FAILED PREDICTIONS WHERE DBAS WERE SIGNIFYING MATTER BUT EVENT NOT HAPPENED

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Friends,

As every astrologer says that he uses to predict very correctly and

accurately and hence there is no possibility of recording of FAILED PREDICTIONS

WHERE DBAS WERE SIGNIFYING MATTERS BUT EVENT NOT HAPPENED will be there.

But As Sundarji gave the example regarding marriage and his contention is

that transit of DBAS was not fully. There may be certain events predicted by

all of us where event was not happened within the predicted time span or where

we boldly predicted not happening of tghe event but the event happened.

I now request all kp astrologers to give atleast 5 cases where above type

of events predicted but not happened and not predicted but happened. I wish to

collect the data and we will try to find what was the missing link if any.

PREAMBLE OF THIS SURVEY :

1. We will never change the chart nor the data including RBT prepared by the

astrologer.

2. We will only retabulate in specific manner which we regularly use in KP

system.

3. No comments on these data base by other members in the forum till the final

declaration of analysis. But the data will be available in the forum as it is.

When we will reach particular decision, then everybody has a say to it.

4. Every database or chart given in this analysis is authentic.

5. Date of happened event will be given by the kp astrologer who submits the

data to the forum with timiing if any. Also if there is recording of time when

that particular chart was taken for prediction.

6. Data of the event may be posted to forum but the charts prepared by

individiual astrologer be given to " guide_vijayanand " as

attachment. It enables us not to use the capacity given for this forum occupied

by these database charts.

7. Any astrologer can give the details where he had the knowledge of event

materialised with date, but by his study in KP if that event is not shown from

the horoscope.

REQUIRED DATA FOR THIS ANALYSIS

1. No name is necessary but Name of astrologer and chart No is necessary.

2. Date of birth or date of Horary question

3. Time of birth or time of Horary question

4. Place of birth or place of where horary question was predicted.

5. Longitude of the place of birth/place of Horary query.

6. Latitude of the place of birth/place of Horary query.

7. Time zone or summer timing (if birth /horary is not solved in India)

8. Which thing was predicted and what time period was predicted.

9. Whether the thing predicted was happened and if yes when? and if no,

afterwards when it had happened.

10. When we predicted that particular thing will not happen, but the event was

happened, then give the time of happening of the event.

 

Our intention in analysing these data base is only to help the masses with

only correct predictions in the future.

 

If anyone go through it, all confusions in everyones mind will be come to

an end. Because we are to tally why the event was happened and why the event

was not happened.

 

I expect full and warm cooperation from everyone of the forum.

 

Without any prejudiced mind, every constructive comments will highly be

appreciated.

 

Regards

Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, The Scientific Socy.for Research

and Devt. in Astrology, Kolhapur, Maharashtra,India

Cell No. +91 9422582853/+91 9673746303

write me to : guide_vijayanand

 

CC: Shri Punit Pandeyji, I request you to float this analysis into the forum. It

will definately help particularly new kp learners about what we use to omit and

what the mistakes we comit.

Regards

Vijayanand Patil,

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote:

>

> Dear Sundar,

>                     The Dasa-lord's transit is a must...because if the

Dasa-lord does not permit,or be a significator, else...the Bhukti Anthara and

Sookshma lords are not powerful enough to give the results by themselves...

>                     With best wishes,

>                     Yogesh Lajmi.

>         

>

> --- On Mon, 11/2/09, TW <tw853 wrote:

>

>

> TW <tw853

> Re: Post mortem analysis of marriage

>

> Monday, November 2, 2009, 1:30 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28496?threaded= 1

> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28490

>

> @gro ups.com, " Sundar " <sundar190561@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Yogesh Ji

> >

> > What I wanted to know is following

> >

> > a. Whether DBAS should transit thru any significators of 2,7,11

> >

> > B. Whether DBAS should transit thru DBAS only (sgl/stl/sl) . In the example

below, the native was going thru rahu/ketu/venus. Ketu & venus transited thru

Rahu sub,which is the Antar dasha. Rest of the two ketu/rahu is did not transit

their star/sub.

> >

> > Thanks....Sundar

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sundar,

> > >                   Pl. examine the s/l of the Vth cusp...it os SUN which

conjoins Venus,and signifies XI ,but Sun & Venus the karaka for love and

marriage,conjoin in the XIth house...you will then understand how it was a

love-marriage etc.

> > >                  Yogesh Lajmi

> > >                                       GOOD LUCK !

> > >

> > > --- On Sun, 11/1/09, Sundar <sundar190561@ > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Sundar <sundar190561@ >

> > > Post mortem analysis of marriage

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Sunday, November 1, 2009, 5:29 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Learned members

> > >

> > > My neighbour go married on 21st Oct, 2009 between 9 to 10am. The transit

of DBAS does not fully signify the event fully.

> > >

> > > dob: 25th Aug, 1979

> > > tob: 9.37 (rectified)

> > > pob: Mumbai

> > >

> > > Time of birth reported is 9.22am

> > > Ayanamsha : 23.28.58

> > >

> > > dasha/bukti/ antra

> > >

> > > planet sgl stl sl

> > > (MD)rahu(11) sun(11,12) venus(11,2-9) venus(11,2-9)

> > > (AD)ketu(5) sat(12,5-6) rahu(11) venus(11,2-9)

> > > (PAD)venus(11, 2-9) sun(11,12) ketu(5) jupiter(11,4- 7)

> > >

> > > rahu=sun(11, 12)

> > > ketu=saturn( 12,5-6)

> > >

> > > Marriage on 21st October 2009 between 9 am to 10 am

> > >

> > > planet sgl stl sl

> > > (MD)rahu(4) sat(12,5-6) sun(1,12) jupiter(5,4- 7)

> > > (AD)ketu(10) moon(2,11) jupiter(5,4- 7) rahu-MD(4)

> > > (PAD)venus(12, 2-9) mer(1,1-10) moon(2,11) rahu-MD(4)

> > >

> > > sun venus(12,2-9) mars(10,3-8) venus(12,2-9)

> > > moon mars(10,3-8) sat(12,5-6) venus(12,2-9)

> > >

> > > Baed on the above it is seen that MD/AD/PAD does not fully signify DBAS

(except for ketu, which is rahu's sub.

> > >

> > > In the light of the above how do we reconcile the timing of marriage.

