Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 CIL theory similar or extention of KP format in whatever sense it is tolddeveloped by Shri K Baskaran from Maduraievery bhava is fixed with the sub lord and the bhavas sub lord star lord if linked to 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 from that house is positve and if it is linked to 2 6 10 houses with help from out side and most important is if a bhava is linked to its 4 8 12 houses through its star and sub that bhava is troubled and shall produce negative resultssuppose 1 sub lord jupiter and if it is in star of mars who is sub lord of 4 or 8 or 12th house lagna suffers during DBA of jupiter meets with accident etchere the karagha bhava and kalapurusha lagna counted mesha as first house and the rasi karaghathva like water sign air sign fixed sign and also moving fixed and dual sign etc etc.should to be taken into accountthe kocharam ie transit of the DBA is also to be taken into accountabove is basic based on the above the CIL theory is developedhere star lord of bhava is dasa and sub lord is bukthi if the if the bukthi is not cooperative with the dasa the bhava produces negative results or results not expected out of it suppose 5th sub lord is connected through its star who indicates 4 or 12 persons suffers through children commision and all karagha through 5th house the character of sign the character of karagha the transit of DBA etc etc if seen in details the results arrived here one bhava is not favourable it is favourable to some other bhava like this it go on................thank youSairaman--- On Fri, 1/1/10, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma wrote:kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhammaRe: CIL Theory Date: Friday, 1 January, 2010, 4:29 PM what is this CIL Theory... anyhow sir, suneel--- On Wed, 30/12/09, kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > wrote: kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > CIL Theory@gro ups.comWednesday, 30 December, 2009, 9:55 AM Hi,is anybody practicing cuspal interlinks theory, i want to know how far is it accurate when compared with kp system.Regards The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 CIL theory KB systems : Based on bhavas and karakas interlinked. 1,2,3,5,9,11 are good bhava for the questioned bhava.6,7 are neutral , 4,8,10,12 are adverse house. suppose for example take 5th cusp-child birth .For 5th cusp bhava sub-lord is connected through star lord and sub lord of 5,6,7,9,1,3 good for 5th bhava . because these bhavas are 1,2,3,5,9,11 for 5th bhava. 4,8,2,12 these bhavas are adverse effect for 5th house. Regards,sara--- On Sat, 2/1/10, sairam nat <sairaman53 wrote:sairam nat <sairaman53Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 Date: Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 7:36 AM CIL theory similar or extention of KP format in whatever sense it is tolddeveloped by Shri K Baskaran from Maduraievery bhava is fixed with the sub lord and the bhavas sub lord star lord if linked to 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 from that house is positve and if it is linked to 2 6 10 houses with help from out side and most important is if a bhava is linked to its 4 8 12 houses through its star and sub that bhava is troubled and shall produce negative resultssuppose 1 sub lord jupiter and if it is in star of mars who is sub lord of 4 or 8 or 12th house lagna suffers during DBA of jupiter meets with accident etchere the karagha bhava and kalapurusha lagna counted mesha as first house and the rasi karaghathva like water sign air sign fixed sign and also moving fixed and dual sign etc etc.should to be taken into accountthe kocharam ie transit of the DBA is also to be taken into accountabove is basic based on the above the CIL theory is developedhere star lord of bhava is dasa and sub lord is bukthi if the if the bukthi is not cooperative with the dasa the bhava produces negative results or results not expected out of it suppose 5th sub lord is connected through its star who indicates 4 or 12 persons suffers through children commision and all karagha through 5th house the character of sign the character of karagha the transit of DBA etc etc if seen in details the results arrived here one bhava is not favourable it is favourable to some other bhava like this it go on.......... ......thank youSairaman--- On Fri, 1/1/10, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > wrote:kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ >Re: CIL Theory@gro ups.comFriday, 1 January, 2010, 4:29 PM what is this CIL Theory... anyhow sir, suneel--- On Wed, 30/12/09, kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > wrote: kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > CIL Theory@gro ups.comWednesday, 30 December, 2009, 9:55 AM Hi,is anybody practicing cuspal interlinks theory, i want to know how far is it accurate when compared with kp system.Regards The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 thank you sir, for the below email... suneel--- On Sat, 2/1/10, sairam nat <sairaman53 wrote: sairam nat <sairaman53Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 