Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...

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Dear Members,

Research conducted by Linda Goodman as published in her book,and the observation of Llewylyn George shows that "The position of the Moon at Epoch", or the time of the egg getting fertilised by the sperm, represents the degrees, minutes and seconds of the Ascendant of the Birth Chart.

This and some more interesting information is also given on this by Linda Goodman in her book and she calls this subject Astrobiology...

To find out the day of Epoch,count 273 days backwards from the day of the birth of the child...and you will arrive at the approximate day of conception...the actual moment of conception is when the actual human generation commences...

Further research had shown that the Ruling Planets at Birth,are the same those at the time of conception...(and also...at the death of the human being...) !

Punit,TW,Senthil and others could kindly do some further deep and new research in this area...and ensure to use the New K.P. Ayanamsa... and then pass their own judgement based on facts and not on superficial studies or "feelings" or prejudices...

Linda Goodman has also shown that the distance between the Sun and Moon in the Mother's chart is also seen in the newborn's Birth Chart...This fact was already known,very well, to our sages of old...! !

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi

 

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Dear Lajmi ji,

 

We do not believe in superficial studies or " feelings " or prejudices. We are already working on verification process and time will soon tell which methods are correct and which are not. Let us wait and watch.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Members,

                       Research conducted by Linda Goodman as published in her book,and the observation of Llewylyn George shows that " The position of the Moon at Epoch " , or the time of the egg getting fertilised by the sperm, represents the degrees, minutes and seconds of the Ascendant  of the Birth Chart.

                      This and some more interesting information is also given on this by Linda Goodman in her book and she calls this subject Astrobiology...

                      To find out the day of Epoch,count 273 days backwards from the day of the birth of the child...and you will arrive at the approximate day of conception...the actual moment of conception is when the actual human generation commences...

                      Further research had shown that the Ruling Planets at Birth,are the same those at the time of conception...(and also...at the death of the human being...) !

                      Punit,TW,Senthil and others could kindly do some further deep and new research in this area...and ensure to use the New K.P. Ayanamsa... and then pass their own judgement based on facts and not on superficial studies or " feelings " or prejudices...

                      Linda Goodman has also shown that the distance between the Sun and Moon in the Mother's chart is also seen in the newborn's Birth Chart...This fact was already known,very well, to our sages of old...! !

                      With best wishes,

                      Yogesh Lajmi

                     

                    

                     

                     

 

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Dear Friends,

 

1. What is said here is from the articles of K.M. Subramaniam in the K.P. &

Astrology 1997 pp 7-18 and his nephew Prof. Vikarai Ramamurthy in the KPE-zine

Nov 2009 on the Prenatal Epoch and KSK.s Ruling Planets.

 

2. The purpose of these articles is to prove that the RPs at the time of birth

are the same as at the time of Prenatal Epoch and to explain how Guruji KSK is

correct to tell that the RPs alone can be well used for the rectification of

birth time.

 

3. Some other points worthy to note in these articles are:

1) Guruji KSK told the authors that he got inspiration only through the Prenatal

Epoch to form the 5 RPs.

2) What Linda Goodman has told now, had already been indicated by our sages of

previous centuries, by quoting a Tamil Stanza from " Santhana Dheepika " ...

 

4. It can be concluded from these articles that according to Guruji KSK, the

RP-based BTR method alone is to be used, not the Moon Star = ASC Sub lord BTR

rule or the Asc Sub = Moon Star & simultaneously Asc Sub-Sub = Moon Sub BRT

rule.

 

5. It is also in line with the following Guruji KSK's guidance:

 

To find birth time, there are various rules given in Hindu Traditional System;

the Westerners follow pre-natal approach. All these methods are useless for such

customers. Only the Ruling Planets at the moment of judgment will be useful and

innumerable instances are given in the magazine " Astrology & Athrishta " .

-KP Reader VI page 138 1st para (any edition)

 

Note the sublord of the sixth (6th) cusp. This needs correct moment of birth.

" If it is not available " , then if you want to know the sub of the sixth, you

take ruling planets at the moment when you have the urge to put the query.

Mysteriously God will help you by eliminating the previous and the next sub to

the one which you have to select

-A & A 1970 Jan p 27, also KP Reader III p 281 (Old Edition, Practical Part p 118)

 

Thanks and regards,

TW

 

 

 

, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote:

>

> Dear Members,

>                        Research conducted by Linda Goodman as published in her

book,and the observation of Llewylyn George shows that " The position of the Moon

at Epoch " , or the time of the egg getting fertilised by the sperm, represents

the degrees, minutes and seconds of the Ascendant  of the Birth Chart..

>                       This and some more interesting information is also given

on this by Linda Goodman in her book and she calls this subject Astrobiology...

>                       To find out the day of Epoch,count 273 days backwards

from the day of the birth of the child...and you will arrive at the approximate

day of conception...the actual moment of conception is when the actual human

generation commences...

>                       Further research had shown that the Ruling Planets at

Birth,are the same those at the time of conception...(and also...at the death of

the human being...) !

>                       Punit,TW,Senthil and others could kindly do some further

deep and new research in this area...and ensure to use the New K.P.

Ayanamsa... and then pass their own judgement based on facts and not on

superficial studies or " feelings " or prejudices....

>                       Linda Goodman has also shown that the distance between

the Sun and Moon in the Mother's chart is also seen in the newborn's Birth

Chart...This fact was already known,very well, to our sages of old...! !

>                       With best wishes,

>                       Yogesh Lajmi

>

>

>

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Dear LajmijiThe distance between the sun and the moon in the mothers chart is not seen in the childrens chart as borne out by my childrens chart.One is born near the new moon, the other on full moon.RegardsSujataYogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmiALL MEMBERS Cc: Punit

<PandayWed, 23 December, 2009 9:11:16 PM Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...

 

 

Dear Members,

Research conducted by Linda Goodman as published in her book,and the observation of Llewylyn George shows that "The position of the Moon at Epoch", or the time of the egg getting fertilised by the sperm, represents the degrees, minutes and seconds of the Ascendant of the Birth Chart.

This and some more interesting information is also given on this by Linda Goodman in her book and she calls this subject Astrobiology. ..

To find out the day of Epoch,count 273 days backwards from the day of the birth of the child...and you will arrive at the approximate day of conception.. .the actual moment of conception is when the actual human generation commences...

Further research had shown that the Ruling Planets at Birth,are the same those at the time of conception...(and also...at the death of the human being...) !

Punit,TW,Senthil and others could kindly do some further deep and new research in this area...and ensure to use the New K.P. Ayanamsa... and then pass their own judgement based on facts and not on superficial studies or "feelings" or prejudices.. .

Linda Goodman has also shown that the distance between the Sun and Moon in the Mother's chart is also seen in the newborn's Birth Chart...This fact was already known,very well, to our sages of old...! !

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi

 

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Sir,

Many babies are born premature, in that case we will have to make adjustments to 273 days accordingly? Right?

Regards

Bhuwan

 

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmiALL MEMBERS Cc: Punit <PandayWed, 23 December, 2009 9:11:16 PM Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...

 

 

Dear Members,

Research conducted by Linda Goodman as published in her book,and the observation of Llewylyn George shows that "The position of the Moon at Epoch", or the time of the egg getting fertilised by the sperm, represents the degrees, minutes and seconds of the Ascendant of the Birth Chart.

This and some more interesting information is also given on this by Linda Goodman in her book and she calls this subject Astrobiology. ..

To find out the day of Epoch,count 273 days backwards from the day of the birth of the child...and you will arrive at the approximate day of conception.. .the actual moment of conception is when the actual human generation commences...

Further research had shown that the Ruling Planets at Birth,are the same those at the time of conception...(and also...at the death of the human being...) !

Punit,TW,Senthil and others could kindly do some further deep and new research in this area...and ensure to use the New K.P. Ayanamsa... and then pass their own judgement based on facts and not on superficial studies or "feelings" or prejudices.. .

Linda Goodman has also shown that the distance between the Sun and Moon in the Mother's chart is also seen in the newborn's Birth Chart...This fact was already known,very well, to our sages of old...! !

