #ygrp-vital ul{ > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;} > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee; > } > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text- align:right; padding-right: .5em;} > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > font-weight: bold;} > #ygrp-vital a { > text-decoration: none;} > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > text-decoration: underline; } > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > color:#999;font- size:77%; } > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; } > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;} > #ygrp-sponsor #nc { > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > padding:8px 0;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font- size:100%;line- height:122% ;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > text-decoration: none;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > text-decoration: underline; } > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > margin:0;} > o {font-size:0; } > .MsoNormal { > margin:0 0 0 0;} > #ygrp-text tt{ > font-size:120% ;} > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;} > .replbq {margin:4;} > --> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ ____________ ___ > Luggage? 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Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Hi everyone, It seems that Mars/Ketu is worse malefic than Mars/Rahu- both violent combination though? If yes, I'd like to hear the reason why is that. Thanks, Anna Ramesh.F.Gangaramani wrote: Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Sanjay P, Does the harm come to native or spouse? Does the same result hold good for Mars and Ketu in 2H of D9 too? regards Ramesh sanjaychettiar Sent by: sohamsa 08/14/2007 10:06 AM Please respond tosohamsa To sohamsa cc Subject Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Nitish, Mars and Ketu in 6th in general is very bad in Navamsa can indicate harming/killing spouse. Are you of a violent type? Make sure the Navamsa lagna is correct first by checking out the trines and your nature. Warm Regards Sanjay P On 8/13/07, yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya > wrote: Dear all,Does Mars+Ke combination in 6th house in navamsa in the following chart indicate a dangerous marital relationship? Mars is in exchange with AK Venus placed with Ra in 12th house, as well as lords the UL in the rashi chart showing involvement of spouse. Also, note that the Saturn+Jupiter are also placed together in the navamsa ascendant, though Ju is lord of lagna in D-9.April 5, 1983Time: 4:15:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"New Delhi, Indiaregards,nitish Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Dear Rafalji, Thank you. I dont know exactly why the time is so accurate, it is probably from hospital records because thats the only time I saw on the web (a long time ago) when I got it.. Sundeep sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Sundeep, > > How the time is so accurate? > > From that chart its evident that it was 2nd relationship, 2L and 3H > from 2UL are touched by Guru-Chandala Yoga which shows murder. It was > Dec-02 Rahu-Shukra. Shukra is in 8H from 2UL and 8L from 2H with > badhakesh from 2H aspecting 3L (maraka) in D9. It was Sc-Vi D9 ND. Sc is > 3H, Vi aspects all these Marakas,Badhakesh and Me is with 3L. > > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl > > > vedicastrostudent napisa?(a): > > > > Dear Rafalji and others, > > > > Does this change with first spouse, second spouse etc? I have the > > birthtime of a well known convicted wife killer: Scott Peterson - > > Oct 24, 1972, San Diego, CA, USA, 9:36am. Web should have lots more > > info, the killing was very brutal and got lots of attention. He > > doesnt seem to have this combination, but something similar must > > show up in such a violent crime, no? > > > > Please analyze and show us how this works. With the above time, 8th > > and 12th house in D-9 are unoccupied and unaspected (by Rasi > > dristi). Interestingly enough, he had no history of a " bad attitude " > > towards relationships. At least until one month AFTER wife's > > disappearance, everyone including wife's parents stood by him, until > > evidence finally led to his undoing. > > > > Thanks > > > > Sundeep > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Rameshji, > > > > > > Yes, I ve already wrote about this reversal Sanjayji taught in > > Serbija. > > > 2nd and 6th bhava when occupied by Ma+Ke gives pain/death to > > native. 8th > > > and 12th to spouse (so native is murderer/attacker) . I have one > > chart > > > with Ra+Ma in 12H in D9 and person has very bad mood regarding > > > relationships. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl > > <http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl> > > > > > > Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > Dear Saurav, > > > > Are you concluding that Mars and Ketu in 6H or 2H leads to > > physical > > > > harm to spouse, similar to what Sanjay P has mentioned? I asked > > the > > > > question because Sanjayji in his lecture mentions about this > > > > combination leading to harm to the native by the spouse. Hope we > > will > > > > get the clarification in due course. > > > > regards > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *souravc108* > > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > 08/14/2007 12:28 PM > > > > > > > > Please respond to > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > cc > > > > > > > > Subject > > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||* > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh-ji, > > > > namaskar. 8th is maraka to > > the 7th > > > > and can kill spouse. 2nd is 8th from 7th and hence determines > > > > longevity of spouse as well. 12-th is absence or separation from > > > > spouse leading to temporary bachelorhood. Malefics in the 2nd > > house > > > > show how separation happens. Sani here can show nindaa (calumny). > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= > > > > ========= ========= > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay P, > > > > > Does the harm come to native or spouse? Does the same result > > hold > > > > good for > > > > > Mars and Ketu in 2H of D9 too? > > > > > regards > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sanjaychettiar@ ... > > > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > > > 08/14/2007 10:06 AM > > > > > Please respond to > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > cc > > > > > > > > > > Subject > > > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > Dear Nitish, > > > > > Mars and Ketu in 6th in general is very bad in Navamsa can > > indicate > > > > > harming/killing spouse. Are you of a violent type? Make sure > > the > > > > Navamsa > > > > > lagna is correct first by checking out the trines and your > > nature. > > > > > Warm Regards > > > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/13/07, yeeahoo_99 nitish.arya@ ... wrote: > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > Does Mars+Ke combination in 6th house in navamsa in the > > following > > > > > chart indicate a dangerous marital relationship? Mars is in > > exchange > > > > > with AK Venus placed with Ra in 12th house, as well as lords > > the UL > > > > > in the rashi chart showing involvement of spouse. > > > > > Also, note that the Saturn+Jupiter are also placed together in > > the > > > > > navamsa ascendant, though Ju is lord of lagna in D-9. > > > > > > > > > > April 5, 1983 > > > > > Time: 4:15:00 > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > nitish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Dear Michal, Thanks for your reply (also Rafalji, if you're reading). On re- reading what I'd written, I guess I didnt make too much sense. I realize that the DK cannot be the Atmakaraka of the spouse, but the Atma level attitude toward the spouse as you say. But I'm still unsure: Perhaps the only thing that we can really settle down to is: the Atma level overall experience with the spouse. The difference between attitude and overall experience is that in " attitude " we are specifically naming the doer as the native. In " overall experience " we arent naming the doer (could be either way or both). Hope you see my confusion: In Scott Peterson's chart there is a debilitated vargottama Rahu as DK, and clearly the experience must have been of pain and shock and betrayal, where the doer was Scott and the receiver was Laci (his wife). Or was Scott on the receiving end of some Rahu-ness too? I remember a few days ago I looked at Coretta Scott King's chart (the wife of Martin Luther King, birthtime unknown, birthday 27 April 1927, Marion, AL, USA). Her DK is Jupiter in Devalokamsa in Dasa Varga (7/10, Jupiter is Pisces Rasi, Cancer Navamsa). That does not change on that day (since I dont have the exact birthtime). So here, at the Atma level, doesnt this Jupiter reflect not just on her attitude towards him, but also her overall experience of him (i.e. attributing some Jupiter-ness to him - he is the well known MLK after all).. I still havent looked at the article Rafalji referred me too.. I will do that - perhaps that will clear this up.. Thanks, Sundeep sohamsa , Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote: > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > Dear Sundeep, > > If DK was Atma of the spouse then what would AmK be? Atma of my boss? GK? Do all my relatives have the same Atma? No. The principle must apply across the board. The carakarakas in the chart are all you. > > Extend this another way. The rajyoga that occurs with AK and PK - it is not a guarantee that your children will support you, but rather that you will have supporters. And why will people support you? Because you are worthy of that support because of this combiantion in your chart. > > In the case of Peterson that terrible Rahu happened to be DK, so that is what he does to the spouse. His soul level functioning with regard to his spouse is totally haywire. > > Hope this helps understanding. > > Respectfully, > Michal > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Hi Anna, and anyone else who is intersted I have Sat/Ke conjunct dead opposite Ma and Ra in close conjunction in D1, D9 and almost all other vargas I am willing to be a guniea pig to anyone who wants data. It has been a very intersting life and certainly not one for the faint hearted. Oct 24 1962 N Delhi India 1:37 pm recorded, corrected 1:30 pm by Guru Lakshmi Soumit \ 108ar <bona_mente wrotes : Hi everyone, It seems that Mars/Ketu is worse malefic than Mars/Rahu- both violent combination though? If yes, I'd like to hear the reason why is that. Thanks, Anna Ramesh.F.Gangaramani wrote: Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Sanjay P, Does the harm come to native or spouse? Does the same result hold good for Mars and Ketu in 2H of D9 too? regards Ramesh sanjaychettiar Sent by: sohamsa 08/14/2007 10:06 AM Please respond tosohamsa To sohamsa cc Subject Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Nitish, Mars and Ketu in 6th in general is very bad in Navamsa can indicate harming/killing spouse. Are you of a violent type? Make sure the Navamsa lagna is correct first by checking out the trines and your nature. Warm Regards Sanjay P On 8/13/07, yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya > wrote: Dear all,Does Mars+Ke combination in 6th house in navamsa in the following chart indicate a dangerous marital relationship? Mars is in exchange with AK Venus placed with Ra in 12th house, as well as lords the UL in the rashi chart showing involvement of spouse. Also, note that the Saturn+Jupiter are also placed together in the navamsa ascendant, though