Date: Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 7:36 AM CIL theory similar or extention of KP format in whatever sense it is tolddeveloped by Shri K Baskaran from Maduraievery bhava is fixed with the sub lord and the bhavas sub lord star lord if linked to 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 from that house is positve and if it is linked to 2 6 10 houses with help from out side and most important is if a bhava is linked to its 4 8 12 houses through its star and sub that bhava is troubled and shall produce negative resultssuppose 1 sub lord jupiter and if it is in star of mars who is sub lord of 4 or 8 or 12th house lagna suffers during DBA of jupiter meets with accident etchere the karagha bhava and kalapurusha lagna counted mesha as first house and the rasi karaghathva like water sign air sign fixed sign and also moving fixed and dual sign etc etc.should to be taken into accountthe kocharam ie transit of the DBA is also to be taken into accountabove is basic based on the above the CIL theory is developedhere star lord of bhava is dasa and sub lord is bukthi if the if the bukthi is not cooperative with the dasa the bhava produces negative results or results not expected out of it suppose 5th sub lord is connected through its star who indicates 4 or 12 persons suffers through children commision and all karagha through 5th house the character of sign the character of karagha the transit of DBA etc etc if seen in details the results arrived here one bhava is not favourable it is favourable to some other bhava like this it go on.......... ......thank youSairaman--- On Fri, 1/1/10, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > wrote: kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ >Re: CIL Theory@gro ups.comFriday, 1 January, 2010, 4:29 PM what is this CIL Theory... anyhow sir, suneel--- On Wed, 30/12/09, kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > wrote: kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > CIL Theory@gro ups.comWednesday, 30 December, 2009, 9:55 AM Hi,is anybody practicing cuspal interlinks theory, i want to know how far is it accurate when compared with kp system.Regards The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 sairamji Pranam ,Nice and simple explanation,..It will be more helpful if you can give an illustration for the theory. regards Peace and Prosperity to All !!VGR--- On Sat, 2/1/10, sairam nat <sairaman53 wrote:sairam nat <sairaman53Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 Date: Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 7:36 AM CIL theory similar or extention of KP format in whatever sense it is tolddeveloped by Shri K Baskaran from Maduraievery bhava is fixed with the sub lord and the bhavas sub lord star lord if linked to 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 from that house is positve and if it is linked to 2 6 10 houses with help from out side and most important is if a bhava is linked to its 4 8 12 houses through its star and sub that bhava is troubled and shall produce negative resultssuppose 1 sub lord jupiter and if it is in star of mars who is sub lord of 4 or 8 or 12th house lagna suffers during DBA of jupiter meets with accident etchere the karagha bhava and kalapurusha lagna counted mesha as first house and the rasi karaghathva like water sign air sign fixed sign and also moving fixed and dual sign etc etc.should to be taken into accountthe kocharam ie transit of the DBA is also to be taken into accountabove is basic based on the above the CIL theory is developedhere star lord of bhava is dasa and sub lord is bukthi if the if the bukthi is not cooperative with the dasa the bhava produces negative results or results not expected out of it suppose 5th sub lord is connected through its star who indicates 4 or 12 persons suffers through children commision and all karagha through 5th house the character of sign the character of karagha the transit of DBA etc etc if seen in details the results arrived here one bhava is not favourable it is favourable to some other bhava like this it go on.......... ......thank youSairaman--- On Fri, 1/1/10, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > wrote:kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ >Re: CIL Theory@gro ups.comFriday, 1 January, 2010, 4:29 PM what is this CIL Theory... anyhow sir, suneel--- On Wed, 30/12/09, kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > wrote: kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > CIL Theory@gro ups.comWednesday, 30 December, 2009, 9:55 AM Hi,is anybody practicing cuspal interlinks theory, i want to know how far is it accurate when compared with kp system.Regards The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 /message/20899?threaded=1 /message/22178?threaded=1 /message/16846?threaded=1 /message/16627?threaded=1 /message/14853?threaded=1 , sairam nat <sairaman53 wrote: > > CIL theory similar or extention of KP format in whatever sense it is told > developed by Shri K Baskaran from Madurai > > every bhava is fixed with the sub lord and the bhavas sub lord star lord if linked to 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 from that house is positve and if it is