What is CORRECT BIRTH TIME as per K.P. ?

December 15, 2009

Dear Members,

As per KSK, if one wants to Find out the correct birth time...

The following methods are recommended by K.P.

1. If the correct Birth time is expected/suspected to be more than plus or minus 25-30 minutes,away from the given Time Of Birth(TOB).,then the method is as folows:

a) First take the Ruling Planets at the time,when a strong urge arises...

b) Then arrange write down the Sign lord,Star-lord,Sublord and sub-sub-lord of the MOON position at that Time...

c) Now re-arrange these as : Sign-Lord,Star-lord,Sub-lord and sub-sub-lord as the degree in which the Ascendant is posited...

d) Now work out the time for this position of the Ascendant,and work out the exact Time... this will be the EXACT TOB...as per K.P. Principles...

2. If the expected/suspected TOB is within 25 to 30 minutes,then the method is as follows adjust the TOB such that the Star-lord and the Sub-lord appear as the sub-lord and sub-sub lord of the Asendant...

Such a TOB arrived at,will be the EXACT Time Of Birth...!

3. Yet another method is that, whenever one meets with a minor accident or gets a minor cut with a knife or blade...note the EXACT time at that moment,and work out the Lagna at that time,immediately...

Mysteriously,,the sublords of the Houses IV,VIII & XII will be appearing as Lagna-lord,Lagna Starlord and Lagna Sublord...

ALL MEMBERS ARE REQUESTED TO TEST THE ABOVE,AND INFORM.

4. Any further comments should be made only after having tested this out thoroughly...

naturally it is expected only K.P.New Ayanamsa will be employed...(Most modern SWs have this incorporated.)

Wishing you ALL, the very best,

Yogesh Lajmi.

GOOD LUCK !

See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.

December 16, 2009

Thanks Lajmi ji for sharing these methods. In fact, methods are not just limited to these, but there are many many more available. I have made a note of some of the methods on KP learning wiki at http://logy.astrosage.com/Home/recent-researches#TOC-Birth-Time-Rectification

The objective of the current exercise is to verify available methods like these and conclude which methods are reliable and give consistent results.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote:

Dear Members,

As per KSK, if one wants to Find out the correct birth time...

The following methods are recommended by K.P.

1. If the correct Birth time is expected/suspected to be more than plus or minus 25-30 minutes,away from the given Time Of Birth(TOB).,then the method is as folows:

a) First take the Ruling Planets at the time,when a strong urge arises...

b) Then arrange write down the Sign lord,Star-lord,Sublord and sub-sub-lord of the MOON position at that Time...

c) Now re-arrange these as : Sign-Lord,Star-lord,Sub-lord and sub-sub-lord as the degree in which the Ascendant is posited...

d) Now work out the time for this position of the Ascendant,and work out the exact Time... this will be the EXACT TOB...as per K.P. Principles...

2. If the expected/suspected TOB is within 25 to 30 minutes,then the method is as follows adjust the TOB such that the Star-lord and the Sub-lord appear as the sub-lord and sub-sub lord of the Asendant...

Such a TOB arrived at,will be the EXACT Time Of Birth...!

3. Yet another method is that, whenever one meets with a minor accident or gets a minor cut with a knife or blade...note the EXACT time at that moment,and work out the Lagna at that time,immediately...

Mysteriously,,the sublords of the Houses IV,VIII & XII will be appearing as Lagna-lord,Lagna Starlord and Lagna Sublord...

ALL MEMBERS ARE REQUESTED TO TEST THE ABOVE,AND INFORM.

4. Any further comments should be made only after having tested this out thoroughly...

naturally it is expected only K.P.New Ayanamsa will be employed...(Most modern SWs have this incorporated.)

Wishing you ALL, the very best,

Yogesh Lajmi.

GOOD LUCK !

See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.

December 16, 2009

Dear Punit,

I am very much aware of these methods,but I have mentioned those which,in my many years' experience have been priven to be most accurate...btw, have you been able to acquire the excellent book... "Rectification Of Birth Time",part IV of the series ASTROSECRETS & K.P. ?

A number of different methods has been discussed,along with examples...

And the secret of how Guruji KSK's young daughter,then,was able to stun consultants who visited him,by telling them their correct Birth Star,unerringly...within a minute of their entering the hall... !

I strongly suggest that you please read this book,and then try out all the methods given there and settle with the one,you find most accurate and easy and simple to work with...

