Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Namaste dear Anna, I forgot to add to first paragraph in my email: Yes, dear, we understand each other perfectly. I get the impression like your hand typed everything there was on my mind. We seem to share same point of view on spirituality. Okay, painful while it lasts, but when you take a look behind your back and draw a line, you can only say " I am glad " . We both don't really like that painful situation while it lasts, but I see that you are also observing those situations from a different angle then you used to. (Which in fact makes them less painful also) I don't know. It's royal highness " Suffering " ... Yes, that is ok. But I also think that leading a normal everyday life, taking care of your close ones, avoiding adharma in interpersonal relations and actions is at least on position number two, if not equal when you take a look at world around you. You did a great job with your friend. I hope she is a little more flexible than most of my friends (I wrote widely about them in my previous email). (Ohhhh, this was supposed to be just a few sentences... Now I think of so many things) I spent 17 years in AK MD, which is 2/3 of my whole life and... Nothing special happened that hurt me until Bu/Gu MD/AD. But I was a child (even though I remember events when I was just 2 years old) Well.. Okay, let's admit that when someone decides to live in celibacy, dedicate whole life completely to spirituality and attain moksha it is to be expected to " develop conditional reflex " for favoring suffer in a way. I am just talking about everyday life and everyday people who don't even take your or my approach (which is very similar as I can read. Oh, you also like to use irony? . Well there it is everything in my previous email. My frustration... and fear that I shall have to keep it for myself everything I have learned so far and all that what i am about to learn. That " softer and lighter approach to suffer and life/spirituality matters " we share. When I write about spirituality maybe you can get impression that my attitudes are similar to those written by a child who is yet about to learn some things in life. I sure hope you understand the basic point of what I am trying to say. Can you? (Oh, please, don't " throw yourself on me " with some quotations Again, my very best wishes in your studying dear Anna. Regards, Maja Hari Om Tat Sat sohamsa , 108ar <bona_mente wrote: > > Hi dear Maja, > I like your message and understand your kind reproaching me for not writing more- I used to write a lot, dear Maja, now, it seems it's is your turn, LOL. It's so refreshing to follow your way of studying divine science of Jyotish and your /intellectual/ honesty, (even when I don't agree with you) > I was ironic too when posed the question about badhakesh- Pain, suffering, loss..ah, so good for spirituality, sometimes I think I wouldn't deprive myself of that benefit even though it came with a big price tag/of suffering/. In every religion, /in art, psy.as well/.suffering holds noble, irreplaceable place on the path of attaining spirituality > In one mail you mentioned your frustration of not being able to " convert " clients /to spirituality, mantras/ in one hour- why would you do that? Every person has his own way in this respect, within the framework of religion one is born with. Who knows benefits of suffering, prayers/mantras?/ than /orthodox/ Christianity!- many think that glorification of suffering is the cause of it's 'martyr-like world-view, > I tend to agree with that. > > We all know, one way or another, that 'sweetness' of suffering, purification and maturity that comes as a reward- afterward! But we naturally tend to seek pleasure, avoid pain... and that should be appreciated in every reading- I believe that considerate, caring person > can present a reading as a helping tool to achieving 'maturity' /which, sure enough comes OFTEN, ALSO as a fruit of suffering/, if not 'spirituality' in its common use. > > Back to badhakesh- suffering is inevitable, but results are not- if we leave that crucial experience with bitterness and anger, we would most likely feel victimized. I guess we can help the person gain perspective, at least, in a reading. Striving to achieve more in one hour is wishful thinking- when the person is ready, road map to spirituality will appear. > > My most painful period in life was that of AK /period of badhakesh, in MKS, was 'easier' in terms of worldly success/ I've recently told one friend undergoing similar period what I've learned from mine- if you try to advance your 'mundane goals, you'd most likely get more frustrated- if you 'listen' to what you experience in silence, achieve a distance necessary for understanding your karma, you may expand your understanding of life, including yourself. > > Ok, I've just shared my impressions. > I read my mail once a week, sorry I didn't respond earlier. > Good Luck in your studies, > dear Maja. > Love, > Anna > > --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro wrote: > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Anna) > sohamsa > Sunday, July 13, 2008, 3:48 PM Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste dear Anna (hey there, another girl!? Welcome!!!), > > I hope that you are not having a plan to just sit there and read > this list. Maybe you could write something yourself from time to > time. It would be nice (and useful for learning). Though I think > that you wrote something recently, maybe a month ago? Your name and > ID seems familiar to me. > > I wish if I could help you more about your question. We are both in > the same position I am afraid. I don't know... Right now I am just > holding my fingers crossed and hoping that this explanation we are > both waiting is not about " it is a blessing for spirituality " . My > blood pressure is rising when I hear that. One of first few > sentences about Jyotish that I have learned was similar to this. It > was regarding my current MD. This person told me " It is bad for > health, career, finances... " I asked " until when? " and got > reply " Until 2010 " (It was back in February of 2006. Can you guess > how I felt to hear this?). Then he added " But it is great for > spirituality " (And it was few months before I have even heard of > SJC). I was like " Oh, great, now I feel much better... " (Of course I > was ironic). So, now you know what it means when Jyotisha predicts a > great period for spirituality. For 99% of world wide population it > means that one should start digging hole in the ground and fill bags > with sand. (But it turned out I am ok in " My spirituality " . I > started to like it > > I am waiting with you... > > P.S. I appreciate people who appreciate honest and open minded > people. > > Regards, > Maja > > sohamsa@ .com, 108ar <bona_mente@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Raphal and Maja, > > I am dying to learn why/when 'Badhakesh can be blessing for an > individual, as Raphael wrote. > > btw. I read all your posts with interest, I appreciate that > you both are honest and open-minded astrol' s > > best wishes, > > Anna > > > > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote: > > > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Rafal > Ji) > > sohamsa@ .com > > Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste dear Rafal Ji, > > > > Okay... let me finally introduce myself: My name is Maja and I > have > > no idea yet what is the art design for front page of " Vedic > > remedies " by Sanjay Rath, but I am about to find it out till the > end > > of this month when friend of mine is supposed to come back from > > India with my copy of this book. Nice to meet you too. > > > > 1. You see, that list of " NO " points are what I have learned so > far > > about gemstones, so when you take it in consideration, the only > > conclusion I can make for now is that there is no suitable > gemstone > > I can prescribe for any Kanya lagna (including myself, and (still > > only with taking that list in consideration) especially because of > > Sk in trika bhava). That is the reason why I wrote that I find > that > > list very frustrating. Of course, another reason is that I assumed > > that there must be deeper story behind those points I wrote, > except > > I haven't got that far yet (I don't have a plan to stop myself > here > > with gemstones, don't worry). I'll trust you on that advice about > > diamond exactly because I understand that this list is not " the > edge > > of the world " about criteria for choosing. But it is nice to find > > out at the same time that I can advice diamond to a friend of mine > > who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is in 9th bhava. If I am o.k. she > > is going to bloom with diamond. As I understand in her case there > is > > no single reason to avoid it. > > > > 2. Well I am at the kinder garden level with gemstones. I just > play > > with that a little. (But mantras are still… There I am a new born > > baby) Right now I am doing everything possible from my position to > > get closer to elementary school. (Don't take personally following > > lines, please. It is nothing pointed to you.) " Badhakesh many > times > > is blessing to the native " . From the perspective of kinder garden > I > > can give no knowledgably comment on this sentence. By the time I > > reach that deeper perspective I just hope that I shall not meet > with > > explanation that sounds like " If you focus real hard you can prove > > hypothesis that elephant can hang over from a cliff with his tail > > holding to a daisy " , because I ran off from Western Astrology > > exactly because of such things. I would take it real hard to > > disappoint in Jyotish. That explanation better be very good and > > reasonable. > > > > Regards, > > Maja > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > > > > > 1. Why is it frustrating for Kanya with Shukra in trika? Do you > > mean it > > > takes away the viveka to choose a gem as general or its > > problematic to > > > choose a gem for you? For your chart its diamond..easy. > > > > > > 2. In choosing a gem the planet (gem-karaka) should bless one > with > > the > > > material / emotional goods. So dusthana, maraka, badhakesh, > neelam > > can > > > be good depending on a chart - as they can provide goods to the > > native. > > > Sri Jagannath Center tries to teach class of astrologers which > > will rise > > > above those generalizations like 'dusthana is bad, maraka is > bad, > > > badhakesh is bad' etc..thats kindergarden astrology. Badhakesh > > many > > > times is blessing to the native. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > Ohh... so that was the catch! Thank you very much. > > > > > > > > It is just that I find following list very frustrating > sometimes: > > > > > > > > Lord of 2nd & 7th, maraka-NO! > > > > Lord of 6, 8 & 12th, dustahn-NO! > > > > Lord of 3rd & 11th, trika-NO! > > > > Graha in dustahn-NO! > > > > Graha in trika-NO! > > > > Badhakesh-NO! > > > > Blue sapphire-NO! > > > > Green emerald-NO! > > > > > > > > (I also find it very frustrating because I am Kanya lagna with > > Sukra > > > > in trika bhava > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Maja > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > > 40. com>, > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > Dear Maja & SS , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > Usually we perscribe gems for kona lords to increase the > rise, > > > > fortune > > > > > and wealth of native. > > > > > > > > > > Here Mangal is unafflicted and wellplaced so it will give > > effect > > > > of > > > > > Lagnesh and not sixth lord. > > > > > > > > > > Instead Shani will give effect of sixth lord giving problem > to > > > > pitta and > > > > > tridoshic problems of genital area/anus (right side) (82- 91). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> / email: > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't have to write too much, question is same (down > there > > in > > > > > > previous email from SS). > > > > > > > > > > > > Help us? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Maja > > > > > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > > 40. com> > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please can you advise why Coral will be appropriate even > > though > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > is 6th lord? > > > > > > > Is it because it lords 9th from AL? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanx > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com> <sohamsa% > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > > Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the gem will > > > > activate > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > Parivartana means that Diamond will activate Bu in 3 > > from AL > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > afflicts career life and skills of native. > > > > > > > > 2. Neck influences thinking. > > > > > > > > 3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet > > forward in > > > > > > > kalachakra > > > > > > > > scheme. > > > > > > > > 4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak. > Badhakesh > > in > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga > > > > > > > > 5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in twelfth. I > > follow > > > > > > Sanjayji > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > also looks at lord when bhava is empty. > > > > > > > > 6. We can do everything if we know what we are doing. > > > > Planets in > > > > > > > lagna, > > > > > > > > fifth and tenth eclipses the others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rajarshi nandy pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was trying to understand your advise to Mr Sunil. > It > > > > would > > > > > > be > > > > > > > great > > > > > > > > > if you could kindly clarify some points which I > could > > not > > > > > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th lord, > due > > to > > > > yuti > > > > > > > causing > > > > > > > > > exchange of effects? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck? What > > is its > > > > > > > significance? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will give > > effects > > > > of > > > > > > > shani. > > > > > > > > > Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? But i > > > > thought > > > > > > it > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please tell me > > the > > > > exact > > > > > > > rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa > badhaka. > > In > > > > that > > > > > > > case > > > > > > > > > shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to nagraj > > temple? > > > > Why > > > > > > is > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Krishna idol donation neeeded? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajarshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /* > > > > > > > > > * " This above all: to thine own self be true! " - > Hamlet* > > > > > > > > > */ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ > >/* > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > > > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones > > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > > > > > > > Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > > >> Dear Sunil, Namaskar > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> 1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord > > which is > > > > > > > > >> negative, but will also improve the finances and > > > > > > Chandra..so > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > >> not perfect. Coral has less side-effects here. > > > > > > > > >> 2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for > karma. > > > > > > > > >> 3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified > by > > AK. > > > > > > Irs > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > >> in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL. > > > > > > > > >> 4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial > > setbacks > > > > > > > (rasi) > > > > > > > > >> and then improvement (navamsa). > > > > > > > > >> 5. Just please try to perform those remedies which > I > > have > > > > > > > given > > > > > > > > >> in the last mail. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the > Sarpa > > > > > > should > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > >> broken and the ninth lord should be lifted - > > Bhuvanesvari. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be > > > > > > remedied > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > >> gift of idol/picture related to Sri Krishna. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Regards, > > > > > > > > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > > >> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> Dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > >>> Namaskar > > > > > > > > >>> Thank you very much for your guidance. I like to > hear > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > >>> comments, not just about me, but even regarding > other > > > > > > > > >>> person/subject > > > > > > > > >>> Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still > > > > > > wearing > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > >>> Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring > finger. > > > > > > Should > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > >>> be removed too? Not that I see any visible > difference > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > >>> wearing it. > > > > > > > > >>> I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean > Coral > > in > > > > > > my > > > > > > > case) > > > > > > > > >>> in gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions > for > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > >>> Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow > > > > > > Sapphire to > > > > > > > > >>> boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due > to > > > > > > > Rahu's 9th > > > > > > > > >>> aspect. Is it appropriate? > > > > > > > > >>> As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good > > period > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > >>> the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic > > gains > > > > > > > now and > > > > > > > > >>> then but nothing substantial. I would love to > change > > the > > > > > > > > >>> situation, if I can, and solicit your advice in > this > > > > > > > regard. If > > > > > > > > >>> you will be kind enough to please give me a clear > > idea > > > > > > what > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > >>> can do. > > > > > > > > >>> Regards > > > > > > > > >>> Sunil > > > > > > > > >>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ > > > > > > wp.pl>/* > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > > > > > > > > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > > Gemstones > > > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > > >>> Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with > > > > > > rahu in > > > > > > > > >>> Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna idol/picture to > > > > > > > > >>> temple/spiritual person. > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> You can wear only Coral. > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in > > > > > > > third/ninth > > > > > > > > >>> - only in dasa of this malefic - instead use right > > > > > > hand > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > >>> fortune-gem. > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana > and > > > > > > > > >>> worship Hanumanji sincerly! > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome > > > > > > as > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > >>> the strength period (neechavastha) , after initial > > > > > > > struggle > > > > > > > > >>> there should be improvement due to exaltation in > d9. > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > >>> period works for spirituality a lot due to > karakaamsa > > > > > > > > >>> position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra and > > > > > > being > > > > > > > GK > > > > > > > > >>> it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will > be > > > > > > > > >>> strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact > > > > > > that > > > > > > > Mo > > > > > > > > >>> in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H). > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> Regards, > > > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > > >>> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com/ > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/> > > > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/ <http://www.rohinaa. com/>>> / > > > > > > > email: > > > > > > > > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > > > > > >>>> Dear Maja, > > > > > > > > >>>> I fully appreciate your openness about various > > > > > > > observations > > > > > > > > >>>> made so far. At least you are better than me when > > > > > > you > > > > > > > say > > > > > > > > >>>> few charts are clear to you. To me all of them > look > > > > > > > confusing. > > > > > > > > >>>> My birth data is as follows: > > > > > > > > >>>> DOB: 21st September 1955 > > > > > > > > >>>> TOB: 10:32 A.M. > > > > > > > > >>>> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27) > > > > > > > > >>>> Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am > > > > > > not > > > > > > > in a > > > > > > > > >>>> hurry. > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards > > > > > > > > >>>> Sunil > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, > > > > > > majastrbacastro /<majastrbacastro@ > > > > > > > > >>>> > <majastrbaca stro@>/* wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> <majastrbaca stro@> > > > > > > > > >>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > > Gemstones > > > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > >>>> Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > > >>>> Namaste > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> My decision > > > > > > > > >>>> to wear that gift I received has nothing to do > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > >>>> procedure of determining proper gemstone It > > > > > > is > > > > > > > just that I wear > > > > > > > > >>>> jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find > > > > > > it > > > > > > > very entertaining > > > > > > > > >>>> to learn about gemstones (not just for past two > > > > > > > days), for past > > > > > > > > >>>> month or two I had a few dialogues regarding > > > > > > same > > > > > > > kind of ring that > > > > > > > > >>>> you are wearing right now, and it turned out it > > > > > > is > > > > > > > not suitable for > > > > > > > > >>>> me when I was about to buy one. What happened > > > > > > > yesterday I consider > > > > > > > > >>>> it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for > > > > > > > few months. (If I > > > > > > > > >>>> suddenly disappear from list it will mean that > > > > > > it > > > > > > > was a wrong > > > > > > > > >>>> decision > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would > > > > > > > like to look at > > > > > > > > >>>> whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to > > > > > > > take it just as an > > > > > > > > >>>> opinion. As I have said on the beginning of > > > > > > this > > > > > > > thread I am not > > > > > > > > >>>> quite skilled with this issue, so have this > > > > > > > > >>>> in mind (Though it was > > > > > > > > >>>> not so difficult for me to say that ruby is > > > > > > proper > > > > > > > > >>>> gemstone for > > > > > > > > >>>> Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so > > > > > > > confusing as they > > > > > > > > >>>> often could be in various charts. When > > > > > > positions > > > > > > > in chart are > > > > > > > > >>>> complicated I choose to say " I don't know " > > > > > > rather > > > > > > > than to ruin > > > > > > > > >>>> someone's life.) > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > > > > > >>>> Maja > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> , Sunil > > > > > > > Sharma > > > > > > > > >>>> <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Dear Maja, > > > > > > > > >>>> > I have been reading each and every message on > > > > > > > this thread and, at > > > > > > > > >>>> the outset, was surprised to read about > > > > > > Neeraj's > > > > > > > observations. > > > > > > > > >>>> However, things became quite clear later on > > > > > > > especially with your > > > > > > > > >>>> comments on antardasha. > > > > > > > > >>>> > Your very last sentence in your last mail > > > > > > (even > > > > > > > though chandra is > > > > > > > > >>>> not lording my trines) caught my attention. > > > > > > > Debilitated chandra (in > > > > > > > > >>>> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my > > > > > > > chart with exalted > > > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka > > > > > > > > >>>> Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu > > > > > > conjoining > > > > > > > moon in > > > > > > > > >>>> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th > > > > > > > > >>>> house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY > > > > > > > > >>>> or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, > > > > > > the > > > > > > > net result is > > > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already > > > > > > > afflicted due to > > > > > > > > >>>> debilitation) is afflicted. All this is > > > > > > something > > > > > > > I have been told > > > > > > > > >>>> by various astrologers (not necessarily all at > > > > > > the > > > > > > > same time). > > > > > > > > >>>> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and > > > > > > Diamond > > > > > > > to me. I am still > > > > > > > > >>>> wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand > > > > > > > ring finger > > > > > > > > >>>> (presently going through Venus dasha), and > > > > > > Coral > > > > > > > in gold pendant in > > > > > > > > >>>> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier > > > > > > > but changed it to a > > > > > > > > >>>> pendant and wore it in the neck in a black > > > > > > string. > > > > > > > I have since > > > > > > > > >>>> removed it but I must say that whenever I wear > > > > > > > Pearl it quietens my > > > > > > > > >>>> temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any > > > > > > > improvement in my > > > > > > > > >>>> career or financial aspects. > > > > > > > > >>>> > Now, my real question to you is > > > > > > > > >>>> this. Moon being afflicted and > > > > > > > > >>>> left hand to be used (for the effect to be > > > > > > > reduced), I should > > > > > > > > >>>> have > > > > > > > > >>>> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You > > > > > > > may take few days to > > > > > > > > >>>> reply! I am not in a hurry. > > > > > > > > >>>> > Regards > > > > > > > > >>>> > Sunil > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro > > > > > > > <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> > > > > > > > > >>>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > > > Gemstones (Swami) > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Namaste dear Swami, > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra > > > > > > > being unfavorable > > > > > > > > >>>> Graha > > > > > > > > >>>> > in this chart, those mentioned were the only > > > > > > one > > > > > > > I could find (and > > > > > > > > >>>> > that was after quite some time spent in > > > > > > serious > > > > > > > thinking). It is > > > > > > > > >>>> my > > > > > > > > >>>> > mistake to " equalize " effects of Rudra and > > > > > > > Maheshvara in Shula > > > > > > > > >>>> dasa > > > > > > > > >>>> > somewhere in my > > > > > > > > >>>> memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I > > > > > > did > > > > > > > > >>>> say > > > > > > > > >>>> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any > > > > > > > > >>>> significance to wear gemstone > > > > > > > > >>>> > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > So far I was informed about just a few rules > > > > > > > regarding determining > > > > > > > > >>>> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I > > > > > > thought > > > > > > > that Ketu/Rahu > > > > > > > > >>>> could > > > > > > > > >>>> > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th > > > > > > > from AK or if Rahu > > > > > > > > >>>> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful > > > > > > > information about this > > > > > > > > >>>> > issue. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... > > > > > > I > > > > > > > received one > > > > > > > > >>>> > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: > > > > > > > silver ring with a > > > > > > > > >>>> pearl > > > > > > > > >>>> > and matching silver pectoral also decorated > > > > > > with > > > > > > > pearls. What is > > > > > > > > >>>> > this today...? I was never this much involved > > > > > > in > > > > > > > any thread so > > > > > > > > >>>> far. > > > > > > > > >>>> > WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear it, even > > > > > > > though Chandra is not > > > > > > > > >>>> > lording my trines. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > > > > > >>>> > Maja > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > --- In > > > > > > > > >>>> , " swami " > > > > > > <swami@> > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om, > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Dear Maja, > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Your insights are great, incidently I was > > > > > > > struck at your > > > > > > > > >>>> mention > > > > > > > > >>>> > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I > > > > > > > don't think > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > > > > > significance) . > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I could not understand How sukra is > > > > > > > maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu > > > > > > > > >>>> as > > > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar planet . that also is appears > > > > > > incorrect. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu > > > > > > so > > > > > > > count to 8 th > > > > > > > > >>>> would > > > > > > > > >>>> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads > > > > > > to > > > > > > > Leo. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > The sign lord is SUN. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN > > > > > > > becomes Brahma Planet. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th > > > > > > and > > > > > > > 12 th from Sun > > > > > > > > >>>> the > > > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Eight > > > > > > > > >>>> lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > We apply parashar strength to determne > > > > > > > strenth.Ketu and jup are > > > > > > > > >>>> > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so > > > > > > as > > > > > > > per naisargic bal > > > > > > > > >>>> Jup > > > > > > > > >>>> > is Maheswar. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 > > > > > > sutra. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is > > > > > > > discussed. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih > > > > > > > knowledge .So Gem stone of > > > > > > > > >>>> > planet that is maheswar if put in left should > > > > > > > diminish > > > > > > > > >>>> knowledge.If > > > > > > > > >>>> > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of > > > > > > > vedic shahstra. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Perhaps native has tried many gems. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > By the way, influence of wearing planet > > > > > > > related to maheshwar is > > > > > > > > >>>> > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i > > > > > > could > > > > > > > access, so this > > > > > > > > >>>> > last suggestion may be taken just a logical > > > > > > > > >>>> aplication. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > with regards. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > OM TATSAT > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > -- --------- > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Swami_RCS > > > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > ----- -------- > > > > > > > > >>>> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious > > > > > > effulgence > > > > > > > of that Divine > > > > > > > > >>>> Being > > > > > > > > >>>> > who has created the three worlds.May He > > > > > > Direct > > > > > > > our understanding. " > > > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > ----- --------- -------- > > > > > > > > >>>> -- > > > > > > > > >>>> > - > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > - > > > > > > > > >>>> > > majastrbacastro > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM > > > > > > > > >>>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > > > Gemstones > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?), > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing > > > > > > > zircon on his left > > > > > > > > >>>> hand, > > > > > > > > >>>> > so > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that means he was weakening his lord of > > > > > > > > >>>> 10th bhava in 9th... > > > > > > > > >>>> And > > > > > > > > >>>> > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd > > > > > > > bhava (which is > > > > > > > > >>>> > considered > > > > > > > > >>>> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also > > > > > > > maheshvara.. . but I don't > > > > > > > > >>>> > think > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > > > > > significance) . > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I really dislike complicating simple > > > > > > things, > > > > > > > but this time I > > > > > > > > >>>> can > > > > > > > > >>>> > not > > > > > > > > >>>> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in > > > > > > > Dhanu, yet Mithuna is > > > > > > > > >>>> > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra > > > > > > and > > > > > > > Guru in it. That > > > > > > > > >>>> > means > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his > > > > > > > Arudha Lagna. 12th > > > > > > > > >>>> lord > > > > > > > > >>>> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from > > > > > > Arudha > > > > > > > Lagna signifies > > > > > > > > >>>> > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. > > > > > > > These are just > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> thoughts... > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Regards, > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Maja > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > --- In > > > > > > > > >>>> , RKM > > > > > > > <rajeevmundra@ > > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Dear Neeraj > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in > > > > > > 9th > > > > > > > house which is a > > > > > > > > >>>> > Royal > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Yoga. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have > > > > > > > helped you grow in your > > > > > > > > >>>> > > career. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very > > > > > > > suitable. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter > > > > > > and > > > > > > > Moon. -ve. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve > > > > > > > (but ok if malefic > > > > > > > > >>>> > > debiliated in 12th > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > house) > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and > > > > > > just > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > >>>> of 8th house. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and > > > > > > relatively > > > > > > > unafflicted is > > > > > > > > >>>> > working > > > > > > > > >>>> > > the > > > > > > > > >>>> best. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Suns stone would probably give you > > > > > > better > > > > > > > health and overall > > > > > > > > >>>> > luck. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > But venus will cause growth in career. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > -- > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Ã'Ã...ò Ã'à " Ã0/00Ã'à " Ã?Ã'à " f > > > > > > > Ã'à " ´Ã'à " Æ'Ã'à " ²Ã'à " ¬Ã'à " Ã? > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > RKM > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda > > > > > > > krsna > > > > > > > > >>>> <yasodakrsna@ > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj, > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of > > > > > > SJC > > > > > > > have made error. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Particularly in my case was > > > > > > recommended > > > > > > > Coral by one, > > > > > > > > >>>> Ruby > > > > > > > > >>>> > by > > > > > > > > >>>> > > two. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by > > > > > > > > >>>> recommended quality > > > > > > > > >>>> > gemologist. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not > > > > > > by > > > > > > > internet > > > > > > > > >>>> questions > > > > > > > > >>>> > but > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > by paid > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > services. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The good thing was the price of gold > > > > > > > soared and made good > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > money > > > > > > > > >>>> > > by selling > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > it. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath > > > > > > recommendation > > > > > > > of yellow > > > > > > > > >>>> sapphire > > > > > > > > >>>> > as > > > > > > > > >>>> > > it works. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their > > > > > > > Devata for the > > > > > > > > >>>> prediction > > > > > > > > >>>> > to > > > > > > > > >>>> > > be true. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Yasoda. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than > > > > > > > gemstone if sincere > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ > > > > > > 2000@> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > vedic astrology; > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > >>>> Choosing Gemstones > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > It's been more than four years that I > > > > > > > studied > > > > > > > > >>>> different > > > > > > > > >>>> > books on > > > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstones > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > and got advise from different good > > > > > > > astrologers about the > > > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstone. But none > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > of them gave very good result. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > As of now, some of the following > > > > > > > theories are present for > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > choosing > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > gemstone. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord > > > > > > > > >>>> (recommended by many > > > > > > > > >>>> astrologers) > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, > > > > > > 5, > > > > > > > and 9) - Anukool > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool) > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > However, I recently found that one > > > > > > > gemstone worked very > > > > > > > > >>>> well > > > > > > > > >>>> > for > > > > > > > > >>>> > > me. After > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wearing that I got a very good > > > > > > results > > > > > > > in my career and > > > > > > > > >>>> also > > > > > > > > >>>> > my > > > > > > > > >>>> > > income > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > increased by more than 100% in > > > > > > approx. 4 > > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not > > > > > > recommended > > > > > > > to me by any > > > > > > > > >>>> > astrologer > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > (though I > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > consulted several ones in person) and > > > > > > in > > > > > > > no such book it > > > > > > > > >>>> was > > > > > > > > >>>> > > mentioned that > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > I should choose this gemstone. I read > > > > > > > approximately 8-10 > > > > > > > > >>>> > books > > > > > > > > >>>> > > on gem > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I > > > > > > > was not advised to > > > > > > > > >>>> > wear > > > > > > > > >>>> > > this gemstone. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, > > > > > > > Yellow Sapphire and > > > > > > > > >>>> Red > > > > > > > > >>>> > Coral > > > > > > > > >>>> > > by > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > different astrologers. One even > > > > > > advised > > > > > > > blue sapphire, > > > > > > > > >>>> that > > > > > > > > >>>> > made > > > > > > > > >>>> > > matters > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > worse. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details > > > > > > and > > > > > > > then I will tell > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > gem > > > > > > > > >>>> > > stone that > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > worked for me. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978 > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA) > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon > > > > > > > (Substitute of > > > > > > > > >>>> Diamond). > > > > > > > > >>>> > I > > > > > > > > >>>> > > worn this in > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and > > > > > > things > > > > > > > started working > > > > > > > > >>>> > positive > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing > > > > > > > exceptional in > > > > > > > > >>>> my > > > > > > > > >>>> > > personal / work > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be > > > > > > > noted. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. It's not lord of > > > > > > > > >>>> trines. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not > > > > > > running. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Still, it gave me good results. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way > > > > > > > that may be tried > > > > > > > > >>>> if > > > > > > > > >>>> > some > > > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > to try. Please share your results, so > > > > > > > that we can know > > > > > > > > >>>> more > > > > > > > > >>>> > > about this. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in > > > > > > 1,5,9 > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If > > > > > > > any of the planets > > > > > > > > >>>> > that > > > > > > > > >>>> > > were in 1,5,9 > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > house moves to > > > > > > > > >>>> some other house, ignore that planet. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines > > > > > > > (1,5,9) in both natal > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > chart > > > > > > > > >>>> > > and > > > > > > > > >>>> bhava > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore > > > > > > rahu, > > > > > > > ketu) > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found > > > > > > till > > > > > > > step 3 is > > > > > > > > >>>> benefic > > > > > > > > >>>> > for > > > > > > > > >>>> > > your > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose > > > > > > the > > > > > > > main gemstone of > > > > > > > > >>>> > that > > > > > > > > >>>> > > planet and > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wear it in the right hand. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet > > > > > > that > > > > > > > was found in > > > > > > > > >>>> step > > > > > > > > >>>> 3 > > > > > > > > >>>> > is > > > > > > > > >>>> > > malefic, > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > then choose the substitute gem for > > > > > > that > > > > > > > planet and wear > > > > > > > > >>>> it > > > > > > > > >>>> > in > > > > > > > > >>>> > > the left hand. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > The above was just a thought that came to my > > > > > > > mind and if > > > > > > > > >>>> > some > > > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants to > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > try it, they may do so for > > > > > > experiment. > > > > > > > Kindly share with > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > other > > > > > > > > >>>> > > members, if > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > this method works for you. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > > > > > >>>> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > > > > > >>>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > > > > > > Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > > > > > > >>>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > > > > > > the Great who said > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> that the human > > > > > > > > >>>> > stomach should not become a graveyard for > > > > > > > animals. > > > > > > > > >>>> > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > > > > > > one free chart > > > > > > > > >>>> reading > > > > > > > > >>>> > today > > > > > > > > >>>> Links > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > > > > > >>>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > > > > > >>>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > > > > > Mantra 'Hare > > > > > > > Rama Krishna' > > > > > > > > >>>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > > > > > the > > > > > > > Great who said that the human > > > > > > > > >>>> stomach should not become a graveyard for > > > > > > animals. > > > > > > > > >>>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > > > > > one > > > > > > > free chart reading > > > > > > > > >>>> today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Dear Maja, What a pleasure reading your writings! Your understanding of my message is correct. I'd just add that 'spirituality' is 'hard sell', just because many connect it with suffering. I tend to avoid/limit the use of the term for that reason. We can always tell someone in a difficult period that he/she would be facing 'challenges'- my opservation is that people with 'difficult' charts understand that better than those 'spoild' by lack of difficulties. It seems also to be true, that 'high achievers' do have difficult chart-you may have seen sarpa yoga in some successful peoples' charts. Challenges give 'musles' and 'depth', indeed. Whether that is utilized in worldly ambitions or 'spirituality' is another issue. One will benefit more from a difficult period if he tried and failed than if he did nothing /except suffering/, because at the end of it there will be little reward to be reaped, Is it always clear from the chart ? Do we help people see their options with less fear and more optimism? Having suffered ourselves, we are /therethically/ better able to help others, reduce their suffering and inspire hopefullness. If everything else fails the fact that 'nothing lasts for ever' is comfort in its own right. Besides, if I failed to accomplish what I wanted in this lifetime, not to worry, LOL, another life will come /hard sell, as well/ Love, Anna --- On Sun, 7/20/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro wrote: Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Anna) IIsohamsa Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 9:34 AM Om Gurave NamahNamaste dear Anna,I forgot to add to first paragraph in my email: Yes, dear, we understand each other perfectly. I get the impression like your hand typed everything there was on my mind. We seem to share same point of view on spirituality. Okay, painful while it lasts, but when you take a look behind your back and draw a line, you can only say "I am glad". We both don't really like that painful situation while it lasts, but I see that you are also observing those situations from a different angle then you used to. (Which in fact makes them less painful also)I don't know. It's royal highness "Suffering". .. Yes, that is ok. But I also think that leading a normal everyday life, taking care of your close ones, avoiding adharma in interpersonal relations and actions is at least on position number two, if not equal when you take a look at world around you. You did a great job with your friend. I hope she is a little more flexible than most of my friends (I wrote widely about them in my previous email).(Ohhhh, this was supposed to be just a few sentences... Now I think of so many things)I spent 17 years in AK MD, which is 2/3 of my whole life and... Nothing special happened that hurt me until Bu/Gu MD/AD. But I was a child (even though I remember events when I was just 2 years old)Well.. Okay, let's admit that when someone decides to live in celibacy, dedicate whole life completely to spirituality and attain moksha it is to be expected to "develop conditional reflex" for favoring suffer in a way.I am just talking about everyday life and everyday people who don't even take your or my approach (which is very similar as I can read. Oh, you also like to use irony? . Well there it is everything in my previous email. My frustration. .. and fear that I shall have to keep it for myself everything I have learned so far and all that what i am about to learn. That "softer and lighter approach to suffer and life/spirituality matters" we share.When I write about spirituality maybe you can get impression that my attitudes are similar to those written by a child who is yet about to learn some things in life. I sure hope you understand the basic point of what I am trying to say. Can you? (Oh, please, don't "throw yourself on me" with some quotations :)Again, my very best wishes in your studying dear Anna.Regards,MajaHari Om Tat Satsohamsa@ .com, 108ar <bona_mente@ ...> wrote:>> Hi dear Maja,> I like your message and understand your kind reproaching me for not writing more- I used to write a lot, dear Maja, now, it seems it's is your turn, LOL. It's so refreshing to follow your way of studying divine science of Jyotish and your /intellectual/ honesty,(even when I don't agree with you)> I was ironic too when posed the question about badhakesh- Pain, suffering, loss..ah, so good for spirituality, sometimes I think I wouldn't deprive myself of that benefit even though it came with a big price tag/of suffering/. In every religion, /in art, psy.as well/.suffering holds noble, irreplaceable place on the path of attaining spirituali ty > In one mail you mentioned your frustration of not being able to "convert" clients /to spirituality, mantras/ in one hour- why would you do that? Every person has his own way in this respect, within the framework of religion one is born with. Who knows benefits of suffering, prayers/mantras? / than /orthodox/ Christianity! - many think that glorification of suffering is the cause of it's 'martyr-like world-view, > I tend to agree with that. > > We all know, one way or another, that 'sweetness' of suffering, purification and maturity that comes as a reward- afterward! But we naturally tend to seek pleasure, avoid pain... and that should be appreciated in every reading- I believe that considerate, caring person> can present a reading as a helping tool to achieving 'maturity' /which, sure enough comes OFTEN, ALSO as a fruit of suffering/, if not 'spirituality' in its common use. > > Back to badhakesh- suffering is inevitable, but results are not- if we leave that crucial experience with bitterness and anger, we would most likely feel victimized. I guess we can help the person gain perspective, at least, in a reading. Striving to achieve more in one hour is wishful thinking- when the person is ready, road map to spirituality will appear.> > My most painful period in life was that of AK /period of badhakesh, in MKS, was 'easier' in terms of worldly success/ I've recently told one friend undergoing similar period what I've learned from mine- if you try to advance your 'mundane goals, you'd most likely get more frustrated- if you 'listen' to what you experience in silence, achieve a distance necessary for understanding your karma, you may expand your understanding of life, including yourself.> > Ok, I've just shared my impressions. > I read my mail once a week, sorry I didn't respond earlier.> Good Luck in your studies,> dear Maja.> Love, > Anna> > --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:> > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Anna)> sohamsa@ .com> Sunday, July 13, 2008, 3:48 PM> > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > Namaste dear Anna (hey there, another girl!? Welcome!!!),> > I hope that you are not having a plan to just sit there and read > this list. Maybe you could write something yourself from time to > time. It would be nice (and useful for learning). Though I think > that you wrote something recently, maybe a month ago? Your name and > ID seems familiar to me.> > I wish if I could help you more about your question. We are both in > the same position I am afraid. I don't know... Right now I am just > holding my fingers crossed and hoping that this explanation we are > both waiting is not about "it is a blessing for spirituality" . My > blood pressure is rising when I hear that. One of first few > sentences about Jyotish that I have learned was similar to this. It > was regarding my current MD. This person told me "It is bad for > health, career, finances..." I asked "until when?" and got > reply "Until 2010" (It was back in February of 2006. Can you guess > how I felt to hear this?). Then he added "But it is great for > spirituality" (And it was few months before I have even heard of > SJC). I was like "Oh, great, now I feel much better..." (Of course I > was ironic). So, now you know what it means when Jyotisha predicts a > great period for spirituality. For 99% of world wide population it > means that one should start digging hole in the ground and fill bags > with sand. (But it turned out I am ok in "My spirituality" . I > started to like it > > I am waiting with you...> > P.S. I appreciate people who appreciate honest and open minded > people.> > Regards,> Maja> > sohamsa@ .com, 108ar <bona_mente@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Raphal and Maja,> > I am dying to learn why/when 'Badhakesh can be blessing for an > individual, as Raphael wrote.> > btw. I read all your posts with interest, I appreciate that > you both are honest and open-minded astrol' s> > best wishes,> > Anna > > > > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:> > > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Rafal > Ji)> > To: sohamsa@ .com> > Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:02 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Namaste dear Rafal Ji,> > > > Okay... let me finally introduce myself: My name is Maja and I > have > > no idea yet what is the art design for front page of "Vedic > > remedies" by Sanjay Rath, but I am about to find it out till the > end > > of this month when friend of mine is supposed to come back from > > India with my copy of this book. Nice to meet you too. > > > > 1. You see, that list of "NO" points are what I have learned so > far > > about gemstones, so when you take it in consideration, the only > > conclusion I can make for now is that there is no suitable > gemstone > > I can prescribe for any Kanya lagna (including myself, and (still > > only with taking that list in consideration) especially because of > > Sk in trika bhava). That is the reason why I wrote that I find > that > > list very frustrating. Of course, another reason is that I assumed > > that there must be deeper story behind those points I wrote, > except > > I haven't got that far yet (I don't have a plan to stop myself > here > > with gemstones, don't worry). I'll trust you on that advice about > > diamond exactly because I understand that this list is not "the > edge > > of the world" about criteria for choosing. But it is nice to find > > out at the same time that I can advice diamond to a friend of mine > > who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is in 9th bhava. If I am o.k. she > > is going to bloom with diamond. As I understand in her case there > is > > no single reason to avoid it.> > > > 2. Well I am at the kinder garden level with gemstones. I just > play > > with that a little. (But mantras are still… There I am a new born > > baby) Right now I am doing everything possible from my position to > > get closer to elementary school. (Don't take personally following > > lines, please. It is nothing pointed to you.) "Badhakesh many > times > > is blessing to the native". From the perspective of kinder garden > I > > can give no knowledgably comment on this sentence. By the time I > > reach that deeper perspective I just hope that I shall not meet > with > > explanation that sounds like "If you focus real hard you can prove > > hypothesis that elephant can hang over from a cliff with his tail > > holding to a daisy", because I ran off from Western Astrology > > exactly because of such things. I would take it real hard to > > disappoint in Jyotish. That explanation better be very good and > > reasonable. > > > > Regards,> > Maja> > > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > > wrote:> > >> > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > Dear Maja, Namaskar> > > > > > 1. Why is it frustrating for Kanya with Shukra in trika? Do you > > mean it > > > takes away the viveka to choose a gem as general or its > > problematic to > > > choose a gem for you? For your chart its diamond..easy.> > > > > > 2. In choosing a gem the planet (gem-karaka) should bless one > with > > the > > > material / emotional goods. So dusthana, maraka, badhakesh, > neelam > > can > > > be good depending on a chart - as they can provide goods to the > > native. > > > Sri Jagannath Center tries to teach class of astrologers which > > will rise > > > above those generalizations like 'dusthana is bad, maraka is > bad, > > > badhakesh is bad' etc..thats kindergarden astrology. Badhakesh > > many > > > times is blessing to the native.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal@> > > > > > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze:> > > >> > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > >> > > > Namaste dear Rafal ji,> > > >> > > > Ohh... so that was the catch! Thank you very much.> > > >> > > > It is just that I find following list very frustrating > sometimes:> > > >> > > > Lord of 2nd & 7th, maraka-NO!> > > > Lord of 6, 8 & 12th, dustahn-NO!> > > > Lord of 3rd & 11th, trika-NO!> > > > Graha in dustahn-NO!> > > > Graha in trika-NO!> > > > Badhakesh-NO!> > > > Blue sapphire-NO!> > > > Green emerald-NO!> > > >> > > > (I also find it very frustrating because I am Kanya lagna with > > Sukra> > > > in trika bhava > > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Maja> > > >> > > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > >> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%> > 40. com>, > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > > > Dear Maja & SS , Namaskar> > > > >> > > > > Usually we perscribe gems for kona lords to increase the > rise,> > > > fortune> > > > > and wealth of native.> > > > >> > > > > Here Mangal is unafflicted and wellplaced so it will give > > effect> > > > of> > > > > Lagnesh and not sixth lord.> > > > >> > > > > Instead Shani will give effect of sixth lord giving problem > to> > > > pitta and> > > > > tridoshic problems of genital area/anus (right side) (82-91).> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> / email: > rafal@> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Maja Strbac pisze:> > > > > >> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal,> > > > > >> > > > > > I don't have to write too much, question is same (down > there > > in> > > > > > previous email from SS).> > > > > >> > > > > > Help us?> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Maja> > > > > >> > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > >> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%> > 40. com> > > > > <sohamsa%> > > > 40. com>,> > > > > > "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Please can you advise why Coral will be appropriate even > > though> > > > > > Mars> > > > > > > is 6th lord?> > > > > > > Is it because it lords 9th from AL?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Many thanx> > > > > > > SS> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com> <sohamsa%> > > > 40. com>,> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > > > > > > Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the gem will> > > > activate> > > > > > it.> > > > > > > > Parivartana means that Diamond will activate Bu in 3 > > from AL> > > > > > which> > > > > > > > afflicts career life and skills of native.> > > > > > > > 2. Neck influences thinking.> > > > > > > > 3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet > > forward in> > > > > > > kalachakra> > > > > > > > scheme.> > > > > > > > 4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak. > Badhakesh > > in> > > > > > lagna> > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga> > > > > > > > 5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in twelfth. I > > follow> > > > > > Sanjayji> > > > > > > who> > > > > > > > also looks at lord when bhava is empty.> > > > > > > > 6. We can do everything if we know what we are doing.> > > > Planets in> > > > > > > lagna,> > > > > > > > fifth and tenth eclipses the others.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> / email: rafal@> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > rajarshi nandy pisze:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I was trying to understand your advise to Mr Sunil. > It> > > > would> > > > > > be> > > > > > > great> > > > > > > > > if you could kindly clarify some points which I > could > > not> > > > > > > understand.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th lord, > due > > to> > > > yuti> > > > > > > causing> > > > > > > > > exchange of effects?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck? What > > is its> > > > > > > significance?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will give > > effects> > > > of> > > > > > > shani.> > > > > > > > > Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? But i> > > > thought> > > > > > it> > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please tell me > > the> > > > exact> > > > > > > rule.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa > badhaka. > > In> > > > that> > > > > > > case> > > > > > > > > shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to nagraj > > temple?> > > > Why> > > > > > is> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > Krishna idol donation neeeded?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > -Regards> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Rajarshi> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > /*> > > > > > > > > *"This above all: to thine own self be true!" - > Hamlet*> > > > > > > > > */> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ > >/* > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >> > > > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones> > > > > > (Sunil)> > > > > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > > > > > > > Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil , Namaskar> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > > > > > > >> Dear Sunil, Namaskar> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> 1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord > > which is> > > > > > > > >> negative, but will also improve the finances and> > > > > > Chandra..so> > > > > > > its> > > > > > > > >> not perfect. Coral has less side-effects here.