Donald Trumps birth details (Jupiter as AK (to Visti, Tijanaji, Nitish and v_reality))

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हरे राम कृष्ण॥

Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

Here is what i have, its not rectified though:

 

Trump, Donald

Natal Chart

June 14, 1946

Time: 9:51:00 am

Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT)

Place: 73 W 52' 00", 40 N 43' 00"

 

Hope this helps.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

 

--

 

Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

Jaimini SJC - Denmark

email: visti

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Ramesh.F.Gangaramani wrote:

 

 

 

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

 

Dear Visti, Namaskar

 

Can you share Donald Trump's birth

details

if you have please?

 

thanks

 

Ramesh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

 

Sent by: sohamsa

08/31/2007 08:45 AM

 

 

 

 

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Jupiter as AK (to

Visti, Tijanaji, Nitish and v_reality)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

हरे राम कृष्ण॥

 

Dear Nitish, Namaskar

Thank you for your reply.

Surely Surya is not Ahamkara, thats like saying that Rahu is Durga.

Using

that equation we could say that Aditya, Shiva and Agni are all Surya...

Taking a line from your mail we are actually saying that Vishnu being

an

aditya is Surya? Obviously both of us know better than that.

 

See, the devatas reside in svarga loka and this

corresponds

to the nakshatras. The grahas through their transit of the nakshatras

are

actually eclipsing them and thus certain forms of devatas come as

indicating

by 1) the graha eclipsing. 2) the nakshatra it eclipses. Since

nakshatras

are the basis of the rasi chart, we can find based on the state of a

graha

the actual devata represented by it. But its only a representation as

the

Grahas themselves are not devatas.

 

The graha which 'represents' the bondage of

ahamkara is

Surya, just as the graha representing the bondage of the mind is Moon.

And among those born with Surya as atmakaraka we have grades of those

being

fully engrossed in ahamkara vs. having complete control of ahamkara.

Divine

souls like Vivekananda, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and Sri Krishna being

at

one end of the scale. With fellows like Donald Trump, Adolph Hitler

(exalted

surya yuti AK) and others at the other end of the scale.

 

Now, to overcome these eight bondages, there are

EIGHT

ways to look at God through which we can be freed. For the Ahamkara we

must look at God as Paramatman. This is the remedy itself. And the

specific

form of Shiva who will help us realize this is Ishana for the Sun.

 

So please don't make the equation that everyone

with Surya

atmakaraka is Paramatman. That would be quite delusional indeed...

Infact

the concept of Paramatma is the means to which the Surya atmakaraka

will

be freed of his/her ahamkara.

Looking forward to your reply.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

--

Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

Jaimini SJC - Denmark

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

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yeeahoo_99 wrote:

 

|| OM TAT SAT||

Dear Visti,

How do you prove that Ahamkara is represented by Surya ? Either you

mean to say that Lord Krishna represents Ahamkara going by Gita

Chapter 10 verse 21:

 

"Of the tweleve adityas I am vishnu, of all luminaries the radiant

Sun , of the seven Maruts I am marichi, and of the constellations I am

the Moon."

 

Are you saying that Sura/Surya group of planets are lead by Surya as

Ahamkara?

 

Are you saying that the Vedas adoring Surya Narayan as a witness of

all actions (Sakshi) is an individuality creating Ahamkara Principle

and not an impersonal transcendental intelligence principle?

 

Please explain why Surya as Ahamkara should be referred to as

Paramatma, the soul of all and `Jagadaikha chakshusay', the eye of the

three worlds?

 

regards,

nitish

 

sohamsa ,

Visti Larsen <visti

wrote:

>

> ??? ??? ??????

>

> Dear List, Namaskar

> Why hasn't anyone started talking about the eight bondages of the

atma?

> Ahamkara (surya), Manas (chandra), Prakriti (rahu), Akasha (guru),

Agni

> (mangala), Jala (shukra), Vayu (shani) and Prithvi (budha).

>

> And how these eight bondages map into the eight spokes of the kala

 

> chakra, which are simultaneously the eight spokes of the anahata

chakra.

>

> Really any talk on the atma and its EIGHT karakas is futile

without

any

> of this.

>

> Yours sincerely,

>

> --

> Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

> Jaimini SJC - Denmark

> email: visti <visti

> For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

 

> <http://srigaruda.com>

>

> Promila Chitkara wrote:

> > Hello Sharat,

> >

> > Do you not think that "serving others" comes naturally

only to a

> > handful people? There maybe people who want to serve their

families;

 

> > however, that is not selfless service in the true sense of

the

term.

