Jupiter as AK - malefic and benefic AKs

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Hi All,

 

I am not at all qualified to make this statement; however based on

personal observations I have often noticed that people with malefic

AK generally purge their sins of past lives in the current one

whereas those with benefic AK enjoy the fruits of their good work of

past lives.

 

In short what it means is a person with malefic AK does not have to

be neccassarily deemed as a more spiritual person than a person with

benefic AK.It is only a matter of where one is currently standing in

his soul's journey.

 

 

Please comment.

 

Thanks

Suchitra

 

sohamsa , Anand Ravi <anandravi2004 wrote:

>

> Om Namah Shivaya

>

> Dear Malini, Namaste

>

> Malefics as AK indicates higher level of spiritual development

while benefics indicates low level. Please do some search in

www..org and www.srath.com for interesting article on

this subject by Sanjay ji.

>

> Rgds

> Anand

>

> malinip59 wrote:

> > I think the discussion on AKs has got diverted from what was an

> > interesting topic. Kindly elucidate for those of us who are

learning

> > here in this forum as to how different atmakarakas get assigned

to

> > birth charts, do they reflect karmic causes? What does Guru as

AK

> > mean in spiritual terms?

> > sohamsa@ .com , Promila Chitkara <promilac@ .>

wrote:

> >>

> >> Ego is not only the feeling of " I'm great " , but it is also

> > the " Poor me " attitude. Both great and poor me demand attention.

I'll

> > stop at that as it's a forum to discuss to jyotish (you rightly

said).

> >>

> >> I've Taurus ascendent . Saturn is in the third house (Cancer)

along

> > with Sun. Darkness and light are together. D-9 ascendent is

Capricon

> > and Saturn is in the 7th house (Cancer). So Saturn is

Virgottama.

> > IT's also my Ishtadevta. Now tell me what's in your mind

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> tijanadamjanovic <nix_nixen@ ..>

> >> sohamsa@ .com

> >> Thursday, August 30, 2007 8:40:08 PM

> >> Re: Jupiter as AK (to Tijanaji, Nitish and

> > v_reality)

> >>

> >> Om Gurave Namah

> >> Dear Sundeep and Promila,

> >> It`s inevitable to enter the sphere of philosophy in subjects

like

> >> this, but we should try stick to Jyotish principles. That is

how i

> >> understood Nitish`s and mine discussion. Not in a moment i

thought i

> >> can actually define ahamkar, or even ego, and am sure it wasn`t

> >> Nitish` ambition either.

> >> Actually i follow a single definition of ego taught by my Guru-

ego

> > is

> >> nothing but a situation where we are taking more than we are

giving.

> >> If one likes to think, one can find a lot in this simple

statement

> > and

> >> it`s the most practical advice also.

> >> Promila, where is Saturn in your rasi and navamsa chart?

> >> Warm regards,

> >> Tijana

> >>

> >>

> >> sohamsa@ .com, Promila Chitkara <promilac@ .>

> > wrote:

> >> >

> >> > Sundeep,

> >> >

> >> > You post was beautiful!

> >> >

> >> > I don't know how technically accurate it is, but at the

> >> psychological level you have made good points. I've Rahu as my

AK,

> > but

> >> I've major ego despite a weak Sun! Maybe it comes from Mars in

the

> > D-1

> >> and D-9 ascendents. However, since Ketu is placed in D-1

ascendent

> >> (taurus) with Mars, it urges me to do a lot of self-analysis

and

> >> self-obervation. Not even a single hour passes in my life

without

> >> analyzing my thoughts and actions...I don't know if I make

sense

> > here.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > P.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@ ...>

> >> > sohamsa@ .com

> >> > Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:26:13 AM

> >> > Re: Jupiter as AK (to Tijanaji, Nitish and

> > v_reality)

> >> >

> >> > Dear Tijanaji and Nitish,

> >> >

> >> > I have been reading your exchange with interest in the hope

of

> >> > learning something new, but I find myself disagreeing subtly

in

> > the

> >> > essence of what you say. In fact, deep down in the exchange I

> > find

> >> > this statement made by " v_reality " which makes a lot of sense

to

> > me:

> >> > " Can this also be understood at a different level as the

> > effacement

> >> > of 'self' in a spiritual sense? " .