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi

 

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Dear Sujata ji,

 

K.P. & Astrology 1997 p 8

....what Linda Goodman had written is as follows:

" It is called astrobiology and it works like this...woman can concieve only

during a certain approximately two hour period of each lunar month, when the Sun

and Moon are exactly the same number of degrees apart, as they were at the time

of birth, which may be discovered from the nativity of female horoscope. "

" ... the (Pre) Natal Approach is merely astrological method of counting back

from the exact birth time of infants to the true and precise time of conception,

which will invariably and infallibly reveal that a Sun-Moon relationship to

match that of the Mother's at her birth and will also match the sex of infant by

the sex of the astrological sign in which the Moon was deposited at that time. "

(difference between Sun and Moon in mother's chart = Thithi of the mother's

birthday)

http://www.planetwaves.net/cainer/archive/001540.php

 

Shri K.M. Subramaniam said that what Linda Goodman had told then had already

been indicated by our sages of previous centuries, and Llewellyn George had not

given any clear cut procedure to find out the conception time of the mother in

his book 'A to Z Horoscope Maker " under the P.N.E. (pp 549-551, Llewellyn

Publications, 1997, saying to count ten lunar months or 273 days backward from

the date of birth to find the conception date, TW) He had given some

horoscopes, with a procedure to find out the P.N.E. , using the Sun-Moon

relationship from the mother's charts in terms of what is told by

Sivagnanamunivar and Linda Goodman, and 273 days given by Llewellyn George.

 

http://www.planetwaves.net/cainer/archive/001540.php

/message/13189

 

Regards,

TW

 

, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote:

>

> Dear Lajmiji

> The distance between the sun and the moon in the mothers chart is not seen in

the childrens chart as borne out by my childrens chart.One is born near the new

moon, the other on full moon.

> Regards

> Sujata

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi

> ALL MEMBERS

> Cc: Punit <Panday

> Wed, 23 December, 2009 9:11:16 PM

> Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come

in very handy for RBT...

>

>

> Dear Members,

> Research conducted by Linda Goodman as published in her

book,and the observation of Llewylyn George shows that " The position of the Moon

at Epoch " , or the time of the egg getting fertilised by the sperm, represents

the degrees, minutes and seconds of the Ascendant of the Birth Chart.

> This and some more interesting information is also given

on this by Linda Goodman in her book and she calls this subject Astrobiology. ..

> To find out the day of Epoch,count 273 days backwards

from the day of the birth of the child...and you will arrive at the approximate

day of conception.. .the actual moment of conception is when the actual human

generation commences...

> Further research had shown that the Ruling Planets at

Birth,are the same those at the time of conception...(and also...at the death of

the human being...) !

> Punit,TW,Senthil and others could kindly do some further

deep and new research in this area...and ensure to use the New K.P. Ayanamsa...

and then pass their own judgement based on facts and not on superficial studies

or " feelings " or prejudices.. .

> Linda Goodman has also shown that the distance between

the Sun and Moon in the Mother's chart is also seen in the newborn's Birth

Chart...This fact was already known,very well, to our sages of old...! !

> With best wishes,

> Yogesh Lajmi

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.

>

>

>

> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in./

>

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FriendsMy daughter was born on 13 -8 83, about a week after due date. I calculated 273 days backward at random time of 11-31pm, on 15-4-82, and the moon was transiting ju sa ve, her ascendant. I was really surprised.Another day, I was worried about ve being the csl of 6 7 8 of my daughter, and I thought I would check up the Rps, And they came out to b ju sa ven againRPs are a divine guidanceRegardsSujataBhuwan Agrawal

<bhuwan.agrawal Sent: Thu, 24 December, 2009 6:50:57 PMRe: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...

 

 

Sir,

Many babies are born premature, in that case we will have to make adjustments to 273 days accordingly? Right?

Regards

Bhuwan

 

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >ALL MEMBERS <@gro ups.com>Cc: Punit <Panday (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Wed, 23 December, 2009 9:11:16 PM Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...

 

 

Dear Members,

Research conducted by Linda Goodman as published in her book,and the observation of Llewylyn George shows that "The position of the Moon at Epoch", or the time of the egg getting fertilised by the sperm, represents the degrees, minutes and seconds of the Ascendant of the Birth Chart.

This and some more interesting information is also given on this by Linda Goodman in her book and she calls this subject Astrobiology. ..

To find out the day of Epoch,count 273 days backwards from the day of the birth of the child...and you will arrive at the approximate day of conception.. .the actual moment of conception is when the actual human generation commences...

Further research had shown that the Ruling Planets at Birth,are the same those at the time of conception...(and also...at the death of the human being...) !

Punit,TW,Senthil and others could kindly do some further deep and new research in this area...and ensure to use the New K.P. Ayanamsa... and then pass their own judgement based on facts and not on superficial studies or "feelings" or prejudices.. .

Linda Goodman has also shown that the distance between the Sun and Moon in the Mother's chart is also seen in the newborn's Birth Chart...This fact was already known,very well, to our sages of old...! !

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Sujata,

Thank you very much...you have tested our Guruji's theory and have proved him to be right...

I hope many of the "Doubting Thomases" on this site will have their doubts cleared Once And For All.

With kind regards,

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

sujata das <sujatadash1Sent: Fri, 25 December, 2009 12:12:28 AMRe: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...

 

 

FriendsMy daughter was born on 13 -8 83, about a week after due date. I calculated 273 days backward at random time of 11-31pm, on 15-4-82, and the moon was transiting ju sa ve, her ascendant. I was really surprised.Another day, I was worried about ve being the csl of 6 7 8 of my daughter, and I thought I would check up the Rps, And they came out to b ju sa ven againRPs are a divine guidanceRegardsSujata

 

 

 

Bhuwan Agrawal <bhuwan.agrawal@ ..com>@gro ups.comThu, 24 December, 2009 6:50:57 PMRe: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...

 

 

Sir,

Many babies are born premature, in that case we will have to make adjustments to 273 days accordingly? Right?

Regards

Bhuwan

 

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >ALL MEMBERS <@gro ups.com>Cc: Punit <Panday (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Wed, 23 December, 2009 9:11:16 PM Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...

 

 

Dear Members,

Research conducted by Linda Goodman as published in her book,and the observation of Llewylyn George shows that "The position of the Moon at Epoch", or the time of the egg getting fertilised by the sperm, represents the degrees, minutes and seconds of the Ascendant of the Birth Chart.

This and some more interesting information is also given on this by Linda Goodman in her book and she calls this subject Astrobiology. ..

To find out the day of Epoch,count 273 days backwards from the day of the birth of the child...and you will arrive at the approximate day of conception.. .the actual moment of conception is when the actual human generation commences...

Further research had shown that the Ruling Planets at Birth,are the same those at the time of conception...(and also...at the death of the human being...) !

Punit,TW,Senthil and others could kindly do some further deep and new research in this area...and ensure to use the New K.P. Ayanamsa... and then pass their own judgement based on facts and not on superficial studies or "feelings" or prejudices... .

Linda Goodman has also shown that the distance between the Sun and Moon in the Mother's chart is also seen in the newborn's Birth Chart...This fact was already known,very well, to our sages of old...! !

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi

 

See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.