Many interesting experiments have been suggested by me,in the past,in these very columns,but sadly very few have carried out these experiments with an honest and open mind,and with the strong desire to get at the truth... !

I suggest that you make groups of 4 or 5 enthusiasts...each group to investigate one particular method as given in K.P. Books...over atleast 10 cases each,and then collate the results...and find out whether the method suggested by K.P., using K.P. Ayanamsa alone comes out as the most accurate...

Like wise the same small groups can investigate other Ayanamsas and SWs and methods...

How about giving this a thought...this way you can test different SWs, Ayanamsas etc., and arrive at a sound conclusion...and in what is called "a controlled and scientific study"... where, in each case all parameters are the same...except for the Exact TOB,which is THE OBJECT OF THE RESEARCH... !

Comments/suggestions are invited ...from ALL..K.P. Followers...

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

GOOD LUCK !

Punit Pandey <punitp Sent: Wed, 16 December, 2009 12:18:37 PMRe: What is CORRECT BIRTH TIME as per K.P. ?

Thanks Lajmi ji for sharing these methods. In fact, methods are not just limited to these, but there are many many more available. I have made a note of some of the methods on KP learning wiki at http://logy. astrosage. com/Home/ recent-researche s#TOC-Birth- Time-Rectificati on

The objective of the current exercise is to verify available methods like these and conclude which methods are reliable and give consistent results.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:

Dear Members,

As per KSK, if one wants to Find out the correct birth time...

The following methods are recommended by K.P.

1. If the correct Birth time is expected/suspected to be more than plus or minus 25-30 minutes,away from the given Time Of Birth(TOB)., then the method is as folows:

a) First take the Ruling Planets at the time,when a strong urge arises...

b) Then arrange write down the Sign lord,Star-lord, Sublord and sub-sub-lord of the MOON position at that Time...

c) Now re-arrange these as : Sign-Lord,Star- lord,Sub- lord and sub-sub-lord as the degree in which the Ascendant is posited...

d) Now work out the time for this position of the Ascendant,and work out the exact Time... this will be the EXACT TOB...as per K.P. Principles.. .

2. If the expected/suspected TOB is within 25 to 30 minutes,then the method is as follows adjust the TOB such that the Star-lord and the Sub-lord appear as the sub-lord and sub-sub lord of the Asendant...

Such a TOB arrived at,will be the EXACT Time Of Birth...!

3. Yet another method is that, whenever one meets with a minor accident or gets a minor cut with a knife or blade...note the EXACT time at that moment,and work out the Lagna at that time,immediately. ..

Mysteriously, ,the sublords of the Houses IV,VIII & XII will be appearing as Lagna-lord,Lagna Starlord and Lagna Sublord...

ALL MEMBERS ARE REQUESTED TO TEST THE ABOVE,AND INFORM.

4. Any further comments should be made only after having tested this out thoroughly.. .

naturally it is expected only K.P.New Ayanamsa will be employed...( Most modern SWs have this incorporated. )

Wishing you ALL, the very best,

Yogesh Lajmi.

GOOD LUCK !

See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.

December 16, 2009

Dear Lajmi ji,

With no hard feelings, I wonder, if Shri KSK's daughter was able to tell birth star correctly, why his sons and other relatives are not able to do that? Truly speaking, I do not believe them blindly. I know you have strong faith in them and I am not against that. I personally do have the same level of faith as on any other KP author - nothing more nothing less. For me they are authors of few KP books just like many other KP authors. For me all methods are of same importance whether that is from AstroSecret book or any other book. I see no reason why the methods mentioned by one author should be given more importance than other authors.

Coming to your suggestion on the exercise, I also believe that it is another way of experiment and research. Once we finish this exercise, we will also take your suggested way of experiment. Your suggestion seems good and we will definitely take it with full faith and open mind.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote:

Dear Punit,

I am very much aware of these methods,but I have mentioned those which,in my many years' experience have been priven to be most accurate...btw, have you been able to acquire the excellent book... " Rectification Of Birth Time " ,part IV of the series ASTROSECRETS & K.P. ?

A number of different methods has been discussed,along with examples...

And the secret of how Guruji KSK's young daughter,then,was able to stun consultants who visited him,by telling them their correct Birth Star,unerringly...within a minute of their entering the hall... !

I strongly suggest that you please read this book,and then try out all the methods given there and settle with the one,you find most accurate and easy and simple to work with...

