My experience with wearing an emerald.. Some analysis needed..

[Guest guest]

Namaste Sri SundeepIn 2006, I had suggested the following for you, here is a cut and paste:Namaste Sri Sundeep

I am intruding to your post to Sri Visti.

Emerald and Ruby combination shall suit you. Do not wear a Ruby alone but in combination with an

Emerald. Emerald

looks like the key stone for your chart. Please follow proper rules in

buying and wearing gemstones. I shall mail them to you once you are

keen on wearing them. Green Tourmaline is another stone that shall suit you.

Aquamarine would also suit you but not good for money part so best to

avoid it too. Blue Sapphire should not be worn. Amethyst can be worn

but not now. It will be applicable later. Meanwhile, buy a geode of

Amethyst and keep it on your work table. Wear a Mars and Ketu numerical Yantra in a tabeez and wear in the neck using red thread for mars and Kesari thread for Ketu. Chant Vishnushashtranama everyday.

Thanks and RegardsBharatPlease inform if all of the above given measures were taken. Please take the following measures:1. Take of the pendant. Keep water in a copper vessel outside at night and on early morning of Wednesday of Shulka Paksha, wash the pendant with the same. 2. Take the pendant to a Lord Shiva Temple and ask Punditji to keep on the lingam while doing Rudrabhishekam. Chant Rudram along if you you can.

3. Wear the pendant after the Rudraabhishekam.Please check if the Emerald is not abraded or chipped. Emerald is very brittle and while making of the ring such things happen by inexperienced worksmen. Many of the traditional astrologers in India, believe that when a pet dies, especially a dog, a major problem that was to come on the household is averted. I do not know the logic of such a statement, but, many people insist the same. Mercury, is the 8th lord, but, it is in own house in the 5th house. This makes Mercury more keen on giving 5th house results. Secondly, Mercury is in the nakshatra of Jupiter, which is in the 6th house. This makes Mercury akin to a vipreet raja yoga and overcoming the effects of the 8th house through the role of the Jupiter. Therefore, the prayer to Lord Shiva before wearing the ring. Thanks and RegardsBharatOn Jan 16, 2008 1:28 AM, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear all,

 

My birthdata is 23:00pm, 29 June 1967, +5:30 GMT, 78E46, 22N12.

Aquarius ascendant, Mercury 5, 8L vargottama in 5. As I've posted

many times before, I continue to be in heavy debt in general. Cursed

moon (DK), going through the period of the curse from 2001-2008

according to Moola dasha, also confirmed by Narayana Dasha.

 

So one of the suggestions I had earlier gotten was to wear an

emerald since Mercury I believe is " Yogi " (or " Duplicate Yogi " , I

forget which). I know this is not a solution to the curse, for that

I have discovered (and followed) a strong attraction to the Gayatri

Mantra.

 

When I wore an emerald (19 Dec 2007, 8:56am, San Jose, CA, USA) (5

rati emerlad, in a 22ct gold pendant, in a 22ct thin gold chain)

after doing 1 mala of the Rg Veda mantra for mercury, the following

things happened:

1) My daughter's existing cold turned out to be a very bad case of

strep throat with lots of fever and pain, was put on antibiotics

immediately

2) My son developed the same, didnt respond to antibiotics,

eventually had to be switched to a powerful one to get cured (after

several days of fever and pain)

3) My wife and I both developed the same infection, and then after

my son didnt respond, we were told that the germ had mutated so we

were probably all going to get it again

4) I got news from India that my Dad was sick (he is quite old, so

the news is significant)

5) Again got news that my in-laws dog had suddenly died overnight

(every one was quite attached to it, so it was a significant event)

After that (about 4 days) i.e. all the above events and several

sleepless nights, I took off the emerald. There was some minor

financial good news while I was wearing the emerald, but other than

that nothing else.

 

Opinions? Was this (sicknesses) an effect of wearing the emerald?

Due to the 8th lordship of Mercury?

 

Thanks,

 

Sundeep

[Guest guest]

Dear Bharatji,

I remember your advice, thanks for reiterating it. I must admit I

didnt fully comprehend the meaning of wearing the Emerald and Ruby

together. I have kept your advice in mind though and I am still

doing so (including the new information you have given me) but I am

probably going to wait a bit before I act - I want to understand

things a bit better.

 

Thanks

 

Sundeep

 

 

sohamsa , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology "

<astrologyhindu wrote:

>

> Namaste Sri Sundeep

>

> In 2006, I had suggested the following for you, here is a cut and

paste:

>

> Namaste Sri Sundeep

>

> I am intruding to your post to Sri Visti.

>

> Emerald and Ruby combination shall suit you. Do not wear a Ruby

alone but in

> combination with an Emerald. Emerald looks like the key stone for

your

> chart. Please follow proper rules in buying and wearing gemstones.

I shall

> mail them to you once you are keen on wearing them.

>

> Green Tourmaline is another stone that shall suit you. Aquamarine

would also

> suit you but not good for money part so best to avoid it too. Blue

Sapphire

> should not be worn. Amethyst can be worn but not now. It will be

applicable

> later. Meanwhile, buy a geode of Amethyst and keep it on your work

table.

>

> Wear a Mars and Ketu numerical Yantra in a tabeez and wear in the

neck

> using red thread for mars and Kesari thread for Ketu.

>

> Chant Vishnushashtranama everyday.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

> Please inform if all of the above given measures were taken.

>

> Please take the following measures:

>

> 1. Take of the pendant. Keep water in a copper vessel outside at

night and

> on early morning of Wednesday of Shulka Paksha, wash the pendant

with the

> same.

> 2. Take the pendant to a Lord Shiva Temple and ask Punditji to

keep on the

> lingam while doing Rudrabhishekam. Chant Rudram along if you you

can.

> 3. Wear the pendant after the Rudraabhishekam.

>

> Please check if the Emerald is not abraded or chipped. Emerald is

very

> brittle and while making of the ring such things happen by

inexperienced

> worksmen.

>

> Many of the traditional astrologers in India, believe that when a

pet dies,

> especially a dog, a major problem that was to come on the

household is

> averted. I do not know the logic of such a statement, but, many

people

> insist the same.

