Guest guest Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Dear List, The other day I did a reading for a lady whom I had never met before. The birth data is August 5th, 1969, 2:01 am., at Canberra, Australia (149E13, 35S17) zone -10. I found that I made a lot of mistakes in interpretation of her chart, and found it disappointing that I could not seem to zero in on her issues and give correct past predictions. For example, I had predicted that she may not have had a good relationship with her mother or that she had early separation from her mother. Turns out, that was not the case at all, and she said she had a very close relationship with her mother. I saw karaka Moon in 12th house with debilitated badhaka lord Shani, and also 4th lord Sun in the 3rd (12th from 4th). The 4th house itself is afflicted by the Rahu/Ketu axis. Even the 4th house and its lord from Arudha lagna are afflicted. Can anyone say where I went wrong? I also completely missed that she had just had major back surgery when she asked if I could see any recent major events in her life. Raja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Vyasadeva, Namaskar. Why not differentiate between Venus and Moon? Parasara has also said that Venus can show the mother, whilst Saturn can show the father. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti vaysadeva1008 skrev: Hello Visti ji we can also treat mars as matri karka being stronger then moon. regard sohamsa , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ????? > Dear Raja, Namaskar. > With Arudha Lagna in Cancer, mother is likely to be a strong support for > the native. Yet, there could have been issues faced by the mother > herself. See that the fourth house has an afflicted Mercury (relatives > or work), and that the Moon is in the ninth therefrom. So problems with > elders (ninth house) and particularly this mothers uncles or something > similar (uncles = mercury) could have arisen due to this combination. > This is mothers-uncle. Mercury cursed (rahu and ketu afflicts it) also > gives job issues in some form or manor and generally due to lack of > appreciation by co-workers and employers. > > Did you notice that Venus is aspected by Saturn, Rahu and Mars? This is > most relevant, and as Venus is in the twelfth from the Atmakaraka (AK) > it can cause bandhana/bondage. This can give long term physical > confinement due to the placement in 12th from AK. > Venus is the sixth lord for Taurus lagna and can cause this to be due to > some disease, deformity, etc. This will happen either in the upper back > (gemini - between shoulder blades) or on the right eye (Venus in first > drekkana in second house). Since eighth lord Jupiter aspects Venus this > is likely to be the former, i.e. Gemini and between the shoulder blades. > Operation arises from Mars associated with the twelfth house > (doctors/recovery) and with the curse. Here Mars aspects Venus and is > the 12th lord. > > Without an accurate Shastyamsa (d60) i cannot be sure of the timing, but > my assumption is that this could have happened either in Mars Mula Dasa > or Rahu Mula dasa. > > Moola Dasa (dasa showing the root of events - past karma): > Maha Dasas: > Merc: 1969-08-05 (2:01:00 am) - 1985-08-05 (4:20:01 am) > Ket: 1985-08-05 (4:20:01 am) - 1989-08-05 (4:54:03 am) > * Mars: 1989-08-05 (4:54:03 am) - 1991-08-05 (5:12:35 pm) > Rah: 1991-08-05 (5:12:35 pm) - 1997-08-05 (6:09:39 am) > * Moon: 1997-08-05 (6:09:39 am) - 2006-08-05 (1:21:60 pm) > Sat: 2006-08-05 (1:21:60 pm) - 2016-08-05 (3:03:58 am) > Sun: 2016-08-05 (3:03:58 am) - 2021-08-05 (9:45:24 am) > Jup: 2021-08-05 (9:45:24 am) - 2034-08-05 (5:37:41 pm) > Ven: 2034-08-05 (5:37:41 pm) - 2050-08-05 (8:02:20 pm) > Merc: 2050-08-05 (8:02:20 pm) - 2051-08-06 (2:12:29 am) > Ket: 2051-08-06 (2:12:29 am) - 2054-08-05 (8:33:14 pm) > Mars: 2054-08-05 (8:33:14 pm) - 2059-08-06 (3:22:14 am) > Rah: 2059-08-06 (3:22:14 am) - 2071-08-06 (5:04:56 am) > Moon: 2071-08-06 (5:04:56 am) - 2072-08-05 (11:24:04 am) > Sat: 2072-08-05 (11:24:04 am) - 2081-08-05 (6:36:06 pm) > Sun: 2081-08-05 (6:36:06 pm) - 2082-08-06 (12:42:04 am) > Jup: 2082-08-06 (12:42:04 am) - 2085-08-05 (7:16:41 pm) > Ven: 2085-08-05 (7:16:41 pm) - 2089-08-05 (7:51:50 pm) > > Do correct me if i'm wrong, and do give her first name so we can rectify > the d60 chart. > Hope this helps. > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ---------- > www: http://srigaruda.com > @: visti > > rajaperry skrev: > > > > Dear List, > > > > The other day I did a reading for a lady whom I had never met before. > > The birth data is August 5th, 1969, 2:01 am., at Canberra, Australia > > (149E13, 35S17) zone -10. I found that I made a lot of mistakes in > > interpretation of her chart, and found it disappointing that I could > > not seem to zero in on her issues and give correct past predictions. > > For example, I had predicted that she may not have had a good > > relationship with her mother or that she had early separation from her > > mother. Turns out, that was not the case at all, and she said she had a > > very close relationship with her mother. I saw karaka Moon in 12th > > house with debilitated badhaka lord Shani, and also 4th lord Sun in the > > 3rd (12th from 4th). The 4th house itself is afflicted by the Rahu/Ketu > > axis. Even the 4th house and its lord from Arudha lagna are afflicted. > > Can anyone say where I went wrong? > > > > I also completely missed that she had just had major back surgery when > > she asked if I could see any recent major events in her life. > > > > Raja > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Amit, Namaskar. So now father has been reduced to virya and mother has been reduced to blood? Doesn't this look more like we are using this to see the physical bodies of the father and mother, and not the actual relationship we have with them? Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Amit Puri skrev: Namskarm Venus left due to Virya karka........ so left for father ..mars being karka of blood of maja involve in creation of child.. i think mars is appropriate then venus.. .......As you said about satrun that in case of night birth otherwise sun is always karka for creation and 9th house.. regard 2008/6/1 Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Vyasadeva, Namaskar. Why not differentiate between Venus and Moon? Parasara has also said that Venus can show the mother, whilst Saturn can show the father. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com vaysadeva1008 skrev: Hello Visti ji we can also treat mars as matri karka being stronger then moon. regard sohamsa , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ????? > Dear Raja, Namaskar. > With Arudha Lagna in Cancer, mother is likely to be a strong support for > the native. Yet, there could have been issues faced by the mother > herself. See that the fourth house has an afflicted Mercury (relatives > or work), and that the Moon is in the ninth therefrom. So problems with > elders (ninth house) and particularly this mothers uncles or something > similar (uncles = mercury) could have arisen due to this combination. > This is mothers-uncle. Mercury cursed (rahu and ketu afflicts it) also > gives job issues in some form or manor and generally due to lack of > appreciation by co-workers and employers. > > Did you notice that Venus is aspected by Saturn, Rahu and Mars? This is > most relevant, and as Venus is in the twelfth from the Atmakaraka (AK) > it can cause bandhana/bondage. This can give long term physical > confinement due to the placement in 12th from AK. > Venus is the sixth lord for Taurus lagna and can cause this to be due to > some disease, deformity, etc. This will happen either in the upper back > (gemini - between shoulder blades) or on the right eye (Venus in first > drekkana in second house). Since eighth lord Jupiter aspects Venus this > is likely to be the former, i.e. Gemini and between the shoulder blades. > Operation arises from Mars associated with the twelfth house > (doctors/recovery) and with the curse. Here Mars aspects Venus and is > the 12th lord. > > Without an accurate Shastyamsa (d60) i cannot be sure of the timing, but > my assumption is that this could have happened either in Mars Mula Dasa > or Rahu Mula dasa. > > Moola Dasa (dasa showing the root of events - past karma): > Maha Dasas: > Merc: 1969-08-05 (2:01:00 am) - 1985-08-05 (4:20:01 am) > Ket: 1985-08-05 (4:20:01 am) - 1989-08-05 (4:54:03 am) > * Mars: 1989-08-05 (4:54:03 am) - 1991-08-05 (5:12:35 pm) > Rah: 1991-08-05 (5:12:35 pm) - 1997-08-05 (6:09:39 am) > * Moon: 1997-08-05 (6:09:39 am) - 2006-08-05 (1:21:60 pm) > Sat: 2006-08-05 (1:21:60 pm) - 2016-08-05 (3:03:58 am) > Sun: 2016-08-05 (3:03:58 am) - 2021-08-05 (9:45:24 