Jupiter as AK (to Tijanaji, Nitish and v_reality)

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Namaste AllThe definition of Ego (Aham) is the thought of mine-ness and separativeness from others. The thought which picks up a collection of thoughts and calls it " Me " is Ego. It, then, identifies itself as separate from others. It does this in the light of Brahman or Atman. The light of Atman that enlivens the thoughts, is also " thought " to be " mine " . This results in the thought of conditioned consciousness. Atman/Brahman is ever free. It remains unbound, however the " individual " thinks himself to be bound for he identifies himself/herself as a collection of thoughts with a particular different body, etc.

There are 3 modifications of Ego " I Am " : the individual self " I am supreme " : when the individual self starts comparing oneself with others and start to have complexes about being better than the others.

" Only I exist " : an arrogant thinking that all others are there to serve me. As someone pointed out, " That I am humble " is also a form of ego, since it is " I am " and refers to the individual self. However, this form of ego is more desirable that the other two modifications, since it is expansive and considerate and loosens the " Mineness " thought. Ego is reduced through identification (love as in Bhakti) and through Viveka (discrimination between the real and the false). Both are same as one would soon realize. Ego illusion goes away through Knowledge of the Self/Realization of the True Self. Just wanted to convey a few thoughts, hope they are useful for the thread. To Sri Sundeep: Yes I have Surya Devata as my Atmakaraka. It is in the 8th house and with the vargottama lagna lord Budha in Makara. I am currently running Surya Vimshottari Dasha as seen from Chandra nakshatra.

Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 8/30/07, Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Guys, Namaskar

Are Ego and Ahamkara the same thing? I think Ego has a much broader

meaning in the English tongue.

Yours sincerely,

 

 

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Promila Chitkara wrote:

 

 

 

Ego

is not only the feeling of " I'm great " , but it is also the " Poor me "

attitude. Both great and poor me demand attention. I'll stop at that as

it's a forum to discuss to jyotish (you rightly said).

 

I've

Taurus ascendent . Saturn is in the third house (Cancer) along with

Sun. Darkness and light are together. D-9 ascendent is Capricon and

Saturn is in the 7th house (Cancer). So Saturn is Virgottama. IT's also

my Ishtadevta. Now tell me what's in your mind

 

 

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tijanadamjanovic <nix_nixen

sohamsa

Thursday, August 30, 2007 8:40:08 PM

Re: Jupiter as AK (to Tijanaji, Nitish and v_reality)

 

 

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Sundeep and Promila,

It`s inevitable to enter the sphere of philosophy in subjects like

this, but we should try stick to Jyotish principles. That is how i

understood Nitish`s and mine discussion. Not in a moment i thought i

can actually define ahamkar, or even ego, and am sure it wasn`t

Nitish` ambition either.

Actually i follow a single definition of ego taught by my Guru-ego is

nothing but a situation where we are taking more than we are giving.

If one likes to think, one can find a lot in this simple statement and

it`s the most practical advice also.

Promila, where is Saturn in your rasi and navamsa chart?

Warm regards,

Tijana

 

 

sohamsa@

..com, Promila Chitkara <promilac@.. .> wrote:

>

> Sundeep,

>

> You post was beautiful!

>

> I don't know how technically accurate it is, but at the

psychological level you have made good points. I've Rahu as my AK, but

I've major ego despite a weak Sun! Maybe it comes from Mars in the D-1

and D-9 ascendents. However, since Ketu is placed in D-1 ascendent

(taurus) with Mars, it urges me to do a lot of self-analysis and

self-obervation. Not even a single hour passes in my life without

analyzing my thoughts and actions...I don't know if I make sense here.

>

>

> P.

>

>

>

> vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@ ...>

> sohamsa@

..com

> Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:26:13 AM

> Re: Jupiter as AK (to Tijanaji, Nitish and

v_reality)

>

> Dear Tijanaji and Nitish,

>

> I have been reading your exchange with interest in the hope of

> learning something new, but I find myself disagreeing subtly in

the

> essence of what you say. In fact, deep down in the exchange I find

 

> this statement made by " v_reality " which makes a lot of sense to

me:

> " Can this also be understood at a different level as the

effacement

> of 'self' in a spiritual sense? " .