 

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Dear all Gurujis,I have gone through the recent edition of "Timings of Events" book from Krishman Publishers and also the majority of natal charts in the KP readers. In most of these charts the rule "asc sublord should be moon's star lord and the asc subsub lord should be moon's sublord" is not satisfied.When the KP readers themselves discuss about natal charts when the rule is not satisfied, what is the sanctity for this rule?RegardsGopalSent from my BlackBerry®powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmiFri, 25 Dec 2009 03:18:07 -0800 (PST)Cc: sujata das<sujatadash1Re: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT... Dear Sujata, Thank you very much...you have tested our Guruji's theory and have proved him to be right... I hope many of the "Doubting Thomases" on this site will have their doubts cleared Once And For All. With kind regards, Yogesh Lajmi.sujata das <sujatadash1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> (AT) (DOT) .comSent: Fri, 25 December, 2009 12:12:28 AMRe: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT... FriendsMy daughter was born on 13 -8 83, about a week after due date. I calculated 273 days backward at random time of 11-31pm, on 15-4-82, and the moon was transiting ju sa ve, her ascendant. I was really surprised.Another day, I was worried about ve being the csl of 6 7 8 of my daughter, and I thought I would check up the Rps, And they came out to b ju sa ven againRPs are a divine guidanceRegardsSujataBhuwan Agrawal <bhuwan.agrawal@ ..com>@gro ups.comThu, 24 December, 2009 6:50:57 PMRe: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT... Sir,Many babies are born premature, in that case we will have to make adjustments to 273 days accordingly? Right?RegardsBhuwanYogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >ALL MEMBERS <@gro ups.com>Cc: Punit <Panday (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Wed, 23 December, 2009 9:11:16 PM Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT... Dear Members, Research conducted by Linda Goodman as published in her book,and the observation of Llewylyn George shows that "The position of the Moon at Epoch", or the time of the egg getting fertilised by the sperm, represents the degrees, minutes and seconds of the Ascendant of the Birth Chart. This and some more interesting information is also given on this by Linda Goodman in her book and she calls this subject Astrobiology. .. To find out the day of Epoch,count 273 days backwards from the day of the birth of the child...and you will arrive at the approximate day of conception.. .the actual moment of conception is when the actual human generation commences... Further research had shown that the Ruling Planets at Birth,are the same those at the time of conception...(and also...at the death of the human being...) ! Punit,TW,Senthil and others could kindly do some further deep and new research in this area...and ensure to use the New K.P. Ayanamsa... and then pass their own judgement based on facts and not on superficial studies or "feelings" or prejudices... . Linda Goodman has also shown that the distance between the Sun and Moon in the Mother's chart is also seen in the newborn's Birth Chart...This fact was already known,very well, to our sages of old...! ! With best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.

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Dear Friends,

Without using his invented RPs, any non-RP-based BRT is not Guruji KSK's

recommended theory.

Regards,

TW

 

, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote:

>

> Dear Sujata,

>                   Thank you very much...you have tested our

Guruji's theory and have proved him to be right...

>                    I hope many of the " Doubting Thomases " on

this site will have their doubts cleared Once And For All.

>                   With kind regards,

>                   Yogesh Lajmi.

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> sujata das <sujatadash1

>

> Fri, 25 December, 2009 12:12:28 AM

> Re: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could

come in very handy for RBT...

>

>  

> Friends

> My daughter was born on 13 -8 83, about a week after due date. I calculated

273 days backward at random time of 11-31pm, on 15-4-82, and the moon was

transiting ju sa ve, her ascendant. I was really surprised.

> Another day, I was worried about ve being the csl of 6 7 8 of my daughter, and

I thought I would check up the Rps, And they came out to b ju sa ven again

> RPs are a divine guidance

> Regards

> Sujata

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Bhuwan Agrawal <bhuwan.agrawal@ >

> @gro ups.com

> Thu, 24 December, 2009 6:50:57 PM

> Re: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could

come in very handy for RBT...

>

>  

> Sir,

> Many babies are born premature, in that case we will have to make adjustments

to 273 days  accordingly? Right?

> Regards

> Bhuwan

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >

> ALL MEMBERS <@gro ups.com>

> Cc: Punit <Panday (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> Wed, 23 December, 2009 9:11:16 PM

> Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come

in very handy for RBT...

>

>  

> Dear Members,

>                        Research conducted by Linda

Goodman as published in her book,and the observation of Llewylyn George shows

that " The position of the Moon at Epoch " , or the time of the egg getting

fertilised by the sperm, represents the degrees, minutes and seconds of the

Ascendant  of the Birth Chart.

>                       This and some more interesting

information is also given on this by Linda Goodman in her book and she calls

this subject Astrobiology. ..

>                       To find out the day of Epoch,count

273 days backwards from the day of the birth of the child...and you will arrive

at the approximate day of conception.. .the actual moment of conception is when

the actual human generation commences...

>                       Further research had shown that the

Ruling Planets at Birth,are the same those at the time of conception...(and

also...at the death of the human being...) !

>                       Punit,TW,Senthil and others could

kindly do some further deep and new research in this area...and ensure to use

the New K.P. Ayanamsa... and then pass their own judgement based on facts and

not on superficial studies or " feelings " or prejudices.. .

>                       Linda Goodman has also shown that

the distance between the Sun and Moon in the Mother's chart is also seen in the

newborn's Birth Chart...This fact was already known,very well, to our sages of

old...! !

>                       With best wishes,

>                       Yogesh Lajmi

>                      

>                     

>                      

>                      

> ________________________________

> See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.

> ________________________________

> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

> ________________________________

> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

>

>

>

>

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__

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Dear Gopal,

The rule you have quoted is applicable only when the TOB is + or - 20 -25 minutes away from the exact TOB....not for every birth...

For births where this is not applicable, the Ruling Planets Method is suitable...

Pl. desist from quoting K,P. Rules wrongly only to try and discredit K.P.

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

"subragops3" <subragops3Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi; Cc: sujata das <sujatadash1Fri, 25 December, 2009 10:14:57 PMRe: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...

Dear all Gurujis,I have gone through the recent edition of "Timings of Events" book from Krishman Publishers and also the majority of natal charts in the KP readers. In most of these charts the rule "asc sublord should be moon's star lord and the asc subsub lord should be moon's sublord" is not satisfied.When the KP readers themselves discuss about natal charts when the rule is not satisfied, what is the sanctity for this rule?RegardsGopal

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Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >

Fri, 25 Dec 2009 03:18:07 -0800 (PST)

<@gro ups.com>

Cc: sujata das<sujatadash1@ .co. in>

Re: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...

 

 

Dear Sujata,

Thank you very much...you have tested our Guruji's theory and have proved him to be right...

I hope many of the "Doubting Thomases" on this site will have their doubts cleared Once And For All.

With kind regards,

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>@gro ups..comFri, 25 December, 2009 12:12:28 AMRe: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...

 

 

FriendsMy daughter was born on 13 -8 83, about a week after due date. I calculated 273 days backward at random time of 11-31pm, on 15-4-82, and the moon was transiting ju sa ve, her ascendant. I was really surprised.Another day, I was worried about ve being the csl of 6 7 8 of my daughter, and I thought I would check up the Rps, And they came out to b ju sa ven againRPs are a divine guidanceRegardsSujata

 

 

 

Bhuwan Agrawal <bhuwan.agrawal@ ..com>@gro ups.comThu, 24 December, 2009 6:50:57 PMRe: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...

 

 

Sir,

Many babies are born premature, in that case we will have to make adjustments to 273 days accordingly? Right?

Regards

Bhuwan

 

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >ALL MEMBERS <@gro ups.com>Cc: Punit <Panday (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Wed, 23 December, 2009 9:11:16 PM Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...

 

 

Dear Members,

Research conducted by Linda Goodman as published in her book,and the observation of Llewylyn George shows that "The position of the Moon at Epoch", or the time of the egg getting fertilised by the sperm, represents the degrees, minutes and seconds of the Ascendant of the Birth Chart.

This and some more interesting information is also given on this by Linda Goodman in her book and she calls this subject Astrobiology. ..

To find out the day of Epoch,count 273 days backwards from the day of the birth of the child...and you will arrive at the approximate day of conception.. .the actual moment of conception is when the actual human generation commences...

Further research had shown that the Ruling Planets at Birth,are the same those at the time of conception...(and also...at the death of the human being...) !

Punit,TW,Senthil and others could kindly do some further deep and new research in this area...and ensure to use the New K.P. Ayanamsa... and then pass their own judgement based on facts and not on superficial studies or "feelings" or prejudices.. . .

Linda Goodman has also shown that the distance between the Sun and Moon in the Mother's chart is also seen in the newborn's Birth Chart...This fact was already known,very well, to our sages of old...! !

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi

 

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Dear Friends,

1. It's true that none of 59 natal charts ( 26, 17 & 16 charts in Part I, II &

III of " Timing of Events " by K. Hariharan, Krishnamurti Publications, 2008,

respectively is found satisfied the following BTR rule.

" Asc Sub = Moon Star & simultaneously Asc Sub-Sub = Moon Sub "

(Note: Only 1st condition is met in the natal charts on pp 62, 75, 88 & 281 of

Part I; pp 59, 88 & 101 of Part II and p 35 of Part III.)

