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Namaskar Ramesh,

 

I have three cases to explain MKS grahas affecting their houses owned

 

Case 1: female with Meena(pisces) lagna having Moon in MKS. She has

suffered 1 abortion (5th house owned by moon is affected).

Additional verification is that , she has sun in 5th house(which is

said to cause abortion) along with Ketu and venus.

 

Additional notes: She has suffered sevee mental-depression due to

this reason and several additional reasons.She had considered

committing suicide even.However she had to undergo therapy and is

now fine.

 

case 2: Male with Simha(leo) lagna having jupiter in 3rd house.The

house owned by Jupiter is 5th house. He has been married for 5 years

and no success with any progeny. Interestingly all his medical

reports are fine and the problem lies with his wife. Still he

suffers... due to his Jupiter in MKS.

 

Notes: In Jupiter antardasha, he had severe stomach ailments and was

literally taking only milk, boiled rice and boiled vegetables.

 

 

case 3: Male with Meena(Pisces) lagna with Mercury in MKS in 7th

house. He lost his job in Mercury antardahsa. Interestingly his

Mercury is exalted and is also his DK. How the houses suffered is

that , eventhough he faced literal poverty, he was not affected

mentally.However, his relationship with his wife(7th house

ownership) and mother( 4th house ownership) suffered badly. His wife

almot thretaened to leave him. His mother declared him useless and

guilty of charges that were put to fire him from the job.

 

Additional notes: Mercury is with debilitated Venus and Sun in 7th

house. Also DK mercury is in 0 degree.

 

 

 

Gurujans please comment.

 

Thanks

Suchitra

 

 

 

sohamsa , " Ramesh F. Gangaramani "

<rgangaramani wrote:

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

>

>

> Dear Shri Srivastava,

>

> Thank you for asking relevant questions prompting people to share

their

> findings. Suchitra, Lakshmi and Gaurav have made interesting

contributions

> related to MKS positions of Venus and Jupiter. I am however not

sure if

> cases sighted show houses owned being affected! It will be

interesting to

> get some more feedback.

>

> I have 2 planets in MKS, Saturn and Sun. I am currently under

Saturn MD and

> some parts this MD were very difficult especially Sat-Venus and

Sat-Sun.

> Saturn is a strong malefic for Leo lagna and so is Venus. So I am

not sure

> how much of this can be attributed to MKS. Let me add that during

the period

> apart from career issues, I also had to stay away from family for

long

> durations (7H). Such separations continued beyond Sun AD, till

Rahu AD!

> Barring these forced separations, 7H affairs have been fine.

>

> I haven't experienced Sun MD, but as mentioned earlier Sat-Sun was

> challenging. Sun's MKS position is in 12H a dusthana which by

itself can be

> bad!

>

> Regards

>

> Ramesh

>

>

>

> _____

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa ] On

Behalf Of

> R.C.Srivastava

> Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:43 AM

> sohamsa

> Re: remedy for MKS planets

>

>

>

> Dear Zoran and friends,

> I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the thread

> of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.

> Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster actually

> causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events and

> creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real impact it

> has?

> Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak parijaat

> independently to assess its damage and By the way,This concept is

in

> real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file of

> astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have proved?

> I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it in

> terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge This

was

> just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer ever

> wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.

> With regards.

> OM TAT SAT.

>

> sohamsa@ <sohamsa%

40> .com, " amar "

> <ahimsa@> wrote:

> >

> > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > Dear Swati,

> > You were on a good track.

> > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house where

> Marana

> > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the greatest

> damage that

> > is done.

> > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage to a

> marriage than

> > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often misunderstood.

> > Graha in marana stana will damage>

> > 1. Bhavas ruled by it

> > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka

> > 3. Bhava where it is placed

> > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3. while

> wearing a

> > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed will

> deal only

> > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining to 1

and

> 2 are

> > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.

> > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not that

> simple when

> > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana sthana

graha

> is

> > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is necessary,

> or when

> > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain will

> come to

> > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the

> process, such

> > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence will

> surely fail in

> > such a graha,

> > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing

> partially graha

> > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.

> > Best wishes

> > Zoran

> >

> > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > www.siva-edu.com

> > jyotish blog at

> > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> >

> >

> >

> > healing spaces [healingspaces@]

> > 17. rujan 2007 5:36

> > @ <%40>

;

> ahimsa@

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

> >

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah

> > Dear Zoran,

> >

> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt Sanjayji

> sometime back

> > that i picked this thread.

> > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya

> mantras and

> > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is clearing

> the bhava

> > where MKS happens.

> > For example we do Ravi Aditya mantra and wear Venus gemstone

> which will

> > help the 7th bhava where MERCURY AND MARS ARE IN MKS. Is this

> remedy

> > sufficient to help lordships and other karaktwas of Marana

karaka

> planets

> >

> > Could you help us understand how to strengthen and remedy the

> > 1) bhavas lorded by mars and mercury in particular varga

> > 2) the bhavas which they are karak off ( 3rd and 10th )

> > 3) the chara karaka they signify

> >

> > in my understanding when i took example for virgo lagna, with

> venus MKS in

> > 6th, i realised it was the 2nd and 9th house ( by lordships )

and

> 7th house

> > ( by being its karak ) that also needs to be remedied . And here

> since

> > jupiter is karak of 2nd and 9th while being lord of 7th house ,

> that

> > JUPITER should help ?

