Guest guest Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Respected Rafal Ji Namskar! I tried so hard to understand the D-9 I think which is called Bhagyamsa also.But still confused. In my D-9 gemini lagna is rising and venus is in lagna. rahu in 12th and ma and su in 2nd, mo and ju in 9th and shani is vakri in 4th. Me in 8th house. What is meaning of it? I am newcomer and want to learn jyotish and listen lectures of Guruji for D-9 continues. But I m not getting this clear. So can u giv me little advise on the issue...... With respect Naresh Mamgain--- On Sat, 12/7/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: Jagannath Drekkana questionsohamsa Date: Saturday, 12 July, 2008, 5:50 AM kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Sundeep, NamaskarD3 is more for direction of initiatives, what you must do (6) to activate karma (from 10). D10 is more for all works available to the native. D9 shows for what things you are blessed. The difference between d1, d3 and d9 is seen by learning Yogadas (Parasara). From these three we examine the overall influence of yogas on one's life, other vargas are more for detailed area (technical aspects like d10 shows job etc).Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comvedicastrostudent pisze: Dear Gurus and members,It is said that Jagannath Drekkana gives karmaphaala. Is this really true i.e. the fruit of karma? That doesnt sound right, because how can the varga for the 3rd house, an upachaya and free will house, actually show the *fruits*? Then there would be no free will right, because the fruits are known at birth, since this is the natal chart? I assume that Jn Drekkana only shows the direction of individual efforts, right? vs. D-9 which shows inherent ability. This also brings up another question about D-10 i.e. if D-3 is direction of individual effort, and D-9 which is inherent ability, then what exactly is D-10. Rafalji said "karmaviveka" somewhere, I forget exactly where, but I would like that explained in some detail.thank you very much,Sundeep Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Naresh, Namaskar If Venus is in Lagna then person is very strong inwardly, has eye on details, get angry easily but also get calm quickly, good at entertainment is interested in arts and culture and very romantic/emotional in lovelife (moon adds to it). Guru gets dhana yoga and if Lagna is right person gets money from mother/other (elder) women/forumsfood/clothes. Rahu in twelfth is bad for health and in Rahu periods can give challenges to health. Rahu will also bless with interest for microprocesors/computers/electronics/math/Ganita (astronomy) etc. Ma and Su in second will give again some kind of communication and yoga (knowledge about body and history is also involved) talent but the main one is related to Shukra and Rahu. Mo and Ju in ninth gives quite good relationship with Guru - this alone is blessing. Budha in eight gives problem related to relationship when the important steps in career are experienced, they can also be communication problems. Then one also shouuld see relation between D1 and D9 Lagnas. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal naresh mamgain pisze: Respected Rafal Ji Namskar! I tried so hard to understand the D-9 I think which is called Bhagyamsa also.But still confused. In my D-9 gemini lagna is rising and venus is in lagna. rahu in 12th and ma and su in 2nd, mo and ju in 9th and shani is vakri in 4th. Me in 8th house. What is meaning of it? I am newcomer and want to learn jyotish and listen lectures of Guruji for D-9 continues. But I m not getting this clear. So can u giv me little advise on the issue......  With respect Naresh Mamgain --- On Sat, 12/7/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> Re: Jagannath Drekkana question sohamsa@ .com Saturday, 12 July, 2008, 5:50 AM kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Sundeep, Namaskar D3 is more for direction of initiatives, what you must do (6) to activate karma (from 10). D10 is more for all works available to the native. D9 shows for what things you are blessed. The difference between d1, d3 and d9 is seen by learning Yogadas (Parasara). From these three we examine the overall influence of yogas on one's life, other vargas are more for detailed area (technical aspects like d10 shows job etc). Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com vedicastrostudent pisze: Dear Gurus and members, It is said that Jagannath Drekkana gives karmaphaala. Is this really true i.e. the fruit of karma? That doesnt sound right, because how can the varga for the 3rd house, an upachaya and free will house, actually show the *fruits*? Then there would be no free will right, because the fruits are known at birth, since this is the natal chart? I assume that Jn Drekkana only shows the direction of individual efforts, right? vs. D-9 which shows inherent ability. This also brings up another question about D-10 i.e. if D-3 is direction of individual effort, and D-9 which is inherent ability, then what exactly is D-10. Rafalji said "karmaviveka" somewhere, I forget exactly where, but I would like that explained in some detail. thank you very much, Sundeep Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 --- On Sat, 12/7/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: understand D-9sohamsa Date: Saturday, 12 July, 2008, 1:22 PM kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Naresh, NamaskarIf Venus is in Lagna then person is very strong inwardly, has eye on details, get angry easily but also get calm quickly, good at entertainment is interested in arts and culture and very romantic/emotional in lovelife (moon