am) > Jup: 2021-08-05 (9:45:24 am) - 2034-08-05 (5:37:41 pm) > Ven: 2034-08-05 (5:37:41 pm) - 2050-08-05 (8:02:20 pm) > Merc: 2050-08-05 (8:02:20 pm) - 2051-08-06 (2:12:29 am) > Ket: 2051-08-06 (2:12:29 am) - 2054-08-05 (8:33:14 pm) > Mars: 2054-08-05 (8:33:14 pm) - 2059-08-06 (3:22:14 am) > Rah: 2059-08-06 (3:22:14 am) - 2071-08-06 (5:04:56 am) > Moon: 2071-08-06 (5:04:56 am) - 2072-08-05 (11:24:04 am) > Sat: 2072-08-05 (11:24:04 am) - 2081-08-05 (6:36:06 pm) > Sun: 2081-08-05 (6:36:06 pm) - 2082-08-06 (12:42:04 am) > Jup: 2082-08-06 (12:42:04 am) - 2085-08-05 (7:16:41 pm) > Ven: 2085-08-05 (7:16:41 pm) - 2089-08-05 (7:51:50 pm) > > Do correct me if i'm wrong, and do give her first name so we can rectify > the d60 chart. > Hope this helps. > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ---------- > www: http://srigaruda.com > @: visti > > rajaperry skrev: > > > > Dear List, > > > > The other day I did a reading for a lady whom I had never met before. > > The birth data is August 5th, 1969, 2:01 am., at Canberra, Australia > > (149E13, 35S17) zone -10. I found that I made a lot of mistakes in > > interpretation of her chart, and found it disappointing that I could > > not seem to zero in on her issues and give correct past predictions. > > For example, I had predicted that she may not have had a good > > relationship with her mother or that she had early separation from her > > mother. Turns out, that was not the case at all, and she said she had a > > very close relationship with her mother. I saw karaka Moon in 12th > > house with debilitated badhaka lord Shani, and also 4th lord Sun in the > > 3rd (12th from 4th). The 4th house itself is afflicted by the Rahu/Ketu > > axis. Even the 4th house and its lord from Arudha lagna are afflicted. > > Can anyone say where I went wrong? > > > > I also completely missed that she had just had major back surgery when > > she asked if I could see any recent major events in her life. > > > > Raja > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Namskar visti jithis is not reduced picture of mother and father this is starting point of creation for child birth.. what else can create a child without these two tatwa.. and i mention this only for this case only not giving universal application for astrology .. where as the blood and the virya is universal application for creation of child in physical word .. thee two factor are there that is why we are looking sambhdha of the creation (native) with the creater....we can not deny this fact.... yes i agree for relation ship other factor need to be considered // regard2008/6/1 Visti Larsen <visti: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Amit, Namaskar. So now father has been reduced to virya and mother has been reduced to blood? Doesn't this look more like we are using this to see the physical bodies of the father and mother, and not the actual relationship we have with them? Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Amit Puri skrev: Namskarm Venus left due to Virya karka........ so left for father ..mars being karka of blood of maja involve in creation of child.. i think mars is appropriate then venus.. .......As you said about satrun that in case of night birth otherwise sun is always karka for creation and 9th house.. regard 2008/6/1 Visti Larsen <visti: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Vyasadeva, Namaskar. Why not differentiate between Venus and Moon? Parasara has also said that Venus can show the mother, whilst Saturn can show the father. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti vaysadeva1008 skrev: Hello Visti ji we can also treat mars as matri karka being stronger then moon. regard sohamsa , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ????? > Dear Raja, Namaskar. > With Arudha Lagna in Cancer, mother is likely to be a strong support for > the native. Yet, there could have been issues faced by the mother > herself. See that the fourth house has an afflicted Mercury (relatives > or work), and that the Moon is in the ninth therefrom. So problems with > elders (ninth house) and particularly this mothers uncles or something > similar (uncles = mercury) could have arisen due to this combination. > This is mothers-uncle. Mercury cursed (rahu and ketu afflicts it) also > gives job issues in some form or manor and generally due to lack of > appreciation by co-workers