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Dear Nitash ji,

You have asked a simple question , and reply was given according to rule.

Kindly refer Sloka 22 of Laghu Parasari.

My dear friend ,never ask half baked queries that too about your own nativity.

Still you are trying to discuss on the basis of incomplete information.

I GATHER your Lagna is Capricorn with Sun in 5th and Venus and Rahu in 8th house.

1. The above rule is not applicable on Moola dasa.

2. In Vimsottari dasa , Both Sun and Moon do not harm as 8th lord , but this exchange is not good.

3 Rahu in 8th house with yoga Karka Venus and its dispositer is in Trikona house.

Rahu will give material benefits with regard 3rd,6th 10th and 11th houses as per upchaya principle ,

AND benefic results to 5th ,7th and 10th houses as per Argala principle assuming Rahu will act as Venus

This analysis is half backed as you have not given full details,

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Dear Nitish

 

Are you doing any sadhana for Sri Tara or other Maha vidya. Now in

your case you have a more macro problem than simply an exhange of the

lords. You have a kala Amrita yoga in your chart and Ju is the one

who is breaking it, So till that breaks the results are largely

modified because the nodes are dictating thier terms in all the

matters. So if you are not doing the sadhana please start it asap.

 

Incase you are doing the sadhana or some other form of Guru worship

(Well Ju in the 8th house.. you are already doing jyotisha and

studying the scriptures) then the Yoga would break and so you are

breaking it with self help(Ju is 3rd lord showing prakrama) so i am

not sure if we can give a conclusive answer from your chart

 

Regards

 

Tarun

 

sohamsa , " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya wrote:

>

> || OM TAT SAT ||

> Dear kishore,

> My details are: 12-12-1979, 10:14 am, new delhi, india.

> regards,

> nitish

>

> sohamsa , " kishore patnaik "

> <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote:

> >

> > dear nitish,

> >

> > please post ur details

> >

> > kishore patnaik

> > 98492 70729

> >

> >

> > On 11/19/07, yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya@> wrote:

> > >

> > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > Dear Goel ji,

> > > You have written: can you give me the reference of this sutra?

> > > > Any exchange with the lord of 8th house will also bring fall

from

> > > > position ,sometime in the life.

> > > I have exchange of 8th and 11th lord in my chart, with 8th lord

> > > Sun as AK. I have passed through three years of moola dasha of

Sun, as

> > > well as simultaneous Vimshottri dasha of Rahu which is placed

in 8th,

> > > but i fail to observe any kind of fall from any position or in

> > > specific situation in life. Although, i have had two promotions

in job

> > > in this period.

> > > It has certainly been a difficult period but it has marked more

> > > positive transformations and learning in my life than ever

before,

> > > except for two things, marriage got delayed, friend-circle got

> > > reduced. In turn, these events gave me more time for career and

life.

> > > Also, i had to resort to self-help in all things i do. But that

is

> > > not negative. In any case, there is nothing so negative in

ones' past

> > > karma that one cannot overcome it in the present life and there

is no

> > > greater remedy than self-help.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > nitish

> > >

> > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>,

Gopal Goel

> > > <gkgoel1937@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Gilbert,

> > > > Exchange of 5th and 8th lords are following possibilities ,

which

> > > should be considered carefully :

> > > > 1. Planet in 8th provide Argala to 5th house thus promote

children.

> > > > 2.5TH LORD is functional benefic ,as such it provide argala

to5th ,

> > > 7th and 10 houses , and promote the signification of these

houses.

> > > > 4. In case 5th lord is natural malefic and placed in 8th

house , it

> > > will promote the material signification of 3rd, 6th, 10th, and

11th

> > > houses f

> > > > the native.

> > > > 5. Please always remember , this exchange is KHAL-YOGA, AND

8TH LORD

> > > DESTROYS RAJ-YOGAS. nO REMEDY WILL WORK .

> > > > because such fall comes on account of past actions. Such

native

> > > should worship ISTA AND DHARMA-devta.

> > > > Ista devta gives strength in adversity and Dharma devta

inspire the

> > > native to do good deeds in prosperity.

> > > > These are some important aspects ,need careful consideration.

> > > Planetary Avasthas and strength should also be very repeat very

> important.

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > G.K.GOEL

> > > > Ph: 09350311433

> > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR

> > > > NEW DELHI-110 076

> > > > INDIA

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on

> > > http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-

08.html/

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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Dear Nitish

 

Your 5th lord is Ve and recieves a Rasi Dristi from the Kali Yoga

(Sa/mo) in the 9th house and hence the Kali worship that you are doing

and being in the 9th house that would help your bhagya.

 

D-60 I would not comment on lordships since the lagna is too sensitive

in that chart and no point getting there without absolutely sure lagna.

 

Now the 8th and 11th lords are in mutual quadrants in the Navamsa so

the results of the Exchange will be seen and ju Ma yoga in the 8th you

are doing a service for Sri Jagannath through jyotish.

 

Now about your work situation. Notice that your lagna lord in the D10

is debilitated and joins Ma who is exhalted. the 9th lord who sits in

the 4th house has his dispositor debilitated and is in the 7th house

(maraka) from the 10th house which is the Karya Bhava.

 

However Ma is the 9th from the 9th so your boss's Boss and he is

giving a much needed relief to your lagna lord and since he is in the

5th house from the 10th house he helped you to get power and authority

in your work. Ma pratyantar was from mar-2007 to may-2007. Do that

match the time frame. the denial could have been in the Su pratyantar

immediately before that.

 

As I mentioned before.. get the mantra for Sri Tara from a devi

-upasaka and do it everyday.. You will see major difference in your life.

 

Comments?

 

Tarun

 

sohamsa , " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya wrote:

>

> || OM TAT SAT ||

> Dear Tarun,

> Thanks for a detailed reply. Am doing japa-yoga and

> shiva/kali/ganesh are the deities whom i worship for higher

> consciousness and relieving from the sufferings of life. This has

> ensured a steady progress amidst a lot of confusion and problems.

> From a jyotish perspective, apart from the 8th-11th lord exchange, i

> have noted a few things:

> 1. In D-60, Su is 9th lord and Mars is 5th and paka lagna lord (Sg asc).

> 2. In D-9, Su is 5th lord and paka lagna lord, while Mars is lagna

> lord (Ar Asc).

> 3. In D-1, Su is in constellation of 9th lord,paka lagna lord and

> subhapati, while Mars is in constellation of yogakaraka Venus.

> 4. Su (AK) is in rajayoga with Me (PK) and Mars (PiK).

> 5. Finally, Mars is vargottama thus increasing the faith in higher

> powers and support for resolving the ground issues. In fact, my

> immediate manager had declined my promotion to Lead position, and i

> had to go to the two-level higher-ups and put up a fight of 3 months

> to get promoted and thus prove my point.

>

> regards,

> nitish

>

> sohamsa , " tarungarg " <tarungarg@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Nitish

> >

> > Are you doing any sadhana for Sri Tara or other Maha vidya. Now in

> > your case you have a more macro problem than simply an exhange of the

> > lords. You have a kala Amrita yoga in your chart and Ju is the one

> > who is breaking it, So till that breaks the results are largely

> > modified because the nodes are dictating thier terms in all the

> > matters. So if you are not doing the sadhana please start it asap.

> >

> > Incase you are doing the sadhana or some other form of Guru worship

> > (Well Ju in the 8th house.. you are already doing jyotisha and

> > studying the scriptures) then the Yoga would break and so you are

> > breaking it with self help(Ju is 3rd lord showing prakrama) so i am

> > not sure if we can give a conclusive answer from your chart

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> > sohamsa , " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya@> wrote:

> > >

> > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > Dear kishore,

> > > My details are: 12-12-1979, 10:14 am, new delhi, india.

> > > regards,

> > > nitish

> > >

> > > sohamsa , " kishore patnaik "

> > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear nitish,

> > > >

> > > > please post ur details

> > > >

> > > > kishore patnaik

> > > > 98492 70729

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On 11/19/07, yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > > > Dear Goel ji,

> > > > > You have written: can you give me the reference of this sutra?

> > > > > > Any exchange with the lord of 8th house will also bring fall

> > from

> > > > > > position ,sometime in the life.

> > > > > I have exchange of 8th and 11th lord in my chart, with 8th lord

> > > > > Sun as AK. I have passed through three years of moola dasha of

> > Sun, as

> > > > > well as simultaneous Vimshottri dasha of Rahu which is placed

> > in 8th,

> > > > > but i fail to observe any kind of fall from any position or in

> > > > > specific situation in life. Although, i have had two promotions

> > in job

> > > > > in this period.

> > > > > It has certainly been a difficult period but it has marked more

> > > > > positive transformations and learning in my life than ever

> > before,

> > > > > except for two things, marriage got delayed, friend-circle got

> > > > > reduced. In turn, these events gave me more time for career and

> > life.

