Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Dear Vistiji,Michalji & Tijanaji,Namaskar The birth details of Nikolai Tesla are as follows: d.o.b:10th July 1856 t.o.b:12:00 a.m Place:Smiljana (Yugoslavia) This gives Meena Lagna in Rasi & Kumbha Lagna in Navamsa Hope this helps Best Regards, aavesh Visti Larsen <visti wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Michal, NamaskarEven the Rasi lagna can indicate the circumstances at birth. Mars is the lord and is involved in a Guru mangala yoga showing thunder/lightening.Mars and Ketu in navamsa lagna would have given forceps delivery or even more difficult delivery. You may be right about Venus in eighth, but Taurus having Venus in twelfth is MUCH more compelling to show denial of marriage. As far as his meeting with Vivekananda is concerned, not much is spoken. Yet, see that his Vijnanamsa has the Sun indicating a spiritual Guru with a strong Sun on lagna (Vivekananda). What he did with this knowledge is seen from ninth from lagna. With Ketu in trines in navamsa he could be an inventor of anything. Being in a Mercurial sign does show excellence within the field of communications. But, the inventions that he manifested should be seen from the Rasi first. In the Rasi he has a Pravrajya yoga in the third house with Mercury being the strongest. This points towards an obsession with communications, and this will be of a nature that breaks many boundaries of the established scientific world. It is the Laghima Siddhi (Mercury) that arises from this where communication can be spread over far distances over almost any medium. Looking forward to your reply. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC GuruJaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comFor consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Michal Dziwulski wrote: Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Visti,Thank you for your input. I don't know enough about drekkanas to comment on your suggestion for the first ten degrees of Aries Lagna. I have a question though, regarding the Navamsa Lagna. The Navamsa Lagna is supposed to show the circumstances at the time of birth, and Tesla was born during an electrical storm - would this not point to Kanya Navamsa Lagna with Mars and Ketu there? This also puts Venus in 8th house - he didn't marry. And Sun in the 9th house - he met Vivekananda and learnt Vedanta. He was extremely intuitive - Ketu in Lagna, and amongst his primary inventions were developments in communications (radio, wireless communication, remote control), and Ketu has parivartana with Mercury in the 3rd house. What are your thoughts?Respectfully,Michal Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>sohamsa Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:35:56 AMRe: Re: Extent of Nabhasa yoga 2 हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Tijana and Michal, NamaskarI suspect that Tijana is right about Aries lagna. My reasons based on the atmakaraka in the chart itself. A significant aspect of his life was that he remained unmarried and without children. If we take Aries lagna, what is highly evident is that i) lord of Upapada; ii) lord of twelfth house; iii) lords of a3 and a9; iv) chara darakaraka; are all placed in the Marana Karaka Sthana house from Atmakaraka Mars. Further with Mars as AK in the sixth house of celibacy, it does point strongly towards the lack of physical relationships. Both Aries and Pisces point towards Pravrajya yoga, but Pisces lagna would also fulfill a dictum of Saravali which could lead to significant disability, and abnormal growth of 'extra' limbs. Sanjayji has proven this principle in a past issue of the Jyotish digest. There are dhimantah yogas from both Pisces and Aries lagnas, yet the one from Aries is extremely evident and would speak volumes of Tesla's ability.His conflicts with Edison can be justified from both lagnas as well, as Mars or Mercury as Atmakarakas tend to attract such 'unwanted' attention. Yet, with Aries lagna the AK goes to the sixth house showing the 'battle' with a very powerful foe such as that of Edison. His fame was not in Europe and least of all Yugoslavia until the world knew of his 'conquests' abroad. This is very evident with the Gajakesari yoga in the twelfth house. Further, his nakshatra lord must also confirm to show the building of museums in his name. Moon is the nakshatra lord and is in the Gajakesari in rasi, and is in own sign in navamsa. It is for this reason that his work still has an imprint on this world. The eleventh lord from arudha lagna points towards his elder brother having his demise due to the guru-chandala yoga. Further his demise due to a heart attack is more evident with Mars lording the 3rd from AL - i.e. some excess pressure in the blood, yet natural causes. I think the first drekkana of lagna is more accurate, with Jupiter in eighth in Jagannath Drekkana showing the obsession with science. The somanath drekkana having a debilitated, yet with neecha bhanga Mars in kendra also seems to point towards his highs and lows in his fame. This leaves us with three navamsa's, among which a node should be in trikona to show his math and scientific abilities. Thus Taurus is very applicable with Ketu and Mars in trines. Looking forward to your reply. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC GuruJaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comFor consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com tijanadamjanovic wrote: Om Gurave NamahDear Michal,yes, this is very interesting and think we should stick to this (number of brothers and sisters) and possible incident.Researches made about Tesla and his life shortly after the end of the World War II brought out the fact of the incident i`ve described that was kept as a public secret, possibly because of the family status. Most likely that He lost brother in Mars/Ketu dasa (Pisaca) (he was five and a half year old then) for which Aq lagna fits more as Ma/Kt aspect 3rd from A11-Dhanu. This should give death in a distant place but considering that its not 3rd from AL (death of the person itself) i think it gives different indications. Dhanu means fall from the height. It`s aspected by all planets amnog which lagna lord-Mars and Jupiter in own rasi in Chanadala yoga are strongest. This means involvment of the person himself and confirms the Chandala effect.if i could explain also his nature and abilities from Aq i would definetely accept it. Help?Warm regards,Tijanasohamsa@ .com, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@ ...> wrote:>> Hare Rama Krsna ||> > Dear Tijana,> > ?> > From wiki:> > Nikola was one of five children, having one brother (Dane, who was killed in a horse-riding accident when Nikola was five) and three sisters (Milka, Angelina and Marica).[10] :3 His family moved to Gospiæ in 1862. Tesla went to school in Karlovac. He finished a four year term in the span of three years.> > Looking forward to your reply.> Regards,> Michal> > > tijanadamjanovic <tijanadamjanovic@ ...>> sohamsa@ .com> Monday, September 24, 2007 7:45:49 AM> Re: Extent of Nabhasa yoga 2> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > Dear Michal,> > I hope you will give comments on some points that are coming to my > > mind.> > For the time i used (23:33) lagna falls in the last pada of Revati > > nakshatra. Lagna and 10th lord-Jupiter forms Darmakarmaadipati yoga > > being in mutual aspect with 9th lord-AK Mars. Sarada yoga is formed > > with the 5th and 4th lord (apart from studies of physics Tesla was > > very learned in many branches and he spoke seven languages). Lords of > > the 5th and 9th (both) are in 7th also cofirming gyana. Mercury is in > > Mars` (AK) nakshatra showing the nature of intelligence and learning. > > This becomes significant considering that Mars is AK vargottama, the > > same as Ketu and Rahu. I find these planets being responsible for the > > inventive mind related to electricity, its transmission, etc. Tesla > > also spoke about and did many researches on nuclear energy but he > > forsaw coming of the World War II... Mars and Ketu are in karakamsa > > in 7th in navamsa also producing bramacarya. Dasamsa has the same > > pattern-Kt, Ma, Rh in 1-7 axis with Me in lagna and Sy-AmK lagna lord > > in 7th with the digbala from AL.> > Chandala yoga is interesting and could be the explanation for the > > incident from childhood. Most likely that he is responsible for death > > of his brother-while playing with brother as child, he accidently > > pushed him from the attic that resulted in tragedy. > > Warm regards,> > Tijana> > > > sohamsa@ .com, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@ ...> > > wrote:> > >> > > Hare Rama Krsna ||> > > > > > Dear Guruji,> > > > > > There is also the chart of a great inventor - Nicola Tesla - who > > has all planets in Dual signs - Gemini, Virgo, and Pisces. Is this > > Nala yoga? Results are poor physique, accumulates money, good looks, > > helps relatives, and is skillful.> > > > > > He was certainly skillful, being responsible for virtually all > > modern technology. However he died impoverished and was terrible > > with money. > > > > > > Perhaps the Serbians amongst us can throw some light on this chart?> > > > > > Respectfully,> > > Michal> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > ____________ __> > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your > > story. 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Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Tijana, Namaskar Thank you for your reply. I think the dictum by Parasara is canceled due to the Dhimantah Yoga. My worry for Meena lagna is that the lagna itself is too afflicted and will give disabilities. Did i mention disease? I thought it was more sudden, i.e. due to a hemorrhage (mars)? Meena lagna would show long term disease before death. Rahu's graha dristi will not give dustha marana yoga... it has to be rasi dristi to actualize. The malefics along the sixth and twelfth do cause troubles to mother, but i'm confident that the Gajakesari cleared up all that. How about the Gajakesari's influence on the Balarishta yoga? Was the demised brother an elder or younger brother? This is important, as i cannot justify AK lording the third from AL being able to take the YOUNGER brother out of this world. Yet, Guruchandala yoga on the eleventh house from AL is very telling of this, and the unnatural circumstances within which this happened. In fact because of this yoga he personally could be accused of murder (associated with AL). Yet, with Dhanurarudha we can justify this happening to younger brother. Looking forward to your reply. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC Guru Jaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com tijanadamjanovic wrote: Om Gurave Namah Dear Vistiji, namaskar thank you for clearing this out. Just a few more doubts. Parasara says that the native get dumbness when there`s a movable sign in the 4th house and the lord of the 4th house and Mars are placed in the 6th or 12th. One dictum isn`t enough for sure. Malefics` aspect on 11th from AL (Mars and Saturn) will destroy elder brothers, but for Mesha lagna 3rd from AL is also afflicted by Mars and Rahu so this would damage younger siblings. Mesha lagna shows balarishta. Chandra is afflicted with three malefics in dustana (this gives early demise of mother also) and there`s no single benefic aspect on lagna. Also all planets are in apoklimas and none of them I would take as a strong. What saved his life? For Meena lagna I took, lagna is in gandanta and Ch in 7th with two malefics also confirming early death, but Mars AK is in 7th house giving Viprita ayus (early death of brother). You gave the disease as the reason of death. However, for Mesah lagna 3rd from AL doesn`t have connection with Saturn. It is afflicted by Mars and Rahu that would give dusta marana. Hope you can explain this. Warm regards, Tijana sohamsa , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ?????? > > Dear Tijana and Michal, Namaskar > I suspect that Tijana is right about Aries lagna. My reasons based on > the atmakaraka in the chart itself. > > A significant aspect of his life was that he remained unmarried and > without children. If we take Aries lagna, what is highly evident is that > i) lord of Upapada; ii) lord of twelfth house; iii) lords of a3 and a9; > iv) chara darakaraka; are all placed in the Marana Karaka Sthana house > from Atmakaraka Mars. > > Further with Mars as AK in the sixth house of celibacy, it does point > strongly towards the lack of physical relationships. > > Both Aries and Pisces point towards Pravrajya yoga, but Pisces lagna > would also fulfill a dictum of Saravali which could lead to significant > disability, and abnormal growth of 'extra' limbs. Sanjayji has proven > this principle in a past issue of the Jyotish digest. > > There are dhimantah yogas from both Pisces and Aries lagnas, yet the one > from Aries is extremely evident and would speak volumes of Tesla's ability. > His conflicts with Edison can be justified from both lagnas as well, as > Mars or Mercury as Atmakarakas tend to attract such 'unwanted' > attention. Yet, with Aries lagna the AK goes to the sixth house showing > the 'battle' with a very powerful foe such as that of Edison. > > His fame was not in Europe and least of all Yugoslavia until the world > knew of his 'conquests' abroad. This is very evident with the Gajakesari > yoga in the twelfth house. Further, his nakshatra lord must also confirm > to show the building of museums in his name. Moon is the nakshatra lord > and is in the Gajakesari in rasi, and is in own sign in navamsa. It is > for this reason that his work still has an imprint on this world. > > The eleventh lord from arudha lagna points towards his elder brother > having his demise due to the guru-chandala yoga. Further his demise due > to a heart attack is more evident with Mars lording the 3rd from AL - > i.e. some excess pressure in the blood, yet natural causes. > > I think the first drekkana of lagna is more accurate, with Jupiter in > eighth in Jagannath Drekkana showing the obsession with science. The > somanath drekkana having a debilitated, yet with neecha bhanga Mars in > kendra also seems to point towards his highs and lows in his fame. > > This leaves us with three navamsa's, among which a node should be in > trikona to show his math and scientific abilities. Thus Taurus is very > applicable with Ketu and Mars in trines. > > Looking forward to your reply. > > Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti <visti > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > <http://srigaruda.com> > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Michal, > > yes, this is very interesting and think we should stick to this > > (number of brothers and sisters) and possible incident. > > Researches made about Tesla and his life shortly after the end of the > > World War II brought out the fact of the incident i`ve described that > > was kept as a public secret, possibly because of the family status. > > Most likely that He lost brother in Mars/Ketu dasa (Pisaca) (he was > > five and a half year old then) for which Aq lagna fits more as Ma/Kt > > aspect 3rd from A11-Dhanu. This should give death in a distant place > > but considering that its not 3rd from AL (death of the person itself) > > i think it gives different indications. Dhanu means fall from the > > height. It`s aspected by all planets amnog which lagna lord-Mars and > > Jupiter in own rasi in Chanadala yoga are strongest. This means > > involvment of the person himself and confirms the Chandala effect. > > if i could explain also his nature and abilities from Aq i would > > definetely accept it. Help? > > Warm regards, > > Tijana > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > Dear Tijana, > > > > > > ? > > > > > > From wiki: > > > > > > Nikola was one of five children, having one brother (Dane, who was > > killed in a horse-riding accident when Nikola was five) and three > > sisters (Milka, Angelina and Marica).[10]:3 His family moved to > > Gospiæ in 1862. Tesla went to school in Karlovac. He finished a four > > year term in the span of three years. > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > Regards, > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic <tijanadamjanovic@> > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40> > > > Monday, September 24, 2007 7:45:49 AM > > > Re: Extent of Nabhasa yoga 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > I hope you will give comments on some points that are coming to my > > > > > > mind. > > > > > > For the time i used (23:33) lagna falls in the last pada of Revati > > > > > > nakshatra. Lagna and 10th lord-Jupiter forms Darmakarmaadipati yoga > > > > > > being in mutual aspect with 9th lord-AK Mars. Sarada yoga is formed > > > > > > with the 5th and 4th lord (apart from studies of physics Tesla was > > > > > > very learned in many branches and he spoke seven languages). Lords > > of > > > > > > the 5th and 9th (both) are in 7th also cofirming gyana. Mercury is > > in > > > > > > Mars` (AK) nakshatra showing the nature of intelligence and > > learning. > > > > > > This becomes significant considering that Mars is AK vargottama, > > the > > > > > > same as Ketu and Rahu. I find these planets being responsible for > > the > > > > > > inventive mind related to electricity, its transmission, etc. Tesla > > > > > > also spoke about and did many researches on nuclear energy but he > > > > > > forsaw coming of the World War II... Mars and Ketu are in karakamsa > > > > > > in 7th in navamsa also producing bramacarya. Dasamsa has the same > > > > > > pattern-Kt, Ma, Rh in 1-7 axis with Me in lagna and Sy-AmK lagna > > lord > > > > > > in 7th with the digbala from AL. > > > > > > Chandala yoga is interesting and could be the explanation for the > > > > > > incident from childhood. Most likely that he is responsible for > > death > > > > > > of his brother-while playing with brother as child, he accidently > > > > > > pushed him from the attic that resulted in tragedy. > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@ ...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also the chart of a great inventor - Nicola Tesla - who > > > > > > has all planets in Dual signs - Gemini, Virgo, and Pisces. Is this > > > > > > Nala yoga? Results are poor physique, accumulates money, good > > looks, > > > > > > helps relatives, and is skillful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He was certainly skillful, being responsible for virtually all > > > > > > modern technology. However he died impoverished and was terrible > > > > > > with money. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps the Serbians amongst us can throw some light on this > > chart? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > ____________ __ > > > > > > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your > > > > > > story. 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Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Om Gurave Namah Dear Vistiji, I appreciate your comments very much as i find them inspiring. I don`t know what is the logic behind Parasara`s dictum to be able to say is Dimantha the cause of cancelation. What comes to my mind is- the 4th lord as the 3rd from the 2nd house is the controller of growth of speech and Mars role in this is based on Mercury`s enmity towards him. I don`t see why lagna lord would alter this. I agree that Gajakeshari could save mother (Chandra lords 4th) but not the person as neither Ch nor Gu influence lagna. Tesla lost older brother and, true, Chandala connected to 11th from AL could be the strongest argument. But for Dhanuraruda, Sukra (Rudra for older brother) lords 11th from AL and Shoola dasa of the time of brother`s demise is Cp/Ge. Gemini holds the Rudra and is in trine to Tula-11th from AL. From A11 Cp and Ge are third and eight signs respecitively. i made only quick look here as i don`t feel like going into it deep now. So please correct. I think that this point brings the final word. Warm regards, Tijana sohamsa , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ?????? > > Dear Tijana, Namaskar > Thank you for your reply. > I think the dictum by Parasara is canceled due to the Dhimantah Yoga. My > worry for Meena lagna is that the lagna itself is too afflicted and will > give disabilities. > > Did i mention disease? I thought it was more sudden, i.e. due to a > hemorrhage (mars)? Meena lagna would show long term disease before > death. Rahu's graha dristi will not give dustha marana yoga... it has to > be rasi dristi to actualize. > > The malefics along the sixth and twelfth do cause troubles to mother, > but i'm confident that the Gajakesari cleared up all that. How about the > Gajakesari's influence on the Balarishta yoga? > > Was the demised brother an elder or younger brother? This is important, > as i cannot justify AK lording the third from AL being able to take the > YOUNGER brother out of this world. Yet, Guruchandala yoga on the > eleventh house from AL is very telling of this, and the unnatural > circumstances within which this happened. In fact because of this yoga > he personally could be accused of murder (associated with AL). Yet, > with Dhanurarudha we can justify this happening to younger brother. > Looking forward to your reply. > > Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti <visti > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > <http://srigaruda.com> > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Vistiji, namaskar > > thank you for clearing this out. Just a few more doubts. > > Parasara says that the native get dumbness when there`s a movable > > sign in the 4th house and the lord of the 4th house and Mars are > > placed in the 6th or 12th. > > One dictum isn`t enough for sure. > > Malefics` aspect on 11th from AL (Mars and Saturn) will destroy elder > > brothers, but for Mesha lagna 3rd from AL is also afflicted by Mars > > and Rahu so this would damage younger siblings. > > Mesha lagna shows balarishta. Chandra is afflicted with three > > malefics in dustana (this gives early demise of mother also) and > > there`s no single benefic aspect on lagna. Also all planets are in > > apoklimas and none of them I would take as a strong. What saved his > > life? > > For Meena lagna I took, lagna is in gandanta and Ch in 7th with two > > malefics also confirming early death, but Mars AK is in 7th house > > giving Viprita ayus (early death of brother). > > You gave the disease as the reason of death. However, for Mesah lagna > > 3rd from AL doesn`t have connection with Saturn. It is afflicted by > > Mars and Rahu that would give dusta marana. > > Hope you can explain this. > > Warm regards, > > Tijana > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > Dear Tijana and Michal, Namaskar > > > I suspect that Tijana is right about Aries lagna. My reasons based > > on > > > the atmakaraka in the chart itself. > > > > > > A significant aspect of his life was that he remained unmarried and > > > without children. If we take Aries lagna, what is highly evident is > > that > > > i) lord of Upapada; ii) lord of twelfth house; iii) lords of a3 and > > a9; > > > iv) chara darakaraka; are all placed in the Marana Karaka Sthana > > house > > > from Atmakaraka Mars. > > > > > > Further with Mars as AK in the sixth house of celibacy, it does > > point > > > strongly towards the lack of physical relationships. > > > > > > Both Aries and Pisces point towards Pravrajya yoga, but Pisces > > lagna > > > would also fulfill a dictum of Saravali which could lead to > > significant > > > disability, and abnormal growth of 'extra' limbs. Sanjayji has > > proven > > > this principle in a past issue of the Jyotish digest. > > > > > > There are dhimantah yogas from both Pisces and Aries lagnas, yet > > the one > > > from Aries is extremely evident and would speak volumes of Tesla's > > ability. > > > His conflicts with Edison can be justified from both lagnas as > > well, as > > > Mars or Mercury as Atmakarakas tend to attract such 'unwanted' > > > attention. Yet, with Aries lagna the AK goes to the sixth house > > showing > > > the 'battle' with a very powerful foe such as that of Edison. > > > > > > His fame was not in Europe and least of all Yugoslavia until the > > world > > > knew of his 'conquests' abroad. This is very evident with the > > Gajakesari > > > yoga in the twelfth house. Further, his nakshatra lord must also > > confirm > > > to show the building of museums in his name. Moon is the nakshatra > > lord > > > and is in the Gajakesari in rasi, and is in own sign in navamsa. It > > is > > > for this reason that his work still has an imprint on this world. > > > > > > The eleventh lord from arudha lagna points towards his elder > > brother > > > having his demise due to the guru-chandala yoga. Further his demise > > due > > > to a heart attack is more evident with Mars lording the 3rd from > > AL - > > > i.e. some excess pressure in the blood, yet natural causes. > > > > > > I think the first drekkana of lagna is more accurate, with Jupiter > > in > > > eighth in Jagannath Drekkana showing the obsession with science. > > The > > > somanath drekkana having a debilitated, yet with neecha bhanga Mars > > in > > > kendra also seems to point towards his highs and lows in his fame. > > > > > > This leaves us with three navamsa's, among which a node should be > > in > > > trikona to show his math and scientific abilities. Thus Taurus is > > very > > > applicable with Ketu and Mars in trines. > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > -- > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > yes, this is very interesting and think we should stick to this > > > > (number of brothers and sisters) and possible incident. > > > > Researches made about Tesla and his life shortly after the end of > > the > > > > World War II brought out the fact of the incident i`ve described > > that > > > > was kept as a public secret, possibly because of the family > > status. > > > > Most likely that He lost brother in Mars/Ketu dasa (Pisaca) (he > > was > > > > five and a half year old then) for which Aq lagna fits more as > > Ma/Kt > > > > aspect 3rd from A11-Dhanu. This should give death in a distant > > place > > > > but considering that its not 3rd from AL (death of the person > > itself) > > > > i think it gives different indications. Dhanu means fall from the > > > > height. It`s aspected by all planets amnog which lagna lord- Mars > > and > > > > Jupiter in own rasi in Chanadala yoga are strongest. This means > > > > involvment of the person himself and confirms the Chandala effect. > > > > if i could explain also his nature and abilities from Aq i would > > > > definetely accept it. Help? > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40> > > <sohamsa% > > 40>, > > > > Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana, > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > From wiki: > > > > > > > > > > Nikola was one of five children, having one brother (Dane, who > > was > > > > killed in a horse-riding accident when Nikola was five) and three > > > > sisters (Milka, Angelina and Marica).[10]:3 His family moved to > > > > Gospiæ in 1862. Tesla went to school in Karlovac. He finished a > > four > > > > year term in the span of three years. > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic <tijanadamjanovic@> > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40> > > <sohamsa%40> > > > > > Monday, September 24, 2007 7:45:49 AM > > > > > Re: Extent of Nabhasa yoga 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > > > I hope you will give comments on some points that are coming to > > my > > > > > > > > > > mind. > > > > > > > > > > For the time i used (23:33) lagna falls in the last pada of > > Revati > > > > > > > > > > nakshatra. Lagna and 10th lord-Jupiter forms Darmakarmaadipati > > yoga > > > > > > > > > > being in mutual aspect with 9th lord-AK Mars. Sarada yoga is > > formed > > > > > > > > > > with the 5th and 4th lord (apart from studies of physics Tesla > > was > > > > > > > > > > very learned in many branches and he spoke seven languages). > > Lords > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > the 5th and 9th (both) are in 7th also cofirming gyana. Mercury > > is > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > Mars` (AK) nakshatra showing the nature of intelligence and > > > > learning. > > > > > > > > > > This becomes significant considering that Mars is AK vargottama, > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > same as Ketu and Rahu. I find these planets being responsible > > for > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > inventive mind related to electricity, its transmission, etc. > > Tesla > > > > > > > > > > also spoke about and did many researches on nuclear energy but > > he > > > > > > > > > > forsaw coming of the World War II... Mars and Ketu are in > > karakamsa > > > > > > > > > > in 7th in navamsa also producing bramacarya. Dasamsa has the > > same > > > > > > > > > > pattern-Kt, Ma, Rh in 1-7 axis with Me in lagna and Sy-AmK lagna > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > in 7th with the digbala from AL. > > > > > > > > > > Chandala yoga is interesting and could be the explanation for > > the > > > > > > > > > > incident from childhood. Most likely that he is responsible for > > > > death > > > > > > > > > > of his brother-while playing with brother as child, he > > accidently > > > > > > > > > > pushed him from the attic that resulted in tragedy. > > > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Michal Dziwulski > > <nearmichal@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also the chart of a great inventor - Nicola Tesla - > > who > > > > > > > > > > has all planets in Dual signs - Gemini, Virgo, and Pisces. Is > > this > > > > > > > > > > Nala yoga? Results are poor physique, accumulates money, good > > > > looks, > > > > > > > > > > helps relatives, and is skillful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He was certainly skillful, being responsible for virtually all > > > > > > > > > > modern technology. However he died impoverished and was terrible > > > > > > > > > > with money. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps the Serbians amongst us can throw some light on this > > > > chart? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > ____________ __ > > > > > > > > > > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, > > your > > > > > > > > > > story. 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Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Tijana, Namaskar I didn't know that it was his elder brother who died, but i found that it was. So we must see eleventh from AL which you have also done. From Dhanurarudha you mentioned the Venus is the lord of the eleventh therefrom and is the natural bhratrmaraka. In fact this negative-aspect of Venus normally doesn't come to pass when it is influenced by Jupiter, or Venus lords the house in question. Also if Venus had been given this power it would have annihilated all elder siblings, and not just the one elder brother. So based on this Dhanurarudha really doesn't work for Tesla. The Shoola Mahadasa is the most important in ascertaining the demise of brother. According to Jaimini Saturn is the sthira karaka for elder brother (1.1.24). Further we analyze the Shoola dasa from the stronger between fifth and eleventh. For both Aries and Pisces lagna, the first Shoola dasa is in the third/eighth from Sthira karaka Saturn and will both show danger to the brother. Hence neither can be excluded based on Dasa. Reg. Balarishta if Moon is the cause of it, then surely the strength of the Moon will take the native out of Balarishta. I believe Jupiter is making that Moon strong, but he would have seen danger to his own life during childhood. Finally, our discussion would benefit greatly, and i would also encourage that you go into depth with your analysis. Looking forward to your reply. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC Guru Jaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com tijanadamjanovic wrote: Om Gurave Namah Dear Vistiji, I appreciate your comments very much as i find them inspiring. I don`t know what is the logic behind Parasara`s dictum to be able to say is Dimantha the cause of cancelation. What comes to my mind is- the 4th lord as the 3rd from the 2nd house is the controller of growth of speech and Mars role in this is based on Mercury`s enmity towards him. I don`t see why lagna lord would alter this. I agree that Gajakeshari could save mother (Chandra lords 4th) but not the person as neither Ch nor Gu influence lagna. Tesla lost older brother and, true, Chandala connected to 11th from AL could be the strongest argument. But for Dhanuraruda, Sukra (Rudra for older brother) lords 11th from AL and Shoola dasa of the time of brother`s demise is Cp/Ge. Gemini holds the Rudra and is in trine to Tula-11th from AL. From A11 Cp and Ge are third and eight signs respecitively. i made only quick look here as i don`t feel like going into it deep now. So please correct. I think that this point brings the final word. Warm regards, Tijana sohamsa , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ?????? > > Dear Tijana, Namaskar > Thank you for your reply. > I think the dictum by Parasara is canceled due to the Dhimantah Yoga. My > worry for Meena lagna is that the lagna itself is too afflicted and will > give disabilities. > > Did i mention disease? I thought it was more sudden, i.e. due to a > hemorrhage (mars)? Meena lagna would show long term disease before > death. Rahu's graha dristi will not give dustha marana yoga... it has to > be rasi dristi to actualize. > > The malefics along the sixth and twelfth do cause troubles to mother, > but i'm confident that the Gajakesari cleared up all that. How about the > Gajakesari's influence on the Balarishta yoga? > > Was the demised brother an elder or younger brother? This is important, > as i cannot justify AK lording the third from AL being able to take the > YOUNGER brother out of this world. Yet, Guruchandala yoga on the > eleventh house from AL is very telling of this, and the unnatural > circumstances within which this happened. In fact because of this yoga > he personally could be accused of murder (associated with AL). Yet, > with Dhanurarudha we can justify this happening to younger brother. > Looking forward to your reply. > > Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti <visti > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > <http://srigaruda.com> > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Vistiji, namaskar > > thank you for clearing this out. Just a few more doubts. > > Parasara says that the native get dumbness when there`s a movable > > sign in the 4th house and the lord of the 4th house and Mars are > > placed in the 6th or 12th. > > One dictum isn`t enough for sure. > > Malefics` aspect on 11th from AL (Mars and Saturn) will destroy elder > > brothers, but for Mesha lagna 3rd from AL is also afflicted by Mars > > and Rahu so this would damage younger siblings. > > Mesha lagna shows balarishta. Chandra is afflicted with three > > malefics in dustana (this gives early demise of mother also) and > > there`s no single benefic aspect on lagna. Also all planets are in > > apoklimas and none of them I would take as a strong. What saved his > > life? > > For Meena lagna I took, lagna is in gandanta and Ch in 7th with two > > malefics also confirming early death, but Mars AK is in 7th house > > giving Viprita ayus (early death of brother). > > You gave the disease as the reason of death. However, for Mesah lagna > > 3rd from AL doesn`t have connection with Saturn. It is afflicted by > > Mars and Rahu that would give dusta marana. > > Hope you can explain this. > > Warm regards, > > Tijana > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > Dear Tijana and Michal, Namaskar > > > I suspect that Tijana is right about Aries lagna. My reasons based > > on > > > the atmakaraka in the chart itself. > > > > > > A significant aspect of his life was that he remained unmarried and > > > without children. If we take Aries lagna, what is highly evident is > > that > > > i) lord of Upapada; ii) lord of twelfth house; iii) lords of a3 and > > a9; > > > iv) chara darakaraka; are all placed in the Marana Karaka Sthana > > house > > > from Atmakaraka Mars. > > > > > > Further with Mars as AK in the sixth house of celibacy, it does > > point > > > strongly towards the lack of physical relationships. > > > > > > Both Aries and Pisces point towards Pravrajya yoga, but Pisces > > lagna > > > would also fulfill a dictum of Saravali which could lead to > > significant > > > disability, and abnormal growth of 'extra' limbs. Sanjayji has > > proven > > > this principle in a past issue of the Jyotish digest. > > > > > > There are dhimantah yogas from both Pisces and Aries lagnas, yet > > the one > > > from Aries is extremely evident and would speak volumes of Tesla's > > ability. > > > His conflicts with Edison can be justified from both lagnas as > > well, as > > > Mars or Mercury as Atmakarakas tend to attract such 'unwanted' > > > attention. Yet, with Aries lagna the AK goes to the sixth house > > showing > > > the 'battle' with a very powerful foe such as that of Edison. > > > > > > His fame was not in Europe and least of all Yugoslavia until the > > world > > > knew of his 'conquests' abroad. This is very evident with the > > Gajakesari > > > yoga in the twelfth house. Further, his nakshatra lord must also > > confirm > > > to show the building of museums in his name. Moon is the nakshatra > > lord > > > and is in the Gajakesari in rasi, and is in own sign in navamsa. It > > is > > > for this reason that his work still has an imprint on this world. > > > > > > The eleventh lord from arudha lagna points towards his elder > > brother > > > having his demise due to the guru-chandala yoga. Further his demise > > due > > > to a heart attack is more evident with Mars lording the 3rd from > > AL - > > > i.e. some excess pressure in the blood, yet natural causes. > > > > > > I think the first drekkana of lagna is more accurate, with Jupiter > > in > > > eighth in Jagannath Drekkana showing the obsession with science. > > The > > > somanath drekkana having a debilitated, yet with neecha bhanga Mars > > in > > > kendra also seems to point towards his highs and lows in his fame. > > > > > > This leaves us with three navamsa's, among which a node should be > > in > > > trikona to show his math and scientific abilities. Thus Taurus is > > very > > > applicable with Ketu and Mars in trines. > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > -- > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > yes, this is very interesting and think we should stick to this > > > > (number of brothers and sisters) and possible incident. > > > > Researches made about Tesla and his life shortly after the end of > > the > > > > World War II brought out the fact of the incident i`ve described > > that > > > > was kept as a public secret, possibly because of the family > > status. > > > > Most likely that He lost brother in Mars/Ketu dasa (Pisaca) (he > > was > > > > five and a half year old then) for which Aq lagna fits more as > > Ma/Kt > > > > aspect 3rd from A11-Dhanu. This should give death in a distant > > place > > > > but considering that its not 3rd from AL (death of the person > > itself) > > > > i think it gives different indications. Dhanu means fall from the > > > > height. It`s aspected by all planets amnog which lagna lord- Mars > > and > > > > Jupiter in own rasi in Chanadala yoga are strongest. This means > > > > involvment of the person himself and confirms the Chandala effect. > > > > if i could explain also his nature and abilities from Aq i would > > > > definetely accept it. Help? > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40> > > <sohamsa% > > 40>, > > > > Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana, > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > From wiki: > > > > > > > > > > Nikola was one of five children, having one brother (Dane, who > > was > > > > killed in a horse-riding accident when Nikola was five) and three > > > > sisters (Milka, Angelina and Marica).[10]:3 His family moved to > > > > Gospiæ in 1862. Tesla went to school in Karlovac. He finished a > > four > > > > year term in the span of three years. > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic <tijanadamjanovic@> > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40> > > <sohamsa%40> > > > > > Monday, September 24, 2007 7:45:49 AM > > > > > Re: Extent of Nabhasa yoga 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > > > I hope you will give comments on some points that are coming to > > my > > > > > > > > > > mind. > > > > > > > > > > For the time i used (23:33) lagna falls in the last pada of > > Revati > > > > > > > > > > nakshatra. Lagna and 10th lord-Jupiter forms Darmakarmaadipati > > yoga > > > > > > > > > > being in mutual aspect with 9th lord-AK Mars. Sarada yoga is > > formed > > > > > > > > > > with the 5th and 4th lord (apart from studies of physics Tesla > > was > > > > > > > > > > very learned in many branches and he spoke seven languages). > > Lords > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > the 5th and 9th (both) are in 7th also cofirming gyana. Mercury > > is > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > Mars` (AK) nakshatra showing the nature of intelligence and > > > > learning. > > > > > > > > > > This becomes significant considering that Mars is AK vargottama, > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > same as Ketu and Rahu. I find these planets being responsible > > for > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > inventive mind related to electricity, its transmission, etc. > > Tesla > > > > > > > > > > also spoke about and did many researches on nuclear energy but > > he > > > > > > > > > > forsaw coming of the World War II... Mars and Ketu are in > > karakamsa > > > > > > > > > > in 7th in navamsa also producing bramacarya. Dasamsa has the > > same > > > > > > > > > > pattern-Kt, Ma, Rh in 1-7 axis with Me in lagna and Sy-AmK lagna > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > in 7th with the digbala from AL. > > > > > > > > > > Chandala yoga is interesting and could be the explanation for > > the > > > > > > > > > > incident from childhood. Most likely that he is responsible for > > > > death > > > > > > > > > > of his brother-while playing with brother as child, he > > accidently > > > > > > > > > > pushed him from the attic that resulted in tragedy. > > > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Michal Dziwulski > > <nearmichal@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also the chart of a great inventor - Nicola Tesla - > > who > > > > > > > > > > has all planets in Dual signs - Gemini, Virgo, and Pisces. Is > > this > > > > > > > > > > Nala yoga? Results are poor physique, accumulates money, good > > > > looks, > > > > > > > > > > helps relatives, and is skillful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He was certainly skillful, being responsible for virtually all > > > > > > > > > > modern technology. However he died impoverished and was terrible > > > > > > > > > > with money. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps the Serbians amongst us can throw some light on this > > > > chart? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > ____________ __ > > > > > > > > > > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, > > your > > > > > > > > > > story. 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Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Om Gurave Namah Dear Vistiji, What is the greatest part of jyotish discussions is seeing how veils of maya/arudha are falling slowly. Afliction of lagna, paka lagna, Moon and Jupiter in both cases made me explore more about details of Tesla`s personality. He definetely was a kind of a border case considering mental stability with serious sympthoms of schyzophrenia. I give an extract from what he wrote about himself: " The sight of a pearl would almost give me a fit...I would not touch the hair of other people except, perhaps at the point of a revolver...I counted the steps in my walks and calculated the cubical contents of soup plates, coffee cups and pieces of food, otherwise my meal was unenjoyable. All repeated acts or operations I performed had to be divisible by three and if I missed I felt impelled to do it all over again, even if it took hours...I would get a fever by looking at a peach and if a piece of camphor was anywhere in the house it caused me the keenest discomfort... My feelings came in waves and surges and variated unceasingly between extremes. My wishes were of consuming force and like the heads of the hydra, they multiplied. I was oppressed by thoughts of pain in life and death and religious fear. I was swayed by superstitious belief and lived in constant dread of the spirit of evil, of ghosts and ogres and other unholy monsters of the dark...In the dark I had the sense of a bat and could detect the presence of an object at a distance of 12 feet by a peculiar creepy sensation on the forehead. " (If only many other people were so aware and truthful about own weaknesses our learning would benefit greatly). I see this as definitive and strong mark of nodes (pearls, camphor, obsessiveness and desires-Rahu; hair, ghosts, extra-sensory perception related to darkness-Ketu) and even though both lagnas are inflenced by them i take it to be Guru in lagna (and Gajakeshari) that saved his mind after all released a genius in him. I`m waiting for your opinion on this. Warm regards, Tijana sohamsa , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ?????? > > Dear Tijana, Namaskar > I didn't know that it was his elder brother who died, but i found that > it was. > > So we must see eleventh from AL which you have also done. From > Dhanurarudha you mentioned the Venus is the lord of the eleventh > therefrom and is the natural bhratrmaraka. In fact this negative- aspect > of Venus normally doesn't come to pass when it is influenced by Jupiter, > or Venus lords the house in question. Also if Venus had been given this > power it would have annihilated all elder siblings, and not just the one > elder brother. > > So based on this Dhanurarudha really doesn't work for Tesla. > > The Shoola Mahadasa is the most important in ascertaining the demise of > brother. According to Jaimini Saturn is the sthira karaka for elder > brother (1.1.24). > Further we analyze the Shoola dasa from the stronger between fifth and > eleventh. For both Aries and Pisces lagna, the first Shoola dasa is in > the third/eighth from Sthira karaka Saturn and will both show danger to > the brother. Hence neither can be excluded based on Dasa. > > Reg. Balarishta if Moon is the cause of it, then surely the strength of > the Moon will take the native out of Balarishta. I believe Jupiter is > making that Moon strong, but he would have seen danger to his own life > during childhood. > > Finally, our discussion would benefit greatly, and i would also > encourage that you go into depth with your analysis. > Looking forward to your reply. > > Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti <visti > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > <http://srigaruda.com> > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Vistiji, > > I appreciate your comments very much as i find them inspiring. > > I don`t know what is the logic behind Parasara`s dictum to be able to > > say is Dimantha the cause of cancelation. What comes to my mind is- > > the 4th lord as the 3rd from the 2nd house is the controller of > > growth of speech and Mars role in this is based on Mercury`s enmity > > towards him. I don`t see why lagna lord would alter this. > > I agree that Gajakeshari could save mother (Chandra lords 4th) but > > not the person as neither Ch nor Gu influence lagna. > > Tesla lost older brother and, true, Chandala connected to 11th from > > AL could be the strongest argument. But for Dhanuraruda, Sukra (Rudra > > for older brother) lords 11th from AL and Shoola dasa of the time of > > brother`s demise is Cp/Ge. Gemini holds the Rudra and is in trine to > > Tula-11th from AL. From A11 Cp and Ge are third and eight signs > > respecitively. i made only quick look here as i don`t feel like going > > into it deep now. So please correct. I think that this point brings > > the final word. > > Warm regards, > > Tijana > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > Dear Tijana, Namaskar > > > Thank you for your reply. > > > I think the dictum by Parasara is canceled due to the Dhimantah > > Yoga. My > > > worry for Meena lagna is that the lagna itself is too afflicted and > > will > > > give disabilities. > > > > > > Did i mention disease? I thought it was more sudden, i.e. due to a > > > hemorrhage (mars)? Meena lagna would show long term disease before > > > death. Rahu's graha dristi will not give dustha marana yoga... it > > has to > > > be rasi dristi to actualize. > > > > > > The malefics along the sixth and twelfth do cause troubles to > > mother, > > > but i'm confident that the Gajakesari cleared up all that. How > > about the > > > Gajakesari's influence on the Balarishta yoga? > > > > > > Was the demised brother an elder or younger brother? This is > > important, > > > as i cannot justify AK lording the third from AL being able to take > > the > > > YOUNGER brother out of this world. Yet, Guruchandala yoga on the > > > eleventh house from AL is very telling of this, and the unnatural > > > circumstances within which this happened. In fact because of this > > yoga > > > he personally could be accused of murder (associated with AL). > > Yet, > > > with Dhanurarudha we can justify this happening to younger brother. > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > -- > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Vistiji, namaskar > > > > thank you for clearing this out. Just a few more doubts. > > > > Parasara says that the native get dumbness when there`s a movable > > > > sign in the 4th house and the lord of the 4th house and Mars are > > > > placed in the 6th or 12th. > > > > One dictum isn`t enough for sure. > > > > Malefics` aspect on 11th from AL (Mars and Saturn) will destroy > > elder > > > > brothers, but for Mesha lagna 3rd from AL is also afflicted by > > Mars > > > > and Rahu so this would damage younger siblings. > > > > Mesha lagna shows balarishta. Chandra is afflicted with three > > > > malefics in dustana (this gives early demise of mother also) and > > > > there`s no single benefic aspect on lagna. Also all planets are in > > > > apoklimas and none of them I would take as a strong. What saved > > his > > > > life? > > > > For Meena lagna I took, lagna is in gandanta and Ch in 7th with > > two > > > > malefics also confirming early death, but Mars AK is in 7th house > > > > giving Viprita ayus (early death of brother). > > > > You gave the disease as the reason of death. However, for Mesah > > lagna > > > > 3rd from AL doesn`t have connection with Saturn. It is afflicted > > by > > > > Mars and Rahu that would give dusta marana. > > > > Hope you can explain this. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40> > > <sohamsa% > > 40>, > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana and Michal, Namaskar > > > > > I suspect that Tijana is right about Aries lagna. My reasons > > based > > > > on > > > > > the atmakaraka in the chart itself. > > > > > > > > > > A significant aspect of his life was that he remained unmarried > > and > > > > > without children. If we take Aries lagna, what is highly > > evident is > > > > that > > > > > i) lord of Upapada; ii) lord of twelfth house; iii) lords of a3 > > and > > > > a9; > > > > > iv) chara darakaraka; are all placed in the Marana Karaka Sthana > > > > house > > > > > from Atmakaraka Mars. > > > > > > > > > > Further with Mars as AK in the sixth house of celibacy, it does > > > > point > > > > > strongly towards the lack of physical relationships. > > > > > > > > > > Both Aries and Pisces point towards Pravrajya yoga, but Pisces > > > > lagna > > > > > would also fulfill a dictum of Saravali which could lead to > > > > significant > > > > > disability, and abnormal growth of 'extra' limbs. Sanjayji has > > > > proven > > > > > this principle in a past issue of the Jyotish digest. > > > > > > > > > > There are dhimantah yogas from both Pisces and Aries lagnas, yet > > > > the one > > > > > from Aries is extremely evident and would speak volumes of > > Tesla's > > > > ability. > > > > > His conflicts with Edison can be justified from both lagnas as > > > > well, as > > > > > Mars or Mercury as Atmakarakas tend to attract such 'unwanted' > > > > > attention. Yet, with Aries lagna the AK goes to the sixth house > > > > showing > > > > > the 'battle' with a very powerful foe such as that of Edison. > > > > > > > > > > His fame was not in Europe and least of all Yugoslavia until the > > > > world > > > > > knew of his 'conquests' abroad. This is very evident with the > > > > Gajakesari > > > > > yoga in the twelfth house. Further, his nakshatra lord must also > > > > confirm > > > > > to show the building of museums in his name. Moon is the > > nakshatra > > > > lord > > > > > and is in the Gajakesari in rasi, and is in own sign in > > navamsa. It > > > > is > > > > > for this reason that his work still has an imprint on this > > world. > > > > > > > > > > The eleventh lord from arudha lagna points towards his elder > > > > brother > > > > > having his demise due to the guru-chandala yoga. Further his > > demise > > > > due > > > > > to a heart attack is more evident with Mars lording the 3rd from > > > > AL - > > > > > i.e. some excess pressure in the blood, yet natural causes. > > > > > > > > > > I think the first drekkana of lagna is more accurate, with > > Jupiter > > > > in > > > > > eighth in Jagannath Drekkana showing the obsession with science. > > > > The > > > > > somanath drekkana having a debilitated, yet with neecha bhanga > > Mars > > > > in > > > > > kendra also seems to point towards his highs and lows in his > > fame. > > > > > > > > > > This leaves us with three navamsa's, among which a node should > > be > > > > in > > > > > trikona to show his math and scientific abilities. Thus Taurus > > is > > > > very > > > > > applicable with Ketu and Mars in trines. > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> <http://srigaruda.com > > <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>>> > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > yes, this is very interesting and think we should stick to > > this > > > > > > (number of brothers and sisters) and possible incident. > > > > > > Researches made about Tesla and his life shortly after the > > end of > > > > the > > > > > > World War II brought out the fact of the incident i`ve > > described > > > > that > > > > > > was kept as a public secret, possibly because of the family > > > > status. > > > > > > Most likely that He lost brother in Mars/Ketu dasa (Pisaca) > > (he > > > > was > > > > > > five and a half year old then) for which Aq lagna fits more as > > > > Ma/Kt > > > > > > aspect 3rd from A11-Dhanu. This should give death in a distant > > > > place > > > > > > but considering that its not 3rd from AL (death of the person > > > > itself) > > > > > > i think it gives different indications. Dhanu means fall from > > the > > > > > > height. It`s aspected by all planets amnog which lagna lord- > > Mars > > > > and > > > > > > Jupiter in own rasi in Chanadala yoga are strongest. This > > means > > > > > > involvment of the person himself and confirms the Chandala > > effect. > > > > > > if i could explain also his nature and abilities from Aq i > > would > > > > > > definetely accept it. Help? > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > 40> > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > 40>, > > > > > > Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From wiki: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikola was one of five children, having one brother (Dane, > > who > > > > was > > > > > > killed in a horse-riding accident when Nikola was five) and > > three > > > > > > sisters (Milka, Angelina and Marica).[10]:3 His family moved > > to > > > > > > Gospiæ in 1862. Tesla went to school in Karlovac. He finished > > a > > > > four > > > > > > year term in the span of three years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic <tijanadamjanovic@> > > > > > > > sohamsa > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > 40> > > > > <sohamsa%40> > > > > > > > Monday, September 24, 2007 7:45:49 AM > > > > > > > Re: Extent of Nabhasa yoga 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you will give comments on some points that are > > coming to > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the time i used (23:33) lagna falls in the last pada of > > > > Revati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nakshatra. Lagna and 10th lord-Jupiter forms > > Darmakarmaadipati > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being in mutual aspect with 9th lord-AK Mars. Sarada yoga is > > > > formed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the 5th and 4th lord (apart from studies of physics > > Tesla > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very learned in many branches and he spoke seven languages). > > > > Lords > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 5th and 9th (both) are in 7th also cofirming gyana. > > Mercury > > > > is > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars` (AK) nakshatra showing the nature of intelligence and > > > > > > learning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This becomes significant considering that Mars is AK > > vargottama, > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same as Ketu and Rahu. I find these planets being > > responsible > > > > for > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inventive mind related to electricity, its transmission, > > etc. > > > > Tesla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also spoke about and did many researches on nuclear energy > > but > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forsaw coming of the World War II... Mars and Ketu are in > > > > karakamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th in navamsa also producing bramacarya. Dasamsa has the > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pattern-Kt, Ma, Rh in 1-7 axis with Me in lagna and Sy- AmK > > lagna > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th with the digbala from AL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandala yoga is interesting and could be the explanation > > for > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > incident from childhood. Most likely that he is responsible > > for > > > > > > death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his brother-while playing with brother as child, he > > > > accidently > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pushed him from the attic that resulted in tragedy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Michal Dziwulski > > > > <nearmichal@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also the chart of a great inventor - Nicola > > Tesla - > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has all planets in Dual signs - Gemini, Virgo, and Pisces. > > Is > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nala yoga? 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Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Dear Tijanaji, Your paragraph about Nikolai Tesla has aroused my interest. Several of his problems sound like my sister's. That is OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder), not schizophrenia. Or do you have evidence of schizophrenia as well - the paragraph you have written contains only symptoms of OCD. Interestingly, with Aries Lagna, he has Mars, Moon, Ketu in the 6th. My sister has exalted Rahu, Venus, Moon in the 6th, Rahu AK. My sister's talent is art, not math and/or physics - which she hates. She was an absolutely brilliant artist - genius flowed from her hands, now she is too depressed for it to come out any more. Her outstanding obsessive fear was always of disease, mostly cancer (she's never had cancer). Birthdata in case you're interested is 14 May 1964, New Delhi, India, 23:45pm (unrectified). Thanks, Sundeep sohamsa , " tijanadamjanovic " <tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > Dear Vistiji, > What is the greatest part of jyotish discussions is seeing how veils > of maya/arudha are falling slowly. > Afliction of lagna, paka lagna, Moon and Jupiter in both cases made > me explore more about details of Tesla`s personality. > He definetely was a kind of a border case considering mental > stability with serious sympthoms of schyzophrenia. I give an extract > from what he wrote about himself: > > " The sight of a pearl would almost give me a fit...I would not touch > the hair of other people except, perhaps at the point of a > revolver...I counted the steps in my walks and calculated the cubical > contents of soup plates, coffee cups and pieces of food, otherwise my > meal was unenjoyable. All repeated acts or operations I performed had > to be divisible by three and if I missed I felt impelled to do it all > over again, even if it took hours...I would get a fever by looking at > a peach and if a piece of camphor was anywhere in the house it caused > me the keenest discomfort... My feelings came in waves and surges and > variated unceasingly between extremes. My wishes were of consuming > force and like the heads of the hydra, they multiplied. I was > oppressed by thoughts of pain in life and death and religious fear. I > was swayed by superstitious belief and lived in constant dread of the > spirit of evil, of ghosts and ogres and other unholy monsters of the > dark...In the dark I had the sense of a bat and could detect the > presence of an object at a distance of 12 feet by a peculiar creepy > sensation on the forehead. " (If only many other people were so aware > and truthful about own weaknesses our learning would benefit > greatly). > > I see this as definitive and strong mark of nodes (pearls, camphor, > obsessiveness and desires-Rahu; hair, ghosts, extra-sensory > perception related to darkness-Ketu) and even though both lagnas are > inflenced by them i take it to be Guru in lagna (and Gajakeshari) > that saved his mind after all released a genius in him. > I`m waiting for your opinion on this. > Warm regards, > Tijana > > > > sohamsa , Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > Dear Tijana, Namaskar > > I didn't know that it was his elder brother who died, but i found > that > > it was. > > > > So we must see eleventh from AL which you have also done. From > > Dhanurarudha you mentioned the Venus is the lord of the eleventh > > therefrom and is the natural bhratrmaraka. In fact this negative- > aspect > > of Venus normally doesn't come to pass when it is influenced by > Jupiter, > > or Venus lords the house in question. Also if Venus had been given > this > > power it would have annihilated all elder siblings, and not just > the one > > elder brother. > > > > So based on this Dhanurarudha really doesn't work for Tesla. > > > > The Shoola Mahadasa is the most important in ascertaining the > demise of > > brother. According to Jaimini Saturn is the sthira karaka for elder > > brother (1.1.24). > > Further we analyze the Shoola dasa from the stronger between fifth > and > > eleventh. For both Aries and Pisces lagna, the first Shoola dasa is > in > > the third/eighth from Sthira karaka Saturn and will both show > danger to > > the brother. Hence neither can be excluded based on Dasa. > > > > Reg. Balarishta if Moon is the cause of it, then surely the > strength of > > the Moon will take the native out of Balarishta. I believe Jupiter > is > > making that Moon strong, but he would have seen danger to his own > life > > during childhood. > > > > Finally, our discussion would benefit greatly, and i would also > > encourage that you go into depth with your analysis. > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > -- > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com > > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > Dear Vistiji, > > > I appreciate your comments very much as i find them inspiring. > > > I don`t know what is the logic behind Parasara`s dictum to be > able to > > > say is Dimantha the cause of cancelation. What comes to my mind > is- > > > the 4th lord as the 3rd from the 2nd house is the controller of > > > growth of speech and Mars role in this is based on Mercury`s > enmity > > > towards him. I don`t see why lagna lord would alter this. > > > I agree that Gajakeshari could save mother (Chandra lords 4th) but > > > not the person as neither Ch nor Gu influence lagna. > > > Tesla lost older brother and, true, Chandala connected to 11th > from > > > AL could be the strongest argument. But for Dhanuraruda, Sukra > (Rudra > > > for older brother) lords 11th from AL and Shoola dasa of the time > of > > > brother`s demise is Cp/Ge. Gemini holds the Rudra and is in trine > to > > > Tula-11th from AL. From A11 Cp and Ge are third and eight signs > > > respecitively. i made only quick look here as i don`t feel like > going > > > into it deep now. So please correct. I think that this point > brings > > > the final word. > > > Warm regards, > > > Tijana > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% > 40>, > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana, Namaskar > > > > Thank you for your reply. > > > > I think the dictum by Parasara is canceled due to the Dhimantah > > > Yoga. My > > > > worry for Meena lagna is that the lagna itself is too afflicted > and > > > will > > > > give disabilities. > > > > > > > > Did i mention disease? I thought it was more sudden, i.e. due > to a > > > > hemorrhage (mars)? Meena lagna would show long term disease > before > > > > death. Rahu's graha dristi will not give dustha marana yoga... > it > > > has to > > > > be rasi dristi to actualize. > > > > > > > > The malefics along the sixth and twelfth do cause troubles to > > > mother, > > > > but i'm confident that the Gajakesari cleared up all that. How > > > about the > > > > Gajakesari's influence on the Balarishta yoga? > > > > > > > > Was the demised brother an elder or younger brother? This is > > > important, > > > > as i cannot justify AK lording the third from AL being able to > take > > > the > > > > YOUNGER brother out of this world. Yet, Guruchandala yoga on the > > > > eleventh house from AL is very telling of this, and the > unnatural > > > > circumstances within which this happened. In fact because of > this > > > yoga > > > > he personally could be accused of murder (associated with AL). > > > Yet, > > > > with Dhanurarudha we can justify this happening to younger > brother. > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > Dear Vistiji, namaskar > > > > > thank you for clearing this out. Just a few more doubts. > > > > > Parasara says that the native get dumbness when there`s a > movable > > > > > sign in the 4th house and the lord of the 4th house and Mars > are > > > > > placed in the 6th or 12th. > > > > > One dictum isn`t enough for sure. > > > > > Malefics` aspect on 11th from AL (Mars and Saturn) will > destroy > > > elder > > > > > brothers, but for Mesha lagna 3rd from AL is also afflicted by > > > Mars > > > > > and Rahu so this would damage younger siblings. > > > > > Mesha lagna shows balarishta. Chandra is afflicted with three > > > > > malefics in dustana (this gives early demise of mother also) > and > > > > > there`s no single benefic aspect on lagna. Also all planets > are in > > > > > apoklimas and none of them I would take as a strong. What > saved > > > his > > > > > life? > > > > > For Meena lagna I took, lagna is in gandanta and Ch in 7th > with > > > two > > > > > malefics also confirming early death, but Mars AK is in 7th > house > > > > > giving Viprita ayus (early death of brother). > > > > > You gave the disease as the reason of death. However, for > Mesah > > > lagna > > > > > 3rd from AL doesn`t have connection with Saturn. It is > afflicted > > > by > > > > > Mars and Rahu that would give dusta marana. > > > > > Hope you can explain this. > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% > 40> > > > <sohamsa% > > > 40>, > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana and Michal, Namaskar > > > > > > I suspect that Tijana is right about Aries lagna. My reasons > > > based > > > > > on > > > > > > the atmakaraka in the chart itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > A significant aspect of his life was that he remained > unmarried > > > and > > > > > > without children. If we take Aries lagna, what is highly > > > evident is > > > > > that > > > > > > i) lord of Upapada; ii) lord of twelfth house; iii) lords > of a3 > > > and > > > > > a9; > > > > > > iv) chara darakaraka; are all placed in the Marana Karaka > Sthana > > > > > house > > > > > > from Atmakaraka Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > Further with Mars as AK in the sixth house of celibacy, it > does > > > > > point > > > > > > strongly towards the lack of physical relationships. > > > > > > > > > > > > Both Aries and Pisces point towards Pravrajya yoga, but > Pisces > > > > > lagna > > > > > > would also fulfill a dictum of Saravali which could lead to > > > > > significant > > > > > > disability, and abnormal growth of 'extra' limbs. Sanjayji > has > > > > > proven > > > > > > this principle in a past issue of the Jyotish digest. > > > > > > > > > > > > There are dhimantah yogas from both Pisces and Aries > lagnas, yet > > > > > the one > > > > > > from Aries is extremely evident and would speak volumes of > > > Tesla's > > > > > ability. > > > > > > His conflicts with Edison can be justified from both lagnas > as > > > > > well, as > > > > > > Mars or Mercury as Atmakarakas tend to attract > such 'unwanted' > > > > > > attention. Yet, with Aries lagna the AK goes to the sixth > house > > > > > showing > > > > > > the 'battle' with a very powerful foe such as that of > Edison. > > > > > > > > > > > > His fame was not in Europe and least of all Yugoslavia > until the > > > > > world > > > > > > knew of his 'conquests' abroad. This is very evident with > the > > > > > Gajakesari > > > > > > yoga in the twelfth house. Further, his nakshatra lord must > also > > > > > confirm > > > > > > to show the building of museums in his name. Moon is the > > > nakshatra > > > > > lord > > > > > > and is in the Gajakesari in rasi, and is in own sign in > > > navamsa. It > > > > > is > > > > > > for this reason that his work still has an imprint on this > > > world. > > > > > > > > > > > > The eleventh lord from arudha lagna points towards his elder > > > > > brother > > > > > > having his demise due to the guru-chandala yoga. Further his > > > demise > > > > > due > > > > > > to a heart attack is more evident with Mars lording the 3rd > from > > > > > AL - > > > > > > i.e. some excess pressure in the blood, yet natural causes. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the first drekkana of lagna is more accurate, with > > > Jupiter > > > > > in > > > > > > eighth in Jagannath Drekkana showing the obsession with > science. > > > > > The > > > > > > somanath drekkana having a debilitated, yet with neecha > bhanga > > > Mars > > > > > in > > > > > > kendra also seems to point towards his highs and lows in his > > > fame. > > > > > > > > > > > > This leaves us with three navamsa's, among which a node > should > > > be > > > > > in > > > > > > trikona to show his math and scientific abilities. Thus > Taurus > > > is > > > > > very > > > > > > applicable with Ketu and Mars in trines. > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > > > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > <http://srigaruda.com > > > <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > yes, this is very interesting and think we should stick to > > > this > > > > > > > (number of brothers and sisters) and possible incident. > > > > > > > Researches made about Tesla and his life shortly after the > > > end of > > > > > the > > > > > > > World War II brought out the fact of the incident i`ve > > > described > > > > > that > > > > > > > was kept as a public secret, possibly because of the > family > > > > > status. > > > > > > > Most likely that He lost brother in Mars/Ketu dasa > (Pisaca) > > > (he > > > > > was > > > > > > > five and a half year old then) for which Aq lagna fits > more as > > > > > Ma/Kt > > > > > > > aspect 3rd from A11-Dhanu. This should give death in a > distant > > > > > place > > > > > > > but considering that its not 3rd from AL (death of the > person > > > > > itself) > > > > > > > i think it gives different indications. Dhanu means fall > from > > > the > > > > > > > height. It`s aspected by all planets amnog which lagna > lord- > > > Mars > > > > > and > > > > > > > Jupiter in own rasi in Chanadala yoga are strongest. This > > > means > > > > > > > involvment of the person himself and confirms the Chandala > > > effect. > > > > > > > if i could explain also his nature and abilities from Aq i > > > would > > > > > > > definetely accept it. Help? > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > > 40> > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > 40>, > > > > > > > Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From wiki: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikola was one of five children, having one brother > (Dane, > > > who > > > > > was > > > > > > > killed in a horse-riding accident when Nikola was five) > and > > > three > > > > > > > sisters (Milka, Angelina and Marica).[10]:3 His family > moved > > > to > > > > > > > Gospiæ in 1862. Tesla went to school in Karlovac. He > finished > > > a > > > > > four > > > > > > > year term in the span of three years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic <tijanadamjanovic@> > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > > 40> > > > > > <sohamsa%40> > > > > > > > > Monday, September 24, 2007 7:45:49 AM > > > > > > > > Re: Extent of Nabhasa yoga 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you will give comments on some points that are > > > coming to > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the time i used (23:33) lagna falls in the last > pada of > > > > > Revati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nakshatra. Lagna and 10th lord-Jupiter forms > > > Darmakarmaadipati > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being in mutual aspect with 9th lord-AK Mars. Sarada > yoga is > > > > > formed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the 5th and 4th lord (apart from studies of physics > > > Tesla > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very learned in many branches and he spoke seven > languages). > > > > > Lords > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 5th and 9th (both) are in 7th also cofirming gyana. > > > Mercury > > > > > is > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars` (AK) nakshatra showing the nature of intelligence > and > > > > > > > learning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This becomes significant considering that Mars is AK > > > vargottama, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same as Ketu and Rahu. I find these planets being > > > responsible > > > > > for > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inventive mind related to electricity, its transmission, > > > etc. > > > > > Tesla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also spoke about and did many researches on nuclear > energy > > > but > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forsaw coming of the World War II... Mars and Ketu are > in > > > > > karakamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th in navamsa also producing bramacarya. Dasamsa > has the > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pattern-Kt, Ma, Rh in 1-7 axis with Me in lagna and Sy- > AmK > > > lagna > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th with the digbala from AL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandala yoga is interesting and could be the > explanation > > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > incident from childhood. Most likely that he is > responsible > > > for > > > > > > > death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his brother-while playing with brother as child, he > > > > > accidently > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pushed him from the attic that resulted in tragedy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Michal Dziwulski > > > > > <nearmichal@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also the chart of a great inventor - Nicola > > > Tesla - > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has all planets in Dual signs - Gemini, Virgo, and > Pisces. > > > Is > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nala yoga? Results are poor physique, accumulates money, > > > good > > > > > > > looks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > helps relatives, and is skillful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He was certainly skillful, being responsible for > > > virtually all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > modern technology. However he died impoverished and was > > > terrible > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with money. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps the Serbians amongst us can throw some light > on > > > this > > > > > > > chart? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > > > _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ __ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their > > > life, > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > story. 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Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Sundeep and Tijana, Namaskar Teslas case is definitely one of OCD, without doubt. And both Pisces and Aries lagna are significantly afflicted. Yet, i maintain that the special case of Pisces lagna would also have given physical abnormalities (saravali). Jupiter is indeed on the lagna, but because Rahu is also there it would be difficult to count the blessings in his life. Looking forward to your reply. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC Guru Jaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com vedicastrostudent wrote: Dear Tijanaji, Your paragraph about Nikolai Tesla has aroused my interest. Several of his problems sound like my sister's. That is OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder), not schizophrenia. Or do you have evidence of schizophrenia as well - the paragraph you have written contains only symptoms of OCD. Interestingly, with Aries Lagna, he has Mars, Moon, Ketu in the 6th. My sister has exalted Rahu, Venus, Moon in the 6th, Rahu AK. My sister's talent is art, not math and/or physics - which she hates. She was an absolutely brilliant artist - genius flowed from her hands, now she is too depressed for it to come out any more. Her outstanding obsessive fear was always of disease, mostly cancer (she's never had cancer). Birthdata in case you're interested is 14 May 1964, New Delhi, India, 23:45pm (unrectified). Thanks, Sundeep sohamsa , "tijanadamjanovic" <tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > Dear Vistiji, > What is the greatest part of jyotish discussions is seeing how veils > of maya/arudha are falling slowly. > Afliction of lagna, paka lagna, Moon and Jupiter in both cases made > me explore more about details of Tesla`s personality. > He definetely was a kind of a border case considering mental > stability with serious sympthoms of schyzophrenia. I give an extract > from what he wrote about himself: > > "The sight of a pearl would almost give me a fit...I would not touch > the hair of other people except, perhaps at the point of a > revolver...I counted the steps in my walks and calculated the cubical > contents of soup plates, coffee cups and pieces of food, otherwise my > meal was unenjoyable. All repeated acts or operations I performed had > to be divisible by three and if I missed I felt impelled to do it all > over again, even if it took hours...I would get a fever by looking at > a peach and if a piece of camphor was anywhere in the house it caused > me the keenest discomfort... My feelings came in waves and surges and > variated unceasingly between extremes. My wishes were of consuming > force and like the heads of the hydra, they multiplied. I was > oppressed by thoughts of pain in life and death and religious fear. I > was swayed by superstitious belief and lived in constant dread of the > spirit of evil, of ghosts and ogres and other unholy monsters of the > dark...In the dark I had the sense of a bat and could detect the > presence of an object at a distance of 12 feet by a peculiar creepy > sensation on the forehead." (If only many other people were so aware > and truthful about own weaknesses our learning would benefit > greatly). > > I see this as definitive and strong mark of nodes (pearls, camphor, > obsessiveness and desires-Rahu; hair, ghosts, extra-sensory > perception related to darkness-Ketu) and even though both lagnas are > inflenced by them i take it to be Guru in lagna (and Gajakeshari) > that saved his mind after all released a genius in him. > I`m waiting for your opinion on this. > Warm regards, > Tijana > > > > sohamsa , Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > Dear Tijana, Namaskar > > I didn't know that it was his elder brother who died, but i found > that > > it was. > > > > So we must see eleventh from AL which you have also done. From > > Dhanurarudha you mentioned the Venus is the lord of the eleventh > > therefrom and is the natural bhratrmaraka. In fact this negative- > aspect > > of Venus normally doesn't come to pass when it is influenced by > Jupiter, > > or Venus lords the house in question. Also if Venus had been given > this > > power it would have annihilated all elder siblings, and not just > the one > > elder brother. > > > > So based on this Dhanurarudha really doesn't work for Tesla. > > > > The Shoola Mahadasa is the most important in ascertaining the > demise of > > brother. According to Jaimini Saturn is the sthira karaka for elder > > brother (1.1.24). > > Further we analyze the Shoola dasa from the stronger between fifth > and > > eleventh. For both Aries and Pisces lagna, the first Shoola dasa is > in > > the third/eighth from Sthira karaka Saturn and will both show > danger to > > the brother. Hence neither can be excluded based on Dasa. > > > > Reg. Balarishta if Moon is the cause of it, then surely the > strength of > > the Moon will take the native out of Balarishta. I believe Jupiter > is > > making that Moon strong, but he would have seen danger to his own > life > > during childhood. > > > > Finally, our discussion would benefit greatly, and i would also > > encourage that you go into depth with your analysis. > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > -- > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com > > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > Dear Vistiji, > > > I appreciate your comments very much as i find them inspiring. > > > I don`t know what is the logic behind Parasara`s dictum to be > able to > > > say is Dimantha the cause of cancelation. What comes to my mind > is- > > > the 4th lord as the 3rd from the 2nd house is the controller of > > > growth of speech and Mars role in this is based on Mercury`s > enmity > > > towards him. I don`t see why lagna lord would alter this. > > > I agree that Gajakeshari could save mother (Chandra lords 4th) but > > > not the person as neither Ch nor Gu influence lagna. > > > Tesla lost older brother and, true, Chandala connected to 11th > from > > > AL could be the strongest argument. But for Dhanuraruda, Sukra > (Rudra > > > for older brother) lords 11th from AL and Shoola dasa of the time > of > > > brother`s demise is Cp/Ge. Gemini holds the Rudra and is in trine > to > > > Tula-11th from AL. From A11 Cp and Ge are third and eight signs > > > respecitively. i made only quick look here as i don`t feel like > going > > > into it deep now. So please correct. I think that this point > brings > > > the final word. > > > Warm regards, > > > Tijana > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% > 40>, > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana, Namaskar > > > > Thank you for your reply. > > > > I think the dictum by Parasara is canceled due to the Dhimantah > > > Yoga. My > > > > worry for Meena lagna is that the lagna itself is too afflicted > and > > > will > > > > give disabilities. > > > > > > > > Did i mention disease? I thought it was more sudden, i.e. due > to a > > > > hemorrhage (mars)? Meena lagna would show long term disease > before > > > > death. Rahu's graha dristi will not give dustha marana yoga... > it > > > has to > > > > be rasi dristi to actualize. > > > > > > > > The malefics along the sixth and twelfth do cause troubles to > > > mother, > > > > but i'm confident that the Gajakesari cleared up all that. How > > > about the > > > > Gajakesari's influence on the Balarishta yoga? > > > > > > > > Was the demised brother an elder or younger brother? This is > > > important, > > > > as i cannot justify AK lording the third from AL being able to > take > > > the > > > > YOUNGER brother out of this world. Yet, Guruchandala yoga on the > > > > eleventh house from AL is very telling of this, and the > unnatural > > > > circumstances within which this happened. In fact because of > this > > > yoga > > > > he personally could be accused of murder (associated with AL). > > > Yet, > > > > with Dhanurarudha we can justify this happening to younger > brother. > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > Dear Vistiji, namaskar > > > > > thank you for clearing this out. Just a few more doubts. > > > > > Parasara says that the native get dumbness when there`s a > movable > > > > > sign in the 4th house and the lord of the 4th house and Mars > are > > > > > placed in the 6th or 12th. > > > > > One dictum isn`t enough for sure. > > > > > Malefics` aspect on 11th from AL (Mars and Saturn) will > destroy > > > elder > > > > > brothers, but for Mesha lagna 3rd from AL is also afflicted by > > > Mars > > > > > and Rahu so this would damage younger siblings. > > > > > Mesha lagna shows balarishta. Chandra is afflicted with three > > > > > malefics in dustana (this gives early demise of mother also) > and > > > > > there`s no single benefic aspect on lagna. Also all planets > are in > > > > > apoklimas and none of them I would take as a strong. What > saved > > > his > > > > > life? > > > > > For Meena lagna I took, lagna is in gandanta and Ch in 7th > with > > > two > > > > > malefics also confirming early death, but Mars AK is in 7th > house > > > > > giving Viprita ayus (early death of brother). > > > > > You gave the disease as the reason of death. However, for > Mesah > > > lagna > > > > > 3rd from AL doesn`t have connection with Saturn. It is > afflicted > > > by > > > > > Mars and Rahu that would give dusta marana. > > > > > Hope you can explain this. > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% > 40> > > > <sohamsa% > > > 40>, > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana and Michal, Namaskar > > > > > > I suspect that Tijana is right about Aries lagna. My reasons > > > based > > > > > on > > > > > > the atmakaraka in the chart itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > A significant aspect of his life was that he remained > unmarried > > > and > > > > > > without children. If we take Aries lagna, what is highly > > > evident is > > > > > that > > > > > > i) lord of Upapada; ii) lord of twelfth house; iii) lords > of a3 > > > and > > > > > a9; > > > > > > iv) chara darakaraka; are all placed in the Marana Karaka > Sthana > > > > > house > > > > > > from Atmakaraka Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > Further with Mars as AK in the sixth house of celibacy, it > does > > > > > point > > > > > > strongly towards the lack of physical relationships. > > > > > > > > > > > > Both Aries and Pisces point towards Pravrajya yoga, but > Pisces > > > > > lagna > > > > > > would also fulfill a dictum of Saravali which could lead to > > > > > significant > > > > > > disability, and abnormal growth of 'extra' limbs. Sanjayji > has > > > > > proven > > > > > > this principle in a past issue of the Jyotish digest. > > > > > > > > > > > > There are dhimantah yogas from both Pisces and Aries > lagnas, yet > > > > > the one > > > > > > from Aries is extremely evident and would speak volumes of > > > Tesla's > > > > > ability. > > > > > > His conflicts with Edison can be justified from both lagnas > as > > > > > well, as > > > > > > Mars or Mercury as Atmakarakas tend to attract > such 'unwanted' > > > > > > attention. Yet, with Aries lagna the AK goes to the sixth > house > > > > > showing > > > > > > the 'battle' with a very powerful foe such as that of > Edison. > > > > > > > > > > > > His fame was not in Europe and least of all Yugoslavia > until the > > > > > world > > > > > > knew of his 'conquests' abroad. This is very evident with > the > > > > > Gajakesari > > > > > > yoga in the twelfth house. Further, his nakshatra lord must > also > > > > > confirm > > > > > > to show the building of museums in his name. Moon is the > > > nakshatra > > > > > lord > > > > > > and is in the Gajakesari in rasi, and is in own sign in > > > navamsa. It > > > > > is > > > > > > for this reason that his work still has an imprint on this > > > world. > > > > > > > > > > > > The eleventh lord from arudha lagna points towards his elder > > > > > brother > > > > > > having his demise due to the guru-chandala yoga. Further his > > > demise > > > > > due > > > > > > to a heart attack is more evident with Mars lording the 3rd > from > > > > > AL - > > > > > > i.e. some excess pressure in the blood, yet natural causes. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the first drekkana of lagna is more accurate, with > > > Jupiter > > > > > in > > > > > > eighth in Jagannath Drekkana showing the obsession with > science. > > > > > The > > > > > > somanath drekkana having a debilitated, yet with neecha > bhanga > > > Mars > > > > > in > > > > > > kendra also seems to point towards his highs and lows in his > > > fame. > > > > > > > > > > > > This leaves us with three navamsa's, among which a node > should > > > be > > > > > in > > > > > > trikona to show his math and scientific abilities. Thus > Taurus > > > is > > > > > very > > > > > > applicable with Ketu and Mars in trines. > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > > > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > <http://srigaruda.com > > > <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > yes, this is very interesting and think we should stick to > > > this > > > > > > > (number of brothers and sisters) and possible incident. > > > > > > > Researches made about Tesla and his life shortly after the > > > end of > > > > > the > > > > > > > World War II brought out the fact of the incident i`ve > > > described > > > > > that > > > > > > > was kept as a public secret, possibly because of the > family > > > > > status. > > > > > > > Most likely that He lost brother in Mars/Ketu dasa > (Pisaca) > > > (he > > > > > was > > > > > > > five and a half year old then) for which Aq lagna fits > more as > > > > > Ma/Kt > > > > > > > aspect 3rd from A11-Dhanu. This should give death in a > distant > > > > > place > > > > > > > but considering that its not 3rd from AL (death of the > person > > > > > itself) > > > > > > > i think it gives different indications. Dhanu means fall > from > > > the > > > > > > > height. It`s aspected by all planets amnog which lagna > lord- > > > Mars > > > > > and > > > > > > > Jupiter in own rasi in Chanadala yoga are strongest. This > > > means > > > > > > > involvment of the person himself and confirms the Chandala > > > effect. > > > > > > > if i could explain also his nature and abilities from Aq i > > > would > > > > > > > definetely accept it. Help? > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > > 40> > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > 40>, > > > > > > > Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From wiki: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikola was one of five children, having one brother > (Dane, > > > who > > > > > was > > > > > > > killed in a horse-riding accident when Nikola was five) > and > > > three > > > > > > > sisters (Milka, Angelina and Marica).[10]:3 His family > moved > > > to > > > > > > > Gospiæ in 1862. Tesla went to school in Karlovac. He > finished > > > a > > > > > four > > > > > > > year term in the span of three years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic <tijanadamjanovic@> > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > > 40> > > > > > <sohamsa%40> > > > > > > > > Monday, September 24, 2007 7:45:49 AM > > > > > > > > Re: Extent of Nabhasa yoga 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you will give comments on some points that are > > > coming to > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the time i used (23:33) lagna falls in the last > pada of > > > > > Revati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nakshatra. Lagna and 10th lord-Jupiter forms > > > Darmakarmaadipati > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being in mutual aspect with 9th lord-AK Mars. Sarada > yoga is > > > > > formed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the 5th and 4th lord (apart from studies of physics > > > Tesla > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very learned in many branches and he spoke seven > languages). > > > > > Lords > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 5th and 9th (both) are in 7th also cofirming gyana. > > > Mercury > > > > > is > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars` (AK) nakshatra showing the nature of intelligence > and > > > > > > > learning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This becomes significant considering that Mars is AK > > > vargottama, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same as Ketu and Rahu. I find these planets being > > > responsible > > > > > for > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inventive mind related to electricity, its transmission, > > > etc. > > > > > Tesla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also spoke about and did many researches on nuclear > energy > > > but > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forsaw coming of the World War II... Mars and Ketu are > in > > > > > karakamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th in navamsa also producing bramacarya. Dasamsa > has the > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pattern-Kt, Ma, Rh in 1-7 axis with Me in lagna and Sy- > AmK > > > lagna > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th with the digbala from AL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandala yoga is interesting and could be the > explanation > > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > incident from childhood. Most likely that he is > responsible > > > for > > > > > > > death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his brother-while playing with brother as child, he > > > > > accidently > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pushed him from the attic that resulted in tragedy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ ..com, Michal Dziwulski > > > > > <nearmichal@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also the chart of a great inventor - Nicola > > > Tesla - > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has all planets in Dual signs - Gemini, Virgo, and > Pisces. > > > Is > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nala yoga? Results are poor physique, accumulates money, > > > good > > > > > > > looks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > helps relatives, and is skillful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He was certainly skillful, being responsible for > > > virtually all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > modern technology. However he died impoverished and was > > > terrible > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with money. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps the Serbians amongst us can throw some light > on > > > this > > > > > > > chart? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > > > _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ __ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their > > > life, > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > story. 