> >> >

> >> > Here is my take - I have none of the scriptural knowledge you

> > both

> >> > have, only I have seen several Sun AK people: I dont think it

is

> >> > fair to say that Sun AK people are egotistic. See, English

also

> > has

> >> > a lot of words which have subtly different meanings, and the

> > right

> >> > one has to be used. An egotistic person is one who has a

> > exaggerated

> >> > sense of self-importance. Almost everyone in this world has

that

> >> > (and you are fooling yourself if you deny it), it is plain

wrong

> > to

> >> > observe a person have Sun AK and simultaneously observe that

he

> > also

> >> > has an exaggerated sense of self importance and say " yes,

that is

> >> > what the Sun AK does to him " . I can cite hundreds of people I

> > know

> >> > who are very self important and DONT have Sun AK, and not

only

> > that

> >> > may not even have a strong Sun in their chart.

> >> >

> >> > I personally think the only statement that can be observed

> >> > repeatedly with Sun AK people is that they are egocentric

i.e.

> > their

> >> > view of the world is based on the individual rather than the

> >> > society. They may or may not be egotistical (i.e.

egocentricity

> > does

> >> > not imply self importance) - the AK simply makes them go

through

> >> > experiences in life such that their core self is tested. How

they

> >> > respond to it depends probably on lots of other astrological

> >> > factors. The only statement I can safely make, based on pure

> >> > experience, is that Sun AK people are guided to divinity

through

> >> > experiences of the self, consequently their view is

egocentric.

> >> >

> >> > I know one Sun AK woman (dont know if I can share her data)

who

> > was

> >> > molested (by her own professor) and denied a higher degree

that

> > she

> >> > worked hard for, then get married and then divorced, then

have

> > her

> >> > mom die of cancer in a rather painful way, then have her

brother

> > get

> >> > divorced in a messy lawsuit (and then leave her too), then

(she)

> > get

> >> > married again and her husband develop terminal cancer very

soon

> >> > afterward. Net result: she cant seem to find a strong and

> > consistent

> >> > support outside of herself - she has become self reliant and

only

> >> > finds consistent happiness in meditation/reiki. She is

probably

> >> > egotistical in some degree too, but not in any outstanding

way at

> >> > all, and probably much less than all the people around her..

> >> >

> >> > Consequently, I really dispute the fact that Sun AK people

must

> >> > learn to " reduce their ego " . That is simply a general lesson

for

> > all

> >> > of mankind. Sun AK people's AK will guide them towards

divinity

> >> > through experiences that make them focus on themselves and

search

> >> > for the truth: now that's the statement I find much more to

the

> >> > point.

> >> >

> >> > Comments?

> >> >

> >> > Thanks,

> >> >

> >> > Sundeep

> >> >

> >> > sohamsa@ .com, nix nixen <nix_nixen@ ..>

wrote:

> >> > >

> >> > > Om Gurave Namah

> >> > > Dear Nitish,

> >> > > Only from one simple statement of yours " It is not always

> >> > possible for me... " i read that your AK must be nothing less

than

> >> > Sun. Am i right? If yes, then i think i`m on the right way of

> >> > finding answers on my queries.

> >> > > Warm regards,

> >> > > Tijana

> >> > >

> >> > > yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya@ ...> wrote:

> >> > > Dear Tijana,

> >> > > Raja Yoga is the yoga of soul with paramatma -

deep/shallow,

> >> > > material/spiritual - all kind of things have a basis only

in

> >> > > paramatma. Thus, even Raja-bhanga yoga has a basis i.e.

> > separation

> >> > of

> >> > > soul from paramatma (which is illusory only though) and

hence

> >> > > material/spiritual loss depending on the kind of karma

involved.