> > > > > Also, i had to resort to self-help in all things i do. But that

> > is

> > > > > not negative. In any case, there is nothing so negative in

> > ones' past

> > > > > karma that one cannot overcome it in the present life and there

> > is no

> > > > > greater remedy than self-help.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > nitish

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>,

> > Gopal Goel

> > > > > <gkgoel1937@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Gilbert,

> > > > > > Exchange of 5th and 8th lords are following possibilities ,

> > which

> > > > > should be considered carefully :

> > > > > > 1. Planet in 8th provide Argala to 5th house thus promote

> > children.

> > > > > > 2.5TH LORD is functional benefic ,as such it provide argala

> > to5th ,

> > > > > 7th and 10 houses , and promote the signification of these

> > houses.

> > > > > > 4. In case 5th lord is natural malefic and placed in 8th

> > house , it

> > > > > will promote the material signification of 3rd, 6th, 10th, and

> > 11th

> > > > > houses f

> > > > > > the native.

> > > > > > 5. Please always remember , this exchange is KHAL-YOGA, AND

> > 8TH LORD

> > > > > DESTROYS RAJ-YOGAS. nO REMEDY WILL WORK .

> > > > > > because such fall comes on account of past actions. Such

> > native

> > > > > should worship ISTA AND DHARMA-devta.

> > > > > > Ista devta gives strength in adversity and Dharma devta

> > inspire the

> > > > > native to do good deeds in prosperity.

> > > > > > These are some important aspects ,need careful consideration.

> > > > > Planetary Avasthas and strength should also be very repeat very

> > > important.

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > G.K.GOEL

> > > > > > Ph: 09350311433

> > > > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR

> > > > > > NEW DELHI-110 076

> > > > > > INDIA

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on

> > > > > http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-

> > 08.html/

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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|| OM TAT SAT ||

Dear Tarun,

Let me add a few points. I worship kali as my ishta devata rather

than as a mahavidya, so it came naturally to me.

 

> As I mentioned before.. get the mantra for Sri Tara from a devi

> -upasaka and do it everyday.. You will see major difference in your

> life.

 

Are you saying this because of Ju in 7th from karakamsa and in 5th

in navamsa? I am not conversant with mahavidya sadhana, also i am

running Rahu mahadasha, so it may not be a good idea to start it

right away!

 

> in your work. Ma pratyantar was from mar-2007 to may-2007. Do that

> match the time frame. the denial could have been in the Su

> pratyantar immediately before that.

 

Venus Pratyantar -- All was well, and manager chose to work with me.

Sun Pratyantar -- Things became bad, but were not communicated.

Moon Pratyantar -- Negative feedback in appraisal by the manager.

Mars pratyantar -- Promotion was declined, and i escalated it.

Rahu pratyantar -- Promoted.

 

Sequence of events is as follows:

1. Tue, 22,Mar,07 --> Immediate Manager (Moon AK), gave a negative

feedback to the 1-level higher up (Ju-AK).

2. Tue, 22 May 2007 --> Promotions were announced excluding me.

3. 24,May,07 --> Approached my 2-level higher up (probably Ma-

AK).

4. 2,Jul,07 --> Meeting was arranged and was asked to work under

another supervisor of my choice (Saturn-AK) for a reassessment.

5. Oct-end --> Saturn AK supervisor told me that he gave as

positive feedback as he could.

6. 8,Nov,07 --> My promotion was announced by 1-level higher up

(Jupiter-AK).

 

BTW, my D-60 lagna (Sg asc.) was corrected, and communicated to me

by Sanjay in 2002.

 

regards,

nitish

 

sohamsa , " tarungarg " <tarungarg wrote:

>

> Dear Nitish

>

> Your 5th lord is Ve and recieves a Rasi Dristi from the Kali Yoga

> (Sa/mo) in the 9th house and hence the Kali worship that you are

doing

> and being in the 9th house that would help your bhagya.

>

> D-60 I would not comment on lordships since the lagna is too

sensitive

> in that chart and no point getting there without absolutely sure

lagna.

>

> Now the 8th and 11th lords are in mutual quadrants in the Navamsa so

> the results of the Exchange will be seen and ju Ma yoga in the 8th

you

> are doing a service for Sri Jagannath through jyotish.

>

> Now about your work situation. Notice that your lagna lord in the

D10

> is debilitated and joins Ma who is exhalted. the 9th lord who sits

in

> the 4th house has his dispositor debilitated and is in the 7th house

> (maraka) from the 10th house which is the Karya Bhava.

>

> However Ma is the 9th from the 9th so your boss's Boss and he is

> giving a much needed relief to your lagna lord and since he is in

the

> 5th house from the 10th house he helped you to get power and

authority

> in your work. Ma pratyantar was from mar-2007 to may-2007. Do that

> match the time frame. the denial could have been in the Su

pratyantar

> immediately before that.

>

> As I mentioned before.. get the mantra for Sri Tara from a devi

> -upasaka and do it everyday.. You will see major difference in your

life.

>

> Comments?

>

> Tarun

>

> sohamsa , " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya@> wrote:

> >

> > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > Dear Tarun,

> > Thanks for a detailed reply. Am doing japa-yoga and

> > shiva/kali/ganesh are the deities whom i worship for higher

> > consciousness and relieving from the sufferings of life. This has

> > ensured a steady progress amidst a lot of confusion and problems.

> > From a jyotish perspective, apart from the 8th-11th lord

exchange, i

> > have noted a few things:

> > 1. In D-60, Su is 9th lord and Mars is 5th and paka lagna lord

(Sg asc).

> > 2. In D-9, Su is 5th lord and paka lagna lord, while Mars is lagna

> > lord (Ar Asc).

> > 3. In D-1, Su is in constellation of 9th lord,paka lagna lord and

> > subhapati, while Mars is in constellation of yogakaraka Venus.

> > 4. Su (AK) is in rajayoga with Me (PK) and Mars (PiK).

> > 5. Finally, Mars is vargottama thus increasing the faith in higher

> > powers and support for resolving the ground issues. In fact, my

> > immediate manager had declined my promotion to Lead position, and

i

> > had to go to the two-level higher-ups and put up a fight of 3

months

> > to get promoted and thus prove my point.

> >

> > regards,

> > nitish

> >

> > sohamsa , " tarungarg " <tarungarg@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Nitish

> > >

> > > Are you doing any sadhana for Sri Tara or other Maha vidya. Now

in

> > > your case you have a more macro problem than simply an exhange

of the

> > > lords. You have a kala Amrita yoga in your chart and Ju is the

one

> > > who is breaking it, So till that breaks the results are largely

> > > modified because the nodes are dictating thier terms in all the

> > > matters. So if you are not doing the sadhana please start it

asap.

> > >

> > > Incase you are doing the sadhana or some other form of Guru

worship

> > > (Well Ju in the 8th house.. you are already doing jyotisha and

> > > studying the scriptures) then the Yoga would break and so you

are

> > > breaking it with self help(Ju is 3rd lord showing prakrama) so

i am

> > > not sure if we can give a conclusive answer from your chart

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Tarun

> > >

> > > sohamsa , " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > > Dear kishore,

> > > > My details are: 12-12-1979, 10:14 am, new delhi, india.

> > > > regards,

> > > > nitish

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa , " kishore patnaik "

> > > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > dear nitish,

> > > > >

> > > > > please post ur details

> > > > >

> > > > > kishore patnaik

> > > > > 98492 70729

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On 11/19/07, yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > > > > Dear Goel ji,

> > > > > > You have written: can you give me the reference of this

sutra?

> > > > > > > Any exchange with the lord of 8th house will also bring

fall

> > > from

> > > > > > > position ,sometime in the life.

> > > > > > I have exchange of 8th and 11th lord in my chart, with

8th lord

> > > > > > Sun as AK. I have passed through three years of moola

dasha of

> > > Sun, as

> > > > > > well as simultaneous Vimshottri dasha of Rahu which is

placed

> > > in 8th,

> > > > > > but i fail to observe any kind of fall from any position

or in

> > > > > > specific situation in life. Although, i have had two

promotions

> > > in job

> > > > > > in this period.

> > > > > > It has certainly been a difficult period but it has

marked more

> > > > > > positive transformations and learning in my life than

ever

> > > before,

> > > > > > except for two things, marriage got delayed, friend-

circle got

> > > > > > reduced. In turn, these events gave me more time for

career and

> > > life.

> > > > > > Also, i had to resort to self-help in all things i do.

But that

> > > is

> > > > > > not negative. In any case, there is nothing so negative

in

> > > ones' past

> > > > > > karma that one cannot overcome it in the present life and

there

> > > is no

> > > > > > greater remedy than self-help.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > nitish

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa

<sohamsa%40>,

> > > Gopal Goel

> > > > > > <gkgoel1937@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Gilbert,

> > > > > > > Exchange of 5th and 8th lords are following

possibilities ,

> > > which

> > > > > > should be considered carefully :

> > > > > > > 1. Planet in 8th provide Argala to 5th house thus

promote

> > > children.

> > > > > > > 2.5TH LORD is functional benefic ,as such it provide

argala

> > > to5th ,

> > > > > > 7th and 10 houses , and promote the signification of

these

> > > houses.

> > > > > > > 4. In case 5th lord is natural malefic and placed in

8th

> > > house , it

> > > > > > will promote the material signification of 3rd, 6th,

10th, and

> > > 11th

> > > > > > houses f

> > > > > > > the native.

