(R, noticed we are far from:)Choosing Gemstones(sbjct?)

July 14, 2008

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Rafal Ji,

Namaste

Would it surprise you to learn that basically I am aware of

spiritual point of view? Maybe not with such details who said what

and when, but main point, I am aware of it. Besides, I mostly used

past tenses in my previous email (additional to this, recently I was

through AD/MD that " clicked on " that parivartana in my chart).

Let's say a " regular civilian " who is not involved too much in

spirituality and has family and kids to feed could take such

information very hard. That is my point. You live in a country where

Hinduism is not widely spread religion (so do I). It is hard

to " convert " someone's way of thinking in one hour, which is average

duration of Jyotish reading.

Regards,

Maja

Hari Om Tat Sat

sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> Dear Maja , Namaskar

>

> Srimati Kunti in Bhagavatam prays for the suffering as they bring

closer

> one to God. From spiritual point of view which is the only view

> everything what makes one closer to God its most auspicious.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal

>

> Maja Strbac pisze:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste dear Anna (hey there, another girl!? Welcome!!!),

> >

> > I hope that you are not having a plan to just sit there and read

> > this list. Maybe you could write something yourself from time to

> > time. It would be nice (and useful for learning). Though I think

> > that you wrote something recently, maybe a month ago? Your name

and

> > ID seems familiar to me.

> >

> > I wish if I could help you more about your question. We are both

in

> > the same position I am afraid. I don't know... Right now I am

just

> > holding my fingers crossed and hoping that this explanation we

are

> > both waiting is not about " it is a blessing for spirituality " . My

> > blood pressure is rising when I hear that. One of first few

> > sentences about Jyotish that I have learned was similar to this.

It

> > was regarding my current MD. This person told me " It is bad for

> > health, career, finances... " I asked " until when? " and got

> > reply " Until 2010 " (It was back in February of 2006. Can you

guess

> > how I felt to hear this?). Then he added " But it is great for

> > spirituality " (And it was few months before I have even heard of

> > SJC). I was like " Oh, great, now I feel much better... " (Of

course I

> > was ironic). So, now you know what it means when Jyotisha

predicts a

> > great period for spirituality. For 99% of world wide population

it

> > means that one should start digging hole in the ground and fill

bags

> > with sand. (But it turned out I am ok in " My spirituality " . I

> > started to like it

> >

> > I am waiting with you...

> >

> > P.S. I appreciate people who appreciate honest and open minded

> > people.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Maja

> >

> > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40>,

> > 108ar <bona_mente@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Raphal and Maja,

> > > I am dying to learn why/when 'Badhakesh can be blessing for an

> > individual, as Raphael wrote.

> > > btw. I read all your posts with interest, I appreciate that

> > you both are honest and open-minded astrol's

> > > best wishes,

> > > Anna

> > >

> > > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@>

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones

(Rafal

> > Ji)

> > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>

> > > Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:02 PM

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Namaste dear Rafal Ji,

> > >

> > > Okay... let me finally introduce myself: My name is Maja and I

> > have

> > > no idea yet what is the art design for front page of " Vedic

> > > remedies " by Sanjay Rath, but I am about to find it out till

the

> > end

> > > of this month when friend of mine is supposed to come back from

> > > India with my copy of this book. Nice to meet you too.

> > >

> > > 1. You see, that list of " NO " points are what I have learned so

> > far

> > > about gemstones, so when you take it in consideration, the only

> > > conclusion I can make for now is that there is no suitable

> > gemstone

> > > I can prescribe for any Kanya lagna (including myself, and

(still

> > > only with taking that list in consideration) especially

because of

> > > Sk in trika bhava). That is the reason why I wrote that I find

> > that

> > > list very frustrating. Of course, another reason is that I

assumed

> > > that there must be deeper story behind those points I wrote,

> > except

> > > I haven't got that far yet (I don't have a plan to stop myself

> > here

> > > with gemstones, don't worry). I'll trust you on that advice

about

> > > diamond exactly because I understand that this list is not " the

> > edge

> > > of the world " about criteria for choosing. But it is nice to

find

> > > out at the same time that I can advice diamond to a friend of

mine

> > > who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is in 9th bhava. If I am o.k.

she

> > > is going to bloom with diamond. As I understand in her case

there

> > is

> > > no single reason to avoid it.

> > >

> > > 2. Well I am at the kinder garden level with gemstones. I just

> > play

> > > with that a little. (But mantras are still... There I am a new

born

> > > baby) Right now I am doing everything possible from my

position to

> > > get closer to elementary school. (Don't take personally

following

> > > lines, please. It is nothing pointed to you.) " Badhakesh many

> > times

> > > is blessing to the native " . From the perspective of kinder

garden

> > I

> > > can give no knowledgably comment on this sentence. By the time

I

> > > reach that deeper perspective I just hope that I shall not meet

> > with

> > > explanation that sounds like " If you focus real hard you can

prove

> > > hypothesis that elephant can hang over from a cliff with his

tail

> > > holding to a daisy " , because I ran off from Western Astrology

> > > exactly because of such things. I would take it real hard to

> > > disappoint in Jyotish. That explanation better be very good and

> > > reasonable.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Maja

> > >

> > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > >

> > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@ ...>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > 1. Why is it frustrating for Kanya with Shukra in trika? Do

you

> > > mean it

> > > > takes away the viveka to choose a gem as general or its

> > > problematic to

> > > > choose a gem for you? For your chart its diamond..easy.

> > > >

> > > > 2. In choosing a gem the planet (gem-karaka) should bless one

> > with

> > > the

> > > > material / emotional goods. So dusthana, maraka, badhakesh,

> > neelam

> > > can

> > > > be good depending on a chart - as they can provide goods to

the

> > > native.

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center tries to teach class of astrologers

which

> > > will rise

> > > > above those generalizations like 'dusthana is bad, maraka is

> > bad,

> > > > badhakesh is bad' etc..thats kindergarden astrology.

Badhakesh

> > > many

> > > > times is blessing to the native.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal@

> > > >

> > > > Maja Strbac pisze:

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste dear Rafal ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Ohh... so that was the catch! Thank you very much.

> > > > >

> > > > > It is just that I find following list very frustrating

> > sometimes:

> > > > >

> > > > > Lord of 2nd & 7th, maraka-NO!

> > > > > Lord of 6, 8 & 12th, dustahn-NO!

> > > > > Lord of 3rd & 11th, trika-NO!

> > > > > Graha in dustahn-NO!

> > > > > Graha in trika-NO!

> > > > > Badhakesh-NO!

> > > > > Blue sapphire-NO!

> > > > > Green emerald-NO!

> > > > >

> > > > > (I also find it very frustrating because I am Kanya lagna

with

> > > Sukra

> > > > > in trika bhava

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Maja

> > > > >

> > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

> > > 40. com>,

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > Dear Maja & SS , Namaskar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Usually we perscribe gems for kona lords to increase the

> > rise,

> > > > > fortune

> > > > > > and wealth of native.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here Mangal is unafflicted and wellplaced so it will give

> > > effect

> > > > > of

> > > > > > Lagnesh and not sixth lord.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Instead Shani will give effect of sixth lord giving

problem

> > to

> > > > > pitta and

> > > > > > tridoshic problems of genital area/anus (right side) (82-

91).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> / email:

> > rafal@

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I don't have to write too much, question is same (down

> > there

> > > in

> > > > > > > previous email from SS).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Help us?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Maja

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

> > > 40. com>

> > > > > <sohamsa%

> > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please can you advise why Coral will be appropriate

even

> > > though

> > > > > > > Mars

> > > > > > > > is 6th lord?

> > > > > > > > Is it because it lords 9th from AL?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Many thanx

> > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com> <sohamsa%

> > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the gem

will

> > > > > activate

> > > > > > > it.

> > > > > > > > > Parivartana means that Diamond will activate Bu in

3

> > > from AL

> > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > afflicts career life and skills of native.

> > > > > > > > > 2. Neck influences thinking.

> > > > > > > > > 3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet

> > > forward in

> > > > > > > > kalachakra

> > > > > > > > > scheme.

> > > > > > > > > 4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak.

> > Badhakesh

> > > in

> > > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga

> > > > > > > > > 5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in twelfth. I

> > > follow

> > > > > > > Sanjayji

> > > > > > > > who

> > > > > > > > > also looks at lord when bhava is empty.

> > > > > > > > > 6. We can do everything if we know what we are

doing.

> > > > > Planets in

> > > > > > > > lagna,

> > > > > > > > > fifth and tenth eclipses the others.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>

> > > > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> / email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > rajarshi nandy pisze:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I was trying to understand your advise to Mr

Sunil.

> > It

> > > > > would

> > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > great

> > > > > > > > > > if you could kindly clarify some points which I

> > could

> > > not

> > > > > > > > understand.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th

lord,

> > due

> > > to

> > > > > yuti

> > > > > > > > causing

> > > > > > > > > > exchange of effects?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck?

What

> > > is its

> > > > > > > > significance?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will

give

> > > effects

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > shani.

> > > > > > > > > > Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra?

But i

> > > > > thought

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please

tell me

> > > the

> > > > > exact

> > > > > > > > rule.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa

> > badhaka.

> > > In

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > > case

> > > > > > > > > > shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to

nagraj

> > > temple?

> > > > > Why

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > Krishna idol donation neeeded?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > -Regards

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Rajarshi

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > /*

> > > > > > > > > > * " This above all: to thine own self be true! " -

> > Hamlet*

> > > > > > > > > > */

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@

> > >/*

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >

> > > > > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

Gemstones

> > > > > > > (Sunil)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>

> > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil , Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

com

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > >> Dear Sunil, Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> 1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth

lord

> > > which is

> > > > > > > > > >> negative, but will also improve the finances and

> > > > > > > Chandra..so

> > > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > > >> not perfect. Coral has less side-effects here.

> > > > > > > > > >> 2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for

> > karma.

> > > > > > > > > >> 3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas

signified

> > by

> > > AK.

> > > > > > > Irs

> > > > > > > > also

> > > > > > > > > >> in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL.

> > > > > > > > > >> 4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial

> > > setbacks

> > > > > > > > (rasi)

> > > > > > > > > >> and then improvement (navamsa).

> > > > > > > > > >> 5. Just please try to perform those remedies

which

> > I

> > > have

> > > > > > > > given

> > > > > > > > > >> in the last mail.

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the

> > Sarpa

> > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > >> broken and the ninth lord should be lifted -

> > > Bhuvanesvari.

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu

should be

> > > > > > > remedied

> > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > >> gift of idol/picture related to Sri Krishna.

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> Regards,

> > > > > > > > > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > > >> www: http://rohinaa. com / email:

rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> Sunil Sharma pisze:

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Dear Rafal ji,

> > > > > > > > > >>> Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > >>> Thank you very much for your guidance. I like

to

> > hear

> > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > >>> comments, not just about me, but even regarding

> > other

> > > > > > > > > >>> person/subject

> > > > > > > > > >>> Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however,

still

> > > > > > > wearing

> > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > >>> Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring

> > finger.

> > > > > > > Should

> > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > >>> be removed too? Not that I see any visible

> > difference

> > > > > > > after

> > > > > > > > > >>> wearing it.

> > > > > > > > > >>> I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean

> > Coral

> > > in

> > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > case)

> > > > > > > > > >>> in gold pendant around the neck. Any

suggestions

> > for

> > > > > > > this.

> > > > > > > > > >>> Secondly, someone suggested I should wear

Yellow

> > > > > > > Sapphire to

> > > > > > > > > >>> boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted

due

> > to

> > > > > > > > Rahu's 9th

> > > > > > > > > >>> aspect. Is it appropriate?

> > > > > > > > > >>> As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen

good

> > > period

> > > > > > > > since

> > > > > > > > > >>> the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some

sporadic

> > > gains

> > > > > > > > now and

> > > > > > > > > >>> then but nothing substantial. I would love to

> > change

> > > the

> > > > > > > > > >>> situation, if I can, and solicit your advice in

> > this

> > > > > > > > regard. If

> > > > > > > > > >>> you will be kind enough to please give me a

clear

> > > idea

> > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > >>> can do.

> > > > > > > > > >>> Regards

> > > > > > > > > >>> Sunil

> > > > > > > > > >>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal

Gendarz /<starsuponme@

> > > > > > > wp.pl>/*

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

> > > > > > > Gemstones

> > > > > > > > (Sunil)

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > >>> Dear Sunil , Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh

with

> > > > > > > rahu in

> > > > > > > > > >>> Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna idol/picture

to

> > > > > > > > > >>> temple/spiritual person.

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> You can wear only Coral.

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Left hand is usually for malefic being placed

in

> > > > > > > > third/ninth

> > > > > > > > > >>> - only in dasa of this malefic - instead use

right

> > > > > > > hand

> > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > >>> fortune-gem.

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari

Sadhana

> > and

> > > > > > > > > >>> worship Hanumanji sincerly!

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be

troublesome

> > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > > >>> the strength period (neechavastha) , after

initial

> > > > > > > > struggle

> > > > > > > > > >>> there should be improvement due to exaltation

in

> > d9.

> > > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > >>> period works for spirituality a lot due to

> > karakaamsa

> > > > > > > > > >>> position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra

and

> > > > > > > being

> > > > > > > > GK

> > > > > > > > > >>> it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava

will

> > be

> > > > > > > > > >>> strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and

fact

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > Mo

> > > > > > > > > >>> in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H).

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Regards,

> > > > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > > >>> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa.

com/

> > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/>

> > > > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/ <http://www.rohinaa.

com/>>> /

> > > > > > > > email:

> > > > > > > > > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ >

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Sunil Sharma pisze:

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Dear Maja,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> I fully appreciate your openness about various

> > > > > > > > observations

> > > > > > > > > >>>> made so far. At least you are better than me

when

> > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > say

> > > > > > > > > >>>> few charts are clear to you. To me all of them

> > look

> > > > > > > > confusing.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> My birth data is as follows:

> > > > > > > > > >>>> DOB: 21st September 1955

> > > > > > > > > >>>> TOB: 10:32 A.M.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Like I said earlier, take your time about it.

I am

> > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > in a

> > > > > > > > > >>>> hurry.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Sunil

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08,

> > > > > > > majastrbacastro /<majastrbacastro@

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > <majastrbaca stro@>/* wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> <majastrbaca stro@>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

> > > > > > > Gemstones

> > > > > > > > (Sunil)

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Dear Sunil,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Namaste

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> My decision

> > > > > > > > > >>>> to wear that gift I received has nothing to do

> > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > >>>> procedure of determining proper gemstone It

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > just that I wear

> > > > > > > > > >>>> jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > very entertaining

> > > > > > > > > >>>> to learn about gemstones (not just for past

two

> > > > > > > > days), for past

> > > > > > > > > >>>> month or two I had a few dialogues regarding

> > > > > > > same

> > > > > > > > kind of ring that

> > > > > > > > > >>>> you are wearing right now, and it turned out

it

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > not suitable for

> > > > > > > > > >>>> me when I was about to buy one. What happened

> > > > > > > > yesterday I consider

> > > > > > > > > >>>> it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it

for

> > > > > > > > few months. (If I

> > > > > > > > > >>>> suddenly disappear from list it will mean that

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > was a wrong

> > > > > > > > > >>>> decision

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Anyway, please give me your birth data. I

would

> > > > > > > > like to look at

> > > > > > > > > >>>> whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to

> > > > > > > > take it just as an

> > > > > > > > > >>>> opinion. As I have said on the beginning of

> > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > thread I am not

> > > > > > > > > >>>> quite skilled with this issue, so have this

> > > > > > > > > >>>> in mind (Though it was

> > > > > > > > > >>>> not so difficult for me to say that ruby is

> > > > > > > proper

> > > > > > > > > >>>> gemstone for

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not

so

> > > > > > > > confusing as they

> > > > > > > > > >>>> often could be in various charts. When

> > > > > > > positions

> > > > > > > > in chart are

> > > > > > > > > >>>> complicated I choose to say " I don't know "

> > > > > > > rather

> > > > > > > > than to ruin

> > > > > > > > > >>>> someone's life.)

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Maja

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> , Sunil

> > > > > > > > Sharma

> > > > > > > > > >>>> <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Dear Maja,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > I have been reading each and every message

on

> > > > > > > > this thread and, at

> > > > > > > > > >>>> the outset, was surprised to read about

> > > > > > > Neeraj's

> > > > > > > > observations.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> However, things became quite clear later on

> > > > > > > > especially with your

> > > > > > > > > >>>> comments on antardasha.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Your very last sentence in your last mail

> > > > > > > (even

> > > > > > > > though chandra is

> > > > > > > > > >>>> not lording my trines) caught my attention.

> > > > > > > > Debilitated chandra (in

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my

> > > > > > > > chart with exalted

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu

> > > > > > > conjoining

> > > > > > > > moon in

> > > > > > > > > >>>> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th

> > > > > > > > > >>>> house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY

> > > > > > > > > >>>> or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So,

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > net result is

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already

> > > > > > > > afflicted due to

> > > > > > > > > >>>> debilitation) is afflicted. All this is

> > > > > > > something

> > > > > > > > I have been told

> > > > > > > > > >>>> by various astrologers (not necessarily all at

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > same time).

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and

> > > > > > > Diamond

> > > > > > > > to me. I am still

> > > > > > > > > >>>> wearing diamond in silver ring on my right

hand

> > > > > > > > ring finger

> > > > > > > > > >>>> (presently going through Venus dasha), and

> > > > > > > Coral

> > > > > > > > in gold pendant in

> > > > > > > > > >>>> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring

earlier

> > > > > > > > but changed it to a

> > > > > > > > > >>>> pendant and wore it in the neck in a black

> > > > > > > string.

> > > > > > > > I have since

> > > > > > > > > >>>> removed it but I must say that whenever I wear

> > > > > > > > Pearl it quietens my

> > > > > > > > > >>>> temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any

> > > > > > > > improvement in my

> > > > > > > > > >>>> career or financial aspects.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Now, my real question to you is

> > > > > > > > > >>>> this. Moon being afflicted and

> > > > > > > > > >>>> left hand to be used (for the effect to be

> > > > > > > > reduced), I should

> > > > > > > > > >>>> have

> > > > > > > > > >>>> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger?

You

> > > > > > > > may take few days to

> > > > > > > > > >>>> reply! I am not in a hurry.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Regards

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Sunil

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro

> > > > > > > > <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

> > > > > > > > Gemstones (Swami)

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Namaste dear Swami,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra

> > > > > > > > being unfavorable

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Graha

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > in this chart, those mentioned were the only

> > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > I could find (and

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > that was after quite some time spent in

> > > > > > > serious

> > > > > > > > thinking). It is

> > > > > > > > > >>>> my

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > mistake to " equalize " effects of Rudra and

> > > > > > > > Maheshvara in Shula

> > > > > > > > > >>>> dasa

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > somewhere in my

> > > > > > > > > >>>> memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I

> > > > > > > did

> > > > > > > > > >>>> say

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any

> > > > > > > > > >>>> significance to wear gemstone

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > for it (either to increase or to decrease).

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > So far I was informed about just a few rules

> > > > > > > > regarding determining

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I

> > > > > > > thought

> > > > > > > > that Ketu/Rahu

> > > > > > > > > >>>> could

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > reverse counting only in case if it is in

8th

> > > > > > > > from AK or if Rahu

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful

> > > > > > > > information about this

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > issue.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue...

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > received one

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > completely unexpected gift today afternoon:

> > > > > > > > silver ring with a

> > > > > > > > > >>>> pearl

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > and matching silver pectoral also decorated

> > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > pearls. What is

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > this today...? I was never this much

involved

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > any thread so

> > > > > > > > > >>>> far.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear it, even

> > > > > > > > though Chandra is not

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > lording my trines.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Maja

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > --- In

> > > > > > > > > >>>> , " swami "

> > > > > > > <swami@>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Dear Maja,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Your insights are great, incidently I was

> > > > > > > > struck at your

> > > > > > > > > >>>> mention

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I

> > > > > > > > don't think

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any

> > > > > > > > significance) .

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I could not understand How sukra is

> > > > > > > > maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu

> > > > > > > > > >>>> as

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar planet . that also is appears

> > > > > > > incorrect.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with

ketu

> > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > count to 8 th

> > > > > > > > > >>>> would

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc

leads

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > Leo.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > The sign lord is SUN.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN

> > > > > > > > becomes Brahma Planet.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > 12 th from Sun

> > > > > > > > > >>>> the

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Eight

> > > > > > > > > >>>> lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > We apply parashar strength to determne

> > > > > > > > strenth.Ketu and jup are

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so

> > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > per naisargic bal

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Jup

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > is Maheswar.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47

> > > > > > > sutra.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is

> > > > > > > > discussed.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih

> > > > > > > > knowledge .So Gem stone of

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > planet that is maheswar if put in left

should

> > > > > > > > diminish

> > > > > > > > > >>>> knowledge.If

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > worn in Right hand should enhance learning

of

> > > > > > > > vedic shahstra.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Perhaps native has tried many gems.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > By the way, influence of wearing planet

> > > > > > > > related to maheshwar is

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i

> > > > > > > could

> > > > > > > > access, so this

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > last suggestion may be taken just a logical

> > > > > > > > > >>>> aplication.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > with regards.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > OM TATSAT

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---

-

> > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > -- ---------

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Swami_RCS

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- ---------

-

> > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > ----- --------

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious

> > > > > > > effulgence

> > > > > > > > of that Divine

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Being

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > who has created the three worlds.May He

> > > > > > > Direct

> > > > > > > > our understanding. "

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- ---------

-

> > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > ----- --------- --------

> > > > > > > > > >>>> --

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > -

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > -

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > majastrbacastro

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

> > > > > > > > Gemstones

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing

> > > > > > > > zircon on his left

> > > > > > > > > >>>> hand,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > so

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that means he was weakening his lord of

> > > > > > > > > >>>> 10th bhava in 9th...

> > > > > > > > > >>>> And

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd

> > > > > > > > bhava (which is

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > considered

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also

> > > > > > > > maheshvara.. . but I don't

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > think

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any

> > > > > > > > significance) .

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I really dislike complicating simple

> > > > > > > things,

> > > > > > > > but this time I

> > > > > > > > > >>>> can

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > not

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in

> > > > > > > > Dhanu, yet Mithuna is

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > Guru in it. That

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > means

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his

> > > > > > > > Arudha Lagna. 12th

> > > > > > > > > >>>> lord

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from

> > > > > > > Arudha

> > > > > > > > Lagna signifies

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > expenses. He was weakening this one also.

> > > > > > > > These are just

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> thoughts...

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Maja

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > --- In

> > > > > > > > > >>>> , RKM

> > > > > > > > <rajeevmundra@ >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Dear Neeraj

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in

> > > > > > > 9th

> > > > > > > > house which is a

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Royal

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Yoga.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have

> > > > > > > > helped you grow in your

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > career.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very

> > > > > > > > suitable.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > Moon. -ve.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve

> > > > > > > > (but ok if malefic

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > debiliated in 12th

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > house)

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and

> > > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > > >>>> of 8th house.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and

> > > > > > > relatively

> > > > > > > > unafflicted is

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > working

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > the

> > > > > > > > > >>>> best.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Suns stone would probably give you

> > > > > > > better

> > > > > > > > health and overall

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > luck.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > But venus will cause growth in career.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > --

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Ã'Ã...Ã² Ã'Ã " Ã0/00Ã'Ã " Ã?Ã'Ã " f

> > > > > > > > Ã'Ã " Â´Ã'Ã " Æ'Ã'Ã " Â²Ã'Ã " Â¬Ã'Ã " Ã?

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > RKM

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda

> > > > > > > > krsna

> > > > > > > > > >>>> <yasodakrsna@ >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of

> > > > > > > SJC

> > > > > > > > have made error.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Particularly in my case was

> > > > > > > recommended

> > > > > > > > Coral by one,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Ruby

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > by

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > two.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by

> > > > > > > > > >>>> recommended quality

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > gemologist.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not

> > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > internet

> > > > > > > > > >>>> questions

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > but

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > by paid

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > services.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The good thing was the price of gold

> > > > > > > > soared and made good

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > money

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > by selling

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > it.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath

> > > > > > > recommendation

> > > > > > > > of yellow

> > > > > > > > > >>>> sapphire

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > as

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > it works.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their

> > > > > > > > Devata for the

> > > > > > > > > >>>> prediction

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > to

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > be true.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Yasoda.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than

> > > > > > > > gemstone if sincere

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_

> > > > > > > 2000@>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > vedic astrology;

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru]

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Choosing Gemstones

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > It's been more than four years that I

> > > > > > > > studied

> > > > > > > > > >>>> different

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > books on

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstones

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > and got advise from different good

> > > > > > > > astrologers about the

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstone. But none

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > of them gave very good result.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > As of now, some of the following

> > > > > > > > theories are present for

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > choosing

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > gemstone.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord

> > > > > > > > > >>>> (recommended by many

> > > > > > > > > >>>> astrologers)

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1,

> > > > > > > 5,

> > > > > > > > and 9) - Anukool

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > However, I recently found that one

> > > > > > > > gemstone worked very

> > > > > > > > > >>>> well

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > for

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > me. After

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wearing that I got a very good

> > > > > > > results

> > > > > > > > in my career and

> > > > > > > > > >>>> also

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > my

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > income

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > increased by more than 100% in

> > > > > > > approx. 4

> > > > > > > > months.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not

> > > > > > > recommended

> > > > > > > > to me by any

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > astrologer

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > (though I

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > consulted several ones in person) and

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > no such book it

> > > > > > > > > >>>> was

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > mentioned that

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > I should choose this gemstone. I read

> > > > > > > > approximately 8-10

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > books

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > on gem

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I

> > > > > > > > was not advised to

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > wear

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > this gemstone.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby,

> > > > > > > > Yellow Sapphire and

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Red

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Coral

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > by

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > different astrologers. One even

> > > > > > > advised

> > > > > > > > blue sapphire,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> that

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > made

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > matters

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > worse.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > then I will tell

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > gem

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > stone that

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > worked for me.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon

> > > > > > > > (Substitute of

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Diamond).