> >

> > Swati

> > Om Shreem Mahalakshmayie namah

> >

> >

> >

> > On 7/17/07, amar <ahimsa@> wrote:

> >

> > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > Dear Ramesh,

> > I sent an emial to Sohamsa some time back, where I emphasized

> the

> > different

> > levels of MKS of planets.Which karaka you are reffering to?

> For venus it

> > is clear

> > that you are strengtning 7th house. However, for Surja in

> marana sthana

> > would you strengten

> > Shani, karak of 12th house?

> > It is often said that when Shani is in lagna, Surja should be

> > strengthened, what about other things?

> > There are at least 6 or 7 variations of MKS of planets, and

> their

> > different effects, as well as DIFFERENT

> > remedial measures for each problem

> > Bese wishes

> > Zoran

> >

> > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > www.siva-edu.com

> >

> >

> > @ <%40>

>

> > [@ <%40>

> ]On Behalf Of Ramesh F.

> Gangaramani

> > 15. rujan 2007 18:05

> > @ <%40>

 

> >

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

> >

> >

> >

> > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> >

> >

> > Dear Swati,

> >

> > You have a point. Both Swee and Zoran tend to speak in favor

> > strengthening the lords of houses that are affected. Zoran

brings

> out

> > additional dimensions too. Sanjayji however appears to emphasize

> the Karka

> > of the house causing MK. In his mail to Swee he says " He will

> still need a

> > diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house. "

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Ramesh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -------------------------

> -------

> >

> > @ <%40>

>

> > [@ <%40>

> ] On Behalf Of healing spaces

> > Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:39 AM

> > @ <%40>

 

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

> >

> >

> > Hare rama Krsna

> > Dear Rameshji,

> > Also read one more thread in this regard , where Zoranji

> also brings

> > this point to attention

> > http://groups.

<sohamsa/message/12687>

> sohamsa/message/12687

> > it was for this reason that i raised the question for the

> help needed

> > to Maranakarak planets lordships and its natural significations.

> > Swati

> >

> > On 9/15/07, healing spaces < healingspaces@> wrote:

> >

> > Hare Rama Krsna

> > Dear Rameshji,

> > this is the point i am asking ? When a planet is MKS marana

> karaka

> > sthana it is death inflicting to the same house karaktwa it is

> posted in or

> > also to the house the MK planet lords or is karak off.

> > In the first case , it shines light to that bhava , but what

> about the

> > houses it lords and is karak off . I think it is in this regard

> that

> > Sanjayji had mentioned for bhrispati or Guru mantra in the

thread

> i was

> > going through !

> >

> > http://groups.

<sohamsa/message/9099>

> sohamsa/message/9099

> > He mentions this for taurus lagna ,:- Mercury in the 7th

> house is in

> > marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is

> suffering.

> > Thanks in advance

> > swati

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On 9/15/07, Ramesh F. Gangaramani < rgangaramani@ > wrote:

> >

> > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> >

> >

> > Dear Swati,

> >

> > In Atri lectures he suggests strengthening Saturn if Sun is

> in MKS and

> > visa versa and if I got him right the recommendations were not

> lagna

> > specific.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Ramesh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -------------------------

> -------

> >

> > @ <%40>

>

> > [@ <%40>

> ] On Behalf Of healing spaces

> > Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:17 AM

> > @ <%40>

 

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

> >

> >

> > Hare Rama krsna ,

> > Dear Rafal,

> > The point here is the venus is almost dying , and thus with

> it brings

> > downfall of the houses it lords or is karak off . May be the

> ghrini beeja

> > and varuna mantra opens up the venus and enliven it in the 6th

> house. but

> > what about the houses it lords ( 2 and 9) and is the karak of 7 .

> > i remember one mail by Pt Sanjayji, where for taurus lagna,

> mercury

> > was mks in 7th . he did suggest the Bhrispati mantra for the 2nd

> and 5th

> > house ( Jupiter is karak of these houses)

> > Thanks

> > Swati

> > Om Tat sat

> >

> >

> >

> > On 9/15/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> wrote:

> >

> > hare rama krsna

> > Dear Swati , Namaskar

> >

> > When Shukra is in MKS then we need Neelam or Varuna mantra

> (which is

> > for Shani and not for Jupiter). Planet in MKS needs light and

> ghrini vija is

> > opening chakra to get that light.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > SJC Jyotish Guru;

> > email: rafal@

> > Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa. <http://rohinaa.com>

com

> >

> > Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare Rama Krsna,

> > Dear Vistiji,

> > When a planet is said to be in marana karaka sthana, it

> wields death

> > inflicting powers to houses it owns. So why do we chose to pray

> karak or

> > lords where the MKS happens and not the karak of the houses it

> owns or

> > lordships of where it is the karak of!).