> > > > > > > 5. Please always remember , this exchange is KHAL-YOGA,

AND

> > > 8TH LORD

> > > > > > DESTROYS RAJ-YOGAS. nO REMEDY WILL WORK .

> > > > > > > because such fall comes on account of past actions.

Such

> > > native

> > > > > > should worship ISTA AND DHARMA-devta.

> > > > > > > Ista devta gives strength in adversity and Dharma devta

> > > inspire the

> > > > > > native to do good deeds in prosperity.

> > > > > > > These are some important aspects ,need careful

consideration.

> > > > > > Planetary Avasthas and strength should also be very

repeat very

> > > > important.

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > G.K.GOEL

> > > > > > > Ph: 09350311433

> > > > > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR

> > > > > > > NEW DELHI-110 076

> > > > > > > INDIA

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on

> > > > > > http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/

tools-

> > > 08.html/

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Dear Nitish

 

I am suggesting Sri Tara worship cause cause Ju is the benefic that

joins the nodes and can break the kala Amrita Yoga. And Sri Tara is

the Maha Vidya Associated with Jupiter. Please have a listen to the

remedies lecture on Visti Ji's website.

 

Regards

 

Tarun Garg

 

sohamsa , " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya wrote:

>

> || OM TAT SAT ||

> Dear Tarun,

> Let me add a few points. I worship kali as my ishta devata rather

> than as a mahavidya, so it came naturally to me.

>

> > As I mentioned before.. get the mantra for Sri Tara from a devi

> > -upasaka and do it everyday.. You will see major difference in your

> > life.

>

> Are you saying this because of Ju in 7th from karakamsa and in 5th

> in navamsa? I am not conversant with mahavidya sadhana, also i am

> running Rahu mahadasha, so it may not be a good idea to start it

> right away!

>

> > in your work. Ma pratyantar was from mar-2007 to may-2007. Do that

> > match the time frame. the denial could have been in the Su

> > pratyantar immediately before that.

>

> Venus Pratyantar -- All was well, and manager chose to work with me.

> Sun Pratyantar -- Things became bad, but were not communicated.

> Moon Pratyantar -- Negative feedback in appraisal by the manager.

> Mars pratyantar -- Promotion was declined, and i escalated it.

> Rahu pratyantar -- Promoted.

>

> Sequence of events is as follows:

> 1. Tue, 22,Mar,07 --> Immediate Manager (Moon AK), gave a negative

> feedback to the 1-level higher up (Ju-AK).

> 2. Tue, 22 May 2007 --> Promotions were announced excluding me.

> 3. 24,May,07 --> Approached my 2-level higher up (probably Ma-

> AK).

> 4. 2,Jul,07 --> Meeting was arranged and was asked to work under

> another supervisor of my choice (Saturn-AK) for a reassessment.

> 5. Oct-end --> Saturn AK supervisor told me that he gave as

> positive feedback as he could.

> 6. 8,Nov,07 --> My promotion was announced by 1-level higher up

> (Jupiter-AK).

>

> BTW, my D-60 lagna (Sg asc.) was corrected, and communicated to me

> by Sanjay in 2002.

>

> regards,

> nitish

>

> sohamsa , " tarungarg " <tarungarg@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Nitish

> >

> > Your 5th lord is Ve and recieves a Rasi Dristi from the Kali Yoga

> > (Sa/mo) in the 9th house and hence the Kali worship that you are

> doing

> > and being in the 9th house that would help your bhagya.

> >

> > D-60 I would not comment on lordships since the lagna is too

> sensitive

> > in that chart and no point getting there without absolutely sure

> lagna.

> >

> > Now the 8th and 11th lords are in mutual quadrants in the Navamsa so

> > the results of the Exchange will be seen and ju Ma yoga in the 8th

> you

> > are doing a service for Sri Jagannath through jyotish.

> >

> > Now about your work situation. Notice that your lagna lord in the

> D10

> > is debilitated and joins Ma who is exhalted. the 9th lord who sits

> in

> > the 4th house has his dispositor debilitated and is in the 7th house

> > (maraka) from the 10th house which is the Karya Bhava.

> >

> > However Ma is the 9th from the 9th so your boss's Boss and he is

> > giving a much needed relief to your lagna lord and since he is in

> the

> > 5th house from the 10th house he helped you to get power and

> authority

> > in your work. Ma pratyantar was from mar-2007 to may-2007. Do that

> > match the time frame. the denial could have been in the Su

> pratyantar

> > immediately before that.

> >

> > As I mentioned before.. get the mantra for Sri Tara from a devi

> > -upasaka and do it everyday.. You will see major difference in your

> life.

> >

> > Comments?

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> > sohamsa , " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya@> wrote:

> > >

> > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > Dear Tarun,

> > > Thanks for a detailed reply. Am doing japa-yoga and

> > > shiva/kali/ganesh are the deities whom i worship for higher

> > > consciousness and relieving from the sufferings of life. This has

> > > ensured a steady progress amidst a lot of confusion and problems.

> > > From a jyotish perspective, apart from the 8th-11th lord

> exchange, i

> > > have noted a few things:

> > > 1. In D-60, Su is 9th lord and Mars is 5th and paka lagna lord

> (Sg asc).

> > > 2. In D-9, Su is 5th lord and paka lagna lord, while Mars is lagna

> > > lord (Ar Asc).

> > > 3. In D-1, Su is in constellation of 9th lord,paka lagna lord and

> > > subhapati, while Mars is in constellation of yogakaraka Venus.

> > > 4. Su (AK) is in rajayoga with Me (PK) and Mars (PiK).

> > > 5. Finally, Mars is vargottama thus increasing the faith in higher

> > > powers and support for resolving the ground issues. In fact, my

> > > immediate manager had declined my promotion to Lead position, and

> i

> > > had to go to the two-level higher-ups and put up a fight of 3

> months

> > > to get promoted and thus prove my point.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > nitish

> > >

> > > sohamsa , " tarungarg " <tarungarg@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Nitish

> > > >

> > > > Are you doing any sadhana for Sri Tara or other Maha vidya. Now

> in

> > > > your case you have a more macro problem than simply an exhange

> of the

> > > > lords. You have a kala Amrita yoga in your chart and Ju is the

> one

> > > > who is breaking it, So till that breaks the results are largely

> > > > modified because the nodes are dictating thier terms in all the

> > > > matters. So if you are not doing the sadhana please start it

> asap.

> > > >

> > > > Incase you are doing the sadhana or some other form of Guru

> worship

> > > > (Well Ju in the 8th house.. you are already doing jyotisha and

> > > > studying the scriptures) then the Yoga would break and so you

> are

> > > > breaking it with self help(Ju is 3rd lord showing prakrama) so

> i am

> > > > not sure if we can give a conclusive answer from your chart

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa , " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya@>

> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > > > Dear kishore,

> > > > > My details are: 12-12-1979, 10:14 am, new delhi, india.

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > nitish

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa , " kishore patnaik "

> > > > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear nitish,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > please post ur details

> > > > > >

> > > > > > kishore patnaik

> > > > > > 98492 70729

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 11/19/07, yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > > > > > Dear Goel ji,

> > > > > > > You have written: can you give me the reference of this

> sutra?

> > > > > > > > Any exchange with the lord of 8th house will also bring

> fall

> > > > from

> > > > > > > > position ,sometime in the life.

> > > > > > > I have exchange of 8th and 11th lord in my chart, with

> 8th lord

> > > > > > > Sun as AK. I have passed through three years of moola

> dasha of

> > > > Sun, as

> > > > > > > well as simultaneous Vimshottri dasha of Rahu which is

> placed

> > > > in 8th,

> > > > > > > but i fail to observe any kind of fall from any position

> or in

> > > > > > > specific situation in life. Although, i have had two

> promotions

> > > > in job

> > > > > > > in this period.

> > > > > > > It has certainly been a difficult period but it has

> marked more

> > > > > > > positive transformations and learning in my life than

> ever

> > > > before,

> > > > > > > except for two things, marriage got delayed, friend-

> circle got

> > > > > > > reduced. In turn, these events gave me more time for

> career and

> > > > life.

> > > > > > > Also, i had to resort to self-help in all things i do.

> But that

> > > > is

> > > > > > > not negative. In any case, there is nothing so negative

> in

> > > > ones' past

> > > > > > > karma that one cannot overcome it in the present life and

> there

> > > > is no

> > > > > > > greater remedy than self-help.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > nitish

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sohamsa

> <sohamsa%40>,

> > > > Gopal Goel

> > > > > > > <gkgoel1937@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Gilbert,

> > > > > > > > Exchange of 5th and 8th lords are following

> possibilities ,

> > > > which

> > > > > > > should be considered carefully :

> > > > > > > > 1. Planet in 8th provide Argala to 5th house thus

> promote

> > > > children.

> > > > > > > > 2.5TH LORD is functional benefic ,as such it provide

> argala

> > > > to5th ,

> > > > > > > 7th and 10 houses , and promote the signification of

> these

> > > > houses.