>

> Mercury, is the 8th lord, but, it is in own house in the 5th

house. This

> makes Mercury more keen on giving 5th house results. Secondly,

Mercury is in

> the nakshatra of Jupiter, which is in the 6th house. This makes

Mercury akin

> to a vipreet raja yoga and overcoming the effects of the 8th house

through

> the role of the Jupiter. Therefore, the prayer to Lord Shiva

before wearing

> the ring.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

On Jan 16, 2008 1:28 AM, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent

> wrote:

>

> > Dear all,

> >

> > My birthdata is 23:00pm, 29 June 1967, +5:30 GMT, 78E46, 22N12.

> > Aquarius ascendant, Mercury 5, 8L vargottama in 5. As I've posted

> > many times before, I continue to be in heavy debt in general.

Cursed

> > moon (DK), going through the period of the curse from 2001-2008

> > according to Moola dasha, also confirmed by Narayana Dasha.

> >

> > So one of the suggestions I had earlier gotten was to wear an

> > emerald since Mercury I believe is " Yogi " (or " Duplicate Yogi " , I

> > forget which). I know this is not a solution to the curse, for

that

> > I have discovered (and followed) a strong attraction to the

Gayatri

> > Mantra.

> >

> > When I wore an emerald (19 Dec 2007, 8:56am, San Jose, CA, USA)

(5

> > rati emerlad, in a 22ct gold pendant, in a 22ct thin gold chain)

> > after doing 1 mala of the Rg Veda mantra for mercury, the

following

> > things happened:

> > 1) My daughter's existing cold turned out to be a very bad case

of

> > strep throat with lots of fever and pain, was put on antibiotics

> > immediately

> > 2) My son developed the same, didnt respond to antibiotics,

> > eventually had to be switched to a powerful one to get cured

(after

> > several days of fever and pain)

> > 3) My wife and I both developed the same infection, and then

after

> > my son didnt respond, we were told that the germ had mutated so

we

> > were probably all going to get it again

> > 4) I got news from India that my Dad was sick (he is quite old,

so

> > the news is significant)

> > 5) Again got news that my in-laws dog had suddenly died overnight

> > (every one was quite attached to it, so it was a significant

event)

> > After that (about 4 days) i.e. all the above events and several

> > sleepless nights, I took off the emerald. There was some minor

> > financial good news while I was wearing the emerald, but other

than

> > that nothing else.

> >

> > Opinions? Was this (sicknesses) an effect of wearing the emerald?

> > Due to the 8th lordship of Mercury?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Sundeep

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Namaskar Sundeep Bhai,

 

For quite some time, I have not posted anything on

this list though I read all the mails every morning.

However, after going through your predicament, I am

forced to share my experience with you.

 

I have experimented with gems all throughout, and have

reached to a conclusion when it comes to gems, there

is more than what meets the eye. There is definitely

something beyond the horoscope. I can show you so many

cases when a particular planet was outright benefic as

per all canons of jyotish shashtras, still the gem

related to the benefic planet did not suit the native.

After all my exploration, I am more than convinced

that unless there is some kind of divine will, the gem

will not suit you. Astrology and astrologer may be

helpful, but both the elements are not the end-all

when it comes to have the gems suit you.

 

This is not to cast any aspersions on the erudition of

any astrolger or gurus on this forums, but a fact I

just want the senior astrologers to brood over.

Whenever the gem does not suit a native, the

astrologers may either say, " oh, the gem you brought

may not have been of vedic quality " , or the 'muhurta

in which you wore the gem was not good, so the gem did

not suit you " . Now what is this " vedic quality gem " ?

The gem dealers will zap you with all kinds of jargon,

such as the gem should not be heat-treated, it should

not be processed, and the vedic gems are very costly,

so on and so forth.

Well, fine! Since in my case almost every astrologer

on the planet prescribes Blue Sapphire, I have tried

wearing Blue Sapphire so many times and everytime I

was left with disaster to face. And mind you the

adverse effect was given within couple of hours of

wearing the gem on every occasion. So this very senior

astrologer told me that " try a vedic quality gem " . I

contacted a gem dealer who has got quite a good

reputation, and got a Ble Sapphire for almost three

thousand US dollars. Belive me within three hours, it

gave me such a disastrous effect that I was dealing

with the aftermatch for almost three months. This left

me so disappointed.

When I narrate this to any astrologer, he immediately

whips out a pen and paper and starts coming out

several theories on why a Blue Sapphire won't suit me.

It surprises me no end...

Then somebody suggested you should wear Vedic quality

Ruby. And when I enquired about vedic quality Ruby, I

was told it would cost 7000 USD. I really do not get

this...

And mind you, my horoscope is correct, as my date of

birth is recorded as correctly as was humanly possible

during the era of my birth.

 

Now, the following event happened about 10 years

before. One of my colleagues was looking for a Blue

Sapphire and since two carat Blue Sapphire was lying

with me, I gave it to him. This stone was not of very

inferior quality. I had got for Rs 600 per carat. I

gave him, but I was sure that " it won't suit him as

Blue Sapphire rarely suits anybody. " He wore that

stone and to my utter shock, within 10 days of wearing

the stone, he got a very fantastic break with a

popular channel in India. After ten years, he still

has the same Blue Sapphire and this guy is quite

famous as an English news anchor in India. My point is

this stone was not of " vedic quality " , and still it

pulled him up beyond his wildest dreams. What could be

reason? Is this whole claim of " vedic quality gem " is

just a marketing gimmick? Even if argument sake we

agree that to get tangible results, you need to have

vedic quality gems, my question is how many of us can

afford vedic quality gems?

 

Against these facts, Sundeep Bhai, I want to request

you to please do not get into the reasons for which

the gem is not suiting you. Just accecpt the fact and

resort to 'mantra jap' to burn your bad karmas. I am

sure senior Gurus would hand-hold you on this...

--- Bharat - Hindu Astrology

<astrologyhindu wrote:

 

> Namaste Sri Sundeep

>

> You may take as much time as you want before wearing

> it again. I completely

> understand if you do not want to wear an Emerald

> especially in light of Sri

> Narasimha's advice.