> > Because we know very well that in happiness and contentment

of

our

> > families lies our happiness and growth! So it's purely

selfish.

> >

> > P

> >

> >

> > Sharat <gidoc

> > sohamsa

> > Thursday, August 30, 2007 2:23:04 AM

> > Re: Re: Jupiter as AK (to Tijanaji, Nitish

and

> > v_reality)

> >

> > ||Namah Shivaya||

> > Dear Sundeep,

> > Good observations, I was following this thread as well but

really

 

> > found the ' ego ' bit coming in too quickly.

> > English words cant describe so well ' ahankar ' and ' aham'

which

are

> > different and I agree that one cannot see this only in Sun AK.

However

> > as you say, Sun AK needs to learn to serve others as it does

not come

> > naturally to them. And you cant take ' I ' away from them so

easily

> > but perhaps if one wants to merge with Paramatma, then the '

I '

will

> > have to merge in to ' Him '.

> >

> > Best

> > Sharat

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > ** vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent

> > *To:* sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa >

> > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2007 8:56 PM

> > *Subject:* Re: Jupiter as AK (to Tijanaji, Nitish

and

> > v_reality)

> >

> > Dear Tijanaji and Nitish,

> >

> > I have been reading your exchange with interest in the hope of

> > learning something new, but I find myself disagreeing subtly

in the

> > essence of what you say. In fact, deep down in the exchange I

find

> > this statement made by "v_reality" which makes a lot

of sense

to me:

> > "Can this also be understood at a different level as the

effacement

> > of 'self' in a spiritual sense?".

> >

> > Here is my take - I have none of the scriptural knowledge you

both

> > have, only I have seen several Sun AK people: I dont think it

is

> > fair to say that Sun AK people are egotistic. See, English

also has

> > a lot of words which have subtly different meanings, and the

right

> > one has to be used. An egotistic person is one who has a

exaggerated

> > sense of self-importance. Almost everyone in this world has

that

> > (and you are fooling yourself if you deny it), it is plain

wrong to

> > observe a person have Sun AK and simultaneously observe that

he also

> > has an exaggerated sense of self importance and say "yes,

that is

> > what the Sun AK does to him". I can cite hundreds of people

I know

> > who are very self important and DONT have Sun AK, and not only

that

> > may not even have a strong Sun in their chart.

> >

> > I personally think the only statement that can be observed

> > repeatedly with Sun AK people is that they are egocentric i.e.

their

> > view of the world is based on the individual rather than the

> > society. They may or may not be egotistical (i.e.

egocentricity does

> > not imply self importance) - the AK simply makes them go

through

> > experiences in life such that their core self is tested. How

they

> > respond to it depends probably on lots of other astrological

> > factors. The only statement I can safely make, based on pure

> > experience, is that Sun AK people are guided to divinity

through

> > experiences of the self, consequently their view is

egocentric.

> >

> > I know one Sun AK woman (dont know if I can share her data)

who was

> > molested (by her own professor) and denied a higher degree

that she

> > worked hard for, then get married and then divorced, then

have

her

> > mom die of cancer in a rather painful way, then have her

brother get

> > divorced in a messy lawsuit (and then leave her too), then

(she) get

> > married again and her husband develop terminal cancer very

soon

> > afterward. Net result: she cant seem to find a strong and

consistent

> > support outside of herself - she has become self reliant and

only

> > finds consistent happiness in meditation/reiki. She is

probably

> > egotistical in some degree too, but not in any outstanding

way

at

> > all, and probably much less than all the people around her..

> >

> > Consequently, I really dispute the fact that Sun AK people

must

> > learn to "reduce their ego". That is simply a general

lesson

for all

> > of mankind. Sun AK people's AK will guide them towards

divinity

> > through experiences that make them focus on themselves and

search

> > for the truth: now that's the statement I find much more to

the

> > point.

> >

> > Comments?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Sundeep

> >

> > sohamsa@ .com

> > <sohamsa%40>,

nix nixen <nix_nixen@ ..>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > Dear Nitish,

> > > Only from one simple statement of yours "It is not

always

> > possible for me..." i read that your AK must be nothing

less than

> > Sun. Am i right? If yes, then i think i`m on the right way of

> > finding answers on my queries.

> > > Warm regards,

> > > Tijana

> > >

> > > yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya@ ...> wrote:

> > > Dear Tijana,

> > > Raja Yoga is the yoga of soul with paramatma -

deep/shallow,

> > > material/spiritual - all kind of things have a basis

only

in

> > > paramatma. Thus, even Raja-bhanga yoga has a basis i.e.

separation

> > of

> > > soul from paramatma (which is illusory only though) and

hence

> > > material/spiritual loss depending on the kind of karma

involved.