2. None of 32 astrlogers's horoscopes tallies with this rule as posted in the

File section under:

Asc Sub = Moon Star & Asc Sub-Sub = Moon Sub Rule.doc

Explanation of the Test Results

3. Only 2 of the 304 AA sample charts are found passed this rule, i.e. 0.7% (as

posted in the above mentioned file).

/message/30162

4. This is exactly the same result of (Punit's method of BTR - by " kidding " )

where he says that Sun's star lord and sub-lord must appear as the sub-lord and

sub-sub lord of the ascendant.

/message/22235

/message/22702

5. Any natal chart cannot be not found satisfied this rule in the publizied new

book of Astrsecrets & KP, Part IV, Rectification of Birth Time, which is just a

collection of articles from the old A & A magazines. Someone may help to find

such charts there.

Thanks and regards,

TW

 

 

, subragops3 wrote:

>

> Dear all Gurujis,

>

> I have gone through the recent edition of " Timings of Events " book from

Krishman Publishers and also the majority of natal charts in the KP readers. In

most of these charts the rule " asc sublord should be moon's star lord and the

asc subsub lord should be moon's sublord " is not satisfied.

>

> When the KP readers themselves discuss about natal charts when the rule is not

satisfied, what is the sanctity for this rule?

>

> Regards

> Gopal

> Sent from my BlackBerry®

> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT

>

>

> Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi

> Fri, 25 Dec 2009 03:18:07

>

> Cc: sujata das<sujatadash1

> Re: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could

come in very handy for RBT...

>

> Dear Sujata,

>                   Thank you very much...you have tested our

Guruji's theory and have proved him to be right...

>                    I hope many of the " Doubting Thomases " on

this site will have their doubts cleared Once And For All.

>                   With kind regards,

>                   Yogesh Lajmi.

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> sujata das <sujatadash1

>

> Fri, 25 December, 2009 12:12:28 AM

> Re: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could

come in very handy for RBT...

>

>  

> Friends

> My daughter was born on 13 -8 83, about a week after due date. I calculated

273 days backward at random time of 11-31pm, on 15-4-82, and the moon was

transiting ju sa ve, her ascendant. I was really surprised.

> Another day, I was worried about ve being the csl of 6 7 8 of my daughter, and

I thought I would check up the Rps, And they came out to b ju sa ven again

> RPs are a divine guidance

> Regards

> Sujata

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Bhuwan Agrawal <bhuwan.agrawal@ >

> @gro ups.com

> Thu, 24 December, 2009 6:50:57 PM

> Re: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could

come in very handy for RBT...

>

>  

> Sir,

> Many babies are born premature, in that case we will have to make adjustments

to 273 days  accordingly? Right?

> Regards

> Bhuwan

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >

> ALL MEMBERS <@gro ups.com>

> Cc: Punit <Panday (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> Wed, 23 December, 2009 9:11:16 PM

> Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come

in very handy for RBT...

>

>  

> Dear Members,

>                        Research conducted by Linda

Goodman as published in her book,and the observation of Llewylyn George shows

that " The position of the Moon at Epoch " , or the time of the egg getting

fertilised by the sperm, represents the degrees, minutes and seconds of the

Ascendant  of the Birth Chart.

>                       This and some more interesting

information is also given on this by Linda Goodman in her book and she calls

this subject Astrobiology. ..

>                       To find out the day of Epoch,count

273 days backwards from the day of the birth of the child...and you will arrive

at the approximate day of conception.. .the actual moment of conception is when

the actual human generation commences...

>                       Further research had shown that the

Ruling Planets at Birth,are the same those at the time of conception...(and

also...at the death of the human being...) !

>                       Punit,TW,Senthil and others could

kindly do some further deep and new research in this area...and ensure to use

the New K.P. Ayanamsa... and then pass their own judgement based on facts and

not on superficial studies or " feelings " or prejudices.. .

>                       Linda Goodman has also shown that

the distance between the Sun and Moon in the Mother's chart is also seen in the

newborn's Birth Chart...This fact was already known,very well, to our sages of

old...! !

>                       With best wishes,

>                       Yogesh Lajmi

>                      

>                     

>                      

>                      

> ________________________________

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Dear Gopal,

 

From you statement I can understand that the Example charts presented in the book doesn't match the RULE "asc sublord should be moon's star lord and the asc subsub lord should be moon's sublord". Can you please check few charts which are within + or - 25 minutes away and confirm. If this is the case, the natal charts (which are not matching the above Rule & having + or - 25 minutes away) presented in various books/article by various authors can be taken as WRONG charts (IS IT CORRECT?). Can we take that the authors are discussion with SUCH WRONG BIRTH CHARTS????

 

GOOD LUCK!!

 

D.Senthil--- On Fri, 12/25/09, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote:

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmiRe: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT... Cc: "subragops3" <subragops3Friday, December 25, 2009, 11:30 PM

 

 

Dear Gopal,

The rule you have quoted is applicable only when the TOB is + or - 20 -25 minutes away from the exact TOB....not for every birth...

For births where this is not applicable, the Ruling Planets Method is suitable...

Pl. desist from quoting K,P. Rules wrongly only to try and discredit K.P.

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

"subragops3@ " <subragops3 >Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >; @gro ups.comCc: sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>Fri, 25 December, 2009 10:14:57 PMRe: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...

Dear all Gurujis,I have gone through the recent edition of "Timings of Events" book from Krishman Publishers and also the majority of natal charts in the KP readers. In most of these charts the rule "asc sublord should be moon's star lord and the asc subsub lord should be moon's sublord" is not satisfied.When the KP readers themselves discuss about natal charts when the rule is not satisfied, what is the sanctity for this rule?RegardsGopal Sent from my BlackBerry®powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT

 

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >

Fri, 25 Dec 2009 03:18:07 -0800 (PST)

<@gro ups.com>

Cc: sujata das<sujatadash1@ .co. in>

Re: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...

 

 

Dear Sujata,

Thank you very much...you have tested our Guruji's theory and have proved him to be right...

I hope many of the "Doubting Thomases" on this site will have their doubts cleared Once And For All.

With kind regards,

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>@gro ups..comFri, 25 December, 2009 12:12:28 AMRe: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...

 

 

FriendsMy daughter was born on 13 -8 83, about a week after due date. I calculated 273 days backward at random time of 11-31pm, on 15-4-82, and the moon was transiting ju sa ve, her ascendant. I was really surprised.Another day, I was worried about ve being the csl of 6 7 8 of my daughter, and I thought I would check up the Rps, And they came out to b ju sa ven againRPs are a divine guidanceRegardsSujata

 

 

 

Bhuwan Agrawal <bhuwan.agrawal@ ..com>@gro ups.comThu, 24 December, 2009 6:50:57 PMRe: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...

 

 

Sir,

Many babies are born premature, in that case we will have to make adjustments to 273 days accordingly? Right?

Regards

Bhuwan

 

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >ALL MEMBERS <@gro ups.com>Cc: Punit <Panday (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Wed, 23 December, 2009 9:11:16 PM Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...

 

 

Dear Members,

Research conducted by Linda Goodman as published in her book,and the observation of Llewylyn George shows that "The position of the Moon at Epoch", or the time of the egg getting fertilised by the sperm, represents the degrees, minutes and seconds of the Ascendant of the Birth Chart.

This and some more interesting information is also given on this by Linda Goodman in her book and she calls this subject Astrobiology. ..

To find out the day of Epoch,count 273 days backwards from the day of the birth of the child...and you will arrive at the approximate day of conception.. .the actual moment of conception is when the actual human generation commences...

Further research had shown that the Ruling Planets at Birth,are the same those at the time of conception...(and also...at the death of the human being...) !

Punit,TW,Senthil and others could kindly do some further deep and new research in this area...and ensure to use the New K.P. Ayanamsa... and then pass their own judgement based on facts and not on superficial studies or "feelings" or prejudices.. . .

Linda Goodman has also shown that the distance between the Sun and Moon in the Mother's chart is also seen in the newborn's Birth Chart...This fact was already known,very well, to our sages of old...! !