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > I

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > worn this in

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and

> > > > > > > things

> > > > > > > > started working

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > positive

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing

> > > > > > > > exceptional in

> > > > > > > > > >>>> my

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > personal / work

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be

> > > > > > > > noted.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. It's not lord of

> > > > > > > > > >>>> trines.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not

> > > > > > > running.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Still, it gave me good results.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way

> > > > > > > > that may be tried

> > > > > > > > > >>>> if

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > some

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > to try. Please share your results, so

> > > > > > > > that we can know

> > > > > > > > > >>>> more

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > about this.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in

> > > > > > > 1,5,9

> > > > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If

> > > > > > > > any of the planets

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > that

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > were in 1,5,9

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > house moves to

> > > > > > > > > >>>> some other house, ignore that planet.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines

> > > > > > > > (1,5,9) in both natal

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > chart

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > and

> > > > > > > > > >>>> bhava

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore

> > > > > > > rahu,

> > > > > > > > ketu)

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found

> > > > > > > till

> > > > > > > > step 3 is

> > > > > > > > > >>>> benefic

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > for

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > your

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > main gemstone of

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > that

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > planet and

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wear it in the right hand.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > was found in

> > > > > > > > > >>>> step

> > > > > > > > > >>>> 3

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > is

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > malefic,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > then choose the substitute gem for

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > planet and wear

> > > > > > > > > >>>> it

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > in

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > the left hand.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > The above was just a thought that came to my

> > > > > > > > mind and if

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > some

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants to

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > try it, they may do so for

> > > > > > > experiment.

> > > > > > > > Kindly share with

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > other

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > members, if

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > this method works for you.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

> > > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari

> > > > > > > > Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember

Akbar

> > > > > > > > the Great who said

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> that the human

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > stomach should not become a graveyard for

> > > > > > > > animals.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed -

do

> > > > > > > > one free chart

> > > > > > > > > >>>> reading

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > today

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Links

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

> > > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari

> > > > > > > Mantra 'Hare

> > > > > > > > Rama Krishna'

> > > > > > > > > >>>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > Great who said that the human

> > > > > > > > > >>>> stomach should not become a graveyard for

> > > > > > > animals.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do

> > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > free chart reading

> > > > > > > > > >>>> today

July 14, 2008

kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear Maja, Namaskar

It was nothing personal. To realize and live by this truth vijnana and

not only jnana is important - this demands a lot of effort for few

births (bahunam janmanam ante jnanavan mam

prapadyate - Gita). So there are various level of awarness (thinking,

feeling, willing - actions of mana). Yes, generally we can advise

spiritual direction always, but we can be more caring for those who are

ready for it. The fact about suffering (moksha konas are in 66% ruled

in karaka level by Shani) is not only connected to Hinduism but to

whole spectrum of faiths. Also the suffering is not necessary (raja,

rajarishi and rishi) but it can be helpful for some cases - therefore

AK in 80% gives suffering.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.com /

email:

rafal

Maja Strbac pisze:

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Rafal Ji,

Namaste

Would it surprise you to learn that basically I am aware of

spiritual point of view? Maybe not with such details who said what

and when, but main point, I am aware of it. Besides, I mostly used

past tenses in my previous email (additional to this, recently I was

through AD/MD that "clicked on" that parivartana in my chart).

Let's say a "regular civilian" who is not involved too much in

spirituality and has family and kids to feed could take such

information very hard. That is my point. You live in a country where

Hinduism is not widely spread religion (so do I). It is hard

to "convert" someone's way of thinking in one hour, which is average

duration of Jyotish reading.

Regards,

Maja

Hari Om Tat Sat

sohamsa ,

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> Dear Maja , Namaskar

>

> Srimati Kunti in Bhagavatam prays for the suffering as they bring

closer

> one to God. From spiritual point of view which is the only view

> everything what makes one closer to God its most auspicious.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> www: http://rohinaa.com

/ email: rafal

>

> Maja Strbac pisze:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste dear Anna (hey there, another girl!? Welcome!!!),

> >

> > I hope that you are not having a plan to just sit there and

read

> > this list. Maybe you could write something yourself from time

to

> > time. It would be nice (and useful for learning). Though I

think

> > that you wrote something recently, maybe a month ago? Your

name

and

> > ID seems familiar to me.

> >

> > I wish if I could help you more about your question. We are

both

in

> > the same position I am afraid. I don't know... Right now I am

just

> > holding my fingers crossed and hoping that this explanation

we

are

> > both waiting is not about "it is a blessing for spirituality".

My

> > blood pressure is rising when I hear that. One of first few

> > sentences about Jyotish that I have learned was similar to

this.

It

> > was regarding my current MD. This person told me "It is bad

for

> > health, career, finances..." I asked "until when?" and got

> > reply "Until 2010" (It was back in February of 2006. Can you

guess

> > how I felt to hear this?). Then he added "But it is great for

> > spirituality" (And it was few months before I have even heard

of

> > SJC). I was like "Oh, great, now I feel much better..." (Of

course I

> > was ironic). So, now you know what it means when Jyotisha

predicts a

> > great period for spirituality. For 99% of world wide

population

it

> > means that one should start digging hole in the ground and

fill

bags

> > with sand. (But it turned out I am ok in "My spirituality".

I

> > started to like it

> >

> > I am waiting with you...

> >

> > P.S. I appreciate people who appreciate honest and open minded

> > people.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Maja

> >

> > sohamsa

<sohamsa%

40>,

> > 108ar <bona_mente@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Raphal and Maja,

> > > I am dying to learn why/when 'Badhakesh can be blessing

for an

> > individual, as Raphael wrote.

> > > btw. I read all your posts with interest, I appreciate

that

> > you both are honest and open-minded astrol's

> > > best wishes,

> > > Anna

> > >

> > > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@>

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

Gemstones

(Rafal

> > Ji)

> > > sohamsa

<sohamsa%40>

> > > Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:02 PM

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Namaste dear Rafal Ji,

> > >

> > > Okay... let me finally introduce myself: My name is Maja

and I

> > have

> > > no idea yet what is the art design for front page of

"Vedic

> > > remedies" by Sanjay Rath, but I am about to find it out

till

the

> > end

> > > of this month when friend of mine is supposed to come

back from

> > > India with my copy of this book. Nice to meet you too.

> > >

> > > 1. You see, that list of "NO" points are what I have

learned so

> > far

> > > about gemstones, so when you take it in consideration,

the only

> > > conclusion I can make for now is that there is no

suitable

> > gemstone

> > > I can prescribe for any Kanya lagna (including myself,

and

(still

> > > only with taking that list in consideration) especially

because of

> > > Sk in trika bhava). That is the reason why I wrote that

I find

> > that

> > > list very frustrating. Of course, another reason is that

I

assumed

> > > that there must be deeper story behind those points I

wrote,

> > except

> > > I haven't got that far yet (I don't have a plan to stop

myself

> > here

> > > with gemstones, don't worry). I'll trust you on that

advice

about

> > > diamond exactly because I understand that this list is

not "the

> > edge

> > > of the world" about criteria for choosing. But it is

nice to

find

> > > out at the same time that I can advice diamond to a

friend of

mine

> > > who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is in 9th bhava. If I

am o.k.

she

> > > is going to bloom with diamond. As I understand in her

case

there

> > is

> > > no single reason to avoid it.

> > >

> > > 2. Well I am at the kinder garden level with gemstones.

I just

> > play

> > > with that a little. (But mantras are still... There I am

a new

born

> > > baby) Right now I am doing everything possible from my

position to

> > > get closer to elementary school. (Don't take personally

following

> > > lines, please. It is nothing pointed to you.) "Badhakesh

many

> > times

> > > is blessing to the native". From the perspective of

kinder

garden

> > I

> > > can give no knowledgably comment on this sentence. By

the time

I

> > > reach that deeper perspective I just hope that I shall

not meet

> > with

> > > explanation that sounds like "If you focus real hard you

can

prove

> > > hypothesis that elephant can hang over from a cliff with

his

tail

> > > holding to a daisy", because I ran off from Western

Astrology

> > > exactly because of such things. I would take it real

hard to

> > > disappoint in Jyotish. That explanation better be very

good and

> > > reasonable.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Maja

> > >

> > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > >

> > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@ ...>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > 1. Why is it frustrating for Kanya with Shukra in

trika? Do

you

> > > mean it

> > > > takes away the viveka to choose a gem as general or

its

> > > problematic to

> > > > choose a gem for you? For your chart its

diamond..easy.

> > > >

> > > > 2. In choosing a gem the planet (gem-karaka) should

bless one

> > with

> > > the

> > > > material / emotional goods. So dusthana, maraka,

badhakesh,

> > neelam

> > > can

> > > > be good depending on a chart - as they can provide

goods to

the

> > > native.

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center tries to teach class of

astrologers

which

> > > will rise

> > > > above those generalizations like 'dusthana is bad,

maraka is

> > bad,

> > > > badhakesh is bad' etc..thats kindergarden

astrology.

Badhakesh

> > > many

> > > > times is blessing to the native.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal@

> > > >

> > > > Maja Strbac pisze:

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste dear Rafal ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Ohh... so that was the catch! Thank you very

much.

> > > > >

> > > > > It is just that I find following list very

frustrating

> > sometimes:

> > > > >

> > > > > Lord of 2nd & 7th, maraka-NO!

> > > > > Lord of 6, 8 & 12th, dustahn-NO!

> > > > > Lord of 3rd & 11th, trika-NO!

> > > > > Graha in dustahn-NO!

> > > > > Graha in trika-NO!

> > > > > Badhakesh-NO!

> > > > > Blue sapphire-NO!

> > > > > Green emerald-NO!

> > > > >

> > > > > (I also find it very frustrating because I am

Kanya lagna

with

> > > Sukra

> > > > > in trika bhava

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Maja

> > > > >

> > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa@ .com

<sohamsa%

> > > 40. com>,

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > Dear Maja & SS , Namaskar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Usually we perscribe gems for kona lords

to increase the

> > rise,

> > > > > fortune

> > > > > > and wealth of native.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here Mangal is unafflicted and wellplaced

so it will give

> > > effect

> > > > > of

> > > > > > Lagnesh and not sixth lord.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Instead Shani will give effect of sixth

lord giving

problem

> > to

> > > > > pitta and

> > > > > > tridoshic problems of genital area/anus

(right side) (82-

91).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.

com> / email:

> > rafal@

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I don't have to write too much,

question is same (down

> > there

> > > in

> > > > > > > previous email from SS).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Help us?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Maja

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

<sohamsa%

> > > 40. com>

> > > > > <sohamsa%

> > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak@ >

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please can you advise why Coral

will be appropriate

even

> > > though

> > > > > > > Mars

> > > > > > > > is 6th lord?

> > > > > > > > Is it because it lords 9th from

AL?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Many thanx

> > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>

<sohamsa%

> > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >

wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. There is yoga involving

10L and 12L so the gem

will

> > > > > activate

> > > > > > > it.

> > > > > > > > > Parivartana means that

Diamond will activate Bu in

3

> > > from AL

> > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > afflicts career life and

skills of native.

> > > > > > > > > 2. Neck influences

thinking.

> > > > > > > > > 3. Planets in 12 from AL

gives effect of 4 planet

> > > forward in

> > > > > > > > kalachakra

> > > > > > > > > scheme.

> > > > > > > > > 4. This is especially done

for Rahu in badhak.

> > Badhakesh

> > > in

> > > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > corrected by offering Idol

- prasna marga

> > > > > > > > > 5. Yes third bhava is

lorded by Shani in twelfth. I

> > > follow

> > > > > > > Sanjayji

> > > > > > > > who

> > > > > > > > > also looks at lord when

bhava is empty.

> > > > > > > > > 6. We can do everything if

we know what we are

doing.

> > > > > Planets in

> > > > > > > > lagna,

> > > > > > > > > fifth and tenth eclipses

the others.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com

<http://rohinaa.

com>

> > > > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.

com>> / email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > rajarshi nandy pisze:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I was trying to

understand your advise to Mr

Sunil.

> > It

> > > > > would

> > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > great

> > > > > > > > > > if you could kindly

clarify some points which I

> > could

> > > not

> > > > > > > > understand.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1)Diamond could

increase the duryoga of 10th

lord,

> > due

> > > to

> > > > > yuti

> > > > > > > > causing

> > > > > > > > > > exchange of effects?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2)When is a ring or a

stone to be worn in neck?

What

> > > is its

> > > > > > > > significance?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 3)Ak Jup is in 12th

from AL. You said it will

give

> > > effects

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > shani.

> > > > > > > > > > Is it because of the

3rd garha in vara chakra?

But i

> > > > > thought

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > for grahas sitting in

1,5,10th house? Please

tell me

> > > the

> > > > > exact

> > > > > > > > rule.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 4)For the badhakesh,

this looks like a sarpa

> > badhaka.

> > > In

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > > case

> > > > > > > > > > shouldnt the native

donate 9 golden eggs to

nagraj

> > > temple?

> > > > > Why

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > Krishna idol donation

neeeded?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > -Regards

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Rajarshi

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > /*

> > > > > > > > > > *"This above all: to

thine own self be true!" -

> > Hamlet*

> > > > > > > > > > */

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 6/7/08,

Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@

> > >/*

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@ >

> > > > > > > > > > Re: [Om

Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

Gemstones

> > > > > > > (Sunil)

> > > > > > > > > > @

. com

> > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>

> > > > > > > <srijagannat

h%40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > Sunday, 6 July,

2008, 4:43 PM

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah

narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil , Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Diamond is forbidden

due to parivartana.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

> > > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com

/ email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

com

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >> *kleem namah

narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > >> Dear Sunil,

Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> 1. Diamond can

increase the duryoga of tenth

lord

> > > which is

> > > > > > > > > >> negative, but

will also improve the finances and

> > > > > > > Chandra..so

> > > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > > >> not perfect.

Coral has less side-effects here.

> > > > > > > > > >> 2. Neck is for

something else, fingers are for

> > karma.

> > > > > > > > > >> 3. We ve been

taught to not wear ratnas

signified

> > by

> > > AK.

> > > > > > > Irs

> > > > > > > > also

> > > > > > > > > >> in 12 from AL

giving Sa effects on AL.

> > > > > > > > > >> 4. Ketu will give

effects of Shukra, so initial

> > > setbacks

> > > > > > > > (rasi)

> > > > > > > > > >> and then

improvement (navamsa).

> > > > > > > > > >> 5. Just please

try to perform those remedies

which

> > I

> > > have

> > > > > > > > given

> > > > > > > > > >> in the last mail.

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> Altough Kalasarpa

is not so active already, the

> > Sarpa

> > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > >> broken and the

ninth lord should be lifted -

> > > Bhuvanesvari.

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> Agantuka adrsta

problems coming from Rahu

should be

> > > > > > > remedied

> > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > >> gift of

idol/picture related to Sri Krishna.

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> Regards,

> > > > > > > > > >> Rafal Gendarz /

SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > > >> www: http://rohinaa. com

/ email:

rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >> Sunil Sharma

pisze:

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Dear Rafal ji,

> > > > > > > > > >>> Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > >>> Thank you

very much for your guidance. I like

to

> > hear

> > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > >>> comments, not

just about me, but even regarding

> > other

> > > > > > > > > >>> person/subject

> > > > > > > > > >>> Good that I

removed the Pearl. I am, however,

still

> > > > > > > wearing

> > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > >>> Diamond in

silver ring in my right hand ring

> > finger.

> > > > > > > Should

> > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > >>> be removed

too? Not that I see any visible

> > difference

> > > > > > > after

> > > > > > > > > >>> wearing it.

> > > > > > > > > >>> I wear Coral

(by fortune-gem I assume you mean

> > Coral

> > > in

> > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > case)

> > > > > > > > > >>> in gold

pendant around the neck. Any

suggestions

> > for

> > > > > > > this.

> > > > > > > > > >>> Secondly,

someone suggested I should wear

Yellow

> > > > > > > Sapphire to

> > > > > > > > > >>> boost my

Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted

due

> > to

> > > > > > > > Rahu's 9th

> > > > > > > > > >>> aspect. Is it

appropriate?

> > > > > > > > > >>> As for dasha

and antardasha, I have not seen

good

> > > period

> > > > > > > > since

> > > > > > > > > >>> the beginning

of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some

sporadic

> > > gains

> > > > > > > > now and

> > > > > > > > > >>> then but

nothing substantial. I would love to

> > change

> > > the

> > > > > > > > > >>> situation, if

I can, and solicit your advice in

> > this

> > > > > > > > regard. If

> > > > > > > > > >>> you will be

kind enough to please give me a

clear

> > > idea

> > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > >>> can do.

> > > > > > > > > >>> Regards

> > > > > > > > > >>> Sunil

> > > > > > > > > >>> --- On *Sun,

7/6/08, Rafal

Gendarz /<starsuponme@

> > > > > > > wp.pl>/*

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Rafal

Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Re:

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

> > > > > > > Gemstones

> > > > > > > > (Sunil)

> > > > > > > > > >>> To:

> > > > > > > > > >>> Sunday,

July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> *kleem namah

narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > >>> Dear Sunil ,

Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> You cant wear

pearl at all as its badhakesh

with

> > > > > > > rahu in

> > > > > > > > > >>> Lagna. Its

good to donate Krishna idol/picture

to

> > > > > > > > > >>>

temple/spiritual person.

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> You can wear

only Coral.

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Left hand is

usually for malefic being placed

in

> > > > > > > > third/ninth

> > > > > > > > > >>> - only in

dasa of this malefic - instead use

right

> > > > > > > hand

> > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > >>> fortune-gem.

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Best is to

get initiation in Bhuvanesvari

Sadhana

> > and

> > > > > > > > > >>> worship

Hanumanji sincerly!

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Middle period

of Shukra mahadasa can be

troublesome

> > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > > >>> the strength

period (neechavastha) , after

initial

> > > > > > > > struggle

> > > > > > > > > >>> there should

be improvement due to exaltation

in

> > d9.

> > > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > >>> period works

for spirituality a lot due to

> > karakaamsa

> > > > > > > > > >>> position.

Rahu AD will give effect of chandra

and

> > > > > > > being

> > > > > > > > GK

> > > > > > > > > >>> it should not

be so bad but the twelfth bhava

will

> > be

> > > > > > > > > >>> strongly

activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and

fact

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > Mo

> > > > > > > > > >>> in Lg eclipse

Bu in 12H).

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Regards,

> > > > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz

/ SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > > >>> www: http://rohinaa. com

<http://www.rohinaa.

com/

> > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/>

> > > > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/ <http://www.rohinaa.

com/>>> /

> > > > > > > > email:

> > > > > > > > > >>>

rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ >

> > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > >>> Sunil Sharma

pisze:

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Dear Maja,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> I fully

appreciate your openness about various

> > > > > > > > observations

> > > > > > > > > >>>> made so

far. At least you are better than me

when

> > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > say

> > > > > > > > > >>>> few

charts are clear to you. To me all of them

> > look

> > > > > > > > confusing.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> My birth

data is as follows:

> > > > > > > > > >>>> DOB: 21st

September 1955

> > > > > > > > > >>>> TOB:

10:32 A.M.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> POB

Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Like I

said earlier, take your time about it.

I am

> > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > in a

> > > > > > > > > >>>> hurry.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Sunil

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> --- On

*Sun, 7/6/08,

> > > > > > > majastrbacastro /<majastrbacastro@

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> <majastrbaca stro@>/* wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Subject:

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

> > > > > > > Gemstones

> > > > > > > > (Sunil)

> > > > > > > > > >>>> To:

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Date:

Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Om Gurave

Namah

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Dear

Sunil,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Namaste

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> My

decision

> > > > > > > > > >>>> to wear

that gift I received has nothing to do

> > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > >>>> procedure

of determining proper gemstone It

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > just that I wear

> > > > > > > > > >>>> jewelry

only on rare occasions, lately I find

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > very entertaining

> > > > > > > > > >>>> to learn

about gemstones (not just for past

two

> > > > > > > > days), for past

> > > > > > > > > >>>> month or

two I had a few dialogues regarding

> > > > > > > same

> > > > > > > > kind of ring that

> > > > > > > > > >>>> you are

wearing right now, and it turned out

it

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > not suitable for

> > > > > > > > > >>>> me when I

was about to buy one. What happened

> > > > > > > > yesterday I consider

> > > > > > > > > >>>> it to be

nice omen, so I decided to wear it

for

> > > > > > > > few months. (If I

> > > > > > > > > >>>> suddenly

disappear from list it will mean that

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > was a wrong

> > > > > > > > > >>>> decision

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Anyway,

please give me your birth data. I

would

> > > > > > > > like to look at

> > > > > > > > > >>>> whole

chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to

> > > > > > > > take it just as an

> > > > > > > > > >>>> opinion.

As I have said on the beginning of

> > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > thread I am not

> > > > > > > > > >>>> quite

skilled with this issue, so have this

> > > > > > > > > >>>> in mind

(Though it was

> > > > > > > > > >>>> not so

difficult for me to say that ruby is

> > > > > > > proper

> > > > > > > > > >>>> gemstone

for

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Neeraj,

since positions in his chart are not

so

> > > > > > > > confusing as they

> > > > > > > > > >>>> often

could be in various charts. When

> > > > > > > positions

> > > > > > > > in chart are

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

complicated I choose to say "I don't know"

> > > > > > > rather

> > > > > > > > than to ruin

> > > > > > > > > >>>> someone's

life.)

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Maja

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Hari Om

Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> --- In

, Sunil

> > > > > > > > Sharma

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

<sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Dear

Maja,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > I

have been reading each and every message

on

> > > > > > > > this thread and, at

> > > > > > > > > >>>> the

outset, was surprised to read about

> > > > > > > Neeraj's

> > > > > > > > observations.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> However,

things became quite clear later on

> > > > > > > > especially with your

> > > > > > > > > >>>> comments

on antardasha.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Your

very last sentence in your last mail

> > > > > > > (even

> > > > > > > > though chandra is

> > > > > > > > > >>>> not

lording my trines) caught my attention.

> > > > > > > > Debilitated chandra (in

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Scorpio,

in lagna) is lording 9th house in my

> > > > > > > > chart with exalted

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Jupiter

positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu

> > > > > > > conjoining

> > > > > > > > moon in

> > > > > > > > > >>>> lagna

aspects 5th, 7th and 9th

> > > > > > > > > >>>> house

spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY

> > > > > > > > > >>>> or KAY

operational here along 1-7 axis). So,

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > net result is

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already

> > > > > > > > afflicted due to

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

debilitation) is afflicted. All this is

> > > > > > > something

> > > > > > > > I have been told

> > > > > > > > > >>>> by

various astrologers (not necessarily all at

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > same time).

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and

> > > > > > > Diamond

> > > > > > > > to me. I am still

> > > > > > > > > >>>> wearing

diamond in silver ring on my right

hand

> > > > > > > > ring finger

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

(presently going through Venus dasha), and

> > > > > > > Coral

> > > > > > > > in gold pendant in

> > > > > > > > > >>>> the neck.

I wore Pearl in a silver ring

earlier

> > > > > > > > but changed it to a

> > > > > > > > > >>>> pendant

and wore it in the neck in a black

> > > > > > > string.

> > > > > > > > I have since

> > > > > > > > > >>>> removed

it but I must say that whenever I wear

> > > > > > > > Pearl it quietens my

> > > > > > > > > >>>> temper

down. Besides that, I have not seen any

> > > > > > > > improvement in my

> > > > > > > > > >>>> career or

financial aspects.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Now,

my real question to you is

> > > > > > > > > >>>> this.

Moon being afflicted and

> > > > > > > > > >>>> left hand

to be used (for the effect to be

> > > > > > > > reduced), I should

> > > > > > > > > >>>> have

> > > > > > > > > >>>> worn the

Pearl in my left hand ring finger?

You

> > > > > > > > may take few days to

> > > > > > > > > >>>> reply! I

am not in a hurry.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

Regards

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Sunil

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > ---

On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro

> > > > > > > > <majastrbacastro@ ...>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

> > > > > > > > Gemstones (Swami)

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > To:

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Om

Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

Namaste dear Swami,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra

> > > > > > > > being unfavorable

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Graha

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > in

this chart, those mentioned were the only

> > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > I could find (and

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > that

was after quite some time spent in

> > > > > > > serious

> > > > > > > > thinking). It is

> > > > > > > > > >>>> my

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra and

> > > > > > > > Maheshvara in Shula

> > > > > > > > > >>>> dasa

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

somewhere in my

> > > > > > > > > >>>> memory,

which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I

> > > > > > > did

> > > > > > > > > >>>> say

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > that

I sincerely doubt it is of any

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

significance to wear gemstone

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > for

it (either to increase or to decrease).