> > >

> > > As the lord of a sign, a planet rules a 12th part of the

> > > consciousness, relatively . Thus, in part, it becomes

its

> > > responsibility to guide the affairs of that sign/house

towards

> > > fulfillment. You may explore it further.

> > >

> > > It is not always possible for me to answer to your

specific

> > queries.

> > > Hopefully, in time, you will discover the truth of your

queries.

> > >

> > > best regards,

> > > nitish

> > >

> > > sohamsa@ .com

> > <sohamsa%40>,

"tijanadamjanovic"

<nix_nixen@>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > Dear Nitish,

> > > > Yes, all must serve. The questions raised in these

discussions

> > on Atma

> > > > karakas were on the specific way of serving.

> > > > If we say that Sun AK must learn principles of artha

shastra to

> > serve,

> > > > the same stands for Ma and Ju AK? How to

differentiate?

I

assume

> > you

> > > > are taking karakatvas of the houses into account

also

(2nd, 6th,

> > 10th)?

> > > > The Sun/Raja gets service on the throne, but

regarding

> > spirituality

> > > > and Atma this is related to real Raja yoga whose

deepest

meaning

> > is

> > > > inseparable from 10th house of indriyas (refer

Vivekananda)

..

> > Only in

> > > > that sense we can talk of Janaka or the perfect

King.

What

artha

> > > > shastra principles you had in mind?

> > > > Warm regards,

> > > > Tijana

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > <sohamsa%40>,

"yeeahoo_99" <nitish.arya@ >

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > || Om TAT SAT ||

> > > > > Dear Tijana,

> > > > >

> > > > > > To fulfill ones own dharma is what you

probably

had in

mind

> > > > > > mentioning Gita in this context.

> > > > >

> > > > > Context that was intended is Gita Chapter

3,sloka

22.

> > > > >

> > > > > All must work if the lord of the cosmos has

chosen

to work.

> > Thus,

> > > > > there is nothing specific that only SUN AK has

to

"serve", all

> > AKs

> > > > > "serve".

> > > > >

> > > > > > But, are you implying that Sun AK gives a

person akin to

> > Janaka?!

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, Sun AK gives a person akin to Janaka -

jivanmukta

-

> > provided

> > > > > enough effort has been put in.

> > > > >

> > > > > > Are you determing dharma based on this?

> > > > >

> > > > > No, Sun AK need not be 9th lord.

> > > > >

> > > > > > Will you advise Sun AK people to take

Dhartharastra

as an

> > example!

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes.

> > > > > The attitude of service is seen from 6th

house.

Leo being a

> > dharma

> > > > > trikona sign fulfills its purpose of service

through

10th

> > house of

> > > > > Artha, which is 6th from it. So a Sun AK

should

learn

> > principles of

> > > > > artha shastra to serve.

> > > > >

> > > > > > So, again, what Raja will hardly ever do

is serving.

> > > > >

> > > > > All souls have to "Serve" only as there

is nothing else

to be

> > done

> > > > > in the three worlds because Krishna has

already

achieved

> > everything

> > > > > that is there to achieve in the three

worlds(refer

Gita).

> > Those who

> > > > > do not serve, are reborn to learn to serve,

whatever

be

their

> > AK.

> > > > >

> > > > > > Swami Vivekananda` s Dharm bhava lord was

Sun AK in

lagna in

> > Dhanus

> > > > > > (extraordinary combination for unselfish

giving by

itself).

> > > > > > But do you think it`s a coincidence that

His Master had

> > exalted

> > > > > Saturn in 9th

> > > > > > bhava and Rahu AK? What do you think, why

even Swami

needed

> > these?

> > > > >

> > > > > One is not re-born after exhausting his

karma/desires.

Thus,

> > > > > vivekananda (Rahu PiK) came here to exhaust

his

remaining

> > karma/

> > > > > desires with Ramakrishna (Rahu AK). There is

no

more

substance

> > to

> > > > > this than a past-life karmic relationship of

the

two which

> > continued

> > > > > in this birth also.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > NITISH

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > <sohamsa%40>,

"tijana" <nix_nixen@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > Dear Nitish,

> > > > > > Your elaboration would be even more

brilliant

if you had

> > just answer

> > > > > > my question.

> > > > > > To fulfill ones own dharma is what you

probably

had in

mind

> > > > > mentioning

> > > > > > Gita in this context. But, are you

implying

that Sun AK

> > gives a

> > > > > > person akin to Janaka?! Are you determing

dharma based on

> > this? Will

> > > > > > you advise Sun AK people to take

Dhartharastra

as an

> > example!