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Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Om Gurave Namah Dear Sundeep, namaskar You are right, the symtopms i gave are OCD. However, there are details that point to schizophrenia as well: " In my boyhood I suffered from a peculiar affliction due to the appearance of images, often accompanied by strong flashes of light, which marred the sight of real objects and interfered with my thoughts and action. They were pictures of things and scenes which I had really seen, never of those imagined. When a word was spoken to me the image of the object it designated would present itself vividly to my vision and sometimes I was quite unable to distinguish whether what I saw was tangible or not...When I drop little squares of paper in a dish filled with liquid, I always sense a peculiar and awful taste in my mouth...I was about twelve years of age when I first succeeded in banishing an image from my vision by willful effort, but I never had any control over the flashes of light to which I have referred... " These are the symptoms that fall into group of halucinations-visual, gustatory, very likely auditory, and delusions-of reference, in the first place (halucinations and delusions are most common symptoms os schizophrenia). Schizophrenia range from occasionally manifesting symptoms that don`t have to bring complete disability of cognitive and emotional functions to catatonic shizophrenia and other forms with prominent so called negative symptomps which lead to loosing of important life abilities. Very common form of sch. is childhood schizophrenia and i think we have it in Tesla`s case. Thank you very much for the birth details of your sister (what you wrote tells about prominent somatic delusions). My thesis is that all forms are defined primarily by the stongest malefic influence on mana and dhi, for example-Mars` visual like with Tesla, Saturn for somatic, Rahu paranoic...D60 being crucial. I will look into it, as this has began to occupy my interest. Warm regards, Tijana sohamsa , " vedicastrostudent " <vedicastrostudent wrote: > > Dear Tijanaji, > Your paragraph about Nikolai Tesla has aroused my interest. Several > of his problems sound like my sister's. That is OCD (Obsessive > Compulsive Disorder), not schizophrenia. Or do you have evidence of > schizophrenia as well - the paragraph you have written contains only > symptoms of OCD. > > Interestingly, with Aries Lagna, he has Mars, Moon, Ketu in the > 6th. My sister has exalted Rahu, Venus, Moon in the 6th, Rahu AK. My > sister's talent is art, not math and/or physics - which she hates. > She was an absolutely brilliant artist - genius flowed from her > hands, now she is too depressed for it to come out any more. Her > outstanding obsessive fear was always of disease, mostly cancer > (she's never had cancer). > > Birthdata in case you're interested is 14 May 1964, New Delhi, > India, 23:45pm (unrectified). > > Thanks, > > Sundeep > > > sohamsa , " tijanadamjanovic " > <tijanadamjanovic@> wrote: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Vistiji, > > What is the greatest part of jyotish discussions is seeing how > veils > > of maya/arudha are falling slowly. > > Afliction of lagna, paka lagna, Moon and Jupiter in both cases > made > > me explore more about details of Tesla`s personality. > > He definetely was a kind of a border case considering mental > > stability with serious sympthoms of schyzophrenia. I give an > extract > > from what he wrote about himself: > > > > " The sight of a pearl would almost give me a fit...I would not > touch > > the hair of other people except, perhaps at the point of a > > revolver...I counted the steps in my walks and calculated the > cubical > > contents of soup plates, coffee cups and pieces of food, otherwise > my > > meal was unenjoyable. All repeated acts or operations I performed > had > > to be divisible by three and if I missed I felt impelled to do it > all > > over again, even if it took hours...I would get a fever by looking > at > > a peach and if a piece of camphor was anywhere in the house it > caused > > me the keenest discomfort... My feelings came in waves and surges > and > > variated unceasingly between extremes. My wishes were of consuming > > force and like the heads of the hydra, they multiplied. I was > > oppressed by thoughts of pain in life and death and religious > fear. I > > was swayed by superstitious belief and lived in constant dread of > the > > spirit of evil, of ghosts and ogres and other unholy monsters of > the > > dark...In the dark I had the sense of a bat and could detect the > > presence of an object at a distance of 12 feet by a peculiar > creepy > > sensation on the forehead. " (If only many other people were so > aware > > and truthful about own weaknesses our learning would benefit > > greatly). > > > > I see this as definitive and strong mark of nodes (pearls, > camphor, > > obsessiveness and desires-Rahu; hair, ghosts, extra-sensory > > perception related to darkness-Ketu) and even though both lagnas > are > > inflenced by them i take it to be Guru in lagna (and Gajakeshari) > > that saved his mind after all released a genius in him. > > I`m waiting for your opinion on this. > > Warm regards, > > Tijana > > > > > > > > sohamsa , Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > Dear Tijana, Namaskar > > > I didn't know that it was his elder brother who died, but i > found > > that > > > it was. > > > > > > So we must see eleventh from AL which you have also done. From > > > Dhanurarudha you mentioned the Venus is the lord of the eleventh > > > therefrom and is the natural bhratrmaraka. In fact this negative- > > aspect > > > of Venus normally doesn't come to pass when it is influenced by > > Jupiter, > > > or Venus lords the house in question. Also if Venus had been > given > > this > > > power it would have annihilated all elder siblings, and not just > > the one > > > elder brother. > > > > > > So based on this Dhanurarudha really doesn't work for Tesla. > > > > > > The Shoola Mahadasa is the most important in ascertaining the > > demise of > > > brother. According to Jaimini Saturn is the sthira karaka for > elder > > > brother (1.1.24). > > > Further we analyze the Shoola dasa from the stronger between > fifth > > and > > > eleventh. For both Aries and Pisces lagna, the first Shoola dasa > is > > in > > > the third/eighth from Sthira karaka Saturn and will both show > > danger to > > > the brother. Hence neither can be excluded based on Dasa. > > > > > > Reg. Balarishta if Moon is the cause of it, then surely the > > strength of > > > the Moon will take the native out of Balarishta. I believe > Jupiter > > is > > > making that Moon strong, but he would have seen danger to his > own > > life > > > during childhood. > > > > > > Finally, our discussion would benefit greatly, and i would also > > > encourage that you go into depth with your analysis. > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > -- > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > http://srigaruda.com > > > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Vistiji, > > > > I appreciate your comments very much as i find them inspiring. > > > > I don`t know what is the logic behind Parasara`s dictum to be > > able to > > > > say is Dimantha the cause of cancelation. What comes to my > mind > > is- > > > > the 4th lord as the 3rd from the 2nd house is the controller of > > > > growth of speech and Mars role in this is based on Mercury`s > > enmity > > > > towards him. I don`t see why lagna lord would alter this. > > > > I agree that Gajakeshari could save mother (Chandra lords 4th) > but > > > > not the person as neither Ch nor Gu influence lagna. > > > > Tesla lost older brother and, true, Chandala connected to 11th > > from > > > > AL could be the strongest argument. But for Dhanuraruda, Sukra > > (Rudra > > > > for older brother) lords 11th from AL and Shoola dasa of the > time > > of > > > > brother`s demise is Cp/Ge. Gemini holds the Rudra and is in > trine > > to > > > > Tula-11th from AL. From A11 Cp and Ge are third and eight signs > > > > respecitively. i made only quick look here as i don`t feel > like > > going > > > > into it deep now. So please correct. I think that this point > > brings > > > > the final word. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% > > 40>, > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana, Namaskar > > > > > Thank you for your reply. > > > > > I think the dictum by Parasara is canceled due to the > Dhimantah > > > > Yoga. My > > > > > worry for Meena lagna is that the lagna itself is too > afflicted > > and > > > > will > > > > > give disabilities. > > > > > > > > > > Did i mention disease? I thought it was more sudden, i.e. > due > > to a > > > > > hemorrhage (mars)? Meena lagna would show long term disease > > before > > > > > death. Rahu's graha dristi will not give dustha marana > yoga... > > it > > > > has to > > > > > be rasi dristi to actualize. > > > > > > > > > > The malefics along the sixth and twelfth do cause troubles to > > > > mother, > > > > > but i'm confident that the Gajakesari cleared up all that. > How > > > > about the > > > > > Gajakesari's influence on the Balarishta yoga? > > > > > > > > > > Was the demised brother an elder or younger brother? This is > > > > important, > > > > > as i cannot justify AK lording the third from AL being able > to > > take > > > > the > > > > > YOUNGER brother out of this world. Yet, Guruchandala yoga on > the > > > > > eleventh house from AL is very telling of this, and the > > unnatural > > > > > circumstances within which this happened. In fact because of > > this > > > > yoga > > > > > he personally could be accused of murder (associated with > AL). > > > > Yet, > > > > > with Dhanurarudha we can justify this happening to younger > > brother. > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Dear Vistiji, namaskar > > > > > > thank you for clearing this out. Just a few more doubts. > > > > > > Parasara says that the native get dumbness when there`s a > > movable > > > > > > sign in the 4th house and the lord of the 4th house and > Mars > > are > > > > > > placed in the 6th or 12th. > > > > > > One dictum isn`t enough for sure. > > > > > > Malefics` aspect on 11th from AL (Mars and Saturn) will > > destroy > > > > elder > > > > > > brothers, but for Mesha lagna 3rd from AL is also > afflicted by > > > > Mars > > > > > > and Rahu so this would damage younger siblings. > > > > > > Mesha lagna shows balarishta. Chandra is afflicted with > three > > > > > > malefics in dustana (this gives early demise of mother > also) > > and > > > > > > there`s no single benefic aspect on lagna. Also all > planets > > are in > > > > > > apoklimas and none of them I would take as a strong. What > > saved > > > > his > > > > > > life? > > > > > > For Meena lagna I took, lagna is in gandanta and Ch in 7th > > with > > > > two > > > > > > malefics also confirming early death, but Mars AK is in > 7th > > house > > > > > > giving Viprita ayus (early death of brother). > > > > > > You gave the disease as the reason of death. However, for > > Mesah > > > > lagna > > > > > > 3rd from AL doesn`t have connection with Saturn. It is > > afflicted > > > > by > > > > > > Mars and Rahu that would give dusta marana. > > > > > > Hope you can explain this. > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% > > 40> > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > 40>, > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana and Michal, Namaskar > > > > > > > I suspect that Tijana is right about Aries lagna. My > reasons > > > > based > > > > > > on > > > > > > > the atmakaraka in the chart itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A significant aspect of his life was that he remained > > unmarried > > > > and > > > > > > > without children. If we take Aries lagna, what is highly > > > > evident is > > > > > > that > > > > > > > i) lord of Upapada; ii) lord of twelfth house; iii) > lords > > of a3 > > > > and > > > > > > a9; > > > > > > > iv) chara darakaraka; are all placed in the Marana > Karaka > > Sthana > > > > > > house > > > > > > > from Atmakaraka Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Further with Mars as AK in the sixth house of celibacy, > it > > does > > > > > > point > > > > > > > strongly towards the lack of physical relationships. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both Aries and Pisces point towards Pravrajya yoga, but > > Pisces > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > would also fulfill a dictum of Saravali which could lead > to > > > > > > significant > > > > > > > disability, and abnormal growth of 'extra' limbs. > Sanjayji > > has > > > > > > proven > > > > > > > this principle in a past issue of the Jyotish digest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are dhimantah yogas from both Pisces and Aries > > lagnas, yet > > > > > > the one > > > > > > > from Aries is extremely evident and would speak volumes > of > > > > Tesla's > > > > > > ability. > > > > > > > His conflicts with Edison can be justified from both > lagnas > > as > > > > > > well, as > > > > > > > Mars or Mercury as Atmakarakas tend to attract > > such 'unwanted' > > > > > > > attention. Yet, with Aries lagna the AK goes to the > sixth > > house > > > > > > showing > > > > > > > the 'battle' with a very powerful foe such as that of > > Edison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His fame was not in Europe and least of all Yugoslavia > > until the > > > > > > world > > > > > > > knew of his 'conquests' abroad. This is very evident > with > > the > > > > > > Gajakesari > > > > > > > yoga in the twelfth house. Further, his nakshatra lord > must > > also > > > > > > confirm > > > > > > > to show the building of museums in his name. Moon is the > > > > nakshatra > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > and is in the Gajakesari in rasi, and is in own sign in > > > > navamsa. It > > > > > > is > > > > > > > for this reason that his work still has an imprint on > this > > > > world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The eleventh lord from arudha lagna points towards his > elder > > > > > > brother > > > > > > > having his demise due to the guru-chandala yoga. Further > his > > > > demise > > > > > > due > > > > > > > to a heart attack is more evident with Mars lording the > 3rd > > from > > > > > > AL - > > > > > > > i.e. some excess pressure in the blood, yet natural > causes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the first drekkana of lagna is more accurate, > with > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > in > > > > > > > eighth in Jagannath Drekkana showing the obsession with > > science. > > > > > > The > > > > > > > somanath drekkana having a debilitated, yet with neecha > > bhanga > > > > Mars > > > > > > in > > > > > > > kendra also seems to point towards his highs and lows in > his > > > > fame. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This leaves us with three navamsa's, among which a node > > should > > > > be > > > > > > in > > > > > > > trikona to show his math and scientific abilities. Thus > > Taurus > > > > is > > > > > > very > > > > > > > applicable with Ketu and Mars in trines. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > > > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > > > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > > > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > > > > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > <http://srigaruda.com > > > > <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > yes, this is very interesting and think we should > stick to > > > > this > > > > > > > > (number of brothers and sisters) and possible incident. > > > > > > > > Researches made about Tesla and his life shortly after > the > > > > end of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > World War II brought out the fact of the incident i`ve > > > > described > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > was kept as a public secret, possibly because of the > > family > > > > > > status. > > > > > > > > Most likely that He lost brother in Mars/Ketu dasa > > (Pisaca) > > > > (he > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > five and a half year old then) for which Aq lagna fits > > more as > > > > > > Ma/Kt > > > > > > > > aspect 3rd from A11-Dhanu. This should give death in a > > distant > > > > > > place > > > > > > > > but considering that its not 3rd from AL (death of the > > person > > > > > > itself) > > > > > > > > i think it gives different indications. Dhanu means > fall > > from > > > > the > > > > > > > > height. It`s aspected by all planets amnog which lagna > > lord- > > > > Mars > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > Jupiter in own rasi in Chanadala yoga are strongest. > This > > > > means > > > > > > > > involvment of the person himself and confirms the > Chandala > > > > effect. > > > > > > > > if i could explain also his nature and abilities from > Aq i > > > > would > > > > > > > > definetely accept it. Help? > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > > > 40> > > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > > 40>, > > > > > > > > Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From wiki: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikola was one of five children, having one brother > > (Dane, > > > > who > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > killed in a horse-riding accident when Nikola was > five) > > and > > > > three > > > > > > > > sisters (Milka, Angelina and Marica).[10]:3 His family > > moved > > > > to > > > > > > > > Gospiæ in 1862. Tesla went to school in Karlovac. He > > finished > > > > a > > > > > > four > > > > > > > > year term in the span of three years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic <tijanadamjanovic@> > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > > > 40> > > > > > > <sohamsa%40> > > > > > > > > > Monday, September 24, 2007 7:45:49 AM > > > > > > > > > Re: Extent of Nabhasa yoga 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you will give comments on some points that are > > > > coming to > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the time i used (23:33) lagna falls in the last > > pada of > > > > > > Revati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nakshatra. Lagna and 10th lord-Jupiter forms > > > > Darmakarmaadipati > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being in mutual aspect with 9th lord-AK Mars. Sarada > > yoga is > > > > > > formed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the 5th and 4th lord (apart from studies of > physics > > > > Tesla > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very learned in many branches and he spoke seven > > languages). > > > > > > Lords > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 5th and 9th (both) are in 7th also cofirming > gyana. > > > > Mercury > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars` (AK) nakshatra showing the nature of > intelligence > > and > > > > > > > > learning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This becomes significant considering that Mars is AK > > > > vargottama, > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same as Ketu and Rahu. I find these planets being > > > > responsible > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inventive mind related to electricity, its > transmission, > > > > etc. > > > > > > Tesla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also spoke about and did many researches on nuclear > > energy > > > > but > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forsaw coming of the World War II... Mars and Ketu > are > > in > > > > > > karakamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th in navamsa also producing bramacarya. Dasamsa > > has the > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pattern-Kt, Ma, Rh in 1-7 axis with Me in lagna and > Sy- > > AmK > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th with the digbala from AL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandala yoga is interesting and could be the > > explanation > > > > for > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > incident from childhood. Most likely that he is > > responsible > > > > for > > > > > > > > death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his brother-while playing with brother as child, > he > > > > > > accidently > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pushed him from the attic that resulted in tragedy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Michal Dziwulski > > > > > > <nearmichal@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also the chart of a great inventor - > Nicola > > > > Tesla - > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has all planets in Dual signs - Gemini, Virgo, and > > Pisces. > > > > Is > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nala yoga? Results are poor physique, accumulates > money, > > > > good > > > > > > > > looks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > helps relatives, and is skillful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He was certainly skillful, being responsible for > > > > virtually all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > modern technology. 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Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Om Gurave Namah Dear Vistiji, i came across a detail about big change that occured when he was 12 so i`ll think about this in relation to naisargika dasa. What kind of physical abnormalites exactly this would give considering planets involved for Meena? Would genital organs be the only? Warm regards, Tijana sohamsa , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ?????? > > Dear Sundeep and Tijana, Namaskar > Teslas case is definitely one of OCD, without doubt. > And both Pisces and Aries lagna are significantly afflicted. > Yet, i maintain that the special case of Pisces lagna would also have > given physical abnormalities (saravali). Jupiter is indeed on the lagna, > but because Rahu is also there it would be difficult to count the > blessings in his life. > Looking forward to your reply. > > Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti <visti > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > <http://srigaruda.com> > > vedicastrostudent wrote: > > > > Dear Tijanaji, > > Your paragraph about Nikolai Tesla has aroused my interest. Several > > of his problems sound like my sister's. That is OCD (Obsessive > > Compulsive Disorder), not schizophrenia. Or do you have evidence of > > schizophrenia as well - the paragraph you have written contains only > > symptoms of OCD. > > > > Interestingly, with Aries Lagna, he has Mars, Moon, Ketu in the > > 6th. My sister has exalted Rahu, Venus, Moon in the 6th, Rahu AK. My > > sister's talent is art, not math and/or physics - which she hates. > > She was an absolutely brilliant artist - genius flowed from her > > hands, now she is too depressed for it to come out any more. Her > > outstanding obsessive fear was always of disease, mostly cancer > > (she's never had cancer). > > > > Birthdata in case you're interested is 14 May 1964, New Delhi, > > India, 23:45pm (unrectified). > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sundeep > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > " tijanadamjanovic " > > <tijanadamjanovic@> wrote: > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > Dear Vistiji, > > > What is the greatest part of jyotish discussions is seeing how > > veils > > > of maya/arudha are falling slowly. > > > Afliction of lagna, paka lagna, Moon and Jupiter in both cases > > made > > > me explore more about details of Tesla`s personality. > > > He definetely was a kind of a border case considering mental > > > stability with serious sympthoms of schyzophrenia. I give an > > extract > > > from what he wrote about himself: > > > > > > " The sight of a pearl would almost give me a fit...I would not > > touch > > > the hair of other people except, perhaps at the point of a > > > revolver...I counted the steps in my walks and calculated the > > cubical > > > contents of soup plates, coffee cups and pieces of food, otherwise > > my > > > meal was unenjoyable. All repeated acts or operations I performed > > had > > > to be divisible by three and if I missed I felt impelled to do it > > all > > > over again, even if it took hours...I would get a fever by looking > > at > > > a peach and if a piece of camphor was anywhere in the house it > > caused > > > me the keenest discomfort... My feelings came in waves and surges > > and > > > variated unceasingly between extremes. My wishes were of consuming > > > force and like the heads of the hydra, they multiplied. I was > > > oppressed by thoughts of pain in life and death and religious > > fear. I > > > was swayed by superstitious belief and lived in constant dread of > > the > > > spirit of evil, of ghosts and ogres and other unholy monsters of > > the > > > dark...In the dark I had the sense of a bat and could detect the > > > presence of an object at a distance of 12 feet by a peculiar > > creepy > > > sensation on the forehead. " (If only many other people were so > > aware > > > and truthful about own weaknesses our learning would benefit > > > greatly). > > > > > > I see this as definitive and strong mark of nodes (pearls, > > camphor, > > > obsessiveness and desires-Rahu; hair, ghosts, extra-sensory > > > perception related to darkness-Ketu) and even though both lagnas > > are > > > inflenced by them i take it to be Guru in lagna (and Gajakeshari) > > > that saved his mind after all released a genius in him. > > > I`m waiting for your opinion on this. > > > Warm regards, > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana, Namaskar > > > > I didn't know that it was his elder brother who died, but i > > found > > > that > > > > it was. > > > > > > > > So we must see eleventh from AL which you have also done. From > > > > Dhanurarudha you mentioned the Venus is the lord of the eleventh > > > > therefrom and is the natural bhratrmaraka. In fact this negative- > > > aspect > > > > of Venus normally doesn't come to pass when it is influenced by > > > Jupiter, > > > > or Venus lords the house in question. Also if Venus had been > > given > > > this > > > > power it would have annihilated all elder siblings, and not just > > > the one > > > > elder brother. > > > > > > > > So based on this Dhanurarudha really doesn't work for Tesla. > > > > > > > > The Shoola Mahadasa is the most important in ascertaining the > > > demise of > > > > brother. According to Jaimini Saturn is the sthira karaka for > > elder > > > > brother (1.1.24). > > > > Further we analyze the Shoola dasa from the stronger between > > fifth > > > and > > > > eleventh. For both Aries and Pisces lagna, the first Shoola dasa > > is > > > in > > > > the third/eighth from Sthira karaka Saturn and will both show > > > danger to > > > > the brother. Hence neither can be excluded based on Dasa. > > > > > > > > Reg. Balarishta if Moon is the cause of it, then surely the > > > strength of > > > > the Moon will take the native out of Balarishta. I believe > > Jupiter > > > is > > > > making that Moon strong, but he would have seen danger to his > > own > > > life > > > > during childhood. > > > > > > > > Finally, our discussion would benefit greatly, and i would also > > > > encourage that you go into depth with your analysis. > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > Dear Vistiji, > > > > > I appreciate your comments very much as i find them inspiring. > > > > > I don`t know what is the logic behind Parasara`s dictum to be > > > able to > > > > > say is Dimantha the cause of cancelation. What comes to my > > mind > > > is- > > > > > the 4th lord as the 3rd from the 2nd house is the controller of > > > > > growth of speech and Mars role in this is based on Mercury`s > > > enmity > > > > > towards him. I don`t see why lagna lord would alter this. > > > > > I agree that Gajakeshari could save mother (Chandra lords 4th) > > but > > > > > not the person as neither Ch nor Gu influence lagna. > > > > > Tesla lost older brother and, true, Chandala connected to 11th > > > from > > > > > AL could be the strongest argument. But for Dhanuraruda, Sukra > > > (Rudra > > > > > for older brother) lords 11th from AL and Shoola dasa of the > > time > > > of > > > > > brother`s demise is Cp/Ge. Gemini holds the Rudra and is in > > trine > > > to > > > > > Tula-11th from AL. From A11 Cp and Ge are third and eight signs > > > > > respecitively. i made only quick look here as i don`t feel > > like > > > going > > > > > into it deep now. So please correct. I think that this point > > > brings > > > > > the final word. > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > > 40>, > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana, Namaskar > > > > > > Thank you for your reply. > > > > > > I think the dictum by Parasara is canceled due to the > > Dhimantah > > > > > Yoga. My > > > > > > worry for Meena lagna is that the lagna itself is too > > afflicted > > > and > > > > > will > > > > > > give disabilities. > > > > > > > > > > > > Did i mention disease? I thought it was more sudden, i.e. > > due > > > to a > > > > > > hemorrhage (mars)? Meena lagna would show long term disease > > > before > > > > > > death. Rahu's graha dristi will not give dustha marana > > yoga... > > > it > > > > > has to > > > > > > be rasi dristi to actualize. > > > > > > > > > > > > The malefics along the sixth and twelfth do cause troubles to > > > > > mother, > > > > > > but i'm confident that the Gajakesari cleared up all that. > > How > > > > > about the > > > > > > Gajakesari's influence on the Balarishta yoga? > > > > > > > > > > > > Was the demised brother an elder or younger brother? This is > > > > > important, > > > > > > as i cannot justify AK lording the third from AL being able > > to > > > take > > > > > the > > > > > > YOUNGER brother out of this world. Yet, Guruchandala yoga on > > the > > > > > > eleventh house from AL is very telling of this, and the > > > unnatural > > > > > > circumstances within which this happened. In fact because of > > > this > > > > > yoga > > > > > > he personally could be accused of murder (associated with > > AL). > > > > > Yet, > > > > > > with Dhanurarudha we can justify this happening to younger > > > brother. > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > > > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > Dear Vistiji, namaskar > > > > > > > thank you for clearing this out. Just a few more doubts. > > > > > > > Parasara says that the native get dumbness when there`s a > > > movable > > > > > > > sign in the 4th house and the lord of the 4th house and > > Mars > > > are > > > > > > > placed in the 6th or 12th. > > > > > > > One dictum isn`t enough for sure. > > > > > > > Malefics` aspect on 11th from AL (Mars and Saturn) will > > > destroy > > > > > elder > > > > > > > brothers, but for Mesha lagna 3rd from AL is also > > afflicted by > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > and Rahu so this would damage younger siblings. > > > > > > > Mesha lagna shows balarishta. Chandra is afflicted with > > three > > > > > > > malefics in dustana (this gives early demise of mother > > also) > > > and > > > > > > > there`s no single benefic aspect on lagna. Also all > > planets > > > are in > > > > > > > apoklimas and none of them I would take as a strong. What > > > saved > > > > > his > > > > > > > life? > > > > > > > For Meena lagna I took, lagna is in gandanta and Ch in 7th > > > with > > > > > two > > > > > > > malefics also confirming early death, but Mars AK is in > > 7th > > > house > > > > > > > giving Viprita ayus (early death of brother). > > > > > > > You gave the disease as the reason of death. However, for > > > Mesah > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > 3rd from AL doesn`t have connection with Saturn. It is > > > afflicted > > > > > by > > > > > > > Mars and Rahu that would give dusta marana. > > > > > > > Hope you can explain this. > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > > 40> > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > 40>, > > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana and Michal, Namaskar > > > > > > > > I suspect that Tijana is right about Aries lagna. My > > reasons > > > > > based > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > the atmakaraka in the chart itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A significant aspect of his life was that he remained > > > unmarried > > > > > and > > > > > > > > without children. If we take Aries lagna, what is highly > > > > > evident is > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > i) lord of Upapada; ii) lord of twelfth house; iii) > > lords > > > of a3 > > > > > and > > > > > > > a9; > > > > > > > > iv) chara darakaraka; are all placed in the Marana > > Karaka > > > Sthana > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > from Atmakaraka Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Further with Mars as AK in the sixth house of celibacy, > > it > > > does > > > > > > > point > > > > > > > > strongly towards the lack of physical relationships. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both Aries and Pisces point towards Pravrajya yoga, but > > > Pisces > > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > would also fulfill a dictum of Saravali which could lead > > to > > > > > > > significant > > > > > > > > disability, and abnormal growth of 'extra' limbs. > > Sanjayji > > > has > > > > > > > proven > > > > > > > > this principle in a past issue of the Jyotish digest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are dhimantah yogas from both Pisces and Aries > > > lagnas, yet > > > > > > > the one > > > > > > > > from Aries is extremely evident and would speak volumes > > of > > > > > Tesla's > > > > > > > ability. > > > > > > > > His conflicts with Edison can be justified from both > > lagnas > > > as > > > > > > > well, as > > > > > > > > Mars or Mercury as Atmakarakas tend to attract > > > such 'unwanted' > > > > > > > > attention. Yet, with Aries lagna the AK goes to the > > sixth > > > house > > > > > > > showing > > > > > > > > the 'battle' with a very powerful foe such as that of > > > Edison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His fame was not in Europe and least of all Yugoslavia > > > until the > > > > > > > world > > > > > > > > knew of his 'conquests' abroad. This is very evident > > with > > > the > > > > > > > Gajakesari > > > > > > > > yoga in the twelfth house. Further, his nakshatra lord > > must > > > also > > > > > > > confirm > > > > > > > > to show the building of museums in his name. Moon is the > > > > > nakshatra > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > and is in the Gajakesari in rasi, and is in own sign in > > > > > navamsa. It > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > for this reason that his work still has an imprint on > > this > > > > > world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The eleventh lord from arudha lagna points towards his > > elder > > > > > > > brother > > > > > > > > having his demise due to the guru-chandala yoga. Further > > his > > > > > demise > > > > > > > due > > > > > > > > to a heart attack is more evident with Mars lording the > > 3rd > > > from > > > > > > > AL - > > > > > > > > i.e. some excess pressure in the blood, yet natural > > causes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the first drekkana of lagna is more accurate, > > with > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > eighth in Jagannath Drekkana showing the obsession with > > > science. > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > somanath drekkana having a debilitated, yet with neecha > > > bhanga > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > kendra also seems to point towards his highs and lows in > > his > > > > > fame. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This leaves us with three navamsa's, among which a node > > > should > > > > > be > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > trikona to show his math and scientific abilities. Thus > > > Taurus > > > > > is > > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > applicable with Ketu and Mars in trines. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > > > > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > > > > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > > > > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > > > > > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>>> > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > > yes, this is very interesting and think we should > > stick to > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > (number of brothers and sisters) and possible incident. > > > > > > > > > Researches made about Tesla and his life shortly after > > the > > > > > end of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > World War II brought out the fact of the incident i`ve > > > > > described > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > was kept as a public secret, possibly because of the > > > family > > > > > > > status. > > > > > > > > > Most likely that He lost brother in Mars/Ketu dasa > > > (Pisaca) > > > > > (he > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > five and a half year old then) for which Aq lagna fits > > > more as > > > > > > > Ma/Kt > > > > > > > > > aspect 3rd from A11-Dhanu. This should give death in a > > > distant > > > > > > > place > > > > > > > > > but considering that its not 3rd from AL (death of the > > > person > > > > > > > itself) > > > > > > > > > i think it gives different indications. Dhanu means > > fall > > > from > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > height. It`s aspected by all planets amnog which lagna > > > lord- > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Jupiter in own rasi in Chanadala yoga are strongest. > > This > > > > > means > > > > > > > > > involvment of the person himself and confirms the > > Chandala > > > > > effect. > > > > > > > > > if i could explain also his nature and abilities from > > Aq i > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > definetely accept it. Help? > > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > <sohamsa%40> > > > > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > > > > 40> > > > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > > > 40>, > > > > > > > > > Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From wiki: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikola was one of five children, having one brother > > > (Dane, > > > > > who > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > killed in a horse-riding accident when Nikola was > > five) > > > and > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > sisters (Milka, Angelina and Marica).[10]:3 His family > > > moved > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > Gospiæ in 1862. Tesla went to school in Karlovac. He > > > finished > > > > > a > > > > > > > four > > > > > > > > > year term in the span of three years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic <tijanadamjanovic@> > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > <sohamsa%40> > > > > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > > > > 40> > > > > > > > <sohamsa%40> > > > > > > > > > > Monday, September 24, 2007 7:45:49 AM > > > > > > > > > > Re: Extent of Nabhasa yoga 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you will give comments on some points that are > > > > > coming to > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the time i used (23:33) lagna falls in the last > > > pada of > > > > > > > Revati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nakshatra. Lagna and 10th lord-Jupiter forms > > > > > Darmakarmaadipati > > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being in mutual aspect with 9th lord-AK Mars. Sarada > > > yoga is > > > > > > > formed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the 5th and 4th lord (apart from studies of > > physics > > > > > Tesla > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very learned in many branches and he spoke seven > > > languages). > > > > > > > Lords > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 5th and 9th (both) are in 7th also cofirming > > gyana. > > > > > Mercury > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars` (AK) nakshatra showing the nature of > > intelligence > > > and > > > > > > > > > learning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This becomes significant considering that Mars is AK > > > > > vargottama, > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same as Ketu and Rahu. I find these planets being > > > > > responsible > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inventive mind related to electricity, its > > transmission, > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > Tesla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also spoke about and did many researches on nuclear > > > energy > > > > > but > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forsaw coming of the World War II... Mars and Ketu > > are > > > in > > > > > > > karakamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th in navamsa also producing bramacarya. Dasamsa > > > has the > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pattern-Kt, Ma, Rh in 1-7 axis with Me in lagna and > > Sy- > > > AmK > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th with the digbala from AL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandala yoga is interesting and could be the > > > explanation > > > > > for > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > incident from childhood. Most likely that he is > > > responsible > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his brother-while playing with brother as child, > > he > > > > > > > accidently > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pushed him from the attic that resulted in tragedy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Michal Dziwulski > > > > > > > <nearmichal@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also the chart of a great inventor - > > Nicola > > > > > Tesla - > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has all planets in Dual signs - Gemini, Virgo, and > > > Pisces. > > > > > Is > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nala yoga? Results are poor physique, accumulates > > money, > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > looks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > helps relatives, and is skillful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He was certainly skillful, being responsible for > > > > > virtually all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > modern technology. However he died impoverished and > > was > > > > > terrible > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with money. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps the Serbians amongst us can throw some > > light > > > on > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > chart? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > > > > > _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ __ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? 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Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 || Hare Rama Krushna || Namaskaar, It would be great if Vistiji could provide us more understanding of the disability that Guru-Chandal in Pisces in lagna could have caused to Mr. Tesla. You see, if we take Aries lagna then the biggest dilemma is - how could such a heavily afflicted Moon in dusthana from lagna and AL have given Tesla such fame? Tesla is very famous among engineers all over the world, and even among general masses in America (I remember watching documentary on his life, most probably on Boston public television). People are still opening companies in his name(*). Surely, Moon has to be in kendra from lagna or at least AL for such fame. Now, if we were to explain his fame in foreign countries from that afflicted Gaja kesari yoga in the 12th from lagna for Aries lagna, we are essentially treating 12th as the lagna of the native (because he is in a foreign country) and explaining his fame thereby. That does not sound quite right. In short, I suggest we reconsider Pisces lagna for Tesla because he was famous and there is no question about it in my mind at least. (*) - http://www.teslamotors.com May Sri Vishnu bless us all, Reema. sohamsa , " tijanadamjanovic " <tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > Dear Vistiji, > i came across a detail about big change that occured when he was 12 > so i`ll think about this in relation to naisargika dasa. > What kind of physical abnormalites exactly this would give > considering planets involved for Meena? Would genital organs be the > only? > Warm regards, > Tijana > > sohamsa , Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > Dear Sundeep and Tijana, Namaskar > > Teslas case is definitely one of OCD, without doubt. > > And both Pisces and Aries lagna are significantly afflicted. > > Yet, i maintain that the special case of Pisces lagna would also > have > > given physical abnormalities (saravali). Jupiter is indeed on the > lagna, > > but because Rahu is also there it would be difficult to count the > > blessings in his life. > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > -- > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com > > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > vedicastrostudent wrote: > > > > > > Dear Tijanaji, > > > Your paragraph about Nikolai Tesla has aroused my interest. > Several > > > of his problems sound like my sister's. That is OCD (Obsessive > > > Compulsive Disorder), not schizophrenia. Or do you have evidence > of > > > schizophrenia as well - the paragraph you have written contains > only > > > symptoms of OCD. > > > > > > Interestingly, with Aries Lagna, he has Mars, Moon, Ketu in the > > > 6th. My sister has exalted Rahu, Venus, Moon in the 6th, Rahu AK. > My > > > sister's talent is art, not math and/or physics - which she hates. > > > She was an absolutely brilliant artist - genius flowed from her > > > hands, now she is too depressed for it to come out any more. Her > > > outstanding obsessive fear was always of disease, mostly cancer > > > (she's never had cancer). > > > > > > Birthdata in case you're interested is 14 May 1964, New Delhi, > > > India, 23:45pm (unrectified). > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% > 40>, > > > " tijanadamjanovic " > > > <tijanadamjanovic@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Vistiji, > > > > What is the greatest part of jyotish discussions is seeing how > > > veils > > > > of maya/arudha are falling slowly. > > > > Afliction of lagna, paka lagna, Moon and Jupiter in both cases > > > made > > > > me explore more about details of Tesla`s personality. > > > > He definetely was a kind of a border case considering mental > > > > stability with serious sympthoms of schyzophrenia. I give an > > > extract > > > > from what he wrote about himself: > > > > > > > > " The sight of a pearl would almost give me a fit...I would not > > > touch > > > > the hair of other people except, perhaps at the point of a > > > > revolver...I counted the steps in my walks and calculated the > > > cubical > > > > contents of soup plates, coffee cups and pieces of food, > otherwise > > > my > > > > meal was unenjoyable. All repeated acts or operations I > performed > > > had > > > > to be divisible by three and if I missed I felt impelled to do > it > > > all > > > > over again, even if it took hours...I would get a fever by > looking > > > at > > > > a peach and if a piece of camphor was anywhere in the house it > > > caused > > > > me the keenest discomfort... My feelings came in waves and > surges > > > and > > > > variated unceasingly between extremes. My wishes were of > consuming > > > > force and like the heads of the hydra, they multiplied. I was > > > > oppressed by thoughts of pain in life and death and religious > > > fear. I > > > > was swayed by superstitious belief and lived in constant dread > of > > > the > > > > spirit of evil, of ghosts and ogres and other unholy monsters of > > > the > > > > dark...In the dark I had the sense of a bat and could detect the > > > > presence of an object at a distance of 12 feet by a peculiar > > > creepy > > > > sensation on the forehead. " (If only many other people were so > > > aware > > > > and truthful about own weaknesses our learning would benefit > > > > greatly). > > > > > > > > I see this as definitive and strong mark of nodes (pearls, > > > camphor, > > > > obsessiveness and desires-Rahu; hair, ghosts, extra-sensory > > > > perception related to darkness-Ketu) and even though both lagnas > > > are > > > > inflenced by them i take it to be Guru in lagna (and > Gajakeshari) > > > > that saved his mind after all released a genius in him. > > > > I`m waiting for your opinion on this. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% > 40>, > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana, Namaskar > > > > > I didn't know that it was his elder brother who died, but i > > > found > > > > that > > > > > it was. > > > > > > > > > > So we must see eleventh from AL which you have also done. From > > > > > Dhanurarudha you mentioned the Venus is the lord of the > eleventh > > > > > therefrom and is the natural bhratrmaraka. In fact this > negative- > > > > aspect > > > > > of Venus normally doesn't come to pass when it is influenced > by > > > > Jupiter, > > > > > or Venus lords the house in question. Also if Venus had been > > > given > > > > this > > > > > power it would have annihilated all elder siblings, and not > just > > > > the one > > > > > elder brother. > > > > > > > > > > So based on this Dhanurarudha really doesn't work for Tesla. > > > > > > > > > > The Shoola Mahadasa is the most important in ascertaining the > > > > demise of > > > > > brother. According to Jaimini Saturn is the sthira karaka for > > > elder > > > > > brother (1.1.24). > > > > > Further we analyze the Shoola dasa from the stronger between > > > fifth > > > > and > > > > > eleventh. For both Aries and Pisces lagna, the first Shoola > dasa > > > is > > > > in > > > > > the third/eighth from Sthira karaka Saturn and will both show > > > > danger to > > > > > the brother. Hence neither can be excluded based on Dasa. > > > > > > > > > > Reg. Balarishta if Moon is the cause of it, then surely the > > > > strength of > > > > > the Moon will take the native out of Balarishta. I believe > > > Jupiter > > > > is > > > > > making that Moon strong, but he would have seen danger to his > > > own > > > > life > > > > > during childhood. > > > > > > > > > > Finally, our discussion would benefit greatly, and i would > also > > > > > encourage that you go into depth with your analysis. > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Dear Vistiji, > > > > > > I appreciate your comments very much as i find them > inspiring. > > > > > > I don`t know what is the logic behind Parasara`s dictum to > be > > > > able to > > > > > > say is Dimantha the cause of cancelation. What comes to my > > > mind > > > > is- > > > > > > the 4th lord as the 3rd from the 2nd house is the > controller of > > > > > > growth of speech and Mars role in this is based on Mercury`s > > > > enmity > > > > > > towards him. I don`t see why lagna lord would alter this. > > > > > > I agree that Gajakeshari could save mother (Chandra lords > 4th) > > > but > > > > > > not the person as neither Ch nor Gu influence lagna. > > > > > > Tesla lost older brother and, true, Chandala connected to > 11th > > > > from > > > > > > AL could be the strongest argument. But for Dhanuraruda, > Sukra > > > > (Rudra > > > > > > for older brother) lords 11th from AL and Shoola dasa of the > > > time > > > > of > > > > > > brother`s demise is Cp/Ge. Gemini holds the Rudra and is in > > > trine > > > > to > > > > > > Tula-11th from AL. From A11 Cp and Ge are third and eight > signs > > > > > > respecitively. i made only quick look here as i don`t feel > > > like > > > > going > > > > > > into it deep now. So please correct. I think that this point > > > > brings > > > > > > the final word. > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > > > 40>, > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana, Namaskar > > > > > > > Thank you for your reply. > > > > > > > I think the dictum by Parasara is canceled due to the > > > Dhimantah > > > > > > Yoga. My > > > > > > > worry for Meena lagna is that the lagna itself is too > > > afflicted > > > > and > > > > > > will > > > > > > > give disabilities. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did i mention disease? I thought it was more sudden, i.e. > > > due > > > > to a > > > > > > > hemorrhage (mars)? Meena lagna would show long term > disease > > > > before > > > > > > > death. Rahu's graha dristi will not give dustha marana > > > yoga... > > > > it > > > > > > has to > > > > > > > be rasi dristi to actualize. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The malefics along the sixth and twelfth do cause > troubles to > > > > > > mother, > > > > > > > but i'm confident that the Gajakesari cleared up all that. > > > How > > > > > > about the > > > > > > > Gajakesari's influence on the Balarishta yoga? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Was the demised brother an elder or younger brother? This > is > > > > > > important, > > > > > > > as i cannot justify AK lording the third from AL being > able > > > to > > > > take > > > > > > the > > > > > > > YOUNGER brother out of this world. Yet, Guruchandala yoga > on > > > the > > > > > > > eleventh house from AL is very telling of this, and the > > > > unnatural > > > > > > > circumstances within which this happened. In fact because > of > > > > this > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > he personally could be accused of murder (associated with > > > AL). > > > > > > Yet, > > > > > > > with Dhanurarudha we can justify this happening to younger > > > > brother. > > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > > > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > > > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > > > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > > > > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > Dear Vistiji, namaskar > > > > > > > > thank you for clearing this out. Just a few more doubts. > > > > > > > > Parasara says that the native get dumbness when there`s > a > > > > movable > > > > > > > > sign in the 4th house and the lord of the 4th house and > > > Mars > > > > are > > > > > > > > placed in the 6th or 12th. > > > > > > > > One dictum isn`t enough for sure. > > > > > > > > Malefics` aspect on 11th from AL (Mars and Saturn) will > > > > destroy > > > > > > elder > > > > > > > > brothers, but for Mesha lagna 3rd from AL is also > > > afflicted by > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > > and Rahu so this would damage younger siblings. > > > > > > > > Mesha lagna shows balarishta. Chandra is afflicted with > > > three > > > > > > > > malefics in dustana (this gives early demise of mother > > > also) > > > > and > > > > > > > > there`s no single benefic aspect on lagna. Also all > > > planets > > > > are in > > > > > > > > apoklimas and none of them I would take as a strong. > What > > > > saved > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > life? > > > > > > > > For Meena lagna I took, lagna is in gandanta and Ch in > 7th > > > > with > > > > > > two > > > > > > > > malefics also confirming early death, but Mars AK is in > > > 7th > > > > house > > > > > > > > giving Viprita ayus (early death of brother). > > > > > > > > You gave the disease as the reason of death. However, > for > > > > Mesah > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > 3rd from AL doesn`t have connection with Saturn. It is > > > > afflicted > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > Mars and Rahu that would give dusta marana. > > > > > > > > Hope you can explain this. > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > > > 40> > > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > > 40>, > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana and Michal, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > I suspect that Tijana is right about Aries lagna. My > > > reasons > > > > > > based > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > the atmakaraka in the chart itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A significant aspect of his life was that he remained > > > > unmarried > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > without children. If we take Aries lagna, what is > highly > > > > > > evident is > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > i) lord of Upapada; ii) lord of twelfth house; iii) > > > lords > > > > of a3 > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > a9; > > > > > > > > > iv) chara darakaraka; are all placed in the Marana > > > Karaka > > > > Sthana > > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > from Atmakaraka Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Further with Mars as AK in the sixth house of > celibacy, > > > it > > > > does > > > > > > > > point > > > > > > > > > strongly towards the lack of physical relationships. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both Aries and Pisces point towards Pravrajya yoga, > but > > > > Pisces > > > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > > would also fulfill a dictum of Saravali which could > lead > > > to > > > > > > > > significant > > > > > > > > > disability, and abnormal growth of 'extra' limbs. > > > Sanjayji > > > > has > > > > > > > > proven > > > > > > > > > this principle in a past issue of the Jyotish digest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are dhimantah yogas from both Pisces and Aries > > > > lagnas, yet > > > > > > > > the one > > > > > > > > > from Aries is extremely evident and would speak > volumes > > > of > > > > > > Tesla's > > > > > > > > ability. > > > > > > > > > His conflicts with Edison can be justified from both > > > lagnas > > > > as > > > > > > > > well, as > > > > > > > > > Mars or Mercury as Atmakarakas tend to attract > > > > such 'unwanted' > > > > > > > > > attention. Yet, with Aries lagna the AK goes to the > > > sixth > > > > house > > > > > > > > showing > > > > > > > > > the 'battle' with a very powerful foe such as that of > > > > Edison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His fame was not in Europe and least of all Yugoslavia > > > > until the > > > > > > > > world > > > > > > > > > knew of his 'conquests' abroad. This is very evident > > > with > > > > the > > > > > > > > Gajakesari > > > > > > > > > yoga in the twelfth house. Further, his nakshatra lord > > > must > > > > also > > > > > > > > confirm > > > > > > > > > to show the building of museums in his name. Moon is > the > > > > > > nakshatra > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > and is in the Gajakesari in rasi, and is in own sign > in > > > > > > navamsa. It > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > for this reason that his work still has an imprint on > > > this > > > > > > world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The eleventh lord from arudha lagna points towards his > > > elder > > > > > > > > brother > > > > > > > > > having his demise due to the guru-chandala yoga. > Further > > > his > > > > > > demise > > > > > > > > due > > > > > > > > > to a heart attack is more evident with Mars lording > the > > > 3rd > > > > from > > > > > > > > AL - > > > > > > > > > i.e. some excess pressure in the blood, yet natural > > > causes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the first drekkana of lagna is more accurate, > > > with > > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > eighth in Jagannath Drekkana showing the obsession > with > > > > science. > > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > somanath drekkana having a debilitated, yet with > neecha > > > > bhanga > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > kendra also seems to point towards his highs and lows > in > > > his > > > > > > fame. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This leaves us with three navamsa's, among which a > node > > > > should > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > trikona to show his math and scientific abilities. > Thus > > > > Taurus > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > > applicable with Ketu and Mars in trines. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > > > > > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > > > > > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > > > > > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > > > > > > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>>> > > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > > > yes, this is very interesting and think we should > > > stick to > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > (number of brothers and sisters) and possible > incident. > > > > > > > > > > Researches made about Tesla and his life shortly > after > > > the > > > > > > end of > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > World War II brought out the fact of the incident > i`ve > > > > > > described > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > was kept as a public secret, possibly because of the > > > > family > > > > > > > > status. > > > > > > > > > > Most likely that He lost brother in Mars/Ketu dasa > > > > (Pisaca) > > > > > > (he > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > five and a half year old then) for which Aq lagna > fits > > > > more as > > > > > > > > Ma/Kt > > > > > > > > > > aspect 3rd from A11-Dhanu. This should give death > in a > > > > distant > > > > > > > > place > > > > > > > > > > but considering that its not 3rd from AL (death of > the > > > > person > > > > > > > > itself) > > > > > > > > > > i think it gives different indications. Dhanu means > > > fall > > > > from > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > height. It`s aspected by all planets amnog which > lagna > > > > lord- > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter in own rasi in Chanadala yoga are strongest. > > > This > > > > > > means > > > > > > > > > > involvment of the person himself and confirms the > > > Chandala > > > > > > effect. > > > > > > > > > > if i could explain also his nature and abilities > from > > > Aq i > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > definetely accept it. Help? > > > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > > <sohamsa%40> > > > > > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > > > > > 40> > > > > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > > > > 40>, > > > > > > > > > > Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From wiki: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikola was one of five children, having one > brother > > > > (Dane, > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > killed in a horse-riding accident when Nikola was > > > five) > > > > and > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > sisters (Milka, Angelina and Marica).[10]:3 His > family > > > > moved > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > Gospiæ in 1862. Tesla went to school in Karlovac. He > > > > finished > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > four > > > > > > > > > > year term in the span of three years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic <tijanadamjanovic@> > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > > <sohamsa%40> > > > > > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > > > > > 40> > > > > > > > > <sohamsa%40> > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, September 24, 2007 7:45:49 AM > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Extent of Nabhasa yoga 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you will give comments on some points that > are > > > > > > coming to > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the time i used (23:33) lagna falls in the > last > > > > pada of > > > > > > > > Revati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nakshatra. Lagna and 10th lord-Jupiter forms > > > > > > Darmakarmaadipati > > > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being in mutual aspect with 9th lord-AK Mars. > Sarada > > > > yoga is > > > > > > > > formed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the 5th and 4th lord (apart from studies of > > > physics > > > > > > Tesla > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very learned in many branches and he spoke seven > > > > languages). > > > > > > > > Lords > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 5th and 9th (both) are in 7th also cofirming > > > gyana. > > > > > > Mercury > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars` (AK) nakshatra showing the nature of > > > intelligence > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > learning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This becomes significant considering that Mars is > AK > > > > > > vargottama, > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same as Ketu and Rahu. I find these planets being > > > > > > responsible > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inventive mind related to electricity, its > > > transmission, > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > Tesla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also spoke about and did many researches on > nuclear > > > > energy > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forsaw coming of the World War II... Mars and Ketu > > > are > > > > in > > > > > > > > karakamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th in navamsa also producing bramacarya. > Dasamsa > > > > has the > > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pattern-Kt, Ma, Rh in 1-7 axis with Me in lagna > and > > > Sy- > > > > AmK > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th with the digbala from AL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandala yoga is interesting and could be the > > > > explanation > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > incident from childhood. Most likely that he is > > > > responsible > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his brother-while playing with brother as > child, > > > he > > > > > > > > accidently > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pushed him from the attic that resulted in > tragedy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Michal Dziwulski > > > > > > > > <nearmichal@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also the chart of a great inventor - > > > Nicola > > > > > > Tesla - > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has all planets in Dual signs - Gemini, Virgo, and > > > > Pisces. > > > > > > Is > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nala yoga? Results are poor physique, accumulates > > > money, > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > looks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > helps relatives, and is skillful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He was certainly skillful, being responsible for > > > > > > virtually all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > modern technology. However he died impoverished > and > > > was > > > > > > terrible > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with money. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps the Serbians amongst us can throw some > > > light > > > > on > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > chart? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ > _________ > > > > > > _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ __ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moody friends. 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Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Om Gurave Namah Dear Vistiji, The second part of Tesla`s life began exactly with his travel to America (1884) and thus 6th and 12th house in case of Mesha lagna explains fruitful years of his greatest inventions. This period was marked with dissagrements and conflicts he had with Edison so again 6- 12 axis. Vimsotari dasa of the time he went to America was Ju/Ju- Jupiter is lord of the 9th in 12th conjoining Rahu and is aspected by badhakesh Saturn. Final years of this middle part of life (period of the beginning of World War I) is represented by 11th house (AL in Kumbha) and his image was seriously damaged here due to the attacks of mental dissorders that public came to know about-Rahu. One of his last researches done were on communication and radar system which confirms effects of the 3rd house in the last part of life. Early childhood is better explaind by Cancer 4th house. Change that occurred around his 12th year as he mentioned, that made him develop willforce, must be mark of bramacarya effect with entering the period of sexual growth and determination. Choosing bramacarya path, Mars AK blessed him with strenght and will power. This also gave him enormous energy for working and researches. I think i`ll get back to navamsa you proposed now. Warm regards, Tijana sohamsa , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ?????? > > Dear Sundeep and Tijana, Namaskar > Teslas case is definitely one of OCD, without doubt. > And both Pisces and Aries lagna are significantly afflicted. > Yet, i maintain that the special case of Pisces lagna would also have > given physical abnormalities (saravali). Jupiter is indeed on the lagna, > but because Rahu is also there it would be difficult to count the > blessings in his life. > Looking forward to your reply. > > Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti <visti > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > <http://srigaruda.com> > > vedicastrostudent wrote: > > > > Dear Tijanaji, > > Your paragraph about Nikolai Tesla has aroused my interest. Several > > of his problems sound like my sister's. That is OCD (Obsessive > > Compulsive Disorder), not schizophrenia. Or do you have evidence of > > schizophrenia as well - the paragraph you have written contains only > > symptoms of OCD. > > > > Interestingly, with Aries Lagna, he has Mars, Moon, Ketu in the > > 6th. My sister has exalted Rahu, Venus, Moon in the 6th, Rahu AK. My > > sister's talent is art, not math and/or physics - which she hates. > > She was an absolutely brilliant artist - genius flowed from her > > hands, now she is too depressed for it to come out any more. Her > > outstanding obsessive fear was always of disease, mostly cancer > > (she's never had cancer). > > > > Birthdata in case you're interested is 14 May 1964, New Delhi, > > India, 23:45pm (unrectified). > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sundeep > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > " tijanadamjanovic " > > <tijanadamjanovic@> wrote: > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > Dear Vistiji, > > > What is the greatest part of jyotish discussions is seeing how > > veils > > > of maya/arudha are falling slowly. > > > Afliction of lagna, paka lagna, Moon and Jupiter in both cases > > made > > > me explore more about details of Tesla`s personality. > > > He definetely was a kind of a border case considering mental > > > stability with serious sympthoms of schyzophrenia. I give an > > extract > > > from what he wrote about himself: > > > > > > " The sight of a pearl would almost give me a fit...I would not > > touch > > > the hair of other people except, perhaps at the point of a > > > revolver...I counted the steps in my walks and calculated the > > cubical > > > contents of soup plates, coffee cups and pieces of food, otherwise > > my > > > meal was unenjoyable. All repeated acts or operations I performed > > had > > > to be divisible by three and if I missed I felt impelled to do it > > all > > > over again, even if it took hours...I would get a fever by looking > > at > > > a peach and if a piece of camphor was anywhere in the house it > > caused > > > me the keenest discomfort... My feelings came in waves and surges > > and > > > variated unceasingly between extremes. My wishes were of consuming > > > force and like the heads of the hydra, they multiplied. I was > > > oppressed by thoughts of pain in life and death and religious > > fear. I > > > was swayed by superstitious belief and lived in constant dread of > > the > > > spirit of evil, of ghosts and ogres and other unholy monsters of > > the > > > dark...In the dark I had the sense of a bat and could detect the > > > presence of an object at a distance of 12 feet by a peculiar > > creepy > > > sensation on the forehead. " (If only many other people were so > > aware > > > and truthful about own weaknesses our learning would benefit > > > greatly). > > > > > > I see this as definitive and strong mark of nodes (pearls, > > camphor, > > > obsessiveness and desires-Rahu; hair, ghosts, extra-sensory > > > perception related to darkness-Ketu) and even though both lagnas > > are > > > inflenced by them i take it to be Guru in lagna (and Gajakeshari) > > > that saved his mind after all released a genius in him. > > > I`m waiting for your opinion on this. > > > Warm regards, > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana, Namaskar > > > > I didn't know that it was his elder brother who died, but i > > found > > > that > > > > it was. > > > > > > > > So we must see eleventh from AL which you have also done. From > > > > Dhanurarudha you mentioned the Venus is the lord of the eleventh > > > > therefrom and is the natural bhratrmaraka. In fact this negative- > > > aspect > > > > of Venus normally doesn't come to pass when it is influenced by > > > Jupiter, > > > > or Venus lords the house in question. Also if Venus had been > > given > > > this > > > > power it would have annihilated all elder siblings, and not just > > > the one > > > > elder brother. > > > > > > > > So based on this Dhanurarudha really doesn't work for Tesla. > > > > > > > > The Shoola Mahadasa is the most important in ascertaining the > > > demise of > > > > brother. According to Jaimini Saturn is the sthira karaka for > > elder > > > > brother (1.1.24). > > > > Further we analyze the Shoola dasa from the stronger between > > fifth > > > and > > > > eleventh. For both Aries and Pisces lagna, the first Shoola dasa > > is > > > in > > > > the third/eighth from Sthira karaka Saturn and will both show > > > danger to > > > > the brother. Hence neither can be excluded based on Dasa. > > > > > > > > Reg. Balarishta if Moon is the cause of it, then surely the > > > strength of > > > > the Moon will take the native out of Balarishta. I believe > > Jupiter > > > is > > > > making that Moon strong, but he would have seen danger to his > > own > > > life > > > > during childhood. > > > > > > > > Finally, our discussion would benefit greatly, and i would also > > > > encourage that you go into depth with your analysis. > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > Dear Vistiji, > > > > > I appreciate your comments very much as i find them inspiring. > > > > > I don`t know what is the logic behind Parasara`s dictum to be > > > able to > > > > > say is Dimantha the cause of cancelation. What comes to my > > mind > > > is- > > > > > the 4th lord as the 3rd from the 2nd house is the controller of > > > > > growth of speech and Mars role in this is based on Mercury`s > > > enmity > > > > > towards him. I don`t see why lagna lord would alter this. > > > > > I agree that Gajakeshari could save mother (Chandra lords 4th) > > but > > > > > not the person as neither Ch nor Gu influence lagna. > > > > > Tesla lost older brother and, true, Chandala connected to 11th > > > from > > > > > AL could be the strongest argument. But for Dhanuraruda, Sukra > > > (Rudra > > > > > for older brother) lords 11th from AL and Shoola dasa of the > > time > > > of > > > > > brother`s demise is Cp/Ge. Gemini holds the Rudra and is in > > trine > > > to > > > > > Tula-11th from AL. From A11 Cp and Ge are third and eight signs > > > > > respecitively. i made only quick look here as i don`t feel > > like > > > going > > > > > into it deep now. So please correct. I think that this point > > > brings > > > > > the final word. > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > > 40>, > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana, Namaskar > > > > > > Thank you for your reply. > > > > > > I think the dictum by Parasara is canceled due to the > > Dhimantah > > > > > Yoga. My > > > > > > worry for Meena lagna is that the lagna itself is too > > afflicted > > > and > > > > > will > > > > > > give disabilities. > > > > > > > > > > > > Did i mention disease? I thought it was more sudden, i.e. > > due > > > to a > > > > > > hemorrhage (mars)? Meena lagna would show long term disease > > > before > > > > > > death. Rahu's graha dristi will not give dustha marana > > yoga... > > > it > > > > > has to > > > > > > be rasi dristi to actualize. > > > > > > > > > > > > The malefics along the sixth and twelfth do cause troubles to > > > > > mother, > > > > > > but i'm confident that the Gajakesari cleared up all that. > > How > > > > > about the > > > > > > Gajakesari's influence on the Balarishta yoga? > > > > > > > > > > > > Was the demised brother an elder or younger brother? This is > > > > > important, > > > > > > as i cannot justify AK lording the third from AL being able > > to > > > take > > > > > the > > > > > > YOUNGER brother out of this world. Yet, Guruchandala yoga on > > the > > > > > > eleventh house from AL is very telling of this, and the > > > unnatural > > > > > > circumstances within which this happened. In fact because of > > > this > > > > > yoga > > > > > > he personally could be accused of murder (associated with > > AL). > > > > > Yet, > > > > > > with Dhanurarudha we can justify this happening to younger > > > brother. > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > > > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > Dear Vistiji, namaskar > > > > > > > thank you for clearing this out. Just a few more doubts. > > > > > > > Parasara says that the native get dumbness when there`s a > > > movable > > > > > > > sign in the 4th house and the lord of the 4th house and > > Mars > > > are > > > > > > > placed in the 6th or 12th. > > > > > > > One dictum isn`t enough for sure. > > > > > > > Malefics` aspect on 11th from AL (Mars and Saturn) will > > > destroy > > > > > elder > > > > > > > brothers, but for Mesha lagna 3rd from AL is also > > afflicted by > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > and Rahu so this would damage younger siblings. > > > > > > > Mesha lagna shows balarishta. Chandra is afflicted with > > three > > > > > > > malefics in dustana (this gives early demise of mother > > also) > > > and > > > > > > > there`s no single benefic aspect on lagna. Also all > > planets > > > are in > > > > > > > apoklimas and none of them I would take as a strong. What > > > saved > > > > > his > > > > > > > life? > > > > > > > For Meena lagna I took, lagna is in gandanta and Ch in 7th > > > with > > > > > two > > > > > > > malefics also confirming early death, but Mars AK is in > > 7th > > > house > > > > > > > giving Viprita ayus (early death of brother). > > > > > > > You gave the disease as the reason of death. However, for > > > Mesah > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > 3rd from AL doesn`t have connection with Saturn. It is > > > afflicted > > > > > by > > > > > > > Mars and Rahu that would give dusta marana. > > > > > > > Hope you can explain this. > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > > 40> > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > 40>, > > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana and Michal, Namaskar > > > > > > > > I suspect that Tijana is right about Aries lagna. My > > reasons > > > > > based > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > the atmakaraka in the chart itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A significant aspect of his life was that he remained > > > unmarried > > > > > and > > > > > > > > without children. If we take Aries lagna, what is highly > > > > > evident is > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > i) lord of Upapada; ii) lord of twelfth house; iii) > > lords > > > of a3 > > > > > and > > > > > > > a9; > > > > > > > > iv) chara darakaraka; are all placed in the Marana > > Karaka > > > Sthana > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > from Atmakaraka Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Further with Mars as AK in the sixth house of celibacy, > > it > > > does > > > > > > > point > > > > > > > > strongly towards the lack of physical relationships. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both Aries and Pisces point towards Pravrajya yoga, but > > > Pisces > > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > would also fulfill a dictum of Saravali which could lead > > to > > > > > > > significant > > > > > > > > disability, and abnormal growth of 'extra' limbs. > > Sanjayji > > > has > > > > > > > proven > > > > > > > > this principle in a past issue of the Jyotish digest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are dhimantah yogas from both Pisces and Aries > > > lagnas, yet > > > > > > > the one > > > > > > > > from Aries is extremely evident and would speak volumes > > of > > > > > Tesla's > > > > > > > ability. > > > > > > > > His conflicts with Edison can be justified from both > > lagnas > > > as > > > > > > > well, as > > > > > > > > Mars or Mercury as Atmakarakas tend to attract > > > such 'unwanted' > > > > > > > > attention. Yet, with Aries lagna the AK goes to the > > sixth > > > house > > > > > > > showing > > > > > > > > the 'battle' with a very powerful foe such as that of > > > Edison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His fame was not in Europe and least of all Yugoslavia > > > until the > > > > > > > world > > > > > > > > knew of his 'conquests' abroad. This is very evident > > with > > > the > > > > > > > Gajakesari > > > > > > > > yoga in the twelfth house. Further, his nakshatra lord > > must > > > also > > > > > > > confirm > > > > > > > > to show the building of museums in his name. Moon is the > > > > > nakshatra > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > and is in the Gajakesari in rasi, and is in own sign in > > > > > navamsa. It > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > for this reason that his work still has an imprint on > > this > > > > > world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The eleventh lord from arudha lagna points towards his > > elder > > > > > > > brother > > > > > > > > having his demise due to the guru-chandala yoga. Further > > his > > > > > demise > > > > > > > due > > > > > > > > to a heart attack is more evident with Mars lording the > > 3rd > > > from > > > > > > > AL - > > > > > > > > i.e. some excess pressure in the blood, yet natural > > causes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the first drekkana of lagna is more accurate, > > with > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > eighth in Jagannath Drekkana showing the obsession with > > > science. > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > somanath drekkana having a debilitated, yet with neecha > > > bhanga > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > kendra also seems to point towards his highs and lows in > > his > > > > > fame. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This leaves us with three navamsa's, among which a node > > > should > > > > > be > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > trikona to show his math and scientific abilities. Thus > > > Taurus > > > > > is > > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > applicable with Ketu and Mars in trines. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > > > > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > > > > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > > > > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > > > > > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>>> > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > > yes, this is very interesting and think we should > > stick to > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > (number of brothers and sisters) and possible incident. > > > > > > > > > Researches made about Tesla and his life shortly after > > the > > > > > end of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > World War II brought out the fact of the incident i`ve > > > > > described > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > was kept as a public secret, possibly because of the > > > family > > > > > > > status. > > > > > > > > > Most likely that He lost brother in Mars/Ketu dasa > > > (Pisaca) > > > > > (he > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > five and a half year old then) for which Aq lagna fits > > > more as > > > > > > > Ma/Kt > > > > > > > > > aspect 3rd from A11-Dhanu. This should give death in a > > > distant > > > > > > > place > > > > > > > > > but considering that its not 3rd from AL (death of the > > > person > > > > > > > itself) > > > > > > > > > i think it gives different indications. Dhanu means > > fall > > > from > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > height. It`s aspected by all planets amnog which lagna > > > lord- > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Jupiter in own rasi in Chanadala yoga are strongest. > > This > > > > > means > > > > > > > > > involvment of the person himself and confirms the > > Chandala > > > > > effect. > > > > > > > > > if i could explain also his nature and abilities from > > Aq i > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > definetely accept it. Help? > > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > <sohamsa%40> > > > > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > > > > 40> > > > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > > > 40>, > > > > > > > > > Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From wiki: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikola was one of five children, having one brother > > > (Dane, > > > > > who > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > killed in a horse-riding accident when Nikola was > > five) > > > and > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > sisters (Milka, Angelina and Marica).[10]:3 His family > > > moved > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > Gospiæ in 1862. Tesla went to school in Karlovac. He > > > finished > > > > > a > > > > > > > four > > > > > > > > > year term in the span of three years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic <tijanadamjanovic@> > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > <sohamsa%40> > > > > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > > > > 40> > > > > > > > <sohamsa%40> > > > > > > > > > > Monday, September 24, 2007 7:45:49 AM > > > > > > > > > > Re: Extent of Nabhasa yoga 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you will give comments on some points that are > > > > > coming to > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the time i used (23:33) lagna falls in the last > > > pada of > > > > > > > Revati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nakshatra. Lagna and 10th lord-Jupiter forms > > > > > Darmakarmaadipati > > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being in mutual aspect with 9th lord-AK Mars. Sarada > > > yoga is > > > > > > > formed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the 5th and 4th lord (apart from studies of > > physics > > > > > Tesla > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very learned in many branches and he spoke seven > > > languages). > > > > > > > Lords > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 5th and 9th (both) are in 7th also cofirming > > gyana. > > > > > Mercury > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars` (AK) nakshatra showing the nature of > > intelligence > > > and > > > > > > > > > learning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This becomes significant considering that Mars is AK > > > > > vargottama, > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same as Ketu and Rahu. I find these planets being > > > > > responsible > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inventive mind related to electricity, its > > transmission, > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > Tesla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also spoke about and did many researches on nuclear > > > energy > > > > > but > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forsaw coming of the World War II... Mars and Ketu > > are > > > in > > > > > > > karakamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th in navamsa also producing bramacarya. Dasamsa > > > has the > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pattern-Kt, Ma, Rh in 1-7 axis with Me in lagna and > > Sy- > > > AmK > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th with the digbala from AL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandala yoga is interesting and could be the > > > explanation > > > > > for > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > incident from childhood. Most likely that he is > > > responsible > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his brother-while playing with brother as child, > > he > > > > > > > accidently > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pushed him from the attic that resulted in tragedy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Michal Dziwulski > > > > > > > <nearmichal@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also the chart of a great inventor - > > Nicola > > > > > Tesla - > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has all planets in Dual signs - Gemini, Virgo, and > > > Pisces. > > > > > Is > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nala yoga? Results are poor physique, accumulates > > money, > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > looks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > helps relatives, and is skillful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He was certainly skillful, being responsible for > > > > > virtually all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > modern technology. However he died impoverished and > > was > > > > > terrible > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with money. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps the Serbians amongst us can throw some > > light > > > on > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > chart? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > > > > > _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ __ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? 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Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Dear Tijanaji and Vistiji, Thank you for you very informative posts on this topic. If at any time you decide to write a paper on your findings, I will be very interested in reading it.. Sundeep sohamsa , " tijanadamjanovic " <tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > Dear Sundeep, namaskar > You are right, the symtopms i gave are OCD. However, there are > details that point to schizophrenia as well: > " In my boyhood I suffered from a peculiar affliction due to the > appearance of images, often accompanied by strong flashes of light, > which marred the sight of real objects and interfered with my > thoughts and action. They were pictures of things and scenes which I > had really seen, never of those imagined. When a word was spoken to > me the image of the object it designated would present itself vividly > to my vision and sometimes I was quite unable to distinguish whether > what I saw was tangible or not...When I drop little squares of paper > in a dish filled with liquid, I always sense a peculiar and awful > taste in my mouth...I was about twelve years of age when I first > succeeded in banishing an image from my vision by willful effort, but > I never had any control over the flashes of light to which I have > referred... " > > These are the symptoms that fall into group of halucinations- visual, > gustatory, very likely auditory, and delusions-of reference, in the > first place (halucinations and delusions are most common symptoms os > schizophrenia). > Schizophrenia range from occasionally manifesting symptoms that don`t > have to bring complete disability of cognitive and emotional > functions to catatonic shizophrenia and other forms with prominent so > called negative symptomps which lead to loosing of important life > abilities. > Very common form of sch. is childhood schizophrenia and i think we > have it in Tesla`s case. > Thank you very much for the birth details of your sister (what you > wrote tells about prominent somatic delusions). My thesis is that all > forms are defined primarily by the stongest malefic influence on mana > and dhi, for example-Mars` visual like with Tesla, Saturn for > somatic, Rahu paranoic...D60 being crucial. I will look into it, as > this has began to occupy my interest. > Warm regards, > Tijana > > sohamsa , " vedicastrostudent " > <vedicastrostudent@> wrote: > > > > Dear Tijanaji, > > Your paragraph about Nikolai Tesla has aroused my interest. > Several > > of his problems sound like my sister's. That is OCD (Obsessive > > Compulsive Disorder), not schizophrenia. Or do you have evidence of > > schizophrenia as well - the paragraph you have written contains > only > > symptoms of OCD. > > > > Interestingly, with Aries Lagna, he has Mars, Moon, Ketu in the > > 6th. My sister has exalted Rahu, Venus, Moon in the 6th, Rahu AK. > My > > sister's talent is art, not math and/or physics - which she hates. > > She was an absolutely brilliant artist - genius flowed from her > > hands, now she is too depressed for it to come out any more. Her > > outstanding obsessive fear was always of disease, mostly cancer > > (she's never had cancer). > > > > Birthdata in case you're interested is 14 May 1964, New Delhi, > > India, 23:45pm (unrectified). > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > sohamsa , " tijanadamjanovic " > > <tijanadamjanovic@> wrote: > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > Dear Vistiji, > > > What is the greatest part of jyotish discussions is seeing how > > veils > > > of maya/arudha are falling slowly. > > > Afliction of lagna, paka lagna, Moon and Jupiter in both cases > > made > > > me explore more about details of Tesla`s personality. > > > He definetely was a kind of a border case considering mental > > > stability with serious sympthoms of schyzophrenia. I give an > > extract > > > from what he wrote about himself: > > > > > > " The sight of a pearl would almost give me a fit...I would not > > touch > > > the hair of other people except, perhaps at the point of a > > > revolver...I counted the steps in my walks and calculated the > > cubical > > > contents of soup plates, coffee cups and pieces of food, > otherwise > > my > > > meal was unenjoyable. All repeated acts or operations I performed > > had > > > to be divisible by three and if I missed I felt impelled to do it > > all > > > over again, even if it took hours...I would get a fever by > looking > > at > > > a peach and if a piece of camphor was anywhere in the house it > > caused > > > me the keenest discomfort... My feelings came in waves and surges > > and > > > variated unceasingly between extremes. My wishes were of > consuming > > > force and like the heads of the hydra, they multiplied. I was > > > oppressed by thoughts of pain in life and death and religious > > fear. I > > > was swayed by superstitious belief and lived in constant dread of > > the > > > spirit of evil, of ghosts and ogres and other unholy monsters of > > the > > > dark...In the dark I had the sense of a bat and could detect the > > > presence of an object at a distance of 12 feet by a peculiar > > creepy > > > sensation on the forehead. " (If only many other people were so > > aware > > > and truthful about own weaknesses our learning would benefit > > > greatly). > > > > > > I see this as definitive and strong mark of nodes (pearls, > > camphor, > > > obsessiveness and desires-Rahu; hair, ghosts, extra-sensory > > > perception related to darkness-Ketu) and even though both lagnas > > are > > > inflenced by them i take it to be Guru in lagna (and Gajakeshari) > > > that saved his mind after all released a genius in him. > > > I`m waiting for your opinion on this. > > > Warm regards, > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana, Namaskar > > > > I didn't know that it was his elder brother who died, but i > > found > > > that > > > > it was. > > > > > > > > So we must see eleventh from AL which you have also done. From > > > > Dhanurarudha you mentioned the Venus is the lord of the > eleventh > > > > therefrom and is the natural bhratrmaraka. In fact this > negative- > > > aspect > > > > of Venus normally doesn't come to pass when it is influenced by > > > Jupiter, > > > > or Venus lords the house in question. Also if Venus had been > > given > > > this > > > > power it would have annihilated all elder siblings, and not > just > > > the one > > > > elder brother. > > > > > > > > So based on this Dhanurarudha really doesn't work for Tesla. > > > > > > > > The Shoola Mahadasa is the most important in ascertaining the > > > demise of > > > > brother. According to Jaimini Saturn is the sthira karaka for > > elder > > > > brother (1.1.24). > > > > Further we analyze the Shoola dasa from the stronger between > > fifth > > > and > > > > eleventh. For both Aries and Pisces lagna, the first Shoola > dasa > > is > > > in > > > > the third/eighth from Sthira karaka Saturn and will both show > > > danger to > > > > the brother. Hence neither can be excluded