Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Dear Goelji and Mr. Nair, I have not seen that MKS planets are defunct (if we apply all the rules and some of them can cancel or mitigate). I have given some of the rules on my web blog. www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com Best wishes Zoran Radosavljevic sohamsa , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > Dear Mr. Nair, > MKS has a negative aspect in astrology. We already have a group of over 2000 members, out of which many members are new to this subject. > Due to this reason I do not wish to put over emphasis on this topic . > I am preparing some articles which more practise and instructive.I shall post them when they are ready > Regards, > > > G.K.GOEL > Ph: 09350311433 > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > NEW DELHI-110 076 > INDIA > > > > > sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala > > Wednesday, 2 April, 2008 12:29:06 AM > Re: Marana Karaka Stana (MKS) > > > hare rama krishna > dear goel ji > > It will b much appreciated if u can do a write up abt when planets in MKS become maraka or dangerous .And also what r the exceptions and riders for this concept ,As generaly 100 charts we test not even 10 charts we see this result is activ simply because of planets in MKS > > other wise in indira gandhi chart sat is 7th na 8th Lord and has naturaly has marka properites . > > i cant take correct ness of sonia ji chart and hence dasa . > > other wise i find rarely planets behav this way as terrised by any books .And also the kerala parampara which i belong which has unbroken tradition in astrology for 1000s of years has totaly rejected this concept . > > so i dont know how to take it . > > regrds sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Nair , Srinivasji and other destinguest members of the group, > > I appreciate your comments. Kindly consider following observations: > > 1 Sarvarth Chintamani and Jatak Parijat are classics of very outstanding merit, one can not ignore their ,as they are only 500 hundred > > years old. We must change this mind set.In last 400 years ,men have broken new grounds , which are unprecedented in human history. > > 2.Each planet in a house has many aspects , and they give variety of results in different circumstances and influences. > > 3.Marka sthana of planet is not bad IN ALL RESPECTS, but give adverse results in some specific conditions,which were mentioned in brief in my mail > > 4.Let us take the example of Bill gates. His Jupiter is angular lord , and aspecting most powerfull trinal house which is also 2nd huse from Karmapada.. > > DARA PADA IS FALLING IN 11TH HOUSE FROM WHERE 7h AND ITS LORD IS IN TRINE.. > > 5. Indra Gandhi had suffered max humiliation during her dasa of Saturn and even she was killed in this dasa. > > 6. Sonia Gandhi suffered extrema difficulties in her Saturn period ,in-spite of the fact two benefics were providing argala from 4h.. > > 7.Placement of Venus in 6H has its own merits as it aspects 12H.But if in adverse influence ,it can give some adverse results as listed > > in my mail. > > 8. The role of planets in Marka places do have adverse effects , but this does not mean that it blocks its other merits. > > I am applying these principles , and getting encouraging results. > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > Ph: 09350311433 > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > INDIA > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online at http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Rafal, Since it's BPHS, Can you Please give the Chapter and Shloka number, which will help to refer. Warm Regards Sanjay P On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 6:42 AM, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: kleem namah narasimhaaya > Dear Jyotishas , Namaskar > > Marana karaka sthana also is mentioned in second book of BPHS. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal > > > > Gopal Goel napisał(a): > > > > > > Dear Nair , Srinivasji and other destinguest members of the group, > > I appreciate your comments. Kindly consider following observations: > > 1 Sarvarth Chintamani and Jatak Parijat are classics of very outstanding > merit, one can not ignore their ,as they are only 500 hundred > > years old. We must change this mind set.In last 400 years ,men have broken > new grounds , which are unprecedented in human history. > > 2.Each planet in a house has many aspects , and they give variety of results > in different circumstances and influences. > > 3.Marka sthana of planet is not bad IN ALL RESPECTS, but give adverse > results in some specific conditions,which were mentioned in brief in my > mail > > 4.Let us take the example of Bill gates. His Jupiter is angular lord , and > aspecting most powerfull trinal house which is also 2nd huse from > Karmapada.. > > DARA PADA IS FALLING IN 11TH HOUSE FROM WHERE 7h AND ITS LORD IS IN TRINE.. > > 5. Indra Gandhi had suffered max humiliation during her dasa of Saturn and > even she was killed in this dasa. > > 6. Sonia Gandhi suffered extrema difficulties in her Saturn period ,in-spite > of the fact two benefics were providing argala from 4h.. > > 7.Placement of Venus in 6H has its own merits as it aspects 12H.But if in > adverse influence ,it can give some adverse results as listed > > in my mail. > > 8. The role of planets in Marka places