3 questions regarding mediation and sprituality

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I am a novice in my pursuit of spirituality and would like to get

advice from people here who have deep knowledge of this subject. I

have 3 questions and our guidance is welcome. Thanking everyone in

advance.

 

I have been initiated by a Guru and have been asked to perform the

Soham dhayna. My guru is no more. I know the exact technique. But my

problems I find it very hard to meditate when I sit in a erect

posture with legs folded. I cant meditate more than 3-5 mins. If sit

upright with an asaan in dhyana mudra. My body as well as mind

becomes restless. But I can meditate better and longer time when I

am walking or travelling n a train or working at office. I can also

meditate better if I am lying down. I mean when I am in a sleeping

posture. Is it OK to continue mediating while doing other activities.

And also is it Ok to meditate n a sleeping position.Or do I have to

make myself sit erect and meditate ?

 

 

My second question s that t s said that one should mediate for a

given number of breaths. Like n sets of one. But during meditation it

is difficult to keep a count of the number of breaths as one must

focus on the breath rather than the count. I tried to make myself

meditate for around 15 mns by setting an alarm for 15 mns. Someone

advised me against this saying that the alarm got me out of

meditation in agitated state as opposed to a calm state and was very

detrimental to my mental state. How should how I go about this ?

 

 

Third question is personal development. I have read in a lot of

places that ego is the man enemy and one must do away with ego and

other things associated with it. As soon made up my mind to purse

spirituality also started making a conscious effort to curb my ego.

But everyone around me tells me that I have no attitude and have

become a pushover who can't stand for himself. Even my gf shunned

away from me thinking I am not tough enough and cant stand for

myself. I am confused as to what s right. Am I right in giving up my

anger and attitude or am I wrong ?

 

Any guadance is appreciated.

 

Thanks,

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|| Om Gurave Namah ||

 

Dear Asamanyna,

 

For the first question, Try to do a specific amount of counts per

sitting. You can begin with smaller counts. Even I had earlier

difficulty sitting long times initially but as you progress you

should be able sit longer. It may take many months depending on how

hard your body is. Try reciting " Vishnu " few minutes.

Reciting " Vishnu " makes your body supple and flexible. But it's

always good it sit in padmasana with erect spine pose atleast for

sometime everyday. Other times if you want to your do your regular

ishta devata (or any preferred diety at a given time ) meditations

you can do while walking lying down etc. Remember about your guru

everytime your sit for your daily pooja.

 

Seondly, You can use Rudraksha or any mala you like for keeping

count. You can learn from someone how to keep count using your finger

digits (The lines each joints in finger can be used for counting).

 

Each one is different and has different ways, find the way which

suites you best. " What's Good for the geese many not be good for the

gander " is a quoute Narasimhaji often qoutes.

 

Warm Regards

Sanjay P

 

 

sohamsa , " asamanyna " <asamanyna wrote:

>

> I am a novice in my pursuit of spirituality and would like to get

> advice from people here who have deep knowledge of this subject. I

> have 3 questions and our guidance is welcome. Thanking everyone in

> advance.

>

> I have been initiated by a Guru and have been asked to perform the

> Soham dhayna. My guru is no more. I know the exact technique. But

my

> problems I find it very hard to meditate when I sit in a erect

> posture with legs folded. I cant meditate more than 3-5 mins. If

sit

> upright with an asaan in dhyana mudra. My body as well as mind

> becomes restless. But I can meditate better and longer time when I

> am walking or travelling n a train or working at office. I can also

> meditate better if I am lying down. I mean when I am in a sleeping

> posture. Is it OK to continue mediating while doing other

activities.

> And also is it Ok to meditate n a sleeping position.Or do I have to

> make myself sit erect and meditate ?

>

>

> My second question s that t s said that one should mediate for a

> given number of breaths. Like n sets of one. But during meditation

it

> is difficult to keep a count of the number of breaths as one must

> focus on the breath rather than the count. I tried to make myself

> meditate for around 15 mns by setting an alarm for 15 mns. Someone

> advised me against this saying that the alarm got me out of

> meditation in agitated state as opposed to a calm state and was

very

> detrimental to my mental state. How should how I go about this ?

>

>

> Third question is personal development. I have read in a lot of

> places that ego is the man enemy and one must do away with ego and

> other things associated with it. As soon made up my mind to purse

> spirituality also started making a conscious effort to curb my ego.

> But everyone around me tells me that I have no attitude and have

> become a pushover who can't stand for himself. Even my gf shunned

> away from me thinking I am not tough enough and cant stand for

> myself. I am confused as to what s right. Am I right in giving up

my

> anger and attitude or am I wrong ?