> > > > > > > > >> 2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for > karma.> > > > > > > > >> 3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified > by > > AK.> > > > > > Irs> > > > > > > also> > > > > > > > >> in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL.> > > > > > > > >> 4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial > > setbacks> > > > > > > (rasi)> > > > > > > > >> and then improvement (navamsa).> > > > > > > > >> 5. Just please try to perform those remedies which > I > > have> > > > > > > given> > > > > > > > >> in the last mail.> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the > Sarpa> > > > > > should> > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > >> broken and the ninth lord should be lifted - > > Bhuvanesvari.> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be> > > > > > remedied> > > > > > > by> > > > > > > > >> gift of idol/picture related to Sri Krishna.> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> Regards,> > > > > > > > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > > > > > > >> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> Sunil Sharma pisze:> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Dear Rafal ji,> > > > > > > > >>> Namaskar> > > > > > > > >>> Thank you very much for your guidance. I like to > hear> > > > > > your> > > > > > > > >>> comments, not just about me, but even regarding > other> > > > > > > > >>> person/subject> > > > > > > > >>> Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still> > > > > > wearing> > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > >>> Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring > finger.> > > > > > Should> > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > >>> be removed too? Not that I see any visible > difference> > > > > > after> > > > > > > > >>> wearing it.> > > > > > > > >>> I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean > Coral > > in> > > > > > my> > > > > > > case)> > > > > > > > >>> in gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions > for> > > > > > this.> > > > > > > > >>> Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow> > > > > > Sapphire to> > > > > > > > >>> boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due > to> > > > > > > Rahu's 9th> > > > > > > > >>> aspect. Is it appropriate?> > > > > > > > >>> As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good > > period> > > > > > > since> > > > > > > > >>> the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic > > gains> > > > > > > now and> > > > > > > > >>> then but nothing substantial. I would love to > change > > the> > > > > > > > >>> situation, if I can, and solicit your advice in > this> > > > > > > regard. If> > > > > > > > >>> you will be kind enough to please give me a clear > > idea> > > > > > what> > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > >>> can do.> > > > > > > > >>> Regards> > > > > > > > >>> Sunil> > > > > > > > >>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@> > > > > > wp.pl>/*> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>> > > > > > > > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing> > > > > > Gemstones> > > > > > > (Sunil)> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > > > > > > >>> Dear Sunil , Namaskar> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with> > > > > > rahu in> > > > > > > > >>> Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna idol/picture to> > > > > > > > >>> temple/spiritual person.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> You can wear only Coral.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in> > > > > > > third/ninth> > > > > > > > >>> - only in dasa of this malefic - instead use right> > > > > > hand> > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > >>> fortune-gem.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana > and> > > > > > > > >>> worship Hanumanji sincerly!> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome> > > > > > as> > > > > > > its> > > > > > > > >>> the strength period (neechavastha) , after initial> > > > > > > struggle> > > > > > > > >>> there should be improvement due to exaltation in > d9.> > > > > > > This> > > > > > > > >>> period works for spirituality a lot due to > karakaamsa> > > > > > > > >>> position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra and> > > > > > being> > > > > > > GK> > > > > > > > >>> it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will > be> > > > > > > > >>> strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact> > > > > > that> > > > > > > Mo> > > > > > > > >>> in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H).> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Regards,> > > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > > > > > > >>> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com/ > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/>> > > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/ <http://www.rohinaa. com/>>> /> > > > > > > email:> > > > > > > > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Sunil Sharma pisze:> > > > > > > > >>>> Dear Maja,> > > > > > > > >>>> I fully appreciate your openness about various> > > > > > > observations> > > > > > > > >>>> made so far. At least you are better than me when> > > > > > you> > > > > > > say> > > > > > > > >>>> few charts are clear to you. To me all of them > look> > > > > > > confusing.> > > > > > > > >>>> My birth data is as follows:> > > > > > > > >>>> DOB: 21st September 1955> > > > > > > > >>>> TOB: 10:32 A.M.> > > > > > > > >>>> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)> > > > > > > > >>>> Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am> > > > > > not> > > > > > > in a> > > > > > > > >>>> hurry.> > > > > > > > >>>> Regards> > > > > > > > >>>> Sunil> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08,> > > > > > majastrbacastro /<majastrbacastro@> > > > > > > > >>>> > <majastrbaca stro@>/* wrote:> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> <majastrbaca stro@>> > > > > > > > >>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing> > > > > > Gemstones> > > > > > > (Sunil)> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > >>>> Dear Sunil,> > > > > > > > >>>> Namaste> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> My decision> > > > > > > > >>>> to wear that gift I received has nothing to do> > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > >>>> procedure of determining proper gemstone It> > > > > > is> > > > > > > just that I wear> > > > > > > > >>>> jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find> > > > > > it> > > > > > > very entertaining> > > > > > > > >>>> to learn about gemstones (not just for past two> > > > > > > days), for past> > > > > > > > >>>> month or two I had a few dialogues regarding> > > > > > same> > > > > > > kind of ring that> > > > > > > > >>>> you are wearing right now, and it turned out it> > > > > > is> > > > > > > not suitable for> > > > > > > > >>>> me when I was about to buy one. What happened> > > > > > > yesterday I consider> > > > > > > > >>>> it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for> > > > > > > few months. (If I> > > > > > > > >>>> suddenly disappear from list it will mean that> > > > > > it> > > > > > > was a wrong> > > > > > > > >>>> decision > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would> > > > > > > like to look at> > > > > > > > >>>> whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to> > > > > > > take it just as an> > > > > > > > >>>> opinion. As I have said on the beginning of> > > > > > this> > > > > > > thread I am not> > > > > > > > >>>> quite skilled with this issue, so have this> > > > > > > > >>>> in mind (Though it was> > > > > > > > >>>> not so difficult for me to say that ruby is> > > > > > proper> > > > > > > > >>>> gemstone for> > > > > > > > >>>> Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so> > > > > > > confusing as they> > > > > > > > >>>> often could be in various charts. When> > > > > > positions> > > > > > > in chart are> > > > > > > > >>>> complicated I choose to say "I don't know"> > > > > > rather> > > > > > > than to ruin> > > > > > > > >>>> someone's life.)> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Regards,> > > > > > > > >>>> Maja> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> , Sunil> > > > > > > Sharma> > > > > > > > >>>> <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> > Dear Maja,> > > > > > > > >>>> > I have been reading each and every message on> > > > > > > this thread and, at> > > > > > > > >>>> the outset, was surprised to read about> > > > > > Neeraj's> > > > > > > observations.> > > > > > > > >>>> However, things became quite clear later on> > > > > > > especially with your> > > > > > > > >>>> comments on antardasha.> > > > > > > > >>>> > Your very last sentence in your last mail> > > > > > (even> > > > > > > though chandra is> > > > > > > > >>>> not lording my trines) caught my attention.> > > > > > > Debilitated chandra (in> > > > > > > > >>>> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my> > > > > > > chart with exalted> > > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka> > > > > > > > >>>> Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu> > > > > > conjoining> > > > > > > moon in> > > > > > > > >>>> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th> > > > > > > > >>>> house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY> > > > > > > > >>>> or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So,> > > > > > the> > > > > > > net result is> > > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already> > > > > > > afflicted due to> > > > > > > > >>>> debilitation) is afflicted. All this is> > > > > > something> > > > > > > I have been told> > > > > > > > >>>> by various astrologers (not necessarily all at> > > > > > the> > > > > > > same time).> > > > > > > > >>>> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and> > > > > > Diamond> > > > > > > to me. I am still> > > > > > > > >>>> wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand> > > > > > > ring finger> > > > > > > > >>>> (presently going through Venus dasha), and> > > > > > Coral> > > > > > > in gold pendant in> > > > > > > > >>>> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier> > > > > > > but changed it to a> > > > > > > > >>>> pendant and wore it in the neck in a black> > > > > > string.> > > > > > > I have since> > > > > > > > >>>> removed it but I must say that whenever I wear> > > > > > > Pearl it quietens my> > > > > > > > >>>> temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any> > > > > > > improvement in my> > > > > > > > >>>> career or financial aspects.> > > > > > > > >>>> > Now, my real question to you is> > > > > > > > >>>> this. Moon being afflicted and> > > > > > > > >>>> left hand to be used (for the effect to be> > > > > > > reduced), I should> > > > > > > > >>>> have> > > > > > > > >>>> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You> > > > > > > may take few days to> > > > > > > > >>>> reply! I am not in a hurry.> > > > > > > > >>>> > Regards> > > > > > > > >>>> > Sunil> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro> > > > > > > <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > >>>> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...>> > > > > > > > >>>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing> > > > > > > Gemstones (Swami)> > > > > > > > >>>> > @ . com> > > > > > > > >>>> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> > Namaste dear Swami,> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra> > > > > > > being unfavorable> > > > > > > > >>>> Graha> > > > > > > > >>>> > in this chart, those mentioned were the only> > > > > > one> > > > > > > I could find (and> > > > > > > > >>>> > that was after quite some time spent in> > > > > > serious> > > > > > > thinking). It is> > > > > > > > >>>> my> > > > > > > > >>>> > mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra and> > > > > > > Maheshvara in Shula> > > > > > > > >>>> dasa> > > > > > > > >>>> > somewhere in my> > > > > > > > >>>> memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I> > > > > > did> > > > > > > > >>>> say> > > > > > > > >>>> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any> > > > > > > > >>>> significance to wear gemstone> > > > > > > > >>>> > for it (either to increase or to decrease).> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> > So far I was informed about just a few rules> > > > > > > regarding determining> > > > > > > > >>>> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I> > > > > > thought> > > > > > > that Ketu/Rahu> > > > > > > > >>>> could> > > > > > > > >>>> > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th> > > > > > > from AK or if Rahu> > > > > > > > >>>> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful> > > > > > > information about this> > > > > > > > >>>> > issue.> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue...> > > > > > I> > > > > > > received one> > > > > > > > >>>> > completely unexpected gift today afternoon:> > > > > > > silver ring with a> > > > > > > > >>>> pearl> > > > > > > > >>>> > and matching silver pectoral also decorated> > > > > > with> > > > > > > pearls. What is> > > > > > > > >>>> > this today...? I was never this much involved> > > > > > in> > > > > > > any thread so> > > > > > > > >>>> far.> > > > > > > > >>>> > WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear it, even> > > > > > > though Chandra is not> > > > > > > > >>>> > lording my trines.> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> Regards,> > > > > > > > >>>> > Maja> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> > --- In> > > > > > > > >>>> , "swami"> > > > > > <swami@>> > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om,> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Dear Maja,> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Your insights are great, incidently I was> > > > > > > struck at your> > > > > > > > >>>> mention> > > > > > > > >>>> > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I> > > > > > > don't think> > > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any> > > > > > > significance) .> > > > > > > > >>>> > > I could not understand How sukra is> > > > > > > maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu> > > > > > > > >>>> as> > > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar planet . that also is appears> > > > > > incorrect.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu> > > > > > so> > > > > > > count to 8 th> > > > > > > > >>>> would> > > > > > > > >>>> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads> > > > > > to> > > > > > > Leo.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > The sign lord is SUN.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN> > > > > > > becomes Brahma Planet.> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th> > > > > > and> > > > > > > 12 th from Sun> > > > > > > > >>>> the> > > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Eight> > > > > > > > >>>> lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > We apply parashar strength to determne> > > > > > > strenth.Ketu and jup are> > > > > > > > >>>> > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so> > > > > > as> > > > > > > per naisargic bal> > > > > > > > >>>> Jup> > > > > > > > >>>> > is Maheswar.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47> > > > > > sutra.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is> > > > > > > discussed.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih> > > > > > > knowledge .So Gem stone of> > > > > > > > >>>> > planet that is maheswar if put in left should> > > > > > > diminish> > > > > > > > >>>> knowledge.If> > > > > > > > >>>> > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of> > > > > > > vedic shahstra.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Perhaps native has tried many gems.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > By the way, influence of wearing planet> > > > > > > related to maheshwar is> > > > > > > > >>>> > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i> > > > > > could> > > > > > > access, so this> > > > > > > > >>>> > last suggestion may be taken just a logical> > > > > > > > >>>> aplication.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > with regards.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > OM TATSAT> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > > > > ---> > > > > > > -- ---------> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Swami_RCS> > > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- -> > > > > > ---> > > > > > > ----- --------> > > > > > > > >>>> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious> > > > > > effulgence> > > > > > > of that Divine> > > > > > > > >>>> Being> > > > > > > > >>>> > who has created the three worlds.May He> > > > > > Direct> > > > > > > our understanding. "> > > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- -> > > > > > ---> > > > > > > ----- --------- --------> > > > > > > > >>>> --> > > > > > > > >>>> > -> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > -> > > > > > > > >>>> > > majastrbacastro> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM> > > > > > > > >>>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing> > > > > > > Gemstones> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing> > > > > > > zircon on his left> > > > > > > > >>>> hand,> > > > > > > > >>>> > so> > > > > > > > >>>> > > that means he was weakening his lord of> > > > > > > > >>>> 10th bhava in 9th...> > > > > > > > >>>> And> > > > > > > > >>>> > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd> > > > > > > bhava (which is> > > > > > > > >>>> > considered> > > > > > > > >>>> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also> > > > > > > maheshvara.. . but I don't> > > > > > > > >>>> > think> > > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any> > > > > > > significance) .> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > I really dislike complicating simple> > > > > > things,> > > > > > > but this time I> > > > > > > > >>>> can> > > > > > > > >>>> > not> > > > > > > > >>>> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in> > > > > > > Dhanu, yet Mithuna is> > > > > > > > >>>> > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra> > > > > > and> > > > > > > Guru in it. That> > > > > > > > >>>> > means> > > > > > > > >>>> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his> > > > > > > Arudha Lagna. 12th> > > > > > > > >>>> lord> > > > > > > > >>>> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from> > > > > > Arudha> > > > > > > Lagna signifies> > > > > > > > >>>> > > expenses. He was weakening this one also.> > > > > > > These are just> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> thoughts...> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Regards,> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Maja> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > --- In> > > > > > > > >>>> , RKM> > > > > > > <rajeevmundra@ >> > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Dear Neeraj> > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in> > > > > > 9th> > > > > > > house which is a> > > > > > > > >>>> > Royal> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Yoga.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have> > > > > > > helped you grow in your> > > > > > > > >>>> > > career.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very> > > > > > > suitable.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter> > > > > > and> > > > > > > Moon. -ve.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve> > > > > > > (but ok if malefic> > > > > > > > >>>> > > debiliated in 12th> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > house)> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and> > > > > > just> > > > > > > out> > > > > > > > >>>> of 8th house.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and> > > > > > relatively> > > > > > > unafflicted is> > > > > > > > >>>> > working> > > > > > > > >>>> > > the> > > > > > > > >>>> best.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Suns stone would probably give you> > > > > > better> > > > > > > health and overall> > > > > > > > >>>> > luck.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > But venus will cause growth in career.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > --> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Ã'Ã...ò Ã'Ã"Ã0/00Ã'Ã"Ã?Ã'Ã"f> > > > > > > Ã'Ã"´Ã'Ã"Æ'Ã'Ã"²Ã'Ã"¬Ã'Ã"Ã?> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > RKM> > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda> > > > > > > krsna> > > > > > > > >>>> <yasodakrsna@ >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj,> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of> > > > > > SJC> > > > > > > have made error.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Particularly in my case was> > > > > > recommended> > > > > > > Coral by one,> > > > > > > > >>>> Ruby> > > > > > > > >>>> > by> > > > > > > > >>>> > > two.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by> > > > > > > > >>>> recommended quality> > > > > > > > >>>> > gemologist.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not> > > > > > by> > > > > > > internet> > > > > > > > >>>> questions> > > > > > > > >>>> > but> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> > by paid> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > services.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The good thing was the price of gold> > > > > > > soared and made good> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > money> > > > > > > > >>>> > > by selling> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > it.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath> > > > > > recommendation> > > > > > > of yellow> > > > > > > > >>>> sapphire> > > > > > > > >>>> > as> > > > > > > > >>>> > > it works.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their> > > > > > > Devata for the> > > > > > > > >>>> prediction> > > > > > > > >>>> > to> > > > > > > > >>>> > > be true.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Yasoda.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than> > > > > > > gemstone if sincere> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_> > > > > > 2000@>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > vedic astrology;> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru]> > > > > > > > >>>> Choosing Gemstones> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > It's been more than four years that I> > > > > > > studied> > > > > > > > >>>> different> > > > > > > > >>>> > books on> > > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstones> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > and got advise from different good> > > > > > > astrologers about the> > > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstone. But none> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > of them gave very good result.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > As of now, some of the following> > > > > > > theories are present for> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > choosing> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > gemstone.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord> > > > > > > > >>>> (recommended by many> > > > > > > > >>>> astrologers)> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1,> > > > > > 5,> > > > > > > and 9) - Anukool> > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > However, I recently found that one> > > > > > > gemstone worked very> > > > > > > > >>>> well> > > > > > > > >>>> > for> > > > > > > > >>>> > > me. After> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wearing that I got a very good> > > > > > results> > > > > > > in my career and> > > > > > > > >>>> also> > > > > > > > >>>> > my> > > > > > > > >>>> > > income> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > increased by more than 100% in> > > > > > approx. 4> > > > > > > months.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not> > > > > > recommended> > > > > > > to me by any> > > > > > > > >>>> > astrologer> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > (though I> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > consulted several ones in person) and> > > > > > in> > > > > > > no such book it> > > > > > > > >>>> was> > > > > > > > >>>> > > mentioned that> > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > I should choose this gemstone. I read> > > > > > > approximately 8-10> > > > > > > > >>>> > books> > > > > > > > >>>> > > on gem> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I> > > > > > > was not advised to> > > > > > > > >>>> > wear> > > > > > > > >>>> > > this gemstone.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby,> > > > > > > Yellow Sapphire and> > > > > > > > >>>> Red> > > > > > > > >>>> > Coral> > > > > > > > >>>> > > by> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > different astrologers. One even> > > > > > advised> > > > > > > blue sapphire,> > > > > > > > >>>> that> > > > > > > > >>>> > made> > > > > > > > >>>> > > matters> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > worse.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details> > > > > > and> > > > > > > then I will tell> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > gem> > > > > > > > >>>> > > stone that> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > worked for me.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon> > > > > > > (Substitute of> > > > > > > > >>>> Diamond).> > > > > > > > >>>> > I> > > > > > > > >>>> > > worn this in> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and> > > > > > things> > > > > > > started working> > > > > > > > >>>> > positive> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing> > > > > > > exceptional in> > > > > > > > >>>> my> > > > > > > > >>>> > > personal / work> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be> > > > > > > noted.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. It's not lord of> > > > > > > > >>>> trines.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not> > > > > > running.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Still, it gave me good results.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way> > > > > > > that may be tried> > > > > > > > >>>> if> > > > > > > > >>>> > some> > > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > to try. Please share your results, so> > > > > > > that we can know> > > > > > > > >>>> more> > > > > > > > >>>> > > about this.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in> > > > > > 1,5,9> > > > > > > house.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If> > > > > > > any of the planets> > > > > > > > >>>> > that> > > > > > > > >>>> > > were in 1,5,9> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > house moves to> > > > > > > > >>>> some other house, ignore that planet.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines> > > > > > > (1,5,9) in both natal> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > chart> > > > > > > > >>>> > > and> > > > > > > > >>>> bhava> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore> > > > > > rahu,> > > > > > > ketu)> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found> > > > > > till> > > > > > > step 3 is> > > > > > > > >>>> benefic> > > > > > > > >>>> > for> > > > > > > > >>>> > > your> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose> > > > > > the> > > > > > > main gemstone of> > > > > > > > >>>> > that> > > > > > > > >>>> > > planet and> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wear it in the right hand.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet> > > > > > that> > > > > > > was found in> > > > > > > > >>>> step> > > > > > > > >>>> 3> > > > > > > > >>>> > is> > > > > > > > >>>> > > malefic,> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > then choose the substitute gem for> > > > > > that> > > > > > > planet and wear> > > > > > > > >>>> it> > > > > > > > >>>> > in> > > > > > > > >>>> > > the left hand.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > The above was just a thought that came to my> > > > > > > mind and if> > > > > > > > >>>> > some> > > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants to> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > try it, they may do so for> > > > > > experiment.> > > > > > > Kindly share with> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > other> > > > > > > > >>>> > > members, if> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > this method works for you.> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>> > ~ om tat sat ~> > > > > > > > >>>> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the> > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram.> > > > > > > > >>>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari> > > > > > > Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> > > > > > > > >>>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar> > > > > > > the Great who said> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> that the human> > > > > > > > >>>> > stomach should not become a graveyard for> > > > > > > animals.> > > > > > > > >>>> > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do> > > > > > > one free chart> > > > > > > > >>>> reading> > > > > > > > >>>> > today> > > > > > > > >>>> Links> > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> ~ om tat sat ~> > > > > > > > >>>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the> > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram.> > > > > > > > >>>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari> > > > > > Mantra 'Hare> > > > > > > Rama Krishna'> > > > > > > > >>>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar> > > > > > the> > > > > > > Great who said that the human> > > > > > > > >>>> stomach should not become a graveyard for> > > > > > animals.> > > > > > > > >>>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do> > > > > > one> > > > > > > free chart reading> > > > > > > > >>>> today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Namaste dear Anna, What a pleasure knowing that hour and a half spent on my keyboard while I was typing that last reply to you were worth of it. You are here again within less then a week! What can I say now... Nothing to add. Everything I would say to you would be pretty much like copy/paste of your email. Still, there were two question marks in your email: " One will benefit more from a difficult period if he tried and failed than if he did nothing /except suffering/, because at the end of it there will be little reward to be reaped, Is it always clear from the chart ? " You know, those 33,333..