Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Dear Jyotishi Should I say happy Lorrie or sad Lorrie?? I am lost. Here is my dilemma. Delhi is truly in the dark ages. One Sardarji seems to have made a panchang that tells today is makar sankranti and everyone is celebrating the festival Lori. For heavens sake, we give a free software and there are many others available that can tell, whatever calculations they do, unless they are completely off, tomorrow is the sankranti. If Sankranti at night is to be treated as *next day* for festival then 15 Jan should be the festival instead of 14 Jan. But 13 Jan is stupid. Someone says that it is the end of Winter, so it is 13 jan which is the day before Makar Sankranti. But since when did India start celebrating the end of something? We always celebrate beginings, like the begining of a new year, the birth of a child showing the beginning of life, the upanayana showing the beginning of a spiritual life or the begining of married life. Can someone elighten me more about this festival called Lorri (spelt like Lorry or written like Lodi) Should we not celebrate maker Sankranti instead as the awakening of the Gods? Thank you for your enlightening answers in advance. Best Regards Sanjay Rath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Sanjay ji, One highly appreciates your postings always but it does seem a bit harsh to call Lohri as ' lorry'. I dont celebrate Lohri but having earlier lived in Delhi for many years I have witnessed this very friendly gathering of people of all walks of life and culture. One doesnt really know how Lohri has got its name, there are several stories, some being as follows: 1. From Sant Kabir's wife Loi 2. From' loha' ( iron) 3. Eating 'Til' and 'rohri' on this day, which makes it ' tilrohri' which perhaps became ' lohri' Anyway, Lohri, is traditionally celebrated one day before ' makar sankranti' and not on that day, thus its date of 13 th January, for ' sankranti ' falls on night of 14 Januray as you pointed out. Makar sankranti has Sri Krishna 's blessings and perhaps the festivities of Lohri are meant welcome the coming of this auspicious day. Does this make sense? Best wishes Sharat Misra - Sanjay Rath Sohamsa Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:42 PM Lorrie Festival Dear Jyotishi Should I say happy Lorrie or sad Lorrie?? I am lost. Here is my dilemma. Delhi is truly in the dark ages. One Sardarji seems to have made a panchang that tells today is makar sankranti and everyone is celebrating the festival Lori. For heavens sake, we give a free software and there are many others available that can tell, whatever calculations they do, unless they are completely off, tomorrow is the sankranti. If Sankranti at night is to be treated as *next day* for festival then 15 Jan should be the festival instead of 14 Jan. But 13 Jan is stupid. Someone says that it is the end of Winter, so it is 13 jan which is the day before Makar Sankranti. But since when did India start celebrating the end of something? We always celebrate beginings, like the begining of a new year, the birth of a child showing the beginning of life, the upanayana showing the beginning of a spiritual life or the begining of married life. Can someone elighten me more about this festival called Lorri (spelt like Lorry or written like Lodi) Should we not celebrate maker Sankranti instead as the awakening of the Gods? Thank you for your enlightening answers in advance. Best Regards Sanjay Rath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Sir, Namaste Lori is a festival of Punjab. It is celebrated when the fields are full with the crop. It is a celebration of prosperity. If Lori had anything to do with Makar Sankranti, then why would Makar Sankranti be celebrated as a separate festival in Punjab? With Regards, Divya Happy Lori. Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath wrote: Dear Jyotishi Should I say happy Lorrie or sad Lorrie?? I am lost. Here is my dilemma. Delhi is truly in the dark ages. One Sardarji seems to have made a panchang that tells today is makar sankranti and everyone is celebrating the festival Lori. For heavens sake, we give a free software and there are many others available that can tell, whatever calculations they do, unless they are completely off, tomorrow is the sankranti. If Sankranti at night is to be treated as *next day* for festival then 15 Jan should be the festival instead of 14 Jan. But 13 Jan is stupid. Someone says that it is the end of Winter, so it is 13 jan which is the day before Makar Sankranti. But since when did India start celebrating the end of something? We always celebrate beginings, like the begining of a new year, the birth of a child showing the beginning of life, the upanayana showing the beginning of a spiritual life or the begining of married life. Can someone elighten me more about this festival called Lorri (spelt like Lorry or written like Lodi) Should we not celebrate maker Sankranti instead as the awakening of the Gods? Thank you for your enlightening answers in advance. Best Regards Sanjay Rath Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Click here to know how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Namaste SanjayjiLohri Festival has nothing to do with Sankranti. Lohri is celebrated to mark the end of winter by lighting bonfires, dancing around it and having good food. This is essentially a North Indian festival and mainly celebrated in Punjab and by Punjabis. The additions in family through birth or marriage is celebrated with even more vigor. Why should this be confused with Sankranti by anyone?Thanks and RegardsBharatOn Jan 13, 2008 9:12 PM, Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath > wrote: Dear Jyotishi Should I say happy Lorrie or sad Lorrie?? I am lost. Here is my dilemma. Delhi is truly in the dark ages. One Sardarji seems to have made a panchang that tells today is makar sankranti and everyone is celebrating