Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Dear Mr. Ghanekar: This refers to your below mails. The person passed away during Moon / Mars period. The lagna is Pisces. Death takes place during maraca, badhaka, moksha period. Maraca houses are 02 and 07. Badhaka house is 07 for dual sign (as in this case) Moksha is 12th house. Take all the significators of these houses. Dasha lord Moon is lord of 5, posited in 6th in the star of Venus, who is lord of 3 and 8 and posited in 12. Hence Moon gets signification of 05,06, 03, 08 and 12. Venus is in the star of Rahu. Bhukti lord Mars is lord of 02 and 09, posited in 12. Mars is in the star of Rahu. Rahu is in 4th house in Gemini will signify Mercury (lord of 04 and 07). Hence Venus and Mars gets signification of maraca 07 through Rahu. Mars, as it is lord of 2 (maraca). Besdies both Venus and Mars are in 12th -- moksha. This is a natal chart. Aspect of outer planets such as Mars, Jupiter and Saturn are powerful. The dasha lord Moon is under the powerful aspect of Mars and Venus. Moon also contributes 12 -- moksha. Hence unfortunately period favoured for death. Saturn is treated as Ayush karaka, posited in 08th house (longevity). But Saturn is connected to maraca through Rahu, since posited in Swati star. 03rd and 08th lord Venus has gone to moksha sthan and is connected to Maraca through Rahu, since posited in Satabhisha star. Lagna lord is also taken for longevity. Jupiter is posited in 09th house, which is punya house, but is posited in maraca and moskha Saturn's star Anuradha. Jupiter is posited in between Saturn and Mercury, both are maraca in this case. This particular issue is not considered by many KP astrologers, since there is nothing called Papa Kartari yoga in KP. But Papa means malefic--in this case becomes stronger in a natal chart -- because of maraca signification for both Saturn and Mercury. Since dasha lord Moon is in 06th and bhukti lord Mars is in 12th, who is conjoined with Venus (03rd and 08th), it is possible that the person was sick and was hospitalized in serious condition. Hope I have clarified. If there is any correction, do let me know. God is great. Regards MK Viswanath (new mob 9542 693 230) pramod ghanekar <pkg_2424 Sent: Tue, 8 December, 2009 7:52:37 PMRe: NO CONNECTION OF INCIDENCE WITH BADHAK HOUSE? Shri gondhalekar sir, namaskar, i am sending required three things DOB IS 31/01/1983,TOB IS 09.45 AM, PLACE-MUMBAI. I said there is no connection of moon mahadasha with death because, moon is in star of venus and sub of rahu and rahu is in its own star.Rahu being representative of budha ,rahu appears to be significator of 7th house that is badhak sthan.My arguments may feel contradictory with what i said earlier but some astrologers say rahu and ketu represent their rashiswami only and only when 1)there are no stars in nakshatra of rahu and ketu & 2) there are no stars in nakshatra of rashiswami which they represent. Here first condition is not fulfilled & second one is fulfilled because no stars in nakshatra of budha , according to this criteria rahu has no connection with 7th house and so moon is not karyesh of 7th house on fourth step.Here rahu is only balwan significator of 4th house .. so situation is confusing .Sir please give your expert comments on this and also comment on above criteria. -pramod ghanekar sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.comMon, 7 December, 2009 11:07:39 AMRe: NO CONNECTION OF INCIDENCE WITH BADHAK HOUSE? dear pramod, pl.furnish DOB,TOB,PLACE and date of death to check and answer -sunil gondhalekar On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:15 PM, pramod ghanekar <pkg_2424 > wrote: [Attachment(s) from pramod ghanekar included below] To all group members namaskar, i am sending one horoscope of person who expired in "moon" mahadasha and "mars" sub period. as i said earlier there is no connection of moon mahadasha with badhak bhava for "pisces " lagna because 7th house is badhak for this lagna and moon is not significator of 7th house. In k.p . badhak bhava is emphasised more than 8th house (for death).Will group members help solve this doubt? Moon being in nakshatra of venus is significator of 8th house. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. -- Sunil Gondhalekarwww.astrologyask. com The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Dear Promod ji, I have drawan the chart of your known person who died in Moon Major and Mars sub. I could see from his chart Pisces Asc. Moon is cuspal lord of 6th (cuspal interception a valid research item in KP) in 6th (Leo rasi) in the star of Ve-Ra. Venus is lord of 3n8 in 12 in conj. Mars. Sublord Rahu is in 4th cusp own star (Arudra) rep strongly Node Rahu (himself) who is Mercury House (Mercury is in 10th cusp as lord of 4,5 n 7 Bhadhaka ) the 7th is unoccupied. Hence nobody means Planet in the star of Mercury, So Mercury is strong significator of 7th House Bhadhaka the house of death, Being Rahu a Node in the rasi of Mercury is more stronger than Mercury to give death in this chart. Moon is clearly connected thru sublord Rahu and here u must see the longevity of the boy 1st cuspal sublord is again Rahu who is also sublord of 8th, 8th is occupied by Saturn exalted, 6th Cuspal sublordd Jupiter is in 9th cusp Scorpio in Saturn star who is in 8th strongly justifying the sudden demise of the boy. Now come to sub period Mars (12/2001 - 7/2002) who is l/o 2n9 in 12 in the star of Rahu-Venus, Rahu is strong bhadhaka and Venus is in Rahu star again is also Bhadhaka, Hence the boy might be died with accident or Chronic malaign disease which is not curable in nature. Pranam to KSK Ji. OVN MURTHY HYDERABAD 94417 78427 , pramod ghanekar <pkg_2424 wrote: > > Shri gondhalekar sir, namaskar, >  i am sending required three things DOB IS 31/01/1983,TOB IS 09.45 AM, PLACE-MUMBAI. I said there is no connection of moon mahadasha with death because, moon is in star of venus and sub of rahu and rahu is in its own star.Rahu being representative of budha ,rahu appears to be significator of 7th house that is badhak sthan.My arguments may feel contradictory with what i said earlier but some astrologers say rahu and ketu represent their rashiswami only and only when 1)there are no stars in nakshatra of rahu and ketu & 2) there are no stars in nakshatra of rashiswami which they represent. Here first condition is not fulfilled & second one is fulfilled because no stars in nakshatra of budha , according to this criteria rahu has no connection with 7th house and so moon is not karyesh of 7th house on fourth step.Here rahu is only balwan significator of 4th house . so situation is confusing .Sir please give your expert comments on this and > also comment on above criteria. > >                                         \                                         \                                         \                                  -pramod ghanekar     > > > ________________________________ > sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka > > Mon, 7 December, 2009 11:07:39 AM > Re: NO CONNECTION OF INCIDENCE WITH BADHAK HOUSE? > >  > dear pramod, > pl.furnish DOB,TOB,PLACE > and date of death > to check and answer > -sunil gondhalekar > > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:15 PM, pramod ghanekar <pkg_2424 > wrote: > >  > >[Attachment(s) from pramod ghanekar included below] > >To all group members namaskar, > >      > >            i am sending one horoscope of person who expired in " moon " mahadasha and " mars " sub period. > >as i said earlier there is no connection of moon mahadasha with badhak bhava for " pisces " lagna because 7th house is badhak for this lagna and moon is not significator of 7th house. In k.p . badhak bhava is emphasised more than 8th house (for death).Will group members help solve this doubt? Moon being in nakshatra of venus is significator of 8th house. > >________________________________ > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > -- > Sunil Gondhalekar > www.astrologyask. com > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 dear pramod, your doubt is solved by many members. as far as 4 step theory is concerned,i am not applying such rules mentioned by you...request you to follow one method and dont mix it with 4 step theory thanks -sunil gondhalekar On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:52 PM, pramod ghanekar <pkg_2424 wrote: Shri gondhalekar sir, namaskar, i am sending required three things DOB IS 31/01/1983,TOB IS 09.45 AM, PLACE-MUMBAI. I said there is no connection of moon mahadasha with death because, moon is in star of venus and sub of rahu and rahu is in its own star.Rahu being representative of budha ,rahu appears to be significator of 7th house that is badhak sthan.My arguments may feel contradictory with what i said earlier but some