Many interesting experiments have been suggested by me,in the past,in these very columns,but sadly very few have carried out these experiments with an honest and open mind,and with the strong desire to get at the truth... !

I suggest that you make groups of 4 or 5 enthusiasts...each group to investigate one particular method as given in K.P. Books...over atleast 10 cases each,and then collate the results...and find out whether the method suggested by K.P., using K.P. Ayanamsa alone comes out as the most accurate...

Like wise the same small groups can investigate other Ayanamsas and SWs and methods...

How about giving this a thought...this way you can test different SWs, Ayanamsas etc., and arrive at a sound conclusion...and in what is called " a controlled and scientific study " ... where, in each case all parameters are the same...except for the Exact TOB,which is THE OBJECT OF THE RESEARCH... !

Comments/suggestions are invited ...from ALL..K.P. Followers...

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

GOOD LUCK !

Punit Pandey <punitp

Wed, 16 December, 2009 12:18:37 PMRe: What is CORRECT BIRTH TIME as per K.P. ?

Thanks Lajmi ji for sharing these methods. In fact, methods are not just limited to these, but there are many many more available. I have made a note of some of the methods on KP learning wiki at http://logy. astrosage. com/Home/ recent-researche s#TOC-Birth- Time-Rectificati on

The objective of the current exercise is to verify available methods like these and conclude which methods are reliable and give consistent results.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:

Dear Members,

As per KSK, if one wants to Find out the correct birth time...

The following methods are recommended by K.P.

1. If the correct Birth time is expected/suspected to be more than plus or minus 25-30 minutes,away from the given Time Of Birth(TOB)., then the method is as folows:

a) First take the Ruling Planets at the time,when a strong urge arises...

b) Then arrange write down the Sign lord,Star-lord, Sublord and sub-sub-lord of the MOON position at that Time...

c) Now re-arrange these as : Sign-Lord,Star- lord,Sub- lord and sub-sub-lord as the degree in which the Ascendant is posited...

d) Now work out the time for this position of the Ascendant,and work out the exact Time... this will be the EXACT TOB...as per K.P. Principles.. .

2. If the expected/suspected TOB is within 25 to 30 minutes,then the method is as follows adjust the TOB such that the Star-lord and the Sub-lord appear as the sub-lord and sub-sub lord of the Asendant...

Such a TOB arrived at,will be the EXACT Time Of Birth...!

3. Yet another method is that, whenever one meets with a minor accident or gets a minor cut with a knife or blade...note the EXACT time at that moment,and work out the Lagna at that time,immediately. ..

Mysteriously, ,the sublords of the Houses IV,VIII & XII will be appearing as Lagna-lord,Lagna Starlord and Lagna Sublord...

ALL MEMBERS ARE REQUESTED TO TEST THE ABOVE,AND INFORM.

4. Any further comments should be made only after having tested this out thoroughly.. .

naturally it is expected only K.P.New Ayanamsa will be employed...( Most modern SWs have this incorporated. )

Wishing you ALL, the very best,

Yogesh Lajmi.

GOOD LUCK !

See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.

December 16, 2009

Dear Lajmi ji,Nice explanation...and a nice lesson...Especially it may help for the new comers to ahve top marks.Thank u very muchWith kind regardsKalyanYogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmiALL MEMBERS Cc: Punit <Panday; tw853 <tw853; R Satish

<rsatish1942; vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1Tue, December 15, 2009 8:29:18 PM What is CORRECT BIRTH TIME as per K.P. ?

Dear Members,

As per KSK, if one wants to Find out the correct birth time...

The following methods are recommended by K.P.

1. If the correct Birth time is expected/suspected to be more than plus or minus 25-30 minutes,away from the given Time Of Birth(TOB)., then the method is as folows:

a) First take the Ruling Planets at the time,when a strong urge arises...

b) Then arrange write down the Sign lord,Star-lord, Sublord and sub-sub-lord of the MOON position at that Time...

c) Now re-arrange these as : Sign-Lord,Star- lord,Sub- lord and sub-sub-lord as the degree in which the Ascendant is posited...

d) Now work out the time for this position of the Ascendant,and work out the exact Time... this will be the EXACT TOB...as per K.P. Principles.. .

2. If the expected/suspected TOB is within 25 to 30 minutes,then the method is as follows adjust the TOB such that the Star-lord and the Sub-lord appear as the sub-lord and sub-sub lord of the Asendant...

Such a TOB arrived at,will be the EXACT Time Of Birth...!