>

> When I analyze a chart, I try to do it in a simple

> way. I think I should let

> you know why I suggested Emerald for you:

>

> 1. None of your Kendras have any grahas.

> 2. Of the 3 trikonas only one is occupied by a

> supposed benefic.

> 3. Mercury is the Nakshatra lord of both your

> Lagnesh Saturn and Yogakaraka

> Venus and giving strength to both by bringing their

> energy to the 5th house.

> This is especially important since Venus is in

> marana sthana as well as in

> Gandanta. The only influence that seeks to bring it

> out is Mercury. This is

> a Nadi principle used by Sri Meena in his landmark

> book.

> 4. Mercury's Rashi are dagdha Rasis. The principle

> of Sri Iyer is that

> daghda Rasi is a burnt Rasi and planets therein

> cannot function properly.

> However, if a daghda Rasi lord is in the daghda rasi

> (Mercury in own rasi),

> it bestows special knowledge to survive in burnt

> Rasis. Mercury therefore,

> should bring Mantra Shakti, Creativity, Research

> ability, wanting to know

> the secrets and Long life to you.

> 5. Mercury is in the nakshatra of Jupiter and that

> strengthens the guna of

> Mercury. It bring Mercurian energy with Jupiter and

> Venus and completes the

> Lagnadhi

> Yoga. This is why Rudram chanting and Rudrabhishekam

> was important

> before wearing the ring.

>

> 6. With the point 5, Mercury's energy as 8th lord in

> 6th is akin to Vipreet

> Raja Yoga.

> 7. Mercury is Retrograde and seeks stability and

> consistency in life as

> governed by Taurus. It is also Vargottama. This

> makes it exceptionally

> strong protector of a Trikona sthana. As a

> retrograde graha it can give

> inconsistent or sudden results. Therefore, I had

> asked you to chant Sri

> Vishnusahastranama everyday in my email

> in 2006. This would counter any ill effect of the

> graha. As you aware

> no graha gives only good results.

>

> 8. I had also specified to you that once you plan to

> wear it, then, please

> tell me such that I can explain you the procedure of

> wearing the same.

> 9. I take the normal 22nd Drekkana and that shows

> Taurus for you.

>

> If you have worn this Emerald pendant solely on my

> advice and do not want to

> continue to wear it or do prayers to it as Sri

> Narasimha has suggested,

> then, as a moral duty I would like to pay you for

> the Emerald and buy it

> from you. As such your financial position is not

> good and I would not like

> to burden it by a possible wrong suggestion.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

On 1/17/08, vedicastrostudent

> <vedicastrostudent wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bharatji,

> > I remember your advice, thanks for reiterating it.

> I must admit I

> > didnt fully comprehend the meaning of wearing the

> Emerald and Ruby

> > together. I have kept your advice in mind though

> and I am still

> > doing so (including the new information you have

> given me) but I am

> > probably going to wait a bit before I act - I want

> to understand

> > things a bit better.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Sundeep

> >

> > sohamsa

> <sohamsa%40>, " Bharat -

> > Hindu Astrology "

> > <astrologyhindu wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Sri Sundeep

> > >

> > > In 2006, I had suggested the following for you,

> here is a cut and

> > paste:

> > >

> > > Namaste Sri Sundeep

> > >

> > > I am intruding to your post to Sri Visti.

> > >

> > > Emerald and Ruby combination shall suit you. Do

> not wear a Ruby

> > alone but in

> > > combination with an Emerald. Emerald looks like

> the key stone for

> > your

> > > chart. Please follow proper rules in buying and

> wearing gemstones.

> > I shall

> > > mail them to you once you are keen on wearing

> them.

> > >

> > > Green Tourmaline is another stone that shall

> suit you. Aquamarine

> > would also

> > > suit you but not good for money part so best to

> avoid it too. Blue

> > Sapphire

> > > should not be worn. Amethyst can be worn but not

> now. It will be

> > applicable

> > > later. Meanwhile, buy a geode of Amethyst and

> keep it on your work

> > table.

> > >

> > > Wear a Mars and Ketu numerical Yantra in a

> tabeez and wear in the

> > neck

> > > using red thread for mars and Kesari thread for

> Ketu.

> > >

> > > Chant Vishnushashtranama everyday.

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards

> > > Bharat

> > >

> > > Please inform if all of the above given measures

> were taken.

> > >

> > > Please take the following measures:

> > >

> > > 1. Take of the pendant. Keep water in a copper

> vessel outside at

> > night and

> > > on early morning of Wednesday of Shulka Paksha,

> wash the pendant

> > with the

> > > same.

> > > 2. Take the pendant to a Lord Shiva Temple and

> ask Punditji to

> > keep on the

> > > lingam while doing Rudrabhishekam. Chant Rudram

> along if you you

> > can.

> > > 3. Wear the pendant after the Rudraabhishekam.

> > >

> > > Please check if the Emerald is not abraded or

> chipped. Emerald is

> > very

> > > brittle and while making of the ring such things

> happen by

> > inexperienced

> > > worksmen.

> > >

> > > Many of the traditional astrologers in India,

> believe that when a

> > pet dies,

> > > especially a dog, a major problem that was to

> come on the

> > household is

> > > averted. I do not know the logic of such a

> statement, but, many

> > people

> > > insist the same.

> > >

> > > Mercury, is the 8th lord, but, it is in own

> house in the 5th

> > house. This

> > > makes Mercury more keen on giving 5th house

> results. Secondly,

>

=== message truncated ===

[Guest guest]

Dear Nitish,

You are probably correct in your reference to " Shiva " tattwa. I

assume this is because of the Sun in the 5th correct? I believe that

that is why I have taken to the Gayatri mantra. Does it not fulfil

the purpose you say?

 

In my personal experience, I have only done two mantras (i.e.

consistently for a long period of time), " Om Namah Shivaya " and the

Gayatri mantra. I started each one in a very sudden way and was

unconsciously led to it. The problem with Om Namah Shivaya, while I

strongly felt that it encouraged the renunciate in me and definitely

made me more spiritual, I felt it was somewhat too harsh and quick

and making me want to give up everything (and I have two young

kids). The Gayatri mantra has been much more gentle and uplifting

while slowly increasing awareness - it not only seems to affect me,

but the environment around me too is more conducive. At least that

is what I feel (I have switched off my logical thinking while

writing the above).. So I dont really know how different " Namah

Shivaya " would be..