> > >

> > > Thanks...... ...Sundar

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

It has been found one article looking back the reason for failure of 4

preditions in KP & Astrology 2005, article no. 18. Inference from a Honest

Retrospection by Prof. Rajendra Kumar, pages 50-52.

http://www.webspawner.com/users/astroclinic2/logy2005.html

 

 

, " guide " <guide_vijayanand

wrote:

>

> Friends,

> As every astrologer says that he uses to predict very correctly and

accurately and hence there is no possibility of recording of FAILED PREDICTIONS

WHERE DBAS WERE SIGNIFYING MATTERS BUT EVENT NOT HAPPENED will be there.

> But As Sundarji gave the example regarding marriage and his contention is

that transit of DBAS was not fully. There may be certain events predicted by

all of us where event was not happened within the predicted time span or where

we boldly predicted not happening of tghe event but the event happened.

> I now request all kp astrologers to give atleast 5 cases where above type

of events predicted but not happened and not predicted but happened. I wish to

collect the data and we will try to find what was the missing link if any.

> PREAMBLE OF THIS SURVEY :

> 1. We will never change the chart nor the data including RBT prepared by the

astrologer.

> 2. We will only retabulate in specific manner which we regularly use in KP

system.

> 3. No comments on these data base by other members in the forum till the

final declaration of analysis. But the data will be available in the forum as it

is. When we will reach particular decision, then everybody has a say to it.

> 4. Every database or chart given in this analysis is authentic.

> 5. Date of happened event will be given by the kp astrologer who submits the

data to the forum with timiing if any. Also if there is recording of time when

that particular chart was taken for prediction.

> 6. Data of the event may be posted to forum but the charts prepared by

individiual astrologer be given to " guide_vijayanand " as attachment.

It enables us not to use the capacity given for this forum occupied by these

database charts.

> 7. Any astrologer can give the details where he had the knowledge of event

materialised with date, but by his study in KP if that event is not shown from

the horoscope.

> REQUIRED DATA FOR THIS ANALYSIS

> 1. No name is necessary but Name of astrologer and chart No is necessary.

> 2. Date of birth or date of Horary question

> 3. Time of birth or time of Horary question

> 4. Place of birth or place of where horary question was predicted.

> 5. Longitude of the place of birth/place of Horary query.

> 6. Latitude of the place of birth/place of Horary query.

> 7. Time zone or summer timing (if birth /horary is not solved in India)

> 8. Which thing was predicted and what time period was predicted.

> 9. Whether the thing predicted was happened and if yes when? and if no,

afterwards when it had happened.

> 10. When we predicted that particular thing will not happen, but the event

was happened, then give the time of happening of the event.

>

> Our intention in analysing these data base is only to help the masses

with only correct predictions in the future.

>

> If anyone go through it, all confusions in everyones mind will be come to

an end. Because we are to tally why the event was happened and why the event

was not happened.

>

> I expect full and warm cooperation from everyone of the forum.

>

> Without any prejudiced mind, every constructive comments will highly be

appreciated.

>

> Regards

> Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, The Scientific Socy.for Research

and Devt. in Astrology, Kolhapur, Maharashtra,India

> Cell No. +91 9422582853/+91 9673746303

> write me to : guide_vijayanand

>

> CC: Shri Punit Pandeyji, I request you to float this analysis into the forum.

It will definately help particularly new kp learners about what we use to omit

and what the mistakes we comit.

> Regards

> Vijayanand Patil,

, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sundar,

> >                     The Dasa-lord's transit is a must...because if the

Dasa-lord does not permit,or be a significator, else...the Bhukti Anthara and

Sookshma lords are not powerful enough to give the results by themselves...

> >                     With best wishes,

> >                     Yogesh Lajmi.

> >         

> >

> > --- On Mon, 11/2/09, TW <tw853@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > TW <tw853@>

> > Re: Post mortem analysis of marriage

> >

> > Monday, November 2, 2009, 1:30 PM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28496?threaded= 1

> > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28490

> >

> > @gro ups.com, " Sundar " <sundar190561@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Yogesh Ji

> > >

> > > What I wanted to know is following

> > >

> > > a. Whether DBAS should transit thru any significators of 2,7,11

> > >

> > > B. Whether DBAS should transit thru DBAS only (sgl/stl/sl) . In the

example below, the native was going thru rahu/ketu/venus. Ketu & venus transited

thru Rahu sub,which is the Antar dasha. Rest of the two ketu/rahu is did not

transit their star/sub.

> > >

> > > Thanks....Sundar

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sundar,

> > > >                   Pl. examine the s/l of the Vth cusp...it os SUN which

conjoins Venus,and signifies XI ,but Sun & Venus the karaka for love and

marriage,conjoin in the XIth house...you will then understand how it was a

love-marriage etc.

> > > >                  Yogesh Lajmi

> > > >                                       GOOD LUCK !

> > > >

> > > > --- On Sun, 11/1/09, Sundar <sundar190561@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sundar <sundar190561@ >

> > > > Post mortem analysis of marriage

> > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > Sunday, November 1, 2009, 5:29 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Learned members

> > > >

> > > > My neighbour go married on 21st Oct, 2009 between 9 to 10am. The transit

of DBAS does not fully signify the event fully.

> > > >

> > > > dob: 25th Aug, 1979

> > > > tob: 9.37 (rectified)

> > > > pob: Mumbai

> > > >

> > > > Time of birth reported is 9.22am

> > > > Ayanamsha : 23.28.58

> > > >

> > > > dasha/bukti/ antra

> > > >

> > > > planet sgl stl sl

> > > > (MD)rahu(11) sun(11,12) venus(11,2-9) venus(11,2-9)

> > > > (AD)ketu(5) sat(12,5-6) rahu(11) venus(11,2-9)

> > > > (PAD)venus(11, 2-9) sun(11,12) ketu(5) jupiter(11,4- 7)

> > > >

> > > > rahu=sun(11, 12)

> > > > ketu=saturn( 12,5-6)

> > > >

> > > > Marriage on 21st October 2009 between 9 am to 10 am

> > > >

> > > > planet sgl stl sl

> > > > (MD)rahu(4) sat(12,5-6) sun(1,12) jupiter(5,4- 7)

> > > > (AD)ketu(10) moon(2,11) jupiter(5,4- 7) rahu-MD(4)

> > > > (PAD)venus(12, 2-9) mer(1,1-10) moon(2,11) rahu-MD(4)

> > > >

> > > > sun venus(12,2-9) mars(10,3-8) venus(12,2-9)

> > > > moon mars(10,3-8) sat(12,5-6) venus(12,2-9)

> > > >

> > > > Baed on the above it is seen that MD/AD/PAD does not fully signify DBAS

(except for ketu, which is rahu's sub.