> > > > > > > > 4. In case 5th lord is natural malefic and placed in

> 8th

> > > > house , it

> > > > > > > will promote the material signification of 3rd, 6th,

> 10th, and

> > > > 11th

> > > > > > > houses f

> > > > > > > > the native.

> > > > > > > > 5. Please always remember , this exchange is KHAL-YOGA,

> AND

> > > > 8TH LORD

> > > > > > > DESTROYS RAJ-YOGAS. nO REMEDY WILL WORK .

> > > > > > > > because such fall comes on account of past actions.

> Such

> > > > native

> > > > > > > should worship ISTA AND DHARMA-devta.

> > > > > > > > Ista devta gives strength in adversity and Dharma devta

> > > > inspire the

> > > > > > > native to do good deeds in prosperity.

> > > > > > > > These are some important aspects ,need careful

> consideration.

> > > > > > > Planetary Avasthas and strength should also be very

> repeat very

> > > > > important.

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL

> > > > > > > > Ph: 09350311433

> > > > > > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR

> > > > > > > > NEW DELHI-110 076

> > > > > > > > INDIA

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on

> > > > > > > http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/

> tools-

> > > > 08.html/

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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|| OM TAT SAT ||

Dear Tarun,

Since Jupiter is along the KAY-axis, mahapadma yoga is already

there, and the KAY is supposed to break at 30. I think that

worshipping Tara is not going to break it any faster as my lagna lord

is not involved anywhere with this yoga.

 

regards,

nitish

sohamsa , " tarungarg " <tarungarg wrote:

>

> Dear Nitish

>

> I am suggesting Sri Tara worship cause cause Ju is the benefic that

> joins the nodes and can break the kala Amrita Yoga. And Sri Tara is

> the Maha Vidya Associated with Jupiter. Please have a listen to the

> remedies lecture on Visti Ji's website.

>

> Regards

>

> Tarun Garg

>

> sohamsa , " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya@> wrote:

> >

> > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > Dear Tarun,

> > Let me add a few points. I worship kali as my ishta devata

rather

> > than as a mahavidya, so it came naturally to me.

> >

> > > As I mentioned before.. get the mantra for Sri Tara from a devi

> > > -upasaka and do it everyday.. You will see major difference in

your

> > > life.

> >

> > Are you saying this because of Ju in 7th from karakamsa and in

5th

> > in navamsa? I am not conversant with mahavidya sadhana, also i am

> > running Rahu mahadasha, so it may not be a good idea to start it

> > right away!

> >

> > > in your work. Ma pratyantar was from mar-2007 to may-2007. Do

that

> > > match the time frame. the denial could have been in the Su

> > > pratyantar immediately before that.

> >

> > Venus Pratyantar -- All was well, and manager chose to work with

me.

> > Sun Pratyantar -- Things became bad, but were not communicated.

> > Moon Pratyantar -- Negative feedback in appraisal by the manager.

> > Mars pratyantar -- Promotion was declined, and i escalated it.

> > Rahu pratyantar -- Promoted.

> >

> > Sequence of events is as follows:

> > 1. Tue, 22,Mar,07 --> Immediate Manager (Moon AK), gave a

negative

> > feedback to the 1-level higher up (Ju-AK).

> > 2. Tue, 22 May 2007 --> Promotions were announced excluding me.

> > 3. 24,May,07 --> Approached my 2-level higher up (probably

Ma-

> > AK).

> > 4. 2,Jul,07 --> Meeting was arranged and was asked to work

under

> > another supervisor of my choice (Saturn-AK) for a reassessment.

> > 5. Oct-end --> Saturn AK supervisor told me that he gave as

> > positive feedback as he could.

> > 6. 8,Nov,07 --> My promotion was announced by 1-level higher

up

> > (Jupiter-AK).

> >

> > BTW, my D-60 lagna (Sg asc.) was corrected, and communicated to

me

> > by Sanjay in 2002.

> >

> > regards,

> > nitish

> >

> > sohamsa , " tarungarg " <tarungarg@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Nitish

> > >

> > > Your 5th lord is Ve and recieves a Rasi Dristi from the Kali

Yoga

> > > (Sa/mo) in the 9th house and hence the Kali worship that you

are

> > doing

> > > and being in the 9th house that would help your bhagya.

> > >

> > > D-60 I would not comment on lordships since the lagna is too

> > sensitive

> > > in that chart and no point getting there without absolutely

sure

> > lagna.

> > >

> > > Now the 8th and 11th lords are in mutual quadrants in the

Navamsa so

> > > the results of the Exchange will be seen and ju Ma yoga in the

8th

> > you

> > > are doing a service for Sri Jagannath through jyotish.

> > >

> > > Now about your work situation. Notice that your lagna lord in

the

> > D10

> > > is debilitated and joins Ma who is exhalted. the 9th lord who

sits

> > in

> > > the 4th house has his dispositor debilitated and is in the 7th

house

> > > (maraka) from the 10th house which is the Karya Bhava.

> > >

> > > However Ma is the 9th from the 9th so your boss's Boss and he is

> > > giving a much needed relief to your lagna lord and since he is

in

> > the

> > > 5th house from the 10th house he helped you to get power and

> > authority

> > > in your work. Ma pratyantar was from mar-2007 to may-2007. Do

that

> > > match the time frame. the denial could have been in the Su

> > pratyantar

> > > immediately before that.

> > >

> > > As I mentioned before.. get the mantra for Sri Tara from a devi

> > > -upasaka and do it everyday.. You will see major difference in

your

> > life.

> > >

> > > Comments?

> > >

> > > Tarun

> > >

> > > sohamsa , " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > > Thanks for a detailed reply. Am doing japa-yoga and

> > > > shiva/kali/ganesh are the deities whom i worship for higher

> > > > consciousness and relieving from the sufferings of life. This

has

> > > > ensured a steady progress amidst a lot of confusion and

problems.

> > > > From a jyotish perspective, apart from the 8th-11th lord

> > exchange, i

> > > > have noted a few things:

> > > > 1. In D-60, Su is 9th lord and Mars is 5th and paka lagna

lord

> > (Sg asc).

> > > > 2. In D-9, Su is 5th lord and paka lagna lord, while Mars is

lagna

> > > > lord (Ar Asc).

> > > > 3. In D-1, Su is in constellation of 9th lord,paka lagna lord

and

> > > > subhapati, while Mars is in constellation of yogakaraka Venus.

> > > > 4. Su (AK) is in rajayoga with Me (PK) and Mars (PiK).

> > > > 5. Finally, Mars is vargottama thus increasing the faith in

higher

> > > > powers and support for resolving the ground issues. In fact,

my

> > > > immediate manager had declined my promotion to Lead position,

and

> > i

> > > > had to go to the two-level higher-ups and put up a fight of 3

> > months

> > > > to get promoted and thus prove my point.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > nitish

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa , " tarungarg " <tarungarg@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Nitish

> > > > >

> > > > > Are you doing any sadhana for Sri Tara or other Maha vidya.

Now

> > in

> > > > > your case you have a more macro problem than simply an

exhange

> > of the

> > > > > lords. You have a kala Amrita yoga in your chart and Ju is

the

> > one

> > > > > who is breaking it, So till that breaks the results are

largely

> > > > > modified because the nodes are dictating thier terms in all

the

> > > > > matters. So if you are not doing the sadhana please start

it

> > asap.

> > > > >

> > > > > Incase you are doing the sadhana or some other form of Guru

> > worship

> > > > > (Well Ju in the 8th house.. you are already doing jyotisha

and

> > > > > studying the scriptures) then the Yoga would break and so

you

> > are

> > > > > breaking it with self help(Ju is 3rd lord showing prakrama)

so

> > i am

> > > > > not sure if we can give a conclusive answer from your chart

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Tarun

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa , " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > > > > Dear kishore,

> > > > > > My details are: 12-12-1979, 10:14 am, new delhi, india.

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > nitish

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa , " kishore patnaik "

> > > > > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear nitish,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > please post ur details

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > kishore patnaik

> > > > > > > 98492 70729

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 11/19/07, yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > > > > > > Dear Goel ji,

> > > > > > > > You have written: can you give me the reference of

this

> > sutra?

> > > > > > > > > Any exchange with the lord of 8th house will also

bring

> > fall

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > position ,sometime in the life.

> > > > > > > > I have exchange of 8th and 11th lord in my chart,

with

> > 8th lord

> > > > > > > > Sun as AK. I have passed through three years of moola

> > dasha of

> > > > > Sun, as

> > > > > > > > well as simultaneous Vimshottri dasha of Rahu which

is

> > placed

> > > > > in 8th,

> > > > > > > > but i fail to observe any kind of fall from any

position

> > or in

> > > > > > > > specific situation in life. Although, i have had two

> > promotions

> > > > > in job

> > > > > > > > in this period.

> > > > > > > > It has certainly been a difficult period but it has

> > marked more

> > > > > > > > positive transformations and learning in my life than

> > ever

> > > > > before,

> > > > > > > > except for two things, marriage got delayed, friend-

> > circle got

> > > > > > > > reduced. In turn, these events gave me more time for

> > career and

> > > > > life.

> > > > > > > > Also, i had to resort to self-help in all things i

do.