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > So

far I was informed about just a few rules

> > > > > > > > regarding determining

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I

> > > > > > > thought

> > > > > > > > that Ketu/Rahu

> > > > > > > > > >>>> could

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

reverse counting only in case if it is in

8th

> > > > > > > > from AK or if Rahu

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful

> > > > > > > > information about this

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

issue.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > P.S.

All this long day on gemstones issue...

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > received one

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

completely unexpected gift today afternoon:

> > > > > > > > silver ring with a

> > > > > > > > > >>>> pearl

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > and

matching silver pectoral also decorated

> > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > pearls. What is

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > this

today...? I was never this much

involved

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > any thread so

> > > > > > > > > >>>> far.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear it, even

> > > > > > > > though Chandra is not

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

lording my trines.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Maja

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Hari

Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > ---

In

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

, "swami"

> > > > > > > <swami@>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

|| Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

Hari Om,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

Dear Maja,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

Your insights are great, incidently I was

> > > > > > > > struck at your

> > > > > > > > > >>>> mention

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > of "

Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I

> > > > > > > > don't think

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

that this latter one could be of any

> > > > > > > > significance) .

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

I could not understand How sukra is

> > > > > > > > maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu

> > > > > > > > > >>>> as

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

maheswar planet . that also is appears

> > > > > > > incorrect.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with

ketu

> > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > count to 8 th

> > > > > > > > > >>>> would

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > be

reverse. Counting eight from AK merc

leads

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > Leo.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

The sign lord is SUN.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN

> > > > > > > > becomes Brahma Planet.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > In

such an eventulaty we have to count 8th

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > 12 th from Sun

> > > > > > > > > >>>> the

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

maheswar.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

Eight

> > > > > > > > > >>>> lords are

mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

We apply parashar strength to determne

> > > > > > > > strenth.Ketu and jup are

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > both

with one planet Jup is in dual sign so

> > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > per naisargic bal

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Jup

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > is

Maheswar.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

You can check workng referring to 2.1.47

> > > > > > > sutra.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

Now on thread question of wearing gem is

> > > > > > > > discussed.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

Maheswar planet is associated wih

> > > > > > > > knowledge .So Gem stone of

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

planet that is maheswar if put in left

should

> > > > > > > > diminish

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

knowledge.If

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > worn

in Right hand should enhance learning

of

> > > > > > > > vedic shahstra.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

Perhaps native has tried many gems.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

By the way, influence of wearing planet

> > > > > > > > related to maheshwar is

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > not

taught in parampara or in scriptures,i

> > > > > > > could

> > > > > > > > access, so this

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > last

suggestion may be taken just a logical

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

aplication.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

Hope it sets you to think and experiment.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

with regards.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

OM TATSAT

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

------------ --------- --------- --------- ---

-

> > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > -- ---------

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

Swami_RCS

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

------------ --------- --------- ---------

-

> > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > ----- --------

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

" Let us meditate on the glorious

> > > > > > > effulgence

> > > > > > > > of that Divine

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Being

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > who

has created the three worlds.May He

> > > > > > > Direct

> > > > > > > > our understanding. "

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

------------ --------- --------- ---------

-

> > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > ----- --------- --------

> > > > > > > > > >>>> --

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > -

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

-

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

majastrbacastro

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

> > > > > > > > Gemstones

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing

> > > > > > > > zircon on his left

> > > > > > > > > >>>> hand,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > so

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

that means he was weakening his lord of

> > > > > > > > > >>>> 10th

bhava in 9th...

> > > > > > > > > >>>> And

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd

> > > > > > > > bhava (which is

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

considered

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also

> > > > > > > > maheshvara.. . but I don't

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > think

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

that this latter one could be of any

> > > > > > > > significance) .

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

I really dislike complicating simple

> > > > > > > things,

> > > > > > > > but this time I

> > > > > > > > > >>>> can

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > not

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in

> > > > > > > > Dhanu, yet Mithuna is

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > Guru in it. That

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > means

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his

> > > > > > > > Arudha Lagna. 12th

> > > > > > > > > >>>> lord

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from

> > > > > > > Arudha

> > > > > > > > Lagna signifies

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

expenses. He was weakening this one also.

> > > > > > > > These are just

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

thoughts...

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

Regards,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

Maja

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

--- In

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

, RKM

> > > > > > > > <rajeevmundra@ >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> Dear Neeraj

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in

> > > > > > > 9th

> > > > > > > > house which is a

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Royal

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

Yoga.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have

> > > > > > > > helped you grow in your

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

career.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> Rest all planets seems not to be very

> > > > > > > > suitable.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > Moon. -ve.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve

> > > > > > > > (but ok if malefic

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

debiliated in 12th

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> house)

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> Saturn in lagna. -ve.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and

> > > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > > >>>> of 8th

house.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> Venus lord of 10th in 9th and

> > > > > > > relatively

> > > > > > > > unafflicted is

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

working

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

the

> > > > > > > > > >>>> best.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> Suns stone would probably give you

> > > > > > > better

> > > > > > > > health and overall

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > luck.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> But venus will cause growth in career.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> --

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> Ã'Ã...Ã² Ã'Ã"Ã0/00Ã'Ã"Ã?Ã'Ã"f

> > > > > > > > Ã'Ã"Â´Ã'Ã"Æ'Ã'Ã"Â²Ã'Ã"Â¬Ã'Ã"Ã?

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> RKM

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda

> > > > > > > > krsna

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

<yasodakrsna@ >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > Neeraj,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of

> > > > > > > SJC

> > > > > > > > have made error.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > Particularly in my case was

> > > > > > > recommended

> > > > > > > > Coral by one,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Ruby

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > by

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

two.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > Both gemstones were purchased by

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

recommended quality

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

gemologist.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > This gemstone recommendation was not

> > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > internet

> > > > > > > > > >>>> questions

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > but

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > by

paid

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > services.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > The good thing was the price of gold

> > > > > > > > soared and made good

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > money

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

by selling

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > it.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > I still value Sanjay Rath

> > > > > > > recommendation

> > > > > > > > of yellow

> > > > > > > > > >>>> sapphire

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > as

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

it works.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > Even Jyotish have to worship their

> > > > > > > > Devata for the

> > > > > > > > > >>>> prediction

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > to

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

be true.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > Yasoda.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > FYI Prayers have more effect than

> > > > > > > > gemstone if sincere

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_

> > > > > > > 2000@>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > vedic astrology;

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > [Om Krishna Guru]

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Choosing

Gemstones

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > It's been more than four years that I

> > > > > > > > studied

> > > > > > > > > >>>> different

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

books on

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

gemstones

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > and got advise from different good

> > > > > > > > astrologers about the

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

gemstone. But none

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > of them gave very good result.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > As of now, some of the following

> > > > > > > > theories are present for

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

choosing

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > gemstone.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

(recommended by many

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

astrologers)

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1,

> > > > > > > 5,

> > > > > > > > and 9) - Anukool

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > 4. Gemstone of MD lord

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > However, I recently found that one

> > > > > > > > gemstone worked very

> > > > > > > > > >>>> well

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > for

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

me. After

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > wearing that I got a very good

> > > > > > > results

> > > > > > > > in my career and

> > > > > > > > > >>>> also

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > my

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

income

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > increased by more than 100% in

> > > > > > > approx. 4

> > > > > > > > months.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > Well, this gem stone was not

> > > > > > > recommended

> > > > > > > > to me by any

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

astrologer

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

(though I

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > consulted several ones in person) and

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > no such book it

> > > > > > > > > >>>> was

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

mentioned that

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > I

should choose this gemstone. I read

> > > > > > > > approximately 8-10

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > books

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

on gem

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I

> > > > > > > > was not advised to

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > wear

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

this gemstone.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby,

> > > > > > > > Yellow Sapphire and

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Red

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Coral

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

by

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > different astrologers. One even

> > > > > > > advised

> > > > > > > > blue sapphire,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> that

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > made

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

matters

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > worse.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > So, let me tell you my birth details

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > then I will tell

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > gem

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

stone that

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

worked for me.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > The gemstone that worked was Zircon

> > > > > > > > (Substitute of

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Diamond).

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > I

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

worn this in

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > left hand ring finger in gold and

> > > > > > > things

> > > > > > > > started working

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

positive

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > automatically. I didn't did any thing

> > > > > > > > exceptional in

> > > > > > > > > >>>> my

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

personal / work

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > life. Now there are somethings to be

> > > > > > > > noted.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > 1. It's not lord of

> > > > > > > > > >>>> trines.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not

> > > > > > > running.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > 3. Not lord of nakshatra

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > Still, it gave me good results.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > On the basis of this, I thought a way

> > > > > > > > that may be tried

> > > > > > > > > >>>> if

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > some

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

one wants

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > to try. Please share your results, so

> > > > > > > > that we can know

> > > > > > > > > >>>> more

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

about this.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > 1. Look for the planets placed in

> > > > > > > 1,5,9

> > > > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If

> > > > > > > > any of the planets

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > that

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

were in 1,5,9

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > house moves to

> > > > > > > > > >>>> some

other house, ignore that planet.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > 3. If there is any planet in Trines

> > > > > > > > (1,5,9) in both natal

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > chart

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

and

> > > > > > > > > >>>> bhava

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > chart, choose that planet (ignore

> > > > > > > rahu,

> > > > > > > > ketu)

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > 4. Now if the planet that was found

> > > > > > > till

> > > > > > > > step 3 is

> > > > > > > > > >>>> benefic

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > for

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

your

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > main gemstone of

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > that

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

planet and

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > wear it in the right hand.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > 5. On the other hand, if the planet

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > was found in

> > > > > > > > > >>>> step

> > > > > > > > > >>>> 3

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > is

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

malefic,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > then choose the substitute gem for

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > planet and wear

> > > > > > > > > >>>> it

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > in

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

the left hand.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > The

above was just a thought that came to my

> > > > > > > > mind and if

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > some

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

one wants to

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > try it, they may do so for

> > > > > > > experiment.

> > > > > > > > Kindly share with

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > other

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

members, if

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > this method works for you.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > Neeraj Gupta

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

------------ --------- --------- ------

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > ~ om

tat sat ~

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

> > > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari

> > > > > > > > Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > (2)

Try to become Vegetarian - remember

Akbar

> > > > > > > > the Great who said

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> that the

human

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

stomach should not become a graveyard for

> > > > > > > > animals.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> > (3)

Practice charity in thought and deed -

do

> > > > > > > > one free chart

> > > > > > > > > >>>> reading

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

today

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Links

> > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

------------ --------- --------- ------

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > >>>> ~ om tat

sat ~

> > > > > > > > > >>>> Thank you

for maintaining the decorum of the

> > > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari

> > > > > > > Mantra 'Hare

> > > > > > > > Rama Krishna'

> > > > > > > > > >>>> (2) Try

to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > Great who said that the human

> > > > > > > > > >>>> stomach

should not become a graveyard for

> > > > > > > animals.

> > > > > > > > > >>>> (3)

Practice charity in thought and deed - do

> > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > free chart reading

> > > > > > > > > >>>>

today

July 14, 2008

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Rafal Ji,

Namaste

(For just in case I shall reply on your email with following,

because sometimes I can " feel " someone's mood when I read his emails)

Wait a minute. Hold it. Relax, please! I gave myself a promise that

last time I had done something, that you might think I was doing is

my last email to you, is really my LAST time! I keep my promises. My

last email was personal, but NOT personal AGAINST you, honestly. Do

I have to add it each and every time that it is nothing personal

against you? (It would be useful if we could attach our facial

expressions to our emails as well

Some of the worst charts that I have ever seen in my life belong to

my closest friends. Even though I have more than one hour to talk to

them it is very hard to be helpful for most of them precisely

because of reasons I was mentioning. I fall apart when I see someone

in tears, problem or pain, but I take it much harder to have part of

solution available for them (aside from being just a big listening

ear), and yet it is useless because very few are ready to accept it

and follow it.

I was just thinking that you had to have similar experiences

sometimes with your clients from your country.

Example of worst chart: 09th of August 1978 at 12 35 PM 20 E 30; 44

N 50; time zone 01 hour East of GMT. That is just illustration. If

you had ever seen worst Sukra in someone's chart, please let me

know. She is a friend, of course. (She had a full reading don't

worry, I wasn't dealing with this personally. Now I can just hope

that she is doing her remedies on regular basis)

My best friend stopped fasting on UL lord few months ago…

My own brother and father belong to category " never mention that

there is such thing like mantra " . They would never understand it…

There is a lot of people around me who I can not simply say " it is

good for spirituality " not even if I have a whole week available to

elaborate this sentence. I live in such country unfortunately. So,

in some cases I chose not to mention anything from chart and what it

means. In those cases I am just a big listening ear when I am asked

for.

(I hope that there was no need at all to write this email. In case

there was a misunderstanding, I hope that it is cleared out now)

Regards,

Maja

Hari Om Tat Sat

sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> Dear Maja, Namaskar

>

> It was nothing personal. To realize and live by this truth vijnana

and

> not only jnana is important - this demands a lot of effort for few

> births (*bahunam* janmanam ante jnanavan mam prapadyate - Gita).

So

> there are various level of awarness (thinking, feeling, willing -

> actions of mana). Yes, generally we can advise spiritual direction

> always, but we can be more caring for those who are ready for it.

The

> fact about suffering (moksha konas are in 66% ruled in karaka

level by

> Shani) is not only connected to Hinduism but to whole spectrum of

> faiths. Also the suffering is not necessary (raja, rajarishi and

rishi)

> but it can be helpful for some cases - therefore AK in 80% gives

suffering.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal

>

> Maja Strbac pisze:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Dear Rafal Ji,

> > Namaste

> >

> > Would it surprise you to learn that basically I am aware of

> > spiritual point of view? Maybe not with such details who said

what

> > and when, but main point, I am aware of it. Besides, I mostly

used

> > past tenses in my previous email (additional to this, recently I

was

> > through AD/MD that " clicked on " that parivartana in my chart).

> >

> > Let's say a " regular civilian " who is not involved too much in

> > spirituality and has family and kids to feed could take such

> > information very hard. That is my point. You live in a country

where

> > Hinduism is not widely spread religion (so do I). It is hard

> > to " convert " someone's way of thinking in one hour, which is

average

> > duration of Jyotish reading.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Maja

> >

> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> >

> > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40>,

> > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > Dear Maja , Namaskar

> > >

> > > Srimati Kunti in Bhagavatam prays for the suffering as they

bring

> > closer

> > > one to God. From spiritual point of view which is the only view

> > > everything what makes one closer to God its most auspicious.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > www: http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> / email: rafal@

> > >

> > > Maja Strbac pisze:

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Namaste dear Anna (hey there, another girl!? Welcome!!!),

> > > >

> > > > I hope that you are not having a plan to just sit there and

read

> > > > this list. Maybe you could write something yourself from

time to

> > > > time. It would be nice (and useful for learning). Though I

think

> > > > that you wrote something recently, maybe a month ago? Your

name

> > and

> > > > ID seems familiar to me.

> > > >

> > > > I wish if I could help you more about your question. We are

both

> > in

> > > > the same position I am afraid. I don't know... Right now I am

> > just

> > > > holding my fingers crossed and hoping that this explanation

we

> > are

> > > > both waiting is not about " it is a blessing for

spirituality " . My

> > > > blood pressure is rising when I hear that. One of first few

> > > > sentences about Jyotish that I have learned was similar to

this.

> > It

> > > > was regarding my current MD. This person told me " It is bad

for

> > > > health, career, finances... " I asked " until when? " and got

> > > > reply " Until 2010 " (It was back in February of 2006. Can you

> > guess

> > > > how I felt to hear this?). Then he added " But it is great for

> > > > spirituality " (And it was few months before I have even

heard of

> > > > SJC). I was like " Oh, great, now I feel much better... " (Of

> > course I

> > > > was ironic). So, now you know what it means when Jyotisha

> > predicts a

> > > > great period for spirituality. For 99% of world wide

population

> > it

> > > > means that one should start digging hole in the ground and

fill

> > bags

> > > > with sand. (But it turned out I am ok in " My

spirituality " . I

> > > > started to like it

> > > >

> > > > I am waiting with you...

> > > >

> > > > P.S. I appreciate people who appreciate honest and open

minded

> > > > people.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Maja

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40>

> > <sohamsa%

> > 40>,

> > > > 108ar <bona_mente@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Raphal and Maja,

> > > > > I am dying to learn why/when 'Badhakesh can be blessing

for an

> > > > individual, as Raphael wrote.

> > > > > btw. I read all your posts with interest, I appreciate that

> > > > you both are honest and open-minded astrol's

> > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > Anna

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@>

> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones

> > (Rafal

> > > > Ji)

> > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40>

> > <sohamsa%40>

> > > > > Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:02 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste dear Rafal Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Okay... let me finally introduce myself: My name is Maja

and I

> > > > have

> > > > > no idea yet what is the art design for front page of " Vedic

> > > > > remedies " by Sanjay Rath, but I am about to find it out

till

> > the

> > > > end

> > > > > of this month when friend of mine is supposed to come back

from

> > > > > India with my copy of this book. Nice to meet you too.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. You see, that list of " NO " points are what I have

learned so

> > > > far

> > > > > about gemstones, so when you take it in consideration, the

only

> > > > > conclusion I can make for now is that there is no suitable

> > > > gemstone

> > > > > I can prescribe for any Kanya lagna (including myself, and

> > (still

> > > > > only with taking that list in consideration) especially

> > because of

> > > > > Sk in trika bhava). That is the reason why I wrote that I

find

> > > > that

> > > > > list very frustrating. Of course, another reason is that I

> > assumed

> > > > > that there must be deeper story behind those points I

wrote,

> > > > except

> > > > > I haven't got that far yet (I don't have a plan to stop

myself

> > > > here

> > > > > with gemstones, don't worry). I'll trust you on that advice

> > about

> > > > > diamond exactly because I understand that this list is

not " the

> > > > edge

> > > > > of the world " about criteria for choosing. But it is nice

to

> > find

> > > > > out at the same time that I can advice diamond to a friend

of

> > mine

> > > > > who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is in 9th bhava. If I am

o.k.

> > she

> > > > > is going to bloom with diamond. As I understand in her case

> > there

> > > > is

> > > > > no single reason to avoid it.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. Well I am at the kinder garden level with gemstones. I

just

> > > > play

> > > > > with that a little. (But mantras are still... There I am a

new

> > born

> > > > > baby) Right now I am doing everything possible from my

> > position to

> > > > > get closer to elementary school. (Don't take personally

> > following

> > > > > lines, please. It is nothing pointed to you.) " Badhakesh

many

> > > > times

> > > > > is blessing to the native " . From the perspective of kinder

> > garden

> > > > I

> > > > > can give no knowledgably comment on this sentence. By the

time

> > I

> > > > > reach that deeper perspective I just hope that I shall not

meet

> > > > with

> > > > > explanation that sounds like " If you focus real hard you

can

> > prove

> > > > > hypothesis that elephant can hang over from a cliff with

his

> > tail

> > > > > holding to a daisy " , because I ran off from Western

Astrology

> > > > > exactly because of such things. I would take it real hard

to

> > > > > disappoint in Jyotish. That explanation better be very

good and

> > > > > reasonable.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Maja

> > > > >

> > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz

> > <starsuponme@ ...>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Why is it frustrating for Kanya with Shukra in trika?

Do

> > you

> > > > > mean it

> > > > > > takes away the viveka to choose a gem as general or its

> > > > > problematic to

> > > > > > choose a gem for you? For your chart its diamond..easy.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. In choosing a gem the planet (gem-karaka) should

bless one

> > > > with

> > > > > the

> > > > > > material / emotional goods. So dusthana, maraka,

badhakesh,

> > > > neelam

> > > > > can

> > > > > > be good depending on a chart - as they can provide goods

to

> > the

> > > > > native.

> > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center tries to teach class of astrologers

> > which

> > > > > will rise

> > > > > > above those generalizations like 'dusthana is bad,

maraka is

> > > > bad,

> > > > > > badhakesh is bad' etc..thats kindergarden astrology.

> > Badhakesh

> > > > > many

> > > > > > times is blessing to the native.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal@

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ohh... so that was the catch! Thank you very much.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is just that I find following list very frustrating

> > > > sometimes:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lord of 2nd & 7th, maraka-NO!

> > > > > > > Lord of 6, 8 & 12th, dustahn-NO!

> > > > > > > Lord of 3rd & 11th, trika-NO!

> > > > > > > Graha in dustahn-NO!

> > > > > > > Graha in trika-NO!

> > > > > > > Badhakesh-NO!

> > > > > > > Blue sapphire-NO!

> > > > > > > Green emerald-NO!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > (I also find it very frustrating because I am Kanya

lagna

> > with

> > > > > Sukra

> > > > > > > in trika bhava

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Maja

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

> > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > Dear Maja & SS , Namaskar

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Usually we perscribe gems for kona lords to increase

the

> > > > rise,

> > > > > > > fortune

> > > > > > > > and wealth of native.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Here Mangal is unafflicted and wellplaced so it will

give

> > > > > effect

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > Lagnesh and not sixth lord.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Instead Shani will give effect of sixth lord giving

> > problem

> > > > to

> > > > > > > pitta and

> > > > > > > > tridoshic problems of genital area/anus (right side)

(82-

> > 91).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> /

email:

> > > > rafal@

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I don't have to write too much, question is same

(down

> > > > there

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > previous email from SS).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Help us?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Maja

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

> > > > > 40. com>

> > > > > > > <sohamsa%

> > > > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Please can you advise why Coral will be

appropriate

> > even

> > > > > though

> > > > > > > > > Mars

> > > > > > > > > > is 6th lord?

> > > > > > > > > > Is it because it lords 9th from AL?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Many thanx

> > > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com> <sohamsa%

> > > > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the

gem

> > will

> > > > > > > activate

> > > > > > > > > it.

> > > > > > > > > > > Parivartana means that Diamond will activate

Bu in

> > 3

> > > > > from AL

> > > > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > > > afflicts career life and skills of native.

> > > > > > > > > > > 2. Neck influences thinking.

> > > > > > > > > > > 3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4

planet

> > > > > forward in

> > > > > > > > > > kalachakra

> > > > > > > > > > > scheme.

> > > > > > > > > > > 4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak.

> > > > Badhakesh

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga

> > > > > > > > > > > 5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in

twelfth. I

> > > > > follow

> > > > > > > > > Sanjayji

> > > > > > > > > > who

> > > > > > > > > > > also looks at lord when bhava is empty.

> > > > > > > > > > > 6. We can do everything if we know what we are

> > doing.

> > > > > > > Planets in

> > > > > > > > > > lagna,

> > > > > > > > > > > fifth and tenth eclipses the others.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>

> > > > > > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> / email:

rafal@

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > rajarshi nandy pisze:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I was trying to understand your advise to Mr

> > Sunil.

> > > > It

> > > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > great

> > > > > > > > > > > > if you could kindly clarify some points

which I

> > > > could

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > understand.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th

> > lord,

> > > > due

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > yuti

> > > > > > > > > > causing

> > > > > > > > > > > > exchange of effects?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in

neck?

> > What

> > > > > is its

> > > > > > > > > > significance?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will

> > give

> > > > > effects

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > shani.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara

chakra?

> > But i

> > > > > > > thought

> > > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > > for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please

> > tell me

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > exact

> > > > > > > > > > rule.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa

> > > > badhaka.

> > > > > In

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > case

> > > > > > > > > > > > shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to

> > nagraj

> > > > > temple?

> > > > > > > Why

> > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > Krishna idol donation neeeded?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > -Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rajarshi

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > /*

> > > > > > > > > > > > * " This above all: to thine own self be

true! " -

> > > > Hamlet*

> > > > > > > > > > > > */

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal

Gendarz /<starsuponme@

> > > > >/*

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

> > Gemstones

> > > > > > > > > (Sunil)

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>

> > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil , Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email:

rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

> > com

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > > > >> Dear Sunil, Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > > >> 1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth

> > lord

> > > > > which is

> > > > > > > > > > > >> negative, but will also improve the

finances and

> > > > > > > > > Chandra..so

> > > > > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > > > > >> not perfect. Coral has less side-effects

here.

> > > > > > > > > > > >> 2. Neck is for something else, fingers are

for

> > > > karma.

> > > > > > > > > > > >> 3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas

> > signified

> > > > by

> > > > > AK.

> > > > > > > > > Irs

> > > > > > > > > > also

> > > > > > > > > > > >> in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL.

> > > > > > > > > > > >> 4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so

initial

> > > > > setbacks

> > > > > > > > > > (rasi)

> > > > > > > > > > > >> and then improvement (navamsa).

> > > > > > > > > > > >> 5. Just please try to perform those remedies

> > which

> > > > I

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > given

> > > > > > > > > > > >> in the last mail.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > > >> Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already,

the

> > > > Sarpa

> > > > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > >> broken and the ninth lord should be lifted -

> > > > > Bhuvanesvari.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > > >> Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu

> > should be

> > > > > > > > > remedied

> > > > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > >> gift of idol/picture related to Sri Krishna.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > > >> Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > > > > >> www: http://rohinaa. com / email:

> > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

> > > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > > >> Sunil Sharma pisze:

> > > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Dear Rafal ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Thank you very much for your guidance. I

like

> > to

> > > > hear

> > > > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> comments, not just about me, but even

regarding

> > > > other

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> person/subject

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Good that I removed the Pearl. I am,

however,

> > still

> > > > > > > > > wearing

> > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Diamond in silver ring in my right hand

ring

> > > > finger.