>

> Any guadance is appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

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hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear Asamanyna,

 

All these rules are for concentration (dharana or dhyana) and they

really works, but if your body doesnt accept that, then recite or

meditate as it is convenient for You but the fact is that pranayama,

asana, chanda, mudra and many others increase our potential in

meditation, so that comes from practise but dont force Yourself, as

forcing will take away your mind more than neglecting meditation tools.

Yama and Niyama are very helpful to clean Nadis, then Asana enables to

Prana flow nicely and Pranayama is possible to stabilize the mind..all

this is in Yoga-Rahasya so understanding these processes enables to set

ourselves properly in every spiritual path be it yoga, bhakti,

karma-yoga or any other.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

 

sanjayprabhakaran napisał(a):

 

 

 

 

|| Om Gurave Namah ||

 

Dear Asamanyna,

 

For the first question, Try to do a specific amount of counts per

sitting. You can begin with smaller counts. Even I had earlier

difficulty sitting long times initially but as you progress you

should be able sit longer. It may take many months depending on how

hard your body is. Try reciting "Vishnu" few minutes.

Reciting "Vishnu" makes your body supple and flexible. But it's

always good it sit in padmasana with erect spine pose atleast for

sometime everyday. Other times if you want to your do your regular

ishta devata (or any preferred diety at a given time ) meditations

you can do while walking lying down etc. Remember about your guru

everytime your sit for your daily pooja.

 

Seondly, You can use Rudraksha or any mala you like for keeping

count. You can learn from someone how to keep count using your finger

digits (The lines each joints in finger can be used for counting).

 

Each one is different and has different ways, find the way which

suites you best. "What's Good for the geese many not be good for the

gander" is a quoute Narasimhaji often qoutes.

 

Warm Regards

Sanjay P

 

sohamsa@

..com, "asamanyna" <asamanyna@. ..> wrote:

>

> I am a novice in my pursuit of spirituality and would like to get

> advice from people here who have deep knowledge of this subject. I

 

> have 3 questions and our guidance is welcome. Thanking everyone in

 

> advance.

>

> I have been initiated by a Guru and have been asked to perform the

 

> Soham dhayna. My guru is no more. I know the exact technique. But

my

> problems I find it very hard to meditate when I sit in a erect

> posture with legs folded. I cant meditate more than 3-5 mins. If

sit

> upright with an asaan in dhyana mudra. My body as well as mind

> becomes restless. But I can meditate better and longer time when I

 

> am walking or travelling n a train or working at office. I can

also

> meditate better if I am lying down. I mean when I am in a sleeping

 

> posture. Is it OK to continue mediating while doing other

activities.

> And also is it Ok to meditate n a sleeping position.Or do I have

to

> make myself sit erect and meditate ?

>

>

> My second question s that t s said that one should mediate for a

> given number of breaths. Like n sets of one. But during meditation

 

it

> is difficult to keep a count of the number of breaths as one must

> focus on the breath rather than the count. I tried to make myself

> meditate for around 15 mns by setting an alarm for 15 mns. Someone

 

> advised me against this saying that the alarm got me out of

> meditation in agitated state as opposed to a calm state and was

very

> detrimental to my mental state. How should how I go about this ?

>

>

> Third question is personal development. I have read in a lot of

> places that ego is the man enemy and one must do away with ego and

 

> other things associated with it. As soon made up my mind to purse

> spirituality also started making a conscious effort to curb my

ego.

> But everyone around me tells me that I have no attitude and have

> become a pushover who can't stand for himself. Even my gf shunned

> away from me thinking I am not tough enough and cant stand for

> myself. I am confused as to what s right. Am I right in giving up

my

> anger and attitude or am I wrong ?

>

> Any guadance is appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

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Hi, Thanks to everyone who provided valuable information and links. It has been great help. I donot know what a natal chart is . Is it jamna patrika ? Its that is it, Ill get hold of it n mail you a scanned copy. regards. yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya wrote: Dear asamanyna,Can you send your natal chart details for further analysis of your problems in meditation?regards,nitishsohamsa , "asamanyna" <asamanyna wrote:>> I am a novice in my pursuit of spirituality and would like to get > advice from people here who have deep knowledge of this subject. I > have 3 questions and our guidance is welcome. Thanking everyone in > advance.> > I have been initiated by a Guru and have been asked to perform the > Soham dhayna. My guru is no more. I know the exact technique. But my > problems I find it very hard to meditate when I sit in a erect > posture with legs folded. I cant meditate more than 3-5 mins. If sit > upright with an asaan in dhyana mudra. My body as well as mind > becomes restless. But I can meditate better and longer time when I > am walking or travelling n a train or working at office. I can also > meditate better if I am lying down. I mean when I am in a

