Guest guest Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Namaste dear Rafal, I don't have to write too much, question is same (down there in previous email from SS). Help us? Regards, Maja Hari Om Tat Sat sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak wrote: > > Dear Rafal, > > Please can you advise why Coral will be appropriate even though Mars > is 6th lord? > Is it because it lords 9th from AL? > > Many thanx > SS > > > sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar > > > > 1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the gem will activate it. > > Parivartana means that Diamond will activate Bu in 3 from AL which > > afflicts career life and skills of native. > > 2. Neck influences thinking. > > 3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet forward in > kalachakra > > scheme. > > 4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak. Badhakesh in lagna > is > > corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga > > 5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in twelfth. I follow Sanjayji > who > > also looks at lord when bhava is empty. > > 6. We can do everything if we know what we are doing. Planets in > lagna, > > fifth and tenth eclipses the others. > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal@ > > > > > > rajarshi nandy pisze: > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > I was trying to understand your advise to Mr Sunil. It would be > great > > > if you could kindly clarify some points which I could not > understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th lord, due to yuti > causing > > > exchange of effects? > > > > > > 2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck? What is its > significance? > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will give effects of > shani. > > > Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? But i thought it > was > > > for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please tell me the exact > rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa badhaka. In that > case > > > shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to nagraj temple? Why is > the > > > Krishna idol donation neeeded? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Regards > > > > > > Rajarshi > > > > > > /* > > > * " This above all: to thine own self be true! " - Hamlet* > > > */ > > > > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@>/* wrote: > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil) > > > > > > Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze: > > > > > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > >> Dear Sunil, Namaskar > > >> > > >> 1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord which is > > >> negative, but will also improve the finances and Chandra..so > its > > >> not perfect. Coral has less side-effects here. > > >> 2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for karma. > > >> 3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified by AK. Irs > also > > >> in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL. > > >> 4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial setbacks > (rasi) > > >> and then improvement (navamsa). > > >> 5. Just please try to perform those remedies which I have > given > > >> in the last mail. > > >> > > >> Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the Sarpa should > be > > >> broken and the ninth lord should be lifted - Bhuvanesvari. > > >> > > >> Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be remedied > by > > >> gift of idol/picture related to Sri Krishna. > > >> > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > >> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > >> > > >> > > >> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > >> > > >>> Dear Rafal ji, > > >>> Namaskar > > >>> Thank you very much for your guidance. I like to hear your > > >>> comments, not just about me, but even regarding other > > >>> person/subject > > >>> Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still wearing > a > > >>> Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring finger. Should > that > > >>> be removed too? Not that I see any visible difference after > > >>> wearing it. > > >>> I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean Coral in my > case) > > >>> in gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions for this. > > >>> Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow Sapphire to > > >>> boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due to > Rahu's 9th > > >>> aspect. Is it appropriate? > > >>> As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good period > since > > >>> the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic gains > now and > > >>> then but nothing substantial. I would love to change the > > >>> situation, if I can, and solicit your advice in this > regard. If > > >>> you will be kind enough to please give me a clear idea what > I > > >>> can do. > > >>> Regards > > >>> Sunil > > >>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ wp.pl>/* > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones > (Sunil) > > >>> > > >>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM > > >>> > > >>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > >>> Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > >>> > > >>> You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with rahu in > > >>> Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna idol/picture to > > >>> temple/spiritual person. > > >>> > > >>> You can wear only Coral. > > >>> > > >>> Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in > third/ninth > > >>> - only in dasa of this malefic - instead use right hand > with > > >>> fortune-gem. > > >>> > > >>> Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana and > > >>> worship Hanumanji sincerly! > > >>> > > >>> Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome as > its > > >>> the strength period (neechavastha) , after initial > struggle > > >>> there should be improvement due to exaltation in d9. > This > > >>> period works for spirituality a lot due to karakaamsa > > >>> position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra and being > GK > > >>> it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be > > >>> strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact that > Mo > > >>> in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H). > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Regards, > > >>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > >>> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa.com/> / > email: > > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > >>>> Dear Maja, > > >>>> I fully appreciate your openness about various > observations > > >>>> made so far. At least you are better than me when you > say > > >>>> few charts are clear to you. To me all of them look > confusing. > > >>>> My birth data is as follows: > > >>>> DOB: 21st September 1955 > > >>>> TOB: 10:32 A.M. > > >>>> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27) > > >>>> Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am not > in a > > >>>> hurry. > > >>>> Regards > > >>>> Sunil > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro /<majastrbacastro@ > > >>>> > <majastrbacastro@>/* wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ > > > >>>> <majastrbacastro@> > > >>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones > (Sunil) > > >>>> > > >>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM > > >>>> > > >>>> Om Gurave Namah > > >>>> Dear Sunil, > > >>>> Namaste > > >>>> > > >>>> My decision > > >>>> to wear that gift I received has nothing to do > with > > >>>> procedure of determining proper gemstone It is > just that I wear > > >>>> jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find it > very entertaining > > >>>> to learn about gemstones (not just for past two > days), for past > > >>>> month or two I had a few dialogues regarding same > kind of ring that > > >>>> you are wearing right now, and it turned out it is > not suitable for > > >>>> me when I was about to buy one. What happened > yesterday I consider > > >>>> it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for > few months. (If I > > >>>> suddenly disappear from list it will mean that it > was a wrong > > >>>> decision > > >>>> > > >>>> Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would > like to look at > > >>>> whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to > take it just as an > > >>>> opinion. As I have said on the beginning of this > thread I am not > > >>>> quite skilled with this issue, so have this > > >>>> in mind (Though it was > > >>>> not so difficult for me to say that ruby is proper > > >>>> gemstone for > > >>>> Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so > confusing as they > > >>>> often could be in various charts. When positions > in chart are > > >>>> complicated I choose to say " I don't know " rather > than to ruin > > >>>> someone's life.) > > >>>> > > >>>> Regards, > > >>>> Maja > > >>>> > > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> , Sunil > Sharma > > >>>> <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote: > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Dear Maja, > > >>>> > I have been reading each and every message on > this thread and, at > > >>>> the outset, was surprised to read about Neeraj's > observations. > > >>>> However, things became quite clear later on > especially with your > > >>>> comments on antardasha. > > >>>> > Your very last sentence in your last mail (even > though chandra is > > >>>> not lording my trines) caught my attention. > Debilitated chandra (in > > >>>> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my > chart with exalted > > >>>> Atmakaraka > > >>>> Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu conjoining > moon in > > >>>> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th > > >>>> house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY > > >>>> or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, the > net result is > > >>>> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already > afflicted due to > > >>>> debilitation) is afflicted. All this is something > I have been told > > >>>> by various astrologers (not necessarily all at the > same time). > > >>>> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and Diamond > to me. I am still > > >>>> wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand > ring finger > > >>>> (presently going through Venus dasha), and Coral > in gold pendant in > > >>>> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier > but changed it to a > > >>>> pendant and wore it in the neck in a black string. > I have since > > >>>> removed it but I must say that whenever I wear > Pearl it quietens my > > >>>> temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any > improvement in my > > >>>> career or financial aspects. > > >>>> > Now, my real question to you is > > >>>> this. Moon being afflicted and > > >>>> left hand to be used (for the effect to be > reduced), I should > > >>>> have > > >>>> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You > may take few days to > > >>>> reply! I am not in a hurry. > > >>>> > Regards > > >>>> > Sunil > > >>>> > > > >>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro > <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote: > > >>>> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> > > >>>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > Gemstones (Swami) > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Om Gurave Namah > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Namaste dear Swami, > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra > being unfavorable > > >>>> Graha > > >>>> > in this chart, those mentioned were the only one > I could find (and > > >>>> > that was after quite some time spent in serious > thinking). It is > > >>>> my > > >>>> > mistake to " equalize " effects of Rudra and > Maheshvara in Shula > > >>>> dasa > > >>>> > somewhere in my > > >>>> memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I did > > >>>> say > > >>>> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any > > >>>> significance to wear gemstone > > >>>> > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > >>>> > > > >>>> > So far I was informed about just a few rules > regarding determining > > >>>> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I thought > that Ketu/Rahu > > >>>> could > > >>>> > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th > from AK or if Rahu > > >>>> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful > information about this > > >>>> > issue. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... I > received one > > >>>> > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: > silver ring with a > > >>>> pearl > > >>>> > and matching silver pectoral also decorated with > pearls. What is > > >>>> > this today...? I was never this much involved in > any thread so > > >>>> far. > > >>>> > WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear it, even > though Chandra is not > > >>>> > lording my trines. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Regards, > > >>>> > Maja > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Hari Om Tat Sat > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > --- In > > >>>> , " swami " <swami@> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > >>>> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah > > >>>> > > Hari Om, > > >>>> > > Dear Maja, > > >>>> > > Your insights are great, incidently I was > struck at your > > >>>> mention > > >>>> > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I > don't think > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > significance) . > > >>>> > > I could not understand How sukra is > maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu > > >>>> as > > >>>> > maheswar planet . that also is appears incorrect. > > >>>> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu so > count to 8 th > > >>>> would > > >>>> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads to > Leo. > > >>>> > > The sign lord is SUN. > > >>>> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN > becomes Brahma Planet. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th and > 12 th from Sun > > >>>> the > > >>>> > maheswar. > > >>>> > > Eight > > >>>> lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup. > > >>>> > > We apply parashar strength to determne > strenth.Ketu and jup are > > >>>> > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so as > per naisargic bal > > >>>> Jup > > >>>> > is Maheswar. > > >>>> > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 sutra. > > >>>> > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is > discussed. > > >>>> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih > knowledge .So Gem stone of > > >>>> > planet that is maheswar if put in left should > diminish > > >>>> knowledge.If > > >>>> > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of > vedic shahstra. > > >>>> > > Perhaps native has tried many gems. > > >>>> > > By the way, influence of wearing planet > related to maheshwar is > > >>>> > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i could > access, so this > > >>>> > last suggestion may be taken just a logical > > >>>> aplication. > > >>>> > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment. > > >>>> > > with regards. > > >>>> > > OM TATSAT > > >>>> > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- --- > -- --------- > > >>>> > > Swami_RCS > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - --- > ----- -------- > > >>>> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence > of that Divine > > >>>> Being > > >>>> > who has created the three worlds.May He Direct > our understanding. " > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - --- > ----- --------- -------- > > >>>> -- > > >>>> > - > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > - > > >>>> > > majastrbacastro > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM > > >>>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > Gemstones > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > Om Gurave Namah > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?), > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > >>>> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing > zircon on his left > > >>>> hand, > > >>>> > so > > >>>> > > that means he was weakening his lord of > > >>>> 10th bhava in 9th... > > >>>> And > > >>>> > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd > bhava (which is > > >>>> > considered > > >>>> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also > maheshvara.. . but I don't > > >>>> > think > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > significance) . > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > I really dislike complicating simple things, > but this time I > > >>>> can > > >>>> > not > > >>>> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in > Dhanu, yet Mithuna is > > >>>> > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra and > Guru in it. That > > >>>> > means > > >>>> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his > Arudha Lagna. 12th > > >>>> lord > > >>>> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from Arudha > Lagna signifies > > >>>> > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. > These are just > > >>>> > > > >>>> thoughts... > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > Regards, > > >>>> > > Maja > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > --- In > > >>>> , RKM > <rajeevmundra@> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > Dear Neeraj > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in 9th > house which is a > > >>>> > Royal > > >>>> > > Yoga. > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have > helped you grow in your > > >>>> > > career. > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very > suitable. > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter and > Moon. -ve. > > >>>> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve > (but ok if malefic > > >>>> > > debiliated in 12th > > >>>> > > > house) > > >>>> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve. > > >>>> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and just > out > > >>>> of 8th house. > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and relatively > unafflicted is > > >>>> > working > > >>>> > > the > > >>>> best. > > >>>> > > > Suns stone would probably give you better > health and overall > > >>>> > luck. > > >>>> > > > But venus will cause growth in career. > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > -- > > >>>> > > > Ã'Åò Ã'ÄÉÃ'ÄÃÃ'Äf > Ã'Ä´Ã'ÄÆ'Ã'IJÃ'ĬÃ'Äà > > >>>> > > > RKM > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda > krsna > > >>>> <yasodakrsna@> > > >>>> > > wrote: > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj, > > >>>> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of SJC > have made error. > > >>>> > > > > Particularly in my case was recommended > Coral by one, > > >>>> Ruby > > >>>> > by > > >>>> > > two. > > >>>> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by > > >>>> recommended quality > > >>>> > gemologist. > > >>>> > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not by > internet > > >>>> questions > > >>>> > but > > >>>> > > > >>>> > by paid > > >>>> > > > > services. > > >>>> > > > > The good thing was the price of gold > soared and made good > > >>>> > > >>>> > money > > >>>> > > by selling > > >>>> > > > > it. > > >>>> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath recommendation > of yellow > > >>>> sapphire > > >>>> > as > > >>>> > > it works. > > >>>> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their > Devata for the > > >>>> prediction > > >>>> > to > > >>>> > > be true. > > >>>> > > > > Yasoda. > > >>>> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than > gemstone if sincere > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ 2000@> > > >>>> > > > > vedic astrology; > > >>>> > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM > > >>>> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] > > >>>> Choosing Gemstones > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Dear All, > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > It's been more than four years that I > studied > > >>>> different > > >>>> > books on > > >>>> > > gemstones > > >>>> > > > > and got advise from different good > astrologers about the > > >>>> > > gemstone. But none > > >>>> > > > > of them gave very good result. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > As of now, some of the following > theories are present for > > >>>> > > >>>> > > choosing > > >>>> > > > > gemstone. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord > > >>>> (recommended by many > > >>>> astrologers) > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, 5, > and 9) - Anukool > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool) > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > However, I recently found that one > gemstone worked very > > >>>> well > > >>>> > for > > >>>> > > me. After > > >>>> > > > > wearing that I got a very good results > in my career and > > >>>> also > > >>>> > my > > >>>> > > income > > >>>> > > > > increased by more than 100% in approx. 4 > months. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not recommended > to me by any > > >>>> > astrologer > > >>>> > > >>>> > > (though I > > >>>> > > > > consulted several ones in person) and in > no such book it > > >>>> was > > >>>> > > mentioned that > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > I should choose this gemstone. I read > approximately 8-10 > > >>>> > books > > >>>> > > on gem > > >>>> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I > was not advised to > > >>>> > wear > > >>>> > > this gemstone. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, > Yellow Sapphire and > > >>>> Red > > >>>> > Coral > > >>>> > > by > > >>>> > > > > different astrologers. One even advised > blue sapphire, > > >>>> that > > >>>> > made > > >>>> > > matters > > >>>> > > > > worse. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details and > then I will tell > > >>>> > > >>>> > gem > > >>>> > > stone that > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > worked for me. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978 > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA) > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon > (Substitute of > > >>>> Diamond). > > >>>> > I > > >>>> > > worn this in > > >>>> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and things > started working > > >>>> > positive > > >>>> > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing > exceptional in > > >>>> my > > >>>> > > personal / work > > >>>> > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be > noted. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. It's not lord of > > >>>> trines. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not running. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Still, it gave me good results. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way > that may be tried > > >>>> if > > >>>> > some > > >>>> > > one wants > > >>>> > > > > to try. Please share your results, so > that we can know > > >>>> more > > >>>> > > about this. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in 1,5,9 > house. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If > any of the planets > > >>>> > that > > >>>> > > were in 1,5,9 > > >>>> > > > > house moves to > > >>>> some other house, ignore that planet. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines > (1,5,9) in both natal > > >>>> > > >>>> > chart > > >>>> > > and > > >>>> bhava > > >>>> > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore rahu, > ketu) > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found till > step 3 is > > >>>> benefic > > >>>> > for > > >>>> > > your > > >>>> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose the > main gemstone of > > >>>> > that > > >>>> > > planet and > > >>>> > > > > wear it in the right hand. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet that > was found in > > >>>> step > > >>>> 3 > > >>>> > is > > >>>> > > malefic, > > >>>> > > > > then choose the substitute gem for that > planet and wear > > >>>> it > > >>>> > in > > >>>> > > the left hand. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > The above was just a thought that came to my > mind and if > > >>>> > some > > >>>> > > one wants to > > >>>> > > > > try it, they may do so for experiment. > Kindly share with > > >>>> > > >>>> > other > > >>>> > > members, if > > >>>> > > > > this method works for you. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Regards, > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > >>>> > > > >>>> > ~ om tat sat ~ > > >>>> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > Achyuta Ashram. > > >>>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > >>>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > the Great who said > > >>>> > > >>>> that the human > > >>>> > stomach should not become a graveyard for > animals. > > >>>> > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > one free chart > > >>>> reading > > >>>> > today > > >>>> Links > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > >>>> > > >>>> ~ om tat sat ~ > > >>>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > Achyuta Ashram. > > >>>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare > Rama Krishna' > > >>>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the > Great who said that the human > > >>>> stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > >>>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one > free chart reading > > >>>> today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Maja & SS , Namaskar Usually we perscribe gems for kona lords to increase the rise, fortune and wealth of native. Here Mangal is unafflicted and wellplaced so it will give effect of Lagnesh and not sixth lord. Instead Shani will give effect of sixth lord giving problem to pitta and tridoshic problems of genital area/anus (right side) (82-91). Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Maja Strbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Namaste dear Rafal, I don't have to write too much, question is same (down there in previous email from SS). Help us? Regards, Maja Hari Om Tat Sat sohamsa , "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak wrote: > > Dear Rafal, > > Please can you advise why Coral will be appropriate even though Mars > is 6th lord? > Is it because it lords 9th from AL? > > Many thanx > SS > > > sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar > > > > 1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the gem will activate it. > > Parivartana means that Diamond will activate Bu in 3 from AL which > > afflicts career life and skills of native. > > 2. Neck influences thinking. > > 3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet forward in > kalachakra > > scheme. > > 4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak. Badhakesh in lagna > is > > corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga > > 5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in twelfth. I follow Sanjayji > who > > also looks at lord when bhava is empty. > > 6. We can do everything if we know what we are doing. Planets in > lagna, > > fifth and tenth eclipses the others. > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal@ > > > > > > rajarshi nandy pisze: > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > I was trying to understand your advise to Mr Sunil. It would be > great > > > if you could kindly clarify some points which I could not > understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th lord, due to yuti > causing > > > exchange of effects? > > > > > > 2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck? What is its > significance? > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will give effects of > shani. > > > Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? But i thought it > was > > > for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please tell me the exact > rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa badhaka. In that > case > > > shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to nagraj temple? Why is > the > > > Krishna idol donation neeeded? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Regards > > > > > > Rajarshi > > > > > > /* > > > *"This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet* > > > */ > > > > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@>/* wrote: > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil) > > > > > > Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze: > > > > > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > >> Dear Sunil, Namaskar > > >> > > >> 1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord which is > > >> negative, but will also improve the finances and Chandra..so > its > > >> not perfect. Coral has less side-effects here. > > >> 2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for karma. > > >> 3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified by AK. Irs > also > > >> in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL. > > >> 4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial setbacks > (rasi) > > >> and then improvement (navamsa). > > >> 5. Just please try to perform those remedies which I have > given > > >> in the last mail. > > >> > > >> Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the Sarpa should > be > > >> broken and the ninth lord should be lifted - Bhuvanesvari. > > >> > > >> Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be remedied > by > > >> gift of idol/picture related to Sri Krishna. > > >> > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > >> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > >> > > >> > > >> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > >> > > >>> Dear Rafal ji, > > >>> Namaskar > > >>> Thank you very much for your guidance. I like to hear your > > >>> comments, not just about me, but even regarding other > > >>> person/subject > > >>> Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still wearing > a > > >>> Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring finger. Should > that > > >>> be removed too? Not that I see any visible difference after > > >>> wearing it. > > >>> I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean Coral in my > case) > > >>> in gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions for this. > > >>> Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow Sapphire to > > >>> boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due to > Rahu's 9th > > >>> aspect. Is it appropriate? > > >>> As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good period > since > > >>> the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic gains > now and > > >>> then but nothing substantial. I would love to change the > > >>> situation, if I can, and solicit your advice in this > regard. If > > >>> you will be kind enough to please give me a clear idea what > I > > >>> can do. > > >>> Regards > > >>> Sunil > > >>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ wp.pl>/* > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones > (Sunil) > > >>> > > >>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM > > >>> > > >>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > >>> Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > >>> > > >>> You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with rahu in > > >>> Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna idol/picture to > > >>> temple/spiritual person. > > >>> > > >>> You can wear only Coral. > > >>> > > >>> Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in > third/ninth > > >>> - only in dasa of this malefic - instead use right hand > with > > >>> fortune-gem. > > >>> > > >>> Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana and > > >>> worship Hanumanji sincerly! > > >>> > > >>> Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome as > its > > >>> the strength period (neechavastha) , after initial > struggle > > >>> there should be improvement due to exaltation in d9. > This > > >>> period works for spirituality a lot due to karakaamsa > > >>> position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra and being > GK > > >>> it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be > > >>> strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact that > Mo > > >>> in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H). > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Regards, > > >>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > >>> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa.com/> / > email: > > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > >>>> Dear Maja, > > >>>> I fully appreciate your openness about various > observations > > >>>> made so far. At least you are better than me when you > say > > >>>> few charts are clear to you. To me all of them look > confusing. > > >>>> My birth data is as follows: > > >>>> DOB: 21st September 1955 > > >>>> TOB: 10:32 A.M. > > >>>> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27) > > >>>> Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am not > in a > > >>>> hurry. > > >>>> Regards > > >>>> Sunil > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro /<majastrbacastro@ > > >>>> > <majastrbacastro@>/* wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ > > > >>>> <majastrbacastro@> > > >>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones > (Sunil) > > >>>> > > >>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM > > >>>> > > >>>> Om Gurave Namah > > >>>> Dear Sunil, > > >>>> Namaste > > >>>> > > >>>> My decision > > >>>> to wear that gift I received has nothing to do > with > > >>>> procedure of determining proper gemstone It is > just that I wear > > >>>> jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find it > very entertaining > > >>>> to learn about gemstones (not just for past two > days), for past > > >>>> month or two I had a few dialogues regarding same > kind of ring that > > >>>> you are wearing right now, and it turned out it is > not suitable for > > >>>> me when I was about to buy one. What happened > yesterday I consider > > >>>> it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for > few months. (If I > > >>>> suddenly disappear from list it will mean that it > was a wrong > > >>>> decision > > >>>> > > >>>> Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would > like to look at > > >>>> whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to > take it just as an > > >>>> opinion. As I have said on the beginning of this > thread I am not > > >>>> quite skilled with this issue, so have this > > >>>> in mind (Though it was > > >>>> not so difficult for me to say that ruby is proper > > >>>> gemstone for > > >>>> Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so > confusing as they > > >>>> often could be in various charts. When positions > in chart are > > >>>> complicated I choose to say "I don't know" rather > than to ruin > > >>>> someone's life.) > > >>>> > > >>>> Regards, > > >>>> Maja > > >>>> > > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> , Sunil > Sharma > > >>>> <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote: > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Dear Maja, > > >>>> > I have been reading each and every message on > this thread and, at > > >>>> the outset, was surprised to read about Neeraj's > observations. > > >>>> However, things became quite clear later on > especially with your > > >>>> comments on antardasha. > > >>>> > Your very last sentence in your last mail (even > though chandra is > > >>>> not lording my trines) caught my attention. > Debilitated chandra (in > > >>>> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my > chart with exalted > > >>>> Atmakaraka > > >>>> Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu conjoining > moon in > > >>>> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th > > >>>> house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY > > >>>> or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, the > net result is > > >>>> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already > afflicted due to > > >>>> debilitation) is afflicted. All this is something > I have been told > > >>>> by various astrologers (not necessarily all at the > same time). > > >>>> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and Diamond > to me. I am still > > >>>> wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand > ring finger > > >>>> (presently going through Venus dasha), and Coral > in gold pendant in > > >>>> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier > but changed it to a > > >>>> pendant and wore it in the neck in a black string. > I have since > > >>>> removed it but I must say that whenever I wear > Pearl it quietens my > > >>>> temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any > improvement in my > > >>>> career or financial aspects. > > >>>> > Now, my real question to you is > > >>>> this. Moon being afflicted and > > >>>> left hand to be used (for the effect to be > reduced), I should > > >>>> have > > >>>> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You > may take few days to > > >>>> reply! I am not in a hurry. > > >>>> > Regards > > >>>> > Sunil > > >>>> > > > >>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro > <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote: > > >>>> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> > > >>>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > Gemstones (Swami) > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Om Gurave Namah > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Namaste dear Swami, > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra > being unfavorable > > >>>> Graha > > >>>> > in this chart, those mentioned were the only one > I could find (and > > >>>> > that was after quite some time spent in serious > thinking). It is > > >>>> my > > >>>> > mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra and > Maheshvara in Shula > > >>>> dasa > > >>>> > somewhere in my > > >>>> memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I did > > >>>> say > > >>>> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any > > >>>> significance to wear gemstone > > >>>> > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > >>>> > > > >>>> > So far I was informed about just a few rules > regarding determining > > >>>> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I thought > that Ketu/Rahu > > >>>> could > > >>>> > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th > from AK or if Rahu > > >>>> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful > information about this > > >>>> > issue. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... I > received one > > >>>> > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: > silver ring with a > > >>>> pearl > > >>>> > and matching silver pectoral also decorated with > pearls. What is > > >>>> > this today...? I was never this much involved in > any thread so > > >>>> far. > > >>>> > WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear it, even > though Chandra is not > > >>>> > lording my trines. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Regards, > > >>>> > Maja > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Hari Om Tat Sat > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > --- In > > >>>> , "swami" <swami@> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > >>>> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah > > >>>> > > Hari Om, > > >>>> > > Dear Maja, > > >>>> > > Your insights are great, incidently I was > struck at your > > >>>> mention > > >>>> > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I > don't think > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > significance) . > > >>>> > > I could not understand How sukra is > maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu > > >>>> as > > >>>> > maheswar planet . that also is appears incorrect. > > >>>> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu so > count to 8 th > > >>>> would > > >>>> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads to > Leo. > > >>>> > > The sign lord is SUN. > > >>>> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN > becomes Brahma Planet. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th and > 12 th from Sun > > >>>> the > > >>>> > maheswar. > > >>>> > > Eight > > >>>> lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup. > > >>>> > > We apply parashar strength to determne > strenth.Ketu and jup are > > >>>> > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so as > per naisargic bal > > >>>> Jup > > >>>> > is Maheswar. > > >>>> > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 sutra. > > >>>> > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is > discussed. > > >>>> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih > knowledge .So Gem stone of > > >>>> > planet that is maheswar if put in left should > diminish > > >>>> knowledge.If > > >>>> > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of > vedic shahstra. > > >>>> > > Perhaps native has tried many gems. > > >>>> > > By the way, influence of wearing planet > related to maheshwar is > > >>>> > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i could > access, so this > > >>>> > last suggestion may be taken just a logical > > >>>> aplication. > > >>>> > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment. > > >>>> > > with regards. > > >>>> > > OM TATSAT > > >>>> > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- --- > -- --------- > > >>>> > > Swami_RCS > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - --- > ----- -------- > > >>>> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence > of that Divine > > >>>> Being > > >>>> > who has created the three worlds.May He Direct > our understanding. " > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - --- > ----- --------- -------- > > >>>> -- > > >>>> > - > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > - > > >>>> > > majastrbacastro > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM > > >>>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > Gemstones > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > Om Gurave Namah > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?), > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > >>>> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing > zircon on his left > > >>>> hand, > > >>>> > so > > >>>> > > that means he was weakening his lord of > > >>>> 10th bhava in 9th... > > >>>> And > > >>>> > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd > bhava (which is > > >>>> > considered > > >>>> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also > maheshvara.. . but I don't > > >>>> > think > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > significance) . > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > I really dislike complicating simple things, > but this time I > > >>>> can > > >>>> > not > > >>>> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in > Dhanu, yet Mithuna is > > >>>> > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra and > Guru in it. That > > >>>> > means > > >>>> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his > Arudha Lagna. 12th > > >>>> lord > > >>>> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from Arudha > Lagna signifies > > >>>> > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. > These are just > > >>>> > > > >>>> thoughts... > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > Regards, > > >>>> > > Maja > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > --- In > > >>>> , RKM > <rajeevmundra@> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > Dear Neeraj > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in 9th > house which is a > > >>>> > Royal > > >>>> > > Yoga. > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have > helped you grow in your > > >>>> > > career. > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very > suitable. > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter and > Moon. -ve. > > >>>> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve > (but ok if malefic > > >>>> > > debiliated in 12th > > >>>> > > > house) > > >>>> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve. > > >>>> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and just > out > > >>>> of 8th house. > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and relatively > unafflicted is > > >>>> > working > > >>>> > > the > > >>>> best. > > >>>> > > > Suns stone would probably give you better > health and overall > > >>>> > luck. > > >>>> > > > But venus will cause growth in career. > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > -- > > >>>> > > > Ã'Åò Ã'ÄÉÃ'ÄÃÃ'Äf > Ã'Ä´Ã'ÄÆ'Ã'IJÃ'ĬÃ'Äà > > >>>> > > > RKM > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda > krsna > > >>>> <yasodakrsna@> > > >>>> > > wrote: > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj, > > >>>> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of SJC > have made error. > > >>>> > > > > Particularly in my case was recommended > Coral by one, > > >>>> Ruby > > >>>> > by > > >>>> > > two. > > >>>> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by > > >>>> recommended quality > > >>>> > gemologist. > > >>>> > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not by > internet > > >>>> questions > > >>>> > but > > >>>> > > > >>>> > by paid > > >>>> > > > > services. > > >>>> > > > > The good thing was the price of gold > soared and made good > > >>>> > > >>>> > money > > >>>> > > by selling > > >>>> > > > > it. > > >>>> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath recommendation > of yellow > > >>>> sapphire > > >>>> > as > > >>>> > > it works. > > >>>> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their > Devata for the > > >>>> prediction > > >>>> > to > > >>>> > > be true. > > >>>> > > > > Yasoda. > > >>>> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than > gemstone if sincere > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ 2000@> > > >>>> > > > > vedic astrology@ . com; > > >>>> > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM > > >>>> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] > > >>>> Choosing Gemstones > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Dear All, > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > It's been more than four years that I > studied > > >>>> different > > >>>> > books on > > >>>> > > gemstones > > >>>> > > > > and got advise from different good > astrologers about the > > >>>> > > gemstone. But none > > >>>> > > > > of them gave very good result. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > As of now, some of the following > theories are present for > > >>>> > > >>>> > > choosing > > >>>> > > > > gemstone. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord > > >>>> (recommended by many > > >>>> astrologers) > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, 5, > and 9) - Anukool > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool) > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > However, I recently found that one > gemstone worked very > > >>>> well > > >>>> > for > > >>>> > > me. After > > >>>> > > > > wearing that I got a very good results > in my career and > > >>>> also > > >>>> > my > > >>>> > > income > > >>>> > > > > increased by more than 100% in approx. 4 > months. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not recommended > to me by any > > >>>> > astrologer > > >>>> > > >>>> > > (though I > > >>>> > > > > consulted several ones in person) and in > no such book it > > >>>> was > > >>>> > > mentioned that > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > I should choose this gemstone. I read > approximately 8-10 > > >>>> > books > > >>>> > > on gem > > >>>> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I > was not advised to > > >>>> > wear > > >>>> > > this gemstone. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, > Yellow Sapphire and > > >>>> Red > > >>>> > Coral > > >>>> > > by > > >>>> > > > > different astrologers. One even advised > blue sapphire, > > >>>> that > > >>>> > made > > >>>> > > matters > > >>>> > > > > worse. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details and > then I will tell > > >>>> > > >>>> > gem > > >>>> > > stone that > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > worked for me. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978 > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA) > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon > (Substitute of > > >>>> Diamond). > > >>>> > I > > >>>> > > worn this in > > >>>> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and things > started working > > >>>> > positive > > >>>> > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing > exceptional in > > >>>> my > > >>>> > > personal / work > > >>>> > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be > noted. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. It's not lord of > > >>>> trines. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not running. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Still, it gave me good results. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way > that may be tried > > >>>> if > > >>>> > some > > >>>> > > one wants > > >>>> > > > > to try. Please share your results, so > that we can know > > >>>> more > > >>>> > > about this. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in 1,5,9 > house. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If > any of the planets > > >>>> > that > > >>>> > > were in 1,5,9 > > >>>> > > > > house moves to > > >>>> some other house, ignore that planet. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines > (1,5,9) in both natal > > >>>> > > >>>> > chart > > >>>> > > and > > >>>> bhava > > >>>> > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore rahu, > ketu) > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found till > step 3 is > > >>>> benefic > > >>>> > for > > >>>> > > your > > >>>> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose the > main gemstone of > > >>>> > that > > >>>> > > planet and > > >>>> > > > > wear it in the right hand. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet that > was found in > > >>>> step > > >>>> 3 > > >>>> > is > > >>>> > > malefic, > > >>>> > > > > then choose the substitute gem for that > planet and wear > > >>>> it > > >>>> > in > > >>>> > > the left hand. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > The above was just a thought that came to my > mind and if > > >>>> > some > > >>>> > > one wants to > > >>>> > > > > try it, they may do so for experiment. > Kindly share with > > >>>> > > >>>> > other > > >>>> > > members, if > > >>>> > > > > this method works for you. > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Regards, > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > >>>> > > > >>>> > ~ om tat sat ~ > > >>>> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > Achyuta Ashram. > > >>>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > >>>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > the Great who said > > >>>> > > >>>> that the human > > >>>> > stomach should not become a graveyard for > animals. > > >>>> > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > one free chart > > >>>> reading > > >>>> > today > > >>>> Links > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > >>>> > > >>>> ~ om tat sat ~ > > >>>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > Achyuta Ashram. > > >>>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare > Rama Krishna' > > >>>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the > Great who said that the human > > >>>> stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > >>>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one > free chart reading > > >>>> today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Namaste dear Rafal ji, Ohh... so that was the catch! Thank you very much. It is just that I find following list very frustrating sometimes: Lord of 2nd & 7th, maraka-NO! Lord of 6, 8 & 12th, dustahn-NO! Lord of 3rd & 11th, trika-NO! Graha in dustahn-NO! Graha in trika-NO! Badhakesh-NO! Blue sapphire-NO! Green emerald-NO! (I also find it very frustrating because I am Kanya lagna with Sukra in trika bhava Regards, Maja Hari Om Tat Sat sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Maja & SS , Namaskar > > Usually we perscribe gems for kona lords to increase the rise, fortune > and wealth of native. > > Here Mangal is unafflicted and wellplaced so it will give effect of > Lagnesh and not sixth lord. > > Instead Shani will give effect of sixth lord giving problem to pitta and > tridoshic problems of genital area/anus (right side) (82-91). > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste dear Rafal, > > > > I don't have to write too much, question is same (down there in > > previous email from SS). > > > > Help us? > > > > Regards, > > Maja > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > Please can you advise why Coral will be appropriate even though > > Mars > > > is 6th lord? > > > Is it because it lords 9th from AL? > > > > > > Many thanx > > > SS > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar > > > > > > > > 1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the gem will activate > > it. > > > > Parivartana means that Diamond will activate Bu in 3 from AL > > which > > > > afflicts career life and skills of native. > > > > 2. Neck influences thinking. > > > > 3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet forward in > > > kalachakra > > > > scheme. > > > > 4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak. Badhakesh in > > lagna > > > is > > > > corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga > > > > 5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in twelfth. I follow > > Sanjayji > > > who > > > > also looks at lord when bhava is empty. > > > > 6. We can do everything if we know what we are doing. Planets in > > > lagna, > > > > fifth and tenth eclipses the others. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > www: http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > rajarshi nandy pisze: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was trying to understand your advise to Mr Sunil. It would > > be > > > great > > > > > if you could kindly clarify some points which I could not > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th lord, due to yuti > > > causing > > > > > exchange of effects? > > > > > > > > > > 2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck? What is its > > > significance? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will give effects of > > > shani. > > > > > Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? But i thought > > it > > > was > > > > > for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please tell me the exact > > > rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa badhaka. In that > > > case > > > > > shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to nagraj temple? Why > > is > > > the > > > > > Krishna idol donation neeeded? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Regards > > > > > > > > > > Rajarshi > > > > > > > > > > /* > > > > > * " This above all: to thine own self be true! " - Hamlet* > > > > > */ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@>/* wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones > > (Sunil) > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > > Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze: > > > > > > > > > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > >> Dear Sunil, Namaskar > > > > >> > > > > >> 1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord which is > > > > >> negative, but will also improve the finances and > > Chandra..so > > > its > > > > >> not perfect. Coral has less side-effects here. > > > > >> 2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for karma. > > > > >> 3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified by AK. > > Irs > > > also > > > > >> in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL. > > > > >> 4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial setbacks > > > (rasi) > > > > >> and then improvement (navamsa). > > > > >> 5. Just please try to perform those remedies which I have > > > given > > > > >> in the last mail. > > > > >> > > > > >> Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the Sarpa > > should > > > be > > > > >> broken and the ninth lord should be lifted - Bhuvanesvari. > > > > >> > > > > >> Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be > > remedied > > > by > > > > >> gift of idol/picture related to Sri Krishna. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Regards, > > > > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > >> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > >> > > > > >>> Dear Rafal ji, > > > > >>> Namaskar > > > > >>> Thank you very much for your guidance. I like to hear > > your > > > > >>> comments, not just about me, but even regarding other > > > > >>> person/subject > > > > >>> Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still > > wearing > > > a > > > > >>> Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring finger. > > Should > > > that > > > > >>> be removed too? Not that I see any visible difference > > after > > > > >>> wearing it. > > > > >>> I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean Coral in > > my > > > case) > > > > >>> in gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions for > > this. > > > > >>> Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow > > Sapphire to > > > > >>> boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due to > > > Rahu's 9th > > > > >>> aspect. Is it appropriate? > > > > >>> As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good period > > > since > > > > >>> the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic gains > > > now and > > > > >>> then but nothing substantial. I would love to change the > > > > >>> situation, if I can, and solicit your advice in this > > > regard. If > > > > >>> you will be kind enough to please give me a clear idea > > what > > > I > > > > >>> can do. > > > > >>> Regards > > > > >>> Sunil > > > > >>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ > > wp.pl>/* > > > wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > > > > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > Gemstones > > > (Sunil) > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM > > > > >>> > > > > >>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > >>> Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > >>> > > > > >>> You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with > > rahu in > > > > >>> Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna idol/picture to > > > > >>> temple/spiritual person. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> You can wear only Coral. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in > > > third/ninth > > > > >>> - only in dasa of this malefic - instead use right > > hand > > > with > > > > >>> fortune-gem. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana and > > > > >>> worship Hanumanji sincerly! > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome > > as > > > its > > > > >>> the strength period (neechavastha) , after initial > > > struggle > > > > >>> there should be improvement due to exaltation in d9. > > > This > > > > >>> period works for spirituality a lot due to karakaamsa > > > > >>> position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra and > > being > > > GK > > > > >>> it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be > > > > >>> strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact > > that > > > Mo > > > > >>> in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H). > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Regards, > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > >>> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa.com/ > > <http://www.rohinaa.com/>> / > > > email: > > > > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > >>>> Dear Maja, > > > > >>>> I fully appreciate your openness about various > > > observations > > > > >>>> made so far. At least you are better than me when > > you > > > say > > > > >>>> few charts are clear to you. To me all of them look > > > confusing. > > > > >>>> My birth data is as follows: > > > > >>>> DOB: 21st September 1955 > > > > >>>> TOB: 10:32 A.M. > > > > >>>> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27) > > > > >>>> Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am > > not > > > in a > > > > >>>> hurry. > > > > >>>> Regards > > > > >>>> Sunil > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, > > majastrbacastro /<majastrbacastro@ > > > > >>>> > <majastrbacastro@>/* wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ > > > > > > > >>>> <majastrbacastro@> > > > > >>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > Gemstones > > > (Sunil) > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Om Gurave Namah > > > > >>>> Dear Sunil, > > > > >>>> Namaste > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> My decision > > > > >>>> to wear that gift I received has nothing to do > > > with > > > > >>>> procedure of determining proper gemstone It > > is > > > just that I wear > > > > >>>> jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find > > it > > > very entertaining > > > > >>>> to learn about gemstones (not just for past two > > > days), for past > > > > >>>> month or two I had a few dialogues regarding > > same > > > kind of ring that > > > > >>>> you are wearing right now, and it turned out it > > is > > > not suitable for > > > > >>>> me when I was about to buy one. What happened > > > yesterday I consider > > > > >>>> it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for > > > few months. (If I > > > > >>>> suddenly disappear from list it will mean that > > it > > > was a wrong > > > > >>>> decision > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would > > > like to look at > > > > >>>> whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to > > > take it just as an > > > > >>>> opinion. As I have said on the beginning of > > this > > > thread I am not > > > > >>>> quite skilled with this issue, so have this > > > > >>>> in mind (Though it was > > > > >>>> not so difficult for me to say that ruby is > > proper > > > > >>>> gemstone for > > > > >>>> Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so > > > confusing as they > > > > >>>> often could be in various charts. When > > positions > > > in chart are > > > > >>>> complicated I choose to say " I don't know " > > rather > > > than to ruin > > > > >>>> someone's life.) > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > >>>> Maja > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> , Sunil > > > Sharma > > > > >>>> <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Dear Maja, > > > > >>>> > I have been reading each and every message on > > > this thread and, at > > > > >>>> the outset, was surprised to read about > > Neeraj's > > > observations. > > > > >>>> However, things became quite clear later on > > > especially with your > > > > >>>> comments on antardasha. > > > > >>>> > Your very last sentence in your last mail > > (even > > > though chandra is > > > > >>>> not lording my trines) caught my attention. > > > Debilitated chandra (in > > > > >>>> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my > > > chart with exalted > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka > > > > >>>> Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu > > conjoining > > > moon in > > > > >>>> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th > > > > >>>> house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY > > > > >>>> or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, > > the > > > net result is > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already > > > afflicted due to > > > > >>>> debilitation) is afflicted. All this is > > something > > > I have been told > > > > >>>> by various astrologers (not necessarily all at > > the > > > same time). > > > > >>>> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and > > Diamond > > > to me. I am still > > > > >>>> wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand > > > ring finger > > > > >>>> (presently going through Venus dasha), and > > Coral > > > in gold pendant in > > > > >>>> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier > > > but changed it to a > > > > >>>> pendant and wore it in the neck in a black > > string. > > > I have since > > > > >>>> removed it but I must say that whenever I wear > > > Pearl it quietens my > > > > >>>> temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any > > > improvement in my > > > > >>>> career or financial aspects. > > > > >>>> > Now, my real question to you is > > > > >>>> this. Moon being afflicted and > > > > >>>> left hand to be used (for the effect to be > > > reduced), I should > > > > >>>> have > > > > >>>> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You > > > may take few days to > > > > >>>> reply! I am not in a hurry. > > > > >>>> > Regards > > > > >>>> > Sunil > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro > > > <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote: > > > > >>>> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> > > > > >>>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > Gemstones (Swami) > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Om Gurave Namah > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Namaste dear Swami, > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra > > > being unfavorable > > > > >>>> Graha > > > > >>>> > in this chart, those mentioned were the only > > one > > > I could find (and > > > > >>>> > that was after quite some time spent in > > serious > > > thinking). It is > > > > >>>> my > > > > >>>> > mistake to " equalize " effects of Rudra and > > > Maheshvara in Shula > > > > >>>> dasa > > > > >>>> > somewhere in my > > > > >>>> memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I > > did > > > > >>>> say > > > > >>>> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any > > > > >>>> significance to wear gemstone > > > > >>>> > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > So far I was informed about just a few rules > > > regarding determining > > > > >>>> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I > > thought > > > that Ketu/Rahu > > > > >>>> could > > > > >>>> > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th > > > from AK or if Rahu > > > > >>>> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful > > > information about this > > > > >>>> > issue. > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... > > I > > > received one > > > > >>>> > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: > > > silver ring with a > > > > >>>> pearl > > > > >>>> > and matching silver pectoral also decorated > > with > > > pearls. What is > > > > >>>> > this today...? I was never this much involved > > in > > > any thread so > > > > >>>> far. > > > > >>>> > WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear it, even > > > though Chandra is not > > > > >>>> > lording my trines. > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > >>>> > Maja > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > --- In > > > > >>>> , " swami " > > <swami@> > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > >>>> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om, > > > > >>>> > > Dear Maja, > > > > >>>> > > Your insights are great, incidently I was > > > struck at your > > > > >>>> mention > > > > >>>> > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I > > > don't think > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > significance) . > > > > >>>> > > I could not understand How sukra is > > > maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu > > > > >>>> as > > > > >>>> > maheswar planet . that also is appears > > incorrect. > > > > >>>> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu > > so > > > count to 8 th > > > > >>>> would > > > > >>>> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads > > to > > > Leo. > > > > >>>> > > The sign lord is SUN. > > > > >>>> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN > > > becomes Brahma Planet. > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th > > and > > > 12 th from Sun > > > > >>>> the > > > > >>>> > maheswar. > > > > >>>> > > Eight > > > > >>>> lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup. > > > > >>>> > > We apply parashar strength to determne > > > strenth.Ketu and jup are > > > > >>>> > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so > > as > > > per naisargic bal > > > > >>>> Jup > > > > >>>> > is Maheswar. > > > > >>>> > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 > > sutra. > > > > >>>> > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is > > > discussed. > > > > >>>> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih > > > knowledge .So Gem stone of > > > > >>>> > planet that is maheswar if put in left should > > > diminish > > > > >>>> knowledge.If > > > > >>>> > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of > > > vedic shahstra. > > > > >>>> > > Perhaps native has tried many gems. > > > > >>>> > > By the way, influence of wearing planet > > > related to maheshwar is > > > > >>>> > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i > > could > > > access, so this > > > > >>>> > last suggestion may be taken just a logical > > > > >>>> aplication. > > > > >>>> > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment. > > > > >>>> > > with regards. > > > > >>>> > > OM TATSAT > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > --- > > > -- --------- > > > > >>>> > > Swami_RCS > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > --- > > > ----- -------- > > > > >>>> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious > > effulgence > > > of that Divine > > > > >>>> Being > > > > >>>> > who has created the three worlds.May He > > Direct > > > our understanding. " > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > --- > > > ----- --------- -------- > > > > >>>> -- > > > > >>>> > - > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > - > > > > >>>> > > majastrbacastro > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM > > > > >>>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > Gemstones > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?), > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing > > > zircon on his left > > > > >>>> hand, > > > > >>>> > so > > > > >>>> > > that means he was weakening his lord of > > > > >>>> 10th bhava in 9th... > > > > >>>> And > > > > >>>> > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd > > > bhava (which is > > > > >>>> > considered > > > > >>>> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also > > > maheshvara.. . but I don't > > > > >>>> > think > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > significance) . > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > I really dislike complicating simple > > things, > > > but this time I > > > > >>>> can > > > > >>>> > not > > > > >>>> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in > > > Dhanu, yet Mithuna is > > > > >>>> > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra > > and > > > Guru in it. That > > > > >>>> > means > > > > >>>> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his > > > Arudha Lagna. 