> > > >

> > > > In the light of the above how do we reconcile the timing of marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks...... ...Sundar

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Friends,

 

For correct predictions, there are many rules by which we select suitable DBAs & come to some particular period, but specifically in case of selection of Bhikthi & Anthra the D,B lords must be Ruling Planets.

 

If some Dasa or Bhukthi lord is fulfilling all rules except being a RP, it can't materialise the event. Many astrologers seem to be giving more importance to DBA lords being significators of the event. In Late Suresh Shahasane's book, "Krishnamurti Jyotish Rahasya" there is a rule that some times some particular Bhukthi or Anthra lord can't fulfil other requirements but it is a strong RP. In such cases the astrologer is required to select this Bhukthi or Anthra (even though its lord is not signifying the event) If such things happen at the time of judgement, it indicates that the event will materialise but there will be a big unfortunate thing as indicated by this lord in coming future.

 

I would like to suggest to all astrologers that if their prediction goes wrong, they should check if there is some very unfortunate thing happened after the main event materialisation. I saw Sujata ji's chart & discussions about it & realised the same thing. In her case also the the marriage was done during unsuitable periods, most probably the RPs must have changed the picture.

 

Few days back I had posted same rule ( & doubt about it- whether it can be accepted as original or not) but no one responded to it.

 

Thanks & regards.

 

Vishram Deshpande

 

 

 

guide <guide_vijayanand Sent: Tue, 3 November, 2009 6:03:42 PM FAILED PREDICTIONS WHERE DBAS WERE SIGNIFYING MATTER BUT EVENT NOT HAPPENED

Friends,As every astrologer says that he uses to predict very correctly and accurately and hence there is no possibility of recording of FAILED PREDICTIONS WHERE DBAS WERE SIGNIFYING MATTERS BUT EVENT NOT HAPPENED will be there.But As Sundarji gave the example regarding marriage and his contention is that transit of DBAS was not fully. There may be certain events predicted by all of us where event was not happened within the predicted time span or where we boldly predicted not happening of tghe event but the event happened.I now request all kp astrologers to give atleast 5 cases where above type of events predicted but not happened and not predicted but happened. I wish to collect the data and we will try to find what was the missing link if any. PREAMBLE OF THIS SURVEY :1. We will never change the chart nor the data including RBT prepared by the astrologer.2. We will only retabulate in specific manner which we regularly use in

KP system.3. No comments on these data base by other members in the forum till the final declaration of analysis. But the data will be available in the forum as it is. When we will reach particular decision, then everybody has a say to it.4. Every database or chart given in this analysis is authentic.5. Date of happened event will be given by the kp astrologer who submits the data to the forum with timiing if any. Also if there is recording of time when that particular chart was taken for prediction.6. Data of the event may be posted to forum but the charts prepared by individiual astrologer be given to "guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com" as attachment. It enables us not to use the capacity given for this forum occupied by these database charts.7. Any astrologer can give the

details where he had the knowledge of event materialised with date, but by his study in KP if that event is not shown from the horoscope.REQUIRED DATA FOR THIS ANALYSIS1. No name is necessary but Name of astrologer and chart No is necessary.2. Date of birth or date of Horary question3. Time of birth or time of Horary question4. Place of birth or place of where horary question was predicted.5. Longitude of the place of birth/place of Horary query.6. Latitude of the place of birth/place of Horary query.7. Time zone or summer timing (if birth /horary is not solved in India)8. Which thing was predicted and what time period was predicted.9. Whether the thing predicted was happened and if yes when? and if no, afterwards when it had happened.10. When we predicted that particular thing will not happen, but the event was happened, then give the time of happening of the event.Our intention in analysing these

data base is only to help the masses with only correct predictions in the future.If anyone go through it, all confusions in everyones mind will be come to an end. Because we are to tally why the event was happened and why the event was not happened.I expect full and warm cooperation from everyone of the forum.Without any prejudiced mind, every constructive comments will highly be appreciated.RegardsVijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, The Scientific Socy.for Research and Devt. in Astrology, Kolhapur, Maharashtra, IndiaCell No. +91 9422582853/+ 91 9673746303write me to : guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. comCC: Shri Punit Pandeyji, I request you to float this analysis into the forum. It will definately help particularly new kp learners about what we

use to omit and what the mistakes we comit.RegardsVijayanand Patil, @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sundar,> The Dasa-lord's transit is a must...because if the Dasa-lord does not permit,or be a significator, else...the Bhukti Anthara and Sookshma lords are not powerful enough to give the results by themselves.. .> With best wishes,> Yogesh Lajmi.>

> > --- On Mon, 11/2/09, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: Post mortem analysis of marriage> @gro ups.com> Monday, November 2, 2009, 1:30 PM> > > > > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28496?threaded= 1> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28490> > @gro ups.com, "Sundar" <sundar190561@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Yogesh Ji> > > > What I wanted to know is

following> > > > a. Whether DBAS should transit thru any significators of 2,7,11> > > > B. Whether DBAS should transit thru DBAS only (sgl/stl/sl) . In the example below, the native was going thru rahu/ketu/venus. Ketu & venus transited thru Rahu sub,which is the Antar dasha. Rest of the two ketu/rahu is did not transit their star/sub.> > > > Thanks....Sundar > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sundar,> > > Pl. examine the s/l of the Vth cusp...it os SUN which conjoins Venus,and signifies XI ,but Sun & Venus the karaka for love and marriage,conjoin in the XIth house...you will then understand how it was a love-marriage

etc.> > > Yogesh Lajmi> > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > --- On Sun, 11/1/09, Sundar <sundar190561@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > Sundar <sundar190561@ >> > > Post mortem analysis of marriage> > > @gro ups.com> > > Sunday, November 1, 2009, 5:29 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned members> > > > >

> My neighbour go married on 21st Oct, 2009 between 9 to 10am. The transit of DBAS does not fully signify the event fully.> > > > > > dob: 25th Aug, 1979> > > tob: 9.37 (rectified)> > > pob: Mumbai> > > > > > Time of birth reported is 9.22am> > > Ayanamsha : 23.28.58> > > > > > dasha/bukti/ antra> > > > > > planet sgl stl sl > > > (MD)rahu(11) sun(11,12) venus(11,2-9) venus(11,2-9) > > > (AD)ketu(5) sat(12,5-6) rahu(11) venus(11,2-9)> > > (PAD)venus(11, 2-9) sun(11,12) ketu(5) jupiter(11,4- 7)> > > > > > rahu=sun(11, 12)> > > ketu=saturn( 12,5-6)> > > > > > Marriage on 21st October 2009 between 9 am to 10 am> > > > > > planet sgl stl sl > > > (MD)rahu(4) sat(12,5-6)

sun(1,12) jupiter(5,4- 7)> > > (AD)ketu(10) moon(2,11) jupiter(5,4- 7) rahu-MD(4)> > > (PAD)venus(12, 2-9) mer(1,1-10) moon(2,11) rahu-MD(4)> > > > > > sun venus(12,2-9) mars(10,3-8) venus(12,2-9)> > > moon mars(10,3-8) sat(12,5-6) venus(12,2-9)> > > > > > Baed on the above it is seen that MD/AD/PAD does not fully signify DBAS (except for ketu, which is rahu's sub.> > > > > > In the light of the above how do we reconcile the timing of marriage.> > > > > > Thanks...... ...Sundar> > >> >>

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Friends

Firstly I will be very grateful to Punitji who has permitted this subject to enter into the forum and also TWJi who has given link of KP and Astrology yearbook 2005.