> >> > >

> >> > > As the lord of a sign, a planet rules a 12th part of the

> >> > > consciousness, relatively . Thus, in part, it becomes its

> >> > > responsibility to guide the affairs of that sign/house

towards

> >> > > fulfillment. You may explore it further.

> >> > >

> >> > > It is not always possible for me to answer to your specific

> >> > queries.

> >> > > Hopefully, in time, you will discover the truth of your

queries.

> >> > >

> >> > > best regards,

> >> > > nitish

> >> > >

> >> > > sohamsa@ .com, " tijanadamjanovic "

> > <nix_nixen@>

> >> > wrote:

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> >> > > > Dear Nitish,

> >> > > > Yes, all must serve. The questions raised in these

> > discussions

> >> > on Atma

> >> > > > karakas were on the specific way of serving.

> >> > > > If we say that Sun AK must learn principles of artha

shastra

> > to

> >> > serve,

> >> > > > the same stands for Ma and Ju AK? How to differentiate? I

> > assume

> >> > you

> >> > > > are taking karakatvas of the houses into account also

(2nd,

> > 6th,

> >> > 10th)?

> >> > > > The Sun/Raja gets service on the throne, but regarding

> >> > spirituality

> >> > > > and Atma this is related to real Raja yoga whose deepest

> > meaning

> >> > is

> >> > > > inseparable from 10th house of indriyas (refer

Vivekananda) .

> >> > Only in

> >> > > > that sense we can talk of Janaka or the perfect King.

What

> > artha

> >> > > > shastra principles you had in mind?

> >> > > > Warm regards,

> >> > > > Tijana

> >> > > >

> >> > > > sohamsa@ .com, " yeeahoo_99 "

<nitish.arya@ >

> >> > wrote:

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > || Om TAT SAT ||

> >> > > > > Dear Tijana,

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > > To fulfill ones own dharma is what you probably had

in

> > mind

> >> > > > > > mentioning Gita in this context.

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > Context that was intended is Gita Chapter 3,sloka 22.

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > All must work if the lord of the cosmos has chosen to

work.

> >> > Thus,

> >> > > > > there is nothing specific that only SUN AK has

to " serve " ,

> > all

> >> > AKs

> >> > > > > " serve " .

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > > But, are you implying that Sun AK gives a person akin

to

> >> > Janaka?!

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > Yes, Sun AK gives a person akin to Janaka - jivanmukta -

 

> >> > provided

> >> > > > > enough effort has been put in.

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > > Are you determing dharma based on this?

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > No, Sun AK need not be 9th lord.

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > > Will you advise Sun AK people to take Dhartharastra

as an

> >> > example!

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > Yes.

> >> > > > > The attitude of service is seen from 6th house. Leo

being a

> >> > dharma

> >> > > > > trikona sign fulfills its purpose of service through

10th

> >> > house of

> >> > > > > Artha, which is 6th from it. So a Sun AK should learn

> >> > principles of

> >> > > > > artha shastra to serve.

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > > So, again, what Raja will hardly ever do is serving.

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > All souls have to " Serve " only as there is nothing else

to

> > be

> >> > done

> >> > > > > in the three worlds because Krishna has already

achieved

> >> > everything

> >> > > > > that is there to achieve in the three worlds(refer

Gita).

> >> > Those who

> >> > > > > do not serve, are reborn to learn to serve, whatever be

> > their

> >> > AK.

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > > Swami Vivekananda` s Dharm bhava lord was Sun AK in

lagna

> > in

> >> > Dhanus

> >> > > > > > (extraordinary combination for unselfish giving by

> > itself).

> >> > > > > > But do you think it`s a coincidence that His Master

had

> >> > exalted

> >> > > > > Saturn in 9th

> >> > > > > > bhava and Rahu AK? What do you think, why even Swami

> > needed

> >> > these?

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > One is not re-born after exhausting his karma/desires.

> > Thus,

> >> > > > > vivekananda (Rahu PiK) came here to exhaust his

remaining

> >> > karma/

> >> > > > > desires with Ramakrishna (Rahu AK). There is no more

> > substance

> >> > to

> >> > > > > this than a past-life karmic relationship of the two

which

> >> > continued

> >> > > > > in this birth also.