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi

 

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Dear Santhil,

 

Referring the following expalnation in the File section,

Asc Sub = Moon Star & Asc Sub-Sub = Moon Sub Rule.doc

Explanation of the Test Results

 

This BTR rule passes or satisfies or tallies:

1) pass for 2 (0.7%) charts, fail for 302 AA charts(99.3%) for the original

TOBs;

2) passes for 4 (1.3%) charts, fail for 300 (98.7%) charts for original TOBs + 5

min;

3) passes for 1 (0.3%) charts, fail for 303 (99.7%) charts for original TOBs +

10 min;

4) pass for 5 (1.6%) charts, fail for 299 (98,4%) charts for original TOBs + 15

min;

5) pass for 4 (1.3%) charts, fail for 300 (98.7%) charts for original TOBs + 20

min;

6) pass for 6 (2.0%) charts, fail for 298 (98.0%) charts for original TOBs + 25

min;

7) pass for 4 (1.3%) charts, fail for 300 (98.7%) charts for original TOBs + 30

min;

8) pass for 6 (2.0%) charts, fail for 298 (98.0%) charts for original TOBs - 5

min;

9) pass for 3 (1.0%) charts, fail for 301 (99.0%) charts for original TOBs - 10

min;

10) pass for 4 (1.3%) charts, fail for 300 (98.7%) charts for original TOBs - 15

min;

11) pass for 4 (1.3%) charts, fail for 300 (98.7%) charts for original TOBs -20

min;

12) pass for 7 (2.3%) charts, fail for 297 (97.7%) charts for original TOBs -25

min;

13) pass for 3 (1.0%) charts, fail for 301 (97.0%) charts for original TOBs - 30

min.

 

10. Whether the original TOB or original TOB +/- 5 or 10 or 15 or 20 or 25, the

accepting or passing rate of the said BTR rule is from 0,3% to 2,3% only and the

rejecting or failing rate is 99.7% to 97.7%; on average the accepting or

passing rate is 1,4% (51/3648) only and the rejecting or failing rate is 98.6%

(3597/3648).

11. Because of such highly bias to rejection or failure of around 98%, this Asc

Sub = Moon Star & simultaneously Asc Sub-Sub = Moon Sub BRT rule is not a

reliable technique for rectifying birth time.

 

Now the questions are:

 

1. Whether this rule is wrong? or

304 AA original TOB iw wrong?

304 Original TOB +/- 5 minutes is wrong?

304 Original TOB +/- 10 minutes is wrong?

304 Original TOB +/- 15 minutes is wrong?

304 Original TOB +/- 20 minutes is wrong?

304 Original TOB +/- 25 minutes is wrong?

304 Original TOB +/- 30 minutes is wrong?

 

" AA --- Accurate data as recorded by the family or state. This includes BC

(birth certificate), and BR (birth record), that which is not an official

document but a quote of the birth record from the Registrar or Bureau of

Records, the baptismal certificate, family Bible, or baby book. These data

reflect the best available accuracy. "

 

2. Whether this rule has been given wrong? or

Whether K.S. Krishnamurti had taken and given wrong TOB of his own?

Whether B V Raman had taken and given wrong TOB of his own?

Whether Alan Leo had taken and given wrong TOB of his own?

Whether other 29 astrologers also have taken and given wrong TOBs of their own?

 

3. In the presentation of your BTR attempt in this group not long ago,

Whether the original TOB given by you satisfies this rule?

Whether the TOB rectified by you satisfies this rule?

Whether the TOB rectifed by Dr. Rath satisfies this rule?

Whether the TOB rectified by any participant satisfies this rule?

 

4. In the recently done BTR attempt-1 by VGR Pavan,

Whether the given TOB by VGR Pavan satisfies this rule?

Whether the TOB rectified by any participant satisfies this rule?

 

5. Can you find any TOB which satisfies this rule in the KP six Readers or so

much publizied new book of Astrsecrets & KP, Part IV, Rectification of Birth

Time, edited by (late) Prof. K.S. Krishnamurti, Krishman & Co., 2009, or any

other printed KP books and magazines in English?

 

6. This non-RP based rule is not in line with Guruji KSK's guidance to use only

the RP-based BTR.

 

7. The reliability of this rule is found the same as 'Punit's method of BTR - by

" kidding " , as mentioned in point 4 of the following message:

/message/30319

 

The bottom line is:

Whether all the charts in the wohole KP literature is wrong?

or this rule is wrong?

 

Thanks and regards,

TW

 

 

 

 

, Senthil <athi_ram wrote:

>

> Dear Gopal,

>  

> From you statement I can understand that the Example charts presented in the

book doesn't match the RULE " asc sublord should be moon's star lord and the asc

subsub lord should be moon's sublord " . Can you please check few charts which

are within + or - 25 minutes away and confirm. If this is the case, the natal

charts (which are not matching the above Rule & having + or - 25 minutes away)

presented in various books/article by various authors can be taken as WRONG

charts (IS IT CORRECT?). Can we take that the authors are discussion with SUCH

WRONG BIRTH CHARTS????

>  

> GOOD LUCK!!

>  

> D.Senthil

>

> --- On Fri, 12/25/09, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote:

>

>

> Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi

> Re: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could

come in very handy for RBT...

>

> Cc: " subragops3 " <subragops3

> Friday, December 25, 2009, 11:30 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Gopal,

>                  The rule you have quoted is applicable only

when the TOB is + or - 20 -25 minutes away from the exact TOB....not for every

birth...

>                  For births where this is not applicable, the

Ruling Planets Method is suitable...

>                  Pl. desist from quoting K,P. Rules wrongly

only to try and discredit K.P.

>                 Yogesh Lajmi.

>            

>

>

>

>

>

> " subragops3@ " <subragops3 >

> Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >; @gro ups.com

> Cc: sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>

> Fri, 25 December, 2009 10:14:57 PM

> Re: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could

come in very handy for RBT...

>

>  

>

> Dear all Gurujis,

>

> I have gone through the recent edition of " Timings of Events " book from

Krishman Publishers and also the majority of natal charts in the KP readers. In

most of these charts the rule " asc sublord should be moon's star lord and the

asc subsub lord should be moon's sublord " is not satisfied.

>

> When the KP readers themselves discuss about natal charts when the rule is not

satisfied, what is the sanctity for this rule?

>

> Regards

> Gopal

> Sent from my BlackBerry®

> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT

>

>

> Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >

> Fri, 25 Dec 2009 03:18:07 -0800 (PST)

> <@gro ups.com>

> Cc: sujata das<sujatadash1@ .co. in>

> Re: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could

come in very handy for RBT...

>

>  

>

>

>

> Dear Sujata,

>                   Thank you very much...you have tested our

Guruji's theory and have proved him to be right...

>                    I hope many of the " Doubting Thomases " on

this site will have their doubts cleared Once And For All.

>                   With kind regards,

>                   Yogesh Lajmi.

>

>

>

>

>

> sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>

> @gro ups..com

> Fri, 25 December, 2009 12:12:28 AM

> Re: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could

come in very handy for RBT...

>

>  

>

>

>

> Friends

> My daughter was born on 13 -8 83, about a week after due date. I calculated

273 days backward at random time of 11-31pm, on 15-4-82, and the moon was

transiting ju sa ve, her ascendant. I was really surprised.

> Another day, I was worried about ve being the csl of 6 7 8 of my daughter, and

I thought I would check up the Rps, And they came out to b ju sa ven again

> RPs are a divine guidance

> Regards

> Sujata

>

>

>

>

>

> Bhuwan Agrawal <bhuwan.agrawal@ ..com>

> @gro ups.com

> Thu, 24 December, 2009 6:50:57 PM

> Re: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could

come in very handy for RBT...

>

>  

>

>

>

> Sir,

> Many babies are born premature, in that case we will have to make adjustments

to 273 days  accordingly? Right?

> Regards

> Bhuwan

>

>

>

>

>

> Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >

> ALL MEMBERS <@gro ups.com>

> Cc: Punit <Panday (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> Wed, 23 December, 2009 9:11:16 PM

> Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come

in very handy for RBT...