3. Yet another method is that, whenever one meets with a minor accident or gets a minor cut with a knife or blade...note the EXACT time at that moment,and work out the Lagna at that time,immediately. ..

Mysteriously, ,the sublords of the Houses IV,VIII & XII will be appearing as Lagna-lord,Lagna Starlord and Lagna Sublord...

ALL MEMBERS ARE REQUESTED TO TEST THE ABOVE,AND INFORM.

4. Any further comments should be made only after having tested this out thoroughly.. .

naturally it is expected only K.P.New Ayanamsa will be employed...( Most modern SWs have this incorporated. )

Wishing you ALL, the very best,

Yogesh Lajmi.

GOOD LUCK !

See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.

December 16, 2009

Dear Punit,

The site is called @, that is the most important reason...

Ater all is said and done,I must say that my initial suspicions,with no hard feelings,

of course,have been confirmed,now...that you have used the suffix 'K.P'., only to further your own personal interests...like your SW and the new palmtop compatible SW...

Your angst against Mr. K.Subramaniam is noticeably obvious,once again...

Now that you have agreed to conduct a study as suggested by me, I am certain this study will solve this problem to the satisfaction of everybody...once,and for all...

With your present collection of horoscopes of many people,you can certainly try to rectify their TOB's to arrive at their exact TOB by using this method of using the Ruling Planets....yourself,in the meanwhile...and satisfy yourself... How about doing that ?

What I have said about KSK's daughter's feat of stunning people is written/reported by KSK himself...and not by anybody else,as you presume...!

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

Punit Pandey <punitp Sent: Wed, 16 December, 2009 3:23:14 PMRe: What is CORRECT BIRTH TIME as per K.P. ?

Dear Lajmi ji,

With no hard feelings, I wonder, if Shri KSK's daughter was able to tell birth star correctly, why his sons and other relatives are not able to do that? Truly speaking, I do not believe them blindly. I know you have strong faith in them and I am not against that. I personally do have the same level of faith as on any other KP author - nothing more nothing less. For me they are authors of few KP books just like many other KP authors. For me all methods are of same importance whether that is from AstroSecret book or any other book. I see no reason why the methods mentioned by one author should be given more importance than other authors.

Coming to your suggestion on the exercise, I also believe that it is another way of experiment and research. Once we finish this exercise, we will also take your suggested way of experiment. Your suggestion seems good and we will definitely take it with full faith and open mind..

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:

Dear Punit,

I am very much aware of these methods,but I have mentioned those which,in my many years' experience have been priven to be most accurate...btw, have you been able to acquire the excellent book... "Rectification Of Birth Time",part IV of the series ASTROSECRETS & K.P. ?

A number of different methods has been discussed,along with examples...

And the secret of how Guruji KSK's young daughter,then, was able to stun consultants who visited him,by telling them their correct Birth Star,unerringly. ..within a minute of their entering the hall... !

I strongly suggest that you please read this book,and then try out all the methods given there and settle with the one,you find most accurate and easy and simple to work with...

Many interesting experiments have been suggested by me,in the past,in these very columns,but sadly very few have carried out these experiments with an honest and open mind,and with the strong desire to get at the truth... !

I suggest that you make groups of 4 or 5 enthusiasts. ..each group to investigate one particular method as given in K.P. Books...over atleast 10 cases each,and then collate the results...and find out whether the method suggested by K.P., using K.P. Ayanamsa alone comes out as the most accurate...

Like wise the same small groups can investigate other Ayanamsas and SWs and methods...

How about giving this a thought...this way you can test different SWs, Ayanamsas etc., and arrive at a sound conclusion.. .and in what is called "a controlled and scientific study"... where, in each case all parameters are the same...except for the Exact TOB,which is THE OBJECT OF THE RESEARCH... !

Comments/suggestion s are invited ...from ALL..K.P. Followers. ..

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

GOOD LUCK !

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.comWed, 16 December, 2009 12:18:37 PMRe: What is CORRECT BIRTH TIME as per K.P. ?

Thanks Lajmi ji for sharing these methods. In fact, methods are not just limited to these, but there are many many more available. I have made a note of some of the methods on KP learning wiki at http://logy. astrosage. com/Home/ recent-researche s#TOC-Birth- Time-Rectificati on

The objective of the current exercise is to verify available methods like these and conclude which methods are reliable and give consistent results.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:

Dear Members,

As per KSK, if one wants to Find out the correct birth time...