12th > > > > >>>> lord > > > > >>>> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from > > Arudha > > > Lagna signifies > > > > >>>> > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. > > > These are just > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> thoughts... > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > Regards, > > > > >>>> > > Maja > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > --- In > > > > >>>> , RKM > > > <rajeevmundra@> > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Dear Neeraj > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in > > 9th > > > house which is a > > > > >>>> > Royal > > > > >>>> > > Yoga. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have > > > helped you grow in your > > > > >>>> > > career. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very > > > suitable. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter > > and > > > Moon. -ve. > > > > >>>> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve > > > (but ok if malefic > > > > >>>> > > debiliated in 12th > > > > >>>> > > > house) > > > > >>>> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve. > > > > >>>> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and > > just > > > out > > > > >>>> of 8th house. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and > > relatively > > > unafflicted is > > > > >>>> > working > > > > >>>> > > the > > > > >>>> best. > > > > >>>> > > > Suns stone would probably give you > > better > > > health and overall > > > > >>>> > luck. > > > > >>>> > > > But venus will cause growth in career. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > -- > > > > >>>> > > > Ã'Ã...ò Ã'à " Ã0/00Ã'à " Ã?Ã'à " f > > > Ã'à " ´Ã'à " Æ'Ã'à " ²Ã'à " ¬Ã'à " Ã? > > > > >>>> > > > RKM > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda > > > krsna > > > > >>>> <yasodakrsna@> > > > > >>>> > > wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj, > > > > >>>> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of > > SJC > > > have made error. > > > > >>>> > > > > Particularly in my case was > > recommended > > > Coral by one, > > > > >>>> Ruby > > > > >>>> > by > > > > >>>> > > two. > > > > >>>> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by > > > > >>>> recommended quality > > > > >>>> > gemologist. > > > > >>>> > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not > > by > > > internet > > > > >>>> questions > > > > >>>> > but > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > by paid > > > > >>>> > > > > services. > > > > >>>> > > > > The good thing was the price of gold > > > soared and made good > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > money > > > > >>>> > > by selling > > > > >>>> > > > > it. > > > > >>>> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath > > recommendation > > > of yellow > > > > >>>> sapphire > > > > >>>> > as > > > > >>>> > > it works. > > > > >>>> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their > > > Devata for the > > > > >>>> prediction > > > > >>>> > to > > > > >>>> > > be true. > > > > >>>> > > > > Yasoda. > > > > >>>> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than > > > gemstone if sincere > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ > > 2000@> > > > > >>>> > > > > vedic astrology; > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM > > > > >>>> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > >>>> Choosing Gemstones > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Dear All, > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > It's been more than four years that I > > > studied > > > > >>>> different > > > > >>>> > books on > > > > >>>> > > gemstones > > > > >>>> > > > > and got advise from different good > > > astrologers about the > > > > >>>> > > gemstone. But none > > > > >>>> > > > > of them gave very good result. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > As of now, some of the following > > > theories are present for > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > choosing > > > > >>>> > > > > gemstone. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord > > > > >>>> (recommended by many > > > > >>>> astrologers) > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, > > 5, > > > and 9) - Anukool > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool) > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > However, I recently found that one > > > gemstone worked very > > > > >>>> well > > > > >>>> > for > > > > >>>> > > me. After > > > > >>>> > > > > wearing that I got a very good > > results > > > in my career and > > > > >>>> also > > > > >>>> > my > > > > >>>> > > income > > > > >>>> > > > > increased by more than 100% in > > approx. 4 > > > months. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not > > recommended > > > to me by any > > > > >>>> > astrologer > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > (though I > > > > >>>> > > > > consulted several ones in person) and > > in > > > no such book it > > > > >>>> was > > > > >>>> > > mentioned that > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > I should choose this gemstone. I read > > > approximately 8-10 > > > > >>>> > books > > > > >>>> > > on gem > > > > >>>> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I > > > was not advised to > > > > >>>> > wear > > > > >>>> > > this gemstone. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, > > > Yellow Sapphire and > > > > >>>> Red > > > > >>>> > Coral > > > > >>>> > > by > > > > >>>> > > > > different astrologers. One even > > advised > > > blue sapphire, > > > > >>>> that > > > > >>>> > made > > > > >>>> > > matters > > > > >>>> > > > > worse. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details > > and > > > then I will tell > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > gem > > > > >>>> > > stone that > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > worked for me. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978 > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA) > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon > > > (Substitute of > > > > >>>> Diamond). > > > > >>>> > I > > > > >>>> > > worn this in > > > > >>>> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and > > things > > > started working > > > > >>>> > positive > > > > >>>> > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing > > > exceptional in > > > > >>>> my > > > > >>>> > > personal / work > > > > >>>> > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be > > > noted. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. It's not lord of > > > > >>>> trines. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not > > running. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Still, it gave me good results. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way > > > that may be tried > > > > >>>> if > > > > >>>> > some > > > > >>>> > > one wants > > > > >>>> > > > > to try. Please share your results, so > > > that we can know > > > > >>>> more > > > > >>>> > > about this. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in > > 1,5,9 > > > house. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If > > > any of the planets > > > > >>>> > that > > > > >>>> > > were in 1,5,9 > > > > >>>> > > > > house moves to > > > > >>>> some other house, ignore that planet. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines > > > (1,5,9) in both natal > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > chart > > > > >>>> > > and > > > > >>>> bhava > > > > >>>> > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore > > rahu, > > > ketu) > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found > > till > > > step 3 is > > > > >>>> benefic > > > > >>>> > for > > > > >>>> > > your > > > > >>>> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose > > the > > > main gemstone of > > > > >>>> > that > > > > >>>> > > planet and > > > > >>>> > > > > wear it in the right hand. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet > > that > > > was found in > > > > >>>> step > > > > >>>> 3 > > > > >>>> > is > > > > >>>> > > malefic, > > > > >>>> > > > > then choose the substitute gem for > > that > > > planet and wear > > > > >>>> it > > > > >>>> > in > > > > >>>> > > the left hand. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > The above was just a thought that came to my > > > mind and if > > > > >>>> > some > > > > >>>> > > one wants to > > > > >>>> > > > > try it, they may do so for > > experiment. > > > Kindly share with > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > other > > > > >>>> > > members, if > > > > >>>> > > > > this method works for you. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Regards, > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > >>>> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > >>>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > > Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > > >>>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > > the Great who said > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> that the human > > > > >>>> > stomach should not become a graveyard for > > > animals. > > > > >>>> > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > > one free chart > > > > >>>> reading > > > > >>>> > today > > > > >>>> Links > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > >>>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > >>>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > Mantra 'Hare > > > Rama Krishna' > > > > >>>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > the > > > Great who said that the human > > > > >>>> stomach should not become a graveyard for > > animals. > > > > >>>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > one > > > free chart reading > > > > >>>> today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Dear Rafal, Thanx for the response. Just one more question: As u have said " Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet forward in kalachakra scheme. " , e.g. Saturn wud give results of surya, rahu that of guru and mangal that of shukra Now, shani, rahu and mangal are malefics, and malefics 12th to AL wud indicate bad expenses. So how do we actually interpret the malefic placement 12th to AL: Giving bad expenses (and hence maybe good for spirituality) OR behaving as surya/guru/shukra 12th to AL and giving good expenses? Also, if shani is 12th to AL, it will behave as surya in AL - now this wud be a maranakaraka positon of surya wrt AL - how do e interpret that? Many thanx again, SS - sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Maja & SS , Namaskar > > Usually we perscribe gems for kona lords to increase the rise, fortune > and wealth of native. > > Here Mangal is unafflicted and wellplaced so it will give effect of > Lagnesh and not sixth lord. > > Instead Shani will give effect of sixth lord giving problem to pitta and > tridoshic problems of genital area/anus (right side) (82-91). > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste dear Rafal, > > > > I don't have to write too much, question is same (down there in > > previous email from SS). > > > > Help us? > > > > Regards, > > Maja > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > Please can you advise why Coral will be appropriate even though > > Mars > > > is 6th lord? > > > Is it because it lords 9th from AL? > > > > > > Many thanx > > > SS > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar > > > > > > > > 1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the gem will activate > > it. > > > > Parivartana means that Diamond will activate Bu in 3 from AL > > which > > > > afflicts career life and skills of native. > > > > 2. Neck influences thinking. > > > > 3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet forward in > > > kalachakra > > > > scheme. > > > > 4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak. Badhakesh in > > lagna > > > is > > > > corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga > > > > 5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in twelfth. I follow > > Sanjayji > > > who > > > > also looks at lord when bhava is empty. > > > > 6. We can do everything if we know what we are doing. Planets in > > > lagna, > > > > fifth and tenth eclipses the others. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > www: http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > rajarshi nandy pisze: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was trying to understand your advise to Mr Sunil. It would > > be > > > great > > > > > if you could kindly clarify some points which I could not > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th lord, due to yuti > > > causing > > > > > exchange of effects? > > > > > > > > > > 2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck? What is its > > > significance? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will give effects of > > > shani. > > > > > Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? But i thought > > it > > > was > > > > > for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please tell me the exact > > > rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa badhaka. In that > > > case > > > > > shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to nagraj temple? Why > > is > > > the > > > > > Krishna idol donation neeeded? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Regards > > > > > > > > > > Rajarshi > > > > > > > > > > /* > > > > > * " This above all: to thine own self be true! " - Hamlet* > > > > > */ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@>/* wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones > > (Sunil) > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > > Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze: > > > > > > > > > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > >> Dear Sunil, Namaskar > > > > >> > > > > >> 1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord which is > > > > >> negative, but will also improve the finances and > > Chandra..so > > > its > > > > >> not perfect. Coral has less side-effects here. > > > > >> 2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for karma. > > > > >> 3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified by AK. > > Irs > > > also > > > > >> in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL. > > > > >> 4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial setbacks > > > (rasi) > > > > >> and then improvement (navamsa). > > > > >> 5. Just please try to perform those remedies which I have > > > given > > > > >> in the last mail. > > > > >> > > > > >> Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the Sarpa > > should > > > be > > > > >> broken and the ninth lord should be lifted - Bhuvanesvari. > > > > >> > > > > >> Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be > > remedied > > > by > > > > >> gift of idol/picture related to Sri Krishna. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Regards, > > > > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > >> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > >> > > > > >>> Dear Rafal ji, > > > > >>> Namaskar > > > > >>> Thank you very much for your guidance. I like to hear > > your > > > > >>> comments, not just about me, but even regarding other > > > > >>> person/subject > > > > >>> Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still > > wearing > > > a > > > > >>> Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring finger. > > Should > > > that > > > > >>> be removed too? Not that I see any visible difference > > after > > > > >>> wearing it. > > > > >>> I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean Coral in > > my > > > case) > > > > >>> in gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions for > > this. > > > > >>> Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow > > Sapphire to > > > > >>> boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due to > > > Rahu's 9th > > > > >>> aspect. Is it appropriate? > > > > >>> As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good period > > > since > > > > >>> the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic gains > > > now and > > > > >>> then but nothing substantial. I would love to change the > > > > >>> situation, if I can, and solicit your advice in this > > > regard. If > > > > >>> you will be kind enough to please give me a clear idea > > what > > > I > > > > >>> can do. > > > > >>> Regards > > > > >>> Sunil > > > > >>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ > > wp.pl>/* > > > wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > > > > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > Gemstones > > > (Sunil) > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM > > > > >>> > > > > >>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > >>> Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > >>> > > > > >>> You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with > > rahu in > > > > >>> Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna idol/picture to > > > > >>> temple/spiritual person. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> You can wear only Coral. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in > > > third/ninth > > > > >>> - only in dasa of this malefic - instead use right > > hand > > > with > > > > >>> fortune-gem. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana and > > > > >>> worship Hanumanji sincerly! > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome > > as > > > its > > > > >>> the strength period (neechavastha) , after initial > > > struggle > > > > >>> there should be improvement due to exaltation in d9. > > > This > > > > >>> period works for spirituality a lot due to karakaamsa > > > > >>> position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra and > > being > > > GK > > > > >>> it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be > > > > >>> strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact > > that > > > Mo > > > > >>> in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H). > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Regards, > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > >>> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa.com/ > > <http://www.rohinaa.com/>> / > > > email: > > > > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > >>>> Dear Maja, > > > > >>>> I fully appreciate your openness about various > > > observations > > > > >>>> made so far. At least you are better than me when > > you > > > say > > > > >>>> few charts are clear to you. To me all of them look > > > confusing. > > > > >>>> My birth data is as follows: > > > > >>>> DOB: 21st September 1955 > > > > >>>> TOB: 10:32 A.M. > > > > >>>> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27) > > > > >>>> Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am > > not > > > in a > > > > >>>> hurry. > > > > >>>> Regards > > > > >>>> Sunil > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, > > majastrbacastro /<majastrbacastro@ > > > > >>>> > <majastrbacastro@>/* wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ > > > > > > > >>>> <majastrbacastro@> > > > > >>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > Gemstones > > > (Sunil) > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Om Gurave Namah > > > > >>>> Dear Sunil, > > > > >>>> Namaste > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> My decision > > > > >>>> to wear that gift I received has nothing to do > > > with > > > > >>>> procedure of determining proper gemstone It > > is > > > just that I wear > > > > >>>> jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find > > it > > > very entertaining > > > > >>>> to learn about gemstones (not just for past two > > > days), for past > > > > >>>> month or two I had a few dialogues regarding > > same > > > kind of ring that > > > > >>>> you are wearing right now, and it turned out it > > is > > > not suitable for > > > > >>>> me when I was about to buy one. What happened > > > yesterday I consider > > > > >>>> it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for > > > few months. (If I > > > > >>>> suddenly disappear from list it will mean that > > it > > > was a wrong > > > > >>>> decision > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would > > > like to look at > > > > >>>> whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to > > > take it just as an > > > > >>>> opinion. As I have said on the beginning of > > this > > > thread I am not > > > > >>>> quite skilled with this issue, so have this > > > > >>>> in mind (Though it was > > > > >>>> not so difficult for me to say that ruby is > > proper > > > > >>>> gemstone for > > > > >>>> Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so > > > confusing as they > > > > >>>> often could be in various charts. When > > positions > > > in chart are > > > > >>>> complicated I choose to say " I don't know " > > rather > > > than to ruin > > > > >>>> someone's life.) > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > >>>> Maja > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> , Sunil > > > Sharma > > > > >>>> <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Dear Maja, > > > > >>>> > I have been reading each and every message on > > > this thread and, at > > > > >>>> the outset, was surprised to read about > > Neeraj's > > > observations. > > > > >>>> However, things became quite clear later on > > > especially with your > > > > >>>> comments on antardasha. > > > > >>>> > Your very last sentence in your last mail > > (even > > > though chandra is > > > > >>>> not lording my trines) caught my attention. > > > Debilitated chandra (in > > > > >>>> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my > > > chart with exalted > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka > > > > >>>> Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu > > conjoining > > > moon in > > > > >>>> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th > > > > >>>> house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY > > > > >>>> or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, > > the > > > net result is > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already > > > afflicted due to > > > > >>>> debilitation) is afflicted. All this is > > something > > > I have been told > > > > >>>> by various astrologers (not necessarily all at > > the > > > same time). > > > > >>>> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and > > Diamond > > > to me. I am still > > > > >>>> wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand > > > ring finger > > > > >>>> (presently going through Venus dasha), and > > Coral > > > in gold pendant in > > > > >>>> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier > > > but changed it to a > > > > >>>> pendant and wore it in the neck in a black > > string. > > > I have since > > > > >>>> removed it but I must say that whenever I wear > > > Pearl it quietens my > > > > >>>> temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any > > > improvement in my > > > > >>>> career or financial aspects. > > > > >>>> > Now, my real question to you is > > > > >>>> this. Moon being afflicted and > > > > >>>> left hand to be used (for the effect to be > > > reduced), I should > > > > >>>> have > > > > >>>> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You > > > may take few days to > > > > >>>> reply! I am not in a hurry. > > > > >>>> > Regards > > > > >>>> > Sunil > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro > > > <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote: > > > > >>>> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> > > > > >>>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > Gemstones (Swami) > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Om Gurave Namah > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Namaste dear Swami, > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra > > > being unfavorable > > > > >>>> Graha > > > > >>>> > in this chart, those mentioned were the only > > one > > > I could find (and > > > > >>>> > that was after quite some time spent in > > serious > > > thinking). It is > > > > >>>> my > > > > >>>> > mistake to " equalize " effects of Rudra and > > > Maheshvara in Shula > > > > >>>> dasa > > > > >>>> > somewhere in my > > > > >>>> memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I > > did > > > > >>>> say > > > > >>>> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any > > > > >>>> significance to wear gemstone > > > > >>>> > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > So far I was informed about just a few rules > > > regarding determining > > > > >>>> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I > > thought > > > that Ketu/Rahu > > > > >>>> could > > > > >>>> > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th > > > from AK or if Rahu > > > > >>>> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful > > > information about this > > > > >>>> > issue. > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... > > I > > > received one > > > > >>>> > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: > > > silver ring with a > > > > >>>> pearl > > > > >>>> > and matching silver pectoral also decorated > > with > > > pearls. What is > > > > >>>> > this today...? I was never this much involved > > in > > > any thread so > > > > >>>> far. > > > > >>>> > WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear it, even > > > though Chandra is not > > > > >>>> > lording my trines. > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > >>>> > Maja > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > --- In > > > > >>>> , " swami " > > <swami@> > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > >>>> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om, > > > > >>>> > > Dear Maja, > > > > >>>> > > Your insights are great, incidently I was > > > struck at your > > > > >>>> mention > > > > >>>> > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I > > > don't think > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > significance) . > > > > >>>> > > I could not understand How sukra is > > > maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu > > > > >>>> as > > > > >>>> > maheswar planet . that also is appears > > incorrect. > > > > >>>> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu > > so > > > count to 8 th > > > > >>>> would > > > > >>>> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads > > to > > > Leo. > > > > >>>> > > The sign lord is SUN. > > > > >>>> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN > > > becomes Brahma Planet. > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th > > and > > > 12 th from Sun > > > > >>>> the > > > > >>>> > maheswar. > > > > >>>> > > Eight > > > > >>>> lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup. > > > > >>>> > > We apply parashar strength to determne > > > strenth.Ketu and jup are > > > > >>>> > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so > > as > > > per naisargic bal > > > > >>>> Jup > > > > >>>> > is Maheswar. > > > > >>>> > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 > > sutra. > > > > >>>> > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is > > > discussed. > > > > >>>> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih > > > knowledge .So Gem stone of > > > > >>>> > planet that is maheswar if put in left should > > > diminish > > > > >>>> knowledge.If > > > > >>>> > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of > > > vedic shahstra. > > > > >>>> > > Perhaps native has tried many gems. > > > > >>>> > > By the way, influence of wearing planet > > > related to maheshwar is > > > > >>>> > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i > > could > > > access, so this > > > > >>>> > last suggestion may be taken just a logical > > > > >>>> aplication. > > > > >>>> > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment. > > > > >>>> > > with regards. > > > > >>>> > > OM TATSAT > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > --- > > > -- --------- > > > > >>>> > > Swami_RCS > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > --- > > > ----- -------- > > > > >>>> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious > > effulgence > > > of that Divine > > > > >>>> Being > > > > >>>> > who has created the three worlds.May He > > Direct > > > our understanding. " > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > --- > > > ----- --------- -------- > > > > >>>> -- > > > > >>>> > - > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > - > > > > >>>> > > majastrbacastro > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM > > > > >>>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > Gemstones > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?), > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing > > > zircon on his left > > > > >>>> hand, > > > > >>>> > so > > > > >>>> > > that means he was weakening his lord of > > > > >>>> 10th bhava in 9th... > > > > >>>> And > > > > >>>> > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd > > > bhava (which is > > > > >>>> > considered > > > > >>>> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also > > > maheshvara.. . but I don't > > > > >>>> > think > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > significance) . > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > I really dislike complicating simple > > things, > > > but this time I > > > > >>>> can > > > > >>>> > not > > > > >>>> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in > > > Dhanu, yet Mithuna is > > > > >>>> > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra > > and > > > Guru in it. That > > > > >>>> > means > > > > >>>> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his > > > Arudha Lagna. 12th > > > > >>>> lord > > > > >>>> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from > > Arudha > > > Lagna signifies > > > > >>>> > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. > > > These are just > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> thoughts... > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > Regards, > > > > >>>> > > Maja > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > --- In > > > > >>>> , RKM > > > <rajeevmundra@> > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Dear Neeraj > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in > > 9th > > > house which is a > > > > >>>> > Royal > > > > >>>> > > Yoga. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have > > > helped you grow in your > > > > >>>> > > career. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very > > > suitable. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter > > and > > > Moon. -ve. > > > > >>>> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve > > > (but ok if malefic > > > > >>>> > > debiliated in 12th > > > > >>>> > > > house) > > > > >>>> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve. > > > > >>>> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and > > just > > > out > > > > >>>> of 8th house. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and > > relatively > > > unafflicted is > > > > >>>> > working > > > > >>>> > > the > > > > >>>> best. > > > > >>>> > > > Suns stone would probably give you > > better > > > health and overall > > > > >>>> > luck. > > > > >>>> > > > But venus will cause growth in career. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > -- > > > > >>>> > > > Ã'Ã...ò Ã'à " Ã0/00Ã'à " Ã?Ã'à " f > > > Ã'à " ´Ã'à " Æ'Ã'à " ²Ã'à " ¬Ã'à " Ã? > > > > >>>> > > > RKM > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda > > > krsna > > > > >>>> <yasodakrsna@> > > > > >>>> > > wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj, > > > > >>>> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of > > SJC > > > have made error. > > > > >>>> > > > > Particularly in my case was > > recommended > > > Coral by one, > > > > >>>> Ruby > > > > >>>> > by > > > > >>>> > > two. > > > > >>>> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by > > > > >>>> recommended quality > > > > >>>> > gemologist. > > > > >>>> > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not > > by > > > internet > > > > >>>> questions > > > > >>>> > but > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > by paid > > > > >>>> > > > > services. > > > > >>>> > > > > The good thing was the price of gold > > > soared and made good > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > money > > > > >>>> > > by selling > > > > >>>> > > > > it. > > > > >>>> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath > > recommendation > > > of yellow > > > > >>>> sapphire > > > > >>>> > as > > > > >>>> > > it works. > > > > >>>> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their > > > Devata for the > > > > >>>> prediction > > > > >>>> > to > > > > >>>> > > be true. > > > > >>>> > > > > Yasoda. > > > > >>>> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than > > > gemstone if sincere > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ > > 2000@> > > > > >>>> > > > > vedic astrology; > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM > > > > >>>> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > >>>> Choosing Gemstones > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Dear All, > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > It's been more than four years that I > > > studied > > > > >>>> different > > > > >>>> > books on > > > > >>>> > > gemstones > > > > >>>> > > > > and got advise from different good > > > astrologers about the > > > > >>>> > > gemstone. But none > > > > >>>> > > > > of them gave very good result. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > As of now, some of the following > > > theories are present for > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > choosing > > > > >>>> > > > > gemstone. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord > > > > >>>> (recommended by many > > > > >>>> astrologers) > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, > > 5, > > > and 9) - Anukool > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool) > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > However, I recently found that one > > > gemstone worked very > > > > >>>> well > > > > >>>> > for > > > > >>>> > > me. After > > > > >>>> > > > > wearing that I got a very good > > results > > > in my career and > > > > >>>> also > > > > >>>> > my > > > > >>>> > > income > > > > >>>> > > > > increased by more than 100% in > > approx. 4 > > > months. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not > > recommended > > > to me by any > > > > >>>> > astrologer > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > (though I > > > > >>>> > > > > consulted several ones in person) and > > in > > > no such book it > > > > >>>> was > > > > >>>> > > mentioned that > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > I should choose this gemstone. I read > > > approximately 8-10 > > > > >>>> > books > > > > >>>> > > on gem > > > > >>>> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I > > > was not advised to > > > > >>>> > wear > > > > >>>> > > this gemstone. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, > > > Yellow Sapphire and > > > > >>>> Red > > > > >>>> > Coral > > > > >>>> > > by > > > > >>>> > > > > different astrologers. One even > > advised > > > blue sapphire, > > > > >>>> that > > > > >>>> > made > > > > >>>> > > matters > > > > >>>> > > > > worse. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details > > and > > > then I will tell > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > gem > > > > >>>> > > stone that > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > worked for me. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978 > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA) > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon > > > (Substitute of > > > > >>>> Diamond). > > > > >>>> > I > > > > >>>> > > worn this in > > > > >>>> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and > > things > > > started working > > > > >>>> > positive > > > > >>>> > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing > > > exceptional in > > > > >>>> my > > > > >>>> > > personal / work > > > > >>>> > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be > > > noted. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. It's not lord of > > > > >>>> trines. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not > > running. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Still, it gave me good results. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way > > > that may be tried > > > > >>>> if > > > > >>>> > some > > > > >>>> > > one wants > > > > >>>> > > > > to try. Please share your results, so > > > that we can know > > > > >>>> more > > > > >>>> > > about this. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in > > 1,5,9 > > > house. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If > > > any of the planets > > > > >>>> > that > > > > >>>> > > were in 1,5,9 > > > > >>>> > > > > house moves to > > > > >>>> some other house, ignore that planet. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines > > > (1,5,9) in both natal > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > chart > > > > >>>> > > and > > > > >>>> bhava > > > > >>>> > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore > > rahu, > > > ketu) > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found > > till > > > step 3 is > > > > >>>> benefic > > > > >>>> > for > > > > >>>> > > your > > > > >>>> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose > > the > > > main gemstone of > > > > >>>> > that > > > > >>>> > > planet and > > > > >>>> > > > > wear it in the right hand. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet > > that > > > was found in > > > > >>>> step > > > > >>>> 3 > > > > >>>> > is > > > > >>>> > > malefic, > > > > >>>> > > > > then choose the substitute gem for > > that > > > planet and wear > > > > >>>> it > > > > >>>> > in > > > > >>>> > > the left hand. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > The above was just a thought that came to my > > > mind and if > > > > >>>> > some > > > > >>>> > > one wants to > > > > >>>> > > > > try it, they may do so for > > experiment. > > > Kindly share with > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > other > > > > >>>> > > members, if > > > > >>>> > > > > this method works for you. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Regards, > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > >>>> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > >>>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > > Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > > >>>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > > the Great who said > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> that the human > > > > >>>> > stomach should not become a graveyard for > > > animals. > > > > >>>> > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > > one free chart > > > > >>>> reading > > > > >>>> > today > > > > >>>> Links > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > >>>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > >>>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > Mantra 'Hare > > > Rama Krishna' > > > > >>>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > the > > > Great who said that the human > > > > >>>> stomach should not become a graveyard for > > animals. > > > > >>>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > one > > > free chart reading > > > > >>>> today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Soul Sadhak, Namaskar 1. Following Parasara and Jaimini this can show bad expenses..like illegal means, realizing sinful desires, bad planning etc. a) If one can spend on poor/masses (sa) then one is person with resources (surya), actually there is a lot of deep philosophy in the guna- ,vara- , and kalachakra (cycles and structures of energy). 2. If Shani is in 12 from AL then it gives effect of Surya on AL - there is no MKS here. Even then, MKS should be only applied to the default position - not to the transformed one based on one of the chakras. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Soul Sadhak pisze: Dear Rafal, Thanx for the response. Just one more question: As u have said "Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet forward in kalachakra scheme.", e.g. Saturn wud give results of surya, rahu that of guru and mangal that of shukra Now, shani, rahu and mangal are malefics, and malefics 12th to AL wud indicate bad expenses. So how do we actually interpret the malefic placement 12th to AL: Giving bad expenses (and hence maybe good for spirituality) OR behaving as surya/guru/shukra 12th to AL and giving good expenses? Also, if shani is 12th to AL, it will behave as surya in AL - now this wud be a maranakaraka positon of surya wrt AL - how do e interpret that? Many thanx again, SS - sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Maja & SS , Namaskar > > Usually we perscribe gems for kona lords to increase the rise, fortune > and wealth of native. > > Here Mangal is unafflicted and wellplaced so it will give effect of > Lagnesh and not sixth lord. > > Instead Shani will give effect of sixth lord giving problem to pitta and > tridoshic problems of genital area/anus (right side) (82-91). > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste dear Rafal, > > > > I don't have to write too much, question is same (down there in > > previous email from SS). > > > > Help us? > > > > Regards, > > Maja > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > Please can you advise why Coral will be appropriate even though > > Mars > > > is 6th lord? > > > Is it because it lords 9th from AL? > > > > > > Many thanx > > > SS > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar > > > > > > > > 1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the gem will activate > > it. > > > > Parivartana means that Diamond will activate Bu in 3 from AL > > which > > > > afflicts career life and skills of native. > > > > 2. Neck influences thinking. > > > > 3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet forward in > > > kalachakra > > > > scheme. > > > > 4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak. Badhakesh in > > lagna > > > is > > > > corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga > > > > 5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in twelfth. I follow > > Sanjayji > > > who > > > > also looks at lord when bhava is empty. > > > > 6. We can do everything if we know what we are doing. Planets in > > > lagna, > > > > fifth and tenth eclipses the others. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > rajarshi nandy pisze: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was trying to understand your advise to Mr Sunil. It would > > be > > > great > > > > > if you could kindly clarify some points which I could not > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th lord, due to yuti > > > causing > > > > > exchange of effects? > > > > > > > > > > 2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck? What is its > > > significance? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will give effects of > > > shani. > > > > > Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? But i thought > > it > > > was > > > > > for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please tell me the exact > > > rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa badhaka. In that > > > case > > > > > shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to nagraj temple? Why > > is > > > the > > > > > Krishna idol donation neeeded? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Regards > > > > > > > > > > Rajarshi > > > > > > > > > > /* > > > > > *"This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet* > > > > > */ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ >/* wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones > > (Sunil) > > > > > @ . com > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > > > Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze: > > > > > > > > > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > >> Dear Sunil, Namaskar > > > > >> > > > > >> 1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord which is > > > > >> negative, but will also improve the finances and > > Chandra..so > > > its > > > > >> not perfect. Coral has less side-effects here. > > > > >> 2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for karma. > > > > >> 3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified by AK. > > Irs > > > also > > > > >> in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL. > > > > >> 4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial setbacks > > > (rasi) > > > > >> and then improvement (navamsa). > > > > >> 5. Just please try to perform those remedies which I have > > > given > > > > >> in the last mail. > > > > >> > > > > >> Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the Sarpa > > should > > > be > > > > >> broken and the ninth lord should be lifted - Bhuvanesvari. > > > > >> > > > > >> Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be > > remedied > > > by > > > > >> gift of idol/picture related to Sri Krishna. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Regards, > > > > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > >> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > >> > > > > >>> Dear Rafal ji, > > > > >>> Namaskar > > > > >>> Thank you very much for your guidance. I like to hear > > your > > > > >>> comments, not just about me, but even regarding other > > > > >>> person/subject > > > > >>> Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still > > wearing > > > a > > > > >>> Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring finger. > > Should > > > that > > > > >>> be removed too? Not that I see any visible difference > > after > > > > >>> wearing it. > > > > >>> I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean Coral in > > my > > > case) > > > > >>> in gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions for > > this. > > > > >>> Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow > > Sapphire to > > > > >>> boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due to > > > Rahu's 9th > > > > >>> aspect. Is it appropriate? > > > > >>> As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good period > > > since > > > > >>> the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic gains > > > now and > > > > >>> then but nothing substantial. I would love to change the > > > > >>> situation, if I can, and solicit your advice in this > > > regard. If > > > > >>> you will be kind enough to please give me a clear idea > > what > > > I > > > > >>> can do. > > > > >>> Regards > > > > >>> Sunil > > > > >>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ > > wp.pl>/* > > > wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > > > > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > Gemstones > > > (Sunil) > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM > > > > >>> > > > > >>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > >>> Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > >>> > > > > >>> You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with > > rahu in > > > > >>> Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna idol/picture to > > > > >>> temple/spiritual person. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> You can wear only Coral. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in > > > third/ninth > > > > >>> - only in dasa of this malefic - instead use right > > hand > > > with > > > > >>> fortune-gem. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana and > > > > >>> worship Hanumanji sincerly! > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome > > as > > > its > > > > >>> the strength period (neechavastha) , after initial > > > struggle > > > > >>> there should be improvement due to exaltation in d9. > > > This > > > > >>> period works for spirituality a lot due to karakaamsa > > > > >>> position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra and > > being > > > GK > > > > >>> it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be > > > > >>> strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact > > that > > > Mo > > > > >>> in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H). > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Regards, > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > >>> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com/ > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/>> / > > > email: > > > > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > >>>> Dear Maja, > > > > >>>> I fully appreciate your openness about various > > > observations > > > > >>>> made so far. At least you are better than me when > > you > > > say > > > > >>>> few charts are clear to you. To me all of them look > > > confusing. > > > > >>>> My birth data is as follows: > > > > >>>> DOB: 21st September 1955 > > > > >>>> TOB: 10:32 A.M. > > > > >>>> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27) > > > > >>>> Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am > > not > > > in a > > > > >>>> hurry. > > > > >>>> Regards > > > > >>>> Sunil > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, > > majastrbacastro /<majastrbacastro@ > > > > >>>> > <majastrbaca stro@>/* wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ > > > > > > > >>>> <majastrbaca stro@> > > > > >>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > Gemstones > > > (Sunil) > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Om Gurave Namah > > > > >>>> Dear Sunil, > > > > >>>> Namaste > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> My decision > > > > >>>> to wear that gift I received has nothing to do > > > with > > > > >>>> procedure of determining proper gemstone It > > is > > > just that I wear > > > > >>>> jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find > > it > > > very entertaining > > > > >>>> to learn about gemstones (not just for past two > > > days), for past > > > > >>>> month or two I had a few dialogues regarding > > same > > > kind of ring that > > > > >>>> you are wearing right now, and it turned out it > > is > > > not suitable for > > > > >>>> me when I was about to buy one. What happened > > > yesterday I consider > > > > >>>> it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for > > > few months. (If I > > > > >>>> suddenly disappear from list it will mean that > > it > > > was a wrong > > > > >>>> decision > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would > > > like to look at > > > > >>>> whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to > > > take it just as an > > > > >>>> opinion. As I have said on the beginning of > > this > > > thread I am not > > > > >>>> quite skilled with this issue, so have this > > > > >>>> in mind (Though it was > > > > >>>> not so difficult for me to say that ruby is > > proper > > > > >>>> gemstone for > > > > >>>> Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so > > > confusing as they > > > > >>>> often could be in various charts. When > > positions > > > in chart are > > > > >>>> complicated I choose to say "I don't know" > > rather > > > than to ruin > > > > >>>> someone's life.) > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > >>>> Maja > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> @ . com, Sunil > > > Sharma > > > > >>>> <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Dear Maja, > > > > >>>> > I have been reading each and every message on > > > this thread and, at > > > > >>>> the outset, was surprised to read about > > Neeraj's > > > observations. > > > > >>>> However, things became quite clear later on > > > especially with your > > > > >>>> comments on antardasha. > > > > >>>> > Your very last sentence in your last mail > > (even > > > though chandra is > > > > >>>> not lording my trines) caught my attention. > > > Debilitated chandra (in > > > > >>>> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my > > > chart with exalted > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka > > > > >>>> Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu > > conjoining > > > moon in > > > > >>>> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th > > > > >>>> house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY > > > > >>>> or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, > > the > > > net result is > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already > > > afflicted due to > > > > >>>> debilitation) is afflicted. All this is > > something > > > I have been told > > > > >>>> by various astrologers (not necessarily all at > > the > > > same time). > > > > >>>> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and > > Diamond > > > to me. I am still > > > > >>>> wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand > > > ring finger > > > > >>>> (presently going through Venus dasha), and > > Coral > > > in gold pendant in > > > > >>>> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier > > > but changed it to a > > > > >>>> pendant and wore it in the neck in a black > > string. > > > I have since > > > > >>>> removed it but I must say that whenever I wear > > > Pearl it quietens my > > > > >>>> temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any > > > improvement in my > > > > >>>> career or financial aspects. > > > > >>>> > Now, my real question to you is > > > > >>>> this. Moon being afflicted and > > > > >>>> left hand to be used (for the effect to be > > > reduced), I should > > > > >>>> have > > > > >>>> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You > > > may take few days to > > > > >>>> reply! I am not in a hurry. > > > > >>>> > Regards > > > > >>>> > Sunil > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro > > > <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote: > > > > >>>> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> > > > > >>>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > Gemstones (Swami) > > > > >>>> > @ . com > > > > >>>> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Om Gurave Namah > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Namaste dear Swami, > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra > > > being unfavorable > > > > >>>> Graha > > > > >>>> > in this chart, those mentioned were the only > > one > > > I could find (and > > > > >>>> > that was after quite some time spent in > > serious > > > thinking). It is > > > > >>>> my > > > > >>>> > mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra and > > > Maheshvara in Shula > > > > >>>> dasa > > > > >>>> > somewhere in my > > > > >>>> memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I > > did > > > > >>>> say > > > > >>>> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any > > > > >>>> significance to wear gemstone > > > > >>>> > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > So far I was informed about just a few rules > > > regarding determining > > > > >>>> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I > > thought > > > that Ketu/Rahu > > > > >>>> could > > > > >>>> > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th > > > from AK or if Rahu > > > > >>>> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful > > > information about this > > > > >>>> > issue. > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... > > I > > > received one > > > > >>>> > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: > > > silver ring with a > > > > >>>> pearl > > > > >>>> > and matching silver pectoral also decorated > > with > > > pearls. What is > > > > >>>> > this today...? I was never this much involved > > in > > > any thread so > > > > >>>> far. > > > > >>>> > WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear it, even > > > though Chandra is not > > > > >>>> > lording my trines. > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > >>>> > Maja > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > --- In > > > > >>>> , "swami" > > <swami@> > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > >>>> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om, > > > > >>>> > > Dear Maja, > > > > >>>> > > Your insights are great, incidently I was > > > struck at your > > > > >>>> mention > > > > >>>> > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I > > > don't think > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > significance) . > > > > >>>> > > I could not understand How sukra is > > > maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu > > > > >>>> as > > > > >>>> > maheswar planet . that also is appears > > incorrect. > > > > >>>> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu > > so > > > count to 8 th > > > > >>>> would > > > > >>>> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads > > to > > > Leo. > > > > >>>> > > The sign lord is SUN. > > > > >>>> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN > > > becomes Brahma Planet. > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th > > and > > > 12 th from Sun > > > > >>>> the > > > > >>>> > maheswar. > > > > >>>> > > Eight > > > > >>>> lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup. > > > > >>>> > > We apply parashar strength to determne > > > strenth.Ketu and jup are > > > > >>>> > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so > > as > > > per naisargic bal > > > > >>>> Jup > > > > >>>> > is Maheswar. > > > > >>>> > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 > > sutra. > > > > >>>> > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is > > > discussed. > > > > >>>> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih > > > knowledge .So Gem stone of > > > > >>>> > planet that is maheswar if put in left should > > > diminish > > > > >>>> knowledge.If > > > > >>>> > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of > > > vedic shahstra. > > > > >>>> > > Perhaps native has tried many gems. > > > > >>>> > > By the way, influence of wearing planet > > > related to maheshwar is > > > > >>>> > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i > > could > > > access, so this > > > > >>>> > last suggestion may be taken just a logical > > > > >>>> aplication. > > > > >>>> > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment. > > > > >>>> > > with regards. > > > > >>>> > > OM TATSAT > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > --- > > > -- --------- > > > > >>>> > > Swami_RCS > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > --- > > > ----- -------- > > > > >>>> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious > > effulgence > > > of that Divine > > > > >>>> Being > > > > >>>> > who has created the three worlds.May He > > Direct > > > our understanding. " > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > --- > > > ----- --------- -------- > > > > >>>> -- > > > > >>>> > - > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > >>>> > > majastrbacastro > > > > >>>> > > @ . com > > > > >>>> > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM > > > > >>>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > Gemstones > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?), > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing > > > zircon on his left > > > > >>>> hand, > > > > >>>> > so > > > > >>>> > > that means he was weakening his lord of > > > > >>>> 10th bhava in 9th... > > > > >>>> And > > > > >>>> > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd > > > bhava (which is > > > > >>>> > considered > > > > >>>> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also > > > maheshvara.. . but I don't > > > > >>>> > think > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > significance) . > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > I really dislike complicating simple > > things, > > > but this time I > > > > >>>> can > > > > >>>> > not > > > > >>>> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in > > > Dhanu, yet Mithuna is > > > > >>>> > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra > > and > > > Guru in it. That > > > > >>>> > means > > > > >>>> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his > > > Arudha Lagna. 12th > > > > >>>> lord > > > > >>>> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from > > Arudha > > > Lagna signifies > > > > >>>> > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. > > > These are just > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> thoughts... > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > Regards, > > > > >>>> > > Maja > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > --- In > > > > >>>> , RKM > > > <rajeevmundra@ > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Dear Neeraj > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in > > 9th > > > house which is a > > > > >>>> > Royal > > > > >>>> > > Yoga. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have > > > helped you grow in your > > > > >>>> > > career. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very > > > suitable. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter > > and > > > Moon. -ve. > > > > >>>> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve > > > (but ok if malefic > > > > >>>> > > debiliated in 12th > > > > >>>> > > > house) > > > > >>>> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve. > > > > >>>> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and > > just > > > out > > > > >>>> of 8th house. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and > > relatively > > > unafflicted is > > > > >>>> > working > > > > >>>> > > the > > > > >>>> best. > > > > >>>> > > > Suns stone would probably give you > > better > > > health and overall > > > > >>>> > luck. > > > > >>>> > > > But venus will cause growth in career. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > -- > > > > >>>> > > > Ã'Ã...ò Ã'Ã"Ã0/00Ã'Ã"Ã?Ã'Ã"f > > > Ã'Ã"´Ã'Ã"Æ'Ã'Ã"²Ã'Ã"¬Ã'Ã"Ã? > > > > >>>> > > > RKM > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda > > > krsna > > > > >>>> <yasodakrsna@ > > > > > >>>> > > wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj, > > > > >>>> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of > > SJC > > > have made error. > > > > >>>> > > > > Particularly in my case was > > recommended > > > Coral by one, > > > > >>>> Ruby > > > > >>>> > by > > > > >>>> > > two. > > > > >>>> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by > > > > >>>> recommended quality > > > > >>>> > gemologist. > > > > >>>> > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not > > by > > > internet > > > > >>>> questions > > > > >>>> > but > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > by paid > > > > >>>> > > > > services. > > > > >>>> > > > > The good thing was the price of gold > > > soared and made good > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > money > > > > >>>> > > by selling > > > > >>>> > > > > it. > > > > >>>> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath > > recommendation > > > of yellow > > > > >>>> sapphire > > > > >>>> > as > > > > >>>> > > it works. > > > > >>>> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their > > > Devata for the > > > > >>>> prediction > > > > >>>> > to > > > > >>>> > > be true. > > > > >>>> > > > > Yasoda. > > > > >>>> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than > > > gemstone if sincere > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ > > 2000@> > > > > >>>> > > > > To: vedic astrology; > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM > > > > >>>> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > >>>> Choosing Gemstones > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Dear All, > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > It's been more than four years that I > > > studied > > > > >>>> different > > > > >>>> > books on > > > > >>>> > > gemstones > > > > >>>> > > > > and got advise from different good > > > astrologers about the > > > > >>>> > > gemstone. But none > > > > >>>> > > > > of them gave very good result. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > As of now, some of the following > > > theories are present for > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > choosing > > > > >>>> > > > > gemstone. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord > > > > >>>> (recommended by many > > > > >>>> astrologers) > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, > > 5, > > > and 9) - Anukool > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool) > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > However, I recently found that one > > > gemstone worked very > > > > >>>> well > > > > >>>> > for > > > > >>>> > > me. After > > > > >>>> > > > > wearing that I got a very good > > results > > > in my career and > > > > >>>> also > > > > >>>> > my > > > > >>>> > > income > > > > >>>> > > > > increased by more than 100% in > > approx. 4 > > > months. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not > > recommended > > > to me by any > > > > >>>> > astrologer > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > (though I > > > > >>>> > > > > consulted several ones in person) and > > in > > > no such book it > > > > >>>> was > > > > >>>> > > mentioned that > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > I should choose this gemstone. I read > > > approximately 8-10 > > > > >>>> > books > > > > >>>> > > on gem > > > > >>>> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I > > > was not advised to > > > > >>>> > wear > > > > >>>> > > this gemstone. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, > > > Yellow Sapphire and > > > > >>>> Red > > > > >>>> > Coral > > > > >>>> > > by > > > > >>>> > > > > different astrologers. One even > > advised > > > blue sapphire, > > > > >>>> that > > > > >>>> > made > > > > >>>> > > matters > > > > >>>> > > > > worse. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details > > and > > > then I will tell > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > gem > > > > >>>> > > stone that > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > worked for me. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978 > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA) > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon > > > (Substitute of > > > > >>>> Diamond). > > > > >>>> > I > > > > >>>> > > worn this in > > > > >>>> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and > > things > > > started working > > > > >>>> > positive > > > > >>>> > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing > > > exceptional in > > > > >>>> my > > > > >>>> > > personal / work > > > > >>>> > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be > > > noted. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. It's not lord of > > > > >>>> trines. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not > > running. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Still, it gave me good results. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way > > > that may be tried > > > > >>>> if > > > > >>>> > some > > > > >>>> > > one wants > > > > >>>> > > > > to try. Please share your results, so > > > that we can know > > > > >>>> more > > > > >>>> > > about this. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in > > 1,5,9 > > > house. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If > > > any of the planets > > > > >>>> > that > > > > >>>> > > were in 1,5,9 > > > > >>>> > > > > house moves to > > > > >>>> some other house, ignore that planet. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines > > > (1,5,9) in both natal > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > chart > > > > >>>> > > and > > > > >>>> bhava > > > > >>>> > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore > > rahu, > > > ketu) > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found > > till > > > step 3 is > > > > >>>> benefic > > > > >>>> > for > > > > >>>> > > your > > > > >>>> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose > > the > > > main gemstone of > > > > >>>> > that > > > > >>>> > > planet and > > > > >>>> > > > > wear it in the right hand. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet > > that > > > was found in > > > > >>>> step > > > > >>>> 3 > > > > >>>> > is > > > > >>>> > > malefic, > > > > >>>> > > > > then choose the substitute gem for > > that > > > planet and wear > > > > >>>> it > > > > >>>> > in > > > > >>>> > > the left hand. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > The above was just a thought that came to my > > > mind and if > > > > >>>> > some > > > > >>>> > > one wants to > > > > >>>> > > > > try it, they may do so for > > experiment. > > > Kindly share with > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > other > > > > >>>> > > members, if > > > > >>>> > > > > this method works for you. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Regards, > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > >>>> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > >>>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > > Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > > >>>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > > the Great who said > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> that the human > > > > >>>> > stomach should not become a graveyard for > > > animals. > > > > >>>> > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > > one free chart > > > > >>>> reading > > > > >>>> > today > > > > >>>> Links > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > >>>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > >>>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > Mantra 'Hare > > > Rama Krishna' > > > > >>>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > the > > > Great who said that the human > > > > >>>> stomach should not become a graveyard for > > animals. > > > > >>>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > one > > > free chart reading > > > > >>>> today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Maja, Namaskar 1. Why is it frustrating for Kanya with Shukra in trika? Do you mean it takes away the viveka to choose a gem as general or its problematic to choose a gem for you? For your chart its diamond..easy. 2. In choosing a gem the planet (gem-karaka) should bless one with the material / emotional goods. So dusthana, maraka, badhakesh, neelam can be good depending on a chart - as they can provide goods to the native. Sri Jagannath Center tries to teach class of astrologers which will rise above those generalizations like 'dusthana is bad, maraka is bad, badhakesh is bad' etc..thats kindergarden astrology. Badhakesh many times is blessing to the native. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Maja Strbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Namaste dear Rafal ji, Ohh... so that was the catch! Thank you very much. It is just that I find following list very frustrating sometimes: Lord of 2nd & 7th, maraka-NO! Lord of 6, 8 & 12th, dustahn-NO! Lord of 3rd & 11th, trika-NO! Graha in dustahn-NO! Graha in trika-NO! Badhakesh-NO! Blue sapphire-NO! Green emerald-NO! (I also find it very frustrating because I am Kanya lagna with Sukra in trika bhava Regards, Maja Hari Om Tat Sat sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Maja & SS , Namaskar > > Usually we perscribe gems for kona lords to increase the rise, fortune > and wealth of native. > > Here Mangal is unafflicted and wellplaced so it will give effect of > Lagnesh and not sixth lord. > > Instead Shani will give effect of sixth lord giving problem to pitta and > tridoshic problems of genital area/anus (right side) (82-91). > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste dear Rafal, > > > > I don't have to write too much, question is same (down there in > > previous email from SS). > > > > Help us? > > > > Regards, > > Maja > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > Please can you advise why Coral will be appropriate even though > > Mars > > > is 6th lord? > > > Is it because it lords 9th from AL? > > > > > > Many thanx > > > SS > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar > > > > > > > > 1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the gem will activate > > it. > > > > Parivartana means that Diamond will activate Bu in 3 from AL > > which > > > > afflicts career life and skills of native. > > > > 2. Neck influences thinking. > > > > 3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet forward in > > > kalachakra > > > > scheme. > > > > 4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak. Badhakesh in > > lagna > > > is > > > > corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga > > > > 5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in twelfth. I follow > > Sanjayji > > > who > > > > also looks at lord when bhava is empty. > > > > 6. We can do everything if we know what we are doing. Planets in > > > lagna, > > > > fifth and tenth eclipses the others. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > www: http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > rajarshi nandy pisze: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was trying to understand your advise to Mr Sunil. It would > > be > > > great > > > > > if you could kindly clarify some points which I could not > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th lord, due to yuti > > > causing > > > > > exchange of effects? > > > > > > > > > > 2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck? What is its > > > significance? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will give effects of > > > shani. > > > > > Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? But i thought > > it > > > was > > > > > for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please tell me the exact > > > rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa badhaka. In that > > > case > > > > > shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to nagraj temple? Why > > is > > > the > > > > > Krishna idol donation neeeded? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Regards > > > > > > > > > > Rajarshi > > > > > > > > > > /* > > > > > *"This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet* > > > > > */ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@>/* wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones > > (Sunil) > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > > Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze: > > > > > > > > > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > >> Dear Sunil, Namaskar > > > > >> > > > > >> 1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord which is > > > > >> negative, but will also improve the finances and > > Chandra..so > > > its > > > > >> not perfect. Coral has less side-effects here. > > > > >> 2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for karma. > > > > >> 3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified by AK. > > Irs > > > also > > > > >> in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL. > > > > >> 4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial setbacks > > > (rasi) > > > > >> and then improvement (navamsa). > > > > >> 5. Just please try to perform those remedies which I have > > > given > > > > >> in the last mail. > > > > >> > > > > >> Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the Sarpa > > should > > > be > > > > >> broken and the ninth lord should be lifted - Bhuvanesvari. > > > > >> > > > > >> Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be > > remedied > > > by > > > > >> gift of idol/picture related to Sri Krishna. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Regards, > > > > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > >> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > >> > > > > >>> Dear Rafal ji, > > > > >>> Namaskar > > > > >>> Thank you very much for your guidance. I like to hear > > your > > > > >>> comments, not just about me, but even regarding other > > > > >>> person/subject > > > > >>> Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still > > wearing > > > a > > > > >>> Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring finger. > > Should > > > that > > > > >>> be removed too? Not that I see any visible difference > > after > > > > >>> wearing it. > > > > >>> I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean Coral in > > my > > > case) > > > > >>> in gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions for > > this. > > > > >>> Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow > > Sapphire to > > > > >>> boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due to > > > Rahu's 9th > > > > >>> aspect. Is it appropriate? > > > > >>> As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good period > > > since > > > > >>> the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic gains > > > now and > > > > >>> then but nothing substantial. I would love to change the > > > > >>> situation, if I can, and solicit your advice in this > > > regard. If > > > > >>> you will be kind enough to please give me a clear idea > > what > > > I > > > > >>> can do. > > > > >>> Regards > > > > >>> Sunil > > > > >>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ > > wp.pl>/* > > > wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > > > > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > Gemstones > > > (Sunil) > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM > > > > >>> > > > > >>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > >>> Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > >>> > > > > >>> You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with > > rahu in > > > > >>> Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna idol/picture to > > > > >>> temple/spiritual person. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> You can wear only Coral. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in > > > third/ninth > > > > >>> - only in dasa of this malefic - instead use right > > hand > > > with > > > > >>> fortune-gem. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana and > > > > >>> worship Hanumanji sincerly! > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome > > as > > > its > > > > >>> the strength period (neechavastha) , after initial > > > struggle > > > > >>> there should be improvement due to exaltation in d9. > > > This > > > > >>> period works for spirituality a lot due to karakaamsa > > > > >>> position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra and > > being > > > GK > > > > >>> it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be > > > > >>> strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact > > that > > > Mo > > > > >>> in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H). > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Regards, > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > >>> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa.com/ > > <http://www.rohinaa.com/>> / > > > email: > > > > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > >>>> Dear Maja, > > > > >>>> I fully appreciate your openness about various > > > observations > > > > >>>> made so far. At least you are better than me when > > you > > > say > > > > >>>> few charts are clear to you. To me all of them look > > > confusing. > > > > >>>> My birth data is as follows: > > > > >>>> DOB: 21st September 1955 > > > > >>>> TOB: 10:32 A.M. > > > > >>>> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27) > > > > >>>> Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am > > not > > > in a > > > > >>>> hurry. > > > > >>>> Regards > > > > >>>> Sunil > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, > > majastrbacastro /<majastrbacastro@ > > > > >>>> > <majastrbacastro@>/* wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ > > > > > > > >>>> <majastrbacastro@> > > > > >>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > Gemstones > > > (Sunil) > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Om Gurave Namah > > > > >>>> Dear Sunil, > > > > >>>> Namaste > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> My decision > > > > >>>> to wear that gift I received has nothing to do > > > with > > > > >>>> procedure of determining proper gemstone It > > is > > > just that I wear > > > > >>>> jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find > > it > > > very entertaining > > > > >>>> to learn about gemstones (not just for past two > > > days), for past > > > > >>>> month or two I had a few dialogues regarding > > same > > > kind of ring that > > > > >>>> you are wearing right now, and it turned out it > > is > > > not suitable for > > > > >>>> me when I was about to buy one. What happened > > > yesterday I consider > > > > >>>> it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for > > > few months. (If I > > > > >>>> suddenly disappear from list it will mean that > > it > > > was a wrong > > > > >>>> decision > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would > > > like to look at > > > > >>>> whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to > > > take it just as an > > > > >>>> opinion. As I have said on the beginning of > > this > > > thread I am not > > > > >>>> quite skilled with this issue, so have this > > > > >>>> in mind (Though it was > > > > >>>> not so difficult for me to say that ruby is > > proper > > > > >>>> gemstone for > > > > >>>> Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so > > > confusing as they > > > > >>>> often could be in various charts. When > > positions > > > in chart are > > > > >>>> complicated I choose to say "I don't know" > > rather > > > than to ruin > > > > >>>> someone's life.) > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > >>>> Maja > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> @ . com, Sunil > > > Sharma > > > > >>>> <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Dear Maja, > > > > >>>> > I have been reading each and every message on > > > this thread and, at > > > > >>>> the outset, was surprised to read about > > Neeraj's > > > observations. > > > > >>>> However, things became quite clear later on > > > especially with your > > > > >>>> comments on antardasha. > > > > >>>> > Your very last sentence in your last mail > > (even > > > though chandra is > > > > >>>> not lording my trines) caught my attention. > > > Debilitated chandra (in > > > > >>>> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my > > > chart with exalted > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka > > > > >>>> Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu > > conjoining > > > moon in > > > > >>>> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th > > > > >>>> house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY > > > > >>>> or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, > > the > > > net result is > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already > > > afflicted due to > > > > >>>> debilitation) is afflicted. All this is > > something > > > I have been told > > > > >>>> by various astrologers (not necessarily all at > > the > > > same time). > > > > >>>> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and > > Diamond > > > to me. I am still > > > > >>>> wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand > > > ring finger > > > > >>>> (presently going through Venus dasha), and > > Coral > > > in gold pendant in > > > > >>>> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier > > > but changed it to a > > > > >>>> pendant and wore it in the neck in a black > > string. > > > I have since > > > > >>>> removed it but I must say that whenever I wear > > > Pearl it quietens my > > > > >>>> temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any > > > improvement in my > > > > >>>> career or financial aspects. > > > > >>>> > Now, my real question to you is > > > > >>>> this. Moon being afflicted and > > > > >>>> left hand to be used (for the effect to be > > > reduced), I should > > > > >>>> have > > > > >>>> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You > > > may take few days to > > > > >>>> reply! I am not in a hurry. > > > > >>>> > Regards > > > > >>>> > Sunil > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro > > > <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote: > > > > >>>> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> > > > > >>>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > Gemstones (Swami) > > > > >>>> > @ . com > > > > >>>> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Om Gurave Namah > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Namaste dear Swami, > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra > > > being unfavorable > > > > >>>> Graha > > > > >>>> > in this chart, those mentioned were the only > > one > > > I could find (and > > > > >>>> > that was after quite some time spent in > > serious > > > thinking). It is > > > > >>>> my > > > > >>>> > mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra and > > > Maheshvara in Shula > > > > >>>> dasa > > > > >>>> > somewhere in my > > > > >>>> memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I > > did > > > > >>>> say > > > > >>>> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any > > > > >>>> significance to wear gemstone > > > > >>>> > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > So far I was informed about just a few rules > > > regarding determining > > > > >>>> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I > > thought > > > that Ketu/Rahu > > > > >>>> could > > > > >>>> > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th > > > from AK or if Rahu > > > > >>>> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful > > > information about this > > > > >>>> > issue. > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... > > I > > > received one > > > > >>>> > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: > > > silver ring with a > > > > >>>> pearl > > > > >>>> > and matching silver pectoral also decorated > > with > > > pearls. What is > > > > >>>> > this today...? I was never this much involved > > in > > > any thread so > > > > >>>> far. > > > > >>>> > WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear it, even > > > though Chandra is not > > > > >>>> > lording my trines. > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > >>>> > Maja > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > --- In > > > > >>>> , "swami" > > <swami@> > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > >>>> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om, > > > > >>>> > > Dear Maja, > > > > >>>> > > Your insights are great, incidently I was > > > struck at your > > > > >>>> mention > > > > >>>> > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I > > > don't think > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > significance) . > > > > >>>> > > I could not understand How sukra is > > > maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu > > > > >>>> as > > > > >>>> > maheswar planet . that also is appears > > incorrect. > > > > >>>> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu > > so > > > count to 8 th > > > > >>>> would > > > > >>>> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads > > to > > > Leo. > > > > >>>> > > The sign lord is SUN. > > > > >>>> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN > > > becomes Brahma Planet. > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th > > and > > > 12 th from Sun > > > > >>>> the > > > > >>>> > maheswar. > > > > >>>> > > Eight > > > > >>>> lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup. > > > > >>>> > > We apply parashar strength to determne > > > strenth.Ketu and jup are > > > > >>>> > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so > > as > > > per naisargic bal > > > > >>>> Jup > > > > >>>> > is Maheswar. > > > > >>>> > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 > > sutra. > > > > >>>> > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is > > > discussed. > > > > >>>> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih > > > knowledge .So Gem stone of > > > > >>>> > planet that is maheswar if put in left should > > > diminish > > > > >>>> knowledge.If > > > > >>>> > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of > > > vedic shahstra. > > > > >>>> > > Perhaps native has tried many gems. > > > > >>>> > > By the way, influence of wearing planet > > > related to maheshwar is > > > > >>>> > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i > > could > > > access, so this > > > > >>>> > last suggestion may be taken just a logical > > > > >>>> aplication. > > > > >>>> > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment. > > > > >>>> > > with regards. > > > > >>>> > > OM TATSAT > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > --- > > > -- --------- > > > > >>>> > > Swami_RCS > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > --- > > > ----- -------- > > > > >>>> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious > > effulgence > > > of that Divine > > > > >>>> Being > > > > >>>> > who has created the three worlds.May He > > Direct > > > our understanding. " > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > --- > > > ----- --------- -------- > > > > >>>> -- > > > > >>>> > - > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > >>>> > > majastrbacastro > > > > >>>> > > @ . com > > > > >>>> > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM > > > > >>>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > Gemstones > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?), > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing > > > zircon on his left > > > > >>>> hand, > > > > >>>> > so > > > > >>>> > > that means he was weakening his lord of > > > > >>>> 10th bhava in 9th... > > > > >>>> And > > > > >>>> > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd > > > bhava (which is > > > > >>>> > considered > > > > >>>> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also > > > maheshvara.. . but I don't > > > > >>>> > think > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > significance) . > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > I really dislike complicating simple > > things, > > > but this time I > > > > >>>> can > > > > >>>> > not > > > > >>>> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in > > > Dhanu, yet Mithuna is > > > > >>>> > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra > > and > > > Guru in it. That > > > > >>>> > means > > > > >>>> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his > > > Arudha Lagna. 12th > > > > >>>> lord > > > > >>>> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from > > Arudha > > > Lagna signifies > > > > >>>> > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. > > > These are just > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> thoughts... > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > Regards, > > > > >>>> > > Maja > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > --- In > > > > >>>> , RKM > > > <rajeevmundra@> > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Dear Neeraj > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in > > 9th > > > house which is a > > > > >>>> > Royal > > > > >>>> > > Yoga. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have > > > helped you grow in your > > > > >>>> > > career. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very > > > suitable. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter > > and > > > Moon. -ve. > > > > >>>> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve > > > (but ok if malefic > > > > >>>> > > debiliated in 12th > > > > >>>> > > > house) > > > > >>>> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve. > > > > >>>> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and > > just > > > out > > > > >>>> of 8th house. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and > > relatively > > > unafflicted is > > > > >>>> > working > > > > >>>> > > the > > > > >>>> best. > > > > >>>> > > > Suns stone would probably give you > > better > > > health and overall > > > > >>>> > luck. > > > > >>>> > > > But venus will cause growth in career. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > -- > > > > >>>> > > > Ã'Ã...ò Ã'Ã"Ã0/00Ã'Ã"Ã?Ã'Ã"f > > > Ã'Ã"´Ã'Ã"Æ'Ã'Ã"²Ã'Ã"¬Ã'Ã"Ã? > > > > >>>> > > > RKM > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda > > > krsna > > > > >>>> <yasodakrsna@> > > > > >>>> > > wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj, > > > > >>>> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of > > SJC > > > have made error. > > > > >>>> > > > > Particularly in my case was > > recommended > > > Coral by one, > > > > >>>> Ruby > > > > >>>> > by > > > > >>>> > > two. > > > > >>>> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by > > > > >>>> recommended quality > > > > >>>> > gemologist. > > > > >>>> > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not > > by > > > internet > > > > >>>> questions > > > > >>>> > but > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > by paid > > > > >>>> > > > > services. > > > > >>>> > > > > The good thing was the price of gold > > > soared and made good > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > money > > > > >>>> > > by selling > > > > >>>> > > > > it. > > > > >>>> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath > > recommendation > > > of yellow > > > > >>>> sapphire > > > > >>>> > as > > > > >>>> > > it works. > > > > >>>> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their > > > Devata for the > > > > >>>> prediction > > > > >>>> > to > > > > >>>> > > be true. > > > > >>>> > > > > Yasoda. > > > > >>>> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than > > > gemstone if sincere > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ > > 2000@> > > > > >>>> > > > > To: vedic astrology; > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM > > > > >>>> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > >>>> Choosing Gemstones > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Dear All, > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > It's been more than four years that I > > > studied > > > > >>>> different > > > > >>>> > books on > > > > >>>> > > gemstones > > > > >>>> > > > > and got advise from different good > > > astrologers about the > > > > >>>> > > gemstone. But none > > > > >>>> > > > > of them gave very good result. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > As of now, some of the following > > > theories are present for > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > choosing > > > > >>>> > > > > gemstone. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord > > > > >>>> (recommended by many > > > > >>>> astrologers) > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, > > 5, > > > and 9) - Anukool > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool) > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > However, I recently found that one > > > gemstone worked very > > > > >>>> well > > > > >>>> > for > > > > >>>> > > me. After > > > > >>>> > > > > wearing that I got a very good > > results > > > in my career and > > > > >>>> also > > > > >>>> > my > > > > >>>> > > income > > > > >>>> > > > > increased by more than 100% in > > approx. 4 > > > months. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not > > recommended > > > to me by any > > > > >>>> > astrologer > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > (though I > > > > >>>> > > > > consulted several ones in person) and > > in > > > no such book it > > > > >>>> was > > > > >>>> > > mentioned that > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > I should choose this gemstone. I read > > > approximately 8-10 > > > > >>>> > books > > > > >>>> > > on gem > > > > >>>> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I > > > was not advised to > > > > >>>> > wear > > > > >>>> > > this gemstone. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, > > > Yellow Sapphire and > > > > >>>> Red > > > > >>>> > Coral > > > > >>>> > > by > > > > >>>> > > > > different astrologers. One even > > advised > > > blue sapphire, > > > > >>>> that > > > > >>>> > made > > > > >>>> > > matters > > > > >>>> > > > > worse. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details > > and > > > then I will tell > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > gem > > > > >>>> > > stone that > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > worked for me. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978 > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA) > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon > > > (Substitute of > > > > >>>> Diamond). > > > > >>>> > I > > > > >>>> > > worn this in > > > > >>>> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and > > things > > > started working > > > > >>>> > positive > > > > >>>> > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing > > > exceptional in > > > > >>>> my > > > > >>>> > > personal / work > > > > >>>> > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be > > > noted. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. It's not lord of > > > > >>>> trines. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not > > running. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Still, it gave me good results. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way > > > that may be tried > > > > >>>> if > > > > >>>> > some > > > > >>>> > > one wants > > > > >>>> > > > > to try. Please share your results, so > > > that we can know > > > > >>>> more > > > > >>>> > > about this. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in > > 1,5,9 > > > house. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If > > > any of the planets > > > > >>>> > that > > > > >>>> > > were in 1,5,9 > > > > >>>> > > > > house moves to > > > > >>>> some other house, ignore that planet. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines > > > (1,5,9) in both natal > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > chart > > > > >>>> > > and > > > > >>>> bhava > > > > >>>> > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore > > rahu, > > > ketu) > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found > > till > > > step 3 is > > > > >>>> benefic > > > > >>>> > for > > > > >>>> > > your > > > > >>>> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose > > the > > > main gemstone of > > > > >>>> > that > > > > >>>> > > planet and > > > > >>>> > > > > wear it in the right hand. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet > > that > > > was found in > > > > >>>> step > > > > >>>> 3 > > > > >>>> > is > > > > >>>> > > malefic, > > > > >>>> > > > > then choose the substitute gem for > > that > > > planet and wear > > > > >>>> it > > > > >>>> > in > > > > >>>> > > the left hand. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > The above was just a thought that came to my > > > mind and if > > > > >>>> > some > > > > >>>> > > one wants to > > > > >>>> > > > > try it, they may do so for > > experiment. > > > Kindly share with > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > other > > > > >>>> > > members, if > > > > >>>> > > > > this method works for you. > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Regards, > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > >>>> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > >>>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > > Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > > >>>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > > the Great who said > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> that the human > > > > >>>> > stomach should not become a graveyard for > > > animals. > > > > >>>> > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > > one free chart > > > > >>>> reading > > > > >>>> > today > > > > >>>> Links > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > >>>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > >>>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > Mantra 'Hare > > > Rama Krishna' > > > > >>>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > the > > > Great who said that the human > > > > >>>> stomach should not become a graveyard for > > animals. > > > > >>>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > one > > > free chart reading > > > > >>>> today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Namaste dear Rafal Ji, Okay... let me finally introduce myself: My name is Maja and I have no idea yet what is the art design for front page of " Vedic remedies " by Sanjay Rath, but I am about to find it out till the end of this month when friend of mine is supposed to come back from India with my copy of this book. Nice to meet you too. 1. You see, that list of " NO " points are what I have learned so far about gemstones, so when you take it in consideration, the only conclusion I can make for now is that there is no suitable gemstone I can prescribe for any Kanya lagna (including myself, and (still only with taking that list in consideration) especially because of Sk in trika bhava). That is the reason why I wrote that I find that list very frustrating. Of course, another reason is that I assumed that there must be deeper story behind those points I wrote, except I haven't got that far yet (I don't have a plan to stop myself here with gemstones, don't worry). I'll trust you on that advice about diamond exactly because I understand that this list is not " the edge of the world " about criteria for choosing. But it is nice to find out at the same time that I can advice diamond to a friend of mine who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is in 9th bhava. If I am o.k. she is going to bloom with diamond. As I understand in her case there is no single reason to avoid it. 2. Well I am at the kinder garden level with gemstones. I just play with that a little. (But mantras are still… There I am a new born baby) Right now I am doing everything possible from my position to get closer to elementary school. (Don't take personally following lines, please. It is nothing pointed to you.) " Badhakesh many times is blessing to the native " . From the perspective of kinder garden I can give no knowledgably comment on this sentence. By the time I reach that deeper perspective I just hope that I shall not meet with explanation that sounds like " If you focus real hard you can prove hypothesis that elephant can hang over from a cliff with his tail holding to a daisy " , because I ran off from Western Astrology exactly because of such things. I would take it real hard to disappoint in Jyotish. That explanation better be very good and reasonable. Regards, Maja Hari Om Tat Sat sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > 1. Why is it frustrating for Kanya with Shukra in trika? Do you mean it > takes away the viveka to choose a gem as general or its problematic to > choose a gem for you? For your chart its diamond..easy. > > 2. In choosing a gem the planet (gem-karaka) should bless one with the > material / emotional goods. So dusthana, maraka, badhakesh, neelam can > be good depending on a chart - as they can provide goods to the native. > Sri Jagannath Center tries to teach class of astrologers which will rise > above those generalizations like 'dusthana is bad, maraka is bad, > badhakesh is bad' etc..thats kindergarden astrology. Badhakesh many > times is blessing to the native. > > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal > > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste dear Rafal ji, > > > > Ohh... so that was the catch! Thank you very much. > > > > It is just that I find following list very frustrating sometimes: > > > > Lord of 2nd & 7th, maraka-NO! > > Lord of 6, 8 & 12th, dustahn-NO! > > Lord of 3rd & 11th, trika-NO! > > Graha in dustahn-NO! > > Graha in trika-NO! > > Badhakesh-NO! > > Blue sapphire-NO! > > Green emerald-NO! > > > > (I also find it very frustrating because I am Kanya lagna with Sukra > > in trika bhava > > > > Regards, > > Maja > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > wrote: > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > Dear Maja & SS , Namaskar > > > > > > Usually we perscribe gems for kona lords to increase the rise, > > fortune > > > and wealth of native. > > > > > > Here Mangal is unafflicted and wellplaced so it will give effect > > of > > > Lagnesh and not sixth lord. > > > > > > Instead Shani will give effect of sixth lord giving problem to > > pitta and > > > tridoshic problems of genital area/anus (right side) (82-91). > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > www: http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > I don't have to write too much, question is same (down there in > > > > previous email from SS). > > > > > > > > Help us? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Maja > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40> > > <sohamsa% > > 40>, > > > > " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > Please can you advise why Coral will be appropriate even though > > > > Mars > > > > > is 6th lord? > > > > > Is it because it lords 9th from AL? > > > > > > > > > > Many thanx > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > 40>, > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the gem will > > activate > > > > it. > > > > > > Parivartana means that Diamond will activate Bu in 3 from AL > > > > which > > > > > > afflicts career life and skills of native. > > > > > > 2. Neck influences thinking. > > > > > > 3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet forward in > > > > > kalachakra > > > > > > scheme. > > > > > > 4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak. Badhakesh in > > > > lagna > > > > > is > > > > > > corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga > > > > > > 5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in twelfth. I follow > > > > Sanjayji > > > > > who > > > > > > also looks at lord when bhava is empty. > > > > > > 6. We can do everything if we know what we are doing. > > Planets in > > > > > lagna, > > > > > > fifth and tenth eclipses the others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> > > <http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rajarshi nandy pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was trying to understand your advise to Mr Sunil. It > > would > > > > be > > > > > great > > > > > > > if you could kindly clarify some points which I could not > > > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th lord, due to > > yuti > > > > > causing > > > > > > > exchange of effects? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck? What is its > > > > > significance? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will give effects > > of > > > > > shani. > > > > > > > Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? But i > > thought > > > > it > > > > > was > > > > > > > for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please tell me the > > exact > > > > > rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa badhaka. In > > that > > > > > case > > > > > > > shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to nagraj temple? > > Why > > > > is > > > > > the > > > > > > > Krishna idol donation neeeded? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajarshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /* > > > > > > > * " This above all: to thine own self be true! " - Hamlet* > > > > > > > */ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@>/* wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40> > > > > > > > Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > >> Dear Sunil, Namaskar > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> 1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord which is > > > > > > >> negative, but will also improve the finances and > > > > Chandra..so > > > > > its > > > > > > >> not perfect. Coral has less side-effects here. > > > > > > >> 2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for karma. > > > > > > >> 3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified by AK. > > > > Irs > > > > > also > > > > > > >> in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL. > > > > > > >> 4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial setbacks > > > > > (rasi) > > > > > > >> and then improvement (navamsa). > > > > > > >> 5. Just please try to perform those remedies which I have > > > > > given > > > > > > >> in the last mail. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the Sarpa > > > > should > > > > > be > > > > > > >> broken and the ninth lord should be lifted - Bhuvanesvari. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be > > > > remedied > > > > > by > > > > > > >> gift of idol/picture related to Sri Krishna. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Regards, > > > > > > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > >> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> Dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > >>> Namaskar > > > > > > >>> Thank you very much for your guidance. I like to hear > > > > your > > > > > > >>> comments, not just about me, but even regarding other > > > > > > >>> person/subject > > > > > > >>> Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still > > > > wearing > > > > > a > > > > > > >>> Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring finger. > > > > Should > > > > > that > > > > > > >>> be removed too? Not that I see any visible difference > > > > after > > > > > > >>> wearing it. > > > > > > >>> I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean Coral in > > > > my > > > > > case) > > > > > > >>> in gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions for > > > > this. > > > > > > >>> Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow > > > > Sapphire to > > > > > > >>> boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due to > > > > > Rahu's 9th > > > > > > >>> aspect. Is it appropriate? > > > > > > >>> As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good period > > > > > since > > > > > > >>> the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic gains > > > > > now and > > > > > > >>> then but nothing substantial. I would love to change the > > > > > > >>> situation, if I can, and solicit your advice in this > > > > > regard. If > > > > > > >>> you will be kind enough to please give me a clear idea > > > > what > > > > > I > > > > > > >>> can do. > > > > > > >>> Regards > > > > > > >>> Sunil > > > > > > >>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ > > > > wp.pl>/* > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > > > > > > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > Gemstones > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > >>> Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with > > > > rahu in > > > > > > >>> Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna idol/picture to > > > > > > >>> temple/spiritual person. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> You can wear only Coral. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in > > > > > third/ninth > > > > > > >>> - only in dasa of this malefic - instead use right > > > > hand > > > > > with > > > > > > >>> fortune-gem. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana and > > > > > > >>> worship Hanumanji sincerly! > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome > > > > as > > > > > its > > > > > > >>> the strength period (neechavastha) , after initial > > > > > struggle > > > > > > >>> there should be improvement due to exaltation in d9. > > > > > This > > > > > > >>> period works for spirituality a lot due to karakaamsa > > > > > > >>> position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra and > > > > being > > > > > GK > > > > > > >>> it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be > > > > > > >>> strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact > > > > that > > > > > Mo > > > > > > >>> in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H). > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Regards, > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > >>> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa.com/ > > <http://www.rohinaa.com/> > > > > <http://www.rohinaa.com/ <http://www.rohinaa.com/>>> / > > > > > email: > > > > > > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > > > >>>> Dear Maja, > > > > > > >>>> I fully appreciate your openness about various > > > > > observations > > > > > > >>>> made so far. At least you are better than me when > > > > you > > > > > say > > > > > > >>>> few charts are clear to you. To me all of them look > > > > > confusing. > > > > > > >>>> My birth data is as follows: > > > > > > >>>> DOB: 21st September 1955 > > > > > > >>>> TOB: 10:32 A.M. > > > > > > >>>> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27) > > > > > > >>>> Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am > > > > not > > > > > in a > > > > > > >>>> hurry. > > > > > > >>>> Regards > > > > > > >>>> Sunil > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, > > > > majastrbacastro /<majastrbacastro@ > > > > > > >>>> > <majastrbacastro@>/* wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> <majastrbacastro@> > > > > > > >>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > Gemstones > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > >>>> Dear Sunil, > > > > > > >>>> Namaste > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> My decision > > > > > > >>>> to wear that gift I received has nothing to do > > > > > with > > > > > > >>>> procedure of determining proper gemstone It > > > > is > > > > > just that I wear > > > > > > >>>> jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find > > > > it > > > > > very entertaining > > > > > > >>>> to learn about gemstones (not just for past two > > > > > days), for past > > > > > > >>>> month or two I had a few dialogues regarding > > > > same > > > > > kind of ring that > > > > > > >>>> you are wearing right now, and it turned out it > > > > is > > > > > not suitable for > > > > > > >>>> me when I was about to buy one. What happened > > > > > yesterday I consider > > > > > > >>>> it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for > > > > > few months. (If I > > > > > > >>>> suddenly disappear from list it will mean that > > > > it > > > > > was a wrong > > > > > > >>>> decision > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would > > > > > like to look at > > > > > > >>>> whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to > > > > > take it just as an > > > > > > >>>> opinion. As I have said on the beginning of > > > > this > > > > > thread I am not > > > > > > >>>> quite skilled with this issue, so have this > > > > > > >>>> in mind (Though it was > > > > > > >>>> not so difficult for me to say that ruby is > > > > proper > > > > > > >>>> gemstone for > > > > > > >>>> Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so > > > > > confusing as they > > > > > > >>>> often could be in various charts. When > > > > positions > > > > > in chart are > > > > > > >>>> complicated I choose to say " I don't know " > > > > rather > > > > > than to ruin > > > > > > >>>> someone's life.) > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > > > >>>> Maja > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> , Sunil > > > > > Sharma > > > > > > >>>> <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > Dear Maja, > > > > > > >>>> > I have been reading each and every message on > > > > > this thread and, at > > > > > > >>>> the outset, was surprised to read about > > > > Neeraj's > > > > > observations. > > > > > > >>>> However, things became quite clear later on > > > > > especially with your > > > > > > >>>> comments on antardasha. > > > > > > >>>> > Your very last sentence in your last mail > > > > (even > > > > > though chandra is > > > > > > >>>> not lording my trines) caught my attention. > > > > > Debilitated chandra (in > > > > > > >>>> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my > > > > > chart with exalted > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka > > > > > > >>>> Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu > > > > conjoining > > > > > moon in > > > > > > >>>> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th > > > > > > >>>> house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY > > > > > > >>>> or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, > > > > the > > > > > net result is > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already > > > > > afflicted due to > > > > > > >>>> debilitation) is afflicted. All this is > > > > something > > > > > I have been told > > > > > > >>>> by various astrologers (not necessarily all at > > > > the > > > > > same time). > > > > > > >>>> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and > > > > Diamond > > > > > to me. I am still > > > > > > >>>> wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand > > > > > ring finger > > > > > > >>>> (presently going through Venus dasha), and > > > > Coral > > > > > in gold pendant in > > > > > > >>>> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier > > > > > but changed it to a > > > > > > >>>> pendant and wore it in the neck in a black > > > > string. > > > > > I have since > > > > > > >>>> removed it but I must say that whenever I wear > > > > > Pearl it quietens my > > > > > > >>>> temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any > > > > > improvement in my > > > > > > >>>> career or financial aspects. > > > > > > >>>> > Now, my real question to you is > > > > > > >>>> this. Moon being afflicted and > > > > > > >>>> left hand to be used (for the effect to be > > > > > reduced), I should > > > > > > >>>> have > > > > > > >>>> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You > > > > > may take few days to > > > > > > >>>> reply! I am not in a hurry. > > > > > > >>>> > Regards > > > > > > >>>> > Sunil > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro > > > > > <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> > > > > > > >>>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > Gemstones (Swami) > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > Namaste dear Swami, > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra > > > > > being unfavorable > > > > > > >>>> Graha > > > > > > >>>> > in this chart, those mentioned were the only > > > > one > > > > > I could find (and > > > > > > >>>> > that was after quite some time spent in > > > > serious > > > > > thinking). It is > > > > > > >>>> my > > > > > > >>>> > mistake to " equalize " effects of Rudra and > > > > > Maheshvara in Shula > > > > > > >>>> dasa > > > > > > >>>> > somewhere in my > > > > > > >>>> memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I > > > > did > > > > > > >>>> say > > > > > > >>>> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any > > > > > > >>>> significance to wear gemstone > > > > > > >>>> > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > So far I was informed about just a few rules > > > > > regarding determining > > > > > > >>>> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I > > > > thought > > > > > that Ketu/Rahu > > > > > > >>>> could > > > > > > >>>> > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th > > > > > from AK or if Rahu > > > > > > >>>> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful > > > > > information about this > > > > > > >>>> > issue. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... > > > > I > > > > > received one > > > > > > >>>> > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: > > > > > silver ring with a > > > > > > >>>> pearl > > > > > > >>>> > and matching silver pectoral also decorated > > > > with > > > > > pearls. What is > > > > > > >>>> > this today...? I was never this much involved > > > > in > > > > > any thread so > > > > > > >>>> far. > > > > > > >>>> > WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear it, even > > > > > though Chandra is not > > > > > > >>>> > lording my trines. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > > > >>>> > Maja > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > --- In > > > > > > >>>> , " swami " > > > > <swami@> > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > >>>> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om, > > > > > > >>>> > > Dear Maja, > > > > > > >>>> > > Your insights are great, incidently I was > > > > > struck at your > > > > > > >>>> mention > > > > > > >>>> > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I > > > > > don't think > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > > > significance) . > > > > > > >>>> > > I could not understand How sukra is > > > > > maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu > > > > > > >>>> as > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar planet . that also is appears > > > > incorrect. > > > > > > >>>> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu > > > > so > > > > > count to 8 th > > > > > > >>>> would > > > > > > >>>> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads > > > > to > > > > > Leo. > > > > > > >>>> > > The sign lord is SUN. > > > > > > >>>> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN > > > > > becomes Brahma Planet. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th > > > > and > > > > > 12 th from Sun > > > > > > >>>> the > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar. > > > > > > >>>> > > Eight > > > > > > >>>> lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup. > > > > > > >>>> > > We apply parashar strength to determne > > > > > strenth.Ketu and jup are > > > > > > >>>> > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so > > > > as > > > > > per naisargic bal > > > > > > >>>> Jup > > > > > > >>>> > is Maheswar. > > > > > > >>>> > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 > > > > sutra. > > > > > > >>>> > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is > > > > > discussed. > > > > > > >>>> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih > > > > > knowledge .So Gem stone of > > > > > > >>>> > planet that is maheswar if put in left should > > > > > diminish > > > > > > >>>> knowledge.If > > > > > > >>>> > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of > > > > > vedic shahstra. > > > > > > >>>> > > Perhaps native has tried many gems. > > > > > > >>>> > > By the way, influence of wearing planet > > > > > related to maheshwar is > > > > > > >>>> > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i > > > > could > > > > > access, so this > > > > > > >>>> > last suggestion may be taken just a logical > > > > > > >>>> aplication. > > > > > > >>>> > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment. > > > > > > >>>> > > with regards. > > > > > > >>>> > > OM TATSAT > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > --- > > > > > -- --------- > > > > > > >>>> > > Swami_RCS > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > > > --- > > > > > ----- -------- > > > > > > >>>> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious > > > > effulgence > > > > > of that Divine > > > > > > >>>> Being > > > > > > >>>> > who has created the three worlds.May He > > > > Direct > > > > > our understanding. " > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > > > --- > > > > > ----- --------- -------- > > > > > > >>>> -- > > > > > > >>>> > - > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > - > > > > > > >>>> > > majastrbacastro > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM > > > > > > >>>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > Gemstones > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?), > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing > > > > > zircon on his left > > > > > > >>>> hand, > > > > > > >>>> > so > > > > > > >>>> > > that means he was weakening his lord of > > > > > > >>>> 10th bhava in 9th... > > > > > > >>>> And > > > > > > >>>> > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd > > > > > bhava (which is > > > > > > >>>> > considered > > > > > > >>>> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also > > > > > maheshvara.. . but I don't > > > > > > >>>> > think > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > > > significance) . > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I really dislike complicating simple > > > > things, > > > > > but this time I > > > > > > >>>> can > > > > > > >>>> > not > > > > > > >>>> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in > > > > > Dhanu, yet Mithuna is > > > > > > >>>> > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra > > > > and > > > > > Guru in it. That > > > > > > >>>> > means > > > > > > >>>> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his > > > > > Arudha Lagna. 12th > > > > > > >>>> lord > > > > > > >>>> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from > > > > Arudha > > > > > Lagna signifies > > > > > > >>>> > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. > > > > > These are just > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> thoughts... > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Regards, > > > > > > >>>> > > Maja > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > --- In > > > > > > >>>> , RKM > > > > > <rajeevmundra@> > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Dear Neeraj > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in > > > > 9th > > > > > house which is a > > > > > > >>>> > Royal > > > > > > >>>> > > Yoga. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have > > > > > helped you grow in your > > > > > > >>>> > > career. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very > > > > > suitable. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter > > > > and > > > > > Moon. -ve. > > > > > > >>>> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve > > > > > (but ok if malefic > > > > > > >>>> > > debiliated in 12th > > > > > > >>>> > > > house) > > > > > > >>>> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve. > > > > > > >>>> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and > > > > just > > > > > out > > > > > > >>>> of 8th house. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and > > > > relatively > > > > > unafflicted is > > > > > > >>>> > working > > > > > > >>>> > > the > > > > > > >>>> best. > > > > > > >>>> > > > Suns stone would probably give you > > > > better > > > > > health and overall > > > > > > >>>> > luck. > > > > > > >>>> > > > But venus will cause growth in career. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > -- > > > > > > >>>> > > > Ã'Ã...ò Ã'à " Ã0/00Ã'à " Ã?Ã'à " f > > > > > Ã'à " ´Ã'à " Æ'Ã'à " ²Ã'à " ¬Ã'à " Ã? > > > > > > >>>> > > > RKM > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda > > > > > krsna > > > > > > >>>> <yasodakrsna@> > > > > > > >>>> > > wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj, > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of > > > > SJC > > > > > have made error. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Particularly in my case was > > > > recommended > > > > > Coral by one, > > > > > > >>>> Ruby > > > > > > >>>> > by > > > > > > >>>> > > two. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by > > > > > > >>>> recommended quality > > > > > > >>>> > gemologist. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not > > > > by > > > > > internet > > > > > > >>>> questions > > > > > > >>>> > but > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > by paid > > > > > > >>>> > > > > services. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The good thing was the price of gold > > > > > soared and made good > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > money > > > > > > >>>> > > by selling > > > > > > >>>> > > > > it. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath > > > > recommendation > > > > > of yellow > > > > > > >>>> sapphire > > > > > > >>>> > as > > > > > > >>>> > > it works. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their > > > > > Devata for the > > > > > > >>>> prediction > > > > > > >>>> > to > > > > > > >>>> > > be true. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Yasoda. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than > > > > > gemstone if sincere > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ > > > > 2000@> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > vedic astrology; > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM > > > > > > >>>> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > >>>> Choosing Gemstones > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > It's been more than four years that I > > > > > studied > > > > > > >>>> different > > > > > > >>>> > books on > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstones > > > > > > >>>> > > > > and got advise from different good > > > > > astrologers about the > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstone. But none > > > > > > >>>> > > > > of them gave very good result. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > As of now, some of the following > > > > > theories are present for > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > choosing > > > > > > >>>> > > > > gemstone. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord > > > > > > >>>> (recommended by many > > > > > > >>>> astrologers) > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, > > > > 5, > > > > > and 9) - Anukool > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool) > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > However, I recently found that one > > > > > gemstone worked very > > > > > > >>>> well > > > > > > >>>> > for > > > > > > >>>> > > me. After > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wearing that I got a very good > > > > results > > > > > in my career and > > > > > > >>>> also > > > > > > >>>> > my > > > > > > >>>> > > income > > > > > > >>>> > > > > increased by more than 100% in > > > > approx. 4 > > > > > months. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not > > > > recommended > > > > > to me by any > > > > > > >>>> > astrologer > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > (though I > > > > > > >>>> > > > > consulted several ones in person) and > > > > in > > > > > no such book it > > > > > > >>>> was > > > > > > >>>> > > mentioned that > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > I should choose this gemstone. I read > > > > > approximately 8-10 > > > > > > >>>> > books > > > > > > >>>> > > on gem > > > > > > >>>> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I > > > > > was not advised to > > > > > > >>>> > wear > > > > > > >>>> > > this gemstone. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, > > > > > Yellow Sapphire and > > > > > > >>>> Red > > > > > > >>>> > Coral > > > > > > >>>> > > by > > > > > > >>>> > > > > different astrologers. One even > > > > advised > > > > > blue sapphire, > > > > > > >>>> that > > > > > > >>>> > made > > > > > > >>>> > > matters > > > > > > >>>> > > > > worse. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details > > > > and > > > > > then I will tell > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > gem > > > > > > >>>> > > stone that > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > worked for me. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978 > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA) > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon > > > > > (Substitute of > > > > > > >>>> Diamond). > > > > > > >>>> > I > > > > > > >>>> > > worn this in > > > > > > >>>> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and > > > > things > > > > > started working > > > > > > >>>> > positive > > > > > > >>>> > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing > > > > > exceptional in > > > > > > >>>> my > > > > > > >>>> > > personal / work > > > > > > >>>> > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be > > > > > noted. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. It's not lord of > > > > > > >>>> trines. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not > > > > running. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Still, it gave me good results. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way > > > > > that may be tried > > > > > > >>>> if > > > > > > >>>> > some > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants > > > > > > >>>> > > > > to try. Please share your results, so > > > > > that we can know > > > > > > >>>> more > > > > > > >>>> > > about this. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in > > > > 1,5,9 > > > > > house. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If > > > > > any of the planets > > > > > > >>>> > that > > > > > > >>>> > > were in 1,5,9 > > > > > > >>>> > > > > house moves to > > > > > > >>>> some other house, ignore that planet. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines > > > > > (1,5,9) in both natal > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > chart > > > > > > >>>> > > and > > > > > > >>>> bhava > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore > > > > rahu, > > > > > ketu) > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found > > > > till > > > > > step 3 is > > > > > > >>>> benefic > > > > > > >>>> > for > > > > > > >>>> > > your > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose > > > > the > > > > > main gemstone of > > > > > > >>>> > that > > > > > > >>>> > > planet and > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wear it in the right hand. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet > > > > that > > > > > was found in > > > > > > >>>> step > > > > > > >>>> 3 > > > > > > >>>> > is > > > > > > >>>> > > malefic, > > > > > > >>>> > > > > then choose the substitute gem for > > > > that > > > > > planet and wear > > > > > > >>>> it > > > > > > >>>> > in > > > > > > >>>> > > the left hand. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > The above was just a thought that came to my > > > > > mind and if > > > > > > >>>> > some > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants to > > > > > > >>>> > > > > try it, they may do so for > > > > experiment. > > > > > Kindly share with > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > other > > > > > > >>>> > > members, if > > > > > > >>>> > > > > this method works for you. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Regards, > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > > > >>>> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > > > >>>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > > > > Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > > > > >>>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > > > > the Great who said > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> that the human > > > > > > >>>> > stomach should not become a graveyard for > > > > > animals. > > > > > > >>>> > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > > > > one free chart > > > > > > >>>> reading > > > > > > >>>> > today > > > > > > >>>> Links > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > > > >>>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > > > >>>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > > > Mantra 'Hare > > > > > Rama Krishna' > > > > > > >>>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > > > the > > > > > Great who said that the human > > > > > > >>>> stomach should not become a graveyard for > > > > animals. > > > > > > >>>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > > > one > > > > > free chart reading > > > > > > >>>> today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Maja , Namaskar Maja: But it is nice to find out at the same time that I can advice diamond to a friend of mine who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is in 9th bhava. If I am o.k. she is going to bloom with diamond. As I understand in her case there is no single reason to avoid it. Rafal: Please send me the birthdetails. Reg. trika its not so bad, especially when in 11 from AL. Maja: "Badhakesh many times is blessing to the native". From the perspective of kinder garden I can give no knowledgably comment on this sentence. Rafal: Its quite simple. Badhakesh when exalted, or benefic, or with benefics removes the obstacle to the pursuits of native (lagna). Its inspiring that you study hard. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Maja Strbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Namaste dear Rafal Ji, Okay... let me finally introduce myself: My name is Maja and I have no idea yet what is the art design for front page of "Vedic remedies" by Sanjay Rath, but I am about to find it out till the end of this month when friend of mine is supposed to come back from India with my copy of this book. Nice to meet you too. 1. You see, that list of "NO" points are what I have learned so far about gemstones, so when you take it in consideration, the only conclusion I can make for now is that there is no suitable gemstone I can prescribe for any Kanya lagna (including myself, and (still only with taking that list in consideration) especially because of Sk in trika bhava). That is the reason why I wrote that I find that list very frustrating. Of course, another reason is that I assumed that there must be deeper story behind those points I wrote, except I haven't got that far yet (I don't have a plan to stop myself here with gemstones, don't worry). I'll trust you on that advice about diamond exactly because I understand that this list is not "the edge of the world" about criteria for choosing. But it is nice to find out at the same time that I can advice diamond to a friend of mine who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is in 9th bhava. If I am o.k. she is going to bloom with diamond. As I understand in her case there is no single reason to avoid it. 2. Well I am at the kinder garden level with gemstones. I just play with that a little. (But mantras are still… There I am a new born baby) Right now I am doing everything possible from my position to get closer to elementary school. (Don't take personally following lines, please. It is nothing pointed to you.) "Badhakesh many times is blessing to the native". From the perspective of kinder garden I can give no knowledgably comment on this sentence. By the time I reach that deeper perspective I just hope that I shall not meet with explanation that sounds like "If you focus real hard you can prove hypothesis that elephant can hang over from a cliff with his tail holding to a daisy", because I ran off from Western Astrology exactly because of such things. I would take it real hard to disappoint in Jyotish. That explanation better be very good and reasonable. Regards, Maja Hari Om Tat Sat sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > 1. Why is it frustrating for Kanya with Shukra in trika? Do you mean it > takes away the viveka to choose a gem as general or its problematic to > choose a gem for you? For your chart its diamond..easy. > > 2. In choosing a gem the planet (gem-karaka) should bless one with the > material / emotional goods. So dusthana, maraka, badhakesh, neelam can > be good depending on a chart - as they can provide goods to the native. > Sri Jagannath Center tries to teach class of astrologers which will rise > above those generalizations like 'dusthana is bad, maraka is bad, > badhakesh is bad' etc..thats kindergarden astrology. Badhakesh many > times is blessing to the native. > > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal > > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste dear Rafal ji, > > > > Ohh... so that was the catch! Thank you very much. > > > > It is just that I find following list very frustrating sometimes: > > > > Lord of 2nd & 7th, maraka-NO! > > Lord of 6, 8 & 12th, dustahn-NO! > > Lord of 3rd & 11th, trika-NO! > > Graha in dustahn-NO! > > Graha in trika-NO! > > Badhakesh-NO! > > Blue sapphire-NO! > > Green emerald-NO! > > > > (I also find it very frustrating because I am Kanya lagna with Sukra > > in trika bhava > > > > Regards, > > Maja > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > wrote: > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > Dear Maja & SS , Namaskar > > > > > > Usually we perscribe gems for kona lords to increase the rise, > > fortune > > > and wealth of native. > > > > > > Here Mangal is unafflicted and wellplaced so it will give effect > > of > > > Lagnesh and not sixth lord. > > > > > > Instead Shani will give effect of sixth lord giving problem to > > pitta and > > > tridoshic problems of genital area/anus (right side) (82-91). > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > www: http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > I don't have to write too much, question is same (down there in > > > > previous email from SS). > > > > > > > > Help us? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Maja > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40> > > <sohamsa% > > 40>, > > > > "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > Please can you advise why Coral will be appropriate even though > > > > Mars > > > > > is 6th lord? > > > > > Is it because it lords 9th from AL? > > > > > > > > > > Many thanx > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > 40>, > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the gem will > > activate > > > > it. > > > > > > Parivartana means that Diamond will activate Bu in 3 from AL > > > > which > > > > > > afflicts career life and skills of native. > > > > > > 2. Neck influences thinking. > > > > > > 3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet forward in > > > > > kalachakra > > > > > > scheme. > > > > > > 4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak. Badhakesh in > > > > lagna > > > > > is > > > > > > corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga > > > > > > 5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in twelfth. I follow > > > > Sanjayji > > > > > who > > > > > > also looks at lord when bhava is empty. > > > > > > 6. We can do everything if we know what we are doing. > > Planets in > > > > > lagna, > > > > > > fifth and tenth eclipses the others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> > > <http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rajarshi nandy pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was trying to understand your advise to Mr Sunil. It > > would > > > > be > > > > > great > > > > > > > if you could kindly clarify some points which I could not > > > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th lord, due to > > yuti > > > > > causing > > > > > > > exchange of effects? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck? What is its > > > > > significance? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will give effects > > of > > > > > shani. > > > > > > > Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? But i > > thought > > > > it > > > > > was > > > > > > > for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please tell me the > > exact > > > > > rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa badhaka. In > > that > > > > > case > > > > > > > shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to nagraj temple? > > Why > > > > is > > > > > the > > > > > > > Krishna idol donation neeeded? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajarshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /* > > > > > > > *"This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet* > > > > > > > */ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@>/* wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40> > > > > > > > Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > >> Dear Sunil, Namaskar > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> 1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord which is > > > > > > >> negative, but will also improve the finances and > > > > Chandra..so > > > > > its > > > > > > >> not perfect. Coral has less side-effects here. > > > > > > >> 2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for karma. > > > > > > >> 3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified by AK. > > > > Irs > > > > > also > > > > > > >> in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL. > > > > > > >> 4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial setbacks > > > > > (rasi) > > > > > > >> and then improvement (navamsa). > > > > > > >> 5. Just please try to perform those remedies which I have > > > > > given > > > > > > >> in the last mail. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the Sarpa > > > > should > > > > > be > > > > > > >> broken and the ninth lord should be lifted - Bhuvanesvari. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be > > > > remedied > > > > > by > > > > > > >> gift of idol/picture related to Sri Krishna. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Regards, > > > > > > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > >> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> Dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > >>> Namaskar > > > > > > >>> Thank you very much for your guidance. I like to hear > > > > your > > > > > > >>> comments, not just about me, but even regarding other > > > > > > >>> person/subject > > > > > > >>> Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still > > > > wearing > > > > > a > > > > > > >>> Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring finger. > > > > Should > > > > > that > > > > > > >>> be removed too? Not that I see any visible difference > > > > after > > > > > > >>> wearing it. > > > > > > >>> I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean Coral in > > > > my > > > > > case) > > > > > > >>> in gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions for > > > > this. > > > > > > >>> Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow > > > > Sapphire to > > > > > > >>> boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due to > > > > > Rahu's 9th > > > > > > >>> aspect. Is it appropriate? > > > > > > >>> As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good period > > > > > since > > > > > > >>> the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic gains > > > > > now and > > > > > > >>> then but nothing substantial. I would love to change the > > > > > > >>> situation, if I can, and solicit your advice in this > > > > > regard. If > > > > > > >>> you will be kind enough to please give me a clear idea > > > > what > > > > > I > > > > > > >>> can do. > > > > > > >>> Regards > > > > > > >>> Sunil > > > > > > >>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ > > > > wp.pl>/* > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > > > > > > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > Gemstones > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > >>> @ . com > > > > > > >>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > >>> Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with > > > > rahu in > > > > > > >>> Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna idol/picture to > > > > > > >>> temple/spiritual person. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> You can wear only Coral. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in > > > > > third/ninth > > > > > > >>> - only in dasa of this malefic - instead use right > > > > hand > > > > > with > > > > > > >>> fortune-gem. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana and > > > > > > >>> worship Hanumanji sincerly! > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome > > > > as > > > > > its > > > > > > >>> the strength period (neechavastha) , after initial > > > > > struggle > > > > > > >>> there should be improvement due to exaltation in d9. > > > > > This > > > > > > >>> period works for spirituality a lot due to karakaamsa > > > > > > >>> position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra and > > > > being > > > > > GK > > > > > > >>> it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be > > > > > > >>> strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact > > > > that > > > > > Mo > > > > > > >>> in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H). > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Regards, > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > >>> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa.com/ > > <http://www.rohinaa.com/> > > > > <http://www.rohinaa.com/ <http://www.rohinaa.com/>>> / > > > > > email: > > > > > > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > > > >>>> Dear Maja, > > > > > > >>>> I fully appreciate your openness about various > > > > > observations > > > > > > >>>> made so far. At least you are better than me when > > > > you > > > > > say > > > > > > >>>> few charts are clear to you. To me all of them look > > > > > confusing. > > > > > > >>>> My birth data is as follows: > > > > > > >>>> DOB: 21st September 1955 > > > > > > >>>> TOB: 10:32 A.M. > > > > > > >>>> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27) > > > > > > >>>> Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am > > > > not > > > > > in a > > > > > > >>>> hurry. > > > > > > >>>> Regards > > > > > > >>>> Sunil > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, > > > > majastrbacastro /<majastrbacastro@ > > > > > > >>>> > <majastrbacastro@>/* wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> <majastrbacastro@> > > > > > > >>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > Gemstones > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > >>>> @ . com > > > > > > >>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > >>>> Dear Sunil, > > > > > > >>>> Namaste > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> My decision > > > > > > >>>> to wear that gift I received has nothing to do > > > > > with > > > > > > >>>> procedure of determining proper gemstone It > > > > is > > > > > just that I wear > > > > > > >>>> jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find > > > > it > > > > > very entertaining > > > > > > >>>> to learn about gemstones (not just for past two > > > > > days), for past > > > > > > >>>> month or two I had a few dialogues regarding > > > > same > > > > > kind of ring that > > > > > > >>>> you are wearing right now, and it turned out it > > > > is > > > > > not suitable for > > > > > > >>>> me when I was about to buy one. What happened > > > > > yesterday I consider > > > > > > >>>> it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for > > > > > few months. (If I > > > > > > >>>> suddenly disappear from list it will mean that > > > > it > > > > > was a wrong > > > > > > >>>> decision > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would > > > > > like to look at > > > > > > >>>> whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to > > > > > take it just as an > > > > > > >>>> opinion. As I have said on the beginning of > > > > this > > > > > thread I am not > > > > > > >>>> quite skilled with this issue, so have this > > > > > > >>>> in mind (Though it was > > > > > > >>>> not so difficult for me to say that ruby is > > > > proper > > > > > > >>>> gemstone for > > > > > > >>>> Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so > > > > > confusing as they > > > > > > >>>> often could be in various charts. When > > > > positions > > > > > in chart are > > > > > > >>>> complicated I choose to say "I don't know" > > > > rather > > > > > than to ruin > > > > > > >>>> someone's life.) > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > > > >>>> Maja > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> @ . com, Sunil > > > > > Sharma > > > > > > >>>> <sunilsharma21@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > Dear Maja, > > > > > > >>>> > I have been reading each and every message on > > > > > this thread and, at > > > > > > >>>> the outset, was surprised to read about > > > > Neeraj's > > > > > observations. > > > > > > >>>> However, things became quite clear later on > > > > > especially with your > > > > > > >>>> comments on antardasha. > > > > > > >>>> > Your very last sentence in your last mail > > > > (even > > > > > though chandra is > > > > > > >>>> not lording my trines) caught my attention. > > > > > Debilitated chandra (in > > > > > > >>>> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my > > > > > chart with exalted > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka > > > > > > >>>> Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu > > > > conjoining > > > > > moon in > > > > > > >>>> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th > > > > > > >>>> house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY > > > > > > >>>> or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, > > > > the > > > > > net result is > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already > > > > > afflicted due to > > > > > > >>>> debilitation) is afflicted. All this is > > > > something > > > > > I have been told > > > > > > >>>> by various astrologers (not necessarily all at > > > > the > > > > > same time). > > > > > > >>>> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and > > > > Diamond > > > > > to me. I am still > > > > > > >>>> wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand > > > > > ring finger > > > > > > >>>> (presently going through Venus dasha), and > > > > Coral > > > > > in gold pendant in > > > > > > >>>> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier > > > > > but changed it to a > > > > > > >>>> pendant and wore it in the neck in a black > > > > string. > > > > > I have since > > > > > > >>>> removed it but I must say that whenever I wear > > > > > Pearl it quietens my > > > > > > >>>> temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any > > > > > improvement in my > > > > > > >>>> career or financial aspects. > > > > > > >>>> > Now, my real question to you is > > > > > > >>>> this. Moon being afflicted and > > > > > > >>>> left hand to be used (for the effect to be > > > > > reduced), I should > > > > > > >>>> have > > > > > > >>>> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You > > > > > may take few days to > > > > > > >>>> reply! I am not in a hurry. > > > > > > >>>> > Regards > > > > > > >>>> > Sunil > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro > > > > > <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> > > > > > > >>>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > Gemstones (Swami) > > > > > > >>>> > @ . com > > > > > > >>>> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > Namaste dear Swami, > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra > > > > > being unfavorable > > > > > > >>>> Graha > > > > > > >>>> > in this chart, those mentioned were the only > > > > one > > > > > I could find (and > > > > > > >>>> > that was after quite some time spent in > > > > serious > > > > > thinking). It is > > > > > > >>>> my > > > > > > >>>> > mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra and > > > > > Maheshvara in Shula > > > > > > >>>> dasa > > > > > > >>>> > somewhere in my > > > > > > >>>> memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I > > > > did > > > > > > >>>> say > > > > > > >>>> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any > > > > > > >>>> significance to wear gemstone > > > > > > >>>> > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > So far I was informed about just a few rules > > > > > regarding determining > > > > > > >>>> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I > > > > thought > > > > > that Ketu/Rahu > > > > > > >>>> could > > > > > > >>>> > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th > > > > > from AK or if Rahu > > > > > > >>>> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful > > > > > information about this > > > > > > >>>> > issue. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... > > > > I > > > > > received one > > > > > > >>>> > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: > > > > > silver ring with a > > > > > > >>>> pearl > > > > > > >>>> > and matching silver pectoral also decorated > > > > with > > > > > pearls. What is > > > > > > >>>> > this today...? I was never this much involved > > > > in > > > > > any thread so > > > > > > >>>> far. > > > > > > >>>> > WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear it, even > > > > > though Chandra is not > > > > > > >>>> > lording my trines. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > > > >>>> > Maja > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > --- In > > > > > > >>>> @ . com, "swami" > > > > <swami@> > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > >>>> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om, > > > > > > >>>> > > Dear Maja, > > > > > > >>>> > > Your insights are great, incidently I was > > > > > struck at your > > > > > > >>>> mention > > > > > > >>>> > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I > > > > > don't think > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > > > significance) . > > > > > > >>>> > > I could not understand How sukra is > > > > > maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu > > > > > > >>>> as > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar planet . that also is appears > > > > incorrect. > > > > > > >>>> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu > > > > so > > > > > count to 8 th > > > > > > >>>> would > > > > > > >>>> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads > > > > to > > > > > Leo. > > > > > > >>>> > > The sign lord is SUN. > > > > > > >>>> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN > > > > > becomes Brahma Planet. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th > > > > and > > > > > 12 th from Sun > > > > > > >>>> the > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar. > > > > > > >>>> > > Eight > > > > > > >>>> lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup. > > > > > > >>>> > > We apply parashar strength to determne > > > > > strenth.Ketu and jup are > > > > > > >>>> > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so > > > > as > > > > > per naisargic bal > > > > > > >>>> Jup > > > > > > >>>> > is Maheswar. > > > > > > >>>> > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 > > > > sutra. > > > > > > >>>> > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is > > > > > discussed. > > > > > > >>>> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih > > > > > knowledge .So Gem stone of > > > > > > >>>> > planet that is maheswar if put in left should > > > > > diminish > > > > > > >>>> knowledge.If > > > > > > >>>> > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of > > > > > vedic shahstra. > > > > > > >>>> > > Perhaps native has tried many gems. > > > > > > >>>> > > By the way, influence of wearing planet > > > > > related to maheshwar is > > > > > > >>>> > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i > > > > could > > > > > access, so this > > > > > > >>>> > last suggestion may be taken just a logical > > > > > > >>>> aplication. > > > > > > >>>> > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment. > > > > > > >>>> > > with regards. > > > > > > >>>> > > OM TATSAT > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > --- > > > > > -- --------- > > > > > > >>>> > > Swami_RCS > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > > > --- > > > > > ----- -------- > > > > > > >>>> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious > > > > effulgence > > > > > of that Divine > > > > > > >>>> Being > > > > > > >>>> > who has created the three worlds.May He > > > > Direct > > > > > our understanding. " > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > > > --- > > > > > ----- --------- -------- > > > > > > >>>> -- > > > > > > >>>> > - > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > >>>> > > majastrbacastro > > > > > > >>>> > > To: > > > > > > >>>> > > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM > > > > > > >>>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > Gemstones > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?), > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing > > > > > zircon on his left > > > > > > >>>> hand, > > > > > > >>>> > so > > > > > > >>>> > > that means he was weakening his lord of > > > > > > >>>> 10th bhava in 9th... > > > > > > >>>> And > > > > > > >>>> > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd > > > > > bhava (which is > > > > > > >>>> > considered > > > > > > >>>> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also > > > > > maheshvara.. . but I don't > > > > > > >>>> > think > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > > > significance) . > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I really dislike complicating simple > > > > things, > > > > > but this time I > > > > > > >>>> can > > > > > > >>>> > not > > > > > > >>>> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in > > > > > Dhanu, yet Mithuna is > > > > > > >>>> > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra > > > > and > > > > > Guru in it. That > > > > > > >>>> > means > > > > > > >>>> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his > > > > > Arudha Lagna. 12th > > > > > > >>>> lord > > > > > > >>>> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from > > > > Arudha > > > > > Lagna signifies > > > > > > >>>> > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. > > > > > These are just > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> thoughts... > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Regards, > > > > > > >>>> > > Maja > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > --- In > > > > > > >>>> @ . com, RKM > > > > > <rajeevmundra@> > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Dear Neeraj > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in > > > > 9th > > > > > house which is a > > > > > > >>>> > Royal > > > > > > >>>> > > Yoga. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have > > > > > helped you grow in your > > > > > > >>>> > > career. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very > > > > > suitable. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter > > > > and > > > > > Moon. -ve. > > > > > > >>>> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve > > > > > (but ok if malefic > > > > > > >>>> > > debiliated in 12th > > > > > > >>>> > > > house) > > > > > > >>>> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve. > > > > > > >>>> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and > > > > just > > > > > out > > > > > > >>>> of 8th house. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and > > > > relatively > > > > > unafflicted is > > > > > > >>>> > working > > > > > > >>>> > > the > > > > > > >>>> best. > > > > > > >>>> > > > Suns stone would probably give you > > > > better > > > > > health and overall > > > > > > >>>> > luck. > > > > > > >>>> > > > But venus will cause growth in career. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > -- > > > > > > >>>> > > > Ã'Ã...ò Ã'Ã"Ã0/00Ã'Ã"Ã?Ã'Ã"f > > > > > Ã'Ã"´Ã'Ã"Æ'Ã'Ã"²Ã'Ã"¬Ã'Ã"Ã? > > > > > > >>>> > > > RKM > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda > > > > > krsna > > > > > > >>>> <yasodakrsna@> > > > > > > >>>> > > wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj, > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of > > > > SJC > > > > > have made error. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Particularly in my case was > > > > recommended > > > > > Coral by one, > > > > > > >>>> Ruby > > > > > > >>>> > by > > > > > > >>>> > > two. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by > > > > > > >>>> recommended quality > > > > > > >>>> > gemologist. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not > > > > by > > > > > internet > > > > > > >>>> questions > > > > > > >>>> > but > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > by paid > > > > > > >>>> > > > > services. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The good thing was the price of gold > > > > > soared and made good > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > money > > > > > > >>>> > > by selling > > > > > > >>>> > > > > it. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath > > > > recommendation > > > > > of yellow > > > > > > >>>> sapphire > > > > > > >>>> > as > > > > > > >>>> > > it works. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their > > > > > Devata for the > > > > > > >>>> prediction > > > > > > >>>> > to > > > > > > >>>> > > be true. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Yasoda. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than > > > > > gemstone if sincere > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ > > > > 2000@> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > To: vedic astrology; > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > @ . com > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM > > > > > > >>>> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > >>>> Choosing Gemstones > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > It's been more than four years that I > > > > > studied > > > > > > >>>> different > > > > > > >>>> > books on > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstones > > > > > > >>>> > > > > and got advise from different good > > > > > astrologers about the > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstone. But none > > > > > > >>>> > > > > of them gave very good result. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > As of now, some of the following > > > > > theories are present for > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > choosing > > > > > > >>>> > > > > gemstone. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord > > > > > > >>>> (recommended by many > > > > > > >>>> astrologers) > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, > > > > 5, > > > > > and 9) - Anukool > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool) > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > However, I recently found that one > > > > > gemstone worked very > > > > > > >>>> well > > > > > > >>>> > for > > > > > > >>>> > > me. After > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wearing that I got a very good > > > > results > > > > > in my career and > > > > > > >>>> also > > > > > > >>>> > my > > > > > > >>>> > > income > > > > > > >>>> > > > > increased by more than 100% in > > > > approx. 4 > > > > > months. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not > > > > recommended > > > > > to me by any > > > > > > >>>> > astrologer > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > (though I > > > > > > >>>> > > > > consulted several ones in person) and > > > > in > > > > > no such book it > > > > > > >>>> was > > > > > > >>>> > > mentioned that > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > I should choose this gemstone. I read > > > > > approximately 8-10 > > > > > > >>>> > books > > > > > > >>>> > > on gem > > > > > > >>>> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I > > > > > was not advised to > > > > > > >>>> > wear > > > > > > >>>> > > this gemstone. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, > > > > > Yellow Sapphire and > > > > > > >>>> Red > > > > > > >>>> > Coral > > > > > > >>>> > > by > > > > > > >>>> > > > > different astrologers. One even > > > > advised > > > > > blue sapphire, > > > > > > >>>> that > > > > > > >>>> > made > > > > > > >>>> > > matters > > > > > > >>>> > > > > worse. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details > > > > and > > > > > then I will tell > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > gem > > > > > > >>>> > > stone that > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > worked for me. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978 > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA) > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon > > > > > (Substitute of > > > > > > >>>> Diamond). > > > > > > >>>> > I > > > > > > >>>> > > worn this in > > > > > > >>>> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and > > > > things > > > > > started working > > > > > > >>>> > positive > > > > > > >>>> > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing > > > > > exceptional in > > > > > > >>>> my > > > > > > >>>> > > personal / work > > > > > > >>>> > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be > > > > > noted. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. It's not lord of > > > > > > >>>> trines. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not > > > > running. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Still, it gave me good results. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way > > > > > that may be tried > > > > > > >>>> if > > > > > > >>>> > some > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants > > > > > > >>>> > > > > to try. Please share your results, so > > > > > that we can know > > > > > > >>>> more > > > > > > >>>> > > about this. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in > > > > 1,5,9 > > > > > house. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If > > > > > any of the planets > > > > > > >>>> > that > > > > > > >>>> > > were in 1,5,9 > > > > > > >>>> > > > > house moves to > > > > > > >>>> some other house, ignore that planet. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines > > > > > (1,5,9) in both natal > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > chart > > > > > > >>>> > > and > > > > > > >>>> bhava > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore > > > > rahu, > > > > > ketu) > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found > > > > till > > > > > step 3 is > > > > > > >>>> benefic > > > > > > >>>> > for > > > > > > >>>> > > your > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose > > > > the > > > > > main gemstone of > > > > > > >>>> > that > > > > > > >>>> > > planet and > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wear it in the right hand. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet > > > > that > > > > > was found in > > > > > > >>>> step > > > > > > >>>> 3 > > > > > > >>>> > is > > > > > > >>>> > > malefic, > > > > > > >>>> > > > > then choose the substitute gem for > > > > that > > > > > planet and wear > > > > > > >>>> it > > > > > > >>>> > in > > > > > > >>>> > > the left hand. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > The above was just a thought that came to my > > > > > mind and if > > > > > > >>>> > some > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants to > > > > > > >>>> > > > > try it, they may do so for > > > > experiment. > > > > > Kindly share with > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > other > > > > > > >>>> > > members, if > > > > > > >>>> > > > > this method works for you. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Regards, > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > > > >>>> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > > > >>>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > > > > Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > > > > >>>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > > > > the Great who said > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> that the human > > > > > > >>>> > stomach should not become a graveyard for > > > > > animals. > > > > > > >>>> > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > > > > one free chart > > > > > > >>>> reading > > > > > > >>>> > today > > > > > > >>>> Links > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > > > >>>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > > > >>>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > > > Mantra 'Hare > > > > > Rama Krishna' > > > > > > >>>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > > > the > > > > > Great who said that the human > > > > > > >>>> stomach should not become a graveyard for > > > > animals. > > > > > > >>>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > > > one > > > > > free chart reading > > > > > > >>>> today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Dear Raphal and Maja, I am dying to learn why/when 'Badhakesh can be blessing for an individual, as Raphael wrote. btw. I read all your posts with interest, I appreciate that you both are honest and open-minded astrol's best wishes, Anna --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro wrote: Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Rafal Ji)sohamsa Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:02 PM Om Gurave NamahNamaste dear Rafal Ji,Okay... let me finally introduce myself: My name is Maja and I have no idea yet what is the art design for front page of "Vedic remedies" by Sanjay Rath, but I am about to find it out till the end of this month when friend of mine is supposed to come back from India with my copy of this book. Nice to meet you too. :)1. You see, that list of "NO" points are what I have learned so far about gemstones, so when you take it in consideration, the only conclusion I can make for now is that there is no suitable gemstone I can prescribe for any Kanya lagna (including myself, and (still only with taking that list in consideration) especially because of Sk in trika bhava). That is the reason why I wrote that I find that list very frustrating. Of course, another reason is that I assumed that there must be deeper story behind those points I wrote, except I haven't got that far yet (I don't have a plan to stop myself here with gemstones, don't worry). I'll trust you on that advice about diamond exactly because I understand that this list is not "the edge of the world" about criteria for choosing. But it is nice to find out at the same time that I can advice diamond to a friend of mine who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is in 9th bhava. If I am o.k. she is going to bloom with diamond. As I understand in her case there is no single reason to avoid it.2. Well I am at the kinder garden level with gemstones. I just play with that a little. (But mantras are still… There I am a new born baby) Right now I am doing everything possible from my position to get closer to elementary school. (Don't take personally following lines, please. It is nothing pointed to you.) "Badhakesh many times is blessing to the native". From the perspective of kinder garden I can give no knowledgably comment on this sentence. By the time I reach that deeper perspective I just hope that I shall not meet with explanation that sounds like "If you focus real hard you can prove hypothesis that elephant can hang over from a cliff with his tail holding to a daisy", because I ran off from Western Astrology exactly because of such things. I would take it real hard to disappoint in Jyotish. That explanation better be very good and reasonable. Regards,MajaHari Om Tat Satsohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> Dear Maja, Namaskar> > 1. Why is it frustrating for Kanya with Shukra in trika? Do you mean it > takes away the viveka to choose a gem as general or its problematic to > choose a gem for you? For your chart its diamond..easy.> > 2. In choosing a gem the planet (gem-karaka) should bless one with the > material / emotional goods. So dusthana, maraka, badhakesh, neelam can > be good depending on a chart - as they can provide goods to the native. > Sri Jagannath Center tries to teach class of astrologers which will rise > above those generalizations like 'dusthana is bad, maraka is bad, > badhakesh is bad' etc..thats kindergarden astrology. Badhakesh many > times is blessing to the native.> > > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal > > > Maja Strbac pisze:> >> > Om Gurave Namah> >> > Namaste dear Rafal ji,> >> > Ohh... so that was the catch! Thank you very much.> >> > It is just that I find following list very frustrating sometimes:> >> > Lord of 2nd & 7th, maraka-NO!> > Lord of 6, 8 & 12th, dustahn-NO!> > Lord of 3rd & 11th, trika-NO!> > Graha in dustahn-NO!> > Graha in trika-NO!> > Badhakesh-NO!> > Blue sapphire-NO!> > Green emerald-NO!> >> > (I also find it very frustrating because I am Kanya lagna with Sukra> > in trika bhava > >> > Regards,> > Maja> >> > Hari Om Tat Sat> >> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40. com>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >> > wrote:> > >> > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > Dear Maja & SS , Namaskar> > >> > > Usually we perscribe gems for kona lords to increase the rise,> > fortune> > > and wealth of native.> > >> > > Here Mangal is unafflicted and wellplaced so it will give effect> > of> > > Lagnesh and not sixth lord.> > >> > > Instead Shani will give effect of sixth lord giving problem to> > pitta and> > > tridoshic problems of genital area/anus (right side) (82-91).> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> / email: rafal@> > >> > >> > > Maja Strbac pisze:> > > >> > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Namaste dear Rafal,> > > >> > > > I don't have to write too much, question is same (down there in> > > > previous email from SS).> > > >> > > > Help us?> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Maja> > > >> > > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > >> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40. com> > > <sohamsa%> > 40. com>,> > > > "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > >> > > > > Please can you advise why Coral will be appropriate even though> > > > Mars> > > > > is 6th lord?> > > > > Is it because it lords 9th from AL?> > > > >> > > > > Many thanx> > > > > SS> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > <sohamsa% 40. com> <sohamsa%> > 40. com>,> > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > > > > Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the gem will> > activate> > > > it.> > > > > > Parivartana means that Diamond will activate Bu in 3 from AL> > > > which> > > > > > afflicts career life and skills of native.> > > > > > 2. Neck influences thinking.> > > > > > 3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet forward in> > > > > kalachakra> > > > > > scheme.> > > > > > 4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak. Badhakesh in> > > > lagna> > > > > is> > > > > > corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga> > > > > > 5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in twelfth. I follow> > > > Sanjayji> > > > > who> > > > > > also looks at lord when bhava is empty.> > > > > > 6. We can do everything if we know what we are doing.> > Planets in> > > > > lagna,> > > > > > fifth and tenth eclipses the others.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> / email: rafal@> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > rajarshi nandy pisze:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I was trying to understand your advise to Mr Sunil. It> > would> > > > be> > > > > great> > > > > > > if you could kindly clarify some points which I could not> > > > > understand.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th lord, due to> > yuti> > > > > causing> > > > > > > exchange of effects?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck? What is its> > > > > significance?> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will give effects> > of> > > > > shani.> > > > > > > Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? But i> > thought> > > > it> > > > > was> > > > > > > for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please tell me the> > exact> > > > > rule.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa badhaka. In> > that> > > > > case> > > > > > > shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to nagraj temple?> > Why> > > > is> > > > > the> > > > > > > Krishna idol donation neeeded?> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks in advance,.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > -Regards> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Rajarshi> > > > > > >> > > > > > > /*> > > > > > > *"This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet*> > > > > > > */> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ >/* wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >> > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones> > > > (Sunil)> > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > > > > > Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM> > > > > > >> > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > > > > > Dear Sunil , Namaskar> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > > > > >> Dear Sunil, Namaskar> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> 1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord which is> > > > > > >> negative, but will also improve the finances and> > > > Chandra..so> > > > > its> > > > > > >> not perfect. Coral has less side-effects here.> > > > > > >> 2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for karma.> > > > > > >> 3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified by AK.> > > > Irs> > > > > also> > > > > > >> in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL.> > > > > > >> 4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial setbacks> > > > > (rasi)> > > > > > >> and then improvement (navamsa).> > > > > > >> 5. Just please try to perform those remedies which I have> > > > > given> > > > > > >> in the last mail.> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the Sarpa> > > > should> > > > > be> > > > > > >> broken and the ninth lord should be lifted - Bhuvanesvari.> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be> > > > remedied> > > > > by> > > > > > >> gift of idol/picture related to Sri Krishna.> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> Regards,> > > > > > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > > > > >> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> Sunil Sharma pisze:> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Dear Rafal ji,> > > > > > >>> Namaskar> > > > > > >>> Thank you very much for your guidance. I like to hear> > > > your> > > > > > >>> comments, not just about me, but even regarding other> > > > > > >>> person/subject> > > > > > >>> Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still> > > > wearing> > > > > a> > > > > > >>> Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring finger.> > > > Should> > > > > that> > > > > > >>> be removed too? Not that I see any visible difference> > > > after> > > > > > >>> wearing it.> > > > > > >>> I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean Coral in> > > > my> > > > > case)> > > > > > >>> in gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions for> > > > this.> > > > > > >>> Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow> > > > Sapphire to> > > > > > >>> boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due to> > > > > Rahu's 9th> > > > > > >>> aspect. Is it appropriate?> > > > > > >>> As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good period> > > > > since> > > > > > >>> the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic gains> > > > > now and> > > > > > >>> then but nothing substantial. I would love to change the> > > > > > >>> situation, if I can, and solicit your advice in this> > > > > regard. If> > > > > > >>> you will be kind enough to please give me a clear idea> > > > what> > > > > I> > > > > > >>> can do.> > > > > > >>> Regards> > > > > > >>> Sunil> > > > > > >>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@> > > > wp.pl>/*> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>> > > > > > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing> > > > Gemstones> > > > > (Sunil)> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > > > > >>> Dear Sunil , Namaskar> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with> > > > rahu in> > > > > > >>> Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna idol/picture to> > > > > > >>> temple/spiritual person.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> You can wear only Coral.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in> > > > > third/ninth> > > > > > >>> - only in dasa of this malefic - instead use right> > > > hand> > > > > with> > > > > > >>> fortune-gem.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana and> > > > > > >>> worship Hanumanji sincerly!> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome> > > > as> > > > > its> > > > > > >>> the strength period (neechavastha) , after initial> > > > > struggle> > > > > > >>> there should be improvement due to exaltation in d9.> > > > > This> > > > > > >>> period works for spirituality a lot due to karakaamsa> > > > > > >>> position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra and> > > > being> > > > > GK> > > > > > >>> it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be> > > > > > >>> strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact> > > > that> > > > > Mo> > > > > > >>> in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H).> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Regards,> > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > > > > >>> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com/ > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/>> > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/ <http://www.rohinaa. com/>>> /> > > > > email:> > > > > > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Sunil Sharma pisze:> > > > > > >>>> Dear Maja,> > > > > > >>>> I fully appreciate your openness about various> > > > > observations> > > > > > >>>> made so far. At least you are better than me when> > > > you> > > > > say> > > > > > >>>> few charts are clear to you. To me all of them look> > > > > confusing.> > > > > > >>>> My birth data is as follows:> > > > > > >>>> DOB: 21st September 1955> > > > > > >>>> TOB: 10:32 A.M.> > > > > > >>>> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)> > > > > > >>>> Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am> > > > not> > > > > in a> > > > > > >>>> hurry.> > > > > > >>>> Regards> > > > > > >>>> Sunil> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08,> > > > majastrbacastro /<majastrbacastro@> > > > > > >>>> > <majastrbaca stro@>/* wrote:> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> <majastrbaca stro@>> > > > > > >>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing> > > > Gemstones> > > > > (Sunil)> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > >>>> Dear Sunil,> > > > > > >>>> Namaste> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> My decision> > > > > > >>>> to wear that gift I received has nothing to do> > > > > with> > > > > > >>>> procedure of determining proper gemstone It> > > > is> > > > > just that I wear> > > > > > >>>> jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find> > > > it> > > > > very entertaining> > > > > > >>>> to learn about gemstones (not just for past two> > > > > days), for past> > > > > > >>>> month or two I had a few dialogues regarding> > > > same> > > > > kind of ring that> > > > > > >>>> you are wearing right now, and it turned out it> > > > is> > > > > not suitable for> > > > > > >>>> me when I was about to buy one. What happened> > > > > yesterday I consider> > > > > > >>>> it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for> > > > > few months. (If I> > > > > > >>>> suddenly disappear from list it will mean that> > > > it> > > > > was a wrong> > > > > > >>>> decision > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would> > > > > like to look at> > > > > > >>>> whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to> > > > > take it just as an> > > > > > >>>> opinion. As I have said on the beginning of> > > > this> > > > > thread I am not> > > > > > >>>> quite skilled with this issue, so have this> > > > > > >>>> in mind (Though it was> > > > > > >>>> not so difficult for me to say that ruby is> > > > proper> > > > > > >>>> gemstone for> > > > > > >>>> Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so> > > > > confusing as they> > > > > > >>>> often could be in various charts. When> > > > positions> > > > > in chart are> > > > > > >>>> complicated I choose to say "I don't know"> > > > rather> > > > > than to ruin> > > > > > >>>> someone's life.)> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> Regards,> > > > > > >>>> Maja> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> , Sunil> > > > > Sharma> > > > > > >>>> <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > Dear Maja,> > > > > > >>>> > I have been reading each and every message on> > > > > this thread and, at> > > > > > >>>> the outset, was surprised to read about> > > > Neeraj's> > > > > observations.> > > > > > >>>> However, things became quite clear later on> > > > > especially with your> > > > > > >>>> comments on antardasha.> > > > > > >>>> > Your very last sentence in your last mail> > > > (even> > > > > though chandra is> > > > > > >>>> not lording my trines) caught my attention.> > > > > Debilitated chandra (in> > > > > > >>>> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my> > > > > chart with exalted> > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka> > > > > > >>>> Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu> > > > conjoining> > > > > moon in> > > > > > >>>> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th> > > > > > >>>> house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY> > > > > > >>>> or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So,> > > > the> > > > > net result is> > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already> > > > > afflicted due to> > > > > > >>>> debilitation) is afflicted. All this is> > > > something> > > > > I have been told> > > > > > >>>> by various astrologers (not necessarily all at> > > > the> > > > > same time).> > > > > > >>>> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and> > > > Diamond> > > > > to me. I am still> > > > > > >>>> wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand> > > > > ring finger> > > > > > >>>> (presently going through Venus dasha), and> > > > Coral> > > > > in gold pendant in> > > > > > >>>> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier> > > > > but changed it to a> > > > > > >>>> pendant and wore it in the neck in a black> > > > string.> > > > > I have since> > > > > > >>>> removed it but I must say that whenever I wear> > > > > Pearl it quietens my> > > > > > >>>> temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any> > > > > improvement in my> > > > > > >>>> career or financial aspects.> > > > > > >>>> > Now, my real question to you is> > > > > > >>>> this. Moon being afflicted and> > > > > > >>>> left hand to be used (for the effect to be> > > > > reduced), I should> > > > > > >>>> have> > > > > > >>>> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You> > > > > may take few days to> > > > > > >>>> reply! I am not in a hurry.> > > > > > >>>> > Regards> > > > > > >>>> > Sunil> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro> > > > > <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > >>>> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...>> > > > > > >>>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing> > > > > Gemstones (Swami)> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > Namaste dear Swami,> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra> > > > > being unfavorable> > > > > > >>>> Graha> > > > > > >>>> > in this chart, those mentioned were the only> > > > one> > > > > I could find (and> > > > > > >>>> > that was after quite some time spent in> > > > serious> > > > > thinking). It is> > > > > > >>>> my> > > > > > >>>> > mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra and> > > > > Maheshvara in Shula> > > > > > >>>> dasa> > > > > > >>>> > somewhere in my> > > > > > >>>> memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I> > > > did> > > > > > >>>> say> > > > > > >>>> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any> > > > > > >>>> significance to wear gemstone> > > > > > >>>> > for it (either to increase or to decrease).> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > So far I was informed about just a few rules> > > > > regarding determining> > > > > > >>>> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I> > > > thought> > > > > that Ketu/Rahu> > > > > > >>>> could> > > > > > >>>> > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th> > > > > from AK or if Rahu> > > > > > >>>> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful> > > > > information about this> > > > > > >>>> > issue.> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue...> > > > I> > > > > received one> > > > > > >>>> > completely unexpected gift today afternoon:> > > > > silver ring with a> > > > > > >>>> pearl> > > > > > >>>> > and matching silver pectoral also decorated> > > > with> > > > > pearls. What is> > > > > > >>>> > this today...? I was never this much involved> > > > in> > > > > any thread so> > > > > > >>>> far.> > > > > > >>>> > WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear it, even> > > > > though Chandra is not> > > > > > >>>> > lording my trines.> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> Regards,> > > > > > >>>> > Maja> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > --- In> > > > > > >>>> , "swami"> > > > <swami@>> > > > > > >>>> wrote:> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > > > > > >>>> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah> > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om,> > > > > > >>>> > > Dear Maja,> > > > > > >>>> > > Your insights are great, incidently I was> > > > > struck at your> > > > > > >>>> mention> > > > > > >>>> > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I> > > > > don't think> > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any> > > > > significance) .> > > > > > >>>> > > I could not understand How sukra is> > > > > maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu> > > > > > >>>> as> > > > > > >>>> > maheswar planet . that also is appears> > > > incorrect.> > > > > > >>>> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu> > > > so> > > > > count to 8 th> > > > > > >>>> would> > > > > > >>>> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads> > > > to> > > > > Leo.> > > > > > >>>> > > The sign lord is SUN.> > > > > > >>>> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN> > > > > becomes Brahma Planet.> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th> > > > and> > > > > 12 th from Sun> > > > > > >>>> the> > > > > > >>>> > maheswar.> > > > > > >>>> > > Eight> > > > > > >>>> lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.> > > > > > >>>> > > We apply parashar strength to determne> > > > > strenth.Ketu and jup are> > > > > > >>>> > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so> > > > as> > > > > per naisargic bal> > > > > > >>>> Jup> > > > > > >>>> > is Maheswar.> > > > > > >>>> > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47> > > > sutra.> > > > > > >>>> > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is> > > > > discussed.> > > > > > >>>> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih> > > > > knowledge .So Gem stone of> > > > > > >>>> > planet that is maheswar if put in left should> > > > > diminish> > > > > > >>>> knowledge.If> > > > > > >>>> > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of> > > > > vedic shahstra.> > > > > > >>>> > > Perhaps native has tried many gems.> > > > > > >>>> > > By the way, influence of wearing planet> > > > > related to maheshwar is> > > > > > >>>> > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i> > > > could> > > > > access, so this> > > > > > >>>> > last suggestion may be taken just a logical> > > > > > >>>> aplication.> > > > > > >>>> > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.> > > > > > >>>> > > with regards.> > > > > > >>>> > > OM TATSAT> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > > ---> > > > > -- ---------> > > > > > >>>> > > Swami_RCS> > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- -> > > > ---> > > > > ----- --------> > > > > > >>>> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious> > > > effulgence> > > > > of that Divine> > > > > > >>>> Being> > > > > > >>>> > who has created the three worlds.May He> > > > Direct> > > > > our understanding. "> > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- -> > > > ---> > > > > ----- --------- --------> > > > > > >>>> --> > > > > > >>>> > -> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> > > -> > > > > > >>>> > > majastrbacastro> > > > > > >>>> > > To: > > > > > > >>>> > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM> > > > > > >>>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing> > > > > Gemstones> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing> > > > > zircon on his left> > > > > > >>>> hand,> > > > > > >>>> > so> > > > > > >>>> > > that means he was weakening his lord of> > > > > > >>>> 10th bhava in 9th...> > > > > > >>>> And> > > > > > >>>> > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd> > > > > bhava (which is> > > > > > >>>> > considered> > > > > > >>>> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also> > > > > maheshvara.. . but I don't> > > > > > >>>> > think> > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any> > > > > significance) .> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> > > I really dislike complicating simple> > > > things,> > > > > but this time I> > > > > > >>>> can> > > > > > >>>> > not> > > > > > >>>> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in> > > > > Dhanu, yet Mithuna is> > > > > > >>>> > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra> > > > and> > > > > Guru in it. That> > > > > > >>>> > means> > > > > > >>>> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his> > > > > Arudha Lagna. 12th> > > > > > >>>> lord> > > > > > >>>> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from> > > > Arudha> > > > > Lagna signifies> > > > > > >>>> > > expenses. He was weakening this one also.> > > > > These are just> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> thoughts...> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> > > Regards,> > > > > > >>>> > > Maja> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> > > --- In> > > > > > >>>> , RKM> > > > > <rajeevmundra@ >> > > > > > >>>> wrote:> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > Dear Neeraj> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in> > > > 9th> > > > > house which is a> > > > > > >>>> > Royal> > > > > > >>>> > > Yoga.> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have> > > > > helped you grow in your> > > > > > >>>> > > career.> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very> > > > > suitable.> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter> > > > and> > > > > Moon. -ve.> > > > > > >>>> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve> > > > > (but ok if malefic> > > > > > >>>> > > debiliated in 12th> > > > > > >>>> > > > house)> > > > > > >>>> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.> > > > > > >>>> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and> > > > just> > > > > out> > > > > > >>>> of 8th house.> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and> > > > relatively> > > > > unafflicted is> > > > > > >>>> > working> > > > > > >>>> > > the> > > > > > >>>> best.> > > > > > >>>> > > > Suns stone would probably give you> > > > better> > > > > health and overall> > > > > > >>>> > luck.> > > > > > >>>> > > > But venus will cause growth in career.> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > --> > > > > > >>>> > > > Ã'Ã...ò Ã'Ã"Ã0/00Ã'Ã"Ã?Ã'Ã"f> > > > > Ã'Ã"´Ã'Ã"Æ'Ã'Ã"²Ã'Ã"¬Ã'Ã"Ã?> > > > > > >>>> > > > RKM> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda> > > > > krsna> > > > > > >>>> <yasodakrsna@ >> > > > > > >>>> > > wrote:> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj,> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of> > > > SJC> > > > > have made error.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Particularly in my case was> > > > recommended> > > > > Coral by one,> > > > > > >>>> Ruby> > > > > > >>>> > by> > > > > > >>>> > > two.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by> > > > > > >>>> recommended quality> > > > > > >>>> > gemologist.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not> > > > by> > > > > internet> > > > > > >>>> questions> > > > > > >>>> > but> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > by paid> > > > > > >>>> > > > > services.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > The good thing was the price of gold> > > > > soared and made good> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> > money> > > > > > >>>> > > by selling> > > > > > >>>> > > > > it.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath> > > > recommendation> > > > > of yellow> > > > > > >>>> sapphire> > > > > > >>>> > as> > > > > > >>>> > > it works.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their> > > > > Devata for the> > > > > > >>>> prediction> > > > > > >>>> > to> > > > > > >>>> > > be true.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Yasoda.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than> > > > > gemstone if sincere> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_> > > > 2000@>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > vedic astrology@ . com;> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM> > > > > > >>>> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru]> > > > > > >>>> Choosing Gemstones> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > It's been more than four years that I> > > > > studied> > > > > > >>>> different> > > > > > >>>> > books on> > > > > > >>>> > > gemstones> > > > > > >>>> > > > > and got advise from different good> > > > > astrologers about the> > > > > > >>>> > > gemstone. But none> > > > > > >>>> > > > > of them gave very good result.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > As of now, some of the following> > > > > theories are present for> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> > > choosing> > > > > > >>>> > > > > gemstone.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord> > > > > > >>>> (recommended by many> > > > > > >>>> astrologers)> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1,> > > > 5,> > > > > and 9) - Anukool> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > However, I recently found that one> > > > > gemstone worked very> > > > > > >>>> well> > > > > > >>>> > for> > > > > > >>>> > > me. After> > > > > > >>>> > > > > wearing that I got a very good> > > > results> > > > > in my career and> > > > > > >>>> also> > > > > > >>>> > my> > > > > > >>>> > > income> > > > > > >>>> > > > > increased by more than 100% in> > > > approx. 4> > > > > months.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not> > > > recommended> > > > > to me by any> > > > > > >>>> > astrologer> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> > > (though I> > > > > > >>>> > > > > consulted several ones in person) and> > > > in> > > > > no such book it> > > > > > >>>> was> > > > > > >>>> > > mentioned that> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > I should choose this gemstone. I read> > > > > approximately 8-10> > > > > > >>>> > books> > > > > > >>>> > > on gem> > > > > > >>>> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I> > > > > was not advised to> > > > > > >>>> > wear> > > > > > >>>> > > this gemstone.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby,> > > > > Yellow Sapphire and> > > > > > >>>> Red> > > > > > >>>> > Coral> > > > > > >>>> > > by> > > > > > >>>> > > > > different astrologers. One even> > > > advised> > > > > blue sapphire,> > > > > > >>>> that> > > > > > >>>> > made> > > > > > >>>> > > matters> > > > > > >>>> > > > > worse.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details> > > > and> > > > > then I will tell> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> > gem> > > > > > >>>> > > stone that> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> > > worked for me.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon> > > > > (Substitute of> > > > > > >>>> Diamond).> > > > > > >>>> > I> > > > > > >>>> > > worn this in> > > > > > >>>> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and> > > > things> > > > > started working> > > > > > >>>> > positive> > > > > > >>>> > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing> > > > > exceptional in> > > > > > >>>> my> > > > > > >>>> > > personal / work> > > > > > >>>> > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be> > > > > noted.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. It's not lord of> > > > > > >>>> trines.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not> > > > running.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Still, it gave me good results.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way> > > > > that may be tried> > > > > > >>>> if> > > > > > >>>> > some> > > > > > >>>> > > one wants> > > > > > >>>> > > > > to try. Please share your results, so> > > > > that we can know> > > > > > >>>> more> > > > > > >>>> > > about this.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in> > > > 1,5,9> > > > > house.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If> > > > > any of the planets> > > > > > >>>> > that> > > > > > >>>> > > were in 1,5,9> > > > > > >>>> > > > > house moves to> > > > > > >>>> some other house, ignore that planet.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines> > > > > (1,5,9) in both natal> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> > chart> > > > > > >>>> > > and> > > > > > >>>> bhava> > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore> > > > rahu,> > > > > ketu)> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found> > > > till> > > > > step 3 is> > > > > > >>>> benefic> > > > > > >>>> > for> > > > > > >>>> > > your> > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose> > > > the> > > > > main gemstone of> > > > > > >>>> > that> > > > > > >>>> > > planet and> > > > > > >>>> > > > > wear it in the right hand.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet> > > > that> > > > > was found in> > > > > > >>>> step> > > > > > >>>> 3> > > > > > >>>> > is> > > > > > >>>> > > malefic,> > > > > > >>>> > > > > then choose the substitute gem for> > > > that> > > > > planet and wear> > > > > > >>>> it> > > > > > >>>> > in> > > > > > >>>> > > the left hand.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > The above was just a thought that came to my> > > > > mind and if> > > > > > >>>> > some> > > > > > >>>> > > one wants to> > > > > > >>>> > > > > try it, they may do so for> > > > experiment.> > > > > Kindly share with> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> > other> > > > > > >>>> > > members, if> > > > > > >>>> > > > > this method works for you.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Regards,> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > ~ om tat sat ~> > > > > > >>>> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the> > > > > Achyuta Ashram.> > > > > > >>>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari> > > > > Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> > > > > > >>>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar> > > > > the Great who said> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> that the human> > > > > > >>>> > stomach should not become a graveyard for> > > > > animals.> > > > > > >>>> > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do> > > > > one free chart> > > > > > >>>> reading> > > > > > >>>> > today> > > > > > >>>> Links> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> ~ om tat sat ~> > > > > > >>>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the> > > > > Achyuta Ashram.> > > > > > >>>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari> > > > Mantra 'Hare> > > > > Rama Krishna'> > > > > > >>>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar> > > > the> > > > > Great who said that the human> > > > > > >>>> stomach should not become a graveyard for> > > > animals.> > > > > > >>>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do> > > > one> > > > > free chart reading> > > > > > >>>> today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Anna , Namaskar When badhakesh is unafflicted (benefic/strong/12H) then it takes away the obstacles and from that perspective its positive. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal 108ar pisze: Dear Raphal and Maja, I am dying to learn why/when 'Badhakesh can be blessing for an individual, as Raphael wrote. btw. I read all your posts with interest, I appreciate that you both are honest and open-minded astrol's best wishes, Anna --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ > wrote: Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Rafal Ji) sohamsa@ .com Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:02 PM Om Gurave Namah Namaste dear Rafal Ji, Okay... let me finally introduce myself: My name is Maja and I have no idea yet what is the art design for front page of "Vedic remedies" by Sanjay Rath, but I am about to find it out till the end of this month when friend of mine is supposed to come back from India with my copy of this book. Nice to meet you too. 1. You see, that list of "NO" points are what I have learned so far about gemstones, so when you take it in consideration, the only conclusion I can make for now is that there is no suitable gemstone I can prescribe for any Kanya lagna (including myself, and (still only with taking that list in consideration) especially because of Sk in trika bhava). That is the reason why I wrote that I find that list very frustrating. Of course, another reason is that I assumed that there must be deeper story behind those points I wrote, except I haven't got that far yet (I don't have a plan to stop myself here with gemstones, don't worry). I'll trust you on that advice about diamond exactly because I understand that this list is not "the edge of the world" about criteria for choosing. But it is nice to find out at the same time that I can advice diamond to a friend of mine who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is in 9th bhava. If I am o.k. she is going to bloom with diamond. As I understand in her case there is no single reason to avoid it. 2. Well I am at the kinder garden level with gemstones. I just play with that a little. (But mantras are still… There I am a new born baby) Right now I am doing everything possible from my position to get closer to elementary school. (Don't take personally following lines, please. It is nothing pointed to you.) "Badhakesh many times is blessing to the native". From the perspective of kinder garden I can give no knowledgably comment on this sentence. By the time I reach that deeper perspective I just hope that I shall not meet with explanation that sounds like "If you focus real hard you can prove hypothesis that elephant can hang over from a cliff with his tail holding to a daisy", because I ran off from Western Astrology exactly because of such things. I would take it real hard to disappoint in Jyotish. That explanation better be very good and reasonable. Regards, Maja Hari Om Tat Sat sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > 1. Why is it frustrating for Kanya with Shukra in trika? Do you mean it > takes away the viveka to choose a gem as general or its problematic to > choose a gem for you? For your chart its diamond..easy. > > 2. In choosing a gem the planet (gem-karaka) should bless one with the > material / emotional goods. So dusthana, maraka, badhakesh, neelam can > be good depending on a chart - as they can provide goods to the native. > Sri Jagannath Center tries to teach class of astrologers which will rise > above those generalizations like 'dusthana is bad, maraka is bad, > badhakesh is bad' etc..thats kindergarden astrology. Badhakesh many > times is blessing to the native. > > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal > > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste dear Rafal ji, > > > > Ohh... so that was the catch! Thank you very much. > > > > It is just that I find following list very frustrating sometimes: > > > > Lord of 2nd & 7th, maraka-NO! > > Lord of 6, 8 & 12th, dustahn-NO! > > Lord of 3rd & 11th, trika-NO! > > Graha in dustahn-NO! > > Graha in trika-NO! > > Badhakesh-NO! > > Blue sapphire-NO! > > Green emerald-NO! > > > > (I also find it very frustrating because I am Kanya lagna with Sukra > > in trika bhava > > > > Regards, > > Maja > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > Dear Maja & SS , Namaskar > > > > > > Usually we perscribe gems for kona lords to increase the rise, > > fortune > > > and wealth of native. > > > > > > Here Mangal is unafflicted and wellplaced so it will give effect > > of > > > Lagnesh and not sixth lord. > > > > > > Instead Shani will give effect of sixth lord giving problem to > > pitta and > > > tridoshic problems of genital area/anus (right side) (82-91). > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > I don't have to write too much, question is same (down there in > > > > previous email from SS). > > > > > > > > Help us? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Maja > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com> > > <sohamsa% > > 40. com>, > > > > "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > Please can you advise why Coral will be appropriate even though > > > > Mars > > > > > is 6th lord? > > > > > Is it because it lords 9th from AL? > > > > > > > > > > Many thanx > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > <sohamsa% 40. com> <sohamsa% > > 40. com>, > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the gem will > > activate > > > > it. > > > > > > Parivartana means that Diamond will activate Bu in 3 from AL > > > > which > > > > > > afflicts career life and skills of native. > > > > > > 2. Neck influences thinking. > > > > > > 3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet forward in > > > > > kalachakra > > > > > > scheme. > > > > > > 4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak. Badhakesh in > > > > lagna > > > > > is > > > > > > corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga > > > > > > 5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in twelfth. I follow > > > > Sanjayji > > > > > who > > > > > > also looks at lord when bhava is empty. > > > > > > 6. We can do everything if we know what we are doing. > > Planets in > > > > > lagna, > > > > > > fifth and tenth eclipses the others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rajarshi nandy pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was trying to understand your advise to Mr Sunil. It > > would > > > > be > > > > > great > > > > > > > if you could kindly clarify some points which I could not > > > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th lord, due to > > yuti > > > > > causing > > > > > > > exchange of effects? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck? What is its > > > > > significance? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will give effects > > of > > > > > shani. > > > > > > > Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? But i > > thought > > > > it > > > > > was > > > > > > > for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please tell me the > > exact > > > > > rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa badhaka. In > > that > > > > > case > > > > > > > shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to nagraj temple? > > Why > > > > is > > > > > the > > > > > > > Krishna idol donation neeeded? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajarshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /* > > > > > > > *"This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet* > > > > > > > */ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ >/* wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > > @ . com > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > > > > > Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > >> Dear Sunil, Namaskar > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> 1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord which is > > > > > > >> negative, but will also improve the finances and > > > > Chandra..so > > > > > its > > > > > > >> not perfect. Coral has less side-effects here. > > > > > > >> 2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for karma. > > > > > > >> 3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified by AK. > > > > Irs > > > > > also > > > > > > >> in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL. > > > > > > >> 4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial setbacks > > > > > (rasi) > > > > > > >> and then improvement (navamsa). > > > > > > >> 5. Just please try to perform those remedies which I have > > > > > given > > > > > > >> in the last mail. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the Sarpa > > > > should > > > > > be > > > > > > >> broken and the ninth lord should be lifted - Bhuvanesvari. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be > > > > remedied > > > > > by > > > > > > >> gift of idol/picture related to Sri Krishna. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Regards, > > > > > > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > >> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> Dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > >>> Namaskar > > > > > > >>> Thank you very much for your guidance. I like to hear > > > > your > > > > > > >>> comments, not just about me, but even regarding other > > > > > > >>> person/subject > > > > > > >>> Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still > > > > wearing > > > > > a > > > > > > >>> Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring finger. > > > > Should > > > > > that > > > > > > >>> be removed too? Not that I see any visible difference > > > > after > > > > > > >>> wearing it. > > > > > > >>> I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean Coral in > > > > my > > > > > case) > > > > > > >>> in gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions for > > > > this. > > > > > > >>> Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow > > > > Sapphire to > > > > > > >>> boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due to > > > > > Rahu's 9th > > > > > > >>> aspect. Is it appropriate? > > > > > > >>> As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good period > > > > > since > > > > > > >>> the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic gains > > > > > now and > > > > > > >>> then but nothing substantial. I would love to change the > > > > > > >>> situation, if I can, and solicit your advice in this > > > > > regard. If > > > > > > >>> you will be kind enough to please give me a clear idea > > > > what > > > > > I > > > > > > >>> can do. > > > > > > >>> Regards > > > > > > >>> Sunil > > > > > > >>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ > > > > wp.pl>/* > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > > > > > > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > Gemstones > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > >>> @ . com > > > > > > >>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > >>> Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with > > > > rahu in > > > > > > >>> Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna idol/picture to > > > > > > >>> temple/spiritual person. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> You can wear only Coral. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in > > > > > third/ninth > > > > > > >>> - only in dasa of this malefic - instead use right > > > > hand > > > > > with > > > > > > >>> fortune-gem. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana and > > > > > > >>> worship Hanumanji sincerly! > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome > > > > as > > > > > its > > > > > > >>> the strength period (neechavastha) , after initial > > > > > struggle > > > > > > >>> there should be improvement due to exaltation in d9. > > > > > This > > > > > > >>> period works for spirituality a lot due to karakaamsa > > > > > > >>> position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra and > > > > being > > > > > GK > > > > > > >>> it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be > > > > > > >>> strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact > > > > that > > > > > Mo > > > > > > >>> in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H). > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Regards, > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > >>> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com/ > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/> > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/ <http://www.rohinaa. com/>>> / > > > > > email: > > > > > > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > > > >>>> Dear Maja, > > > > > > >>>> I fully appreciate your openness about various > > > > > observations > > > > > > >>>> made so far. At least you are better than me when > > > > you > > > > > say > > > > > > >>>> few charts are clear to you. To me all of them look > > > > > confusing. > > > > > > >>>> My birth data is as follows: > > > > > > >>>> DOB: 21st September 1955 > > > > > > >>>> TOB: 10:32 A.M. > > > > > > >>>> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27) > > > > > > >>>> Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am > > > > not > > > > > in a > > > > > > >>>> hurry. > > > > > > >>>> Regards > > > > > > >>>> Sunil > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, > > > > majastrbacastro /<majastrbacastro@ > > > > > > >>>> > <majastrbaca stro@>/* wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> <majastrbaca stro@> > > > > > > >>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > Gemstones > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > >>>> @ . com > > > > > > >>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > >>>> Dear Sunil, > > > > > > >>>> Namaste > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> My decision > > > > > > >>>> to wear that gift I received has nothing to do > > > > > with > > > > > > >>>> procedure of determining proper gemstone It > > > > is > > > > > just that I wear > > > > > > >>>> jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find > > > > it > > > > > very entertaining > > > > > > >>>> to learn about gemstones (not just for past two > > > > > days), for past > > > > > > >>>> month or two I had a few dialogues regarding > > > > same > > > > > kind of ring that > > > > > > >>>> you are wearing right now, and it turned out it > > > > is > > > > > not suitable for > > > > > > >>>> me when I was about to buy one. What happened > > > > > yesterday I consider > > > > > > >>>> it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for > > > > > few months. (If I > > > > > > >>>> suddenly disappear from list it will mean that > > > > it > > > > > was a wrong > > > > > > >>>> decision > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would > > > > > like to look at > > > > > > >>>> whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to > > > > > take it just as an > > > > > > >>>> opinion. As I have said on the beginning of > > > > this > > > > > thread I am not > > > > > > >>>> quite skilled with this issue, so have this > > > > > > >>>> in mind (Though it was > > > > > > >>>> not so difficult for me to say that ruby is > > > > proper > > > > > > >>>> gemstone for > > > > > > >>>> Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so > > > > > confusing as they > > > > > > >>>> often could be in various charts. When > > > > positions > > > > > in chart are > > > > > > >>>> complicated I choose to say "I don't know" > > > > rather > > > > > than to ruin > > > > > > >>>> someone's life.) > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > > > >>>> Maja > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> @ . com, Sunil > > > > > Sharma > > > > > > >>>> <sunilsharma21@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > Dear Maja, > > > > > > >>>> > I have been reading each and every message on > > > > > this thread and, at > > > > > > >>>> the outset, was surprised to read about > > > > Neeraj's > > > > > observations. > > > > > > >>>> However, things became quite clear later on > > > > > especially with your > > > > > > >>>> comments on antardasha. > > > > > > >>>> > Your very last sentence in your last mail > > > > (even > > > > > though chandra is > > > > > > >>>> not lording my trines) caught my attention. > > > > > Debilitated chandra (in > > > > > > >>>> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my > > > > > chart with exalted > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka > > > > > > >>>> Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu > > > > conjoining > > > > > moon in > > > > > > >>>> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th > > > > > > >>>> house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY > > > > > > >>>> or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, > > > > the > > > > > net result is > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already > > > > > afflicted due to > > > > > > >>>> debilitation) is afflicted. All this is > > > > something > > > > > I have been told > > > > > > >>>> by various astrologers (not necessarily all at > > > > the > > > > > same time). > > > > > > >>>> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and > > > > Diamond > > > > > to me. I am still > > > > > > >>>> wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand > > > > > ring finger > > > > > > >>>> (presently going through Venus dasha), and > > > > Coral > > > > > in gold pendant in > > > > > > >>>> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier > > > > > but changed it to a > > > > > > >>>> pendant and wore it in the neck in a black > > > > string. > > > > > I have since > > > > > > >>>> removed it but I must say that whenever I wear > > > > > Pearl it quietens my > > > > > > >>>> temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any > > > > > improvement in my > > > > > > >>>> career or financial aspects. > > > > > > >>>> > Now, my real question to you is > > > > > > >>>> this. Moon being afflicted and > > > > > > >>>> left hand to be used (for the effect to be > > > > > reduced), I should > > > > > > >>>> have > > > > > > >>>> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You > > > > > may take few days to > > > > > > >>>> reply! I am not in a hurry. > > > > > > >>>> > Regards > > > > > > >>>> > Sunil > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro > > > > > <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> > > > > > > >>>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > Gemstones (Swami) > > > > > > >>>> > @ . com > > > > > > >>>> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > Namaste dear Swami, > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra > > > > > being unfavorable > > > > > > >>>> Graha > > > > > > >>>> > in this chart, those mentioned were the only > > > > one > > > > > I could find (and > > > > > > >>>> > that was after quite some time spent in > > > > serious > > > > > thinking). It is > > > > > > >>>> my > > > > > > >>>> > mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra and > > > > > Maheshvara in Shula > > > > > > >>>> dasa > > > > > > >>>> > somewhere in my > > > > > > >>>> memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I > > > > did > > > > > > >>>> say > > > > > > >>>> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any > > > > > > >>>> significance to wear gemstone > > > > > > >>>> > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > So far I was informed about just a few rules > > > > > regarding determining > > > > > > >>>> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I > > > > thought > > > > > that Ketu/Rahu > > > > > > >>>> could > > > > > > >>>> > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th > > > > > from AK or if Rahu > > > > > > >>>> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful > > > > > information about this > > > > > > >>>> > issue. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... > > > > I > > > > > received one > > > > > > >>>> > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: > > > > > silver ring with a > > > > > > >>>> pearl > > > > > > >>>> > and matching silver pectoral also decorated > > > > with > > > > > pearls. What is > > > > > > >>>> > this today...? I was never this much involved > > > > in > > > > > any thread so > > > > > > >>>> far. > > > > > > >>>> > WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear it, even > > > > > though Chandra is not > > > > > > >>>> > lording my trines. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > > > >>>> > Maja > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > --- In > > > > > > >>>> @ . com, "swami" > > > > <swami@> > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > >>>> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om, > > > > > > >>>> > > Dear Maja, > > > > > > >>>> > > Your insights are great, incidently I was > > > > > struck at your > > > > > > >>>> mention > > > > > > >>>> > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I > > > > > don't think > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > > > significance) . > > > > > > >>>> > > I could not understand How sukra is > > > > > maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu > > > > > > >>>> as > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar planet . that also is appears > > > > incorrect. > > > > > > >>>> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu > > > > so > > > > > count to 8 th > > > > > > >>>> would > > > > > > >>>> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads > > > > to > > > > > Leo. > > > > > > >>>> > > The sign lord is SUN. > > > > > > >>>> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN > > > > > becomes Brahma Planet. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th > > > > and > > > > > 12 th from Sun > > > > > > >>>> the > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar. > > > > > > >>>> > > Eight > > > > > > >>>> lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup. > > > > > > >>>> > > We apply parashar strength to determne > > > > > strenth.Ketu and jup are > > > > > > >>>> > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so > > > > as > > > > > per naisargic bal > > > > > > >>>> Jup > > > > > > >>>> > is Maheswar. > > > > > > >>>> > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 > > > > sutra. > > > > > > >>>> > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is > > > > > discussed. > > > > > > >>>> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih > > > > > knowledge .So Gem stone of > > > > > > >>>> > planet that is maheswar if put in left should > > > > > diminish > > > > > > >>>> knowledge.If > > > > > > >>>> > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of > > > > > vedic shahstra. > > > > > > >>>> > > Perhaps native has tried many gems. > > > > > > >>>> > > By the way, influence of wearing planet > > > > > related to maheshwar is > > > > > > >>>> > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i > > > > could > > > > > access, so this > > > > > > >>>> > last suggestion may be taken just a logical > > > > > > >>>> aplication. > > > > > > >>>> > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment. > > > > > > >>>> > > with regards. > > > > > > >>>> > > OM TATSAT > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > --- > > > > > -- --------- > > > > > > >>>> > > Swami_RCS > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > > > --- > > > > > ----- -------- > > > > > > >>>> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious > > > > effulgence > > > > > of that Divine > > > > > > >>>> Being > > > > > > >>>> > who has created the three worlds.May He > > > > Direct > > > > > our understanding. " > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > > > --- > > > > > ----- --------- -------- > > > > > > >>>> -- > > > > > > >>>> > - > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > >>>> > > majastrbacastro > > > > > > >>>> > > To: > > > > > > >>>> > > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM > > > > > > >>>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > Gemstones > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?), > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing > > > > > zircon on his left > > > > > > >>>> hand, > > > > > > >>>> > so > > > > > > >>>> > > that means he was weakening his lord of > > > > > > >>>> 10th bhava in 9th... > > > > > > >>>> And > > > > > > >>>> > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd > > > > > bhava (which is > > > > > > >>>> > considered > > > > > > >>>> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also > > > > > maheshvara.. . but I don't > > > > > > >>>> > think > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > > > significance) . > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I really dislike complicating simple > > > > things, > > > > > but this time I > > > > > > >>>> can > > > > > > >>>> > not > > > > > > >>>> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in > > > > > Dhanu, yet Mithuna is > > > > > > >>>> > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra > > > > and > > > > > Guru in it. That > > > > > > >>>> > means > > > > > > >>>> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his > > > > > Arudha Lagna. 12th > > > > > > >>>> lord > > > > > > >>>> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from > > > > Arudha > > > > > Lagna signifies > > > > > > >>>> > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. > > > > > These are just > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> thoughts... > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Regards, > > > > > > >>>> > > Maja > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > --- In > > > > > > >>>> @ . com, RKM > > > > > <rajeevmundra@ > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Dear Neeraj > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in > > > > 9th > > > > > house which is a > > > > > > >>>> > Royal > > > > > > >>>> > > Yoga. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have > > > > > helped you grow in your > > > > > > >>>> > > career. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very > > > > > suitable. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter > > > > and > > > > > Moon. -ve. > > > > > > >>>> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve > > > > > (but ok if malefic > > > > > > >>>> > > debiliated in 12th > > > > > > >>>> > > > house) > > > > > > >>>> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve. > > > > > > >>>> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and > > > > just > > > > > out > > > > > > >>>> of 8th house. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and > > > > relatively > > > > > unafflicted is > > > > > > >>>> > working > > > > > > >>>> > > the > > > > > > >>>> best. > > > > > > >>>> > > > Suns stone would probably give you > > > > better > > > > > health and overall > > > > > > >>>> > luck. > > > > > > >>>> > > > But venus will cause growth in career. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > -- > > > > > > >>>> > > > Ã'Ã...ò Ã'Ã"Ã0/00Ã'Ã"Ã?Ã'Ã"f > > > > > Ã'Ã"´Ã'Ã"Æ'Ã'Ã"²Ã'Ã"¬Ã'Ã"Ã? > > > > > > >>>> > > > RKM > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda > > > > > krsna > > > > > > >>>> <yasodakrsna@ > > > > > > > >>>> > > wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj, > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of > > > > SJC > > > > > have made error. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Particularly in my case was > > > > recommended > > > > > Coral by one, > > > > > > >>>> Ruby > > > > > > >>>> > by > > > > > > >>>> > > two. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by > > > > > > >>>> recommended quality > > > > > > >>>> > gemologist. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not > > > > by > > > > > internet > > > > > > >>>> questions > > > > > > >>>> > but > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > by paid > > > > > > >>>> > > > > services. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The good thing was the price of gold > > > > > soared and made good > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > money > > > > > > >>>> > > by selling > > > > > > >>>> > > > > it. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath > > > > recommendation > > > > > of yellow > > > > > > >>>> sapphire > > > > > > >>>> > as > > > > > > >>>> > > it works. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their > > > > > Devata for the > > > > > > >>>> prediction > > > > > > >>>> > to > > > > > > >>>> > > be true. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Yasoda. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than > > > > > gemstone if sincere > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ > > > > 2000@> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > To: vedic astrology; > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > @ . com > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM > > > > > > >>>> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > >>>> Choosing Gemstones > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > It's been more than four years that I > > > > > studied > > > > > > >>>> different > > > > > > >>>> > books on > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstones > > > > > > >>>> > > > > and got advise from different good > > > > > astrologers about the > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstone. But none > > > > > > >>>> > > > > of them gave very good result. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > As of now, some of the following > > > > > theories are present for > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > choosing > > > > > > >>>> > > > > gemstone. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord > > > > > > >>>> (recommended by many > > > > > > >>>> astrologers) > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, > > > > 5, > > > > > and 9) - Anukool > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool) > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > However, I recently found that one > > > > > gemstone worked very > > > > > > >>>> well > > > > > > >>>> > for > > > > > > >>>> > > me. After > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wearing that I got a very good > > > > results > > > > > in my career and > > > > > > >>>> also > > > > > > >>>> > my > > > > > > >>>> > > income > > > > > > >>>> > > > > increased by more than 100% in > > > > approx. 4 > > > > > months. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not > > > > recommended > > > > > to me by any > > > > > > >>>> > astrologer > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > (though I > > > > > > >>>> > > > > consulted several ones in person) and > > > > in > > > > > no such book it > > > > > > >>>> was > > > > > > >>>> > > mentioned that > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > I should choose this gemstone. I read > > > > > approximately 8-10 > > > > > > >>>> > books > > > > > > >>>> > > on gem > > > > > > >>>> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I > > > > > was not advised to > > > > > > >>>> > wear > > > > > > >>>> > > this gemstone. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, > > > > > Yellow Sapphire and > > > > > > >>>> Red > > > > > > >>>> > Coral > > > > > > >>>> > > by > > > > > > >>>> > > > > different astrologers. One even > > > > advised > > > > > blue sapphire, > > > > > > >>>> that > > > > > > >>>> > made > > > > > > >>>> > > matters > > > > > > >>>> > > > > worse. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details > > > > and > > > > > then I will tell > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > gem > > > > > > >>>> > > stone that > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > worked for me. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978 > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA) > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon > > > > > (Substitute of > > > > > > >>>> Diamond). > > > > > > >>>> > I > > > > > > >>>> > > worn this in > > > > > > >>>> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and > > > > things > > > > > started working > > > > > > >>>> > positive > > > > > > >>>> > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing > > > > > exceptional in > > > > > > >>>> my > > > > > > >>>> > > personal / work > > > > > > >>>> > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be > > > > > noted. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. It's not lord of > > > > > > >>>> trines. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not > > > > running. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Still, it gave me good results. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way > > > > > that may be tried > > > > > > >>>> if > > > > > > >>>> > some > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants > > > > > > >>>> > > > > to try. Please share your results, so > > > > > that we can know > > > > > > >>>> more > > > > > > >>>> > > about this. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in > > > > 1,5,9 > > > > > house. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If > > > > > any of the planets > > > > > > >>>> > that > > > > > > >>>> > > were in 1,5,9 > > > > > > >>>> > > > > house moves to > > > > > > >>>> some other house, ignore that planet. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines > > > > > (1,5,9) in both natal > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > chart > > > > > > >>>> > > and > > > > > > >>>> bhava > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore > > > > rahu, > > > > > ketu) > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found > > > > till > > > > > step 3 is > > > > > > >>>> benefic > > > > > > >>>> > for > > > > > > >>>> > > your > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose > > > > the > > > > > main gemstone of > > > > > > >>>> > that > > > > > > >>>> > > planet and > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wear it in the right hand. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet > > > > that > > > > > was found in > > > > > > >>>> step > > > > > > >>>> 3 > > > > > > >>>> > is > > > > > > >>>> > > malefic, > > > > > > >>>> > > > > then choose the substitute gem for > > > > that > > > > > planet and wear > > > > > > >>>> it > > > > > > >>>> > in > > > > > > >>>> > > the left hand. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > The above was just a thought that came to my > > > > > mind and if > > > > > > >>>> > some > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants to > > > > > > >>>> > > > > try it, they may do so for > > > > experiment. > > > > > Kindly share with > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > other > > > > > > >>>> > > members, if > > > > > > >>>> > > > > this method works for you. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Regards, > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > > > >>>> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > > > >>>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > > > > Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > > > > >>>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > > > > the Great who said > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> that the human > > > > > > >>>> > stomach should not become a graveyard for > > > > > animals. > > > > > > >>>> > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > > > > one free chart > > > > > > >>>> reading > > > > > > >>>> > today > > > > > > >>>> Links > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > > > >>>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > > > >>>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > > > Mantra 'Hare > > > > > Rama Krishna' > > > > > > >>>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > > > the > > > > > Great who said that the human > > > > > > >>>> stomach should not become a graveyard for > > > > animals. > > > > > > >>>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > > > one > > > > > free chart reading > > > > > > >>>> today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Dear Rafal, Thanks for your response- I've seen baadhakesh in 12th /giving it to others, as we learned/ in its`period being very challenging. My bdk. period, of Venus in sixth /mks/ was mostly 'profitable' for me. perid of Sa AD /lord of 7th and 8th/ was bad health-wise, but Sa aspects Ve in rashi. Best wishes, Anna--- On Sun, 7/13/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Rafal Ji)sohamsa Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 6:27 PM kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Anna , NamaskarWhen badhakesh is unafflicted (benefic/strong/ 12H) then it takes away the obstacles and from that perspective its positive.Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com108ar pisze: Dear Raphal and Maja, I am dying to learn why/when 'Badhakesh can be blessing for an individual, as Raphael wrote. btw. I read all your posts with interest, I appreciate that you both are honest and open-minded astrol' s best wishes, Anna --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ > wrote: Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Rafal Ji)sohamsa@ .comFriday, July 11, 2008, 1:02 PM Om Gurave NamahNamaste dear Rafal Ji,Okay... let me finally introduce myself: My name is Maja and I have no idea yet what is the art design for front page of "Vedic remedies" by Sanjay Rath, but I am about to find it out till the end of this month when friend of mine is supposed to come back from India with my copy of this book. Nice to meet you too. :)1. You see, that list of "NO" points are what I have learned so far about gemstones, so when you take it in consideration, the only conclusion I can make for now is that there is no suitable gemstone I can prescribe for any Kanya lagna (including myself, and (still only with taking that list in consideration) especially because of Sk in trika bhava). That is the reason why I wrote that I find that list very frustrating. Of course, another reason is that I assumed that there must be deeper story behind those points I wrote, except I haven't got that far yet (I don't have a plan to stop myself here with gemstones, don't worry). I'll trust you on that advice about diamond exactly because I understand that this list is not "the edge of the world" about criteria for choosing. But it is nice to find out at the same time that I can advice diamond to a friend of mine who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is in 9th bhava. If I am o.k. she is going to bloom with diamond. As I understand in her case there is no single reason to avoid it.2. Well I am at the kinder garden level with gemstones. I just play with that a little. (But mantras are still… There I am a new born baby) Right now I am doing everything possible from my position to get closer to elementary school. (Don't take personally following lines, please. It is nothing pointed to you.) "Badhakesh many times is blessing to the native". From the perspective of kinder garden I can give no knowledgably comment on this sentence. By the time I reach that deeper perspective I just hope that I shall not meet with explanation that sounds like "If you focus real hard you can prove hypothesis that elephant can hang over from a cliff with his tail holding to a daisy", because I ran off from Western Astrology exactly because of such things. I would take it real hard to disappoint in Jyotish. That explanation better be very good and reasonable. Regards,MajaHari Om Tat Satsohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> Dear Maja, Namaskar> > 1. Why is it frustrating for Kanya with Shukra in trika? Do you mean it > takes away the viveka to choose a gem as general or its problematic to > choose a gem for you? For your chart its diamond..easy.> > 2. In choosing a gem the planet (gem-karaka) should bless one with the > material / emotional goods. So dusthana, maraka, badhakesh, neelam can > be good depending on a chart - as they can provide goods to the native. > Sri Jagannath Center tries to teach class of astrologers which will rise > above those generalizations like 'dusthana is bad, maraka is bad, > badhakesh is bad' etc..thats kindergarden astrology. Badhakesh many > times is blessing to the native.> > > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal > > > Maja Strbac pisze:> >> > Om Gurave Namah> >> > Namaste dear Rafal ji,> >> > Ohh... so that was the catch! Thank you very much.> >> > It is just that I find following list very frustrating sometimes:> >> > Lord of 2nd & 7th, maraka-NO!> > Lord of 6, 8 & 12th, dustahn-NO!> > Lord of 3rd & 11th, trika-NO!> > Graha in dustahn-NO!> > Graha in trika-NO!> > Badhakesh-NO!> > Blue sapphire-NO!> > Green emerald-NO!> >> > (I also find it very frustrating because I am Kanya lagna with Sukra> > in trika bhava > >> > Regards,> > Maja> >> > Hari Om Tat Sat> >> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40. com>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >> > wrote:> > >> > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > Dear Maja & SS , Namaskar> > >> > > Usually we perscribe gems for kona lords to increase the rise,> > fortune> > > and wealth of native.> > >> > > Here Mangal is unafflicted and wellplaced so it will give effect> > of> > > Lagnesh and not sixth lord.> > >> > > Instead Shani will give effect of sixth lord giving problem to> > pitta and> > > tridoshic problems of genital area/anus (right side) (82-91).> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> / email: rafal@> > >> > >> > > Maja Strbac pisze:> > > >> > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Namaste dear Rafal,> > > >> > > > I don't have to write too much, question is same (down there in> > > > previous email from SS).> > > >> > > > Help us?> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Maja> > > >> > > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > >> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40. com> > > <sohamsa%> > 40. com>,> > > > "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > >> > > > > Please can you advise why Coral will be appropriate even though> > > > Mars> > > > > is 6th lord?> > > > > Is it because it lords 9th from AL?> > > > >> > > > > Many thanx> > > > > SS> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > <sohamsa% 40. com> <sohamsa%> > 40. com>,> > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > > > > Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the gem will> > activate> > > > it.> > > > > > Parivartana means that Diamond will activate Bu in 3 from AL> > > > which> > > > > > afflicts career life and skills of native.> > > > > > 2. Neck influences thinking.> > > > > > 3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet forward in> > > > > kalachakra> > > > > > scheme.> > > > > > 4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak. Badhakesh in> > > > lagna> > > > > is> > > > > > corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga> > > > > > 5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in twelfth. I follow> > > > Sanjayji> > > > > who> > > > > > also looks at lord when bhava is empty.> > > > > > 6. We can do everything if we know what we are doing.> > Planets in> > > > > lagna,> > > > > > fifth and tenth eclipses the others.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> / email: rafal@> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > rajarshi nandy pisze:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I was trying to understand your advise to Mr Sunil. It> > would> > > > be> > > > > great> > > > > > > if you could kindly clarify some points which I could not> > > > > understand.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th lord, due to> > yuti> > > > > causing> > > > > > > exchange of effects?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck? What is its> > > > > significance?> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will give effects> > of> > > > > shani.> > > > > > > Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? But i> > thought> > > > it> > > > > was> > > > > > > for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please tell me the> > exact> > > > > rule.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa badhaka. In> > that> > > > > case> > > > > > > shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to nagraj temple?> > Why> > > > is> > > > > the> > > > > > > Krishna idol donation neeeded?> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks in advance,.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > -Regards> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Rajarshi> > > > > > >> > > > > > > /*> > > > > > > *"This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet*> > > > > > > */> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ >/* wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >> > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones> > > > (Sunil)> > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > > > > > Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM> > > > > > >> > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > > > > > Dear Sunil , Namaskar> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > > > > >> Dear Sunil, Namaskar> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> 1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord which is> > > > > > >> negative, but will also improve the finances and> > > > Chandra..so> > > > > its> > > > > > >> not perfect. Coral has less side-effects here.> > > > > > >> 2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for karma.> > > > > > >> 3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified by AK.> > > > Irs> > > > > also> > > > > > >> in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL.> > > > > > >> 4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial setbacks> > > > > (rasi)> > > > > > >> and then improvement (navamsa).> > > > > > >> 5. Just please try to perform those remedies which I have> > > > > given> > > > > > >> in the last mail.> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the Sarpa> > > > should> > > > > be> > > > > > >> broken and the ninth lord should be lifted - Bhuvanesvari.> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be> > > > remedied> > > > > by> > > > > > >> gift of idol/picture related to Sri Krishna.> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> Regards,> > > > > > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > > > > >> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> Sunil Sharma pisze:> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Dear Rafal ji,> > > > > > >>> Namaskar> > > > > > >>> Thank you very much for your guidance. I like to hear> > > > your> > > > > > >>> comments, not just about me, but even regarding other> > > > > > >>> person/subject> > > > > > >>> Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still> > > > wearing> > > > > a> > > > > > >>> Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring finger.> > > > Should> > > > > that> > > > > > >>> be removed too? Not that I see any visible difference> > > > after> > > > > > >>> wearing it.> > > > > > >>> I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean Coral in> > > > my> > > > > case)> > > > > > >>> in gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions for> > > > this.> > > > > > >>> Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow> > > > Sapphire to> > > > > > >>> boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due to> > > > > Rahu's 9th> > > > > > >>> aspect. Is it appropriate?> > > > > > >>> As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good period> > > > > since> > > > > > >>> the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic gains> > > > > now and> > > > > > >>> then but nothing substantial. I would love to change the> > > > > > >>> situation, if I can, and solicit your advice in this> > > > > regard. If> > > > > > >>> you will be kind enough to please give me a clear idea> > > > what> > > > > I> > > > > > >>> can do.> > > > > > >>> Regards> > > > > > >>> Sunil> > > > > > >>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@> > > > wp.pl>/*> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>> > > > > > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing> > > > Gemstones> > > > > (Sunil)> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > > > > >>> Dear Sunil , Namaskar> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with> > > > rahu in> > > > > > >>> Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna idol/picture to> > > > > > >>> temple/spiritual person.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> You can wear only Coral.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in> > > > > third/ninth> > > > > > >>> - only in dasa of this malefic - instead use right> > > > hand> > > > > with> > > > > > >>> fortune-gem.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana and> > > > > > >>> worship Hanumanji sincerly!> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome> > > > as> > > > > its> > > > > > >>> the strength period (neechavastha) , after initial> > > > > struggle> > > > > > >>> there should be improvement due to exaltation in d9.> > > > > This> > > > > > >>> period works for spirituality a lot due to karakaamsa> > > > > > >>> position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra and> > > > being> > > > > GK> > > > > > >>> it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be> > > > > > >>> strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact> > > > that> > > > > Mo> > > > > > >>> in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H).> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Regards,> > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > > > > >>> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com/ > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/>> > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/ <http://www.rohinaa. com/>>> /> > > > > email:> > > > > > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Sunil Sharma pisze:> > > > > > >>>> Dear Maja,> > > > > > >>>> I fully appreciate your openness about various> > > > > observations> > > > > > >>>> made so far. At least you are better than me when> > > > you> > > > > say> > > > > > >>>> few charts are clear to you. To me all of them look> > > > > confusing.> > > > > > >>>> My birth data is as follows:> > > > > > >>>> DOB: 21st September 1955> > > > > > >>>> TOB: 10:32 A.M.> > > > > > >>>> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)> > > > > > >>>> Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am> > > > not> > > > > in a> > > > > > >>>> hurry.> > > > > > >>>> Regards> > > > > > >>>> Sunil> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08,> > > > majastrbacastro /<majastrbacastro@> > > > > > >>>> > <majastrbaca stro@>/* wrote:> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> <majastrbaca stro@>> > > > > > >>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing> > > > Gemstones> > > > > (Sunil)> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > >>>> Dear Sunil,> > > > > > >>>> Namaste> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> My decision> > > > > > >>>> to wear that gift I received has nothing to do> > > > > with> > > > > > >>>> procedure of determining proper gemstone It> > > > is> > > > > just that I wear> > > > > > >>>> jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find> > > > it> > > > > very entertaining> > > > > > >>>> to learn about gemstones (not just for past two> > > > > days), for past> > > > > > >>>> month or two I had a few dialogues regarding> > > > same> > > > > kind of ring that> > > > > > >>>> you are wearing right now, and it turned out it> > > > is> > > > > not suitable for> > > > > > >>>> me when I was about to buy one. What happened> > > > > yesterday I consider> > > > > > >>>> it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for> > > > > few months. (If I> > > > > > >>>> suddenly disappear from list it will mean that> > > > it> > > > > was a wrong> > > > > > >>>> decision > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would> > > > > like to look at> > > > > > >>>> whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to> > > > > take it just as an> > > > > > >>>> opinion. As I have said on the beginning of> > > > this> > > > > thread I am not> > > > > > >>>> quite skilled with this issue, so have this> > > > > > >>>> in mind (Though it was> > > > > > >>>> not so difficult for me to say that ruby is> > > > proper> > > > > > >>>> gemstone for> > > > > > >>>> Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so> > > > > confusing as they> > > > > > >>>> often could be in various charts. When> > > > positions> > > > > in chart are> > > > > > >>>> complicated I choose to say "I don't know"> > > > rather> > > > > than to ruin> > > > > > >>>> someone's life.)> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> Regards,> > > > > > >>>> Maja> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> , Sunil> > > > > Sharma> > > > > > >>>> <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > Dear Maja,> > > > > > >>>> > I have been reading each and every message on> > > > > this thread and, at> > > > > > >>>> the outset, was surprised to read about> > > > Neeraj's> > > > > observations.> > > > > > >>>> However, things became quite clear later on> > > > > especially with your> > > > > > >>>> comments on antardasha.> > > > > > >>>> > Your very last sentence in your last mail> > > > (even> > > > > though chandra is> > > > > > >>>> not lording my trines) caught my attention.> > > > > Debilitated chandra (in> > > > > > >>>> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my> > > > > chart with exalted> > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka> > > > > > >>>> Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu> > > > conjoining> > > > > moon in> > > > > > >>>> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th> > > > > > >>>> house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY> > > > > > >>>> or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So,> > > > the> > > > > net result is> > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already> > > > > afflicted due to> > > > > > >>>> debilitation) is afflicted. All this is> > > > something> > > > > I have been told> > > > > > >>>> by various astrologers (not necessarily all at> > > > the> > > > > same time).> > > > > > >>>> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and> > > > Diamond> > > > > to me. I am still> > > > > > >>>> wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand> > > > > ring finger> > > > > > >>>> (presently going through Venus dasha), and> > > > Coral> > > > > in gold pendant in> > > > > > >>>> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier> > > > > but changed it to a> > > > > > >>>> pendant and wore it in the neck in a black> > > > string.> > > > > I have since> > > > > > >>>> removed it but I must say that whenever I wear> > > > > Pearl it quietens my> > > > > > >>>> temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any> > > > > improvement in my> > > > > > >>>> career or financial aspects.> > > > > > >>>> > Now, my real question to you is> > > > > > >>>> this. Moon being afflicted and> > > > > > >>>> left hand to be used (for the effect to be> > > > > reduced), I should> > > > > > >>>> have> > > > > > >>>> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You> > > > > may take few days to> > > > > > >>>> reply! I am not in a hurry.> > > > > > >>>> > Regards> > > > > > >>>> > Sunil> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro> > > > > <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > >>>> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...>> > > > > > >>>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing> > > > > Gemstones (Swami)> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > Namaste dear Swami,> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra> > > > > being unfavorable> > > > > > >>>> Graha> > > > > > >>>> > in this chart, those mentioned were the only> > > > one> > > > > I could find (and> > > > > > >>>> > that was after quite some time spent in> > > > serious> > > > > thinking). It is> > > > > > >>>> my> > > > > > >>>> > mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra and> > > > > Maheshvara in Shula> > > > > > >>>> dasa> > > > > > >>>> > somewhere in my> > > > > > >>>> memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I> > > > did> > > > > > >>>> say> > > > > > >>>> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any> > > > > > >>>> significance to wear gemstone> > > > > > >>>> > for it (either to increase or to decrease).> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > So far I was informed about just a few rules> > > > > regarding determining> > > > > > >>>> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I> > > > thought> > > > > that Ketu/Rahu> > > > > > >>>> could> > > > > > >>>> > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th> > > > > from AK or if Rahu> > > > > > >>>> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful> > > > > information about this> > > > > > >>>> > issue.> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue...> > > > I> > > > > received one> > > > > > >>>> > completely unexpected gift today afternoon:> > > > > silver ring with a> > > > > > >>>> pearl> > > > > > >>>> > and matching silver pectoral also decorated> > > > with> > > > > pearls. What is> > > > > > >>>> > this today...? I was never this much involved> > > > in> > > > > any thread so> > > > > > >>>> far.> > > > > > >>>> > WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear it, even> > > > > though Chandra is not> > > > > > >>>> > lording my trines.> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> Regards,> > > > > > >>>> > Maja> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > --- In> > > > > > >>>> , "swami"> > > > <swami@>> > > > > > >>>> wrote:> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > > > > > >>>> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah> > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om,> > > > > > >>>> > > Dear Maja,> > > > > > >>>> > > Your insights are great, incidently I was> > > > > struck at your> > > > > > >>>> mention> > > > > > >>>> > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I> > > > > don't think> > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any> > > > > significance) .> > > > > > >>>> > > I could not understand How sukra is> > > > > maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu> > > > > > >>>> as> > > > > > >>>> > maheswar planet . that also is appears> > > > incorrect.> > > > > > >>>> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu> > > > so> > > > > count to 8 th> > > > > > >>>> would> > > > > > >>>> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads> > > > to> > > > > Leo.> > > > > > >>>> > > The sign lord is SUN.> > > > > > >>>> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN> > > > > becomes Brahma Planet.> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th> > > > and> > > > > 12 th from Sun> > > > > > >>>> the> > > > > > >>>> > maheswar.> > > > > > >>>> > > Eight> > > > > > >>>> lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.> > > > > > >>>> > > We apply parashar strength to determne> > > > > strenth.Ketu and jup are> > > > > > >>>> > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so> > > > as> > > > > per naisargic bal> > > > > > >>>> Jup> > > > > > >>>> > is Maheswar.> > > > > > >>>> > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47> > > > sutra.> > > > > > >>>> > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is> > > > > discussed.> > > > > > >>>> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih> > > > > knowledge .So Gem stone of> > > > > > >>>> > planet that is maheswar if put in left should> > > > > diminish> > > > > > >>>> knowledge.If> > > > > > >>>> > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of> > > > > vedic shahstra.> > > > > > >>>> > > Perhaps native has tried many gems.> > > > > > >>>> > > By the way, influence of wearing planet> > > > > related to maheshwar is> > > > > > >>>> > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i> > > > could> > > > > access, so this> > > > > > >>>> > last suggestion may be taken just a logical> > > > > > >>>> aplication.> > > > > > >>>> > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.> > > > > > >>>> > > with regards.> > > > > > >>>> > > OM TATSAT> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > > ---> > > > > -- ---------> > > > > > >>>> > > Swami_RCS> > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- -> > > > ---> > > > > ----- --------> > > > > > >>>> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious> > > > effulgence> > > > > of that Divine> > > > > > >>>> Being> > > > > > >>>> > who has created the three worlds.May He> > > > Direct> > > > > our understanding. "> > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- -> > > > ---> > > > > ----- --------- --------> > > > > > >>>> --> > > > > > >>>> > -> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> > > -> > > > > > >>>> > > majastrbacastro> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM> > > > > > >>>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing> > > > > Gemstones> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing> > > > > zircon on his left> > > > > > >>>> hand,> > > > > > >>>> > so> > > > > > >>>> > > that means he was weakening his lord of> > > > > > >>>> 10th bhava in 9th...> > > > > > >>>> And> > > > > > >>>> > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd> > > > > bhava (which is> > > > > > >>>> > considered> > > > > > >>>> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also> > > > > maheshvara.. . but I don't> > > > > > >>>> > think> > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any> > > > > significance) .> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> > > I really dislike complicating simple> > > > things,> > > > > but this time I> > > > > > >>>> can> > > > > > >>>> > not> > > > > > >>>> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in> > > > > Dhanu, yet Mithuna is> > > > > > >>>> > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra> > > > and> > > > > Guru in it. That> > > > > > >>>> > means> > > > > > >>>> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his> > > > > Arudha Lagna. 12th> > > > > > >>>> lord> > > > > > >>>> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from> > > > Arudha> > > > > Lagna signifies> > > > > > >>>> > > expenses. He was weakening this one also.> > > > > These are just> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> thoughts...> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> > > Regards,> > > > > > >>>> > > Maja> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> > > --- In> > > > > > >>>> , RKM> > > > > <rajeevmundra@ >> > > > > > >>>> wrote:> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > Dear Neeraj> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in> > > > 9th> > > > > house which is a> > > > > > >>>> > Royal> > > > > > >>>> > > Yoga.> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have> > > > > helped you grow in your> > > > > > >>>> > > career.> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very> > > > > suitable.> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter> > > > and> > > > > Moon. -ve.> > > > > > >>>> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve> > > > > (but ok if malefic> > > > > > >>>> > > debiliated in 12th> > > > > > >>>> > > > house)> > > > > > >>>> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.> > > > > > >>>> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and> > > > just> > > > > out> > > > > > >>>> of 8th house.> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and> > > > relatively> > > > > unafflicted is> > > > > > >>>> > working> > > > > > >>>> > > the> > > > > > >>>> best.> > > > > > >>>> > > > Suns stone would probably give you> > > > better> > > > > health and overall> > > > > > >>>> > luck.> > > > > > >>>> > > > But venus will cause growth in career.> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > --> > > > > > >>>> > > > Ã'Ã...ò Ã'Ã"Ã0/00Ã'Ã"Ã?Ã'Ã"f> > > > > Ã'Ã"´Ã'Ã"Æ'Ã'Ã"²Ã'Ã"¬Ã'Ã"Ã?> > > > > > >>>> > > > RKM> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda> > > > > krsna> > > > > > >>>> <yasodakrsna@ >> > > > > > >>>> > > wrote:> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj,> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of> > > > SJC> > > > > have made error.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Particularly in my case was> > > > recommended> > > > > Coral by one,> > > > > > >>>> Ruby> > > > > > >>>> > by> > > > > > >>>> > > two.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by> > > > > > >>>> recommended quality> > > > > > >>>> > gemologist.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not> > > > by> > > > > internet> > > > > > >>>> questions> > > > > > >>>> > but> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > by paid> > > > > > >>>> > > > > services.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > The good thing was the price of gold> > > > > soared and made good> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> > money> > > > > > >>>> > > by selling> > > > > > >>>> > > > > it.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath> > > > recommendation> > > > > of yellow> > > > > > >>>> sapphire> > > > > > >>>> > as> > > > > > >>>> > > it works.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their> > > > > Devata for the> > > > > > >>>> prediction> > > > > > >>>> > to> > > > > > >>>> > > be true.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Yasoda.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than> > > > > gemstone if sincere> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_> > > > 2000@>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > vedic astrology@ . com;> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM> > > > > > >>>> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru]> > > > > > >>>> Choosing Gemstones> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > It's been more than four years that I> > > > > studied> > > > > > >>>> different> > > > > > >>>> > books on> > > > > > >>>> > > gemstones> > > > > > >>>> > > > > and got advise from different good> > > > > astrologers about the> > > > > > >>>> > > gemstone. But none> > > > > > >>>> > > > > of them gave very good result.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > As of now, some of the following> > > > > theories are present for> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> > > choosing> > > > > > >>>> > > > > gemstone.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord> > > > > > >>>> (recommended by many> > > > > > >>>> astrologers)> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1,> > > > 5,> > > > > and 9) - Anukool> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > However, I recently found that one> > > > > gemstone worked very> > > > > > >>>> well> > > > > > >>>> > for> > > > > > >>>> > > me. After> > > > > > >>>> > > > > wearing that I got a very good> > > > results> > > > > in my career and> > > > > > >>>> also> > > > > > >>>> > my> > > > > > >>>> > > income> > > > > > >>>> > > > > increased by more than 100% in> > > > approx. 4> > > > > months.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not> > > > recommended> > > > > to me by any> > > > > > >>>> > astrologer> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> > > (though I> > > > > > >>>> > > > > consulted several ones in person) and> > > > in> > > > > no such book it> > > > > > >>>> was> > > > > > >>>> > > mentioned that> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > I should choose this gemstone. I read> > > > > approximately 8-10> > > > > > >>>> > books> > > > > > >>>> > > on gem> > > > > > >>>> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I> > > > > was not advised to> > > > > > >>>> > wear> > > > > > >>>> > > this gemstone.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby,> > > > > Yellow Sapphire and> > > > > > >>>> Red> > > > > > >>>> > Coral> > > > > > >>>> > > by> > > > > > >>>> > > > > different astrologers. One even> > > > advised> > > > > blue sapphire,> > > > > > >>>> that> > > > > > >>>> > made> > > > > > >>>> > > matters> > > > > > >>>> > > > > worse.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details> > > > and> > > > > then I will tell> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> > gem> > > > > > >>>> > > stone that> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> > > worked for me.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon> > > > > (Substitute of> > > > > > >>>> Diamond).> > > > > > >>>> > I> > > > > > >>>> > > worn this in> > > > > > >>>> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and> > > > things> > > > > started working> > > > > > >>>> > positive> > > > > > >>>> > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing> > > > > exceptional in> > > > > > >>>> my> > > > > > >>>> > > personal / work> > > > > > >>>> > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be> > > > > noted.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. It's not lord of> > > > > > >>>> trines.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not> > > > running.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Still, it gave me good results.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way> > > > > that may be tried> > > > > > >>>> if> > > > > > >>>> > some> > > > > > >>>> > > one wants> > > > > > >>>> > > > > to try. Please share your results, so> > > > > that we can know> > > > > > >>>> more> > > > > > >>>> > > about this.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in> > > > 1,5,9> > > > > house.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If> > > > > any of the planets> > > > > > >>>> > that> > > > > > >>>> > > were in 1,5,9> > > > > > >>>> > > > > house moves to> > > > > > >>>> some other house, ignore that planet.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines> > > > > (1,5,9) in both natal> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> > chart> > > > > > >>>> > > and> > > > > > >>>> bhava> > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore> > > > rahu,> > > > > ketu)> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found> > > > till> > > > > step 3 is> > > > > > >>>> benefic> > > > > > >>>> > for> > > > > > >>>> > > your> > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose> > > > the> > > > > main gemstone of> > > > > > >>>> > that> > > > > > >>>> > > planet and> > > > > > >>>> > > > > wear it in the right hand.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet> > > > that> > > > > was found in> > > > > > >>>> step> > > > > > >>>> 3> > > > > > >>>> > is> > > > > > >>>> > > malefic,> > > > > > >>>> > > > > then choose the substitute gem for> > > > that> > > > > planet and wear> > > > > > >>>> it> > > > > > >>>> > in> > > > > > >>>> > > the left hand.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > The above was just a thought that came to my> > > > > mind and if> > > > > > >>>> > some> > > > > > >>>> > > one wants to> > > > > > >>>> > > > > try it, they may do so for> > > > experiment.> > > > > Kindly share with> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> > other> > > > > > >>>> > > members, if> > > > > > >>>> > > > > this method works for you.> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Regards,> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> > ~ om tat sat ~> > > > > > >>>> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the> > > > > Achyuta Ashram.> > > > > > >>>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari> > > > > Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> > > > > > >>>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar> > > > > the Great who said> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> that the human> > > > > > >>>> > stomach should not become a graveyard for> > > > > animals.> > > > > > >>>> > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do> > > > > one free chart> > > > > > >>>> reading> > > > > > >>>> > today> > > > > > >>>> Links> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> ~ om tat sat ~> > > > > > >>>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the> > > > > Achyuta Ashram.> > > > > > >>>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari> > > > Mantra 'Hare> > > > > Rama Krishna'> > > > > > >>>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar> > > > the> > > > > Great who said that the human> > > > > > >>>> stomach should not become a graveyard for> > > > animals.> > > > > > >>>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do> > > > one> > > > > free chart reading> > > > > > >>>> today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Anna , Namaskar Please provide your details. 1. What profitable event happened? 2. What challenges? 3. What kind of health issues? You can send me those privately also if you prefer. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal 108ar pisze: Dear Rafal, Thanks for your response- I've seen baadhakesh in 12th /giving it to others, as we learned/ in its`period being very challenging. My bdk. period, of Venus in sixth /mks/ was mostly 'profitable' for me. perid of Sa AD /lord of 7th and 8th/ was bad health-wise, but Sa aspects Ve in rashi. Best wishes, Anna --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Rafal Ji) sohamsa Sunday, July 13, 2008, 6:27 PM kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Anna , Namaskar When badhakesh is unafflicted (benefic/strong/ 12H) then it takes away the obstacles and from that perspective its positive. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com 108ar pisze: Dear Raphal and Maja, I am dying to learn why/when 'Badhakesh can be blessing for an individual, as Raphael wrote. btw. I read all your posts with interest, I appreciate that you both are honest and open-minded astrol' s best wishes, Anna --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ > wrote: Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Rafal Ji) sohamsa@ .com Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:02 PM Om Gurave Namah Namaste dear Rafal Ji, Okay... let me finally introduce myself: My name is Maja and I have no idea yet what is the art design for front page of "Vedic remedies" by Sanjay Rath, but I am about to find it out till the end of this month when friend of mine is supposed to come back from India with my copy of this book. Nice to meet you too. 1. You see, that list of "NO" points are what I have learned so far about gemstones, so when you take it in consideration, the only conclusion I can make for now is that there is no suitable gemstone I can prescribe for any Kanya lagna (including myself, and (still only with taking that list in consideration) especially because of Sk in trika bhava). That is the reason why I wrote that I find that list very frustrating. Of course, another reason is that I assumed that there must be deeper story behind those points I wrote, except I haven't got that far yet (I don't have a plan to stop myself here with gemstones, don't worry). I'll trust you on that advice about diamond exactly because I understand that this list is not "the edge of the world" about criteria for choosing. But it is nice to find out at the same time that I can advice diamond to a friend of mine who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is in 9th bhava. If I am o.k. she is going to bloom with diamond. As I understand in her case there is no single reason to avoid it. 2. Well I am at the kinder garden level with gemstones. I just play with that a little. (But mantras are still… There I am a new born baby) Right now I am doing everything possible from my position to get closer to elementary school. (Don't take personally following lines, please. It is nothing pointed to you.) "Badhakesh many times is blessing to the native". From the perspective of kinder garden I can give no knowledgably comment on this sentence. By the time I reach that deeper perspective I just hope that I shall not meet with explanation that sounds like "If you focus real hard you can prove hypothesis that elephant can hang over from a cliff with his tail holding to a daisy", because I ran off from Western Astrology exactly because of such things. I would take it real hard to disappoint in Jyotish. That explanation better be very good and reasonable. Regards, Maja Hari Om Tat Sat sohamsa@ ..com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > 1. Why is it frustrating for Kanya with Shukra in trika? Do you mean it > takes away the viveka to choose a gem as general or its problematic to > choose a gem for you? For your chart its diamond..easy. > > 2. In choosing a gem the planet (gem-karaka) should bless one with the > material / emotional goods. So dusthana, maraka, badhakesh, neelam can > be good depending on a chart - as they can provide goods to the native. > Sri Jagannath Center tries to teach class of astrologers which will rise > above those generalizations like 'dusthana is bad, maraka is bad, > badhakesh is bad' etc..thats kindergarden astrology. Badhakesh many > times is blessing to the native. > > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal > > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste dear Rafal ji, > > > > Ohh... so that was the catch! Thank you very much. > > > > It is just that I find following list very frustrating sometimes: > > > > Lord of 2nd & 7th, maraka-NO! > > Lord of 6, 8 & 12th, dustahn-NO! > > Lord of 3rd & 11th, trika-NO! > > Graha in dustahn-NO! > > Graha in trika-NO! > > Badhakesh-NO! > > Blue sapphire-NO! > > Green emerald-NO! > > > > (I also find it very frustrating because I am Kanya lagna with Sukra > > in trika bhava > > > > Regards, > > Maja > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > sohamsa@ ..com <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > Dear Maja & SS , Namaskar > > > > > > Usually we perscribe gems for kona lords to increase the rise, > > fortune > > > and wealth of native. > > > > > > Here Mangal is unafflicted and wellplaced so it will give effect > > of > > > Lagnesh and not sixth lord. > > > > > > Instead Shani will give effect of sixth lord giving problem to > > pitta and > > > tridoshic problems of genital area/anus (right side) (82-91). > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > I don't have to write too much, question is same (down there in > > > > previous email from SS). > > > > > > > > Help us? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Maja > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ ..com <sohamsa% 40. com> > > <sohamsa% > > 40. com>, > > > > "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > Please can you advise why Coral will be appropriate even though > > > > Mars > > > > > is 6th lord? > > > > > Is it because it lords 9th from AL? > > > > > > > > > > Many thanx > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ ..com > > <sohamsa% 40. com> <sohamsa% > > 40. com>, > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the gem will > > activate > > > > it. > > > > > > Parivartana means that Diamond will activate Bu in 3 from AL > > > > which > > > > > > afflicts career life and skills of native. > > > > > > 2. Neck influences thinking. > > > > > > 3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet forward in > > > > > kalachakra > > > > > > scheme. > > > > > > 4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak. Badhakesh in > > > > lagna > > > > > is > > > > > > corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga > > > > > > 5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in twelfth. I follow > > > > Sanjayji > > > > > who > > > > > > also looks at lord when bhava is empty. > > > > > > 6. We can do everything if we know what we are doing. > > Planets in > > > > > lagna, > > > > > > fifth and tenth eclipses the others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rajarshi nandy pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was trying to understand your advise to Mr Sunil. It > > would > > > > be > > > > > great > > > > > > > if you could kindly clarify some points which I could not > > > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th lord, due to > > yuti > > > > > causing > > > > > > > exchange of effects? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck? What is its > > > > > significance? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will give effects > > of > > > > > shani. > > > > > > > Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? But i > > thought > > > > it > > > > > was > > > > > > > for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please tell me the > > exact > > > > > rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa badhaka. In > > that > > > > > case > > > > > > > shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to nagraj temple? > > Why > > > > is > > > > > the > > > > > > > Krishna idol donation neeeded? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajarshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /* > > > > > > > *"This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet* > > > > > > > */ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ >/* wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > > > > > Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > >> Dear Sunil, Namaskar > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> 1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord which is > > > > > > >> negative, but will also improve the finances and > > > > Chandra..so > > > > > its > > > > > > >> not perfect. Coral has less side-effects here. > > > > > > >> 2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for karma. > > > > > > >> 3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified by AK. > > > > Irs > > > > > also > > > > > > >> in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL. > > > > > > >> 4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial setbacks > > > > > (rasi) > > > > > > >> and then improvement (navamsa). > > > > > > >> 5. Just please try to perform those remedies which I have > > > > > given > > > > > > >> in the last mail. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the Sarpa > > > > should > > > > > be > > > > > > >> broken and the ninth lord should be lifted - Bhuvanesvari. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be > > > > remedied > > > > > by > > > > > > >> gift of idol/picture related to Sri Krishna. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Regards, > > > > > > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > >> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> Dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > >>> Namaskar > > > > > > >>> Thank you very much for your guidance. I like to hear > > > > your > > > > > > >>> comments, not just about me, but even regarding other > > > > > > >>> person/subject > > > > > > >>> Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still > > > > wearing > > > > > a > > > > > > >>> Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring finger. > > > > Should > > > > > that > > > > > > >>> be removed too? Not that I see any visible difference > > > > after > > > > > > >>> wearing it. > > > > > > >>> I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean Coral in > > > > my > > > > > case) > > > > > > >>> in gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions for > > > > this. > > > > > > >>> Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow > > > > Sapphire to > > > > > > >>> boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due to > > > > > Rahu's 9th > > > > > > >>> aspect. Is it appropriate? > > > > > > >>> As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good period > > > > > since > > > > > > >>> the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic gains > > > > > now and > > > > > > >>> then but nothing substantial. I would love to change the > > > > > > >>> situation, if I can, and solicit your advice in this > > > > > regard. If > > > > > > >>> you will be kind enough to please give me a clear idea > > > > what > > > > > I > > > > > > >>> can do. > > > > > > >>> Regards > > > > > > >>> Sunil > > > > > > >>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ > > > > wp.pl>/* > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > > > > > > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > Gemstones > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > >>> @ . com > > > > > > >>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > >>> Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with > > > > rahu in > > > > > > >>> Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna idol/picture to > > > > > > >>> temple/spiritual person. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> You can wear only Coral. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in > > > > > third/ninth > > > > > > >>> - only in dasa of this malefic - instead use right > > > > hand > > > > > with > > > > > > >>> fortune-gem. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana and > > > > > > >>> worship Hanumanji sincerly! > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome > > > > as > > > > > its > > > > > > >>> the strength period (neechavastha) , after initial > > > > > struggle > > > > > > >>> there should be improvement due to exaltation in d9. > > > > > This > > > > > > >>> period works for spirituality a lot due to karakaamsa > > > > > > >>> position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra and > > > > being > > > > > GK > > > > > > >>> it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be > > > > > > >>> strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact > > > > that > > > > > Mo > > > > > > >>> in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H). > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Regards, > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > >>> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com/ > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/> > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/ <http://www.rohinaa. com/>>> / > > > > > email: > > > > > > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > > > >>>> Dear Maja, > > > > > > >>>> I fully appreciate your openness about various > > > > > observations > > > > > > >>>> made so far. At least you are better than me when > > > > you > > > > > say > > > > > > >>>> few charts are clear to you. To me all of them look > > > > > confusing. > > > > > > >>>> My birth data is as follows: > > > > > > >>>> DOB: 21st September 1955 > > > > > > >>>> TOB: 10:32 A.M. > > > > > > >>>> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27) > > > > > > >>>> Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am > > > > not > > > > > in a > > > > > > >>>> hurry. > > > > > > >>>> Regards > > > > > > >>>> Sunil > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, > > > > majastrbacastro /<majastrbacastro@ > > > > > > >>>> > <majastrbaca stro@>/* wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> <majastrbaca stro@> > > > > > > >>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > Gemstones > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > >>>> @ . com > > > > > > >>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > >>>> Dear Sunil, > > > > > > >>>> Namaste > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> My decision > > > > > > >>>> to wear that gift I received has nothing to do > > > > > with > > > > > > >>>> procedure of determining proper gemstone It > > > > is > > > > > just that I wear > > > > > > >>>> jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find > > > > it > > > > > very entertaining > > > > > > >>>> to learn about gemstones (not just for past two > > > > > days), for past > > > > > > >>>> month or two I had a few dialogues regarding > > > > same > > > > > kind of ring that > > > > > > >>>> you are wearing right now, and it turned out it > > > > is > > > > > not suitable for > > > > > > >>>> me when I was about to buy one. What happened > > > > > yesterday I consider > > > > > > >>>> it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for > > > > > few months. (If I > > > > > > >>>> suddenly disappear from list it will mean that > > > > it > > > > > was a wrong > > > > > > >>>> decision > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would > > > > > like to look at > > > > > > >>>> whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to > > > > > take it just as an > > > > > > >>>> opinion. As I have said on the beginning of > > > > this > > > > > thread I am not > > > > > > >>>> quite skilled with this issue, so have this > > > > > > >>>> in mind (Though it was > > > > > > >>>> not so difficult for me to say that ruby is > > > > proper > > > > > > >>>> gemstone for > > > > > > >>>> Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so > > > > > confusing as they > > > > > > >>>> often could be in various charts. When > > > > positions > > > > > in chart are > > > > > > >>>> complicated I choose to say "I don't know" > > > > rather > > > > > than to ruin > > > > > > >>>> someone's life.) > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > > > >>>> Maja > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> @ . com, Sunil > > > > > Sharma > > > > > > >>>> <sunilsharma21@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > Dear Maja, > > > > > > >>>> > I have been reading each and every message on > > > > > this thread and, at > > > > > > >>>> the outset, was surprised to read about > > > > Neeraj's > > > > > observations. > > > > > > >>>> However, things became quite clear later on > > > > > especially with your > > > > > > >>>> comments on antardasha. > > > > > > >>>> > Your very last sentence in your last mail > > > > (even > > > > > though chandra is > > > > > > >>>> not lording my trines) caught my attention. > > > > > Debilitated chandra (in > > > > > > >>>> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my > > > > > chart with exalted > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka > > > > > > >>>> Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu > > > > conjoining > > > > > moon in > > > > > > >>>> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th > > > > > > >>>> house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY > > > > > > >>>> or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, > > > > the > > > > > net result is > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already > > > > > afflicted due to > > > > > > >>>> debilitation) is afflicted. All this is > > > > something > > > > > I have been told > > > > > > >>>> by various astrologers (not necessarily all at > > > > the > > > > > same time). > > > > > > >>>> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and > > > > Diamond > > > > > to me. I am still > > > > > > >>>> wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand > > > > > ring finger > > > > > > >>>> (presently going through Venus dasha), and > > > > Coral > > > > > in gold pendant in > > > > > > >>>> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier > > > > > but changed it to a > > > > > > >>>> pendant and wore it in the neck in a black > > > > string. > > > > > I have since > > > > > > >>>> removed it but I must say that whenever I wear > > > > > Pearl it quietens my > > > > > > >>>> temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any > > > > > improvement in my > > > > > > >>>> career or financial aspects. > > > > > > >>>> > Now, my real question to you is > > > > > > >>>> this. Moon being afflicted and > > > > > > >>>> left hand to be used (for the effect to be > > > > > reduced), I should > > > > > > >>>> have > > > > > > >>>> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You > > > > > may take few days to > > > > > > >>>> reply! I am not in a hurry. > > > > > > >>>> > Regards > > > > > > >>>> > Sunil > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro > > > > > <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> > > > > > > >>>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > Gemstones (Swami) > > > > > > >>>> > @ . com > > > > > > >>>> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > Namaste dear Swami, > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra > > > > > being unfavorable > > > > > > >>>> Graha > > > > > > >>>> > in this chart, those mentioned were the only > > > > one > > > > > I could find (and > > > > > > >>>> > that was after quite some time spent in > > > > serious > > > > > thinking). It is > > > > > > >>>> my > > > > > > >>>> > mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra and > > > > > Maheshvara in Shula > > > > > > >>>> dasa > > > > > > >>>> > somewhere in my > > > > > > >>>> memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I > > > > did > > > > > > >>>> say > > > > > > >>>> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any > > > > > > >>>> significance to wear gemstone > > > > > > >>>> > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > So far I was informed about just a few rules > > > > > regarding determining > > > > > > >>>> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I > > > > thought > > > > > that Ketu/Rahu > > > > > > >>>> could > > > > > > >>>> > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th > > > > > from AK or if Rahu > > > > > > >>>> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful > > > > > information about this > > > > > > >>>> > issue. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... > > > > I > > > > > received one > > > > > > >>>> > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: > > > > > silver ring with a > > > > > > >>>> pearl > > > > > > >>>> > and matching silver pectoral also decorated > > > > with > > > > > pearls. What is > > > > > > >>>> > this today...? I was never this much involved > > > > in > > > > > any thread so > > > > > > >>>> far. > > > > > > >>>> > WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear it, even > > > > > though Chandra is not > > > > > > >>>> > lording my trines. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > > > >>>> > Maja > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > --- In > > > > > > >>>> @ . com, "swami" > > > > <swami@> > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > >>>> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om, > > > > > > >>>> > > Dear Maja, > > > > > > >>>> > > Your insights are great, incidently I was > > > > > struck at your > > > > > > >>>> mention > > > > > > >>>> > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I > > > > > don't think > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > > > significance) . > > > > > > >>>> > > I could not understand How sukra is > > > > > maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu > > > > > > >>>> as > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar planet . that also is appears > > > > incorrect. > > > > > > >>>> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu > > > > so > > > > > count to 8 th > > > > > > >>>> would > > > > > > >>>> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads > > > > to > > > > > Leo. > > > > > > >>>> > > The sign lord is SUN. > > > > > > >>>> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN > > > > > becomes Brahma Planet. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th > > > > and > > > > > 12 th from Sun > > > > > > >>>> the > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar. > > > > > > >>>> > > Eight > > > > > > >>>> lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup. > > > > > > >>>> > > We apply parashar strength to determne > > > > > strenth.Ketu and jup are > > > > > > >>>> > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so > > > > as > > > > > per naisargic bal > > > > > > >>>> Jup > > > > > > >>>> > is Maheswar. > > > > > > >>>> > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 > > > > sutra. > > > > > > >>>> > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is > > > > > discussed. > > > > > > >>>> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih > > > > > knowledge .So Gem stone of > > > > > > >>>> > planet that is maheswar if put in left should > > > > > diminish > > > > > > >>>> knowledge.If > > > > > > >>>> > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of > > > > > vedic shahstra. > > > > > > >>>> > > Perhaps native has tried many gems. > > > > > > >>>> > > By the way, influence of wearing planet > > > > > related to maheshwar is > > > > > > >>>> > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i > > > > could > > > > > access, so this > > > > > > >>>> > last suggestion may be taken just a logical > > > > > > >>>> aplication. > > > > > > >>>> > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment. > > > > > > >>>> > > with regards. > > > > > > >>>> > > OM TATSAT > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > --- > > > > > -- --------- > > > > > > >>>> > > Swami_RCS > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > > > --- > > > > > ----- -------- > > > > > > >>>> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious > > > > effulgence > > > > > of that Divine > > > > > > >>>> Being > > > > > > >>>> > who has created the three worlds.May He > > > > Direct > > > > > our understanding. " > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > > > --- > > > > > ----- --------- -------- > > > > > > >>>> -- > > > > > > >>>> > - > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > >>>> > > majastrbacastro > > > > > > >>>> > > To: > > > > > > >>>> > > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM > > > > > > >>>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > Gemstones > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?), > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing > > > > > zircon on his left > > > > > > >>>> hand, > > > > > > >>>> > so > > > > > > >>>> > > that means he was weakening his lord of > > > > > > >>>> 10th bhava in 9th... > > > > > > >>>> And > > > > > > >>>> > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd > > > > > bhava (which is > > > > > > >>>> > considered > > > > > > >>>> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also > > > > > maheshvara.. . but I don't > > > > > > >>>> > think > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > > > significance) . > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I really dislike complicating simple > > > > things, > > > > > but this time I > > > > > > >>>> can > > > > > > >>>> > not > > > > > > >>>> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in > > > > > Dhanu, yet Mithuna is > > > > > > >>>> > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra > > > > and > > > > > Guru in it. That > > > > > > >>>> > means > > > > > > >>>> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his > > > > > Arudha Lagna. 12th > > > > > > >>>> lord > > > > > > >>>> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from > > > > Arudha > > > > > Lagna signifies > > > > > > >>>> > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. > > > > > These are just > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> thoughts... > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Regards, > > > > > > >>>> > > Maja > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > --- In > > > > > > >>>> @ . com, RKM > > > > > <rajeevmundra@ > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Dear Neeraj > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in > > > > 9th > > > > > house which is a > > > > > > >>>> > Royal > > > > > > >>>> > > Yoga. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have > > > > > helped you grow in your > > > > > > >>>> > > career. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very > > > > > suitable. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter > > > > and > > > > > Moon. -ve. > > > > > > >>>> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve > > > > > (but ok if malefic > > > > > > >>>> > > debiliated in 12th > > > > > > >>>> > > > house) > > > > > > >>>> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve. > > > > > > >>>> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and > > > > just > > > > > out > > > > > > >>>> of 8th house. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and > > > > relatively > > > > > unafflicted is > > > > > > >>>> > working > > > > > > >>>> > > the > > > > > > >>>> best. > > > > > > >>>> > > > Suns stone would probably give you > > > > better > > > > > health and overall > > > > > > >>>> > luck. > > > > > > >>>> > > > But venus will cause growth in career. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > -- > > > > > > >>>> > > > Ã'Ã...ò Ã'Ã"Ã0/00Ã'Ã"Ã?Ã'Ã"f > > > > > Ã'Ã"´Ã'Ã"Æ'Ã'Ã"²Ã'Ã"¬Ã'Ã"Ã? > > > > > > >>>> > > > RKM > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda > > > > > krsna > > > > > > >>>> <yasodakrsna@ > > > > > > > >>>> > > wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj, > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of > > > > SJC > > > > > have made error. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Particularly in my case was > > > > recommended > > > > > Coral by one, > > > > > > >>>> Ruby > > > > > > >>>> > by > > > > > > >>>> > > two. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by > > > > > > >>>> recommended quality > > > > > > >>>> > gemologist. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not > > > > by > > > > > internet > > > > > > >>>> questions > > > > > > >>>> > but > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > by paid > > > > > > >>>> > > > > services. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The good thing was the price of gold > > > > > soared and made good > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > money > > > > > > >>>> > > by selling > > > > > > >>>> > > > > it. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath > > > > recommendation > > > > > of yellow > > > > > > >>>> sapphire > > > > > > >>>> > as > > > > > > >>>> > > it works. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their > > > > > Devata for the > > > > > > >>>> prediction > > > > > > >>>> > to > > > > > > >>>> > > be true. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Yasoda. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than > > > > > gemstone if sincere > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ > > > > 2000@> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > To: vedic astrology; > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > @ . com > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM > > > > > > >>>> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > >>>> Choosing Gemstones > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > It's been more than four years that I > > > > > studied > > > > > > >>>> different > > > > > > >>>> > books on > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstones > > > > > > >>>> > > > > and got advise from different good > > > > > astrologers about the > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstone. But none > > > > > > >>>> > > > > of them gave very good result. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > As of now, some of the following > > > > > theories are present for > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > choosing > > > > > > >>>> > > > > gemstone. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord > > > > > > >>>> (recommended by many > > > > > > >>>> astrologers) > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, > > > > 5, > > > > > and 9) - Anukool > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool) > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > However, I recently found that one > > > > > gemstone worked very > > > > > > >>>> well > > > > > > >>>> > for > > > > > > >>>> > > me. After > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wearing that I got a very good > > > > results > > > > > in my career and > > > > > > >>>> also > > > > > > >>>> > my > > > > > > >>>> > > income > > > > > > >>>> > > > > increased by more than 100% in > > > > approx. 4 > > > > > months. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not > > > > recommended > > > > > to me by any > > > > > > >>>> > astrologer > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > (though I > > > > > > >>>> > > > > consulted several ones in person) and > > > > in > > > > > no such book it > > > > > > >>>> was > > > > > > >>>> > > mentioned that > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > I should choose this gemstone. I read > > > > > approximately 8-10 > > > > > > >>>> > books > > > > > > >>>> > > on gem > > > > > > >>>> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I > > > > > was not advised to > > > > > > >>>> > wear > > > > > > >>>> > > this gemstone. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, > > > > > Yellow Sapphire and > > > > > > >>>> Red > > > > > > >>>> > Coral > > > > > > >>>> > > by > > > > > > >>>> > > > > different astrologers. One even > > > > advised > > > > > blue sapphire, > > > > > > >>>> that > > > > > > >>>> > made > > > > > > >>>> > > matters > > > > > > >>>> > > > > worse. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details > > > > and > > > > > then I will tell > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > gem > > > > > > >>>> > > stone that > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > worked for me. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978 > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA) > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon > > > > > (Substitute of > > > > > > >>>> Diamond). > > > > > > >>>> > I > > > > > > >>>> > > worn this in > > > > > > >>>> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and > > > > things > > > > > started working > > > > > > >>>> > positive > > > > > > >>>> > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing > > > > > exceptional in > > > > > > >>>> my > > > > > > >>>> > > personal / work > > > > > > >>>> > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be > > > > > noted. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. It's not lord of > > > > > > >>>> trines. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not > > > > running. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Still, it gave me good results. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way > > > > > that may be tried > > > > > > >>>> if > > > > > > >>>> > some > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants > > > > > > >>>> > > > > to try. Please share your results, so > > > > > that we can know > > > > > > >>>> more > > > > > > >>>> > > about this. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in > > > > 1,5,9 > > > > > house. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If > > > > > any of the planets > > > > > > >>>> > that > > > > > > >>>> > > were in 1,5,9 > > > > > > >>>> > > > > house moves to > > > > > > >>>> some other house, ignore that planet. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines > > > > > (1,5,9) in both natal > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > chart > > > > > > >>>> > > and > > > > > > >>>> bhava > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore > > > > rahu, > > > > > ketu) > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found > > > > till > > > > > step 3 is > > > > > > >>>> benefic > > > > > > >>>> > for > > > > > > >>>> > > your > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose > > > > the > > > > > main gemstone of > > > > > > >>>> > that > > > > > > >>>> > > planet and > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wear it in the right hand. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet > > > > that > > > > > was found in > > > > > > >>>> step > > > > > > >>>> 3 > > > > > > >>>> > is > > > > > > >>>> > > malefic, > > > > > > >>>> > > > > then choose the substitute gem for > > > > that > > > > > planet and wear > > > > > > >>>> it > > > > > > >>>> > in > > > > > > >>>> > > the left hand. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > The above was just a thought that came to my > > > > > mind and if > > > > > > >>>> > some > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants to > > > > > > >>>> > > > > try it, they may do so for > > > > experiment. > > > > > Kindly share with > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > other > > > > > > >>>> > > members, if > > > > > > >>>> > > > > this method works for you. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Regards, > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > > > >>>> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > > > >>>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > > > > Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > > > > >>>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > > > > the Great who said > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> that the human > > > > > > >>>> > stomach should not become a graveyard for > > > > > animals. > > > > > > >>>> > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > > > > one free chart > > > > > > >>>> reading > > > > > > >>>> > today > > > > > > >>>> Links > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > > > >>>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > > > >>>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > > > Mantra 'Hare > > > > > Rama Krishna' > > > > > > >>>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > > > the > > > > > Great who said that the human > > > > > > >>>> stomach should not become a graveyard for > > > > animals. > > > > > > >>>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > > > one > > > > > free chart reading > > > > > > >>>> today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Dear Rafal, In that case should a gemstone for such a badhakesh be advisable - given that other conditions in the chart allow? Mant thanx SS. > --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Rafal Ji) > sohamsa > Sunday, July 13, 2008, 6:27 PM kleem namah narasimhaaya > Dear Anna , Namaskar > > When badhakesh is unafflicted (benefic/strong/ 12H) then it takes away the obstacles and from that perspective its positive. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > 108ar pisze: > > Dear Raphal and Maja, > I am dying to learn why/when 'Badhakesh can be blessing for an individual, as Raphael wrote. > btw. I read all your posts with interest, I appreciate that you both are honest and open-minded astrol' s > best wishes, > Anna > > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ > wrote: > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Rafal Ji) > sohamsa@ .com > Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:02 PM > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste dear Rafal Ji, > > Okay... let me finally introduce myself: My name is Maja and I have > no idea yet what is the art design for front page of " Vedic > remedies " by Sanjay Rath, but I am about to find it out till the end > of this month when friend of mine is supposed to come back from > India with my copy of this book. Nice to meet you too. > > 1. You see, that list of " NO " points are what I have learned so far > about gemstones, so when you take it in consideration, the only > conclusion I can make for now is that there is no suitable gemstone > I can prescribe for any Kanya lagna (including myself, and (still > only with taking that list in consideration) especially because of > Sk in trika bhava). That is the reason why I wrote that I find that > list very frustrating. Of course, another reason is that I assumed > that there must be deeper story behind those points I wrote, except > I haven't got that far yet (I don't have a plan to stop myself here > with gemstones, don't worry). I'll trust you on that advice about > diamond exactly because I understand that this list is not " the edge > of the world " about criteria for choosing. But it is nice to find > out at the same time that I can advice diamond to a friend of mine > who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is in 9th bhava. If I am o.k. she > is going to bloom with diamond. As I understand in her case there is > no single reason to avoid it. > > 2. Well I am at the kinder garden level with gemstones. I just play > with that a little. (But mantras are still… There I am a new born > baby) Right now I am doing everything possible from my position to > get closer to elementary school. (Don't take personally following > lines, please. It is nothing pointed to you.) " Badhakesh many times > is blessing to the native " . From the perspective of kinder garden I > can give no knowledgably comment on this sentence. By the time I > reach that deeper perspective I just hope that I shall not meet with > explanation that sounds like " If you focus real hard you can prove > hypothesis that elephant can hang over from a cliff with his tail > holding to a daisy " , because I ran off from Western Astrology > exactly because of such things. I would take it real hard to > disappoint in Jyotish. That explanation better be very good and > reasonable. > > Regards, > Maja > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > wrote: > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > > > 1. Why is it frustrating for Kanya with Shukra in trika? Do you > mean it > > takes away the viveka to choose a gem as general or its > problematic to > > choose a gem for you? For your chart its diamond..easy. > > > > 2. In choosing a gem the planet (gem-karaka) should bless one with > the > > material / emotional goods. So dusthana, maraka, badhakesh, neelam > can > > be good depending on a chart - as they can provide goods to the > native. > > Sri Jagannath Center tries to teach class of astrologers which > will rise > > above those generalizations like 'dusthana is bad, maraka is bad, > > badhakesh is bad' etc..thats kindergarden astrology. Badhakesh > many > > times is blessing to the native. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > Ohh... so that was the catch! Thank you very much. > > > > > > It is just that I find following list very frustrating sometimes: > > > > > > Lord of 2nd & 7th, maraka-NO! > > > Lord of 6, 8 & 12th, dustahn-NO! > > > Lord of 3rd & 11th, trika-NO! > > > Graha in dustahn-NO! > > > Graha in trika-NO! > > > Badhakesh-NO! > > > Blue sapphire-NO! > > > Green emerald-NO! > > > > > > (I also find it very frustrating because I am Kanya lagna with > Sukra > > > in trika bhava > > > > > > Regards, > > > Maja > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > 40. com>, > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > Dear Maja & SS , Namaskar > > > > > > > > Usually we perscribe gems for kona lords to increase the rise, > > > fortune > > > > and wealth of native. > > > > > > > > Here Mangal is unafflicted and wellplaced so it will give > effect > > > of > > > > Lagnesh and not sixth lord. > > > > > > > > Instead Shani will give effect of sixth lord giving problem to > > > pitta and > > > > tridoshic problems of genital area/anus (right side) (82-91). > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > I don't have to write too much, question is same (down there > in > > > > > previous email from SS). > > > > > > > > > > Help us? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Maja > > > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > 40. com> > > > <sohamsa% > > > 40. com>, > > > > > " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please can you advise why Coral will be appropriate even > though > > > > > Mars > > > > > > is 6th lord? > > > > > > Is it because it lords 9th from AL? > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanx > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > <sohamsa% 40. com> <sohamsa% > > > 40. com>, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the gem will > > > activate > > > > > it. > > > > > > > Parivartana means that Diamond will activate Bu in 3 > from AL > > > > > which > > > > > > > afflicts career life and skills of native. > > > > > > > 2. Neck influences thinking. > > > > > > > 3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet > forward in > > > > > > kalachakra > > > > > > > scheme. > > > > > > > 4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak. Badhakesh > in > > > > > lagna > > > > > > is > > > > > > > corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga > > > > > > > 5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in twelfth. I > follow > > > > > Sanjayji > > > > > > who > > > > > > > also looks at lord when bhava is empty. > > > > > > > 6. We can do everything if we know what we are doing. > > > Planets in > > > > > > lagna, > > > > > > > fifth and tenth eclipses the others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rajarshi nandy pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was trying to understand your advise to Mr Sunil. It > > > would > > > > > be > > > > > > great > > > > > > > > if you could kindly clarify some points which I could > not > > > > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th lord, due > to > > > yuti > > > > > > causing > > > > > > > > exchange of effects? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck? What > is its > > > > > > significance? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will give > effects > > > of > > > > > > shani. > > > > > > > > Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? But i > > > thought > > > > > it > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please tell me > the > > > exact > > > > > > rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa badhaka. > In > > > that > > > > > > case > > > > > > > > shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to nagraj > temple? > > > Why > > > > > is > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Krishna idol donation neeeded? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajarshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /* > > > > > > > > * " This above all: to thine own self be true! " - Hamlet* > > > > > > > > */ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ >/* > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > > > > > > Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > >> Dear Sunil, Namaskar > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> 1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord > which is > > > > > > > >> negative, but will also improve the finances and > > > > > Chandra..so > > > > > > its > > > > > > > >> not perfect. Coral has less side-effects here. > > > > > > > >> 2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for karma. > > > > > > > >> 3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified by > AK. > > > > > Irs > > > > > > also > > > > > > > >> in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL. > > > > > > > >> 4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial > setbacks > > > > > > (rasi) > > > > > > > >> and then improvement (navamsa). > > > > > > > >> 5. Just please try to perform those remedies which I > have > > > > > > given > > > > > > > >> in the last mail. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the Sarpa > > > > > should > > > > > > be > > > > > > > >> broken and the ninth lord should be lifted - > Bhuvanesvari. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be > > > > > remedied > > > > > > by > > > > > > > >> gift of idol/picture related to Sri Krishna. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Regards, > > > > > > > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > >> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>> Dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > > >>> Namaskar > > > > > > > >>> Thank you very much for your guidance. I like to hear > > > > > your > > > > > > > >>> comments, not just about me, but even regarding other > > > > > > > >>> person/subject > > > > > > > >>> Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still > > > > > wearing > > > > > > a > > > > > > > >>> Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring finger. > > > > > Should > > > > > > that > > > > > > > >>> be removed too? Not that I see any visible difference > > > > > after > > > > > > > >>> wearing it. > > > > > > > >>> I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean Coral > in > > > > > my > > > > > > case) > > > > > > > >>> in gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions for > > > > > this. > > > > > > > >>> Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow > > > > > Sapphire to > > > > > > > >>> boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due to > > > > > > Rahu's 9th > > > > > > > >>> aspect. Is it appropriate? > > > > > > > >>> As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good > period > > > > > > since > > > > > > > >>> the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic > gains > > > > > > now and > > > > > > > >>> then but nothing substantial. I would love to change > the > > > > > > > >>> situation, if I can, and solicit your advice in this > > > > > > regard. If > > > > > > > >>> you will be kind enough to please give me a clear > idea > > > > > what > > > > > > I > > > > > > > >>> can do. > > > > > > > >>> Regards > > > > > > > >>> Sunil > > > > > > > >>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ > > > > > wp.pl>/* > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > > > > > > > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > Gemstones > > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > >>> Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with > > > > > rahu in > > > > > > > >>> Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna idol/picture to > > > > > > > >>> temple/spiritual person. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> You can wear only Coral. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in > > > > > > third/ninth > > > > > > > >>> - only in dasa of this malefic - instead use right > > > > > hand > > > > > > with > > > > > > > >>> fortune-gem. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana and > > > > > > > >>> worship Hanumanji sincerly! > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome > > > > > as > > > > > > its > > > > > > > >>> the strength period (neechavastha) , after initial > > > > > > struggle > > > > > > > >>> there should be improvement due to exaltation in d9. > > > > > > This > > > > > > > >>> period works for spirituality a lot due to karakaamsa > > > > > > > >>> position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra and > > > > > being > > > > > > GK > > > > > > > >>> it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be > > > > > > > >>> strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact > > > > > that > > > > > > Mo > > > > > > > >>> in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H). > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Regards, > > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > >>> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com/ > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/> > > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/ <http://www.rohinaa. com/>>> / > > > > > > email: > > > > > > > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > > > > >>>> Dear Maja, > > > > > > > >>>> I fully appreciate your openness about various > > > > > > observations > > > > > > > >>>> made so far. At least you are better than me when > > > > > you > > > > > > say > > > > > > > >>>> few charts are clear to you. To me all of them look > > > > > > confusing. > > > > > > > >>>> My birth data is as follows: > > > > > > > >>>> DOB: 21st September 1955 > > > > > > > >>>> TOB: 10:32 A.M. > > > > > > > >>>> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27) > > > > > > > >>>> Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am > > > > > not > > > > > > in a > > > > > > > >>>> hurry. > > > > > > > >>>> Regards > > > > > > > >>>> Sunil > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, > > > > > majastrbacastro /<majastrbacastro@ > > > > > > > >>>> > <majastrbaca stro@>/* wrote: > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> <majastrbaca stro@> > > > > > > > >>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > Gemstones > > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > >>>> Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > >>>> Namaste > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> My decision > > > > > > > >>>> to wear that gift I received has nothing to do > > > > > > with > > > > > > > >>>> procedure of determining proper gemstone It > > > > > is > > > > > > just that I wear > > > > > > > >>>> jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find > > > > > it > > > > > > very entertaining > > > > > > > >>>> to learn about gemstones (not just for past two > > > > > > days), for past > > > > > > > >>>> month or two I had a few dialogues regarding > > > > > same > > > > > > kind of ring that > > > > > > > >>>> you are wearing right now, and it turned out it > > > > > is > > > > > > not suitable for > > > > > > > >>>> me when I was about to buy one. What happened > > > > > > yesterday I consider > > > > > > > >>>> it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for > > > > > > few months. (If I > > > > > > > >>>> suddenly disappear from list it will mean that > > > > > it > > > > > > was a wrong > > > > > > > >>>> decision > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would > > > > > > like to look at > > > > > > > >>>> whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to > > > > > > take it just as an > > > > > > > >>>> opinion. As I have said on the beginning of > > > > > this > > > > > > thread I am not > > > > > > > >>>> quite skilled with this issue, so have this > > > > > > > >>>> in mind (Though it was > > > > > > > >>>> not so difficult for me to say that ruby is > > > > > proper > > > > > > > >>>> gemstone for > > > > > > > >>>> Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so > > > > > > confusing as they > > > > > > > >>>> often could be in various charts. When > > > > > positions > > > > > > in chart are > > > > > > > >>>> complicated I choose to say " I don't know " > > > > > rather > > > > > > than to ruin > > > > > > > >>>> someone's life.) > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > > > > >>>> Maja > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> , Sunil > > > > > > Sharma > > > > > > > >>>> <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Dear Maja, > > > > > > > >>>> > I have been reading each and every message on > > > > > > this thread and, at > > > > > > > >>>> the outset, was surprised to read about > > > > > Neeraj's > > > > > > observations. > > > > > > > >>>> However, things became quite clear later on > > > > > > especially with your > > > > > > > >>>> comments on antardasha. > > > > > > > >>>> > Your very last sentence in your last mail > > > > > (even > > > > > > though chandra is > > > > > > > >>>> not lording my trines) caught my attention. > > > > > > Debilitated chandra (in > > > > > > > >>>> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my > > > > > > chart with exalted > > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka > > > > > > > >>>> Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu > > > > > conjoining > > > > > > moon in > > > > > > > >>>> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th > > > > > > > >>>> house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY > > > > > > > >>>> or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, > > > > > the > > > > > > net result is > > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already > > > > > > afflicted due to > > > > > > > >>>> debilitation) is afflicted. All this is > > > > > something > > > > > > I have been told > > > > > > > >>>> by various astrologers (not necessarily all at > > > > > the > > > > > > same time). > > > > > > > >>>> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and > > > > > Diamond > > > > > > to me. I am still > > > > > > > >>>> wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand > > > > > > ring finger > > > > > > > >>>> (presently going through Venus dasha), and > > > > > Coral > > > > > > in gold pendant in > > > > > > > >>>> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier > > > > > > but changed it to a > > > > > > > >>>> pendant and wore it in the neck in a black > > > > > string. > > > > > > I have since > > > > > > > >>>> removed it but I must say that whenever I wear > > > > > > Pearl it quietens my > > > > > > > >>>> temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any > > > > > > improvement in my > > > > > > > >>>> career or financial aspects. > > > > > > > >>>> > Now, my real question to you is > > > > > > > >>>> this. Moon being afflicted and > > > > > > > >>>> left hand to be used (for the effect to be > > > > > > reduced), I should > > > > > > > >>>> have > > > > > > > >>>> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You > > > > > > may take few days to > > > > > > > >>>> reply! I am not in a hurry. > > > > > > > >>>> > Regards > > > > > > > >>>> > Sunil > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro > > > > > > <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> > > > > > > > >>>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > > Gemstones (Swami) > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Namaste dear Swami, > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra > > > > > > being unfavorable > > > > > > > >>>> Graha > > > > > > > >>>> > in this chart, those mentioned were the only > > > > > one > > > > > > I could find (and > > > > > > > >>>> > that was after quite some time spent in > > > > > serious > > > > > > thinking). It is > > > > > > > >>>> my > > > > > > > >>>> > mistake to " equalize " effects of Rudra and > > > > > > Maheshvara in Shula > > > > > > > >>>> dasa > > > > > > > >>>> > somewhere in my > > > > > > > >>>> memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I > > > > > did > > > > > > > >>>> say > > > > > > > >>>> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any > > > > > > > >>>> significance to wear gemstone > > > > > > > >>>> > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > So far I was informed about just a few rules > > > > > > regarding determining > > > > > > > >>>> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I > > > > > thought > > > > > > that Ketu/Rahu > > > > > > > >>>> could > > > > > > > >>>> > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th > > > > > > from AK or if Rahu > > > > > > > >>>> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful > > > > > > information about this > > > > > > > >>>> > issue. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... > > > > > I > > > > > > received one > > > > > > > >>>> > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: > > > > > > silver ring with a > > > > > > > >>>> pearl > > > > > > > >>>> > and matching silver pectoral also decorated > > > > > with > > > > > > pearls. What is > > > > > > > >>>> > this today...? I was never this much involved > > > > > in > > > > > > any thread so > > > > > > > >>>> far. > > > > > > > >>>> > WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear it, even > > > > > > though Chandra is not > > > > > > > >>>> > lording my trines. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > > > > >>>> > Maja > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > --- In > > > > > > > >>>> , " swami " > > > > > <swami@> > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om, > > > > > > > >>>> > > Dear Maja, > > > > > > > >>>> > > Your insights are great, incidently I was > > > > > > struck at your > > > > > > > >>>> mention > > > > > > > >>>> > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I > > > > > > don't think > > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > > > > significance) . > > > > > > > >>>> > > I could not understand How sukra is > > > > > > maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu > > > > > > > >>>> as > > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar planet . that also is appears > > > > > incorrect. > > > > > > > >>>> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu > > > > > so > > > > > > count to 8 th > > > > > > > >>>> would > > > > > > > >>>> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads > > > > > to > > > > > > Leo. > > > > > > > >>>> > > The sign lord is SUN. > > > > > > > >>>> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN > > > > > > becomes Brahma Planet. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th > > > > > and > > > > > > 12 th from Sun > > > > > > > >>>> the > > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar. > > > > > > > >>>> > > Eight > > > > > > > >>>> lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup. > > > > > > > >>>> > > We apply parashar strength to determne > > > > > > strenth.Ketu and jup are > > > > > > > >>>> > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so > > > > > as > > > > > > per naisargic bal > > > > > > > >>>> Jup > > > > > > > >>>> > is Maheswar. > > > > > > > >>>> > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 > > > > > sutra. > > > > > > > >>>> > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is > > > > > > discussed. > > > > > > > >>>> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih > > > > > > knowledge .So Gem stone of > > > > > > > >>>> > planet that is maheswar if put in left should > > > > > > diminish > > > > > > > >>>> knowledge.If > > > > > > > >>>> > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of > > > > > > vedic shahstra. > > > > > > > >>>> > > Perhaps native has tried many gems. > > > > > > > >>>> > > By the way, influence of wearing planet > > > > > > related to maheshwar is > > > > > > > >>>> > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i > > > > > could > > > > > > access, so this > > > > > > > >>>> > last suggestion may be taken just a logical > > > > > > > >>>> aplication. > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment. > > > > > > > >>>> > > with regards. > > > > > > > >>>> > > OM TATSAT > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > > --- > > > > > > -- --------- > > > > > > > >>>> > > Swami_RCS > > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > --- > > > > > > ----- -------- > > > > > > > >>>> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious > > > > > effulgence > > > > > > of that Divine > > > > > > > >>>> Being > > > > > > > >>>> > who has created the three worlds.May He > > > > > Direct > > > > > > our understanding. " > > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > --- > > > > > > ----- --------- -------- > > > > > > > >>>> -- > > > > > > > >>>> > - > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > - > > > > > > > >>>> > > majastrbacastro > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM > > > > > > > >>>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > > Gemstones > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?), > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing > > > > > > zircon on his left > > > > > > > >>>> hand, > > > > > > > >>>> > so > > > > > > > >>>> > > that means he was weakening his lord of > > > > > > > >>>> 10th bhava in 9th... > > > > > > > >>>> And > > > > > > > >>>> > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd > > > > > > bhava (which is > > > > > > > >>>> > considered > > > > > > > >>>> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also > > > > > > maheshvara.. . but I don't > > > > > > > >>>> > think > > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > > > > significance) . > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I really dislike complicating simple > > > > > things, > > > > > > but this time I > > > > > > > >>>> can > > > > > > > >>>> > not > > > > > > > >>>> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in > > > > > > Dhanu, yet Mithuna is > > > > > > > >>>> > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra > > > > > and > > > > > > Guru in it. That > > > > > > > >>>> > means > > > > > > > >>>> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his > > > > > > Arudha Lagna. 12th > > > > > > > >>>> lord > > > > > > > >>>> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from > > > > > Arudha > > > > > > Lagna signifies > > > > > > > >>>> > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. > > > > > > These are just > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> thoughts... > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Regards, > > > > > > > >>>> > > Maja > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > --- In > > > > > > > >>>> , RKM > > > > > > <rajeevmundra@ > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Dear Neeraj > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in > > > > > 9th > > > > > > house which is a > > > > > > > >>>> > Royal > > > > > > > >>>> > > Yoga. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have > > > > > > helped you grow in your > > > > > > > >>>> > > career. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very > > > > > > suitable. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter > > > > > and > > > > > > Moon. -ve. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve > > > > > > (but ok if malefic > > > > > > > >>>> > > debiliated in 12th > > > > > > > >>>> > > > house) > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and > > > > > just > > > > > > out > > > > > > > >>>> of 8th house. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and > > > > > relatively > > > > > > unafflicted is > > > > > > > >>>> > working > > > > > > > >>>> > > the > > > > > > > >>>> best. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Suns stone would probably give you > > > > > better > > > > > > health and overall > > > > > > > >>>> > luck. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > But venus will cause growth in career. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > -- > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Ã'Ã...ò Ã'à " Ã0/00Ã'à " Ã?Ã'à " f > > > > > > Ã'à " ´Ã'à " Æ'Ã'à " ²Ã'à " ¬Ã'à " Ã? > > > > > > > >>>> > > > RKM > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda > > > > > > krsna > > > > > > > >>>> <yasodakrsna@ > > > > > > > > >>>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj, > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of > > > > > SJC > > > > > > have made error. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Particularly in my case was > > > > > recommended > > > > > > Coral by one, > > > > > > > >>>> Ruby > > > > > > > >>>> > by > > > > > > > >>>> > > two. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by > > > > > > > >>>> recommended quality > > > > > > > >>>> > gemologist. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not > > > > > by > > > > > > internet > > > > > > > >>>> questions > > > > > > > >>>> > but > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > by paid > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > services. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The good thing was the price of gold > > > > > > soared and made good > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > money > > > > > > > >>>> > > by selling > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > it. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath > > > > > recommendation > > > > > > of yellow > > > > > > > >>>> sapphire > > > > > > > >>>> > as > > > > > > > >>>> > > it works. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their > > > > > > Devata for the > > > > > > > >>>> prediction > > > > > > > >>>> > to > > > > > > > >>>> > > be true. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Yasoda. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than > > > > > > gemstone if sincere > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ > > > > > 2000@> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > vedic astrology; > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > >>>> Choosing Gemstones > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > It's been more than four years that I > > > > > > studied > > > > > > > >>>> different > > > > > > > >>>> > books on > > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstones > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > and got advise from different good > > > > > > astrologers about the > > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstone. But none > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > of them gave very good result. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > As of now, some of the following > > > > > > theories are present for > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > choosing > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > gemstone. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord > > > > > > > >>>> (recommended by many > > > > > > > >>>> astrologers) > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, > > > > > 5, > > > > > > and 9) - Anukool > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool) > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > However, I recently found that one > > > > > > gemstone worked very > > > > > > > >>>> well > > > > > > > >>>> > for > > > > > > > >>>> > > me. After > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wearing that I got a very good > > > > > results > > > > > > in my career and > > > > > > > >>>> also > > > > > > > >>>> > my > > > > > > > >>>> > > income > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > increased by more than 100% in > > > > > approx. 4 > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not > > > > > recommended > > > > > > to me by any > > > > > > > >>>> > astrologer > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > (though I > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > consulted several ones in person) and > > > > > in > > > > > > no such book it > > > > > > > >>>> was > > > > > > > >>>> > > mentioned that > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > I should choose this gemstone. I read > > > > > > approximately 8-10 > > > > > > > >>>> > books > > > > > > > >>>> > > on gem > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I > > > > > > was not advised to > > > > > > > >>>> > wear > > > > > > > >>>> > > this gemstone. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, > > > > > > Yellow Sapphire and > > > > > > > >>>> Red > > > > > > > >>>> > Coral > > > > > > > >>>> > > by > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > different astrologers. One even > > > > > advised > > > > > > blue sapphire, > > > > > > > >>>> that > > > > > > > >>>> > made > > > > > > > >>>> > > matters > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > worse. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details > > > > > and > > > > > > then I will tell > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > gem > > > > > > > >>>> > > stone that > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > worked for me. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978 > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA) > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon > > > > > > (Substitute of > > > > > > > >>>> Diamond). > > > > > > > >>>> > I > > > > > > > >>>> > > worn this in > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and > > > > > things > > > > > > started working > > > > > > > >>>> > positive > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing > > > > > > exceptional in > > > > > > > >>>> my > > > > > > > >>>> > > personal / work > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be > > > > > > noted. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. It's not lord of > > > > > > > >>>> trines. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not > > > > > running. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Still, it gave me good results. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way > > > > > > that may be tried > > > > > > > >>>> if > > > > > > > >>>> > some > > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > to try. Please share your results, so > > > > > > that we can know > > > > > > > >>>> more > > > > > > > >>>> > > about this. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in > > > > > 1,5,9 > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If > > > > > > any of the planets > > > > > > > >>>> > that > > > > > > > >>>> > > were in 1,5,9 > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > house moves to > > > > > > > >>>> some other house, ignore that planet. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines > > > > > > (1,5,9) in both natal > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > chart > > > > > > > >>>> > > and > > > > > > > >>>> bhava > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore > > > > > rahu, > > > > > > ketu) > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found > > > > > till > > > > > > step 3 is > > > > > > > >>>> benefic > > > > > > > >>>> > for > > > > > > > >>>> > > your > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose > > > > > the > > > > > > main gemstone of > > > > > > > >>>> > that > > > > > > > >>>> > > planet and > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wear it in the right hand. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet > > > > > that > > > > > > was found in > > > > > > > >>>> step > > > > > > > >>>> 3 > > > > > > > >>>> > is > > > > > > > >>>> > > malefic, > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > then choose the substitute gem for > > > > > that > > > > > > planet and wear > > > > > > > >>>> it > > > > > > > >>>> > in > > > > > > > >>>> > > the left hand. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > The above was just a thought that came to my > > > > > > mind and if > > > > > > > >>>> > some > > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants to > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > try it, they may do so for > > > > > experiment. > > > > > > Kindly share with > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > other > > > > > > > >>>> > > members, if > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > this method works for you. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > > > > >>>> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > > > > >>>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > > > > > Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > > > > > >>>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > > > > > the Great who said > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> that the human > > > > > > > >>>> > stomach should not become a graveyard for > > > > > > animals. > > > > > > > >>>> > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > > > > > one free chart > > > > > > > >>>> reading > > > > > > > >>>> > today > > > > > > > >>>> Links > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > > > > >>>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > > > > >>>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > > > > Mantra 'Hare > > > > > > Rama Krishna' > > > > > > > >>>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > > > > the > > > > > > Great who said that the human > > > > > > > >>>> stomach should not become a graveyard for > > > > > animals. > > > > > > > >>>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > > > > one > > > > > > free chart reading > > > > > > > >>>> today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Soul Sadhak , Namaskar Yes, if its purely unafflicted. Check sandhis, gandanthas, combustion etc. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Soul Sadhak pisze: Dear Rafal, In that case should a gemstone for such a badhakesh be advisable - given that other conditions in the chart allow? Mant thanx SS. > --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Rafal Ji) > sohamsa@ .com > Sunday, July 13, 2008, 6:27 PM > > > > > > > kleem namah narasimhaaya > Dear Anna , Namaskar > > When badhakesh is unafflicted (benefic/strong/ 12H) then it takes away the obstacles and from that perspective its positive. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > 108ar pisze: > > > > > > > > > Dear Raphal and Maja, > I am dying to learn why/when 'Badhakesh can be blessing for an individual, as Raphael wrote. > btw. I read all your posts with interest, I appreciate that you both are honest and open-minded astrol' s > best wishes, > Anna > > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ > wrote: > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Rafal Ji) > sohamsa@ .com > Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:02 PM > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste dear Rafal Ji, > > Okay... let me finally introduce myself: My name is Maja and I have > no idea yet what is the art design for front page of "Vedic > remedies" by Sanjay Rath, but I am about to find it out till the end > of this month when friend of mine is supposed to come back from > India with my copy of this book. Nice to meet you too. > > 1. You see, that list of "NO" points are what I have learned so far > about gemstones, so when you take it in consideration, the only > conclusion I can make for now is that there is no suitable gemstone > I can prescribe for any Kanya lagna (including myself, and (still > only with taking that list in consideration) especially because of > Sk in trika bhava). That is the reason why I wrote that I find that > list very frustrating. Of course, another reason is that I assumed > that there must be deeper story behind those points I wrote, except > I haven't got that far yet (I don't have a plan to stop myself here > with gemstones, don't worry). I'll trust you on that advice about > diamond exactly because I understand that this list is not "the edge > of the world" about criteria for choosing. But it is nice to find > out at the same time that I can advice diamond to a friend of mine > who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is in 9th bhava. If I am o.k. she > is going to bloom with diamond. As I understand in her case there is > no single reason to avoid it. > > 2. Well I am at the kinder garden level with gemstones. I just play > with that a little. (But mantras are still… There I am a new born > baby) Right now I am doing everything possible from my position to > get closer to elementary school. (Don't take personally following > lines, please. It is nothing pointed to you.) "Badhakesh many times > is blessing to the native". From the perspective of kinder garden I > can give no knowledgably comment on this sentence. By the time I > reach that deeper perspective I just hope that I shall not meet with > explanation that sounds like "If you focus real hard you can prove > hypothesis that elephant can hang over from a cliff with his tail > holding to a daisy", because I ran off from Western Astrology > exactly because of such things. I would take it real hard to > disappoint in Jyotish. That explanation better be very good and > reasonable. > > Regards, > Maja > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ....> > wrote: > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > > > 1. Why is it frustrating for Kanya with Shukra in trika? Do you > mean it > > takes away the viveka to choose a gem as general or its > problematic to > > choose a gem for you? For your chart its diamond..easy. > > > > 2. In choosing a gem the planet (gem-karaka) should bless one with > the > > material / emotional goods. So dusthana, maraka, badhakesh, neelam > can > > be good depending on a chart - as they can provide goods to the > native. > > Sri Jagannath Center tries to teach class of astrologers which > will rise > > above those generalizations like 'dusthana is bad, maraka is bad, > > badhakesh is bad' etc..thats kindergarden astrology. Badhakesh > many > > times is blessing to the native. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > Ohh... so that was the catch! Thank you very much. > > > > > > It is just that I find following list very frustrating sometimes: > > > > > > Lord of 2nd & 7th, maraka-NO! > > > Lord of 6, 8 & 12th, dustahn-NO! > > > Lord of 3rd & 11th, trika-NO! > > > Graha in dustahn-NO! > > > Graha in trika-NO! > > > Badhakesh-NO! > > > Blue sapphire-NO! > > > Green emerald-NO! > > > > > > (I also find it very frustrating because I am Kanya lagna with > Sukra > > > in trika bhava > > > > > > Regards, > > > Maja > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > 40. com>, > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > Dear Maja & SS , Namaskar > > > > > > > > Usually we perscribe gems for kona lords to increase the rise, > > > fortune > > > > and wealth of native. > > > > > > > > Here Mangal is unafflicted and wellplaced so it will give > effect > > > of > > > > Lagnesh and not sixth lord. > > > > > > > > Instead Shani will give effect of sixth lord giving problem to > > > pitta and > > > > tridoshic problems of genital area/anus (right side) (82-91). > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > I don't have to write too much, question is same (down there > in > > > > > previous email from SS). > > > > > > > > > > Help us? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Maja > > > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > 40. com> > > > <sohamsa% > > > 40. com>, > > > > > "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please can you advise why Coral will be appropriate even > though > > > > > Mars > > > > > > is 6th lord? > > > > > > Is it because it lords 9th from AL? > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanx > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > <sohamsa% 40. com> <sohamsa% > > > 40. com>, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the gem will > > > activate > > > > > it. > > > > > > > Parivartana means that Diamond will activate Bu in 3 > from AL > > > > > which > > > > > > > afflicts career life and skills of native. > > > > > > > 2. Neck influences thinking. > > > > > > > 3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet > forward in > > > > > > kalachakra > > > > > > > scheme. > > > > > > > 4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak. Badhakesh > in > > > > > lagna > > > > > > is > > > > > > > corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga > > > > > > > 5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in twelfth. I > follow > > > > > Sanjayji > > > > > > who > > > > > > > also looks at lord when bhava is empty. > > > > > > > 6. We can do everything if we know what we are doing. > > > Planets in > > > > > > lagna, > > > > > > > fifth and tenth eclipses the others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rajarshi nandy pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was trying to understand your advise to Mr Sunil. It > > > would > > > > > be > > > > > > great > > > > > > > > if you could kindly clarify some points which I could > not > > > > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th lord, due > to > > > yuti > > > > > > causing > > > > > > > > exchange of effects? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck? What > is its > > > > > > significance? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will give > effects > > > of > > > > > > shani. > > > > > > > > Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? But i > > > thought > > > > > it > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please tell me > the > > > exact > > > > > > rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa badhaka. > In > > > that > > > > > > case > > > > > > > > shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to nagraj > temple? > > > Why > > > > > is > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Krishna idol donation neeeded? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajarshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /* > > > > > > > > *"This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet* > > > > > > > > */ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ >/* > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > > > @ . com > > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > > > > > > Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > >> Dear Sunil, Namaskar > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> 1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord > which is > > > > > > > >> negative, but will also improve the finances and > > > > > Chandra..so > > > > > > its > > > > > > > >> not perfect. Coral has less side-effects here. > > > > > > > >> 2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for karma. > > > > > > > >> 3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified by > AK. > > > > > Irs > > > > > > also > > > > > > > >> in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL. > > > > > > > >> 4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial > setbacks > > > > > > (rasi) > > > > > > > >> and then improvement (navamsa). > > > > > > > >> 5. Just please try to perform those remedies which I > have > > > > > > given > > > > > > > >> in the last mail. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the Sarpa > > > > > should > > > > > > be > > > > > > > >> broken and the ninth lord should be lifted - > Bhuvanesvari. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be > > > > > remedied > > > > > > by > > > > > > > >> gift of idol/picture related to Sri Krishna. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Regards, > > > > > > > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > >> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>> Dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > > >>> Namaskar > > > > > > > >>> Thank you very much for your guidance. I like to hear > > > > > your > > > > > > > >>> comments, not just about me, but even regarding other > > > > > > > >>> person/subject > > > > > > > >>> Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still > > > > > wearing > > > > > > a > > > > > > > >>> Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring finger. > > > > > Should > > > > > > that > > > > > > > >>> be removed too? Not that I see any visible difference > > > > > after > > > > > > > >>> wearing it. > > > > > > > >>> I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean Coral > in > > > > > my > > > > > > case) > > > > > > > >>> in gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions for > > > > > this. > > > > > > > >>> Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow > > > > > Sapphire to > > > > > > > >>> boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due to > > > > > > Rahu's 9th > > > > > > > >>> aspect. Is it appropriate? > > > > > > > >>> As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good > period > > > > > > since > > > > > > > >>> the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic > gains > > > > > > now and > > > > > > > >>> then but nothing substantial. I would love to change > the > > > > > > > >>> situation, if I can, and solicit your advice in this > > > > > > regard. If > > > > > > > >>> you will be kind enough to please give me a clear > idea > > > > > what > > > > > > I > > > > > > > >>> can do. > > > > > > > >>> Regards > > > > > > > >>> Sunil > > > > > > > >>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ > > > > > wp.pl>/* > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > > > > > > > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > Gemstones > > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > > >>> @ . com > > > > > > > >>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > >>> Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with > > > > > rahu in > > > > > > > >>> Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna idol/picture to > > > > > > > >>> temple/spiritual person. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> You can wear only Coral. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in > > > > > > third/ninth > > > > > > > >>> - only in dasa of this malefic - instead use right > > > > > hand > > > > > > with > > > > > > > >>> fortune-gem. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana and > > > > > > > >>> worship Hanumanji sincerly! > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome > > > > > as > > > > > > its > > > > > > > >>> the strength period (neechavastha) , after initial > > > > > > struggle > > > > > > > >>> there should be improvement due to exaltation in d9. > > > > > > This > > > > > > > >>> period works for spirituality a lot due to karakaamsa > > > > > > > >>> position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra and > > > > > being > > > > > > GK > > > > > > > >>> it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be > > > > > > > >>> strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact > > > > > that > > > > > > Mo > > > > > > > >>> in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H). > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Regards, > > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > >>> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com/ > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/> > > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/ <http://www.rohinaa. com/>>> / > > > > > > email: > > > > > > > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > > > > >>>> Dear Maja, > > > > > > > >>>> I fully appreciate your openness about various > > > > > > observations > > > > > > > >>>> made so far. At least you are better than me when > > > > > you > > > > > > say > > > > > > > >>>> few charts are clear to you. To me all of them look > > > > > > confusing. > > > > > > > >>>> My birth data is as follows: > > > > > > > >>>> DOB: 21st September 1955 > > > > > > > >>>> TOB: 10:32 A.M. > > > > > > > >>>> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27) > > > > > > > >>>> Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am > > > > > not > > > > > > in a > > > > > > > >>>> hurry. > > > > > > > >>>> Regards > > > > > > > >>>> Sunil > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, > > > > > majastrbacastro /<majastrbacastro@ > > > > > > > >>>> > <majastrbaca stro@>/* wrote: > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> <majastrbaca stro@> > > > > > > > >>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > Gemstones > > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > > >>>> @ . com > > > > > > > >>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > >>>> Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > >>>> Namaste > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> My decision > > > > > > > >>>> to wear that gift I received has nothing to do > > > > > > with > > > > > > > >>>> procedure of determining proper gemstone It > > > > > is > > > > > > just that I wear > > > > > > > >>>> jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find > > > > > it > > > > > > very entertaining > > > > > > > >>>> to learn about gemstones (not just for past two > > > > > > days), for past > > > > > > > >>>> month or two I had a few dialogues regarding > > > > > same > > > > > > kind of ring that > > > > > > > >>>> you are wearing right now, and it turned out it > > > > > is > > > > > > not suitable for > > > > > > > >>>> me when I was about to buy one. What happened > > > > > > yesterday I consider > > > > > > > >>>> it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for > > > > > > few months. (If I > > > > > > > >>>> suddenly disappear from list it will mean that > > > > > it > > > > > > was a wrong > > > > > > > >>>> decision > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would > > > > > > like to look at > > > > > > > >>>> whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to > > > > > > take it just as an > > > > > > > >>>> opinion. As I have said on the beginning of > > > > > this > > > > > > thread I am not > > > > > > > >>>> quite skilled with this issue, so have this > > > > > > > >>>> in mind (Though it was > > > > > > > >>>> not so difficult for me to say that ruby is > > > > > proper > > > > > > > >>>> gemstone for > > > > > > > >>>> Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so > > > > > > confusing as they > > > > > > > >>>> often could be in various charts. When > > > > > positions > > > > > > in chart are > > > > > > > >>>> complicated I choose to say "I don't know" > > > > > rather > > > > > > than to ruin > > > > > > > >>>> someone's life.) > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > > > > >>>> Maja > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> --- In , Sunil > > > > > > Sharma > > > > > > > >>>> <sunilsharma21@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Dear Maja, > > > > > > > >>>> > I have been reading each and every message on > > > > > > this thread and, at > > > > > > > >>>> the outset, was surprised to read about > > > > > Neeraj's > > > > > > observations. > > > > > > > >>>> However, things became quite clear later on > > > > > > especially with your > > > > > > > >>>> comments on antardasha. > > > > > > > >>>> > Your very last sentence in your last mail > > > > > (even > > > > > > though chandra is > > > > > > > >>>> not lording my trines) caught my attention. > > > > > > Debilitated chandra (in > > > > > > > >>>> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my > > > > > > chart with exalted > > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka > > > > > > > >>>> Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu > > > > > conjoining > > > > > > moon in > > > > > > > >>>> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th > > > > > > > >>>> house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY > > > > > > > >>>> or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, > > > > > the > > > > > > net result is > > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already > > > > > > afflicted due to > > > > > > > >>>> debilitation) is afflicted. All this is > > > > > something > > > > > > I have been told > > > > > > > >>>> by various astrologers (not necessarily all at > > > > > the > > > > > > same time). > > > > > > > >>>> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and > > > > > Diamond > > > > > > to me. I am still > > > > > > > >>>> wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand > > > > > > ring finger > > > > > > > >>>> (presently going through Venus dasha), and > > > > > Coral > > > > > > in gold pendant in > > > > > > > >>>> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier > > > > > > but changed it to a > > > > > > > >>>> pendant and wore it in the neck in a black > > > > > string. > > > > > > I have since > > > > > > > >>>> removed it but I must say that whenever I wear > > > > > > Pearl it quietens my > > > > > > > >>>> temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any > > > > > > improvement in my > > > > > > > >>>> career or financial aspects. > > > > > > > >>>> > Now, my real question to you is > > > > > > > >>>> this. Moon being afflicted and > > > > > > > >>>> left hand to be used (for the effect to be > > > > > > reduced), I should > > > > > > > >>>> have > > > > > > > >>>> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You > > > > > > may take few days to > > > > > > > >>>> reply! I am not in a hurry. > > > > > > > >>>> > Regards > > > > > > > >>>> > Sunil > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro > > > > > > <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> > > > > > > > >>>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > > Gemstones (Swami) > > > > > > > >>>> > To: > > > > > > > >>>> > Date: Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Namaste dear Swami, > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra > > > > > > being unfavorable > > > > > > > >>>> Graha > > > > > > > >>>> > in this chart, those mentioned were the only > > > > > one > > > > > > I could find (and > > > > > > > >>>> > that was after quite some time spent in > > > > > serious > > > > > > thinking). It is > > > > > > > >>>> my > > > > > > > >>>> > mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra and > > > > > > Maheshvara in Shula > > > > > > > >>>> dasa > > > > > > > >>>> > somewhere in my > > > > > > > >>>> memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I > > > > > did > > > > > > > >>>> say > > > > > > > >>>> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any > > > > > > > >>>> significance to wear gemstone > > > > > > > >>>> > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > So far I was informed about just a few rules > > > > > > regarding determining > > > > > > > >>>> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I > > > > > thought > > > > > > that Ketu/Rahu > > > > > > > >>>> could > > > > > > > >>>> > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th > > > > > > from AK or if Rahu > > > > > > > >>>> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful > > > > > > information about this > > > > > > > >>>> > issue. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... > > > > > I > > > > > > received one > > > > > > > >>>> > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: > > > > > > silver ring with a > > > > > > > >>>> pearl > > > > > > > >>>> > and matching silver pectoral also decorated > > > > > with > > > > > > pearls. What is > > > > > > > >>>> > this today...? I was never this much involved > > > > > in > > > > > > any thread so > > > > > > > >>>> far. > > > > > > > >>>> > WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear it, even > > > > > > though Chandra is not > > > > > > > >>>> > lording my trines. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > > > > >>>> > Maja > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > --- In > > > > > > > >>>> @ . com, "swami" > > > > > <swami@> > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om, > > > > > > > >>>> > > Dear Maja, > > > > > > > >>>> > > Your insights are great, incidently I was > > > > > > struck at your > > > > > > > >>>> mention > > > > > > > >>>> > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I > > > > > > don't think > > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > > > > significance) . > > > > > > > >>>> > > I could not understand How sukra is > > > > > > maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu > > > > > > > >>>> as > > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar planet . that also is appears > > > > > incorrect. > > > > > > > >>>> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu > > > > > so > > > > > > count to 8 th > > > > > > > >>>> would > > > > > > > >>>> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads > > > > > to > > > > > > Leo. > > > > > > > >>>> > > The sign lord is SUN. > > > > > > > >>>> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN > > > > > > becomes Brahma Planet. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th > > > > > and > > > > > > 12 th from Sun > > > > > > > >>>> the > > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar. > > > > > > > >>>> > > Eight > > > > > > > >>>> lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup. > > > > > > > >>>> > > We apply parashar strength to determne > > > > > > strenth.Ketu and jup are > > > > > > > >>>> > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so > > > > > as > > > > > > per naisargic bal > > > > > > > >>>> Jup > > > > > > > >>>> > is Maheswar. > > > > > > > >>>> > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 > > > > > sutra. > > > > > > > >>>> > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is > > > > > > discussed. > > > > > > > >>>> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih > > > > > > knowledge .So Gem stone of > > > > > > > >>>> > planet that is maheswar if put in left should > > > > > > diminish > > > > > > > >>>> knowledge.If > > > > > > > >>>> > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of > > > > > > vedic shahstra. > > > > > > > >>>> > > Perhaps native has tried many gems. > > > > > > > >>>> > > By the way, influence of wearing planet > > > > > > related to maheshwar is > > > > > > > >>>> > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i > > > > > could > > > > > > access, so this > > > > > > > >>>> > last suggestion may be taken just a logical > > > > > > > >>>> aplication. > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment. > > > > > > > >>>> > > with regards. > > > > > > > >>>> > > OM TATSAT > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > > --- > > > > > > -- --------- > > > > > > > >>>> > > Swami_RCS > > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > --- > > > > > > ----- -------- > > > > > > > >>>> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious > > > > > effulgence > > > > > > of that Divine > > > > > > > >>>> Being > > > > > > > >>>> > who has created the three worlds.May He > > > > > Direct > > > > > > our understanding. " > > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > --- > > > > > > ----- --------- -------- > > > > > > > >>>> -- > > > > > > > >>>> > - > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > >>>> > > majastrbacastro > > > > > > > >>>> > > To: > > > > > > > >>>> > > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM > > > > > > > >>>> > > Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > > Gemstones > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?), > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing > > > > > > zircon on his left > > > > > > > >>>> hand, > > > > > > > >>>> > so > > > > > > > >>>> > > that means he was weakening his lord of > > > > > > > >>>> 10th bhava in 9th... > > > > > > > >>>> And > > > > > > > >>>> > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd > > > > > > bhava (which is > > > > > > > >>>> > considered > > > > > > > >>>> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also > > > > > > maheshvara.. . but I don't > > > > > > > >>>> > think > > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > > > > significance) . > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I really dislike complicating simple > > > > > things, > > > > > > but this time I > > > > > > > >>>> can > > > > > > > >>>> > not > > > > > > > >>>> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in > > > > > > Dhanu, yet Mithuna is > > > > > > > >>>> > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra > > > > > and > > > > > > Guru in it. That > > > > > > > >>>> > means > > > > > > > >>>> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his > > > > > > Arudha Lagna. 12th > > > > > > > >>>> lord > > > > > > > >>>> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from > > > > > Arudha > > > > > > Lagna signifies > > > > > > > >>>> > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. > > > > > > These are just > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> thoughts... > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Regards, > > > > > > > >>>> > > Maja > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > --- In > > > > > > > >>>> @ . com, RKM > > > > > > <rajeevmundra@ > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Dear Neeraj > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in > > > > > 9th > > > > > > house which is a > > > > > > > >>>> > Royal > > > > > > > >>>> > > Yoga. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have > > > > > > helped you grow in your > > > > > > > >>>> > > career. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very > > > > > > suitable. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter > > > > > and > > > > > > Moon. -ve. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve > > > > > > (but ok if malefic > > > > > > > >>>> > > debiliated in 12th > > > > > > > >>>> > > > house) > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and > > > > > just > > > > > > out > > > > > > > >>>> of 8th house. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and > > > > > relatively > > > > > > unafflicted is > > > > > > > >>>> > working > > > > > > > >>>> > > the > > > > > > > >>>> best. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Suns stone would probably give you > > > > > better > > > > > > health and overall > > > > > > > >>>> > luck. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > But venus will cause growth in career. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > -- > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Ã'Ã...ò Ã'Ã"Ã0/00Ã'Ã"Ã?Ã'Ã"f > > > > > > Ã'Ã"´Ã'Ã"Æ'Ã'Ã"²Ã'Ã"¬Ã'Ã"Ã? > > > > > > > >>>> > > > RKM > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda > > > > > > krsna > > > > > > > >>>> <yasodakrsna@ > > > > > > > > >>>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj, > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of > > > > > SJC > > > > > > have made error. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Particularly in my case was > > > > > recommended > > > > > > Coral by one, > > > > > > > >>>> Ruby > > > > > > > >>>> > by > > > > > > > >>>> > > two. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by > > > > > > > >>>> recommended quality > > > > > > > >>>> > gemologist. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not > > > > > by > > > > > > internet > > > > > > > >>>> questions > > > > > > > >>>> > but > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > by paid > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > services. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The good thing was the price of gold > > > > > > soared and made good > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > money > > > > > > > >>>> > > by selling > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > it. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath > > > > > recommendation > > > > > > of yellow > > > > > > > >>>> sapphire > > > > > > > >>>> > as > > > > > > > >>>> > > it works. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their > > > > > > Devata for the > > > > > > > >>>> prediction > > > > > > > >>>> > to > > > > > > > >>>> > > be true. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Yasoda. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than > > > > > > gemstone if sincere > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ > > > > > 2000@> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > vedic astrology; > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > @ . com > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > >>>> Choosing Gemstones > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > It's been more than four years that I > > > > > > studied > > > > > > > >>>> different > > > > > > > >>>> > books on > > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstones > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > and got advise from different good > > > > > > astrologers about the > > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstone. But none > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > of them gave very good result. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > As of now, some of the following > > > > > > theories are present for > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > choosing > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > gemstone. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord > > > > > > > >>>> (recommended by many > > > > > > > >>>> astrologers) > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, > > > > > 5, > > > > > > and 9) - Anukool > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool) > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > However, I recently found that one > > > > > > gemstone worked very > > > > > > > >>>> well > > > > > > > >>>> > for > > > > > > > >>>> > > me. After > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wearing that I got a very good > > > > > results > > > > > > in my career and > > > > > > > >>>> also > > > > > > > >>>> > my > > > > > > > >>>> > > income > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > increased by more than 100% in > > > > > approx. 4 > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not > > > > > recommended > > > > > > to me by any > > > > > > > >>>> > astrologer > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > (though I > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > consulted several ones in person) and > > > > > in > > > > > > no such book it > > > > > > > >>>> was > > > > > > > >>>> > > mentioned that > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > I should choose this gemstone. I read > > > > > > approximately 8-10 > > > > > > > >>>> > books > > > > > > > >>>> > > on gem > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I > > > > > > was not advised to > > > > > > > >>>> > wear > > > > > > > >>>> > > this gemstone. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, > > > > > > Yellow Sapphire and > > > > > > > >>>> Red > > > > > > > >>>> > Coral > > > > > > > >>>> > > by > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > different astrologers. One even > > > > > advised > > > > > > blue sapphire, > > > > > > > >>>> that > > > > > > > >>>> > made > > > > > > > >>>> > > matters > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > worse. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details > > > > > and > > > > > > then I will tell > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > gem > > > > > > > >>>> > > stone that > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > worked for me. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978 > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA) > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon > > > > > > (Substitute of > > > > > > > >>>> Diamond). > > > > > > > >>>> > I > > > > > > > >>>> > > worn this in > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and > > > > > things > > > > > > started working > > > > > > > >>>> > positive > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing > > > > > > exceptional in > > > > > > > >>>> my > > > > > > > >>>> > > personal / work > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be > > > > > > noted. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. It's not lord of > > > > > > > >>>> trines. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not > > > > > running. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Still, it gave me good results. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way > > > > > > that may be tried > > > > > > > >>>> if > > > > > > > >>>> > some > > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > to try. Please share your results, so > > > > > > that we can know > > > > > > > >>>> more > > > > > > > >>>> > > about this. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in > > > > > 1,5,9 > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If > > > > > > any of the planets > > > > > > > >>>> > that > > > > > > > >>>> > > were in 1,5,9 > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > house moves to > > > > > > > >>>> some other house, ignore that planet. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines > > > > > > (1,5,9) in both natal > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > chart > > > > > > > >>>> > > and > > > > > > > >>>> bhava > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore > > > > > rahu, > > > > > > ketu) > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found > > > > > till > > > > > > step 3 is > > > > > > > >>>> benefic > > > > > > > >>>> > for > > > > > > > >>>> > > your > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose > > > > > the > > > > > > main gemstone of > > > > > > > >>>> > that > > > > > > > >>>> > > planet and > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wear it in the right hand. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet > > > > > that > > > > > > was found in > > > > > > > >>>> step > > > > > > > >>>> 3 > > > > > > > >>>> > is > > > > > > > >>>> > > malefic, > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > then choose the substitute gem for > > > > > that > > > > > > planet and wear > > > > > > > >>>> it > > > > > > > >>>> > in > > > > > > > >>>> > > the left hand. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > The above was just a thought that came to my > > > > > > mind and if > > > > > > > >>>> > some > > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants to > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > try it, they may do so for > > > > > experiment. > > > > > > Kindly share with > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > other > > > > > > > >>>> > > members, if > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > this method works for you. > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > > > > >>>> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > > > > >>>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > > > > > Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > > > > > >>>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > > > > > the Great who said > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> that the human > > > > > > > >>>> > stomach should not become a graveyard for > > > > > > animals. > > > > > > > >>>> > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > > > > > one free chart > > > > > > > >>>> reading > > > > > > > >>>> > today Groups > > > > > > > >>>> Links > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > > > > >>>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > > > > >>>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > > > > Mantra 'Hare > > > > > > Rama Krishna' > > > > > > > >>>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > > > > the > > > > > > Great who said that the human > > > > > > > >>>> stomach should not become a graveyard for > > > > > animals. > > > > > > > >>>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > > > > one > > > > > > free chart reading > > > > > > > >>>> today Links > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> ( ID required) > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- - ------ > --- > > > > > --- > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > > > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. 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Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Thank You :-) sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Soul Sadhak , Namaskar > > Yes, if its purely unafflicted. Check sandhis, gandanthas, combustion etc. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal > > > Soul Sadhak pisze: > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > In that case should a gemstone for such a badhakesh be advisable - > > given that other conditions in the chart allow? > > > > Mant thanx > > SS. > > > --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones > > (Rafal Ji) > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40> > > > Sunday, July 13, 2008, 6:27 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kleem namah narasimhaaya > > > Dear Anna , Namaskar > > > > > > When badhakesh is unafflicted (benefic/strong/ 12H) then it takes > > away the obstacles and from that perspective its positive. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 108ar pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Raphal and Maja, > > > I am dying to learn why/when 'Badhakesh can be blessing for an > > individual, as Raphael wrote. > > > btw. I read all your posts with interest, I appreciate that > > you both are honest and open-minded astrol' s > > > best wishes, > > > Anna > > > > > > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ > wrote: > > > > > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Rafal > > Ji) > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal Ji, > > > > > > Okay... let me finally introduce myself: My name is Maja and I have > > > no idea yet what is the art design for front page of " Vedic > > > remedies " by Sanjay Rath, but I am about to find it out till the > > end > > > of this month when friend of mine is supposed to come back from > > > India with my copy of this book. Nice to meet you too. > > > > > > 1. You see, that list of " NO " points are what I have learned so far > > > about gemstones, so when you take it in consideration, the only > > > conclusion I can make for now is that there is no suitable gemstone > > > I can prescribe for any Kanya lagna (including myself, and (still > > > only with taking that list in consideration) especially because of > > > Sk in trika bhava). That is the reason why I wrote that I find that > > > list very frustrating. Of course, another reason is that I assumed > > > that there must be deeper story behind those points I wrote, except > > > I haven't got that far yet (I don't have a plan to stop myself here > > > with gemstones, don't worry). I'll trust you on that advice about > > > diamond exactly because I understand that this list is not " the > > edge > > > of the world " about criteria for choosing. But it is nice to find > > > out at the same time that I can advice diamond to a friend of mine > > > who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is in 9th bhava. If I am o.k. she > > > is going to bloom with diamond. As I understand in her case there > > is > > > no single reason to avoid it. > > > > > > 2. Well I am at the kinder garden level with gemstones. I just play > > > with that a little. (But mantras are still... There I am a new born > > > baby) Right now I am doing everything possible from my position to > > > get closer to elementary school. (Don't take personally following > > > lines, please. It is nothing pointed to you.) " Badhakesh many times > > > is blessing to the native " . From the perspective of kinder garden I > > > can give no knowledgably comment on this sentence. By the time I > > > reach that deeper perspective I just hope that I shall not meet > > with > > > explanation that sounds like " If you focus real hard you can prove > > > hypothesis that elephant can hang over from a cliff with his tail > > > holding to a daisy " , because I ran off from Western Astrology > > > exactly because of such things. I would take it real hard to > > > disappoint in Jyotish. That explanation better be very good and > > > reasonable. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Maja > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > > > > > > > 1. Why is it frustrating for Kanya with Shukra in trika? Do you > > > mean it > > > > takes away the viveka to choose a gem as general or its > > > problematic to > > > > choose a gem for you? For your chart its diamond..easy. > > > > > > > > 2. In choosing a gem the planet (gem-karaka) should bless one > > with > > > the > > > > material / emotional goods. So dusthana, maraka, badhakesh, > > neelam > > > can > > > > be good depending on a chart - as they can provide goods to the > > > native. > > > > Sri Jagannath Center tries to teach class of astrologers which > > > will rise > > > > above those generalizations like 'dusthana is bad, maraka is bad, > > > > badhakesh is bad' etc..thats kindergarden astrology. Badhakesh > > > many > > > > times is blessing to the native. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > > > Ohh... so that was the catch! Thank you very much. > > > > > > > > > > It is just that I find following list very frustrating > > sometimes: > > > > > > > > > > Lord of 2nd & 7th, maraka-NO! > > > > > Lord of 6, 8 & 12th, dustahn-NO! > > > > > Lord of 3rd & 11th, trika-NO! > > > > > Graha in dustahn-NO! > > > > > Graha in trika-NO! > > > > > Badhakesh-NO! > > > > > Blue sapphire-NO! > > > > > Green emerald-NO! > > > > > > > > > > (I also find it very frustrating because I am Kanya lagna with > > > Sukra > > > > > in trika bhava > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Maja > > > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > > > 40. com>, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > Dear Maja & SS , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > Usually we perscribe gems for kona lords to increase the rise, > > > > > fortune > > > > > > and wealth of native. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here Mangal is unafflicted and wellplaced so it will give > > > effect > > > > > of > > > > > > Lagnesh and not sixth lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > Instead Shani will give effect of sixth lord giving problem to > > > > > pitta and > > > > > > tridoshic problems of genital area/anus (right side) (82- 91). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't have to write too much, question is same (down > > there > > > in > > > > > > > previous email from SS). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Help us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Maja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > > > 40. com> > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > > " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please can you advise why Coral will be appropriate even > > > though > > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > > is 6th lord? > > > > > > > > Is it because it lords 9th from AL? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanx > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com> <sohamsa% > > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the gem will > > > > > activate > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > Parivartana means that Diamond will activate Bu in 3 > > > from AL > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > afflicts career life and skills of native. > > > > > > > > > 2. Neck influences thinking. > > > > > > > > > 3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet > > > forward in > > > > > > > > kalachakra > > > > > > > > > scheme. > > > > > > > > > 4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak. > > Badhakesh > > > in > > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga > > > > > > > > > 5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in twelfth. I > > > follow > > > > > > > Sanjayji > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > also looks at lord when bhava is empty. > > > > > > > > > 6. We can do everything if we know what we are doing. > > > > > Planets in > > > > > > > > lagna, > > > > > > > > > fifth and tenth eclipses the others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > > > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rajarshi nandy pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was trying to understand your advise to Mr Sunil. It > > > > > would > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > great > > > > > > > > > > if you could kindly clarify some points which I could > > > not > > > > > > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th lord, > > due > > > to > > > > > yuti > > > > > > > > causing > > > > > > > > > > exchange of effects? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck? What > > > is its > > > > > > > > significance? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will give > > > effects > > > > > of > > > > > > > > shani. > > > > > > > > > > Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? But i > > > > > thought > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please tell me > > > the > > > > > exact > > > > > > > > rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa badhaka. > > > In > > > > > that > > > > > > > > case > > > > > > > > > > shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to nagraj > > > temple? > > > > > Why > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Krishna idol donation neeeded? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajarshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /* > > > > > > > > > > * " This above all: to thine own self be true! " - > > Hamlet* > > > > > > > > > > */ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ >/* > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > > > > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones > > > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > > > >> Dear Sunil, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> 1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord > > > which is > > > > > > > > > >> negative, but will also improve the finances and > > > > > > > Chandra..so > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > >> not perfect. Coral has less side-effects here. > > > > > > > > > >> 2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for karma. > > > > > > > > > >> 3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified by > > > AK. > > > > > > > Irs > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > >> in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL. > > > > > > > > > >> 4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial > > > setbacks > > > > > > > > (rasi) > > > > > > > > > >> and then improvement (navamsa). > > > > > > > > > >> 5. Just please try to perform those remedies which I > > > have > > > > > > > > given > > > > > > > > > >> in the last mail. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the Sarpa > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > >> broken and the ninth lord should be lifted - > > > Bhuvanesvari. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be > > > > > > > remedied > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > >> gift of idol/picture related to Sri Krishna. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Regards, > > > > > > > > > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > > > >> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>> Dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > > >>> Namaskar > > > > > > > > > >>> Thank you very much for your guidance. I like to > > hear > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > >>> comments, not just about me, but even regarding > > other > > > > > > > > > >>> person/subject > > > > > > > > > >>> Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still > > > > > > > wearing > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > >>> Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring finger. > > > > > > > Should > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > >>> be removed too? Not that I see any visible > > difference > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > >>> wearing it. > > > > > > > > > >>> I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean > > Coral > > > in > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > case) > > > > > > > > > >>> in gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions for > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > >>> Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow > > > > > > > Sapphire to > > > > > > > > > >>> boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due > > to > > > > > > > > Rahu's 9th > > > > > > > > > >>> aspect. Is it appropriate? > > > > > > > > > >>> As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good > > > period > > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > >>> the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic > > > gains > > > > > > > > now and > > > > > > > > > >>> then but nothing substantial. I would love to > > change > > > the > > > > > > > > > >>> situation, if I can, and solicit your advice in this > > > > > > > > regard. If > > > > > > > > > >>> you will be kind enough to please give me a clear > > > idea > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > >>> can do. > > > > > > > > > >>> Regards > > > > > > > > > >>> Sunil > > > > > > > > > >>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ > > > > > > > wp.pl>/* > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > > > > > > > > > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > > > Gemstones > > > > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > > > >>> Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with > > > > > > > rahu in > > > > > > > > > >>> Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna idol/picture to > > > > > > > > > >>> temple/spiritual person. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> You can wear only Coral. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in > > > > > > > > third/ninth > > > > > > > > > >>> - only in dasa of this malefic - instead use right > > > > > > > hand > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > >>> fortune-gem. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana > > and > > > > > > > > > >>> worship Hanumanji sincerly! > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > >>> the strength period (neechavastha) , after initial > > > > > > > > struggle > > > > > > > > > >>> there should be improvement due to exaltation in d9. > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > >>> period works for spirituality a lot due to > > karakaamsa > > > > > > > > > >>> position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra and > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > GK > > > > > > > > > >>> it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will > > be > > > > > > > > > >>> strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > Mo > > > > > > > > > >>> in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H). > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> Regards, > > > > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > > > >>> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com/ > > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/> > > > > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/ <http://www.rohinaa. com/>>> / > > > > > > > > email: > > > > > > > > > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > > > > > > >>>> Dear Maja, > > > > > > > > > >>>> I fully appreciate your openness about various > > > > > > > > observations > > > > > > > > > >>>> made so far. At least you are better than me when > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > say > > > > > > > > > >>>> few charts are clear to you. To me all of them look > > > > > > > > confusing. > > > > > > > > > >>>> My birth data is as follows: > > > > > > > > > >>>> DOB: 21st September 1955 > > > > > > > > > >>>> TOB: 10:32 A.M. > > > > > > > > > >>>> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27) > > > > > > > > > >>>> Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > in a > > > > > > > > > >>>> hurry. > > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards > > > > > > > > > >>>> Sunil > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, > > > > > > > majastrbacastro /<majastrbacastro@ > > > > > > > > > >>>> > <majastrbaca stro@>/* wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> <majastrbaca stro@> > > > > > > > > > >>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > > > Gemstones > > > > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > >>>> Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > > > >>>> Namaste > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> My decision > > > > > > > > > >>>> to wear that gift I received has nothing to do > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > >>>> procedure of determining proper gemstone It > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > just that I wear > > > > > > > > > >>>> jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > very entertaining > > > > > > > > > >>>> to learn about gemstones (not just for past two > > > > > > > > days), for past > > > > > > > > > >>>> month or two I had a few dialogues regarding > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > kind of ring that > > > > > > > > > >>>> you are wearing right now, and it turned out it > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > not suitable for > > > > > > > > > >>>> me when I was about to buy one. What happened > > > > > > > > yesterday I consider > > > > > > > > > >>>> it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for > > > > > > > > few months. (If I > > > > > > > > > >>>> suddenly disappear from list it will mean that > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > was a wrong > > > > > > > > > >>>> decision > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would > > > > > > > > like to look at > > > > > > > > > >>>> whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to > > > > > > > > take it just as an > > > > > > > > > >>>> opinion. As I have said on the beginning of > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > thread I am not > > > > > > > > > >>>> quite skilled with this issue, so have this > > > > > > > > > >>>> in mind (Though it was > > > > > > > > > >>>> not so difficult for me to say that ruby is > > > > > > > proper > > > > > > > > > >>>> gemstone for > > > > > > > > > >>>> Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so > > > > > > > > confusing as they > > > > > > > > > >>>> often could be in various charts. When > > > > > > > positions > > > > > > > > in chart are > > > > > > > > > >>>> complicated I choose to say " I don't know " > > > > > > > rather > > > > > > > > than to ruin > > > > > > > > > >>>> someone's life.) > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > > > > > > >>>> Maja > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> , Sunil > > > > > > > > Sharma > > > > > > > > > >>>> <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Dear Maja, > > > > > > > > > >>>> > I have been reading each and every message on > > > > > > > > this thread and, at > > > > > > > > > >>>> the outset, was surprised to read about > > > > > > > Neeraj's > > > > > > > > observations. > > > > > > > > > >>>> However, things became quite clear later on > > > > > > > > especially with your > > > > > > > > > >>>> comments on antardasha. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Your very last sentence in your last mail > > > > > > > (even > > > > > > > > though chandra is > > > > > > > > > >>>> not lording my trines) caught my attention. > > > > > > > > Debilitated chandra (in > > > > > > > > > >>>> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my > > > > > > > > chart with exalted > > > > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka > > > > > > > > > >>>> Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu > > > > > > > conjoining > > > > > > > > moon in > > > > > > > > > >>>> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th > > > > > > > > > >>>> house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY > > > > > > > > > >>>> or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > net result is > > > > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already > > > > > > > > afflicted due to > > > > > > > > > >>>> debilitation) is afflicted. All this is > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > I have been told > > > > > > > > > >>>> by various astrologers (not necessarily all at > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > same time). > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and > > > > > > > Diamond > > > > > > > > to me. I am still > > > > > > > > > >>>> wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand > > > > > > > > ring finger > > > > > > > > > >>>> (presently going through Venus dasha), and > > > > > > > Coral > > > > > > > > in gold pendant in > > > > > > > > > >>>> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier > > > > > > > > but changed it to a > > > > > > > > > >>>> pendant and wore it in the neck in a black > > > > > > > string. > > > > > > > > I have since > > > > > > > > > >>>> removed it but I must say that whenever I wear > > > > > > > > Pearl it quietens my > > > > > > > > > >>>> temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any > > > > > > > > improvement in my > > > > > > > > > >>>> career or financial aspects. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Now, my real question to you is > > > > > > > > > >>>> this. Moon being afflicted and > > > > > > > > > >>>> left hand to be used (for the effect to be > > > > > > > > reduced), I should > > > > > > > > > >>>> have > > > > > > > > > >>>> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You > > > > > > > > may take few days to > > > > > > > > > >>>> reply! I am not in a hurry. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Regards > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Sunil > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro > > > > > > > > <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > > > > Gemstones (Swami) > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Namaste dear Swami, > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra > > > > > > > > being unfavorable > > > > > > > > > >>>> Graha > > > > > > > > > >>>> > in this chart, those mentioned were the only > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > I could find (and > > > > > > > > > >>>> > that was after quite some time spent in > > > > > > > serious > > > > > > > > thinking). It is > > > > > > > > > >>>> my > > > > > > > > > >>>> > mistake to " equalize " effects of Rudra and > > > > > > > > Maheshvara in Shula > > > > > > > > > >>>> dasa > > > > > > > > > >>>> > somewhere in my > > > > > > > > > >>>> memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I > > > > > > > did > > > > > > > > > >>>> say > > > > > > > > > >>>> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any > > > > > > > > > >>>> significance to wear gemstone > > > > > > > > > >>>> > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > So far I was informed about just a few rules > > > > > > > > regarding determining > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I > > > > > > > thought > > > > > > > > that Ketu/Rahu > > > > > > > > > >>>> could > > > > > > > > > >>>> > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th > > > > > > > > from AK or if Rahu > > > > > > > > > >>>> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful > > > > > > > > information about this > > > > > > > > > >>>> > issue. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > received one > > > > > > > > > >>>> > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: > > > > > > > > silver ring with a > > > > > > > > > >>>> pearl > > > > > > > > > >>>> > and matching silver pectoral also decorated > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > pearls. What is > > > > > > > > > >>>> > this today...? I was never this much involved > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > any thread so > > > > > > > > > >>>> far. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear it, even > > > > > > > > though Chandra is not > > > > > > > > > >>>> > lording my trines. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Maja > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > --- In > > > > > > > > > >>>> , " swami " > > > > > > > <swami@> > > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om, > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Dear Maja, > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Your insights are great, incidently I was > > > > > > > > struck at your > > > > > > > > > >>>> mention > > > > > > > > > >>>> > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I > > > > > > > > don't think > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > > > > > > significance) . > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I could not understand How sukra is > > > > > > > > maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu > > > > > > > > > >>>> as > > > > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar planet . that also is appears > > > > > > > incorrect. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > count to 8 th > > > > > > > > > >>>> would > > > > > > > > > >>>> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > Leo. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > The sign lord is SUN. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN > > > > > > > > becomes Brahma Planet. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > 12 th from Sun > > > > > > > > > >>>> the > > > > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Eight > > > > > > > > > >>>> lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > We apply parashar strength to determne > > > > > > > > strenth.Ketu and jup are > > > > > > > > > >>>> > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > per naisargic bal > > > > > > > > > >>>> Jup > > > > > > > > > >>>> > is Maheswar. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 > > > > > > > sutra. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is > > > > > > > > discussed. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih > > > > > > > > knowledge .So Gem stone of > > > > > > > > > >>>> > planet that is maheswar if put in left should > > > > > > > > diminish > > > > > > > > > >>>> knowledge.If > > > > > > > > > >>>> > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of > > > > > > > > vedic shahstra. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Perhaps native has tried many gems. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > By the way, influence of wearing planet > > > > > > > > related to maheshwar is > > > > > > > > > >>>> > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > access, so this > > > > > > > > > >>>> > last suggestion may be taken just a logical > > > > > > > > > >>>> aplication. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > with regards. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > OM TATSAT > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > -- --------- > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Swami_RCS > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > ----- -------- > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious > > > > > > > effulgence > > > > > > > > of that Divine > > > > > > > > > >>>> Being > > > > > > > > > >>>> > who has created the three worlds.May He > > > > > > > Direct > > > > > > > > our understanding. " > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > ----- --------- -------- > > > > > > > > > >>>> -- > > > > > > > > > >>>> > - > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > - > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > majastrbacastro > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > > > > Gemstones > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?), > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing > > > > > > > > zircon on his left > > > > > > > > > >>>> hand, > > > > > > > > > >>>> > so > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that means he was weakening his lord of > > > > > > > > > >>>> 10th bhava in 9th... > > > > > > > > > >>>> And > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd > > > > > > > > bhava (which is > > > > > > > > > >>>> > considered > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also > > > > > > > > maheshvara.. . but I don't > > > > > > > > > >>>> > think > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > > > > > > significance) . > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I really dislike complicating simple > > > > > > > things, > > > > > > > > but this time I > > > > > > > > > >>>> can > > > > > > > > > >>>> > not > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in > > > > > > > > Dhanu, yet Mithuna is > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > Guru in it. That > > > > > > > > > >>>> > means > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his > > > > > > > > Arudha Lagna. 12th > > > > > > > > > >>>> lord > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from > > > > > > > Arudha > > > > > > > > Lagna signifies > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. > > > > > > > > These are just > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> thoughts... > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Maja > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > --- In > > > > > > > > > >>>> , RKM > > > > > > > > <rajeevmundra@ > > > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Dear Neeraj > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in > > > > > > > 9th > > > > > > > > house which is a > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Royal > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Yoga. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have > > > > > > > > helped you grow in your > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > career. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very > > > > > > > > suitable. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > Moon. -ve. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve > > > > > > > > (but ok if malefic > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > debiliated in 12th > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > house) > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > >>>> of 8th house. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and > > > > > > > relatively > > > > > > > > unafflicted is > > > > > > > > > >>>> > working > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > the > > > > > > > > > >>>> best. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Suns stone would probably give you > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > health and overall > > > > > > > > > >>>> > luck. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > But venus will cause growth in career. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > -- > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Ã'Ã...ò Ã'à " Ã0/00Ã'à " Ã?Ã'à " f > > > > > > > > Ã'à " ´Ã'à " Æ'Ã'à " ²Ã'à " ¬Ã'à " Ã? > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > RKM > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda > > > > > > > > krsna > > > > > > > > > >>>> <yasodakrsna@ > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj, > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of > > > > > > > SJC > > > > > > > > have made error. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Particularly in my case was > > > > > > > recommended > > > > > > > > Coral by one, > > > > > > > > > >>>> Ruby > > > > > > > > > >>>> > by > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > two. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by > > > > > > > > > >>>> recommended quality > > > > > > > > > >>>> > gemologist. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > internet > > > > > > > > > >>>> questions > > > > > > > > > >>>> > but > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > by paid > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > services. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The good thing was the price of gold > > > > > > > > soared and made good > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > money > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > by selling > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath > > > > > > > recommendation > > > > > > > > of yellow > > > > > > > > > >>>> sapphire > > > > > > > > > >>>> > as > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > it works. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their > > > > > > > > Devata for the > > > > > > > > > >>>> prediction > > > > > > > > > >>>> > to > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > be true. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Yasoda. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than > > > > > > > > gemstone if sincere > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ > > > > > > > 2000@> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > vedic astrology; > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > >>>> Choosing Gemstones > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > It's been more than four years that I > > > > > > > > studied > > > > > > > > > >>>> different > > > > > > > > > >>>> > books on > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstones > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > and got advise from different good > > > > > > > > astrologers about the > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstone. But none > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > of them gave very good result. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > As of now, some of the following > > > > > > > > theories are present for > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > choosing > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > gemstone. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord > > > > > > > > > >>>> (recommended by many > > > > > > > > > >>>> astrologers) > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, > > > > > > > 5, > > > > > > > > and 9) - Anukool > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool) > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > However, I recently found that one > > > > > > > > gemstone worked very > > > > > > > > > >>>> well > > > > > > > > > >>>> > for > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > me. After > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wearing that I got a very good > > > > > > > results > > > > > > > > in my career and > > > > > > > > > >>>> also > > > > > > > > > >>>> > my > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > income > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > increased by more than 100% in > > > > > > > approx. 4 > > > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not > > > > > > > recommended > > > > > > > > to me by any > > > > > > > > > >>>> > astrologer > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > (though I > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > consulted several ones in person) and > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > no such book it > > > > > > > > > >>>> was > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > mentioned that > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > I should choose this gemstone. I read > > > > > > > > approximately 8-10 > > > > > > > > > >>>> > books > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > on gem > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I > > > > > > > > was not advised to > > > > > > > > > >>>> > wear > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > this gemstone. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, > > > > > > > > Yellow Sapphire and > > > > > > > > > >>>> Red > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Coral > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > by > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > different astrologers. One even > > > > > > > advised > > > > > > > > blue sapphire, > > > > > > > > > >>>> that > > > > > > > > > >>>> > made > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > matters > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > worse. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > then I will tell > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > gem > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > stone that > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > worked for me. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978 > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA) > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon > > > > > > > > (Substitute of > > > > > > > > > >>>> Diamond). > > > > > > > > > >>>> > I > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > worn this in > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and > > > > > > > things > > > > > > > > started working > > > > > > > > > >>>> > positive > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing > > > > > > > > exceptional in > > > > > > > > > >>>> my > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > personal / work > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be > > > > > > > > noted. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. It's not lord of > > > > > > > > > >>>> trines. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not > > > > > > > running. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Still, it gave me good results. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way > > > > > > > > that may be tried > > > > > > > > > >>>> if > > > > > > > > > >>>> > some > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > to try. Please share your results, so > > > > > > > > that we can know > > > > > > > > > >>>> more > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > about this. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in > > > > > > > 1,5,9 > > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If > > > > > > > > any of the planets > > > > > > > > > >>>> > that > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > were in 1,5,9 > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > house moves to > > > > > > > > > >>>> some other house, ignore that planet. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines > > > > > > > > (1,5,9) in both natal > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > chart > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > and > > > > > > > > > >>>> bhava > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore > > > > > > > rahu, > > > > > > > > ketu) > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found > > > > > > > till > > > > > > > > step 3 is > > > > > > > > > >>>> benefic > > > > > > > > > >>>> > for > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > your > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > main gemstone of > > > > > > > > > >>>> > that > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > planet and > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wear it in the right hand. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > was found in > > > > > > > > > >>>> step > > > > > > > > > >>>> 3 > > > > > > > > > >>>> > is > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > malefic, > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > then choose the substitute gem for > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > planet and wear > > > > > > > > > >>>> it > > > > > > > > > >>>> > in > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > the left hand. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > The above was just a thought that came to my > > > > > > > > mind and if > > > > > > > > > >>>> > some > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants to > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > try it, they may do so for > > > > > > > experiment. > > > > > > > > Kindly share with > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > other > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > members, if > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > this method works for you. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > > > > > > > Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > > > > > > > >>>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > > > > > > > the Great who said > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> that the human > > > > > > > > > >>>> > stomach should not become a graveyard for > > > > > > > > animals. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > > > > > > > one free chart > > > > > > > > > >>>> reading > > > > > > > > > >>>> > today > > > > > > > > > >>>> Links > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > > > > > > >>>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > > > > > > >>>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > > > > > > Mantra 'Hare > > > > > > > > Rama Krishna' > > > > > > > > > >>>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Great who said that the human > > > > > > > > > >>>> stomach should not become a graveyard for > > > > > > > animals. > > > > > > > > > >>>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > free chart reading > > > > > > > > > >>>> today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 In my experience, bhadhkesh always gives malefic results, regardless of its placements. In my case, Taurus lagna, with Saturn being ninth and tenth lord is in 11th house. So Saturn is bhadhkesh for Taurus lagna, but it is nicely placed. It is very powerful in Navamsha and in Rashi chart as well. But still it gave me very very malefic results during its Mahadasha. I barely survived during Saturn Mahadasha. In my conversation with Sanjayji, he also kind of confirmed that Saturn, because of beingbhadhkesh, did not give me benefic results. So Rafalji's statement that bhadhkesh if in beneic house gives benefic results is not very convincing. I have also found this to be in other charts in addition to my own example. Thanks Manoj --- 108ar <bona_mente wrote: > Dear Rafal, > Thanks for your response- I've seen baadhakesh in > 12th /giving it to others, as we learned/ in > its`period being very challenging. My bdk. period, > of Venus in sixth /mks/ was mostly 'profitable' for > me. perid of Sa AD /lord of 7th and 8th/ was bad > health-wise, but Sa aspects Ve in rashi. > > Best wishes, > Anna > > > > --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Rafal Gendarz > <starsuponme wrote: > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: > Choosing Gemstones (Rafal Ji) > sohamsa > Sunday, July 13, 2008, 6:27 PM kleem namah narasimhaaya > Dear Anna , Namaskar > > When badhakesh is unafflicted (benefic/strong/ 12H) > then it takes away the obstacles and from that > perspective its positive. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > 108ar pisze: > > Dear Raphal and Maja, > I am dying to learn why/when 'Badhakesh can be > blessing for an individual, as Raphael wrote. > btw. I read all your posts with interest, I > appreciate that you both are honest and > open-minded astrol' s > best wishes, > Anna > > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ > > wrote: > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > Gemstones (Rafal Ji) > sohamsa@ .com > Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:02 PM > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste dear Rafal Ji, > > Okay... let me finally introduce myself: My name is > Maja and I have > no idea yet what is the art design for front page of > " Vedic > remedies " by Sanjay Rath, but I am about to find it > out till the end > of this month when friend of mine is supposed to > come back from > India with my copy of this book. Nice to meet you > too. > > 1. You see, that list of " NO " points are what I have > learned so far > about gemstones, so when you take it in > consideration, the only > conclusion I can make for now is that there is no > suitable gemstone > I can prescribe for any Kanya lagna (including > myself, and (still > only with taking that list in consideration) > especially because of > Sk in trika bhava). That is the reason why I wrote > that I find that > list very frustrating. Of course, another reason is > that I assumed > that there must be deeper story behind those points > I wrote, except > I haven't got that far yet (I don't have a plan to > stop myself here > with gemstones, don't worry). I'll trust you on that > advice about > diamond exactly because I understand that this list > is not " the edge > of the world " about criteria for choosing. But it is > nice to find > out at the same time that I can advice diamond to a > friend of mine > who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is in 9th bhava. If > I am o.k. she > is going to bloom with diamond. As I understand in > her case there is > no single reason to avoid it. > > 2. Well I am at the kinder garden level with > gemstones. I just play > with that a little. (But mantras are still… There I > am a new born > baby) Right now I am doing everything possible from > my position to > get closer to elementary school. (Don't take > personally following > lines, please. It is nothing pointed to you.) > " Badhakesh many times > is blessing to the native " . From the perspective of > kinder garden I > can give no knowledgably comment on this sentence. > By the time I > reach that deeper perspective I just hope that I > shall not meet with > explanation that sounds like " If you focus real hard > you can prove > hypothesis that elephant can hang over from a cliff > with his tail > holding to a daisy " , because I ran off from Western > Astrology > exactly because of such things. I would take it real > hard to > disappoint in Jyotish. That explanation better be > very good and > reasonable. > > Regards, > Maja > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz > <starsuponme@ ...> > wrote: > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > > > 1. Why is it frustrating for Kanya with Shukra in > trika? Do you > mean it > > takes away the viveka to choose a gem as general > or its > problematic to > > choose a gem for you? For your chart its > diamond..easy. > > > > 2. In choosing a gem the planet (gem-karaka) > should bless one with > the > > material / emotional goods. So dusthana, maraka, > badhakesh, neelam > can > > be good depending on a chart - as they can provide > goods to the > native. > > Sri Jagannath Center tries to teach class of > astrologers which > will rise > > above those generalizations like 'dusthana is bad, > maraka is bad, > > badhakesh is bad' etc..thats kindergarden > astrology. Badhakesh > many > > times is blessing to the native. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal > > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal ji, > > > > === message truncated === ________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail..ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Namaste dear Manoj, I don't like to give comments on advices from other lineages, but here I would just add that Blue Sapphire is rarely advised at all to increase Sani's effects (I understand that there are Jyotishas who advice wearing this stone, o.k. no problem). Because of this fact your example can have some weak points at the very beginning to be discussed with Rafal. Regards, Maja Hari Om Tat Sat sohamsa , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote: > > In my experience, bhadhkesh always gives malefic > results, regardless of its placements. In my case, > Taurus lagna, with Saturn being ninth and tenth lord > is in 11th house. So Saturn is bhadhkesh for Taurus > lagna, but it is nicely placed. It is very powerful in > Navamsha and in Rashi chart as well. But still it gave > me very very malefic results during its Mahadasha. I > barely survived during Saturn Mahadasha. In my > conversation with Sanjayji, he also kind of confirmed > that Saturn, because of beingbhadhkesh, did not give > me benefic results. > So Rafalji's statement that bhadhkesh if in beneic > house gives benefic results is not very convincing. I > have also found this to be in other charts in addition > to my own example. > Thanks > Manoj > --- 108ar <bona_mente wrote: > > > Dear Rafal, > > Thanks for your response- I've seen baadhakesh in > > 12th /giving it to others, as we learned/ in > > its`period being very challenging. My bdk. period, > > of Venus in sixth /mks/ was mostly 'profitable' for > > me. perid of Sa AD /lord of 7th and 8th/ was bad > > health-wise, but Sa aspects Ve in rashi. > > > > Best wishes, > > Anna > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme wrote: > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: > > Choosing Gemstones (Rafal Ji) > > sohamsa > > Sunday, July 13, 2008, 6:27 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kleem namah narasimhaaya > > Dear Anna , Namaskar > > > > When badhakesh is unafflicted (benefic/strong/ 12H) > > then it takes away the obstacles and from that > > perspective its positive. > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > > > 108ar pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Raphal and Maja, > > I am dying to learn why/when 'Badhakesh can be > > blessing for an individual, as Raphael wrote. > > btw. I read all your posts with interest, I > > appreciate that you both are honest and > > open-minded astrol' s > > best wishes, > > Anna > > > > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ > > > wrote: > > > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > Gemstones (Rafal Ji) > > sohamsa@ .com > > Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste dear Rafal Ji, > > > > Okay... let me finally introduce myself: My name is > > Maja and I have > > no idea yet what is the art design for front page of > > " Vedic > > remedies " by Sanjay Rath, but I am about to find it > > out till the end > > of this month when friend of mine is supposed to > > come back from > > India with my copy of this book. Nice to meet you > > too. > > > > 1. You see, that list of " NO " points are what I have > > learned so far > > about gemstones, so when you take it in > > consideration, the only > > conclusion I can make for now is that there is no > > suitable gemstone > > I can prescribe for any Kanya lagna (including > > myself, and (still > > only with taking that list in consideration) > > especially because of > > Sk in trika bhava). That is the reason why I wrote > > that I find that > > list very frustrating. Of course, another reason is > > that I assumed > > that there must be deeper story behind those points > > I wrote, except > > I haven't got that far yet (I don't have a plan to > > stop myself here > > with gemstones, don't worry). I'll trust you on that > > advice about > > diamond exactly because I understand that this list > > is not " the edge > > of the world " about criteria for choosing. But it is > > nice to find > > out at the same time that I can advice diamond to a > > friend of mine > > who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is in 9th bhava. If > > I am o.k. she > > is going to bloom with diamond. As I understand in > > her case there is > > no single reason to avoid it. > > > > 2. Well I am at the kinder garden level with > > gemstones. I just play > > with that a little. (But mantras are still… There I > > am a new born > > baby) Right now I am doing everything possible from > > my position to > > get closer to elementary school. (Don't take > > personally following > > lines, please. It is nothing pointed to you.) > > " Badhakesh many times > > is blessing to the native " . From the perspective of > > kinder garden I > > can give no knowledgably comment on this sentence. > > By the time I > > reach that deeper perspective I just hope that I > > shall not meet with > > explanation that sounds like " If you focus real hard > > you can prove > > hypothesis that elephant can hang over from a cliff > > with his tail > > holding to a daisy " , because I ran off from Western > > Astrology > > exactly because of such things. I would take it real > > hard to > > disappoint in Jyotish. That explanation better be > > very good and > > reasonable. > > > > Regards, > > Maja > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > > > > > 1. Why is it frustrating for Kanya with Shukra in > > trika? Do you > > mean it > > > takes away the viveka to choose a gem as general > > or its > > problematic to > > > choose a gem for you? For your chart its > > diamond..easy. > > > > > > 2. In choosing a gem the planet (gem-karaka) > > should bless one with > > the > > > material / emotional goods. So dusthana, maraka, > > badhakesh, neelam > > can > > > be good depending on a chart - as they can provide > > goods to the > > native. > > > Sri Jagannath Center tries to teach class of > > astrologers which > > will rise > > > above those generalizations like 'dusthana is bad, > > maraka is bad, > > > badhakesh is bad' etc..thats kindergarden > > astrology. Badhakesh > > many > > > times is blessing to the native. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > ________________ > Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Mail. 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Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Manoj, Namaskar Its not my convictions. I repeat Vistiji-Sanjayji words ALWAYS! Its well-known fact that badhakesh wellplaced takes the obstacles away provided he is unafflicted. Just provide your birthdetails. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Manoj Sharma pisze: In my experience, bhadhkesh always gives malefic results, regardless of its placements. In my case, Taurus lagna, with Saturn being ninth and tenth lord is in 11th house. So Saturn is bhadhkesh for Taurus lagna, but it is nicely placed. It is very powerful in Navamsha and in Rashi chart as well. But still it gave me very very malefic results during its Mahadasha. I barely survived during Saturn Mahadasha. In my conversation with Sanjayji, he also kind of confirmed that Saturn, because of beingbhadhkesh, did not give me benefic results. So Rafalji's statement that bhadhkesh if in beneic house gives benefic results is not very convincing. I have also found this to be in other charts in addition to my own example. Thanks Manoj --- 108ar <bona_mente > wrote: > Dear Rafal, > Thanks for your response- I've seen baadhakesh in > 12th /giving it to others, as we learned/ in > its`period being very challenging. My bdk. period, > of Venus in sixth /mks/ was mostly 'profitable' for > me. perid of Sa AD /lord of 7th and 8th/ was bad > health-wise, but Sa aspects Ve in rashi. > > Best wishes, > Anna > > > > --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Rafal Gendarz > <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: > Choosing Gemstones (Rafal Ji) > sohamsa@ .com > Sunday, July 13, 2008, 6:27 PM > > > > > > > kleem namah narasimhaaya > Dear Anna , Namaskar > > When badhakesh is unafflicted (benefic/strong/ 12H) > then it takes away the obstacles and from that > perspective its positive. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > 108ar pisze: > > > > > > > > > Dear Raphal and Maja, > I am dying to learn why/when 'Badhakesh can be > blessing for an individual, as Raphael wrote. > btw. I read all your posts with interest, I > appreciate that you both are honest and > open-minded astrol' s > best wishes, > Anna > > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ > > wrote: > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > Gemstones (Rafal Ji) > sohamsa@ .com > Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:02 PM > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste dear Rafal Ji, > > Okay... let me finally introduce myself: My name is > Maja and I have > no idea yet what is the art design for front page of > "Vedic > remedies" by Sanjay Rath, but I am about to find it > out till the end > of this month when friend of mine is supposed to > come back from > India with my copy of this book. Nice to meet you > too. > > 1. You see, that list of "NO" points are what I have > learned so far > about gemstones, so when you take it in > consideration, the only > conclusion I can make for now is that there is no > suitable gemstone > I can prescribe for any Kanya lagna (including > myself, and (still > only with taking that list in consideration) > especially because of > Sk in trika bhava). That is the reason why I wrote > that I find that > list very frustrating. Of course, another reason is > that I assumed > that there must be deeper story behind those points > I wrote, except > I haven't got that far yet (I don't have a plan to > stop myself here > with gemstones, don't worry). I'll trust you on that > advice about > diamond exactly because I understand that this list > is not "the edge > of the world" about criteria for choosing. But it is > nice to find > out at the same time that I can advice diamond to a > friend of mine > who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is in 9th bhava. If > I am o.k. she > is going to bloom with diamond. As I understand in > her case there is > no single reason to avoid it. > > 2. Well I am at the kinder garden level with > gemstones. I just play > with that a little. (But mantras are still… There I > am a new born > baby) Right now I am doing everything possible from > my position to > get closer to elementary school. (Don't take > personally following > lines, please. It is nothing pointed to you.) > "Badhakesh many times > is blessing to the native". From the perspective of > kinder garden I > can give no knowledgably comment on this sentence. > By the time I > reach that deeper perspective I just hope that I > shall not meet with > explanation that sounds like "If you focus real hard > you can prove > hypothesis that elephant can hang over from a cliff > with his tail > holding to a daisy", because I ran off from Western > Astrology > exactly because of such things. I would take it real > hard to > disappoint in Jyotish. That explanation better be > very good and > reasonable. > > Regards, > Maja > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz > <starsuponme@ ...> > wrote: > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > > > 1. Why is it frustrating for Kanya with Shukra in > trika? Do you > mean it > > takes away the viveka to choose a gem as general > or its > problematic to > > choose a gem for you? For your chart its > diamond..easy. > > > > 2. In choosing a gem the planet (gem-karaka) > should bless one with > the > > material / emotional goods. So dusthana, maraka, > badhakesh, neelam > can > > be good depending on a chart - as they can provide > goods to the > native. > > Sri Jagannath Center tries to teach class of > astrologers which > will rise > > above those generalizations like 'dusthana is bad, > maraka is bad, > > badhakesh is bad' etc..thats kindergarden > astrology. Badhakesh > many > > times is blessing to the native. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal > > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal ji, > > > > === message truncated === ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail. .ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 <Because of this fact your example can have some weak points at the very beginning to be discussed with Rafal.> My apologies; but I could not understand the precise import of this sentence. I do not want to discuss anything with anybody...and discuss what????My chart? At this age and stage of life, I feel very blessed that God is kind enough to give me two square meals everyday. Although I do aspire more than two square meals, I won't mind if I do not get it. I am trying to rise beyond my aspirations so that I can do my karma in a very detached manner. I guess I have got some success in that of late. I want to continue with it...so as long as my situation does not worsen, I do not intend to discuss my chart with anybody. I feel very blessed for what my situation is right now. God bless you and Rafalji... Regards --- Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > Namaste dear Manoj, > > I don't like to give comments on advices from other > lineages, but > here I would just add that Blue Sapphire is rarely > advised at all to > increase Sani's effects (I understand that there are > Jyotishas who > advice wearing this stone, o.k. no problem). Because > of this fact > your example can have some weak points at the very > beginning to be > discussed with Rafal. > > Regards, > Maja > > Hari Om Tat Sat sohamsa , Manoj Sharma > <manojsharma662000 > wrote: > > > > In my experience, bhadhkesh always gives malefic > > results, regardless of its placements. In my case, > > Taurus lagna, with Saturn being ninth and tenth > lord > > is in 11th house. So Saturn is bhadhkesh for > Taurus > > lagna, but it is nicely placed. It is very > powerful in > > Navamsha and in Rashi chart as well. But still it > gave > > me very very malefic results during its Mahadasha. > I > > barely survived during Saturn Mahadasha. In my > > conversation with Sanjayji, he also kind of > confirmed > > that Saturn, because of beingbhadhkesh, did not > give > > me benefic results. > > So Rafalji's statement that bhadhkesh if in beneic > > house gives benefic results is not very > convincing. I > > have also found this to be in other charts in > addition > > to my own example. > > Thanks > > Manoj > > --- 108ar <bona_mente wrote: > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > Thanks for your response- I've seen baadhakesh > in > > > 12th /giving it to others, as we learned/ in > > > its`period being very challenging. My bdk. > period, > > > of Venus in sixth /mks/ was mostly 'profitable' > for > > > me. perid of Sa AD /lord of 7th and 8th/ was bad > > > health-wise, but Sa aspects Ve in rashi. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Rafal Gendarz > > > <starsuponme wrote: > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: > > > Choosing Gemstones (Rafal Ji) > > > sohamsa > > > Sunday, July 13, 2008, 6:27 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kleem namah narasimhaaya > > > Dear Anna , Namaskar > > > > > > When badhakesh is unafflicted (benefic/strong/ > 12H) > > > then it takes away the obstacles and from that > > > perspective its positive. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 108ar pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Raphal and Maja, > > > I am dying to learn why/when 'Badhakesh can be > > > blessing for an individual, as Raphael wrote. > > > btw. I read all your posts with interest, I > > > appreciate that you both are honest and > > > open-minded astrol' s > > > best wishes, > > > Anna > > > > > > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Maja Strbac > <majastrbacastro@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: > Choosing > > > Gemstones (Rafal Ji) > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal Ji, > > > > > > Okay... let me finally introduce myself: My name > is > > > Maja and I have > > > no idea yet what is the art design for front > page of > > > " Vedic > > > remedies " by Sanjay Rath, but I am about to find > it > > > out till the end > > > of this month when friend of mine is supposed to > > > come back from > > > India with my copy of this book. Nice to meet > you > > > too. > > > > > > 1. You see, that list of " NO " points are what I > have > > > learned so far > > > about gemstones, so when you take it in > > > consideration, the only > > > conclusion I can make for now is that there is > no > > > suitable gemstone > > > I can prescribe for any Kanya lagna (including > > > myself, and (still > > > only with taking that list in consideration) > > > especially because of > > > Sk in trika bhava). That is the reason why I > wrote > > > that I find that > > > list very frustrating. Of course, another reason > is > > > that I assumed > > > that there must be deeper story behind those > points > > > I wrote, except > > > I haven't got that far yet (I don't have a plan > to > > > stop myself here > > > with gemstones, don't worry). I'll trust you on > that > > > advice about > > > diamond exactly because I understand that this > list > > > is not " the edge > > > of the world " about criteria for choosing. But > it is > > > nice to find > > > out at the same time that I can advice diamond > to a > > > friend of mine > > > who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is in 9th > bhava. If > > > I am o.k. she > > > is going to bloom with diamond. As I understand > in > > > her case there is > > > no single reason to avoid it. > > > > > > 2. Well I am at the kinder garden level with > > > gemstones. I just play > === message truncated === ________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Dear Manoj, Namaste But nobody tried to hurt you... I don't see a reason for such reaction. Can I try to explain it myself for second time? If I have your permission, than read rest of this email, please. Yes, you are right about badhakesh being unfavorable for a gemstone choice. It is true. But Rafal was explaining one specific case where it could be advised. If badhakesh in your chart is as strong as you describe it, than wearing a gemstone for that graha is far from recommendable. My import is following: as I have heard so far Blue Sapphire and Green Emerald are rarely on the list of gemstones to be advised for strengthening. There are different opinions about this of course, but this one has a strong chance to be from Sanjay Rath. I think I have obligation to add that I did not hear this directly from him. God bless you too dear Manoj. Best regards, Maja Hari Om Tat Sat sohamsa , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote: > > <Because of this fact your example can have some weak > points at the very beginning to be discussed with > Rafal.> > My apologies; but I could not understand the precise > import of this sentence. I do not want to discuss > anything with anybody...and discuss what????My chart? > At this age and stage of life, I feel very blessed > that God is kind enough to give me two square meals > everyday. Although I do aspire more than two square > meals, I won't mind if I do not get it. I am trying to > rise beyond my aspirations so that I can do my karma > in a very detached manner. I guess I have got some > success in that of late. I want to continue with > it...so as long as my situation does not worsen, I do > not intend to discuss my chart with anybody. I feel > very blessed for what my situation is right now. > God bless you and Rafalji... > Regards > --- Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro wrote: > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste dear Manoj, > > > > I don't like to give comments on advices from other > > lineages, but > > here I would just add that Blue Sapphire is rarely > > advised at all to > > increase Sani's effects (I understand that there are > > Jyotishas who > > advice wearing this stone, o.k. no problem). Because > > of this fact > > your example can have some weak points at the very > > beginning to be > > discussed with Rafal. > > > > Regards, > > Maja > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , Manoj Sharma > > <manojsharma662000@> > > wrote: > > > > > > In my experience, bhadhkesh always gives malefic > > > results, regardless of its placements. In my case, > > > Taurus lagna, with Saturn being ninth and tenth > > lord > > > is in 11th house. So Saturn is bhadhkesh for > > Taurus > > > lagna, but it is nicely placed. It is very > > powerful in > > > Navamsha and in Rashi chart as well. But still it > > gave > > > me very very malefic results during its Mahadasha. > > I > > > barely survived during Saturn Mahadasha. In my > > > conversation with Sanjayji, he also kind of > > confirmed > > > that Saturn, because of beingbhadhkesh, did not > > give > > > me benefic results. > > > So Rafalji's statement that bhadhkesh if in beneic > > > house gives benefic results is not very > > convincing. I > > > have also found this to be in other charts in > > addition > > > to my own example. > > > Thanks > > > Manoj > > > --- 108ar <bona_mente@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > Thanks for your response- I've seen baadhakesh > > in > > > > 12th /giving it to others, as we learned/ in > > > > its`period being very challenging. My bdk. > > period, > > > > of Venus in sixth /mks/ was mostly 'profitable' > > for > > > > me. perid of Sa AD /lord of 7th and 8th/ was bad > > > > health-wise, but Sa aspects Ve in rashi. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Rafal Gendarz > > > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: > > > > Choosing Gemstones (Rafal Ji) > > > > sohamsa > > > > Sunday, July 13, 2008, 6:27 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kleem namah narasimhaaya > > > > Dear Anna , Namaskar > > > > > > > > When badhakesh is unafflicted (benefic/strong/ > > 12H) > > > > then it takes away the obstacles and from that > > > > perspective its positive. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > > com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 108ar pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Raphal and Maja, > > > > I am dying to learn why/when 'Badhakesh can be > > > > blessing for an individual, as Raphael wrote. > > > > btw. I read all your posts with interest, I > > > > appreciate that you both are honest and > > > > open-minded astrol' s > > > > best wishes, > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Maja Strbac > > <majastrbacastro@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: > > Choosing > > > > Gemstones (Rafal Ji) > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal Ji, > > > > > > > > Okay... let me finally introduce myself: My name > > is > > > > Maja and I have > > > > no idea yet what is the art design for front > > page of > > > > " Vedic > > > > remedies " by Sanjay Rath, but I am about to find > > it > > > > out till the end > > > > of this month when friend of mine is supposed to > > > > come back from > > > > India with my copy of this book. Nice to meet > > you > > > > too. > > > > > > > > 1. You see, that list of " NO " points are what I > > have > > > > learned so far > > > > about gemstones, so when you take it in > > > > consideration, the only > > > > conclusion I can make for now is that there is > > no > > > > suitable gemstone > > > > I can prescribe for any Kanya lagna (including > > > > myself, and (still > > > > only with taking that list in consideration) > > > > especially because of > > > > Sk in trika bhava). That is the reason why I > > wrote > > > > that I find that > > > > list very frustrating. Of course, another reason > > is > > > > that I assumed > > > > that there must be deeper story behind those > > points > > > > I wrote, except > > > > I haven't got that far yet (I don't have a plan > > to > > > > stop myself here > > > > with gemstones, don't worry). I'll trust you on > > that > > > > advice about > > > > diamond exactly because I understand that this > > list > > > > is not " the edge > > > > of the world " about criteria for choosing. But > > it is > > > > nice to find > > > > out at the same time that I can advice diamond > > to a > > > > friend of mine > > > > who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is in 9th > > bhava. If > > > > I am o.k. she > > > > is going to bloom with diamond. As I understand > > in > > > > her case there is > > > > no single reason to avoid it. > > > > > > > > 2. Well I am at the kinder garden level with > > > > gemstones. I just play > > > === message truncated === > > > > ________________ > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > http://www.flickr.com/gift/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 <My import is following: as I have heard so far Blue Sapphire and Green Emerald are rarely on the list of gemstones to be advised for strengthening.> I have been advised by Sanjayji to wear good three carat Emerald to strengthen my Mercury. I have been wearing the stone since then Thanks for your time and patience... Best Regards Manoj --- Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > Dear Manoj, > Namaste > > But nobody tried to hurt you... I don't see a reason > for such > reaction. > > Can I try to explain it myself for second time? > > If I have your permission, than read rest of this > email, please. > > Yes, you are right about badhakesh being unfavorable > for a gemstone > choice. It is true. But Rafal was explaining one > specific case where > it could be advised. If badhakesh in your chart is > as strong as you > describe it, than wearing a gemstone for that graha > is far from > recommendable. > > My import is following: as I have heard so far Blue > Sapphire and > Green Emerald are rarely on the list of gemstones to > be advised for > strengthening. There are different opinions about > this of course, > but this one has a strong chance to be from Sanjay > Rath. I think I > have obligation to add that I did not hear this > directly from him. > > God bless you too dear Manoj. > > Best regards, > Maja > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > sohamsa , Manoj Sharma > <manojsharma662000 > wrote: > > > > <Because of this fact your example can have some > weak > > points at the very beginning to be discussed with > > Rafal.> > > My apologies; but I could not understand the > precise > > import of this sentence. I do not want to discuss > > anything with anybody...and discuss what????My > chart? > > At this age and stage of life, I feel very blessed > > that God is kind enough to give me two square > meals > > everyday. Although I do aspire more than two > square > > meals, I won't mind if I do not get it. I am > trying to > > rise beyond my aspirations so that I can do my > karma > > in a very detached manner. I guess I have got some > > success in that of late. I want to continue with > > it...so as long as my situation does not worsen, I > do > > not intend to discuss my chart with anybody. I > feel > > very blessed for what my situation is right now. > > God bless you and Rafalji... > > Regards > > --- Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro wrote: > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > Namaste dear Manoj, > > > > > > I don't like to give comments on advices from > other > > > lineages, but > > > here I would just add that Blue Sapphire is > rarely > > > advised at all to > > > increase Sani's effects (I understand that there > are > > > Jyotishas who > > > advice wearing this stone, o.k. no problem). > Because > > > of this fact > > > your example can have some weak points at the > very > > > beginning to be > > > discussed with Rafal. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Maja > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , Manoj Sharma > > > <manojsharma662000@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > In my experience, bhadhkesh always gives > malefic > > > > results, regardless of its placements. In my > case, > > > > Taurus lagna, with Saturn being ninth and > tenth > > > lord > > > > is in 11th house. So Saturn is bhadhkesh for > > > Taurus > > > > lagna, but it is nicely placed. It is very > > > powerful in > > > > Navamsha and in Rashi chart as well. But still > it > > > gave > > > > me very very malefic results during its > Mahadasha. > > > I > > > > barely survived during Saturn Mahadasha. In my > > > > conversation with Sanjayji, he also kind of > > > confirmed > > > > that Saturn, because of beingbhadhkesh, did > not > > > give > > > > me benefic results. > > > > So Rafalji's statement that bhadhkesh if in > beneic > > > > house gives benefic results is not very > > > convincing. I > > > > have also found this to be in other charts in > > > addition > > > > to my own example. > > > > Thanks > > > > Manoj > > > > --- 108ar <bona_mente@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > Thanks for your response- I've seen > baadhakesh > > > in > > > > > 12th /giving it to others, as we learned/ in > > > > > its`period being very challenging. My bdk. > > > period, > > > > > of Venus in sixth /mks/ was mostly > 'profitable' > > > for > > > > > me. perid of Sa AD /lord of 7th and 8th/ was > bad > > > > > health-wise, but Sa aspects Ve in rashi. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Rafal Gendarz > > > > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: > > > > > Choosing Gemstones (Rafal Ji) > > > > > sohamsa > > > > > Sunday, July 13, 2008, 6:27 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kleem namah narasimhaaya > > > > > Dear Anna , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > When badhakesh is unafflicted > (benefic/strong/ > > > 12H) > > > > > then it takes away the obstacles and from > that > > > > > perspective its positive. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > > > com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 108ar pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === ________________ Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Mail: http://ca.promos./newmail/overview2/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Dear Manoj, Namaste I am glad that my patience, tolerance and time pay out after all. Yes, this can happen sometimes. Two different information in line. The only case where those two gemstones are advised, as I have heard so far (I repeat again, not directly from Sanjay Ji), is when person is in celibacy. That is why it is rarely advised. Is this maybe your case? You are most welcome. Again, God bless you. Best regards, Maja Hari Om Tat Sat sohamsa , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote: > > <My import is following: as I have heard so far Blue > Sapphire and Green Emerald are rarely on the list of > gemstones to be advised for strengthening.> > I have been advised by Sanjayji to wear good three > carat Emerald to strengthen my Mercury. I have been > wearing the stone since then > Thanks for your time and patience... > Best Regards > Manoj > --- Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro wrote: > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Manoj, > > Namaste > > > > But nobody tried to hurt you... I don't see a reason > > for such > > reaction. > > > > Can I try to explain it myself for second time? > > > > If I have your permission, than read rest of this > > email, please. > > > > Yes, you are right about badhakesh being unfavorable > > for a gemstone > > choice. It is true. But Rafal was explaining one > > specific case where > > it could be advised. If badhakesh in your chart is > > as strong as you > > describe it, than wearing a gemstone for that graha > > is far from > > recommendable. > > > > My import is following: as I have heard so far Blue > > Sapphire and > > Green Emerald are rarely on the list of gemstones to > > be advised for > > strengthening. There are different opinions about > > this of course, > > but this one has a strong chance to be from Sanjay > > Rath. I think I > > have obligation to add that I did not hear this > > directly from him. > > > > God bless you too dear Manoj. > > > > Best regards, > > Maja > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > sohamsa , Manoj Sharma > > <manojsharma662000@> > > wrote: > > > > > > <Because of this fact your example can have some > > weak > > > points at the very beginning to be discussed with > > > Rafal.> > > > My apologies; but I could not understand the > > precise > > > import of this sentence. I do not want to discuss > > > anything with anybody...and discuss what????My > > chart? > > > At this age and stage of life, I feel very blessed > > > that God is kind enough to give me two square > > meals > > > everyday. Although I do aspire more than two > > square > > > meals, I won't mind if I do not get it. I am > > trying to > > > rise beyond my aspirations so that I can do my > > karma > > > in a very detached manner. I guess I have got some > > > success in that of late. I want to continue with > > > it...so as long as my situation does not worsen, I > > do > > > not intend to discuss my chart with anybody. I > > feel > > > very blessed for what my situation is right now. > > > God bless you and Rafalji... > > > Regards > > > --- Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@> wrote: > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste dear Manoj, > > > > > > > > I don't like to give comments on advices from > > other > > > > lineages, but > > > > here I would just add that Blue Sapphire is > > rarely > > > > advised at all to > > > > increase Sani's effects (I understand that there > > are > > > > Jyotishas who > > > > advice wearing this stone, o.k. no problem). > > Because > > > > of this fact > > > > your example can have some weak points at the > > very > > > > beginning to be > > > > discussed with Rafal. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Maja > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , Manoj Sharma > > > > <manojsharma662000@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In my experience, bhadhkesh always gives > > malefic > > > > > results, regardless of its placements. In my > > case, > > > > > Taurus lagna, with Saturn being ninth and > > tenth > > > > lord > > > > > is in 11th house. So Saturn is bhadhkesh for > > > > Taurus > > > > > lagna, but it is nicely placed. It is very > > > > powerful in > > > > > Navamsha and in Rashi chart as well. But still > > it > > > > gave > > > > > me very very malefic results during its > > Mahadasha. > > > > I > > > > > barely survived during Saturn Mahadasha. In my > > > > > conversation with Sanjayji, he also kind of > > > > confirmed > > > > > that Saturn, because of beingbhadhkesh, did > > not > > > > give > > > > > me benefic results. > > > > > So Rafalji's statement that bhadhkesh if in > > beneic > > > > > house gives benefic results is not very > > > > convincing. I > > > > > have also found this to be in other charts in > > > > addition > > > > > to my own example. > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Manoj > > > > > --- 108ar <bona_mente@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > Thanks for your response- I've seen > > baadhakesh > > > > in > > > > > > 12th /giving it to others, as we learned/ in > > > > > > its`period being very challenging. My bdk. > > > > period, > > > > > > of Venus in sixth /mks/ was mostly > > 'profitable' > > > > for > > > > > > me. perid of Sa AD /lord of 7th and 8th/ was > > bad > > > > > > health-wise, but Sa aspects Ve in rashi. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: > > > > > > Choosing Gemstones (Rafal Ji) > > > > > > sohamsa > > > > > > Sunday, July 13, 2008, 6:27 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kleem namah narasimhaaya > > > > > > Dear Anna , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > When badhakesh is unafflicted > > (benefic/strong/ > > > > 12H) > > > > > > then it takes away the obstacles and from > > that > > > > > > perspective its positive. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > > > > com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 108ar pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > ________________ > Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Mail: http://ca.promos./newmail/overview2/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Maja, Namaskar Panna can be worn after one year of marriage. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Maja Strbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Manoj, Namaste I am glad that my patience, tolerance and time pay out after all. Yes, this can happen sometimes. Two different information in line. The only case where those two gemstones are advised, as I have heard so far (I repeat again, not directly from Sanjay Ji), is when person is in celibacy. That is why it is rarely advised. Is this maybe your case? You are most welcome. Again, God bless you. Best regards, Maja Hari Om Tat Sat sohamsa , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote: > > <My import is following: as I have heard so far Blue > Sapphire and Green Emerald are rarely on the list of > gemstones to be advised for strengthening.> > I have been advised by Sanjayji to wear good three > carat Emerald to strengthen my Mercury. I have been > wearing the stone since then > Thanks for your time and patience... > Best Regards > Manoj > --- Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro wrote: > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Manoj, > > Namaste > > > > But nobody tried to hurt you... I don't see a reason > > for such > > reaction. > > > > Can I try to explain it myself for second time? > > > > If I have your permission, than read rest of this > > email, please. > > > > Yes, you are right about badhakesh being unfavorable > > for a gemstone > > choice. It is true. But Rafal was explaining one > > specific case where > > it could be advised. If badhakesh in your chart is > > as strong as you > > describe it, than wearing a gemstone for that graha > > is far from > > recommendable. > > > > My import is following: as I have heard so far Blue > > Sapphire and > > Green Emerald are rarely on the list of gemstones to > > be advised for > > strengthening. There are different opinions about > > this of course, > > but this one has a strong chance to be from Sanjay > > Rath. I think I > > have obligation to add that I did not hear this > > directly from him. > > > > God bless you too dear Manoj. > > > > Best regards, > > Maja > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > sohamsa , Manoj Sharma > > <manojsharma662000@> > > wrote: > > > > > > <Because of this fact your example can have some > > weak > > > points at the very beginning to be discussed with > > > Rafal.> > > > My apologies; but I could not understand the > > precise > > > import of this sentence. I do not want to discuss > > > anything with anybody...and discuss what????My > > chart? > > > At this age and stage of life, I feel very blessed > > > that God is kind enough to give me two square > > meals > > > everyday. Although I do aspire more than two > > square > > > meals, I won't mind if I do not get it. I am > > trying to > > > rise beyond my aspirations so that I can do my > > karma > > > in a very detached manner. I guess I have got some > > > success in that of late. I want to continue with > > > it...so as long as my situation does not worsen, I > > do > > > not intend to discuss my chart with anybody. I > > feel > > > very blessed for what my situation is right now. > > > God bless you and Rafalji... > > > Regards > > > --- Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@> wrote: > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste dear Manoj, > > > > > > > > I don't like to give comments on advices from > > other > > > > lineages, but > > > > here I would just add that Blue Sapphire is > > rarely > > > > advised at all to > > > > increase Sani's effects (I understand that there > > are > > > > Jyotishas who > > > > advice wearing this stone, o.k. no problem). > > Because > > > > of this fact > > > > your example can have some weak points at the > > very > > > > beginning to be > > > > discussed with Rafal. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Maja > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , Manoj Sharma > > > > <manojsharma662000@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In my experience, bhadhkesh always gives > > malefic > > > > > results, regardless of its placements. In my > > case, > > > > > Taurus lagna, with Saturn being ninth and > > tenth > > > > lord > > > > > is in 11th house. So Saturn is bhadhkesh for > > > > Taurus > > > > > lagna, but it is nicely placed. It is very > > > > powerful in > > > > > Navamsha and in Rashi chart as well. But still > > it > > > > gave > > > > > me very very malefic results during its > > Mahadasha. > > > > I > > > > > barely survived during Saturn Mahadasha. In my > > > > > conversation with Sanjayji, he also kind of > > > > confirmed > > > > > that Saturn, because of beingbhadhkesh, did > > not > > > > give > > > > > me benefic results. > > > > > So Rafalji's statement that bhadhkesh if in > > beneic > > > > > house gives benefic results is not very > > > > convincing. I > > > > > have also found this to be in other charts in > > > > addition > > > > > to my own example. > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Manoj > > > > > --- 108ar <bona_mente@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > Thanks for your response- I've seen > > baadhakesh > > > > in > > > > > > 12th /giving it to others, as we learned/ in > > > > > > its`period being very challenging. My bdk. > > > > period, > > > > > > of Venus in sixth /mks/ was mostly > > 'profitable' > > > > for > > > > > > me. perid of Sa AD /lord of 7th and 8th/ was > > bad > > > > > > health-wise, but Sa aspects Ve in rashi. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: > > > > > > Choosing Gemstones (Rafal Ji) > > > > > > sohamsa > > > > > > Sunday, July 13, 2008, 6:27 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kleem namah narasimhaaya > > > > > > Dear Anna , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > When badhakesh is unafflicted > > (benefic/strong/ > > > > 12H) > > > > > > then it takes away the obstacles and from > > that > > > > > > perspective its positive. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > > > > com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 108ar pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > ________ > Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Mail: http://ca.promos./newmail/overview2/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 I am repeating what Sanjayji had told me: " Emerald in little finger is prescribed for people who are supposed to observe celibacy. Otherwise, it should always be prescribed in Karma finger (which many people identify as Saturn finger). " And, no I am not celibate. I am happily married for the last six years. Thanks for your time and patience. Manoj --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > Panna can be worn after one year of marriage. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Manoj, > > Namaste > > > > I am glad that my patience, tolerance and time pay > out after all. > > > > Yes, this can happen sometimes. Two different > information in line. > > > > The only case where those two gemstones are > advised, as I have heard > > so far (I repeat again, not directly from Sanjay > Ji), is when person > > is in celibacy. That is why it is rarely advised. > Is this maybe your > > case? > > > > You are most welcome. > > Again, God bless you. > > > > Best regards, > > Maja > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > sohamsa > <sohamsa%40>, > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > > wrote: > > > > > > <My import is following: as I have heard so far > Blue > > > Sapphire and Green Emerald are rarely on the > list of > > > gemstones to be advised for strengthening.> > > > I have been advised by Sanjayji to wear good > three > > > carat Emerald to strengthen my Mercury. I have > been > > > wearing the stone since then > > > Thanks for your time and patience... > > > Best Regards > > > Manoj > > > --- Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro wrote: > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Manoj, > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > But nobody tried to hurt you... I don't see a > reason > > > > for such > > > > reaction. > > > > > > > > Can I try to explain it myself for second > time? > > > > > > > > If I have your permission, than read rest of > this > > > > email, please. > > > > > > > > Yes, you are right about badhakesh being > unfavorable > > > > for a gemstone > > > > choice. It is true. But Rafal was explaining > one > > > > specific case where > > > > it could be advised. If badhakesh in your > chart is > > > > as strong as you > > > > describe it, than wearing a gemstone for that > graha > > > > is far from > > > > recommendable. > > > > > > > > My import is following: as I have heard so far > Blue > > > > Sapphire and > > > > Green Emerald are rarely on the list of > gemstones to > > > > be advised for > > > > strengthening. There are different opinions > about > > > > this of course, > > > > but this one has a strong chance to be from > Sanjay > > > > Rath. I think I > > > > have obligation to add that I did not hear > this > > > > directly from him. > > > > > > > > God bless you too dear Manoj. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Maja > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > sohamsa > <sohamsa%40>, > > Manoj Sharma > > > > <manojsharma662000@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > <Because of this fact your example can have > some > > > > weak > > > > > points at the very beginning to be discussed > with > > > > > Rafal.> > > > > > My apologies; but I could not understand the > > > > precise > > > > > import of this sentence. I do not want to > discuss > > > > > anything with anybody...and discuss > what????My > > > > chart? > > > > > At this age and stage of life, I feel very > blessed > > > > > that God is kind enough to give me two > square > > > > meals > > > > > everyday. Although I do aspire more than two > > > > square > > > > > meals, I won't mind if I do not get it. I am > > > > trying to > > > > > rise beyond my aspirations so that I can do > my > > > > karma > > > > > in a very detached manner. I guess I have > got some > > > > > success in that of late. I want to continue > with > > > > > it...so as long as my situation does not > worsen, I > > > > do > > > > > not intend to discuss my chart with anybody. > I > > > > feel > > > > > very blessed for what my situation is right > now. > > > > > God bless you and Rafalji... > > > > > Regards > > > > > --- Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Namaste dear Manoj, > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't like to give comments on advices > from > > > > other > > > > > > lineages, but > > > > > > here I would just add that Blue Sapphire > is > > > > rarely > > > > > > advised at all to > > > > > > increase Sani's effects (I understand that > there > > > > are > > > > > > Jyotishas who > > > > > > advice wearing this stone, o.k. no > problem). > > > > Because > > > > > > of this fact > > > > > > your example can have some weak points at > the > > > > very > > > > > > beginning to be > > > > > > discussed with Rafal. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Maja > > > > > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > <sohamsa%40>, Manoj Sharma > > > > > > <manojsharma662000@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my experience, bhadhkesh always gives > > > > malefic > > > > > > > results, regardless of its placements. > In === message truncated === ________________ Be smarter than spam. 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Guest guest Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal Ji, Namaste Thank you very much for clearing it out. Same thing for your email on Sani/Mangal thread (no need to write two separate emails). Regards, Maja Hari Om Tat Sat sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > Panna can be worn after one year of marriage. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Manoj, > > Namaste > > > > I am glad that my patience, tolerance and time pay out after all. > > > > Yes, this can happen sometimes. Two different information in line. > > > > The only case where those two gemstones are advised, as I have heard > > so far (I repeat again, not directly from Sanjay Ji), is when person > > is in celibacy. That is why it is rarely advised. Is this maybe your > > case? > > > > You are most welcome. > > Again, God bless you. > > > > Best regards, > > Maja > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@> > > wrote: > > > > > > <My import is following: as I have heard so far Blue > > > Sapphire and Green Emerald are rarely on the list of > > > gemstones to be advised for strengthening.> > > > I have been advised by Sanjayji to wear good three > > > carat Emerald to strengthen my Mercury. I have been > > > wearing the stone since then > > > Thanks for your time and patience... > > > Best Regards > > > Manoj > > > --- Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@> wrote: > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Manoj, > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > But nobody tried to hurt you... I don't see a reason > > > > for such > > > > reaction. > > > > > > > > Can I try to explain it myself for second time? > > > > > > > > If I have your permission, than read rest of this > > > > email, please. > > > > > > > > Yes, you are right about badhakesh being unfavorable > > > > for a gemstone > > > > choice. It is true. But Rafal was explaining one > > > > specific case where > > > > it could be advised. If badhakesh in your chart is > > > > as strong as you > > > > describe it, than wearing a gemstone for that graha > > > > is far from > > > > recommendable. > > > > > > > > My import is following: as I have heard so far Blue > > > > Sapphire and > > > > Green Emerald are rarely on the list of gemstones to > > > > be advised for > > > > strengthening. There are different opinions about > > > > this of course, > > > > but this one has a strong chance to be from Sanjay > > > > Rath. I think I > > > > have obligation to add that I did not hear this > > > > directly from him. > > > > > > > > God bless you too dear Manoj. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Maja > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > Manoj Sharma > > > > <manojsharma662000@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > <Because of this fact your example can have some > > > > weak > > > > > points at the very beginning to be discussed with > > > > > Rafal.> > > > > > My apologies; but I could not understand the > > > > precise > > > > > import of this sentence. I do not want to discuss > > > > > anything with anybody...and discuss what????My > > > > chart? > > > > > At this age and stage of life, I feel very blessed > > > > > that God is kind enough to give me two square > > > > meals > > > > > everyday. Although I do aspire more than two > > > > square > > > > > meals, I won't mind if I do not get it. I am > > > > trying to > > > > > rise beyond my aspirations so that I can do my > > > > karma > > > > > in a very detached manner. I guess I have got some > > > > > success in that of late. I want to continue with > > > > > it...so as long as my situation does not worsen, I > > > > do > > > > > not intend to discuss my chart with anybody. I > > > > feel > > > > > very blessed for what my situation is right now. > > > > > God bless you and Rafalji... > > > > > Regards > > > > > --- Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Namaste dear Manoj, > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't like to give comments on advices from > > > > other > > > > > > lineages, but > > > > > > here I would just add that Blue Sapphire is > > > > rarely > > > > > > advised at all to > > > > > > increase Sani's effects (I understand that there > > > > are > > > > > > Jyotishas who > > > > > > advice wearing this stone, o.k. no problem). > > > > Because > > > > > > of this fact > > > > > > your example can have some weak points at the > > > > very > > > > > > beginning to be > > > > > > discussed with Rafal. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Maja > > > > > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > <sohamsa%40>, Manoj Sharma > > > > > > <manojsharma662000@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my experience, bhadhkesh always gives > > > > malefic > > > > > > > results, regardless of its placements. In my > > > > case, > > > > > > > Taurus lagna, with Saturn being ninth and > > > > tenth > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > is in 11th house. So Saturn is bhadhkesh for > > > > > > Taurus > > > > > > > lagna, but it is nicely placed. It is very > > > > > > powerful in > > > > > > > Navamsha and in Rashi chart as well. But still > > > > it > > > > > > gave > > > > > > > me very very malefic results during its > > > > Mahadasha. > > > > > > I > > > > > > > barely survived during Saturn Mahadasha. In my > > > > > > > conversation with Sanjayji, he also kind of > > > > > > confirmed > > > > > > > that Saturn, because of beingbhadhkesh, did > > > > not > > > > > > give > > > > > > > me benefic results. > > > > > > > So Rafalji's statement that bhadhkesh if in > > > > beneic > > > > > > > house gives benefic results is not very > > > > > > convincing. I > > > > > > > have also found this to be in other charts in > > > > > > addition > > > > > > > to my own example. > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > --- 108ar <bona_mente@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your response- I've seen > > > > baadhakesh > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > 12th /giving it to others, as we learned/ in > > > > > > > > its`period being very challenging. My bdk. > > > > > > period, > > > > > > > > of Venus in sixth /mks/ was mostly > > > > 'profitable' > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > me. perid of Sa AD /lord of 7th and 8th/ was > > > > bad > > > > > > > > health-wise, but Sa aspects Ve in rashi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: > > > > > > > > Choosing Gemstones (Rafal Ji) > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40> > > > > > > > > Sunday, July 13, 2008, 6:27 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kleem namah narasimhaaya > > > > > > > > Dear Anna , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When badhakesh is unafflicted > > > > (benefic/strong/ > > > > > > 12H) > > > > > > > > then it takes away the obstacles and from > > > > that > > > > > > > > perspective its positive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: > > > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > > > > > > com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 108ar pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All > > new Mail: http://ca.promos./newmail/overview2/ > > <http://ca.promos./newmail/overview2/> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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