adds to it). ATONCE ACCURATE! Guru gets dhana yoga and if Lagna is right person gets money from mother/other (elder) women/forums/ group/food/ clothes. THIS THING DOES NOT MATCH WITH ME BCS I BELONG TO VERY POOR FAMILY Rahu in twelfth is bad for health and in Rahu periods can give challenges to health. AGAIN PERFECT MATCH Rahu will also bless with interest for microprocesors/ computers/ electronics/ math/Ganita (astronomy) etc. THIS THING IS FIFTY-FIFTY Ma and Su in second will give again some kind of communication and yoga (knowledge about body and history is also involved) talent but the main one is related to Shukra and Rahu. CORRECT ...Mo and Ju in ninth gives quite good relationship with Guru - this alone is blessing. RAFAL JI THIS IS SUPERB BUT SOMETIMES IN MY MIND DISRECPECTS COMES FOR GURU. I THINK RAHU IS THE CAUSE FOR IT. BECAUSE RAHU IS EXALTED IN MITHUNA (3RD HOUSE) IN D-10.Budha in eight gives problem related to relationship when the important steps in career are experienced, they can also be communication problems. THIS IS CORRECT ALSO Then one also shouuld see relation between D1 and D9 Lagnas. ANYHOW THANKS A LOT TO GIVE ME YOUR VALUABE TIME WITH RESPECT NARESH Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comnaresh mamgain pisze: Respected Rafal Ji Namskar! I tried so hard to understand the D-9 I think which is called Bhagyamsa also.But still confused. In my D-9 gemini lagna is rising and venus is in lagna. rahu in 12th and ma and su in 2nd, mo and ju in 9th and shani is vakri in 4th. Me in 8th house. What is meaning of it? I am newcomer and want to learn jyotish and listen lectures of Guruji for D-9 continues. But I m not getting this clear. So can u giv me little advise on the issue...... With respect Naresh Mamgain--- On Sat, 12/7/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: Jagannath Drekkana questionsohamsa@ .comSaturday, 12 July, 2008, 5:50 AM kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Sundeep, NamaskarD3 is more for direction of initiatives, what you must do (6) to activate karma (from 10). D10 is more for all works available to the native. D9 shows for what things you are blessed. The difference between d1, d3 and d9 is seen by learning Yogadas (Parasara). From these three we examine the overall influence of yogas on one's life, other vargas are more for detailed area (technical aspects like d10 shows job etc).Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comvedicastrostudent pisze: Dear Gurus and members,It is said that Jagannath Drekkana gives karmaphaala. Is this really true i.e. the fruit of karma? That doesnt sound right, because how can the varga for the 3rd house, an upachaya and free will house, actually show the *fruits*? Then there would be no free will right, because the fruits are known at birth, since this is the natal chart? I assume that Jn Drekkana only shows the direction of individual efforts, right? vs. D-9 which shows inherent ability. This also brings up another question about D-10 i.e. if D-3 is direction of individual effort, and D-9 which is inherent ability, then what exactly is D-10. Rafalji said "karmaviveka" somewhere, I forget exactly where, but I would like that explained in some detail.thank you very much,SundeepUnlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Naresh, Namaskar I think Mithuna fits. Could you send me your birthdetails with some important events in life (marriage, childbirths, career history with timings, ailments, foreign travels, financial timings) here or privately? Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal naresh mamgain pisze: --- On Sat, 12/7/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> Re: understand D-9 sohamsa@ .com Saturday, 12 July, 2008, 1:22 PM kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Naresh, Namaskar If Venus is in Lagna then person is very strong inwardly, has eye on details, get angry easily but also get calm quickly, good at entertainment is interested in arts and culture and very romantic/emotional in lovelife (moon adds to it). ATONCE ACCURATE! Guru gets dhana yoga and if Lagna is right person gets money from mother/other (elder) women/forums/ group/food/ clothes. THIS THING DOES NOT MATCH WITH ME BCS I BELONG TO VERY POOR FAMILY Rahu in twelfth is bad for health and in Rahu periods can give challenges to health. AGAIN PERFECT MATCH  Rahu will also bless with interest for microprocesors/ computers/ electronics/ math/Ganita (astronomy) etc. THIS THING IS FIFTY-FIFTY Ma and Su in second will give again some kind of communication and yoga (knowledge about body and history is also involved) talent but the main one is related to Shukra and Rahu. CORRECT ...Mo and Ju in ninth gives quite good relationship with Guru - this alone is blessing. RAFAL JI THIS IS SUPERB BUT SOMETIMES IN MY MIND DISRECPECTS COMES FOR GURU. I THINK RAHU IS THE CAUSE FOR IT. BECAUSE RAHU IS EXALTED IN MITHUNA (3RD HOUSE) IN D-10. Budha in eight gives problem related to relationship when the important steps in career are experienced, they can also be communication problems. THIS IS CORRECT ALSO Then one also shouuld see relation between D1 and D9 Lagnas. ANYHOW THANKS A LOT TO GIVE ME YOUR VALUABE TIME  WITH RESPECT NARESH Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com naresh mamgain pisze: Respected Rafal Ji Namskar! I tried so hard to understand the D-9 I think which is called Bhagyamsa also.But still confused. In my D-9 gemini lagna is rising and venus is in lagna. rahu in 12th and ma and su in 2nd, mo and ju in 9th and shani is vakri in 4th. Me in 8th house. What is meaning of it? I am newcomer and want to learn jyotish and listen lectures of Guruji for D-9 continues. But I m not getting this clear. So can u giv me little advise on the issue......  