> > But that

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > > not negative. In any case, there is nothing so

negative

> > in

> > > > > ones' past

> > > > > > > > karma that one cannot overcome it in the present life

and

> > there

> > > > > is no

> > > > > > > > greater remedy than self-help.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > nitish

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sohamsa

> > <sohamsa%40>,

> > > > > Gopal Goel

> > > > > > > > <gkgoel1937@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Gilbert,

> > > > > > > > > Exchange of 5th and 8th lords are following

> > possibilities ,

> > > > > which

> > > > > > > > should be considered carefully :

> > > > > > > > > 1. Planet in 8th provide Argala to 5th house thus

> > promote

> > > > > children.

> > > > > > > > > 2.5TH LORD is functional benefic ,as such it

provide

> > argala

> > > > > to5th ,

> > > > > > > > 7th and 10 houses , and promote the signification of

> > these

> > > > > houses.

> > > > > > > > > 4. In case 5th lord is natural malefic and placed

in

> > 8th

> > > > > house , it

> > > > > > > > will promote the material signification of 3rd, 6th,

> > 10th, and

> > > > > 11th

> > > > > > > > houses f

> > > > > > > > > the native.

> > > > > > > > > 5. Please always remember , this exchange is KHAL-

YOGA,

> > AND

> > > > > 8TH LORD

> > > > > > > > DESTROYS RAJ-YOGAS. nO REMEDY WILL WORK .

> > > > > > > > > because such fall comes on account of past actions.

> > Such

> > > > > native

> > > > > > > > should worship ISTA AND DHARMA-devta.

> > > > > > > > > Ista devta gives strength in adversity and Dharma

devta

> > > > > inspire the

> > > > > > > > native to do good deeds in prosperity.

> > > > > > > > > These are some important aspects ,need careful

> > consideration.

> > > > > > > > Planetary Avasthas and strength should also be very

> > repeat very

> > > > > > important.

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL

> > > > > > > > > Ph: 09350311433

> > > > > > > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR

> > > > > > > > > NEW DELHI-110 076

> > > > > > > > > INDIA

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on

> > > > > > > > http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/

> > tools-

> > > > > 08.html/

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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hraum

namah adityaya

 

Dear Nitish,

 

Why You need

Lagna lord? You can wait till 30yrs or You can make it quicker by

Upayas (Tara worship).

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

 

 

 

yeeahoo_99 napisał(a):

 

 

 

 

|| OM TAT SAT ||

Dear Tarun,

Since Jupiter is along the KAY-axis, mahapadma yoga is already

there, and the KAY is supposed to break at 30. I think that

worshipping Tara is not going to break it any faster as my lagna lord

is not involved anywhere with this yoga.

 

regards,

nitish

 

sohamsa@

..com, "tarungarg" <tarungarg@. ..> wrote:

>

> Dear Nitish

>

> I am suggesting Sri Tara worship cause cause Ju is the benefic that

> joins the nodes and can break the kala Amrita Yoga. And Sri Tara is

> the Maha Vidya Associated with Jupiter. Please have a listen to the

> remedies lecture on Visti Ji's website.

>

> Regards

>

> Tarun Garg

>

> sohamsa@

..com, "yeeahoo_99" <nitish.arya@ > wrote:

> >

> > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > Dear Tarun,

> > Let me add a few points. I worship kali as my ishta devata

rather

> > than as a mahavidya, so it came naturally to me.

> >

> > > As I mentioned before.. get the mantra for Sri Tara from

a devi

> > > -upasaka and do it everyday.. You will see major

difference in

your

> > > life.

> >

> > Are you saying this because of Ju in 7th from karakamsa and

in

5th

> > in navamsa? I am not conversant with mahavidya sadhana, also

i am

> > running Rahu mahadasha, so it may not be a good idea to start

it

> > right away!

> >

> > > in your work. Ma pratyantar was from mar-2007 to

may-2007. Do

that

> > > match the time frame. the denial could have been in the

Su

> > > pratyantar immediately before that.

> >

> > Venus Pratyantar -- All was well, and manager chose to work

with

me.

> > Sun Pratyantar -- Things became bad, but were not

communicated.

> > Moon Pratyantar -- Negative feedback in appraisal by the

manager.

> > Mars pratyantar -- Promotion was declined, and i escalated it.

> > Rahu pratyantar -- Promoted.

> >

> > Sequence of events is as follows:

> > 1. Tue, 22,Mar,07 --> Immediate Manager (Moon AK), gave a

negative

> > feedback to the 1-level higher up (Ju-AK).

> > 2. Tue, 22 May 2007 --> Promotions were announced

excluding me.

> > 3. 24,May,07 --> Approached my 2-level higher up (probably

 

Ma-

> > AK).

> > 4. 2,Jul,07 --> Meeting was arranged and was asked to work

 

under

> > another supervisor of my choice (Saturn-AK) for a

reassessment.

> > 5. Oct-end --> Saturn AK supervisor told me that he gave

as

> > positive feedback as he could.

> > 6. 8,Nov,07 --> My promotion was announced by 1-level

higher

up

> > (Jupiter-AK) .

> >

> > BTW, my D-60 lagna (Sg asc.) was corrected, and communicated

to

me

> > by Sanjay in 2002.

> >

> > regards,

> > nitish

> >

> > sohamsa@

..com, "tarungarg" <tarungarg@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Nitish

> > >

> > > Your 5th lord is Ve and recieves a Rasi Dristi from the

Kali

Yoga

> > > (Sa/mo) in the 9th house and hence the Kali worship that

you

are

> > doing

> > > and being in the 9th house that would help your bhagya.

> > >

> > > D-60 I would not comment on lordships since the lagna is

too

> > sensitive

> > > in that chart and no point getting there without

absolutely

sure

> > lagna.

> > >

> > > Now the 8th and 11th lords are in mutual quadrants in

the

Navamsa so

> > > the results of the Exchange will be seen and ju Ma yoga

in the

8th

> > you

> > > are doing a service for Sri Jagannath through jyotish.

> > >

> > > Now about your work situation. Notice that your lagna

lord in

the

> > D10

> > > is debilitated and joins Ma who is exhalted. the 9th

lord who

sits

> > in

> > > the 4th house has his dispositor debilitated and is in

the 7th

house

> > > (maraka) from the 10th house which is the Karya Bhava.

> > >

> > > However Ma is the 9th from the 9th so your boss's Boss

and he is

> > > giving a much needed relief to your lagna lord and since

he is

in

> > the

> > > 5th house from the 10th house he helped you to get power

and

> > authority

> > > in your work. Ma pratyantar was from mar-2007 to

may-2007. Do

that

> > > match the time frame. the denial could have been in the

Su

> > pratyantar

> > > immediately before that.

> > >

> > > As I mentioned before.. get the mantra for Sri Tara from

a devi

> > > -upasaka and do it everyday.. You will see major

difference in

your

> > life.

> > >

> > > Comments?

> > >

> > > Tarun

> > >

> > > sohamsa@

..com, "yeeahoo_99" <nitish.arya@ >

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > > Thanks for a detailed reply. Am doing japa-yoga and

> > > > shiva/kali/ganesh are the deities whom i worship

for higher

> > > > consciousness and relieving from the sufferings of

life. This

has

> > > > ensured a steady progress amidst a lot of confusion

and

problems.

> > > > From a jyotish perspective, apart from the 8th-11th

lord

> > exchange, i

> > > > have noted a few things:

> > > > 1. In D-60, Su is 9th lord and Mars is 5th and paka

lagna

lord

> > (Sg asc).

> > > > 2. In D-9, Su is 5th lord and paka lagna lord,

while Mars is

lagna

> > > > lord (Ar Asc).

> > > > 3. In D-1, Su is in constellation of 9th lord,paka

lagna lord

and

> > > > subhapati, while Mars is in constellation of

yogakaraka Venus.

> > > > 4. Su (AK) is in rajayoga with Me (PK) and Mars

(PiK).

> > > > 5. Finally, Mars is vargottama thus increasing the

faith in

higher

> > > > powers and support for resolving the ground issues.

In fact,

my

> > > > immediate manager had declined my promotion to Lead

position,

and

> > i

> > > > had to go to the two-level higher-ups and put up a

fight of 3

> > months

> > > > to get promoted and thus prove my point.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > nitish

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa@

..com, "tarungarg" <tarungarg@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Nitish

> > > > >

> > > > > Are you doing any sadhana for Sri Tara or

other Maha vidya.

Now

> > in

> > > > > your case you have a more macro problem than

simply an

exhange

> > of the

> > > > > lords. You have a kala Amrita yoga in your

chart and Ju is

the

> > one

> > > > > who is breaking it, So till that breaks the

results are

largely

> > > > > modified because the nodes are dictating thier

terms in all

the

> > > > > matters. So if you are not doing the sadhana

please start

it

> > asap.

> > > > >

> > > > > Incase you are doing the sadhana or some other

form of Guru

> > worship

> > > > > (Well Ju in the 8th house.. you are already

doing jyotisha

and

> > > > > studying the scriptures) then the Yoga would

break and so

you

> > are

> > > > > breaking it with self help(Ju is 3rd lord

showing prakrama)

so

> > i am

> > > > > not sure if we can give a conclusive answer

from your chart

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Tarun

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa@ .com,

"yeeahoo_99" <nitish.arya@ >

> > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > > > > Dear kishore,

> > > > > > My details are: 12-12-1979, 10:14 am, new

delhi, india.