>

> Here is my take - I have none of the scriptural knowledge you both

 

> have, only I have seen several Sun AK people: I dont think it is

> fair to say that Sun AK people are egotistic. See, English also

has

> a lot of words which have subtly different meanings, and the right

 

> one has to be used. An egotistic person is one who has a

exaggerated

> sense of self-importance. Almost everyone in this world has that

> (and you are fooling yourself if you deny it), it is plain wrong

to

> observe a person have Sun AK and simultaneously observe that he

also

> has an exaggerated sense of self importance and say " yes, that is

> what the Sun AK does to him " . I can cite hundreds of people I know

 

> who are very self important and DONT have Sun AK, and not only

that

> may not even have a strong Sun in their chart.

>

> I personally think the only statement that can be observed

> repeatedly with Sun AK people is that they are egocentric i.e.

their

> view of the world is based on the individual rather than the

> society. They may or may not be egotistical (i.e. egocentricity

does

> not imply self importance) - the AK simply makes them go through

> experiences in life such that their core self is tested. How they

> respond to it depends probably on lots of other astrological

> factors. The only statement I can safely make, based on pure

> experience, is that Sun AK people are guided to divinity through

> experiences of the self, consequently their view is egocentric.

>

> I know one Sun AK woman (dont know if I can share her data) who

was

> molested (by her own professor) and denied a higher degree that

she

> worked hard for, then get married and then divorced, then have her

 

> mom die of cancer in a rather painful way, then have her brother

get

> divorced in a messy lawsuit (and then leave her too), then (she)

get

> married again and her husband develop terminal cancer very soon

> afterward. Net result: she cant seem to find a strong and

consistent

> support outside of herself - she has become self reliant and only

> finds consistent happiness in meditation/reiki. She is probably

> egotistical in some degree too, but not in any outstanding way at

> all, and probably much less than all the people around her..

>

> Consequently, I really dispute the fact that Sun AK people must

> learn to " reduce their ego " . That is simply a general lesson for

all

> of mankind. Sun AK people's AK will guide them towards divinity

> through experiences that make them focus on themselves and search

> for the truth: now that's the statement I find much more to the

> point.

>

> Comments?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Sundeep

>

> sohamsa@ .com, nix nixen <nix_nixen@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> > Dear Nitish,

> > Only from one simple statement of yours " It is not always

> possible for me... " i read that your AK must be nothing less than

> Sun. Am i right? If yes, then i think i`m on the right way of

> finding answers on my queries.

> > Warm regards,

> > Tijana

> >

> > yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya@ ...> wrote:

> > Dear Tijana,

> > Raja Yoga is the yoga of soul with paramatma - deep/shallow,

> > material/spiritual - all kind of things have a basis only in

> > paramatma. Thus, even Raja-bhanga yoga has a basis i.e.

separation

> of

> > soul from paramatma (which is illusory only though) and hence

> > material/spiritual loss depending on the kind of karma

involved.

> >

> > As the lord of a sign, a planet rules a 12th part of the

> > consciousness, relatively . Thus, in part, it becomes its

> > responsibility to guide the affairs of that sign/house towards

> > fulfillment. You may explore it further.

> >

> > It is not always possible for me to answer to your specific

> queries.

> > Hopefully, in time, you will discover the truth of your

queries.

> >

> > best regards,

> > nitish

> >

> > sohamsa@ .com, " tijanadamjanovic "

<nix_nixen@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > Dear Nitish,

> > > Yes, all must serve. The questions raised in these

discussions

> on Atma

> > > karakas were on the specific way of serving.

> > > If we say that Sun AK must learn principles of artha

shastra to

> serve,

> > > the same stands for Ma and Ju AK? How to differentiate?

I assume

> you

> > > are taking karakatvas of the houses into account also

(2nd, 6th,

> 10th)?