linked to 2 6 10 houses with help from out side and > most important is if a bhava is linked to its 4 8 12 houses through its star and sub that bhava is troubled and shall produce negative results > > suppose 1 sub lord jupiter and if it is in star of mars who is sub lord of 4 or 8 or 12th house lagna suffers during DBA of jupiter meets with accident etc > > here the karagha bhava and kalapurusha lagna counted mesha as first house and the rasi karaghathva like water sign air sign fixed sign and also moving fixed and dual sign etc etc.should to be taken into account > > > the kocharam ie transit of the DBA is also to be taken into account > > > above is basic based on the above the CIL theory is developed > > here star lord of bhava is dasa and sub lord is bukthi if the if the bukthi is not cooperative with the dasa the bhava produces negative results or results not expected out of it > suppose 5th sub lord is connected through its star who indicates 4 or 12 persons suffers through children commision and all karagha through 5th house > >  the character of sign the character of karagha the transit of DBA etc etc if seen in details the results arrived > > here one bhava is not favourable it is favourable to some other bhava > > like this it go on................ > > > thank you > > Sairaman > > > > --- On Fri, 1/1/10, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma wrote: > > kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma > Re: CIL Theory > > Friday, 1 January, 2010, 4:29 PM >  > > > what is this CIL Theory... >  > anyhow >  > sir, >  > suneel > > --- On Wed, 30/12/09, kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > wrote: > > > kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > > CIL Theory > @gro ups.com > Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 9:55 AM > > >  > > > > > > Hi, > > is anybody practicing cuspal interlinks theory, i want to know how far is it accurate when compared with kp system. > > Regards The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 One of friend wants to construct and buy a house his 4 10 sub lord jupiter in star of raghu in8th house sub lord of 1st house in sub of mercury 3, 9 house sub lordhere as 4 1o is in star of 1 str no loans he could get as 1 is 8th of 6th ( as he has resigned his job) nest in sub of 3 , 9 he managed to rotate cash friendss and relatives and after enjoying the house for a year he was compelled to sell and come out of it as it is in sub of 3, 9 house another 4th sub lord in star of 5, 8, 11 house in sub of venus 4 8 12 house star lor ( no sub lord of any house ) very easily purchased a house 8 is 5th house of 4th and 11 achievement howwever 8th is tension to ist house lagna and 11th is 8th of 4th house 5th is 12th to 6th house the house no appreciation no rent regularly coming lot of problems with tenents just for nominal rent in a city as suhc every house to be to a house which is 3, 5, 9, 11 from that house and also not 8 and 12th house to lagnathen only that house prosperous in evfery sense my 4th house linked to 2nd house by star and 5th and 3rd in sub i enjoy for 20 years with my mother alsoregards --- On Sat, 2/1/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 wrote:vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 Date: Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 1:17 PM sairamji Pranam ,Nice and simple explanation, ..It will be more helpful if you can give an illustration for the theory. regards Peace and Prosperity to All !!VGR--- On Sat, 2/1/10, sairam nat <sairaman53 > wrote:sairam nat <sairaman53 >Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010@gro ups.comSaturday, 2 January, 2010, 7:36 AM CIL theory similar or extention of KP format in whatever sense it is tolddeveloped by Shri K Baskaran from Maduraievery bhava is fixed with the sub lord and the bhavas sub lord star lord if linked to 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 from that house is positve and if it is linked to 2 6 10 houses with help from out side and most important is if a bhava is linked to its 4 8 12 houses through its star and sub that bhava is troubled and shall produce negative resultssuppose 1 sub lord jupiter and if it is in star of mars who is sub lord of 4 or 8 or 12th house lagna suffers during DBA of jupiter meets with accident etchere the karagha bhava and kalapurusha lagna counted mesha as first house and the rasi karaghathva like water sign air sign fixed sign and also moving fixed and dual sign etc etc.should to be taken into accountthe kocharam ie transit of the DBA is also to be taken into accountabove is basic based on the above the CIL theory is developedhere star lord of bhava is dasa and sub lord is bukthi if the if the bukthi is not cooperative with the dasa the bhava produces negative results or results not expected out of it suppose 5th sub lord is connected through its star who indicates 4 or 12 persons suffers through children commision and all karagha through 5th house the character of sign the character of karagha the transit of DBA etc etc if seen in details the results arrived here one bhava is not favourable it is favourable to some other bhava like this it go