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > regards,

> >> > > > > NITISH

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > sohamsa@ .com, " tijana " <nix_nixen@>

> > wrote:

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> >> > > > > > Dear Nitish,

> >> > > > > > Your elaboration would be even more brilliant if you

had

> >> > just answer

> >> > > > > > my question.

> >> > > > > > To fulfill ones own dharma is what you probably had

in

> > mind

> >> > > > > mentioning

> >> > > > > > Gita in this context. But, are you implying that Sun

AK

> >> > gives a

> >> > > > > > person akin to Janaka?! Are you determing dharma

based on

> >> > this? Will

> >> > > > > > you advise Sun AK people to take Dhartharastra as an

> >> > example!

> >> > > > > > So, again, what Raja will hardly ever do is serving.

> >> > > > > > Swami Vivekananda` s Dharm bhava lord was Sun AK in

lagna

> > in

> >> > Dhanus

> >> > > > > > (extraordinary combination for unselfish giving by

> > itself).

> >> > But do

> >> > > > > you

> >> > > > > > think it`s a coincidence that His Master had exalted

> > Saturn

> >> > in 9th

> >> > > > > > bhava and Rahu AK? What do you think, why even Swami

> > needed

> >> > these?

> >> > > > > > Warm regards,

> >> > > > > > Tijana

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, " yeeahoo_99 "

> > <nitish.arya@ >

> >> > wrote:

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat ||

> >> > > > > > > Dear Tijana,

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > What is the thing that Raja will hardly ever do?

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > Read up Gita, arthashastra and ancient texts that

show

> >> > what

> >> > > > > all a

> >> > > > > > > Raja has to do to ensure that his subjects are

> > protected

> >> > and

> >> > > > > progress

> >> > > > > > > on the upward evolutionary path. Look at krishna,

> > Janaka

> >> > and

> >> > > > > > > ChandraGupta Maurya and you will understand

whatever

> >> > that " hardly

> >> > > > > > > ever do " equates to.

> >> > > > > > > Otherwise, going by your statement, AK wouldn't do

> >> > anything

> >> > > > > being

> >> > > > > > > the king of the horoscope and the rest of the

karakas

> > (BK,

> >> > PiK,

> >> > > > > Puk,

> >> > > > > > > GK) i.e. his subjects will follow the suit!

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > Actually, the mantra is " Shiva jnane Jiva Seva "

> > (serving

> >> > every

> >> > > > > > > being as the full manifestation of God) that

> > Narendranath

> >> > > > > received

> >> > > > > > > from his Master Ramakrishna who had Sun in

Aquarius.

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > Being Sun AK, Vivekananda had developed peculiar

> > sharpness

> >> > of

> >> > > > > > > perception and assimilation that empowered him with

> >> > unusual power

> >> > > > > to

> >> > > > > > > pick up 'the gems' from the talks of his Master.

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > With Sun in Sagittarius, he could, as compared to

> > others,

> >> > > > > easily

> >> > > > > > > 'see' the deep meaning in the words of Sri

Ramakrishna,

> >> > even

> >> > > > > though

> >> > > > > > > the Master told them in simple language (Aq Sun),

and

> >> > never as

> >> > > > > > > preaching.

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > With its dispositor Jupiter in Libra, gradually

Swami

> >> > > > > Vivekananda

> >> > > > > > > started assimilating tips and hints on practical

> > Vedanta

> >> > that

> >> > > > > could

> >> > > > > > > benefit individual and collective life in the

society.

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > " ...For spiritual persons Sun as AK should be in

> >> > Jupiter`s

> >> > > > > signs

> >> > > > > > > > (Shiva jnane...), otherwise it`s very hard

task... "

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > Putting up statements like you have done is not

wise.