% can often prove Jyotisha being wrong. It can be individual choice. " Do we help people see their options with less fear and more optimism? " I think I have a failure to always motivate people with " It is ok, you can make it, it is not so bad as you may think " when I recognize difficulties in chart, or even when I clearly see that a disaster is about to come. I always tend to believe that it won't be that bad and I always tend to spare my closest from additional panic. There is no need for that. I still remember how I felt when I got that prediction for another 4 years of very tuff times. It was very hard to hear that (and it is not that tuff as I expected, I was filling those " bags with sand " for nothing O.K. maybe I am making huge mistake for keeping quiet about truth, but... I just know how hard it is to hear that, that is all. But remedies above all if Jyotisha tends to help someone! Simple prediction is pointless. Your last paragraph... yes, dear, what a relief knowing that fact. It gives patients at hardest times. My warmest regards to you, Maya Hari Om Tat Sat sohamsa , 108ar <bona_mente wrote: > > Dear Maja, > What a pleasure reading your writings! Your understanding of my message is correct. I'd just add that 'spirituality' is 'hard sell', just because many connect it with suffering. I tend to avoid/limit the use of the term for that reason. We can always tell someone in a difficult period that he/she would be facing 'challenges'- my opservation is that people with 'difficult' charts understand that better than those 'spoild' by lack of difficulties. It seems also to be true, that 'high achievers' do have difficult chart-you may have seen sarpa yoga in some successful peoples' charts. Challenges give 'musles' and 'depth', indeed. Whether that is utilized in worldly ambitions or 'spirituality' is another issue. > One will benefit more from a difficult period if he tried and failed than if he did nothing /except suffering/, because at the end of it there will be little reward to be reaped, Is it always clear from the chart ? Do we help people see their options with less fear and more optimism? Having suffered ourselves, we are /therethically/ better able to help others, reduce their suffering and inspire hopefullness. If everything else fails the fact that 'nothing lasts for ever' is comfort in its own right. > > Besides, if I failed to accomplish what I wanted in this lifetime, not to worry, LOL, another life will come /hard sell, as well/ > Love, > Anna > > > > > --- On Sun, 7/20/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro wrote: > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Anna) II > sohamsa > Sunday, July 20, 2008, 9:34 AM Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste dear Anna, > > I forgot to add to first paragraph in my email: Yes, dear, we > understand each other perfectly. I get the impression like your hand > typed everything there was on my mind. We seem to share same point > of view on spirituality. Okay, painful while it lasts, but when you > take a look behind your back and draw a line, you can only say " I am > glad " . We both don't really like that painful situation while it > lasts, but I see that you are also observing those situations from a > different angle then you used to. (Which in fact makes them less > painful also) > > I don't know. It's royal highness " Suffering " . .. Yes, that is ok. > But I also think that leading a normal everyday life, taking care of > your close ones, avoiding adharma in interpersonal relations and > actions is at least on position number two, if not equal when you > take a look at world around you. > > You did a great job with your friend. I hope she is a little more > flexible than most of my friends (I wrote widely about them in my > previous email). > > (Ohhhh, this was supposed to be just a few sentences... Now I think > of so many things) > > I spent 17 years in AK MD, which is 2/3 of my whole life and... > Nothing special happened that hurt me until Bu/Gu MD/AD. But I was a > child (even though I remember events when I was just 2 years old) > > Well.. Okay, let's admit that when someone decides to live in > celibacy, dedicate whole life completely to spirituality and attain > moksha it is to be expected to " develop conditional reflex " for > favoring suffer in a way. > > I am just talking about everyday life and everyday people who don't > even take your or my approach (which is very similar as I can read. > Oh, you also like to use irony? . Well there it is everything in > my previous email. My frustration. .. and fear that I shall have to > keep it for myself everything I have learned so far and all that > what i am about to learn. That " softer and lighter approach to > suffer and life/spirituality matters " we share. > > When I write about spirituality maybe you can get impression that my > attitudes are similar to those written by a child who is yet about > to learn some things in life. I sure hope you understand the basic > point of what I am trying to say. Can you? (Oh, please, don't " throw > yourself on me " with some quotations > > Again, my very best wishes in your studying dear Anna. > > Regards, > Maja > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > sohamsa@ .com, 108ar <bona_mente@ ...> wrote: > > > > Hi dear Maja, > > I like your message and understand your kind reproaching me for > not writing more- I used to write a lot, dear Maja, now, it seems > it's is your turn, LOL. It's so refreshing to follow your way of > studying divine science of Jyotish and your /intellectual/ honesty, > (even when I don't agree with you) > > I was ironic too when posed the question about badhakesh- Pain, > suffering, loss..ah, so good for spirituality, sometimes I think I > wouldn't deprive myself of that benefit even though it came with a > big price tag/of suffering/. In every religion, /in art, psy.as > well/.suffering holds noble, irreplaceable place on the path of > attaining spirituali ty > > In one mail you mentioned your frustration of not being able > to " convert " clients /to spirituality, mantras/ in one hour- why > would you do that? Every person has his own way in this respect, > within the framework of religion one is born with. Who knows > benefits of suffering, prayers/mantras? / than /orthodox/ > Christianity! - many think that glorification of suffering is the > cause of it's 'martyr-like world-view, > > I tend to agree with that. > > > > We all know, one way or another, that 'sweetness' of suffering, > purification and maturity that comes as a reward- afterward! But we > naturally tend to seek pleasure, avoid pain... and that should be > appreciated in every reading- I believe that considerate, caring > person > > can present a reading as a helping tool to > achieving 'maturity' /which, sure enough comes OFTEN, ALSO as a > fruit of suffering/, if not 'spirituality' in its common use. > > > > Back to badhakesh- suffering is inevitable, but results are not- > if we leave that crucial experience with bitterness and anger, we > would most likely feel victimized. I guess we can help the person > gain perspective, at least, in a reading. Striving to achieve more > in one hour is wishful thinking- when the person is ready, road map > to spirituality will appear. > > > > My most painful period in life was that of AK /period of > badhakesh, in MKS, was 'easier' in terms of worldly success/ I've > recently told one friend undergoing similar period what I've learned > from mine- if you try to advance your 'mundane goals, you'd most > likely get more frustrated- if you 'listen' to what you experience > in silence, achieve a distance necessary for understanding your > karma, you may expand your understanding of life, including yourself. > > > > Ok, I've just shared my impressions. > > I read my mail once a week, sorry I didn't respond earlier. > > Good Luck in your studies, > > dear Maja. > > Love, > > Anna > > > > --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote: > > > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Anna) > > sohamsa@ .com > > Sunday, July 13, 2008, 3:48 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste dear Anna (hey there, another girl!? Welcome!!!), > > > > I hope that you are not having a plan to just sit there and read > > this list. Maybe you could write something yourself from time to > > time. It would be nice (and useful for learning). Though I think > > that you wrote something recently, maybe a month ago? Your name > and > > ID seems familiar to me. > > > > I wish if I could help you more about your question. We are both > in > > the same position I am afraid. I don't know... Right now I am just > > holding my fingers crossed and hoping that this explanation we are > > both waiting is not about " it is a blessing for spirituality " . My > > blood pressure is rising when I hear that. One of first few > > sentences about Jyotish that I have learned was similar to this. > It > > was regarding my current MD. This person told me " It is bad for > > health, career, finances... " I asked " until when? " and got > > reply " Until 2010 " (It was back in February of 2006. Can you guess > > how I felt to hear this?). Then he added " But it is great for > > spirituality " (And it was few months before I have even heard of > > SJC). I was like " Oh, great, now I feel much better... " (Of course > I > > was ironic). So, now you know what it means when Jyotisha predicts > a > > great period for spirituality. For 99% of world wide population it > > means that one should start digging hole in the ground and fill > bags > > with sand. (But it turned out I am ok in " My spirituality " . I > > started to like it > > > > I am waiting with you... > > > > P.S. I appreciate people who appreciate honest and open minded > > people. > > > > Regards, > > Maja > > > > sohamsa@ .com, 108ar <bona_mente@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Raphal and Maja, > > > I am dying to learn why/when 'Badhakesh can be blessing for an > > individual, as Raphael wrote. > > > btw. I read all your posts with interest, I appreciate that > > you both are honest and open-minded astrol' s > > > best wishes, > > > Anna > > > > > > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones > (Rafal > > Ji) > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal Ji, > > > > > > Okay... let me finally introduce myself: My name is Maja and I > > have > > > no idea yet what is the art design for front page of " Vedic > > > remedies " by Sanjay Rath, but I am about to find it out till the > > end > > > of this month when friend of mine is supposed to come back from > > > India with my copy of this book. Nice to meet you too. > > > > > > 1. You see, that list of " NO " points are what I have learned so > > far > > > about gemstones, so when you take it in consideration, the only > > > conclusion I can make for now is that there is no suitable > > gemstone > > > I can prescribe for any Kanya lagna (including myself, and > (still > > > only with taking that list in consideration) especially because > of > > > Sk in trika bhava). That is the reason why I wrote that I find > > that > > > list very frustrating. Of course, another reason is that I > assumed > > > that there must be deeper story behind those points I wrote, > > except > > > I haven't got that far yet (I don't have a plan to stop myself > > here > > > with gemstones, don't worry). I'll trust you on that advice > about > > > diamond exactly because I understand that this list is not " the > > edge > > > of the world " about criteria for choosing. But it is nice to > find > > > out at the same time that I can advice diamond to a friend of > mine > > > who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is in 9th bhava. If I am o.k. > she > > > is going to bloom with diamond. As I understand in her case > there > > is > > > no single reason to avoid it. > > > > > > 2. Well I am at the kinder garden level with gemstones. I just > > play > > > with that a little. (But mantras are still… There I am a new > born > > > baby) Right now I am doing everything possible from my position > to > > > get closer to elementary school. (Don't take personally > following > > > lines, please. It is nothing pointed to you.) " Badhakesh many > > times > > > is blessing to the native " . From the perspective of kinder > garden > > I > > > can give no knowledgably comment on this sentence. By the time I > > > reach that deeper perspective I just hope that I shall not meet > > with > > > explanation that sounds like " If you focus real hard you can > prove > > > hypothesis that elephant can hang over from a cliff with his > tail > > > holding to a daisy " , because I ran off from Western Astrology > > > exactly because of such things. I would take it real hard to > > > disappoint in Jyotish. That explanation better be very good and > > > reasonable. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Maja > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz > <starsuponme@ ...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > > > > > > > 1. Why is it frustrating for Kanya with Shukra in trika? Do > you > > > mean it > > > > takes away the viveka to choose a gem as general or its > > > problematic to > > > > choose a gem for you? For your chart its diamond..easy. > > > > > > > > 2. In choosing a gem the planet (gem-karaka) should bless one > > with > > > the > > > > material / emotional goods. So dusthana, maraka, badhakesh, > > neelam > > > can > > > > be good depending on a chart - as they can provide goods to > the > > > native. > > > > Sri Jagannath Center tries to teach class of astrologers which > > > will rise > > > > above those generalizations like 'dusthana is bad, maraka is > > bad, > > > > badhakesh is bad' etc..thats kindergarden astrology. Badhakesh > > > many > > > > times is blessing to the native. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > > > Ohh... so that was the catch! Thank you very much. > > > > > > > > > > It is just that I find following list very frustrating > > sometimes: > > > > > > > > > > Lord of 2nd & 7th, maraka-NO! > > > > > Lord of 6, 8 & 12th, dustahn-NO! > > > > > Lord of 3rd & 11th, trika-NO! > > > > > Graha in dustahn-NO! > > > > > Graha in trika-NO! > > > > > Badhakesh-NO! > > > > > Blue sapphire-NO! > > > > > Green emerald-NO! > > > > > > > > > > (I also find it very frustrating because I am Kanya lagna > with > > > Sukra > > > > > in trika bhava > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Maja > > > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > > > 40. com>, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > Dear Maja & SS , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > Usually we perscribe gems for kona lords to increase the > > rise, > > > > > fortune > > > > > > and wealth of native. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here Mangal is unafflicted and wellplaced so it will give > > > effect > > > > > of > > > > > > Lagnesh and not sixth lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > Instead Shani will give effect of sixth lord giving > problem > > to > > > > > pitta and > > > > > > tridoshic problems of genital area/anus (right side) (82- > 91). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> / email: > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't have to write too much, question is same (down > > there > > > in > > > > > > > previous email from SS). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Help us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Maja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > > > 40. com> > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > > " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please can you advise why Coral will be appropriate > even > > > though > > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > > is 6th lord? > > > > > > > > Is it because it lords 9th from AL? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanx > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com> <sohamsa% > > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the gem > will > > > > > activate > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > Parivartana means that Diamond will activate Bu in 3 > > > from AL > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > afflicts career life and skills of native. > > > > > > > > > 2. Neck influences thinking. > > > > > > > > > 3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet > > > forward in > > > > > > > > kalachakra > > > > > > > > > scheme. > > > > > > > > > 4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak. > > Badhakesh > > > in > > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga > > > > > > > > > 5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in twelfth. I > > > follow > > > > > > > Sanjayji > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > also looks at lord when bhava is empty. > > > > > > > > > 6. We can do everything if we know what we are doing. > > > > > Planets in > > > > > > > > lagna, > > > > > > > > > fifth and tenth eclipses the others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > > > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rajarshi nandy pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was trying to understand your advise to Mr > Sunil. > > It > > > > > would > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > great > > > > > > > > > > if you could kindly clarify some points which I > > could > > > not > > > > > > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th lord, > > due > > > to > > > > > yuti > > > > > > > > causing > > > > > > > > > > exchange of effects? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck? > What > > > is its > > > > > > > > significance? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will give > > > effects > > > > > of > > > > > > > > shani. > > > > > > > > > > Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? But > i > > > > > thought > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please tell > me > > > the > > > > > exact > > > > > > > > rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa > > badhaka. > > > In > > > > > that > > > > > > > > case > > > > > > > > > > shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to nagraj > > > temple? > > > > > Why > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Krishna idol donation neeeded? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajarshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /* > > > > > > > > > > * " This above all: to thine own self be true! " - > > Hamlet* > > > > > > > > > > */ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ > > >/* > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > > > > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > Gemstones > > > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > > > >> Dear Sunil, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> 1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord > > > which is > > > > > > > > > >> negative, but will also improve the finances and > > > > > > > Chandra..so > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > >> not perfect. Coral has less side-effects here. > > > > > > > > > >> 2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for > > karma. > > > > > > > > > >> 3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified > > by > > > AK. > > > > > > > Irs > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > >> in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL. > > > > > > > > > >> 4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial > > > setbacks > > > > > > > > (rasi) > > > > > > > > > >> and then improvement (navamsa). > > > > > > > > > >> 5. Just please try to perform those remedies > which > > I > > > have > > > > > > > > given > > > > > > > > > >> in the last mail. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the > > Sarpa > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > >> broken and the ninth lord should be lifted - > > > Bhuvanesvari. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should > be > > > > > > > remedied > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > >> gift of idol/picture related to Sri Krishna. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Regards, > > > > > > > > > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > > > >> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > com > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>> Dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > > >>> Namaskar > > > > > > > > > >>> Thank you very much for your guidance. I like to > > hear > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > >>> comments, not just about me, but even regarding > > other > > > > > > > > > >>> person/subject > > > > > > > > > >>> Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, > still > > > > > > > wearing > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > >>> Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring > > finger. > > > > > > > Should > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > >>> be removed too? Not that I see any visible > > difference > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > >>> wearing it. > > > > > > > > > >>> I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean > > Coral > > > in > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > case) > > > > > > > > > >>> in gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions > > for > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > >>> Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow > > > > > > > Sapphire to > > > > > > > > > >>> boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted > due > > to > > > > > > > > Rahu's 9th > > > > > > > > > >>> aspect. Is it appropriate? > > > > > > > > > >>> As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen > good > > > period > > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > >>> the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some > sporadic > > > gains > > > > > > > > now and > > > > > > > > > >>> then but nothing substantial. I would love to > > change > > > the > > > > > > > > > >>> situation, if I can, and solicit your advice in > > this > > > > > > > > regard. If > > > > > > > > > >>> you will be kind enough to please give me a > clear > > > idea > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > >>> can do. > > > > > > > > > >>> Regards > > > > > > > > > >>> Sunil > > > > > > > > > >>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ > > > > > > > wp.pl>/* > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > > > > > > > > > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > > > Gemstones > > > > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > > > >>> Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with > > > > > > > rahu in > > > > > > > > > >>> Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna idol/picture to > > > > > > > > > >>> temple/spiritual person. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> You can wear only Coral. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in > > > > > > > > third/ninth > > > > > > > > > >>> - only in dasa of this malefic - instead use > right > > > > > > > hand > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > >>> fortune-gem. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari > Sadhana > > and > > > > > > > > > >>> worship Hanumanji sincerly! > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be > troublesome > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > >>> the strength period (neechavastha) , after > initial > > > > > > > > struggle > > > > > > > > > >>> there should be improvement due to exaltation in > > d9. > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > >>> period works for spirituality a lot due to > > karakaamsa > > > > > > > > > >>> position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra and > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > GK > > > > > > > > > >>> it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava > will > > be > > > > > > > > > >>> strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and > fact > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > Mo > > > > > > > > > >>> in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H). > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> Regards, > > > > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > > > >>> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. > com/ > > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/> > > > > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/ <http://www.rohinaa. com/>>> / > > > > > > > > email: > > > > > > > > > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > > > > > > >>>> Dear Maja, > > > > > > > > > >>>> I fully appreciate your openness about various > > > > > > > > observations > > > > > > > > > >>>> made so far. At least you are better than me > when > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > say > > > > > > > > > >>>> few charts are clear to you. To me all of them > > look > > > > > > > > confusing. > > > > > > > > > >>>> My birth data is as follows: > > > > > > > > > >>>> DOB: 21st September 1955 > > > > > > > > > >>>> TOB: 10:32 A.M. > > > > > > > > > >>>> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27) > > > > > > > > > >>>> Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I > am > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > in a > > > > > > > > > >>>> hurry. > > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards > > > > > > > > > >>>> Sunil > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, > > > > > > > majastrbacastro /<majastrbacastro@ > > > > > > > > > >>>> > <majastrbaca stro@>/* wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> <majastrbaca stro@> > > > > > > > > > >>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > > > Gemstones > > > > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > >>>> Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > > > >>>> Namaste > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> My decision > > > > > > > > > >>>> to wear that gift I received has nothing to do > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > >>>> procedure of determining proper gemstone It > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > just that I wear > > > > > > > > > >>>> jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > very entertaining > > > > > > > > > >>>> to learn about gemstones (not just for past two > > > > > > > > days), for past > > > > > > > > > >>>> month or two I had a few dialogues regarding > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > kind of ring that > > > > > > > > > >>>> you are wearing right now, and it turned out it > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > not suitable for > > > > > > > > > >>>> me when I was about to buy one. What happened > > > > > > > > yesterday I consider > > > > > > > > > >>>> it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for > > > > > > > > few months. (If I > > > > > > > > > >>>> suddenly disappear from list it will mean that > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > was a wrong > > > > > > > > > >>>> decision > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would > > > > > > > > like to look at > > > > > > > > > >>>> whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to > > > > > > > > take it just as an > > > > > > > > > >>>> opinion. As I have said on the beginning of > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > thread I am not > > > > > > > > > >>>> quite skilled with this issue, so have this > > > > > > > > > >>>> in mind (Though it was > > > > > > > > > >>>> not so difficult for me to say that ruby is > > > > > > > proper > > > > > > > > > >>>> gemstone for > > > > > > > > > >>>> Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so > > > > > > > > confusing as they > > > > > > > > > >>>> often could be in various charts. When > > > > > > > positions > > > > > > > > in chart are > > > > > > > > > >>>> complicated I choose to say " I don't know " > > > > > > > rather > > > > > > > > than to ruin > > > > > > > > > >>>> someone's life.) > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > > > > > > >>>> Maja > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> , Sunil > > > > > > > > Sharma > > > > > > > > > >>>> <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Dear Maja, > > > > > > > > > >>>> > I have been reading each and every message on > > > > > > > > this thread and, at > > > > > > > > > >>>> the outset, was surprised to read about > > > > > > > Neeraj's > > > > > > > > observations. > > > > > > > > > >>>> However, things became quite clear later on > > > > > > > > especially with your > > > > > > > > > >>>> comments on antardasha. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Your very last sentence in your last mail > > > > > > > (even > > > > > > > > though chandra is > > > > > > > > > >>>> not lording my trines) caught my attention. > > > > > > > > Debilitated chandra (in > > > > > > > > > >>>> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my > > > > > > > > chart with exalted > > > > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka > > > > > > > > > >>>> Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu > > > > > > > conjoining > > > > > > > > moon in > > > > > > > > > >>>> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th > > > > > > > > > >>>> house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY > > > > > > > > > >>>> or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > net result is > > > > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already > > > > > > > > afflicted due to > > > > > > > > > >>>> debilitation) is afflicted. All this is > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > I have been told > > > > > > > > > >>>> by various astrologers (not necessarily all at > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > same time). > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and > > > > > > > Diamond > > > > > > > > to me. I am still > > > > > > > > > >>>> wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand > > > > > > > > ring finger > > > > > > > > > >>>> (presently going through Venus dasha), and > > > > > > > Coral > > > > > > > > in gold pendant in > > > > > > > > > >>>> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier > > > > > > > > but changed it to a > > > > > > > > > >>>> pendant and wore it in the neck in a black > > > > > > > string. > > > > > > > > I have since > > > > > > > > > >>>> removed it but I must say that whenever I wear > > > > > > > > Pearl it quietens my > > > > > > > > > >>>> temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any > > > > > > > > improvement in my > > > > > > > > > >>>> career or financial aspects. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Now, my real question to you is > > > > > > > > > >>>> this. Moon being afflicted and > > > > > > > > > >>>> left hand to be used (for the effect to be > > > > > > > > reduced), I should > > > > > > > > > >>>> have > > > > > > > > > >>>> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You > > > > > > > > may take few days to > > > > > > > > > >>>> reply! I am not in a hurry. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Regards > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Sunil > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro > > > > > > > > <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > > > > Gemstones (Swami) > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Namaste dear Swami, > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra > > > > > > > > being unfavorable > > > > > > > > > >>>> Graha > > > > > > > > > >>>> > in this chart, those mentioned were the only > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > I could find (and > > > > > > > > > >>>> > that was after quite some time spent in > > > > > > > serious > > > > > > > > thinking). It is > > > > > > > > > >>>> my > > > > > > > > > >>>> > mistake to " equalize " effects of Rudra and > > > > > > > > Maheshvara in Shula > > > > > > > > > >>>> dasa > > > > > > > > > >>>> > somewhere in my > > > > > > > > > >>>> memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I > > > > > > > did > > > > > > > > > >>>> say > > > > > > > > > >>>> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any > > > > > > > > > >>>> significance to wear gemstone > > > > > > > > > >>>> > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > So far I was informed about just a few rules > > > > > > > > regarding determining > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I > > > > > > > thought > > > > > > > > that Ketu/Rahu > > > > > > > > > >>>> could > > > > > > > > > >>>> > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th > > > > > > > > from AK or if Rahu > > > > > > > > > >>>> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful > > > > > > > > information about this > > > > > > > > > >>>> > issue. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > received one > > > > > > > > > >>>> > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: > > > > > > > > silver ring with a > > > > > > > > > >>>> pearl > > > > > > > > > >>>> > and matching silver pectoral also decorated > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > pearls. What is > > > > > > > > > >>>> > this today...? I was never this much involved > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > any thread so > > > > > > > > > >>>> far. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear it, even > > > > > > > > though Chandra is not > > > > > > > > > >>>> > lording my trines. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Maja > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > --- In > > > > > > > > > >>>> , " swami " > > > > > > > <swami@> > > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om, > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Dear Maja, > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Your insights are great, incidently I was > > > > > > > > struck at your > > > > > > > > > >>>> mention > > > > > > > > > >>>> > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I > > > > > > > > don't think > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > > > > > > significance) . > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I could not understand How sukra is > > > > > > > > maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu > > > > > > > > > >>>> as > > > > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar planet . that also is appears > > > > > > > incorrect. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > count to 8 th > > > > > > > > > >>>> would > > > > > > > > > >>>> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > Leo. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > The sign lord is SUN. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN > > > > > > > > becomes Brahma Planet. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > 12 th from Sun > > > > > > > > > >>>> the > > > > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Eight > > > > > > > > > >>>> lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > We apply parashar strength to determne > > > > > > > > strenth.Ketu and jup are > > > > > > > > > >>>> > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > per naisargic bal > > > > > > > > > >>>> Jup > > > > > > > > > >>>> > is Maheswar. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 > > > > > > > sutra. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is > > > > > > > > discussed. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih > > > > > > > > knowledge .So Gem stone of > > > > > > > > > >>>> > planet that is maheswar if put in left should > > > > > > > > diminish > > > > > > > > > >>>> knowledge.If > > > > > > > > > >>>> > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of > > > > > > > > vedic shahstra. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Perhaps native has tried many gems. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > By the way, influence of wearing planet > > > > > > > > related to maheshwar is > > > > > > > > > >>>> > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > access, so this > > > > > > > > > >>>> > last suggestion may be taken just a logical > > > > > > > > > >>>> aplication. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > with regards. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > OM TATSAT > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --- - > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > -- --------- > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Swami_RCS > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > ----- -------- > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious > > > > > > > effulgence > > > > > > > > of that Divine > > > > > > > > > >>>> Being > > > > > > > > > >>>> > who has created the three worlds.May He > > > > > > > Direct > > > > > > > > our understanding. " > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > ----- --------- -------- > > > > > > > > > >>>> -- > > > > > > > > > >>>> > - > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > - > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > majastrbacastro > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > > > > Gemstones > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?), > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing > > > > > > > > zircon on his left > > > > > > > > > >>>> hand, > > > > > > > > > >>>> > so > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that means he was weakening his lord of > > > > > > > > > >>>> 10th bhava in 9th... > > > > > > > > > >>>> And > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd > > > > > > > > bhava (which is > > > > > > > > > >>>> > considered > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also > > > > > > > > maheshvara.. . but I don't > > > > > > > > > >>>> > think > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > > > > > > significance) . > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I really dislike complicating simple > > > > > > > things, > > > > > > > > but this time I > > > > > > > > > >>>> can > > > > > > > > > >>>> > not > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in > > > > > > > > Dhanu, yet Mithuna is > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > Guru in it. That > > > > > > > > > >>>> > means > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his > > > > > > > > Arudha Lagna. 12th > > > > > > > > > >>>> lord > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from > > > > > > > Arudha > > > > > > > > Lagna signifies > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. > > > > > > > > These are just > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> thoughts... > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Maja > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > --- In > > > > > > > > > >>>> , RKM > > > > > > > > <rajeevmundra@ > > > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Dear Neeraj > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in > > > > > > > 9th > > > > > > > > house which is a > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Royal > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Yoga. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have > > > > > > > > helped you grow in your > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > career. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very > > > > > > > > suitable. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > Moon. -ve. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve > > > > > > > > (but ok if malefic > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > debiliated in 12th > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > house) > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > >>>> of 8th house. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and > > > > > > > relatively > > > > > > > > unafflicted is > > > > > > > > > >>>> > working > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > the > > > > > > > > > >>>> best. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Suns stone would probably give you > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > health and overall > > > > > > > > > >>>> > luck. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > But venus will cause growth in career. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > -- > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Ã'Ã...ò Ã'à " Ã0/00Ã'à " Ã?Ã'à " f > > > > > > > > Ã'à " ´Ã'à " Æ'Ã'à " ²Ã'à " ¬Ã'à " Ã? > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > RKM > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda > > > > > > > > krsna > > > > > > > > > >>>> <yasodakrsna@ > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj, > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of > > > > > > > SJC > > > > > > > > have made error. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Particularly in my case was > > > > > > > recommended > > > > > > > > Coral by one, > > > > > > > > > >>>> Ruby > > > > > > > > > >>>> > by > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > two. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by > > > > > > > > > >>>> recommended quality > > > > > > > > > >>>> > gemologist. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > internet > > > > > > > > > >>>> questions > > > > > > > > > >>>> > but > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > by paid > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > services. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The good thing was the price of gold > > > > > > > > soared and made good > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > money > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > by selling > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath > > > > > > > recommendation > > > > > > > > of yellow > > > > > > > > > >>>> sapphire > > > > > > > > > >>>> > as > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > it works. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their > > > > > > > > Devata for the > > > > > > > > > >>>> prediction > > > > > > > > > >>>> > to > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > be true. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Yasoda. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than > > > > > > > > gemstone if sincere > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ > > > > > > > 2000@> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > vedic astrology; > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > >>>> Choosing Gemstones > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > It's been more than four years that I > > > > > > > > studied > > > > > > > > > >>>> different > > > > > > > > > >>>> > books on > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstones > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > and got advise from different good > > > > > > > > astrologers about the > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstone. But none > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > of them gave very good result. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > As of now, some of the following > > > > > > > > theories are present for > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > choosing > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > gemstone. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord > > > > > > > > > >>>> (recommended by many > > > > > > > > > >>>> astrologers) > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, > > > > > > > 5, > > > > > > > > and 9) - Anukool > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool) > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > However, I recently found that one > > > > > > > > gemstone worked very > > > > > > > > > >>>> well > > > > > > > > > >>>> > for > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > me. After > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wearing that I got a very good > > > > > > > results > > > > > > > > in my career and > > > > > > > > > >>>> also > > > > > > > > > >>>> > my > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > income > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > increased by more than 100% in > > > > > > > approx. 4 > > > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not > > > > > > > recommended > > > > > > > > to me by any > > > > > > > > > >>>> > astrologer > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > (though I > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > consulted several ones in person) and > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > no such book it > > > > > > > > > >>>> was > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > mentioned that > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > I should choose this gemstone. I read > > > > > > > > approximately 8-10 > > > > > > > > > >>>> > books > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > on gem > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I > > > > > > > > was not advised to > > > > > > > > > >>>> > wear > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > this gemstone. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, > > > > > > > > Yellow Sapphire and > > > > > > > > > >>>> Red > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Coral > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > by > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > different astrologers. One even > > > > > > > advised > > > > > > > > blue sapphire, > > > > > > > > > >>>> that > > > > > > > > > >>>> > made > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > matters > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > worse. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > then I will tell > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > gem > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > stone that > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > worked for me. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978 > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA) > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon > > > > > > > > (Substitute of > > > > > > > > > >>>> Diamond). > > > > > > > > > >>>> > I > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > worn this in > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and > > > > > > > things > > > > > > > > started working > > > > > > > > > >>>> > positive > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing > > > > > > > > exceptional in > > > > > > > > > >>>> my > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > personal / work > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be > > > > > > > > noted. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. It's not lord of > > > > > > > > > >>>> trines. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not > > > > > > > running. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Still, it gave me good results. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way > > > > > > > > that may be tried > > > > > > > > > >>>> if > > > > > > > > > >>>> > some > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > to try. Please share your results, so > > > > > > > > that we can know > > > > > > > > > >>>> more > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > about this. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in > > > > > > > 1,5,9 > > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If > > > > > > > > any of the planets > > > > > > > > > >>>> > that > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > were in 1,5,9 > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > house moves to > > > > > > > > > >>>> some other house, ignore that planet. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines > > > > > > > > (1,5,9) in both natal > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > chart > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > and > > > > > > > > > >>>> bhava > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore > > > > > > > rahu, > > > > > > > > ketu) > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found > > > > > > > till > > > > > > > > step 3 is > > > > > > > > > >>>> benefic > > > > > > > > > >>>> > for > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > your > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > main gemstone of > > > > > > > > > >>>> > that > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > planet and > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wear it in the right hand. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > was found in > > > > > > > > > >>>> step > > > > > > > > > >>>> 3 > > > > > > > > > >>>> > is > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > malefic, > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > then choose the substitute gem for > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > planet and wear > > > > > > > > > >>>> it > > > > > > > > > >>>> > in > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > the left hand. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > The above was just a thought that came to my > > > > > > > > mind and if > > > > > > > > > >>>> > some > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants to > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > try it, they may do so for > > > > > > > experiment. > > > > > > > > Kindly share with > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > other > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > members, if > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > this method works for you. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > > > > > > > Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > > > > > > > >>>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > > > > > > > the Great who said > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> that the human > > > > > > > > > >>>> > stomach should not become a graveyard for > > > > > > > > animals. > > > > > > > > > >>>> > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > > > > > > > one free chart > > > > > > > > > >>>> reading > > > > > > > > > >>>> > today > > > > > > > > > >>>> Links > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > > > > > > >>>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > > > > > > >>>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > > > > > > Mantra 'Hare > > > > > > > > Rama Krishna' > > > > > > > > > >>>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Great who said that the human > > > > > > > > > >>>> stomach should not become a graveyard for > > > > > > > animals. > > > > > > > > > >>>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > free chart reading > > > > > > > > > >>>> today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Dear Maja, You won- your honest interest and ability to dig deeper are heart-warming. You se how good motivatior you are! Just by being who you are- it's a great asset, my dear, hope you'll never forget that. Short reply to the rest of your mail: I believe that good astrologer always helps- predictions can prove to be wrong in practical terms, but perspective offered by ethical and well educated astrologer /or psychotherapist/ are too valuable to be ignored. Not to be discouraged by mistakes, being misunderstood, that's simply part of the package. Life is not easy, neither should it be /remember 'the road less travelled/. One jyotisha said /advice for handling difficult periods/:' See the job, do the job, avoid misery'. It's like 33,33%you mentioned. Love, Anna --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro wrote: Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Anna) IIsohamsa Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 9:03 AM Om Gurave NamahNamaste dear Anna,What a pleasure knowing that hour and a half spent on my keyboard while I was typing that last reply to you were worth of it. You are here again within less then a week! :)What can I say now... Nothing to add. Everything I would say to you would be pretty much like copy/paste of your email.Still, there were two question marks in your email:"One will benefit more from a difficult period if he tried and failed than if he did nothing /except suffering/, because at the end of it there will be little reward to be reaped, Is it always clear from the chart ?" You know, those 33,333..% can often prove Jyotisha being wrong. It can be individual choice."Do we help people see their options with less fear and more optimism?"I think I have a failure to always motivate people with "It is ok, you can make it, it is not so bad as you may think" when I recognize difficulties in chart, or even when I clearly see that a disaster is about to come. I always tend to believe that it won't be that bad and I always tend to spare my closest from additional panic. There is no need for that. I still remember how I felt when I got that prediction for another 4 years of very tuff times. It was very hard to hear that (and it is not that tuff as I expected, I was filling those "bags with sand" for nothing O.K. maybe I am making huge mistake for keeping quiet about truth, but... I just know how hard it is to hear that, that is all.But remedies above all if Jyotisha tends to help someone! Simple prediction is pointless.Your last paragraph... yes, dear, what a relief knowing that fact. It gives patients at hardest times.My warmest regards to you,MayaHari Om Tat Satsohamsa@ .com, 108ar <bona_mente@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Maja,> What a pleasure reading your writings! Your understanding of my message is correct. I'd just add that 'spirituality' is 'hard sell', just because many connect it with suffering. I tend to avoid/limit the use of the term for that reason. We can always tell someone in a difficult period that he/she would be facing 'challenges' - my opservation is that people with 'difficult' charts understand that better than those 'spoild' by lack of difficulties. It seems also to be true, that 'high achievers' do have difficult chart-you may have seen sarpa yoga in some successful peoples' charts. Challenges give 'musles' and 'depth', indeed. Whether that is utilized in worldly ambitions or 'spirituality' is another issue. > One will benefit more from a difficult period if he tried and failed than if he did nothing /except suffering/, because at the end of it there will be little reward to be reaped, Is it always clear from the chart ? Do we help people see their options with less fear and more optimism? Having suffered ourselves, we are /therethically/ better able to help others, reduce their suffering and inspire hopefullness. If everything else fails the fact that 'nothing lasts for ever' is comfort in its own right.> > Besides, if I failed to accomplish what I wanted in this lifetime, not to worry, LOL, another life will come /hard sell, as well/> Love,> Anna> > > > > --- On Sun, 7/20/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:> > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Anna) II> sohamsa@ .com> Sunday, July 20, 2008, 9:34 AM> > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > Namaste dear Anna,> > I forgot to add to first paragraph in my email: Yes, dear, we > understand each other perfectly. I get the impression like your hand > typed everything there was on my mind. We seem to share same point > of view on spirituality. Okay, painful while it lasts, but when you > take a look behind your back and draw a line, you can only say "I am > glad". We both don't really like that painful situation while it > lasts, but I see that you are also observing those situations from a > different angle then you used to. (Which in fact makes them less > painful also)> > I don't know. It's royal highness "Suffering". .. Yes, that is ok. > But I also think that leading a normal everyday life, taking care of > your close ones, avoiding adharma in interpersonal relations and > actions is at least on position number two, if not equal when you > take a look at world around you. > > You did a great job with your friend. I hope she is a little more > flexible than most of my friends (I wrote widely about them in my > previous email).> > (Ohhhh, this was supposed to be just a few sentences... Now I think > of so many things)> > I spent 17 years in AK MD, which is 2/3 of my whole life and... > Nothing special happened that hurt me until Bu/Gu MD/AD. But I was a > child (even though I remember events when I was just 2 years old)> > Well.. Okay, let's admit that when someone decides to live in > celibacy, dedicate whole life completely to spirituality and attain > moksha it is to be expected to "develop conditional reflex" for > favoring suffer in a way.> > I am just talking about everyday life and everyday people who don't > even take your or my approach (which is very similar as I can read. > Oh, you also like to use irony? . Well there it is everything in > my previous email. My frustration. .. and fear that I shall have to > keep it for myself everything I have learned so far and all that > what i am about to learn. That "softer and lighter approach to > suffer and life/spirituality matters" we share.> > When I write about spirituality maybe you can get impression that my > attitudes are similar to those written by a child who is yet about > to learn some things in life. I sure hope you understand the basic > point of what I am trying to say. Can you? (Oh, please, don't "throw > yourself on me" with some quotations > > Again, my very best wishes in your studying dear Anna.> > Regards,> Maja> > Hari Om Tat Sat> > sohamsa@ .com, 108ar <bona_mente@ ...> wrote:> >> > Hi dear Maja,> > I like your message and understand your kind reproaching me for > not writing more- I used to write a lot, dear Maja, now, it seems > it's is your turn, LOL. It's so refreshing to follow your way of > studying divine science of Jyotish and your /intellectual/ honesty,> (even when I don't agree with you)> > I was ironic too when posed the question about badhakesh- Pain, > suffering, loss..ah, so good for spirituality, sometimes I think I > wouldn't deprive myself of that benefit even though it came with a > big price tag/of suffering/. In every religion, /in art, psy.as > well/.suffering holds noble, irreplaceable place on the path of > attaining spirituali ty > > In one mail you mentioned your frustration of not being able > to "convert" clients /to spirituality, mantras/ in one hour- why > would you do that? Every person has his own way in this respect, > within the framework of religion one is born with. Who knows > benefits of suffering, prayers/mantras? / than /orthodox/ > Christianity! - many think that glorification of suffering is the > cause of it's 'martyr-like world-view, > > I tend to agree with that. > > > > We all know, one way or another, that 'sweetness' of suffering, > purification and maturity that comes as a reward- afterward! But we > naturally tend to seek pleasure, avoid pain... and that should be > appreciated in every reading- I believe that considerate, caring > person> > can present a reading as a helping tool to > achieving 'maturity' /which, sure enough comes OFTEN, ALSO as a > fruit of suffering/, if not 'spirituality' in its common use. > > > > Back to badhakesh- suffering is inevitable, but results are not- > if we leave that crucial experience with bitterness and anger, we > would most likely feel victimized. I guess we can help the person > gain perspective, at least, in a reading. Striving to achieve more > in one hour is wishful thinking- when the person is ready, road map > to spirituality will appear.> > > > My most painful period in life was that of AK /period of > badhakesh, in MKS, was 'easier' in terms of worldly success/ I've > recently told one friend undergoing similar period what I've learned > from mine- if you try to advance your 'mundane goals, you'd most > likely get more frustrated- if you 'listen' to what you experience > in silence, achieve a distance necessary for understanding your > karma, you may expand your understanding of life, including yourself.> > > > Ok, I've just shared my impressions. > > I read my mail once a week, sorry I didn't respond earlier.> > Good Luck in your studies,> > dear Maja.> > Love, > > Anna> > > > --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:> > > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Anna)> > sohamsa@ .com> > Sunday, July 13, 2008, 3:48 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Namaste dear Anna (hey there, another girl!? Welcome!!!),> > > > I hope that you are not having a plan to just sit there and read > > this list. Maybe you could write something yourself from time to > > time. It would be nice (and useful for learning). Though I think > > that you wrote something recently, maybe a month ago? Your name > and > > ID seems familiar to me.> > > > I wish if I could help you more about your question. We are both > in > > the same position I am afraid. I don't know... Right now I am just > > holding my fingers crossed and hoping that this explanation we are > > both waiting is not about "it is a blessing for spirituality" . My > > blood pressure is rising when I hear that. One of first few > > sentences about Jyotish that I have learned was similar to this. > It > > was regarding my current MD. This person told me "It is bad for > > health, career, finances..." I asked "until when?" and got > > reply "Until 2010" (It was back in February of 2006. Can you guess > > how I felt to hear this?). Then he added "But it is great for > > spirituality" (And it was few months before I have even heard of > > SJC). I was like "Oh, great, now I feel much better..." (Of course > I > > was ironic). So, now you know what it means when Jyotisha predicts > a > > great period for spirituality. For 99% of world wide population it > > means that one should start digging hole in the ground and fill > bags > > with sand. (But it turned out I am ok in "My spirituality" . I > > started to like it > > > > I am waiting with you...> > > > P.S. I appreciate people who appreciate honest and open minded > > people.> > > > Regards,> > Maja> > > > sohamsa@ .com, 108ar <bona_mente@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Raphal and Maja,> > > I am dying to learn why/when 'Badhakesh can be blessing for an > > individual, as Raphael wrote.> > > btw. I read all your posts with interest, I appreciate that > > you both are honest and open-minded astrol' s> > > best wishes,> > > Anna > > > > > > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones > (Rafal > > Ji)> > > sohamsa@ .com> > > Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:02 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal Ji,> > > > > > Okay... let me finally introduce myself: My name is Maja and I > > have > > > no idea yet what is the art design for front page of "Vedic > > > remedies" by Sanjay Rath, but I am about to find it out till the > > end > > > of this month when friend of mine is supposed to come back from > > > India with my copy of this book. Nice to meet you too. > > > > > > 1. You see, that list of "NO" points are what I have learned so > > far > > > about gemstones, so when you take it in consideration, the only > > > conclusion I can make for now is that there is no suitable > > gemstone > > > I can prescribe for any Kanya lagna (including myself, and > (still > > > only with taking that list in consideration) especially because > of > > > Sk in trika bhava). That is the reason why I wrote that I find > > that > > > list very frustrating. Of course, another reason is that I > assumed > > > that there must be deeper story behind those points I wrote, > > except > > > I haven't got that far yet (I don't have a plan to stop myself > > here > > > with gemstones, don't worry). I'll trust you on that advice > about > > > diamond exactly because I understand that this list is not "the > > edge > > > of the world" about criteria for choosing. But it is nice to > find > > > out at the same time that I can advice diamond to a friend of > mine > > > who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is in 9th bhava. If I am o.k. > she > > > is going to bloom with diamond. As I understand in her case > there > > is > > > no single reason to avoid it.> > > > > > 2. Well I am at the kinder garden level with gemstones. I just > > play > > > with that a little. (But mantras are still… There I am a new > born > > > baby) Right now I am doing everything possible from my position > to > > > get closer to elementary school. (Don't take personally > following > > > lines, please. It is nothing pointed to you.) "Badhakesh many > > times > > > is blessing to the native". From the perspective of kinder > garden > > I > > > can give no knowledgably comment on this sentence. By the time I > > > reach that deeper perspective I just hope that I shall not meet > > with > > > explanation that sounds like "If you focus real hard you can > prove > > > hypothesis that elephant can hang over from a cliff with his > tail > > > holding to a daisy", because I ran off from Western Astrology > > > exactly because of such things. I would take it real hard to > > > disappoint in Jyotish. That explanation better be very good and > > > reasonable. > > > > > > Regards,> > > Maja> > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz > <starsuponme@ ...> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > > Dear Maja, Namaskar> > > > > > > > 1. Why is it frustrating for Kanya with Shukra in trika? Do > you > > > mean it > > > > takes away the viveka to choose a gem as general or its > > > problematic to > > > > choose a gem for you? For your chart its diamond..easy.> > > > > > > > 2. In choosing a gem the planet (gem-karaka) should bless one > > with > > > the > > > > material / emotional goods. So dusthana, maraka, badhakesh, > > neelam > > > can > > > > be good depending on a chart - as they can provide goods to > the > > > native. > > > > Sri Jagannath Center tries to teach class of astrologers which > > > will rise > > > > above those generalizations like 'dusthana is bad, maraka is > > bad, > > > > badhakesh is bad' etc..thats kindergarden astrology. Badhakesh > > > many > > > > times is blessing to the native.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze:> > > > >> > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > >> > > > > Namaste dear Rafal ji,> > > > >> > > > > Ohh... so that was the catch! Thank you very much.> > > > >> > > > > It is just that I find following list very frustrating > > sometimes:> > > > >> > > > > Lord of 2nd & 7th, maraka-NO!> > > > > Lord of 6, 8 & 12th, dustahn-NO!> > > > > Lord of 3rd & 11th, trika-NO!> > > > > Graha in dustahn-NO!> > > > > Graha in trika-NO!> > > > > Badhakesh-NO!> > > > > Blue sapphire-NO!> > > > > Green emerald-NO!> > > > >> > > > > (I also find it very frustrating because I am Kanya lagna > with > > > Sukra> > > > > in trika bhava > > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Maja> > > > >> > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > >> > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%> > > 40. com>, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > > > > Dear Maja & SS , Namaskar> > > > > >> > > > > > Usually we perscribe gems for kona lords to increase the > > rise,> > > > > fortune> > > > > > and wealth of native.> > > > > >> > > > > > Here Mangal is unafflicted and wellplaced so it will give > > > effect> > > > > of> > > > > > Lagnesh and not sixth lord.> > > > > >> > > > > > Instead Shani will give effect of sixth lord giving > problem > > to> > > > > pitta and> > > > > > tridoshic problems of genital area/anus (right side) (82-> 91).> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> / email: > > rafal@> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I don't have to write too much, question is same (down > > there > > > in> > > > > > > previous email from SS).> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Help us?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Maja> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > >> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%> > > 40. com> > > > > > <sohamsa%> > > > > 40. com>,> > > > > > > "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak@ > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Please can you advise why Coral will be appropriate > even > > > though> > > > > > > Mars> > > > > > > > is 6th lord?> > > > > > > > Is it because it lords 9th from AL?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Many thanx> > > > > > > > SS> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com> <sohamsa%> > > > > 40. com>,> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > > > > > > > Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the gem > will> > > > > activate> > > > > > > it.> > > > > > > > > Parivartana means that Diamond will activate Bu in 3 > > > from AL> > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > afflicts career life and skills of native.> > > > > > > > > 2. Neck influences thinking.> > > > > > > > > 3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet > > > forward in> > > > > > > > kalachakra> > > > > > > > > scheme.> > > > > > > > > 4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak. > > Badhakesh > > > in> > > > > > > lagna> > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga> > > > > > > > > 5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in twelfth. I > > > follow> > > > > > > Sanjayji> > > > > > > > who> > > > > > > > > also looks at lord when bhava is empty.> > > > > > > > > 6. We can do everything if we know what we are doing.> > > > > Planets in> > > > > > > > lagna,> > > > > > > > > fifth and tenth eclipses the others.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > > > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> / email: rafal@> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > rajarshi nandy pisze:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I was trying to understand your advise to Mr > Sunil. > > It> > > > > would> > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > great> > > > > > > > > > if you could kindly clarify some points which I > > could > > > not> > > > > > > > understand.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th lord, > > due > > > to> > > > > yuti> > > > > > > > causing> > > > > > > > > > exchange of effects?> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck? > What > > > is its> > > > > > > > significance?> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will give > > > effects> > > > > of> > > > > > > > shani.> > > > > > > > > > Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? But > i> > > > > thought> > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please tell > me > > > the> > > > > exact> > > > > > > > rule.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa > > badhaka. > > > In> > > > > that> > > > > > > > case> > > > > > > > > > shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to nagraj > > > temple?> > > > > Why> > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > Krishna idol donation neeeded?> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > -Regards> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Rajarshi> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > /*> > > > > > > > > > *"This above all: to thine own self be true!" - > > Hamlet*> > > > > > > > > > */> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ > > >/* > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >> > > > > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > Gemstones> > > > > > > (Sunil)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > > > > > > > > Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil , Namaskar> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > com> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > > > > > > > >> Dear Sunil, Namaskar> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> 1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord > > > which is> > > > > > > > > >> negative, but will also improve the finances and> > > > > > > Chandra..so> > > > > > > > its> > > > > > > > > >> not perfect. Coral has less side-effects here.> > > > > > > > > >> 2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for > > karma.> > > > > > > > > >> 3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified > > by > > > AK.> > > > > > > Irs> > > > > > > > also> > > > > > > > > >> in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL.> > > > > > > > > >> 4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial > > > setbacks> > > > > > > > (rasi)> > > > > > > > > >> and then improvement (navamsa).> > > > > > > > > >> 5. Just please try to perform those remedies > which > > I > > > have> > > > > > > > given> > > > > > > > > >> in the last mail.> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the > > Sarpa> > > > > > > should> > > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > >> broken and the ninth lord should be lifted - > > > Bhuvanesvari.> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should > be> > > > > > > remedied> > > > > > > > by> > > > > > > > > >> gift of idol/picture related to Sri Krishna.> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> Regards,> > > > > > > > > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > > > > > > > >> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > com> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> Sunil Sharma pisze:> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> Dear Rafal ji,> > > > > > > > > >>> Namaskar> > > > > > > > > >>> Thank you very much for your guidance. I like to > > hear> > > > > > > your> > > > > > > > > >>> comments, not just about me, but even regarding > > other> > > > > > > > > >>> person/subject> > > > > > > > > >>> Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, > still> > > > > > > wearing> > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > >>> Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring > > finger.> > > > > > > Should> > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > >>> be removed too? Not that I see any visible > > difference> > > > > > > after> > > > > > > > > >>> wearing it.> > > > > > > > > >>> I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean > > Coral > > > in> > > > > > > my> > > > > > > > case)> > > > > > > > > >>> in gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions > > for> > > > > > > this.> > > > > > > > > >>> Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow> > > > > > > Sapphire to> > > > > > > > > >>> boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted > due > > to> > > > > > > > Rahu's 9th> > > > > > > > > >>> aspect. Is it appropriate?> > > > > > > > > >>> As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen > good > > > period> > > > > > > > since> > > > > > > > > >>> the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some > sporadic > > > gains> > > > > > > > now and> > > > > > > > > >>> then but nothing substantial. I would love to > > change > > > the> > > > > > > > > >>> situation, if I can, and solicit your advice in > > this> > > > > > > > regard. If> > > > > > > > > >>> you will be kind enough to please give me a > clear > > > idea> > > > > > > what> > > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > > >>> can do.> > > > > > > > > >>> Regards> > > > > > > > > >>> Sunil> > > > > > > > > >>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@> > > > > > > wp.pl>/*> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>> > > > > > > > > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing> > > > > > > Gemstones> > > > > > > > (Sunil)> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*> > > > > > > > > >>> Dear Sunil , Namaskar> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>> You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with> > > > > > > rahu in> > > > > > > > > >>> Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna idol/picture to> > > > > > > > > >>> temple/spiritual person.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>> You can wear only Coral.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>> Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in> > > > > > > > third/ninth> > > > > > > > > >>> - only in dasa of this malefic - instead use > right> > > > > > > hand> > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > >>> fortune-gem.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>> Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari > Sadhana > > and> > > > > > > > > >>> worship Hanumanji sincerly!> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>> Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be > troublesome> > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > its> > > > > > > > > >>> the strength period (neechavastha) , after > initial> > > > > > > > struggle> > > > > > > > > >>> there should be improvement due to exaltation in > > d9.> > > > > > > > This> > > > > > > > > >>> period works for spirituality a lot due to > > karakaamsa> > > > > > > > > >>> position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra and> > > > > > > being> > > > > > > > GK> > > > > > > > > >>> it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava > will > > be> > > > > > > > > >>> strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and > fact> > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > Mo> > > > > > > > > >>> in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H).> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>> Regards,> > > > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher> > > > > > > > > >>> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. > com/ > > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/>> > > > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/ <http://www.rohinaa. com/>>> /> > > > > > > > email:> > > > > > > > > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>> Sunil Sharma pisze:> > > > > > > > > >>>> Dear Maja,> > > > > > > > > >>>> I fully appreciate your openness about various> > > > > > > > observations> > > > > > > > > >>>> made so far. At least you are better than me > when> > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > say> > > > > > > > > >>>> few charts are clear to you. To me all of them > > look> > > > > > > > confusing.> > > > > > > > > >>>> My birth data is as follows:> > > > > > > > > >>>> DOB: 21st September 1955> > > > > > > > > >>>> TOB: 10:32 A.M.> > > > > > > > > >>>> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)> > > > > > > > > >>>> Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I > am> > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > in a> > > > > > > > > >>>> hurry.> > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards> > > > > > > > > >>>> Sunil> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08,> > > > > > > majastrbacastro /<majastrbacastro@> > > > > > > > > >>>> > <majastrbaca stro@>/* wrote:> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> <majastrbaca stro@>> > > > > > > > > >>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing> > > > > > > Gemstones> > > > > > > > (Sunil)> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > > >>>> Dear Sunil,> > > > > > > > > >>>> Namaste> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> My decision> > > > > > > > > >>>> to wear that gift I received has nothing to do> > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > >>>> procedure of determining proper gemstone It> > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > just that I wear> > > > > > > > > >>>> jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find> > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > very entertaining> > > > > > > > > >>>> to learn about gemstones (not just for past two> > > > > > > > days), for past> > > > > > > > > >>>> month or two I had a few dialogues regarding> > > > > > > same> > > > > > > > kind of ring that> > > > > > > > > >>>> you are wearing right now, and it turned out it> > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > not suitable for> > > > > > > > > >>>> me when I was about to buy one. What happened> > > > > > > > yesterday I consider> > > > > > > > > >>>> it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for> > > > > > > > few months. (If I> > > > > > > > > >>>> suddenly disappear from list it will mean that> > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > was a wrong> > > > > > > > > >>>> decision > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would> > > > > > > > like to look at> > > > > > > > > >>>> whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to> > > > > > > > take it just as an> > > > > > > > > >>>> opinion. As I have said on the beginning of> > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > thread I am not> > > > > > > > > >>>> quite skilled with this issue, so have this> > > > > > > > > >>>> in mind (Though it was> > > > > > > > > >>>> not so difficult for me to say that ruby is> > > > > > > proper> > > > > > > > > >>>> gemstone for> > > > > > > > > >>>> Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so> > > > > > > > confusing as they> > > > > > > > > >>>> often could be in various charts. When> > > > > > > positions> > > > > > > > in chart are> > > > > > > > > >>>> complicated I choose to say "I don't know"> > > > > > > rather> > > > > > > > than to ruin> > > > > > > > > >>>> someone's life.)> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards,> > > > > > > > > >>>> Maja> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> , Sunil> > > > > > > > Sharma> > > > > > > > > >>>> <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Dear Maja,> > > > > > > > > >>>> > I have been reading each and every message on> > > > > > > > this thread and, at> > > > > > > > > >>>> the outset, was surprised to read about> > > > > > > Neeraj's> > > > > > > > observations.> > > > > > > > > >>>> However, things became quite clear later on> > > > > > > > especially with your> > > > > > > > > >>>> comments on antardasha.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Your very last sentence in your last mail> > > > > > > (even> > > > > > > > though chandra is> > > > > > > > > >>>> not lording my trines) caught my attention.> > > > > > > > Debilitated chandra (in> > > > > > > > > >>>> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my> > > > > > > > chart with exalted> > > > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka> > > > > > > > > >>>> Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu> > > > > > > conjoining> > > > > > > > moon in> > > > > > > > > >>>> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th> > > > > > > > > >>>> house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY> > > > > > > > > >>>> or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So,> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > net result is> > > > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already> > > > > > > > afflicted due to> > > > > > > > > >>>> debilitation) is afflicted. All this is> > > > > > > something> > > > > > > > I have been told> > > > > > > > > >>>> by various astrologers (not necessarily all at> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > same time).> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and> > > > > > > Diamond> > > > > > > > to me. I am still> > > > > > > > > >>>> wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand> > > > > > > > ring finger> > > > > > > > > >>>> (presently going through Venus dasha), and> > > > > > > Coral> > > > > > > > in gold pendant in> > > > > > > > > >>>> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier> > > > > > > > but changed it to a> > > > > > > > > >>>> pendant and wore it in the neck in a black> > > > > > > string.> > > > > > > > I have since> > > > > > > > > >>>> removed it but I must say that whenever I wear> > > > > > > > Pearl it quietens my> > > > > > > > > >>>> temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any> > > > > > > > improvement in my> > > > > > > > > >>>> career or financial aspects.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Now, my real question to you is> > > > > > > > > >>>> this. Moon being afflicted and> > > > > > > > > >>>> left hand to be used (for the effect to be> > > > > > > > reduced), I should> > > > > > > > > >>>> have> > > > > > > > > >>>> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You> > > > > > > > may take few days to> > > > > > > > > >>>> reply! I am not in a hurry.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Regards> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Sunil> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro> > > > > > > > <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >>>> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing> > > > > > > > Gemstones (Swami)> > > > > > > > > >>>> > @ . com> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Namaste dear Swami,> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra> > > > > > > > being unfavorable> > > > > > > > > >>>> Graha> > > > > > > > > >>>> > in this chart, those mentioned were the only> > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > I could find (and> > > > > > > > > >>>> > that was after quite some time spent in> > > > > > > serious> > > > > > > > thinking). It is> > > > > > > > > >>>> my> > > > > > > > > >>>> > mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra and> > > > > > > > Maheshvara in Shula> > > > > > > > > >>>> dasa> > > > > > > > > >>>> > somewhere in my> > > > > > > > > >>>> memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I> > > > > > > did> > > > > > > > > >>>> say> > > > > > > > > >>>> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any> > > > > > > > > >>>> significance to wear gemstone> > > > > > > > > >>>> > for it (either to increase or to decrease).> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > So far I was informed about just a few rules> > > > > > > > regarding determining> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I> > > > > > > thought> > > > > > > > that Ketu/Rahu> > > > > > > > > >>>> could> > > > > > > > > >>>> > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th> > > > > > > > from AK or if Rahu> > > > > > > > > >>>> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful> > > > > > > > information about this> > > > > > > > > >>>> > issue.> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue...> > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > received one> > > > > > > > > >>>> > completely unexpected gift today afternoon:> > > > > > > > silver ring with a> > > > > > > > > >>>> pearl> > > > > > > > > >>>> > and matching silver pectoral also decorated> > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > pearls. What is> > > > > > > > > >>>> > this today...? I was never this much involved> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > any thread so> > > > > > > > > >>>> far.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear it, even> > > > > > > > though Chandra is not> > > > > > > > > >>>> > lording my trines.> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards,> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Maja> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > --- In> > > > > > > > > >>>> , "swami"> > > > > > > <swami@>> > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om,> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Dear Maja,> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Your insights are great, incidently I was> > > > > > > > struck at your> > > > > > > > > >>>> mention> > > > > > > > > >>>> > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I> > > > > > > > don't think> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any> > > > > > > > significance) .> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I could not understand How sukra is> > > > > > > > maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu> > > > > > > > > >>>> as> > > > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar planet . that also is appears> > > > > > > incorrect.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu> > > > > > > so> > > > > > > > count to 8 th> > > > > > > > > >>>> would> > > > > > > > > >>>> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > Leo.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > The sign lord is SUN.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN> > > > > > > > becomes Brahma Planet.> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > 12 th from Sun> > > > > > > > > >>>> the> > > > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Eight> > > > > > > > > >>>> lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > We apply parashar strength to determne> > > > > > > > strenth.Ketu and jup are> > > > > > > > > >>>> > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so> > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > per naisargic bal> > > > > > > > > >>>> Jup> > > > > > > > > >>>> > is Maheswar.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47> > > > > > > sutra.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is> > > > > > > > discussed.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih> > > > > > > > knowledge .So Gem stone of> > > > > > > > > >>>> > planet that is maheswar if put in left should> > > > > > > > diminish> > > > > > > > > >>>> knowledge.If> > > > > > > > > >>>> > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of> > > > > > > > vedic shahstra.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Perhaps native has tried many gems.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > By the way, influence of wearing planet> > > > > > > > related to maheshwar is> > > > > > > > > >>>> > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i> > > > > > > could> > > > > > > > access, so this> > > > > > > > > >>>> > last suggestion may be taken just a logical> > > > > > > > > >>>> aplication.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > with regards.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > OM TATSAT> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > > > > > ---> > > > > > > > -- ---------> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Swami_RCS> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- ----------> > > > > > > ---> > > > > > > > ----- --------> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious> > > > > > > effulgence> > > > > > > > of that Divine> > > > > > > > > >>>> Being> > > > > > > > > >>>> > who has created the three worlds.May He> > > > > > > Direct> > > > > > > > our understanding. "> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- ----------> > > > > > > ---> > > > > > > > ----- --------- --------> > > > > > > > > >>>> --> > > > > > > > > >>>> > -> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > -> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > majastrbacastro> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing> > > > > > > > Gemstones> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing> > > > > > > > zircon on his left> > > > > > > > > >>>> hand,> > > > > > > > > >>>> > so> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that means he was weakening his lord of> > > > > > > > > >>>> 10th bhava in 9th...> > > > > > > > > >>>> And> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd> > > > > > > > bhava (which is> > > > > > > > > >>>> > considered> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also> > > > > > > > maheshvara.. . but I don't> > > > > > > > > >>>> > think> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any> > > > > > > > significance) .> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I really dislike complicating simple> > > > > > > things,> > > > > > > > but this time I> > > > > > > > > >>>> can> > > > > > > > > >>>> > not> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in> > > > > > > > Dhanu, yet Mithuna is> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > Guru in it. That> > > > > > > > > >>>> > means> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his> > > > > > > > Arudha Lagna. 12th> > > > > > > > > >>>> lord> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from> > > > > > > Arudha> > > > > > > > Lagna signifies> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > expenses. He was weakening this one also.> > > > > > > > These are just> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> thoughts...> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Maja> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > --- In> > > > > > > > > >>>> , RKM> > > > > > > > <rajeevmundra@ >> > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Dear Neeraj> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in> > > > > > > 9th> > > > > > > > house which is a> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Royal> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Yoga.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have> > > > > > > > helped you grow in your> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > career.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very> > > > > > > > suitable.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > Moon. -ve.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve> > > > > > > > (but ok if malefic> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > debiliated in 12th> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > house)> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and> > > > > > > just> > > > > > > > out> > > > > > > > > >>>> of 8th house.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and> > > > > > > relatively> > > > > > > > unafflicted is> > > > > > > > > >>>> > working> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > the> > > > > > > > > >>>> best.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Suns stone would probably give you> > > > > > > better> > > > > > > > health and overall> > > > > > > > > >>>> > luck.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > But venus will cause growth in career.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > --> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Ã'Ã...ò Ã'Ã"Ã0/00Ã'Ã"Ã?Ã'Ã"f> > > > > > > > Ã'Ã"´Ã'Ã"Æ'Ã'Ã"²Ã'Ã"¬Ã'Ã"Ã?> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > RKM> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda> > > > > > > > krsna> > > > > > > > > >>>> <yasodakrsna@ >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj,> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of> > > > > > > SJC> > > > > > > > have made error.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Particularly in my case was> > > > > > > recommended> > > > > > > > Coral by one,> > > > > > > > > >>>> Ruby> > > > > > > > > >>>> > by> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > two.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by> > > > > > > > > >>>> recommended quality> > > > > > > > > >>>> > gemologist.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not> > > > > > > by> > > > > > > > internet> > > > > > > > > >>>> questions> > > > > > > > > >>>> > but> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > by paid> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > services.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The good thing was the price of gold> > > > > > > > soared and made good> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > money> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > by selling> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > it.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath> > > > > > > recommendation> > > > > > > > of yellow> > > > > > > > > >>>> sapphire> > > > > > > > > >>>> > as> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > it works.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their> > > > > > > > Devata for the> > > > > > > > > >>>> prediction> > > > > > > > > >>>> > to> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > be true.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Yasoda.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than> > > > > > > > gemstone if sincere> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_> > > > > > > 2000@>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > vedic astrology;> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru]> > > > > > > > > >>>> Choosing Gemstones> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > It's been more than four years that I> > > > > > > > studied> > > > > > > > > >>>> different> > > > > > > > > >>>> > books on> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstones> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > and got advise from different good> > > > > > > > astrologers about the> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstone. But none> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > of them gave very good result.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > As of now, some of the following> > > > > > > > theories are present for> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > choosing> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > gemstone.