> > > > > > > > > Should

> > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> be removed too? Not that I see any visible

> > > > difference

> > > > > > > > > after

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> wearing it.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you

mean

> > > > Coral

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > case)

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> in gold pendant around the neck. Any

> > suggestions

> > > > for

> > > > > > > > > this.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Secondly, someone suggested I should wear

> > Yellow

> > > > > > > > > Sapphire to

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is

afflicted

> > due

> > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > Rahu's 9th

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> aspect. Is it appropriate?

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> As for dasha and antardasha, I have not

seen

> > good

> > > > > period

> > > > > > > > > > since

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some

> > sporadic

> > > > > gains

> > > > > > > > > > now and

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> then but nothing substantial. I would love

to

> > > > change

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> situation, if I can, and solicit your

advice in

> > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > regard. If

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> you will be kind enough to please give me a

> > clear

> > > > > idea

> > > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> can do.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Sunil

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal

> > Gendarz /<starsuponme@

> > > > > > > > > wp.pl>/*

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

> > > > > > > > > Gemstones

> > > > > > > > > > (Sunil)

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Dear Sunil , Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh

> > with

> > > > > > > > > rahu in

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna

idol/picture

> > to

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> temple/spiritual person.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> You can wear only Coral.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Left hand is usually for malefic being

placed

> > in

> > > > > > > > > > third/ninth

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> - only in dasa of this malefic - instead

use

> > right

> > > > > > > > > hand

> > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> fortune-gem.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari

> > Sadhana

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> worship Hanumanji sincerly!

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be

> > troublesome

> > > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> the strength period (neechavastha) , after

> > initial

> > > > > > > > > > struggle

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> there should be improvement due to

exaltation

> > in

> > > > d9.

> > > > > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> period works for spirituality a lot due to

> > > > karakaamsa

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> position. Rahu AD will give effect of

chandra

> > and

> > > > > > > > > being

> > > > > > > > > > GK

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> it should not be so bad but the twelfth

bhava

> > will

> > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra

and

> > fact

> > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > Mo

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H).

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> www: http://rohinaa. com

<http://www.rohinaa.

> > com/

> > > > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/>

> > > > > > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/ <http://www.rohinaa.

> > com/>>> /

> > > > > > > > > > email:

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Sunil Sharma pisze:

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Dear Maja,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> I fully appreciate your openness about

various

> > > > > > > > > > observations

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> made so far. At least you are better than

me

> > when

> > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > say

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> few charts are clear to you. To me all of

them

> > > > look

> > > > > > > > > > confusing.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> My birth data is as follows:

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> DOB: 21st September 1955

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> TOB: 10:32 A.M.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Like I said earlier, take your time about

it.

> > I am

> > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > in a

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> hurry.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Sunil

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08,

> > > > > > > > > majastrbacastro /<majastrbacastro@

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > <majastrbaca stro@>/*

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> <majastrbaca stro@>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

> > > > > > > > > Gemstones

> > > > > > > > > > (Sunil)

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Dear Sunil,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Namaste

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> My decision

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> to wear that gift I received has nothing

to do

> > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> procedure of determining proper

gemstone It

> > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > just that I wear

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I

find

> > > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > very entertaining

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> to learn about gemstones (not just for

past

> > two

> > > > > > > > > > days), for past

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> month or two I had a few dialogues

regarding

> > > > > > > > > same

> > > > > > > > > > kind of ring that

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> you are wearing right now, and it turned

out

> > it

> > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > not suitable for

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> me when I was about to buy one. What

happened

> > > > > > > > > > yesterday I consider

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear

it

> > for

> > > > > > > > > > few months. (If I

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> suddenly disappear from list it will mean

that

> > > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > was a wrong

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> decision

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Anyway, please give me your birth data. I

> > would

> > > > > > > > > > like to look at

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking

you to

> > > > > > > > > > take it just as an

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> opinion. As I have said on the beginning

of

> > > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > thread I am not

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> quite skilled with this issue, so have

this

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> in mind (Though it was

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> not so difficult for me to say that ruby

is

> > > > > > > > > proper

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> gemstone for

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Neeraj, since positions in his chart are

not

> > so

> > > > > > > > > > confusing as they

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> often could be in various charts. When

> > > > > > > > > positions

> > > > > > > > > > in chart are

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> complicated I choose to say " I don't know "

> > > > > > > > > rather

> > > > > > > > > > than to ruin

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> someone's life.)

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Maja

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> ,

Sunil

> > > > > > > > > > Sharma

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Dear Maja,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > I have been reading each and every

message

> > on

> > > > > > > > > > this thread and, at

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> the outset, was surprised to read about

> > > > > > > > > Neeraj's

> > > > > > > > > > observations.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> However, things became quite clear later

on

> > > > > > > > > > especially with your

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> comments on antardasha.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Your very last sentence in your last

mail

> > > > > > > > > (even

> > > > > > > > > > though chandra is

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> not lording my trines) caught my

attention.

> > > > > > > > > > Debilitated chandra (in

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house

in my

> > > > > > > > > > chart with exalted

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu

> > > > > > > > > conjoining

> > > > > > > > > > moon in

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis).

So,

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > net result is

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though

already

> > > > > > > > > > afflicted due to

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> debilitation) is afflicted. All this is

> > > > > > > > > something

> > > > > > > > > > I have been told

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> by various astrologers (not necessarily

all at

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > same time).

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and

> > > > > > > > > Diamond

> > > > > > > > > > to me. I am still

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> wearing diamond in silver ring on my right

> > hand

> > > > > > > > > > ring finger

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> (presently going through Venus dasha), and

> > > > > > > > > Coral

> > > > > > > > > > in gold pendant in

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring

> > earlier

> > > > > > > > > > but changed it to a

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> pendant and wore it in the neck in a black

> > > > > > > > > string.

> > > > > > > > > > I have since

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> removed it but I must say that whenever I

wear

> > > > > > > > > > Pearl it quietens my

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> temper down. Besides that, I have not

seen any

> > > > > > > > > > improvement in my

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> career or financial aspects.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Now, my real question to you is

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> this. Moon being afflicted and

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> left hand to be used (for the effect to be

> > > > > > > > > > reduced), I should

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> have

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring

finger?

> > You

> > > > > > > > > > may take few days to

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> reply! I am not in a hurry.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Sunil

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro

> > > > > > > > > > <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > majastrbacastro

<majastrbacastro@ ...>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

> > > > > > > > > > Gemstones (Swami)

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Namaste dear Swami,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Listing out all possible solutions of

Sukra

> > > > > > > > > > being unfavorable

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Graha

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > in this chart, those mentioned were the

only

> > > > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > I could find (and

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > that was after quite some time spent in

> > > > > > > > > serious

> > > > > > > > > > thinking). It is

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> my

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > mistake to " equalize " effects of Rudra

and

> > > > > > > > > > Maheshvara in Shula

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> dasa

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > somewhere in my

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> memory, which is apparently wrong.

Anyway, I

> > > > > > > > > did

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> say

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> significance to wear gemstone

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > for it (either to increase or to

decrease).

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > So far I was informed about just a few

rules

> > > > > > > > > > regarding determining

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I

> > > > > > > > > thought

> > > > > > > > > > that Ketu/Rahu

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> could

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > reverse counting only in case if it is

in

> > 8th

> > > > > > > > > > from AK or if Rahu

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful

> > > > > > > > > > information about this

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > issue.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones

issue...

> > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > received one

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > completely unexpected gift today

afternoon:

> > > > > > > > > > silver ring with a

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> pearl

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > and matching silver pectoral also

decorated

> > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > pearls. What is

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > this today...? I was never this much

> > involved

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > any thread so

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> far.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear it,

even

> > > > > > > > > > though Chandra is not

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > lording my trines.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Maja

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > --- In

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> , " swami "

> > > > > > > > > <swami@>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Dear Maja,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Your insights are great, incidently I

was

> > > > > > > > > > struck at your

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> mention

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. .

but I

> > > > > > > > > > don't think

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any

> > > > > > > > > > significance) .

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I could not understand How sukra is

> > > > > > > > > > maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> as

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar planet . that also is appears

> > > > > > > > > incorrect.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with

> > ketu

> > > > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > > > count to 8 th

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> would

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc

> > leads

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > Leo.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > The sign lord is SUN.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so

SUN

> > > > > > > > > > becomes Brahma Planet.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > In such an eventulaty we have to count

8th

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > 12 th from Sun

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> the

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Eight

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is

Jup.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > We apply parashar strength to determne

> > > > > > > > > > strenth.Ketu and jup are

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > both with one planet Jup is in dual

sign so

> > > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > per naisargic bal

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Jup

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > is Maheswar.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > You can check workng referring to

2.1.47

> > > > > > > > > sutra.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Now on thread question of wearing gem

is

> > > > > > > > > > discussed.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih

> > > > > > > > > > knowledge .So Gem stone of

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > planet that is maheswar if put in left

> > should

> > > > > > > > > > diminish

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> knowledge.If

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > worn in Right hand should enhance

learning

> > of

> > > > > > > > > > vedic shahstra.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Perhaps native has tried many gems.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > By the way, influence of wearing

planet

> > > > > > > > > > related to maheshwar is

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > not taught in parampara or in

scriptures,i

> > > > > > > > > could

> > > > > > > > > > access, so this

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > last suggestion may be taken just a

logical

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> aplication.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hope it sets you to think and

experiment.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > with regards.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > OM TATSAT

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ---------

---

> > -

> > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > -- ---------

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Swami_RCS

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- -----

----

> > -

> > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > ----- --------

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious

> > > > > > > > > effulgence

> > > > > > > > > > of that Divine

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Being

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > who has created the three worlds.May He

> > > > > > > > > Direct

> > > > > > > > > > our understanding. "

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- -----

----

> > -

> > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > ----- --------- --------

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> --

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > -

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > -

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > majastrbacastro

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

Choosing

> > > > > > > > > > Gemstones

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev

maybe?),

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing

> > > > > > > > > > zircon on his left

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> hand,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > so

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that means he was weakening his lord

of

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> 10th bhava in 9th...

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> And

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > additionally he was weakening lord of

3rd

> > > > > > > > > > bhava (which is

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > considered

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also

> > > > > > > > > > maheshvara.. . but I don't

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > think

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any

> > > > > > > > > > significance) .

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I really dislike complicating simple

> > > > > > > > > things,

> > > > > > > > > > but this time I

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> can

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > not

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is

in

> > > > > > > > > > Dhanu, yet Mithuna is

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > stronger Rasi due to position of

Chandra

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > Guru in it. That

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > means

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as

his

> > > > > > > > > > Arudha Lagna. 12th

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> lord

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from

> > > > > > > > > Arudha

> > > > > > > > > > Lagna signifies

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > expenses. He was weakening this one

also.

> > > > > > > > > > These are just

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> thoughts...

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Maja

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > --- In

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> , RKM

> > > > > > > > > > <rajeevmundra@ >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Dear Neeraj

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting

in

> > > > > > > > > 9th

> > > > > > > > > > house which is a

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Royal

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Yoga.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have

> > > > > > > > > > helped you grow in your

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > career.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be

very

> > > > > > > > > > suitable.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > Moon. -ve.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -

ve

> > > > > > > > > > (but ok if malefic

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > debiliated in 12th

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > house)

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and

> > > > > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> of 8th house.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and

> > > > > > > > > relatively

> > > > > > > > > > unafflicted is

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > working

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> best.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Suns stone would probably give you

> > > > > > > > > better

> > > > > > > > > > health and overall

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > luck.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > But venus will cause growth in

career.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > --

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Ã'Ã...Ã² Ã'Ã " Ã0/00Ã'Ã " Ã?Ã'Ã " f

> > > > > > > > > > Ã'Ã " Â´Ã'Ã " Æ'Ã'Ã " Â²Ã'Ã " Â¬Ã'Ã " Ã?

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > RKM

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM,

yasoda

> > > > > > > > > > krsna

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> <yasodakrsna@ >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus

of

> > > > > > > > > SJC

> > > > > > > > > > have made error.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Particularly in my case was

> > > > > > > > > recommended

> > > > > > > > > > Coral by one,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Ruby

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > by

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > two.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> recommended quality

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > gemologist.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > This gemstone recommendation was

not

> > > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > internet

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> questions

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > but

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > by paid

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > services.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The good thing was the price of

gold

> > > > > > > > > > soared and made good

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > money

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > by selling

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > it.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath

> > > > > > > > > recommendation

> > > > > > > > > > of yellow

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> sapphire

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > as

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > it works.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their

> > > > > > > > > > Devata for the

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> prediction

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > to

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > be true.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Yasoda.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than

> > > > > > > > > > gemstone if sincere

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_

> > > > > > > > > 2000@>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > vedic astrology@ .

com;

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008

11:59:41 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru]

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Choosing Gemstones

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > It's been more than four years

that I

> > > > > > > > > > studied

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> different

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > books on

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstones

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > and got advise from different good

> > > > > > > > > > astrologers about the

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstone. But none

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > of them gave very good result.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > As of now, some of the following

> > > > > > > > > > theories are present for

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > choosing

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > gemstone.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> (recommended by many

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> astrologers)

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of

1,

> > > > > > > > > 5,

> > > > > > > > > > and 9) - Anukool

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics

(Partikool)

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > However, I recently found that one

> > > > > > > > > > gemstone worked very

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> well

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > for

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > me. After

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wearing that I got a very good

> > > > > > > > > results

> > > > > > > > > > in my career and

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> also

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > my

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > income

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > increased by more than 100% in

> > > > > > > > > approx. 4

> > > > > > > > > > months.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not

> > > > > > > > > recommended

> > > > > > > > > > to me by any

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > astrologer

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > (though I

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > consulted several ones in person)

and

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > no such book it

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> was

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > mentioned that

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > I should choose this gemstone. I read

> > > > > > > > > > approximately 8-10

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > books

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > on gem

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the

forums, I

> > > > > > > > > > was not advised to

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > wear

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > this gemstone.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby,

> > > > > > > > > > Yellow Sapphire and

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Red

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Coral

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > different astrologers. One even

> > > > > > > > > advised

> > > > > > > > > > blue sapphire,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> that

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > made

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > matters

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > worse.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth

details

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > then I will tell

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > gem

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > stone that

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > worked for me.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The gemstone that worked was

Zircon

> > > > > > > > > > (Substitute of

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Diamond).

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > I

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > worn this in

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and

> > > > > > > > > things

> > > > > > > > > > started working

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > positive

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > automatically. I didn't did any

thing

> > > > > > > > > > exceptional in

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> my

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > personal / work

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > life. Now there are somethings to

be

> > > > > > > > > > noted.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. It's not lord of

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> trines.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not

> > > > > > > > > running.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Still, it gave me good results.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a

way

> > > > > > > > > > that may be tried

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> if

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > some

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > to try. Please share your

results, so

> > > > > > > > > > that we can know

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> more

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > about this.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in

> > > > > > > > > 1,5,9

> > > > > > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava

Chart. If

> > > > > > > > > > any of the planets

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > that

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > were in 1,5,9

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > house moves to

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> some other house, ignore that planet.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in

Trines

> > > > > > > > > > (1,5,9) in both natal

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > chart

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> bhava

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore

> > > > > > > > > rahu,

> > > > > > > > > > ketu)

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was

found

> > > > > > > > > till

> > > > > > > > > > step 3 is

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> benefic

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > for

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > your

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then

choose

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > main gemstone of

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > that

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > planet and

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wear it in the right hand.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the

planet

> > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > was found in

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> step

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> 3

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > is

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > malefic,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > then choose the substitute gem for

> > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > planet and wear

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> it

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > in

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > the left hand.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > The above was just a thought that came

to my

> > > > > > > > > > mind and if

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > some

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants to

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > try it, they may do so for

> > > > > > > > > experiment.

> > > > > > > > > > Kindly share with

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > other

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > members, if

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > this method works for you.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum

of the

> > > > > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari

> > > > > > > > > > Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember

> > Akbar

> > > > > > > > > > the Great who said

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> that the human

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > stomach should not become a graveyard

for

> > > > > > > > > > animals.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > (3) Practice charity in thought and

deed -

> > do

> > > > > > > > > > one free chart

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> reading

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > today

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Links

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of

the

> > > > > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari

> > > > > > > > > Mantra 'Hare

> > > > > > > > > > Rama Krishna'

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember

Akbar

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > Great who said that the human

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> stomach should not become a graveyard for

> > > > > > > > > animals.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed -

do

> > > > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > free chart reading

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> today

July 15, 2008

kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear Maja, Namaskar

1. Ok. nothing personal from your side also

2. Yes, Shukra is heavy afflicted - but in d9 uccha also;) but yes ak,

lagnesh involved make this very intense, deep and personal experience

related to relationship. Poor girl.. she should worship Trayambaka

Jyotirlinga or Ganesha.

3. I have that luxury that 90% of my clients are quite spiritual people

(Ke in 7 and Pravrajayoga in fifth with A7 lord). Even in Poland in 90%

I do the readings for Isckon people. I love to talk and help spiritual

people about their karma as its more simple and easy to make them aware

about the problem & solution. I must admit that its often quite

good lessons for me. So from that perspective I feel I am quite

fortunate. Karma connected to Dharma (tenth lord in fifth with ninth

lord) is very auspicious and I thank God for that opportunity.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.com /

email:

rafal

Maja Strbac pisze:

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Rafal Ji,

Namaste

(For just in case I shall reply on your email with following,

because sometimes I can "feel" someone's mood when I read his emails)

Wait a minute. Hold it. Relax, please! I gave myself a promise that

last time I had done something, that you might think I was doing is

my last email to you, is really my LAST time! I keep my promises. My

last email was personal, but NOT personal AGAINST you, honestly. Do

I have to add it each and every time that it is nothing personal

against you? (It would be useful if we could attach our facial

expressions to our emails as well

Some of the worst charts that I have ever seen in my life belong to

my closest friends. Even though I have more than one hour to talk to

them it is very hard to be helpful for most of them precisely

because of reasons I was mentioning. I fall apart when I see someone

in tears, problem or pain, but I take it much harder to have part of

solution available for them (aside from being just a big listening

ear), and yet it is useless because very few are ready to accept it

and follow it.

I was just thinking that you had to have similar experiences

sometimes with your clients from your country.

Example of worst chart: 09th of August 1978 at 12 35 PM 20 E 30; 44

N 50; time zone 01 hour East of GMT. That is just illustration. If

you had ever seen worst Sukra in someone's chart, please let me

know. She is a friend, of course. (She had a full reading don't

worry, I wasn't dealing with this personally. Now I can just hope

that she is doing her remedies on regular basis)

My best friend stopped fasting on UL lord few months ago…

My own brother and father belong to category "never mention that

there is such thing like mantra". They would never understand it…

There is a lot of people around me who I can not simply say "it is

good for spirituality" not even if I have a whole week available to

elaborate this sentence. I live in such country unfortunately. So,

in some cases I chose not to mention anything from chart and what it

means. In those cases I am just a big listening ear when I am asked

for.

(I hope that there was no need at all to write this email. In case

there was a misunderstanding, I hope that it is cleared out now)

Regards,

Maja

Hari Om Tat Sat

sohamsa ,

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> Dear Maja, Namaskar

>

> It was nothing personal. To realize and live by this truth vijnana

and

> not only jnana is important - this demands a lot of effort for few

> births (*bahunam* janmanam ante jnanavan mam prapadyate - Gita).

So

> there are various level of awarness (thinking, feeling, willing -

> actions of mana). Yes, generally we can advise spiritual direction

> always, but we can be more caring for those who are ready for it.

The

> fact about suffering (moksha konas are in 66% ruled in karaka

level by

> Shani) is not only connected to Hinduism but to whole spectrum of

> faiths. Also the suffering is not necessary (raja, rajarishi and

rishi)

> but it can be helpful for some cases - therefore AK in 80% gives

suffering.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> www: http://rohinaa.com

/ email: rafal

>

> Maja Strbac pisze:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Dear Rafal Ji,

> > Namaste

> >

> > Would it surprise you to learn that basically I am aware of

> > spiritual point of view? Maybe not with such details who said

what

> > and when, but main point, I am aware of it. Besides, I mostly

used

> > past tenses in my previous email (additional to this,

recently I

was

> > through AD/MD that "clicked on" that parivartana in my chart).

> >

> > Let's say a "regular civilian" who is not involved too much in

> > spirituality and has family and kids to feed could take such

> > information very hard. That is my point. You live in a

country

where

> > Hinduism is not widely spread religion (so do I). It is hard

> > to "convert" someone's way of thinking in one hour, which is

average

> > duration of Jyotish reading.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Maja

> >

> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> >

> > sohamsa

<sohamsa%

40>,

> > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > Dear Maja , Namaskar

> > >

> > > Srimati Kunti in Bhagavatam prays for the suffering as

they

bring

> > closer

> > > one to God. From spiritual point of view which is the

only view

> > > everything what makes one closer to God its most

auspicious.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > www: http://rohinaa.com

<http://rohinaa.com>

/ email: rafal@

> > >

> > > Maja Strbac pisze:

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Namaste dear Anna (hey there, another girl!?

Welcome!!!),

> > > >

> > > > I hope that you are not having a plan to just sit

there and

read

> > > > this list. Maybe you could write something yourself

from

time to

> > > > time. It would be nice (and useful for learning).

Though I

think

> > > > that you wrote something recently, maybe a month

ago? Your

name

> > and

> > > > ID seems familiar to me.

> > > >

> > > > I wish if I could help you more about your

question. We are

both

> > in

> > > > the same position I am afraid. I don't know...

Right now I am

> > just

> > > > holding my fingers crossed and hoping that this

explanation

we

> > are

> > > > both waiting is not about "it is a blessing for

spirituality". My

> > > > blood pressure is rising when I hear that. One of

first few

> > > > sentences about Jyotish that I have learned was

similar to

this.

> > It

> > > > was regarding my current MD. This person told me

"It is bad

for

> > > > health, career, finances..." I asked "until when?"

and got

> > > > reply "Until 2010" (It was back in February of

2006. Can you

> > guess

> > > > how I felt to hear this?). Then he added "But it is

great for

> > > > spirituality" (And it was few months before I have

even

heard of

> > > > SJC). I was like "Oh, great, now I feel much

better..." (Of

> > course I

> > > > was ironic). So, now you know what it means when

Jyotisha

> > predicts a

> > > > great period for spirituality. For 99% of world

wide

population

> > it

> > > > means that one should start digging hole in the

ground and

fill

> > bags

> > > > with sand. (But it turned out I am ok in "My

spirituality". I

> > > > started to like it

> > > >

> > > > I am waiting with you...

> > > >

> > > > P.S. I appreciate people who appreciate honest and

open

minded

> > > > people.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Maja

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa

<sohamsa%

40>

> > <sohamsa%

> > 40>,

> > > > 108ar <bona_mente@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Raphal and Maja,

> > > > > I am dying to learn why/when 'Badhakesh can be

blessing

for an

> > > > individual, as Raphael wrote.

> > > > > btw. I read all your posts with interest, I

appreciate that

> > > > you both are honest and open-minded astrol's

> > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > Anna

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Maja Strbac

<majastrbacastro@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@>

> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

Choosing Gemstones

> > (Rafal

> > > > Ji)

> > > > > sohamsa

<sohamsa%

40>

> > <sohamsa%40>

> > > > > Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:02 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste dear Rafal Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Okay... let me finally introduce myself: My

name is Maja

and I

> > > > have

> > > > > no idea yet what is the art design for front

page of "Vedic

> > > > > remedies" by Sanjay Rath, but I am about to

find it out

till

> > the

> > > > end

> > > > > of this month when friend of mine is supposed

to come back

from

> > > > > India with my copy of this book. Nice to meet

you too.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. You see, that list of "NO" points are what

I have

learned so

> > > > far

> > > > > about gemstones, so when you take it in

consideration, the

only

> > > > > conclusion I can make for now is that there is

no suitable

> > > > gemstone

> > > > > I can prescribe for any Kanya lagna (including

myself, and

> > (still

> > > > > only with taking that list in consideration)

especially

> > because of

> > > > > Sk in trika bhava). That is the reason why I

wrote that I

find

> > > > that

> > > > > list very frustrating. Of course, another

reason is that I

> > assumed

> > > > > that there must be deeper story behind those

points I

wrote,

> > > > except

> > > > > I haven't got that far yet (I don't have a

plan to stop

myself

> > > > here

> > > > > with gemstones, don't worry). I'll trust you

on that advice

> > about

> > > > > diamond exactly because I understand that this

list is

not "the

> > > > edge

> > > > > of the world" about criteria for choosing. But

it is nice

to

> > find

> > > > > out at the same time that I can advice diamond

to a friend

of

> > mine

> > > > > who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is in 9th

bhava. If I am

o.k.

> > she

> > > > > is going to bloom with diamond. As I

understand in her case

> > there

> > > > is

> > > > > no single reason to avoid it.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. Well I am at the kinder garden level with

gemstones. I

just

> > > > play

> > > > > with that a little. (But mantras are still...

