Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 || Om Gurave Namah ||Dear Jyotishas, For those who are interested in the US Elections, Here is a bit of news about John McCain's birth time being 11AM, The source is from a commercial, http://astrologymundo.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/breaking-news-new-birth-time-for-john-mccain/ " John McCain TV commercial featuring the GOP candidate and his Mom that is pegged to Mother's Day. In the commercial, McCain jokes that he was born during "happy hour." This is pretty funny when you consider his wife Cindy inherited a Budweiser wholesaler and distributor. His Mom corrects him and says that he was actually born around 11 a.m. Here's the link to the commercial: http://tinyurl.com/4oa5q3 " With this time we have John McCain as Libra Lagna, Ak is Venus and D9 Lagna is Ta again ruled by Venus. (Pt. Sanjay Rath in the Jyotish Digest thinks a Strong Venus will be winning this election).If this time is used " as is " , The we can use the Dwadashottari dasa (112-Dasa) Dwadasottari dasa (applicable if lagna is in Venusian amsa): Maha Dasas: Sat: 1924-06-30 - 1943-07-01 Moon: 1943-07-01 - 1964-06-30 Sun: 1964-06-30 - 1971-07-01 Jup: 1971-07-01 - 1980-06-30 Ket: 1980-06-30 - 1991-07-01 Merc: 1991-07-01 - 2004-07-01 Rah: 2004-07-01 - 2019-07-01 Mars: 2019-07-01 - 2036-07-01Dwadasottari dasa (applicable if lagna is in Venusian amsa): Rah MD: 2004-07-01 - 2019-07-01 Antardasas in this MD: Rah: 2004-07-01 - 2006-07-05 Mars: 2006-07-05 - 2008-10-15 Sat: 2008-10-15 - 2011-04-29 Moon: 2011-04-29 - 2014-02-19 Sun: 2014-02-19 - 2015-01-28 Jup: 2015-01-28 - 2016-04-12 Ket: 2016-04-12 - 2017-10-06 Merc: 2017-10-06 - 2019-07-01Rahu-Saturn dasa would be running during the election time, Rahu and Saturn are both lords of 5th house Aq, Both in Rashi and Navamsa. Warm RegardsSanjay P Planet Age Sun Yuva (young) Moon Mrita (dead) Mars Kumara (adolescent) Mercury Vriddha (old) Jupiter Kumara (adolescent) Venus Mrita (dead) Saturn Mrita (dead) Rahu Kumara (adolescent) Ketu Kumara (adolescent) McCain, John S.Natal Chart August 29, 1936Time: 11:00:00 amTime Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 79 W 52' 00 " , 9 N 22' 00 " Coco Solo 0900 1100, Panama Altitude: 0.00 metersLunar Yr-Mo: Dhaata - Adhika BhadrapadaTithi: Sukla Dwadasi (Me) (16.13% left)Vedic Weekday: Saturday (Sa)Nakshatra: Uttarashadha (Su) (36.01% left)Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) (37.49% left) Karana: Balava (Mo) (32.26% left)Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Cn)Mahakala Hora: Venus (5 min sign: Ge)Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun)Sunrise: 6:10:47 amSunset: 6:29:38 pm Janma Ghatis: 12.0510Ayanamsa: 22-58-20.71Sidereal Time: 9:11:15Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi NavamsaLagna 24 Li 24' 34.41 " Visa 2 Li Ta Sun - PK 13 Le 08' 06.08 " Magh 4 Le CnMoon - DK 5 Cp 11' 57.37 " USha 3 Cp AqMars - PiK 19 Cn 23' 50.31 " Asre 1 Cn SgMercury - GK 9 Vi 23' 33.27 " UPha 4 Vi Pi Jupiter - MK 22 Sc 06' 47.49 " Jye 2 Sc CpVenus - AK 29 Le 56' 39.45 " UPha 1 Le SgSaturn ® - AmK 27 Aq 09' 22.73 " PBha 3 Aq GeRahu - BK 7 Sg 08' 58.24 " Mool 3 Sg Ge Ketu 7 Ge 08' 58.24 " Ardr 1 Ge SgMaandi 23 Le 42' 57.35 " PPha 4 Le ScGulika 12 Le 06' 28.90 " Magh 4 Le CnBhava Lagna 25 Li 14' 49.31 " Visa 2 Li Ta Hora Lagna 7 Cp 33' 11.33 " USha 4 Cp PiGhati Lagna 14 Le 28' 17.40 " PPha 1 Le LeVighati Lagna 19 Le 03' 47.72 " PPha 2 Le ViVarnada Lagna 24 Cn 24' 34.41 " Asre 3 Cn Ar Sree Lagna 14 Ge 47' 23.31 " Ardr 3 Ge AqPranapada Lagna 19 Ar 15' 26.51 " Bhar 2 Ar ViIndu Lagna 5 Ar 11' 57.37 " Aswi 2 Ar TaDhooma 26 Sg 28' 06.08 " PSha 4 Sg Sc Vyatipata 3 Cn 31' 53.92 " Push 1 Cn LeParivesha 3 Cp 31' 53.92 " USha 3 Cp AqIndra Chapa 26 Ge 28' 06.08 " Puna 2 Ge TaUpaketu 13 Cn 08' 06.08 " Push 3 Cn Li Kaala 10 Li 19' 31.00 " Swat 2 Li CpMrityu 23 Sc 42' 00.87 " Jye 3 Sc AqArtha Prahara 14 Sg 55' 02.34 " PSha 1 Sg LeYama Ghantaka 7 Cp 10' 18.98 " USha 4 Cp Pi Prana Sphuta 14 Ge 09' 20.97 " Ardr 3 Ge AqDeha Sphuta 23 Vi 42' 07.84 " Chit 1 Vi LeMrityu Sphuta 7 Pi 53' 28.40 " UBha 2 Pi ViSookshma TriSphuta 15 Sc 44' 57.21 " Anu 4 Sc Sc TriSphuta 11 Sg 43' 00.68 " Mool 4 Sg CnChatusSphuta 24 Ar 51' 06.76 " Bhar 4 Ar ScPanchaSphuta 2 Cp 00' 05.00 " USha 2 Cp CpKunda 27 Pi 10' 27.45 " Reva 4 Pi Pi +--------------+| | | |Ke AL || | | | || | | | || | | | | | | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||SaR | |Ma || | | || | | | | | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||Mo HL | |Su Ve || | |GL Md | | | |Gk || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Ra |Ju |As |Me | | | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+--------------+ +--------------+|Me HL | |As |SaR Ra | | | | | || | | | | | | | | || | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Mo | |Su Gk | | | |AL || | | | | | | || | Navamsa | | |-----------| |-----------||Ju | D-9 |GL | | | | || | | | | | | || | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Ma Ve |Md | | | |Ke | | | || | | | | | | | | || | | | | +--------------+ +--------------+| | |Mo |Md | | | | | || | | | | | | | | || | | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Ra Ke | |AL | | | | || | | | | | | || | Panchamsa | | |-----------| |-----------||Ma Ju | D-5 | | | | | || | | | | | | || | | | |-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Su GL | |As