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord> > > > > > > > > >>>> (recommended by many> > > > > > > > > >>>> astrologers)> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1,> > > > > > > 5,> > > > > > > > and 9) - Anukool> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > However, I recently found that one> > > > > > > > gemstone worked very> > > > > > > > > >>>> well> > > > > > > > > >>>> > for> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > me. After> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wearing that I got a very good> > > > > > > results> > > > > > > > in my career and> > > > > > > > > >>>> also> > > > > > > > > >>>> > my> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > income> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > increased by more than 100% in> > > > > > > approx. 4> > > > > > > > months.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not> > > > > > > recommended> > > > > > > > to me by any> > > > > > > > > >>>> > astrologer> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > (though I> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > consulted several ones in person) and> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > no such book it> > > > > > > > > >>>> was> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > mentioned that> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > I should choose this gemstone. I read> > > > > > > > approximately 8-10> > > > > > > > > >>>> > books> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > on gem> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I> > > > > > > > was not advised to> > > > > > > > > >>>> > wear> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > this gemstone.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby,> > > > > > > > Yellow Sapphire and> > > > > > > > > >>>> Red> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Coral> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > by> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > different astrologers. One even> > > > > > > advised> > > > > > > > blue sapphire,> > > > > > > > > >>>> that> > > > > > > > > >>>> > made> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > matters> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > worse.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > then I will tell> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > gem> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > stone that> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > worked for me.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon> > > > > > > > (Substitute of> > > > > > > > > >>>> Diamond).> > > > > > > > > >>>> > I> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > worn this in> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and> > > > > > > things> > > > > > > > started working> > > > > > > > > >>>> > positive> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing> > > > > > > > exceptional in> > > > > > > > > >>>> my> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > personal / work> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be> > > > > > > > noted.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. It's not lord of> > > > > > > > > >>>> trines.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not> > > > > > > running.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Still, it gave me good results.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way> > > > > > > > that may be tried> > > > > > > > > >>>> if> > > > > > > > > >>>> > some> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > to try. Please share your results, so> > > > > > > > that we can know> > > > > > > > > >>>> more> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > about this.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in> > > > > > > 1,5,9> > > > > > > > house.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If> > > > > > > > any of the planets> > > > > > > > > >>>> > that> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > were in 1,5,9> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > house moves to> > > > > > > > > >>>> some other house, ignore that planet.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines> > > > > > > > (1,5,9) in both natal> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > chart> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > and> > > > > > > > > >>>> bhava> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore> > > > > > > rahu,> > > > > > > > ketu)> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found> > > > > > > till> > > > > > > > step 3 is> > > > > > > > > >>>> benefic> > > > > > > > > >>>> > for> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > your> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > main gemstone of> > > > > > > > > >>>> > that> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > planet and> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wear it in the right hand.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet> > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > was found in> > > > > > > > > >>>> step> > > > > > > > > >>>> 3> > > > > > > > > >>>> > is> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > malefic,> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > then choose the substitute gem for> > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > planet and wear> > > > > > > > > >>>> it> > > > > > > > > >>>> > in> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > the left hand.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > The above was just a thought that came to my> > > > > > > > mind and if> > > > > > > > > >>>> > some> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants to> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > try it, they may do so for> > > > > > > experiment.> > > > > > > > Kindly share with> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > other> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > members, if> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > this method works for you.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> > ~ om tat sat ~> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the> > > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari> > > > > > > > Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> > > > > > > > > >>>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar> > > > > > > > the Great who said> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> that the human> > > > > > > > > >>>> > stomach should not become a graveyard for> > > > > > > > animals.> > > > > > > > > >>>> > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do> > > > > > > > one free chart> > > > > > > > > >>>> reading> > > > > > > > > >>>> > today> > > > > > > > > >>>> Links> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> ~ om tat sat ~> > > > > > > > > >>>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the> > > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram.> > > > > > > > > >>>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari> > > > > > > Mantra 'Hare> > > > > > > > Rama Krishna'> > > > > > > > > >>>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > Great who said that the human> > > > > > > > > >>>> stomach should not become a graveyard for> > > > > > > animals.> > > > > > > > > >>>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do> > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > free chart reading> > > > > > > > > >>>> today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Dear Anna, Namaste O.K. please don't make me a saint. " but perspective offered by ethical and well educated astrologer /or psychotherapist/ are too valuable to be ignored. " Somewhere along the way in this thread I was saying which one I prefer more, but that is just my own opinion. (O.K. you won, I admit, I like Salvador Dali, fine… My very best wishes to you Anna, not just in learning Jyotish. Regards, Maya Hari Om Tat Sat sohamsa , 108ar <bona_mente wrote: > > Dear Maja, > > You won- your honest interest and ability to dig deeper are heart- warming. You se how good motivatior you are! Just by being who you are- it's a great asset, my dear, hope you'll never forget that. > > Short reply to the rest of your mail: I believe that good astrologer always helps- predictions can prove to be wrong in practical terms, but perspective offered by ethical and well educated astrologer /or psychotherapist/ are too valuable to be ignored. Not to be discouraged by mistakes, being misunderstood, that's simply part of the package. > > Life is not easy, neither should it be /remember 'the road less travelled/. > One jyotisha said /advice for handling difficult periods/:' See the job, do the job, avoid misery'. It's like 33,33%you mentioned. > > Love, > Anna > > > > > --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro wrote: > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Anna) II > sohamsa > Friday, July 25, 2008, 9:03 AM > > Om Gurave Namah > Namaste dear Anna, > > What a pleasure knowing that hour and a half spent on my keyboard > while I was typing that last reply to you were worth of it. You are > here again within less then a week! > > What can I say now... Nothing to add. Everything I would say to you > would be pretty much like copy/paste of your email. > > Still, there were two question marks in your email: > > " One will benefit more from a difficult period if he tried and > failed than if he did nothing /except suffering/, because at the end > of it there will be little reward to be reaped, Is it always clear > from the chart ? " > > You know, those 33,333..% can often prove Jyotisha being wrong. It > can be individual choice. > > " Do we help people see their options with less fear and more > optimism? " > > I think I have a failure to always motivate people with " It is ok, > you can make it, it is not so bad as you may think " when I recognize > difficulties in chart, or even when I clearly see that a disaster is > about to come. I always tend to believe that it won't be that bad > and I always tend to spare my closest from additional panic. There > is no need for that. I still remember how I felt when I got that > prediction for another 4 years of very tuff times. It was very hard > to hear that (and it is not that tuff as I expected, I was filling > those " bags with sand " for nothing O.K. maybe I am making huge > mistake for keeping quiet about truth, but... I just know how hard > it is to hear that, that is all. > > But remedies above all if Jyotisha tends to help someone! Simple > prediction is pointless. > > Your last paragraph... yes, dear, what a relief knowing that fact. > It gives patients at hardest times. > > My warmest regards to you, > > Maya > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > sohamsa@ .com, 108ar <bona_mente@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Maja, > > What a pleasure reading your writings! Your understanding of my > message is correct. I'd just add that 'spirituality' is 'hard sell', > just because many connect it with suffering. I tend to avoid/limit > the use of the term for that reason. We can always tell someone in a > difficult period that he/she would be facing 'challenges' - my > opservation is that people with 'difficult' charts understand that > better than those 'spoild' by lack of difficulties. It seems also to > be true, that 'high achievers' do have difficult chart-you may have > seen sarpa yoga in some successful peoples' charts. Challenges > give 'musles' and 'depth', indeed. Whether that is utilized in > worldly ambitions or 'spirituality' is another issue. > > One will benefit more from a difficult period if he tried and > failed than if he did nothing /except suffering/, because at the end > of it there will be little reward to be reaped, Is it always clear > from the chart ? Do we help people see their options with less fear > and more optimism? Having suffered ourselves, we are /therethically/ > better able to help others, reduce their suffering and inspire > hopefullness. If everything else fails the fact that 'nothing lasts > for ever' is comfort in its own right. > > > > Besides, if I failed to accomplish what I wanted in this lifetime, > not to worry, LOL, another life will come /hard sell, as well/ > > Love, > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 7/20/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote: > > > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Anna) > II > > sohamsa@ .com > > Sunday, July 20, 2008, 9:34 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste dear Anna, > > > > I forgot to add to first paragraph in my email: Yes, dear, we > > understand each other perfectly. I get the impression like your > hand > > typed everything there was on my mind. We seem to share same point > > of view on spirituality. Okay, painful while it lasts, but when > you > > take a look behind your back and draw a line, you can only say " I > am > > glad " . We both don't really like that painful situation while it > > lasts, but I see that you are also observing those situations from > a > > different angle then you used to. (Which in fact makes them less > > painful also) > > > > I don't know. It's royal highness " Suffering " . .. Yes, that is ok. > > But I also think that leading a normal everyday life, taking care > of > > your close ones, avoiding adharma in interpersonal relations and > > actions is at least on position number two, if not equal when you > > take a look at world around you. > > > > You did a great job with your friend. I hope she is a little more > > flexible than most of my friends (I wrote widely about them in my > > previous email). > > > > (Ohhhh, this was supposed to be just a few sentences... Now I > think > > of so many things) > > > > I spent 17 years in AK MD, which is 2/3 of my whole life and... > > Nothing special happened that hurt me until Bu/Gu MD/AD. But I was > a > > child (even though I remember events when I was just 2 years old) > > > > Well.. Okay, let's admit that when someone decides to live in > > celibacy, dedicate whole life completely to spirituality and > attain > > moksha it is to be expected to " develop conditional reflex " for > > favoring suffer in a way. > > > > I am just talking about everyday life and everyday people who > don't > > even take your or my approach (which is very similar as I can > read. > > Oh, you also like to use irony? . Well there it is everything in > > my previous email. My frustration. .. and fear that I shall have > to > > keep it for myself everything I have learned so far and all that > > what i am about to learn. That " softer and lighter approach to > > suffer and life/spirituality matters " we share. > > > > When I write about spirituality maybe you can get impression that > my > > attitudes are similar to those written by a child who is yet about > > to learn some things in life. I sure hope you understand the basic > > point of what I am trying to say. Can you? (Oh, please, > don't " throw > > yourself on me " with some quotations > > > > Again, my very best wishes in your studying dear Anna. > > > > Regards, > > Maja > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > sohamsa@ .com, 108ar <bona_mente@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Hi dear Maja, > > > I like your message and understand your kind reproaching me for > > not writing more- I used to write a lot, dear Maja, now, it seems > > it's is your turn, LOL. It's so refreshing to follow your way of > > studying divine science of Jyotish and your /intellectual/ honesty, > > (even when I don't agree with you) > > > I was ironic too when posed the question about badhakesh- Pain, > > suffering, loss..ah, so good for spirituality, sometimes I think I > > wouldn't deprive myself of that benefit even though it came with a > > big price tag/of suffering/. In every religion, /in art, psy.as > > well/.suffering holds noble, irreplaceable place on the path of > > attaining spirituali ty > > > In one mail you mentioned your frustration of not being able > > to " convert " clients /to spirituality, mantras/ in one hour- why > > would you do that? Every person has his own way in this respect, > > within the framework of religion one is born with. Who knows > > benefits of suffering, prayers/mantras? / than /orthodox/ > > Christianity! - many think that glorification of suffering is the > > cause of it's 'martyr-like world-view, > > > I tend to agree with that. > > > > > > We all know, one way or another, that 'sweetness' of suffering, > > purification and maturity that comes as a reward- afterward! But > we > > naturally tend to seek pleasure, avoid pain... and that should be > > appreciated in every reading- I believe that considerate, caring > > person > > > can present a reading as a helping tool to > > achieving 'maturity' /which, sure enough comes OFTEN, ALSO as a > > fruit of suffering/, if not 'spirituality' in its common use. > > > > > > Back to badhakesh- suffering is inevitable, but results are not- > > if we leave that crucial experience with bitterness and anger, we > > would most likely feel victimized. I guess we can help the person > > gain perspective, at least, in a reading. Striving to achieve more > > in one hour is wishful thinking- when the person is ready, road > map > > to spirituality will appear. > > > > > > My most painful period in life was that of AK /period of > > badhakesh, in MKS, was 'easier' in terms of worldly success/ I've > > recently told one friend undergoing similar period what I've > learned > > from mine- if you try to advance your 'mundane goals, you'd most > > likely get more frustrated- if you 'listen' to what you experience > > in silence, achieve a distance necessary for understanding your > > karma, you may expand your understanding of life, including > yourself. > > > > > > Ok, I've just shared my impressions. > > > I read my mail once a week, sorry I didn't respond earlier. > > > Good Luck in your studies, > > > dear Maja. > > > Love, > > > Anna > > > > > > --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones > (Anna) > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > Sunday, July 13, 2008, 3:48 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Namaste dear Anna (hey there, another girl!? Welcome!!!), > > > > > > I hope that you are not having a plan to just sit there and read > > > this list. Maybe you could write something yourself from time to > > > time. It would be nice (and useful for learning). Though I think > > > that you wrote something recently, maybe a month ago? Your name > > and > > > ID seems familiar to me. > > > > > > I wish if I could help you more about your question. We are both > > in > > > the same position I am afraid. I don't know... Right now I am > just > > > holding my fingers crossed and hoping that this explanation we > are > > > both waiting is not about " it is a blessing for spirituality " . > My > > > blood pressure is rising when I hear that. One of first few > > > sentences about Jyotish that I have learned was similar to this. > > It > > > was regarding my current MD. This person told me " It is bad for > > > health, career, finances... " I asked " until when? " and got > > > reply " Until 2010 " (It was back in February of 2006. Can you > guess > > > how I felt to hear this?). Then he added " But it is great for > > > spirituality " (And it was few months before I have even heard of > > > SJC). I was like " Oh, great, now I feel much better... " (Of > course > > I > > > was ironic). So, now you know what it means when Jyotisha > predicts > > a > > > great period for spirituality. For 99% of world wide population > it > > > means that one should start digging hole in the ground and fill > > bags > > > with sand. (But it turned out I am ok in " My spirituality " . > I > > > started to like it > > > > > > I am waiting with you... > > > > > > P.S. I appreciate people who appreciate honest and open minded > > > people. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Maja > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, 108ar <bona_mente@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Raphal and Maja, > > > > I am dying to learn why/when 'Badhakesh can be blessing for an > > > individual, as Raphael wrote. > > > > btw. I read all your posts with interest, I appreciate that > > > you both are honest and open-minded astrol' s > > > > best wishes, > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones > > (Rafal > > > Ji) > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal Ji, > > > > > > > > Okay... let me finally introduce myself: My name is Maja and I > > > have > > > > no idea yet what is the art design for front page of " Vedic > > > > remedies " by Sanjay Rath, but I am about to find it out till > the > > > end > > > > of this month when friend of mine is supposed to come back > from > > > > India with my copy of this book. Nice to meet you too. > > > > > > > > 1. You see, that list of " NO " points are what I have learned > so > > > far > > > > about gemstones, so when you take it in consideration, the > only > > > > conclusion I can make for now is that there is no suitable > > > gemstone > > > > I can prescribe for any Kanya lagna (including myself, and > > (still > > > > only with taking that list in consideration) especially > because > > of > > > > Sk in trika bhava). That is the reason why I wrote that I find > > > that > > > > list very frustrating. Of course, another reason is that I > > assumed > > > > that there must be deeper story behind those points I wrote, > > > except > > > > I haven't got that far yet (I don't have a plan to stop myself > > > here > > > > with gemstones, don't worry). I'll trust you on that advice > > about > > > > diamond exactly because I understand that this list is > not " the > > > edge > > > > of the world " about criteria for choosing. But it is nice to > > find > > > > out at the same time that I can advice diamond to a friend of > > mine > > > > who is also Kanya Lg, but her Sk is in 9th bhava. If I am o.k. > > she > > > > is going to bloom with diamond. As I understand in her case > > there > > > is > > > > no single reason to avoid it. > > > > > > > > 2. Well I am at the kinder garden level with gemstones. I just > > > play > > > > with that a little. (But mantras are still… There I am a new > > born > > > > baby) Right now I am doing everything possible from my > position > > to > > > > get closer to elementary school. (Don't take personally > > following > > > > lines, please. It is nothing pointed to you.) " Badhakesh many > > > times > > > > is blessing to the native " . From the perspective of kinder > > garden > > > I > > > > can give no knowledgably comment on this sentence. By the time > I > > > > reach that deeper perspective I just hope that I shall not > meet > > > with > > > > explanation that sounds like " If you focus real hard you can > > prove > > > > hypothesis that elephant can hang over from a cliff with his > > tail > > > > holding to a daisy " , because I ran off from Western Astrology > > > > exactly because of such things. I would take it real hard to > > > > disappoint in Jyotish. That explanation better be very good > and > > > > reasonable. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Maja > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@ ...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > 1. Why is it frustrating for Kanya with Shukra in trika? Do > > you > > > > mean it > > > > > takes away the viveka to choose a gem as general or its > > > > problematic to > > > > > choose a gem for you? For your chart its diamond..easy. > > > > > > > > > > 2. In choosing a gem the planet (gem-karaka) should bless > one > > > with > > > > the > > > > > material / emotional goods. So dusthana, maraka, badhakesh, > > > neelam > > > > can > > > > > be good depending on a chart - as they can provide goods to > > the > > > > native. > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center tries to teach class of astrologers > which > > > > will rise > > > > > above those generalizations like 'dusthana is bad, maraka is > > > bad, > > > > > badhakesh is bad' etc..thats kindergarden astrology. > Badhakesh > > > > many > > > > > times is blessing to the native. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Ohh... so that was the catch! Thank you very much. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is just that I find following list very frustrating > > > sometimes: > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord of 2nd & 7th, maraka-NO! > > > > > > Lord of 6, 8 & 12th, dustahn-NO! > > > > > > Lord of 3rd & 11th, trika-NO! > > > > > > Graha in dustahn-NO! > > > > > > Graha in trika-NO! > > > > > > Badhakesh-NO! > > > > > > Blue sapphire-NO! > > > > > > Green emerald-NO! > > > > > > > > > > > > (I also find it very frustrating because I am Kanya lagna > > with > > > > Sukra > > > > > > in trika bhava > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Maja > > > > > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > Dear Maja & SS , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Usually we perscribe gems for kona lords to increase the > > > rise, > > > > > > fortune > > > > > > > and wealth of native. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here Mangal is unafflicted and wellplaced so it will > give > > > > effect > > > > > > of > > > > > > > Lagnesh and not sixth lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Instead Shani will give effect of sixth lord giving > > problem > > > to > > > > > > pitta and > > > > > > > tridoshic problems of genital area/anus (right side) (82- > > 91). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> / email: > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maja Strbac pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > Namaste dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't have to write too much, question is same (down > > > there > > > > in > > > > > > > > previous email from SS). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Help us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Maja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > > > > 40. com> > > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > > > " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please can you advise why Coral will be appropriate > > even > > > > though > > > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > > > is 6th lord? > > > > > > > > > Is it because it lords 9th from AL? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanx > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com> <sohamsa% > > > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the gem > > will > > > > > > activate > > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > Parivartana means that Diamond will activate Bu in > 3 > > > > from AL > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > afflicts career life and skills of native. > > > > > > > > > > 2. Neck influences thinking. > > > > > > > > > > 3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet > > > > forward in > > > > > > > > > kalachakra > > > > > > > > > > scheme. > > > > > > > > > > 4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak. > > > Badhakesh > > > > in > > > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga > > > > > > > > > > 5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in twelfth. > I > > > > follow > > > > > > > > Sanjayji > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > also looks at lord when bhava is empty. > > > > > > > > > > 6. We can do everything if we know what we are > doing. > > > > > > Planets in > > > > > > > > > lagna, > > > > > > > > > > fifth and tenth eclipses the others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > > > > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rajarshi nandy pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was trying to understand your advise to Mr > > Sunil. > > > It > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > great > > > > > > > > > > > if you could kindly clarify some points which I > > > could > > > > not > > > > > > > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th > lord, > > > due > > > > to > > > > > > yuti > > > > > > > > > causing > > > > > > > > > > > exchange of effects? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck? > > What > > > > is its > > > > > > > > > significance? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will > give > > > > effects > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > shani. > > > > > > > > > > > Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? > But > > i > > > > > > thought > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please > tell > > me > > > > the > > > > > > exact > > > > > > > > > rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa > > > badhaka. > > > > In > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > case > > > > > > > > > > > shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to > nagraj > > > > temple? > > > > > > Why > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > Krishna idol donation neeeded? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajarshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /* > > > > > > > > > > > * " This above all: to thine own self be true! " - > > > Hamlet* > > > > > > > > > > > */ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal > Gendarz /<starsuponme@ > > > >/* > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > Gemstones > > > > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > > com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > > > > >> Dear Sunil, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> 1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth > lord > > > > which is > > > > > > > > > > >> negative, but will also improve the finances and > > > > > > > > Chandra..so > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > >> not perfect. Coral has less side-effects here. > > > > > > > > > > >> 2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for > > > karma. > > > > > > > > > > >> 3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas > signified > > > by > > > > AK. > > > > > > > > Irs > > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > >> in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL. > > > > > > > > > > >> 4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial > > > > setbacks > > > > > > > > > (rasi) > > > > > > > > > > >> and then improvement (navamsa). > > > > > > > > > > >> 5. Just please try to perform those remedies > > which > > > I > > > > have > > > > > > > > > given > > > > > > > > > > >> in the last mail. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the > > > Sarpa > > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > >> broken and the ninth lord should be lifted - > > > > Bhuvanesvari. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu > should > > be > > > > > > > > remedied > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > >> gift of idol/picture related to Sri Krishna. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Regards, > > > > > > > > > > >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > > > > >> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > > com > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > > > >>> Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > >>> Thank you very much for your guidance. I like > to > > > hear > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > >>> comments, not just about me, but even > regarding > > > other > > > > > > > > > > >>> person/subject > > > > > > > > > > >>> Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, > > still > > > > > > > > wearing > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > >>> Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring > > > finger. > > > > > > > > Should > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > >>> be removed too? Not that I see any visible > > > difference > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > >>> wearing it. > > > > > > > > > > >>> I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean > > > Coral > > > > in > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > case) > > > > > > > > > > >>> in gold pendant around the neck. Any > suggestions > > > for > > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > >>> Secondly, someone suggested I should wear > Yellow > > > > > > > > Sapphire to > > > > > > > > > > >>> boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted > > due > > > to > > > > > > > > > Rahu's 9th > > > > > > > > > > >>> aspect. Is it appropriate? > > > > > > > > > > >>> As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen > > good > > > > period > > > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > > >>> the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some > > sporadic > > > > gains > > > > > > > > > now and > > > > > > > > > > >>> then but nothing substantial. I would love to > > > change > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > >>> situation, if I can, and solicit your advice > in > > > this > > > > > > > > > regard. If > > > > > > > > > > >>> you will be kind enough to please give me a > > clear > > > > idea > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > >>> can do. > > > > > > > > > > >>> Regards > > > > > > > > > > >>> Sunil > > > > > > > > > > >>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal > Gendarz /<starsuponme@ > > > > > > > > wp.pl>/* > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > > > > Gemstones > > > > > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > > > > > >>> Dear Sunil , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh > with > > > > > > > > rahu in > > > > > > > > > > >>> Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna idol/picture > to > > > > > > > > > > >>> temple/spiritual person. > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> You can wear only Coral. > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Left hand is usually for malefic being placed > in > > > > > > > > > third/ninth > > > > > > > > > > >>> - only in dasa of this malefic - instead use > > right > > > > > > > > hand > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > >>> fortune-gem. > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari > > Sadhana > > > and > > > > > > > > > > >>> worship Hanumanji sincerly! > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be > > troublesome > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > >>> the strength period (neechavastha) , after > > initial > > > > > > > > > struggle > > > > > > > > > > >>> there should be improvement due to exaltation > in > > > d9. > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > >>> period works for spirituality a lot due to > > > karakaamsa > > > > > > > > > > >>> position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra > and > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > GK > > > > > > > > > > >>> it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava > > will > > > be > > > > > > > > > > >>> strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and > > fact > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > Mo > > > > > > > > > > >>> in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H). > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Regards, > > > > > > > > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > > > > > >>> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. > > com/ > > > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/> > > > > > > > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/ <http://www.rohinaa. > com/>>> / > > > > > > > > > email: > > > > > > > > > > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Sunil Sharma pisze: > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Dear Maja, > > > > > > > > > > >>>> I fully appreciate your openness about various > > > > > > > > > observations > > > > > > > > > > >>>> made so far. At least you are better than me > > when > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > say > > > > > > > > > > >>>> few charts are clear to you. To me all of > them > > > look > > > > > > > > > confusing. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> My birth data is as follows: > > > > > > > > > > >>>> DOB: 21st September 1955 > > > > > > > > > > >>>> TOB: 10:32 A.M. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27) > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Like I said earlier, take your time about it. > I > > am > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > in a > > > > > > > > > > >>>> hurry. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Sunil > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, > > > > > > > > majastrbacastro /<majastrbacastro@ > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > <majastrbaca stro@>/* wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> <majastrbaca stro@> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > > > > Gemstones > > > > > > > > > (Sunil) > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Namaste > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> My decision > > > > > > > > > > >>>> to wear that gift I received has nothing to do > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > >>>> procedure of determining proper gemstone It > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > just that I wear > > > > > > > > > > >>>> jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > very entertaining > > > > > > > > > > >>>> to learn about gemstones (not just for past > two > > > > > > > > > days), for past > > > > > > > > > > >>>> month or two I had a few dialogues regarding > > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > kind of ring that > > > > > > > > > > >>>> you are wearing right now, and it turned out > it > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > not suitable for > > > > > > > > > > >>>> me when I was about to buy one. What happened > > > > > > > > > yesterday I consider > > > > > > > > > > >>>> it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it > for > > > > > > > > > few months. (If I > > > > > > > > > > >>>> suddenly disappear from list it will mean that > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > was a wrong > > > > > > > > > > >>>> decision > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Anyway, please give me your birth data. I > would > > > > > > > > > like to look at > > > > > > > > > > >>>> whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to > > > > > > > > > take it just as an > > > > > > > > > > >>>> opinion. As I have said on the beginning of > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > thread I am not > > > > > > > > > > >>>> quite skilled with this issue, so have this > > > > > > > > > > >>>> in mind (Though it was > > > > > > > > > > >>>> not so difficult for me to say that ruby is > > > > > > > > proper > > > > > > > > > > >>>> gemstone for > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not > so > > > > > > > > > confusing as they > > > > > > > > > > >>>> often could be in various charts. When > > > > > > > > positions > > > > > > > > > in chart are > > > > > > > > > > >>>> complicated I choose to say " I don't know " > > > > > > > > rather > > > > > > > > > than to ruin > > > > > > > > > > >>>> someone's life.) > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Maja > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> , Sunil > > > > > > > > > Sharma > > > > > > > > > > >>>> <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Dear Maja, > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > I have been reading each and every message > on > > > > > > > > > this thread and, at > > > > > > > > > > >>>> the outset, was surprised to read about > > > > > > > > Neeraj's > > > > > > > > > observations. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> However, things became quite clear later on > > > > > > > > > especially with your > > > > > > > > > > >>>> comments on antardasha. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Your very last sentence in your last mail > > > > > > > > (even > > > > > > > > > though chandra is > > > > > > > > > > >>>> not lording my trines) caught my attention. > > > > > > > > > Debilitated chandra (in > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my > > > > > > > > > chart with exalted > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu > > > > > > > > conjoining > > > > > > > > > moon in > > > > > > > > > > >>>> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th > > > > > > > > > > >>>> house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY > > > > > > > > > > >>>> or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > net result is > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already > > > > > > > > > afflicted due to > > > > > > > > > > >>>> debilitation) is afflicted. All this is > > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > I have been told > > > > > > > > > > >>>> by various astrologers (not necessarily all at > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > same time). > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and > > > > > > > > Diamond > > > > > > > > > to me. I am still > > > > > > > > > > >>>> wearing diamond in silver ring on my right > hand > > > > > > > > > ring finger > > > > > > > > > > >>>> (presently going through Venus dasha), and > > > > > > > > Coral > > > > > > > > > in gold pendant in > > > > > > > > > > >>>> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring > earlier > > > > > > > > > but changed it to a > > > > > > > > > > >>>> pendant and wore it in the neck in a black > > > > > > > > string. > > > > > > > > > I have since > > > > > > > > > > >>>> removed it but I must say that whenever I wear > > > > > > > > > Pearl it quietens my > > > > > > > > > > >>>> temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any > > > > > > > > > improvement in my > > > > > > > > > > >>>> career or financial aspects. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Now, my real question to you is > > > > > > > > > > >>>> this. Moon being afflicted and > > > > > > > > > > >>>> left hand to be used (for the effect to be > > > > > > > > > reduced), I should > > > > > > > > > > >>>> have > > > > > > > > > > >>>> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? > You > > > > > > > > > may take few days to > > > > > > > > > > >>>> reply! I am not in a hurry. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Regards > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro > > > > > > > > > <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > > > > > Gemstones (Swami) > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Namaste dear Swami, > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra > > > > > > > > > being unfavorable > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Graha > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > in this chart, those mentioned were the only > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > I could find (and > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > that was after quite some time spent in > > > > > > > > serious > > > > > > > > > thinking). It is > > > > > > > > > > >>>> my > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > mistake to " equalize " effects of Rudra and > > > > > > > > > Maheshvara in Shula > > > > > > > > > > >>>> dasa > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > somewhere in my > > > > > > > > > > >>>> memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I > > > > > > > > did > > > > > > > > > > >>>> say > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any > > > > > > > > > > >>>> significance to wear gemstone > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > So far I was informed about just a few rules > > > > > > > > > regarding determining > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I > > > > > > > > thought > > > > > > > > > that Ketu/Rahu > > > > > > > > > > >>>> could > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > reverse counting only in case if it is in > 8th > > > > > > > > > from AK or if Rahu > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful > > > > > > > > > information about this > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > issue. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > received one > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: > > > > > > > > > silver ring with a > > > > > > > > > > >>>> pearl > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > and matching silver pectoral also decorated > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > pearls. What is > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > this today...? I was never this much > involved > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > any thread so > > > > > > > > > > >>>> far. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > WhateverÃ¥ I do have a plan to wear it, even > > > > > > > > > though Chandra is not > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > lording my trines. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Maja > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > --- In > > > > > > > > > > >>>> , " swami " > > > > > > > > <swami@> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om, > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Dear Maja, > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Your insights are great, incidently I was > > > > > > > > > struck at your > > > > > > > > > > >>>> mention > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I > > > > > > > > > don't think > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > > > > > > > significance) . > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I could not understand How sukra is > > > > > > > > > maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu > > > > > > > > > > >>>> as > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar planet . that also is appears > > > > > > > > incorrect. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with > ketu > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > count to 8 th > > > > > > > > > > >>>> would > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc > leads > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > Leo. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > The sign lord is SUN. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN > > > > > > > > > becomes Brahma Planet. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > 12 th from Sun > > > > > > > > > > >>>> the > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > maheswar. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Eight > > > > > > > > > > >>>> lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > We apply parashar strength to determne > > > > > > > > > strenth.Ketu and jup are > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > per naisargic bal > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Jup > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > is Maheswar. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 > > > > > > > > sutra. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is > > > > > > > > > discussed. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih > > > > > > > > > knowledge .So Gem stone of > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > planet that is maheswar if put in left > should > > > > > > > > > diminish > > > > > > > > > > >>>> knowledge.If > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > worn in Right hand should enhance learning > of > > > > > > > > > vedic shahstra. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Perhaps native has tried many gems. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > By the way, influence of wearing planet > > > > > > > > > related to maheshwar is > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > access, so this > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > last suggestion may be taken just a logical > > > > > > > > > > >>>> aplication. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > with regards. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > OM TATSAT > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- - -- > - > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > -- --------- > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Swami_RCS > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------- -- > - > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > ----- -------- > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious > > > > > > > > effulgence > > > > > > > > > of that Divine > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Being > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > who has created the three worlds.May He > > > > > > > > Direct > > > > > > > > > our understanding. " > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------- -- > - > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > ----- --------- -------- > > > > > > > > > > >>>> -- > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > - > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > - > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > majastrbacastro > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > > > > > > > > > Gemstones > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?), > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing > > > > > > > > > zircon on his left > > > > > > > > > > >>>> hand, > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > so > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that means he was weakening his lord of > > > > > > > > > > >>>> 10th bhava in 9th... > > > > > > > > > > >>>> And > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd > > > > > > > > > bhava (which is > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > considered > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also > > > > > > > > > maheshvara.. . but I don't > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > think > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any > > > > > > > > > significance) . > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > I really dislike complicating simple > > > > > > > > things, > > > > > > > > > but this time I > > > > > > > > > > >>>> can > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > not > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in > > > > > > > > > Dhanu, yet Mithuna is > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Guru in it. That > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > means > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his > > > > > > > > > Arudha Lagna. 12th > > > > > > > > > > >>>> lord > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from > > > > > > > > Arudha > > > > > > > > > Lagna signifies > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. > > > > > > > > > These are just > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> thoughts... > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Maja > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > >>>> , RKM > > > > > > > > > <rajeevmundra@ > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Dear Neeraj > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in > > > > > > > > 9th > > > > > > > > > house which is a > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Royal > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have > > > > > > > > > helped you grow in your > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > career. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very > > > > > > > > > suitable. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Moon. -ve. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve > > > > > > > > > (but ok if malefic > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > debiliated in 12th > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > house) > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > >>>> of 8th house. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and > > > > > > > > relatively > > > > > > > > > unafflicted is > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > working > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > the > > > > > > > > > > >>>> best. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Suns stone would probably give you > > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > > health and overall > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > luck. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > But venus will cause growth in career. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Ã'Ã...ò Ã'à " Ã0/00Ã'à " Ã?Ã'à " f > > > > > > > > > Ã'à " ´Ã'à " Æ'Ã'à " ²Ã'à " ¬Ã'à " Ã? > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > RKM > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda > > > > > > > > > krsna > > > > > > > > > > >>>> <yasodakrsna@ > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj, > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of > > > > > > > > SJC > > > > > > > > > have made error. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Particularly in my case was > > > > > > > > recommended > > > > > > > > > Coral by one, > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Ruby > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > by > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > two. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by > > > > > > > > > > >>>> recommended quality > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > gemologist. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > internet > > > > > > > > > > >>>> questions > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > but > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > by paid > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > services. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The good thing was the price of gold > > > > > > > > > soared and made good > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > money > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > by selling > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath > > > > > > > > recommendation > > > > > > > > > of yellow > > > > > > > > > > >>>> sapphire > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > as > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > it works. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their > > > > > > > > > Devata for the > > > > > > > > > > >>>> prediction > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > to > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > be true. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Yasoda. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than > > > > > > > > > gemstone if sincere > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ > > > > > > > > 2000@> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > vedic astrology@ . com; > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Choosing Gemstones > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > It's been more than four years that I > > > > > > > > > studied > > > > > > > > > > >>>> different > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > books on > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstones > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > and got advise from different good > > > > > > > > > astrologers about the > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > gemstone. But none > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > of them gave very good result. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > As of now, some of the following > > > > > > > > > theories are present for > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > choosing > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > gemstone. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord > > > > > > > > > > >>>> (recommended by many > > > > > > > > > > >>>> astrologers) > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, > > > > > > > > 5, > > > > > > > > > and 9) - Anukool > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool) > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > However, I recently found that one > > > > > > > > > gemstone worked very > > > > > > > > > > >>>> well > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > for > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > me. After > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wearing that I got a very good > > > > > > > > results > > > > > > > > > in my career and > > > > > > > > > > >>>> also > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > my > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > income > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > increased by more than 100% in > > > > > > > > approx. 4 > > > > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not > > > > > > > > recommended > > > > > > > > > to me by any > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > astrologer > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > (though I > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > consulted several ones in person) and > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > no such book it > > > > > > > > > > >>>> was > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > mentioned that > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > I should choose this gemstone. I read > > > > > > > > > approximately 8-10 > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > books > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > on gem > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I > > > > > > > > > was not advised to > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > wear > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > this gemstone. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, > > > > > > > > > Yellow Sapphire and > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Red > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Coral > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > by > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > different astrologers. One even > > > > > > > > advised > > > > > > > > > blue sapphire, > > > > > > > > > > >>>> that > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > made > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > matters > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > worse. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > then I will tell > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > gem > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > stone that > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > worked for me. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978 > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA) > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon > > > > > > > > > (Substitute of > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Diamond). > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > I > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > worn this in > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and > > > > > > > > things > > > > > > > > > started working > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > positive > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing > > > > > > > > > exceptional in > > > > > > > > > > >>>> my > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > personal / work > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be > > > > > > > > > noted. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. It's not lord of > > > > > > > > > > >>>> trines. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not > > > > > > > > running. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Still, it gave me good results. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way > > > > > > > > > that may be tried > > > > > > > > > > >>>> if > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > some > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > to try. Please share your results, so > > > > > > > > > that we can know > > > > > > > > > > >>>> more > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > about this. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in > > > > > > > > 1,5,9 > > > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If > > > > > > > > > any of the planets > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > that > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > were in 1,5,9 > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > house moves to > > > > > > > > > > >>>> some other house, ignore that planet. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines > > > > > > > > > (1,5,9) in both natal > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > chart > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > and > > > > > > > > > > >>>> bhava > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore > > > > > > > > rahu, > > > > > > > > > ketu) > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found > > > > > > > > till > > > > > > > > > step 3 is > > > > > > > > > > >>>> benefic > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > for > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > your > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > main gemstone of > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > that > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > planet and > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > wear it in the right hand. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > was found in > > > > > > > > > > >>>> step > > > > > > > > > > >>>> 3 > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > is > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > malefic, > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > then choose the substitute gem for > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > planet and wear > > > > > > > > > > >>>> it > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > in > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > the left hand. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > The above was just a thought that came to my > > > > > > > > > mind and if > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > some > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > one wants to > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > try it, they may do so for > > > > > > > > experiment. > > > > > > > > > Kindly share with > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > other > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > members, if > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > this method works for you. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > > > > > > > > Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember > Akbar > > > > > > > > > the Great who said > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> that the human > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > stomach should not become a graveyard for > > > > > > > > > animals. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - > do > > > > > > > > > one free chart > > > > > > > > > > >>>> reading > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > today > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Links > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > > > > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari > > > > > > > > Mantra 'Hare > > > > > > > > > Rama Krishna' > > > > > > > > > > >>>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Great who said that the human > > > > > > > > > > >>>> stomach should not become a graveyard for > > > > > > > > animals. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > free chart reading > > > > > > > > > > >>>> today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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