There I am a

new

> > born

> > > > > baby) Right now I am doing everything possible

from my

> > position to

> > > > > get closer to elementary school. (Don't take

personally

> > following

> > > > > lines, please. It is nothing pointed to you.)

"Badhakesh

many

> > > > times

> > > > > is blessing to the native". From the

perspective of kinder

> > garden

> > > > I

> > > > > can give no knowledgably comment on this

sentence. By the

time

> > I

> > > > > reach that deeper perspective I just hope that

I shall not

meet

> > > > with

> > > > > explanation that sounds like "If you focus

real hard you

can

> > prove

> > > > > hypothesis that elephant can hang over from a

cliff with

his

> > tail

> > > > > holding to a daisy", because I ran off from

Western

Astrology

> > > > > exactly because of such things. I would take

it real hard

to

> > > > > disappoint in Jyotish. That explanation better

be very

good and

> > > > > reasonable.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Maja

> > > > >

> > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz

> > <starsuponme@ ...>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Why is it frustrating for Kanya with

Shukra in trika?

Do

> > you

> > > > > mean it

> > > > > > takes away the viveka to choose a gem as

general or its

> > > > > problematic to

> > > > > > choose a gem for you? For your chart its

diamond..easy.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. In choosing a gem the planet

(gem-karaka) should

bless one

> > > > with

> > > > > the

> > > > > > material / emotional goods. So dusthana,

maraka,

badhakesh,

> > > > neelam

> > > > > can

> > > > > > be good depending on a chart - as they

can provide goods

to

> > the

> > > > > native.

> > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center tries to teach class

of astrologers

> > which

> > > > > will rise

> > > > > > above those generalizations like

'dusthana is bad,

maraka is

> > > > bad,

> > > > > > badhakesh is bad' etc..thats kindergarden

astrology.

> > Badhakesh

> > > > > many

> > > > > > times is blessing to the native.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal@

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ohh... so that was the catch! Thank

you very much.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is just that I find following

list very frustrating

> > > > sometimes:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lord of 2nd & 7th, maraka-NO!

> > > > > > > Lord of 6, 8 & 12th, dustahn-NO!

> > > > > > > Lord of 3rd & 11th, trika-NO!

> > > > > > > Graha in dustahn-NO!

> > > > > > > Graha in trika-NO!

> > > > > > > Badhakesh-NO!

> > > > > > > Blue sapphire-NO!

> > > > > > > Green emerald-NO!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > (I also find it very frustrating

because I am Kanya

lagna

> > with

> > > > > Sukra

> > > > > > > in trika bhava

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Maja

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

<sohamsa%

> > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > Dear Maja & SS , Namaskar

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Usually we perscribe gems for

kona lords to increase

the

> > > > rise,

> > > > > > > fortune

> > > > > > > > and wealth of native.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Here Mangal is unafflicted and

wellplaced so it will

give

> > > > > effect

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > Lagnesh and not sixth lord.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Instead Shani will give effect

of sixth lord giving

> > problem

> > > > to

> > > > > > > pitta and

> > > > > > > > tridoshic problems of genital

area/anus (right side)

(82-

> > 91).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.

com> /

email:

> > > > rafal@

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I don't have to write too

much, question is same

(down

> > > > there

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > previous email from SS).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Help us?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Maja

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > sohamsa@

..com <sohamsa%

> > > > > 40. com>

> > > > > > > <sohamsa%

> > > > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > "Soul Sadhak"

<soulsadhak@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Please can you advise

why Coral will be

appropriate

> > even

> > > > > though

> > > > > > > > > Mars

> > > > > > > > > > is 6th lord?

> > > > > > > > > > Is it because it

lords 9th from AL?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Many thanx

> > > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > > > <sohamsa% 40.

com> <sohamsa%

> > > > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah

narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajarishi,

Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 1. There is yoga

involving 10L and 12L so the

gem

> > will

> > > > > > > activate

> > > > > > > > > it.

> > > > > > > > > > > Parivartana

means that Diamond will activate

Bu in

> > 3

> > > > > from AL

> > > > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > > > afflicts career

life and skills of native.

> > > > > > > > > > > 2. Neck

influences thinking.

> > > > > > > > > > > 3. Planets in 12

from AL gives effect of 4

planet

> > > > > forward in

> > > > > > > > > > kalachakra

> > > > > > > > > > > scheme.

> > > > > > > > > > > 4. This is

especially done for Rahu in badhak.

> > > > Badhakesh

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > corrected by

offering Idol - prasna marga

> > > > > > > > > > > 5. Yes third

bhava is lorded by Shani in

twelfth. I

> > > > > follow

> > > > > > > > > Sanjayji

> > > > > > > > > > who

> > > > > > > > > > > also looks at

lord when bhava is empty.

> > > > > > > > > > > 6. We can do

everything if we know what we are

> > doing.

> > > > > > > Planets in

> > > > > > > > > > lagna,

> > > > > > > > > > > fifth and tenth

eclipses the others.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz /

SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com

<http://rohinaa.

com>

> > > > > > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.

com>> / email:

rafal@

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > rajarshi nandy

pisze:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I was

trying to understand your advise to Mr

> > Sunil.

> > > > It

> > > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > great

> > > > > > > > > > > > if you

could kindly clarify some points

which I

> > > > could

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > understand.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 1)Diamond

could increase the duryoga of 10th

> > lord,

> > > > due

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > yuti

> > > > > > > > > > causing

> > > > > > > > > > > > exchange of

effects?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 2)When is a

ring or a stone to be worn in

neck?

> > What

> > > > > is its

> > > > > > > > > > significance?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Ak Jup is

in 12th from AL. You said it will

> > give

> > > > > effects

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > shani.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Is it

because of the 3rd garha in vara

chakra?

> > But i

> > > > > > > thought

> > > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > > for grahas

sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please

> > tell me

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > exact

> > > > > > > > > > rule.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 4)For the

badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa

> > > > badhaka.

> > > > > In

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > case

> > > > > > > > > > > > shouldnt

the native donate 9 golden eggs to

> > nagraj

> > > > > temple?

> > > > > > > Why

> > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > Krishna

idol donation neeeded?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in

advance,.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > -Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rajarshi

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > /*

> > > > > > > > > > > > *"This

above all: to thine own self be

true!" -

> > > > Hamlet*

> > > > > > > > > > > > */

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- On

*Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal

Gendarz /<starsuponme@

> > > > >/*

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal

Gendarz <starsuponme@ >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject:

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

> > Gemstones

> > > > > > > > > (Sunil)

> > > > > > > > > > > > To:

> > > > > > > <srijagannat

h%40. com>

> > > > > > > > > <srijagannat

h%40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > > > Date:

Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem

namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil

, Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Diamond is

forbidden due to parivartana.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal

Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com

/ email:

rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

> > com

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal

Gendarz pisze:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >> *kleem

namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > > > >> Dear

Sunil, Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > > >> 1.

Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth

> > lord

> > > > > which is

> > > > > > > > > > > >>

negative, but will also improve the

finances and

> > > > > > > > > Chandra..so

> > > > > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > > > > >> not

perfect. Coral has less side-effects

here.

> > > > > > > > > > > >> 2. Neck

is for something else, fingers are

for

> > > > karma.

> > > > > > > > > > > >> 3. We

ve been taught to not wear ratnas

> > signified

> > > > by

> > > > > AK.

> > > > > > > > > Irs

> > > > > > > > > > also

> > > > > > > > > > > >> in 12

from AL giving Sa effects on AL.

> > > > > > > > > > > >> 4. Ketu

will give effects of Shukra, so

initial

> > > > > setbacks

> > > > > > > > > > (rasi)

> > > > > > > > > > > >> and

then improvement (navamsa).

> > > > > > > > > > > >> 5. Just

please try to perform those remedies

> > which

> > > > I

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > given

> > > > > > > > > > > >> in the

last mail.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > > >> Altough

Kalasarpa is not so active already,

the

> > > > Sarpa

> > > > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > >> broken

and the ninth lord should be lifted -

> > > > > Bhuvanesvari.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>

Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu

> > should be

> > > > > > > > > remedied

> > > > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > >> gift of

idol/picture related to Sri Krishna.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > > >> Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > >> Rafal

Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > > > > >> www: http://rohinaa. com

/ email:

> > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

> > > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > > >> Sunil

Sharma pisze:

> > > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

Dear Rafal ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

Thank you very much for your guidance. I

like

> > to

> > > > hear

> > > > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

comments, not just about me, but even

regarding

> > > > other

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

person/subject

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

Good that I removed the Pearl. I am,

however,

> > still

> > > > > > > > > wearing

> > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

Diamond in silver ring in my right hand

ring

> > > > finger.

> > > > > > > > > Should

> > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> be

removed too? Not that I see any visible

> > > > difference

> > > > > > > > > after

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

wearing it.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> I

wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you

mean

> > > > Coral

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > case)

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> in

gold pendant around the neck. Any

> > suggestions

> > > > for

> > > > > > > > > this.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

Secondly, someone suggested I should wear

> > Yellow

> > > > > > > > > Sapphire to

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is

afflicted

> > due

> > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > Rahu's 9th

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

aspect. Is it appropriate?

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> As

for dasha and antardasha, I have not

seen

> > good

> > > > > period

> > > > > > > > > > since

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> the

beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some

> > sporadic

> > > > > gains

> > > > > > > > > > now and

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

then but nothing substantial. I would love

to

> > > > change

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

situation, if I can, and solicit your

advice in

> > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > regard. If

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> you

will be kind enough to please give me a

> > clear

> > > > > idea

> > > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> can

do.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

Sunil

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> ---

On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal

> > Gendarz /<starsuponme@

> > > > > > > > > wp.pl>/*

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

> > > > > > > > > Gemstones

> > > > > > > > > > (Sunil)

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> To:

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

*kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

Dear Sunil , Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> You

cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh

> > with

> > > > > > > > > rahu in

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna

idol/picture

> > to

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

temple/spiritual person.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> You

can wear only Coral.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

Left hand is usually for malefic being

placed

> > in

> > > > > > > > > > third/ninth

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> -

only in dasa of this malefic - instead

use

> > right

> > > > > > > > > hand

> > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

fortune-gem.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari

> > Sadhana

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

worship Hanumanji sincerly!

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be

> > troublesome

> > > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> the

strength period (neechavastha) , after

> > initial

> > > > > > > > > > struggle

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

there should be improvement due to

exaltation

> > in

> > > > d9.

> > > > > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

period works for spirituality a lot due to

> > > > karakaamsa

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

position. Rahu AD will give effect of

chandra

> > and

> > > > > > > > > being

> > > > > > > > > > GK

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> it

should not be so bad but the twelfth

bhava

> > will

> > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra

and

> > fact

> > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > Mo

> > > > > > > > > > > >>> in

Lg eclipse Bu in 12H).

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

www: http://rohinaa.

com

<http://www.rohinaa.

> > com/

> > > > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/>

> > > > > > > > > <http://www.rohinaa.

com/ <http://www.rohinaa.

> > com/>>> /

> > > > > > > > > > email:

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>

Sunil Sharma pisze:

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Dear Maja,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

I fully appreciate your openness about

various

> > > > > > > > > > observations

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

made so far. At least you are better than

me

> > when

> > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > say

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

few charts are clear to you. To me all of

them

> > > > look

> > > > > > > > > > confusing.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

My birth data is as follows:

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

DOB: 21st September 1955

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

TOB: 10:32 A.M.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Like I said earlier, take your time about

it.

> > I am

> > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > in a

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

hurry.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Sunil

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

--- On *Sun, 7/6/08,

> > > > > > > > > majastrbacastro

/<majastrbacastro@

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> <majastrbaca stro@>/*

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

> > > > > > > > > Gemstones

> > > > > > > > > > (Sunil)

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Dear Sunil,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Namaste

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

My decision

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

to wear that gift I received has nothing

to do

> > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

procedure of determining proper

gemstone It

> > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > just that I wear

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I

find

> > > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > very entertaining

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

to learn about gemstones (not just for

past

> > two

> > > > > > > > > > days), for past

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

month or two I had a few dialogues

regarding

> > > > > > > > > same

> > > > > > > > > > kind of ring that

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

you are wearing right now, and it turned

out

> > it

> > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > not suitable for

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

me when I was about to buy one. What

happened

> > > > > > > > > > yesterday I consider

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear

it

> > for

> > > > > > > > > > few months. (If I

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

suddenly disappear from list it will mean

that

> > > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > was a wrong

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

decision

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Anyway, please give me your birth data. I

> > would

> > > > > > > > > > like to look at

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking

you to

> > > > > > > > > > take it just as an

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

opinion. As I have said on the beginning

of

> > > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > thread I am not

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

quite skilled with this issue, so have

this

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

in mind (Though it was

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

not so difficult for me to say that ruby

is

> > > > > > > > > proper

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

gemstone for

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Neeraj, since positions in his chart are

not

> > so

> > > > > > > > > > confusing as they

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

often could be in various charts. When

> > > > > > > > > positions

> > > > > > > > > > in chart are

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

complicated I choose to say "I don't know"

> > > > > > > > > rather

> > > > > > > > > > than to ruin

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

someone's life.)

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Maja

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

,

Sunil

> > > > > > > > > > Sharma

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

<sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> Dear Maja,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> I have been reading each and every

message

> > on

> > > > > > > > > > this thread and, at

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

the outset, was surprised to read about

> > > > > > > > > Neeraj's

> > > > > > > > > > observations.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

However, things became quite clear later

on

> > > > > > > > > > especially with your

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

comments on antardasha.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> Your very last sentence in your last

mail

> > > > > > > > > (even

> > > > > > > > > > though chandra is

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

not lording my trines) caught my

attention.

> > > > > > > > > > Debilitated chandra

(in

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house

in my

> > > > > > > > > > chart with exalted

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Atmakaraka

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu

> > > > > > > > > conjoining

> > > > > > > > > > moon in

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis).

So,

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > net result is

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though

already

> > > > > > > > > > afflicted due to

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

debilitation) is afflicted. All this is

> > > > > > > > > something

> > > > > > > > > > I have been told

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

by various astrologers (not necessarily

all at

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > same time).

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and

> > > > > > > > > Diamond

> > > > > > > > > > to me. I am still

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

wearing diamond in silver ring on my right

> > hand

> > > > > > > > > > ring finger

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

(presently going through Venus dasha), and

> > > > > > > > > Coral

> > > > > > > > > > in gold pendant in

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring

> > earlier

> > > > > > > > > > but changed it to a

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

pendant and wore it in the neck in a black

> > > > > > > > > string.

> > > > > > > > > > I have since

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

removed it but I must say that whenever I

wear

> > > > > > > > > > Pearl it quietens my

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

temper down. Besides that, I have not

seen any

> > > > > > > > > > improvement in my

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

career or financial aspects.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> Now, my real question to you is

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

this. Moon being afflicted and

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

left hand to be used (for the effect to be

> > > > > > > > > > reduced), I should

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

have

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

worn the Pearl in my left hand ring

finger?

> > You

> > > > > > > > > > may take few days to

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

reply! I am not in a hurry.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> Sunil

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro

> > > > > > > > > > <majastrbacastro@

....> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> majastrbacastro

<majastrbacastro@ ...>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

> > > > > > > > > > Gemstones (Swami)

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> Namaste dear Swami,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> Listing out all possible solutions of

Sukra

> > > > > > > > > > being unfavorable

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Graha

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> in this chart, those mentioned were the

only

> > > > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > I could find (and

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> that was after quite some time spent in

> > > > > > > > > serious

> > > > > > > > > > thinking). It is

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

my

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra

and

> > > > > > > > > > Maheshvara in Shula

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

dasa

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> somewhere in my

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

memory, which is apparently wrong.

Anyway, I

> > > > > > > > > did

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

say

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> that I sincerely doubt it is of any

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

significance to wear gemstone

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> for it (either to increase or to

decrease).

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> So far I was informed about just a few

rules

> > > > > > > > > > regarding determining

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I

> > > > > > > > > thought

> > > > > > > > > > that Ketu/Rahu

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

could

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> reverse counting only in case if it is

in

> > 8th

> > > > > > > > > > from AK or if Rahu

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful

> > > > > > > > > > information about this

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> issue.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> P.S. All this long day on gemstones

issue...

> > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > received one

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> completely unexpected gift today

afternoon:

> > > > > > > > > > silver ring with a

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

pearl

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> and matching silver pectoral also

decorated

> > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > pearls. What is

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> this today...? I was never this much

> > involved

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > any thread so

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

far.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear it,

even

> > > > > > > > > > though Chandra is not

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> lording my trines.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> Maja

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> --- In

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

, "swami"

> > > > > > > > > <swami@>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > Hari Om,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > Dear Maja,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > Your insights are great, incidently I

was

> > > > > > > > > > struck at your

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

mention

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. .

but I

> > > > > > > > > > don't think

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > that this latter one could be of any

> > > > > > > > > > significance) .

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > I could not understand How sukra is

> > > > > > > > > > maheshwar.J hora

gives Ketu

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

as

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> maheswar planet . that also is appears

> > > > > > > > > incorrect.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with

> > ketu

> > > > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > > > count to 8 th

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

would

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc

> > leads

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > Leo.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > The sign lord is SUN.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so

SUN

> > > > > > > > > > becomes Brahma Planet.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> In such an eventulaty we have to count

8th

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > 12 th from Sun

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

the

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> maheswar.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > Eight

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is

Jup.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > We apply parashar strength to determne

> > > > > > > > > > strenth.Ketu and jup

are

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> both with one planet Jup is in dual

sign so

> > > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > per naisargic bal

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Jup

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> is Maheswar.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > You can check workng referring to

2.1.47

> > > > > > > > > sutra.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > Now on thread question of wearing gem

is

> > > > > > > > > > discussed.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > Maheswar planet is associated wih

> > > > > > > > > > knowledge .So Gem

stone of

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> planet that is maheswar if put in left

> > should

> > > > > > > > > > diminish

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

knowledge.If

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> worn in Right hand should enhance

learning

> > of

> > > > > > > > > > vedic shahstra.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > Perhaps native has tried many gems.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > By the way, influence of wearing

planet

> > > > > > > > > > related to maheshwar

is

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> not taught in parampara or in

scriptures,i

> > > > > > > > > could

> > > > > > > > > > access, so this

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> last suggestion may be taken just a

logical

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

aplication.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > Hope it sets you to think and

experiment.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > with regards.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > OM TATSAT

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

------------ --------- --------- ---------

---

> > -

> > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > -- ---------

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > Swami_RCS

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > ------------ --------- --------- -----

----

> > -

> > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > ----- --------

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > " Let us meditate on the glorious

> > > > > > > > > effulgence

> > > > > > > > > > of that Divine

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Being

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> who has created the three worlds.May He

> > > > > > > > > Direct

> > > > > > > > > > our understanding. "

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > ------------ --------- --------- -----

----

> > -

> > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > ----- ---------

--------

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

--

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> -

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > -

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > majastrbacastro

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

Choosing

> > > > > > > > > > Gemstones

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev

maybe?),

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing

> > > > > > > > > > zircon on his left

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

hand,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> so

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > that means he was weakening his lord

of

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

10th bhava in 9th...

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

And

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > additionally he was weakening lord of

3rd

> > > > > > > > > > bhava (which is

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> considered

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also

> > > > > > > > > > maheshvara.. . but I

don't

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> think

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > that this latter one could be of any

> > > > > > > > > > significance) .

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > I really dislike complicating simple

> > > > > > > > > things,

> > > > > > > > > > but this time I

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

can

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> not

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is

in

> > > > > > > > > > Dhanu, yet Mithuna is

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > stronger Rasi due to position of

Chandra

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > Guru in it. That

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> means

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as

his

> > > > > > > > > > Arudha Lagna. 12th

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

lord

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from

> > > > > > > > > Arudha

> > > > > > > > > > Lagna signifies

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > expenses. He was weakening this one

also.

> > > > > > > > > > These are just

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

thoughts...

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > Maja

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > --- In

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

, RKM

> > > > > > > > > > <rajeevmundra@ >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > Dear Neeraj

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting

in

> > > > > > > > > 9th

> > > > > > > > > > house which is a

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> Royal

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > Yoga.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have

> > > > > > > > > > helped you grow in

your

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > career.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > Rest all planets seems not to be

very

> > > > > > > > > > suitable.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > Moon. -ve.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -

ve

> > > > > > > > > > (but ok if malefic

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > debiliated in 12th

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > house)

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and

> > > > > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

of 8th house.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and

> > > > > > > > > relatively

> > > > > > > > > > unafflicted is

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> working

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > the

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

best.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > Suns stone would probably give you

> > > > > > > > > better

> > > > > > > > > > health and overall

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> luck.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > But venus will cause growth in

career.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > --

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > Ã'Ã...Ã² Ã'Ã"Ã0/00Ã'Ã"Ã?Ã'Ã"f

> > > > > > > > > >

Ã'Ã"Â´Ã'Ã"Æ'Ã'Ã"Â²Ã'Ã"Â¬Ã'Ã"Ã?

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > RKM

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM,

yasoda

> > > > > > > > > > krsna

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

<yasodakrsna@ >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > Neeraj,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus

of

> > > > > > > > > SJC

> > > > > > > > > > have made error.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > Particularly in my case was

> > > > > > > > > recommended

> > > > > > > > > > Coral by one,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Ruby

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> by

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > two.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > Both gemstones were purchased by

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

recommended quality

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> gemologist.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > This gemstone recommendation was

not

> > > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > internet

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

questions

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> but

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> by paid

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > services.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > The good thing was the price of

gold

> > > > > > > > > > soared and made good

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> money

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > by selling

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > it.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > I still value Sanjay Rath

> > > > > > > > > recommendation

> > > > > > > > > > of yellow

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

sapphire

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> as

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > it works.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their

> > > > > > > > > > Devata for the

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

prediction

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> to

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > be true.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > Yasoda.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than

> > > > > > > > > > gemstone if sincere

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_

> > > > > > > > > 2000@>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > vedic astrology@ .

com;

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > Friday, July 4, 2008

11:59:41 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > [Om Krishna Guru]

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Choosing Gemstones

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > It's been more than four years

that I

> > > > > > > > > > studied

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

different

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> books on

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > gemstones

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > and got advise from different good

> > > > > > > > > > astrologers about the

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > gemstone. But none

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > of them gave very good result.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > As of now, some of the following

> > > > > > > > > > theories are present

for

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > choosing

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > gemstone.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

(recommended by many

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

astrologers)

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of

1,

> > > > > > > > > 5,

> > > > > > > > > > and 9) - Anukool

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics

(Partikool)

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > However, I recently found that one

> > > > > > > > > > gemstone worked very

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

well

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> for

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > me. After

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > wearing that I got a very good

> > > > > > > > > results

> > > > > > > > > > in my career and

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

also

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> my

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > income

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > increased by more than 100% in

> > > > > > > > > approx. 4

> > > > > > > > > > months.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > Well, this gem stone was not

> > > > > > > > > recommended

> > > > > > > > > > to me by any

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> astrologer

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > (though I

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > consulted several ones in person)

and

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > no such book it

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

was

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > mentioned that

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> I should choose this gemstone. I read

> > > > > > > > > > approximately 8-10

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> books

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > on gem

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > stones. Also, on any of the

forums, I

> > > > > > > > > > was not advised to

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> wear

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > this gemstone.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby,

> > > > > > > > > > Yellow Sapphire and

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Red

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> Coral

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > by

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > different astrologers. One even

> > > > > > > > > advised

> > > > > > > > > > blue sapphire,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

that

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> made

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > matters

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > worse.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > So, let me tell you my birth

details

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > then I will tell

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> gem

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > stone that

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > worked for me.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > The gemstone that worked was

Zircon

> > > > > > > > > > (Substitute of

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Diamond).

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> I

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > worn this in

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > left hand ring finger in gold and

> > > > > > > > > things

> > > > > > > > > > started working

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> positive

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > automatically. I didn't did any

thing

> > > > > > > > > > exceptional in

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

my

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > personal / work

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > life. Now there are somethings to

be

> > > > > > > > > > noted.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > 1. It's not lord of

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

trines.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not

> > > > > > > > > running.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > Still, it gave me good results.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > On the basis of this, I thought a

way

> > > > > > > > > > that may be tried

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

if

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> some

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > one wants

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > to try. Please share your

results, so

> > > > > > > > > > that we can know

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

more

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > about this.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in

> > > > > > > > > 1,5,9

> > > > > > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava

Chart. If

> > > > > > > > > > any of the planets

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> that

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > were in 1,5,9

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > house moves to

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

some other house, ignore that planet.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > 3. If there is any planet in

Trines

> > > > > > > > > > (1,5,9) in both natal

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> chart

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > and

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

bhava

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore

> > > > > > > > > rahu,

> > > > > > > > > > ketu)

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > 4. Now if the planet that was

found

> > > > > > > > > till

> > > > > > > > > > step 3 is

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

benefic

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> for

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > your

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then

choose

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > main gemstone of

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> that

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > planet and

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > wear it in the right hand.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > 5. On the other hand, if the

planet

> > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > was found in

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

step

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

3

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> is

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > malefic,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > then choose the substitute gem for

> > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > planet and wear

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

it

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> in

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > the left hand.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> The above was just a thought that came

to my

> > > > > > > > > > mind and if

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> some

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > one wants to

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > try it, they may do so for

> > > > > > > > > experiment.

