Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Dear Mr. Patnaik, I absolutely agree with you , but if a question is raised about the exchange of 5HL and 8HL with out giving any other information , THE FIRST REACTION IA THAT THIS IS A KHAL YOGA TO BEGIN WITH. In your example , Saturn is in ARIES , being 6HL in 8H IN DEBILITY , WILL GENERATE vipreet raj yoga but will be bad for health and children. 8HL in 5H in exaltation may bring the downfall of native some time in life. However as you have mentioned , Exchange generate powerful cross currents in the nativity and need to be evaluated on the basis of analysis of nativity in totality. As an example, I mention two cases, 1. Shri N. D. Tiwari -presently Governor of Andhara Pradesh - He has Virgo Lagna - lords of 6H Saturn , 8H Mars and 12H Sun , all three are in debility in navamsa chart. This has generated Raj Yoga par-excellent, but he had no children. 2. Few days back some one came to consult me and was having a strong nativity, but all the three TKIK lords were in exaltation in Navamca charts, this has eclipsed all other good yogas, Khal Yogas do have their implications in native's life. I do not contradict any persons view , but no doubt each yoga has his implications. Best regards, G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 Sent: Sunday, 13 January, 2008 4:22:23 PM Re: Parivartan_Yogas Dear Members, Just a few words on Mr. Kishore Patnaik, who is a Hyderabad based professional astrologer, with some delicate predictions to his credit...... I know him personally and is well read subject of Sanskrit. He has been practising for many years now..... He has good educational background and currently works in Hyderabad holding a responsible position and a respectable figure in his office domain. Astrology is a hobby for him, he was in VA forums for long & was also involved in free readings.... .but now stopped it for obvious "email box" issues. He speaks from scriptures & experience.. ...."like our own Mr. Sunil Nair.....both have similar traits.....heavy weight personalities. ..." { humor} Mr. Kishore Patnaik is long married to astrology for many years now......i.e He is a still a bachelor.... .He has many ideas of starting some astrology teaching sessions there in his region....for currently there are NONE at present..... Just sharing few things that I know about him......so that may help members in their selection of postings to be read.... With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas ancient_indian_ astrology, "kishore patnaik" <kishorepatnaik09@ ...> wrote: Dear srinivas, We have discussed sometime ago on the exchange of 5th and 8th Lords. My views are reproduced here: Dear Goel, It is very easy to dismiss the exchange as khal yoga and hence, conclude that it is very bad. However, there are certainly few cases where these exchanges can prove to begood too. For eg., in cases of charts where the native is subject to continuous bad health, this is a very yoga to take place. Even though the native suffers from bad health, we can with certain say that he would recover, if not to total normalcy at least he would be out of danger. Secondly, often we can predict that the person could be having legacy from mother's side- mostly money earned by her. Finally, any parivartana gives strength to the planets and we can talk only in the light of what could be the planets like.. For eg., for virgo lagna, mars in 5th is in exaltation and Saturn in 8th attains debilitation- ie to say, per se a bad planet is strong (8L) and a good planet (5L) is very weak and both are under each other's influence. However, because of parivartna, the ultimate result is 5l is in 5th and 8th lord is in 8th and whatz more, their mutual influence is also heavily minimized, thus doing things better Hope you will agree with me, regards, Kishore patnaik 98492 70729 Share files, take polls, and discuss your passions - all under one roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 I have seen a chart *not in its entirety* but to the extent of exchange. The Aries Lagna is occupied by Sun and Mercury, with Mars in Gemini. Jupiter is in Leo.The native is self assertive, since Arudha lagna falls in Leo, with its Lord being very strong. Even as with Jupiter in it, people see him as a fair minded and soft person but he never lost a heated argument. That sixth Lord being in the lagna, his main support is his servants. regards, kishore patnaik On Jan 13, 2008 3:32 PM, kishore patnaik < kishorepatnaik09 wrote:Dear Goel, I am not saying that it is NOT bad. But we should not dismiss it in its entirety. ie there are few, if at all, good by products of this yoga. regards, Kishore patnaik On Jan 13, 2008 3:06 PM, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: Dear Mr. Patnaik, I absolutely agree with you , but if a question is raised about the exchange of 5HL and 8HL with out giving any other information , THE FIRST REACTION IA THAT THIS IS A KHAL YOGA TO BEGIN WITH. In your example , Saturn is in ARIES , being 6HL in 8H IN DEBILITY , WILL GENERATE vipreet raj yoga but will be bad for health and children. 