 

Thanks

 

Sundeep

 

 

sohamsa , " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya wrote:

>

> || OM TAT SAT ||

> Dear Sundeep,

> I am putting forth a two points.

> 1. Me being vargottama as 5th lord in 5th, shows that it plays a

> deterministic role in awakening/transformation of your intelligence

> through the effects it gives.

> 2. The set of synchronous events followed by your wearing of

emerald,

> shows the amount of influence it carries in your chart as well as

the

> number of lives you will be able to effect through the +ve

expression

> of this planet - all-pervading effects would come in the field of

> application of your intelligence (placed in constellation of Ju).

> The amount of positive results would be seen by the connection

with

> ishta/dharma devata. Since aspect of vishnu tattwa is already

there,

> and visible even by wearing a stone, the aspect of shiva tattwa

should

> be strengthened to bring knowledge for the " gathered

intelligence " . I

> think panchakshari " Namah Shivaya " would bring the required

knowledge.

>

> regards,

> nitish

>

> sohamsa , " vedicastrostudent "

> <vedicastrostudent@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear all,

> >

> > My birthdata is 23:00pm, 29 June 1967, +5:30 GMT, 78E46, 22N12.

> > Aquarius ascendant, Mercury 5, 8L vargottama in 5. As I've

posted

> > many times before, I continue to be in heavy debt in general.

Cursed

> > moon (DK), going through the period of the curse from 2001-2008

> > according to Moola dasha, also confirmed by Narayana Dasha.

> >

> > So one of the suggestions I had earlier gotten was to wear an

> > emerald since Mercury I believe is " Yogi " (or " Duplicate Yogi " ,

I

> > forget which). I know this is not a solution to the curse, for

that

> > I have discovered (and followed) a strong attraction to the

Gayatri

> > Mantra.

> >

> > When I wore an emerald (19 Dec 2007, 8:56am, San Jose, CA, USA)

(5

> > rati emerlad, in a 22ct gold pendant, in a 22ct thin gold chain)

> > after doing 1 mala of the Rg Veda mantra for mercury, the

following

> > things happened:

> > 1) My daughter's existing cold turned out to be a very bad case

of

> > strep throat with lots of fever and pain, was put on antibiotics

> > immediately

> > 2) My son developed the same, didnt respond to antibiotics,

> > eventually had to be switched to a powerful one to get cured

(after

> > several days of fever and pain)

> > 3) My wife and I both developed the same infection, and then

after

> > my son didnt respond, we were told that the germ had mutated so

we

> > were probably all going to get it again

> > 4) I got news from India that my Dad was sick (he is quite old,

so

> > the news is significant)

> > 5) Again got news that my in-laws dog had suddenly died

overnight

> > (every one was quite attached to it, so it was a significant

event)

> > After that (about 4 days) i.e. all the above events and several

> > sleepless nights, I took off the emerald. There was some minor

> > financial good news while I was wearing the emerald, but other

than

> > that nothing else.

> >

> > Opinions? Was this (sicknesses) an effect of wearing the

emerald?

> > Due to the 8th lordship of Mercury?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Sundeep

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bharatji,

 

Thank you so much for giving me the detailed reasoning. I will

spend some time absorbing it. And please dont think that I have even

for a second felt that your advice was " wrong " . I did my own

research too. I simply feel like I am about to get a deeper

understanding through this experience with an emerald. There is

obviously some experimentation involved here. I value your advice

the same as I always did. I only posted to get more ideas and

understand things better..

 

Thanks,

 

Sundeep

 

 

sohamsa , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology "

<astrologyhindu wrote:

>

> Namaste Sri Sundeep

>

> You may take as much time as you want before wearing it again. I

completely

> understand if you do not want to wear an Emerald especially in

light of Sri

> Narasimha's advice.

>

> When I analyze a chart, I try to do it in a simple way. I think I

should let

> you know why I suggested Emerald for you:

>

> 1. None of your Kendras have any grahas.

> 2. Of the 3 trikonas only one is occupied by a supposed benefic.

> 3. Mercury is the Nakshatra lord of both your Lagnesh Saturn and

Yogakaraka

> Venus and giving strength to both by bringing their energy to the

5th house.

> This is especially important since Venus is in marana sthana as

well as in

> Gandanta. The only influence that seeks to bring it out is

Mercury. This is

> a Nadi principle used by Sri Meena in his landmark book.

> 4. Mercury's Rashi are dagdha Rasis. The principle of Sri Iyer is

that

> daghda Rasi is a burnt Rasi and planets therein cannot function

properly.

> However, if a daghda Rasi lord is in the daghda rasi (Mercury in

own rasi),

> it bestows special knowledge to survive in burnt Rasis. Mercury

therefore,

> should bring Mantra Shakti, Creativity, Research ability, wanting

to know

> the secrets and Long life to you.

> 5. Mercury is in the nakshatra of Jupiter and that strengthens the

guna of

> Mercury. It bring Mercurian energy with Jupiter and Venus and

completes the

> Lagnadhi

> Yoga. This is why Rudram chanting and Rudrabhishekam was important

> before wearing the ring.

>

> 6. With the point 5, Mercury's energy as 8th lord in 6th is akin

to Vipreet

> Raja Yoga.

> 7. Mercury is Retrograde and seeks stability and consistency in

life as

> governed by Taurus. It is also Vargottama. This makes it

exceptionally

> strong protector of a Trikona sthana. As a retrograde graha it can

give

> inconsistent or sudden results. Therefore, I had asked you to

chant Sri

> Vishnusahastranama everyday in my email

> in 2006. This would counter any ill effect of the graha. As you

aware

> no graha gives only good results.

>

> 8. I had also specified to you that once you plan to wear it,

then, please

> tell me such that I can explain you the procedure of wearing the

same.

> 9. I take the normal 22nd Drekkana and that shows Taurus for you.

