Guest guest Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 om gurave namah Dear Nitish, Even the thought about non-existance of Kshetra apart from Knower is a vasana only and a prove of mental intermediary. Mind is not needed for atma to know the body. The process is reversed-conditioned soul-Jiva needs the mind: " On the Truth, inculcated above (258,259,260…), one must oneself meditate in one's mind, through the intellect, by means of the recognized arguments. By that means one will realize the truth free from doubt " . (Viveka Chudamani) So Adishankara was in a need of a mind as omniscient Atma doesn`t know for the differences between two bodies nor between body and soul. If there wasn`t for his mind he would never be in a need of entering another body. Atman doesn`t know for motion or immobility. This impression belongs to mind. So Moon-Rahu is not new but is still very important duality. Do in our contemplating on Atma we need to focus mind on lagna-body or to Sun as Jiva. Who created who? Is body (read koshas, please) the cause of Jiva or Jiva creates body? How your understanding of Gita will help us in understanding AK? We are getting motion (both retrograde and direct, with or without reference) in both cases as motion is the nature of mind itself. This very impression of motion is the one that has to be transcended in realizing Atma. If your suggested thesis on motion and AK should answered anything it should be this - in what way perceived retrogression influences mind in realizing Atma. At least it should give us s a clue is it in a positive or negative way. If Mars is the one who links soul to body should we change karaka for longevity now also? Warm regards, Tijana sohamsa , " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya wrote: > > || OM TAT SAT || > Dear Tijana, > > T: It does actually. For one cannot exist without the other. > Tell me one manifestation of Prakriti, for which there is no > dualistic opposite present. > > > T: The motion of Sun and Moon as far as ZODIAC is concerned is > > reference motion, or one pole if you like it. > Just like on a number line, neither +ve nor -ve numbers are a > reference in themselves, but still we prefer to use +ve numbers for > general measurement scales, So is the motion of Sun and Moon a > " nature-ally " preferred reference in Jyotish. > Its a reference for measurement purposes only, because if it were > an absolute reference, then a retrograde motion would not be > conceivable i.e. would not exist in meaning or influence. Now, > Rahu-Ketu go against this " nature-ally " preferred reference, so they > tend to evade nature by their own ways and means (Rahu evades > Moon/mind, and Ketu evades Sun/intellect). > > > T: As long as we are clear on the objective, reference can be set > > easily. What you are forgetting is the perspective. You are using > > geocentric view in your definition of motion of Sun, Moon and Rahu > > which is used for the motion seen from the Earth-direct or > > retrograde and will hardly do for AK. Motion is the perspective of > > lagna and is a concept of mind. Unpolarized reference when motion > > in general is concerned is Sun. Moon which links body (lagna) to > > Atma is one pole or direct motion and Rahu is another pole- > > retrograde motion. > For an earthly objective, geocentric is the correct view. > Anycentric view wouldn't change the definition of clockwise/anti- > clockwise motion. What will do for AK? > Sun-Moon and Rahu-Ketu are natural dualities, so lets not define > Moon-Rahu yoga as a newfound duality. > In general, One who thinks that Moon links body to Atma, should > revise his fundamentals by reading up Gita. With body as Kshetra, > Atma is Kshetragya - implying that with the strength of Atma alone > the kshetra is controlled (i.e. no mental intermediary is required > for atma to know the body). This strength of atma is seen from Mars, > thus from the knowledge given by Mars alone does ones' soul link to > his body. > Otherwise, it would become difficult for " Adi shankaracharya " , to > prove that he actually entered the body of a dead king because in his > case, at one point of time during the migration, neither the body of > king nor the Atma of Shankara would be in need of a mind before the > body/kshetra was found by his omni-scient Atma. So, Mars is the > strength of the body by virtue of soul and not by virtue of mind. > Moon is the changeability of mind by virtue of soul and not by virtue > of body and so on. > > > T: Another form of polarization? I`ve expected much deeper > > observation from you. If you expect someone to open for the > > enlightenment, you must try better than this. > Everybody holds the key to his own enlightenment. You should also > read up Gita as your Sun goes to Pushya . > > regards, > Nitish > > sohamsa , " Tijana > Damjanovic " <tijanadamjanovic@> wrote: > > > > om gurave namah > > > > Dear Nitish, > > Comments bellow... > > > > sohamsa , " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya@> wrote: > > > > > > || OM TAT SAT || > > > Dear Tijana, > > > In dualistic prakriti, no single unpolarized reference point > > > exists! > > > > T: It does actually. For one cannot exist without the other. > Prakriti > > is defined with time, space and causation with motion along the +/- > > axis. If there wasn`t for zero point one could not become the other. > > Power to achieve tranquility-equality and to brake it with +/- > motion > > are both inseparable from her nature. > > > > What you call as retrogression or direct motions - cause > > > polarization of forces in opposite directions - none being > > > unpolarized. > > > > T: The motion of Sun and Moon as far as ZODIAC is concerned is > > reference motion, or one pole if you like it. > > > > In absence of an unpolarized reference (motion or > > > position) in prakriti, there is only relative definition of > > > polarization, whether you count signs or degrees and so on. > > > > T: As long as