on.......... ......thank youSairaman--- On Fri, 1/1/10, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > wrote:kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ >Re: CIL Theory@gro ups.comFriday, 1 January, 2010, 4:29 PM what is this CIL Theory... anyhow sir, suneel--- On Wed, 30/12/09, kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > wrote: kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > CIL Theory@gro ups.comWednesday, 30 December, 2009, 9:55 AM Hi,is anybody practicing cuspal interlinks theory, i want to know how far is it accurate when compared with kp system.Regards The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 ver nice and simple sir thankyousir--- On Sat, 2/1/10, SARA RAJU <saraus2001 wrote:SARA RAJU <saraus2001Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 Date: Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 10:59 AM CIL theory KB systems : Based on bhavas and karakas interlinked. 1,2,3,5,9,11 are good bhava for the questioned bhava.6,7 are neutral , 4,8,10,12 are adverse house. suppose for example take 5th cusp-child birth .For 5th cusp bhava sub-lord is connected through star lord and sub lord of 5,6,7,9,1,3 good for 5th bhava . because these bhavas are 1,2,3,5,9,11 for 5th bhava. 4,8,2,12 these bhavas are adverse effect for 5th house. Regards,sara--- On Sat, 2/1/10, sairam nat <sairaman53 > wrote:sairam nat <sairaman53 >Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010@gro ups.comDate: Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 7:36 AM CIL theory similar or extention of KP format in whatever sense it is tolddeveloped by Shri K Baskaran from Maduraievery bhava is fixed with the sub lord and the bhavas sub lord star lord if linked to 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 from that house is positve and if it is linked to 2 6 10 houses with help from out side and most important is if a bhava is linked to its 4 8 12 houses through its star and sub that bhava is troubled and shall produce negative resultssuppose 1 sub lord jupiter and if it is in star of mars who is sub lord of 4 or 8 or 12th house lagna suffers during DBA of jupiter meets with accident etchere the karagha bhava and kalapurusha lagna counted mesha as first house and the rasi karaghathva like water sign air sign fixed sign and also moving fixed and dual sign etc etc.should to be taken into accountthe kocharam ie transit of the DBA is also to be taken into accountabove is basic based on the above the CIL theory is developedhere star lord of bhava is dasa and sub lord is bukthi if the if the bukthi is not cooperative with the dasa the bhava produces negative results or results not expected out of it suppose 5th sub lord is connected through its star who indicates 4 or 12 persons suffers through children commision and all karagha through 5th house the character of sign the character of karagha the transit of DBA etc etc if seen in details the results arrived here one bhava is not favourable it is favourable to some other bhava like this it go on.......... ......thank youSairaman--- On Fri, 1/1/10, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > wrote:kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ >Re: CIL Theory@gro ups.comFriday, 1 January, 2010, 4:29 PM what is this CIL Theory... anyhow sir, suneel--- On Wed, 30/12/09, kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > wrote: kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > CIL Theory@gro ups.comWednesday, 30 December, 2009, 9:55 AM Hi,is anybody practicing cuspal interlinks theory, i want to know how far is it accurate when compared with kp system.Regards The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Saraji Pranam, But Guruji Sri KSK said that 2 (kutumba) is a favourable for "progeny".and "marriage"(if i am not wrong , 2 is also harmful to 7th house matters because it is 8 to 7)pls clarifyPeace and Prosperity to All !!VGR--- On Sat, 2/1/10, SARA RAJU <saraus2001 wrote:SARA RAJU <saraus2001Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 Date: Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 10:59 AM CIL theory KB systems : Based on bhavas and karakas interlinked. 1,2,3,5,9,11 are good bhava for the questioned bhava.6,7 are neutral , 4,8,10,12 are adverse house. suppose for example take 5th cusp-child birth .For 5th cusp bhava sub-lord is connected through star lord and sub lord of 5,6,7,9,1,3 good for 5th bhava . because these bhavas are 1,2,3,5,9,11 for 5th bhava. 