sleeping > posture. Is it OK to continue mediating while doing other activities. > And also is it Ok to meditate n a sleeping position.Or do I have to > make myself sit erect and meditate ?> > > My second question s that t s said that one should mediate for a > given number of breaths. Like n sets of one. But during meditation it > is difficult to keep a count of the number of breaths as one must > focus on the breath rather than the count. I tried to make myself > meditate for around 15 mns by setting an alarm for 15 mns. Someone > advised me against this saying that the alarm got me out of > meditation in agitated state as opposed to a calm state and was very > detrimental to my mental state. How should how I go about this ?> > > Third question is personal development. I have read in a lot of > places that ego is the man enemy and one must do

away with ego and > other things associated with it. As soon made up my mind to purse > spirituality also started making a conscious effort to curb my ego. > But everyone around me tells me that I have no attitude and have > become a pushover who can't stand for himself. Even my gf shunned > away from me thinking I am not tough enough and cant stand for > myself. I am confused as to what s right. Am I right in giving up my > anger and attitude or am I wrong ?> > Any guadance is appreciated.> > Thanks,>

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Dear asamanya,

 

The basis for doing meditation is to completely forget about what thoughts are coming once you are able to come to that stage you will be reaching a stage of nothought (thouglessness) and there you will find a serene place.

 

Soham ( is a breath technique- if you observe your breath intake is SO and exhale sounds like HAM) now even if you just follow the your breaths you will reach that state.

 

Sitting on a chair and doing meditation is also OK

http://anandsrivatsa.com/blog/2007/07/21/how-to-meditate/

EGO - some says " Evil Going On " and some says have a healthy ego. Definition varies from one person to person.

 

It is a very difficult thing to explain this.

 

If you don't object to somebody's opinion then you are egoless. Even here if somebody does not like what I have said or written if they don't have their own opinion of if they did not let me know that they differ with what is said they it will hurt them. Including me too, that is the reason I am writing what I think is the answer to your question.

 

Don't kill your ego, have it, while you are meditating and when you reach that point, you will be ego less. You don't have to specifically try to be without ego.

 

This is my opinion ( or my ego)

 

Anand

On 8/17/07, asamanyna <asamanyna wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

I am a novice in my pursuit of spirituality and would like to get advice from people here who have deep knowledge of this subject. I have 3 questions and our guidance is welcome. Thanking everyone in advance.

I have been initiated by a Guru and have been asked to perform the Soham dhayna. My guru is no more. I know the exact technique. But my problems I find it very hard to meditate when I sit in a erect posture with legs folded. I cant meditate more than 3-5 mins. If sit upright with an asaan in dhyana mudra. My body as well as mind becomes restless. But I can meditate better and longer time when I am walking or travelling n a train or working at office. I can also meditate better if I am lying down. I mean when I am in a sleeping posture. Is it OK to continue mediating while doing other activities. And also is it Ok to meditate n a sleeping position.Or do I have to make myself sit erect and meditate ?My second question s that t s said that one should mediate for a given number of breaths. Like n sets of one. But during meditation it is difficult to keep a count of the number of breaths as one must focus on the breath rather than the count. I tried to make myself meditate for around 15 mns by setting an alarm for 15 mns. Someone advised me against this saying that the alarm got me out of meditation in agitated state as opposed to a calm state and was very detrimental to my mental state. How should how I go about this ?Third question is personal development. I have read in a lot of places that ego is the man enemy and one must do away with ego and other things associated with it. As soon made up my mind to purse spirituality also started making a conscious effort to curb my ego. But everyone around me tells me that I have no attitude and have become a pushover who can't stand for himself. Even my gf shunned away from me thinking I am not tough enough and cant stand for myself. I am confused as to what s right. Am I right in giving up my anger and attitude or am I wrong ?

Any guadance is appreciated.Thanks, -- ThanksAnand Srivatsa

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Hi Nitish, Here are details of my natal charts. Date of birth : 1st May 1980 Place of birth : Mumbai (India) Time of birth : 3:51 (a.m.) (early morning) Rashi : tula Thanking you. regards yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya wrote: Hi,It is janma patrika only. You neednt scan the whole thing. Just putthe following: Date of birth, time of birth,

place of birth.regards,nitishsohamsa , V S <asamanyna wrote:>> Hi,> Thanks to everyone who provided valuable information and links.It has been great help.> I donot know what a natal chart is . Is it jamna patrika ? Itsthat is it, Ill get hold of it n mail you a scanned copy.> > regards.> > > yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya wrote:> Dear asamanyna,> Can you send your natal chart details for further analysis of your > problems in meditation?> regards,> nitish> > sohamsa , "asamanyna" <asamanyna@> wrote:> >> > I am a novice in my pursuit of spirituality and would like to get > > advice from people here who have deep knowledge of this