With respect Naresh Mamgain --- On Sat, 12/7/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> Re: Jagannath Drekkana question sohamsa@ .com Saturday, 12 July, 2008, 5:50 AM kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Sundeep, Namaskar D3 is more for direction of initiatives, what you must do (6) to activate karma (from 10). D10 is more for all works available to the native. D9 shows for what things you are blessed. The difference between d1, d3 and d9 is seen by learning Yogadas (Parasara). From these three we examine the overall influence of yogas on one's life, other vargas are more for detailed area (technical aspects like d10 shows job etc). Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com vedicastrostudent pisze: Dear Gurus and members, It is said that Jagannath Drekkana gives karmaphaala. Is this really true i.e. the fruit of karma? That doesnt sound right, because how can the varga for the 3rd house, an upachaya and free will house, actually show the *fruits*? Then there would be no free will right, because the fruits are known at birth, since this is the natal chart? I assume that Jn Drekkana only shows the direction of individual efforts, right? vs. D-9 which shows inherent ability. This also brings up another question about D-10 i.e. if D-3 is direction of individual effort, and D-9 which is inherent ability, then what exactly is D-10. Rafalji said "karmaviveka" somewhere, I forget exactly where, but I would like that explained in some detail. thank you very much, Sundeep Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 --- On Sat, 12/7/08, naresh mamgain <nareshmamgain wrote: naresh mamgain <nareshmamgainRe: understand D-9sohamsa Date: Saturday, 12 July, 2008, 2:31 PM --- On Sat, 12/7/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: understand D-9sohamsa@ .comSaturday, 12 July, 2008, 1:22 PM kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Naresh, NamaskarIf Venus is in Lagna then person is very strong inwardly, has eye on details, get angry easily but also get calm quickly, good at entertainment is interested in arts and culture and very romantic/emotional in lovelife (moon adds to it). ATONCE ACCURATE! Guru gets dhana yoga and if Lagna is right person gets money from mother/other (elder) women/forums/ group/food/ clothes. THIS THING DOES NOT MATCH WITH ME BCS I BELONG TO VERY POOR FAMILY Rahu in twelfth is bad for health and in Rahu periods can give challenges to health. AGAIN PERFECT MATCH Rahu will also bless with interest for microprocesors/ computers/ electronics/ math/Ganita (astronomy) etc. THIS THING IS FIFTY-FIFTY Ma and Su in second will give again some kind of communication and yoga (knowledge about body and history is also involved) talent but the main one is related to Shukra and Rahu. CORRECT ...Mo and Ju in ninth gives quite good relationship with Guru - this alone is blessing. RAFAL JI THIS IS SUPERB BUT SOMETIMES IN MY MIND DISRECPECTS COMES FOR GURU. I THINK RAHU IS THE CAUSE FOR IT. BECAUSE RAHU IS EXALTED IN MITHUNA (3RD HOUSE) IN D-1.Budha in eight gives problem related to relationship when the important steps in career are experienced, they can also be communication problems. THIS IS CORRECT ALSO Then one also shouuld see relation between D1 and D9 Lagnas. ANYHOW THANKS A LOT TO GIVE ME YOUR VALUABE TIME WITH RESPECT NARESH Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comnaresh mamgain pisze: Respected Rafal Ji Namskar! I tried so hard to understand the D-9 I think which is called Bhagyamsa also.But still confused. In my D-9 gemini lagna is rising and venus is in lagna. rahu in 12th and ma and su in 2nd, mo and ju in 9th and shani is vakri in 4th. Me in 8th house. What is meaning of it? I am newcomer and want to learn jyotish and listen lectures of Guruji for D-9 continues. But I m not getting this clear. So can u giv me little advise on the issue...... With respect Naresh Mamgain--- On Sat, 12/7/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: Jagannath Drekkana questionsohamsa@ .comSaturday, 12 July, 2008, 5:50 AM kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Sundeep, NamaskarD3 is more for direction of initiatives, what you must do (6) to activate karma (from 10). D10 is more for all works available to the native. D9 shows for what things you are blessed. The difference between d1, d3 and d9 is seen by learning Yogadas (Parasara). From these three we examine the overall influence of yogas on one's life, other vargas are more for detailed area (technical aspects like d10 shows job etc).Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comvedicastrostudent pisze: Dear Gurus and members,It is said that Jagannath Drekkana gives karmaphaala. Is this really true i.e. the fruit of karma? That doesnt sound right, because how can the varga for the 3rd house, an upachaya and free will house, actually show the *fruits*? Then there would be no free will right, because the fruits are known at birth, since this is the natal chart? I assume that Jn Drekkana only shows the direction of individual efforts, right? vs. D-9 which shows inherent ability. This also brings up another question about D-10 i.e. if D-3 is direction of individual effort, and D-9 which is inherent ability, then what exactly is D-10. Rafalji said "karmaviveka" somewhere, I forget exactly where, but I would like that explained in some detail.thank you very much,SundeepUnlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it. Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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