While puting this to the forum it has been already decided not to comment on anything including post martem study or probable reasons for wrong predictions like use of ruling planets, transit of DBAs and other like reasons. Because we are not auditors but this audit is solely meant for the improvement of every rule which in itself proved for thousands a time.

I salute Mr. Rajendraji who had given article in KP and astrology 2005 with 4 cases. It requres a great courage to tell about the wrong predictions in general.

I expect atleast 5 cases honestly by everyone and that helps not only others but especially for ourselves to be very cautious in future.

With regards and expecting huge response in terms of charts. Every chart will teach us something.

Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision

 

 

On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:35:42 +0530 wrote

>

 

Dear Friends,

 

For correct predictions, there are many rules by which we select suitable DBAs come to some particular period, but specifically in case of selection of Bhikthi Anthra the D,B lords must be Ruling Planets.

 

If some Dasa or Bhukthi lord is fulfilling all rules except being a RP,it can't materialise the event. Many astrologers seem to be giving more importance to DBA lords being significatorsof the event. In Late Suresh Shahasane's book, "Krishnamurti Jyotish Rahasya" there is a rule that some times some particular Bhukthi or Anthra lord can't fulfil other requirements but it is a strong RP. In such cases the astrologer is required to select this Bhukthior Anthra (even though its lord is not signifying the event) If such things happen at the time of judgement, it indicates that the event will materialise but there will be a big unfortunate thing as indicated by this lord in coming future.

 

I would like to suggest to all astrologers that if their prediction goes wrong, they should check if there is some very unfortunate thing happened after the main event materialisation. I saw Sujata ji's chart discussions about it realised the same thing. In her case also the the marriage was done during unsuitable periods, most probably the RPs must have changed the picture.

 

Few days back I had posted same rule ( doubt about it- whether it can be accepted as original or not) but no one responded to it.

 

Thanks regards.

 

Vishram Deshpande

>

 

>

 

 

guide

>

>Tue, 3 November, 2009 6:03:42 PM

> FAILED PREDICTIONS WHERE DBAS WERE SIGNIFYING MATTER BUT EVENT NOT HAPPENED

>

>

 

Friends,

>As every astrologer says that he uses to predict very correctly and accurately and hence there is no possibility of recording of FAILED PREDICTIONS WHERE DBAS WERE SIGNIFYING MATTERS BUT EVENT NOT HAPPENED will be there.

>But As Sundarji gave the example regarding marriage and his contention is that transit of DBAS was not fully. There may be certain events predicted by all of us where event was not happened within the predicted time span or where we boldly predicted not happening of tghe event but the event happened.

>I now request all kp astrologers to give atleast 5 cases where above type of events predicted but not happened and not predicted but happened. I wish to collect the data and we will try to find what was the missing link if any.

>PREAMBLE OF THIS SURVEY :

>1. We will never change the chart nor the data including RBT prepared by the astrologer.

>2. We will only retabulate in specific manner which we regularly use in

KP system.

>3. No comments on these data base by other members in the forum till the final declaration of analysis. But the data will be available in the forum as it is. When we will reach particular decision, then everybody has a say to it.

>4. Every database or chart given in this analysis is authentic.

>5. Date of happened event will be given by the kp astrologer who submits the data to the forum with timiing if any. Also if there is recording of time when that particular chart was taken for prediction.

>6. Data of the event may be posted to forum but the charts prepared by individiual astrologer be given to "guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com" as attachment. It enables us not to use the capacity given for this forum occupied by these database charts.

>7. Any astrologer can give the

details where he had the knowledge of event materialised with date, but by his study in KP if that event is not shown from the horoscope.

>REQUIRED DATA FOR THIS ANALYSIS

>1. No name is necessary but Name of astrologer and chart No is necessary.

>2. Date of birth or date of Horary question

>3. Time of birth or time of Horary question

>4. Place of birth or place of where horary question was predicted.

>5. Longitude of the place of birth/place of Horary query.

>6. Latitude of the place of birth/place of Horary query.

>7. Time zone or summer timing (if birth /horary is not solved in India)

>8. Which thing was predicted and what time period was predicted.

>9. Whether the thing predicted was happened and if yes when? and if no, afterwards when it had happened.

>10. When we predicted that particular thing will not happen, but the event was happened, then give the time of happening of the event.

>

>Our intention in analysing these

data base is only to help the masses with only correct predictions in the future.

>

>If anyone go through it, all confusions in everyones mind will be come to an end. Because we are to tally why the event was happened and why the event was not happened.

>

>I expect full and warm cooperation from everyone of the forum.

>

>Without any prejudiced mind, every constructive comments will highly be appreciated.

>

>Regards

>Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, The Scientific Socy.for Research and Devt. in Astrology, Kolhapur, Maharashtra, India

>Cell No. +91 9422582853/+ 91 9673746303

>write me to : guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com

>

>CC: Shri Punit Pandeyji, I request you to float this analysis into the forum. It will definately help particularly new kp learners about what we

use to omit and what the mistakes we comit.

>Regards

>Vijayanand Patil,

>

>@gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi wrote:

>>

>> Dear Sundar,

>> The Dasa-lord's transit is a must...because if the Dasa-lord does not permit,or be a significator, else...the Bhukti Anthara and Sookshma lords are not powerful enough to give the results by themselves.. .

>> With best wishes,

>> Yogesh Lajmi.