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > nitish

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com,

"kishore patnaik"

> > > > > > <kishorepatnaik09@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear nitish,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > please post ur details

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > kishore patnaik

> > > > > > > 98492 70729

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 11/19/07, yeeahoo_99

<nitish.arya@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > > > > > > Dear Goel ji,

> > > > > > > > You have written: can you give

me the reference of

this

> > sutra?

> > > > > > > > > Any exchange with the lord

of 8th house will also

bring

> > fall

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > position ,sometime in the

life.

> > > > > > > > I have exchange of 8th and 11th

lord in my chart,

with

> > 8th lord

> > > > > > > > Sun as AK. I have passed

through three years of moola

> > dasha of

> > > > > Sun, as

> > > > > > > > well as simultaneous Vimshottri

dasha of Rahu which

is

> > placed

> > > > > in 8th,

> > > > > > > > but i fail to observe any kind

of fall from any

position

> > or in

> > > > > > > > specific situation in life.

Although, i have had two

> > promotions

> > > > > in job

> > > > > > > > in this period.

> > > > > > > > It has certainly been a

difficult period but it has

> > marked more

> > > > > > > > positive transformations and

learning in my life than

> > ever

> > > > > before,

> > > > > > > > except for two things, marriage

got delayed, friend-

> > circle got

> > > > > > > > reduced. In turn, these events

gave me more time for

> > career and

> > > > > life.

> > > > > > > > Also, i had to resort to

self-help in all things i

do.

> > But that

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > > not negative. In any case,

there is nothing so

negative

> > in

> > > > > ones' past

> > > > > > > > karma that one cannot overcome

it in the present life

and

> > there

> > > > > is no

> > > > > > > > greater remedy than self-help.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > nitish

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > <sohamsa%40gro ups.com>,

> > > > > Gopal Goel

> > > > > > > > <gkgoel1937@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Gilbert,

> > > > > > > > > Exchange of 5th and 8th

lords are following

> > possibilities ,

> > > > > which

> > > > > > > > should be considered carefully :

> > > > > > > > > 1. Planet in 8th provide

Argala to 5th house thus

> > promote

> > > > > children.

> > > > > > > > > 2.5TH LORD is functional

benefic ,as such it

provide

> > argala

> > > > > to5th ,

> > > > > > > > 7th and 10 houses , and promote

the signification of

> > these

> > > > > houses.

> > > > > > > > > 4. In case 5th lord is

natural malefic and placed

in

> > 8th

> > > > > house , it

> > > > > > > > will promote the material

signification of 3rd, 6th,

> > 10th, and

> > > > > 11th

> > > > > > > > houses f

> > > > > > > > > the native.

> > > > > > > > > 5. Please always remember

, this exchange is KHAL-

YOGA,

> > AND

> > > > > 8TH LORD

> > > > > > > > DESTROYS RAJ-YOGAS. nO REMEDY

WILL WORK .

> > > > > > > > > because such fall comes on

account of past actions.

> > Such

> > > > > native

> > > > > > > > should worship ISTA AND

DHARMA-devta.

> > > > > > > > > Ista devta gives strength

in adversity and Dharma

devta

> > > > > inspire the

> > > > > > > > native to do good deeds in

prosperity.

> > > > > > > > > These are some important

aspects ,need careful

> > consideration.

> > > > > > > > Planetary Avasthas and strength

should also be very

> > repeat very

> > > > > > important.

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL

> > > > > > > > > Ph: 09350311433

> > > > > > > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR

> > > > > > > > > NEW DELHI-110 076

> > > > > > > > > INDIA

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom,

unlimited storage. Get it now, on

> > > > > > > > http://help.

/ l/in// mail/mail/ tools/

> > tools-

> > > > > 08.html/

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

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||Namah Shivaya||

Dear nitish,

KAY in this case will break naturally only at 42 yrs, the natural age of Rahu.( KSY does so at 45 yrs) . Why did you think it is 30?

Mahapadma yoga will manifest only with Ju breaking the KAY, which being in the 8H will be difficult, Tara mahavidya can help achieve it earlier as Rafal and Tarun have pointed out.

Ju is ' vargottama' but also under 'curse' hence this can be more difficult.

Mo in yoga with Shani in 9H may be better placed to break KAY this and hence Kali worship may be the way out.

 

 

Tarun, what do you think?

 

nitish,

How is the KAY affecting you in the 2H/8H axis?

It is said that a planet in strength in 1H/7H empowers one to help break the yoga earlier otherwise one has to wait for it to happen naturally or else it will come back later to complete the number of years left.

 

 

Best

Sharat

 

 

 

 

-

yeeahoo_99

sohamsa

Tuesday, December 11, 2007 6:44 AM

Re: Exchange of 5th and 8th lords

 

 

