Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Om Gurave Namah Dear Promila, Just pointing the one who is responsible for introspection and deep thinking. Look for the formations of Brahma yoga in your chart as the association of Jupiter and Saturn gives the ability for deep thinking. Brahma implies going to the very bottom or the very beginning. Jupiter in Kumbha is also a blessing for this. If however, this feature of the mind tends to torment you creating a tension, check up for the afflictions of Mercury and Moon, possible conjuction or mutual aspect of these two... What will give the real meaning to every thinking and make it useful is Jupiter as karaka for dhi and paka lagna. If lagna doesn`t cooperate with Jupiter all thinking becomes meaningless. Warm regards, Tijana sohamsa , Promila Chitkara <promilac wrote: > > Ego is not only the feeling of " I'm great " , but it is also the " Poor me " attitude. Both great and poor me demand attention. I'll stop at that as it's a forum to discuss to jyotish (you rightly said). > > I've Taurus ascendent . Saturn is in the third house (Cancer) along with Sun. Darkness and light are together. D-9 ascendent is Capricon and Saturn is in the 7th house (Cancer). So Saturn is Virgottama. IT's also my Ishtadevta. Now tell me what's in your mind > > > > tijanadamjanovic <nix_nixen > sohamsa > Thursday, August 30, 2007 8:40:08 PM > Re: Jupiter as AK (to Tijanaji, Nitish and v_reality) > > Om Gurave Namah > Dear Sundeep and Promila, > It`s inevitable to enter the sphere of philosophy in subjects like > this, but we should try stick to Jyotish principles. That is how i > understood Nitish`s and mine discussion. Not in a moment i thought i > can actually define ahamkar, or even ego, and am sure it wasn`t > Nitish` ambition either. > Actually i follow a single definition of ego taught by my Guru-ego is > nothing but a situation where we are taking more than we are giving. > If one likes to think, one can find a lot in this simple statement and > it`s the most practical advice also. > Promila, where is Saturn in your rasi and navamsa chart? > Warm regards, > Tijana > > > sohamsa@ .com, Promila Chitkara <promilac@ .> wrote: > > > > Sundeep, > > > > You post was beautiful! > > > > I don't know how technically accurate it is, but at the > psychological level you have made good points. I've Rahu as my AK, but > I've major ego despite a weak Sun! Maybe it comes from Mars in the D-1 > and D-9 ascendents. However, since Ketu is placed in D-1 ascendent > (taurus) with Mars, it urges me to do a lot of self-analysis and > self-obervation. Not even a single hour passes in my life without > analyzing my thoughts and actions...I don't know if I make sense here. > > > > > > P. > > > > > > > > vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@ ...> > > sohamsa@ .com > > Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:26:13 AM > > Re: Jupiter as AK (to Tijanaji, Nitish and v_reality) > > > > Dear Tijanaji and Nitish, > > > > I have been reading your exchange with interest in the hope of > > learning something new, but I find myself disagreeing subtly in the > > essence of what you say. In fact, deep down in the exchange I find > > this statement made by " v_reality " which makes a lot of sense to me: > > " Can this also be understood at a different level as the effacement > > of 'self' in a spiritual sense? " . > > > > Here is my take - I have none of the scriptural knowledge you both > > have, only I have seen several Sun AK people: I dont think it is > > fair to say that Sun AK people are egotistic. See, English also has > > a lot of words which have subtly different meanings, and the right > > one has to be used. An egotistic person is one who has a exaggerated > > sense of self-importance. Almost everyone in this world has that > > (and you are fooling yourself if you deny it), it is plain wrong to > > observe a person have Sun AK and simultaneously observe that he also > > has an exaggerated sense of self importance and say " yes, that is > > what the Sun AK does to him " . I can cite hundreds of people I know > > who are very self important and DONT have Sun AK, and not only that > > may not even have a strong Sun in their chart. > > > > I personally think the only statement that can be observed > > repeatedly with Sun AK people is that they are egocentric i.e. their > > view of the world is based on the individual rather than the > > society. They may or may not be egotistical (i.e. egocentricity does > > not imply self importance) - the AK simply makes them go through > > experiences in life such that their core self is tested. How they > > respond to it depends probably on lots of other astrological > > factors. The only statement I can safely make, based on pure > > experience, is that Sun AK people are guided to divinity through > > experiences of the self, consequently their view is egocentric. > > > > I know one Sun AK woman (dont know if I can share her data) who was > > molested (by her own professor) and denied a higher degree that she > > worked hard for, then get married and then divorced, then have her > > mom die of cancer in a rather painful way, then have her brother get > > divorced in a messy lawsuit (and then leave her too), then (she) get > > married again and her husband develop terminal cancer very soon > > afterward. Net result: she cant seem to find a strong and consistent > > support outside of herself - she has become self reliant and only > > finds consistent happiness in meditation/reiki. She is probably > > egotistical in some degree too, but not in any outstanding way at > > all, and probably much less than all the people around her.. > > > > Consequently, I really dispute the fact that Sun AK people must > > learn to " reduce their ego " . That is simply a general lesson for all > > of mankind. Sun AK people's AK will guide them towards divinity > > through experiences that make them focus on themselves and search > > for the truth: now that's the statement I find much more to the > > point. > > > > Comments? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sundeep > > > > sohamsa@ .com, nix nixen <nix_nixen@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > Dear Nitish, > > > Only from one simple statement of yours " It is not always > > possible for me... " i read that your AK must be nothing less than > > Sun. Am i right? If yes, then i think i`m on the right way of > > finding answers on my queries. > > > Warm regards, > > > Tijana > > > > > > yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya@ ...> wrote: > > > Dear Tijana, > > > Raja Yoga is the yoga of soul with paramatma - deep/shallow, > > > material/spiritual - all kind of things have a basis only in > > > paramatma. Thus, even Raja-bhanga yoga has a basis i.e. separation > > of > > > soul from paramatma (which is illusory only though) and hence > > > material/spiritual loss depending on the kind of karma involved. > > > > > > As the lord of a sign, a planet rules a 12th part of the > > > consciousness, relatively . Thus, in part, it becomes its > > > responsibility to guide the affairs of that sign/house towards > > > fulfillment. You may explore it further. > > > > > > It is not always possible for me to answer to your specific > > queries. > > > Hopefully, in time, you will discover the truth of your queries. > > > > > > best regards, > > > nitish > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, " tijanadamjanovic " <nix_nixen@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Nitish, > > > > Yes, all must serve. The questions raised in these discussions > > on Atma > > > > karakas were on the specific way of serving. > > > > If we say that Sun AK must learn principles of artha shastra to > > serve, > > > > the same stands for Ma and Ju AK? How to differentiate? I assume > > you > > > > are taking karakatvas of the houses into account also (2nd, 6th, > > 10th)? > > > > The Sun/Raja gets service on the throne, but regarding > > spirituality > > > > and Atma this is related to real Raja yoga whose deepest meaning > > is > > > > inseparable from 10th house of indriyas (refer Vivekananda) . > > Only in > > > > that sense we can talk of Janaka or the perfect King. What artha > > > > shastra principles you had in mind? > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > || Om TAT SAT || > > > > > Dear Tijana, > > > > > > > > > > > To fulfill ones own dharma is what you probably had in mind > > > > > > mentioning Gita in this context. > > > > > > > > > > Context that was intended is Gita Chapter 3,sloka 22. > > > > > > > > > > All must work if the lord of the cosmos has chosen to work. > > Thus, > > > > > there is nothing specific that only SUN AK has to " serve " , all > > AKs > > > > > " serve " . > > > > > > > > > > > But, are you implying that Sun AK gives a person akin to > > Janaka?! > > > > > > > > > > Yes, Sun AK gives a person akin to Janaka - jivanmukta - > > provided > > > > > enough effort has been put in. > > > > > > > > > > > Are you determing dharma based on this? > > > > > > > > > > No, Sun AK need not be 9th lord. > > > > > > > > > > > Will you advise Sun AK people to take Dhartharastra as an > > example! > > > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > The attitude of service is seen from 6th house. Leo being a > > dharma > > > > > trikona sign fulfills its purpose of service through 10th > > house of > > > > > Artha, which is 6th from it. So a Sun AK should learn > > principles of > > > > > artha shastra to serve. > > > > > > > > > > > So, again, what Raja will hardly ever do is serving. > > > > > > > > > > All souls have to " Serve " only as there is nothing else to be > > done > > > > > in the three worlds because Krishna has already achieved > > everything > > > > > that is there to achieve in the three worlds(refer Gita). > > Those who > > > > > do not serve, are reborn to learn to serve, whatever be their > > AK. > > > > > > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda` s Dharm bhava lord was Sun AK in lagna in > > Dhanus > > > > > > (extraordinary combination for unselfish giving by itself). > > > > > > But do you think it`s a coincidence that His Master had > > exalted > > > > > Saturn in 9th > > > > > > bhava and Rahu AK? What do you think, why even Swami needed > > these? > > > > > > > > > > One is not re-born after exhausting his karma/desires. Thus, > > > > > vivekananda (Rahu PiK) came here to exhaust his remaining > > karma/ > > > > > desires with Ramakrishna (Rahu AK). There is no more substance > > to > > > > > this than a past-life karmic relationship of the two which > > continued > > > > > in this birth also. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > NITISH > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, " tijana " <nix_nixen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Dear Nitish, > > > > > > Your elaboration would be even more brilliant if you had > > just answer > > > > > > my question. > > > > > > To fulfill ones own dharma is what you probably had in mind > > > > > mentioning > > > > > > Gita in this context. But, are you implying that Sun AK > > gives a > > > > > > person akin to Janaka?! Are you determing dharma based on > > this? Will > > > > > > you advise Sun AK people to take Dhartharastra as an > > example! > > > > > > So, again, what Raja will hardly ever do is serving. > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda` s Dharm bhava lord was Sun AK in lagna in > > Dhanus > > > > > > (extraordinary combination for unselfish giving by itself). > > But do > > > > > you > > > > > > think it`s a coincidence that His Master had exalted Saturn > > in 9th > > > > > > bhava and Rahu AK? What do you think, why even Swami needed > > these? > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || > > > > > > > Dear Tijana, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the thing that Raja will hardly ever do? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read up Gita, arthashastra and ancient texts that show > > what > > > > > all a > > > > > > > Raja has to do to ensure that his subjects are protected > > and > > > > > progress > > > > > > > on the upward evolutionary path. Look at krishna, Janaka > > and > > > > > > > ChandraGupta Maurya and you will understand whatever > > that " hardly > > > > > > > ever do " equates to. > > > > > > > Otherwise, going by your statement, AK wouldn't do > > anything > > > > > being > > > > > > > the king of the horoscope and the rest of the karakas (BK, > > PiK, > > > > > Puk, > > > > > > > GK) i.e. his subjects will follow the suit! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, the mantra is " Shiva jnane Jiva Seva " (serving > > every > > > > > > > being as the full manifestation of God) that Narendranath > > > > > received > > > > > > > from his Master Ramakrishna who had Sun in Aquarius. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Being Sun AK, Vivekananda had developed peculiar sharpness > > of > > > > > > > perception and assimilation that empowered him with > > unusual power > > > > > to > > > > > > > pick up 'the gems' from the talks of his Master. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Sun in Sagittarius, he could, as compared to others, > > > > > easily > > > > > > > 'see' the deep meaning in the words of Sri Ramakrishna, > > even > > > > > though > > > > > > > the Master told them in simple language (Aq Sun), and > > never as > > > > > > > preaching. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With its dispositor Jupiter in Libra, gradually Swami > > > > > Vivekananda > > > > > > > started assimilating tips and hints on practical Vedanta > > that > > > > > could > > > > > > > benefit individual and collective life in the society. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " ...For spiritual persons Sun as AK should be in > > Jupiter`s > > > > > signs > > > > > > > > (Shiva jnane...), otherwise it`s very hard task... " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Putting up statements like you have done is not wise. Sri > > > > > Yukteswar > > > > > > > Giri, has Sun AK placed in Aries and had attained highest > > level > > > > > of > > > > > > > spirituality. Even if Sun AK is placed in Libra, it could > > be the > > > > > most > > > > > > > spiritual person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AK shows the spiritual power of a sign over the rest of > > the > > > > > signs/ > > > > > > > planets in the chart and this spiritual power manifests > > through > > > > > the > > > > > > > dispositor of AK and its sign placement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > NITISH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, " tijana " <nix_nixen@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > Dear Su, > > > > > > > > Sun is the Self. Its qualities are those of Raja (karaka > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > > > first house, lord of the 5th, dig bala in 10th). What is > > the > > > > > thing > > > > > > > > that Raja will hardly ever do? The lesson that has to be > > learnt > > > > > by > > > > > > > > Sun AK is serving, in the highest sence it gives " Shiva > > jnane > > > > > Shiva > > > > > > > > seva " (service of man as God)-the divine lesson given to > > us by > > > > > > > Swami > > > > > > > > Vivekananda (Sun AK). For spiritual persons Sun as AK > > should be > > > > > in > > > > > > > > Jupiter`s signs (Shiva jnane...), otherwise it`s very > > hard task. > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, " v reality " <reality_v@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bojan-ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your reply. Much appreciated. > > > > > > > > > If I may ask another query re Sun AK. The lesson to be > > > > > learnt > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > Sun AK, > > > > > > > > > is the reduction of ego. Can this also be understood > > at a > > > > > > > > different level > > > > > > > > > as the effacement of 'self' in a spiritual sense? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Bojan Vidakovic <janbovid@> > > > > > > > > > >sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > >sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > >Re: Jupiter as AK > > > > > > > > > >Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:33:22 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > > > > > > > > >Dear Su > > > > > > > > > >I would add that with Gu AK person have to be very > > humble to > > > > > all > > > > > > > > spiritual > > > > > > > > > >techers and natives, like priests, gurus, teachers. > > With Ma > > > > > AK > > > > > > > > person must > > > > > > > > > >practise Ahumsa (nonviolence) , with Ch the native is > > always > > > > > very > > > > > > > > caring, > > > > > > > > > >and gives emotions but the problem is that they never > > get > > > > > enough > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > >themselves from other people. The person must learn > > lessons > > > > > also > > > > > > > > from the > > > > > > > > > >people represented with AK. Ch / mother, Sy / father > > and > > > > > > > > everything those > > > > > > > > > >grahas represent. > > > > > > > > > >Take few examples of people you know and see it in > > praxix. > > > > > Best > > > > > > > > wishes, > > > > > > > > > >Bojan > > > > > > > > > >Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Su, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Person should use a lot of glass and sing/hum > > melodies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > v reality napisał(a): Dear Rafalji/Members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is an interesting discussion. Could we discuss > > other > > > > > AKs > > > > > > > > too. I read > > > > > > > > > > in an article that natives with Moon as AK need to > > learn > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > >caring > > > > > > > > > > and loving to others. But I know of a chart where > > the > > > > > native > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > >by > > > > > > > > > > nature very caring, loving and concerned about > > others > > > > > since > > > > > > > > young. So > > > > > > > > > >what > > > > > > > > > > is the lesson to be learnt? > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > > > > > > > > > > >sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > >sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > >Re: Jupiter as AK > > > > > > > > > > >Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:24:14 +0200 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear LN Kumar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >With Ju AK person should learn to respect others > > > > > knowledge > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > >tradition, > > > > > > > > > > >should be ready to learn from others. When Ju is in > > > > > kendra to > > > > > > > > AK or is > > > > > > > > > >AK > > > > > > > > > > >himself then native thinks that he knows everything > > and > > > > > now > > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > can share > > > > > > > > > > >His knowledge with everybody. Good teachers of > > course > > > > > comes > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > >AK-Jupiter- Natives, as this graha will be > > naturally in > > > > > > > > Karakamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >With MA AK person should learn to catalyze energies > > > > > through > > > > > > > > ZEN, TAI-CHI > > > > > > > > > >or > > > > > > > > > > >other techniques, while with JU AK person should > > learn to > > > > > be > > > > > > > > more humble > > > > > > > > > > >regarding knowledge. Of course person can be > > focused on > > > > > > > Jupiter- > > > > > > > > karakas > > > > > > > > > > >like kids, spirituality, law, luck etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Mahadasa of AK brings lesson to us so its not so > > easy > > > > > > > > materially but > > > > > > > > > > >inspiring spiritually, so if Surya is in good > > placement > > > > > from > > > > > > > AK > > > > > > > > then it > > > > > > > > > >can > > > > > > > > > > >be not so bad as person is spiritual. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > > > > > > >Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > >Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > > >email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > >Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >narender kumar napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >>Dear Gurujans, > > > > > > > > > > >>Kindly throw some light on Jupiter as > > > > > > > > > > >>Atmakaraka and having Jupiter as mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >>Respectful Regards, > > > > > > > > > > >>LN Kumar > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >>__________ __ _________ _________ _________ > > _________ > > > > > > > > _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > >>Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the > > Internet in > > > > > your > > > > > > > > pocket: > > > > > > > > > >mail, > > > > > > > > > > >>news, photos & more. > > > > > > > > > > >>http://mobile. / go?refer= 1GNXIC > > > > > > > > > > >><http://mobile. / go?refer= 1GNXIC> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > > > > > _________ > > > > > > > _ > > > > > > > > > > Advertisement: It's simple! 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Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Hare Rama Krsna Dear Tijana ji, Namaskar. How true... My chart has Jupiter and Saturn in 7th in Dhanus. Not a day passes without my analysing whay and how's of my thoughts and actions. Guru is Paka Lagnesh, my LL deb ,Budha in Meena with Chandra and Ketu. Rahu is my AK and I welcomed all the experiences life has given me and have grown the better for those. I did always wonder when laughter rang out as to why I never did feel 'that' kind of a joy. I now do after all those experiences, that joy in the green meadows, blue waters and the sky, Mother Nature and in singing to the Divine which gives me Ananda beyond description. I always wondered why inspite of being blessed with a very good voice, musical talent have never made it as a profession?? I now realise it was for me to sing and experience 'that' bliss which is incomparable. My birth details are; 28th February, 1960, 14:42 hrs, Madras, India. Regards Nalini tijanadamjanovic <nix_nixensohamsa Sent: Friday, 31 August, 2007 6:03:19 AM Introspection Om Gurave NamahDear Promila,Just pointing the one who is responsible for introspection and deepthinking.Look for the formations of Brahma yoga in your chart as theassociation of Jupiter and Saturn gives the ability for deep thinking.Brahma implies going to the very bottom or the very beginning. Jupiterin Kumbha is also a blessing for this.If however, this feature of the mind tends to torment you creating atension, check up for the afflictions of Mercury and Moon, possibleconjuction or mutual aspect of these two... What will give the real meaning to every thinking and make it usefulis Jupiter as karaka for dhi and paka lagna. If lagna doesn`tcooperate with Jupiter all thinking becomes meaningless.Warm regards,Tijanasohamsa@ .com, Promila Chitkara <promilac@.. .> wrote:>> Ego is not only the feeling of "I'm great", but it is also the "Poorme" attitude. Both great and poor me demand attention. I'll stop atthat as it's a forum to discuss to jyotish (you rightly said).> > I've Taurus ascendent . Saturn is in the third house (Cancer) alongwith Sun. Darkness and light are together. D-9 ascendent is Capriconand Saturn is in the 7th house (Cancer). So Saturn is Virgottama. IT'salso my Ishtadevta. Now tell me what's in your mind > > > > tijanadamjanovic <nix_nixen@. ..>> sohamsa@ .com> Thursday, August 30, 2007 8:40:08 PM> Re: Jupiter as AK (to Tijanaji, Nitish and v_reality)> > Om Gurave Namah> Dear Sundeep and Promila,> It`s inevitable to enter the sphere of philosophy in subjects like> this, but we should try stick to Jyotish principles. That is how i> understood Nitish`s and mine discussion. Not in a moment i thought i> can actually define ahamkar, or even ego, and am sure it wasn`t> Nitish` ambition either. > Actually i follow a single definition of ego taught by my Guru-ego is> nothing but a situation where we are taking more than we are giving.> If one likes to think, one can find a lot in this simple statement and> it`s the most practical advice also.> Promila, where is Saturn in your rasi and navamsa chart?> Warm regards,> Tijana> > > sohamsa@ .com, Promila Chitkara <promilac@ .> wrote:> >> > Sundeep,> > > > You post was beautiful!> > > > I don't know how technically accurate it is, but at the> psychological level you have made good points. I've Rahu as my AK, but> I've major ego despite a weak Sun! Maybe it comes from Mars in the D-1> and D-9 ascendents. However, since Ketu is placed in D-1 ascendent> (taurus) with Mars, it urges me to do a lot of self-analysis and> self-obervation. Not even a single hour passes in my life without> analyzing my thoughts and actions...I don't know if I make sense here.> > > > > > P.> > > > > > > > vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@ ...>> > sohamsa@ .com> > Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:26:13 AM> > Re: Jupiter as AK (to Tijanaji, Nitish andv_reality)> > > > Dear Tijanaji and Nitish,> > > > I have been reading your exchange with interest in the hope of > > learning something new, but I find myself disagreeing subtly in the > > essence of what you say. In fact, deep down in the exchange I find > > this statement made by "v_reality" which makes a lot of sense to me:> > "Can this also be understood at a different level as the effacement > > of 'self' in a spiritual sense?".> > > > Here is my take - I have none of the scriptural knowledge you both > > have, only I have seen several Sun AK people: I dont think it is > > fair to say that Sun AK people are egotistic. See, English also has > > a lot of words which have subtly different meanings, and the right > > one has to be used. An egotistic person is one who has a exaggerated > > sense of self-importance. Almost everyone in this world has that > > (and you are fooling yourself if you deny it), it is plain wrong to > > observe a person have Sun AK and simultaneously observe that he also > > has an exaggerated sense of self importance and say "yes, that is > > what the Sun AK does to him". I can cite hundreds of people I know > > who are very self important and DONT have Sun AK, and not only that > > may not even have a strong Sun in their chart.> > > > I personally think the only statement that can be observed > > repeatedly with Sun AK people is that they are egocentric i.e. their > > view of the world is based on the individual rather than the > > society. They may or may not be egotistical (i.e. egocentricity does > > not imply self importance) - the AK simply makes them go through > > experiences in life such that their core self is tested. How they > > respond to it depends probably on lots of other astrological > > factors. The only statement I can safely make, based on pure > > experience, is that Sun AK people are guided to divinity through > > experiences of the self, consequently their view is egocentric.> > > > I know one Sun AK woman (dont know if I can share her data) who was > > molested (by her own professor) and denied a higher degree that she > > worked hard for, then get married and then divorced, then have her > > mom die of cancer in a rather painful way, then have her brother get > > divorced in a messy lawsuit (and then leave her too), then (she) get > > married again and her husband develop terminal cancer very soon > > afterward. Net result: she cant seem to find a strong and consistent > > support outside of herself - she has become self reliant and only > > finds consistent happiness in meditation/reiki. She is probably > > egotistical in some degree too, but not in any outstanding way at > > all, and probably much less than all the people around her..> > > > Consequently, I really dispute the fact that Sun AK people must > > learn to "reduce their ego". That is simply a general lesson for all > > of mankind. Sun AK people's AK will guide them towards divinity > > through experiences that make them focus on themselves and search > > for the truth: now that's the statement I find much more to the > > point.> > > > Comments?> > > > Thanks,> > > > Sundeep> > > > sohamsa@ .com, nix nixen <nix_nixen@ ..> wrote:> > >> > > Om Gurave Namah> > > Dear Nitish,> > > Only from one simple statement of yours "It is not always > > possible for me..." i read that your AK must be nothing less than > > Sun. Am i right? If yes, then i think i`m on the right way of > > finding answers on my queries.> > > Warm regards,> > > Tijana> > > > > > yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya@ ...> wrote:> > > Dear Tijana,> > > Raja Yoga is the yoga of soul with paramatma - deep/shallow,> > > material/spiritual - all kind of things have a basis only in> > > paramatma. Thus, even Raja-bhanga yoga has a basis i.e. separation > > of> > > soul from paramatma (which is illusory only though) and hence> > > material/spiritual loss depending on the kind of karma involved.> > > > > > As the lord of a sign, a planet rules a 12th part of the> > > consciousness, relatively . Thus, in part, it becomes its> > > responsibility to guide the affairs of that sign/house towards> > > fulfillment. You may explore it further.> > > > > > It is not always possible for me to answer to your specific > > queries.> > > Hopefully, in time, you will discover the truth of your queries.> > > > > > best regards,> > > nitish> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "tijanadamjanovic" <nix_nixen@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Dear Nitish,> > > > Yes, all must serve. The questions raised in these discussions > > on Atma> > > > karakas were on the specific way of serving. > > > > If we say that Sun AK must learn principles of artha shastra to > > serve,> > > > the same stands for Ma and Ju AK? How to differentiate? I assume > > you> > > > are taking karakatvas of the houses into account also (2nd, 6th, > > 10th)?> > > > The Sun/Raja gets service on the throne, but regarding > > spirituality> > > > and Atma this is related to real Raja yoga whose deepest meaning > > is> > > > inseparable from 10th house of indriyas (refer Vivekananda) . > > Only in> > > > that sense we can talk of Janaka or the perfect King. What artha> > > > shastra principles you had in mind?> > > > Warm regards,> > > > Tijana> > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "yeeahoo_99" <nitish.arya@ > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > || Om TAT SAT ||> > > > > Dear Tijana,> > > > > > > > > > > To fulfill ones own dharma is what you probably had in mind > > > > > > mentioning Gita in this context.> > > > > > > > > > Context that was intended is Gita Chapter 3,sloka 22.> > > > > > > > > > All must work if the lord of the cosmos has chosen to work. > > Thus, > > > > > there is nothing specific that only SUN AK has to "serve", all > > AKs > > > > > "serve".> > > > > > > > > > > But, are you implying that Sun AK gives a person akin to > > Janaka?! > > > > > > > > > > Yes, Sun AK gives a person akin to Janaka - jivanmukta - > > provided > > > > > enough effort has been put in.> > > > > > > > > > > Are you determing dharma based on this? > > > > > > > > > > No, Sun AK need not be 9th lord.> > > > > > > > > > > Will you advise Sun AK people to take Dhartharastra as an > > example! > > > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > The attitude of service is seen from 6th house. Leo being a > > dharma > > > > > trikona sign fulfills its purpose of service through 10th > > house of > > > > > Artha, which is 6th from it. So a Sun AK should learn > > principles of > > > > > artha shastra to serve.> > > > > > > > > > > So, again, what Raja will hardly ever do is serving. > > > > > > > > > > All souls have to "Serve" only as there is nothing else to be > > done > > > > > in the three worlds because Krishna has already achieved > > everything > > > > > that is there to achieve in the three worlds(refer Gita). > > Those who > > > > > do not serve, are reborn to learn to serve, whatever be their > > AK.> > > > > > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda` s Dharm bhava lord was Sun AK in lagna in > > Dhanus> > > > > > (extraordinary combination for unselfish giving by itself).> > > > > > But do you think it`s a coincidence that His Master had > > exalted > > > > > Saturn in 9th> > > > > > bhava and Rahu AK? What do you think, why even Swami needed > > these?> > > > > > > > > > One is not re-born after exhausting his karma/desires. Thus, > > > > > vivekananda (Rahu PiK) came here to exhaust his remaining > > karma/> > > > > desires with Ramakrishna (Rahu AK). There is no more substance > > to > > > > > this than a past-life karmic relationship of the two which > > continued > > > > > in this birth also.> > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > NITISH> > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "tijana" <nix_nixen@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > Dear Nitish,> > > > > > Your elaboration would be even more brilliant if you had > > just answer> > > > > > my question.> > > > > > To fulfill ones own dharma is what you probably had in mind > > > > > mentioning> > > > > > Gita in this context. But, are you implying that Sun AK > > gives a> > > > > > person akin to Janaka?! Are you determing dharma based on > > this? Will> > > > > > you advise Sun AK people to take Dhartharastra as an > > example! > > > > > > So, again, what Raja will hardly ever do is serving. > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda` s Dharm bhava lord was Sun AK in lagna in > > Dhanus> > > > > > (extraordinary combination for unselfish giving by itself). > > But do > > > > > you> > > > > > think it`s a coincidence that His Master had exalted Saturn > > in 9th> > > > > > bhava and Rahu AK? What do you think, why even Swami needed > > these? > > > > > > Warm regards,> > > > > > Tijana> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "yeeahoo_99" <nitish.arya@ > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat ||> > > > > > > Dear Tijana,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the thing that Raja will hardly ever do?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read up Gita, arthashastra and ancient texts that show > > what > > > > > all a > > > > > > > Raja has to do to ensure that his subjects are protected > > and > > > > > progress > > > > > > > on the upward evolutionary path. Look at krishna, Janaka > > and > > > > > > > ChandraGupta Maurya and you will understand whatever > > that "hardly > > > > > > > ever do" equates to.> > > > > > > Otherwise, going by your statement, AK wouldn't do > > anything > > > > > being > > > > > > > the king of the horoscope and the rest of the karakas (BK, > > PiK, > > > > > Puk, > > > > > > > GK) i.e. his subjects will follow the suit!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, the mantra is "Shiva jnane Jiva Seva" (serving > > every > > > > > > > being as the full manifestation of God) that Narendranath > > > > > received > > > > > > > from his Master Ramakrishna who had Sun in Aquarius.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Being Sun AK, Vivekananda had developed peculiar sharpness > > of > > > > > > > perception and assimilation that empowered him with > > unusual power > > > > > to > > > > > > > pick up 'the gems' from the talks of his Master.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Sun in Sagittarius, he could, as compared to others, > > > > > easily > > > > > > > 'see' the deep meaning in the words of Sri Ramakrishna, > > even > > > > > though > > > > > > > the Master told them in simple language (Aq Sun), and > > never as > > > > > > > preaching.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > With its dispositor Jupiter in Libra, gradually Swami > > > > > Vivekananda > > > > > > > started assimilating tips and hints on practical Vedanta > > that > > > > > could > > > > > > > benefit individual and collective life in the society.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "...For spiritual persons Sun as AK should be in > > Jupiter`s > > > > > signs > > > > > > > > (Shiva jnane...), otherwise it`s very hard task..."> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Putting up statements like you have done is not wise. Sri > > > > > Yukteswar > > > > > > > Giri, has Sun AK placed in Aries and had attained highest > > level > > > > > of > > > > > > > spirituality. Even if Sun AK is placed in Libra, it could > > be the > > > > > most > > > > > > > spiritual person.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > AK shows the spiritual power of a sign over the rest of > > the > > > > > signs/> > > > > > > planets in the chart and this spiritual power manifests > > through > > > > > the > > > > > > > dispositor of AK and its sign placement.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > NITISH> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "tijana" <nix_nixen@> > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > Dear Su,> > > > > > > > Sun is the Self. Its qualities are those of Raja (karaka > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > > > first house, lord of the 5th, dig bala in 10th). What is > > the > > > > > thing > > > > > > > > that Raja will hardly ever do? The lesson that has to be > > learnt > > > > > by > > > > > > > > Sun AK is serving, in the highest sence it gives "Shiva > > jnane > > > > > Shiva > > > > > > > > seva" (service of man as God)-the divine lesson given to > > us by > > > > > > > Swami > > > > > > > > Vivekananda (Sun AK). For spiritual persons Sun as AK > > should be > > > > > in > > > > > > > > Jupiter`s signs (Shiva jnane...), otherwise it`s very > > hard task.> > > > > > > > Warm regards,> > > > > > > > Tijana> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "v reality" <reality_v@> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Bojan-ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your reply. Much appreciated.