> > > > > > So, again, what Raja will hardly ever do

is serving.

> > > > > > Swami Vivekananda` s Dharm bhava lord was

Sun AK in

lagna in

> > Dhanus

> > > > > > (extraordinary combination for unselfish

giving by

itself).

> > But do

> > > > > you

> > > > > > think it`s a coincidence that His Master

had exalted

Saturn

> > in 9th

> > > > > > bhava and Rahu AK? What do you think, why

even Swami

needed

> > these?

> > > > > > Warm regards,

> > > > > > Tijana

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > <sohamsa%40>,

"yeeahoo_99" <nitish.arya@ >

> > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat ||

> > > > > > > Dear Tijana,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What is the thing that Raja

will

hardly ever do?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Read up Gita, arthashastra and

ancient

texts that show

> > what

> > > > > all a

> > > > > > > Raja has to do to ensure that his

subjects

are protected

> > and

> > > > > progress

> > > > > > > on the upward evolutionary path.

Look

at krishna, Janaka

> > and

> > > > > > > ChandraGupta Maurya and you will

understand

whatever

> > that "hardly

> > > > > > > ever do" equates to.

> > > > > > > Otherwise, going by your statement,

AK wouldn't do

> > anything

> > > > > being

> > > > > > > the king of the horoscope and the

rest

of the

karakas (BK,

> > PiK,

> > > > > Puk,

> > > > > > > GK) i.e. his subjects will follow

the

suit!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Actually, the mantra is "Shiva

jnane Jiva Seva" (serving

> > every

> > > > > > > being as the full manifestation of

God)

that

Narendranath

> > > > > received

> > > > > > > from his Master Ramakrishna who had

Sun in Aquarius.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Being Sun AK, Vivekananda had

developed

peculiar

sharpness

> > of

> > > > > > > perception and assimilation that

empowered

him with

> > unusual power

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > pick up 'the gems' from the talks of

his Master.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > With Sun in Sagittarius, he could,

as

compared to

others,

> > > > > easily

> > > > > > > 'see' the deep meaning in the words

of Sri Ramakrishna,

> > even

> > > > > though

> > > > > > > the Master told them in simple

language

(Aq Sun), and

> > never as

> > > > > > > preaching.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > With its dispositor Jupiter in

Libra,

gradually Swami

> > > > > Vivekananda

> > > > > > > started assimilating tips and hints

on practical Vedanta

> > that

> > > > > could

> > > > > > > benefit individual and collective

life

in the society.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "...For spiritual persons

Sun as AK should be in

> > Jupiter`s

> > > > > signs

> > > > > > > > (Shiva jnane...), otherwise

it`s

very hard task..."

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Putting up statements like you have

done is not

wise. Sri

> > > > > Yukteswar

> > > > > > > Giri, has Sun AK placed in Aries and

had attained

highest

> > level

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > spirituality. Even if Sun AK is

placed

in Libra, it

could

> > be the

> > > > > most

> > > > > > > spiritual person.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > AK shows the spiritual power of a

sign

over the rest of

> > the

> > > > > signs/

> > > > > > > planets in the chart and this

spiritual

power manifests

> > through

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > dispositor of AK and its sign

placement.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > NITISH

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > <sohamsa%40>,

"tijana" <nix_nixen@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > > Dear Su,

> > > > > > > > Sun is the Self. Its qualities

are those of Raja

(karaka

> > for

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > first house, lord of the 5th,

dig

bala in 10th).

What is

> > the

> > > > > thing

> > > > > > > > that Raja will hardly ever do?

The lesson that has

to be

> > learnt

> > > > > by

> > > > > > > > Sun AK is serving, in the

highest

sence it gives

"Shiva

> > jnane

> > > > > Shiva

> > > > > > > > seva" (service of man as

God)-the

divine lesson

given to

> > us by

> > > > > > > Swami

> > > > > > > > Vivekananda (Sun AK). For

spiritual

persons Sun as AK

> > should be

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > Jupiter`s signs (Shiva

jnane...),

otherwise it`s very

> > hard task.

> > > > > > > > Warm regards,

> > > > > > > > Tijana

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > <sohamsa%40>,

"v reality" <reality_v@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Bojan-ji

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thank you for your reply.

Much appreciated.

> > > > > > > > > If I may ask another query

re Sun AK. The lesson

to be

> > > > > learnt

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > Sun AK,

> > > > > > > > > is the reduction of ego.