> > > > > > > > > > Kindly share with

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> other

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > members, if

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > this method works for you.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum

of the

> > > > > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari

> > > > > > > > > > Mantra 'Hare Rama

Krishna'

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember

> > Akbar

> > > > > > > > > > the Great who said

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

that the human

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> stomach should not become a graveyard

for

> > > > > > > > > > animals.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> (3) Practice charity in thought and

deed -

> > do

> > > > > > > > > > one free chart

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

reading

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> today

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Links

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

------------ --------- --------- ------

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

~ om tat sat ~

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Thank you for maintaining the decorum of

the

> > > > > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari

> > > > > > > > > Mantra 'Hare

> > > > > > > > > > Rama Krishna'

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember

Akbar

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > Great who said that

the human

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

stomach should not become a graveyard for

> > > > > > > > > animals.

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

(3) Practice charity in thought and deed -

do

> > > > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > free chart reading

> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

today

July 15, 2008

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Rafal Ji,

Namaste

1. Come on, can't you see that I was just a model list member. I was

normally complaining, weeping on your " e shoulder " and asking for

advice.

2. But that was just illustration... You didn't have to suggest

remedies (Admit, there is no " shut down " button in your case .

3. That story you have in your 5th is in my 3rd bhava. I was

recently laughing when I read on Sarajit Poddar's blog that yoga in

3rd bhava is active somewhere around 90th year of life (of all 12

this is the last one in line). There is some good motivation to take

more care of my health and live a long life

Regards,

Maja

Hari Om Tat Sat

sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> Dear Maja, Namaskar

>

> 1. Ok. nothing personal from your side also

>

> 2. Yes, Shukra is heavy afflicted - but in d9 uccha also;) but yes

ak,

> lagnesh involved make this very intense, deep and personal

experience

> related to relationship. Poor girl.. she should worship Trayambaka

> Jyotirlinga or Ganesha.

>

> 3. I have that luxury that 90% of my clients are quite spiritual

people

> (Ke in 7 and Pravrajayoga in fifth with A7 lord). Even in Poland

in 90%

> I do the readings for Isckon people. I love to talk and help

spiritual

> people about their karma as its more simple and easy to make them

aware

> about the problem & solution. I must admit that its often quite

good

> lessons for me. So from that perspective I feel I am quite

fortunate.

> Karma connected to Dharma (tenth lord in fifth with ninth lord) is

very

> auspicious and I thank God for that opportunity.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal

>

> Maja Strbac pisze:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Dear Rafal Ji,

> > Namaste

> >

> > (For just in case I shall reply on your email with following,

> > because sometimes I can " feel " someone's mood when I read his

emails)

> >

> > Wait a minute. Hold it. Relax, please! I gave myself a promise

that

> > last time I had done something, that you might think I was doing

is

> > my last email to you, is really my LAST time! I keep my

promises. My

> > last email was personal, but NOT personal AGAINST you, honestly.

Do

> > I have to add it each and every time that it is nothing personal

> > against you? (It would be useful if we could attach our facial

> > expressions to our emails as well

> >

> > Some of the worst charts that I have ever seen in my life belong

to

> > my closest friends. Even though I have more than one hour to

talk to

> > them it is very hard to be helpful for most of them precisely

> > because of reasons I was mentioning. I fall apart when I see

someone

> > in tears, problem or pain, but I take it much harder to have

part of

> > solution available for them (aside from being just a big

listening

> > ear), and yet it is useless because very few are ready to accept

it

> > and follow it.

> >

> > I was just thinking that you had to have similar experiences

> > sometimes with your clients from your country.

> >

> > Example of worst chart: 09th of August 1978 at 12 35 PM 20 E 30;

44

> > N 50; time zone 01 hour East of GMT. That is just illustration.

If

> > you had ever seen worst Sukra in someone's chart, please let me

> > know. She is a friend, of course. (She had a full reading don't

> > worry, I wasn't dealing with this personally. Now I can just hope

> > that she is doing her remedies on regular basis)

> >

> > My best friend stopped fasting on UL lord few months ago...

> >

> > My own brother and father belong to category " never mention that

> > there is such thing like mantra " . They would never understand

it...

> >

> > There is a lot of people around me who I can not simply say " it

is

> > good for spirituality " not even if I have a whole week available

to

> > elaborate this sentence. I live in such country unfortunately.

So,

> > in some cases I chose not to mention anything from chart and

what it

> > means. In those cases I am just a big listening ear when I am

asked

> > for.

> >

> > (I hope that there was no need at all to write this email. In

case

> > there was a misunderstanding, I hope that it is cleared out now)

> >

> > Regards,

> > Maja

> >

> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> >

> > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40>,

> > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> > >

> > > It was nothing personal. To realize and live by this truth

vijnana

> > and

> > > not only jnana is important - this demands a lot of effort for

few

> > > births (*bahunam* janmanam ante jnanavan mam prapadyate -

Gita).

> > So

> > > there are various level of awarness (thinking, feeling,

willing -

> > > actions of mana). Yes, generally we can advise spiritual

direction

> > > always, but we can be more caring for those who are ready for

it.

> > The

> > > fact about suffering (moksha konas are in 66% ruled in karaka

> > level by

> > > Shani) is not only connected to Hinduism but to whole spectrum

of

> > > faiths. Also the suffering is not necessary (raja, rajarishi

and

> > rishi)

> > > but it can be helpful for some cases - therefore AK in 80%

gives

> > suffering.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > www: http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> / email: rafal@

> > >

> > > Maja Strbac pisze:

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal Ji,

> > > > Namaste

> > > >

> > > > Would it surprise you to learn that basically I am aware of

> > > > spiritual point of view? Maybe not with such details who said

> > what

> > > > and when, but main point, I am aware of it. Besides, I mostly

> > used

> > > > past tenses in my previous email (additional to this,

recently I

> > was

> > > > through AD/MD that " clicked on " that parivartana in my

chart).

> > > >

> > > > Let's say a " regular civilian " who is not involved too much

in

> > > > spirituality and has family and kids to feed could take such

> > > > information very hard. That is my point. You live in a

country

> > where

> > > > Hinduism is not widely spread religion (so do I). It is hard

> > > > to " convert " someone's way of thinking in one hour, which is

> > average

> > > > duration of Jyotish reading.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Maja

> > > >

> > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40>

> > <sohamsa%

> > 40>,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > Dear Maja , Namaskar

> > > > >

> > > > > Srimati Kunti in Bhagavatam prays for the suffering as they

> > bring

> > > > closer

> > > > > one to God. From spiritual point of view which is the only

view

> > > > > everything what makes one closer to God its most

auspicious.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > www: http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>

<http://rohinaa.com

> > <http://rohinaa.com>> / email: rafal@

> > > > >

> > > > > Maja Strbac pisze:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste dear Anna (hey there, another girl!? Welcome!!!),

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I hope that you are not having a plan to just sit there

and

> > read

> > > > > > this list. Maybe you could write something yourself from

> > time to

> > > > > > time. It would be nice (and useful for learning). Though

I

> > think

> > > > > > that you wrote something recently, maybe a month ago?

Your

> > name

> > > > and

> > > > > > ID seems familiar to me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I wish if I could help you more about your question. We

are

> > both

> > > > in

> > > > > > the same position I am afraid. I don't know... Right now

I am

> > > > just

> > > > > > holding my fingers crossed and hoping that this

explanation

> > we

> > > > are

> > > > > > both waiting is not about " it is a blessing for

> > spirituality " . My

> > > > > > blood pressure is rising when I hear that. One of first

few

> > > > > > sentences about Jyotish that I have learned was similar

to

> > this.

> > > > It

> > > > > > was regarding my current MD. This person told me " It is

bad

> > for

> > > > > > health, career, finances... " I asked " until when? " and

got

> > > > > > reply " Until 2010 " (It was back in February of 2006. Can

you

> > > > guess

> > > > > > how I felt to hear this?). Then he added " But it is

great for

> > > > > > spirituality " (And it was few months before I have even

> > heard of

> > > > > > SJC). I was like " Oh, great, now I feel much better... "

(Of

> > > > course I

> > > > > > was ironic). So, now you know what it means when Jyotisha

> > > > predicts a

> > > > > > great period for spirituality. For 99% of world wide

> > population

> > > > it

> > > > > > means that one should start digging hole in the ground

and

> > fill

> > > > bags

> > > > > > with sand. (But it turned out I am ok in " My

> > spirituality " . I

> > > > > > started to like it

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am waiting with you...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > P.S. I appreciate people who appreciate honest and open

> > minded

> > > > > > people.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Maja

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa

> > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa%

> > 40>

> > > > <sohamsa%

> > > > 40>,

> > > > > > 108ar <bona_mente@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Raphal and Maja,

> > > > > > > I am dying to learn why/when 'Badhakesh can be blessing

> > for an

> > > > > > individual, as Raphael wrote.

> > > > > > > btw. I read all your posts with interest, I appreciate

that

> > > > > > you both are honest and open-minded astrol's

> > > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > > > Anna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@>

> > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

Gemstones

> > > > (Rafal

> > > > > > Ji)

> > > > > > > sohamsa

> > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa%

> > 40>

> > > > <sohamsa%40>

> > > > > > > Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:02 PM

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal Ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Okay... let me finally introduce myself: My name is

Maja

> > and I

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > no idea yet what is the art design for front page

of " Vedic

> > > > > > > remedies " by Sanjay Rath, but I am about to find it out

> > till

> > > > the

> > > > > > end

> > > > > > > of this month when friend of mine is supposed to come

back

> > from

> > > > > > > India with my copy of this book. Nice to meet you

too.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. You see, that list of " NO " points are what I have

> > learned so

> > > > > > far

> > > > > > > about gemstones, so when you take it in consideration,

the

> > only

> > > > > > > conclusion I can make for now is that there is no

suitable

> > > > > > gemstone

> > > > > > > I can prescribe for any Kanya lagna (including myself,

and

> > > > (still

> > > > > > > only with taking that list in consideration) especially

> > > > because of

> > > > > > > Sk in trika bhava). That is the reason why I wrote

that I

> > find

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > list very frustrating. Of course, another reason is

that I

> > > > assumed

> > > > > > > that there must be deeper story behind those points I

> > wrote,

> > > > > > except

> > > > > > > I haven't got that far yet (I don't have a plan to stop

> > myself

> > > > > > here

> > > > > > > with gemstones, don't worry). I'll trust you on that

advice

> > > > about

> > > > > > > diamond exactly because I understand that this list is

> > not " the

> > > > > > edge

> > > > > > > of the world " about criteria for choosing. But it is

nice

> > to

> > > > find

> > > > > > > out at the same time that I can advice diamond to a

friend

> > of

> > > > mine

> > > > > > > who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is in 9th bhava. If I

am

> > o.k.

> > > > she

> > > > > > > is going to bloom with diamond. As I understand in her

case

> > > > there

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > no single reason to avoid it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. Well I am at the kinder garden level with

gemstones. I

> > just

> > > > > > play

> > > > > > > with that a little. (But mantras are still... There I

am a

> > new

> > > > born

> > > > > > > baby) Right now I am doing everything possible from my

> > > > position to

> > > > > > > get closer to elementary school. (Don't take personally

> > > > following

> > > > > > > lines, please. It is nothing pointed to

you.) " Badhakesh

> > many

> > > > > > times

> > > > > > > is blessing to the native " . From the perspective of

kinder

> > > > garden

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > can give no knowledgably comment on this sentence. By

the

> > time

> > > > I

> > > > > > > reach that deeper perspective I just hope that I shall

not

> > meet

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > explanation that sounds like " If you focus real hard

you

> > can

> > > > prove

> > > > > > > hypothesis that elephant can hang over from a cliff

with

> > his

> > > > tail

> > > > > > > holding to a daisy " , because I ran off from Western

> > Astrology

> > > > > > > exactly because of such things. I would take it real

hard

> > to

> > > > > > > disappoint in Jyotish. That explanation better be very

> > good and

> > > > > > > reasonable.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Maja

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz

> > > > <starsuponme@ ...>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Why is it frustrating for Kanya with Shukra in

trika?

> > Do

> > > > you

> > > > > > > mean it

> > > > > > > > takes away the viveka to choose a gem as general or

its

> > > > > > > problematic to

> > > > > > > > choose a gem for you? For your chart its

diamond..easy.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. In choosing a gem the planet (gem-karaka) should

> > bless one

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > material / emotional goods. So dusthana, maraka,

> > badhakesh,

> > > > > > neelam

> > > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > be good depending on a chart - as they can provide

goods

> > to

> > > > the

> > > > > > > native.

> > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center tries to teach class of

astrologers

> > > > which

> > > > > > > will rise

> > > > > > > > above those generalizations like 'dusthana is bad,

> > maraka is

> > > > > > bad,

> > > > > > > > badhakesh is bad' etc..thats kindergarden astrology.

> > > > Badhakesh

> > > > > > > many

> > > > > > > > times is blessing to the native.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal@

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ohh... so that was the catch! Thank you very much.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It is just that I find following list very

frustrating

> > > > > > sometimes:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lord of 2nd & 7th, maraka-NO!

> > > > > > > > > Lord of 6, 8 & 12th, dustahn-NO!

> > > > > > > > > Lord of 3rd & 11th, trika-NO!

> > > > > > > > > Graha in dustahn-NO!

> > > > > > > > > Graha in trika-NO!

> > > > > > > > > Badhakesh-NO!

> > > > > > > > > Blue sapphire-NO!

> > > > > > > > > Green emerald-NO!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > (I also find it very frustrating because I am Kanya

> > lagna

> > > > with

> > > > > > > Sukra

> > > > > > > > > in trika bhava

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Maja

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

> > > > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Maja & SS , Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Usually we perscribe gems for kona lords to

increase

> > the

> > > > > > rise,

> > > > > > > > > fortune

> > > > > > > > > > and wealth of native.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Here Mangal is unafflicted and wellplaced so it

will

> > give

> > > > > > > effect

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh and not sixth lord.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Instead Shani will give effect of sixth lord

giving

> > > > problem

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > pitta and

> > > > > > > > > > tridoshic problems of genital area/anus (right

side)

> > (82-

> > > > 91).

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> /

> > email:

> > > > > > rafal@

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I don't have to write too much, question is

same

> > (down

> > > > > > there

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > previous email from SS).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Help us?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Maja

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

<sohamsa%

> > > > > > > 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > <sohamsa%

> > > > > > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > > > " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Please can you advise why Coral will be

> > appropriate

> > > > even

> > > > > > > though

> > > > > > > > > > > Mars

> > > > > > > > > > > > is 6th lord?

> > > > > > > > > > > > Is it because it lords 9th from AL?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanx

> > > > > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>

<sohamsa%

> > > > > > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so

the

> > gem

> > > > will

> > > > > > > > > activate

> > > > > > > > > > > it.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Parivartana means that Diamond will

activate

> > Bu in

> > > > 3

> > > > > > > from AL

> > > > > > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > > > > > afflicts career life and skills of native.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Neck influences thinking.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4

> > planet

> > > > > > > forward in

> > > > > > > > > > > > kalachakra

> > > > > > > > > > > > > scheme.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. This is especially done for Rahu in

badhak.

> > > > > > Badhakesh

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in

> > twelfth. I

> > > > > > > follow

> > > > > > > > > > > Sanjayji

> > > > > > > > > > > > who

> > > > > > > > > > > > > also looks at lord when bhava is empty.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. We can do everything if we know what we

are

> > > > doing.

> > > > > > > > > Planets in

> > > > > > > > > > > > lagna,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > fifth and tenth eclipses the others.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.

com>

> > > > > > > > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> /

email:

> > rafal@

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > rajarshi nandy pisze:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was trying to understand your advise

to Mr

> > > > Sunil.

> > > > > > It

> > > > > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > > great

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you could kindly clarify some points

> > which I

> > > > > > could

> > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > understand.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of

10th

> > > > lord,

> > > > > > due

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > yuti

> > > > > > > > > > > > causing

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > exchange of effects?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in

> > neck?

> > > > What

> > > > > > > is its

> > > > > > > > > > > > significance?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it

will

> > > > give

> > > > > > > effects

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > shani.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara

> > chakra?

> > > > But i

> > > > > > > > > thought

> > > > > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house?

Please

> > > > tell me

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > exact

> > > > > > > > > > > > rule.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a

sarpa

> > > > > > badhaka.

> > > > > > > In

> > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > case

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs

to

> > > > nagraj

> > > > > > > temple?

> > > > > > > > > Why

> > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krishna idol donation neeeded?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajarshi

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > /*

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > * " This above all: to thine own self be

> > true! " -

> > > > > > Hamlet*

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > */

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal

> > Gendarz /<starsuponme@

> > > > > > >/*

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

Choosing

> > > > Gemstones

> > > > > > > > > > > (Sunil)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil , Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email:

> > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

> > > > com

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Dear Sunil, Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> 1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of

tenth

> > > > lord

> > > > > > > which is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> negative, but will also improve the

> > finances and

> > > > > > > > > > > Chandra..so

> > > > > > > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> not perfect. Coral has less side-effects

> > here.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> 2. Neck is for something else, fingers

are

> > for

> > > > > > karma.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> 3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas

> > > > signified

> > > > > > by

> > > > > > > AK.

> > > > > > > > > > > Irs

> > > > > > > > > > > > also

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> 4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so

> > initial

> > > > > > > setbacks

> > > > > > > > > > > > (rasi)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> and then improvement (navamsa).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> 5. Just please try to perform those

remedies

> > > > which

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > > > given

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> in the last mail.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Altough Kalasarpa is not so active

already,

> > the

> > > > > > Sarpa

> > > > > > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> broken and the ninth lord should be

lifted -

> > > > > > > Bhuvanesvari.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Agantuka adrsta problems coming from

Rahu

> > > > should be

> > > > > > > > > > > remedied

> > > > > > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> gift of idol/picture related to Sri

Krishna.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> www: http://rohinaa. com / email:

> > > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Sunil Sharma pisze:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Dear Rafal ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Thank you very much for your guidance.

I

> > like

> > > > to

> > > > > > hear

> > > > > > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> comments, not just about me, but even

> > regarding

> > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> person/subject

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Good that I removed the Pearl. I am,

> > however,

> > > > still

> > > > > > > > > > > wearing

> > > > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Diamond in silver ring in my right hand

> > ring

> > > > > > finger.

> > > > > > > > > > > Should

> > > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> be removed too? Not that I see any

visible

> > > > > > difference

> > > > > > > > > > > after

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> wearing it.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume

you

> > mean

> > > > > > Coral

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > > case)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> in gold pendant around the neck. Any

> > > > suggestions

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > this.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Secondly, someone suggested I should

wear

> > > > Yellow

> > > > > > > > > > > Sapphire to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is

> > afflicted

> > > > due

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu's 9th

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> aspect. Is it appropriate?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> As for dasha and antardasha, I have not

> > seen

> > > > good

> > > > > > > period

> > > > > > > > > > > > since

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993.

Some

> > > > sporadic

> > > > > > > gains

> > > > > > > > > > > > now and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> then but nothing substantial. I would

love

> > to

> > > > > > change

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> situation, if I can, and solicit your

> > advice in

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > > > regard. If

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> you will be kind enough to please give

me a

> > > > clear

> > > > > > > idea

> > > > > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> can do.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Sunil

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal

> > > > Gendarz /<starsuponme@

> > > > > > > > > > > wp.pl>/*

> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@

wp.pl>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

Choosing

> > > > > > > > > > > Gemstones

> > > > > > > > > > > > (Sunil)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Dear Sunil , Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> You cant wear pearl at all as its

badhakesh

> > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > rahu in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna

> > idol/picture

> > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> temple/spiritual person.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> You can wear only Coral.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Left hand is usually for malefic being

> > placed

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > third/ninth

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> - only in dasa of this malefic -

instead

> > use

> > > > right

> > > > > > > > > > > hand

> > > > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> fortune-gem.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Best is to get initiation in

Bhuvanesvari

> > > > Sadhana

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> worship Hanumanji sincerly!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be

> > > > troublesome

> > > > > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> the strength period (neechavastha) ,

after

> > > > initial

> > > > > > > > > > > > struggle

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> there should be improvement due to

> > exaltation

> > > > in

> > > > > > d9.

> > > > > > > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> period works for spirituality a lot

due to

> > > > > > karakaamsa

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> position. Rahu AD will give effect of

> > chandra

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > being

> > > > > > > > > > > > GK

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> it should not be so bad but the twelfth

> > bhava

> > > > will

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-

Ra

> > and

> > > > fact

> > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mo

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> www: http://rohinaa. com

> > <http://www.rohinaa.

> > > > com/

> > > > > > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/>

> > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/ <http://www.rohinaa.

> > > > com/>>> /

> > > > > > > > > > > > email:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Sunil Sharma pisze:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Dear Maja,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> I fully appreciate your openness about

> > various

> > > > > > > > > > > > observations

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> made so far. At least you are better

than

> > me

> > > > when

> > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > say

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> few charts are clear to you. To me

all of

> > them

> > > > > > look

> > > > > > > > > > > > confusing.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> My birth data is as follows:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> DOB: 21st September 1955

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> TOB: 10:32 A.M.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Like I said earlier, take your time

about

> > it.

> > > > I am

> > > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > in a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> hurry.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Sunil

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08,

> > > > > > > > > > > majastrbacastro /<majastrbacastro@

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > <majastrbaca

stro@>/*

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> majastrbacastro

<majastrbacastro@

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> <majastrbaca stro@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

Choosing

> > > > > > > > > > > Gemstones

> > > > > > > > > > > > (Sunil)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Dear Sunil,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Namaste

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> My decision

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> to wear that gift I received has

nothing

> > to do

> > > > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> procedure of determining proper

> > gemstone It

> > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > just that I wear

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> jewelry only on rare occasions,

lately I

> > find

> > > > > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > > > very entertaining

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> to learn about gemstones (not just for

> > past

> > > > two

> > > > > > > > > > > > days), for past

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> month or two I had a few dialogues

> > regarding

> > > > > > > > > > > same

> > > > > > > > > > > > kind of ring that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> you are wearing right now, and it

turned

> > out

> > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > not suitable for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> me when I was about to buy one. What

> > happened

> > > > > > > > > > > > yesterday I consider

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> it to be nice omen, so I decided to

wear

> > it

> > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > few months. (If I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> suddenly disappear from list it will

mean

> > that

> > > > > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > > > was a wrong

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> decision

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Anyway, please give me your birth

data. I

> > > > would

> > > > > > > > > > > > like to look at

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> whole chart. Whatever I say I am

asking

> > you to

> > > > > > > > > > > > take it just as an

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> opinion. As I have said on the

beginning

> > of

> > > > > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > > > thread I am not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> quite skilled with this issue, so have

> > this

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> in mind (Though it was

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> not so difficult for me to say that

ruby

> > is

> > > > > > > > > > > proper

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> gemstone for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Neeraj, since positions in his chart

are

> > not

> > > > so

> > > > > > > > > > > > confusing as they

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> often could be in various charts. When

> > > > > > > > > > > positions

> > > > > > > > > > > > in chart are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> complicated I choose to say " I don't

know "

> > > > > > > > > > > rather

> > > > > > > > > > > > than to ruin

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> someone's life.)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Maja

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> ,

> > Sunil

> > > > > > > > > > > > Sharma

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Dear Maja,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > I have been reading each and every

> > message

> > > > on

> > > > > > > > > > > > this thread and, at

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> the outset, was surprised to read

about

> > > > > > > > > > > Neeraj's

> > > > > > > > > > > > observations.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> However, things became quite clear

later

> > on

> > > > > > > > > > > > especially with your

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> comments on antardasha.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Your very last sentence in your last

> > mail

> > > > > > > > > > > (even

> > > > > > > > > > > > though chandra is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> not lording my trines) caught my

> > attention.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Debilitated chandra (in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th

house

> > in my

> > > > > > > > > > > > chart with exalted

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu

> > > > > > > > > > > conjoining

> > > > > > > > > > > > moon in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> or KAY operational here along 1-7

axis).

> > So,

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > net result is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though

> > already

> > > > > > > > > > > > afflicted due to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> debilitation) is afflicted. All this

is

> > > > > > > > > > > something

> > > > > > > > > > > > I have been told

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> by various astrologers (not

necessarily

> > all at

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > same time).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral

and

> > > > > > > > > > > Diamond

> > > > > > > > > > > > to me. I am still

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> wearing diamond in silver ring on my

right

> > > > hand

> > > > > > > > > > > > ring finger

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> (presently going through Venus

dasha), and

> > > > > > > > > > > Coral

> > > > > > > > > > > > in gold pendant in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver

ring

> > > > earlier

> > > > > > > > > > > > but changed it to a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> pendant and wore it in the neck in a

black

> > > > > > > > > > > string.

> > > > > > > > > > > > I have since

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> removed it but I must say that

whenever I

> > wear

> > > > > > > > > > > > Pearl it quietens my

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> temper down. Besides that, I have not

> > seen any

> > > > > > > > > > > > improvement in my

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> career or financial aspects.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Now, my real question to you is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> this. Moon being afflicted and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> left hand to be used (for the effect

to be

> > > > > > > > > > > > reduced), I should

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> have

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring

> > finger?