>>

 

>>

>> --- On Mon, 11/2/09, TW wrote:

>>

>>

>> TW

>> Re: Post mortem analysis of marriage

>> @gro ups.com

>> Monday, November 2, 2009, 1:30 PM

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28496?threaded= 1

>> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28490

>>

>> @gro ups.com, "Sundar" wrote:

>> >

>> > Dear Yogesh Ji

>> >

>> > What I wanted to know is

following

>> >

>> > a. Whether DBAS should transit thru any significators of 2,7,11

>> >

>> > B. Whether DBAS should transit thru DBAS only (sgl/stl/sl) . In the example below, the native was going thru rahu/ketu/venus. Ketu venus transited thru Rahu sub,which is the Antar dasha. Rest of the two ketu/rahu is did not transit their star/sub.

>> >

>> > Thanks....Sundar

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi wrote:

>> > >

>> > > Dear Sundar,

>> > > Pl. examine the s/l of the Vth cusp...it os SUN which conjoins Venus,and signifies XI ,but Sun Venus the karaka for love and marriage,conjoin in the XIth house...you will then understand how it was a love-marriage

etc.

>> > > Yogesh Lajmi

>> > > GOOD LUCK !

>> > >

>> > > --- On Sun, 11/1/09, Sundar wrote:

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > Sundar

>> > > Post mortem analysis of marriage

>> > > @gro ups.com

>> > > Sunday, November 1, 2009, 5:29 PM

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > Dear Learned members

>> > >

>> >

> My neighbour go married on 21st Oct, 2009 between 9 to 10am. The transit of DBAS does not fully signify the event fully.

>> > >

>> > > dob: 25th Aug, 1979

>> > > tob: 9.37 (rectified)

>> > > pob: Mumbai

>> > >

>> > > Time of birth reported is 9.22am

>> > > Ayanamsha : 23.28.58

>> > >

>> > > dasha/bukti/ antra

>> > >

>> > > planet sgl stl sl

>> > > (MD)rahu(11) sun(11,12) venus(11,2-9) venus(11,2-9)

>> > > (AD)ketu(5) sat(12,5-6) rahu(11) venus(11,2-9)

>> > > (PAD)venus(11, 2-9) sun(11,12) ketu(5) jupiter(11,4- 7)

>> > >

>> > > rahu=sun(11, 12)

>> > > ketu=saturn( 12,5-6)

>> > >

>> > > Marriage on 21st October 2009 between 9 am to 10 am

>> > >

>> > > planet sgl stl sl

>> > > (MD)rahu(4) sat(12,5-6)

sun(1,12) jupiter(5,4- 7)

>> > > (AD)ketu(10) moon(2,11) jupiter(5,4- 7) rahu-MD(4)

>> > > (PAD)venus(12, 2-9) mer(1,1-10) moon(2,11) rahu-MD(4)

>> > >

>> > > sun venus(12,2-9) mars(10,3-8) venus(12,2-9)

>> > > moon mars(10,3-8) sat(12,5-6) venus(12,2-9)

>> > >

>> > > Baed on the above it is seen that MD/AD/PAD does not fully signify DBAS (except for ketu, which is rahu's sub.

>> > >

>> > > In the light of the above how do we reconcile the timing of marriage.

>> > >

>> > > Thanks...... ...Sundar

>> > >

>> >

>>

>

>

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Dear members & Respected Seniors,Being a beginner in astrology, I have started reading the books of our Guruji KSK and trying to digest the information given in them into my system. In one such book which I am currently reading is "Astrosecrets & KP - Vol 1" (for the first time); I would like to turn your attention to the section - 7th Bhava where the author is discussing about Marriage.Since I don't have the book right now with me so I shall try to recollect what I had read last night. For any event to happen or fructify transit of 4 planets is necessary viz., Saturn, Mars, Sun & Moon being the luminaries.Saturn has an orbit of 30 years and the transit of Saturn to every Rasi / House happens once in 30 months. Mars has an orbit of 12 years and hence he transit every year in a Rasi. Likewise the luminaries Sun has an orbit of 12 months hence his transit is every month in a Rasi and Moon to cover all the 27/28 nakshatras it takes approx 30 days and the transit from each Rasi is about 30 hours. (Please note, in astrology Earth is stationary - which is our chart and all the rest revolve around this earth. Whereas in reality Sun is stationary).Thus for

fructification of an event these 4 are necessary but more importance is given to the luminaries as they have a shorter transit time as compared to Saturn & Mars - The same was also confirmed by Dr. Rath in one of the earlier mails. Since Mar's transit happens after 12 months and Saturn after 30 months. What all of us are concerned or ask for are the event going to happen in the next 12 months, so the luminaries becomes important - Sun & Moon. But along with this the Ruling planets of the day is also consider for the timing of the event , such as the Day Lord & the Hora lord. Thus for predicting an event various combination of the planets in the DBAS is seen or studied for fructification of an event and here my personal feeling is that to know the avastas of the planet (traditional astro)

can give us some clue. For the Sookamsa Lord to fructify the event permission has to be given by the Anthra Lord and like wise Anthra Lord will have to get the permission from Bhukti Lord which in turn from the Dasa Lord. (Permission means triggering the process / event). So if permission is not granted by one of these Lord the event can never happen, is the conclusion.An experienced / seasoned astrologer, he will give a window while predicting an event, like it will happen from so & so date to so & so date based on the combination of DBAS. But in the postmortem analysis, its much easier, as we know the event's date & time and can be easily co-related to the DBAS. And it is through such analysis, we are able to make our

predictions to a reasonable level of accuracy.Lajmi ji has done my BTR (my gratitude to him for his kind service) and has asked me to check with the events happened in my life (on going process) to see whether its tallying and this is a time consuming process as some of them might not tally, as TW ji said, BTR is time consuming process.Coming to the article under 7th bhava, the author goes to the extent to check whether the marriage is promised in the horoscope. If yes, then when it will take place ? If it takes place, will there be a child birth and how will this relationship be ? All these events are analyzed and explained very clearly.Sorry for the lengthy mail but I tried to make it simple so that beginners (like me) can understand it easily. I request the Seniors to correct me, if my understanding of the DBAS vis-a-vis timimg of an event as said above is incorrect and my apologies for the same.Is KP Astrology, a science or an art ? The

study of KP is definitely a science and any branch of science needs

constant research & postmortem analysis. But giving the correct

predictions based on the toil made on those scientific study &

research is an art. So let us develop this art of giving correct

predictions by doing research studies. Finally, I would like to conclude by saying that whatever is been promised to the native from their chart will be delivered by the DBAS lords at the right time, it is that we are not seeing the correct parameters / significators. Quest for knowledge is an ongoing process .............. the day we stop, we are brain dead.Pranams to Guruji and his KP systems.With Respects, Jai Maa

Kaali, Devbrato Sarkar"Wealth is not just about making the money BUT making the MAN while he is making money".--- On Wed, 11/4/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande wrote:Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpandeRe: FAILED PREDICTIONS WHERE DBAS WERE SIGNIFYING MATTER BUT EVENT NOT HAPPENED Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2009, 4:38 AM

 

 

Dear Friends,

 

For correct predictions, there are many rules by which we select suitable DBAs & come to some particular period, but specifically in case of selection of Bhikthi & Anthra the D,B lords must be Ruling Planets.