>

>  

>

>

>

> Dear Members,

>                        Research conducted by Linda

Goodman as published in her book,and the observation of Llewylyn George shows

that " The position of the Moon at Epoch " , or the time of the egg getting

fertilised by the sperm, represents the degrees, minutes and seconds of the

Ascendant  of the Birth Chart.

>                       This and some more interesting

information is also given on this by Linda Goodman in her book and she calls

this subject Astrobiology. ..

>                       To find out the day of Epoch,count

273 days backwards from the day of the birth of the child...and you will arrive

at the approximate day of conception.. .the actual moment of conception is when

the actual human generation commences...

>                       Further research had shown that the

Ruling Planets at Birth,are the same those at the time of conception...(and

also...at the death of the human being...) !

>                       Punit,TW,Senthil and others could

kindly do some further deep and new research in this area...and ensure to use

the New K.P. Ayanamsa... and then pass their own judgement based on facts and

not on superficial studies or " feelings " or prejudices.. . .

>                       Linda Goodman has also shown that

the distance between the Sun and Moon in the Mother's chart is also seen in the

newborn's Birth Chart...This fact was already known,very well, to our sages of

old...! !

>                       With best wishes,

>                       Yogesh Lajmi

>                      

>                     

>                      

>                      

>

>

> See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.

>

>

> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

>

>

>

> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

>

>

> See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.

>

>

> See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.

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[Guest guest]

/message/16098?threaded=1 & l=1

/message/17262?threaded=1 & l=1

 

 

, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote:

>

> Dear Gopal,

>                  The rule you have quoted is applicable only

when the TOB is + or - 20 -25 minutes away from the exact TOB...not for every

birth...

>                  For births where this is not applicable, the

Ruling Planets Method is suitable...

>                  Pl. desist from quoting K,P. Rules wrongly

only to try and discredit K.P.

>                 Yogesh Lajmi.

>            

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> " subragops3 " <subragops3

> Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi;

> Cc: sujata das <sujatadash1

> Fri, 25 December, 2009 10:14:57 PM

> Re: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could

come in very handy for RBT...

>

>  

> Dear all Gurujis,

>

> I have gone through the recent edition of " Timings of Events " book from

Krishman Publishers and also the majority of natal charts in the KP readers. In

most of these charts the rule " asc sublord should be moon's star lord and the

asc subsub lord should be moon's sublord " is not satisfied.

>

> When the KP readers themselves discuss about natal charts when the rule is not

satisfied, what is the sanctity for this rule?

>

> Regards

> Gopal

> Sent from my BlackBerry®

> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT

> ________________________________

>

> Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >

> Fri, 25 Dec 2009 03:18:07 -0800 (PST)

> <@gro ups.com>

> Cc: sujata das<sujatadash1@ .co. in>

> Re: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could

come in very handy for RBT...

>  

> Dear Sujata,

>                   Thank you very much...you have tested our

Guruji's theory and have proved him to be right...

>                    I hope many of the " Doubting Thomases " on

this site will have their doubts cleared Once And For All.

>                   With kind regards,

>                   Yogesh Lajmi.

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>

> @gro ups..com

> Fri, 25 December, 2009 12:12:28 AM

> Re: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could

come in very handy for RBT...

>

>  

> Friends

> My daughter was born on 13 -8 83, about a week after due date. I calculated

273 days backward at random time of 11-31pm, on 15-4-82, and the moon was

transiting ju sa ve, her ascendant. I was really surprised.

> Another day, I was worried about ve being the csl of 6 7 8 of my daughter, and

I thought I would check up the Rps, And they came out to b ju sa ven again

> RPs are a divine guidance

> Regards

> Sujata

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Bhuwan Agrawal <bhuwan..agrawal@ ..com>

> @gro ups.com

> Thu, 24 December, 2009 6:50:57 PM

> Re: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could

come in very handy for RBT...

>

>  

> Sir,

> Many babies are born premature, in that case we will have to make adjustments

to 273 days  accordingly? Right?

> Regards

> Bhuwan

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >

> ALL MEMBERS <@gro ups.com>

> Cc: Punit <Panday (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> Wed, 23 December, 2009 9:11:16 PM

> Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come

in very handy for RBT...

>

>  

> Dear Members,

>                        Research conducted by Linda

Goodman as published in her book,and the observation of Llewylyn George shows

that " The position of the Moon at Epoch " , or the time of the egg getting

fertilised by the sperm, represents the degrees, minutes and seconds of the

Ascendant  of the Birth Chart.

>                       This and some more interesting

information is also given on this by Linda Goodman in her book and she calls

this subject Astrobiology. ..

>                       To find out the day of Epoch,count

273 days backwards from the day of the birth of the child...and you will arrive

at the approximate day of conception.. .the actual moment of conception is when

the actual human generation commences...

>                       Further research had shown that the

Ruling Planets at Birth,are the same those at the time of conception...(and

also...at the death of the human being...) !

>                       Punit,TW,Senthil and others could

kindly do some further deep and new research in this area...and ensure to use

the New K.P. Ayanamsa... and then pass their own judgement based on facts and

not on superficial studies or " feelings " or prejudices.. . .

>                       Linda Goodman has also shown that

the distance between the Sun and Moon in the Mother's chart is also seen in the

newborn's Birth Chart...This fact was already known,very well, to our sages of

old...! !

>                       With best wishes,

>                       Yogesh Lajmi

>                      

>                     

>                      

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Dear Sirs,

 

// The rule you have quoted is applicable only when the TOB is + or - 20

-25 minutes away from the exact TOB....not for every birth...//

 

In other words, do you imply that this rule should not be used, applied,

or checked where there is no doubt of the birth time to be either 20 or

25 minutes before, or after the recorded Birth time ?

 

In other words you are implying that if the native thinks that his

recorded birth time is perfect, then there is no necessity to apply this

rule ? In such cases what if the ascendant sublord does not match the

Moons starLord ? Then should we ignore the mismatch of the rule, if any

? Or should we sit down to rectify the birth time as per the rules ? In

the latter case then again there is risk of the recorded time moving too

far off its recorded mark.

 

Are you also implying that in cases where there is just +- 5 minutes we

mjust not apply this Asc-Moon connection rule but just select the

sublord from the RP's and close the matter ?

 

regards,

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote:

>

> Dear Gopal,

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

  The rule you have quoted is applicable only when the TOB is +

or - 20 -25 minutes away from the exact TOB...not for every birth...

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

  For births where this is not applicable, the Ruling

Planets Method is suitable...

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

  Pl. desist from quoting K,P. Rules wrongly only to try and

discredit K.P.

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

  Yogesh Lajmi.

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> " subragops3 " subragops3

> Yogesh Lajmi yogeshlajmi;

> Cc: sujata das sujatadash1

> Fri, 25 December, 2009 10:14:57 PM

> Re: Some interesting points on Ruling

Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...

>

> Â

> Dear all Gurujis,

>

> I have gone through the recent edition of " Timings of Events " book

from Krishman Publishers and also the majority of natal charts in the KP

readers. In most of these charts the rule " asc sublord should be moon's

star lord and the asc subsub lord should be moon's sublord " is not

satisfied.

>

> When the KP readers themselves discuss about natal charts when the

rule is not satisfied, what is the sanctity for this rule?

>

> Regards

> Gopal

> Sent from my BlackBerry®

> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT

> ________________________________

>

> Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >

> Fri, 25 Dec 2009 03:18:07 -0800 (PST)

> @gro ups.com>

> Cc: sujata das<sujatadash1@ .co. in>

> Re: Some interesting points on Ruling

Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...

> Â

> Dear Sujata,

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

    Thank you very much...you have tested our Guruji's

theory and have proved him to be right...

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

    I hope many of the " Doubting Thomases " on this site

will have their doubts cleared Once And For All.

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

   With kind regards,

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

   Yogesh Lajmi.

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>

> @gro ups..com

> Fri, 25 December, 2009 12:12:28 AM

> Re: Some interesting points on Ruling

Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...

>

> Â

> Friends

> My daughter was born on 13 -8 83, about a week after due date. I

calculated 273 days backward at random time of 11-31pm, on 15-4-82, and

the moon was transiting ju sa ve, her ascendant. I was really surprised.