The following methods are recommended by K.P.

1. If the correct Birth time is expected/suspected to be more than plus or minus 25-30 minutes,away from the given Time Of Birth(TOB)., then the method is as folows:

a) First take the Ruling Planets at the time,when a strong urge arises...

b) Then arrange write down the Sign lord,Star-lord, Sublord and sub-sub-lord of the MOON position at that Time...

c) Now re-arrange these as : Sign-Lord,Star- lord,Sub- lord and sub-sub-lord as the degree in which the Ascendant is posited...

d) Now work out the time for this position of the Ascendant,and work out the exact Time... this will be the EXACT TOB...as per K.P. Principles.. .

2. If the expected/suspected TOB is within 25 to 30 minutes,then the method is as follows adjust the TOB such that the Star-lord and the Sub-lord appear as the sub-lord and sub-sub lord of the Asendant...

Such a TOB arrived at,will be the EXACT Time Of Birth...!

3. Yet another method is that, whenever one meets with a minor accident or gets a minor cut with a knife or blade...note the EXACT time at that moment,and work out the Lagna at that time,immediately. ..

Mysteriously, ,the sublords of the Houses IV,VIII & XII will be appearing as Lagna-lord,Lagna Starlord and Lagna Sublord...

ALL MEMBERS ARE REQUESTED TO TEST THE ABOVE,AND INFORM.

4. Any further comments should be made only after having tested this out thoroughly.. .

naturally it is expected only K.P.New Ayanamsa will be employed...( Most modern SWs have this incorporated. )

Wishing you ALL, the very best,

Yogesh Lajmi.

GOOD LUCK !

See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.

December 16, 2009

Dear Lajmi ji,

Blaming is always easy. I can also blame you for unnecessarily promoting commercial books. See the emails in the forum and you will lead with high margins (in comparison to anybody .. till date) in posting about commercial books that too of a single author. Promoting a free software that I developed for years of my efforts is much better than unnecessarily promoting commercial books of an author. When somebody opposes that, then he is labelled as having " angst " . If somebody not ready to " blindly " following him, then it is angst. I wonder, if somebody not buying his books, then also he is having " angst " against the author? :-)

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote:

Dear Punit,

The site is called @, that is the most important reason...

Ater all is said and done,I must say that my initial suspicions,with no hard feelings,

of course,have been confirmed,now...that you have used the suffix 'K.P'., only to further your own personal interests...like your SW and the new palmtop compatible SW...

Your angst against Mr. K.Subramaniam is noticeably obvious,once again...

Now that you have agreed to conduct a study as suggested by me, I am certain this study will solve this problem to the satisfaction of everybody...once,and for all...

With your present collection of horoscopes of many people,you can certainly try to rectify their TOB's to arrive at their exact TOB by using this method of using the Ruling Planets....yourself,in the meanwhile...and satisfy yourself... How about doing that ?

What I have said about KSK's daughter's feat of stunning people is written/reported by KSK himself...and not by anybody else,as you presume...!

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

Punit Pandey <punitp

Wed, 16 December, 2009 3:23:14 PM Re: What is CORRECT BIRTH TIME as per K.P. ?

Dear Lajmi ji,

With no hard feelings, I wonder, if Shri KSK's daughter was able to tell birth star correctly, why his sons and other relatives are not able to do that? Truly speaking, I do not believe them blindly. I know you have strong faith in them and I am not against that. I personally do have the same level of faith as on any other KP author - nothing more nothing less. For me they are authors of few KP books just like many other KP authors. For me all methods are of same importance whether that is from AstroSecret book or any other book. I see no reason why the methods mentioned by one author should be given more importance than other authors.

Coming to your suggestion on the exercise, I also believe that it is another way of experiment and research. Once we finish this exercise, we will also take your suggested way of experiment. Your suggestion seems good and we will definitely take it with full faith and open mind..

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:

Dear Punit,

I am very much aware of these methods,but I have mentioned those which,in my many years' experience have been priven to be most accurate...btw, have you been able to acquire the excellent book... " Rectification Of Birth Time " ,part IV of the series ASTROSECRETS & K.P. ?

A number of different methods has been discussed,along with examples...

And the secret of how Guruji KSK's young daughter,then, was able to stun consultants who visited him,by telling them their correct Birth Star,unerringly. ..within a minute of their entering the hall... !

I strongly suggest that you please read this book,and then try out all the methods given there and settle with the one,you find most accurate and easy and simple to work with...