> > > The Sun/Raja gets service on the throne, but regarding

> spirituality

> > > and Atma this is related to real Raja yoga whose deepest

meaning

> is

> > > inseparable from 10th house of indriyas (refer

Vivekananda) .

> Only in

> > > that sense we can talk of Janaka or the perfect King.

What artha

> > > shastra principles you had in mind?

> > > Warm regards,

> > > Tijana

> > >

> > > sohamsa@ .com, " yeeahoo_99 "

<nitish.arya@ >

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > || Om TAT SAT ||

> > > > Dear Tijana,

> > > >

> > > > > To fulfill ones own dharma is what you

probably had in mind

> > > > > mentioning Gita in this context.

> > > >

> > > > Context that was intended is Gita Chapter 3,sloka

22.

> > > >

> > > > All must work if the lord of the cosmos has chosen

to work.

> Thus,

> > > > there is nothing specific that only SUN AK has to

" serve " , all

> AKs

> > > > " serve " .

> > > >

> > > > > But, are you implying that Sun AK gives a

person akin to

> Janaka?!

> > > >

> > > > Yes, Sun AK gives a person akin to Janaka -

jivanmukta -

> provided

> > > > enough effort has been put in.

> > > >

> > > > > Are you determing dharma based on this?

> > > >

> > > > No, Sun AK need not be 9th lord.

> > > >

> > > > > Will you advise Sun AK people to take

Dhartharastra as an

> example!

> > > >

> > > > Yes.

> > > > The attitude of service is seen from 6th house. Leo

being a

> dharma

> > > > trikona sign fulfills its purpose of service

through 10th

> house of

> > > > Artha, which is 6th from it. So a Sun AK should

learn

> principles of

> > > > artha shastra to serve.

> > > >

> > > > > So, again, what Raja will hardly ever do is

serving.

> > > >

> > > > All souls have to " Serve " only as there is nothing

else to be

> done

> > > > in the three worlds because Krishna has already

achieved

> everything

> > > > that is there to achieve in the three worlds(refer

Gita).

> Those who

> > > > do not serve, are reborn to learn to serve,

whatever be their

> AK.

> > > >

> > > > > Swami Vivekananda` s Dharm bhava lord was Sun

AK in lagna in

> Dhanus

> > > > > (extraordinary combination for unselfish

giving by itself).

> > > > > But do you think it`s a coincidence that His

Master had

> exalted

> > > > Saturn in 9th

> > > > > bhava and Rahu AK? What do you think, why even

Swami needed

> these?

> > > >

> > > > One is not re-born after exhausting his

karma/desires. Thus,

> > > > vivekananda (Rahu PiK) came here to exhaust his

remaining

> karma/

> > > > desires with Ramakrishna (Rahu AK). There is no

more substance

> to

> > > > this than a past-life karmic relationship of the

two which

> continued

> > > > in this birth also.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > NITISH

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa@ .com, " tijana "

<nix_nixen@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > Dear Nitish,

> > > > > Your elaboration would be even more brilliant

if you had

> just answer

> > > > > my question.

> > > > > To fulfill ones own dharma is what you

probably had in mind

> > > > mentioning

> > > > > Gita in this context. But, are you implying

that Sun AK

> gives a

> > > > > person akin to Janaka?! Are you determing

dharma based on

> this? Will

> > > > > you advise Sun AK people to take Dhartharastra

as an

> example!

> > > > > So, again, what Raja will hardly ever do is

serving.

> > > > > Swami Vivekananda` s Dharm bhava lord was Sun

AK in lagna in

> Dhanus

> > > > > (extraordinary combination for unselfish

giving by itself).

> But do

> > > > you

> > > > > think it`s a coincidence that His Master had

exalted Saturn

> in 9th

> > > > > bhava and Rahu AK? What do you think, why even

Swami needed

> these?