Ve |Me HL | |Gk | |SaR | || | | | | | | | | || | | | | +--------------+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Om Gurave namah Dear Sanjay, Thanks for the analyses. McCain doesn't seem very Venusian, but with Obama's Venus in marana karaka Stana he doesn't have a strong Venus either. The 9 AM birthtime came from McCain's mother as well, and was also confirmed in medical records by his ofice staff, according to Astrodatabank. Maybe the 23 bottles of Scotch that McCain's mother mentioned in the ad that you sent the link for was the reason she can't quite remember... ) Blessings, Willa sohamsa , " Sanjay Prabhakaran " <sanjaychettiar wrote: > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > Dear Jyotishas, > For those who are interested in the US Elections, Here is a bit of news > about John McCain's birth time being 11AM, The source is from a commercial, > > <tr_1213615198693> > http://astrologymundo.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/breaking-news-new- birth-time-for-john-mccain/ > > " John McCain TV commercial featuring the GOP candidate and his Mom that is > pegged to Mother's Day. In the commercial, McCain jokes that he was born > during " happy hour. " This is pretty funny when you consider his wife Cindy > inherited a Budweiser wholesaler and distributor. His Mom corrects him and > says that he was actually born around 11 a.m. > > Here's the link to the commercial: > http://tinyurl.com/4oa5q3 " <http://tinyurl.com/4oa5q3> > With this time we have John McCain as Libra Lagna, Ak is Venus and D9 Lagna > is Ta again ruled by Venus. (Pt. Sanjay Rath in the Jyotish Digest thinks a > Strong Venus will be winning this election). > > If this time is used " as is " , The we can use the Dwadashottari dasa > (112-Dasa) > Dwadasottari dasa (applicable if lagna is in Venusian amsa): > > > Maha Dasas: > > Sat: 1924-06-30 - 1943-07-01 > Moon: 1943-07-01 - 1964-06-30 > Sun: 1964-06-30 - 1971-07-01 > Jup: 1971-07-01 - 1980-06-30 > Ket: 1980-06-30 - 1991-07-01 > Merc: 1991-07-01 - 2004-07-01 > * Rah: 2004-07-01 - 2019-07-01 > * Mars: 2019-07-01 - 2036-07-01 > > Dwadasottari dasa (applicable if lagna is in Venusian amsa): > > * Rah MD: 2004-07-01 - 2019-07-01 > > Antardasas in this MD*: > > Rah: 2004-07-01 - 2006-07-05 > Mars: 2006-07-05 - 2008-10-15 > * Sat: 2008-10-15 - 2011-04-29 > * Moon: 2011-04-29 - 2014-02-19 > Sun: 2014-02-19 - 2015-01-28 > Jup: 2015-01-28 - 2016-04-12 > Ket: 2016-04-12 - 2017-10-06 > Merc: 2017-10-06 - 2019-07-01 > Rahu-Saturn dasa would be running during the election time, Rahu and Saturn > are both lords of 5th house Aq, Both in Rashi and Navamsa. > > Warm Regards > Sanjay P > > > *Planet* *Age* Sun Yuva (young) Moon Mrita (dead) Mars Kumara > (adolescent) Mercury Vriddha (old) Jupiter Kumara (adolescent) Venus Mrita > (dead) Saturn Mrita (dead) Rahu Kumara (adolescent) Ketu Kumara > (adolescent) > > > > McCain, John S. > > Natal Chart > > August 29, 1936 > Time: 11:00:00 am > Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 79 W 52' 00 " , 9 N 22' 00 " > Coco Solo 0900 1100, Panama > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Dhaata - Adhika Bhadrapada > Tithi: Sukla Dwadasi (Me) (16.13% left) > Vedic Weekday: Saturday (Sa) > Nakshatra: Uttarashadha (Su) (36.01% left) > Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) (37.49% left) > Karana: Balava (Mo) (32.26% left) > Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Cn) > Mahakala Hora: Venus (5 min sign: Ge) > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun) > > Sunrise: 6:10:47 am > Sunset: 6:29:38 pm > Janma Ghatis: 12.0510 > > Ayanamsa: 22-58-20.71 > Sidereal Time: 9:11:15 > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > Lagna 24 Li 24' 34.41 " Visa 2 Li Ta > Sun - PK 13 Le 08' 06.08 " Magh 4 Le Cn > Moon - DK 5 Cp 11' 57.37 " USha 3 Cp Aq > Mars - PiK 19 Cn 23' 50.31 " Asre 1 Cn Sg > Mercury - GK 9 Vi 23' 33.27 " UPha 4 Vi Pi > Jupiter - MK 22 Sc 06' 47.49 " Jye 2 Sc Cp > Venus - AK 29 Le 56' 39.45 " UPha 1 Le Sg > Saturn ® - AmK 27 Aq 09' 22.73 " PBha 3 Aq Ge > Rahu - BK 7 Sg 08' 58.24 " Mool 3 Sg Ge > Ketu 7 Ge 08' 58.24 " Ardr 1 Ge Sg > Maandi 23 Le 42' 57.35 " PPha 4 Le Sc > Gulika 12 Le 06' 28.90 " Magh 4 Le Cn > Bhava Lagna 25 Li 14' 49.31 " Visa 2 Li Ta > Hora Lagna 7 Cp 33' 11.33 " USha 4 Cp Pi > Ghati Lagna 14 Le 28' 17.40 " PPha 1 Le Le > Vighati Lagna 19 Le 03' 47.72 " PPha 2 Le Vi > Varnada Lagna 24 Cn 24' 34.41 " Asre 3 Cn Ar > Sree Lagna 14 Ge 47' 23.31 " Ardr 3 Ge Aq > Pranapada Lagna 19 Ar 15' 26.51 " Bhar 2 Ar Vi > Indu Lagna 5 Ar 11' 57.37 " Aswi 2 Ar Ta > Dhooma 26 Sg 28' 06.08 " PSha 4 Sg Sc > Vyatipata 3 Cn 31' 53.92 " Push 1 Cn Le > Parivesha 3 Cp 31' 53.92 " USha 3 Cp Aq > Indra Chapa 26 Ge 28' 06.08 " Puna 2 Ge Ta > Upaketu 13 Cn 08' 06.08 " Push 3 Cn Li > Kaala 10 Li 19' 31.00 " Swat 2 Li Cp > Mrityu 23 Sc 42' 00.87 " Jye 3 Sc Aq > Artha Prahara 14 Sg 55' 02.34 " PSha 1 Sg Le > Yama Ghantaka 7 Cp 10' 18.98 " USha 4 Cp Pi > Prana Sphuta 14 Ge 09' 20.97 " Ardr 3 Ge Aq > Deha Sphuta 23 Vi 42' 07.84 " Chit 1 Vi Le > Mrityu Sphuta 7 Pi 53' 28.40 " UBha 2 Pi Vi > Sookshma TriSphuta 15 Sc 44' 57.21 " Anu 4 Sc Sc > TriSphuta 11 Sg 43' 00.68 " Mool 4 Sg Cn > ChatusSphuta 24 Ar 51' 06.76 " Bhar 4 Ar Sc > PanchaSphuta 2 Cp 00' 05.00 " USha 2 Cp Cp > Kunda 27 Pi 10' 27.45 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > +--------------+ > | | | |Ke AL | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > |SaR | |Ma | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > |-----------| Rasi |-----------| > |Mo HL | |Su Ve | > | | |GL Md | > | | |Gk | > | | | | > | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > |Ra |Ju |As |Me | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > +--------------+ > > +--------------+ > |Me HL | |As |SaR Ra | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > |Mo | |Su Gk | > | | |AL | > | | | | > | | | | > | | Navamsa | | > |-----------| |-----------| > |Ju | D-9 |GL | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > |Ma Ve |Md | | | > |Ke | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > +--------------+ > > +--------------+ > | | |Mo |Md | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > |Ra Ke | |AL | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | Panchamsa | | > |-----------| |-----------| > |Ma Ju | D-5 | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > |Su GL | |As Ve |Me HL | > |Gk | |SaR | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > +--------------+ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 || Om Gurave Namah ||Dear Willa, Let me give my thought on " McCain doesn't seem very Venusian " , What it " seems " to us is always the Arudha. If we try to describe what the person seems like and try to explain it using the Arudha Lagna then we may have the right chart is my take. If take the Makara Lagna chart, The Arudha Lagna is in Gemini with Ketu, It may indicate his fighting tendency image or it may even show his past in the military etc. Particulary with Mars 2nd argala (Showing his near family) on Arudha. Obama was seeming very Venusian because of his Arudha Lagna in Libra. Please see if my points makes sense.Warm RegardsSanjay P2008/6/17 Willa Keizer <willa: Om Gurave namah Dear Sanjay, Thanks for the analyses. McCain doesn't seem very Venusian, but with Obama's Venus in marana karaka Stana he doesn't have a strong Venus either. The 9 AM birthtime came from McCain's mother as well, and was also confirmed in medical records by his ofice staff, according to Astrodatabank. Maybe the 23 bottles of Scotch that McCain's mother mentioned in the ad that you sent the link for was the reason she can't quite remember... ) Blessings, Willa sohamsa , " Sanjay Prabhakaran " <sanjaychettiar wrote: > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > Dear Jyotishas, > For those who are interested in the US Elections, Here is a bit of news > about John McCain's birth time being 11AM, The source is from a commercial, > > <tr_1213615198693> > http://astrologymundo.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/breaking-news-new- birth-time-for-john-mccain/ > > " John McCain TV commercial featuring the GOP candidate and his Mom that is > pegged to Mother's Day. In the commercial, McCain jokes that he was born > during " happy hour. " This is pretty funny when you consider his wife Cindy > inherited a Budweiser wholesaler and distributor. His Mom corrects him and > says that he was actually born around 11 a.m. > > Here's the link to the commercial: > http://tinyurl.com/4oa5q3 " <http://tinyurl.com/4oa5q3> > With this time we have John McCain as Libra Lagna, Ak is Venus and D9 Lagna > is Ta again ruled by Venus. (Pt. Sanjay Rath in the Jyotish Digest thinks a > Strong Venus will be winning this election). > > If this time is used " as is " , The we can use the Dwadashottari dasa > (112-Dasa) > Dwadasottari dasa (applicable if lagna is in Venusian amsa): > > > Maha Dasas: > > Sat: 1924-06-30 - 1943-07-01 > Moon: 1943-07-01 - 1964-06-30 > Sun: 1964-06-30 - 1971-07-01 > Jup: 1971-07-01 - 1980-06-30 > Ket: 1980-06-30 - 1991-07-01 > Merc: 1991-07-01 - 2004-07-01 > * Rah: 2004-07-01 - 2019-07-01 > * Mars: 2019-07-01 - 2036-07-01 > > Dwadasottari dasa (applicable if lagna is in Venusian amsa): > > * Rah MD: 2004-07-01 - 2019-07-01 > > Antardasas in this MD*: > > Rah: 2004-07-01 - 2006-07-05 > Mars: 2006-07-05 - 2008-10-15 > * Sat: 2008-10-15 - 2011-04-29 > * Moon: 2011-04-29 - 2014-02-19 > Sun: 2014-02-19 - 2015-01-28 > Jup: 2015-01-28 - 2016-04-12 > Ket: 2016-04-12 - 2017-10-06 > Merc: 2017-10-06 - 2019-07-01 > Rahu-Saturn dasa would be running during the election time, Rahu and Saturn > are both lords of 5th house Aq, Both in Rashi and Navamsa. > > Warm Regards > Sanjay P > > > *Planet* *Age* Sun Yuva (young) Moon Mrita (dead) Mars Kumara > (adolescent) Mercury Vriddha (old) Jupiter Kumara (adolescent) Venus Mrita > (dead) Saturn Mrita (dead) Rahu Kumara (adolescent) Ketu Kumara > (adolescent) > > > > McCain, John S. > > Natal Chart > > August 29, 1936 > Time: 11:00:00 am > Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 79 W 52' 00 " , 9 N 22' 00 " > Coco Solo 0900 1100, Panama > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Dhaata - Adhika Bhadrapada > Tithi: Sukla Dwadasi (Me) (16.13% left) > Vedic Weekday: Saturday (Sa) > Nakshatra: Uttarashadha (Su) (36.01% left) > Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) (37.49% left) > Karana: Balava (Mo) (32.26% left) > Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Cn) > Mahakala Hora: Venus (5 min sign: Ge) > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun) > > Sunrise: 6:10:47 am > Sunset: 6:29:38 pm > Janma Ghatis: 12.0510 > > Ayanamsa: 22-58-20.71 > Sidereal Time: 9:11:15 > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > Lagna 24 Li 24' 34.41 " Visa 2 Li Ta > Sun - PK 13 Le 08' 06.08 " Magh 4 Le Cn > Moon - DK 5 Cp 11' 57.37 " USha 3 Cp Aq > Mars - PiK 19 Cn 23' 50.31 " Asre 1 Cn Sg > Mercury - GK 9 Vi 23' 33.27 " UPha 4 Vi Pi > Jupiter - MK 22 Sc 06' 47.49 " Jye 2 Sc Cp > Venus - AK 29 Le 56' 39.45 " UPha 1 Le Sg > Saturn ® - AmK 27 Aq 09' 22.73 " PBha 3 Aq Ge > Rahu - BK 7 Sg 08' 58.24 " Mool 3 Sg Ge > Ketu 7 Ge 08' 58.24 " Ardr 1 Ge Sg > Maandi 23 Le 42' 57.35 " PPha 4 Le Sc > Gulika 12 Le 06' 28.90 " Magh 4 Le Cn > Bhava Lagna 25 Li 14' 49.31 " Visa 2 Li Ta > Hora Lagna 7 Cp 33' 11.33 " USha 4 Cp Pi > Ghati Lagna 14 Le 28' 17.40 " PPha 1 Le Le > Vighati Lagna 19 Le 03' 47.72 " PPha 2 Le Vi > Varnada Lagna 24 Cn 24' 34.41 " Asre 3 Cn Ar > Sree Lagna 14 Ge 47' 23.31 " Ardr 3 Ge Aq > Pranapada Lagna 19 Ar 15' 26.51 " Bhar 2 Ar Vi > Indu Lagna 5 Ar 11' 57.37 " Aswi 2 Ar Ta > Dhooma 26 Sg 28' 06.08 " PSha 4 Sg Sc > Vyatipata 3 Cn 31' 53.92 " Push 1 Cn Le > Parivesha 3 Cp 31' 53.92 " USha 3 Cp Aq > Indra Chapa 26 Ge 28' 06.08 " Puna 2 Ge Ta > Upaketu 13 Cn 08' 06.08 " Push 3 Cn Li > Kaala 10 Li 19' 31.00 " Swat 2 Li Cp > Mrityu 23 Sc 42' 00.87 " Jye 3 Sc Aq > Artha Prahara 14 Sg 55' 02.34 " PSha 1 Sg Le > Yama Ghantaka 7 Cp 10' 18.98 " USha 4 Cp Pi > Prana Sphuta 14 Ge 09' 20.97 " Ardr 3 Ge Aq > Deha Sphuta 23 Vi 42' 07.84 " Chit 1 Vi Le > Mrityu Sphuta 7 Pi 53' 28.40 " UBha 2 Pi Vi > Sookshma TriSphuta 15 Sc 44' 57.21 " Anu 4 Sc Sc > TriSphuta 11 Sg 43' 00.68 " Mool 4 Sg Cn > ChatusSphuta 24 Ar 51' 06.76 " Bhar 4 Ar Sc > PanchaSphuta 2 Cp 00' 05.00 " USha 2 Cp Cp > Kunda 27 Pi 10' 27.45 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > +--------------+ > | | | |Ke AL | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > |SaR | |Ma | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > |-----------| Rasi |-----------| > |Mo HL | |Su Ve | > | | |GL Md | > | | |Gk | > | | | | > | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > |Ra |Ju |As |Me | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > +--------------+ > > +--------------+ > |Me HL | |As |SaR Ra | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > |Mo | |Su Gk | > | | |AL | > | | | | > | | | | > | | Navamsa | | > |-----------| |-----------| > |Ju | D-9 |GL | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > |Ma Ve |Md | | | > |Ke | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > +--------------+ > > +--------------+ > | | |Mo |Md | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > |Ra Ke | |AL | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | Panchamsa | | > |-----------| |-----------| > |Ma Ju | D-5 | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > | | | | > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > |Su GL | |As Ve |Me HL | > |Gk | |SaR | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > | | | | | > +--------------+ > _ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Om Gurave namah, Dear Sanjay, Good point about the AL. I think you mean Kanya (not Makara) lagna for Mc Cain, putting AL in the 10th in Gemini with Ketu? I think this makes more sense, and his mother was right the first time! I had also thought Obama's AL in Libra seems right for him (see my first email) which explains why he " seems " like a Venusian peacemaker, but Shukra is suffering in MKS. He is critisised by the war hawks because he wants to talk to our " enemies " rather than shun them. His point is, if we don't talk, how can we resolve anything? Their point is, talking makes us weak. It is a clear philosophical choice. If he wins the presidency, the Arudha of the US in the eyes rest of the world may change dramatically, which will be a very good thing. Blessings, Willa sohamsa , " Sanjay Prabhakaran " <sanjaychettiar wrote: > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > Dear Willa, > Let me give my thought on " McCain doesn't seem very Venusian " , What it > " seems " to us is always the Arudha. If we try to describe what the person > seems like and try to explain it using the Arudha Lagna then we may have the > right chart is my take. > If take the Makara Lagna chart, The Arudha Lagna is in Gemini with Ketu, It > may indicate his fighting tendency image or it may even show his past in the > military etc. Particulary with Mars 2nd argala (Showing his near family) on > Arudha. > Obama was seeming very Venusian because of his Arudha Lagna in Libra. Please > see if my points makes sense. > > Warm Regards > Sanjay P > > > > > > 2008/6/17 Willa Keizer <willa: > > > Om Gurave namah > > > > Dear Sanjay, > > > > Thanks for the analyses. McCain doesn't seem very Venusian, but with > > Obama's Venus in marana karaka Stana he doesn't have a strong Venus > > either. > > > > The 9 AM birthtime came from McCain's mother as well, and was also > > confirmed in medical records by his ofice staff, according to > > Astrodatabank. > > > > Maybe the 23 bottles of Scotch that McCain's mother mentioned in the > > ad that you sent the link for was the reason she can't quite > > remember... ) > > > > Blessings, > > Willa > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, " Sanjay > > Prabhakaran " > > <sanjaychettiar@> wrote: > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > For those who are interested in the US Elections, Here is a bit of > > news > > > about John McCain's birth time being 11AM, The source is from a > > commercial, > > > > > > <tr_1213615198693> > > > http://astrologymundo.