4,8,2,12 these bhavas are adverse effect for 5th house. Regards,sara--- On Sat, 2/1/10, sairam nat <sairaman53 > wrote:sairam nat <sairaman53 >Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010@gro ups.comDate: Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 7:36 AM CIL theory similar or extention of KP format in whatever sense it is tolddeveloped by Shri K Baskaran from Maduraievery bhava is fixed with the sub lord and the bhavas sub lord star lord if linked to 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 from that house is positve and if it is linked to 2 6 10 houses with help from out side and most important is if a bhava is linked to its 4 8 12 houses through its star and sub that bhava is troubled and shall produce negative resultssuppose 1 sub lord jupiter and if it is in star of mars who is sub lord of 4 or 8 or 12th house lagna suffers during DBA of jupiter meets with accident etchere the karagha bhava and kalapurusha lagna counted mesha as first house and the rasi karaghathva like water sign air sign fixed sign and also moving fixed and dual sign etc etc.should to be taken into accountthe kocharam ie transit of the DBA is also to be taken into accountabove is basic based on the above the CIL theory is developedhere star lord of bhava is dasa and sub lord is bukthi if the if the bukthi is not cooperative with the dasa the bhava produces negative results or results not expected out of it suppose 5th sub lord is connected through its star who indicates 4 or 12 persons suffers through children commision and all karagha through 5th house the character of sign the character of karagha the transit of DBA etc etc if seen in details the results arrived here one bhava is not favourable it is favourable to some other bhava like this it go on.......... ......thank youSairaman--- On Fri, 1/1/10, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > wrote:kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ >Re: CIL Theory@gro ups.comFriday, 1 January, 2010, 4:29 PM what is this CIL Theory... anyhow sir, suneel--- On Wed, 30/12/09, kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > wrote: kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > CIL Theory@gro ups.comWednesday, 30 December, 2009, 9:55 AM Hi,is anybody practicing cuspal interlinks theory, i want to know how far is it accurate when compared with kp system.Regards The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Dear VGR ,Pranam. Yes whtever u said is right. For marriage in KB system 5,7,11 are fruitful signifactors. Not consider 2nd house as u said its 8th house for 7th bhava. Any bhava or lagana 8th house is impediments and delay. Logic behind is very simple.There are four things u need to focus before interpreting charts based on KB systems whether birth chart or horary.1) Birth time rectification2) destiny(lagna should allow the event happen in your lifetime or not)3) DBA( dasa bhukti antara should allow)4)Gochara(current planetery postion) suppose for an example marriage;check the lagana whether there is destiny for marriage or notstep 1. 1st cusp sublord -jupiter assume jupiter sub lord of 7.jupiter in the star of mercury and sub of venusstep2.Mercury in bhavas- 5,11(star & sub level) sub is stronger than star .sub venus in bhavas - 3,9.here star lord mercury qualified by3 & 9 because it is 11 & 5 for 5th and 5 & 11 for 11th.so mercury qualified 5 & 11.over all lagana is supporting for 5,7,11. so marriage is promised.then check the same way DBA . If DBA permit then comes to gochara. suppose jupiter dasa and venus bhukti so it is signify marriage but if suppose in gochara venus is in star or sub of 6th bhava lord then the event will not fructify. then the event will not happen because venus in 6th sub negate the marriage.So u can chek the next bhkti and also antara. Just i am sharing my views in KB system. Reg.,sara--- On Mon, 4/1/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 wrote:vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 Date: Monday, 4 January, 2010, 10:58 AM Saraji Pranam, But Guruji Sri KSK said that 2 (kutumba) is a favourable for "progeny".and "marriage"(if i am not wrong , 2 is also harmful to 7th house matters because it is 8 to 7)pls clarifyPeace and Prosperity to All !!VGR--- On Sat, 2/1/10, SARA RAJU <saraus2001 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:SARA RAJU <saraus2001 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010@gro ups.comSaturday, 2 January, 2010, 10:59 AM CIL theory KB systems : Based on bhavas and karakas interlinked. 1,2,3,5,9,11 are good bhava for the questioned bhava.6,7 are neutral , 4,8,10,12 are adverse house. suppose for example take 5th cusp-child birth .For 5th cusp bhava sub-lord is connected through star lord and sub lord of 5,6,7,9,1,3 good for 5th bhava . because these bhavas are 1,2,3,5,9,11 for 5th bhava. 4,8,2,12 these bhavas are adverse effect for 5th house. Regards,sara--- On Sat, 2/1/10, sairam nat <sairaman53 > wrote:sairam nat <sairaman53 >Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010@gro ups.comDate: Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 7:36 AM CIL theory similar or extention of KP format in whatever sense it is tolddeveloped by Shri K Baskaran from Maduraievery bhava is fixed with the sub lord and the bhavas sub lord star lord if linked to 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 from that house is positve and if it is linked to 2 6 10 houses with help from out side and most important is if a bhava is linked to its 4 8 12 houses through its star and sub that bhava is troubled and shall produce negative resultssuppose 1 sub lord jupiter and if it is in star of mars who is sub lord of 4 or 8 or 12th house lagna suffers during DBA of jupiter meets with accident etchere the karagha bhava and kalapurusha lagna counted mesha as first house and the rasi karaghathva like water sign air sign fixed sign and also