based on Dasa. > > > > > > > > Reg. Balarishta if Moon is the cause of it, then surely the > > > strength of > > > > the Moon will take the native out of Balarishta. I believe > > Jupiter > > > is > > > > making that Moon strong, but he would have seen danger to his > > own > > > life > > > > during childhood. > > > > > > > > Finally, our discussion would benefit greatly, and i would also > > > > encourage that you go into depth with your analysis. > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > > http://srigaruda.com > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > Dear Vistiji, > > > > > I appreciate your comments very much as i find them inspiring. > > > > > I don`t know what is the logic behind Parasara`s dictum to be > > > able to > > > > > say is Dimantha the cause of cancelation. What comes to my > > mind > > > is- > > > > > the 4th lord as the 3rd from the 2nd house is the controller > of > > > > > growth of speech and Mars role in this is based on Mercury`s > > > enmity > > > > > towards him. I don`t see why lagna lord would alter this. > > > > > I agree that Gajakeshari could save mother (Chandra lords > 4th) > > but > > > > > not the person as neither Ch nor Gu influence lagna. > > > > > Tesla lost older brother and, true, Chandala connected to > 11th > > > from > > > > > AL could be the strongest argument. But for Dhanuraruda, > Sukra > > > (Rudra > > > > > for older brother) lords 11th from AL and Shoola dasa of the > > time > > > of > > > > > brother`s demise is Cp/Ge. Gemini holds the Rudra and is in > > trine > > > to > > > > > Tula-11th from AL. From A11 Cp and Ge are third and eight > signs > > > > > respecitively. i made only quick look here as i don`t feel > > like > > > going > > > > > into it deep now. So please correct. I think that this point > > > brings > > > > > the final word. > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% > > > 40>, > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana, Namaskar > > > > > > Thank you for your reply. > > > > > > I think the dictum by Parasara is canceled due to the > > Dhimantah > > > > > Yoga. My > > > > > > worry for Meena lagna is that the lagna itself is too > > afflicted > > > and > > > > > will > > > > > > give disabilities. > > > > > > > > > > > > Did i mention disease? I thought it was more sudden, i.e. > > due > > > to a > > > > > > hemorrhage (mars)? Meena lagna would show long term disease > > > before > > > > > > death. Rahu's graha dristi will not give dustha marana > > yoga... > > > it > > > > > has to > > > > > > be rasi dristi to actualize. > > > > > > > > > > > > The malefics along the sixth and twelfth do cause troubles > to > > > > > mother, > > > > > > but i'm confident that the Gajakesari cleared up all that. > > How > > > > > about the > > > > > > Gajakesari's influence on the Balarishta yoga? > > > > > > > > > > > > Was the demised brother an elder or younger brother? This is > > > > > important, > > > > > > as i cannot justify AK lording the third from AL being able > > to > > > take > > > > > the > > > > > > YOUNGER brother out of this world. Yet, Guruchandala yoga > on > > the > > > > > > eleventh house from AL is very telling of this, and the > > > unnatural > > > > > > circumstances within which this happened. In fact because > of > > > this > > > > > yoga > > > > > > he personally could be accused of murder (associated with > > AL). > > > > > Yet, > > > > > > with Dhanurarudha we can justify this happening to younger > > > brother. > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > > > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > Dear Vistiji, namaskar > > > > > > > thank you for clearing this out. Just a few more doubts. > > > > > > > Parasara says that the native get dumbness when there`s a > > > movable > > > > > > > sign in the 4th house and the lord of the 4th house and > > Mars > > > are > > > > > > > placed in the 6th or 12th. > > > > > > > One dictum isn`t enough for sure. > > > > > > > Malefics` aspect on 11th from AL (Mars and Saturn) will > > > destroy > > > > > elder > > > > > > > brothers, but for Mesha lagna 3rd from AL is also > > afflicted by > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > and Rahu so this would damage younger siblings. > > > > > > > Mesha lagna shows balarishta. Chandra is afflicted with > > three > > > > > > > malefics in dustana (this gives early demise of mother > > also) > > > and > > > > > > > there`s no single benefic aspect on lagna. Also all > > planets > > > are in > > > > > > > apoklimas and none of them I would take as a strong. What > > > saved > > > > > his > > > > > > > life? > > > > > > > For Meena lagna I took, lagna is in gandanta and Ch in > 7th > > > with > > > > > two > > > > > > > malefics also confirming early death, but Mars AK is in > > 7th > > > house > > > > > > > giving Viprita ayus (early death of brother). > > > > > > > You gave the disease as the reason of death. However, for > > > Mesah > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > 3rd from AL doesn`t have connection with Saturn. It is > > > afflicted > > > > > by > > > > > > > Mars and Rahu that would give dusta marana. > > > > > > > Hope you can explain this. > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% > > > 40> > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > 40>, > > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana and Michal, Namaskar > > > > > > > > I suspect that Tijana is right about Aries lagna. My > > reasons > > > > > based > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > the atmakaraka in the chart itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A significant aspect of his life was that he remained > > > unmarried > > > > > and > > > > > > > > without children. If we take Aries lagna, what is highly > > > > > evident is > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > i) lord of Upapada; ii) lord of twelfth house; iii) > > lords > > > of a3 > > > > > and > > > > > > > a9; > > > > > > > > iv) chara darakaraka; are all placed in the Marana > > Karaka > > > Sthana > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > from Atmakaraka Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Further with Mars as AK in the sixth house of celibacy, > > it > > > does > > > > > > > point > > > > > > > > strongly towards the lack of physical relationships. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both Aries and Pisces point towards Pravrajya yoga, but > > > Pisces > > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > would also fulfill a dictum of Saravali which could > lead > > to > > > > > > > significant > > > > > > > > disability, and abnormal growth of 'extra' limbs. > > Sanjayji > > > has > > > > > > > proven > > > > > > > > this principle in a past issue of the Jyotish digest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are dhimantah yogas from both Pisces and Aries > > > lagnas, yet > > > > > > > the one > > > > > > > > from Aries is extremely evident and would speak volumes > > of > > > > > Tesla's > > > > > > > ability. > > > > > > > > His conflicts with Edison can be justified from both > > lagnas > > > as > > > > > > > well, as > > > > > > > > Mars or Mercury as Atmakarakas tend to attract > > > such 'unwanted' > > > > > > > > attention. Yet, with Aries lagna the AK goes to the > > sixth > > > house > > > > > > > showing > > > > > > > > the 'battle' with a very powerful foe such as that of > > > Edison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His fame was not in Europe and least of all Yugoslavia > > > until the > > > > > > > world > > > > > > > > knew of his 'conquests' abroad. This is very evident > > with > > > the > > > > > > > Gajakesari > > > > > > > > yoga in the twelfth house. Further, his nakshatra lord > > must > > > also > > > > > > > confirm > > > > > > > > to show the building of museums in his name. Moon is the > > > > > nakshatra > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > and is in the Gajakesari in rasi, and is in own sign in > > > > > navamsa. It > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > for this reason that his work still has an imprint on > > this > > > > > world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The eleventh lord from arudha lagna points towards his > > elder > > > > > > > brother > > > > > > > > having his demise due to the guru-chandala yoga. > Further > > his > > > > > demise > > > > > > > due > > > > > > > > to a heart attack is more evident with Mars lording the > > 3rd > > > from > > > > > > > AL - > > > > > > > > i.e. some excess pressure in the blood, yet natural > > causes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the first drekkana of lagna is more accurate, > > with > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > eighth in Jagannath Drekkana showing the obsession with > > > science. > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > somanath drekkana having a debilitated, yet with neecha > > > bhanga > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > kendra also seems to point towards his highs and lows > in > > his > > > > > fame. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This leaves us with three navamsa's, among which a node > > > should > > > > > be > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > trikona to show his math and scientific abilities. Thus > > > Taurus > > > > > is > > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > applicable with Ketu and Mars in trines. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > > > > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > > > > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > > > > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > > > > > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > <http://srigaruda.com > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > > yes, this is very interesting and think we should > > stick to > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > (number of brothers and sisters) and possible > incident. > > > > > > > > > Researches made about Tesla and his life shortly > after > > the > > > > > end of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > World War II brought out the fact of the incident i`ve > > > > > described > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > was kept as a public secret, possibly because of the > > > family > > > > > > > status. > > > > > > > > > Most likely that He lost brother in Mars/Ketu dasa > > > (Pisaca) > > > > > (he > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > five and a half year old then) for which Aq lagna > fits > > > more as > > > > > > > Ma/Kt > > > > > > > > > aspect 3rd from A11-Dhanu. This should give death in > a > > > distant > > > > > > > place > > > > > > > > > but considering that its not 3rd from AL (death of > the > > > person > > > > > > > itself) > > > > > > > > > i think it gives different indications. Dhanu means > > fall > > > from > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > height. It`s aspected by all planets amnog which > lagna > > > lord- > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Jupiter in own rasi in Chanadala yoga are strongest. > > This > > > > > means > > > > > > > > > involvment of the person himself and confirms the > > Chandala > > > > > effect. > > > > > > > > > if i could explain also his nature and abilities from > > Aq i > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > definetely accept it. Help? > > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > > > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > > > > 40> > > > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > > > 40>, > > > > > > > > > Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From wiki: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikola was one of five children, having one brother > > > (Dane, > > > > > who > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > killed in a horse-riding accident when Nikola was > > five) > > > and > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > sisters (Milka, Angelina and Marica).[10]:3 His > family > > > moved > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > Gospiæ in 1862. Tesla went to school in Karlovac. He > > > finished > > > > > a > > > > > > > four > > > > > > > > > year term in the span of three years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic <tijanadamjanovic@> > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > > > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > > > > 40> > > > > > > > <sohamsa%40> > > > > > > > > > > Monday, September 24, 2007 7:45:49 AM > > > > > > > > > > Re: Extent of Nabhasa yoga 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you will give comments on some points that > are > > > > > coming to > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the time i used (23:33) lagna falls in the last > > > pada of > > > > > > > Revati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nakshatra. Lagna and 10th lord-Jupiter forms > > > > > Darmakarmaadipati > > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being in mutual aspect with 9th lord-AK Mars. > Sarada > > > yoga is > > > > > > > formed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the 5th and 4th lord (apart from studies of > > physics > > > > > Tesla > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very learned in many branches and he spoke seven > > > languages). > > > > > > > Lords > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 5th and 9th (both) are in 7th also cofirming > > gyana. > > > > > Mercury > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars` (AK) nakshatra showing the nature of > > intelligence > > > and > > > > > > > > > learning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This becomes significant considering that Mars is AK > > > > > vargottama, > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same as Ketu and Rahu. I find these planets being > > > > > responsible > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inventive mind related to electricity, its > > transmission, > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > Tesla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also spoke about and did many researches on nuclear > > > energy > > > > > but > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forsaw coming of the World War II... Mars and Ketu > > are > > > in > > > > > > > karakamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th in navamsa also producing bramacarya. > Dasamsa > > > has the > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pattern-Kt, Ma, Rh in 1-7 axis with Me in lagna and > > Sy- > > > AmK > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th with the digbala from AL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandala yoga is interesting and could be the > > > explanation > > > > > for > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > incident from childhood. Most likely that he is > > > responsible > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his brother-while playing with brother as child, > > he > > > > > > > accidently > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pushed him from the attic that resulted in tragedy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Michal Dziwulski > > > > > > > <nearmichal@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also the chart of a great inventor - > > Nicola > > > > > Tesla - > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has all planets in Dual signs - Gemini, Virgo, and > > > Pisces. > > > > > Is > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nala yoga? Results are poor physique, accumulates > > money, > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > looks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > helps relatives, and is skillful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He was certainly skillful, being responsible for > > > > > virtually all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > modern technology. However he died impoverished and > > was > > > > > terrible > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with money. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps the Serbians amongst us can throw some > > light > > > on > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > chart? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > > > > > _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ __ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? 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Guest guest Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 Om Gurave Namah Dear Sundeep, Indications of the problem in rasi chart are visible, but only D30 shows the problem completely. In Rasi, Rahu AK leads the Kala Sarpa yoga and being Atma karaka it slightly changes basic meaning of the yoga which doesn`t mean it didn`t bring great pressure in life. The strenght of the Sun and Jupiter is needed to overcome and fight its influences. However, Jupiter is not in a kendra from Rahu and it bears a curse. Sun is in Sankranti and being lord of the 8th house in 5th shows the dosha that inflences mana also (5th house). Moon is badly placed in 6th in Rahu`s nakshatra and it conjoins Venus- form of Rudra yoga (this form of the yoga prooves to give big problems in female charts). Lagna lord is in satabishek nakshatra and pakesh conjoins Moon-generally Rahu`s impact on mind and dhi is strong. All this isn`t sufficient to show serious mental disorder. But in D30 that is a replication of 6th house and sastamsa=chitamsa in higher mental plane, Moon (mana) and Jupiter (dhi) are conjoined by four malefics-Mars, Ketu, Saturn and debilitated Rahu AK and this is the cause of mental insatability supported by Sarpa yoga in rasi and aflicted Moon, Jupiter and paka lagna. Rahu and Saturn lord 6th house in D30 that confirms somatic delusions, fright from diseases and paranoic behaviour. Shiva worship is necessary along with remedy for sankranti. I would advise worship of Sri Tara Devi also. Warm regards, Tijana sohamsa , " vedicastrostudent " <vedicastrostudent wrote: > > Dear Tijanaji, > Your paragraph about Nikolai Tesla has aroused my interest. Several > of his problems sound like my sister's. That is OCD (Obsessive > Compulsive Disorder), not schizophrenia. Or do you have evidence of > schizophrenia as well - the paragraph you have written contains only > symptoms of OCD. > > Interestingly, with Aries Lagna, he has Mars, Moon, Ketu in the > 6th. My sister has exalted Rahu, Venus, Moon in the 6th, Rahu AK. My > sister's talent is art, not math and/or physics - which she hates. > She was an absolutely brilliant artist - genius flowed from her > hands, now she is too depressed for it to come out any more. Her > outstanding obsessive fear was always of disease, mostly cancer > (she's never had cancer). > > Birthdata in case you're interested is 14 May 1964, New Delhi, > India, 23:45pm (unrectified). > > Thanks, > > Sundeep > > > sohamsa , " tijanadamjanovic " > <tijanadamjanovic@> wrote: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Vistiji, > > What is the greatest part of jyotish discussions is seeing how > veils > > of maya/arudha are falling slowly. > > Afliction of lagna, paka lagna, Moon and Jupiter in both cases > made > > me explore more about details of Tesla`s personality. > > He definetely was a kind of a border case considering mental > > stability with serious sympthoms of schyzophrenia. I give an > extract > > from what he wrote about himself: > > > > " The sight of a pearl would almost give me a fit...I would not > touch > > the hair of other people except, perhaps at the point of a > > revolver...I counted the steps in my walks and calculated the > cubical > > contents of soup plates, coffee cups and pieces of food, otherwise > my > > meal was unenjoyable. All repeated acts or operations I performed > had > > to be divisible by three and if I missed I felt impelled to do it > all > > over again, even if it took hours...I would get a fever by looking > at > > a peach and if a piece of camphor was anywhere in the house it > caused > > me the keenest discomfort... My feelings came in waves and surges > and > > variated unceasingly between extremes. My wishes were of consuming > > force and like the heads of the hydra, they multiplied. I was > > oppressed by thoughts of pain in life and death and religious > fear. I > > was swayed by superstitious belief and lived in constant dread of > the > > spirit of evil, of ghosts and ogres and other unholy monsters of > the > > dark...In the dark I had the sense of a bat and could detect the > > presence of an object at a distance of 12 feet by a peculiar > creepy > > sensation on the forehead. " (If only many other people were so > aware > > and truthful about own weaknesses our learning would benefit > > greatly). > > > > I see this as definitive and strong mark of nodes (pearls, > camphor, > > obsessiveness and desires-Rahu; hair, ghosts, extra-sensory > > perception related to darkness-Ketu) and even though both lagnas > are > > inflenced by them i take it to be Guru in lagna (and Gajakeshari) > > that saved his mind after all released a genius in him. > > I`m waiting for your opinion on this. > > Warm regards, > > Tijana > > > > > > > > sohamsa , Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > Dear Tijana, Namaskar > > > I didn't know that it was his elder brother who died, but i > found > > that > > > it was. > > > > > > So we must see eleventh from AL which you have also done. From > > > Dhanurarudha you mentioned the Venus is the lord of the eleventh > > > therefrom and is the natural bhratrmaraka. In fact this negative- > > aspect > > > of Venus normally doesn't come to pass when it is influenced by > > Jupiter, > > > or Venus lords the house in question. Also if Venus had been > given > > this > > > power it would have annihilated all elder siblings, and not just > > the one > > > elder brother. > > > > > > So based on this Dhanurarudha really doesn't work for Tesla. > > > > > > The Shoola Mahadasa is the most important in ascertaining the > > demise of > > > brother. According to Jaimini Saturn is the sthira karaka for > elder > > > brother (1.1.24). > > > Further we analyze the Shoola dasa from the stronger between > fifth > > and > > > eleventh. For both Aries and Pisces lagna, the first Shoola dasa > is > > in > > > the third/eighth from Sthira karaka Saturn and will both show > > danger to > > > the brother. Hence neither can be excluded based on Dasa. > > > > > > Reg. Balarishta if Moon is the cause of it, then surely the > > strength of > > > the Moon will take the native out of Balarishta. I believe > Jupiter > > is > > > making that Moon strong, but he would have seen danger to his > own > > life > > > during childhood. > > > > > > Finally, our discussion would benefit greatly, and i would also > > > encourage that you go into depth with your analysis. > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > -- > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > http://srigaruda.com > > > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Vistiji, > > > > I appreciate your comments very much as i find them inspiring. > > > > I don`t know what is the logic behind Parasara`s dictum to be > > able to > > > > say is Dimantha the cause of cancelation. What comes to my > mind > > is- > > > > the 4th lord as the 3rd from the 2nd house is the controller of > > > > growth of speech and Mars role in this is based on Mercury`s > > enmity > > > > towards him. I don`t see why lagna lord would alter this. > > > > I agree that Gajakeshari could save mother (Chandra lords 4th) > but > > > > not the person as neither Ch nor Gu influence lagna. > > > > Tesla lost older brother and, true, Chandala connected to 11th > > from > > > > AL could be the strongest argument. But for Dhanuraruda, Sukra > > (Rudra > > > > for older brother) lords 11th from AL and Shoola dasa of the > time > > of > > > > brother`s demise is Cp/Ge. Gemini holds the Rudra and is in > trine > > to > > > > Tula-11th from AL. From A11 Cp and Ge are third and eight signs > > > > respecitively. i made only quick look here as i don`t feel > like > > going > > > > into it deep now. So please correct. I think that this point > > brings > > > > the final word. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% > > 40>, > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana, Namaskar > > > > > Thank you for your reply. > > > > > I think the dictum by Parasara is canceled due to the > Dhimantah > > > > Yoga. My > > > > > worry for Meena lagna is that the lagna itself is too > afflicted > > and > > > > will > > > > > give disabilities. > > > > > > > > > > Did i mention disease? I thought it was more sudden, i.e. > due > > to a > > > > > hemorrhage (mars)? Meena lagna would show long term disease > > before > > > > > death. Rahu's graha dristi will not give dustha marana > yoga... > > it > > > > has to > > > > > be rasi dristi to actualize. > > > > > > > > > > The malefics along the sixth and twelfth do cause troubles to > > > > mother, > > > > > but i'm confident that the Gajakesari cleared up all that. > How > > > > about the > > > > > Gajakesari's influence on the Balarishta yoga? > > > > > > > > > > Was the demised brother an elder or younger brother? This is > > > > important, > > > > > as i cannot justify AK lording the third from AL being able > to > > take > > > > the > > > > > YOUNGER brother out of this world. Yet, Guruchandala yoga on > the > > > > > eleventh house from AL is very telling of this, and the > > unnatural > > > > > circumstances within which this happened. In fact because of > > this > > > > yoga > > > > > he personally could be accused of murder (associated with > AL). > > > > Yet, > > > > > with Dhanurarudha we can justify this happening to younger > > brother. > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Dear Vistiji, namaskar > > > > > > thank you for clearing this out. Just a few more doubts. > > > > > > Parasara says that the native get dumbness when there`s a > > movable > > > > > > sign in the 4th house and the lord of the 4th house and > Mars > > are > > > > > > placed in the 6th or 12th. > > > > > > One dictum isn`t enough for sure. > > > > > > Malefics` aspect on 11th from AL (Mars and Saturn) will > > destroy > > > > elder > > > > > > brothers, but for Mesha lagna 3rd from AL is also > afflicted by > > > > Mars > > > > > > and Rahu so this would damage younger siblings. > > > > > > Mesha lagna shows balarishta. Chandra is afflicted with > three > > > > > > malefics in dustana (this gives early demise of mother > also) > > and > > > > > > there`s no single benefic aspect on lagna. Also all > planets > > are in > > > > > > apoklimas and none of them I would take as a strong. What > > saved > > > > his > > > > > > life? > > > > > > For Meena lagna I took, lagna is in gandanta and Ch in 7th > > with > > > > two > > > > > > malefics also confirming early death, but Mars AK is in > 7th > > house > > > > > > giving Viprita ayus (early death of brother). > > > > > > You gave the disease as the reason of death. However, for > > Mesah > > > > lagna > > > > > > 3rd from AL doesn`t have connection with Saturn. It is > > afflicted > > > > by > > > > > > Mars and Rahu that would give dusta marana. > > > > > > Hope you can explain this. > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% > > 40> > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > 40>, > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana and Michal, Namaskar > > > > > > > I suspect that Tijana is right about Aries lagna. My > reasons > > > > based > > > > > > on > > > > > > > the atmakaraka in the chart itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A significant aspect of his life was that he remained > > unmarried > > > > and > > > > > > > without children. If we take Aries lagna, what is highly > > > > evident is > > > > > > that > > > > > > > i) lord of Upapada; ii) lord of twelfth house; iii) > lords > > of a3 > > > > and > > > > > > a9; > > > > > > > iv) chara darakaraka; are all placed in the Marana > Karaka > > Sthana > > > > > > house > > > > > > > from Atmakaraka Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Further with Mars as AK in the sixth house of celibacy, > it > > does > > > > > > point > > > > > > > strongly towards the lack of physical relationships. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both Aries and Pisces point towards Pravrajya yoga, but > > Pisces > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > would also fulfill a dictum of Saravali which could lead > to > > > > > > significant > > > > > > > disability, and abnormal growth of 'extra' limbs. > Sanjayji > > has > > > > > > proven > > > > > > > this principle in a past issue of the Jyotish digest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are dhimantah yogas from both Pisces and Aries > > lagnas, yet > > > > > > the one > > > > > > > from Aries is extremely evident and would speak volumes > of > > > > Tesla's > > > > > > ability. > > > > > > > His conflicts with Edison can be justified from both > lagnas > > as > > > > > > well, as > > > > > > > Mars or Mercury as Atmakarakas tend to attract > > such 'unwanted' > > > > > > > attention. Yet, with Aries lagna the AK goes to the > sixth > > house > > > > > > showing > > > > > > > the 'battle' with a very powerful foe such as that of > > Edison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His fame was not in Europe and least of all Yugoslavia > > until the > > > > > > world > > > > > > > knew of his 'conquests' abroad. This is very evident > with > > the > > > > > > Gajakesari > > > > > > > yoga in the twelfth house. Further, his nakshatra lord > must > > also > > > > > > confirm > > > > > > > to show the building of museums in his name. Moon is the > > > > nakshatra > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > and is in the Gajakesari in rasi, and is in own sign in > > > > navamsa. It > > > > > > is > > > > > > > for this reason that his work still has an imprint on > this > > > > world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The eleventh lord from arudha lagna points towards his > elder > > > > > > brother > > > > > > > having his demise due to the guru-chandala yoga. Further > his > > > > demise > > > > > > due > > > > > > > to a heart attack is more evident with Mars lording the > 3rd > > from > > > > > > AL - > > > > > > > i.e. some excess pressure in the blood, yet natural > causes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the first drekkana of lagna is more accurate, > with > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > in > > > > > > > eighth in Jagannath Drekkana showing the obsession with > > science. > > > > > > The > > > > > > > somanath drekkana having a debilitated, yet with neecha > > bhanga > > > > Mars > > > > > > in > > > > > > > kendra also seems to point towards his highs and lows in > his > > > > fame. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This leaves us with three navamsa's, among which a node > > should > > > > be > > > > > > in > > > > > > > trikona to show his math and scientific abilities. Thus > > Taurus > > > > is > > > > > > very > > > > > > > applicable with Ketu and Mars in trines. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > > > > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > > > > > > email: visti@ <visti@> > > > > > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > > > > > > http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > <http://srigaruda.com > > > > <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > yes, this is very interesting and think we should > stick to > > > > this > > > > > > > > (number of brothers and sisters) and possible incident. > > > > > > > > Researches made about Tesla and his life shortly after > the > > > > end of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > World War II brought out the fact of the incident i`ve > > > > described > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > was kept as a public secret, possibly because of the > > family > > > > > > status. > > > > > > > > Most likely that He lost brother in Mars/Ketu dasa > > (Pisaca) > > > > (he > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > five and a half year old then) for which Aq lagna fits > > more as > > > > > > Ma/Kt > > > > > > > > aspect 3rd from A11-Dhanu. This should give death in a > > distant > > > > > > place > > > > > > > > but considering that its not 3rd from AL (death of the > > person > > > > > > itself) > > > > > > > > i think it gives different indications. Dhanu means > fall > > from > > > > the > > > > > > > > height. It`s aspected by all planets amnog which lagna > > lord- > > > > Mars > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > Jupiter in own rasi in Chanadala yoga are strongest. > This > > > > means > > > > > > > > involvment of the person himself and confirms the > Chandala > > > > effect. > > > > > > > > if i could explain also his nature and abilities from > Aq i > > > > would > > > > > > > > definetely accept it. Help? > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > > > 40> > > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > > 40>, > > > > > > > > Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From wiki: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikola was one of five children, having one brother > > (Dane, > > > > who > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > killed in a horse-riding accident when Nikola was > five) > > and > > > > three > > > > > > > > sisters (Milka, Angelina and Marica).