Many interesting experiments have been suggested by me,in the past,in these very columns,but sadly very few have carried out these experiments with an honest and open mind,and with the strong desire to get at the truth... !

I suggest that you make groups of 4 or 5 enthusiasts. ..each group to investigate one particular method as given in K.P. Books...over atleast 10 cases each,and then collate the results...and find out whether the method suggested by K.P., using K.P. Ayanamsa alone comes out as the most accurate...

Like wise the same small groups can investigate other Ayanamsas and SWs and methods...

How about giving this a thought...this way you can test different SWs, Ayanamsas etc., and arrive at a sound conclusion.. .and in what is called " a controlled and scientific study " ... where, in each case all parameters are the same...except for the Exact TOB,which is THE OBJECT OF THE RESEARCH... !

Comments/suggestion s are invited ...from ALL..K.P. Followers. ..

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

GOOD LUCK !

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.com

Wed, 16 December, 2009 12:18:37 PMRe: What is CORRECT BIRTH TIME as per K.P. ?

Thanks Lajmi ji for sharing these methods. In fact, methods are not just limited to these, but there are many many more available. I have made a note of some of the methods on KP learning wiki at http://logy. astrosage. com/Home/ recent-researche s#TOC-Birth- Time-Rectificati on

The objective of the current exercise is to verify available methods like these and conclude which methods are reliable and give consistent results.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:

Dear Members,

As per KSK, if one wants to Find out the correct birth time...

The following methods are recommended by K.P.

1. If the correct Birth time is expected/suspected to be more than plus or minus 25-30 minutes,away from the given Time Of Birth(TOB)., then the method is as folows:

a) First take the Ruling Planets at the time,when a strong urge arises...

b) Then arrange write down the Sign lord,Star-lord, Sublord and sub-sub-lord of the MOON position at that Time...

c) Now re-arrange these as : Sign-Lord,Star- lord,Sub- lord and sub-sub-lord as the degree in which the Ascendant is posited...

d) Now work out the time for this position of the Ascendant,and work out the exact Time... this will be the EXACT TOB...as per K.P. Principles.. .

2. If the expected/suspected TOB is within 25 to 30 minutes,then the method is as follows adjust the TOB such that the Star-lord and the Sub-lord appear as the sub-lord and sub-sub lord of the Asendant...

Such a TOB arrived at,will be the EXACT Time Of Birth...!

3. Yet another method is that, whenever one meets with a minor accident or gets a minor cut with a knife or blade...note the EXACT time at that moment,and work out the Lagna at that time,immediately. ..

Mysteriously, ,the sublords of the Houses IV,VIII & XII will be appearing as Lagna-lord,Lagna Starlord and Lagna Sublord...

ALL MEMBERS ARE REQUESTED TO TEST THE ABOVE,AND INFORM.

4. Any further comments should be made only after having tested this out thoroughly.. .

naturally it is expected only K.P.New Ayanamsa will be employed...( Most modern SWs have this incorporated. )

Wishing you ALL, the very best,

Yogesh Lajmi.

GOOD LUCK !

See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.

December 16, 2009

Dear Punitji and Lajmiji,

I humbly request both of You to please put a stop to this discussion here and

now for the good of the Members. We need co-operations from both of you for

further study. We have to learn to " agree " to each others " disagreements " and

move ahead. Please talk about something else.

regards/Bhaskar.

, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

>

> Dear Lajmi ji,

>

> Blaming is always easy. I can also blame you for unnecessarily promoting

> commercial books. See the emails in the forum and you will lead with high

> margins (in comparison to anybody .. till date) in posting about commercial

> books that too of a single author. Promoting a free software that I

> developed for years of my efforts is much better than unnecessarily

> promoting commercial books of an author. When somebody opposes that, then

> he is labelled as having " angst " . If somebody not ready to " blindly "

> following him, then it is angst. I wonder, if somebody not buying his books,

> then also he is having " angst " against the author? :-)

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote:

>

> >

> > Dear Punit,

> > The site is called* @

groups<@+groups>,

> > that is the most important reason...*

> > *Ater all is said and done,I must say that my initial

> > suspicions,with no hard feelings,*

> > *of course,have been confirmed,now...**that you have used the suffix

> > 'K.P'., only to further your own personal interests...like your SW and the

> > new palmtop compatible SW...*

> > Your angst against *Mr. K.Subramaniam* is *noticeably

> > obvious*,once again...