> > Sri

> >> > > > > Yukteswar

> >> > > > > > > Giri, has Sun AK placed in Aries and had attained

> > highest

> >> > level

> >> > > > > of

> >> > > > > > > spirituality. Even if Sun AK is placed in Libra, it

> > could

> >> > be the

> >> > > > > most

> >> > > > > > > spiritual person.

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > AK shows the spiritual power of a sign over the

rest of

> >> > the

> >> > > > > signs/

> >> > > > > > > planets in the chart and this spiritual power

manifests

> >> > through

> >> > > > > the

> >> > > > > > > dispositor of AK and its sign placement.

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > regards,

> >> > > > > > > NITISH

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, " tijana "

<nix_nixen@>

> >> > wrote:

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> >> > > > > > > > Dear Su,

> >> > > > > > > > Sun is the Self. Its qualities are those of Raja

> > (karaka

> >> > for

> >> > > > > the

> >> > > > > > > > first house, lord of the 5th, dig bala in 10th).

What

> > is

> >> > the

> >> > > > > thing

> >> > > > > > > > that Raja will hardly ever do? The lesson that

has to

> > be

> >> > learnt

> >> > > > > by

> >> > > > > > > > Sun AK is serving, in the highest sence it

> > gives " Shiva

> >> > jnane

> >> > > > > Shiva

> >> > > > > > > > seva " (service of man as God)-the divine lesson

given

> > to

> >> > us by

> >> > > > > > > Swami

> >> > > > > > > > Vivekananda (Sun AK). For spiritual persons Sun

as AK

> >> > should be

> >> > > > > in

> >> > > > > > > > Jupiter`s signs (Shiva jnane...), otherwise it`s

very

> >> > hard task.

> >> > > > > > > > Warm regards,

> >> > > > > > > > Tijana

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, " v reality "

> > <reality_v@>

> >> > wrote:

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > Dear Bojan-ji

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > Thank you for your reply. Much appreciated.

> >> > > > > > > > > If I may ask another query re Sun AK. The

lesson to

> > be

> >> > > > > learnt

> >> > > > > > > for

> >> > > > > > > > Sun AK,

> >> > > > > > > > > is the reduction of ego. Can this also be

> > understood

> >> > at a

> >> > > > > > > > different level

> >> > > > > > > > > as the effacement of 'self' in a spiritual

sense?

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > thanks

> >> > > > > > > > > Su

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > >Bojan Vidakovic <janbovid@>

> >> > > > > > > > > >sohamsa@ .com

> >> > > > > > > > > >sohamsa@ .com

> >> > > > > > > > > >Re: Jupiter as AK

> >> > > > > > > > > >Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:33:22 -0700 (PDT)

> >> > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > >HARE RAMA KRISHNA

> >> > > > > > > > > >Dear Su

> >> > > > > > > > > >I would add that with Gu AK person have to be

very

> >> > humble to

> >> > > > > all

> >> > > > > > > > spiritual

> >> > > > > > > > > >techers and natives, like priests, gurus,

> > teachers.

> >> > With Ma

> >> > > > > AK

> >> > > > > > > > person must

> >> > > > > > > > > >practise Ahumsa (nonviolence) , with Ch the

native

> > is

> >> > always

> >> > > > > very

> >> > > > > > > > caring,

> >> > > > > > > > > >and gives emotions but the problem is that

they

> > never

> >> > get

> >> > > > > enough

> >> > > > > > > > for

> >> > > > > > > > > >themselves from other people. The person must

> > learn

> >> > lessons

> >> > > > > also

> >> > > > > > > > from the

> >> > > > > > > > > >people represented with AK. Ch / mother, Sy /

> > father

> >> > and

> >> > > > > > > > everything those

> >> > > > > > > > > >grahas represent.

> >> > > > > > > > > >Take few examples of people you know and see

it in

> >> > praxix.

> >> > > > > Best

> >> > > > > > > > wishes,

> >> > > > > > > > > >Bojan

> >> > > > > > > > > >Hari Om Tat Sat

> >> > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > >Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote:

> >> > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya

> >> > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Su,

> >> > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > Person should use a lot of glass and sing/hum

> >> > melodies.