Ju is lord of lagna in D-9.April 5, 1983Time: 4:15:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"New Delhi, Indiaregards,nitish Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! soumit guhajava_sgt Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Hare Rama Krishna Dear all, The influence of Jupiter ,especially a well placed jupiter, can alter the effects of malefic planets.Soumit for example,your Jupiter is in sag, and aspects the 6th, the 12th houses ,by rashi dristhi and aspects the navamsa lagna as well . Venus has the ability to protect the health. There are other planetary combinations that give/ensure long life. Everybody has to die sometime,what circumstances are " NICE " - and who do you think will be there when you die- more than likely your spouse and family. Unnatural deaths are most common, car accidents,results of war,disease of cancer,starvation and deprivation,or over indulgance in food and/or drink,exposure to chemicals and toxins,suicide,etc etc Please do not jump to conclusions about your chart or those of others! The rasi and navamsa chart should have similiar conclusions. Read Sanjays paper and listen carefully to the lectures , otherwise every other person will be worried their spouse will kill them and vice versa. Best wishes Lakshmi sohamsa , Soumit Guha <java_sgt wrote: > > Hi Anna, and anyone else who is intersted > I have Sat/Ke conjunct dead opposite Ma and Ra in close conjunction in D1, D9 and almost all other vargas > I am willing to be a guniea pig to anyone who wants data. > It has been a very intersting life and certainly not one for the faint hearted. > Oct 24 1962 N Delhi India 1:37 pm recorded, corrected 1:30 pm by Guru Lakshmi > Soumit > > > > > \ > > > 108ar <bona_mente wrotes > : > Hi everyone, > It seems that Mars/Ketu is worse malefic than Mars/Rahu- both violent combination though? If yes, I'd like to hear the reason why is that. > Thanks, > Anna > > > Ramesh.F.Gangaramani wrote: > > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Sanjay P, > Does the harm come to native or spouse? Does the same result hold good for Mars and Ketu in 2H of D9 too? > regards > Ramesh > > > > sanjaychettiar > Sent by: sohamsa 08/14/2007 10:06 AM Please respond to > sohamsa > > > To > sohamsa cc > Subject > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Nitish, > Mars and Ketu in 6th in general is very bad in Navamsa can indicate harming/killing spouse. Are you of a violent type? Make sure the Navamsa lagna is correct first by checking out the trines and your nature. > Warm Regards > Sanjay P > > > > On 8/13/07, yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya wrote: Dear all, > Does Mars+Ke combination in 6th house in navamsa in the following > chart indicate a dangerous marital relationship? Mars is in exchange > with AK Venus placed with Ra in 12th house, as well as lords the UL > in the rashi chart showing involvement of spouse. > Also, note that the Saturn+Jupiter are also placed together in the > navamsa ascendant, though Ju is lord of lagna in D-9. > > April 5, 1983 > Time: 4:15:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > New Delhi, India > > regards, > nitish > > > > > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! > > > > > soumit guha > java_sgt > > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Sundeep,Not suprising - Martin Luther King was a baptist minister and won the nobel peace prize. Sounds like Jupiter to me. Astrodatabank gives 16:00 for Coretta Scott King which gives Virgo ascendant. The UL is in Dhanus and third from there is lorded by exalted Rahu conjoined Mars in a sign of Mercury. He was shot in Vimshottari of Mercury Rahu. Debilitated Mercury is the badakesh from the 7th lord and 7th house and conjoins them.Respectfully,Michal vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudentsohamsa Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:11:54 AM Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 Dear Michal, Thanks for your reply (also Rafalji, if you're reading). On re- reading what I'd written, I guess I didnt make too much sense. I realize that the DK cannot be the Atmakaraka of the spouse, but the Atma level attitude toward the spouse as you say. But I'm still unsure: Perhaps the only thing that we can really settle down to is: the Atma level overall experience with the spouse. The difference between attitude and overall experience is that in "attitude" we are specifically naming the doer as the native. In "overall experience" we arent naming the doer (could be either way or both). Hope you see my confusion: In Scott Peterson's chart there is a debilitated vargottama Rahu as DK, and clearly the experience must have been of pain and shock and betrayal, where the doer was Scott and the receiver was Laci (his wife). Or was Scott on the receiving end of some Rahu-ness too? I remember a few days ago I looked at Coretta Scott King's chart (the wife of Martin Luther King, birthtime unknown, birthday 27 April 1927, Marion, AL, USA). Her DK is Jupiter in Devalokamsa in Dasa Varga (7/10, Jupiter is Pisces Rasi, Cancer Navamsa). That does not change on that day (since I dont have the exact birthtime). So here, at the Atma level, doesnt this Jupiter reflect not just on her attitude towards him, but also her overall experience of him (i.e. attributing some Jupiter-ness to him - he is the well known MLK after all).. I still havent looked at the article Rafalji referred me too.. I will do that - perhaps that will clear this up.. Thanks, Sundeep sohamsa@ .com, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@ ...> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > Dear Sundeep, > > If DK was Atma of the spouse then what would AmK be? Atma of my boss? GK? Do all my relatives have the same Atma? No. The principle must apply across the board. The carakarakas in the chart are all you. > > Extend this another way. The rajyoga that occurs with AK and PK - it is not a guarantee that your children will support you, but rather that you will have supporters. And why will people support you? Because you are worthy of that support because of this combiantion in your chart. > > In the case of Peterson that terrible Rahu happened to be DK, so that is what he does to the spouse. His soul level functioning with regard to his spouse is totally haywire. > > Hope this helps understanding. > > Respectfully, > Michal > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Dear Rafalji, You explain your points with very few words! Just so I know I understand you, am I correct in assuming that you are saying that DK does NOT NECESSARILY show the attitude of the person, but the context, perhaps because Charakarakas are NOT at the mind level, but at the Atma level, so their effects can show up in deeper ways e.g. influencing the environment/context in which the mind functions. In other words, Scott Peterson's debilitated vargottama Rahu DK is not enough to conclusively say that his attitude must have been haywire, only that Rahu-ness must have surely manifested somewhere in a relationship context. Similarly, Coretta Scott King's Devalokamsa Jupiter DK is not sufficient to conclude that MLK must have been a good man (there would have to be (and probably are) other indications for that). The DK only shows the overall context, and does not conclusively imply OR rule out specific characteristics of the spouse. Do I understand you correctly? So in the cases in which I earlier said I had seen Rahu DK, but nothing sudden nor unconventional about the marriage, the Rahu-ness perhaps manifested elsewhere in the relationship context.. Thanks, Sundeep sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Michael, > > I think that You know this : > Rahu DK doesnt neccesarily show person is cheater in marriage, it only > shows context/issue in which relationship arise. For further > investigation rest of karakas and vargas must be seen. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > Michal Dziwulski napisa?(a): > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > Dear Sundeep, > > > > If DK was Atma of the spouse then what would AmK be? Atma of my > > boss? GK? Do all my relatives have the same Atma? No. The > > principle must apply across the board. The carakarakas in the chart > > are all you. > > > > Extend this another way. The rajyoga that occurs with AK and PK - it > > is not a guarantee that your children will support you, but rather > > that you will have supporters. And why will people support you? > > Because you are worthy of that support because of this combiantion in > > your chart. > > > > In the case of Peterson that terrible Rahu happened to be DK, so that > > is what he does to the spouse. His soul level functioning with regard > > to his spouse is totally haywire. > > > > Hope this helps understanding. > > > > Respectfully, > > Michal > > > > > > vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent > > sohamsa > > Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:32:00 PM > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > Dear Michal, > > Thanks for your input. I think I read in COVA that Rahu as DK means > > sudden unconventional marriages, although I havent really seen that > > happen. Even in this case, doesnt really look like there was any > > trouble for the man. Does Rahu as DK represent the Atma of the > > spouse, because her experience definitely must have been of shock > > and betrayal (and is consistent with debilitated, vargottama Rahu as > > you pointed out). > > > > I wonder if this is true - that when Rahu is DK, does the spouse get > > at least some amount of shock and betrayal? What if it is in Upapada > > (would that be like Atmakaraka of the spouse in spouse's own Lagna)? > > > > Just some thoughts, > > > > Sundeep > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40>, > > Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > Dear Sundeep, > > > > > > There are other combinations also. > > > > > > A vargottama debilitated Rahu in Jupiter's sign spells danger for > > human life. Rahu is the DK and is conjoined Venus in Navamsa. His > > wife's body was found beheaded. The whole incident occurred in > > Vimshottari of Rahu Venus. > > > > > > Another interesting point is that Sun is in MKS, or should I say > > Venus because of parivartana? To see where the effects of MKS will > > occur we take the lordships of the planet. Here Venus is the 7th > > lord. So death like suffering coming to spouse. Venus is aspected > > by the combination of Jupiter and Rahu from the 2nd house of family > > and wealth. A major motive could have been finances and the > > responsibilities of his growing family (as his wife was pregnant). > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@ ...> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40> > > > Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:38:53 AM > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji and others, > > > > > > > > > > > > Does this change with first spouse, second spouse etc? I have the > > > > > > birthtime of a well known convicted wife killer: Scott Peterson - > > > > > > Oct 24, 1972, San Diego, CA, USA, 9:36am. Web should have lots > > more > > > > > > info, the killing was very brutal and got lots of attention. He > > > > > > doesnt seem to have this combination, but something similar must > > > > > > show up in such a violent crime, no? > > > > > > > > > > > > Please analyze and show us how this works. With the above time, > > 8th > > > > > > and 12th house in D-9 are unoccupied and unaspected (by Rasi > > > > > > dristi). Interestingly enough, he had no history of a " bad > > attitude " > > > > > > towards relationships. At least until one month AFTER wife's > > > > > > disappearance, everyone including wife's parents stood by him, > > until > > > > > > evidence finally led to his undoing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rameshji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I ve already wrote about this reversal Sanjayji taught in > > > > > > Serbija. > > > > > > > 2nd and 6th bhava when occupied by Ma+Ke gives pain/death to > > > > > > native. 