we are clear on the objective, reference can be set > > easily. What you are forgetting is the perspective. You are using > > geocentric view in your definition of motion of Sun, Moon and Rahu > > which is used for the motion seen from the Earth-direct or > retrograde > > and will hardly do for AK. Motion is the perspective of lagna and > is a > > concept of mind. Unpolarized reference when motion in general is > > concerned is Sun. Moon which links body (lagna) to Atma is one pole > or > > direct motion and Rahu is another pole-retrograde motion. > > > Please keep your mind open, rather than getting stubborn about > what > > > you have been taught earlier - which is another form of > polarization. > > T: Another form of polarization? I`ve expected much deeper > observation > > from you. If you expect someone to open for the enlightenment, you > > must try better than this. > > > > If you reply to this mail, send your chart details also. > > > > T: Kindly note-July 30th 1978; 12: 10 pm; TZ +1; 19E6 45N46 > > > regards, > > > Nitish > > > > Warm regards, > > Tijana > > > > > sohamsa , " Tijana > > > Damjanovic " <tijanadamjanovic@> wrote: > > > > > > > > om gurave namah > > > > Dear Nitish, > > > > Motion that is not changing will not cause polarization. To > define > > > > polarization on the basis of motion you need a reference motion. > > > > Zodiac is defined on the basis of Sun and Moon, so also the > zodiacal > > > > movement or succession-be it of degrees or signs. Polarization > can > > > > only be caused by retrogression. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " yeeahoo_99 " <nitish.arya@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > || OM TAT SAT || > > > > > Dear Anand, > > > > > Ok, lets understand this correctly. Don't expect people > with > > > Rahu > > > > > AK to be spiritual only because of 5,7,9 drishti, because > that > > > would > > > > > imply that those with Jupiter AK are also spiritual by > default. > > > > > Spirituality has nothing to do with drishti of planets, > otherwise > > > > > Ketu would also have it. Right? > > > > > > > > > > 1. Spiritual karma, unless carried over from past life, dawns > > > fastest > > > > > to people with Su,Mo,Ra AK because their motion never changes > > > > > direction, causing a gross polarity to develop in the Zodiac > and > > > > > aggregate over time, making them face severe cicumstances > that > > > > > require them to seek inwards for balance. > > > > > > > > > > 2. Next, (refer autobiography of a yogi " by yogananda), > nature is > > > > > dualistic which means there is no absolute reality to this > > > phenomenal > > > > > world, and the seeming reality is caused by an equation of > > > opposite > > > > > polarities. So, in all natural sciences, there is a > mathematical > > > > > equation of balance: -ve pole = +ve pole > > > > > while there is no individual reality of -ve and +ve pole. > They > > > are > > > > > better still replaceable by a single substratum of absolute > > > reality > > > > > i.e. Brahman. > > > > > > > > > > 3. Since AQ,CP signs are naturally in 2-12 relation, they > bring a > > > > > person faster to spiritual realisations, if they are linked > with > > > AK- > > > > > Ishta devata scheme in Navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > Hope it is clear. > > > > > regards, > > > > > Nitish > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " Anand Ravi " <anandravi8@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namah Shivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nitish, Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu has the same Drishti as Jupiter so people with Rahu as > AK > > > can > > > > > be very > > > > > > spiritual, Which is true in most of the charts I have seen. > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont understand exactly what you are saying in your below > > > email. > > > > > Can you > > > > > > please > > > > > > explain in detail, in layman's language. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rgds > > > > > > Anand > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 10:33 AM, yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > || OM TAT SAT || > > > > > > > Dear Anand, > > > > > > > Karakamsa is a lagna of CharaKaraka i.e. AK, so Karaka > itself > > > is a > > > > > > > reference by position to a specific Navamsa which is > > > important. > > > > > It is > > > > > > > a rashi which allows us to count in succession (in either > > > > > direction) > > > > > > > and thus relate to the 360 degree. > > > > > > > The fundamental principle of Nature is Duality, > therefore, > > > > > counting > > > > > > > in succession is both zodiacal and anti-zodiacal. In the > > > scheme of > > > > > > > charakaraka, based on the direction in which the planet > is > > > > > moving, we > > > > > > > count their degree strength in D-1 and Ishta devata sign > in D- > > > 9. > > > > > > > Similarly, AK-Ishta devata are but representatives of > > > dualistic or > > > > > > > polarized philosophy. The lesser the polarity, the more > > > evolved > > > > > the > > > > > > > soul. Thus, people like Ramakrishna Paramahama, > Paramhamsa > > > > > Yogananda, > > > > > > > Therese Neumann etc. with AK-Ishta along AQ,CP are highly > > > evolved > > > > > > > souls. > > > > > > > So, it would be a grave mistake, if we get biased by > opinions > > > and > > > > > > > interpretations which don't fulfill the conditions > imposed > > > upon > > > > > > > mortals by the natures' law of duality. You can apply it > and > > > see > > > > > for > > > > > > > yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Nitish > > > > > > > sohamsa > <sohamsa%40>, > > > > > " Anand Ravi " > > > > > > > <anandravi8@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namah Shivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nitish, Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Noted your defination for drishti. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. So now you say it should be 12th rasi and not the > planet > > > > > placed > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > 12th house from > > > > > > > > AK. Is there any dictum to it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. You mean to say retro planets does not know which is > > > clock > > > > > and > > > > > > > anti-clock > > > > > > > > direction? Correct? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward your reply. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rgds > > > > > > > > Anand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:26 PM, yeeahoo_99 > <nitish.arya@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || OM TAT SAT || > > > > > > > > > Dear Michal and Ravi, > > > > > > > > > What doesn't seem right in Ke as ishta devata, please > > > > > elaborate > > > > > > > > > your question? > > > > > > > > > Jupiter and Ketu positioned in Leo in the > constellation > > > of Ke > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > ishta devata is sufficient to give headship and > > > following, > > > > > and GK > > > > > > > > > Jupiter would show that he started off in adverse > > > > > cicumstances. > > > > > > > > > Do you have Saturn AK Michal? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anand > > > > > > > > > 1. Drishti is a function of longitude WRT longitude > of > > > the > > > > > planet > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > not the direction in which it is moving. Drishti of > > > retrograde > > > > > > > > > planets therefore stays very much the same. > > > > > > > > > 2. You needn't worry about the retrograde planet in > 12th > > > from > > > > > AK, > > > > > > > > > because the ishta has to do with the 12th Rashi from > > > karakamsa > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > than the planets in 12th. Reason: because rashi > controls > > > the > > > > > karma > > > > > > > > > that is being manifested from the souls' repository > of > > > karma, > > > > > as > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > ND rashi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > Nitish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > > <sohamsa%40> > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > > > 40>, Michal > > > > > > > > > Dziwulski <nearmichal@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nitish, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How about the chart of Srila Prabhupad - Rahu > > > Atmakaraka > > > > > with > > > > > > > Sun > > > > > > > > > and Moon in the 12th. What you are proposing would > make > > > > > Scorpio > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > focus with Mars and Ketu as the lords. Just doesn't > seem > > > right > > > > > > > huh? > > > > > > > > > What are your thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya@> > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > <sohamsa%40> > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > > > 40> > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, April 1, 2008 4:58:23 AM > > > > > > > > > > (ishta devata) Re: Re: JAI > > > SRIKRISHNA TO > > > > > ALL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || OM TAT SAT || > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti and Sanjayji, > > > > > > > > > > In case of retrograde planets including Rahu Ishta > > > devata > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > > be seen from 2nd from AK in D-9. That way you won't > > > need to > > > > > > > worry > > > > > > > > > > about why Ramakrishna Paramahamsa worshipped Kali > or > > > why > > > > > Therese > > > > > > > > > > Neumann (with AK Ra in Cp in 12th from D-9 asc.) > was a > > > > > famous > > > > > > > saint > > > > > > > > > > just like Vivekananda (with AK Su in Sg in 2nd from > D-9 > > > > > asc.). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Likewise, as your AK is Rahu you should worship > ishta > > > > > devata as > > > > > > > > > > seen from Sa+Su combination in Leo in your D-9 asc. > > > Similar > > > > > is > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > case of Sanjayji, with retrograde Saturn as AK in > Virgo > > > in > > > > > D-9, > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > ishta devata should be seen from Libra and he is so > > > famous > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > clarity of his writings in Me Mahadasha which is in > the > > > > > star of > > > > > > > > > Ishta > > > > > > > > > > devata sign lord Venus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dharma devata also changes accordingly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You will find that not everyone has a natural > liking > > > for > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > > >Ishta Devata and this can depend on other factors > such > > > as > > > > > Ketu, > > > > > > > > > > >Rasi, Vimsamsa, etc. I.e. Ramakrishna Paramahamsa > > > preferred > > > > > > > Kali > > > > > > > > > > >over Rama in his worship, yet he had very deep > > > spiritual > > > > > > > > > experiences > > > > > > > > > > >which can only be attributed to the Ishta devata/ > > > Paramatma. > > > > > > > > > > >So we do use aspects, but only when we wanto lead > the > > > > > person to > > > > > > > > > > >the Ishta Devata through a Devata they may prefer > more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ofcourse, it will take time to adjust to the new > ishta > > > > > devata, > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > in case you have different views, we can always > > > discuss. > > > > > Hope > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > clears " now widespread " misunderstanding . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Nitish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Visti Larsen > <visti@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sharat, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > The rule you quote about the Ishta Devata is from > > > VRA, > > > > > but is > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > half > > > > > > > > > > > right i must say. However, your confusion is > > > justified > > > > > and i > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > explain why the rule of aspects has been omitted > by > > > > > Freedom > > > > > > > Cole > > > > > > > > > > in his > > > > > > > > > > > lectures. I have personally taught this to my > > > students > > > > > 'off > > > > > > > > > > session' as > > > > > > > > > > > it can give rise to alot of confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let there be no doubt that the planets placed in > the > > > 12th > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > karakamsa, or if none, the lord of 12th from the > > > > > karakamsa is > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Ishta > > > > > > > > > > > Devata. This is the REAL form of the Ishta Devata > and > > > how > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > person > > > > > > > > > > > looks at God in their lives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, the aspect of planets on the 12th from > > > karakamsa > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > useful in > > > > > > > > > > > understanding whether the person can be LED to > the > > > Ishta > > > > > > > Devata > > > > > > > > > > through > > > > > > > > > > > another Devata. You will find that not everyone > has a > > > > > natural > > > > > > > > > > liking for > > > > > > > > > > > their Ishta Devata and this can depend on other > > > factors > > > > > such > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > Ketu, > > > > > > > > > > > Rasi, Vimsamsa, etc. I.e. Ramakrishna Paramahamsa > > > > > preferred > > > > > > > Kali > > > > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > > > > Rama in his worship, yet he had very deep > spiritual > > > > > > > experiences > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > can only be attributed to the Ishta devata/ > Paramatma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So we do use aspects, but only when we wanto lead > the > > > > > person > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > Ishta Devata through a Devata they may prefer > more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope this clears things. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > > > > > email: visti@ <visti@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > For consultations and articles visit: http:// > > > srigaruda. > > > > > com > > > > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sharat wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjay jis rule as I seem to understand is: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. First consider the planet in the bhava > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. If no planet then strongest aspect by rasi > > > drishti > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. If none, then take the Lord of the Bhava > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There does seem to be an opinion that Lord of > the > > > Bhava > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > considered > > > > > > > > > > > > over the Rasi drishti, as you rightly point > out. > > > > > Perhaps one > > > > > > > > > > needs to > > > > > > > > > > > > examine the D20 chart to see which is stronger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also meant to ask whether you had some > resolution > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > query > > > > > > > > > > > > regarding Gemstone use when planets are in > > > conjunction > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > parivartan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I did not get any reposne to my query. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > ** vedicastrostudent <vedicastros > > > tudent@ .> > > > > > > > > > > > > *To:* sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > <sohamsa@ .com> > > > > > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:23 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: JAI SRIKRISHNA TO ALL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soulsadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > I know your question was to Swee, but I heard a > > > couple > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > audios - > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps it was Freedom Cole's (Vyasa SJC) - in > > > which > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > discussed. He said that you consider the > strongest > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > > IN > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > house as the Ishta. If there is none, I think > what > > > > > Sanjay > > > > > > > > > > Rathji had > > > > > > > > > > > > said was that the planets having rasi dristi > (not > > > graha > > > > > > > > > > dristi) to > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th (from AK Navamsa) will lead you to your > Ishta. > > > > > > > > > However, > > > > > > > > > > Freedom > > > > > > > > > > > > said that the lord of the 12th from AK Navamsa > still > > > > > > > > > > signifies your > > > > > > > > > > > > Ishta (even though those having rasi dristi may > > > lead > > > > > you to > > > > > > > > > > it). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In general, to those who dont know, I have > found the > > > > > > > > > > recordings at > > > > > > > > > > > > Freedom's, Visti's and PVR's sites to be very > > > useful.. > > > > > Here > > > > > > > > > > is the > > > > > > > > > > > > one you ask about: http://shrifreedom. com/ > VyasaSJC/ > > > > > > > > > > California.