> >> > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> >> > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> >> > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> >> > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> >> > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> >> > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > v reality napisał(a): Dear Rafalji/Members

> >> > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > This is an interesting discussion. Could we

> > discuss

> >> > other

> >> > > > > AKs

> >> > > > > > > > too. I read

> >> > > > > > > > > > in an article that natives with Moon as AK

need

> > to

> >> > learn

> >> > > > > to be

> >> > > > > > > > more

> >> > > > > > > > > >caring

> >> > > > > > > > > > and loving to others. But I know of a chart

where

> >> > the

> >> > > > > native

> >> > > > > > > is

> >> > > > > > > > already

> >> > > > > > > > > >by

> >> > > > > > > > > > nature very caring, loving and concerned

about

> >> > others

> >> > > > > since

> >> > > > > > > > young. So

> >> > > > > > > > > >what

> >> > > > > > > > > > is the lesson to be learnt?

> >> > > > > > > > > > thanks

> >> > > > > > > > > > Su

> >> > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > >Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>

> >> > > > > > > > > > >sohamsa@ .com

> >> > > > > > > > > > >sohamsa@ .com

> >> > > > > > > > > > >Re: Jupiter as AK

> >> > > > > > > > > > >Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:24:14 +0200

> >> > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> >> > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > >Dear LN Kumar,

> >> > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > >With Ju AK person should learn to respect

others

> >> > > > > knowledge

> >> > > > > > > and

> >> > > > > > > > > >tradition,

> >> > > > > > > > > > >should be ready to learn from others. When

Ju is

> > in

> >> > > > > kendra to

> >> > > > > > > > AK or is

> >> > > > > > > > > >AK

> >> > > > > > > > > > >himself then native thinks that he knows

> > everything

> >> > and

> >> > > > > now

> >> > > > > > > He

> >> > > > > > > > can share

> >> > > > > > > > > > >His knowledge with everybody. Good teachers

of

> >> > course

> >> > > > > comes

> >> > > > > > > from

> >> > > > > > > > > > >AK-Jupiter- Natives, as this graha will be

> >> > naturally in

> >> > > > > > > > Karakamsa.

> >> > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > >With MA AK person should learn to catalyze

> > energies

> >> > > > > through

> >> > > > > > > > ZEN, TAI-CHI

> >> > > > > > > > > >or

> >> > > > > > > > > > >other techniques, while with JU AK person

should

> >> > learn to

> >> > > > > be

> >> > > > > > > > more humble

> >> > > > > > > > > > >regarding knowledge. Of course person can be

> >> > focused on

> >> > > > > > > Jupiter-

> >> > > > > > > > karakas

> >> > > > > > > > > > >like kids, spirituality, law, luck etc.

> >> > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > >Mahadasa of AK brings lesson to us so its

not so

> >> > easy

> >> > > > > > > > materially but

> >> > > > > > > > > > >inspiring spiritually, so if Surya is in

good

> >> > placement

> >> > > > > from

> >> > > > > > > AK

> >> > > > > > > > then it

> >> > > > > > > > > >can

> >> > > > > > > > > > >be not so bad as person is spiritual.

> >> > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > >Regards,

> >> > > > > > > > > > >Rafal Gendarz

> >> > > > > > > > > > >Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> >> > > > > > > > > > >email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

> >> > > > > > > > > > >Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> >> > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > >narender kumar napisa?(a):

> >> > > > > > > > > > >>

> >> > > > > > > > > > >>Dear Gurujans,

> >> > > > > > > > > > >>Kindly throw some light on Jupiter as

> >> > > > > > > > > > >>Atmakaraka and having Jupiter as mahadasha.

> >> > > > > > > > > > >>

> >> > > > > > > > > > >>Respectful Regards,

> >> > > > > > > > > > >>LN Kumar

> >> > > > > > > > > > >>

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> >> > > > > > > > > >Best wishes,

> >> > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > SJC Guru Bojan Vidakovic

> >> > > > > > > > > > for articles and consultations visit

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