8HL in 5H in exaltation may bring the downfall of native some time in life. However as you have mentioned , Exchange generate powerful cross currents in the nativity and need to be evaluated on the basis of analysis of nativity in totality. As an example, I mention two cases, 1. Shri N. D. Tiwari -presently Governor of Andhara Pradesh - He has Virgo Lagna - lords of 6H Saturn , 8H Mars and 12H Sun , all three are in debility in navamsa chart. This has generated Raj Yoga par-excellent, but he had no children. 2. Few days back some one came to consult me and was having a strong nativity, but all the three TKIK lords were in exaltation in Navamca charts, this has eclipsed all other good yogas, Khal Yogas do have their implications in native's life. I do not contradict any persons view , but no doubt each yoga has his implications. Best regards, G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA sreeram srinivas < sreeram64 Sent: Sunday, 13 January, 2008 4:22:23 PM Re: Parivartan_Yogas Dear Members, Just a few words on Mr. Kishore Patnaik, who is a Hyderabad based professional astrologer, with some delicate predictions to his credit...... I know him personally and is well read subject of Sanskrit. He has been practising for many years now..... He has good educational background and currently works in Hyderabad holding a responsible position and a respectable figure in his office domain. Astrology is a hobby for him, he was in VA forums for long & was also involved in free readings.... .but now stopped it for obvious " email box " issues. He speaks from scriptures & experience.. .... " like our own Mr. Sunil Nair.....both have similar traits.....heavy weight personalities. ... " { humor} Mr. Kishore Patnaik is long married to astrology for many years now......i.e He is a still a bachelor.... .He has many ideas of starting some astrology teaching sessions there in his region....for currently there are NONE at present..... Just sharing few things that I know about him......so that may help members in their selection of postings to be read.... With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas ancient_indian_ astrology, " kishore patnaik " <kishorepatnaik09@ ...> wrote: Dear srinivas, We have discussed sometime ago on the exchange of 5th and 8th Lords. My views are reproduced here: Dear Goel, It is very easy to dismiss the exchange as khal yoga and hence, conclude that it is very bad. However, there are certainly few cases where these exchanges can prove to be good too. For eg., in cases of charts where the native is subject to continuous bad health, this is a very yoga to take place. Even though the native suffers from bad health, we can with certain say that he would recover, if not to total normalcy at least he would be out of danger. Secondly, often we can predict that the person could be having legacy from mother's side- mostly money earned by her. Finally, any parivartana gives strength to the planets and we can talk only in the light of what could be the planets like.. For eg., for virgo lagna, mars in 5th is in exaltation and Saturn in 8th attains debilitation- ie to say, per se a bad planet is strong (8L) and a good planet (5L) is very weak and both are under each other's influence. However, because of parivartna, the ultimate result is 5l is in 5th and 8th lord is in 8th and whatz more, their mutual influence is also heavily minimized, thus doing things better Hope you will agree with me, regards, Kishore patnaik 98492 70729 Share files, take polls, and discuss your passions - all under one roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 sir, Pranams! Even I have a Khala yoga ( Exchange 1st and 3rd lords) Please look into it and decide as to which part I will suffer etc. Born 26-10-1953 Time 4 04 am Place Mangalore I have suffered lots in career . Shahil --- kishore patnaik <kishorepatnaik09 wrote: > I have seen a chart *not in its entirety* but to the > extent of exchange. > > The Aries Lagna is occupied by Sun and Mercury, > with Mars in Gemini. > Jupiter is in Leo. > > The native is self assertive, since Arudha lagna > falls in Leo, with its Lord > being very strong. Even as with Jupiter in it, > people see him as a fair > minded and soft person but he never lost a heated > argument. > > That sixth Lord being in the lagna, his main support > is his servants. > > > > regards, > > kishore patnaik > > On Jan 13, 2008 3:32 PM, kishore patnaik > <kishorepatnaik09 wrote: > > > Dear Goel, > > > > I am not saying that it is NOT bad. But we should > not dismiss it in its > > entirety. ie