 

If some Dasa or Bhukthi lord is fulfilling all rules except being a RP, it can't materialise the event. Many astrologers seem to be giving more importance to DBA lords being significators of the event. In Late Suresh Shahasane's book, "Krishnamurti Jyotish Rahasya" there is a rule that some times some particular Bhukthi or Anthra lord can't fulfil other requirements but it is a strong RP. In such cases the astrologer is required to select this Bhukthi or Anthra (even though its lord is not signifying the event) If such things happen at the time of judgement, it indicates that the event will materialise but there will be a big unfortunate thing as indicated by this lord in coming future.

 

I would like to suggest to all astrologers that if their prediction goes wrong, they should check if there is some very unfortunate thing happened after the main event materialisation. I saw Sujata ji's chart & discussions about it & realised the same thing. In her case also the the marriage was done during unsuitable periods, most probably the RPs must have changed the picture.

 

Few days back I had posted same rule ( & doubt about it- whether it can be accepted as original or not) but no one responded to it.

 

Thanks & regards.

 

Vishram Deshpande

 

 

 

guide <guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com>@gro ups.comTue, 3 November, 2009 6:03:42 PM FAILED PREDICTIONS WHERE DBAS WERE SIGNIFYING MATTER BUT EVENT NOT HAPPENED

Friends,As every astrologer says that he uses to predict very correctly and accurately and hence there is no possibility of recording of FAILED PREDICTIONS WHERE DBAS WERE SIGNIFYING MATTERS BUT EVENT NOT HAPPENED will be there.But As Sundarji gave the example regarding marriage and his contention is that transit of DBAS was not fully. There may be certain events predicted by all of us where event was not happened within the predicted time span or where we boldly predicted not happening of tghe event but the event happened.I now request all kp astrologers to give atleast 5 cases where above type of events predicted but not happened and not predicted but happened. I wish to collect the data and we will try to find what was the missing link if any. PREAMBLE OF THIS SURVEY :1. We will never change the chart nor the data including RBT prepared by the astrologer.2. We will only retabulate in specific manner which we regularly use in

KP system.3. No comments on these data base by other members in the forum till the final declaration of analysis. But the data will be available in the forum as it is. When we will reach particular decision, then everybody has a say to it.4. Every database or chart given in this analysis is authentic.5. Date of happened event will be given by the kp astrologer who submits the data to the forum with timiing if any. Also if there is recording of time when that particular chart was taken for prediction.6. Data of the event may be posted to forum but the charts prepared by individiual astrologer be given to "guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com" as attachment. It enables us not to use the capacity given for this forum occupied by these database charts.7. Any astrologer can

give the

details where he had the knowledge of event materialised with date, but by his study in KP if that event is not shown from the horoscope.REQUIRED DATA FOR THIS ANALYSIS1. No name is necessary but Name of astrologer and chart No is necessary.2. Date of birth or date of Horary question3. Time of birth or time of Horary question4. Place of birth or place of where horary question was predicted.5. Longitude of the place of birth/place of Horary query.6. Latitude of the place of birth/place of Horary query.7. Time zone or summer timing (if birth /horary is not solved in India)8. Which thing was predicted and what time period was predicted.9. Whether the thing predicted was happened and if yes when? and if no, afterwards when it had happened.10. When we predicted that particular thing will not happen, but the event was happened, then give the time of happening of the event.Our intention in analysing these

data base is only to help the masses with only correct predictions in the future.If anyone go through it, all confusions in everyones mind will be come to an end. Because we are to tally why the event was happened and why the event was not happened.I expect full and warm cooperation from everyone of the forum.Without any prejudiced mind, every constructive comments will highly be appreciated.RegardsVijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, The Scientific Socy.for Research and Devt. in Astrology, Kolhapur, Maharashtra, IndiaCell No. +91 9422582853/+ 91 9673746303write me to : guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. comCC: Shri Punit Pandeyji, I request you to float this analysis into the forum. It will definately help particularly new kp learners

about what we

use to omit and what the mistakes we comit.RegardsVijayanand Patil, @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sundar,> The Dasa-lord's transit is a must...because if the Dasa-lord does not permit,or be a significator, else...the Bhukti Anthara and Sookshma lords are not powerful enough to give the results by themselves.. .> With best wishes,> Yogesh Lajmi.>

> > --- On Mon, 11/2/09, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: Post mortem analysis of marriage> @gro ups.com> Monday, November 2, 2009, 1:30 PM> > > > > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28496?threaded= 1> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28490> > @gro ups.com, "Sundar" <sundar190561@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Yogesh Ji> > > > What I wanted to

know is

following> > > > a. Whether DBAS should transit thru any significators of 2,7,11> > > > B. Whether DBAS should transit thru DBAS only (sgl/stl/sl) . In the example below, the native was going thru rahu/ketu/venus. Ketu & venus transited thru Rahu sub,which is the Antar dasha. Rest of the two ketu/rahu is did not transit their star/sub.> > > > Thanks....Sundar > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sundar,> > > Pl. examine the s/l of the Vth cusp...it os SUN which conjoins Venus,and signifies XI ,but Sun & Venus the karaka for love and marriage,conjoin in the XIth house...you will then understand how it was a love-marriage

etc.> > > Yogesh Lajmi> > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > --- On Sun, 11/1/09, Sundar <sundar190561@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > Sundar <sundar190561@ >> > > Post mortem analysis of marriage> > > @gro ups.com> > > Sunday, November 1, 2009, 5:29 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned members> > > > >