> > Now that you have agreed to conduct a study as suggested by

> > me, I am certain this study will solve this problem to the satisfaction of

> > everybody...*once,and for all...*

> > * *With your present collection of horoscopes of many

> > people,you can certainly try to *rectify their TOB's to arrive at their

> > exact TOB by using this method of using the Ruling Planets....yourself,in

> > the meanwhile...and satisfy yourself...* How about doing that ?

> > * * What I have said about KSK's daughter's feat of

> > stunning people is written/reported by KSK himself...*and not by anybody

> > else,as you presume...!*

> > * * With best wishes,

> > Yogesh Lajmi.

> >

> > ------------------------------

> > ** Punit Pandey <punitp

> > *To:*

> > *Sent:* Wed, 16 December, 2009 3:23:14 PM

> >

> > *Subject:* Re: What is CORRECT BIRTH TIME as per K.P. ?

> >

> > Dear Lajmi ji,

> >

> > With no hard feelings, I wonder, if Shri KSK's daughter was able to

> > tell birth star correctly, why his sons and other relatives are not able to

> > do that? Truly speaking, I do not believe them blindly. I know you have

> > strong faith in them and I am not against that. I personally do have the

> > same level of faith as on any other KP author - nothing more nothing less.

> > For me they are authors of few KP books just like many other KP authors. For

> > me all methods are of same importance whether that is from AstroSecret book

> > or any other book. I see no reason why the methods mentioned by one author

> > should be given more importance than other authors.

> >

> > Coming to your suggestion on the exercise, I also believe that it is

> > another way of experiment and research. Once we finish this exercise, we

> > will also take your suggested way of experiment. Your suggestion seems good

> > and we will definitely take it with full faith and open mind..

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> >

> > Punit Pandey

> >

> > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@

<yogeshlajmi

> > > wrote:

> >

> >>

> >> Dear Punit,

> >> I am very much aware of these methods,but I have

> >> mentioned *those which,in my many years' experience have been priven to

> >> be most accurate...btw, have you been able to acquire the excellent book...

> >> " Rectification Of Birth Time " ,part IV of the series ASTROSECRETS & K.P. ?

> >> *

> >> * *A number of different methods has been discussed,along

> >> with examples...

> >> And the secret of how Guruji KSK's young daughter,then,

> >> was able to stun consultants who visited him,by telling them their correct

> >> Birth Star,unerringly. ..within a minute of their entering the hall... !

> >> I strongly suggest that you please read this book,and then

> >> try out all the methods given there and settle with the one,you find most

> >> accurate and easy and simple to work with...

> >> Many interesting experiments have been suggested by me,in

> >> the past,in these very columns,but sadly very few have *carried out these

> >> experiments with an honest and open mind,and with the strong desire to get

> >> at the truth... !*

> >> * * I suggest that you make groups of 4 or 5 enthusiasts.

> >> ..each group to investigate one particular method as given in K.P.

> >> Books...over atleast 10 cases each,and then collate the results...and find

> >> out whether the method suggested by K.P., using K.P. Ayanamsa alone comes

> >> out as the most accurate...

> >> Like wise the same small groups can investigate other

> >> Ayanamsas and SWs and methods...

> >> How about giving this a thought...this way you can test

> >> different SWs, Ayanamsas etc., and arrive at a sound conclusion.. .and in

> >> what is called * " a controlled and scientific study " ...* where, in each

> >> case all parameters are the same...except for the Exact TOB,which is THE

> >> OBJECT OF THE RESEARCH... !

> >> Comments/suggestion s are invited ...from

> >> ALL..K.P. Followers. ..

> >> With best wishes,

> >> Yogesh Lajmi.

> >> GOOD LUCK !

> >>

> >> ------------------------------

> >> ** Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com <punitp>

> >> *To:* @gro ups.com <

> >>

> >> *Sent:* Wed, 16 December, 2009 12:18:37 PM

> >> *Subject:* Re: What is CORRECT BIRTH TIME as per K.P. ?

> >>

> >> Thanks Lajmi ji for sharing these methods. In fact, methods are not just

> >> limited to these, but there are many many more available. I have made a

note

> >> of some of the methods on KP learning wiki at http://logy.

> >> astrosage. com/Home/ recent-researche s#TOC-Birth- Time-Rectificati

on<http://logy.astrosage.com/Home/recent-researches#TOC-Birth-Time-Rectif\

ication>

> >>

> >> The objective of the current exercise is to verify available methods like

> >> these and conclude which methods are reliable and give consistent results.