subject. I > > have 3 questions and our guidance is welcome. Thanking everyone in > > advance.> > > > I have been initiated by a Guru and have been asked to perform the > > Soham dhayna. My guru is no more. I know the exact technique. But > my > > problems I find it very hard to meditate when I sit in a erect > > posture with legs folded. I cant meditate more than 3-5 mins. If > sit > > upright with an asaan in dhyana mudra. My body as well as mind > > becomes restless. But I can meditate better and longer time when I > > am walking or travelling n a train or working at office. I can also > > meditate better if I am lying down. I mean when I am in a sleeping > > posture. Is it OK to continue mediating while doing other > activities. > > And also is it Ok to meditate n a sleeping position.Or do I have to > > make

myself sit erect and meditate ?> > > > > > My second question s that t s said that one should mediate for a > > given number of breaths. Like n sets of one. But during meditation > it > > is difficult to keep a count of the number of breaths as one must > > focus on the breath rather than the count. I tried to make myself > > meditate for around 15 mns by setting an alarm for 15 mns. Someone > > advised me against this saying that the alarm got me out of > > meditation in agitated state as opposed to a calm state and was > very > > detrimental to my mental state. How should how I go about this ?> > > > > > Third question is personal development. I have read in a lot of > > places that ego is the man enemy and one must do away with ego and > > other things associated with it. As soon made up my mind to purse

> > spirituality also started making a conscious effort to curb my ego. > > But everyone around me tells me that I have no attitude and have > > become a pushover who can't stand for himself. Even my gf shunned > > away from me thinking I am not tough enough and cant stand for > > myself. I am confused as to what s right. Am I right in giving up > my > > anger and attitude or am I wrong ?> > > > Any guadance is appreciated.> > > > Thanks,> >> > > > > > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel.>

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Sorry posted through this email id as the other one (V S) was giving problems.Navin Desai <navdesai wrote: Hi Nitish, Here are details of my natal charts. Date of birth : 1st May 1980 Place of birth : Mumbai (India) Time of birth : 3:51 (a.m.) (early morning) Rashi : tula Thanking you. regards yeeahoo_99

<nitish.arya > wrote: Hi,It is janma patrika only. You neednt scan the whole thing. Just putthe following: Date of birth, time of birth, place of birth.regards,nitishsohamsa , V S <asamanyna wrote:>> Hi,> Thanks to everyone who provided valuable information and links.It has been great help.> I donot know what a natal chart is . Is it jamna patrika ? Itsthat is it, Ill get hold of it n mail you a scanned copy.> > regards.> > > yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya wrote:> Dear asamanyna,> Can you send your natal chart details for further analysis of your > problems in meditation?> regards,> nitish>

> sohamsa , "asamanyna" <asamanyna@> wrote:> >> > I am a novice in my pursuit of spirituality and would like to get > > advice from people here who have deep knowledge of this subject. I > > have 3 questions and our guidance is welcome. Thanking everyone in > > advance.> > > > I have been initiated by a Guru and have been asked to perform the > > Soham dhayna. My guru is no more. I know the exact technique. But > my > > problems I find it very hard to meditate when I sit in a erect > > posture with legs folded. I cant meditate more than 3-5 mins. If > sit > > upright with an asaan in dhyana mudra. My body as well as mind > > becomes restless. But I can meditate better and longer time when I > > am walking or travelling n a train or working at

office. I can also > > meditate better if I am lying down. I mean when I am in a sleeping > > posture. Is it OK to continue mediating while doing other > activities. > > And also is it Ok to meditate n a sleeping position.Or do I have to > > make myself sit erect and meditate ?> > > > > > My second question s that t s said that one should mediate for a > > given number of breaths. Like n sets of one. But during meditation > it > > is difficult to keep a count of the number of breaths as one must > > focus on the breath rather than the count. I tried to make myself > > meditate for around 15 mns by setting an alarm for 15 mns. Someone > > advised me against this saying that the alarm got me out of > > meditation in agitated state as opposed to a calm state and was > very > > detrimental to my mental state. How

should how I go about this ?> > > > > > Third question is personal development. I have read in a lot of > > places that ego is the man enemy and one must do away with ego and > > other things associated with it. As soon made up my mind to purse > > spirituality also started making a conscious effort to curb my ego. > > But everyone around me tells me that I have no attitude and have > > become a pushover who can't stand for himself. Even my gf shunned > > away from me thinking I am not tough enough and cant stand for > > myself. I am confused as to what s right. Am I right in giving up > my > > anger and attitude or am I wrong ?> > > > Any guadance is appreciated.> > > > Thanks,> >> > > > > > > > Need a

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