> > > > > > > > > If I may ask another query re Sun AK. The lesson to be > > > > > learnt > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > Sun AK, > > > > > > > > > is the reduction of ego. Can this also be understood > > at a > > > > > > > > different level > > > > > > > > > as the effacement of 'self' in a spiritual sense?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks> > > > > > > > > Su> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Bojan Vidakovic <janbovid@>> > > > > > > > > >sohamsa@ .com> > > > > > > > > >sohamsa@ .com> > > > > > > > > >Re: Jupiter as AK> > > > > > > > > >Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:33:22 -0700 (PDT)> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >HARE RAMA KRISHNA> > > > > > > > > >Dear Su> > > > > > > > > >I would add that with Gu AK person have to be very > > humble to > > > > > all > > > > > > > > spiritual > > > > > > > > > >techers and natives, like priests, gurus, teachers. > > With Ma > > > > > AK > > > > > > > > person must > > > > > > > > > >practise Ahumsa (nonviolence) , with Ch the native is > > always > > > > > very > > > > > > > > caring, > > > > > > > > > >and gives emotions but the problem is that they never > > get > > > > > enough > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > >themselves from other people. The person must learn > > lessons > > > > > also > > > > > > > > from the > > > > > > > > > >people represented with AK. Ch / mother, Sy / father > > and > > > > > > > > everything those > > > > > > > > > >grahas represent.> > > > > > > > > >Take few examples of people you know and see it in > > praxix. > > > > > Best > > > > > > > > wishes, > > > > > > > > > >Bojan> > > > > > > > > >Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Su,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Person should use a lot of glass and sing/hum > > melodies.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > v reality napisał(a): Dear Rafalji/Members> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This is an interesting discussion. Could we discuss > > other > > > > > AKs > > > > > > > > too. I read> > > > > > > > > > in an article that natives with Moon as AK need to > > learn > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > >caring> > > > > > > > > > and loving to others. But I know of a chart where > > the > > > > > native > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > >by> > > > > > > > > > nature very caring, loving and concerned about > > others > > > > > since > > > > > > > > young. So > > > > > > > > > >what> > > > > > > > > > is the lesson to be learnt?> > > > > > > > > > thanks> > > > > > > > > > Su> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>> > > > > > > > > > >sohamsa@ .com> > > > > > > > > > >sohamsa@ .com> > > > > > > > > > >Re: Jupiter as AK> > > > > > > > > > >Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:24:14 +0200> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >Dear LN Kumar,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >With Ju AK person should learn to respect others > > > > > knowledge > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > >tradition,> > > > > > > > > > >should be ready to learn from others. When Ju is in > > > > > kendra to > > > > > > > > AK or is > > > > > > > > > >AK> > > > > > > > > > >himself then native thinks that he knows everything > > and > > > > > now > > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > can share> > > > > > > > > > >His knowledge with everybody. Good teachers of > > course > > > > > comes > > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > > >AK-Jupiter- Natives, as this graha will be > > naturally in > > > > > > > > Karakamsa.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >With MA AK person should learn to catalyze energies > > > > > through > > > > > > > > ZEN, TAI-CHI > > > > > > > > > >or> > > > > > > > > > >other techniques, while with JU AK person should > > learn to > > > > > be > > > > > > > > more humble> > > > > > > > > > >regarding knowledge. Of course person can be > > focused on > > > > > > > Jupiter-> > > > > > > > karakas> > > > > > > > > > >like kids, spirituality, law, luck etc.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >Mahadasa of AK brings lesson to us so its not so > > easy > > > > > > > > materially but> > > > > > > > > > >inspiring spiritually, so if Surya is in good > > placement > > > > > from > > > > > > > AK > > > > > > > > then it > > > > > > > > > >can> > > > > > > > > > >be not so bad as person is spiritual.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >Regards,> > > > > > > > > > >Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > > > > > >Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > > > > > > > >email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com> > > > > > > > > > >Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >narender kumar napisa?(a):> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Dear Gurujans,> > > > > > > > > > >>Kindly throw some light on Jupiter as> > > > > > > > > > >>Atmakaraka and having Jupiter as mahadasha.> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>Respectful Regards,> > > > > > > > > > >>LN Kumar> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>__________ __ _________ _________ _________ > > _________ > > > > > > > > _________ _> > > > > > > > > > >>Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the > > Internet in > > > > > your > > > > > > > > pocket: > > > > > > > > > >mail,> > > > > > > > > > >>news, photos & more.> > > > > > > > > > >>http://mobile. / go?refer= 1GNXIC> > > > > > > > > > >><http://mobile. / go?refer= 1GNXIC>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > > > > > _________ > > > > > > > _> > > > > > > > > > Advertisement: It's simple! 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Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Om Gurave Namah Dear Nalini, As you`ve mentioned experiences of the soul and struggle for the light, one more thing shoul be added here. Relationship of Atma and mind is crucial as the mind should be strong and capable to take and reflect light of the soul. The nature of this relationship is seen from the tithi and its lord. Rasi dristi of MK to AK is blessing for the mind and will give people whose mind will be devoid of impressions of pain and other such things. When this blessing of the mother is not there in the chart, a person confront constant struggle on the mental plane. Kala amrita yoga is formed in your chart and even though Jupiter is in the 7th house nodes brought you very hard fighting for preserving faith-you`ve faced great disappointments with people and suffered emotionally (Rahu AK is in the 4th-AL, A7 and UL, it aspects Moon conjoined Ketu and Mercury-Rahu`s dispositor)... The best singers have Moon in navamsa trines or in 3rd, 7th and 11th house in navamsa. For this to manifest in life some connection to AL in rasi chart should exist. Warm regards, Tijana sohamsa , nalini swamy <nalini2818 wrote: > > Hare Rama Krsna > Dear Tijana ji, > > Namaskar. > How true... My chart has Jupiter and Saturn in 7th in Dhanus. Not a day passes without my analysing whay and how's of my thoughts and actions. Guru is Paka Lagnesh, my LL deb ,Budha in Meena with Chandra and Ketu. Rahu is my AK and I welcomed all the experiences life has given me and have grown the better for those. I did always wonder when laughter rang out as to why I never did feel 'that' kind of a joy. I now do after all those experiences, that joy in the green meadows, blue waters and the sky, Mother Nature and in singing to the Divine which gives me Ananda beyond description. I always wondered why inspite of being blessed with a very good voice, musical talent have never made it as a profession?? I now realise it was for me to sing and experience 'that' bliss which is incomparable. > > My birth details are; 28th February, 1960, 14:42 hrs, Madras, India. > > Regards > Nalini > > > > > tijanadamjanovic <nix_nixen > sohamsa > Friday, 31 August, 2007 6:03:19 AM > Introspection > > Om Gurave Namah > Dear Promila, > Just pointing the one who is responsible for introspection and deep > thinking. > Look for the formations of Brahma yoga in your chart as the > association of Jupiter and Saturn gives the ability for deep thinking. > Brahma implies going to the very bottom or the very beginning. Jupiter > in Kumbha is also a blessing for this. > If however, this feature of the mind tends to torment you creating a > tension, check up for the afflictions of Mercury and Moon, possible > conjuction or mutual aspect of these two... > What will give the real meaning to every thinking and make it useful > is Jupiter as karaka for dhi and paka lagna. If lagna doesn`t > cooperate with Jupiter all thinking becomes meaningless. > Warm regards, > Tijana > > sohamsa@ .com, Promila Chitkara <promilac@ .> wrote: > > > > Ego is not only the feeling of " I'm great " , but it is also the " Poor > me " attitude. Both great and poor me demand attention. I'll stop at > that as it's a forum to discuss to jyotish (you rightly said). > > > > I've Taurus ascendent . Saturn is in the third house (Cancer) along > with Sun. Darkness and light are together. D-9 ascendent is Capricon > and Saturn is in the 7th house (Cancer). So Saturn is Virgottama. IT's > also my Ishtadevta. Now tell me what's in your mind > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic <nix_nixen@ ..> > > sohamsa@ .com > > Thursday, August 30, 2007 8:40:08 PM > > Re: Jupiter as AK (to Tijanaji, Nitish and v_reality) > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Sundeep and Promila, > > It`s inevitable to enter the sphere of philosophy in subjects like > > this, but we should try stick to Jyotish principles. That is how i > > understood Nitish`s and mine discussion. Not in a moment i thought i > > can actually define ahamkar, or even ego, and am sure it wasn`t > > Nitish` ambition either. > > Actually i follow a single definition of ego taught by my Guru- ego is > > nothing but a situation where we are taking more than we are giving. > > If one likes to think, one can find a lot in this simple statement and > > it`s the most practical advice also. > > Promila, where is Saturn in your rasi and navamsa chart? > > Warm regards, > > Tijana > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Promila Chitkara <promilac@ .> wrote: > > > > > > Sundeep, > > > > > > You post was beautiful! > > > > > > I don't know how technically accurate it is, but at the > > psychological level you have made good points. I've Rahu as my AK, but > > I've major ego despite a weak Sun! Maybe it comes from Mars in the D-1 > > and D-9 ascendents. However, since Ketu is placed in D-1 ascendent > > (taurus) with Mars, it urges me to do a lot of self-analysis and > > self-obervation. Not even a single hour passes in my life without > > analyzing my thoughts and actions...I don't know if I make sense here. > > > > > > > > > P. > > > > > > > > > > > > vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@ ...> > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:26:13 AM > > > Re: Jupiter as AK (to Tijanaji, Nitish and > v_reality) > > > > > > Dear Tijanaji and Nitish, > > > > > > I have been reading your exchange with interest in the hope of > > > learning something new, but I find myself disagreeing subtly in the > > > essence of what you say. In fact, deep down in the exchange I find > > > this statement made by " v_reality " which makes a lot of sense to me: > > > " Can this also be understood at a different level as the effacement > > > of 'self' in a spiritual sense? " . > > > > > > Here is my take - I have none of the scriptural knowledge you both > > > have, only I have seen several Sun AK people: I dont think it is > > > fair to say that Sun AK people are egotistic. See, English also has > > > a lot of words which have subtly different meanings, and the right > > > one has to be used. An egotistic person is one who has a exaggerated > > > sense of self-importance. Almost everyone in this world has that > > > (and you are fooling yourself if you deny it), it is plain wrong to > > > observe a person have Sun AK and simultaneously observe that he also > > > has an exaggerated sense of self importance and say " yes, that is > > > what the Sun AK does to him " . I can cite hundreds of people I know > > > who are very self important and DONT have Sun AK, and not only that > > > may not even have a strong Sun in their chart. > > > > > > I personally think the only statement that can be observed > > > repeatedly with Sun AK people is that they are egocentric i.e. their > > > view of the world is based on the individual rather than the > > > society. They may or may not be egotistical (i.e. egocentricity does > > > not imply self importance) - the AK simply makes them go through > > > experiences in life such that their core self is tested. How they > > > respond to it depends probably on lots of other astrological > > > factors. The only statement I can safely make, based on pure > > > experience, is that Sun AK people are guided to divinity through > > > experiences of the self, consequently their view is egocentric. > > > > > > I know one Sun AK woman (dont know if I can share her data) who was > > > molested (by her own professor) and denied a higher degree that she > > > worked hard for, then get married and then divorced, then have her > > > mom die of cancer in a rather painful way, then have her brother get > > > divorced in a messy lawsuit (and then leave her too), then (she) get > > > married again and her husband develop terminal cancer very soon > > > afterward. Net result: she cant seem to find a strong and consistent > > > support outside of herself - she has become self reliant and only > > > finds consistent happiness in meditation/reiki. She is probably > > > egotistical in some degree too, but not in any outstanding way at > > > all, and probably much less than all the people around her.. > > > > > > Consequently, I really dispute the fact that Sun AK people must > > > learn to " reduce their ego " . That is simply a general lesson for all > > > of mankind. Sun AK people's AK will guide them towards divinity > > > through experiences that make them focus on themselves and search > > > for the truth: now that's the statement I find much more to the > > > point. > > > > > > Comments? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, nix nixen <nix_nixen@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Nitish, > > > > Only from one simple statement of yours " It is not always > > > possible for me... " i read that your AK must be nothing less than > > > Sun. Am i right? If yes, then i think i`m on the right way of > > > finding answers on my queries. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Tijana, > > > > Raja Yoga is the yoga of soul with paramatma - deep/shallow, > > > > material/spiritual - all kind of things have a basis only in > > > > paramatma. Thus, even Raja-bhanga yoga has a basis i.e. separation > > > of > > > > soul from paramatma (which is illusory only though) and hence > > > > material/spiritual loss depending on the kind of karma involved. > > > > > > > > As the lord of a sign, a planet rules a 12th part of the > > > > consciousness, relatively . Thus, in part, it becomes its > > > > responsibility to guide the affairs of that sign/house towards > > > > fulfillment. You may explore it further. > > > > > > > > It is not always possible for me to answer to your specific > > > queries. > > > > Hopefully, in time, you will discover the truth of your queries. > > > > > > > > best regards, > > > > nitish > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, " tijanadamjanovic " <nix_nixen@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > Dear Nitish, > > > > > Yes, all must serve. The questions raised in these discussions > > > on Atma > > > > > karakas were on the specific way of serving. > > > > > If we say that Sun AK must learn principles of artha shastra to > > > serve, > > > > > the same stands for Ma and Ju AK? How to differentiate? I assume > > > you > > > > > are taking karakatvas of the houses into account also (2nd, 6th, > > > 10th)? > > > > > The Sun/Raja gets service on the throne, but regarding > > > spirituality > > > > > and Atma this is related to real Raja yoga whose deepest meaning > > > is > > > > > inseparable from 10th house of indriyas (refer Vivekananda) . > > > Only in > > > > > that sense we can talk of Janaka or the perfect King. What artha > > > > > shastra principles you had in mind? > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om TAT SAT || > > > > > > Dear Tijana, > > > > > > > > > > > > > To fulfill ones own dharma is what you probably had in mind > > > > > > > mentioning Gita in this context. > > > > > > > > > > > > Context that was intended is Gita Chapter 3,sloka 22. > > > > > > > > > > > > All must work if the lord of the cosmos has chosen to work. > > > Thus, > > > > > > there is nothing specific that only SUN AK has to " serve " , all > > > AKs > > > > > > " serve " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > But, are you implying that Sun AK gives a person akin to > > > Janaka?! > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, Sun AK gives a person akin to Janaka - jivanmukta - > > > provided > > > > > > enough effort has been put in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you determing dharma based on this? > > > > > > > > > > > > No, Sun AK need not be 9th lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will you advise Sun AK people to take Dhartharastra as an > > > example! > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > The attitude of service is seen from 6th house. Leo being a > > > dharma > > > > > > trikona sign fulfills its purpose of service through 10th > > > house of > > > > > > Artha, which is 6th from it. So a Sun AK should learn > > > principles of > > > > > > artha shastra to serve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, again, what Raja will hardly ever do is serving. > > > > > > > > > > > > All souls have to " Serve " only as there is nothing else to be > > > done > > > > > > in the three worlds because Krishna has already achieved > > > everything > > > > > > that is there to achieve in the three worlds(refer Gita). > > > Those who > > > > > > do not serve, are reborn to learn to serve, whatever be their > > > AK. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda` s Dharm bhava lord was Sun AK in lagna in > > > Dhanus > > > > > > > (extraordinary combination for unselfish giving by itself). > > > > > > > But do you think it`s a coincidence that His Master had > > > exalted > > > > > > Saturn in 9th > > > > > > > bhava and Rahu AK? What do you think, why even Swami needed > > > these? > > > > > > > > > > > > One is not re-born after exhausting his karma/desires. Thus, > > > > > > vivekananda (Rahu PiK) came here to exhaust his remaining > > > karma/ > > > > > > desires with Ramakrishna (Rahu AK). There is no more substance > > > to > > > > > > this than a past-life karmic relationship of the two which > > > continued > > > > > > in this birth also. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > NITISH > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, " tijana " <nix_nixen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > Dear Nitish, > > > > > > > Your elaboration would be even more brilliant if you had > > > just answer > > > > > > > my question. > > > > > > > To fulfill ones own dharma is what you probably had in mind > > > > > > mentioning > > > > > > > Gita in this context. But, are you implying that Sun AK > > > gives a > > > > > > > person akin to Janaka?! Are you determing dharma based on > > > this? Will > > > > > > > you advise Sun AK people to take Dhartharastra as an > > > example! > > > > > > > So, again, what Raja will hardly ever do is serving. > > > > > > > Swami Vivekananda` s Dharm bhava lord was Sun AK in lagna in > > > Dhanus > > > > > > > (extraordinary combination for unselfish giving by itself). > > > But do > > > > > > you > > > > > > > think it`s a coincidence that His Master had exalted Saturn > > > in 9th > > > > > > > bhava and Rahu AK? What do you think, why even Swami needed > > > these? > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the thing that Raja will hardly ever do? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read up Gita, arthashastra and ancient texts that show > > > what > > > > > > all a > > > > > > > > Raja has to do to ensure that his subjects are protected > > > and > > > > > > progress > > > > > > > > on the upward evolutionary path. Look at krishna, Janaka > > > and > > > > > > > > ChandraGupta Maurya and you will understand whatever > > > that " hardly > > > > > > > > ever do " equates to. > > > > > > > > Otherwise, going by your statement, AK wouldn't do > > > anything > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > the king of the horoscope and the rest of the karakas (BK, > > > PiK, > > > > > > Puk, > > > > > > > > GK) i.e. his subjects will follow the suit! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, the mantra is " Shiva jnane Jiva Seva " (serving > > > every > > > > > > > > being as the full manifestation of God) that Narendranath > > > > > > received > > > > > > > > from his Master Ramakrishna who had Sun in Aquarius. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Being Sun AK, Vivekananda had developed peculiar sharpness > > > of > > > > > > > > perception and assimilation that empowered him with > > > unusual power > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > pick up 'the gems' from the talks of his Master. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Sun in Sagittarius, he could, as compared to others, > > > > > > easily > > > > > > > > 'see' the deep meaning in the words of Sri Ramakrishna, > > > even > > > > > > though > > > > > > > > the Master told them in simple language (Aq Sun), and > > > never as > > > > > > > > preaching. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With its dispositor Jupiter in Libra, gradually Swami > > > > > > Vivekananda > > > > > > > > started assimilating tips and hints on practical Vedanta > > > that > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > benefit individual and collective life in the society. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " ...For spiritual persons Sun as AK should be in > > > Jupiter`s > > > > > > signs > > > > > > > > > (Shiva jnane...), otherwise it`s very hard task... " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Putting up statements like you have done is not wise. Sri > > > > > > Yukteswar > > > > > > > > Giri, has Sun AK placed in Aries and had attained highest > > > level > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > spirituality. Even if Sun AK is placed in Libra, it could > > > be the > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > spiritual person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AK shows the spiritual power of a sign over the rest of > > > the > > > > > > signs/ > > > > > > > > planets in the chart and this spiritual power manifests > > > through > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > dispositor of AK and its sign placement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > NITISH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, " tijana " <nix_nixen@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > Dear Su, > > > > > > > > > Sun is the Self. Its qualities are those of Raja (karaka > > > for > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > first house, lord of the 5th, dig bala in 10th). What is > > > the > > > > > > thing > > > > > > > > > that Raja will hardly ever do? The lesson that has to be > > > learnt > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > Sun AK is serving, in the highest sence it gives " Shiva > > > jnane > > > > > > Shiva > > > > > > > > > seva " (service of man as God)-the divine lesson given to > > > us by > > > > > > > > Swami > > > > > > > > > Vivekananda (Sun AK). For spiritual persons Sun as AK > > > should be > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > Jupiter`s signs (Shiva jnane...), otherwise it`s very > > > hard task. > > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, " v reality " <reality_v@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bojan-ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your reply. Much appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > If I may ask another query re Sun AK. The lesson to be > > > > > > learnt > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > Sun AK, > > > > > > > > > > is the reduction of ego. Can this also be understood > > > at a > > > > > > > > > different level > > > > > > > > > > as the effacement of 'self' in a spiritual sense? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Bojan Vidakovic <janbovid@> > > > > > > > > > > >sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > >sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > >Re: Jupiter as AK > > > > > > > > > > >Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:33:22 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Su > > > > > > > > > > >I would add that with Gu AK person have to be very > > > humble to > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > spiritual > > > > > > > > > > >techers and natives, like priests, gurus, teachers. > > > With Ma > > > > > > AK > > > > > > > > > person must > > > > > > > > > > >practise Ahumsa (nonviolence) , with Ch the native is > > > always > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > > caring, > > > > > > > > > > >and gives emotions but the problem is that they never > > > get > > > > > > enough > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > >themselves from other people. The person must learn > > > lessons > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > from the > > > > > > > > > > >people represented with AK. Ch / mother, Sy / father > > > and > > > > > > > > > everything those > > > > > > > > > > >grahas represent. > > > > > > > > > > >Take few examples of people you know and see it in > > > praxix. > > > > > > Best > > > > > > > > > wishes, > > > > > > > > > > >Bojan > > > > > > > > > > >Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Su, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Person should use a lot of glass and sing/hum > > > melodies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > v reality napisał(a): Dear Rafalji/Members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is an interesting discussion. Could we discuss > > > other > > > > > > AKs > > > > > > > > > too. I read > > > > > > > > > > > in an article that natives with Moon as AK need to > > > learn > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > >caring > > > > > > > > > > > and loving to others. But I know of a chart where > > > the > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > > >by > > > > > > > > > > > nature very caring, loving and concerned about > > > others > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > young. So > > > > > > > > > > >what > > > > > > > > > > > is the lesson to be learnt? > > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > > > > > > > > > > > >sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > >sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > >Re: Jupiter as AK > > > > > > > > > > > >Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:24:14 +0200 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear LN Kumar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >With Ju AK person should learn to respect others > > > > > > knowledge > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > >tradition, > > > > > > > > > > > >should be ready to learn from others. When Ju is in > > > > > > kendra to > > > > > > > > > AK or is > > > > > > > > > > >AK > > > > > > > > > > > >himself then native thinks that he knows everything > > > and > > > > > > now > > > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > can share > > > > > > > > > > > >His knowledge with everybody. Good teachers of > > > course > > > > > > comes > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > >AK-Jupiter- Natives, as this graha will be > > > naturally in > > > > > > > > > Karakamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >With MA AK person should learn to catalyze energies > > > > > > through > > > > > > > > > ZEN, TAI-CHI > > > > > > > > > > >or > > > > > > > > > > > >other techniques, while with JU AK person should > > > learn to > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > more humble > > > > > > > > > > > >regarding knowledge. Of course person can be > > > focused on > > > > > > > > Jupiter- > > > > > > > > > karakas > > > > > > > > > > > >like kids, spirituality, law, luck etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Mahadasa of AK brings lesson to us so its not so > > > easy > > > > > > > > > materially but > > > > > > > > > > > >inspiring spiritually, so if Surya is in good > > > placement > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > AK > > > > > > > > > then it > > > > > > > > > > >can > > > > > > > > > > > >be not so bad as person is spiritual. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > >Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > >Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > > > >email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > > >Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >narender kumar napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>Dear Gurujans, > > > > > > > > > > > >>Kindly throw some light on Jupiter as > > > > > > > > > > > >>Atmakaraka and having Jupiter as mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>Respectful Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > >>LN Kumar > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>__________ __ _________ _________ _________ > > > _________ > > > > > > > > > _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > > >>Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the > > > Internet in > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > pocket: > > > > > > > > > > >mail, > > > > > > > > > > > >>news, photos & more. > > > > > > > > > > > >>http://mobile. / go?refer= 1GNXIC > > > > > > > > > > > >><http://mobile. / go?refer= 1GNXIC> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > > > > > > _________ > > > > > > > > _ > > > > > > > > > > > Advertisement: It's simple! 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Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Naliniji, If you say you have a very good voice. I was expecting your moon to be in trines or have a relation with the Navamsa Lagna. How accurate is your time?. Warm Regards Sanjay P Nalini Natal Chart February 28, 1960Time: 14:42:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 80 E 17' 00 " , 13 N 05' 00 " Chennai, India Altitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Vikari - PhalgunaTithi: Sukla Dwitiya (Mo) (29.96% left)Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)Nakshatra: Uttarabhadra (Sa) (80.69% left)Yoga: Sadhya (Ve) ( 14.41% left)Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (59.93% left)Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Sg)Mahakala Hora: Venus (5 min sign: Ar)Kaala Lord: Saturn (Mahakala: Saturn) Sunrise: 6:29:38Sunset: 18:13:59Janma Ghatis: 20.5153 Ayanamsa: 23-18-00.86Sidereal Time: 1:01:57 Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa Lagna 25 Ge 59' 55.36 " Puna 2 Ge TaSun - MK 15 Aq 30' 13.41 " Sata 3 Aq AqMoon - GK 5 Pi 54' 29.19 " UBha 1 Pi LeMars - PiK 10 Cp 40' 50.08 " Srav 1 Cp ArMercury - DK 2 Pi 10' 03.10 " PBha 4 Pi CnJupiter - PK 6 Sg 24' 08.22 " Mool 2 Sg Ta Venus - BK 16 Cp 09' 31.96 " Srav 2 Cp TaSaturn - AmK 22 Sg 25' 31.59 " PSha 3 Sg LiRahu - AK 2 Vi 20' 02.20 " UPha 2 Vi CpKetu 2 Pi 20' 02.20 " PBha 4 Pi CnMaandi 14 Cn 14' 43.52 " Push 4 Cn ScGulika 4 Cn 09' 01.82 " Push 1 Cn LeBhava Lagna 18 Ge 15' 08.01 " Ardr 4 Ge PiHora Lagna 21 Li 20' 39.36 " Visa 1 Li ArGhati Lagna 0 Sc 37' 13.43 " Visa 4 Sc CnVighati Lagna 17 Sg 00' 03.76 " PSha 2 Sg Vi Varnada Lagna 25 Cp 59' 55.36 " Aswi 1 Cp GeSree Lagna 5 Vi 31' 03.53 " UPha 3 Vi AqPranapada Lagna 17 Le 20' 40.52 " PPha 2 Le ViIndu Lagna 5 Vi 54' 29.19 " UPha 3 Vi AqDhooma 28 Ge 50' 13.41 " Puna 3 Ge GeVyatipata 1 Cp 09' 46.59 " USha 2 Cp CpParivesha 1 Cn 09' 46.59 " Puna 4 Cn CnIndra Chapa 28 Sg 50' 13.41 " USha 1 Sg SgUpaketu 15 Cp 30' 13.41 " Srav 2 Cp TaKaala 28 Aq 20' 32.96 " PBha 3 Aq Ge Mrityu 20 Ar 11' 11.96 " Bhar 3 Ar LiArtha Prahara 13 Ta 05' 34.54 " Rohi 1 Ta ArYama Ghantaka 4 Ge 05' 29.21 " Mrig 4 Ge ScPrana Sphuta 14 Vi 08' 38.61 " Hast 2 Vi TaDeha Sphuta 21 Sg 24' 55.36 " PSha 3 Sg LiMrityu Sphuta 14 Sg 33' 26.18 " PSha 1 Sg LeSookshma TriSphuta 20 Aq 07' 00.15 " PBha 1 Aq ArTriSphuta 6 Vi 03' 26.37 " UPha 3 Vi AqChatusSphuta 21 Cn 33' 39.78 " Asre 2 Cn CpPanchaSphuta 23 Sg 53' 41.98 " PSha 4 Sg Sc Kunda 5 Le 53' 43.96 " Magh 2 Le Ta +--------------+|Mo Me | | |As ||Ke | | | || | | | | | | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Su | |Md Gk || | | | | | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||Ma Ve | | | | | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------| |Ju Sa |GL |HL |Ra AL || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | | +--------------+ +--------------+| |Ma HL |As Ju | || | |Ve | | | | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Su AL | |Me Ke | | | |GL || | | || | | || | Navamsa | ||-----------| |-----------| |Ra | D-9 |Mo Gk || | | || | | || | | || | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |Md |Sa | || | | | || | | | || | | | | | | | | |+--------------+ On 8/31/07, nalini swamy <nalini2818 wrote: Hare Rama Krsna Dear Tijana ji, Namaskar. How true... My chart has Jupiter and Saturn in 7th in Dhanus. Not a day passes without my analysing whay and how's of my thoughts and actions. Guru is Paka Lagnesh, my LL deb ,Budha in Meena with Chandra and Ketu. Rahu is my AK and I welcomed all the experiences life has given me and have grown the better for those. I did always wonder when laughter rang out as to why I never did feel 'that' kind of a joy. I now do after all those experiences, that joy in the green meadows, blue waters and the sky, Mother Nature and in singing to the Divine which gives me Ananda beyond description. I always wondered why inspite of being blessed with a very good voice, musical talent have never made it as a profession?? I now realise it was for me to sing and experience 'that' bliss which is incomparable. My birth details are; 28th February, 1960, 14:42 hrs, Madras, India. Regards Nalini tijanadamjanovic < nix_nixensohamsa Friday, 31 August, 2007 6:03:19 AM Introspection Om Gurave NamahDear Promila,Just pointing the one who is responsible for introspection and deepthinking.Look for the formations of Brahma yoga in your chart as theassociation of Jupiter and Saturn gives the ability for deep thinking. Brahma implies going to the very bottom or the very beginning. Jupiterin Kumbha is also a blessing for this.If however, this feature of the mind tends to torment you creating atension, check up for the afflictions of Mercury and Moon, possible conjuction or mutual aspect of these two... What will give the real meaning to every thinking and make it usefulis Jupiter as karaka for dhi and paka lagna. If lagna doesn`tcooperate with Jupiter all thinking becomes meaningless. Warm regards,Tijana .