>

> If you have worn this Emerald pendant solely on my advice and do

not want to

> continue to wear it or do prayers to it as Sri Narasimha has

suggested,

> then, as a moral duty I would like to pay you for the Emerald and

buy it

> from you. As such your financial position is not good and I would

not like

> to burden it by a possible wrong suggestion.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

On 1/17/08, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bharatji,

> > I remember your advice, thanks for reiterating it. I must admit I

> > didnt fully comprehend the meaning of wearing the Emerald and

Ruby

> > together. I have kept your advice in mind though and I am still

> > doing so (including the new information you have given me) but I

am

> > probably going to wait a bit before I act - I want to understand

> > things a bit better.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Sundeep

> >

> > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40>, " Bharat -

> > Hindu Astrology "

> > <astrologyhindu@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Sri Sundeep

> > >

> > > In 2006, I had suggested the following for you, here is a cut

and

> > paste:

> > >

> > > Namaste Sri Sundeep

> > >

> > > I am intruding to your post to Sri Visti.

> > >

> > > Emerald and Ruby combination shall suit you. Do not wear a Ruby

> > alone but in

> > > combination with an Emerald. Emerald looks like the key stone

for

> > your

> > > chart. Please follow proper rules in buying and wearing

gemstones.

> > I shall

> > > mail them to you once you are keen on wearing them.

> > >

> > > Green Tourmaline is another stone that shall suit you.

Aquamarine

> > would also

> > > suit you but not good for money part so best to avoid it too.

Blue

> > Sapphire

> > > should not be worn. Amethyst can be worn but not now. It will

be

> > applicable

> > > later. Meanwhile, buy a geode of Amethyst and keep it on your

work

> > table.

> > >

> > > Wear a Mars and Ketu numerical Yantra in a tabeez and wear in

the

> > neck

> > > using red thread for mars and Kesari thread for Ketu.

> > >

> > > Chant Vishnushashtranama everyday.

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards

> > > Bharat

> > >

> > > Please inform if all of the above given measures were taken.

> > >

> > > Please take the following measures:

> > >

> > > 1. Take of the pendant. Keep water in a copper vessel outside

at

> > night and

> > > on early morning of Wednesday of Shulka Paksha, wash the

pendant

> > with the

> > > same.

> > > 2. Take the pendant to a Lord Shiva Temple and ask Punditji to

> > keep on the

> > > lingam while doing Rudrabhishekam. Chant Rudram along if you

you

> > can.

> > > 3. Wear the pendant after the Rudraabhishekam.

> > >

> > > Please check if the Emerald is not abraded or chipped. Emerald

is

> > very

> > > brittle and while making of the ring such things happen by

> > inexperienced

> > > worksmen.

> > >

> > > Many of the traditional astrologers in India, believe that

when a

> > pet dies,

> > > especially a dog, a major problem that was to come on the

> > household is

> > > averted. I do not know the logic of such a statement, but, many

> > people

> > > insist the same.

> > >

> > > Mercury, is the 8th lord, but, it is in own house in the 5th

> > house. This

> > > makes Mercury more keen on giving 5th house results. Secondly,

> > Mercury is in

> > > the nakshatra of Jupiter, which is in the 6th house. This makes

> > Mercury akin

> > > to a vipreet raja yoga and overcoming the effects of the 8th

house

> > through

> > > the role of the Jupiter. Therefore, the prayer to Lord Shiva

> > before wearing

> > > the ring.

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards

> > > Bharat

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Jan 16, 2008 1:28 AM, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent@>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear all,

> > > >

> > > > My birthdata is 23:00pm, 29 June 1967, +5:30 GMT, 78E46,

22N12.

> > > > Aquarius ascendant, Mercury 5, 8L vargottama in 5. As I've

posted

> > > > many times before, I continue to be in heavy debt in general.

> > Cursed

> > > > moon (DK), going through the period of the curse from 2001-

2008

> > > > according to Moola dasha, also confirmed by Narayana Dasha.

> > > >

> > > > So one of the suggestions I had earlier gotten was to wear an

> > > > emerald since Mercury I believe is " Yogi " (or " Duplicate

Yogi " , I

> > > > forget which). I know this is not a solution to the curse,

for

> > that

> > > > I have discovered (and followed) a strong attraction to the

> > Gayatri

> > > > Mantra.

> > > >

> > > > When I wore an emerald (19 Dec 2007, 8:56am, San Jose, CA,

USA)

> > (5

> > > > rati emerlad, in a 22ct gold pendant, in a 22ct thin gold

chain)

> > > > after doing 1 mala of the Rg Veda mantra for mercury, the

> > following

> > > > things happened:

> > > > 1) My daughter's existing cold turned out to be a very bad

case

> > of

> > > > strep throat with lots of fever and pain, was put on

antibiotics

> > > > immediately

> > > > 2) My son developed the same, didnt respond to antibiotics,

> > > > eventually had to be switched to a powerful one to get cured

> > (after

> > > > several days of fever and pain)

> > > > 3) My wife and I both developed the same infection, and then

> > after

> > > > my son didnt respond, we were told that the germ had mutated

so

> > we

> > > > were probably all going to get it again

> > > > 4) I got news from India that my Dad was sick (he is quite

old,

> > so

> > > > the news is significant)

> > > > 5) Again got news that my in-laws dog had suddenly died

overnight

> > > > (every one was quite attached to it, so it was a significant

> > event)

> > > > After that (about 4 days) i.e. all the above events and

several

> > > > sleepless nights, I took off the emerald. There was some

minor

> > > > financial good news while I was wearing the emerald, but

other

> > than

> > > > that nothing else.

> > > >

> > > > Opinions? Was this (sicknesses) an effect of wearing the

emerald?

