Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9

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hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear Sundeep,

 

If DK is in seventh bhava then its like AK in Lagna for the spouse...so

naturally its not only for beginning.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

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vedicastrostudent napisał(a):

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafalji,

Unfortunately I think Michal's question is still unanswered, at

least in my mind. You said

 

"only shows context/issue in which relationship arise"

 

I think Michal's question was does DK specifically only deal with

the BEGINNING of relationship or not. Your answer simply adds more

(past desires, wealth) without answering this specific

doubt/disagreement.

 

Thanks

 

Sundeep

 

sohamsa@

..com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...>

wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Michael,

>

> About that chart: Previously I took Virgo Lagna, and then I

corrected it

> to Kumbha.

>

> About DK: DK is microscopic view of soul on matters of 1) past

life

> desires 2) relationship 3) wealth (some say wealth of Atma is

> knowledge). My definition about issue and context comes from our

Gurudev

> (like everything which I try to repeat here on those forums) and

it

> helps to mix naisargika, sthira, arudhas. If You work on many

levels of

> Jyotish you have to build some shortcuts in your mind to not get

lost.

>

>

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.

fora.pl

>

>

> Michal Dziwulski napisa³(a):

> > Hare Rama Krsna ||

> >

> > Dear Rafal,

> >

> > Not quite sure why you addressed this point. I never

mentioned

> > cheating in marriage, nor any connection of cheating with

Rahu

DK.

> >

> > Also...

> > I would'nt limit Darakaraka to:

> >

> > only shows context/issue in which relationship arise

> >

> > Darakaraka does not just show how relationships are formed

but

has a

> > vital role to play throughout any relationship. Otherwise

Peterson

> > would have beheaded his wife when he met her.

> >

> > Respectfully,

> > Michal

> >

> >

> > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...>

> > sohamsa@

..com

> > Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:36:09 PM

> > Re: Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9

> >

> > *hraum namah adityaya*

> >

> > Dear Michael,

> >

> > I think that You know this :

> > Rahu DK doesnt neccesarily show person is cheater in

marriage,

it only

> > shows context/issue in which relationship arise. For further

> > investigation rest of karakas and vargas must be seen.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

> > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> >

> >

> > Michal Dziwulski napisa³(a):

> >> Hare Rama Krsna ||

> >>

> >> Dear Sundeep,

> >>

> >> If DK was Atma of the spouse then what would AmK be? Atma

of

my

> >> boss? GK? Do all my relatives have the same Atma? No. The

 

> >> principle must apply across the board. The carakarakas in

the

chart

> >> are all you.

> >>

> >> Extend this another way. The rajyoga that occurs with AK

and

PK - it

> >> is not a guarantee that your children will support you,

but

rather

> >> that you will have supporters. And why will people

support

you?

> >> Because you are worthy of that support because of this

combiantion in

> >> your chart.

> >>

> >> In the case of Peterson that terrible Rahu happened to be

DK,

so that

> >> is what he does to the spouse. His soul level functioning

with

> >> regard to his spouse is totally haywire.

> >>

> >> Hope this helps understanding.

> >>

> >> Respectfully,

> >> Michal

> >>

> >>

> >> vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@

>

> >> sohamsa@ .com

> >> Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:32:00 PM

> >> Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th in D-9

> >>

> >> Dear Michal,

> >> Thanks for your input. I think I read in COVA that Rahu

as DK

means

> >> sudden unconventional marriages, although I havent really

seen

that

> >> happen. Even in this case, doesnt really look like there

was any

> >> trouble for the man. Does Rahu as DK represent the Atma

of the

> >> spouse, because her experience definitely must have been

of

shock

> >> and betrayal (and is consistent with debilitated,

vargottama

Rahu as

> >> you pointed out).

> >>

> >> I wonder if this is true - that when Rahu is DK, does the

 

spouse get

> >> at least some amount of shock and betrayal? What if it is

in

Upapada

> >> (would that be like Atmakaraka of the spouse in spouse's

own

Lagna)?