|| OM TAT SAT ||Dear Tarun,Since Jupiter is along the KAY-axis, mahapadma yoga is already there, and the KAY is supposed to break at 30. I think that worshipping Tara is not going to break it any faster as my lagna lord is not involved anywhere with this yoga.regards,nitishsohamsa , "tarungarg" <tarungarg wrote:>> Dear Nitish> > I am suggesting Sri Tara worship cause cause Ju is the benefic that> joins the nodes and can break the kala Amrita Yoga. And Sri Tara is> the Maha Vidya Associated with Jupiter. Please have a listen to the> remedies lecture on Visti Ji's website.> > Regards> > Tarun Garg> > sohamsa , "yeeahoo_99" <nitish.arya@> wrote:> >> > || OM TAT SAT ||> > Dear Tarun,> > Let me add a few points. I worship kali as my ishta devata rather > > than as a mahavidya, so it came naturally to me.> > > > > As I mentioned before.. get the mantra for Sri Tara from a devi> > > -upasaka and do it everyday.. You will see major difference in your > > > life.> > > > Are you saying this because of Ju in 7th from karakamsa and in 5th > > in navamsa? I am not conversant with mahavidya sadhana, also i am > > running Rahu mahadasha, so it may not be a good idea to start it > > right away!> > > > > in your work. Ma pratyantar was from mar-2007 to may-2007. Do that> > > match the time frame. the denial could have been in the Su > > > pratyantar immediately before that.> > > > Venus Pratyantar -- All was well, and manager chose to work with me.> > Sun Pratyantar -- Things became bad, but were not communicated.> > Moon Pratyantar -- Negative feedback in appraisal by the manager.> > Mars pratyantar -- Promotion was declined, and i escalated it.> > Rahu pratyantar -- Promoted.> > > > Sequence of events is as follows:> > 1. Tue, 22,Mar,07 --> Immediate Manager (Moon AK), gave a negative > > feedback to the 1-level higher up (Ju-AK).> > 2. Tue, 22 May 2007 --> Promotions were announced excluding me.> > 3. 24,May,07 --> Approached my 2-level higher up (probably Ma-> > AK).> > 4. 2,Jul,07 --> Meeting was arranged and was asked to work under > > another supervisor of my choice (Saturn-AK) for a reassessment.> > 5. Oct-end --> Saturn AK supervisor told me that he gave as > > positive feedback as he could.> > 6. 8,Nov,07 --> My promotion was announced by 1-level higher up > > (Jupiter-AK).> > > > BTW, my D-60 lagna (Sg asc.) was corrected, and communicated to me > > by Sanjay in 2002.> > > > regards,> > nitish> > > > sohamsa , "tarungarg" <tarungarg@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Nitish> > > > > > Your 5th lord is Ve and recieves a Rasi Dristi from the Kali Yoga> > > (Sa/mo) in the 9th house and hence the Kali worship that you are > > doing> > > and being in the 9th house that would help your bhagya. > > > > > > D-60 I would not comment on lordships since the lagna is too > > sensitive> > > in that chart and no point getting there without absolutely sure > > lagna.> > > > > > Now the 8th and 11th lords are in mutual quadrants in the Navamsa so> > > the results of the Exchange will be seen and ju Ma yoga in the 8th > > you> > > are doing a service for Sri Jagannath through jyotish. > > > > > > Now about your work situation. Notice that your lagna lord in the > > D10> > > is debilitated and joins Ma who is exhalted. the 9th lord who sits > > in> > > the 4th house has his dispositor debilitated and is in the 7th house> > > (maraka) from the 10th house which is the Karya Bhava. > > > > > > However Ma is the 9th from the 9th so your boss's Boss and he is> > > giving a much needed relief to your lagna lord and since he is in > > the> > > 5th house from the 10th house he helped you to get power and > > authority> > > in your work. Ma pratyantar was from mar-2007 to may-2007. Do that> > > match the time frame. the denial could have been in the Su > > pratyantar> > > immediately before that.> > > > > > As I mentioned before.. get the mantra for Sri Tara from a devi> > > -upasaka and do it everyday.. You will see major difference in your > > life.> > > > > > Comments?> > > > > > Tarun> > > > > > sohamsa , "yeeahoo_99" <nitish.arya@> wrote:> > > >> > > > || OM TAT SAT ||> > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > Thanks for a detailed reply. Am doing japa-yoga and> > > > shiva/kali/ganesh are the deities whom i worship for higher> > > > consciousness and relieving from the sufferings of life. This has> > > > ensured a steady progress amidst a lot of confusion and problems.> > > > From a jyotish perspective, apart from the 8th-11th lord > > exchange, i> > > > have noted a few things:> > > > 1. In D-60, Su is 9th lord and Mars is 5th and paka lagna lord > > (Sg asc).> > > > 2. In D-9, Su is 5th lord and paka lagna lord, while Mars is lagna> > > > lord (Ar Asc).> > > > 3. In D-1, Su is in constellation of 9th lord,paka lagna lord and> > > > subhapati, while Mars is in constellation of yogakaraka Venus.> > > > 4. Su (AK) is in rajayoga with Me (PK) and Mars (PiK).> > > > 5. Finally, Mars is vargottama thus increasing the faith in higher> > > > powers and support for resolving the ground issues. In fact, my> > > > immediate manager had declined my promotion to Lead position, and > > i> > > > had to go to the two-level higher-ups and put up a fight of 3 > > months> > > > to get promoted and thus prove my point.> > > > > > > > regards,> > > > nitish> > > > > > > > sohamsa , "tarungarg" <tarungarg@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Nitish> > > > > > > > > > Are you doing any sadhana for Sri Tara or other Maha vidya. Now > > in > > > > > your case you have a more macro problem than simply an exhange > > of the > > > > > lords. You have a kala Amrita yoga in your chart and Ju is the > > one > > > > > who is breaking it, So till that breaks the results are largely > > > > > modified because the nodes are dictating thier terms in all the > > > > > matters. So if you are not doing the sadhana please start it > > asap.> > > > > > > > > > Incase you are doing the sadhana or some other form of Guru > > worship > > > > > (Well Ju in the 8th house.. you are already doing jyotisha and > > > > > studying the scriptures) then the Yoga would break and so you > > are > > > > > breaking it with self help(Ju is 3rd lord showing prakrama) so > > i am > > > > > not sure if we can give a conclusive answer from your chart> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > Tarun> > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , "yeeahoo_99" <nitish.arya@> > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > || OM TAT SAT ||> > > > > > Dear kishore,> > > > > > My details are: 12-12-1979, 10:14 am, new delhi, india.> > > > > > regards,> > > > > > nitish> > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , "kishore patnaik"> > > > > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > dear nitish,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > please post ur details> > > > > > > > > > > > > > kishore patnaik> > > > > > > 98492 70729> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/19/07, yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > || OM TAT SAT ||> > > > > > > > Dear Goel ji,> > > > > > > > You have written: can you give me the reference of this > > sutra?> > > > > > > > > Any exchange with the lord of 8th house will also bring > > fall > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > position ,sometime in the life.> > > > > > > > I have exchange of 8th and 11th lord in my chart, with > > 8th lord> > > > > > > > Sun as AK. I have passed through three years of moola > > dasha of > > > > > Sun, as> > > > > > > > well as simultaneous Vimshottri dasha of Rahu which is > > placed > > > > > in 8th,> > > > > > > > but i fail to observe any kind of fall from any position > > or in> > > > > > > > specific situation in life. Although, i have had two > > promotions > > > > > in job> > > > > > > > in this period.> > > > > > > > It has certainly been a difficult period but it has > > marked more> > > > > > > > positive transformations and learning in my life than > > ever > > > > > before,> > > > > > > > except for two things, marriage got delayed, friend-> > circle got> > > > > > > > reduced. In turn, these events gave me more time for > > career and > > > > > life.> > > > > > > > Also, i had to resort to self-help in all things i do. > > But that > > > > > is> > > > > > > > not negative. In any case, there is nothing so negative > > in > > > > > ones' past> > > > > > > > karma that one cannot overcome it in the present life and > > there > > > > > is no> > > > > > > > greater remedy than self-help.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > nitish> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > sohamsa > > <sohamsa%40>, > > > > > Gopal Goel> > > > > > > > <gkgoel1937@> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Gilbert,> > > > > > > > > Exchange of 5th and 8th lords are following > > possibilities , > > > > > which> > > > > > > > should be considered carefully :> > > > > > > > > 1. Planet in 8th provide Argala to 5th house thus > > promote > > > > > children.> > > > > > > > > 2.5TH LORD is functional benefic ,as such it provide > > argala > > > > > to5th ,> > > > > > > > 7th and 10 houses , and promote the signification of > > these > > > > > houses.> > > > > > > > > 4. In case 5th lord is natural malefic and placed in > > 8th > > > > > house , it> > > > > > > > will promote the material signification of 3rd, 6th, > > 10th, and > > > > > 11th> > > > > > > > houses f> > > > > > > > > the native.> > > > > > > > > 5. Please always remember , this exchange is KHAL-YOGA, > > AND > > > > > 8TH LORD> > > > > > > > DESTROYS RAJ-YOGAS. nO REMEDY WILL WORK .> > > > > > > > > because such fall comes on account of past actions. > > Such > > > > > native> > > > > > > > should worship ISTA AND DHARMA-devta.> > > > > > > > > Ista devta gives strength in adversity and Dharma devta > > > > > inspire the> > > > > > > > native to do good deeds in prosperity.> > > > > > > > > These are some important aspects ,need careful > > consideration.> > > > > > > > Planetary Avasthas and strength should also be very > > repeat very> > > > > > important.> > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL> > > > > > > > > Ph: 09350311433> > > > > > > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR> > > > > > > > > NEW DELHI-110 076> > > > > > > > > INDIA> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on> > > > > > > > http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/> > tools-> > > > > 08.html/> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Hare Rama Krishna

 

Dear Sharat and Nitish

 

I agree with Sharat and as per my understanding also we can break the

yoga earlier through either Ju or Moon but it will not break

automatically unless that Ju is strenghtened. Being in Trines Moon

with Sa will give you blessings and support through good advisors and

people who will guide you.

 

Normally whenever the KSY or KAY exists the curses and all will

automatically be resolved once the Yoga is broken. Since the native

is already worshipping Sri Kali I believe that he can continue this.

Doing a 40 days Sadhana when Su transits Leo for Sri Tara will not

harm the native anyways and ensure that the Yoga will be broken. That

sadhana will take care of the karmik debt that the native has being

the 8th house and the kali worship will give the right guidence.

Since they are 2 roopas of the same shakti i dont see a harm in doing

both....

 

Experts can comment please

 

Regards

 

Tarun

 

 

 

sohamsa , " Sharat " <gidoc wrote:

>

> ||Namah Shivaya||

> Dear nitish,

> KAY in this case will break naturally only at 42 yrs, the natural

age of Rahu.( KSY does so at 45 yrs) . Why did you think it is 30?

> Mahapadma yoga will manifest only with Ju breaking the KAY, which

being in the 8H will be difficult, Tara mahavidya can help achieve it

earlier as Rafal and Tarun have pointed out.

> Ju is ' vargottama' but also under 'curse' hence this can be more

difficult.

> Mo in yoga with Shani in 9H may be better placed to break KAY this

and hence Kali worship may be the way out.

>

> Tarun, what do you think?

>

> nitish,

> How is the KAY affecting you in the 2H/8H axis?

> It is said that a planet in strength in 1H/7H empowers one to help

break the yoga earlier otherwise one has to wait for it to happen

naturally or else it will come back later to complete the number of

years left.

>

>

> Best

> Sharat

>

>

>

> -

> yeeahoo_99

> sohamsa

> Tuesday, December 11, 2007 6:44 AM

> Re: Exchange of 5th and 8th lords

>

>

> || OM TAT SAT ||

> Dear Tarun,

> Since Jupiter is along the KAY-axis, mahapadma yoga is already

> there, and the KAY is supposed to break at 30. I think that

> worshipping Tara is not going to break it any faster as my lagna

lord

> is not involved anywhere with this yoga.

>

> regards,

> nitish

>

> sohamsa , " tarungarg " <tarungarg@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Nitish

> >

> > I am suggesting Sri Tara worship cause cause Ju is the benefic

that

> > joins the nodes and can break the kala Amrita Yoga. And Sri

Tara is

> > the Maha Vidya Associated with Jupiter. Please have a listen to

the

> > remedies lecture on Visti Ji's website.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Tarun Garg

> >

> > sohamsa , " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > Dear Tarun,

> > > Let me add a few points. I worship kali as my ishta devata

> rather

> > > than as a mahavidya, so it came naturally to me.

> > >

> > > > As I mentioned before.. get the mantra for Sri Tara from a

devi

> > > > -upasaka and do it everyday.. You will see major difference

in

> your

> > > > life.

> > >

> > > Are you saying this because of Ju in 7th from karakamsa and

in

> 5th

> > > in navamsa? I am not conversant with mahavidya sadhana, also

i am

> > > running Rahu mahadasha, so it may not be a good idea to start

it

> > > right away!

> > >

> > > > in your work. Ma pratyantar was from mar-2007 to may-2007.