and employers. > > Did you notice that Venus is aspected by Saturn, Rahu and Mars? This is > most relevant, and as Venus is in the twelfth from the Atmakaraka (AK) > it can cause bandhana/bondage. This can give long term physical > confinement due to the placement in 12th from AK. > Venus is the sixth lord for Taurus lagna and can cause this to be due to > some disease, deformity, etc. This will happen either in the upper back > (gemini - between shoulder blades) or on the right eye (Venus in first > drekkana in second house). Since eighth lord Jupiter aspects Venus this > is likely to be the former, i.e. Gemini and between the shoulder blades. > Operation arises from Mars associated with the twelfth house > (doctors/recovery) and with the curse. Here Mars aspects Venus and is > the 12th lord. > > Without an accurate Shastyamsa (d60) i cannot be sure of the timing, but > my assumption is that this could have happened either in Mars Mula Dasa > or Rahu Mula dasa. > > Moola Dasa (dasa showing the root of events - past karma): > Maha Dasas: > Merc: 1969-08-05 (2:01:00 am) - 1985-08-05 (4:20:01 am) > Ket: 1985-08-05 (4:20:01 am) - 1989-08-05 (4:54:03 am) > * Mars: 1989-08-05 (4:54:03 am) - 1991-08-05 (5:12:35 pm) > Rah: 1991-08-05 (5:12:35 pm) - 1997-08-05 (6:09:39 am) > * Moon: 1997-08-05 (6:09:39 am) - 2006-08-05 (1:21:60 pm) > Sat: 2006-08-05 (1:21:60 pm) - 2016-08-05 (3:03:58 am) > Sun: 2016-08-05 (3:03:58 am) - 2021-08-05 (9:45:24 am) > Jup: 2021-08-05 (9:45:24 am) - 2034-08-05 (5:37:41 pm) > Ven: 2034-08-05 (5:37:41 pm) - 2050-08-05 (8:02:20 pm) > Merc: 2050-08-05 (8:02:20 pm) - 2051-08-06 (2:12:29 am) > Ket: 2051-08-06 (2:12:29 am) - 2054-08-05 (8:33:14 pm) > Mars: 2054-08-05 (8:33:14 pm) - 2059-08-06 (3:22:14 am) > Rah: 2059-08-06 (3:22:14 am) - 2071-08-06 (5:04:56 am) > Moon: 2071-08-06 (5:04:56 am) - 2072-08-05 (11:24:04 am) > Sat: 2072-08-05 (11:24:04 am) - 2081-08-05 (6:36:06 pm) > Sun: 2081-08-05 (6:36:06 pm) - 2082-08-06 (12:42:04 am) > Jup: 2082-08-06 (12:42:04 am) - 2085-08-05 (7:16:41 pm) > Ven: 2085-08-05 (7:16:41 pm) - 2089-08-05 (7:51:50 pm) > > Do correct me if i'm wrong, and do give her first name so we can rectify > the d60 chart. > Hope this helps. > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ---------- > www: http://srigaruda.com > @: visti > > rajaperry skrev: > > > > Dear List, > > > > The other day I did a reading for a lady whom I had never met before. > > The birth data is August 5th, 1969, 2:01 am., at Canberra, Australia > > (149E13, 35S17) zone -10. I found that I made a lot of mistakes in > > interpretation of her chart, and found it disappointing that I could > > not seem to zero in on her issues and give correct past predictions. > > For example, I had predicted that she may not have had a good > > relationship with her mother or that she had early separation from her > > mother. Turns out, that was not the case at all, and she said she had a > > very close relationship with her mother. I saw karaka Moon in 12th > > house with debilitated badhaka lord Shani, and also 4th lord Sun in the > > 3rd (12th from 4th). The 4th house itself is afflicted by the Rahu/Ketu > > axis. Even the 4th house and its lord from Arudha lagna are afflicted. > > Can anyone say where I went wrong? > > > > I also completely missed that she had just had major back surgery when > > she asked if I could see any recent major events in her life. > > > > Raja > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 namskar visti ji interesting discussion Can you tell me sloka No. of BPHS where i can clear my understanding .. mentioned below .. regard sohamsa , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ????? > Dear Vyasadeva, Namaskar. > Why not differentiate between Venus and Moon? Parasara has also said > that Venus can show the mother, whilst Saturn can show the father. > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ---------- > www: http://srigaruda.com > @: visti > > vaysadeva1008 skrev: > > > > Hello Visti ji > > > > we can also treat mars as matri karka being stronger then moon. > > > > regard > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>, > > Visti Larsen visti@ wrote: > > > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > > Dear Raja, Namaskar. > > > With Arudha Lagna in Cancer, mother is likely to be a strong support > > for > > > the native. Yet, there could