> My neighbour go married on 21st Oct, 2009 between 9 to 10am. The transit of DBAS does not fully signify the event fully.> > > > > > dob: 25th Aug, 1979> > > tob: 9.37 (rectified)> > > pob: Mumbai> > > > > > Time of birth reported is 9.22am> > > Ayanamsha : 23.28.58> > > > > > dasha/bukti/ antra> > > > > > planet sgl stl sl > > > (MD)rahu(11) sun(11,12) venus(11,2-9) venus(11,2-9) > > > (AD)ketu(5) sat(12,5-6) rahu(11) venus(11,2-9)> > > (PAD)venus(11, 2-9) sun(11,12) ketu(5) jupiter(11,4- 7)> > > > > > rahu=sun(11, 12)> > > ketu=saturn( 12,5-6)> > > > > > Marriage on 21st October 2009 between 9 am to 10 am> > > > > > planet sgl stl sl > > > (MD)rahu(4) sat(12,5-6)

sun(1,12) jupiter(5,4- 7)> > > (AD)ketu(10) moon(2,11) jupiter(5,4- 7) rahu-MD(4)> > > (PAD)venus(12, 2-9) mer(1,1-10) moon(2,11) rahu-MD(4)> > > > > > sun venus(12,2-9) mars(10,3-8) venus(12,2-9)> > > moon mars(10,3-8) sat(12,5-6) venus(12,2-9)> > > > > > Baed on the above it is seen that MD/AD/PAD does not fully signify DBAS (except for ketu, which is rahu's sub.> > > > > > In the light of the above how do we reconcile the timing of marriage.> > > > > > Thanks...... ...Sundar> > >> >>

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Respected all,

It is very nicely presented by Sri. Devbrato Sarkar. Dear Sri Sarkar, your presentation is very clear. Lot of thanks.

You have made an attempt to dwaw attention on VII bhava and marriage. The blunder we commit every time is that when marriage is considered we immidiately focus our mind on VII bhava and and when we study VII bahva only mariage comes in to our mind.

Marriage takes place when many other signfications are in action and VII signifies many matters other than marriage. One has to sieve the significators to pick up which are really marriage GEMS.

We have to sharpen our knowledge, still, to predict correctly.

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

Dev Sarkar <sarkar_dbx Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 2:55:38 PMRe: FAILED PREDICTIONS WHERE DBAS WERE SIGNIFYING MATTER BUT EVENT NOT HAPPENED

 

 

 

 

Dear members & Respected Seniors,Being a beginner in astrology, I have started reading the books of our Guruji KSK and trying to digest the information given in them into my system. In one such book which I am currently reading is "Astrosecrets & KP - Vol 1" (for the first time); I would like to turn your attention to the section - 7th Bhava where the author is discussing about Marriage.Since I don't have the book right now with me so I shall try to recollect what I had read last night. For any event to happen or fructify transit of 4 planets is necessary viz., Saturn, Mars, Sun &

Moon being the luminaries.Saturn has an orbit of 30 years and the transit of Saturn to every Rasi / House happens once in 30 months. Mars has an orbit of 12 years and hence he transit every year in a Rasi. Likewise the luminaries Sun has an orbit of 12 months hence his transit is every month in a Rasi and Moon to cover all the 27/28 nakshatras it takes approx 30 days and the transit from each Rasi is about 30 hours. (Please note, in astrology Earth is stationary - which is our chart and all the rest revolve around this earth. Whereas in reality Sun is stationary).Thus for fructification of an event these 4 are necessary but more importance is given to the luminaries as they have a shorter transit

time as compared to Saturn & Mars - The same was also confirmed by Dr. Rath in one of the earlier mails. Since Mar's transit happens after 12 months and Saturn after 30 months. What all of us are concerned or ask for are the event going to happen in the next 12 months, so the luminaries becomes important - Sun & Moon. But along with this the Ruling planets of the day is also consider for the timing of the event , such as the Day Lord & the Hora lord. Thus for predicting an event various combination of the planets in the DBAS is seen or studied for fructification of an event and here my personal feeling is that to know the avastas of the planet (traditional astro) can give us some clue. For the Sookamsa Lord to fructify the event permission has to be given by

the Anthra Lord and like wise Anthra Lord will have to get the permission from Bhukti Lord which in turn from the Dasa Lord. (Permission means triggering the process / event). So if permission is not granted by one of these Lord the event can never happen, is the conclusion.An experienced / seasoned astrologer, he will give a window while predicting an event, like it will happen from so & so date to so & so date based on the combination of DBAS. But in the postmortem analysis, its much easier, as we know the event's date & time and can be easily co-related to the DBAS. And it is through such analysis, we are able to make our predictions to a reasonable level of accuracy.Lajmi

ji has done my BTR (my gratitude to him for his kind service) and has asked me to check with the events happened in my life (on going process) to see whether its tallying and this is a time consuming process as some of them might not tally, as TW ji said, BTR is time consuming process.Coming to the article under 7th bhava, the author goes to the extent to check whether the marriage is promised in the horoscope. If yes, then when it will take place ? If it takes place, will there be a child birth and how will this relationship be ? All these events are analyzed and explained very clearly.Sorry for the lengthy mail but I tried to make it simple so that beginners (like me) can understand it easily. I request the Seniors to correct me, if my

understanding of the DBAS vis-a-vis timimg of an event as said above is incorrect and my apologies for the same.Is KP Astrology, a science or an art ? The study of KP is definitely a science and any branch of science needs constant research & postmortem analysis. But giving the correct predictions based on the toil made on those scientific study & research is an art. So let us develop this art of giving correct predictions by doing research studies. Finally, I would like to conclude by saying that whatever is been promised to the native from their chart will be delivered by the DBAS lords at the right time, it is that we are not seeing the correct parameters / significators. Quest for knowledge is an ongoing process ............ .. the day we stop, we are brain dead.Pranams to Guruji and his KP systems.With Respects,

Jai Maa Kaali, Devbrato Sarkar

"Wealth is not just about making the money BUT making the MAN while he is making money".--- On Wed, 11/4/09, Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in> wrote:

Vishram Deshpande <vishram_deshpande@ .co. in>Re: FAILED PREDICTIONS WHERE DBAS WERE SIGNIFYING MATTER BUT EVENT NOT HAPPENED@gro ups.comWednesday, November 4, 2009, 4:38 AM

 

 

Dear Friends,

 

For correct predictions, there are many rules by which we select suitable DBAs & come to some particular period, but specifically in case of selection of Bhikthi & Anthra the D,B lords must be Ruling Planets.

 

If some Dasa or Bhukthi lord is fulfilling all rules except being a RP, it can't materialise the event. Many astrologers seem to be giving more importance to DBA lords being significators of the event. In Late Suresh Shahasane's book, "Krishnamurti Jyotish Rahasya" there is a rule that some times some particular Bhukthi or Anthra lord can't fulfil other requirements but it is a strong RP. In such cases the astrologer is required to select this Bhukthi or Anthra (even though its lord is not signifying the event) If such things happen at the time of judgement, it indicates that the event will materialise but there will be a big unfortunate thing as indicated by this lord in coming future.