the festival Lori. For heavens sake, we give a free software and there are many others available that can tell, whatever calculations they do, unless they are completely off, tomorrow is the sankranti. If Sankranti at night is to be treated as *next day* for festival then 15 Jan should be the festival instead of 14 Jan. But 13 Jan is stupid. Someone says that it is the end of Winter, so it is 13 jan which is the day before Makar Sankranti. But since when did India start celebrating the end of something? We always celebrate beginings, like the begining of a new year, the birth of a child showing the beginning of life, the upanayana showing the beginning of a spiritual life or the begining of married life. Can someone elighten me more about this festival called Lorri (spelt like Lorry or written like Lodi) Should we not celebrate maker Sankranti instead as the awakening of the Gods? Thank you for your enlightening answers in advance. Best Regards Sanjay Rath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Further to this,I just asked my mother about Lohri and she says, it has got to do harvest of wheat which comes alive in January. The farmers dance at this sign of prosperity and fertility. As said before, that is happens a day before Sankranti, does not mean it should be confused with it. Thanks and RegardsBharatOn Jan 14, 2008 1:38 PM, Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu wrote: Namaste SanjayjiLohri Festival has nothing to do with Sankranti. Lohri is celebrated to mark the end of winter by lighting bonfires, dancing around it and having good food. This is essentially a North Indian festival and mainly celebrated in Punjab and by Punjabis. The additions in family through birth or marriage is celebrated with even more vigor. Why should this be confused with Sankranti by anyone?Thanks and RegardsBharatOn Jan 13, 2008 9:12 PM, Sanjay Rath < sanjayrath > wrote: Dear Jyotishi Should I say happy Lorrie or sad Lorrie?? I am lost. Here is my dilemma. Delhi is truly in the dark ages. One Sardarji seems to have made a panchang that tells today is makar sankranti and everyone is celebrating the festival Lori. For heavens sake, we give a free software and there are many others available that can tell, whatever calculations they do, unless they are completely off, tomorrow is the sankranti. If Sankranti at night is to be treated as *next day* for festival then 15 Jan should be the festival instead of 14 Jan. But 13 Jan is stupid. Someone says that it is the end of Winter, so it is 13 jan which is the day before Makar Sankranti. But since when did India start celebrating the end of something? We always celebrate beginings, like the begining of a new year, the birth of a child showing the beginning of life, the upanayana showing the beginning of a spiritual life or the begining of married life. Can someone elighten me more about this festival called Lorri (spelt like Lorry or written like Lodi) Should we not celebrate maker Sankranti instead as the awakening of the Gods? Thank you for your enlightening answers in advance. Best Regards Sanjay Rath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Anything related to Agriculture has to be related to Surya Devta and it seems that the festivals of harvest are close by the same dates. However, Lohri is not celebrated all over India and was essentially a Punjabi festival. If it is celebrated on 13th Jan by some other name in other states/regions then, I am not aware of the same. However, Sankranti and Lohri were distinctly different. Else why would we celebrate the two on two different dates. Nor is it a continuation of a single festival over two days. Wheat is cut on Baisakhi but the harvested farmlands show their results now, and hence the farmer celebrates Lohri. This makes a festival of celebration of fertility of land and additions to the family. I always believed and was told that by grandparents that Lohri is celebrated to mark an end of winter. Sri Soul, if I remember you are in the heart of Punjab. Why don't you ask some traditionalists in your town? It would give us more thought on the same. Thanks and RegardsBharat On Jan 14, 2008 3:55 PM, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote: so if Lohri has to do with harvest, what is Baisakhi meant for? or, are there 2 harvests - one in january another in april? Baisakhi is said to mark the beginning of month of Vaishakha ( viz. Mesha Sankranti). these festivals have a seasonal factor to them and therefore also related to the agricultural cycles, but since they are not older than astrological calculations of the movement of the sun thru the zodiac, it seems that the celebration of the agriculturally significant dates would change wrt the dates of (performing rituals that mark) sankrantis in times to come. sohamsa , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " <astrologyhindu wrote: > > Further to this, > > I just asked my mother about Lohri and she says, it has got to do harvest of > wheat which comes alive in January. The farmers dance at this sign of > prosperity and fertility. > > As said before, that is happens a day before Sankranti, does not mean it > should be confused with it. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > > On Jan 14, 2008 1:38 PM, Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu > wrote: > > > Namaste Sanjayji > > > > Lohri Festival has nothing to do with Sankranti. Lohri is celebrated to > > mark the end of winter by lighting bonfires, dancing around it and having > > good food. This is essentially a North Indian festival and mainly celebrated > > in Punjab and by Punjabis. The additions in family through birth or marriage > > is celebrated with even more vigor. > > > > Why should this be confused with Sankranti by anyone? > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 13, 2008 9:12 PM, Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath > wrote: > > > > > Dear Jyotishi > > > > > > Should I say happy Lorrie or sad Lorrie?? I am lost. Here is my dilemma. > > > > > > > > > > > > Delhi is truly in the dark ages. One Sardarji seems to have made a > > > panchang that tells today is makar sankranti and everyone is celebrating the > > > festival Lori. For heavens sake, we give a free software and there are many > > > others available that can tell, whatever calculations they do, unless they > > > are completely off, tomorrow is the sankranti. If Sankranti at night is to > > > be treated as *next day* for festival then 15 Jan should be the festival > > > instead of 14 Jan. But 13 Jan is stupid. Someone says that it is the end of > > > Winter, so it is 13 jan which is the day before Makar Sankranti. But since > > > when did India start celebrating the end of something? We always celebrate > > > beginings, like the begining of a new year, the birth of a child showing the > > > beginning of life, the upanayana showing the beginning of a spiritual life > > > or the begining of married life. Can someone elighten me more about this > > > festival called Lorri (spelt like Lorry or written like Lodi) > > > > > > > > > > > > Should we not celebrate maker Sankranti instead as the awakening of the > > > Gods? Thank you for your enlightening answers in advance. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Hare Rama Krishna Exactly. In eastern India we do not have Lori. But celebrate Makar Sankranti. In Orissa its very big. In Bengal, it is very much linked with the new rice that is harvested in winter. Best Regards, Sarbani Rath Home Page: http://sarbani.com SJC: http://.com Courses: http://sohamsa.com Publications: http://sagittariuspublications.com Bharat - Hindu Astrology [astrologyhindu] Monday, January 14, 2008 6:01 PM sohamsa Re: Re: Lorrie Festival Anything related to Agriculture has to be related to Surya Devta and it seems that the festivals of harvest are close by the same dates. However, Lohri is not celebrated all over India and was essentially a Punjabi festival. If it is celebrated on 13th Jan by some other name in other states/regions then, I am not aware of the same. However, Sankranti and Lohri were distinctly different. Else why would we celebrate the two on two different dates. Nor is it a continuation of a single festival over two days. Wheat is cut on Baisakhi but the harvested farmlands show their results now, and hence the farmer celebrates Lohri. This makes a festival of celebration of fertility of land and additions to the family. I always believed and was told that by grandparents that Lohri is celebrated to mark an end of winter. Sri Soul, if I remember you are in the heart of Punjab. Why don't you ask some traditionalists in your town? It would give us more thought on the same. Thanks and Regards Bharat On Jan 14, 2008 3:55 PM, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote: so if Lohri has to do with harvest, what is Baisakhi meant for? or, are there 2 harvests - one in january another in april? Baisakhi is said to mark the beginning of month of Vaishakha ( viz. Mesha Sankranti). these festivals have a seasonal factor to them and therefore also related to the agricultural cycles, but since they are not older than astrological calculations of the movement of the sun thru the zodiac, it seems that the celebration of the agriculturally significant dates would change wrt the dates of (performing rituals that mark) sankrantis in times to come. sohamsa , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " <astrologyhindu wrote: > > Further to this, > > I just asked my mother about Lohri and she says, it has got to do harvest of > wheat which comes alive in January. The farmers dance at this sign of > prosperity and fertility. > > As said before, that is happens a day before Sankranti, does not mean it > should be confused with it. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > > On Jan 14, 2008 1:38 PM, Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu > wrote: > > > Namaste Sanjayji > > > > Lohri Festival has nothing to do with Sankranti. Lohri is celebrated to > > mark the end of winter by lighting bonfires, dancing around it and having > > good food. This is essentially a North Indian festival and mainly celebrated > > in Punjab and by Punjabis. The additions in family through birth or marriage > > is celebrated with even more vigor. > > > > Why should this be confused with Sankranti by anyone? > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 13, 2008 9:12 PM, Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath > wrote: > > > > > Dear Jyotishi > > > > > > Should I say happy Lorrie or sad Lorrie?? I am lost. Here is my dilemma. > > > > > > > > > > > > Delhi is truly in the dark ages. One Sardarji seems to have made a > > > panchang that tells today is makar sankranti and everyone is celebrating the > > > festival Lori. For heavens sake, we give a free software and there are many > > > others available that can tell, whatever calculations they do, unless they > > > are completely off, tomorrow is the sankranti. If Sankranti at night is to > > > be treated as *next day* for festival then 15 Jan should be the festival > > > instead of 14 Jan. But 13 Jan is stupid. Someone says that it is the end of > > > Winter, so it is 13 jan which is the day before Makar Sankranti. But since > > > when did India start celebrating the end of something? We always celebrate > > > beginings, like the begining of a new year, the birth of a child showing the > > > beginning of life, the upanayana showing the beginning of a spiritual life > > > or the begining of married life. Can someone elighten me more about this > > > festival called Lorri (spelt like Lorry or written like Lodi) > > > > > > > > > > > > Should we not celebrate maker Sankranti instead as the awakening of the > > > Gods? Thank you for your enlightening answers in advance. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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