have been issues faced by the mother > > > herself. See that the fourth house has an afflicted Mercury (relatives > > > or work), and that the Moon is in the ninth therefrom. So problems with > > > elders (ninth house) and particularly this mothers uncles or something > > > similar (uncles = mercury) could have arisen due to this combination. > > > This is mothers-uncle. Mercury cursed (rahu and ketu afflicts it) also > > > gives job issues in some form or manor and generally due to lack of > > > appreciation by co-workers and employers. > > > > > > Did you notice that Venus is aspected by Saturn, Rahu and Mars? This is > > > most relevant, and as Venus is in the twelfth from the Atmakaraka (AK) > > > it can cause bandhana/bondage. This can give long term physical > > > confinement due to the placement in 12th from AK. > > > Venus is the sixth lord for Taurus lagna and can cause this to be > > due to > > > some disease, deformity, etc. This will happen either in the upper back > > > (gemini - between shoulder blades) or on the right eye (Venus in first > > > drekkana in second house). Since eighth lord Jupiter aspects Venus this > > > is likely to be the former, i.e. Gemini and between the shoulder blades. > > > Operation arises from Mars associated with the twelfth house > > > (doctors/recovery) and with the curse. Here Mars aspects Venus and is > > > the 12th lord. > > > > > > Without an accurate Shastyamsa (d60) i cannot be sure of the timing, > > but > > > my assumption is that this could have happened either in Mars Mula Dasa > > > or Rahu Mula dasa. > > > > > > Moola Dasa (dasa showing the root of events - past karma): > > > Maha Dasas: > > > Merc: 1969-08-05 (2:01:00 am) - 1985-08-05 (4:20:01 am) > > > Ket: 1985-08-05 (4:20:01 am) - 1989-08-05 (4:54:03 am) > > > * Mars: 1989-08-05 (4:54:03 am) - 1991-08-05 (5:12:35 pm) > > > Rah: 1991-08-05 (5:12:35 pm) - 1997-08-05 (6:09:39 am) > > > * Moon: 1997-08-05 (6:09:39 am) - 2006-08-05 (1:21:60 pm) > > > Sat: 2006-08-05 (1:21:60 pm) - 2016-08-05 (3:03:58 am) > > > Sun: 2016-08-05 (3:03:58 am) - 2021-08-05 (9:45:24 am) > > > Jup: 2021-08-05 (9:45:24 am) - 2034-08-05 (5:37:41 pm) > > > Ven: 2034-08-05 (5:37:41 pm) - 2050-08-05 (8:02:20 pm) > > > Merc: 2050-08-05 (8:02:20 pm) - 2051-08-06 (2:12:29 am) > > > Ket: 2051-08-06 (2:12:29 am) - 2054-08-05 (8:33:14 pm) > > > Mars: 2054-08-05 (8:33:14 pm) - 2059-08-06 (3:22:14 am) > > > Rah: 2059-08-06 (3:22:14 am) - 2071-08-06 (5:04:56 am) > > > Moon: 2071-08-06 (5:04:56 am) - 2072-08-05 (11:24:04 am) > > > Sat: 2072-08-05 (11:24:04 am) - 2081-08-05 (6:36:06 pm) > > > Sun: 2081-08-05 (6:36:06 pm) - 2082-08-06 (12:42:04 am) > > > Jup: 2082-08-06 (12:42:04 am) - 2085-08-05 (7:16:41 pm) > > > Ven: 2085-08-05 (7:16:41 pm) - 2089-08-05 (7:51:50 pm) > > > > > > Do correct me if i'm wrong, and do give her first name so we can > > rectify > > > the d60 chart. > > > Hope this helps. > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > ---------- > > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > @: visti@ > > > > > > rajaperry skrev: > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > > The other day I did a reading for a lady whom I had never met before. > > > > The birth data is August 5th, 1969, 2:01 am., at Canberra, Australia > > > > (149E13, 35S17) zone -10. I found that I made a lot of mistakes in > > > > interpretation of her chart, and found it disappointing that I could > > > > not seem to zero in on her issues and give correct past predictions. > > > > For example, I had predicted that she may not have had a good > > > > relationship with her mother or that she had early separation from her > > > > mother. Turns out, that was not the case at all, and she said she > > had a > > > > very close relationship with her mother. I saw karaka Moon in 12th > > > > house with debilitated badhaka lord Shani, and also 4th lord Sun > > in the > > > > 3rd (12th from 4th). The 4th house itself is afflicted by the > > Rahu/Ketu > > > > axis. Even the 4th house and its lord from Arudha lagna are afflicted. > > > > Can anyone say where I went wrong? > > > > > > > > I also completely missed that she had just had major back surgery when > > > > she asked if I could see any recent major events in her life. > > > > > > > > Raja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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