> > > > > Warm regards,

> > > > > Tijana

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa@ .com, " yeeahoo_99 "

<nitish.arya@ >

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > || Om Tat Sat ||

> > > > > > Dear Tijana,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > What is the thing that Raja will

hardly ever do?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Read up Gita, arthashastra and ancient

texts that show

> what

> > > > all a

> > > > > > Raja has to do to ensure that his

subjects are protected

> and

> > > > progress

> > > > > > on the upward evolutionary path. Look at

krishna, Janaka

> and

> > > > > > ChandraGupta Maurya and you will

understand whatever

> that " hardly

> > > > > > ever do " equates to.

> > > > > > Otherwise, going by your statement, AK

wouldn't do

> anything

> > > > being

> > > > > > the king of the horoscope and the rest of

the karakas (BK,

> PiK,

> > > > Puk,

> > > > > > GK) i.e. his subjects will follow the

suit!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Actually, the mantra is " Shiva jnane Jiva

Seva " (serving

> every

> > > > > > being as the full manifestation of God)

that Narendranath

> > > > received

> > > > > > from his Master Ramakrishna who had Sun

in Aquarius.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Being Sun AK, Vivekananda had developed

peculiar sharpness

> of

> > > > > > perception and assimilation that

empowered him with

> unusual power

> > > > to

> > > > > > pick up 'the gems' from the talks of his

Master.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > With Sun in Sagittarius, he could, as

compared to others,

> > > > easily

> > > > > > 'see' the deep meaning in the words of

Sri Ramakrishna,

> even

> > > > though

> > > > > > the Master told them in simple language

(Aq Sun), and

> never as

> > > > > > preaching.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > With its dispositor Jupiter in Libra,

gradually Swami

> > > > Vivekananda

> > > > > > started assimilating tips and hints on

practical Vedanta

> that

> > > > could

> > > > > > benefit individual and collective life in

the society.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > " ...For spiritual persons Sun as AK

should be in

> Jupiter`s

> > > > signs

> > > > > > > (Shiva jnane...), otherwise it`s

very hard task... "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Putting up statements like you have done

is not wise. Sri

> > > > Yukteswar

> > > > > > Giri, has Sun AK placed in Aries and had

attained highest

> level

> > > > of

> > > > > > spirituality. Even if Sun AK is placed in

Libra, it could

> be the

> > > > most

> > > > > > spiritual person.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > AK shows the spiritual power of a sign

over the rest of

> the

> > > > signs/

> > > > > > planets in the chart and this spiritual

power manifests

> through

> > > > the

> > > > > > dispositor of AK and its sign placement.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > NITISH

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, " tijana "

<nix_nixen@>

> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > Dear Su,

> > > > > > > Sun is the Self. Its qualities are

those of Raja (karaka

> for

> > > > the

> > > > > > > first house, lord of the 5th, dig

bala in 10th). What is

> the

> > > > thing

> > > > > > > that Raja will hardly ever do? The

lesson that has to be

> learnt

> > > > by

> > > > > > > Sun AK is serving, in the highest

sence it gives " Shiva

> jnane

> > > > Shiva

> > > > > > > seva " (service of man as God)-the

divine lesson given to

> us by

> > > > > > Swami

> > > > > > > Vivekananda (Sun AK). For spiritual

persons Sun as AK

> should be

> > > > in

> > > > > > > Jupiter`s signs (Shiva jnane...),

otherwise it`s very

> hard task.

> > > > > > > Warm regards,

> > > > > > > Tijana

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, " v

reality " <reality_v@>

> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Bojan-ji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thank you for your reply. Much

appreciated.

> > > > > > > > If I may ask another query re

Sun AK. The lesson to be

> > > > learnt

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > Sun AK,

> > > > > > > > is the reduction of ego. Can

this also be understood

> at a

> > > > > > > different level

> > > > > > > > as the effacement of 'self' in

a spiritual sense?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > > Su

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >Bojan Vidakovic

<janbovid@>

> > > > > > > > >

sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > > > > >sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > > > > >Re:

Jupiter as AK

> > > > > > > > >Wed, 22 Aug 2007

08:33:22 -0700 (PDT)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >HARE RAMA KRISHNA

> > > > > > > > >Dear Su

> > > > > > > > >I would add that with Gu AK

person have to be very

> humble to

> > > > all

> > > > > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > > >techers and natives, like

priests, gurus, teachers.