moving fixed and dual sign etc etc.should to be taken into accountthe kocharam ie transit of the DBA is also to be taken into accountabove is basic based on the above the CIL theory is developedhere star lord of bhava is dasa and sub lord is bukthi if the if the bukthi is not cooperative with the dasa the bhava produces negative results or results not expected out of it suppose 5th sub lord is connected through its star who indicates 4 or 12 persons suffers through children commision and all karagha through 5th house the character of sign the character of karagha the transit of DBA etc etc if seen in details the results arrived here one bhava is not favourable it is favourable to some other bhava like this it go on.......... ......thank youSairaman--- On Fri, 1/1/10, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > wrote:kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ >Re: CIL Theory@gro ups.comFriday, 1 January, 2010, 4:29 PM what is this CIL Theory... anyhow sir, suneel--- On Wed, 30/12/09, kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > wrote: kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > CIL Theory@gro ups.comWednesday, 30 December, 2009, 9:55 AM Hi,is anybody practicing cuspal interlinks theory, i want to know how far is it accurate when compared with kp system.Regards The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Saraji Pranam,thanks alot for your immediate response and nice explanation of the rules.my understanding from your mail is as follows :1') in KB we have to judge Asc sub lord only for any matter , there will be no focal bhava like in KP i.e. for marriage -7, profession-10 etc. All the required bhavas should get the sanction from asc cusp sublord only.2) In Kp a Planet is said to unfruitful for a bhave only when if is posited in the sub who signifies the 12 house from that bhava, i.e. ig a planet in the star of an occupant of 5th will not promote 5th house matters if it is in the sub of 4th house significator. But in KB we have to see whether that planet is in the sub of significator for 4,6,8,10,12 houses from the house shown by its star lord.3) house groupings under KB will differ from KP, ie. for marriage in KP 2,7,11 houses , in KB 5,7,11, for foriegn KP 3,9,12 but in KB ---? (pls let me know which houses are to be considered)4) transit scheme is similar to KP. can you pls tell me if a person having job, marriage, foriegn trips, higher education will have lagna sublord signyfying all the twelve houses ! (i am not critisising pls dont take otherwise)pls correct me if i am wrong anywhere. thanks for your time ......Peace and Prosperity to All !!VGR--- On Mon, 4/1/10, SARA RAJU <saraus2001 wrote:SARA RAJU <saraus2001Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 Date: Monday, 4 January, 2010, 1:33 PM Dear VGR ,Pranam. Yes whtever u said is right. For marriage in KB system 5,7,11 are fruitful signifactors. Not consider 2nd house as u said its 8th house for 7th bhava. Any bhava or lagana 8th house is impediments and delay. Logic behind is very simple.There are four things u need to focus before interpreting charts based on KB systems whether birth chart or horary.1) Birth time rectification2) destiny(lagna should allow the event happen in your lifetime or not)3) DBA( dasa bhukti antara should allow)4)Gochara(current planetery postion) suppose for an example marriage;check the lagana whether there is destiny for marriage or notstep 1. 1st cusp sublord -jupiter assume jupiter sub lord of 7.jupiter in the star of mercury and sub of venusstep2.Mercury in bhavas- 5,11(star & sub level) sub is stronger than star .sub venus in bhavas - 3,9.here star lord mercury qualified by3 & 9 because it is 11 & 5 for 5th and 5 & 11 for 11th.so mercury qualified 5 & 11.over all lagana is supporting for 5,7,11. so marriage is promised.then check the same way DBA . If DBA permit then comes to gochara. suppose jupiter dasa and venus bhukti so it is signify marriage but if suppose in gochara venus is in star or sub of 6th bhava lord then the event will not fructify. then the event will not happen because venus in 6th sub negate the marriage.So u can chek the next bhkti and also antara. Just i am sharing my views in KB system. Reg.,sara--- On Mon, 4/1/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010@gro ups.comMonday, 4 January, 2010, 10:58 AM Saraji Pranam, But Guruji Sri KSK said that 2 (kutumba) is a favourable for "progeny".and "marriage"(if i am not wrong , 2 is also harmful to 7th house matters because it is 8 to 7)pls clarifyPeace and Prosperity to All !!VGR--- On Sat, 2/1/10, SARA RAJU <saraus2001 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:SARA RAJU <saraus2001 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010@gro ups.comSaturday, 2 January, 2010, 10:59 AM CIL theory KB systems : Based on bhavas and karakas interlinked. 1,2,3,5,9,11 are good bhava for the questioned bhava.6,7 are neutral , 4,8,10,12 are adverse house. suppose for example take 5th cusp-child birth .For 5th cusp bhava sub-lord is connected through star lord and sub lord of 5,6,7,9,1,3 good for 5th bhava . because these bhavas are 1,2,3,5,9,11 for 5th bhava. 