8th > > > > > > > and 12th to spouse (so native is murderer/attacker) . I have one > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > with Ra+Ma in 12H in D9 and person has very bad mood regarding > > > > > > > relationships. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Saurav, > > > > > > > > Are you concluding that Mars and Ketu in 6H or 2H leads to > > > > > > physical > > > > > > > > harm to spouse, similar to what Sanjay P has mentioned? I > > asked > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > question because Sanjayji in his lecture mentions about this > > > > > > > > combination leading to harm to the native by the spouse. Hope > > we > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > get the clarification in due course. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *souravc108* > > > > > > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 08/14/2007 12:28 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please respond to > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > cc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject > > > > > > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh-ji, > > > > > > > > namaskar. 8th is maraka to > > > > > > the 7th > > > > > > > > and can kill spouse. 2nd is 8th from 7th and hence determines > > > > > > > > longevity of spouse as well. 12-th is absence or separation > > from > > > > > > > > spouse leading to temporary bachelorhood. Malefics in the 2nd > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > show how separation happens. Sani here can show nindaa > > (calumny). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= > > > > > > > > ========= ========= > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay P, > > > > > > > > > Does the harm come to native or spouse? Does the same result > > > > > > hold > > > > > > > > good for > > > > > > > > > Mars and Ketu in 2H of D9 too? > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sanjaychettiar@ ... > > > > > > > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > 08/14/2007 10:06 AM > > > > > > > > > Please respond to > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > cc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject > > > > > > > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > > > > Dear Nitish, > > > > > > > > > Mars and Ketu in 6th in general is very bad in Navamsa can > > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > > > harming/killing spouse. Are you of a violent type? Make sure > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Navamsa > > > > > > > > > lagna is correct first by checking out the trines and your > > > > > > nature. > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards > > > > > > > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/13/07, yeeahoo_99 nitish.arya@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > Does Mars+Ke combination in 6th house in navamsa in the > > > > > > following > > > > > > > > > chart indicate a dangerous marital relationship? Mars is in > > > > > > exchange > > > > > > > > > with AK Venus placed with Ra in 12th house, as well as lords > > > > > > the UL > > > > > > > > > in the rashi chart showing involvement of spouse. > > > > > > > > > Also, note that the Saturn+Jupiter are also placed together > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > navamsa ascendant, though Ju is lord of lagna in D-9. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 5, 1983 > > > > > > > > > Time: 4:15:00 > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > > > > > > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > nitish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, > > sans-serif;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, > > clean, sans-serif;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;} > > > #ygrp-text{ > > > font-family: Georgia; > > > } > > > #ygrp-text p{ > > > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > > > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > > > font-family: Arial; > > > clear:both;} > > > #ygrp-vitnav{ > > > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;} > > > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > > > padding:0 1px;} > > > #ygrp-actbar{ > > > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text- > > align:right; } > > > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > > > float:left;white- space:nowrap; } > > > .bld{font-weight: bold;} > > > #ygrp-grft{ > > > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;} > > > #ygrp-ft{ > > > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666; > > > padding:5px 0; > > > } > > > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > > > padding-bottom: 10px;} > > > > > > #ygrp-vital{ > > > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} > > > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > > > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; color:#333; text- > > transform:uppercase ;} > > > #ygrp-vital ul{ > > > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;} > > > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > > > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee; > > > } > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > > > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text- > > align:right; padding-right: .5em;} > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > > > font-weight: bold;} > > > #ygrp-vital a { > > > text-decoration: none;} > > > > > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > > > text-decoration: underline; } > > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > > > color:#999;font- size:77%; } > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > > > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > > > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; } > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > > > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > > > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor #nc { > > > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > > > padding:8px 0;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > > > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font- > > size:100%;line- height:122% ;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > > > text-decoration: none;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > > > text-decoration: underline; } > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > > > margin:0;} > > > o {font-size:0; } > > > .MsoNormal { > > > margin:0 0 0 0;} > > > #ygrp-text tt{ > > > font-size:120% ;} > > > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;} > > > .replbq {margin:4;} > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > ____________ ___ > > > Luggage? 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Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Sundeep, Jupiter DK doesnt say anything about spouse as its part of Your atma. CK's shows spiritual level and they show context and issues which arise coloured by lordship and naisargik characteristics of grahas. If you want to be master with CK's please study examples where Sanjayji analyzes them - Dwadasamsa lecture, Jaimini Upadesa examples, COVA examples, Mahavidya Paper etc. If Rahu is DK then there must be something there coming from Rahu, this can be omited by You or it just will happen, generally Sanjayji says this gives sudden marriage, Ive heard also that Ma PK gives often abortions/miscarriage, AmK with Jupiter gives office job, with Surya - buisness etc. DK shows desires from last birth THEN spouse/relationships THEN wealth. Aspect of DK on Lagna, or Ju on AL can make one wealthy. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl vedicastrostudent napisał(a): Dear Rafalji, You explain your points with very few words! Just so I know I understand you, am I correct in assuming that you are saying that DK does NOT NECESSARILY show the attitude of the person, but the context, perhaps because Charakarakas are NOT at the mind level, but at the Atma level, so their effects can show up in deeper ways e.g. influencing the environment/ context in which the mind functions. In other words, Scott Peterson's debilitated vargottama Rahu DK is not enough to conclusively say that his attitude must have been haywire, only that Rahu-ness must have surely manifested somewhere in a relationship context. Similarly, Coretta Scott King's Devalokamsa Jupiter DK is not sufficient to conclude that MLK must have been a good man (there would have to be (and probably are) other indications for that). The DK only shows the overall context, and does not conclusively imply OR rule out specific characteristics of the spouse. Do I understand you correctly? So in the cases in which I earlier said I had seen Rahu DK, but nothing sudden nor unconventional about the marriage, the Rahu-ness perhaps manifested elsewhere in the relationship context.. Thanks, Sundeep sohamsa@ ..com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Michael, > > I think that You know this : > Rahu DK doesnt neccesarily show person is cheater in marriage, it only > shows context/issue in which relationship arise. For further > investigation rest of karakas and vargas must be seen. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > Michal Dziwulski napisa?(a): > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > Dear Sundeep, > > > > If DK was Atma of the spouse then what would AmK be? Atma of my > > boss? GK? Do all my relatives have the same Atma? No. The > > principle must apply across the board. The carakarakas in the chart > > are all you. > > > > Extend this another way. The rajyoga that occurs with AK and PK - it > > is not a guarantee that your children will support you, but rather > > that you will have supporters. And why will people support you? > > Because you are worthy of that support because of this combiantion in > > your chart. > > > > In the case of Peterson that terrible Rahu happened to be DK, so that > > is what he does to the spouse. His soul level functioning with regard > > to his spouse is totally haywire. > > > > Hope this helps understanding. > > > > Respectfully, > > Michal > > > > > > vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@ ...> > > sohamsa@ ..com > > Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:32:00 PM > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > Dear Michal, > > Thanks for your input. I think I read in COVA that Rahu as DK means > > sudden unconventional marriages, although I havent really seen that > > happen. Even in this case, doesnt really look like there was any > > trouble for the man. Does Rahu as DK represent the Atma of the > > spouse, because her experience definitely must have been of shock > > and betrayal (and is consistent with debilitated, vargottama Rahu as > > you pointed out). > > > > I wonder if this is true - that when Rahu is DK, does the spouse get > > at least some amount of shock and betrayal? What if it is in Upapada > > (would that be like Atmakaraka of the spouse in spouse's own Lagna)? > > > > Just some thoughts, > > > > Sundeep > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > Dear Sundeep, > > > > > > There are other combinations also. > > > > > > A vargottama debilitated Rahu in Jupiter's sign spells danger for > > human life. Rahu is the DK and is conjoined Venus in Navamsa. His > > wife's body was found beheaded. The whole incident occurred in > > Vimshottari of Rahu Venus. > > > > > > Another interesting point is that Sun is in MKS, or should I say > > Venus because of parivartana? To see where the effects of MKS will > > occur we take the lordships of the planet. Here Venus is the 7th > > lord. So death like suffering coming to spouse. Venus is aspected > > by the combination of Jupiter and Rahu from the 2nd house of family > > and wealth. A major motive could have been finances and the > > responsibilities of his growing family (as his wife was pregnant). > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@ ...> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com> > > > Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:38:53 AM > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji and others, > > > > > > > > > > > > Does this change with first spouse, second spouse etc? I have the > > > > > > birthtime of a well known convicted wife killer: Scott Peterson - > > > > > > Oct 24, 1972, San Diego, CA, USA, 9:36am. Web should have lots > > more > > > > > > info, the killing was very brutal and got lots of attention. He > > > > > > doesnt seem to have this combination, but something similar must > > > > > > show up in such a violent crime, no? > > > > > > > > > > > > Please analyze and show us how this works. With the above time, > > 8th > > > > > > and 12th house in D-9 are unoccupied and unaspected (by Rasi > > > > > > dristi). Interestingly enough, he had no history of a "bad > > attitude" > > > > > > towards relationships. At least until one month AFTER wife's > > > > > > disappearance, everyone including wife's parents stood by him, > > until > > > > > > evidence finally led to his undoing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rameshji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I ve already wrote about this reversal Sanjayji taught in > > > > > > Serbija. > > > > > > > 2nd and 6th bhava when occupied by Ma+Ke gives pain/death to > > > > > > native. 8th > > > > > > > and 12th to spouse (so native is murderer/attacker) .. I have one > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > with Ra+Ma in 12H in D9 and person has very bad mood regarding > > > > > > > relationships. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Saurav, > > > > > > > > Are you concluding that Mars and Ketu in 6H or 2H leads to > > > > > > physical > > > > > > > > harm to spouse, similar to what Sanjay P has mentioned? I > > asked > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > question because Sanjayji in his lecture mentions about this > > > > > > > > combination leading to harm to the native by the spouse. Hope > > we > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > get the clarification in due course. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *souravc108* > > > > > > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 08/14/2007 12:28 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please respond to > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > cc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject > > > > > > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh-ji, > > > > > > > > namaskar. 8th is maraka to > > > > > > the 7th > > > > > > > > and can kill spouse. 2nd is 8th from 7th and hence determines > > > > > > > > longevity of spouse as well. 12-th is absence or separation > > from > > > > > > > > spouse leading to temporary bachelorhood. Malefics in the 2nd > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > show how separation happens. Sani here can show nindaa > > (calumny). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= > > > > > > > > ========= ========= > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay P, > > > > > > > > > Does the harm come to native or spouse? Does the same result > > > > > > hold > > > > > > > > good for > > > > > > > > > Mars and Ketu in 2H of D9 too? > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sanjaychettiar@ ... > > > > > > > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > 08/14/2007 10:06 AM > > > > > > > > > Please respond to > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > cc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject > > > > > > > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > > > > Dear Nitish, > > > > > > > > > Mars and Ketu in 6th in general is very bad in Navamsa can > > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > > > harming/killing spouse. Are you of a violent type? Make sure > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Navamsa > > > > > > > > > lagna is correct first by checking out the trines and your > > > > > > nature. > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards > > > > > > > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/13/07, yeeahoo_99 nitish.arya@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > Does Mars+Ke combination in 6th house in navamsa in the > > > > > > following > > > > > > > > > chart indicate a dangerous marital relationship? Mars is in > > > > > > exchange > > > > > > > > > with AK Venus placed with Ra in 12th house, as well as lords > > > > > > the UL > > > > > > > > > in the rashi chart showing involvement of spouse. > > > > > > > > > Also, note that the Saturn+Jupiter are also placed together > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > navamsa ascendant, though Ju is lord of lagna in D-9. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 5, 1983 > > > > > > > > > Time: 4:15:00 > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00" > > > > > > > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > nitish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, > > sans-serif;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, > > clean, sans-serif;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;} > > > #ygrp-text{ > > > font-family: Georgia; > > > } > > > #ygrp-text p{ > > > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > > > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > > > font-family: Arial; > > > clear:both;} > > > #ygrp-vitnav{ > > > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;} > > > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > > > padding:0 1px;} > > > #ygrp-actbar{ > > > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text- > > align:right; } > > > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > > > float:left;white- space:nowrap; } > > > .bld{font-weight: bold;} > > > #ygrp-grft{ > > > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;} > > > #ygrp-ft{ > > > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666; > > > padding:5px 0; > > > } > > > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > > > padding-bottom: 10px;} > > > > > > #ygrp-vital{ > > > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} > > > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > > > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; color:#333; text- > > transform:uppercase ;} > > > #ygrp-vital ul{ > > > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;} > > > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > > > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee; > > > } > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > > > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text- > > align:right; padding-right: .5em;} > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > > > font-weight: bold;} > > > #ygrp-vital a { > > > text-decoration: none;} > > > > > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > > > text-decoration: underline; } > > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > > > color:#999;font- size:77%; } > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > > > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > > > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; } > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > > > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > > > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor #nc { > > > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > > > padding:8px 0;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > > > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font- > > size:100%;line- height:122% ;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > > > text-decoration: none;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > > > text-decoration: underline; } > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > > > margin:0;} > > > o {font-size:0; } > > > .MsoNormal { > > > margin:0 0 0 0;} > > > #ygrp-text tt{ > > > font-size:120% ;} > > > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;} > > > .replbq {margin:4;} > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > ____________ ___ > > > Luggage? 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Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Rafal,Not quite sure why you addressed this point. I never mentioned cheating in marriage, nor any connection of cheating with Rahu DK.Also...I would'nt limit Darakaraka to:only shows context/issue in which relationship arise Darakaraka does not just show how relationships are formed but has a vital role to play throughout any relationship. Otherwise Peterson would have beheaded his wife when he met her.Respectfully,MichalRafal Gendarz <starsuponmesohamsa Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:36:09 PMRe: Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 hraum namah adityaya Dear Michael, I think that You know this : Rahu DK doesnt neccesarily show person is cheater in marriage, it only shows context/issue in which relationship arise. For further investigation rest of karakas and vargas must be seen. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com Michal Dziwulski napisa³(a): Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Sundeep, If DK was Atma of the spouse then what would AmK be? Atma of my boss? GK? Do all my relatives have the same Atma? No. The principle must apply across the board. The carakarakas in the chart are all you. Extend this another way. The rajyoga that occurs with AK and PK - it is not a guarantee that your children will support you, but rather that you will have supporters. And why will people support you? Because you are worthy of that support because of this combiantion in your chart. In the case of Peterson that terrible Rahu happened to be DK, so that is what he does to the spouse. His soul level functioning with regard to his spouse is totally haywire. Hope this helps understanding. Respectfully, Michal ----- Original Message ---- vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@ > sohamsa@ .com Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:32:00 PM Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 Dear Michal, Thanks for your input. I think I read in COVA that Rahu as DK means sudden unconventional marriages, although I havent really seen that happen. Even in this case, doesnt really look like there was any trouble for the man. Does Rahu as DK represent the Atma of the spouse, because her experience definitely must have been of shock and betrayal (and is consistent with debilitated, vargottama Rahu as you pointed out). I wonder if this is true - that when Rahu is DK, does the spouse get at least some amount of shock and betrayal? What if it is in Upapada (would that be like Atmakaraka of the spouse in spouse's own Lagna)? Just some thoughts, Sundeep sohamsa@ .com, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@ ...> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > Dear Sundeep, > > There are other combinations also. > > A vargottama debilitated Rahu in Jupiter's sign spells danger for human life. Rahu is the DK and is conjoined Venus in Navamsa. His wife's body was found beheaded. The whole incident occurred in Vimshottari of Rahu Venus. > > Another interesting point is that Sun is in MKS, or should I say Venus because of parivartana? To see where the effects of MKS will occur we take the lordships of the planet. Here Venus is the 7th lord. So death like suffering coming to spouse. Venus is aspected by the combination of Jupiter and Rahu from the 2nd house of family and wealth. A major motive could have been finances and the responsibilities of his growing family (as his wife was pregnant). > > Respectfully, > Michal > > > vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@ ...> > sohamsa@ .com > Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:38:53 AM > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji and others, > > > > Does this change with first spouse, second spouse etc? I have the > > birthtime of a well known convicted wife killer: Scott Peterson - > > Oct 24, 1972, San Diego, CA, USA, 9:36am. Web should have lots more > > info, the killing was very brutal and got lots of attention. He > > doesnt seem to have this combination, but something similar must > > show up in such a violent crime, no? > > > > Please analyze and show us how this works. With the above time, 8th > > and 12th house in D-9 are unoccupied and unaspected (by Rasi > > dristi). Interestingly enough, he had no history of a "bad attitude" > > towards relationships. At least until one month AFTER wife's > > disappearance, everyone including wife's parents stood by him, until > > evidence finally led to his undoing. > > > > Thanks > > > > Sundeep > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ....> > > wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Rameshji, > > > > > > Yes, I ve already wrote about this reversal Sanjayji taught in > > Serbija. > > > 2nd and 6th bhava when occupied by Ma+Ke gives pain/death to > > native. 8th > > > and 12th to spouse (so native is murderer/attacker) . I have one > > chart > > > with Ra+Ma in 12H in D9 and person has very bad mood regarding > > > relationships. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl > > > > > > Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > Dear Saurav, > > > > Are you concluding that Mars and Ketu in 6H or 2H leads to > > physical > > > > harm to spouse, similar to what Sanjay P has mentioned? I asked > > the > > > > question because Sanjayji in his lecture mentions about this > > > > combination leading to harm to the native by the spouse. Hope we > > will > > > > get the clarification in due course. > > > > regards > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *souravc108* > > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > 08/14/2007 12:28 PM > > > > > > > > Please respond to > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > cc > > > > > > > > Subject > > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||* > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh-ji, > > > > namaskar. 8th is maraka to > > the 7th > > > > and can kill spouse. 2nd is 8th from 7th and hence determines > > > > longevity of spouse as well. 12-th is absence or separation from > > > > spouse leading to temporary bachelorhood. Malefics in the 2nd > > house > > > > show how separation happens. Sani here can show nindaa (calumny). > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= > > > > ========= ========= > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay P, > > > > > Does the harm come to native or spouse? Does the same result > > hold > > > > good for > > > > > Mars and Ketu in 2H of D9 too? > > > > > regards > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sanjaychettiar@ ... > > > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > > > 08/14/2007 10:06 AM > > > > > Please respond to > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > cc > > > > > > > > > > Subject > > > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > Dear Nitish, > > > > > Mars and Ketu in 6th in general is very bad in Navamsa can > > indicate > > > > > harming/killing spouse. Are you of a violent type? Make sure > > the > > > > Navamsa > > > > > lagna is correct first by checking out the trines and your > > nature. > > > > > Warm Regards > > > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/13/07, yeeahoo_99 nitish.arya@ ... wrote: > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > Does Mars+Ke combination in 6th house in navamsa in the > > following > > > > > chart indicate a dangerous marital relationship? Mars is in > > exchange > > > > > with AK Venus placed with Ra in 12th house, as well as lords > > the UL > > > > > in the rashi chart showing involvement of spouse. > > > > > Also, note that the Saturn+Jupiter are also placed together in > > the > > > > > navamsa ascendant, though Ju is lord of lagna in D-9. > > > > > > > > > > April 5, 1983 > > > > > Time: 4:15:00 > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00" > > > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > nitish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;} > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;} > #ygrp-text{ > font-family: Georgia; > } > #ygrp-text p{ > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > font-family: Arial; > clear:both;} > #ygrp-vitnav{ > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;} > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > padding:0 1px;} > #ygrp-actbar{ > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text- align:right; } > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > float:left;white- space:nowrap; } > .bld{font-weight: bold;} > #ygrp-grft{ > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;} > #ygrp-ft{ > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666; > padding:5px 0; > } > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > padding-bottom: 10px;} > > #ygrp-vital{ > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; color:#333; text- transform:uppercase ;} > #ygrp-vital ul{ > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;} > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee; > } > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text- align:right; padding-right: .5em;} > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > font-weight: bold;} > #ygrp-vital a { > text-decoration: none;} > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > text-decoration: underline; } > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > color:#999;font- size:77%; } > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; } > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;} > #ygrp-sponsor #nc { > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > padding:8px 0;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font- size:100%;line- height:122% ;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > text-decoration: none;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > text-decoration: underline; } > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > margin:0;} > o {font-size:0; } > .MsoNormal { > margin:0 0 0 0;} > #ygrp-text tt{ > font-size:120% ;} > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;} > .replbq {margin:4;} > --> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ ____________ ___ > Luggage? 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Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Sundeep,If I may comment...Just that Rahu is DK is not the end of the analysis. We must see how this Rahu is placed in the natal chart.Darakaraka is more general, rather than specific charachteristics of the spouse (which are seen from UL, Navamsa etc.). Ultimately, that which we are looking outside of ourselves in the form of spouse, girlfriend, boyfriend is actually within us and it is the DK. We are Purusha and Prakritti, the muladhara meeting the crown chakra. But we look for this DK outside, because of our conditioned state.BTW - Interesting that you can equate beheading your wife and killing your unborn son and then subscribing to pornography two days later as well as having illicet relationships to "some rahu-ness manifesting in relationship context". Sorry to be so vivid but this is an extreme case we are discussing, and I believe it warrants more realism. Afterall this is a person having affected many lives terribly and not just the chart of one of our buddies.Respectfully,Michalvedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudentsohamsa Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 8:07:01 AM Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 Dear Rafalji, You explain your points with very few words! Just so I know I understand you, am I correct in assuming that you are saying that DK does NOT NECESSARILY show the attitude of the person, but the context, perhaps because Charakarakas are NOT at the mind level, but at the Atma level, so their effects can show up in deeper ways e.g. influencing the environment/ context in which the mind functions. In other words, Scott Peterson's debilitated vargottama Rahu DK is not enough to conclusively say that his attitude must have been haywire, only that Rahu-ness must have surely manifested somewhere in a relationship context. Similarly, Coretta Scott King's Devalokamsa Jupiter DK is not sufficient to conclude that MLK must have been a good man (there would have to be (and probably are) other indications for that). The DK only shows the overall context, and does not conclusively imply OR rule out specific characteristics of the spouse. Do I understand you correctly? So in the cases in which I earlier said I had seen Rahu DK, but nothing sudden nor unconventional about the marriage, the Rahu-ness perhaps manifested elsewhere in the relationship context.. Thanks, Sundeep sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Michael, > > I think that You know this : > Rahu DK doesnt neccesarily show person is cheater in marriage, it only > shows context/issue in which relationship arise. For further > investigation rest of karakas and vargas must be seen. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > Michal Dziwulski napisa?(a): > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > Dear Sundeep, > > > > If DK was Atma of the spouse then what would AmK be? Atma of my > > boss? GK? Do all my relatives have the same Atma? No. The > > principle must apply across the board. The carakarakas in the chart > > are all you. > > > > Extend this another way. The rajyoga that occurs with AK and PK - it > > is not a guarantee that your children will support you, but rather > > that you will have supporters. And why will people support you? > > Because you are worthy of that support because of this combiantion in > > your chart. > > > > In the case of Peterson that terrible Rahu happened to be DK, so that > > is what he does to the spouse. His soul level functioning with regard > > to his spouse is totally haywire. > > > > Hope this helps understanding. > > > > Respectfully, > > Michal > > > > > > vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@ ...> > > sohamsa@ .com > > Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:32:00 PM > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > Dear Michal, > > Thanks for your input. I think I read in COVA that Rahu as DK means > > sudden unconventional marriages, although I havent really seen that > > happen. Even in this case, doesnt really look like there was any > > trouble for the man. Does Rahu as DK represent the Atma of the > > spouse, because her experience definitely must have been of shock > > and betrayal (and is consistent with debilitated, vargottama Rahu as > > you pointed out). > > > > I wonder if this is true - that when Rahu is DK, does the spouse get > > at least some amount of shock and betrayal? What if it is in Upapada > > (would that be like Atmakaraka of the spouse in spouse's own Lagna)? > > > > Just some thoughts, > > > > Sundeep > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > Dear Sundeep, > > > > > > There are other combinations also. > > > > > > A vargottama debilitated Rahu in Jupiter's sign spells danger for > > human life. Rahu is the DK and is conjoined Venus in Navamsa. His > > wife's body was found beheaded. The whole incident occurred in > > Vimshottari of Rahu Venus. > > > > > > Another interesting point is that Sun is in MKS, or should I say > > Venus because of parivartana? To see where the effects of MKS will > > occur we take the lordships of the planet. Here Venus is the 7th > > lord. So death like suffering coming to spouse. Venus is aspected > > by the combination of Jupiter and Rahu from the 2nd house of family > > and wealth. A major motive could have been finances and the > > responsibilities of his growing family (as his wife was pregnant). > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@ ...> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com> > > > Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:38:53 AM > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji and others, > > > > > > > > > > > > Does this change with first spouse, second spouse etc? I have the > > > > > > birthtime of a well known convicted wife killer: Scott Peterson - > > > > > > Oct 24, 1972, San Diego, CA, USA, 9:36am. Web should have lots > > more > > > > > > info, the killing was very brutal and got lots of attention. He > > > > > > doesnt seem to have this combination, but something similar must > > > > > > show up in such a violent crime, no? > > > > > > > > > > > > Please analyze and show us how this works. With the above time, > > 8th > > > > > > and 12th house in D-9 are unoccupied and unaspected (by Rasi > > > > > > dristi). Interestingly enough, he had no history of a "bad > > attitude" > > > > > > towards relationships. At least until one month AFTER wife's > > > > > > disappearance, everyone including wife's parents stood by him, > > until > > > > > > evidence finally led to his undoing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rameshji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I ve already wrote about this reversal Sanjayji taught in > > > > > > Serbija. > > > > > > > 2nd and 6th bhava when occupied by Ma+Ke gives pain/death to > > > > > > native. 8th > > > > > > > and 12th to spouse (so native is murderer/attacker) . I have one > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > with Ra+Ma in 12H in D9 and person has very bad mood regarding > > > > > > > relationships. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Saurav, > > > > > > > > Are you concluding that Mars and Ketu in 6H or 2H leads to > > > > > > physical > > > > > > > > harm to spouse, similar to what Sanjay P has mentioned? I > > asked > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > question because Sanjayji in his lecture mentions about this > > > > > > > > combination leading to harm to the native by the spouse. Hope > > we > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > get the clarification in due course. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *souravc108* > > > > > > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 08/14/2007 12:28 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please respond to > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > cc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject > > > > > > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh-ji, > > > > > > > > namaskar. 8th is maraka to > > > > > > the 7th > > > > > > > > and can kill spouse. 2nd is 8th from 7th and hence determines > > > > > > > > longevity of spouse as well. 12-th is absence or separation > > from > > > > > > > > spouse leading to temporary bachelorhood. Malefics in the 2nd > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > show how separation happens. Sani here can show nindaa > > (calumny). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= > > > > > > > > ========= ========= > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay P, > > > > > > > > > Does the harm come to native or spouse? Does the same result > > > > > > hold > > > > > > > > good for > > > > > > > > > Mars and Ketu in 2H of D9 too? > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sanjaychettiar@ ... > > > > > > > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > 08/14/2007 10:06 AM > > > > > > > > > Please respond to > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > cc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject > > > > > > > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > > > > Dear Nitish, > > > > > > > > > Mars and Ketu in 6th in general is very bad in Navamsa can > > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > > > harming/killing spouse. Are you of a violent type? Make sure > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Navamsa > > > > > > > > > lagna is correct first by checking out the trines and your > > > > > > nature. > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards > > > > > > > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/13/07, yeeahoo_99 nitish.arya@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > Does Mars+Ke combination in 6th house in navamsa in the > > > > > > following > > > > > > > > > chart indicate a dangerous marital relationship? Mars is in > > > > > > exchange > > > > > > > > > with AK Venus placed with Ra in 12th house, as well as lords > > > > > > the UL > > > > > > > > > in the rashi chart showing involvement of spouse. > > > > > > > > > Also, note that the Saturn+Jupiter are also placed together > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > navamsa ascendant, though Ju is lord of lagna in D-9. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 5, 1983 > > > > > > > > > Time: 4:15:00 > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00" > > > > > > > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > nitish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > > > > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, > > sans-serif;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, > > clean, sans-serif;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > > > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;} > > > #ygrp-text{ > > > font-family: Georgia; > > > } > > > #ygrp-text p{ > > > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > > > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > > > font-family: Arial; > > > clear:both;} > > > #ygrp-vitnav{ > > > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;} > > > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > > > padding:0 1px;} > > > #ygrp-actbar{ > > > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text- > > align:right; } > > > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > > > float:left;white- space:nowrap; } > > > .bld{font-weight: bold;} > > > #ygrp-grft{ > > > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;} > > > #ygrp-ft{ > > > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666; > > > padding:5px 0; > > > } > > > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > > > padding-bottom: 10px;} > > > > > > #ygrp-vital{ > > > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} > > > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > > > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; color:#333; text- > > transform:uppercase ;} > > > #ygrp-vital ul{ > > > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;} > > > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > > > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee; > > > } > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > > > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text- > > align:right; padding-right: .5em;} > > > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > > > font-weight: bold;} > > > #ygrp-vital a { > > > text-decoration: none;} > > > > > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > > > text-decoration: underline; } > > > > > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > > > color:#999;font- size:77%; } > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > > > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > > > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; } > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > > > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > > > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor #nc { > > > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > > > padding:8px 0;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > > > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font- > > size:100%;line- height:122% ;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > > > text-decoration: none;} > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > > > text-decoration: underline; } > > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > > > margin:0;} > > > o {font-size:0; } > > > .MsoNormal { > > > margin:0 0 0 0;} > > > #ygrp-text tt{ > > > font-size:120% ;} > > > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;} > > > .replbq {margin:4;} > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > ____________ ___ > > > Luggage? 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Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Michael, About that chart: Previously I took Virgo Lagna, and then I corrected it to Kumbha. About DK: DK is microscopic view of soul on matters of 1) past life desires 2) relationship 3) wealth (some say wealth of Atma is knowledge). My definition about issue and context comes from our Gurudev (like everything which I try to repeat here on those forums) and it helps to mix naisargika, sthira, arudhas. If You work on many levels of Jyotish you have to build some shortcuts in your mind to not get lost. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl Michal Dziwulski napisa³(a): Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Rafal, Not quite sure why you addressed this point. I never mentioned cheating in marriage, nor any connection of cheating with Rahu DK. Also... I would'nt limit Darakaraka to: only shows context/issue in which relationship arise Darakaraka does not just show how relationships are formed but has a vital role to play throughout any relationship. Otherwise Peterson would have beheaded his wife when he met her. Respectfully, Michal ----- Original Message ---- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> sohamsa Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:36:09 PM Re: Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 hraum namah adityaya Dear Michael, I think that You know this : Rahu DK doesnt neccesarily show person is cheater in marriage, it only shows context/issue in which relationship arise. For further investigation rest of karakas and vargas must be seen. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com Michal Dziwulski napisa³(a): Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Sundeep, If DK was Atma of the spouse then what would AmK be? Atma of my boss? GK? Do all my relatives have the same Atma? No. The principle must apply across the board. The carakarakas in the chart are all you. Extend this another way. The rajyoga that occurs with AK and PK - it is not a guarantee that your children will support you, but rather that you will have supporters. And why will people support you? Because you are worthy of that support because of this combiantion in your chart. In the case of Peterson that terrible Rahu happened to be DK, so that is what he does to the spouse. His soul level functioning with regard to his spouse is totally haywire. Hope this helps understanding. Respectfully, Michal ----- Original Message ---- vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@ > sohamsa@ .com Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:32:00 PM Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 Dear Michal, Thanks for your input. I think I read in COVA that Rahu as DK means sudden unconventional marriages, although I havent really seen that happen. Even in this case, doesnt really look like there was any trouble for the man. Does Rahu as DK represent the Atma of the spouse, because her experience definitely must have been of shock and betrayal (and is consistent with debilitated, vargottama Rahu as you pointed out). I wonder if this is true - that when Rahu is DK, does the spouse get at least some amount of shock and betrayal? What if it is in Upapada (would that be like Atmakaraka of the spouse in spouse's own Lagna)? Just some thoughts, Sundeep sohamsa@ .com, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@ ...> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > Dear Sundeep, > > There are other combinations also. > > A vargottama debilitated Rahu in Jupiter's sign spells danger for human life. Rahu is the DK and is conjoined Venus in Navamsa. His wife's body was found beheaded. The whole incident occurred in Vimshottari of Rahu Venus. > > Another interesting point is that Sun is in MKS, or should I say Venus because of parivartana? To see where the effects of MKS will occur we take the lordships of the planet. Here Venus is the 7th lord. So death like suffering coming to spouse. Venus is aspected by the combination of Jupiter and Rahu from the 2nd house of family and wealth. A major motive could have been finances and the responsibilities of his growing family (as his wife was pregnant). > > Respectfully, > Michal > > > vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@ ...> > sohamsa@ .com > Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:38:53 AM > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji and others, > > > > Does this change with first spouse, second spouse etc? I have the > > birthtime of a well known convicted wife killer: Scott Peterson - > > Oct 24, 1972, San Diego, CA, USA, 9:36am. Web should have lots more > > info, the killing was very brutal and got lots of attention. He > > doesnt seem to have this combination, but something similar must > > show up in such a violent crime, no? > > > > Please analyze and show us how this works. With the above time, 8th > > and 12th house in D-9 are unoccupied and unaspected (by Rasi > > dristi). Interestingly enough, he had no history of a "bad attitude" > > towards relationships. At least until one month AFTER wife's > > disappearance, everyone including wife's parents stood by him, until > > evidence finally led to his undoing. > > > > Thanks > > > > Sundeep > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ....> > > wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Rameshji, > > > > > > Yes, I ve already wrote about this reversal Sanjayji taught in > > Serbija. > > > 2nd and 6th bhava when occupied by Ma+Ke gives pain/death to > > native. 8th > > > and 12th to spouse (so native is murderer/attacker) . I have one > > chart > > > with Ra+Ma in 12H in D9 and person has very bad mood regarding > > > relationships. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl > > > > > > Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > Dear Saurav, > > > > Are you concluding that Mars and Ketu in 6H or 2H leads to > > physical > > > > harm to spouse, similar to what Sanjay P has mentioned? I asked > > the > > > > question because Sanjayji in his lecture mentions about this > > > > combination leading to harm to the native by the spouse. Hope we > > will > > > > get the clarification in due course. > > > > regards > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *souravc108* > > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > 08/14/2007 12:28 PM > > > > > > > > Please respond to > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > cc > > > > > > > > Subject > > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||* > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh-ji, > > > > namaskar. 8th is maraka to > > the 7th > > > > and can kill spouse. 2nd is 8th from 7th and hence determines > > > > longevity of spouse as well. 12-th is absence or separation from > > > > spouse leading to temporary bachelorhood. Malefics in the 2nd > > house > > > > show how separation happens. Sani here can show nindaa (calumny). > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= > > > > ========= ========= > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay P, > > > > > Does the harm come to native or spouse? Does the same result > > hold > > > > good for > > > > > Mars and Ketu in 2H of D9 too? > > > > > regards > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sanjaychettiar@ ... > > > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > > > > > 08/14/2007 10:06 AM > > > > > Please respond to > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > cc > > > > > > > > > > Subject > > > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > Dear Nitish, > > > > > Mars and Ketu in 6th in general is very bad in Navamsa can > > indicate > > > > > harming/killing spouse. Are you of a violent type? Make sure > > the > > > > Navamsa > > > > > lagna is correct first by checking out the trines and your > > nature. > > > > > Warm Regards > > > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/13/07, yeeahoo_99 nitish.arya@ ... wrote: > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > Does Mars+Ke combination in 6th house in navamsa in the > > following > > > > > chart indicate a dangerous marital relationship? Mars is in > > exchange > > > > > with AK Venus placed with Ra in 12th house, as well as lords > > the UL > > > > > in the rashi chart showing involvement of spouse. > > > > > Also, note that the Saturn+Jupiter are also placed together in > > the > > > > > navamsa ascendant, though Ju is lord of lagna in D-9. > > > > > > > > > > April 5, 1983 > > > > > Time: 4:15:00 > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00" > > > > > New Delhi, India > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > nitish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;} > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;} > #ygrp-text{ > font-family: Georgia; > } > #ygrp-text p{ > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > font-family: Arial; > clear:both;} > #ygrp-vitnav{ > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;} > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > padding:0 1px;} > #ygrp-actbar{ > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text- align:right; } > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > float:left;white- space:nowrap; } > .bld{font-weight: bold;} > #ygrp-grft{ > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;} > #ygrp-ft{ > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666; > padding:5px 0; > } > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > padding-bottom: 10px;} > > #ygrp-vital{ > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; color:#333; text- transform:uppercase ;} > #ygrp-vital ul{ > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;} > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee; > } > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text- align:right; padding-right: .5em;} > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > font-weight: bold;} > #ygrp-vital a { > text-decoration: none;} > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > text-decoration: underline; } > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > color:#999;font- size:77%; } > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; } > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;} > #ygrp-sponsor #nc { > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > padding:8px 0;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font- size:100%;line- height:122% ;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > text-decoration: none;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > text-decoration: underline; } > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > margin:0;} > o {font-size:0; } > .MsoNormal { > margin:0 0 0 0;} > #ygrp-text tt{ > font-size:120% ;} > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;} > .replbq {margin:4;} > --> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ ____________ ___ > Luggage? 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Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Dear Rafalji, Unfortunately I think Michal's question is still unanswered, at least in my mind. You said " only shows context/issue in which relationship arise " I think Michal's question was does DK specifically only deal with the BEGINNING of relationship or not. Your answer simply adds more (past desires, wealth) without answering this specific doubt/disagreement. Thanks Sundeep sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Michael, > > About that chart: Previously I took Virgo Lagna, and then I corrected it > to Kumbha. > > About DK: DK is microscopic view of soul on matters of 1) past life > desires 2) relationship 3) wealth (some say wealth of Atma is > knowledge). My definition about issue and context comes from our Gurudev > (like everything which I try to repeat here on those forums) and it > helps to mix naisargika, sthira, arudhas. If You work on many levels of > Jyotish you have to build some shortcuts in your mind to not get lost. > > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl > > > Michal Dziwulski napisa³(a): > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > Not quite sure why you addressed this point. I never mentioned > > cheating in marriage, nor any connection of cheating with Rahu DK. > > > > Also... > > I would'nt limit Darakaraka to: > > > > only shows context/issue in which relationship arise > > > > Darakaraka does not just show how relationships are formed but has a > > vital role to play throughout any relationship. Otherwise Peterson > > would have beheaded his wife when he met her. > > > > Respectfully, > > Michal > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme > > sohamsa > > Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:36:09 PM > > Re: Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > Dear Michael, > > > > I think that You know this : > > Rahu DK doesnt neccesarily show person is cheater in marriage, it only > > shows context/issue in which relationship arise. For further > > investigation rest of karakas and vargas must be seen. > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > Michal Dziwulski napisa³(a): > >> Hare Rama Krsna || > >> > >> Dear Sundeep, > >> > >> If DK was Atma of the spouse then what would AmK be? Atma of my > >> boss? GK? Do all my relatives have the same Atma? No. The > >> principle must apply across the board. The carakarakas in the chart > >> are all you. > >> > >> Extend this another way. The rajyoga that occurs with AK and PK - it > >> is not a guarantee that your children will support you, but rather > >> that you will have supporters. And why will people support you? > >> Because you are worthy of that support because of this combiantion in > >> your chart. > >> > >> In the case of Peterson that terrible Rahu happened to be DK, so that > >> is what he does to the spouse. His soul level functioning with > >> regard to his spouse is totally haywire. > >> > >> Hope this helps understanding. > >> > >> Respectfully, > >> Michal > >> > >> > >> vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@ > > >> sohamsa@ .com > >> Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:32:00 PM > >> Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > >> > >> Dear Michal, > >> Thanks for your input. I think I read in COVA that Rahu as DK means > >> sudden unconventional marriages, although I havent really seen that > >> happen. Even in this case, doesnt really look like there was any > >> trouble for the man. Does Rahu as DK represent the Atma of the > >> spouse, because her experience definitely must have been of shock > >> and betrayal (and is consistent with debilitated, vargottama Rahu as > >> you pointed out). > >> > >> I wonder if this is true - that when Rahu is DK, does the spouse get > >> at least some amount of shock and betrayal? What if it is in Upapada > >> (would that be like Atmakaraka of the spouse in spouse's own Lagna)? > >> > >> Just some thoughts, > >> > >> Sundeep > >> > >> sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40>, > >> Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@ ...> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > Hare Rama Krsna || > >> > > >> > Dear Sundeep, > >> > > >> > There are other combinations also. > >> > > >> > A vargottama debilitated Rahu in Jupiter's sign spells danger for > >> human life. Rahu is the DK and is conjoined Venus in Navamsa. His > >> wife's body was found beheaded. The whole incident occurred in > >> Vimshottari of Rahu Venus. > >> > > >> > Another interesting point is that Sun is in MKS, or should I say > >> Venus because of parivartana? To see where the effects of MKS will > >> occur we take the lordships of the planet. Here Venus is the 7th > >> lord. So death like suffering coming to spouse. Venus is aspected > >> by the combination of Jupiter and Rahu from the 2nd house of family > >> and wealth. A major motive could have been finances and the > >> responsibilities of his growing family (as his wife was pregnant). > >> > > >> > Respectfully, > >> > Michal > >> > > >> > > >> > vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@ ...> > >> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40> > >> > Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:38:53 AM > >> > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Dear Rafalji and others, > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Does this change with first spouse, second spouse etc? I have the > >> > > >> > birthtime of a well known convicted wife killer: Scott Peterson - > >> > > >> > Oct 24, 1972, San Diego, CA, USA, 9:36am. Web should have lots > >> more > >> > > >> > info, the killing was very brutal and got lots of attention. He > >> > > >> > doesnt seem to have this combination, but something similar must > >> > > >> > show up in such a violent crime, no? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Please analyze and show us how this works. With the above time, > >> 8th > >> > > >> > and 12th house in D-9 are unoccupied and unaspected (by Rasi > >> > > >> > dristi). Interestingly enough, he had no history of a " bad > >> attitude " > >> > > >> > towards relationships. At least until one month AFTER wife's > >> > > >> > disappearance, everyone including wife's parents stood by him, > >> until > >> > > >> > evidence finally led to his undoing. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Sundeep > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > >> > > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > *hraum namah adityaya* > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > Dear Rameshji, > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > Yes, I ve already wrote about this reversal Sanjayji taught in > >> > > >> > Serbija. > >> > > >> > > 2nd and 6th bhava when occupied by Ma+Ke gives pain/death to > >> > > >> > native. 8th > >> > > >> > > and 12th to spouse (so native is murderer/attacker) . I have one > >> > > >> > chart > >> > > >> > > with Ra+Ma in 12H in D9 and person has very bad mood regarding > >> > > >> > > relationships. > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > Regards, > >> > > >> > > Rafal Gendarz > >> > > >> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > >> > > >> > > email: rafal@ > >> > > >> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > >> > > >> > > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i napisa?(a): > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Saurav, > >> > > >> > > > Are you concluding that Mars and Ketu in 6H or 2H leads to > >> > > >> > physical > >> > > >> > > > harm to spouse, similar to what Sanjay P has mentioned? I > >> asked > >> > > >> > the > >> > > >> > > > question because Sanjayji in his lecture mentions about this > >> > > >> > > > combination leading to harm to the native by the spouse. Hope > >> we > >> > > >> > will > >> > > >> > > > get the clarification in due course. > >> > > >> > > > regards > >> > > >> > > > Ramesh > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > *souravc108* > >> > > >> > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > 08/14/2007 12:28 PM > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > Please respond to > >> > > >> > > > sohamsa@ .com > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > To > >> > > >> > > > sohamsa@ .com > >> > > >> > > > cc > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > Subject > >> > > >> > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||* > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Ramesh-ji, > >> > > >> > > > namaskar. 8th is maraka to > >> > > >> > the 7th > >> > > >> > > > and can kill spouse. 2nd is 8th from 7th and hence determines > >> > > >> > > > longevity of spouse as well. 12-th is absence or separation > >> from > >> > > >> > > > spouse leading to temporary bachelorhood. Malefics in the 2nd > >> > > >> > house > >> > > >> > > > show how separation happens. Sani here can show nindaa > >> (calumny). > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > Best wishes, > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > Sourav > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= > >> > > >> > > > ========= ========= > >> > > >> > > > sohamsa@ .com, Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > Dear Sanjay P, > >> > > >> > > > > Does the harm come to native or spouse? Does the same result > >> > > >> > hold > >> > > >> > > > good for > >> > > >> > > > > Mars and Ketu in 2H of D9 too? > >> > > >> > > > > regards > >> > > >> > > > > Ramesh > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > sanjaychettiar@ ... > >> > > >> > > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com > >> > > >> > > > > 08/14/2007 10:06 AM > >> > > >> > > > > Please respond to > >> > > >> > > > > sohamsa@ .com > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > To > >> > > >> > > > > sohamsa@ .com > >> > > >> > > > > cc > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > Subject > >> > > >> > > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9 > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > >> > > >> > > > > Dear Nitish, > >> > > >> > > > > Mars and Ketu in 6th in general is very bad in Navamsa can > >> > > >> > indicate > >> > > >> > > > > harming/killing spouse. Are you of a violent type? Make sure > >> > > >> > the > >> > > >> > > > Navamsa > >> > > >> > > > > lagna is correct first by checking out the trines and your > >> > > >> > nature. > >> > > >> > > > > Warm Regards > >> > > >> > > > > Sanjay P > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > On 8/13/07, yeeahoo_99 nitish.arya@ ... wrote: > >> > > >> > > > > Dear all, > >> > > >> > > > > Does Mars+Ke combination in 6th house in navamsa in the > >> > > >> > following > >> > > >> > > > > chart indicate a dangerous marital relationship? Mars is in > >> > > >> > exchange > >> > > >> > > > > with AK Venus placed with Ra in 12th house, as well as lords > >> > > >> > the UL > >> > > >> > > > > in the rashi chart showing involvement of spouse. > >> > > >> > > > > Also, note that the Saturn+Jupiter are also placed together > >> in > >> > > >> > the > >> > > >> > > > > navamsa ascendant, though Ju is lord of lagna in D-9. > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > April 5, 1983 > >> > > >> > > > > Time: 4:15:00 > >> > > >> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > >> > > >> > > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > >> > > >> > > > > New Delhi, India > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > regards, > >> > > >> > > > > nitish > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > <!-- > >> > > >> > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, > >> sans-serif;} > >> > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;} > >> > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, > >> clean, sans-serif;} > >> > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > >> > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;} > >> > #ygrp-text{ > >> > font-family: Georgia; > >> > } > >> > #ygrp-text p{ > >> > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > >> > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > >> > font-family: Arial; > >> > clear:both;} > >> > #ygrp-vitnav{ > >> > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;} > >> > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > >> > padding:0 1px;} > >> > #ygrp-actbar{ > >> > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text- > >> align:right; } > >> > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > >> > float:left;white- space:nowrap; } > >> > .bld{font-weight: bold;} > >> > #ygrp-grft{ > >> > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;} > >> > #ygrp-ft{ > >> > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666; > >> > padding:5px 0; > >> > } > >> > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > >> > padding-bottom: 10px;} > >> > > >> > #ygrp-vital{ > >> > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} > >> > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > >> > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; color:#333; > >> text- > >> transform:uppercase ;} > >> > #ygrp-vital ul{ > >> > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;} > >> > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > >> > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee; > >> > } > >> > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > >> > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text- > >> align:right; padding-right: .5em;} > >> > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > >> > font-weight: bold;} > >> > #ygrp-vital a { > >> > text-decoration: none;} > >> > > >> > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > >> > text-decoration: underline; } > >> > > >> > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > >> > color:#999;font- size:77%; } > >> > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > >> > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;} > >> > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > >> > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; } > >> > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > >> > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;} > >> > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > >> > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;} > >> > #ygrp-sponsor #nc { > >> > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;} > >> > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > >> > padding:8px 0;} > >> > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > >> > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font- > >> size:100%;line- height:122% ;} > >> > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > >> > text-decoration: none;} > >> > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > >> > text-decoration: underline; } > >> > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > >> > margin:0;} > >> > o {font-size:0; } > >> > .MsoNormal { > >> > margin:0 0 0 0;} > >> > #ygrp-text tt{ > >> > font-size:120% ;} > >> > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;} > >> > .replbq {margin:4;} > >> > --> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > >> ____________ ___ > >> > Luggage? 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