 

I would like to suggest to all astrologers that if their prediction goes wrong, they should check if there is some very unfortunate thing happened after the main event materialisation. I saw Sujata ji's chart & discussions about it & realised the same thing. In her case also the the marriage was done during unsuitable periods, most probably the RPs must have changed the picture.

 

Few days back I had posted same rule ( & doubt about it- whether it can be accepted as original or not) but no one responded to it.

 

Thanks & regards.

 

Vishram Deshpande

 

 

 

guide <guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com>@gro ups.comTue, 3 November, 2009 6:03:42 PM FAILED PREDICTIONS WHERE DBAS WERE SIGNIFYING MATTER BUT EVENT NOT HAPPENED

Friends,As every astrologer says that he uses to predict very correctly and accurately and hence there is no possibility of recording of FAILED PREDICTIONS WHERE DBAS WERE SIGNIFYING MATTERS BUT EVENT NOT HAPPENED will be there.But As Sundarji gave the example regarding marriage and his contention is that transit of DBAS was not fully. There may be certain events predicted by all of us where event was not happened within the predicted time span or where we boldly predicted not happening of tghe event but the event happened.I now request all kp astrologers to give atleast 5 cases where above type of events predicted but not happened and not predicted but happened. I wish to collect the data and we will try to find what was the missing link if any. PREAMBLE OF THIS SURVEY :1. We will never change the chart nor the data including RBT prepared by the astrologer.2. We will only retabulate in specific manner which we regularly use in

KP system.3. No comments on these data base by other members in the forum till the final declaration of analysis. But the data will be available in the forum as it is. When we will reach particular decision, then everybody has a say to it.4. Every database or chart given in this analysis is authentic.5. Date of happened event will be given by the kp astrologer who submits the data to the forum with timiing if any. Also if there is recording of time when that particular chart was taken for prediction.6. Data of the event may be posted to forum but the charts prepared by individiual astrologer be given to "guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com" as attachment. It enables us not to use the capacity given for this forum occupied by these database charts.7. Any astrologer can give the details where he had the knowledge of event materialised with date, but by his study in KP if that event is not shown from the

horoscope.REQUIRED DATA FOR THIS ANALYSIS1. No name is necessary but Name of astrologer and chart No is necessary.2. Date of birth or date of Horary question3. Time of birth or time of Horary question4. Place of birth or place of where horary question was predicted.5. Longitude of the place of birth/place of Horary query.6. Latitude of the place of birth/place of Horary query.7. Time zone or summer timing (if birth /horary is not solved in India)8. Which thing was predicted and what time period was predicted.9. Whether the thing predicted was happened and if yes when? and if no, afterwards when it had happened.10. When we predicted that particular thing will not happen, but the event was happened, then give the time of happening of the event.Our intention in analysing these data base is only to help the masses with only correct predictions in the future.If anyone go through it, all confusions

in everyones mind will be come to an end. Because we are to tally why the event was happened and why the event was not happened.I expect full and warm cooperation from everyone of the forum.Without any prejudiced mind, every constructive comments will highly be appreciated.RegardsVijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, The Scientific Socy.for Research and Devt. in Astrology, Kolhapur, Maharashtra, IndiaCell No. +91 9422582853/+ 91 9673746303write me to : guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. comCC: Shri Punit Pandeyji, I request you to float this analysis into the forum. It will definately help particularly new kp learners about what we use to omit and what the mistakes we comit.RegardsVijayanand Patil, @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sundar,>

The Dasa-lord's transit is a must...because if the Dasa-lord does not permit,or be a significator, else...the Bhukti Anthara and Sookshma lords are not powerful enough to give the results by themselves.. .> With best wishes,> Yogesh Lajmi.> > > --- On Mon, 11/2/09, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: Post mortem analysis of marriage> @gro ups.com> Monday, November 2, 2009, 1:30 PM> >

> > > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28496?threaded= 1> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28490> > @gro ups.com, "Sundar" <sundar190561@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Yogesh Ji> > > > What I wanted to know is following> > > > a. Whether DBAS should transit thru any significators of 2,7,11> > > > B. Whether DBAS should transit thru DBAS only (sgl/stl/sl) . In the example below, the native was going thru rahu/ketu/venus. Ketu & venus transited thru Rahu sub,which is the Antar dasha. Rest of the two ketu/rahu is did not transit their star/sub.> > > > Thanks....Sundar > > > > > >

> > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sundar,> > > Pl. examine the s/l of the Vth cusp...it os SUN which conjoins Venus,and signifies XI ,but Sun & Venus the karaka for love and marriage,conjoin in the XIth house...you will then understand how it was a love-marriage etc.> > > Yogesh Lajmi> > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > --- On Sun, 11/1/09, Sundar <sundar190561@

> wrote:> > > > > > > > > Sundar <sundar190561@ >> > > Post mortem analysis of marriage> > > @gro ups.com> > > Sunday, November 1, 2009, 5:29 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned members> > > > > > My neighbour go married on 21st Oct, 2009 between 9 to 10am. The transit of DBAS does not fully signify the event fully.> > > > > > dob: 25th Aug, 1979> > > tob: 9.37 (rectified)> > > pob: Mumbai> > > > > > Time of birth reported is 9.22am> > > Ayanamsha : 23.28.58> > > > > > dasha/bukti/ antra> > > > > > planet sgl stl

sl > > > (MD)rahu(11) sun(11,12) venus(11,2-9) venus(11,2-9) > > > (AD)ketu(5) sat(12,5-6) rahu(11) venus(11,2-9)> > > (PAD)venus(11, 2-9) sun(11,12) ketu(5) jupiter(11,4- 7)> > > > > > rahu=sun(11, 12)> > > ketu=saturn( 12,5-6)> > > > > > Marriage on 21st October 2009 between 9 am to 10 am> > > > > > planet sgl stl sl > > > (MD)rahu(4) sat(12,5-6) sun(1,12) jupiter(5,4- 7)> > > (AD)ketu(10) moon(2,11) jupiter(5,4- 7) rahu-MD(4)> > > (PAD)venus(12, 2-9) mer(1,1-10) moon(2,11) rahu-MD(4)> > > > > > sun venus(12,2-9) mars(10,3-8) venus(12,2-9)> > > moon mars(10,3-8) sat(12,5-6) venus(12,2-9)> > > > > > Baed on the above it is seen that MD/AD/PAD does not fully signify DBAS (except for ketu, which is rahu's sub.> >

> > > > In the light of the above how do we reconcile the timing of marriage.> > > > > > Thanks...... ...Sundar> > >> >>

 

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