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://shrifreedom. com/VyasaSJC/ California. > htm> > > > > > > > > > > > > look at the 25 September 2005 recordings (I > think) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > <sohamsa% <sohamsa%25> <sohamsa%25> > > > 40. > > > > > com>, > > > > > > > > > > > > " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please can you advise if there is no planet > in > > > the > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > > concerned > > > > > > > > > > > > > (wrt ID, PD or DD)what do we best consider: > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. lord of the house > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. strongest plaent having graha drishti on > that > > > house > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. strongest planet having rasi drishti on > that > > > house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > <sohamsa% <sohamsa%25> <sohamsa%25> > > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > > Swee Chan > > > > > > > > > <sweechan@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Deepak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No to both; Moon is in 3rd pada Punarvasu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Navamsa, the 12th from AK is Ishta > Devata > > > and > > > > > Palana > > > > > > > > > > Devata > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AmK also in Navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/25/06 4:20 AM, " DEEPAK > > > MODI " <deepakmodi4@ > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TASMAI SRIGURUVE NAMAH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RESPECTED SWEEJEE, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CHARANAARVINDE, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your teachings, I want to know > that > > > > > > > > > whether > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > kundali is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > afflicted by " MAHAPDMA KAALSARP YOG " or > > > " ARDHA > > > > > CHANDRA > > > > > > > > > > > > > YOG " .Please shed more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > light on Istha devata and Palan > devata,the > > > > > difference > > > > > > > > > > or if > > > > > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > > > link to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know more about them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with deep respect, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deepak > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Swee Chan <sweechan@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > <sohamsa% <sohamsa%25> <sohamsa%25> > > > > > 40. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Sohamsa <sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > <sohamsa% <sohamsa%25> <sohamsa%25> > > > > > 40. com>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Re: JAI SRIKRISHNA TO > ALL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Sat, 23 Dec 2006 18:55:05 +0200 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Dear Deepak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I see nothing of your worst fears. There > is a > > > > > > > > > > position in Tai > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chi called > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> " The Beauteous Hand " - that is to yield > if > > > one > > > > > > > > > cannot > > > > > > > > > > fight > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > forces > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> beyond our control. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Friends will possibly leave you, or you > may > > > be > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > prone to > > > > > > > > > > > > > short > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> temperedness which depletes you of > energy > > > (you > > > > > > > > > > naturally have > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > pitta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> condition as it is). Health may > deteriorate > > > > > > > > > > further.... Co- > > > > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sani as the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> is badhakesh traversing in the 5th. > Often > > > times, > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > turns to > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhakti > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> because > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> of external marauding nature especially > > > being let > > > > > > > > > > down by > > > > > > > > > > > > > friends etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Palana devata is Moon. - " Om Krsnaya > Namah " - > > > - > > > > > check > > > > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > > > > > archives for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> mantars related to this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Jay Sr Krishna, Jay Sri Radhe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Love, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On 12/23/06 6:14 PM, " DEEPAK > > > > > MODI " <deepakmodi4@ > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> JAI JAGANNATH SWAMI NAYANPATH GAAMI > BHAVA > > > TUME > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Dear Respected Sweejee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Charanaarvinde > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Firstly many many Thanks for your quick > > > reply > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > advices > > > > > > > > > > > > > about my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> horoscope.Secondly purchasing a yellow > > > sapphire > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > a yellow > > > > > > > > > > > > > diamond is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> a too much costly job for me, any > > > substitute - > > > > > > > > > > please guide > > > > > > > > > > > > me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> please tell me about what kind of > " worst " I > > > 'll > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > to face > > > > > > > > > > > > > while > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Saturn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> retrogrades and Rahu in Badhaksthaan, > may > > > be > > > > > Death > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > accidents to me or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> spouse or children (a Daughter born on > 12th > > > > > > > > > nov.2000 > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > 15:53 > > > > > > > > > > > > > pm cuttack > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> a son born on 28th nov 2002 at 11:53 am > > > > > cuttack). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> I was suffering from " Shani- > shadhesaati " > > > and I > > > > > lost > > > > > > > > > > almost > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> with deep respect, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Deepak modi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Swee Chan <sweechan@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > <sohamsa% <sohamsa%25> <sohamsa%25> > > > > > 40. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Sohamsa <sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > > > <sohamsa% <sohamsa%25> <sohamsa%25> > > > > > 40. com>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Re: JAI SRIKRISHNA > TO > > > ALL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Sat, 23 Dec 2006 11:55:41 +0200 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Dear Deepak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Namaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> A yellow sapphire, no less. Yellow > > > > > > > > > > diamondâEUR^( TM)s best to > > > > > > > > > > > > quell > > > > > > > > > > > > > transits > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> unsavoury natal placements of both > Saturn > > > and > > > > > Rahu > > > > > > > > > > who are > > > > > > > > > > > > > involved in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> tug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> of war. Worse is yet to come when > Saturn > > > > > > > > > > retrogrades and > > > > > > > > > > > > > transit Rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> currently in badhakstana. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Planets in lagna are involved in a > paapa > > > > > kartari > > > > > > > > > > âEUR " a > > > > > > > > > > > > > negative aspect > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Love, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> On 12/23/06 10:29 AM, > > > > > " dpk_modi " <deepakmodi4@ > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Dear Sweejee,Sanjayjee & All > respected > > > jees of > > > > > > > > > > " SOHAMSA > > > > > > > > > > > > > GROUP " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> " Charaanarbinde to all " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> I am Deepak Modi D.O.B.-04thMay1968 > time > > > > > 05:30 am > > > > > > > > > > > > > long.:85E56 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> and lati.:20N26 (INDIA,ORISSA/ > CUTTACK), > > > newly > > > > > > > > > > joined The > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sohamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Groups. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> I am feeling very proud and lucky to > be a > > > > > small > > > > > > > > > > part of > > > > > > > > > > > > > SOHAMSA.Though > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> I am also interested in astrology and > > > likewise > > > > > > > > > > activities > > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > > want that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> you all Respected and learned members > of > > > > > SOHAMSA, > > > > > > > > > > accept > > > > > > > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > > > > > > as part of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> the group.I will be very much > obelidged > > > for > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > kind > > > > > > > > > > > > > acceptance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> May i request you all members to > please > > > kindly > > > > > > > > > > look in my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> horoscope and advice me what to do or > > > what > > > > > not to > > > > > > > > > > do. I am > > > > > > > > > > > > > in building > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> construction business now. what RATNA > > > should I > > > > > > > > > > wear to get > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> blessings of benefic GRAHAS ? OR ANY > > > remedies > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > > > > adopt > > > > > > > > > > > > > to please > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> my benefic GRAHAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> With Deep Respect, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Deepak Modi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ > > > _________ > > > > > > > > > _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Stay in tune with the latest styles! > Check > > > out > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > happening > > > > > > > > > > > > > fashion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> trends > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> on 'Wardrobe watch'. Only on MSN > Lifestyle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://content. msn.co.in/ Lifestyle/ > > > Moreonlifestyle/ > > > > > > > > > > LifeStyle_091006_ 0 > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://content. msn.co.in/ Lifestyle/ > > > Moreonlifestyle/ > > > > > > > > > > LifeStyle_091006_ 0> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 551.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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