> >>

> >> Just some thoughts,

> >>

> >> Sundeep

> >>

> >> sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

40. com>,

> >> Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@ ...>

> >> wrote:

> >> >

> >> > Hare Rama Krsna ||

> >> >

> >> > Dear Sundeep,

> >> >

> >> > There are other combinations also.

> >> >

> >> > A vargottama debilitated Rahu in Jupiter's sign

spells danger

for

> >> human life. Rahu is the DK and is conjoined Venus in

Navamsa.

His

> >> wife's body was found beheaded. The whole incident

occurred in

> >> Vimshottari of Rahu Venus.

> >> >

> >> > Another interesting point is that Sun is in MKS, or

should I

say

> >> Venus because of parivartana? To see where the effects of

MKS

will

> >> occur we take the lordships of the planet. Here Venus is

the 7th

> >> lord. So death like suffering coming to spouse. Venus is

aspected

> >> by the combination of Jupiter and Rahu from the 2nd house

of

family

> >> and wealth. A major motive could have been finances and

the

> >> responsibilities of his growing family (as his wife was

pregnant).

> >> >

> >> > Respectfully,

> >> > Michal

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@

....>

> >> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

40. com>

> >> > Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:38:53 AM

> >> > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th

in D-9

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Dear Rafalji and others,

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Does this change with first spouse, second spouse

etc? I have

the

> >> >

> >> > birthtime of a well known convicted wife killer:

Scott

Peterson -

> >> >

> >> > Oct 24, 1972, San Diego, CA, USA, 9:36am. Web should

have lots

> >> more

> >> >

> >> > info, the killing was very brutal and got lots of

attention.

He

> >> >

> >> > doesnt seem to have this combination, but something

similar

must

> >> >

> >> > show up in such a violent crime, no?

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Please analyze and show us how this works. With the

above

time,

> >> 8th

> >> >

> >> > and 12th house in D-9 are unoccupied and unaspected

(by Rasi

> >> >

> >> > dristi). Interestingly enough, he had no history of

a "bad

> >> attitude"

> >> >

> >> > towards relationships. At least until one month

AFTER wife's

> >> >

> >> > disappearance, everyone including wife's parents

stood by him,

> >> until

> >> >

> >> > evidence finally led to his undoing.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Thanks

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Sundeep

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@ ...>

> >> >

> >> > wrote:

> >> >

> >> > >

> >> >

> >> > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> >> >

> >> > >

> >> >

> >> > > Dear Rameshji,

> >> >

> >> > >

> >> >

> >> > > Yes, I ve already wrote about this reversal

Sanjayji taught

in

> >> >

> >> > Serbija.

> >> >

> >> > > 2nd and 6th bhava when occupied by Ma+Ke gives

pain/death to

> >> >

> >> > native. 8th

> >> >

> >> > > and 12th to spouse (so native is

murderer/attacker) . I

have one

> >> >

> >> > chart

> >> >

> >> > > with Ra+Ma in 12H in D9 and person has very bad

mood

regarding

> >> >

> >> > > relationships.

> >> >

> >> > >

> >> >

> >> > >

> >> >

> >> > > Regards,

> >> >

> >> > > Rafal Gendarz

> >> >

> >> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> >> >

> >> > > email: rafal@

> >> >

> >> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> >> >

> >> > > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.

fora.pl

> >> >

> >> > >

> >> >

> >> > > Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i napisa?(a):

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > Dear Saurav,

> >> >

> >> > > > Are you concluding that Mars and Ketu in

6H or 2H leads to

> >> >

> >> > physical

> >> >

> >> > > > harm to spouse, similar to what Sanjay P

has mentioned? I

> >> asked

> >> >

> >> > the

> >> >

> >> > > > question because Sanjayji in his lecture

mentions about

this

> >> >

> >> > > > combination leading to harm to the native

by the spouse.

Hope

> >> we

> >> >

> >> > will

> >> >

> >> > > > get the clarification in due course.