> Another day, I was worried about ve being the csl of 6 7 8 of my

daughter, and I thought I would check up the Rps, And they came out to b

ju sa ven again

> RPs are a divine guidance

> Regards

> Sujata

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Bhuwan Agrawal <bhuwan..agrawal@ ..com>

> @gro ups.com

> Thu, 24 December, 2009 6:50:57 PM

> Re: Some interesting points on Ruling

Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...

>

> Â

> Sir,

> Many babies are born premature, in that case we will have to make

adjustments to 273 days accordingly? Right?

> Regards

> Bhuwan

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >

> ALL MEMBERS @gro ups.com>

> Cc: Punit Panday (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> Wed, 23 December, 2009 9:11:16 PM

> Some interesting points on Ruling

Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...

>

> Â

> Dear Members,

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

         Research conducted by Linda

Goodman as published in her book,and the observation of Llewylyn George

shows that " The position of the Moon at Epoch " , or the time of the egg

getting fertilised by the sperm, represents the degrees, minutes and

seconds of the Ascendant of the Birth Chart.

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

        This and some more interesting

information is also given on this by Linda Goodman in her book and she

calls this subject Astrobiology. ..

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

       To find out the day of Epoch,count

273 days backwards from the day of the birth of the child...and you will

arrive at the approximate day of conception.. .the actual moment of

conception is when the actual human generation commences...

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

       Further research had shown that the

Ruling Planets at Birth,are the same those at the time of

conception...(and also...at the death of the human being...) !

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

       Punit,TW,Senthil and others could

kindly do some further deep and new research in this area...and ensure

to use the New K.P. Ayanamsa... and then pass their own judgement

based on facts and not on superficial studies or " feelings " or

prejudices.. . .

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

       Linda Goodman has also shown that

the distance between the Sun and Moon in the Mother's chart is also

seen in the newborn's Birth Chart...This fact was already known,very

well, to our sages of old...! !

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

       With best wishes,

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

        Yogesh Lajmi

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

      Â

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

     Â

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

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Dear Bhaskar,

The rule is applicable,whenever the querant says ...." I'm not sure ...but it is some time around xyz hrs and wv minutes,around the TOB..."

In all other cases the Ruling Planets...are the best method to employ....

It is well nigh impossible to record the exact Time of Birth...because different people in different parts of India consider Birth Time differently...hence as a matter of practise,I always correct the TOB,as per K.P. System before proceeding to analyse the given/presented chart for analysis...

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Mon, 28 December, 2009 12:37:30 AM Re: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...

Dear Sirs,// The rule you have quoted is applicable only when the TOB is + or - 20-25 minutes away from the exact TOB....not for every birth...//In other words, do you imply that this rule should not be used, applied,or checked where there is no doubt of the birth time to be either 20 or25 minutes before, or after the recorded Birth time ?In other words you are implying that if the native thinks that hisrecorded birth time is perfect, then there is no necessity to apply thisrule ? In such cases what if the ascendant sublord does not match theMoons starLord ? Then should we ignore the mismatch of the rule, if any? Or should we sit down to rectify the birth time as per the rules ? Inthe latter case then again there is risk of the recorded time moving toofar off its recorded mark.Are you also implying that in cases where there is just +- 5 minutes wemjust not apply this Asc-Moon

connection rule but just select thesublord from the RP's and close the matter ?regards,Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Gopal,>              Â  The rule you have quoted is applicable only when the TOB is +or - 20 -25 minutes away from the exact TOB...not for every birth...>              Â  For births where this is not applicable, the RulingPlanets Method is suitable...>              Â  Pl. desist from quoting K,P. Rules wrongly only to try anddiscredit K.P.>              Â  Yogesh Lajmi.>          Â

Â>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> "subragops3@ ..." subragops3@. ..> Yogesh Lajmi yogeshlajmi@ ...; @gro ups.com> Cc: sujata das sujatadash1@ ...> Fri, 25 December, 2009 10:14:57 PM> Re: Some interesting points on RulingPlanets...could come in very handy for RBT...>> Â> Dear all Gurujis,>> I have gone through the recent edition of "Timings of Events" bookfrom Krishman Publishers and also the majority of natal charts in the KPreaders. In most of these charts the rule "asc sublord should be moon'sstar lord and the asc subsub lord should be moon's sublord" is notsatisfied.>> When the KP readers themselves discuss about natal charts

when therule is not satisfied, what is the sanctity for this rule?>> Regards> Gopal> Sent from my BlackBerry®> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT> ____________ _________ _________ __>> Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >> Fri, 25 Dec 2009 03:18:07 -0800 (PST)> @gro ups.com>> Cc: sujata das<sujatadash1@ .co. in>> Re: Some interesting points on RulingPlanets...could come in very handy for RBT...> Â> Dear Sujata,>              Â    Thank you very much...you have tested our Guruji'stheory and have proved him to be right...>              Â    I hope many of the "Doubting Thomases" on this sitewill have their doubts cleared Once And For All.>           Â

  Â   With kind regards,>              Â   Yogesh Lajmi.>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>> @gro ups..com> Fri, 25 December, 2009 12:12:28 AM> Re: Some interesting points on RulingPlanets...could come in very handy for RBT...>> Â> Friends> My daughter was born on 13 -8 83, about a week after due date. Icalculated 273 days backward at random time of 11-31pm, on 15-4-82, andthe moon was transiting ju sa ve, her ascendant. I was really surprised.> Another day, I was worried about ve being the csl of 6 7 8 of mydaughter, and I thought I would check up the Rps, And they came out to bju sa ven again> RPs are a divine guidance> Regards>

Sujata>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Bhuwan Agrawal <bhuwan..agrawal@ ..com>> @gro ups.com> Thu, 24 December, 2009 6:50:57 PM> Re: Some interesting points on RulingPlanets...could come in very handy for RBT...>> Â> Sir,> Many babies are born premature, in that case we will have to makeadjustments to 273 days accordingly? Right?> Regards> Bhuwan>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ..com>> ALL MEMBERS @gro ups.com>> Cc: Punit Panday (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> Wed, 23 December, 2009 9:11:16 PM> Some interesting points on RulingPlanets...could come in very handy for RBT...>> Â> Dear

Members,>              Â         Research conducted by LindaGoodman as published in her book,and the observation of Llewylyn Georgeshows that "The position of the Moon at Epoch", or the time of the egggetting fertilised by the sperm, represents the degrees, minutes andseconds of the Ascendant of the Birth Chart.>              Â        This and some more interestinginformation is also given on this by Linda Goodman in her book and shecalls this subject Astrobiology. ..>              Â       To find out the day of Epoch,count273 days backwards from the day of the birth of the child...and you willarrive at the approximate day of conception.. .the actual moment ofconception is when the actual human generation commences...>          Â

   Â       Further research had shown that theRuling Planets at Birth,are the same those at the time ofconception.. .(and also...at the death of the human being...) !>              Â       Punit,TW,Senthil and others couldkindly do some further deep and new research in this area...and ensureto use the New K.P. Ayanamsa... and then pass their own judgementbased on facts and not on superficial studies or "feelings" orprejudices.. . .>              Â       Linda Goodman has also shown thatthe distance between the Sun and Moon in the Mother's chart is alsoseen in the newborn's Birth Chart...This fact was already known,verywell, to our sages of old...! !>              Â       With best wishes,>            Â

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Dear Tin Win,

 

Thanks for the reference data. I can say in one word that the RULE

 

" Natal Asc Sub =Natal Moon Star & Natal Asc Sub-Sub = Natal Moon Sub"

 

is not having any logic, Will not work & hence REJECTED.

GOOD LUCK!