there are few, if at all, good by > products of this yoga. > > > > regards, > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > On Jan 13, 2008 3:06 PM, Gopal Goel > <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > > > > Dear Mr. Patnaik, > > > > > > I absolutely agree with you , but if a question > is raised about the > > > exchange of 5HL and 8HL with out giving any > other information , THE FIRST > > > REACTION IA THAT THIS IS A KHAL YOGA TO BEGIN > WITH. > > > > > > In your example , Saturn is in ARIES , being 6HL > in 8H IN DEBILITY , > > > WILL GENERATE vipreet raj yoga but will be bad > for health and children. > > > > > > 8HL in 5H in exaltation may bring the downfall > of native some time in > > > life. However as you have mentioned , Exchange > generate powerful cross > > > currents in the nativity > > > > > > and need to be evaluated on the basis of > analysis of nativity in > > > totality. As an example, I mention two cases, > > > > > > 1. Shri N. D. Tiwari -presently Governor of > Andhara Pradesh - He has > > > Virgo Lagna - lords of 6H Saturn , 8H Mars and > 12H Sun , all three are in > > > debility in navamsa chart. > > > > > > This has generated Raj Yoga par-excellent, but > he had no children. > > > > > > 2. Few days back some one came to consult me and > was having a strong > > > nativity, but all the three TKIK lords were in > exaltation in Navamca charts, > > > > > > this has eclipsed all other good yogas, > > > > > > Khal Yogas do have their implications in > native's life. > > > > > > I do not contradict any persons view , but no > doubt each yoga has his > > > implications. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > sreeram srinivas < sreeram64 > > > > > > Sunday, 13 January, 2008 4:22:23 PM > > > Re: > Parivartan_Yogas > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > Just a few words on Mr. Kishore Patnaik, who is > a Hyderabad based > > > professional astrologer, with some delicate > predictions to his credit...... > > > I know him personally and is well read subject > of Sanskrit. He has been > > > practising for many years now..... He has good > educational background and > > > currently works in Hyderabad holding a > responsible position and a > > > respectable figure in his office domain. > Astrology is a hobby for him, he > > > was in VA forums for long & was also involved in > free readings.... .but now > > > stopped it for obvious " email box " issues. He > speaks from scriptures > > > & experience.. .... " like our own Mr. Sunil > Nair.....both have similar > > > traits.....heavy weight personalities. ... " { > humor} > > > > > > Mr. Kishore Patnaik is long married to astrology > for many years > > > now......i.e He is a still a bachelor.... .He > has many ideas of starting > > > some astrology teaching sessions there in his > region....for currently there > > > are NONE at present..... > > > > > > Just sharing few things that I know about > him......so that may help > > > members in their selection of postings to be > read.... > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > com, " kishore patnaik " > > > <kishorepatnaik09@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear srinivas, > > > > > > We have discussed sometime ago on the exchange > of 5th and 8th Lords. My > > > views are reproduced here: > > > > > > Dear Goel, > > > > > > It is very easy to dismiss the exchange as khal > yoga and hence, conclude > > > that it is very bad. > > > > > > However, there are certainly few cases where > these exchanges can prove > > > to be > > > good too. > > > > > > For eg., in cases of charts where the native is > subject to continuous > > > bad > > > health, this is a very yoga to take place. Even > though the native > > > suffers > > > from bad health, we can with certain say that > he would recover, if not > > > to > > > total normalcy at least he would be out of > danger. > > > > > > Secondly, often we can predict that the person > could be having legacy > > > from > > > mother's side- mostly money earned by her. > > > > > > Finally, any parivartana gives strength to the > planets and we can talk > > > only > > > in the light of what could be the planets > like.. For eg., for virgo > > > lagna, > > > mars in 5th is in exaltation and Saturn in 8th > attains debilitation- ie > > > to > > > say, per se a bad planet is strong (8L) and a > good planet (5L) is very > > > weak > > > and both are under each other's influence. > However, because of > > > parivartna, > > > the ultimate result is 5l is in 5th and 8th > lord is in 8th and whatz > > > more, > > > their mutual influence is also heavily > minimized, === message truncated === Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. Go to http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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