[10]:3 His family > > moved > > > > to > > > > > > > > Gospiæ in 1862. Tesla went to school in Karlovac. He > > finished > > > > a > > > > > > four > > > > > > > > year term in the span of three years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic <tijanadamjanovic@> > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > > > 40> > > > > > > <sohamsa%40> > > > > > > > > > Monday, September 24, 2007 7:45:49 AM > > > > > > > > > Re: Extent of Nabhasa yoga 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you will give comments on some points that are > > > > coming to > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the time i used (23:33) lagna falls in the last > > pada of > > > > > > Revati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nakshatra. Lagna and 10th lord-Jupiter forms > > > > Darmakarmaadipati > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being in mutual aspect with 9th lord-AK Mars. Sarada > > yoga is > > > > > > formed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the 5th and 4th lord (apart from studies of > physics > > > > Tesla > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very learned in many branches and he spoke seven > > languages). > > > > > > Lords > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 5th and 9th (both) are in 7th also cofirming > gyana. > > > > Mercury > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars` (AK) nakshatra showing the nature of > intelligence > > and > > > > > > > > learning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This becomes significant considering that Mars is AK > > > > vargottama, > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same as Ketu and Rahu. I find these planets being > > > > responsible > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inventive mind related to electricity, its > transmission, > > > > etc. > > > > > > Tesla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also spoke about and did many researches on nuclear > > energy > > > > but > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forsaw coming of the World War II... Mars and Ketu > are > > in > > > > > > karakamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th in navamsa also producing bramacarya. Dasamsa > > has the > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pattern-Kt, Ma, Rh in 1-7 axis with Me in lagna and > Sy- > > AmK > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 7th with the digbala from AL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandala yoga is interesting and could be the > > explanation > > > > for > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > incident from childhood. Most likely that he is > > responsible > > > > for > > > > > > > > death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of his brother-while playing with brother as child, > he > > > > > > accidently > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pushed him from the attic that resulted in tragedy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Michal Dziwulski > > > > > > <nearmichal@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Guruji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also the chart of a great inventor - > Nicola > > > > Tesla - > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has all planets in Dual signs - Gemini, Virgo, and > > Pisces. > > > > Is > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nala yoga? Results are poor physique, accumulates > money, > > > > good > > > > > > > > looks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > helps relatives, and is skillful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He was certainly skillful, being responsible for > > > > virtually all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > modern technology. However he died impoverished and > was > > > > terrible > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with money. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps the Serbians amongst us can throw some > light > > on > > > > this > > > > > > > > chart? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > > > > _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ __ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? 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Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Jai Ganesh, Please explain me about this Nabhasa Yoga specially when you are mentioning pices lagna & ARIES lagna as i have aries lagna what can you say looking up my kundali, i live in USA i am just a beginer in astrology so please check my chart & tell me ok DOB=12/MAY/1957, TIME= 04;45 AM, PLACE= ADEN [YEMEN] LONG/LATI=12N45,45E12 ARIES LAGNA & IN// ARIES=SUN,MERCURY,KETU,/// TAURAS=VENUS, MITHUN=MARS,///LEO=JUPITER///LIBRA=RAHU,MOON,///SCORPIO=SATURN, So please let me know on this yoga???? rashmipatel12 thanks reema_sriganesh <reema_sriganeshsohamsa Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 12:53:51 PM Re: Extent of Nabhasa yoga 2 || Hare Rama Krushna ||Namaskaar,It would be great if Vistiji could provide us more understanding ofthe disability that Guru-Chandal in Pisces in lagna could have causedto Mr. Tesla. You see, if we take Aries lagna then the biggest dilemma is - howcould such a heavily afflicted Moon in dusthana from lagna and AL havegiven Tesla such fame? Tesla is very famous among engineers all overthe world, and even among general masses in America (I rememberwatching documentary on his life, most probably on Boston publictelevision). People are still opening companies in his name(*).Surely, Moon has to be in kendra from lagna or at least AL for such fame.Now, if we were to explain his fame in foreign countries from thatafflicted Gaja kesari yoga in the 12th from lagna for Aries lagna, weare essentially treating 12th as the lagna of the native (because heis in a foreign country) and explaining his fame thereby. That doesnot sound quite right.In short, I suggest we reconsider Pisces lagna for Tesla because hewas famous and there is no question about it in my mind at least.(*) - http://www.teslamot ors.comMay Sri Vishnu bless us all,Reema.sohamsa@ .com, "tijanadamjanovic"<tijanadamjanovic@ ...> wrote:>> Om Gurave Namah> Dear Vistiji,> i came across a detail about big change that occured when he was 12 > so i`ll think about this in relation to naisargika dasa.> What kind of physical abnormalites exactly this would give > considering planets involved for Meena? Would genital organs be the > only?> Warm regards,> Tijana> > sohamsa@ .com, Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote:> >> > ??? ??? ??????> > > > Dear Sundeep and Tijana, Namaskar> > Teslas case is definitely one of OCD, without doubt.> > And both Pisces and Aries lagna are significantly afflicted.> > Yet, i maintain that the special case of Pisces lagna would also > have > > given physical abnormalities (saravali). Jupiter is indeed on the > lagna, > > but because Rahu is also there it would be difficult to count the > > blessings in his life.> > Looking forward to your reply.> > > > Yours sincerely,> > > > -- > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru> > Jaimini SJC - Denmark> > email: visti@ <visti@ >> > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: > http://srigaruda. com > > <http://srigaruda. com>> > > > vedicastrostudent wrote:> > >> > > Dear Tijanaji,> > > Your paragraph about Nikolai Tesla has aroused my interest. > Several> > > of his problems sound like my sister's. That is OCD (Obsessive> > > Compulsive Disorder), not schizophrenia. Or do you have evidence > of> > > schizophrenia as well - the paragraph you have written contains > only> > > symptoms of OCD.> > >> > > Interestingly, with Aries Lagna, he has Mars, Moon, Ketu in the> > > 6th. My sister has exalted Rahu, Venus, Moon in the 6th, Rahu AK. > My> > > sister's talent is art, not math and/or physics - which she hates.> > > She was an absolutely brilliant artist - genius flowed from her> > > hands, now she is too depressed for it to come out any more. Her> > > outstanding obsessive fear was always of disease, mostly cancer> > > (she's never had cancer).> > >> > > Birthdata in case you're interested is 14 May 1964, New Delhi,> > > India, 23:45pm (unrectified) .> > >> > > Thanks,> > >> > > Sundeep> > >> > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%> 40. com>, > > > "tijanadamjanovic"> > > <tijanadamjanovic@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Dear Vistiji,> > > > What is the greatest part of jyotish discussions is seeing how> > > veils> > > > of maya/arudha are falling slowly.> > > > Afliction of lagna, paka lagna, Moon and Jupiter in both cases> > > made> > > > me explore more about details of Tesla`s personality.> > > > He definetely was a kind of a border case considering mental> > > > stability with serious sympthoms of schyzophrenia. I give an> > > extract> > > > from what he wrote about himself:> > > >> > > > "The sight of a pearl would almost give me a fit...I would not> > > touch> > > > the hair of other people except, perhaps at the point of a> > > > revolver...I counted the steps in my walks and calculated the> > > cubical> > > > contents of soup plates, coffee cups and pieces of food, > otherwise> > > my> > > > meal was unenjoyable. All repeated acts or operations I > performed> > > had> > > > to be divisible by three and if I missed I felt impelled to do > it> > > all> > > > over again, even if it took hours...I would get a fever by > looking> > > at> > > > a peach and if a piece of camphor was anywhere in the house it> > > caused> > > > me the keenest discomfort.. . My feelings came in waves and > surges> > > and> > > > variated unceasingly between extremes. My wishes were of > consuming> > > > force and like the heads of the hydra, they multiplied. I was> > > > oppressed by thoughts of pain in life and death and religious> > > fear. I> > > > was swayed by superstitious belief and lived in constant dread > of> > > the> > > > spirit of evil, of ghosts and ogres and other unholy monsters of> > > the> > > > dark...In the dark I had the sense of a bat and could detect the> > > > presence of an object at a distance of 12 feet by a peculiar> > > creepy> > > > sensation on the forehead." (If only many other people were so> > > aware> > > > and truthful about own weaknesses our learning would benefit> > > > greatly).> > > >> > > > I see this as definitive and strong mark of nodes (pearls,> > > camphor,> > > > obsessiveness and desires-Rahu; hair, ghosts, extra-sensory> > > > perception related to darkness-Ketu) and even though both lagnas> > > are> > > > inflenced by them i take it to be Guru in lagna (and > Gajakeshari)> > > > that saved his mind after all released a genius in him.> > > > I`m waiting for your opinion on this.> > > > Warm regards,> > > > Tijana> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%> 40. com>, > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > ??? ??? ??????> > > > >> > > > > Dear Tijana, Namaskar> > > > > I didn't know that it was his elder brother who died, but i> > > found> > > > that> > > > > it was.> > > > >> > > > > So we must see eleventh from AL which you have also done. From> > > > > Dhanurarudha you mentioned the Venus is the lord of the > eleventh> > > > > therefrom and is the natural bhratrmaraka. In fact this > negative-> > > > aspect> > > > > of Venus normally doesn't come to pass when it is influenced > by> > > > Jupiter,> > > > > or Venus lords the house in question. Also if Venus had been> > > given> > > > this> > > > > power it would have annihilated all elder siblings, and not > just> > > > the one> > > > > elder brother.> > > > >> > > > > So based on this Dhanurarudha really doesn't work for Tesla.> > > > >> > > > > The Shoola Mahadasa is the most important in ascertaining the> > > > demise of> > > > > brother. According to Jaimini Saturn is the sthira karaka for> > > elder> > > > > brother (1.1.24).> > > > > Further we analyze the Shoola dasa from the stronger between> > > fifth> > > > and> > > > > eleventh. For both Aries and Pisces lagna, the first Shoola > dasa> > > is> > > > in> > > > > the third/eighth from Sthira karaka Saturn and will both show> > > > danger to> > > > > the brother. Hence neither can be excluded based on Dasa.> > > > >> > > > > Reg. Balarishta if Moon is the cause of it, then surely the> > > > strength of> > > > > the Moon will take the native out of Balarishta. I believe> > > Jupiter> > > > is> > > > > making that Moon strong, but he would have seen danger to his> > > own> > > > life> > > > > during childhood.> > > > >> > > > > Finally, our discussion would benefit greatly, and i would > also> > > > > encourage that you go into depth with your analysis.> > > > > Looking forward to your reply.> > > > >> > > > > Yours sincerely,> > > > >> > > > > --> > > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru> > > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark> > > > > email: visti@ <visti@ >> > > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit:> > > > http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>> > > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>>> > > > >> > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > Dear Vistiji,> > > > > > I appreciate your comments very much as i find them > inspiring.> > > > > > I don`t know what is the logic behind Parasara`s dictum to > be> > > > able to> > > > > > say is Dimantha the cause of cancelation. What comes to my> > > mind> > > > is-> > > > > > the 4th lord as the 3rd from the 2nd house is the > controller of> > > > > > growth of speech and Mars role in this is based on Mercury`s> > > > enmity> > > > > > towards him. I don`t see why lagna lord would alter this.> > > > > > I agree that Gajakeshari could save mother (Chandra lords > 4th)> > > but> > > > > > not the person as neither Ch nor Gu influence lagna.> > > > > > Tesla lost older brother and, true, Chandala connected to > 11th> > > > from> > > > > > AL could be the strongest argument. But for Dhanuraruda, > Sukra> > > > (Rudra> > > > > > for older brother) lords 11th from AL and Shoola dasa of the> > > time> > > > of> > > > > > brother`s demise is Cp/Ge. Gemini holds the Rudra and is in> > > trine> > > > to> > > > > > Tula-11th from AL. From A11 Cp and Ge are third and eight > signs> > > > > > respecitively. i made only quick look here as i don`t feel> > > like> > > > going> > > > > > into it deep now. So please correct. I think that this point> > > > brings> > > > > > the final word.> > > > > > Warm regards,> > > > > > Tijana> > > > > >> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > <sohamsa% 40. com> <sohamsa%> > > > 40. com>,> > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ??? ??? ??????> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Tijana, Namaskar> > > > > > > Thank you for your reply.> > > > > > > I think the dictum by Parasara is canceled due to the> > > Dhimantah> > > > > > Yoga. My> > > > > > > worry for Meena lagna is that the lagna itself is too> > > afflicted> > > > and> > > > > > will> > > > > > > give disabilities.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Did i mention disease? I thought it was more sudden, i.e.> > > due> > > > to a> > > > > > > hemorrhage (mars)? Meena lagna would show long term > disease> > > > before> > > > > > > death. Rahu's graha dristi will not give dustha marana> > > yoga...> > > > it> > > > > > has to> > > > > > > be rasi dristi to actualize.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The malefics along the sixth and twelfth do cause > troubles to> > > > > > mother,> > > > > > > but i'm confident that the Gajakesari cleared up all that.> > > How> > > > > > about the> > > > > > > Gajakesari's influence on the Balarishta yoga?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Was the demised brother an elder or younger brother? This > is> > > > > > important,> > > > > > > as i cannot justify AK lording the third from AL being > able> > > to> > > > take> > > > > > the> > > > > > > YOUNGER brother out of this world. Yet, Guruchandala yoga > on> > > the> > > > > > > eleventh house from AL is very telling of this, and the> > > > unnatural> > > > > > > circumstances within which this happened. In fact because > of> > > > this> > > > > > yoga> > > > > > > he personally could be accused of murder (associated with> > > AL).> > > > > > Yet,> > > > > > > with Dhanurarudha we can justify this happening to younger> > > > brother.> > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Yours sincerely,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --> > > > > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru> > > > > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark> > > > > > > email: visti@ <visti@ >> > > > > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit:> > > > > > http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>>> > > > > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>>>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > Dear Vistiji, namaskar> > > > > > > > thank you for clearing this out. Just a few more doubts.> > > > > > > > Parasara says that the native get dumbness when there`s > a> > > > movable> > > > > > > > sign in the 4th house and the lord of the 4th house and> > > Mars> > > > are> > > > > > > > placed in the 6th or 12th.> > > > > > > > One dictum isn`t enough for sure.> > > > > > > > Malefics` aspect on 11th from AL (Mars and Saturn) will> > > > destroy> > > > > > elder> > > > > > > > brothers, but for Mesha lagna 3rd from AL is also> > > afflicted by> > > > > > Mars> > > > > > > > and Rahu so this would damage younger siblings.> > > > > > > > Mesha lagna shows balarishta. Chandra is afflicted with> > > three> > > > > > > > malefics in dustana (this gives early demise of mother> > > also)> > > > and> > > > > > > > there`s no single benefic aspect on lagna. Also all> > > planets> > > > are in> > > > > > > > apoklimas and none of them I would take as a strong. > What> > > > saved> > > > > > his> > > > > > > > life?> > > > > > > > For Meena lagna I took, lagna is in gandanta and Ch in > 7th> > > > with> > > > > > two> > > > > > > > malefics also confirming early death, but Mars AK is in> > > 7th> > > > house> > > > > > > > giving Viprita ayus (early death of brother).> > > > > > > > You gave the disease as the reason of death. However, > for> > > > Mesah> > > > > > lagna> > > > > > > > 3rd from AL doesn`t have connection with Saturn. It is> > > > afflicted> > > > > > by> > > > > > > > Mars and Rahu that would give dusta marana.> > > > > > > > Hope you can explain this.> > > > > > > > Warm regards,> > > > > > > > Tijana> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > <sohamsa% 40. com> <sohamsa%> > > > 40. com>> > > > > > <sohamsa%> > > > > > 40. com>,> > > > > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ??????> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana and Michal, Namaskar> > > > > > > > > I suspect that Tijana is right about Aries lagna. My> > > reasons> > > > > > based> > > > > > > > on> > > > > > > > > the atmakaraka in the chart itself.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > A significant aspect of his life was that he remained> > > > unmarried> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > without children. If we take Aries lagna, what is > highly> > > > > > evident is> > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > i) lord of Upapada; ii) lord of twelfth house; iii)> > > lords> > > > of a3> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > a9;> > > > > > > > > iv) chara darakaraka; are all placed in the Marana> > > Karaka> > > > Sthana> > > > > > > > house> > > > > > > > > from Atmakaraka Mars.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Further with Mars as AK in the sixth house of > celibacy,> > > it> > > > does> > > > > > > > point> > > > > > > > > strongly towards the lack of physical relationships.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Both Aries and Pisces point towards Pravrajya yoga, > but> > > > Pisces> > > > > > > > lagna> > > > > > > > > would also fulfill a dictum of Saravali which could > lead> > > to> > > > > > > > significant> > > > > > > > > disability, and abnormal growth of 'extra' limbs.> > > Sanjayji> > > > has> > > > > > > > proven> > > > > > > > > this principle in a past issue of the Jyotish digest.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > There are dhimantah yogas from both Pisces and Aries> > > > lagnas, yet> > > > > > > > the one> > > > > > > > > from Aries is extremely evident and would speak > volumes> > > of> > > > > > Tesla's> > > > > > > > ability.> > > > > > > > > His conflicts with Edison can be justified from both> > > lagnas> > > > as> > > > > > > > well, as> > > > > > > > > Mars or Mercury as Atmakarakas tend to attract> > > > such 'unwanted'> > > > > > > > > attention. Yet, with Aries lagna the AK goes to the> > > sixth> > > > house> > > > > > > > showing> > > > > > > > > the 'battle' with a very powerful foe such as that of> > > > Edison.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > His fame was not in Europe and least of all Yugoslavia> > > > until the> > > > > > > > world> > > > > > > > > knew of his 'conquests' abroad. This is very evident> > > with> > > > the> > > > > > > > Gajakesari> > > > > > > > > yoga in the twelfth house. Further, his nakshatra lord> > > must> > > > also> > > > > > > > confirm> > > > > > > > > to show the building of museums in his name. Moon is > the> > > > > > nakshatra> > > > > > > > lord> > > > > > > > > and is in the Gajakesari in rasi, and is in own sign > in> > > > > > navamsa. It> > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > for this reason that his work still has an imprint on> > > this> > > > > > world.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The eleventh lord from arudha lagna points towards his> > > elder> > > > > > > > brother> > > > > > > > > having his demise due to the guru-chandala yoga. > Further> > > his> > > > > > demise> > > > > > > > due> > > > > > > > > to a heart attack is more evident with Mars lording > the> > > 3rd> > > > from> > > > > > > > AL -> > > > > > > > > i.e. some excess pressure in the blood, yet natural> > > causes.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I think the first drekkana of lagna is more accurate,> > > with> > > > > > Jupiter> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > eighth in Jagannath Drekkana showing the obsession > with> > > > science.> > > > > > > > The> > > > > > > > > somanath drekkana having a debilitated, yet with > neecha> > > > bhanga> > > > > > Mars> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > kendra also seems to point towards his highs and lows > in> > > his> > > > > > fame.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > This leaves us with three navamsa's, among which a > node> > > > should> > > > > > be> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > trikona to show his math and scientific abilities. > Thus> > > > Taurus> > > > > > is> > > > > > > > very> > > > > > > > > applicable with Ketu and Mars in trines.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru> > > > > > > > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark> > > > > > > > > email: visti@ <visti@ >> > > > > > > > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit:> > > > > > > > http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>>> > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>> > > > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>>>> > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>>> > > > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>>>>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal,> > > > > > > > > > yes, this is very interesting and think we should> > > stick to> > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > (number of brothers and sisters) and possible > incident.> > > > > > > > > > Researches made about Tesla and his life shortly > after> > > the> > > > > > end of> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > World War II brought out the fact of the incident > i`ve> > > > > > described> > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > > was kept as a public secret, possibly because of the> > > > family> > > > > > > > status.> > > > > > > > > > Most likely that He lost brother in Mars/Ketu dasa> > > > (Pisaca)> > > > > > (he> > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > five and a half year old then) for which Aq lagna > fits> > > > more as> > > > > > > > Ma/Kt> > > > > > > > > > aspect 3rd from A11-Dhanu. This should give death > in a> > > > distant> > > > > > > > place> > > > > > > > > > but considering that its not 3rd from AL (death of > the> > > > person> > > > > > > > itself)> > > > > > > > > > i think it gives different indications. Dhanu means> > > fall> > > > from> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > height. It`s aspected by all planets amnog which > lagna> > > > lord-> > > > > > Mars> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > Jupiter in own rasi in Chanadala yoga are strongest.> > > This> > > > > > means> > > > > > > > > > involvment of the person himself and confirms the> > > Chandala> > > > > > effect.> > > > > > > > > > if i could explain also his nature and abilities > from> > > Aq i> > > > > > would> > > > > > > > > > definetely accept it. Help?> > > > > > > > > > Warm regards,> > > > > > > > > > Tijana> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>> > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com> <sohamsa%> > > > > > 40. com>> > > > > > > > <sohamsa%> > > > > > > > 40. com>,> > > > > > > > > > Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@ >> > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna ||> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ?> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > From wiki:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Nikola was one of five children, having one > brother> > > > (Dane,> > > > > > who> > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > killed in a horse-riding accident when Nikola was> > > five)> > > > and> > > > > > three> > > > > > > > > > sisters (Milka, Angelina and Marica).[10] :3 His > family> > > > moved> > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > Gospiæ in 1862. Tesla went to school in Karlovac. He> > > > finished> > > > > > a> > > > > > > > four> > > > > > > > > > year term in the span of three years.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your reply.> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > Michal> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tijanadamjanovic <tijanadamjanovic@ >> > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>> > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com> <sohamsa%> > > > > > 40. com>> > > > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>> > > > > > > > > > > Monday, September 24, 2007 7:45:49 AM> > > > > > > > > > > Re: Extent of Nabhasa yoga 2> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I hope you will give comments on some points that > are> > > > > > coming to> > > > > > > > my> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > mind.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > For the time i used (23:33) lagna falls in the > last> > > > pada of> > > > > > > > Revati> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > nakshatra. Lagna and 10th lord-Jupiter forms> > > > > > Darmakarmaadipati> > > > > > > > yoga> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > being in mutual aspect with 9th lord-AK Mars. > Sarada> > > > yoga is> > > > > > > > formed> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > with the 5th and 4th lord (apart from studies of> > > physics> > > > > > Tesla> > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > very learned in many branches and he spoke seven> > > > languages).> > > > > > > > Lords> > > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > the 5th and 9th (both) are in 7th also cofirming> > > gyana.> > > > > > Mercury> > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Mars` (AK) nakshatra showing the nature of> > > intelligence> > > > and> > > > > > > > > > learning.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > This becomes significant considering that Mars is > AK> > > > > > vargottama,> > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > same as Ketu and Rahu. I find these planets being> > > > > > responsible> > > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > inventive mind related to electricity, its> > > transmission,> > > > > > etc.> > > > > > > > Tesla> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > also spoke about and did many researches on > nuclear> > > > energy> > > > > > but> > > > > > > > he> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > forsaw coming of the World War II... Mars and Ketu> > > are> > > > in> > > > > > > > karakamsa> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > in 7th in navamsa also producing bramacarya. > Dasamsa> > > > has the> > > > > > > > same> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > pattern-Kt, Ma, Rh in 1-7 axis with Me in lagna > and> > > Sy-> > > > AmK> > > > > > lagna> > > > > > > > > > lord> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > in 7th with the digbala from AL.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Chandala yoga is interesting and could be the> > > > explanation> > > > > > for> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > incident from childhood. Most likely that he is> > > > responsible> > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > > death> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > of his brother-while playing with brother as > child,> > > he> > > > > > > > accidently> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > pushed him from the attic that resulted in > tragedy.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Warm regards,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Tijana> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Michal Dziwulski> > > > > > > > <nearmichal@ ...>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna ||> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Guruji,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > There is also the chart of a great inventor -> > > Nicola> > > > > > Tesla -> > > > > > > > who> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > has all planets in Dual signs - Gemini, Virgo, and> > > > Pisces.> > > > > > Is> > > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Nala yoga? Results are poor physique, accumulates> > > money,> > > > > > good> > > > > > > > > > looks,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > helps relatives, and is skillful.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > He was certainly skillful, being responsible for> > > > > > virtually all> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > modern technology. However he died impoverished > and> > > was> > > > > > terrible> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > with money.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps the Serbians amongst us can throw some> > > light> > > > on> > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > chart?> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Michal> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ > _________> > > > > > _________ _> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ____________ __> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Moody friends. 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