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/breaking-news- new- > > birth-time-for-john-mccain/ > > > > > > " John McCain TV commercial featuring the GOP candidate and his Mom > > that is > > > pegged to Mother's Day. In the commercial, McCain jokes that he was > > born > > > during " happy hour. " This is pretty funny when you consider his > > wife Cindy > > > inherited a Budweiser wholesaler and distributor. His Mom corrects > > him and > > > says that he was actually born around 11 a.m. > > > > > > Here's the link to the commercial: > > > http://tinyurl.com/4oa5q3 " <http://tinyurl.com/4oa5q3> > > > > > With this time we have John McCain as Libra Lagna, Ak is Venus and > > D9 Lagna > > > is Ta again ruled by Venus. (Pt. Sanjay Rath in the Jyotish Digest > > thinks a > > > Strong Venus will be winning this election). > > > > > > If this time is used " as is " , The we can use the Dwadashottari dasa > > > (112-Dasa) > > > Dwadasottari dasa (applicable if lagna is in Venusian amsa): > > > > > > > > > Maha Dasas: > > > > > > Sat: 1924-06-30 - 1943-07-01 > > > Moon: 1943-07-01 - 1964-06-30 > > > Sun: 1964-06-30 - 1971-07-01 > > > Jup: 1971-07-01 - 1980-06-30 > > > Ket: 1980-06-30 - 1991-07-01 > > > Merc: 1991-07-01 - 2004-07-01 > > > * Rah: 2004-07-01 - 2019-07-01 > > > * Mars: 2019-07-01 - 2036-07-01 > > > > > > Dwadasottari dasa (applicable if lagna is in Venusian amsa): > > > > > > * Rah MD: 2004-07-01 - 2019-07-01 > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD*: > > > > > > Rah: 2004-07-01 - 2006-07-05 > > > Mars: 2006-07-05 - 2008-10-15 > > > * Sat: 2008-10-15 - 2011-04-29 > > > * Moon: 2011-04-29 - 2014-02-19 > > > Sun: 2014-02-19 - 2015-01-28 > > > Jup: 2015-01-28 - 2016-04-12 > > > Ket: 2016-04-12 - 2017-10-06 > > > Merc: 2017-10-06 - 2019-07-01 > > > Rahu-Saturn dasa would be running during the election time, Rahu > > and Saturn > > > are both lords of 5th house Aq, Both in Rashi and Navamsa. > > > > > > Warm Regards > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > *Planet* *Age* Sun Yuva (young) Moon Mrita (dead) Mars Kumara > > > (adolescent) Mercury Vriddha (old) Jupiter Kumara (adolescent) > > Venus Mrita > > > (dead) Saturn Mrita (dead) Rahu Kumara (adolescent) Ketu Kumara > > > (adolescent) > > > > > > > > > > > > McCain, John S. > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > August 29, 1936 > > > Time: 11:00:00 am > > > Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) > > > Place: 79 W 52' 00 " , 9 N 22' 00 " > > > Coco Solo 0900 1100, Panama > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Dhaata - Adhika Bhadrapada > > > Tithi: Sukla Dwadasi (Me) (16.13% left) > > > Vedic Weekday: Saturday (Sa) > > > Nakshatra: Uttarashadha (Su) (36.01% left) > > > Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) (37.49% left) > > > Karana: Balava (Mo) (32.26% left) > > > Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Cn) > > > Mahakala Hora: Venus (5 min sign: Ge) > > > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun) > > > > > > Sunrise: 6:10:47 am > > > Sunset: 6:29:38 pm > > > Janma Ghatis: 12.0510 > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 22-58-20.71 > > > Sidereal Time: 9:11:15 > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > > > Lagna 24 Li 24' 34.41 " Visa 2 Li Ta > > > Sun - PK 13 Le 08' 06.08 " Magh 4 Le Cn > > > Moon - DK 5 Cp 11' 57.37 " USha 3 Cp Aq > > > Mars - PiK 19 Cn 23' 50.31 " Asre 1 Cn Sg > > > Mercury - GK 9 Vi 23' 33.27 " UPha 4 Vi Pi > > > Jupiter - MK 22 Sc 06' 47.49 " Jye 2 Sc Cp > > > Venus - AK 29 Le 56' 39.45 " UPha 1 Le Sg > > > Saturn ® - AmK 27 Aq 09' 22.73 " PBha 3 Aq Ge > > > Rahu - BK 7 Sg 08' 58.24 " Mool 3 Sg Ge > > > Ketu 7 Ge 08' 58.24 " Ardr 1 Ge Sg > > > Maandi 23 Le 42' 57.35 " PPha 4 Le Sc > > > Gulika 12 Le 06' 28.90 " Magh 4 Le Cn > > > Bhava Lagna 25 Li 14' 49.31 " Visa 2 Li Ta > > > Hora Lagna 7 Cp 33' 11.33 " USha 4 Cp Pi > > > Ghati Lagna 14 Le 28' 17.40 " PPha 1 Le Le > > > Vighati Lagna 19 Le 03' 47.72 " PPha 2 Le Vi > > > Varnada Lagna 24 Cn 24' 34.41 " Asre 3 Cn Ar > > > Sree Lagna 14 Ge 47' 23.31 " Ardr 3 Ge Aq > > > Pranapada Lagna 19 Ar 15' 26.51 " Bhar 2 Ar Vi > > > Indu Lagna 5 Ar 11' 57.37 " Aswi 2 Ar Ta > > > Dhooma 26 Sg 28' 06.08 " PSha 4 Sg Sc > > > Vyatipata 3 Cn 31' 53.92 " Push 1 Cn Le > > > Parivesha 3 Cp 31' 53.92 " USha 3 Cp Aq > > > Indra Chapa 26 Ge 28' 06.08 " Puna 2 Ge Ta > > > Upaketu 13 Cn 08' 06.08 " Push 3 Cn Li > > > Kaala 10 Li 19' 31.00 " Swat 2 Li Cp > > > Mrityu 23 Sc 42' 00.87 " Jye 3 Sc Aq > > > Artha Prahara 14 Sg 55' 02.34 " PSha 1 Sg Le > > > Yama Ghantaka 7 Cp 10' 18.98 " USha 4 Cp Pi > > > Prana Sphuta 14 Ge 09' 20.97 " Ardr 3 Ge Aq > > > Deha Sphuta 23 Vi 42' 07.84 " Chit 1 Vi Le > > > Mrityu Sphuta 7 Pi 53' 28.40 " UBha 2 Pi Vi > > > Sookshma TriSphuta 15 Sc 44' 57.21 " Anu 4 Sc Sc > > > TriSphuta 11 Sg 43' 00.68 " Mool 4 Sg Cn > > > ChatusSphuta 24 Ar 51' 06.76 " Bhar 4 Ar Sc > > > PanchaSphuta 2 Cp 00' 05.00 " USha 2 Cp Cp > > > Kunda 27 Pi 10' 27.45 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > > +--------------+ > > > | | | |Ke AL | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > |SaR | |Ma | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > |-----------| Rasi |-----------| > > > |Mo HL | |Su Ve | > > > | | |GL Md | > > > | | |Gk | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > |Ra |Ju |As |Me | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > +--------------+ > > > > > > +--------------+ > > > |Me HL | |As |SaR Ra | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > |Mo | |Su Gk | > > > | | |AL | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > | | Navamsa | | > > > |-----------| |-----------| > > > |Ju | D-9 |GL | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > |Ma Ve |Md | | | > > > |Ke | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > +--------------+ > > > > > > +--------------+ > > > | | |Mo |Md | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > |Ra Ke | |AL | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > | | Panchamsa | | > > > |-----------| |-----------| > > > |Ma Ju | D-5 | | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > |Su GL | |As Ve |Me HL | > > > |Gk | |SaR | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > +--------------+ > > > > > > > _ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 || Om Gurave Namah ||Dear Willa, " I think you mean Kanya (not Makara) lagna for Mc Cain, putting AL in the 10th in Gemini with Ketu? " Actually for John McCain, Both Virgo/Kanya and Tula/Libra lagna gives Arudha Lagna in Gemini. " If he wins the presidency, the Arudha of the US in the eyes rest of the world may change dramatically, which will be a very good thing. " Yes, In my thought, The Arudha Lagna of the leader strongly determines what the individual can manifest in the world around. The Kendras and trines, are important to Arudha, more importantly the Kendras.For Example George W Bush also has Arudha Lagna with Ketu in Taurus, (In Ayush Exaltation) with Mars in 10th kendra from it. Terrorism and War was one of the most important manifestations during his era. McCain would have Ketu in Gemini (In Natural debility). The good thing would be the Mercury exalted in Kendra, So if he comes, the exalted mercury can mean very good to the business world too.Arudha Lagna also indicates what one can project in the world. Warm RegardsSanjay P 2008/6/17 Willa Keizer <willa: Om Gurave namah, Dear Sanjay, Good point about the AL. I think you mean Kanya (not Makara) lagna for Mc Cain, putting AL in the 10th in Gemini with Ketu? I think this makes more sense, and his mother was right the first time! I had also thought Obama's AL in Libra seems right for him (see my first email) which explains why he " seems " like a Venusian peacemaker, but Shukra is suffering in MKS. He is critisised by the war hawks because he wants to talk to our " enemies " rather than shun them. His point is, if we don't talk, how can we resolve anything? Their point is, talking makes us weak. It is a clear philosophical choice. If he wins the presidency, the Arudha of the US in the eyes rest of the world may change dramatically, which will be a very good thing. Blessings, Willa sohamsa , " Sanjay Prabhakaran " <sanjaychettiar wrote: > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > Dear Willa, > Let me give my thought on " McCain doesn't seem very Venusian " , What it > " seems " to us is always the Arudha. If we try to describe what the person > seems like and try to explain it using the Arudha Lagna then we may have the > right chart is my take. > If take the Makara Lagna chart, The Arudha Lagna is in Gemini with Ketu, It > may indicate his fighting tendency image or it may even show his past in the > military etc. Particulary with Mars 2nd argala (Showing his near family) on > Arudha. > Obama was seeming very Venusian because of his Arudha Lagna in Libra. Please > see if my points makes sense. > > Warm Regards > Sanjay P > > > > > > 2008/6/17 Willa Keizer <willa: > > > Om Gurave namah > > > > Dear Sanjay, > > > > Thanks for the analyses. McCain doesn't seem very Venusian, but with > > Obama's Venus in marana karaka Stana he doesn't have a strong Venus > > either. > > > > The 9 AM birthtime came from McCain's mother as well, and was also > > confirmed in medical records by his ofice staff, according to > > Astrodatabank. > > > > Maybe the 23 bottles of Scotch that McCain's mother mentioned in the > > ad that you sent the link for was the reason she can't quite > > remember... ) > > > > Blessings, > > Willa > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, " Sanjay > > Prabhakaran " > > <sanjaychettiar@> wrote: > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > For those who are interested in the US Elections, Here is a bit of > > news > > > about John McCain's birth time being 11AM, The source is from a > > commercial, > > > > > > <tr_1213615198693> > > > http://astrologymundo.