> > > > Due to the 8th lordship of Mercury?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > Sundeep

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste Sri ManojI have tried to demolish the thought of " Jyotish Quality Gemstones " in my many writings. I was attacked left right and center in a group which I left, cause I thought it was no point arguing on something which people have a knowledge block about. Sri Sundeep already knows through my writings that I have found the relevance of opaque gemstones too. However, I would still desist from using diffusion treated gemstones as they are artificially colored and we have no clue as to what their results would be. I personally have a collection of more than 150-200 gemstones of varied clarity and different sizes. I use them for research especially upon myself. I have specified the usage of different gemstones for different purposes on this forum. Such benefits I have experienced and so have my clients. Like Fire Opal is amazingly helpful in treating a very acidic stomach and indigestion. This has been found useful upon more than 25 of my clients. I used 3 Fire Opals for treating these clients. I used to reactivate the Fire Opal through different methods of reactivation for usage of different clients. When something is not known, you do not discard all research or leave the subject. If all science worked in a similar fashion, there wouldn't be any science. If something is not known, we have to work harder to know it. I have close to 3000 clients in India and have specified gemstones to at least 60% of them. Only twice have I received a feedback contrary to my suggestions. I accept this feedback as another learning experience and try and see where I went wrong. I have specified and used some uncommon gemstones such as Rhodolite, Red Garnet, Citrine, Amethyst, Rose Quartz, Tourmaline - Green, Red, Chrome, etc, Chrysoberyl, Aquarmarine, Spinels, etc. I have also classified where and when to use them. Therefore, I ask users to show their frustration, but, do not dismiss this amazing subject just yet. A lot is yet to come. Thanks and RegardsBharatOn Jan 18, 2008 4:41 AM, Manoj Sharma <

manojsharma662000 wrote:

 

 

 

 

Namaskar Sundeep Bhai,

 

For quite some time, I have not posted anything on

this list though I read all the mails every morning.

However, after going through your predicament, I am

forced to share my experience with you.

 

I have experimented with gems all throughout, and have

reached to a conclusion when it comes to gems, there

is more than what meets the eye. There is definitely

something beyond the horoscope. I can show you so many

cases when a particular planet was outright benefic as

per all canons of jyotish shashtras, still the gem

related to the benefic planet did not suit the native.

After all my exploration, I am more than convinced

that unless there is some kind of divine will, the gem

will not suit you. Astrology and astrologer may be

helpful, but both the elements are not the end-all

when it comes to have the gems suit you.

 

This is not to cast any aspersions on the erudition of

any astrolger or gurus on this forums, but a fact I

just want the senior astrologers to brood over.

Whenever the gem does not suit a native, the

astrologers may either say, " oh, the gem you brought

may not have been of vedic quality " , or the 'muhurta

in which you wore the gem was not good, so the gem did

not suit you " . Now what is this " vedic quality gem " ?

The gem dealers will zap you with all kinds of jargon,

such as the gem should not be heat-treated, it should

not be processed, and the vedic gems are very costly,

so on and so forth.

Well, fine! Since in my case almost every astrologer

on the planet prescribes Blue Sapphire, I have tried

wearing Blue Sapphire so many times and everytime I

was left with disaster to face. And mind you the

adverse effect was given within couple of hours of

wearing the gem on every occasion. So this very senior

astrologer told me that " try a vedic quality gem " . I

contacted a gem dealer who has got quite a good

reputation, and got a Ble Sapphire for almost three

thousand US dollars. Belive me within three hours, it

gave me such a disastrous effect that I was dealing

with the aftermatch for almost three months. This left

me so disappointed.

When I narrate this to any astrologer, he immediately

whips out a pen and paper and starts coming out

several theories on why a Blue Sapphire won't suit me.

It surprises me no end...

Then somebody suggested you should wear Vedic quality

Ruby. And when I enquired about vedic quality Ruby, I

was told it would cost 7000 USD. I really do not get

this...

And mind you, my horoscope is correct, as my date of

birth is recorded as correctly as was humanly possible

during the era of my birth.

 

Now, the following event happened about 10 years

before. One of my colleagues was looking for a Blue

Sapphire and since two carat Blue Sapphire was lying

with me, I gave it to him. This stone was not of very

inferior quality. I had got for Rs 600 per carat. I

gave him, but I was sure that " it won't suit him as

Blue Sapphire rarely suits anybody. " He wore that

stone and to my utter shock, within 10 days of wearing

the stone, he got a very fantastic break with a

popular channel in India. After ten years, he still

has the same Blue Sapphire and this guy is quite

famous as an English news anchor in India. My point is

this stone was not of " vedic quality " , and still it

pulled him up beyond his wildest dreams. What could be

reason? Is this whole claim of " vedic quality gem " is

just a marketing gimmick? Even if argument sake we

agree that to get tangible results, you need to have

vedic quality gems, my question is how many of us can

afford vedic quality gems?

 

Against these facts, Sundeep Bhai, I want to request

you to please do not get into the reasons for which

the gem is not suiting you. Just accecpt the fact and

resort to 'mantra jap' to burn your bad karmas. I am

sure senior Gurus would hand-hold you on this...

--- Bharat - Hindu Astrology

<astrologyhindu wrote:

 

> Namaste Sri Sundeep

>

> You may take as much time as you want before wearing

> it again. I completely

> understand if you do not want to wear an Emerald

> especially in light of Sri

> Narasimha's advice.

>

> When I analyze a chart, I try to do it in a simple

> way. I think I should let

> you know why I suggested Emerald for you:

>

> 1. None of your Kendras have any grahas.

> 2. Of the 3 trikonas only one is occupied by a

> supposed benefic.

> 3. Mercury is the Nakshatra lord of both your

> Lagnesh Saturn and Yogakaraka

> Venus and giving strength to both by bringing their

> energy to the 5th house.

> This is especially important since Venus is in

> marana sthana as well as in

> Gandanta. The only influence that seeks to bring it

> out is Mercury. This is

> a Nadi principle used by Sri Meena in his landmark

> book.

> 4. Mercury's Rashi are dagdha Rasis. The principle

> of Sri Iyer is that

> daghda Rasi is a burnt Rasi and planets therein

> cannot function properly.

> However, if a daghda Rasi lord is in the daghda rasi

> (Mercury in own rasi),

> it bestows special knowledge to survive in burnt

> Rasis. Mercury therefore,

> should bring Mantra Shakti, Creativity, Research

> ability, wanting to know

> the secrets and Long life to you.