astrologers say rahu and ketu represent their rashiswami only and only when 1)there are no stars in nakshatra of rahu and ketu & 2) there are no stars in nakshatra of rashiswami which they represent. Here first condition is not fulfilled & second one is fulfilled because no stars in nakshatra of budha , according to this criteria rahu has no connection with 7th house and so moon is not karyesh of 7th house on fourth step.Here rahu is only balwan significator of 4th house . so situation is confusing .Sir please give your expert comments on this and also comment on above criteria. -pramod ghanekar sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka Sent: Mon, 7 December, 2009 11:07:39 AM Re: NO CONNECTION OF INCIDENCE WITH BADHAK HOUSE? dear pramod, pl.furnish DOB,TOB,PLACE and date of death to check and answer -sunil gondhalekar On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:15 PM, pramod ghanekar <pkg_2424 > wrote: [Attachment(s) from pramod ghanekar included below] To all group members namaskar, i am sending one horoscope of person who expired in " moon " mahadasha and " mars " sub period. as i said earlier there is no connection of moon mahadasha with badhak bhava for " pisces " lagna because 7th house is badhak for this lagna and moon is not significator of 7th house. In k.p . badhak bhava is emphasised more than 8th house (for death).Will group members help solve this doubt? Moon being in nakshatra of venus is significator of 8th house. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. -- Sunil Gondhalekarwww.astrologyask. com The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. -- Sunil Gondhalekarwww.astrologyask.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Dear Pramod Please be concise and give exact location of Place of Birth in Bombay as if there is slight difference in long. and lat. there may be some difference in cuspal sublords as wel as sub sub lords. Not only this but there are thousands of cases where we found or we neglect to find when the event is materialised but there is no connection of DBAs. With regards Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, The Scientific Socy.for Research and Devt. in Astrology, Kolhapur, Maharashtra, Cell NO. +91 9673746303 /+91 9422582853 write me to : guide_vijayanand On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:14:48 +0530 wrote > Shri gondhalekar sir, namaskar, i am sending required three things DOB IS 31/01/1983,TOB IS 09.45 AM, PLACE-MUMBAI. I said there is no connection of moon mahadasha with death because, moon is in star of venus and sub of rahu and rahu is in its own star.Rahu being representative of budha ,rahu appears to be significator of 7th house that is badhak sthan.My arguments may feel contradictory with what i said earlier but some astrologers say rahu and ketu represent their rashiswami only and only when 1)there are no stars in nakshatra of rahu and ketu 2) there are no stars in nakshatra of rashiswami which they represent. Here first condition is not fulfilled second one is fulfilled because no stars in nakshatra of budha , according to this criteria rahu has no connection with 7th house and so moon is not karyesh of 7th house on fourth step.Here rahu is only balwan significator of 4th house .. so situation is confusing.Sir please give your expert comments on this and also comment on above criteria. -pramod ghanekar > sunil gondhalekar > >Mon, 7 December, 2009 11:07:39 AM >Re: NO CONNECTION OF INCIDENCE WITH BADHAK HOUSE? > > dear pramod, pl.furnish DOB,TOB,PLACE and date of death to check and answer -sunil gondhalekar > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:15 PM, pramod ghanekar wrote: > [Attachment(s) from pramod ghanekar included below] To all group members namaskar, i am sending one horoscope of person who expired in "moon" mahadasha and "mars" sub period. as i said earlier there is no connection of moon mahadasha with badhak bhava for "pisces " lagna because 7th house is badhak for this lagna and moon is not significator of 7th house. In k.p . badhak bhava is emphasised more than 8th house (for death).Will group members help solve this doubt? Moon being in nakshatra of venus is significator of 8th house. > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > >-- >Sunil Gondhalekar >www.astrologyask. com > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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