> With Ma

> > > > AK

> > > > > > > person must

> > > > > > > > >practise Ahumsa

(nonviolence) , with Ch the native is

> always

> > > > very

> > > > > > > caring,

> > > > > > > > >and gives emotions but the

problem is that they never

> get

> > > > enough

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > >themselves from other

people. The person must learn

> lessons

> > > > also

> > > > > > > from the

> > > > > > > > >people represented with AK.

Ch / mother, Sy / father

> and

> > > > > > > everything those

> > > > > > > > >grahas represent.

> > > > > > > > >Take few examples of people

you know and see it in

> praxix.

> > > > Best

> > > > > > > wishes,

> > > > > > > > >Bojan

> > > > > > > > >Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Su,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Person should use a lot of

glass and sing/hum

> melodies.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > v reality napisał(a):

Dear Rafalji/Members

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This is an interesting

discussion. Could we discuss

> other

> > > > AKs

> > > > > > > too. I read

> > > > > > > > > in an article that natives

with Moon as AK need to

> learn

> > > > to be

> > > > > > > more

> > > > > > > > >caring

> > > > > > > > > and loving to others. But

I know of a chart where

> the

> > > > native

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > already

> > > > > > > > >by

> > > > > > > > > nature very caring, loving

and concerned about

> others

> > > > since

> > > > > > > young. So

> > > > > > > > >what

> > > > > > > > > is the lesson to be learnt?

> > > > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > > > Su

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@ wp.pl>

> > > > > > > > > >

sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > > > > > >To:

sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > > > > > >Re:

Jupiter as AK

> > > > > > > > > >Wed, 22 Aug 2007

10:24:14 +0200

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >Dear LN Kumar,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >With Ju AK person

should learn to respect others

> > > > knowledge

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > >tradition,

> > > > > > > > > >should be ready to

learn from others. When Ju is in

> > > > kendra to

> > > > > > > AK or is

> > > > > > > > >AK

> > > > > > > > > >himself then native

thinks that he knows everything

> and

> > > > now

> > > > > > He

> > > > > > > can share

> > > > > > > > > >His knowledge with

everybody. Good teachers of

> course

> > > > comes

> > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > >AK-Jupiter- Natives,

as this graha will be

> naturally in

> > > > > > > Karakamsa.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >With MA AK person

should learn to catalyze energies

> > > > through

> > > > > > > ZEN, TAI-CHI

> > > > > > > > >or

> > > > > > > > > >other techniques,

while with JU AK person should

> learn to

> > > > be

> > > > > > > more humble

> > > > > > > > > >regarding knowledge.

Of course person can be

> focused on

> > > > > > Jupiter-

> > > > > > > karakas

> > > > > > > > > >like kids,

spirituality, law, luck etc.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >Mahadasa of AK brings

lesson to us so its not so

> easy

> > > > > > > materially but

> > > > > > > > > >inspiring spiritually,

so if Surya is in good

> placement

> > > > from

> > > > > > AK

> > > > > > > then it

> > > > > > > > >can

> > > > > > > > > >be not so bad as

person is spiritual.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >Regards,

> > > > > > > > > >Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > >Sri Jagannath Center

Guru

> > > > > > > > > >email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

com

> > > > > > > > > >Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >narender kumar

napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>Dear Gurujans,

> > > > > > > > > >>Kindly throw some

light on Jupiter as

> > > > > > > > > >>Atmakaraka and

having Jupiter as mahadasha.

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>Respectful Regards,

> > > > > > > > > >>LN Kumar

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>__________ __

_________ _________ _________

> _________

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[Guest guest]

Learned members,

This is a great discussion. May I request some information on a

tangential issue that was mentioned in the thread briefly. A few words

on the nature and the challenges for AK Mercury would be highly

appreciated.

 

 

Regards and thanks

Shiv

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