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Hare Rama Krsna Dear Sanjay ji, I have wondered about it too because I have been suffering froma chronic debilitating disease of the lung for the last 6 years which remained undiagnosed for over 4 years. Rahu is in 9th in my D9, I would have expected a 8th house placement. My birthtime was recorded by my grand father.There are 2 different times we discovered in the diary. one was 14.48. My mother is also not sure of the correctness. It could be on or off by a few minutes. I have also tried to reason it out as I amnot equipped yet to set out to rectify it. I have worked in a senior position in a bank in India and faced innumerable challenges, financial frauds etc. I have emerged unscathed from it all due to The Mother's Grace. I am now abroad. I am now studying HRMgmt and Nursing( Moon in D24 is in a dusthana) . I am really very fortunate to have been gifted a voice that professional singers would die for ,I sing with a lot of emotion, and more devotionally inclined rather than towards the scientific intricacies. I am not too very keen on the tala aspect too. Most of it has been not through formal learning but through listening. My music is also very appealing emotionally to the listeners. I have given a few public performances though and sung on the radio(AIR). But I have found a lot of solace and succor from singing to the Divine audience and is far too fulfilling. I am very good at grammar, philosophy, reading and writing, administration. My time management is very bad and inspite of my best efforts almost never make it on time or mostly make it to the deadline. I am good at cooking bad at sports. Good with numbers yet not very good (do not like)at the mathematics stuff. I have two sons, married on 9th May 1984. So many factors seem paradoxical and I have always remained not very sure of my birth time. I would be grateful if this could be resolved and also be a learning experience for me. Regards Nalini Sanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiarsohamsa Sent: Saturday, 1 September, 2007 5:56:26 AMRe: Introspection || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Naliniji, If you say you have a very good voice. I was expecting your moon to be in trines or have a relation with the Navamsa Lagna. How accurate is your time?. Warm Regards Sanjay P Nalini Natal Chart February 28, 1960Time: 14:42:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 80 E 17' 00", 13 N 05' 00" Chennai, India Altitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Vikari - PhalgunaTithi: Sukla Dwitiya (Mo) (29.96% left)Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)Nakshatra: Uttarabhadra (Sa) (80.69% left)Yoga: Sadhya (Ve) ( 14.41% left)Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (59.93% left)Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Sg)Mahakala Hora: Venus (5 min sign: Ar)Kaala Lord: Saturn (Mahakala: Saturn) Sunrise: 6:29:38Sunset: 18:13:59Janma Ghatis: 20.5153 Ayanamsa: 23-18-00.86Sidereal Time: 1:01:57 Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa Lagna 25 Ge 59' 55.36" Puna 2 Ge TaSun - MK 15 Aq 30' 13.41" Sata 3 Aq AqMoon - GK 5 Pi 54' 29.19 " UBha 1 Pi LeMars - PiK 10 Cp 40' 50.08" Srav 1 Cp ArMercury - DK 2 Pi 10' 03.10" PBha 4 Pi CnJupiter - PK 6 Sg 24' 08.22" Mool 2 Sg Ta Venus - BK 16 Cp 09' 31.96" Srav 2 Cp TaSaturn - AmK 22 Sg 25' 31.59" PSha 3 Sg LiRahu - AK 2 Vi 20' 02.20" UPha 2 Vi CpKetu 2 Pi 20' 02.20" PBha 4 Pi CnMaandi 14 Cn 14' 43.52" Push 4 Cn ScGulika 4 Cn 09' 01.82" Push 1 Cn LeBhava Lagna 18 Ge 15' 08.01 " Ardr 4 Ge PiHora Lagna 21 Li 20' 39.36" Visa 1 Li ArGhati Lagna 0 Sc 37' 13.43" Visa 4 Sc CnVighati Lagna 17 Sg 00' 03.76" PSha 2 Sg Vi Varnada Lagna 25 Cp 59' 55.36" Aswi 1 Cp GeSree Lagna 5 Vi 31' 03.53" UPha 3 Vi AqPranapada Lagna 17 Le 20' 40.52" PPha 2 Le ViIndu Lagna 5 Vi 54' 29.19" UPha 3 Vi AqDhooma 28 Ge 50' 13.41" Puna 3 Ge GeVyatipata 1 Cp 09' 46.59" USha 2 Cp CpParivesha 1 Cn 09' 46.59 " Puna 4 Cn CnIndra Chapa 28 Sg 50' 13.41" USha 1 Sg SgUpaketu 15 Cp 30' 13.41" Srav 2 Cp TaKaala 28 Aq 20' 32.96" PBha 3 Aq Ge Mrityu 20 Ar 11' 11.96" Bhar 3 Ar LiArtha Prahara 13 Ta 05' 34.54" Rohi 1 Ta ArYama Ghantaka 4 Ge 05' 29.21" Mrig 4 Ge ScPrana Sphuta 14 Vi 08' 38.61" Hast 2 Vi TaDeha Sphuta 21 Sg 24' 55.36" PSha 3 Sg LiMrityu Sphuta 14 Sg 33' 26.18" PSha 1 Sg LeSookshma TriSphuta 20 Aq 07' 00.15 " PBha 1 Aq ArTriSphuta 6 Vi 03' 26.37" UPha 3 Vi AqChatusSphuta 21 Cn 33' 39.78" Asre 2 Cn CpPanchaSphuta 23 Sg 53' 41.98" PSha 4 Sg Sc Kunda 5 Le 53' 43.96" Magh 2 Le Ta +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +|Mo Me | | |As ||Ke | | | || | | | | | | | | || | | | ||----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- ||Su | |Md Gk || | | | | | | || | | || | | ||----------- | Rasi |----------- ||Ma Ve | | | | | | || | | || | | || | | ||----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- | |Ju Sa |GL |HL |Ra AL || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | | +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +| |Ma HL |As Ju | || | |Ve | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- ||Su AL | |Me Ke | | | |GL || | | || | | || | Navamsa | ||----------- | |----------- | |Ra | D-9 |Mo Gk || | | || | | || | | || | | | |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- || |Md |Sa | || | | | || | | | || | | | | | | | | |+----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + On 8/31/07, nalini swamy <nalini2818 > wrote: Hare Rama Krsna Dear Tijana ji, Namaskar. How true... My chart has Jupiter and Saturn in 7th in Dhanus. Not a day passes without my analysing whay and how's of my thoughts and actions. Guru is Paka Lagnesh, my LL deb ,Budha in Meena with Chandra and Ketu. Rahu is my AK and I welcomed all the experiences life has given me and have grown the better for those. I did always wonder when laughter rang out as to why I never did feel 'that' kind of a joy. I now do after all those experiences, that joy in the green meadows, blue waters and the sky, Mother Nature and in singing to the Divine which gives me Ananda beyond description. I always wondered why inspite of being blessed with a very good voice, musical talent have never made it as a profession?? I now realise it was for me to sing and experience 'that' bliss which is incomparable. My birth details are; 28th February, 1960, 14:42 hrs, Madras, India. Regards Nalini tijanadamjanovic < nix_nixen >sohamsa@ .com Friday, 31 August, 2007 6:03:19 AM Introspection Om Gurave NamahDear Promila,Just pointing the one who is responsible for introspection and deepthinking.Look for the formations of Brahma yoga in your chart as theassociation of Jupiter and Saturn gives the ability for deep thinking. Brahma implies going to the very bottom or the very beginning. Jupiterin Kumbha is also a blessing for this.If however, this feature of the mind tends to torment you creating atension, check up for the afflictions of Mercury and Moon, possible conjuction or mutual aspect of these two... What will give the real meaning to every thinking and make it usefulis Jupiter as karaka for dhi and paka lagna. If lagna doesn`tcooperate with Jupiter all thinking becomes meaningless. Warm regards,Tijana .. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Naliniji, I would think your Navamsa Lagna is Aries with moon in 5th and aspected by Sun from Aq. Mars and Saturn in 1-7 could have made you undergo many troubles to get married? You would still need to work out the other divisional charts. Warm Regards Sanjay P On 8/31/07, nalini swamy <nalini2818 wrote: Hare Rama Krsna Dear Sanjay ji, I have wondered about it too because I have been suffering froma chronic debilitating disease of the lung for the last 6 years which remained undiagnosed for over 4 years. Rahu is in 9th in my D9, I would have expected a 8th house placement. My birthtime was recorded by my grand father.There are 2 different times we discovered in the diary. one was 14.48. My mother is also not sure of the correctness. It could be on or off by a few minutes. I have also tried to reason it out as I amnot equipped yet to set out to rectify it. I have worked in a senior position in a bank in India and faced innumerable challenges, financial frauds etc. I have emerged unscathed from it all due to The Mother's Grace. I am now abroad. I am now studying HRMgmt and Nursing( Moon in D24 is in a dusthana) . I am really very fortunate to have been gifted a voice that professional singers would die for ,I sing with a lot of emotion, and more devotionally inclined rather than towards the scientific intricacies. I am not too very keen on the tala aspect too. Most of it has been not through formal learning but through listening. My music is also very appealing emotionally to the listeners. I have given a few public performances though and sung on the radio(AIR). But I have found a lot of solace and succor from singing to the Divine audience and is far too fulfilling. I am very good at grammar, philosophy, reading and writing, administration. My time management is very bad and inspite of my best efforts almost never make it on time or mostly make it to the deadline. I am good at cooking bad at sports. Good with numbers yet not very good (do not like)at the mathematics stuff. I have two sons, married on 9th May 1984. So many factors seem paradoxical and I have always remained not very sure of my birth time. I would be grateful if this could be resolved and also be a learning experience for me. Regards Nalini Sanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiar@ gmail.com>sohamsa Saturday, 1 September, 2007 5:56:26 AMRe: Introspection || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Naliniji, If you say you have a very good voice. I was expecting your moon to be in trines or have a relation with the Navamsa Lagna. How accurate is your time?. Warm Regards Sanjay P Nalini Natal Chart February 28, 1960Time: 14:42:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 80 E 17' 00 " , 13 N 05' 00 " Chennai, India Altitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Vikari - PhalgunaTithi: Sukla Dwitiya (Mo) (29.96% left)Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)Nakshatra: Uttarabhadra (Sa) (80.69% left)Yoga: Sadhya (Ve) ( 14.41% left)Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (59.93% left)Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Sg)Mahakala Hora: Venus (5 min sign: Ar)Kaala Lord: Saturn (Mahakala: Saturn) Sunrise: 6:29:38Sunset: 18:13:59Janma Ghatis: 20.5153 Ayanamsa: 23-18-00.86Sidereal Time: 1:01:57 Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa Lagna 25 Ge 59' 55.36 " Puna 2 Ge TaSun - MK 15 Aq 30' 13.41 " Sata 3 Aq AqMoon - GK 5 Pi 54' 29.19 " UBha 1 Pi LeMars - PiK 10 Cp 40' 50.08 " Srav 1 Cp ArMercury - DK 2 Pi 10' 03.10 " PBha 4 Pi CnJupiter - PK 6 Sg 24' 08.22 " Mool 2 Sg Ta Venus - BK 16 Cp 09' 31.96 " Srav 2 Cp TaSaturn - AmK 22 Sg 25' 31.59 " PSha 3 Sg LiRahu - AK 2 Vi 20' 02.20 " UPha 2 Vi CpKetu 2 Pi 20' 02.20 " PBha 4 Pi CnMaandi 14 Cn 14' 43.52 " Push 4 Cn ScGulika 4 Cn 09' 01.82 " Push 1 Cn LeBhava Lagna 18 Ge 15' 08.01 " Ardr 4 Ge PiHora Lagna 21 Li 20' 39.36 " Visa 1 Li ArGhati Lagna 0 Sc 37' 13.43 " Visa 4 Sc CnVighati Lagna 17 Sg 00' 03.76 " PSha 2 Sg Vi Varnada Lagna 25 Cp 59' 55.36 " Aswi 1 Cp GeSree Lagna 5 Vi 31' 03.53 " UPha 3 Vi AqPranapada Lagna 17 Le 20' 40.52 " PPha 2 Le ViIndu Lagna 5 Vi 54' 29.19 " UPha 3 Vi AqDhooma 28 Ge 50' 13.41 " Puna 3 Ge GeVyatipata 1 Cp 09' 46.59 " USha 2 Cp CpParivesha 1 Cn 09' 46.59 " Puna 4 Cn CnIndra Chapa 28 Sg 50' 13.41 " USha 1 Sg SgUpaketu 15 Cp 30' 13.41 " Srav 2 Cp TaKaala 28 Aq 20' 32.96 " PBha 3 Aq Ge Mrityu 20 Ar 11' 11.96 " Bhar 3 Ar LiArtha Prahara 13 Ta 05' 34.54 " Rohi 1 Ta ArYama Ghantaka 4 Ge 05' 29.21 " Mrig 4 Ge ScPrana Sphuta 14 Vi 08' 38.61 " Hast 2 Vi TaDeha Sphuta 21 Sg 24' 55.36 " PSha 3 Sg LiMrityu Sphuta 14 Sg 33' 26.18 " PSha 1 Sg LeSookshma TriSphuta 20 Aq 07' 00.15 " PBha 1 Aq ArTriSphuta 6 Vi 03' 26.37 " UPha 3 Vi AqChatusSphuta 21 Cn 33' 39.78 " Asre 2 Cn CpPanchaSphuta 23 Sg 53' 41.98 " PSha 4 Sg Sc Kunda 5 Le 53' 43.96 " Magh 2 Le Ta +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +|Mo Me | | |As ||Ke | | | || | | | | | | | | || | | | ||----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- ||Su | |Md Gk | | | | | | | | || | | || | | ||----------- | Rasi |----------- | |Ma Ve | | | | | | || | | || | | || | | | |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- | |Ju Sa |GL |HL |Ra AL || | | | || | | | | | | | | || | | | | +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + | |Ma HL |As Ju | || | |Ve | || | | | || | | | || | | | | |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- ||Su AL | |Me Ke | | | |GL || | | | | | | || | Navamsa | ||----------- | |----------- | |Ra | D-9 |Mo Gk || | | | | | | || | | || | | | |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- | | |Md |Sa | || | | | || | | | || | | | | | | | | | +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + On 8/31/07, nalini swamy <nalini2818 > wrote: Hare Rama Krsna Dear Tijana ji, Namaskar. How true... My chart has Jupiter and Saturn in 7th in Dhanus. Not a day passes without my analysing whay and how's of my thoughts and actions. Guru is Paka Lagnesh, my LL deb ,Budha in Meena with Chandra and Ketu. Rahu is my AK and I welcomed all the experiences life has given me and have grown the better for those. I did always wonder when laughter rang out as to why I never did feel 'that' kind of a joy. I now do after all those experiences, that joy in the green meadows, blue waters and the sky, Mother Nature and in singing to the Divine which gives me Ananda beyond description. I always wondered why inspite of being blessed with a very good voice, musical talent have never made it as a profession?? I now realise it was for me to sing and experience 'that' bliss which is incomparable. My birth details are; 28th February, 1960, 14:42 hrs, Madras, India. Regards Nalini tijanadamjanovic < nix_nixen >sohamsa@ .com Friday, 31 August, 2007 6:03:19 AM Introspection Om Gurave NamahDear Promila,Just pointing the one who is responsible for introspection and deepthinking.Look for the formations of Brahma yoga in your chart as theassociation of Jupiter and Saturn gives the ability for deep thinking. Brahma implies going to the very bottom or the very beginning. Jupiterin Kumbha is also a blessing for this.If however, this feature of the mind tends to torment you creating atension, check up for the afflictions of Mercury and Moon, possible conjuction or mutual aspect of these two... What will give the real meaning to every thinking and make it usefulis Jupiter as karaka for dhi and paka lagna. If lagna doesn`tcooperate with Jupiter all thinking becomes meaningless. Warm regards,Tijana .. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Om namaste Ganapataye Dear Sanjay P, I think her navamsha lagna is mithuna, then Atmakaraka Rh would be in 8th bhava (AK in dusthana-she hes been suffering from serious health problems). Also, could Candra in 3rd give singing as a skill? What do you think? Best regards, Voja sohamsa , " Sanjay Prabhakaran " <sanjaychettiar wrote: > > || Om Gurave Namah || > Dear Naliniji, > I would think your Navamsa Lagna is Aries with moon in 5th and aspected by > Sun from Aq. Mars and Saturn in 1-7 could have made you undergo many > troubles to get married? > You would still need to work out the other divisional charts. > Warm Regards > Sanjay P > > > On 8/31/07, nalini swamy <nalini2818 wrote: > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > Dear Sanjay ji, > > > > > > > > I have wondered about it too because I have been suffering froma chronic > > debilitating disease of the lung for the last 6 years which remained > > undiagnosed for over 4 years. Rahu is in 9th in my D9, I would have expected > > a 8th house placement. My birthtime was recorded by my grand father.Thereare 2 different times we discovered in the diary. one was > > 14.48. My mother is also not sure of the correctness. It could be on or > > off by a few minutes. I have also tried to reason it out as I amnot equipped > > yet to set out to rectify it. I have worked in a senior position in a bank > > in India and faced innumerable challenges, financial frauds etc. I have > > emerged unscathed from it all due to The Mother's Grace. I am now abroad. I > > am now studying HRMgmt and Nursing( Moon in D24 is in a dusthana) .. I am > > really very fortunate to have been gifted a voice that professional singers > > would die for ,I sing with a lot of emotion, and more devotionally inclined > > rather than towards the scientific intricacies. I am not too very keen on > > the tala aspect too. Most of it has been not through formal learning but > > through listening. My music is also very appealing emotionally to the > > listeners. I have given a few public performances though and sung on the > > radio(AIR). But I have found a lot of solace and succor from singing to the > > Divine audience and is far too fulfilling. > > > > I am very good at grammar, philosophy, reading and writing, > > administration. My time management is very bad and inspite of my best > > efforts almost never make it on time or mostly make it to the deadline. I am > > good at cooking bad at sports. Good with numbers yet not very good (do not > > like)at the mathematics stuff. I have two sons, married on 9th May 1984. > > > > So many factors seem paradoxical and I have always remained not very sure > > of my birth time. > > > > > > > > I would be grateful if this could be resolved and also be a learning > > experience for me. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Nalini > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiar > > sohamsa > > Saturday, 1 September, 2007 5:56:26 AM > > Re: Introspection > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > Dear Naliniji, > > If you say you have a very good voice. I was expecting your moon to be in > > trines or have a relation with the Navamsa Lagna. How accurate is your > > time?. > > Warm Regards > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > Nalini > > > > Natal Chart > > > > February 28, 1960 > > Time: 14:42:00 > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 80 E 17' 00 " , 13 N 05' 00 " > > Chennai, India > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vikari - Phalguna > > Tithi: Sukla Dwitiya (Mo) (29.96% left) > > Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su) > > Nakshatra: Uttarabhadra (Sa) (80.69% left) > > Yoga: Sadhya (Ve) ( 14.41% left) > > Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (59.93% left) > > Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Sg) > > Mahakala Hora: Venus (5 min sign: Ar) > > Kaala Lord: Saturn (Mahakala: Saturn) > > > > Sunrise: 6:29:38 > > Sunset: 18:13:59 > > Janma Ghatis: 20.5153 > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-18-00.86 > > Sidereal Time: 1:01:57 > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > Lagna 25 Ge 59' 55.36 " Puna 2 Ge Ta > > Sun - MK 15 Aq 30' 13.41 " Sata 3 Aq Aq > > Moon - GK 5 Pi 54' 29.19 " UBha 1 Pi Le > > Mars - PiK 10 Cp 40' 50.08 " Srav 1 Cp Ar > > Mercury - DK 2 Pi 10' 03.10 " PBha 4 Pi Cn > > Jupiter - PK 6 Sg 24' 08.22 " Mool 2 Sg Ta > > Venus - BK 16 Cp 09' 31.96 " Srav 2 Cp Ta > > Saturn - AmK 22 Sg 25' 31.59 " PSha 3 Sg Li > > Rahu - AK 2 Vi 20' 02.20 " UPha 2 Vi Cp > > Ketu 2 Pi 20' 02.20 " PBha 4 Pi Cn > > Maandi 14 Cn 14' 43.52 " Push 4 Cn Sc > > Gulika 4 Cn 09' 01.82 " Push 1 Cn Le > > Bhava Lagna 18 Ge 15' 08.01 " Ardr 4 Ge Pi > > Hora Lagna 21 Li 20' 39.36 " Visa 1 Li Ar > > Ghati Lagna 0 Sc 37' 13.43 " Visa 4 Sc Cn > > Vighati Lagna 17 Sg 00' 03.76 " PSha 2 Sg Vi > > Varnada Lagna 25 Cp 59' 55.36 " Aswi 1 Cp Ge > > Sree Lagna 5 Vi 31' 03.53 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > Pranapada Lagna 17 Le 20' 40.52 " PPha 2 Le Vi > > Indu Lagna 5 Vi 54' 29.19 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > Dhooma 28 Ge 50' 13.41 " Puna 3 Ge Ge > > Vyatipata 1 Cp 09' 46.59 " USha 2 Cp Cp > > Parivesha 1 Cn 09' 46.59 " Puna 4 Cn Cn > > Indra Chapa 28 Sg 50' 13.41 " USha 1 Sg Sg > > Upaketu 15 Cp 30' 13.41 " Srav 2 Cp Ta > > Kaala 28 Aq 20' 32.96 " PBha 3 Aq Ge > > Mrityu 20 Ar 11' 11.96 " Bhar 3 Ar Li > > Artha Prahara 13 Ta 05' 34.54 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar > > Yama Ghantaka 4 Ge 05' 29.21 " Mrig 4 Ge Sc > > Prana Sphuta 14 Vi 08' 38.61 " Hast 2 Vi Ta > > Deha Sphuta 21 Sg 24' 55.36 " PSha 3 Sg Li > > Mrityu Sphuta 14 Sg 33' 26.18 " PSha 1 Sg Le > > Sookshma TriSphuta 20 Aq 07' 00.15 " PBha 1 Aq Ar > > TriSphuta 6 Vi 03' 26.37 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > ChatusSphuta 21 Cn 33' 39.78 " Asre 2 Cn Cp > > PanchaSphuta 23 Sg 53' 41.98 " PSha 4 Sg Sc > > Kunda 5 Le 53' 43.96 " Magh 2 Le Ta > > > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > |Mo Me | | |As | > > |Ke | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- | > > |Su | |Md Gk | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |----------- | Rasi |----------- | > > |Ma Ve | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- | > > |Ju Sa |GL |HL |Ra AL | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > | |Ma HL |As Ju | | > > | | |Ve | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- | > > |Su AL | |Me Ke | > > | | |GL | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | Navamsa | | > > |----------- | |----------- | > > |Ra | D-9 |Mo Gk | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- | > > | |Md |Sa | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > > > > > On 8/31/07, nalini swamy <nalini2818 <nalini2818> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > Dear Tijana ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > How true... My chart has Jupiter and Saturn in 7th in Dhanus. Not a day > > > passes without my analysing whay and how's of my thoughts and actions. Guru > > > is Paka Lagnesh, my LL deb ,Budha in Meena with Chandra and Ketu. Rahu is my > > > AK and I welcomed all the experiences life has given me and have grown the > > > better for those. I did always wonder when laughter rang out as to why I > > > never did feel 'that' kind of a joy. I now do after all those experiences, > > > that joy in the green meadows, blue waters and the sky, Mother Nature and in > > > singing to the Divine which gives me Ananda beyond description. I always > > > wondered why inspite of being blessed with a very good voice, musical talent > > > have never made it as a profession?? I now realise it was for me to sing and > > > experience 'that' bliss which is incomparable. > > > > > > > > > > > > My birth details are; 28th February, 1960, 14:42 hrs, Madras, India. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Nalini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic < nix_nixen <nix_nixen> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa > > > > Friday, 31 August, 2007 6:03:19 AM > > > Introspection > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > Dear Promila, > > > Just pointing the one who is responsible for introspection and deep > > > thinking. > > > Look for the formations of Brahma yoga in your chart as the > > > association of Jupiter and Saturn gives the ability for deep thinking. > > > Brahma implies going to the very bottom or the very beginning. Jupiter > > > in Kumbha is also a blessing for this. > > > If however, this feature of the mind tends to torment you creating a > > > tension, check up for the afflictions of Mercury and Moon, possible > > > conjuction or mutual aspect of these two... > > > What will give the real meaning to every thinking and make it useful > > > is Jupiter as karaka for dhi and paka lagna. If lagna doesn`t > > > cooperate with Jupiter all thinking becomes meaningless. > > > Warm regards, > > > Tijana > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Voya,3rd house shows more skill with the hands, and as singing is not done with the hands it is unlikely that Moon in 3rd would give this ability. This is mentioned in JUS.Respectfully,MichalVoya Traykovic <vojatrajanandasohamsa Sent: Friday, September 7, 2007 12:52:05 PM Re: Introspection Om namaste Ganapataye Dear Sanjay P, I think her navamsha lagna is mithuna, then Atmakaraka Rh would be in 8th bhava (AK in dusthana-she hes been suffering from serious health problems). Also, could Candra in 3rd give singing as a skill? What do you think? Best regards, Voja sohamsa@ .com, "Sanjay Prabhakaran" <sanjaychettiar@ ...> wrote: > > || Om Gurave Namah || > Dear Naliniji, > I would think your Navamsa Lagna is Aries with moon in 5th and aspected by > Sun from Aq. Mars and Saturn in 1-7 could have made you undergo many > troubles to get married? > You would still need to work out the other divisional charts. > Warm Regards > Sanjay P > > > On 8/31/07, nalini swamy <nalini2818@ ...> wrote: > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > Dear Sanjay ji, > > > > > > > > I have wondered about it too because I have been suffering froma chronic > > debilitating disease of the lung for the last 6 years which remained > > undiagnosed for over 4 years. Rahu is in 9th in my D9, I would have expected > > a 8th house placement. My birthtime was recorded by my grand father.Thereare 2 different times we discovered in the diary. one was > > 14.48. My mother is also not sure of the correctness. It could be on or > > off by a few minutes. I have also tried to reason it out as I amnot equipped > > yet to set out to rectify it. I have worked in a senior position in a bank > > in India and faced innumerable challenges, financial frauds etc. I have > > emerged unscathed from it all due to The Mother's Grace. I am now abroad. I > > am now studying HRMgmt and Nursing( Moon in D24 is in a dusthana) .. I am > > really very fortunate to have been gifted a voice that professional singers > > would die for ,I sing with a lot of emotion, and more devotionally inclined > > rather than towards the scientific intricacies. I am not too very keen on > > the tala aspect too. Most of it has been not through formal learning but > > through listening. My music is also very appealing emotionally to the > > listeners. I have given a few public performances though and sung on the > > radio(AIR). But I have found a lot of solace and succor from singing to the > > Divine audience and is far too fulfilling. > > > > I am very good at grammar, philosophy, reading and writing, > > administration. My time management is very bad and inspite of my best > > efforts almost never make it on time or mostly make it to the deadline. I am > > good at cooking bad at sports. Good with numbers yet not very good (do not > > like)at the mathematics stuff. I have two sons, married on 9th May 1984. > > > > So many factors seem paradoxical and I have always remained not very sure > > of my birth time. > > > > > > > > I would be grateful if this could be resolved and also be a learning > > experience for me. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Nalini > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiar@ ...> > > sohamsa@ .com > > Saturday, 1 September, 2007 5:56:26 AM > > Re: Introspection > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > Dear Naliniji, > > If you say you have a very good voice. I was expecting your moon to be in > > trines or have a relation with the Navamsa Lagna. How accurate is your > > time?. > > Warm Regards > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > Nalini > > > > Natal Chart > > > > February 28, 1960 > > Time: 14:42:00 > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 80 E 17' 00", 13 N 05' 00" > > Chennai, India > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vikari - Phalguna > > Tithi: Sukla Dwitiya (Mo) (29.96% left) > > Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su) > > Nakshatra: Uttarabhadra (Sa) (80.69% left) > > Yoga: Sadhya (Ve) ( 14.41% left) > > Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (59.93% left) > > Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Sg) > > Mahakala Hora: Venus (5 min sign: Ar) > > Kaala Lord: Saturn (Mahakala: Saturn) > > > > Sunrise: 6:29:38 > > Sunset: 18:13:59 > > Janma Ghatis: 20.5153 > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-18-00.86 > > Sidereal Time: 1:01:57 > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > Lagna 25 Ge 59' 55.36" Puna 2 Ge Ta > > Sun - MK 15 Aq 30' 13.41" Sata 3 Aq Aq > > Moon - GK 5 Pi 54' 29.19 " UBha 1 Pi Le > > Mars - PiK 10 Cp 40' 50.08" Srav 1 Cp Ar > > Mercury - DK 2 Pi 10' 03.10" PBha 4 Pi Cn > > Jupiter - PK 6 Sg 24' 08.22" Mool 2 Sg Ta > > Venus - BK 16 Cp 09' 31.96" Srav 2 Cp Ta > > Saturn - AmK 22 Sg 25' 31.59" PSha 3 Sg Li > > Rahu - AK 2 Vi 20' 02.20" UPha 2 Vi Cp > > Ketu 2 Pi 20' 02.20" PBha 4 Pi Cn > > Maandi 14 Cn 14' 43.52" Push 4 Cn Sc > > Gulika 4 Cn 09' 01.82" Push 1 Cn Le > > Bhava Lagna 18 Ge 15' 08.01 " Ardr 4 Ge Pi > > Hora Lagna 21 Li 20' 39.36" Visa 1 Li Ar > > Ghati Lagna 0 Sc 37' 13.43" Visa 4 Sc Cn > > Vighati Lagna 17 Sg 00' 03.76" PSha 2 Sg Vi > > Varnada Lagna 25 Cp 59' 55.36" Aswi 1 Cp Ge > > Sree Lagna 5 Vi 31' 03.53" UPha 3 Vi Aq > > Pranapada Lagna 17 Le 20' 40.52" PPha 2 Le Vi > > Indu Lagna 5 Vi 54' 29.19" UPha 3 Vi Aq > > Dhooma 28 Ge 50' 13.41" Puna 3 Ge Ge > > Vyatipata 1 Cp 09' 46.59" USha 2 Cp Cp > > Parivesha 1 Cn 09' 46.59 " Puna 4 Cn Cn > > Indra Chapa 28 Sg 50' 13.41" USha 1 Sg Sg > > Upaketu 15 Cp 30' 13.41" Srav 2 Cp Ta > > Kaala 28 Aq 20' 32.96" PBha 3 Aq Ge > > Mrityu 20 Ar 11' 11.96" Bhar 3 Ar Li > > Artha Prahara 13 Ta 05' 34.54" Rohi 1 Ta Ar > > Yama Ghantaka 4 Ge 05' 29.21" Mrig 4 Ge Sc > > Prana Sphuta 14 Vi 08' 38.61" Hast 2 Vi Ta > > Deha Sphuta 21 Sg 24' 55.36" PSha 3 Sg Li > > Mrityu Sphuta 14 Sg 33' 26.18" PSha 1 Sg Le > > Sookshma TriSphuta 20 Aq 07' 00.15 " PBha 1 Aq Ar > > TriSphuta 6 Vi 03' 26.37" UPha 3 Vi Aq > > ChatusSphuta 21 Cn 33' 39.78" Asre 2 Cn Cp > > PanchaSphuta 23 Sg 53' 41.98" PSha 4 Sg Sc > > Kunda 5 Le 53' 43.96" Magh 2 Le Ta > > > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > |Mo Me | | |As | > > |Ke | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- | > > |Su | |Md Gk | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |----------- | Rasi |----------- | > > |Ma Ve | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- | > > |Ju Sa |GL |HL |Ra AL | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > | |Ma HL |As Ju | | > > | | |Ve | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- | > > |Su AL | |Me Ke | > > | | |GL | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | Navamsa | | > > |----------- | |----------- | > > |Ra | D-9 |Mo Gk | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- | > > | |Md |Sa | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > > > > > On 8/31/07, nalini swamy <nalini2818 <nalini2818@ ...>> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > Dear Tijana ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > How true... My chart has Jupiter and Saturn in 7th in Dhanus. Not a day > > > passes without my analysing whay and how's of my thoughts and actions. Guru > > > is Paka Lagnesh, my LL deb ,Budha in Meena with Chandra and Ketu. Rahu is my > > > AK and I welcomed all the experiences life has given me and have grown the > > > better for those. I did always wonder when laughter rang out as to why I > > > never did feel 'that' kind of a joy. I now do after all those experiences, > > > that joy in the green meadows, blue waters and the sky, Mother Nature and in > > > singing to the Divine which gives me Ananda beyond description. I always > > > wondered why inspite of being blessed with a very good voice, musical talent > > > have never made it as a profession?? I now realise it was for me to sing and > > > experience 'that' bliss which is incomparable. > > > > > > > > > > > > My birth details are; 28th February, 1960, 14:42 hrs, Madras, India. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Nalini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic < nix_nixen <nix_nixen@. ..>> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa@ .com> > > > Friday, 31 August, 2007 6:03:19 AM > > > Introspection > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > Dear Promila, > > > Just pointing the one who is responsible for introspection and deep > > > thinking. > > > Look for the formations of Brahma yoga in your chart as the > > > association of Jupiter and Saturn gives the ability for deep thinking. > > > Brahma implies going to the very bottom or the very beginning. Jupiter > > > in Kumbha is also a blessing for this. > > > If however, this feature of the mind tends to torment you creating a > > > tension, check up for the afflictions of Mercury and Moon, possible > > > conjuction or mutual aspect of these two... > > > What will give the real meaning to every thinking and make it useful > > > is Jupiter as karaka for dhi and paka lagna. If lagna doesn`t > > > cooperate with Jupiter all thinking becomes meaningless. > > > Warm regards, > > > Tijana > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger . > > > > > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Dear Michal Could it possibly give skill in playing a musical instrument perhaps? [hands involved] thank you Su >Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal >sohamsa >sohamsa >Re: Re: Introspection >Fri, 7 Sep 2007 00:21:43 -0700 (PDT) > >Hare Rama Krsna || > >Dear Voya, > >3rd house shows more skill with the hands, and as singing is not done with >the hands it is unlikely that Moon in 3rd would give this ability. This is >mentioned in JUS. > >Respectfully, >Michal > > >Voya Traykovic <vojatrajananda >sohamsa >Friday, September 7, 2007 12:52:05 PM > Re: Introspection > > Om namaste Ganapataye > >Dear Sanjay P, > >I think her navamsha lagna is mithuna, then Atmakaraka Rh would be in > >8th bhava (AK in dusthana-she hes been suffering from serious health > >problems). Also, could Candra in 3rd give singing as a skill? What do > >you think? > >Best regards, > >Voja > > > >sohamsa@ .com, " Sanjay Prabhakaran " > ><sanjaychettiar@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > Dear Naliniji, > > > I would think your Navamsa Lagna is Aries with moon in 5th and > >aspected by > > > Sun from Aq. Mars and Saturn in 1-7 could have made you undergo many > > > troubles to get married? > > > You would still need to work out the other divisional charts. > > > Warm Regards > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > On 8/31/07, nalini swamy <nalini2818@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > Dear Sanjay ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have wondered about it too because I have been suffering froma > >chronic > > > > debilitating disease of the lung for the last 6 years which remained > > > > undiagnosed for over 4 years. Rahu is in 9th in my D9, I would > >have expected > > > > a 8th house placement. My birthtime was recorded by my grand > >father.Thereare 2 different times we discovered in the diary. one was > > > > 14.48. My mother is also not sure of the correctness. It could be > >on or > > > > off by a few minutes. I have also tried to reason it out as I > >amnot equipped > > > > yet to set out to rectify it. I have worked in a senior position > >in a bank > > > > in India and faced innumerable challenges, financial frauds etc. I > >have > > > > emerged unscathed from it all due to The Mother's Grace. I am now > >abroad. I > > > > am now studying HRMgmt and Nursing( Moon in D24 is in a dusthana) > >. I am > > > > really very fortunate to have been gifted a voice that > >professional singers > > > > would die for ,I sing with a lot of emotion, and more devotionally > >inclined > > > > rather than towards the scientific intricacies. I am not too very > >keen on > > > > the tala aspect too. Most of it has been not through formal > >learning but > > > > through listening. My music is also very appealing emotionally to the > > > > listeners. I have given a few public performances though and sung > >on the > > > > radio(AIR). But I have found a lot of solace and succor from > >singing to the > > > > Divine audience and is far too fulfilling. > > > > > > > > I am very good at grammar, philosophy, reading and writing, > > > > administration. My time management is very bad and inspite of my best > > > > efforts almost never make it on time or mostly make it to the > >deadline. I am > > > > good at cooking bad at sports. Good with numbers yet not very good > >(do not > > > > like)at the mathematics stuff. I have two sons, married on 9th > >May 1984. > > > > > > > > So many factors seem paradoxical and I have always remained not > >very sure > > > > of my birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would be grateful if this could be resolved and also be a learning > > > > experience for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Nalini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiar@ ...> > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Saturday, 1 September, 2007 5:56:26 AM > > > > Re: Introspection > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > Dear Naliniji, > > > > If you say you have a very good voice. I was expecting your moon > >to be in > > > > trines or have a relation with the Navamsa Lagna. How accurate is > >your > > > > time?. > > > > Warm Regards > > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nalini > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > February 28, 1960 > > > > Time: 14:42:00 > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > Place: 80 E 17' 00 " , 13 N 05' 00 " > > > > Chennai, India > > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vikari - Phalguna > > > > Tithi: Sukla Dwitiya (Mo) (29.96% left) > > > > Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su) > > > > Nakshatra: Uttarabhadra (Sa) (80.69% left) > > > > Yoga: Sadhya (Ve) ( 14.41% left) > > > > Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (59.93% left) > > > > Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Sg) > > > > Mahakala Hora: Venus (5 min sign: Ar) > > > > Kaala Lord: Saturn (Mahakala: Saturn) > > > > > > > > Sunrise: 6:29:38 > > > > Sunset: 18:13:59 > > > > Janma Ghatis: 20.5153 > > > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-18-00.86 > > > > Sidereal Time: 1:01:57 > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > > > > > Lagna 25 Ge 59' 55.36 " Puna 2 Ge Ta > > > > Sun - MK 15 Aq 30' 13.41 " Sata 3 Aq Aq > > > > Moon - GK 5 Pi 54' 29.19 " UBha 1 Pi Le > > > > Mars - PiK 10 Cp 40' 50.08 " Srav 1 Cp Ar > > > > Mercury - DK 2 Pi 10' 03.10 " PBha 4 Pi Cn > > > > Jupiter - PK 6 Sg 24' 08.22 " Mool 2 Sg Ta > > > > Venus - BK 16 Cp 09' 31.96 " Srav 2 Cp Ta > > > > Saturn - AmK 22 Sg 25' 31.59 " PSha 3 Sg Li > > > > Rahu - AK 2 Vi 20' 02.20 " UPha 2 Vi Cp > > > > Ketu 2 Pi 20' 02.20 " PBha 4 Pi Cn > > > > Maandi 14 Cn 14' 43.52 " Push 4 Cn Sc > > > > Gulika 4 Cn 09' 01.82 " Push 1 Cn Le > > > > Bhava Lagna 18 Ge 15' 08.01 " Ardr 4 Ge Pi > > > > Hora Lagna 21 Li 20' 39.36 " Visa 1 Li Ar > > > > Ghati Lagna 0 Sc 37' 13.43 " Visa 4 Sc Cn > > > > Vighati Lagna 17 Sg 00' 03.76 " PSha 2 Sg Vi > > > > Varnada Lagna 25 Cp 59' 55.36 " Aswi 1 Cp Ge > > > > Sree Lagna 5 Vi 31' 03.53 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > > > Pranapada Lagna 17 Le 20' 40.52 " PPha 2 Le Vi > > > > Indu Lagna 5 Vi 54' 29.19 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > > > Dhooma 28 Ge 50' 13.41 " Puna 3 Ge Ge > > > > Vyatipata 1 Cp 09' 46.59 " USha 2 Cp Cp > > > > Parivesha 1 Cn 09' 46.59 " Puna 4 Cn Cn > > > > Indra Chapa 28 Sg 50' 13.41 " USha 1 Sg Sg > > > > Upaketu 15 Cp 30' 13.41 " Srav 2 Cp Ta > > > > Kaala 28 Aq 20' 32.96 " PBha 3 Aq Ge > > > > Mrityu 20 Ar 11' 11.96 " Bhar 3 Ar Li > > > > Artha Prahara 13 Ta 05' 34.54 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar > > > > Yama Ghantaka 4 Ge 05' 29.21 " Mrig 4 Ge Sc > > > > Prana Sphuta 14 Vi 08' 38.61 " Hast 2 Vi Ta > > > > Deha Sphuta 21 Sg 24' 55.36 " PSha 3 Sg Li > > > > Mrityu Sphuta 14 Sg 33' 26.18 " PSha 1 Sg Le > > > > Sookshma TriSphuta 20 Aq 07' 00.15 " PBha 1 Aq Ar > > > > TriSphuta 6 Vi 03' 26.37 " UPha 3 Vi Aq > > > > ChatusSphuta 21 Cn 33' 39.78 " Asre 2 Cn Cp > > > > PanchaSphuta 23 Sg 53' 41.98 " PSha 4 Sg Sc > > > > Kunda 5 Le 53' 43.96 " Magh 2 Le Ta > > > > > > > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > > > |Mo Me | | |As | > > > > |Ke | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- | > > > > |Su | |Md Gk | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > |----------- | Rasi |----------- | > > > > |Ma Ve | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- | > > > > |Ju Sa |GL |HL |Ra AL | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > > > > > > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > > > | |Ma HL |As Ju | | > > > > | | |Ve | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- | > > > > |Su AL | |Me Ke | > > > > | | |GL | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | Navamsa | | > > > > |----------- | |----------- | > > > > |Ra | D-9 |Mo Gk | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- | > > > > | |Md |Sa | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/31/07, nalini swamy <nalini2818 <nalini2818@ ...