> >>

> >> Thanks & Regards,

> >>

> >> Punit Pandey

> >>

> >> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@

<yogeshlajmi

> >> > wrote:

> >>

> >>>

> >>> Dear Members,

> >>> As per KSK, if one wants to Find out the *correct

> >>> birth time...*

> >>> * *The following methods are recommended by K.P.

> >>> 1. If the correct Birth time is expected/suspected

> >>> to be *more* than *plus or minus* 25-30 minutes,away from the given

> >>> Time Of Birth(TOB)., then the method is as folows:

> >>> a) First take the Ruling Planets at the

> >>> time,when a strong urge arises...

> >>> b) Then arrange *write down the Sign

> >>> lord,Star-lord, Sublord and sub-sub-lord of the MOON position at that

> >>> Time...*

> >>> c) Now re-arrange these as :

*Sign-Lord,Star-

> >>> lord,Sub- lord and sub-sub-lord as the degree in which the Ascendant is

> >>> posited...*

> >>> d) Now work out the time for this

> >>> position of the *Ascendant*,and work out the exact Time... *this will be

> >>> the EXACT TOB...as per K.P. Principles.. .*

> >>>

> >>> 2. If the expected/suspected TOB is *within 25 to

> >>> 30 minutes,then the method is as follows adjust the TOB such that the

> >>> Star-lord and the Sub-lord appear as the sub-lord and sub-sub lord of the

> >>> Asendant...*

> >>> * *Such a TOB arrived at,will be the *EXACT

> >>> Time Of Birth...!*

> >>>

> >>> 3. *Yet another method **is that, whenever one

> >>> meets with a minor accident or gets a minor cut with a knife or

blade...note

> >>> the EXACT time at that moment,and work out the Lagna at that

> >>> time,immediately. ..*

> >>> * Mysteriously, ,the sublords of the Houses

> >>> IV,VIII & XII will be appearing as Lagna-lord,Lagna Starlord and Lagna

> >>> Sublord... *

> >>> * ** ALL MEMBERS ARE REQUESTED TO TEST THE

> >>> ABOVE,AND INFORM.*

> >>>

> >>> * * 4. Any further comments should be made *only

> >>> after having* *tested this out thoroughly.. .*

> >>> *naturally it is expected only K.P.New Ayanamsa* will be employed...(

> >>> Most modern SWs have this incorporated. )

> >>> * *

> >>> Wishing you ALL, the very best,

> >>> Yogesh Lajmi.

> >>> GOOD LUCK !*

> >>> *

> >>> * *

> >>>

> >>> * *

> >>>

> >>> * *

> >>>

> >>> * *

> >>>

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>

December 17, 2009

Dear Shri Punit PandeyI am a silent , but regular,reader in this site, You know.Your services in the filed of astrology and in KP System areremarkable.I wish you all the best, in future, also. Pl.do not get disturbed by any comments. I , am sure, that will not happen. Still, I felt like writing this.ALL THE BESTrao chitturu--- On Wed, 16/12/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:Punit Pandey <punitpRe: What is CORRECT BIRTH TIME as per K.P. ? Date: Wednesday, 16 December, 2009, 8:50 PM

Dear Lajmi ji,

Blaming is always easy. I can also blame you for unnecessarily promoting commercial books. See the emails in the forum and you will lead with high margins (in comparison to anybody .. till date) in posting about commercial books that too of a single author. Promoting a free software that I developed for years of my efforts is much better than unnecessarily promoting commercial books of an author. When somebody opposes that, then he is labelled as having "angst". If somebody not ready to "blindly" following him, then it is angst. I wonder, if somebody not buying his books, then also he is having "angst" against the author? :-)

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:

Dear Punit,

The site is called @, that is the most important reason...

Ater all is said and done,I must say that my initial suspicions,with no hard feelings,

of course,have been confirmed,now. ..that you have used the suffix 'K.P'., only to further your own personal interests... like your SW and the new palmtop compatible SW...

Your angst against Mr. K.Subramaniam is noticeably obvious,once again...

Now that you have agreed to conduct a study as suggested by me, I am certain this study will solve this problem to the satisfaction of everybody...once,and for all...

With your present collection of horoscopes of many people,you can certainly try to rectify their TOB's to arrive at their exact TOB by using this method of using the Ruling Planets....yourself ,in the meanwhile... and satisfy yourself... How about doing that ?