Can

this also be understood

> > at a

> > > > > > > > different level

> > > > > > > > > as the effacement of

'self'

in a spiritual sense?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > > > Su

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >Bojan Vidakovic

<janbovid@>

> > > > > > > > > >

sohamsa@

..com

> > <sohamsa%40>

> > > > > > > > > >To:

sohamsa@

..com

> > <sohamsa%40>

> > > > > > > > > >Re:

Jupiter as AK

> > > > > > > > > >Wed, 22 Aug 2007

08:33:22 -0700 (PDT)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >HARE RAMA KRISHNA

> > > > > > > > > >Dear Su

> > > > > > > > > >I would add that with

Gu AK person have to be very

> > humble to

> > > > > all

> > > > > > > > spiritual

> > > > > > > > > >techers and natives,

like

priests, gurus, teachers.

> > With Ma

> > > > > AK

> > > > > > > > person must

> > > > > > > > > >practise Ahumsa

(nonviolence)

, with Ch the

native is

> > always

> > > > > very

> > > > > > > > caring,

> > > > > > > > > >and gives emotions but

the problem is that they

never

> > get

> > > > > enough

> > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > >themselves from other

people. The person must learn

> > lessons

> > > > > also

> > > > > > > > from the

> > > > > > > > > >people represented

with

AK. Ch / mother, Sy /

father

> > and

> > > > > > > > everything those

> > > > > > > > > >grahas represent.

> > > > > > > > > >Take few examples of

people

you know and see it in

> > praxix.

> > > > > Best

> > > > > > > > wishes,

> > > > > > > > > >Bojan

> > > > > > > > > >Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@

> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Su,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Person should use a

lot

of glass and sing/hum

> > melodies.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center

Guru

> > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.

com

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > v reality

napisał(a):

Dear Rafalji/Members

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > This is an

interesting

discussion. Could we

discuss

> > other

> > > > > AKs

> > > > > > > > too. I read

> > > > > > > > > > in an article that

natives

with Moon as AK need to

> > learn

> > > > > to be

> > > > > > > > more

> > > > > > > > > >caring

> > > > > > > > > > and loving to others.

But I know of a chart where

> > the

> > > > > native

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > already

> > > > > > > > > >by

> > > > > > > > > > nature very caring,

loving

and concerned about

> > others

> > > > > since

> > > > > > > > young. So

> > > > > > > > > >what

> > > > > > > > > > is the lesson to be

learnt?

> > > > > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > > > > Su

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >Rafal

Gendarz

<starsuponme@ wp.pl>

> > > > > > > > > > >

sohamsa@

..com

> > > > > > > > > > >To:

sohamsa@

..com

> > > > > > > > > > >Re:

 

Jupiter as AK

> > > > > > > > > > >Wed, 22 Aug

2007 10:24:14 +0200

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah

adityaya*

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >Dear LN Kumar,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >With Ju AK person

should learn to respect others

> > > > > knowledge

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > >tradition,

> > > > > > > > > > >should be ready

to

learn from others. When Ju

is in

> > > > > kendra to

> > > > > > > > AK or is

> > > > > > > > > >AK

 

> > > > > > > > > >

>himself

then native thinks that he knows

everything

> > and

> > > > > now

> > > > > > > He

> > > > > > > > can share

> > > > > > > > > > >His knowledge

with

everybody. Good teachers of

> > course

> > > > > comes

> > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > >AK-Jupiter-

Natives,

as this graha will be

> > naturally in

> > > > > > > > Karakamsa.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >With MA AK person

should learn to catalyze

energies

> > > > > through

> > > > > > > > ZEN, TAI-CHI

> > > > > > > > > >or

> > > > > > > > > > >other techniques,

while with JU AK person should

> > learn to

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > > more humble

> > > > > > > > > > >regarding

knowledge.

Of course person can be

> > focused on

> > > > > > > Jupiter-

> > > > > > > > karakas

> > > > > > > > > > >like kids,

spirituality,

law, luck etc.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >Mahadasa of AK

brings

lesson to us so its not so

> > easy

> > > > > > > > materially but

> > > > > > > > > > >inspiring

spiritually,

so if Surya is in good

> > placement

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > AK

> > > > > > > > then it

> > > > > > > > > >can

> > > > > > > > > > >be not so bad as

person is spiritual.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > >Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > > >Sri Jagannath

Center

Guru

> > > > > > > > > > >email:

rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

com

> > > > > > > > > > >Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.

com

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >narender kumar

napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > >>Dear Gurujans,

> > > > > > > > > > >>Kindly throw

some light on Jupiter as

> > > > > > > > > > >>Atmakaraka

and

having Jupiter as mahadasha.

> > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > >>Respectful

Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > >>LN Kumar

> > > > > > > > > > >>

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