 

D.Senthil

--- On Sun, 12/27/09, TW <tw853 wrote:

TW <tw853 Re: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT... Date: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 4:08 AM

Dear Santhil,Referring the following expalnation in the File section,Asc Sub = Moon Star & Asc Sub-Sub = Moon Sub Rule.doc Explanation of the Test ResultsThis BTR rule passes or satisfies or tallies: 1) pass for 2 (0.7%) charts, fail for 302 AA charts(99.3% ) for the original TOBs;2) passes for 4 (1.3%) charts, fail for 300 (98.7%) charts for original TOBs + 5 min;3) passes for 1 (0.3%) charts, fail for 303 (99.7%) charts for original TOBs + 10 min;4) pass for 5 (1.6%) charts, fail for 299 (98,4%) charts for original TOBs + 15 min;5) pass for 4 (1.3%) charts, fail for 300 (98.7%) charts for original TOBs + 20 min;6) pass for 6 (2.0%) charts, fail for 298 (98.0%) charts for original TOBs + 25 min;7) pass for 4 (1.3%) charts, fail for 300 (98.7%) charts for original TOBs + 30 min;8) pass for 6 (2.0%) charts, fail for 298 (98.0%) charts for original TOBs - 5 min;9) pass for 3 (1.0%)

charts, fail for 301 (99.0%) charts for original TOBs - 10 min;10) pass for 4 (1.3%) charts, fail for 300 (98.7%) charts for original TOBs - 15 min;11) pass for 4 (1.3%) charts, fail for 300 (98.7%) charts for original TOBs -20 min;12) pass for 7 (2.3%) charts, fail for 297 (97.7%) charts for original TOBs -25 min;13) pass for 3 (1.0%) charts, fail for 301 (97.0%) charts for original TOBs - 30 min.10. Whether the original TOB or original TOB +/- 5 or 10 or 15 or 20 or 25, the accepting or passing rate of the said BTR rule is from 0,3% to 2,3% only and the rejecting or failing rate is 99.7% to 97.7%; on average the accepting or passing rate is 1,4% (51/3648) only and the rejecting or failing rate is 98.6% (3597/3648).11. Because of such highly bias to rejection or failure of around 98%, this Asc Sub = Moon Star & simultaneously Asc Sub-Sub = Moon Sub BRT rule is not a reliable technique for rectifying birth time.

Now the questions are:1. Whether this rule is wrong? or304 AA original TOB iw wrong? 304 Original TOB +/- 5 minutes is wrong?304 Original TOB +/- 10 minutes is wrong?304 Original TOB +/- 15 minutes is wrong?304 Original TOB +/- 20 minutes is wrong?304 Original TOB +/- 25 minutes is wrong?304 Original TOB +/- 30 minutes is wrong?"AA --- Accurate data as recorded by the family or state. This includes BC (birth certificate) , and BR (birth record), that which is not an official document but a quote of the birth record from the Registrar or Bureau of Records, the baptismal certificate, family Bible, or baby book. These data reflect the best available accuracy."2. Whether this rule has been given wrong? orWhether K.S. Krishnamurti had taken and given wrong TOB of his own?Whether B V Raman had taken and given wrong TOB of his own?Whether Alan Leo had taken and given wrong TOB of his

own?Whether other 29 astrologers also have taken and given wrong TOBs of their own?3. In the presentation of your BTR attempt in this group not long ago,Whether the original TOB given by you satisfies this rule? Whether the TOB rectified by you satisfies this rule? Whether the TOB rectifed by Dr. Rath satisfies this rule?Whether the TOB rectified by any participant satisfies this rule? 4. In the recently done BTR attempt-1 by VGR Pavan,Whether the given TOB by VGR Pavan satisfies this rule? Whether the TOB rectified by any participant satisfies this rule? 5. Can you find any TOB which satisfies this rule in the KP six Readers or so much publizied new book of Astrsecrets & KP, Part IV, Rectification of Birth Time, edited by (late) Prof. K.S. Krishnamurti, Krishman & Co., 2009, or any other printed KP books and magazines in English?6. This non-RP based rule is not in line with Guruji

KSK's guidance to use only the RP-based BTR.7. The reliability of this rule is found the same as 'Punit's method of BTR - by "kidding", as mentioned in point 4 of the following message:http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 30319The bottom line is:Whether all the charts in the wohole KP literature is wrong? or this rule is wrong? Thanks and regards,TW @gro ups.com, Senthil <athi_ram@.. .> wrote:>> Dear Gopal,> Â > From you statement I can understand that the Example charts presented in the book doesn't match the RULE "asc sublord should be moon's star lord and the asc

subsub lord should be moon's sublord". Can you please check few charts which are within + or - 25 minutes away and confirm. If this is the case, the natal charts (which are not matching the above Rule & having + or - 25 minutes away) presented in various books/article by various authors can be taken as WRONG charts (IS IT CORRECT?). Can we take that the authors are discussion with SUCH WRONG BIRTH CHARTS????>  > GOOD LUCK!!>  > D.Senthil> > --- On Fri, 12/25/09, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote:> > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...>> Re: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...> @gro

ups.com> Cc: "subragops3@ ..." <subragops3@ ...>> Friday, December 25, 2009, 11:30 PM> > >  > > > > > > Dear Gopal,>                 The rule you have quoted is applicable only when the TOB is + or - 20 -25 minutes away from the exact TOB....not for every birth...>                 For births where this is not applicable, the Ruling Planets Method is suitable...>                 Pl. desist from quoting K,P. Rules wrongly only to try and discredit K.P.>

                Yogesh Lajmi.>            > > > > > > "subragops3@ " <subragops3>> Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >; @gro ups.com> Cc: sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>> Fri, 25 December, 2009 10:14:57 PM> Re: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...> >  > > Dear all Gurujis,> > I have gone through the recent edition of "Timings of Events" book from Krishman Publishers and also the majority of natal charts in the KP readers. In most of these charts the rule "asc sublord should be moon's star lord and the

asc subsub lord should be moon's sublord" is not satisfied.> > When the KP readers themselves discuss about natal charts when the rule is not satisfied, what is the sanctity for this rule?> > Regards> Gopal > Sent from my BlackBerry®> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT> > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > > Fri, 25 Dec 2009 03:18:07 -0800 (PST)> <@ gro ups.com>> Cc: sujata das<sujatadash1@ .co. in>> Re: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...> >  > > > > Dear Sujata,>                   Thank you very much...you have tested our Guruji's theory and have proved

him to be right...> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I hope many of the "Doubting Thomases" on this site will have their doubts cleared Once And For All.> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â With kind regards,> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Yogesh Lajmi.> > > > > > sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>> @gro ups..com> Fri, 25 December, 2009 12:12:28 AM> Re: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...> > Â > > > >

Friends> My daughter was born on 13 -8 83, about a week after due date. I calculated 273 days backward at random time of 11-31pm, on 15-4-82, and the moon was transiting ju sa ve, her ascendant. I was really surprised.> Another day, I was worried about ve being the csl of 6 7 8 of my daughter, and I thought I would check up the Rps, And they came out to b ju sa ven again> RPs are a divine guidance> Regards> Sujata> > > > > > Bhuwan Agrawal <bhuwan.agrawal@ ..com>> @gro ups.com> Thu, 24 December, 2009 6:50:57 PM> Re: Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...> >  > > > > Sir,> Many babies are born premature, in that case we will have to make adjustments to 273 days accordingly? Right?>

Regards> Bhuwan> > > > > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >> ALL MEMBERS <@ gro ups.com>> Cc: Punit <Panday (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> Wed, 23 December, 2009 9:11:16 PM> Some interesting points on Ruling Planets...could come in very handy for RBT...> >  > > > > Dear Members,>                        Research conducted by Linda Goodman as published in her book,and the observation of Llewylyn George shows that "The position of the Moon at Epoch", or the time of the egg getting fertilised by the sperm, represents the degrees, minutes and seconds of the Ascendant of the Birth Chart.>

                      This and some more interesting information is also given on this by Linda Goodman in her book and she calls this subject Astrobiology. ..>                      To find out the day of Epoch,count 273 days backwards from the day of the birth of the child...and you will arrive at the approximate day of conception.. .the actual moment of conception is when the actual human generation commences...>                      Further research had shown that the Ruling Planets at Birth,are

the same those at the time of conception.. .(and also...at the death of the human being...) !>                      Punit,TW,Senthil and others could kindly do some further deep and new research in this area...and ensure to use the New K.P. Ayanamsa... and then pass their own judgement based on facts and not on superficial studies or "feelings" or prejudices.. . .>                      Linda Goodman has also shown that the distance between the Sun and Moon in the Mother's chart is also seen in the newborn's Birth Chart...This fact was already known,very well, to our sages of old...! ! >

                     With best wishes,>                       Yogesh Lajmi>                      >                     >                      >

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