> > Say for example in venus being MKS in 6th house for virgo

> lagna, it

> > is the 2nd and 9th house that are not able to deliver, so the

> karak of

> > these houses Jupiter should be strenghtened . Similarly venus is

> karak of

> > 7th house m and jupiter is lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is

> jupiter

> > that should help to strengthen and make these bhavas strong.

> > Also i would want to know how and what does the ghrini

> Surya mantra

> > activate, the planet in MKS or the bhava it lords ?

> > Swati

> > Om Tat Sat

> >

>

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Hi Suchitra,

 

Commenting on a chart just based one planet's position never

works. If someone has to make a meaningful comment on the cases

you have given, one needs full chart details. The problems that

you have indicated could have been caused otherwise also. It is

important to make sure that such problems are only due to MKS

position to arrive at proper conclusion.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- suchitra_kamath <suchitra_kamath wrote:

 

>

>

>

> Namaskar Ramesh,

>

> I have three cases to explain MKS grahas affecting their

> houses owned

>

> Case 1: female with Meena(pisces) lagna having Moon in MKS.

> She has

> suffered 1 abortion (5th house owned by moon is affected).

> Additional verification is that , she has sun in 5th

> house(which is

> said to cause abortion) along with Ketu and venus.

>

> Additional notes: She has suffered sevee mental-depression

> due to

> this reason and several additional reasons.She had considered

> committing suicide even.However she had to undergo therapy and

> is

> now fine.

>

> case 2: Male with Simha(leo) lagna having jupiter in 3rd

> house.The

> house owned by Jupiter is 5th house. He has been married for 5

> years

> and no success with any progeny. Interestingly all his medical

>

> reports are fine and the problem lies with his wife. Still he

> suffers... due to his Jupiter in MKS.

>

> Notes: In Jupiter antardasha, he had severe stomach ailments

> and was

> literally taking only milk, boiled rice and boiled vegetables.

>

>

> case 3: Male with Meena(Pisces) lagna with Mercury in MKS in

> 7th

> house. He lost his job in Mercury antardahsa. Interestingly

> his

> Mercury is exalted and is also his DK. How the houses suffered

> is

> that , eventhough he faced literal poverty, he was not

> affected

> mentally.However, his relationship with his wife(7th house

> ownership) and mother( 4th house ownership) suffered badly.

> His wife

> almot thretaened to leave him. His mother declared him useless

> and

> guilty of charges that were put to fire him from the job.

>

> Additional notes: Mercury is with debilitated Venus and Sun in

> 7th

> house. Also DK mercury is in 0 degree.

>

>

>

> Gurujans please comment.

>

> Thanks

> Suchitra

>

>

>

> sohamsa , " Ramesh F. Gangaramani "

> <rgangaramani wrote:

> >

> > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Shri Srivastava,

> >

> > Thank you for asking relevant questions prompting people to

> share

> their

> > findings. Suchitra, Lakshmi and Gaurav have made interesting

>

> contributions

> > related to MKS positions of Venus and Jupiter. I am however

> not

> sure if

> > cases sighted show houses owned being affected! It will be

> interesting to

> > get some more feedback.

> >

> > I have 2 planets in MKS, Saturn and Sun. I am currently

> under

> Saturn MD and

> > some parts this MD were very difficult especially Sat-Venus

> and

> Sat-Sun.

> > Saturn is a strong malefic for Leo lagna and so is Venus. So

> I am

> not sure

> > how much of this can be attributed to MKS. Let me add that

> during

> the period

> > apart from career issues, I also had to stay away from

> family for

> long

> > durations (7H). Such separations continued beyond Sun AD,

> till

> Rahu AD!

> > Barring these forced separations, 7H affairs have been fine.

> >

> > I haven't experienced Sun MD, but as mentioned earlier

> Sat-Sun was

> > challenging. Sun's MKS position is in 12H a dusthana which

> by

> itself can be

> > bad!

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Ramesh

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > sohamsa

> [sohamsa ] On

> Behalf Of

> > R.C.Srivastava

> > Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:43 AM

> > sohamsa

> > Re: remedy for MKS planets

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Zoran and friends,

> > I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the

> thread

> > of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.

> > Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster

> actually

> > causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events

> and

> > creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real

> impact it

> > has?

> > Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak

> parijaat

> > independently to assess its damage and By the way,This

> concept is

> in

> > real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file

> of

> > astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have

> proved?

> > I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it

> in

> > terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge

> This

> was

> > just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer

> ever

> > wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.

> > With regards.

> > OM TAT SAT.

> >

> > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%

> 40> .com, " amar "

> > <ahimsa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > > Dear Swati,

> > > You were on a good track.

> > > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house

> where

> > Marana

> > > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the

> greatest

> > damage that

> > > is done.

> > > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage

> to a

> > marriage than

> > > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often

> misunderstood.

> > > Graha in marana stana will damage>

> > > 1. Bhavas ruled by it

> > > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka

> > > 3. Bhava where it is placed

> > > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.

> while

> > wearing a

> > > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed

> will

> > deal only

> > > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining

> to 1

> and

> > 2 are

> > > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.

> > > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not

> that

> > simple when

> > > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana

> sthana

>

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