Do

> that

> > > > match the time frame. the denial could have been in the Su

> > > > pratyantar immediately before that.

> > >

> > > Venus Pratyantar -- All was well, and manager chose to work

with

> me.

> > > Sun Pratyantar -- Things became bad, but were not

communicated.

> > > Moon Pratyantar -- Negative feedback in appraisal by the

manager.

> > > Mars pratyantar -- Promotion was declined, and i escalated it.

> > > Rahu pratyantar -- Promoted.

> > >

> > > Sequence of events is as follows:

> > > 1. Tue, 22,Mar,07 --> Immediate Manager (Moon AK), gave a

> negative

> > > feedback to the 1-level higher up (Ju-AK).

> > > 2. Tue, 22 May 2007 --> Promotions were announced excluding

me.

> > > 3. 24,May,07 --> Approached my 2-level higher up (probably

> Ma-

> > > AK).

> > > 4. 2,Jul,07 --> Meeting was arranged and was asked to work

> under

> > > another supervisor of my choice (Saturn-AK) for a

reassessment.

> > > 5. Oct-end --> Saturn AK supervisor told me that he gave as

> > > positive feedback as he could.

> > > 6. 8,Nov,07 --> My promotion was announced by 1-level higher

> up

> > > (Jupiter-AK).

> > >

> > > BTW, my D-60 lagna (Sg asc.) was corrected, and communicated

to

> me

> > > by Sanjay in 2002.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > nitish

> > >

> > > sohamsa , " tarungarg " <tarungarg@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Nitish

> > > >

> > > > Your 5th lord is Ve and recieves a Rasi Dristi from the

Kali

> Yoga

> > > > (Sa/mo) in the 9th house and hence the Kali worship that

you

> are

> > > doing

> > > > and being in the 9th house that would help your bhagya.

> > > >

> > > > D-60 I would not comment on lordships since the lagna is

too

> > > sensitive

> > > > in that chart and no point getting there without absolutely

> sure

> > > lagna.

> > > >

> > > > Now the 8th and 11th lords are in mutual quadrants in the

> Navamsa so

> > > > the results of the Exchange will be seen and ju Ma yoga in

the

> 8th

> > > you

> > > > are doing a service for Sri Jagannath through jyotish.

> > > >

> > > > Now about your work situation. Notice that your lagna lord

in

> the

> > > D10

> > > > is debilitated and joins Ma who is exhalted. the 9th lord

who

> sits

> > > in

> > > > the 4th house has his dispositor debilitated and is in the

7th

> house

> > > > (maraka) from the 10th house which is the Karya Bhava.

> > > >

> > > > However Ma is the 9th from the 9th so your boss's Boss and

he is

> > > > giving a much needed relief to your lagna lord and since he

is

> in

> > > the

> > > > 5th house from the 10th house he helped you to get power

and

> > > authority

> > > > in your work. Ma pratyantar was from mar-2007 to may-2007.

Do

> that

> > > > match the time frame. the denial could have been in the Su

> > > pratyantar

> > > > immediately before that.

> > > >

> > > > As I mentioned before.. get the mantra for Sri Tara from a

devi

> > > > -upasaka and do it everyday.. You will see major difference

in

> your

> > > life.

> > > >

> > > > Comments?

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa , " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya@>

> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > > > Thanks for a detailed reply. Am doing japa-yoga and

> > > > > shiva/kali/ganesh are the deities whom i worship for

higher

> > > > > consciousness and relieving from the sufferings of life.

This

> has

> > > > > ensured a steady progress amidst a lot of confusion and

> problems.

> > > > > From a jyotish perspective, apart from the 8th-11th lord

> > > exchange, i

> > > > > have noted a few things:

> > > > > 1. In D-60, Su is 9th lord and Mars is 5th and paka lagna

> lord

> > > (Sg asc).

> > > > > 2. In D-9, Su is 5th lord and paka lagna lord, while Mars

is

> lagna

> > > > > lord (Ar Asc).

> > > > > 3. In D-1, Su is in constellation of 9th lord,paka lagna

lord

> and

> > > > > subhapati, while Mars is in constellation of yogakaraka

Venus.

> > > > > 4. Su (AK) is in rajayoga with Me (PK) and Mars (PiK).

> > > > > 5. Finally, Mars is vargottama thus increasing the faith

in

> higher

> > > > > powers and support for resolving the ground issues. In

fact,

> my

> > > > > immediate manager had declined my promotion to Lead

position,

> and

> > > i

> > > > > had to go to the two-level higher-ups and put up a fight

of 3

> > > months

> > > > > to get promoted and thus prove my point.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > nitish

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa , " tarungarg " <tarungarg@>

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Nitish

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Are you doing any sadhana for Sri Tara or other Maha

vidya.

> Now

> > > in

> > > > > > your case you have a more macro problem than simply an

> exhange

> > > of the

> > > > > > lords. You have a kala Amrita yoga in your chart and Ju

is

> the

> > > one

> > > > > > who is breaking it, So till that breaks the results are

> largely

> > > > > > modified because the nodes are dictating thier terms in

all

> the

> > > > > > matters. So if you are not doing the sadhana please

start

> it

> > > asap.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Incase you are doing the sadhana or some other form of

Guru

> > > worship

> > > > > > (Well Ju in the 8th house.. you are already doing

jyotisha

> and

> > > > > > studying the scriptures) then the Yoga would break and

so

> you

> > > are

> > > > > > breaking it with self help(Ju is 3rd lord showing

prakrama)

> so

> > > i am

> > > > > > not sure if we can give a conclusive answer from your

chart

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tarun

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa , " yeeahoo_99 "

<nitish.arya@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > > > > > Dear kishore,

> > > > > > > My details are: 12-12-1979, 10:14 am, new delhi,

india.

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > nitish

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sohamsa , " kishore patnaik "

> > > > > > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dear nitish,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > please post ur details

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > kishore patnaik

> > > > > > > > 98492 70729

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On 11/19/07, yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > > > > > > > > Dear Goel ji,

> > > > > > > > > You have written: can you give me the reference

of

> this

> > > sutra?

> > > > > > > > > > Any exchange with the lord of 8th house will

also

> bring

> > > fall

> > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > position ,sometime in the life.

> > > > > > > > > I have exchange of 8th and 11th lord in my chart,

> with

> > > 8th lord

> > > > > > > > > Sun as AK. I have passed through three years of

moola

> > > dasha of

> > > > > > Sun, as

> > > > > > > > > well as simultaneous Vimshottri dasha of Rahu

which

> is

> > > placed

> > > > > > in 8th,

> > > > > > > > > but i fail to observe any kind of fall from any

> position

> > > or in

> > > > > > > > > specific situation in life. Although, i have had

two

> > > promotions

> > > > > > in job

> > > > > > > > > in this period.

> > > > > > > > > It has certainly been a difficult period but it

has

> > > marked more

> > > > > > > > > positive transformations and learning in my life

than

> > > ever

> > > > > > before,

> > > > > > > > > except for two things, marriage got delayed,

friend-

> > > circle got

> > > > > > > > > reduced. In turn, these events gave me more time

for

> > > career and

> > > > > > life.

> > > > > > > > > Also, i had to resort to self-help in all things

i

> do.

> > > But that

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > not negative. In any case, there is nothing so

> negative

> > > in

> > > > > > ones' past

> > > > > > > > > karma that one cannot overcome it in the present

life

> and

> > > there

> > > > > > is no

> > > > > > > > > greater remedy than self-help.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > nitish

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > sohamsa

> > > <sohamsa%40>,

> > > > > > Gopal Goel

> > > > > > > > > <gkgoel1937@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Gilbert,

> > > > > > > > > > Exchange of 5th and 8th lords are following

> > > possibilities ,

> > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > should be considered carefully :

> > > > > > > > > > 1. Planet in 8th provide Argala to 5th house

thus

> > > promote

> > > > > > children.

> > > > > > > > > > 2.5TH LORD is functional benefic ,as such it

> provide

> > > argala

> > > > > > to5th ,

> > > > > > > > > 7th and 10 houses , and promote the signification

of

> > > these

> > > > > > houses.

> > > > > > > > > > 4. In case 5th lord is natural malefic and

placed

> in

> > > 8th

> > > > > > house , it

> > > > > > > > > will promote the material signification of 3rd,

6th,

> > > 10th, and

> > > > > > 11th

> > > > > > > > > houses f

> > > > > > > > > > the native.

> > > > > > > > > > 5. Please always remember , this exchange is

KHAL-

> YOGA,

> > > AND

> > > > > > 8TH LORD

> > > > > > > > > DESTROYS RAJ-YOGAS. nO REMEDY WILL WORK .

> > > > > > > > > > because such fall comes on account of past

actions.

> > > Such

> > > > > > native

> > > > > > > > > should worship ISTA AND DHARMA-devta.

> > > > > > > > > > Ista devta gives strength in adversity and

Dharma

> devta

> > > > > > inspire the

> > > > > > > > > native to do good deeds in prosperity.

> > > > > > > > > > These are some important aspects ,need careful

> > > consideration.

> > > > > > > > > Planetary Avasthas and strength should also be

very

> > > repeat very

> > > > > > > important.

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL

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