> > > > You

> > > > > > > > > > > > may take few days to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> reply! I am not in a hurry.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Sunil

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro

> > > > > > > > > > > > <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > majastrbacastro

> > <majastrbacastro@ ...>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

Choosing

> > > > > > > > > > > > Gemstones (Swami)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36

PM

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Namaste dear Swami,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Listing out all possible solutions

of

> > Sukra

> > > > > > > > > > > > being unfavorable

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Graha

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > in this chart, those mentioned were

the

> > only

> > > > > > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > I could find (and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > that was after quite some time

spent in

> > > > > > > > > > > serious

> > > > > > > > > > > > thinking). It is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> my

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > mistake to " equalize " effects of

Rudra

> > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > Maheshvara in Shula

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> dasa

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > somewhere in my

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> memory, which is apparently wrong.

> > Anyway, I

> > > > > > > > > > > did

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> say

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> significance to wear gemstone

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > for it (either to increase or to

> > decrease).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > So far I was informed about just a

few

> > rules

> > > > > > > > > > > > regarding determining

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be

honest I

> > > > > > > > > > > thought

> > > > > > > > > > > > that Ketu/Rahu

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> could

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > reverse counting only in case if it

is

> > in

> > > > 8th

> > > > > > > > > > > > from AK or if Rahu

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more

useful

> > > > > > > > > > > > information about this

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > issue.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones

> > issue...

> > > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > received one

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > completely unexpected gift today

> > afternoon:

> > > > > > > > > > > > silver ring with a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> pearl

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > and matching silver pectoral also

> > decorated

> > > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > pearls. What is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > this today...? I was never this much

> > > > involved

> > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > any thread so

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> far.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear

it,

> > even

> > > > > > > > > > > > though Chandra is not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > lording my trines.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Maja

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > --- In

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> @ .

com, " swami "

> > > > > > > > > > > <swami@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Dear Maja,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Your insights are great,

incidently I

> > was

> > > > > > > > > > > > struck at your

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> mention

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > of " Yet, Sukra is also

maheshvara.. .

> > but I

> > > > > > > > > > > > don't think

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of

any

> > > > > > > > > > > > significance) .

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I could not understand How sukra

is

> > > > > > > > > > > > maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar planet . that also is

appears

> > > > > > > > > > > incorrect.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is

with

> > > > ketu

> > > > > > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > > > > > count to 8 th

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> would

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK

merc

> > > > leads

> > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > Leo.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > The sign lord is SUN.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries

so

> > SUN

> > > > > > > > > > > > becomes Brahma Planet.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > In such an eventulaty we have to

count

> > 8th

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > 12 th from Sun

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Eight

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord

is

> > Jup.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > We apply parashar strength to

determne

> > > > > > > > > > > > strenth.Ketu and jup are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > both with one planet Jup is in dual

> > sign so

> > > > > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > > > per naisargic bal

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Jup

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > is Maheswar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > You can check workng referring to

> > 2.1.47

> > > > > > > > > > > sutra.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Now on thread question of wearing

gem

> > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > discussed.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih

> > > > > > > > > > > > knowledge .So Gem stone of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > planet that is maheswar if put in

left

> > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > > > diminish

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> knowledge.If

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > worn in Right hand should enhance

> > learning

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic shahstra.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Perhaps native has tried many

gems.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > By the way, influence of wearing

> > planet

> > > > > > > > > > > > related to maheshwar is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > not taught in parampara or in

> > scriptures,i

> > > > > > > > > > > could

> > > > > > > > > > > > access, so this

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > last suggestion may be taken just a

> > logical

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> aplication.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hope it sets you to think and

> > experiment.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > with regards.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > OM TATSAT

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- -----

----

> > ---

> > > > -

> > > > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > > > -- ---------

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Swami_RCS

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- -

----

> > ----

> > > > -

> > > > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > > > ----- --------

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious

> > > > > > > > > > > effulgence

> > > > > > > > > > > > of that Divine

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Being

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > who has created the three

worlds.May He

> > > > > > > > > > > Direct

> > > > > > > > > > > > our understanding. "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- -

----

> > ----

> > > > -

> > > > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > > > ----- --------- --------

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> --

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > -

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > -

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > majastrbacastro

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Saturday, July 05, 2008

7:10 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

> > Choosing

> > > > > > > > > > > > Gemstones

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev

> > maybe?),

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was

wearing

> > > > > > > > > > > > zircon on his left

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> hand,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > so

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that means he was weakening his

lord

> > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> 10th bhava in 9th...

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> And

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > additionally he was weakening

lord of

> > 3rd

> > > > > > > > > > > > bhava (which is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > considered

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is

also

> > > > > > > > > > > > maheshvara.. . but I don't

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > think

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of

any

> > > > > > > > > > > > significance) .

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I really dislike complicating

simple

> > > > > > > > > > > things,

> > > > > > > > > > > > but this time I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> can

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha

Lagna is

> > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dhanu, yet Mithuna is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > stronger Rasi due to position of

> > Chandra

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > Guru in it. That

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > means

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi

as

> > his

> > > > > > > > > > > > Arudha Lagna. 12th

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava

from

> > > > > > > > > > > Arudha

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna signifies

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > expenses. He was weakening this

one

> > also.

> > > > > > > > > > > > These are just

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> thoughts...

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Maja

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > --- In

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> , RKM

> > > > > > > > > > > > <rajeevmundra@ >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Dear Neeraj

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord

sitting

> > in

> > > > > > > > > > > 9th

> > > > > > > > > > > > house which is a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Royal

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Yoga.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may

have

> > > > > > > > > > > > helped you grow in your

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > career.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be

> > very

> > > > > > > > > > > > suitable.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits

Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > Moon. -ve.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th

house. -

> > ve

> > > > > > > > > > > > (but ok if malefic

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > debiliated in 12th

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > house)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries

and

> > > > > > > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> of 8th house.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and

> > > > > > > > > > > relatively

> > > > > > > > > > > > unafflicted is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > working

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> best.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Suns stone would probably give

you

> > > > > > > > > > > better

> > > > > > > > > > > > health and overall

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > luck.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > But venus will cause growth in

> > career.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > --

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Ã'Ã...Ã² Ã'Ã " Ã0/00Ã'Ã " Ã?Ã'Ã " f

> > > > > > > > > > > > Ã'Ã " Â´Ã'Ã " Æ'Ã'Ã " Â²Ã'Ã " Â¬Ã'Ã " Ã?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > RKM

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM,

> > yasoda

> > > > > > > > > > > > krsna

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> <yasodakrsna@ >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish

Gurus

> > of

> > > > > > > > > > > SJC

> > > > > > > > > > > > have made error.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Particularly in my case was

> > > > > > > > > > > recommended

> > > > > > > > > > > > Coral by one,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Ruby

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > by

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > two.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased

by

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> recommended quality

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > gemologist.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > This gemstone recommendation

was

> > not

> > > > > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > > internet

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> questions

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > but

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > by paid

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > services.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The good thing was the price

of

> > gold

> > > > > > > > > > > > soared and made good

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > money

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > by selling

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > it.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath

> > > > > > > > > > > recommendation

> > > > > > > > > > > > of yellow

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> sapphire

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > it works.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship

their

> > > > > > > > > > > > Devata for the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> prediction

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > be true.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Yasoda.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect

than

> > > > > > > > > > > > gemstone if sincere

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta

<gupta_neeraj_

> > > > > > > > > > > 2000@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > vedic astrology@

.

> > com;

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008

> > 11:59:41 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru]

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Choosing Gemstones

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > It's been more than four years

> > that I

> > > > > > > > > > > > studied

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> different

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > books on

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstones

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > and got advise from different

good

> > > > > > > > > > > > astrologers about the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstone. But none

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > of them gave very good result.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > As of now, some of the

following

> > > > > > > > > > > > theories are present for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > choosing

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > gemstone.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> (recommended by many

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> astrologers)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord

of

> > 1,

> > > > > > > > > > > 5,

> > > > > > > > > > > > and 9) - Anukool

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics

> > (Partikool)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > However, I recently found

that one

> > > > > > > > > > > > gemstone worked very

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> well

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > me. After

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wearing that I got a very good

> > > > > > > > > > > results

> > > > > > > > > > > > in my career and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> also

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > my

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > income

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > increased by more than 100% in

> > > > > > > > > > > approx. 4

> > > > > > > > > > > > months.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not

> > > > > > > > > > > recommended

> > > > > > > > > > > > to me by any

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > astrologer

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > (though I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > consulted several ones in

person)

> > and

> > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > no such book it

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> was

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > mentioned that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > I should choose this gemstone. I

read

> > > > > > > > > > > > approximately 8-10

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > books

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > on gem

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the

> > forums, I

> > > > > > > > > > > > was not advised to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > wear

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > this gemstone.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised

Ruby,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Yellow Sapphire and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Red

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Coral

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > different astrologers. One

even

> > > > > > > > > > > advised

> > > > > > > > > > > > blue sapphire,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > made

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > matters

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > worse.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth

> > details

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > then I will tell

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > gem

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > stone that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > worked for me.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The gemstone that worked was

> > Zircon

> > > > > > > > > > > > (Substitute of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Diamond).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > worn this in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold

and

> > > > > > > > > > > things

> > > > > > > > > > > > started working

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > positive

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > automatically. I didn't did

any

> > thing

> > > > > > > > > > > > exceptional in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> my

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > personal / work

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > life. Now there are

somethings to

> > be

> > > > > > > > > > > > noted.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. It's not lord of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> trines.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is

not

> > > > > > > > > > > running.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Still, it gave me good

results.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > On the basis of this, I

thought a

> > way

> > > > > > > > > > > > that may be tried

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> if

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > some

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > to try. Please share your

> > results, so

> > > > > > > > > > > > that we can know

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> more

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > about this.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Look for the planets

placed in

> > > > > > > > > > > 1,5,9

> > > > > > > > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava

> > Chart. If

> > > > > > > > > > > > any of the planets

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > were in 1,5,9

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > house moves to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> some other house, ignore that planet.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in

> > Trines

> > > > > > > > > > > > (1,5,9) in both natal

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > chart

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> bhava

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart, choose that planet

(ignore

> > > > > > > > > > > rahu,

> > > > > > > > > > > > ketu)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was

> > found

> > > > > > > > > > > till

> > > > > > > > > > > > step 3 is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> benefic

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > your

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then

> > choose

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > main gemstone of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > planet and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wear it in the right hand.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the

> > planet

> > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > was found in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> step

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> 3

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > malefic,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > then choose the substitute

gem for

> > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > planet and wear

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> it

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > the left hand.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > The above was just a thought that

came

> > to my

> > > > > > > > > > > > mind and if

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > some

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > try it, they may do so for

> > > > > > > > > > > experiment.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly share with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > other

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > members, if

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > this method works for you.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > ------------ --------- --------- ---

---

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Thank you for maintaining the

decorum

> > of the

> > > > > > > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the

Shadakshari

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian -

remember

> > > > Akbar

> > > > > > > > > > > > the Great who said

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> that the human

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > stomach should not become a

graveyard

> > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > animals.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > (3) Practice charity in thought and

> > deed -

> > > > do

> > > > > > > > > > > > one free chart

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> reading

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > today

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Links

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- -----

-

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum

of

> > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari

> > > > > > > > > > > Mantra 'Hare

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rama Krishna'

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian -

remember

> > Akbar

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > Great who said that the human

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> stomach should not become a graveyard

for

> > > > > > > > > > > animals.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> (3) Practice charity in thought and

deed -

> > do

> > > > > > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > free chart reading

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> today

July 15, 2008

Dear Maja,

> There is a lot of people around me who I can not simply say " it is

> good for spirituality " not even if I have a whole week available

to

> elaborate this sentence. I live in such country unfortunately.

It's not really an issue of country. You'd be surprised how many

Indians are not spiritual. I used to be one of them for most of my

life (and I had no shortage of like-minded friends). My own personal

opinion (based on knowing myself and lots of other Indian friends

and relatives) is that most Indians are simply into ritualistic

religion by birth without understanding or even wanting to

understand deeper meanings, that's all. As with most other people

in the world, it takes some kind of personal awakening to really

become spiritual. Of course, there are rare people who have a

spiritual side to them right from the beginning, and of course, you

cant use the people on this group as examples, because this group is

simply a collection of those rare types, not representative of the

general populace.

However, I do agree that the " general western attitude " , which is

very prevalent in the East as well, is one of " taking control " of

one's life and reshaping one's environment to fully achieve one's

desires. This attitude I think is what is counter to spirituality

(which encourages you to look inward and actually question your

desires), and although rooted in the West - see the term " Modernism "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modernism , is pretty prevalent in the

East as well.

JMHO,

Sundeep

July 16, 2008

kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear Maja, Namaskar

This is naisargika bhava dasa, phalita dasa will activate this third

bhava throughout whole life.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.com /

email:

rafal

Maja Strbac pisze:

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Rafal Ji,

Namaste

1. Come on, can't you see that I was just a model list member. I was

normally complaining, weeping on your "e shoulder" and asking for

advice.

2. But that was just illustration... You didn't have to suggest

remedies (Admit, there is no "shut down" button in your case .

3. That story you have in your 5th is in my 3rd bhava. I was

recently laughing when I read on Sarajit Poddar's blog that yoga in

3rd bhava is active somewhere around 90th year of life (of all 12

this is the last one in line). There is some good motivation to take

more care of my health and live a long life

Regards,

Maja

Hari Om Tat Sat

sohamsa ,

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> Dear Maja, Namaskar

>

> 1. Ok. nothing personal from your side also

>

> 2. Yes, Shukra is heavy afflicted - but in d9 uccha also;) but yes

ak,

> lagnesh involved make this very intense, deep and personal

experience

> related to relationship. Poor girl.. she should worship Trayambaka

> Jyotirlinga or Ganesha.

>

> 3. I have that luxury that 90% of my clients are quite spiritual

people

> (Ke in 7 and Pravrajayoga in fifth with A7 lord). Even in Poland

in 90%

> I do the readings for Isckon people. I love to talk and help

spiritual

> people about their karma as its more simple and easy to make them

aware

> about the problem & solution. I must admit that its often

quite

good

> lessons for me. So from that perspective I feel I am quite

fortunate.

> Karma connected to Dharma (tenth lord in fifth with ninth lord) is

very

> auspicious and I thank God for that opportunity.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> www: http://rohinaa.com

/ email: rafal

>

> Maja Strbac pisze:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Dear Rafal Ji,

> > Namaste

> >

> > (For just in case I shall reply on your email with following,

> > because sometimes I can "feel" someone's mood when I read his

emails)

> >

> > Wait a minute. Hold it. Relax, please! I gave myself a

promise

that

> > last time I had done something, that you might think I was

doing

is

> > my last email to you, is really my LAST time! I keep my

promises. My

> > last email was personal, but NOT personal AGAINST you,

honestly.

Do

> > I have to add it each and every time that it is nothing

personal

> > against you? (It would be useful if we could attach our facial

> > expressions to our emails as well

> >

> > Some of the worst charts that I have ever seen in my life

belong

to

> > my closest friends. Even though I have more than one hour to

talk to

> > them it is very hard to be helpful for most of them precisely

> > because of reasons I was mentioning. I fall apart when I see

someone

> > in tears, problem or pain, but I take it much harder to have

part of

> > solution available for them (aside from being just a big

listening

> > ear), and yet it is useless because very few are ready to

accept

it

> > and follow it.

> >

> > I was just thinking that you had to have similar experiences

> > sometimes with your clients from your country.

> >

> > Example of worst chart: 09th of August 1978 at 12 35 PM 20 E

30;

44

> > N 50; time zone 01 hour East of GMT. That is just

illustration.

If

> > you had ever seen worst Sukra in someone's chart, please let

me

> > know. She is a friend, of course. (She had a full reading

don't

> > worry, I wasn't dealing with this personally. Now I can just

hope

> > that she is doing her remedies on regular basis)

> >

> > My best friend stopped fasting on UL lord few months ago...

> >

> > My own brother and father belong to category "never mention

that

> > there is such thing like mantra". They would never understand

it...

> >

> > There is a lot of people around me who I can not simply say

"it

is

> > good for spirituality" not even if I have a whole week

available

to

> > elaborate this sentence. I live in such country

unfortunately.

So,

> > in some cases I chose not to mention anything from chart and

what it

> > means. In those cases I am just a big listening ear when I am

asked

> > for.

> >

> > (I hope that there was no need at all to write this email. In

case

> > there was a misunderstanding, I hope that it is cleared out

now)

> >

> > Regards,

> > Maja

> >

> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> >

> > sohamsa

<sohamsa%

40>,

> > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> > >

> > > It was nothing personal. To realize and live by this

truth

vijnana

> > and

> > > not only jnana is important - this demands a lot of

effort for

few

> > > births (*bahunam* janmanam ante jnanavan mam prapadyate

-

Gita).

> > So

> > > there are various level of awarness (thinking, feeling,

willing -

> > > actions of mana). Yes, generally we can advise spiritual

direction

> > > always, but we can be more caring for those who are

ready for

it.

> > The

> > > fact about suffering (moksha konas are in 66% ruled in

karaka

> > level by

> > > Shani) is not only connected to Hinduism but to whole

spectrum

of

> > > faiths. Also the suffering is not necessary (raja,

rajarishi

and

> > rishi)

> > > but it can be helpful for some cases - therefore AK in

80%

gives

> > suffering.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > www: http://rohinaa.com

<http://rohinaa.com>

/ email: rafal@

> > >

> > > Maja Strbac pisze:

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal Ji,

> > > > Namaste

> > > >

> > > > Would it surprise you to learn that basically I am

aware of

> > > > spiritual point of view? Maybe not with such

details who said

> > what

> > > > and when, but main point, I am aware of it.

Besides, I mostly

> > used

> > > > past tenses in my previous email (additional to

this,

recently I

> > was

> > > > through AD/MD that "clicked on" that parivartana in

my

chart).

> > > >

> > > > Let's say a "regular civilian" who is not involved

too much

in

> > > > spirituality and has family and kids to feed could

take such

> > > > information very hard. That is my point. You live

in a

country

> > where

> > > > Hinduism is not widely spread religion (so do I).

It is hard

> > > > to "convert" someone's way of thinking in one hour,

which is

> > average

> > > > duration of Jyotish reading.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Maja

> > > >

> > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa

<sohamsa%

40>

> > <sohamsa%

> > 40>,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > Dear Maja , Namaskar

> > > > >

> > > > > Srimati Kunti in Bhagavatam prays for the

suffering as they

> > bring

> > > > closer

> > > > > one to God. From spiritual point of view which

is the only

view

> > > > > everything what makes one closer to God its

most

auspicious.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > www: http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>

<http://rohinaa.com

> > <http://rohinaa.com>>

/ email: rafal@

> > > > >

> > > > > Maja Strbac pisze:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste dear Anna (hey there, another

girl!? Welcome!!!),

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I hope that you are not having a plan to

just sit there

and

> > read

> > > > > > this list. Maybe you could write

something yourself from

> > time to

> > > > > > time. It would be nice (and useful for

learning). Though

I

> > think

> > > > > > that you wrote something recently, maybe

a month ago?

Your

> > name

> > > > and

> > > > > > ID seems familiar to me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I wish if I could help you more about

your question. We

are

> > both

> > > > in

> > > > > > the same position I am afraid. I don't

know... Right now

I am

> > > > just

> > > > > > holding my fingers crossed and hoping

that this

explanation

> > we

> > > > are

> > > > > > both waiting is not about "it is a

blessing for

> > spirituality". My

> > > > > > blood pressure is rising when I hear

that. One of first

few

> > > > > > sentences about Jyotish that I have

learned was similar

to

> > this.

> > > > It

> > > > > > was regarding my current MD. This person

told me "It is

bad

> > for

> > > > > > health, career, finances..." I asked

"until when?" and

got

> > > > > > reply "Until 2010" (It was back in

February of 2006. Can

you

> > > > guess

> > > > > > how I felt to hear this?). Then he added

"But it is

great for

> > > > > > spirituality" (And it was few months

before I have even

> > heard of

> > > > > > SJC). I was like "Oh, great, now I feel

much better..."

(Of

> > > > course I

> > > > > > was ironic). So, now you know what it

means when Jyotisha

> > > > predicts a

> > > > > > great period for spirituality. For 99% of

world wide

> > population

> > > > it

> > > > > > means that one should start digging hole

in the ground

and

> > fill

> > > > bags

> > > > > > with sand. (But it turned out I am ok

in "My

> > spirituality". I

> > > > > > started to like it

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am waiting with you...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > P.S. I appreciate people who appreciate

honest and open

> > minded

> > > > > > people.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Maja

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa

> > <sohamsa%40>

<sohamsa%

> > 40>

> > > > <sohamsa%

> > > > 40>,

> > > > > > 108ar <bona_mente@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Raphal and Maja,

> > > > > > > I am dying to learn why/when

'Badhakesh can be blessing

> > for an

> > > > > > individual, as Raphael wrote.

> > > > > > > btw. I read all your posts with

interest, I appreciate

that

> > > > > > you both are honest and open-minded

astrol's

> > > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > > > Anna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Maja Strbac

<majastrbacastro@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Maja Strbac

<majastrbacastro@>

> > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru]

Re: Choosing

Gemstones

> > > > (Rafal

> > > > > > Ji)

> > > > > > > sohamsa

> > <sohamsa%40>

<sohamsa%

> > 40>

> > > > <sohamsa%40>

> > > > > > > Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:02 PM

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal Ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Okay... let me finally introduce

myself: My name is

Maja

> > and I

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > no idea yet what is the art design

for front page

of "Vedic

> > > > > > > remedies" by Sanjay Rath, but I am

about to find it out

> > till

> > > > the

> > > > > > end

> > > > > > > of this month when friend of mine is

supposed to come

back

> > from

> > > > > > > India with my copy of this book.

Nice to meet you

too.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. You see, that list of "NO" points

are what I have

> > learned so

> > > > > > far

> > > > > > > about gemstones, so when you take it

in consideration,

the

> > only

> > > > > > > conclusion I can make for now is

that there is no

suitable

> > > > > > gemstone

> > > > > > > I can prescribe for any Kanya lagna

(including myself,

and

> > > > (still

> > > > > > > only with taking that list in

consideration) especially

> > > > because of

> > > > > > > Sk in trika bhava). That is the

reason why I wrote

that I

> > find

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > list very frustrating. Of course,

another reason is

that I

> > > > assumed

> > > > > > > that there must be deeper story

behind those points I

> > wrote,

> > > > > > except

> > > > > > > I haven't got that far yet (I don't

have a plan to stop

> > myself

> > > > > > here

> > > > > > > with gemstones, don't worry). I'll

trust you on that

advice

> > > > about

> > > > > > > diamond exactly because I understand

that this list is

> > not "the

> > > > > > edge

> > > > > > > of the world" about criteria for

choosing. But it is

nice

> > to

> > > > find

> > > > > > > out at the same time that I can

advice diamond to a

friend

> > of

> > > > mine

> > > > > > > who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is

in 9th bhava. If I

am

> > o.k.

> > > > she

> > > > > > > is going to bloom with diamond. As I

understand in her

case

> > > > there

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > no single reason to avoid it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. Well I am at the kinder garden

level with

gemstones. I

> > just

> > > > > > play

> > > > > > > with that a little. (But mantras are

still... There I

am a

> > new

> > > > born

> > > > > > > baby) Right now I am doing

everything possible from my

> > > > position to

> > > > > > > get closer to elementary school.

(Don't take personally

> > > > following

> > > > > > > lines, please. It is nothing pointed

to

you.) "Badhakesh

> > many

> > > > > > times

> > > > > > > is blessing to the native". From the

perspective of

kinder

> > > > garden

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > can give no knowledgably comment on

this sentence. By

the

> > time

> > > > I

> > > > > > > reach that deeper perspective I just

hope that I shall

not

> > meet

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > explanation that sounds like "If you

focus real hard

you

> > can

> > > > prove

> > > > > > > hypothesis that elephant can hang

over from a cliff

with

> > his

> > > > tail

> > > > > > > holding to a daisy", because I ran

off from Western

> > Astrology

> > > > > > > exactly because of such things. I

would take it real

hard

> > to

> > > > > > > disappoint in Jyotish. That

explanation better be very

> > good and

> > > > > > > reasonable.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Maja

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com,

Rafal Gendarz

> > > > <starsuponme@ ...>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Why is it frustrating for

Kanya with Shukra in

trika?

> > Do

> > > > you

> > > > > > > mean it

> > > > > > > > takes away the viveka to choose

a gem as general or

its

> > > > > > > problematic to

> > > > > > > > choose a gem for you? For your

chart its

diamond..easy.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. In choosing a gem the planet

(gem-karaka) should

> > bless one

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > material / emotional goods. So

dusthana, maraka,

> > badhakesh,

> > > > > > neelam

> > > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > be good depending on a chart -

as they can provide

goods

> > to

> > > > the

> > > > > > > native.

> > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center tries to

teach class of

astrologers

> > > > which

> > > > > > > will rise

> > > > > > > > above those generalizations

like 'dusthana is bad,

> > maraka is

> > > > > > bad,

> > > > > > > > badhakesh is bad' etc..thats

kindergarden astrology.

> > > > Badhakesh

> > > > > > > many

> > > > > > > > times is blessing to the native.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal@

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ohh... so that was the

catch! Thank you very much.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It is just that I find

following list very

frustrating

> > > > > > sometimes:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lord of 2nd & 7th,

maraka-NO!