>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > Dear Tijana ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > > > How true... My chart has Jupiter and Saturn in 7th in Dhanus. > >Not a day > > > > > passes without my analysing whay and how's of my thoughts and > >actions. Guru > > > > > is Paka Lagnesh, my LL deb ,Budha in Meena with Chandra and > >Ketu. Rahu is my > > > > > AK and I welcomed all the experiences life has given me and have > >grown the > > > > > better for those. I did always wonder when laughter rang out as > >to why I > > > > > never did feel 'that' kind of a joy. I now do after all those > >experiences, > > > > > that joy in the green meadows, blue waters and the sky, Mother > >Nature and in > > > > > singing to the Divine which gives me Ananda beyond description. > >I always > > > > > wondered why inspite of being blessed with a very good voice, > >musical talent > > > > > have never made it as a profession?? I now realise it was for me > >to sing and > > > > > experience 'that' bliss which is incomparable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birth details are; 28th February, 1960, 14:42 hrs, Madras, India. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Nalini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic < nix_nixen <nix_nixen@. ..>> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa@ .com> > > > > > Friday, 31 August, 2007 6:03:19 AM > > > > > Introspection > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > Dear Promila, > > > > > Just pointing the one who is responsible for introspection and deep > > > > > thinking. > > > > > Look for the formations of Brahma yoga in your chart as the > > > > > association of Jupiter and Saturn gives the ability for deep > >thinking. > > > > > Brahma implies going to the very bottom or the very beginning. > >Jupiter > > > > > in Kumbha is also a blessing for this. > > > > > If however, this feature of the mind tends to torment you creating a > > > > > tension, check up for the afflictions of Mercury and Moon, possible > > > > > conjuction or mutual aspect of these two... > > > > > What will give the real meaning to every thinking and make it useful > > > > > is Jupiter as karaka for dhi and paka lagna. 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Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Michal ji, Voya ji, Namaskar. This has puzzled me for quite some time and has not been resolved satisfactorily. But as guruji said , if my lagna were to be mithuna, which I too thought would be more appropriate, then how would my interest, aptitude and skill in grammar, philosophy, management etc be justified? I would then be merely good at administration. I am also not very comfortable using my hands( perceived to be slow by others) when performing a skill, motor skills to be precise but am very good at other tasks that involve cognitive processes, like writing essays, articles etc. I won medals during my education(1973-74 and 75-76) for essay writing. I also like to rather 'write 'mentally actually so and normally plan out my writing mentally. I have a very good memory and could visualise how the lesson or a piece of writing looked and knew when I got it wrong specially during my exams. My thought processes are 'mercurial'. But I have always been commented as being slow when doing/completing tasks using my hands. My musical skills also cannot be attributed to formal learning and more innate and acquired and also not methodical. I always was a learner more of a informal nature. Thanks Nalini Nalini Swamy Michal Dziwulski <nearmichalsohamsa Sent: Friday, 7 September, 2007 7:21:43 PMRe: Re: Introspection Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Voya,3rd house shows more skill with the hands, and as singing is not done with the hands it is unlikely that Moon in 3rd would give this ability. This is mentioned in JUS.Respectfully,Michal Voya Traykovic <vojatrajananda@ absolutok. net>sohamsa@ .comFriday, September 7, 2007 12:52:05 PM Re: Introspection Om namaste Ganapataye Dear Sanjay P,I think her navamsha lagna is mithuna, then Atmakaraka Rh would be in8th bhava (AK in dusthana-she hes been suffering from serious healthproblems). Also, could Candra in 3rd give singing as a skill? What doyou think? Best regards, Vojasohamsa@ .com, "Sanjay Prabhakaran"<sanjaychettiar@ ...> wrote:>> || Om Gurave Namah ||> Dear Naliniji,> I would think your Navamsa Lagna is Aries with moon in 5th andaspected by> Sun from Aq. Mars and Saturn in 1-7 could have made you undergo many> troubles to get married?> You would still need to work out the other divisional charts.> Warm Regards> Sanjay P> > > On 8/31/07, nalini swamy <nalini2818@ ...> wrote:> >> > Hare Rama Krsna> > Dear Sanjay ji,> >> >> >> > I have wondered about it too because I have been suffering fromachronic> > debilitating disease of the lung for the last 6 years which remained> > undiagnosed for over 4 years. Rahu is in 9th in my D9, I wouldhave expected> > a 8th house placement. My birthtime was recorded by my grandfather.Thereare 2 different times we discovered in the diary. one was> > 14.48. My mother is also not sure of the correctness. It could beon or> > off by a few minutes. I have also tried to reason it out as Iamnot equipped> > yet to set out to rectify it. I have worked in a senior positionin a bank> > in India and faced innumerable challenges, financial frauds etc. Ihave> > emerged unscathed from it all due to The Mother's Grace. I am nowabroad. I> > am now studying HRMgmt and Nursing( Moon in D24 is in a dusthana). I am> > really very fortunate to have been gifted a voice thatprofessional singers> > would die for ,I sing with a lot of emotion, and more devotionallyinclined> > rather than towards the scientific intricacies. I am not too verykeen on> > the tala aspect too. Most of it has been not through formallearning but> > through listening. My music is also very appealing emotionally to the> > listeners. I have given a few public performances though and sungon the> > radio(AIR). But I have found a lot of solace and succor fromsinging to the> > Divine audience and is far too fulfilling.> >> > I am very good at grammar, philosophy, reading and writing,> > administration. My time management is very bad and inspite of my best> > efforts almost never make it on time or mostly make it to thedeadline. I am> > good at cooking bad at sports. Good with numbers yet not very good(do not> > like)at the mathematics stuff. I have two sons, married on 9thMay 1984.> >> > So many factors seem paradoxical and I have always remained notvery sure> > of my birth time.> >> >> >> > I would be grateful if this could be resolved and also be a learning> > experience for me.> >> >> >> > Regards> >> > Nalini> >> >> >> >> > **> >> >> > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiar@ ...>> > sohamsa@ .com> > Saturday, 1 September, 2007 5:56:26 AM> > Re: Introspection> >> > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > Dear Naliniji,> > If you say you have a very good voice. I was expecting your moonto be in> > trines or have a relation with the Navamsa Lagna. How accurate isyour> > time?.> > Warm Regards> > Sanjay P> >> >> >> > Nalini> >> > Natal Chart> >> > February 28, 1960> > Time: 14:42:00> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 80 E 17' 00", 13 N 05' 00"> > Chennai, India> > Altitude: 0.00 meters> >> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vikari - Phalguna> > Tithi: Sukla Dwitiya (Mo) (29.96% left)> > Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)> > Nakshatra: Uttarabhadra (Sa) (80.69% left)> > Yoga: Sadhya (Ve) ( 14.41% left)> > Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (59.93% left)> > Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Sg)> > Mahakala Hora: Venus (5 min sign: Ar)> > Kaala Lord: Saturn (Mahakala: Saturn)> >> > Sunrise: 6:29:38> > Sunset: 18:13:59> > Janma Ghatis: 20.5153> >> > Ayanamsa: 23-18-00.86> > Sidereal Time: 1:01:57> >> > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa> >> > Lagna 25 Ge 59' 55.36" Puna 2 Ge Ta> > Sun - MK 15 Aq 30' 13.41" Sata 3 Aq Aq> > Moon - GK 5 Pi 54' 29.19 " UBha 1 Pi Le> > Mars - PiK 10 Cp 40' 50.08" Srav 1 Cp Ar> > Mercury - DK 2 Pi 10' 03.10" PBha 4 Pi Cn> > Jupiter - PK 6 Sg 24' 08.22" Mool 2 Sg Ta> > Venus - BK 16 Cp 09' 31.96" Srav 2 Cp Ta> > Saturn - AmK 22 Sg 25' 31.59" PSha 3 Sg Li> > Rahu - AK 2 Vi 20' 02.20" UPha 2 Vi Cp> > Ketu 2 Pi 20' 02.20" PBha 4 Pi Cn> > Maandi 14 Cn 14' 43.52" Push 4 Cn Sc> > Gulika 4 Cn 09' 01.82" Push 1 Cn Le> > Bhava Lagna 18 Ge 15' 08.01 " Ardr 4 Ge Pi> > Hora Lagna 21 Li 20' 39.36" Visa 1 Li Ar> > Ghati Lagna 0 Sc 37' 13.43" Visa 4 Sc Cn> > Vighati Lagna 17 Sg 00' 03.76" PSha 2 Sg Vi> > Varnada Lagna 25 Cp 59' 55.36" Aswi 1 Cp Ge> > Sree Lagna 5 Vi 31' 03.53" UPha 3 Vi Aq> > Pranapada Lagna 17 Le 20' 40.52" PPha 2 Le Vi> > Indu Lagna 5 Vi 54' 29.19" UPha 3 Vi Aq> > Dhooma 28 Ge 50' 13.41" Puna 3 Ge Ge> > Vyatipata 1 Cp 09' 46.59" USha 2 Cp Cp> > Parivesha 1 Cn 09' 46.59 " Puna 4 Cn Cn> > Indra Chapa 28 Sg 50' 13.41" USha 1 Sg Sg> > Upaketu 15 Cp 30' 13.41" Srav 2 Cp Ta> > Kaala 28 Aq 20' 32.96" PBha 3 Aq Ge> > Mrityu 20 Ar 11' 11.96" Bhar 3 Ar Li> > Artha Prahara 13 Ta 05' 34.54" Rohi 1 Ta Ar> > Yama Ghantaka 4 Ge 05' 29.21" Mrig 4 Ge Sc> > Prana Sphuta 14 Vi 08' 38.61" Hast 2 Vi Ta> > Deha Sphuta 21 Sg 24' 55.36" PSha 3 Sg Li> > Mrityu Sphuta 14 Sg 33' 26.18" PSha 1 Sg Le> > Sookshma TriSphuta 20 Aq 07' 00.15 " PBha 1 Aq Ar> > TriSphuta 6 Vi 03' 26.37" UPha 3 Vi Aq> > ChatusSphuta 21 Cn 33' 39.78" Asre 2 Cn Cp> > PanchaSphuta 23 Sg 53' 41.98" PSha 4 Sg Sc> > Kunda 5 Le 53' 43.96" Magh 2 Le Ta> >> > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +> > |Mo Me | | |As |> > |Ke | | | |> > | | | | |> > | | | | |> > | | | | |> > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- |> > |Su | |Md Gk |> > | | | |> > | | | |> > | | | |> > | | | |> > |----------- | Rasi |----------- |> > |Ma Ve | | |> > | | | |> > | | | |> > | | | |> > | | | |> > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- |> > |Ju Sa |GL |HL |Ra AL |> > | | | | |> > | | | | |> > | | | | |> > | | | | |> > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +> >> > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +> > | |Ma HL |As Ju | |> > | | |Ve | |> > | | | | |> > | | | | |> > | | | | |> > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- |> > |Su AL | |Me Ke |> > | | |GL |> > | | | |> > | | | |> > | | Navamsa | |> > |----------- | |----------- |> > |Ra | D-9 |Mo Gk |> > | | | |> > | | | |> > | | | |> > | | | |> > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- |> > | |Md |Sa | |> > | | | | |> > | | | | |> > | | | | |> > | | | | |> > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +> >> >> > On 8/31/07, nalini swamy <nalini2818 <nalini2818@ ...>>> > wrote:> > >> > > Hare Rama Krsna> > > Dear Tijana ji,> > >> > >> > >> > > Namaskar.> > >> > > How true... My chart has Jupiter and Saturn in 7th in Dhanus.Not a day> > > passes without my analysing whay and how's of my thoughts andactions. Guru> > > is Paka Lagnesh, my LL deb ,Budha in Meena with Chandra andKetu. Rahu is my> > > AK and I welcomed all the experiences life has given me and havegrown the> > > better for those. I did always wonder when laughter rang out asto why I> > > never did feel 'that' kind of a joy. I now do after all thoseexperiences,> > > that joy in the green meadows, blue waters and the sky, MotherNature and in> > > singing to the Divine which gives me Ananda beyond description.I always> > > wondered why inspite of being blessed with a very good voice,musical talent> > > have never made it as a profession?? I now realise it was for meto sing and> > > experience 'that' bliss which is incomparable.> > >> > >> > >> > > My birth details are; 28th February, 1960, 14:42 hrs, Madras, India.> > >> > >> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Nalini> > >> > >> > >> > > ----- Original Message ----> > > tijanadamjanovic < nix_nixen <nix_nixen@. ..>>> > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa@ .com>> > > Friday, 31 August, 2007 6:03:19 AM> > > Introspection> > >> > > Om Gurave Namah> > > Dear Promila,> > > Just pointing the one who is responsible for introspection and deep> > > thinking.> > > Look for the formations of Brahma yoga in your chart as the> > > association of Jupiter and Saturn gives the ability for deepthinking.> > > Brahma implies going to the very bottom or the very beginning.Jupiter> > > in Kumbha is also a blessing for this.> > > If however, this feature of the mind tends to torment you creating a> > > tension, check up for the afflictions of Mercury and Moon, possible> > > conjuction or mutual aspect of these two...> > > What will give the real meaning to every thinking and make it useful> > > is Jupiter as karaka for dhi and paka lagna. If lagna doesn`t> > > cooperate with Jupiter all thinking becomes meaningless.> > > Warm regards,> > > Tijana> > >> > > .> >> >> >> >> >> > Send instant messages to your online friendshttp://au.messenger .> >> >> > > >> oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Su, Namaskar. I cannot play any musical instrument, in fact I would say that I am not very good at 'playing' with my hands, I am ok with sewing, embroidery, cooking but not basic motor activities, like doing dishes, washing clothes, I am very slow but thorough. Nalini v reality <reality_vsohamsa Sent: Friday, 7 September, 2007 8:53:55 PMRe: Re: Introspection Dear MichalCould it possibly give skill in playing a musical instrument perhaps? [hands involved]thank youSu>Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal >>sohamsa@ .com>sohamsa@ .com>Re: Re: Introspection>Fri, 7 Sep 2007 00:21:43 -0700 (PDT)>>Hare Rama Krsna ||>>Dear Voya,>>3rd house shows more skill with the hands, and as singing is not done with >the hands it is unlikely that Moon in 3rd would give this ability. This is >mentioned in JUS.>>Respectfully,>Michal>>>Voya Traykovic <vojatrajananda@ absolutok. net>>sohamsa@ .com>Friday, September 7, 2007 12:52:05 PM> Re: Introspection>> Om namaste Ganapataye>>Dear Sanjay P,>>I think her navamsha lagna is mithuna, then Atmakaraka Rh would be in>>8th bhava (AK in dusthana-she hes been suffering from serious health>>problems). Also, could Candra in 3rd give singing as a skill? What do>>you think?>>Best regards,>>Voja>>>>sohamsa@ .com, "Sanjay Prabhakaran">><sanjaychettiar@ ...> wrote:>> >>> > || Om Gurave Namah ||>> > Dear Naliniji,>> > I would think your Navamsa Lagna is Aries with moon in 5th and>>aspected by>> > Sun from Aq. Mars and Saturn in 1-7 could have made you undergo many>> > troubles to get married?>> > You would still need to work out the other divisional charts.>> > Warm Regards>> > Sanjay P>> >>> >>> > On 8/31/07, nalini swamy <nalini2818@ ...> wrote:>> > >>> > > Hare Rama Krsna>> > > Dear Sanjay ji,>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > I have wondered about it too because I have been suffering froma>>chronic>> > > debilitating disease of the lung for the last 6 years which remained>> > > undiagnosed for over 4 years. Rahu is in 9th in my D9, I would>>have expected>> > > a 8th house placement. My birthtime was recorded by my grand>>father.Thereare 2 different times we discovered in the diary. one was>> > > 14.48. My mother is also not sure of the correctness. It could be>>on or>> > > off by a few minutes. I have also tried to reason it out as I>>amnot equipped>> > > yet to set out to rectify it. I have worked in a senior position>>in a bank>> > > in India and faced innumerable challenges, financial frauds etc. I>>have>> > > emerged unscathed from it all due to The Mother's Grace. I am now>>abroad. I>> > > am now studying HRMgmt and Nursing( Moon in D24 is in a dusthana)>>. I am>> > > really very fortunate to have been gifted a voice that>>professional singers>> > > would die for ,I sing with a lot of emotion, and more devotionally>>inclined>> > > rather than towards the scientific intricacies. I am not too very>>keen on>> > > the tala aspect too. Most of it has been not through formal>>learning but>> > > through listening. My music is also very appealing emotionally to the>> > > listeners. I have given a few public performances though and sung>>on the>> > > radio(AIR). But I have found a lot of solace and succor from>>singing to the>> > > Divine audience and is far too fulfilling.>> > >>> > > I am very good at grammar, philosophy, reading and writing,>> > > administration. My time management is very bad and inspite of my best>> > > efforts almost never make it on time or mostly make it to the>>deadline. I am>> > > good at cooking bad at sports. Good with numbers yet not very good>>(do not>> > > like)at the mathematics stuff. I have two sons, married on 9th>>May 1984.>> > >>> > > So many factors seem paradoxical and I have always remained not>>very sure>> > > of my birth time.>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > I would be grateful if this could be resolved and also be a learning>> > > experience for me.>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > Regards>> > >>> > > Nalini>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > **>> > >>> > >>> > > >> > > Sanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiar@ ...>>> > > sohamsa@ .com>> > > Saturday, 1 September, 2007 5:56:26 AM>> > > Re: Introspection>> > >>> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||>> > > Dear Naliniji,>> > > If you say you have a very good voice. I was expecting your moon>>to be in>> > > trines or have a relation with the Navamsa Lagna. How accurate is>>your>> > > time?.