4,8,2,12 these bhavas are adverse effect for 5th house. Regards,sara--- On Sat, 2/1/10, sairam nat <sairaman53 > wrote:sairam nat <sairaman53 >Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010@gro ups.comDate: Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 7:36 AM CIL theory similar or extention of KP format in whatever sense it is tolddeveloped by Shri K Baskaran from Maduraievery bhava is fixed with the sub lord and the bhavas sub lord star lord if linked to 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 from that house is positve and if it is linked to 2 6 10 houses with help from out side and most important is if a bhava is linked to its 4 8 12 houses through its star and sub that bhava is troubled and shall produce negative resultssuppose 1 sub lord jupiter and if it is in star of mars who is sub lord of 4 or 8 or 12th house lagna suffers during DBA of jupiter meets with accident etchere the karagha bhava and kalapurusha lagna counted mesha as first house and the rasi karaghathva like water sign air sign fixed sign and also moving fixed and dual sign etc etc.should to be taken into accountthe kocharam ie transit of the DBA is also to be taken into accountabove is basic based on the above the CIL theory is developedhere star lord of bhava is dasa and sub lord is bukthi if the if the bukthi is not cooperative with the dasa the bhava produces negative results or results not expected out of it suppose 5th sub lord is connected through its star who indicates 4 or 12 persons suffers through children commision and all karagha through 5th house the character of sign the character of karagha the transit of DBA etc etc if seen in details the results arrived here one bhava is not favourable it is favourable to some other bhava like this it go on.......... ......thank youSairaman--- On Fri, 1/1/10, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > wrote:kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ >Re: CIL Theory@gro ups.comFriday, 1 January, 2010, 4:29 PM what is this CIL Theory... anyhow sir, suneel--- On Wed, 30/12/09, kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > wrote: kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > CIL Theory@gro ups.comWednesday, 30 December, 2009, 9:55 AM Hi,is anybody practicing cuspal interlinks theory, i want to know how far is it accurate when compared with kp system.Regards The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Dear SARA RAJU, 1. Could you kindly give the specific reference (book name and page number or month/year of the KP-Ezine where KB articles by A. Devaraj were published) of simple logic for 2nd house, 8th house for 7th bhava denotes 'impediments and delay'? Because what the learned rationale is 'danger and death' to the partner. 2. In the K. Baskaran's 'Applications of Cuspal Interlinks' Part 1 page 18, For predicting the event, we need to study the following: 1) Whether the event is promised or not? 2) Whether the DBAS of the relevent cusps are in operation? 3) Whether the transit of lords of the DBAS & the luminiarries favor the evnt? 3. Anyway what the KB says regarding > 1) Birth time rectification? 4. If you want to show with an example, it would be clear with the birth details of a chart other than just talking in general. Thanks and regards, TW , SARA RAJU <saraus2001 wrote: > > > Dear VGR , > > Pranam. Yes whtever u said is right. For marriage in KB system 5,7,11 are fruitful signifactors. Not consider 2nd house as u said its 8th house for 7th bhava. Any bhava or lagana 8th house is impediments and delay. Logic behind is very simple. > > There are four things u need to focus before interpreting charts based on KB systems whether birth chart or horary. > > 1) Birth time rectification > 2) destiny(lagna should allow the event happen in your lifetime or not) > 3) DBA( dasa bhukti antara should allow) > 4)Gochara(current planetery postion) > > suppose for an example marriage; > > check the lagana whether there is destiny for marriage or not > > step 1. 1st cusp sublord -jupiter assume jupiter sub lord of 7. > jupiter in the star of mercury and sub of venus > > step2. > > Mercury in bhavas- 5,11(star & sub level) sub is stronger than star . > sub venus in bhavas - 3,9. > > here star lord mercury qualified by3 & 9 because it is 11 & 5 for 5th and 5 & 11 for 11th. > > so mercury qualified 5 & 11. > > over all lagana is supporting for 5,7,11. so marriage is promised. > > then check the same way DBA . If DBA permit then comes to gochara. > > suppose jupiter dasa and venus bhukti so it is signify marriage but if suppose in gochara venus is in star or sub of 6th bhava lord then the event will not fructify. then the event will not happen because venus in 6th sub negate the marriage. > So u can chek the next bhkti and also antara. > > > Just i am sharing my views in KB system. > > Reg., > sara > > --- On Mon, 4/1/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 wrote: > > vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > Monday, 4 January, 2010, 10:58 AM >  > > > Saraji Pranam, > > But Guruji Sri KSK said that 2 (kutumba) is a favourable for " progeny " .and " marriage " (if i am not wrong , 2 is also harmful to 7th house matters