> > > > > > > > > Lord of 6, 8 & 12th,

dustahn-NO!

> > > > > > > > > Lord of 3rd & 11th,

trika-NO!

> > > > > > > > > Graha in dustahn-NO!

> > > > > > > > > Graha in trika-NO!

> > > > > > > > > Badhakesh-NO!

> > > > > > > > > Blue sapphire-NO!

> > > > > > > > > Green emerald-NO!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > (I also find it very

frustrating because I am Kanya

> > lagna

> > > > with

> > > > > > > Sukra

> > > > > > > > > in trika bhava

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Maja

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > sohamsa@

..com <sohamsa%

> > > > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@ >

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah

narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Maja & SS ,

Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Usually we perscribe

gems for kona lords to

increase

> > the

> > > > > > rise,

> > > > > > > > > fortune

> > > > > > > > > > and wealth of native.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Here Mangal is

unafflicted and wellplaced so it

will

> > give

> > > > > > > effect

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh and not sixth

lord.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Instead Shani will

give effect of sixth lord

giving

> > > > problem

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > pitta and

> > > > > > > > > > tridoshic problems of

genital area/anus (right

side)

> > (82-

> > > > 91).

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

> > > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com

<http://rohinaa.

com> /

> > email:

> > > > > > rafal@

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > > > > > Namaste dear

Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I don't have to

write too much, question is

same

> > (down

> > > > > > there

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > previous email

from SS).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Help us?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Maja

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

sohamsa@ .com

<sohamsa%

> > > > > > > 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > <sohamsa%

> > > > > > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > > > "Soul Sadhak"

<soulsadhak@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Please can

you advise why Coral will be

> > appropriate

> > > > even

> > > > > > > though

> > > > > > > > > > > Mars

> > > > > > > > > > > > is 6th lord?

> > > > > > > > > > > > Is it

because it lords 9th from AL?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanx

> > > > > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > > > > > <sohamsa%

40. com>

<sohamsa%

> > > > > > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem

namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear

Rajarishi, Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.

There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so

the

> > gem

> > > > will

> > > > > > > > > activate

> > > > > > > > > > > it.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

Parivartana means that Diamond will

activate

> > Bu in

> > > > 3

> > > > > > > from AL

> > > > > > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

afflicts career life and skills of native.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.

Neck influences thinking.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.

Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4

> > planet

> > > > > > > forward in

> > > > > > > > > > > > kalachakra

> > > > > > > > > > > > > scheme.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.

This is especially done for Rahu in

badhak.

> > > > > > Badhakesh

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Yes

third bhava is lorded by Shani in

> > twelfth. I

> > > > > > > follow

> > > > > > > > > > > Sanjayji

> > > > > > > > > > > > who

> > > > > > > > > > > > > also

looks at lord when bhava is empty.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. We

can do everything if we know what we

are

> > > > doing.

> > > > > > > > > Planets in

> > > > > > > > > > > > lagna,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > fifth

and tenth eclipses the others.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal

Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com

<http://rohinaa.

com>

> > > > > > > > > <http://rohinaa. com

<http://rohinaa.

com>> /

email:

> > rafal@

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

rajarshi nandy pisze:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I

was trying to understand your advise

to Mr

> > > > Sunil.

> > > > > > It

> > > > > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > > great

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

if you could kindly clarify some points

> > which I

> > > > > > could

> > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > understand.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of

10th

> > > > lord,

> > > > > > due

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > yuti

> > > > > > > > > > > > causing

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

exchange of effects?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in

> > neck?

> > > > What

> > > > > > > is its

> > > > > > > > > > > >

significance?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it

will

> > > > give

> > > > > > > effects

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > shani.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara

> > chakra?

> > > > But i

> > > > > > > > > thought

> > > > > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house?

Please

> > > > tell me

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > exact

> > > > > > > > > > > > rule.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a

sarpa

> > > > > > badhaka.

> > > > > > > In

> > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > case

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs

to

> > > > nagraj

> > > > > > > temple?

> > > > > > > > > Why

> > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Krishna idol donation neeeded?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Thanks in advance,.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

-Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Rajarshi

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > /*

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

*"This above all: to thine own self be

> > true!" -

> > > > > > Hamlet*

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > */

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

--- On *Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal

> > Gendarz /<starsuponme@

> > > > > > >/*

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

Choosing

> > > > Gemstones

> > > > > > > > > > > (Sunil)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > <srijagannat

h%40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

*kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Dear Sunil , Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

www: http://rohinaa.

com / email:

> > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

> > > > com

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Rafal Gendarz pisze:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>> Dear Sunil, Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>> 1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of

tenth

> > > > lord

> > > > > > > which is

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>> negative, but will also improve the

> > finances and

> > > > > > > > > > > Chandra..so

> > > > > > > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>> not perfect. Coral has less side-effects

> > here.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>> 2. Neck is for something else, fingers

are

> > for

> > > > > > karma.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>> 3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas

> > > > signified

> > > > > > by

> > > > > > > AK.

> > > > > > > > > > > Irs

> > > > > > > > > > > > also

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>> in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>> 4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so

> > initial

> > > > > > > setbacks

> > > > > > > > > > > > (rasi)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>> and then improvement (navamsa).

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>> 5. Just please try to perform those

remedies

> > > > which

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > > > given

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>> in the last mail.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>> Altough Kalasarpa is not so active

already,

> > the

> > > > > > Sarpa

> > > > > > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>> broken and the ninth lord should be

lifted -

> > > > > > > Bhuvanesvari.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>> Agantuka adrsta problems coming from

Rahu

> > > > should be

> > > > > > > > > > > remedied

> > > > > > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>> gift of idol/picture related to Sri

Krishna.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>> Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>> www: http://rohinaa.

com / email:

> > > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>> Sunil Sharma pisze:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> Dear Rafal ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> Thank you very much for your guidance.

I

> > like

> > > > to

> > > > > > hear

> > > > > > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> comments, not just about me, but even

> > regarding

> > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> person/subject

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> Good that I removed the Pearl. I am,

> > however,

> > > > still

> > > > > > > > > > > wearing

> > > > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> Diamond in silver ring in my right hand

> > ring

> > > > > > finger.

> > > > > > > > > > > Should

> > > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> be removed too? Not that I see any

visible

> > > > > > difference

> > > > > > > > > > > after

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> wearing it.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume

you

> > mean

> > > > > > Coral

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > > case)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> in gold pendant around the neck. Any

> > > > suggestions

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > this.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> Secondly, someone suggested I should

wear

> > > > Yellow

> > > > > > > > > > > Sapphire to

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is

> > afflicted

> > > > due

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu's 9th

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> aspect. Is it appropriate?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> As for dasha and antardasha, I have not

> > seen

> > > > good

> > > > > > > period

> > > > > > > > > > > > since

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993.

Some

> > > > sporadic

> > > > > > > gains

> > > > > > > > > > > > now and

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> then but nothing substantial. I would

love

> > to

> > > > > > change

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> situation, if I can, and solicit your

> > advice in

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > > > regard. If

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> you will be kind enough to please give

me a

> > > > clear

> > > > > > > idea

> > > > > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> can do.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> Sunil

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal

> > > > Gendarz /<starsuponme@

> > > > > > > > > > > wp.pl>/*

> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@

wp.pl>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

Choosing

> > > > > > > > > > > Gemstones

> > > > > > > > > > > > (Sunil)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> Dear Sunil , Namaskar

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> You cant wear pearl at all as its

badhakesh

> > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > rahu in

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna

> > idol/picture

> > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> temple/spiritual person.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> You can wear only Coral.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> Left hand is usually for malefic being

> > placed

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > third/ninth

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> - only in dasa of this malefic -

instead

> > use

> > > > right

> > > > > > > > > > > hand

> > > > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> fortune-gem.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> Best is to get initiation in

Bhuvanesvari

> > > > Sadhana

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> worship Hanumanji sincerly!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be

> > > > troublesome

> > > > > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> the strength period (neechavastha) ,

after

> > > > initial

> > > > > > > > > > > > struggle

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> there should be improvement due to

> > exaltation

> > > > in

> > > > > > d9.

> > > > > > > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> period works for spirituality a lot

due to

> > > > > > karakaamsa

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> position. Rahu AD will give effect of

> > chandra

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > being

> > > > > > > > > > > > GK

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> it should not be so bad but the twelfth

> > bhava

> > > > will

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-

Ra

> > and

> > > > fact

> > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mo

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H).

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> www: http://rohinaa.

com

> > <http://www.rohinaa.

> > > > com/

> > > > > > > > > <http://www.rohinaa.

com/>

> > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.rohinaa.

com/ <http://www.rohinaa.

> > > > com/>>> /

> > > > > > > > > > > > email:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>> Sunil Sharma pisze:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Dear Maja,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> I fully appreciate your openness about

> > various

> > > > > > > > > > > > observations

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> made so far. At least you are better

than

> > me

> > > > when

> > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > say

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> few charts are clear to you. To me

all of

> > them

> > > > > > look

> > > > > > > > > > > > confusing.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> My birth data is as follows:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> DOB: 21st September 1955

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> TOB: 10:32 A.M.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Like I said earlier, take your time

about

> > it.

> > > > I am

> > > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > in a

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> hurry.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Sunil

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08,

> > > > > > > > > > > majastrbacastro

/<majastrbacastro@

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > <majastrbaca

stro@>/*

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> majastrbacastro

<majastrbacastro@

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> <majastrbaca stro@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

Choosing

> > > > > > > > > > > Gemstones

> > > > > > > > > > > > (Sunil)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Dear Sunil,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Namaste

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> My decision

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> to wear that gift I received has

nothing

> > to do

> > > > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> procedure of determining proper

> > gemstone It

> > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > just that I

wear

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> jewelry only on rare occasions,

lately I

> > find

> > > > > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > > > very

entertaining

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> to learn about gemstones (not just for

> > past

> > > > two

> > > > > > > > > > > > days), for

past

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> month or two I had a few dialogues

> > regarding

> > > > > > > > > > > same

> > > > > > > > > > > > kind of

ring that

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> you are wearing right now, and it

turned

> > out

> > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > not

suitable for

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> me when I was about to buy one. What

> > happened

> > > > > > > > > > > > yesterday I

consider

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> it to be nice omen, so I decided to

wear

> > it

> > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > few months.

(If I

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> suddenly disappear from list it will

mean

> > that

> > > > > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > > > was a wrong

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> decision

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Anyway, please give me your birth

data. I

> > > > would

> > > > > > > > > > > > like to

look at

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> whole chart. Whatever I say I am

asking

> > you to

> > > > > > > > > > > > take it

just as an

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> opinion. As I have said on the

beginning

> > of

> > > > > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > > > thread I am

not

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> quite skilled with this issue, so have

> > this

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> in mind (Though it was

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> not so difficult for me to say that

ruby

> > is

> > > > > > > > > > > proper

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> gemstone for

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Neeraj, since positions in his chart

are

> > not

> > > > so

> > > > > > > > > > > > confusing

as they

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> often could be in various charts. When

> > > > > > > > > > > positions

> > > > > > > > > > > > in chart are

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> complicated I choose to say "I don't

know"

> > > > > > > > > > > rather

> > > > > > > > > > > > than to ruin

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> someone's life.)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Maja

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> ,

> > Sunil

> > > > > > > > > > > > Sharma

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > Dear Maja,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > I have been reading each and every

> > message

> > > > on

> > > > > > > > > > > > this thread

and, at

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> the outset, was surprised to read

about

> > > > > > > > > > > Neeraj's

> > > > > > > > > > > >

observations.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> However, things became quite clear

later

> > on

> > > > > > > > > > > > especially

with your

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> comments on antardasha.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > Your very last sentence in your last

> > mail

> > > > > > > > > > > (even

> > > > > > > > > > > > though

chandra is

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> not lording my trines) caught my

> > attention.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Debilitated

chandra (in

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th

house

> > in my

> > > > > > > > > > > > chart with

exalted

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Atmakaraka

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu

> > > > > > > > > > > conjoining

> > > > > > > > > > > > moon in

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> or KAY operational here along 1-7

axis).

> > So,

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > net result

is

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though

> > already

> > > > > > > > > > > > afflicted

due to

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> debilitation) is afflicted. All this

is

> > > > > > > > > > > something

> > > > > > > > > > > > I have been

told

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> by various astrologers (not

necessarily

> > all at

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > same time).

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral

and

> > > > > > > > > > > Diamond

> > > > > > > > > > > > to me. I am

still

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> wearing diamond in silver ring on my

right

> > > > hand

> > > > > > > > > > > > ring finger

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> (presently going through Venus

dasha), and

> > > > > > > > > > > Coral

> > > > > > > > > > > > in gold

pendant in

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver

ring

> > > > earlier

> > > > > > > > > > > > but changed

it to a

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> pendant and wore it in the neck in a

black

> > > > > > > > > > > string.

> > > > > > > > > > > > I have since

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> removed it but I must say that

whenever I

> > wear

> > > > > > > > > > > > Pearl it

quietens my

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> temper down. Besides that, I have not

> > seen any

> > > > > > > > > > > > improvement

in my

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> career or financial aspects.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > Now, my real question to you is

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> this. Moon being afflicted and

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> left hand to be used (for the effect

to be

> > > > > > > > > > > > reduced), I

should

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> have

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring

> > finger?

> > > > You

> > > > > > > > > > > > may take

few days to

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> reply! I am not in a hurry.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > Sunil

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro

> > > > > > > > > > > >

<majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > majastrbacastro

> > <majastrbacastro@ ...>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

Choosing

> > > > > > > > > > > > Gemstones

(Swami)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36

PM

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > Namaste dear Swami,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > Listing out all possible solutions

of

> > Sukra

> > > > > > > > > > > > being

unfavorable

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Graha

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > in this chart, those mentioned were

the

> > only

> > > > > > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > I could

find (and

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > that was after quite some time

spent in

> > > > > > > > > > > serious

> > > > > > > > > > > > thinking).

It is

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> my

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > mistake to "equalize" effects of

Rudra

> > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > Maheshvara

in Shula

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> dasa

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > somewhere in my

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> memory, which is apparently wrong.

> > Anyway, I

> > > > > > > > > > > did

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> say

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> significance to wear gemstone

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > for it (either to increase or to

> > decrease).

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > So far I was informed about just a

few

> > rules

> > > > > > > > > > > > regarding

determining

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be

honest I

> > > > > > > > > > > thought

> > > > > > > > > > > > that

Ketu/Rahu

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> could

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > reverse counting only in case if it

is

> > in

> > > > 8th

> > > > > > > > > > > > from AK or

if Rahu

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more

useful

> > > > > > > > > > > > information

about this

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > issue.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones

> > issue...

> > > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > received one

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > completely unexpected gift today

> > afternoon:

> > > > > > > > > > > > silver ring

with a

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> pearl

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > and matching silver pectoral also

> > decorated

> > > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > pearls.

What is

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > this today...? I was never this much

> > > > involved

> > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > any thread

so

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> far.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear

it,

> > even

> > > > > > > > > > > > though

Chandra is not

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > lording my trines.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > Maja

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > --- In

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> @ .

com, "swami"

> > > > > > > > > > > <swami@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > Hari Om,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > Dear Maja,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > Your insights are great,

incidently I

> > was

> > > > > > > > > > > > struck at

your

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> mention

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > of " Yet, Sukra is also

maheshvara.. .

> > but I

> > > > > > > > > > > > don't think

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > that this latter one could be of

any

> > > > > > > > > > > >

significance) .

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > I could not understand How sukra

is

> > > > > > > > > > > > maheshwar.J

hora gives Ketu

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> as

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > maheswar planet . that also is

appears

> > > > > > > > > > > incorrect.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is

with

> > > > ketu

> > > > > > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > > > > > count to 8

th

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> would

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK

merc

> > > > leads

> > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > Leo.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > The sign lord is SUN.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries

so

> > SUN

> > > > > > > > > > > > becomes

Brahma Planet.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > In such an eventulaty we have to

count

> > 8th

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > 12 th from

Sun

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> the

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > maheswar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > Eight

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord

is

> > Jup.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > We apply parashar strength to

determne

> > > > > > > > > > > >

strenth.Ketu and jup are

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > both with one planet Jup is in dual

> > sign so

> > > > > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > > > per

naisargic bal

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Jup

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > is Maheswar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > You can check workng referring to

> > 2.1.47

> > > > > > > > > > > sutra.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > Now on thread question of wearing

gem

> > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > discussed.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih

> > > > > > > > > > > > knowledge

..So Gem stone of

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > planet that is maheswar if put in

left

> > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > > > diminish

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> knowledge.If

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > worn in Right hand should enhance

> > learning

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic

shahstra.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > Perhaps native has tried many

gems.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > By the way, influence of wearing

> > planet

> > > > > > > > > > > > related to

maheshwar is

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > not taught in parampara or in

> > scriptures,i

> > > > > > > > > > > could

> > > > > > > > > > > > access, so

this

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > last suggestion may be taken just a

> > logical

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> aplication.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > Hope it sets you to think and

> > experiment.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > with regards.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > OM TATSAT

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> ------------ --------- --------- -----

----

> > ---

> > > > -

> > > > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > > > -- ---------

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > Swami_RCS

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- -

----

> > ----

> > > > -

> > > > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > > > -----

--------

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious

> > > > > > > > > > > effulgence

> > > > > > > > > > > > of that

Divine

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Being

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > who has created the three

worlds.May He

> > > > > > > > > > > Direct

> > > > > > > > > > > > our

understanding. "

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- -

----

> > ----

> > > > -

> > > > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > > > -----

--------- --------

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> --

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > -

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > -

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > majastrbacastro

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > Saturday, July 05, 2008

7:10 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

> > Choosing

> > > > > > > > > > > > Gemstones

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev

> > maybe?),

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was

wearing

> > > > > > > > > > > > zircon on

his left

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> hand,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > so

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > that means he was weakening his

lord

> > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> 10th bhava in 9th...

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> And

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > additionally he was weakening

lord of

> > 3rd

> > > > > > > > > > > > bhava

(which is

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > considered

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is

also

> > > > > > > > > > > >

maheshvara.. . but I don't

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > think

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > that this latter one could be of

any

> > > > > > > > > > > >

significance) .

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > I really dislike complicating

simple

> > > > > > > > > > > things,

> > > > > > > > > > > > but this

time I

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> can

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha

Lagna is

> > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dhanu, yet

Mithuna is

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > stronger Rasi due to position of

> > Chandra

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > Guru in it.

That

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > means

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi

as

> > his

> > > > > > > > > > > > Arudha

Lagna. 12th

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava

from

> > > > > > > > > > > Arudha

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna

signifies

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > expenses. He was weakening this

one

> > also.

> > > > > > > > > > > > These are

just

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> thoughts...

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > Maja

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > --- In

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> , RKM

> > > > > > > > > > > >

<rajeevmundra@ >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > Dear Neeraj

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord

sitting

> > in

> > > > > > > > > > > 9th

> > > > > > > > > > > > house which

is a

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > Royal

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > Yoga.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may

have

> > > > > > > > > > > > helped you

grow in your

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > career.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be

> > very

> > > > > > > > > > > > suitable.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits

Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > Moon. -ve.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th

house. -

> > ve

> > > > > > > > > > > > (but ok if

malefic

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > debiliated in 12th

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > house)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries

and

> > > > > > > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> of 8th house.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and

> > > > > > > > > > > relatively

> > > > > > > > > > > > unafflicted

is

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > working

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> best.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > Suns stone would probably give

you

> > > > > > > > > > > better

> > > > > > > > > > > > health and

overall

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > luck.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > But venus will cause growth in

> > career.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > --

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > Ã'Ã...Ã² Ã'Ã"Ã0/00Ã'Ã"Ã?Ã'Ã"f

> > > > > > > > > > > >

Ã'Ã"Â´Ã'Ã"Æ'Ã'Ã"Â²Ã'Ã"Â¬Ã'Ã"Ã?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > RKM

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM,

> > yasoda

> > > > > > > > > > > > krsna

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> <yasodakrsna@ >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > Neeraj,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish

Gurus

> > of

> > > > > > > > > > > SJC

> > > > > > > > > > > > have made

error.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > Particularly in my case was

> > > > > > > > > > > recommended

> > > > > > > > > > > > Coral by

one,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Ruby

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > by

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > two.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased

by

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> recommended quality

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > gemologist.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > This gemstone recommendation

was

> > not

> > > > > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > > internet

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> questions

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > but

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > by paid

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > services.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > The good thing was the price

of

> > gold

> > > > > > > > > > > > soared and

made good

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > money

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > by selling

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > it.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath

> > > > > > > > > > > recommendation

> > > > > > > > > > > > of yellow

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> sapphire

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > as

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > it works.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship

their

> > > > > > > > > > > > Devata for

the

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> prediction

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > be true.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > Yasoda.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect

than

> > > > > > > > > > > > gemstone if

sincere

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta

<gupta_neeraj_

> > > > > > > > > > > 2000@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > vedic astrology@

.

> > com;

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008

> > 11:59:41 AM

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru]

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Choosing Gemstones

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > It's been more than four years

> > that I

> > > > > > > > > > > > studied

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> different

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > books on

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > gemstones

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > and got advise from different

good

> > > > > > > > > > > > astrologers

about the

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > gemstone. But none

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > of them gave very good result.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > As of now, some of the

following

> > > > > > > > > > > > theories

are present for

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > choosing

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > gemstone.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> (recommended by many

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> astrologers)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord

of

> > 1,

> > > > > > > > > > > 5,

> > > > > > > > > > > > and 9) -

Anukool

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics

> > (Partikool)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > However, I recently found

that one

> > > > > > > > > > > > gemstone

worked very

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> well

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > me. After

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > wearing that I got a very good

> > > > > > > > > > > results

> > > > > > > > > > > > in my

career and

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> also

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > my

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > income

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > increased by more than 100% in

> > > > > > > > > > > approx. 4

> > > > > > > > > > > > months.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not

> > > > > > > > > > > recommended

> > > > > > > > > > > > to me by any

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > astrologer

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > (though I

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > consulted several ones in

person)

> > and

> > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > no such

book it

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> was

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > mentioned that

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > I should choose this gemstone. I

read

> > > > > > > > > > > >

approximately 8-10

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > books

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > on gem

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the

> > forums, I

> > > > > > > > > > > > was not

advised to

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > wear

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > this gemstone.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised

Ruby,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Yellow

Sapphire and

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Red

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > Coral

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > different astrologers. One

even

> > > > > > > > > > > advised

> > > > > > > > > > > > blue

sapphire,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> that

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > made

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > matters

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > worse.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth

> > details

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > then I will

tell

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > gem

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > stone that

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > worked for me.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > The gemstone that worked was

> > Zircon

> > > > > > > > > > > > (Substitute

of

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Diamond).

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > worn this in

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold

and

> > > > > > > > > > > things

> > > > > > > > > > > > started

working

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > positive

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > automatically. I didn't did

any

> > thing

> > > > > > > > > > > > exceptional

in

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> my

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > personal / work

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > life. Now there are

somethings to

> > be

> > > > > > > > > > > > noted.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > 1. It's not lord of

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> trines.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is

not

> > > > > > > > > > > running.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > Still, it gave me good

results.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > On the basis of this, I

thought a

> > way

> > > > > > > > > > > > that may be

tried

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> if

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > some

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > one wants

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > to try. Please share your

> > results, so

> > > > > > > > > > > > that we can

know

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> more

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > about this.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > 1. Look for the planets

placed in

> > > > > > > > > > > 1,5,9

> > > > > > > > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava

> > Chart. If

> > > > > > > > > > > > any of the

planets

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > were in 1,5,9

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > house moves to

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> some other house, ignore that planet.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in

> > Trines

> > > > > > > > > > > > (1,5,9) in

both natal

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > chart

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> bhava

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > chart, choose that planet

(ignore

> > > > > > > > > > > rahu,

> > > > > > > > > > > > ketu)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was

> > found

> > > > > > > > > > > till

> > > > > > > > > > > > step 3 is

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> benefic

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > your

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then

> > choose

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > main

gemstone of

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > planet and

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > wear it in the right hand.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the

> > planet

> > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > was found in

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> step

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> 3

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > malefic,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > then choose the substitute

gem for

> > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > planet and

wear

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> it

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > the left hand.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > The above was just a thought that

came

> > to my

> > > > > > > > > > > > mind and if

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > some

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > one wants to

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > try it, they may do so for

> > > > > > > > > > > experiment.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly

share with

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > other

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > members, if

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > this method works for you.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > > > >

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>>>> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > Thank you for maintaining the

decorum

> > of the

> > > > > > > > > > > > Achyuta

Ashram.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the

Shadakshari

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mantra

'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian -

remember

> > > > Akbar

> > > > > > > > > > > > the Great

who said

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> that the human

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > stomach should not become a

graveyard

> > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > animals.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > (3) Practice charity in thought and

> > deed -

> > > > do

> > > > > > > > > > > > one free

chart

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> reading

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> > today

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>>>> Links

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>>>> ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum

of

> > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > Achyuta

Ashram.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari

> > > > > > > > > > > Mantra 'Hare

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rama

Krishna'

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian -

remember

> > Akbar

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > Great who

said that the human

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> stomach should not become a graveyard

for

> > > > > > > > > > > animals.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> (3) Practice charity in thought and

deed -

> > do

> > > > > > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > free chart

reading

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>>>> today

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