do have adverse effects , but this > does not mean that it blocks its other merits. > > I am applying these principles , and getting encouraging results. > > Regards, > G.K.GOEL > Ph: 09350311433 > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > NEW DELHI-110 076 > INDIA > > > > > sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala > > Tuesday, 1 April, 2008 5:41:58 PM > Re: Marana Karaka Stana (MKS) > > Hare rama krishna > > dear Goel ji , > > > > Thanks for the post .But this is too much exaggeration of some principle > and jataka parijatha is not a very authoritive classic ( as it fall in > modern era means may be within some last 500 yrs but i am not a theoretician > as far as books are concerned ) > > > > I know many world leader has sani in lagna ,for eg - indira gandhi and > george bush > > > > Gandhi ji has sun in 12th and billgates has 7th Lord and 10th Lord guru in > 3rd and BV raman has 10th Lord mars in in 7th and so many i write which has > came in my mind . > > > > even knows so many memebrs in this grp has venus in 6th nad happily married > and no problems frm family side > > > > so can u explain with a chart and how can we see it > > > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sreeram srinivas " > <sreeram64@.. .> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Mr. Gopal Goel Saab ji, > > > > 1) This forum is for free expression - agree or disagreement is left to > > a person's discretion, so welcome you to disagree. Appreciate you > > modest statement. > > > > 2) I only said they promoted or emphasised MKS theory or point more than > > anyone, hence credits to them. > > > > 3) You have rightly mentioned that ... " Sun in 12th,Moon in 8th, Mars > > in 7th ,Mercury alone in 7th, Jupiter in 3rd, Venus in 6th Saturn in > > Lagna , and Rahu in 9th " > > > > 4) Question is why ?? Sun in 12H is not a maraka or bad. Jupiter in 3H > > - not a maraka. Ok let me put Sun in 12H in Gemini sign. Jupiter in 3H > > in Leo sign. Saturn in Lagna in Taurus. All of them are NOT in > > debilitation nor markas...then why they are NOT good ?? Let us also > > consider that all benefics in the horoscope are aspecting Sun or Jupiter > > & Saturn, with NONE of the planets in Mrityubhaga, further they are in > > Yuva Awasta. Then ?? > > > > Should they still give bad results ?? > > > > 5) If you look into Mr. Sunil's explanation based on the karatwa of each > > house, and the planets placement there...it souds logical. > > > > 6) Mr. Gopal Goel saab, classics have all mentioned more or less same, > > but with different perspectives, the discussion that we are doing is > > why & where the rishi's disagreed and to explore that reasons. > > > > Thank you following the thread and your inputs. > > > > With regards, > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Gopal Goel > > gkgoel1937@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. Name is ego, > > > Kind attention : Mr. Sreenivas ji, > > > I do not wish to contradict any person's view. > > > MKS IS NOT THE THEORY PROPOUNDED BY JHORA GROUP , BUT THEY ARE USING > > IT AS THIS GIVES RESULTS: > > > KINDLY refer Ch 17 Slokas 34 t0 36. OF JATAK PARIJAT ;the gist of > > dicta is as under: > > > The following planets , if in debility,inimical sign or being conjunct > > with a malefic, become Maaraka.The conjunction of malefic gives > > difficulties and if this malefic is in its inmical or debilitation sign > > , will give immense problems. > > Sun in 12th,Moon in 8th, Mars in 7th ,Mercury alone in 7th, Jupiter in > > 3rd, Venus in 6th Saturn in Lagna , and Rahu in 9th. > > > A maarka planet confers one or more of the following results: > > > 1.Shame 2.Disease 3. Sorrow 4.Fear and Grief 5 Miseries 6. Humiliation > > 7. Calumny 8.Death > > > > > > These rules will also be applicable if planet is in its Mirtyu Bhaga. > > > Similarly , sloka 48 of Ch 2 of Jatak Parijat, says that Badhaka > > planets will yield to bad results if it is also a Khar planet or > > depositor of Mandi. > > > Khar PLANET IS the lord of 22nd drekkana. > > > These rules do work in actual practise. > > > Regards, > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > > > ________________________________ > Share files, take polls, and discuss your passions - all under one roof. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Sanjay , Namaskar I think Ive mistaken it with badhaka concept which is in 52.20 (chara dasa). I will look for it more later. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Sanjay Prabhakaran napisał(a): || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Rafal, Since it's BPHS, Can you Please give the Chapter and Shloka number, which will help to refer. Warm Regards Sanjay P On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 6:42 AM, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: kleem namah narasimhaaya > Dear Jyotishas , Namaskar > > Marana karaka sthana also is mentioned in second book of BPHS. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > Gopal Goel napisał(a): > > > > > > Dear Nair , Srinivasji and other destinguest members of the group, > > I appreciate your comments. Kindly consider following observations: > > 1 Sarvarth Chintamani and Jatak Parijat are classics of very outstanding > merit, one can not ignore their ,as they are only 500 hundred > > years old. We must change this mind set.In last 400 years ,men have broken > new grounds , which are unprecedented in human history. > > 2.Each planet in a house has many aspects , and they give variety of results > in different circumstances and influences. > > 3.Marka sthana of planet is not bad IN ALL RESPECTS, but give adverse > results in some specific conditions,which were mentioned in brief in my > mail > > 4.Let us take the example of Bill gates. His Jupiter is angular lord , and > aspecting most powerfull trinal house which is also 2nd huse from > Karmapada.. > > DARA PADA IS FALLING IN 11TH HOUSE FROM WHERE 7h AND ITS LORD IS IN TRINE.. > > 5. Indra Gandhi had suffered max humiliation during her dasa of Saturn and > even she was killed in this dasa. > > 6. Sonia Gandhi suffered extrema difficulties in her Saturn period ,in-spite > of the fact two benefics were providing argala from 4h.. > > 7.Placement of Venus in 6H has its own merits as it aspects 12H.But if in > adverse influence ,it can give some adverse results as listed > > in my mail. > > 8. The role of planets in Marka places do have adverse effects , but this > does not mean that it blocks its other merits. > > I am applying these principles , and getting encouraging results. > > Regards, > G.K.GOEL > Ph: 09350311433 > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > NEW DELHI-110 076 > INDIA > > > > > sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tuesday, 1 April, 2008 5:41:58 PM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Marana Karaka Stana (MKS) > > Hare rama krishna > > dear Goel ji , > > > > Thanks for the post .But this is too much exaggeration of some principle > and jataka parijatha is not a very authoritive classic ( as it fall in > modern era means may be within some last 500 yrs but i am not a theoretician > as far as books are concerned ) > > > > I know many world leader has sani in lagna ,for eg - indira gandhi and > george bush > > > > Gandhi ji has sun in 12th and billgates has 7th Lord and 10th Lord guru in > 3rd and BV raman has 10th Lord mars in in 7th and so many i write which has > came in my mind . > > > > even knows so many memebrs in this grp has venus in 6th nad happily married > and no problems frm family side > > > > so can u explain with a chart and how can we see it > > > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sreeram srinivas" > <sreeram64@. . .> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Mr. Gopal Goel Saab ji, > > > > 1) This forum is for free expression - agree or disagreement is left to > > a person's discretion, so welcome you to disagree. Appreciate you > > modest statement. > > > > 2) I only said they promoted or emphasised MKS theory or point more than > > anyone, hence credits to them. > > > > 3) You have rightly mentioned that ..." Sun in 12th,Moon in 8th, Mars > > in 7th ,Mercury alone in 7th, Jupiter in 3rd, Venus in 6th Saturn in > > Lagna , and Rahu in 9th" > > > > 4) Question is why ?? Sun in 12H is not a maraka or bad. Jupiter in 3H > > - not a maraka. Ok let me put Sun in 12H in Gemini sign. Jupiter in 3H > > in Leo sign. Saturn in Lagna in Taurus. All of them are NOT in > > debilitation nor markas...then why they are NOT good ?? Let us also > > consider that all benefics in the horoscope are aspecting Sun or Jupiter > > & Saturn, with NONE of the planets in Mrityubhaga, further they are in > > Yuva Awasta. Then ?? > > > > Should they still give bad results ?? > > > > 5) If you look into Mr. Sunil's explanation based on the karatwa of each > > house, and the planets placement there...it souds logical. > > > > 6) Mr. Gopal Goel saab, classics have all mentioned more or less same, > > but with different perspectives, the discussion that we are doing is > > why & where the rishi's disagreed and to explore that reasons. > > > > Thank you following the thread and your inputs. > > > > With regards, > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Gopal Goel > > gkgoel1937@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. Name is ego, > > > Kind attention : Mr. Sreenivas ji, > > > I do not wish to contradict any person's view. > > > MKS IS NOT THE THEORY PROPOUNDED BY JHORA GROUP , BUT THEY ARE USING > > IT AS THIS GIVES RESULTS: > > > KINDLY refer Ch 17 Slokas 34 t0 36. OF JATAK PARIJAT ;the gist of > > dicta is as under: > > > The following planets , if in debility,inimical sign or being conjunct > > with a malefic, become Maaraka.The conjunction of malefic gives > > difficulties and if this malefic is in its inmical or debilitation sign > > , will give immense problems. > > Sun in 12th,Moon in 8th, Mars in 7th ,Mercury alone in 7th, Jupiter in > > 3rd, Venus in 6th Saturn in Lagna , and Rahu in 9th. > > > A maarka planet confers one or more of the following results: > > > 1.Shame 2.Disease 3. Sorrow 4.Fear and Grief 5 Miseries 6. Humiliation > > 7. Calumny 8.Death > > > > > > These rules will also be applicable if planet is in its Mirtyu Bhaga. > > > Similarly , sloka 48 of Ch 2 of Jatak Parijat, says that Badhaka > > planets will yield to bad results if it is also a Khar planet or > > depositor of Mandi. > > > Khar PLANET IS the lord of 22nd drekkana. > > > These rules do work in actual practise. > > > Regards, > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Share files, take polls, and discuss your passions - all under one roof. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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