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/breaking-news- new- > > birth-time-for-john-mccain/ > > > > > > " John McCain TV commercial featuring the GOP candidate and his Mom > > that is > > > pegged to Mother's Day. In the commercial, McCain jokes that he was > > born > > > during " happy hour. " This is pretty funny when you consider his > > wife Cindy > > > inherited a Budweiser wholesaler and distributor. His Mom corrects > > him and > > > says that he was actually born around 11 a.m. > > > > > > Here's the link to the commercial: > > > http://tinyurl.com/4oa5q3 " <http://tinyurl.com/4oa5q3> > > > > > With this time we have John McCain as Libra Lagna, Ak is Venus and > > D9 Lagna > > > is Ta again ruled by Venus. (Pt. Sanjay Rath in the Jyotish Digest > > thinks a > > > Strong Venus will be winning this election). > > > > > > If this time is used " as is " , The we can use the Dwadashottari dasa > > > (112-Dasa) > > > Dwadasottari dasa (applicable if lagna is in Venusian amsa): > > > > > > > > > Maha Dasas: > > > > > > Sat: 1924-06-30 - 1943-07-01 > > > Moon: 1943-07-01 - 1964-06-30 > > > Sun: 1964-06-30 - 1971-07-01 > > > Jup: 1971-07-01 - 1980-06-30 > > > Ket: 1980-06-30 - 1991-07-01 > > > Merc: 1991-07-01 - 2004-07-01 > > > * Rah: 2004-07-01 - 2019-07-01 > > > * Mars: 2019-07-01 - 2036-07-01 > > > > > > Dwadasottari dasa (applicable if lagna is in Venusian amsa): > > > > > > * Rah MD: 2004-07-01 - 2019-07-01 > > > > > > Antardasas in this MD*: > > > > > > Rah: 2004-07-01 - 2006-07-05 > > > Mars: 2006-07-05 - 2008-10-15 > > > * Sat: 2008-10-15 - 2011-04-29 > > > * Moon: 2011-04-29 - 2014-02-19 > > > Sun: 2014-02-19 - 2015-01-28 > > > Jup: 2015-01-28 - 2016-04-12 > > > Ket: 2016-04-12 - 2017-10-06 > > > Merc: 2017-10-06 - 2019-07-01 > > > Rahu-Saturn dasa would be running during the election time, Rahu > > and Saturn > > > are both lords of 5th house Aq, Both in Rashi and Navamsa. > > > > > > Warm Regards > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > *Planet* *Age* Sun Yuva (young) Moon Mrita (dead) Mars Kumara > > > (adolescent) Mercury Vriddha (old) Jupiter Kumara (adolescent) > > Venus Mrita > > > (dead) Saturn Mrita (dead) Rahu Kumara (adolescent) Ketu Kumara > > > (adolescent) > > > > > > > > > > > > McCain, John S. > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > August 29, 1936 > > > Time: 11:00:00 am > > > Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) > > > Place: 79 W 52' 00 " , 9 N 22' 00 " > > > Coco Solo 0900 1100, Panama > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Dhaata - Adhika Bhadrapada > > > Tithi: Sukla Dwadasi (Me) (16.13% left) > > > Vedic Weekday: Saturday (Sa) > > > Nakshatra: Uttarashadha (Su) (36.01% left) > > > Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) (37.49% left) > > > Karana: Balava (Mo) (32.26% left) > > > Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Cn) > > > Mahakala Hora: Venus (5 min sign: Ge) > > > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun) > > > > > > Sunrise: 6:10:47 am > > > Sunset: 6:29:38 pm > > > Janma Ghatis: 12.0510 > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 22-58-20.71 > > > Sidereal Time: 9:11:15 > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > > > > Lagna 24 Li 24' 34.41 " Visa 2 Li Ta > > > Sun - PK 13 Le 08' 06.08 " Magh 4 Le Cn > > > Moon - DK 5 Cp 11' 57.37 " USha 3 Cp Aq > > > Mars - PiK 19 Cn 23' 50.31 " Asre 1 Cn Sg > > > Mercury - GK 9 Vi 23' 33.27 " UPha 4 Vi Pi > > > Jupiter - MK 22 Sc 06' 47.49 " Jye 2 Sc Cp > > > Venus - AK 29 Le 56' 39.45 " UPha 1 Le Sg > > > Saturn ® - AmK 27 Aq 09' 22.73 " PBha 3 Aq Ge > > > Rahu - BK 7 Sg 08' 58.24 " Mool 3 Sg Ge > > > Ketu 7 Ge 08' 58.24 " Ardr 1 Ge Sg > > > Maandi 23 Le 42' 57.35 " PPha 4 Le Sc > > > Gulika 12 Le 06' 28.90 " Magh 4 Le Cn > > > Bhava Lagna 25 Li 14' 49.31 " Visa 2 Li Ta > > > Hora Lagna 7 Cp 33' 11.33 " USha 4 Cp Pi > > > Ghati Lagna 14 Le 28' 17.40 " PPha 1 Le Le > > > Vighati Lagna 19 Le 03' 47.72 " PPha 2 Le Vi > > > Varnada Lagna 24 Cn 24' 34.41 " Asre 3 Cn Ar > > > Sree Lagna 14 Ge 47' 23.31 " Ardr 3 Ge Aq > > > Pranapada Lagna 19 Ar 15' 26.51 " Bhar 2 Ar Vi > > > Indu Lagna 5 Ar 11' 57.37 " Aswi 2 Ar Ta > > > Dhooma 26 Sg 28' 06.08 " PSha 4 Sg Sc > > > Vyatipata 3 Cn 31' 53.92 " Push 1 Cn Le > > > Parivesha 3 Cp 31' 53.92 " USha 3 Cp Aq > > > Indra Chapa 26 Ge 28' 06.08 " Puna 2 Ge Ta > > > Upaketu 13 Cn 08' 06.08 " Push 3 Cn Li > > > Kaala 10 Li 19' 31.00 " Swat 2 Li Cp > > > Mrityu 23 Sc 42' 00.87 " Jye 3 Sc Aq > > > Artha Prahara 14 Sg 55' 02.34 " PSha 1 Sg Le > > > Yama Ghantaka 7 Cp 10' 18.98 " USha 4 Cp Pi > > > Prana Sphuta 14 Ge 09' 20.97 " Ardr 3 Ge Aq > > > Deha Sphuta 23 Vi 42' 07.84 " Chit 1 Vi Le > > > Mrityu Sphuta 7 Pi 53' 28.40 " UBha 2 Pi Vi > > > Sookshma TriSphuta 15 Sc 44' 57.21 " Anu 4 Sc Sc > > > TriSphuta 11 Sg 43' 00.68 " Mool 4 Sg Cn > > > ChatusSphuta 24 Ar 51' 06.76 " Bhar 4 Ar Sc > > > PanchaSphuta 2 Cp 00' 05.00 " USha 2 Cp Cp > > > Kunda 27 Pi 10' 27.45 " Reva 4 Pi Pi > > > > > > +--------------+ > > > | | | |Ke AL | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > |SaR | |Ma | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > |-----------| Rasi |-----------| > > > |Mo HL | |Su Ve | > > > | | |GL Md | > > > | | |Gk | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > |Ra |Ju |As |Me | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > +--------------+ > > > > > > +--------------+ > > > |Me HL | |As |SaR Ra | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > |Mo | |Su Gk | > > > | | |AL | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > | | Navamsa | | > > > |-----------| |-----------| > > > |Ju | D-9 |GL | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > |Ma Ve |Md | | | > > > |Ke | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > +--------------+ > > > > > > +--------------+ > > > | | |Mo |Md | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > |Ra Ke | |AL | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > | | Panchamsa | | > > > |-----------| |-----------| > > > |Ma Ju | D-5 | | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > | | | | > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > |Su GL | |As Ve |Me HL | > > > |Gk | |SaR | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > | | | | | > > > +--------------+ > > > > > > > _ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Namaste SanjayP and others, I am unconvinced by the 11 am time. The old time of 9:10 am, rectified to 9:08:10 am, explains a lot of past events quite well. I suspect that the correct time is 9:08:10 am or thereabouts and NOT 11 am. * * * Lagna is Virgo with Mercury in it. He is an intelligent man. Debilitated Ketu is in AL in intellectual Gemini and he is seen as a maverick and an unconventional politician. He has vargottama lagna and has a strong individuality. He was married on 1965 July 3. This was Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as per Sataabdika dasa (applicable as lagna is vargottama). In the 1964-65 annual Tithi Pravesha (TP) chart's navamsa, 7th lord Mars is in 11th with lagna lord Venus. Annual Tithi Ashtottari (TA) dasa of Mars brought marriage. In the 1967-68 annual TP chart, ruler of the year Moon is in marana karaka sthana in 8th house and he is in mrityu bhaga. This was a terrible year that started a 5 year imprisonment. Also, the 3rd house is in mrityu bhaga and his bravery was tested badly. He was released on 1973 March 14. In the annual TP chart of 1972-73, 9th lord Venus in 10th and 4th lord Jupiter in 4th give a raja yoga and can show reaching home. Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa was running. Jupiter is with Moon in Sagittarius and shows becoming famous. The 10th lord in D-10 is Mars and show military career. Sun is the 7th lord, occupies 11th and aspects 5th. Sun antardasa started in 1977 and he served as navy's liaison to senate. This was the beginning of his political career. In Feb 1980, he was divorced. In the annual TP chart's navamsa, 7th lord Jupiter is in 8th. From the 7th house of marriage, Venus is the 8th lord in 7th and is a maraka. He is combust in lagna with Sun. His dasa brought divorce. Dasa of Moon in 7th brought the second marriage on 1980 May 17. He retired from navy on 1981 April 1. Venus is in the 7th house (2nd house from the 6th house of service) in D-10 of annual TP chart. In Venus-Venus, his service ended. In 1982 November, he was elected to US congress from Arizona. In annual TP chart, 10th lord Jupiter and 9th lord Mars are together giving a raja yoga. In D-10, lagna lord Sun is in the 5th house of power and 5th lord Jupiter aspects Leo lagna from Aquarius. In Jupiter dasa, he was elected to congress. In 1986-87 annual TP chart, 5th house has exalted 5th lord Mercury (who is the ruler of the year). In D-10, 5th lord Venus is in 9th and 9th lord Saturn is exalted in 5th. Moreover, there is Gaja-Kesari yoga on the 10th house axis. Dasa of 10th lord Jupiter gave him success in senate elections. In 1999-2000 annual TP chart, lagna lord Moon is afflicted by 8th lord Rahu. Other 8th lord Saturn is in 5th house of power. The 12th lord of loss Mercury is with debilitated Sun and their dispositor Venus happens to be badhakesha and he is retrograde in 2nd. During the dasa of exalted Jupiter in D-10 lagna, he did well. But he ran into troubles in Venus dasa and dropped out. In 2006-07 annual TP chart, 8th lord Mars is in 10th. During Mars dasa in summer, his campaign fell apart. In 2007-08 annual TP chart, 9th lord Jupiter is in 5th and 5th/10th lord Mars is in 11th and they aspect each other. In D-10 also, 9th and 10th lords Jupiter and Mars are in samasaptaka. Amatya karaka Venus is in arudha lagna in the 5th house. In the annual TA dasa of Venus, he emerged as the presumptive replublican nominee. * * * I looked at several events and they make pretty good sense with this time. When I use 11 am, most events make no sense. I suspect that 11 am time is incorrect. I am reasonably comfortable with the 9:08:10 am birthtime of McCain. However, I am not comfortable with any of the birthtimes floated for Barack Obama yet. Hopefully, the two Vice Presidential running mates will have known birthtimes and we can predict based on those charts instead of McCain and Obama charts. Best regards,NarasimhaDo Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamSpirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org sohamsa , "Sanjay Prabhakaran" <sanjaychettiar wrote:> > > > > Dear Jyotishas,> > > > > For those who are interested in the US Elections, Here is a bit> > of> > > > news> > > > > about John McCain's birth time being 11AM, The source is from a> > > > commercial,> > > > >> > > > > <tr_1213615198693>> > > > > http://astrologymundo.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/breaking-news-> > new-> > > > birth-time-for-john-mccain/> > > > >> > > > > "John McCain TV commercial featuring the GOP candidate and his> > Mom> > > > that is> > > > > pegged to Mother's Day. In the commercial, McCain jokes that he> > was> > > > born> > > > > during "happy hour." This is pretty funny when you consider his> > > > wife Cindy> > > > > inherited a Budweiser wholesaler and distributor. His Mom> > corrects> > > > him and> > > > > says that he was actually born around 11 a.m.> > > > >> > > > > Here's the link to the commercial:> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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