>> > > Warm Regards>> > > Sanjay P>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > Nalini>> > >>> > > Natal Chart>> > >>> > > February 28, 1960>> > > Time: 14:42:00>> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)>> > > Place: 80 E 17' 00", 13 N 05' 00">> > > Chennai, India>> > > Altitude: 0.00 meters>> > >>> > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vikari - Phalguna>> > > Tithi: Sukla Dwitiya (Mo) (29.96% left)>> > > Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)>> > > Nakshatra: Uttarabhadra (Sa) (80.69% left)>> > > Yoga: Sadhya (Ve) ( 14.41% left)>> > > Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (59.93% left)>> > > Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Sg)>> > > Mahakala Hora: Venus (5 min sign: Ar)>> > > Kaala Lord: Saturn (Mahakala: Saturn)>> > >>> > > Sunrise: 6:29:38>> > > Sunset: 18:13:59>> > > Janma Ghatis: 20.5153>> > >>> > > Ayanamsa: 23-18-00.86>> > > Sidereal Time: 1:01:57>> > >>> > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa>> > >>> > > Lagna 25 Ge 59' 55.36" Puna 2 Ge Ta>> > > Sun - MK 15 Aq 30' 13.41" Sata 3 Aq Aq>> > > Moon - GK 5 Pi 54' 29.19 " UBha 1 Pi Le>> > > Mars - PiK 10 Cp 40' 50.08" Srav 1 Cp Ar>> > > Mercury - DK 2 Pi 10' 03.10" PBha 4 Pi Cn>> > > Jupiter - PK 6 Sg 24' 08.22" Mool 2 Sg Ta>> > > Venus - BK 16 Cp 09' 31.96" Srav 2 Cp Ta>> > > Saturn - AmK 22 Sg 25' 31.59" PSha 3 Sg Li>> > > Rahu - AK 2 Vi 20' 02.20" UPha 2 Vi Cp>> > > Ketu 2 Pi 20' 02.20" PBha 4 Pi Cn>> > > Maandi 14 Cn 14' 43.52" Push 4 Cn Sc>> > > Gulika 4 Cn 09' 01.82" Push 1 Cn Le>> > > Bhava Lagna 18 Ge 15' 08.01 " Ardr 4 Ge Pi>> > > Hora Lagna 21 Li 20' 39.36" Visa 1 Li Ar>> > > Ghati Lagna 0 Sc 37' 13.43" Visa 4 Sc Cn>> > > Vighati Lagna 17 Sg 00' 03.76" PSha 2 Sg Vi>> > > Varnada Lagna 25 Cp 59' 55.36" Aswi 1 Cp Ge>> > > Sree Lagna 5 Vi 31' 03.53" UPha 3 Vi Aq>> > > Pranapada Lagna 17 Le 20' 40.52" PPha 2 Le Vi>> > > Indu Lagna 5 Vi 54' 29.19" UPha 3 Vi Aq>> > > Dhooma 28 Ge 50' 13.41" Puna 3 Ge Ge>> > > Vyatipata 1 Cp 09' 46.59" USha 2 Cp Cp>> > > Parivesha 1 Cn 09' 46.59 " Puna 4 Cn Cn>> > > Indra Chapa 28 Sg 50' 13.41" USha 1 Sg Sg>> > > Upaketu 15 Cp 30' 13.41" Srav 2 Cp Ta>> > > Kaala 28 Aq 20' 32.96" PBha 3 Aq Ge>> > > Mrityu 20 Ar 11' 11.96" Bhar 3 Ar Li>> > > Artha Prahara 13 Ta 05' 34.54" Rohi 1 Ta Ar>> > > Yama Ghantaka 4 Ge 05' 29.21" Mrig 4 Ge Sc>> > > Prana Sphuta 14 Vi 08' 38.61" Hast 2 Vi Ta>> > > Deha Sphuta 21 Sg 24' 55.36" PSha 3 Sg Li>> > > Mrityu Sphuta 14 Sg 33' 26.18" PSha 1 Sg Le>> > > Sookshma TriSphuta 20 Aq 07' 00.15 " PBha 1 Aq Ar>> > > TriSphuta 6 Vi 03' 26.37" UPha 3 Vi Aq>> > > ChatusSphuta 21 Cn 33' 39.78" Asre 2 Cn Cp>> > > PanchaSphuta 23 Sg 53' 41.98" PSha 4 Sg Sc>> > > Kunda 5 Le 53' 43.96" Magh 2 Le Ta>> > >>> > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +>> > > |Mo Me | | |As |>> > > |Ke | | | |>> > > | | | | |>> > > | | | | |>> > > | | | | |>> > > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- |>> > > |Su | |Md Gk |>> > > | | | |>> > > | | | |>> > > | | | |>> > > | | | |>> > > |----------- | Rasi |----------- |>> > > |Ma Ve | | |>> > > | | | |>> > > | | | |>> > > | | | |>> > > | | | |>> > > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- |>> > > |Ju Sa |GL |HL |Ra AL |>> > > | | | | |>> > > | | | | |>> > > | | | | |>> > > | | | | |>> > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +>> > >>> > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +>> > > | |Ma HL |As Ju | |>> > > | | |Ve | |>> > > | | | | |>> > > | | | | |>> > > | | | | |>> > > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- |>> > > |Su AL | |Me Ke |>> > > | | |GL |>> > > | | | |>> > > | | | |>> > > | | Navamsa | |>> > > |----------- | |----------- |>> > > |Ra | D-9 |Mo Gk |>> > > | | | |>> > > | | | |>> > > | | | |>> > > | | | |>> > > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- |>> > > | |Md |Sa | |>> > > | | | | |>> > > | | | | |>> > > | | | | |>> > > | | | | |>> > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +>> > >>> > >>> > > On 8/31/07, nalini swamy <nalini2818 <nalini2818@ ...>>>> > > wrote:>> > > >>> > > > Hare Rama Krsna>> > > > Dear Tijana ji,>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > Namaskar.>> > > >>> > > > How true... My chart has Jupiter and Saturn in 7th in Dhanus.>>Not a day>> > > > passes without my analysing whay and how's of my thoughts and>>actions. Guru>> > > > is Paka Lagnesh, my LL deb ,Budha in Meena with Chandra and>>Ketu. Rahu is my>> > > > AK and I welcomed all the experiences life has given me and have>>grown the>> > > > better for those. I did always wonder when laughter rang out as>>to why I>> > > > never did feel 'that' kind of a joy. I now do after all those>>experiences,>> > > > that joy in the green meadows, blue waters and the sky, Mother>>Nature and in>> > > > singing to the Divine which gives me Ananda beyond description.>>I always>> > > > wondered why inspite of being blessed with a very good voice,>>musical talent>> > > > have never made it as a profession?? I now realise it was for me>>to sing and>> > > > experience 'that' bliss which is incomparable.>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > My birth details are; 28th February, 1960, 14:42 hrs, Madras, India.>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > Regards>> > > >>> > > > Nalini>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > >> > > > tijanadamjanovic < nix_nixen <nix_nixen@. ..>>>> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa@ s .com>>> > > > Friday, 31 August, 2007 6:03:19 AM>> > > > Introspection>> > > >>> > > > Om Gurave Namah>> > > > Dear Promila,>> > > > Just pointing the one who is responsible for introspection and deep>> > > > thinking.>> > > > Look for the formations of Brahma yoga in your chart as the>> > > > association of Jupiter and Saturn gives the ability for deep>>thinking.>> > > > Brahma implies going to the very bottom or the very beginning.>>Jupiter>> > > > in Kumbha is also a blessing for this.>> > > > If however, this feature of the mind tends to torment you creating a>> > > > tension, check up for the afflictions of Mercury and Moon, possible>> > > > conjuction or mutual aspect of these two...>> > > > What will give the real meaning to every thinking and make it useful>> > > > is Jupiter as karaka for dhi and paka lagna. If lagna doesn`t>> > > > cooperate with Jupiter all thinking becomes meaningless.>> > > > Warm regards,>> > > > Tijana>> > > >>> > > > .>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > Send instant messages to your online friends>>http://au.messenger .>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><!-->>#ygrp-mkp{>border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font- family:Arial; margin:14px 0px;padding: 0px >14px;}>#ygrp-mkp hr{>border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}>#ygrp-mkp #hd{>color:#628c2a; font-size: 85%;font- weight:bold; line-height: 122%;margin: 10px >0px;}>#ygrp-mkp #ads{>margin-bottom: 10px;}>#ygrp-mkp .ad{>padding:0 0;}>#ygrp-mkp .ad a{>color:#0000ff; text-decoration: none;}>-->>>>><!-->>#ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{>font-family: Arial;}>#ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{>margin:10px 0px;font-weight: bold;font- size:78%; line-height: 122%;}>#ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{>margin-bottom: 10px;padding: 0 0;}>-->>>>><!-->>#ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, >sans-serif; }>#ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;}>#ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, >sans-serif; }>#ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;}>#ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;}>#ygrp-text{>font-family: Georgia;>}>#ygrp-text p{>margin:0 0 1em 0;}>#ygrp-tpmsgs{>font-family: Arial;>clear:both; }>#ygrp-vitnav{>padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;}>#ygrp-vitnav a{>padding:0 1px;}>#ygrp-actbar{>clear:both; margin:25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text- align:right; }>#ygrp-actbar ..left{>float:left; white-space: nowrap;}>.bld{font-weight: bold;}>#ygrp-grft{>font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;}>#ygrp-ft{>font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666;>padding:5px 0;>}>#ygrp-mlmsg #logo{>padding-bottom: 10px;}>>#ygrp-vital{>background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;padding: 2px 0 8px 8px;}>#ygrp-vital #vithd{>font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; color:#333; text-transform: uppercase; }>#ygrp-vital ul{>padding:0;margin: 2px 0;}>#ygrp-vital ul li{>list-style- type:none; clear:both; border:1px solid #e0ecee;>}>#ygrp-vital ul li .ct{>font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text- align:right; padding-right: .5em;}>#ygrp-vital ul li .cat{>font-weight: bold;}>#ygrp-vital a{>text-decoration: none;}>>#ygrp-vital a:hover{>text-decoration: underline; }>>#ygrp-sponsor #hd{>color:#999; font-size: 77%;}>#ygrp-sponsor #ov{>padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;}>#ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{>padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; }>#ygrp-sponsor #ov li{>list-style- type:square; padding:6px 0;font-size: 77%;}>#ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{>text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;}>#ygrp-sponsor #nc{>background- color:#eee; margin-bottom: 20px;padding: 0 8px;}>#ygrp-sponsor .ad{>padding:8px 0;}>#ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{>font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font-size: 100%;line- height:122% ;}>#ygrp-sponsor .ad a{>text-decoration: none;}>#ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{>text-decoration: underline; }>#ygrp-sponsor .ad p{>margin:0;}>o{font-size: 0;}>.MsoNormal{>margin:0 0 0 0;}>#ygrp-text tt{>font-size:120% ;}>blockquote{ margin:0 0 0 4px;}>.replbq{margin: 4;}>-->>>>>>>>>>>___________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __>Building a website is a piece of cake. 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Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Su,Moon is singing, Sun is rhythm. My guess would be that Venus would be musical instruments. Know of any goddesses that play the guitar? Saraswati maybe?Respectfully,Michalv reality <reality_vsohamsa Sent: Friday, September 7, 2007 8:53:55 PMRe: Re: Introspection Dear Michal Could it possibly give skill in playing a musical instrument perhaps? [hands involved] thank you Su >Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > >sohamsa@ .com >sohamsa@ .com >Re: Re: Introspection >Fri, 7 Sep 2007 00:21:43 -0700 (PDT) > >Hare Rama Krsna || > >Dear Voya, > >3rd house shows more skill with the hands, and as singing is not done with >the hands it is unlikely that Moon in 3rd would give this ability. This is >mentioned in JUS. > >Respectfully, >Michal > > >Voya Traykovic <vojatrajananda@ absolutok. net> >sohamsa@ .com >Friday, September 7, 2007 12:52:05 PM > Re: Introspection > > Om namaste Ganapataye > >Dear Sanjay P, > >I think her navamsha lagna is mithuna, then Atmakaraka Rh would be in > >8th bhava (AK in dusthana-she hes been suffering from serious health > >problems). Also, could Candra in 3rd give singing as a skill? What do > >you think? > >Best regards, > >Voja > > > >sohamsa@ .com, "Sanjay Prabhakaran" > ><sanjaychettiar@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > Dear Naliniji, > > > I would think your Navamsa Lagna is Aries with moon in 5th and > >aspected by > > > Sun from Aq. Mars and Saturn in 1-7 could have made you undergo many > > > troubles to get married? > > > You would still need to work out the other divisional charts. > > > Warm Regards > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > On 8/31/07, nalini swamy <nalini2818@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > Dear Sanjay ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have wondered about it too because I have been suffering froma > >chronic > > > > debilitating disease of the lung for the last 6 years which remained > > > > undiagnosed for over 4 years. Rahu is in 9th in my D9, I would > >have expected > > > > a 8th house placement. My birthtime was recorded by my grand > >father.Thereare 2 different times we discovered in the diary. one was > > > > 14.48. My mother is also not sure of the correctness. It could be > >on or > > > > off by a few minutes. I have also tried to reason it out as I > >amnot equipped > > > > yet to set out to rectify it. I have worked in a senior position > >in a bank > > > > in India and faced innumerable challenges, financial frauds etc. I > >have > > > > emerged unscathed from it all due to The Mother's Grace. I am now > >abroad. I > > > > am now studying HRMgmt and Nursing( Moon in D24 is in a dusthana) > >. I am > > > > really very fortunate to have been gifted a voice that > >professional singers > > > > would die for ,I sing with a lot of emotion, and more devotionally > >inclined > > > > rather than towards the scientific intricacies. I am not too very > >keen on > > > > the tala aspect too. Most of it has been not through formal > >learning but > > > > through listening. My music is also very appealing emotionally to the > > > > listeners. I have given a few public performances though and sung > >on the > > > > radio(AIR). But I have found a lot of solace and succor from > >singing to the > > > > Divine audience and is far too fulfilling. > > > > > > > > I am very good at grammar, philosophy, reading and writing, > > > > administration. My time management is very bad and inspite of my best > > > > efforts almost never make it on time or mostly make it to the > >deadline. I am > > > > good at cooking bad at sports. Good with numbers yet not very good > >(do not > > > > like)at the mathematics stuff. I have two sons, married on 9th > >May 1984. > > > > > > > > So many factors seem paradoxical and I have always remained not > >very sure > > > > of my birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would be grateful if this could be resolved and also be a learning > > > > experience for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Nalini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiar@ ...> > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Saturday, 1 September, 2007 5:56:26 AM > > > > Re: Introspection > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > Dear Naliniji, > > > > If you say you have a very good voice. I was expecting your moon > >to be in > > > > trines or have a relation with the Navamsa Lagna. How accurate is > >your > > > > time?. > > > > Warm Regards > > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nalini > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > February 28, 1960 > > > > Time: 14:42:00 > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > Place: 80 E 17' 00", 13 N 05' 00" > > > > Chennai, India > > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vikari - Phalguna > > > > Tithi: Sukla Dwitiya (Mo) (29.96% left) > > > > Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su) > > > > Nakshatra: Uttarabhadra (Sa) (80.69% left) > > > > Yoga: Sadhya (Ve) ( 14.41% left) > > > > Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (59.93% left) > > > > Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Sg) > > > > Mahakala Hora: Venus (5 min sign: Ar) > > > > Kaala Lord: Saturn (Mahakala: Saturn) > > > > > > > > Sunrise: 6:29:38 > > > > Sunset: 18:13:59 > > > > Janma Ghatis: 20.5153 > > > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-18-00.86 > > > > Sidereal Time: 1:01:57 > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > > > > > Lagna 25 Ge 59' 55.36" Puna 2 Ge Ta > > > > Sun - MK 15 Aq 30' 13.41" Sata 3 Aq Aq > > > > Moon - GK 5 Pi 54' 29.19 " UBha 1 Pi Le > > > > Mars - PiK 10 Cp 40' 50.08" Srav 1 Cp Ar > > > > Mercury - DK 2 Pi 10' 03.10" PBha 4 Pi Cn > > > > Jupiter - PK 6 Sg 24' 08.22" Mool 2 Sg Ta > > > > Venus - BK 16 Cp 09' 31.96" Srav 2 Cp Ta > > > > Saturn - AmK 22 Sg 25' 31.59" PSha 3 Sg Li > > > > Rahu - AK 2 Vi 20' 02.20" UPha 2 Vi Cp > > > > Ketu 2 Pi 20' 02.20" PBha 4 Pi Cn > > > > Maandi 14 Cn 14' 43.52" Push 4 Cn Sc > > > > Gulika 4 Cn 09' 01.82" Push 1 Cn Le > > > > Bhava Lagna 18 Ge 15' 08.01 " Ardr 4 Ge Pi > > > > Hora Lagna 21 Li 20' 39.36" Visa 1 Li Ar > > > > Ghati Lagna 0 Sc 37' 13.43" Visa 4 Sc Cn > > > > Vighati Lagna 17 Sg 00' 03.76" PSha 2 Sg Vi > > > > Varnada Lagna 25 Cp 59' 55.36" Aswi 1 Cp Ge > > > > Sree Lagna 5 Vi 31' 03.53" UPha 3 Vi Aq > > > > Pranapada Lagna 17 Le 20' 40.52" PPha 2 Le Vi > > > > Indu Lagna 5 Vi 54' 29.19" UPha 3 Vi Aq > > > > Dhooma 28 Ge 50' 13.41" Puna 3 Ge Ge > > > > Vyatipata 1 Cp 09' 46.59" USha 2 Cp Cp > > > > Parivesha 1 Cn 09' 46.59 " Puna 4 Cn Cn > > > > Indra Chapa 28 Sg 50' 13.41" USha 1 Sg Sg > > > > Upaketu 15 Cp 30' 13.41" Srav 2 Cp Ta > > > > Kaala 28 Aq 20' 32.96" PBha 3 Aq Ge > > > > Mrityu 20 Ar 11' 11.96" Bhar 3 Ar Li > > > > Artha Prahara 13 Ta 05' 34.54" Rohi 1 Ta Ar > > > > Yama Ghantaka 4 Ge 05' 29.21" Mrig 4 Ge Sc > > > > Prana Sphuta 14 Vi 08' 38.61" Hast 2 Vi Ta > > > > Deha Sphuta 21 Sg 24' 55.36" PSha 3 Sg Li > > > > Mrityu Sphuta 14 Sg 33' 26.18" PSha 1 Sg Le > > > > Sookshma TriSphuta 20 Aq 07' 00.15 " PBha 1 Aq Ar > > > > TriSphuta 6 Vi 03' 26.37" UPha 3 Vi Aq > > > > ChatusSphuta 21 Cn 33' 39.78" Asre 2 Cn Cp > > > > PanchaSphuta 23 Sg 53' 41.98" PSha 4 Sg Sc > > > > Kunda 5 Le 53' 43.96" Magh 2 Le Ta > > > > > > > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > > > |Mo Me | | |As | > > > > |Ke | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- | > > > > |Su | |Md Gk | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > |----------- | Rasi |----------- | > > > > |Ma Ve | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- | > > > > |Ju Sa |GL |HL |Ra AL | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > > > > > > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > > > | |Ma HL |As Ju | | > > > > | | |Ve | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- | > > > > |Su AL | |Me Ke | > > > > | | |GL | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | Navamsa | | > > > > |----------- | |----------- | > > > > |Ra | D-9 |Mo Gk | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- | > > > > | |Md |Sa | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/31/07, nalini swamy <nalini2818 <nalini2818@ ...>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > Dear Tijana ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > > > > > How true... My chart has Jupiter and Saturn in 7th in Dhanus. > >Not a day > > > > > passes without my analysing whay and how's of my thoughts and > >actions. Guru > > > > > is Paka Lagnesh, my LL deb ,Budha in Meena with Chandra and > >Ketu. Rahu is my > > > > > AK and I welcomed all the experiences life has given me and have > >grown the > > > > > better for those. I did always wonder when laughter rang out as > >to why I > > > > > never did feel 'that' kind of a joy. I now do after all those > >experiences, > > > > > that joy in the green meadows, blue waters and the sky, Mother > >Nature and in > > > > > singing to the Divine which gives me Ananda beyond description. > >I always > > > > > wondered why inspite of being blessed with a very good voice, > >musical talent > > > > > have never made it as a profession?? I now realise it was for me > >to sing and > > > > > experience 'that' bliss which is incomparable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birth details are; 28th February, 1960, 14:42 hrs, Madras, India. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Nalini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic < nix_nixen <nix_nixen@. ..>> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa@ s .com> > > > > > Friday, 31 August, 2007 6:03:19 AM > > > > > Introspection > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > Dear Promila, > > > > > Just pointing the one who is responsible for introspection and deep > > > > > thinking. > > > > > Look for the formations of Brahma yoga in your chart as the > > > > > association of Jupiter and Saturn gives the ability for deep > >thinking. > > > > > Brahma implies going to the very bottom or the very beginning. > >Jupiter > > > > > in Kumbha is also a blessing for this. > > > > > If however, this feature of the mind tends to torment you creating a > > > > > tension, check up for the afflictions of Mercury and Moon, possible > > > > > conjuction or mutual aspect of these two... > > > > > What will give the real meaning to every thinking and make it useful > > > > > is Jupiter as karaka for dhi and paka lagna. 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