> 5. Mercury is in the nakshatra of Jupiter and that

> strengthens the guna of

> Mercury. It bring Mercurian energy with Jupiter and

> Venus and completes the

> Lagnadhi

> Yoga. This is why Rudram chanting and Rudrabhishekam

> was important

> before wearing the ring.

>

> 6. With the point 5, Mercury's energy as 8th lord in

> 6th is akin to Vipreet

> Raja Yoga.

> 7. Mercury is Retrograde and seeks stability and

> consistency in life as

> governed by Taurus. It is also Vargottama. This

> makes it exceptionally

> strong protector of a Trikona sthana. As a

> retrograde graha it can give

> inconsistent or sudden results. Therefore, I had

> asked you to chant Sri

> Vishnusahastranama everyday in my email

> in 2006. This would counter any ill effect of the

> graha. As you aware

> no graha gives only good results.

>

> 8. I had also specified to you that once you plan to

> wear it, then, please

> tell me such that I can explain you the procedure of

> wearing the same.

> 9. I take the normal 22nd Drekkana and that shows

> Taurus for you.

>

> If you have worn this Emerald pendant solely on my

> advice and do not want to

> continue to wear it or do prayers to it as Sri

> Narasimha has suggested,

> then, as a moral duty I would like to pay you for

> the Emerald and buy it

> from you. As such your financial position is not

> good and I would not like

> to burden it by a possible wrong suggestion.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

>

>

>

>

>

> On 1/17/08, vedicastrostudent

> <vedicastrostudent wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bharatji,

> > I remember your advice, thanks for reiterating it.

> I must admit I

> > didnt fully comprehend the meaning of wearing the

> Emerald and Ruby

> > together. I have kept your advice in mind though

> and I am still

> > doing so (including the new information you have

> given me) but I am

> > probably going to wait a bit before I act - I want

> to understand

> > things a bit better.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Sundeep

> >

> > sohamsa

> <sohamsa%40>, " Bharat -

> > Hindu Astrology "

> > <astrologyhindu wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Sri Sundeep

> > >

> > > In 2006, I had suggested the following for you,

> here is a cut and

> > paste:

> > >

> > > Namaste Sri Sundeep

> > >

> > > I am intruding to your post to Sri Visti.

> > >

> > > Emerald and Ruby combination shall suit you. Do

> not wear a Ruby

> > alone but in

> > > combination with an Emerald. Emerald looks like

> the key stone for

> > your

> > > chart. Please follow proper rules in buying and

> wearing gemstones.

> > I shall

> > > mail them to you once you are keen on wearing

> them.

> > >

> > > Green Tourmaline is another stone that shall

> suit you. Aquamarine

> > would also

> > > suit you but not good for money part so best to

> avoid it too. Blue

> > Sapphire

> > > should not be worn. Amethyst can be worn but not

> now. It will be

> > applicable

> > > later. Meanwhile, buy a geode of Amethyst and

> keep it on your work

> > table.

> > >

> > > Wear a Mars and Ketu numerical Yantra in a

> tabeez and wear in the

> > neck

> > > using red thread for mars and Kesari thread for

> Ketu.

> > >

> > > Chant Vishnushashtranama everyday.

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards

> > > Bharat

> > >

> > > Please inform if all of the above given measures

> were taken.

> > >

> > > Please take the following measures:

> > >

> > > 1. Take of the pendant. Keep water in a copper

> vessel outside at

> > night and

> > > on early morning of Wednesday of Shulka Paksha,

> wash the pendant

> > with the

> > > same.

> > > 2. Take the pendant to a Lord Shiva Temple and

> ask Punditji to

> > keep on the

> > > lingam while doing Rudrabhishekam. Chant Rudram

> along if you you

> > can.

> > > 3. Wear the pendant after the Rudraabhishekam.

> > >

> > > Please check if the Emerald is not abraded or

> chipped. Emerald is

> > very

> > > brittle and while making of the ring such things

> happen by

> > inexperienced

> > > worksmen.

> > >

> > > Many of the traditional astrologers in India,

> believe that when a

> > pet dies,

> > > especially a dog, a major problem that was to

> come on the

> > household is

> > > averted. I do not know the logic of such a

> statement, but, many

> > people

> > > insist the same.

> > >

> > > Mercury, is the 8th lord, but, it is in own

> house in the 5th

> > house. This

> > > makes Mercury more keen on giving 5th house

> results. Secondly,

>

=== message truncated ===

[Guest guest]

Namaskar Bharat Bhai,

There is not a single sentence in your mail that I do

not find myself agreeing. What you say is 100 per cent

correct. I was only trying to make a point, sometimes

it is very difficult to infer why a particular gem is

not suiting a native. It is my sincere belief that God

should will that a particular gem suits you. If there

is no divine will, gems won't suit you. What I was

saying, the astrologers can only interpret what is

apparent in a horoscope. They can not peep into the

realm of divinity; at least most of them can't

although there are exceptions who can, and for these

evolved souls do not need the horoscopes.

Actually speaking, I consider you one of the most

knowledgable person on ratna shashtra. I also do not

discard gem shashtra; otherwise how would you explain

the fact that I an still continuing to explore this

arena. Recently, a very senior astrologer and guru

(actually he is The Guru of this forum) has asked me

to again try diamond and perhaps this evening I am

going out to look for new diamond ring for myself.

Although I have tried diamond in the past, it has not

suited me. But I am still going to try because this

Guru, I feel, has Saraswati residing on his tongue,

and whatever he says turns out to be True. I am

praying that this time with Guru's grace, diamond

suits me.

So this is my take on the whole issue. I would

emphasize here that I concur (with quite reverence)

with every word you have said in your mail. The

content of my mail was not borne out of any

frustration. I guess, I have gone beyond such feelings

on astrology. All I meant was: Astrology works, and so

does the gems. If they do not work in case of some

individuals, it is the sweet will of the divinity. It

has got nothing to do with the astrologer's

competence. That's all.

Thanks for responding to my mail.

My Best regards

Manoj Sharma

--- Bharat - Hindu Astrology

<astrologyhindu wrote:

 

> Namaste Sri Manoj

>

> I have tried to demolish the thought of " Jyotish

> Quality Gemstones " in my

> many writings. I was attacked left right and center

> in a group which I left,

> cause I thought it was no point arguing on something

> which people have a

> knowledge block about.