> >> >

> >> > > > regards

> >> >

> >> > > > Ramesh

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > *souravc108*

> >> >

> >> > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > 08/14/2007 12:28 PM

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > Please respond to

> >> >

> >> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > To

> >> >

> >> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> >> >

> >> > > > cc

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > Subject

> >> >

> >> > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination in 6th

in D-9

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > *|| Hare Raama Krsna ||*

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > Dear Ramesh-ji,

> >> >

> >> > > > namaskar. 8th is maraka to

> >> >

> >> > the 7th

> >> >

> >> > > > and can kill spouse. 2nd is 8th from 7th

and hence

determines

> >> >

> >> > > > longevity of spouse as well. 12-th is

absence or

separation

> >> from

> >> >

> >> > > > spouse leading to temporary bachelorhood.

Malefics in the

2nd

> >> >

> >> > house

> >> >

> >> > > > show how separation happens. Sani here can

show nindaa

> >> (calumny).

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > Best wishes,

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > Sourav

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > ============ ========= ========= =========

=========

=========

> >> >

> >> > > > ========= =========

> >> >

> >> > > > sohamsa@ .com,

Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i

> >> wrote:

> >> >

> >> > > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> >> >

> >> > > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > > Dear Sanjay P,

> >> >

> >> > > > > Does the harm come to native or

spouse? Does the same

result

> >> >

> >> > hold

> >> >

> >> > > > good for

> >> >

> >> > > > > Mars and Ketu in 2H of D9 too?

> >> >

> >> > > > > regards

> >> >

> >> > > > > Ramesh

> >> >

> >> > > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > > sanjaychettiar@ ...

> >> >

> >> > > > > Sent by: sohamsa@ .com

> >> >

> >> > > > > 08/14/2007 10:06 AM

> >> >

> >> > > > > Please respond to

> >> >

> >> > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> >> >

> >> > > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > > To

> >> >

> >> > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> >> >

> >> > > > > cc

> >> >

> >> > > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > > Subject

> >> >

> >> > > > > Re: Mars-Ketu Combination

in 6th in D-9

> >> >

> >> > > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> >> >

> >> > > > > Dear Nitish,

> >> >

> >> > > > > Mars and Ketu in 6th in general is

very bad in Navamsa

can

> >> >

> >> > indicate

> >> >

> >> > > > > harming/killing spouse. Are you of a

violent type? Make

sure

> >> >

> >> > the

> >> >

> >> > > > Navamsa

> >> >

> >> > > > > lagna is correct first by checking

out the trines and

your

> >> >

> >> > nature.

> >> >

> >> > > > > Warm Regards

> >> >

> >> > > > > Sanjay P

> >> >

> >> > > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > > On 8/13/07, yeeahoo_99 nitish.arya@

.... wrote:

> >> >

> >> > > > > Dear all,

> >> >

> >> > > > > Does Mars+Ke combination in 6th house

in navamsa in the

> >> >

> >> > following

> >> >

> >> > > > > chart indicate a dangerous marital

relationship? Mars

is in

> >> >

> >> > exchange

> >> >

> >> > > > > with AK Venus placed with Ra in 12th

house, as well as

lords

> >> >

> >> > the UL

> >> >

> >> > > > > in the rashi chart showing

involvement of spouse.

> >> >

> >> > > > > Also, note that the Saturn+Jupiter

are also placed

together

> >> in

> >> >

> >> > the

> >> >

> >> > > > > navamsa ascendant, though Ju is lord

of lagna in D-9.

> >> >

> >> > > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > > April 5, 1983

> >> >

> >> > > > > Time: 4:15:00

> >> >

> >> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> >> >

> >> > > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"

> >> >

> >> > > > > New Delhi, India

> >> >

> >> > > > >

> >> >

> >> > > > > regards,

> >> >

> >> > > > > nitish

> >> >

> >> > > > >

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

> >> > > >

> >> >

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