>

> Sri Sundeep already knows through my writings that I

> have found the

> relevance of opaque gemstones too. However, I would

> still desist from using

> diffusion treated gemstones as they are artificially

> colored and we have no

> clue as to what their results would be.

>

> I personally have a collection of more than 150-200

> gemstones of varied

> clarity and different sizes. I use them for research

> especially upon myself.

> I have specified the usage of different gemstones

> for different purposes on

> this forum. Such benefits I have experienced and so

> have my clients. Like

> Fire Opal is amazingly helpful in treating a very

> acidic stomach and

> indigestion. This has been found useful upon more

> than 25 of my clients. I

> used 3 Fire Opals for treating these clients. I used

> to reactivate the Fire

> Opal through different methods of reactivation for

> usage of different

> clients.

>

> When something is not known, you do not discard all

> research or leave the

> subject. If all science worked in a similar fashion,

> there wouldn't be any

> science. If something is not known, we have to work

> harder to know it. I

> have close to 3000 clients in India and have

> specified gemstones to at least

> 60% of them. Only twice have I received a feedback

> contrary to my

> suggestions. I accept this feedback as another

> learning experience and try

> and see where I went wrong. I have specified and

> used some uncommon

> gemstones such as Rhodolite, Red Garnet, Citrine,

> Amethyst, Rose Quartz,

> Tourmaline - Green, Red, Chrome, etc, Chrysoberyl,

> Aquarmarine, Spinels,

> etc. I have also classified where and when to use

> them.

>

> Therefore, I ask users to show their frustration,

> but, do not dismiss this

> amazing subject just yet. A lot is yet to come.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

>

> On Jan 18, 2008 4:41 AM, Manoj Sharma

> <manojsharma662000 wrote:

>

> > Namaskar Sundeep Bhai,

> >

> > For quite some time, I have not posted anything on

> > this list though I read all the mails every

> morning.

> > However, after going through your predicament, I

> am

> > forced to share my experience with you.

> >

> > I have experimented with gems all throughout, and

> have

> > reached to a conclusion when it comes to gems,

> there

> > is more than what meets the eye. There is

> definitely

> > something beyond the horoscope. I can show you so

> many

> > cases when a particular planet was outright

> benefic as

> > per all canons of jyotish shashtras, still the gem

> > related to the benefic planet did not suit the

> native.

> > After all my exploration, I am more than convinced

> > that unless there is some kind of divine will, the

> gem

> > will not suit you. Astrology and astrologer may be

> > helpful, but both the elements are not the end-all

> > when it comes to have the gems suit you.

> >

> > This is not to cast any aspersions on the

> erudition of

> > any astrolger or gurus on this forums, but a fact

> I

> > just want the senior astrologers to brood over.

> > Whenever the gem does not suit a native, the

> > astrologers may either say, " oh, the gem you

> brought

> > may not have been of vedic quality " , or the

> 'muhurta

> > in which you wore the gem was not good, so the gem

> did

> > not suit you " . Now what is this " vedic quality

> gem " ?

> > The gem dealers will zap you with all kinds of

> jargon,

> > such as the gem should not be heat-treated, it

> should

> > not be processed, and the vedic gems are very

> costly,

> > so on and so forth.

> > Well, fine! Since in my case almost every

> astrologer

> > on the planet prescribes Blue Sapphire, I have

> tried

> > wearing Blue Sapphire so many times and everytime

> I

> > was left with disaster to face. And mind you the

> > adverse effect was given within couple of hours of

> > wearing the gem on every occasion. So this very

> senior

> > astrologer told me that " try a vedic quality gem " .

> I

> > contacted a gem dealer who has got quite a good

> > reputation, and got a Ble Sapphire for almost

> three

> > thousand US dollars. Belive me within three hours,

> it

> > gave me such a disastrous effect that I was

> dealing

> > with the aftermatch for almost three months. This

> left

> > me so disappointed.

> > When I narrate this to any astrologer, he

> immediately

> > whips out a pen and paper and starts coming out

> > several theories on why a Blue Sapphire won't suit

> me.

> > It surprises me no end...

> > Then somebody suggested you should wear Vedic

> quality

> > Ruby. And when I enquired about vedic quality

> Ruby, I

> > was told it would cost 7000 USD. I really do not

> get

> > this...

> > And mind you, my horoscope is correct, as my date

> of

> > birth is recorded as correctly as was humanly

> possible

> > during the era of my birth.

> >

> > Now, the following event happened about 10 years

> > before. One of my colleagues was looking for a

> Blue

> > Sapphire and since two carat Blue Sapphire was

> lying

> > with me, I gave it to him. This stone was not of

> very

> > inferior quality. I had got for Rs 600 per carat.

> I

> > gave him, but I was sure that " it won't suit him

> as

> > Blue Sapphire rarely suits anybody. " He wore that

> > stone and to my utter shock, within 10 days of

> wearing

> > the stone, he got a very fantastic break with a

> > popular channel in India. After ten years, he

> still

> > has the same Blue Sapphire and this guy is quite

> > famous as an English news anchor in India. My

> point is

> > this stone was not of " vedic quality " , and still

> it

> > pulled him up beyond his wildest dreams. What

> could be

> > reason? Is this whole claim of " vedic quality gem "

> is

> > just a marketing gimmick? Even if argument sake we

> > agree that to get tangible results, you need to

> have

> > vedic quality gems, my question is how many of us

> can

> > afford vedic quality gems?

> >

> > Against these facts, Sundeep Bhai, I want to

> request

> > you to please do not get into the reasons for

> which

> > the gem is not suiting you. Just accecpt the fact

> and

> > resort to 'mantra jap' to burn your bad karmas. I

> am

> > sure senior Gurus would hand-hold you on this...

>

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[Guest Vikram Rana]

Namaste.

 

 

My DOB is 26Mar1985

Time: 02:55 am

Place: Vadodara, Gujarat

 

I am wearing emerald in gold in right hand small finger.

 

Please if you can predict my marriage and future..

 

Thankyou..

 

Regards,

 

Vikram.