because it is 8 to 7) > > pls clarify > > Peace and Prosperity to All !! > > VGR > > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, SARA RAJU <saraus2001 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > SARA RAJU <saraus2001 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > @gro ups.com > Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 10:59 AM >  > > CIL theory KB systems : > > Based on bhavas and karakas interlinked. > > 1,2,3,5,9,11 are good bhava for the questioned bhava.6,7 are neutral , 4,8,10,12 are adverse house. > > suppose for example take 5th cusp-child birth .For 5th cusp bhava sub-lord is connected through star lord and sub lord of 5,6,7,9,1,3 good for 5th bhava . because these bhavas are 1,2,3,5,9,11 for 5th bhava. > > 4,8,2,12 these bhavas are adverse effect for 5th house. > > Regards, > sara > > > > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, sairam nat <sairaman53 > wrote: > > sairam nat <sairaman53 > > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > @gro ups.com > Date: > Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 7:36 AM >  CIL theory similar or extention of KP format in whatever sense it is told > developed by Shri K Baskaran from Madurai > > every bhava is fixed with the sub lord and the bhavas sub lord star lord if linked to 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 from that house is positve and if it is linked to 2 6 10 houses with help from out side and > most important is if a bhava is linked to its 4 8 12 houses through its star and sub that bhava is troubled and shall produce negative results > > suppose 1 sub lord jupiter and if it is in star of mars who is sub lord of 4 or 8 or 12th house lagna suffers during DBA of jupiter meets with accident etc > > here the karagha bhava and > kalapurusha lagna counted mesha as first house and the rasi karaghathva like water sign air sign fixed sign and also moving fixed and dual sign etc etc.should to be taken into account > > > the > kocharam ie transit of the DBA is also to be taken into account > > > above is basic based on the above the CIL theory is developed > > here star lord of bhava is dasa and sub lord is bukthi if the if the bukthi is not cooperative with the dasa the bhava produces negative results or results not expected out of it > suppose 5th sub lord is connected through its star who indicates 4 or 12 persons suffers through children commision and all karagha through 5th house > >  the character of sign the character of karagha the transit of DBA etc etc if seen in details the results arrived > > here one bhava is not favourable it is favourable to some other bhava > > like this it go on.......... ...... > > > thank you > > Sairaman > > > > --- On Fri, 1/1/10, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > wrote: > > kondapaneni > suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > > Re: CIL Theory > @gro ups.com > Friday, 1 January, 2010, 4:29 PM >  what is this CIL Theory... >  > anyhow >  > sir, >  > suneel > > --- On Wed, 30/12/09, kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > wrote: > > > kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > > CIL Theory > @gro ups.com > Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 9:55 AM > > >  > > > > > > Hi, > > is anybody practicing cuspal interlinks theory, i want to know how far is it accurate when compared with kp system. > > Regards The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Dear SARA RAJU, Could you kindly explain what would be the " opportunity to get the child " by the KB analysis for the following KB chart? Thanks and regards, TW " Male " , 28 Jul 1968, 05:16 AM IST, 08N43, 77E44, Ayanamsa 23:24:25, Asc Sg 22:03:50 (Stl Ve- Sbl Sa); Sa is Sub Lord of 1,4,7,10; in star of Ke which is Sub Lord of 3,9; and in sub of Ve which which is Sub Lord of 11. 5th (Ar 28:29:04) bhava Sub Lord is Ma which is Sub Lord of 5; in star of Ju which is Sub Lord of 3,7,11; in own sub of Mar which is Sub Lord of 5. 11th (Li 28:29:04) bhava Sub Lord is Ve which is Sub Lord of 11; in star of Me which is Sub Lord of 4,8,12; and in sub of Mo which is Sub Lord of 8. Ju (Le 14:01:25) is Sub Lord of 3,7,11; in star and sub of Ve which is Sub Lord of 11. , SARA RAJU <saraus2001 wrote: > > > Dear VGR , > > Pranam. Yes whtever u said is right. For marriage in KB system 5,7,11 are fruitful signifactors. Not consider 2nd house as u said its 8th house for 7th bhava. Any bhava or lagana 8th house is impediments and delay. Logic behind is very simple. > > There are four things u need to focus before interpreting charts based on KB systems whether birth chart or horary. > > 1) Birth time rectification > 2) destiny(lagna should allow the event happen in your lifetime or not) > 3) DBA( dasa bhukti antara should allow) > 4)Gochara(current planetery postion) > > suppose for an example marriage; > > check the lagana whether there is destiny for marriage or not > > step 1. 1st cusp sublord -jupiter assume jupiter sub lord of 7. > jupiter in the star of mercury and sub of venus > > step2. > > Mercury in bhavas- 5,11(star & sub level) sub is stronger than star . > sub venus in bhavas - 3,9. > > here star lord mercury qualified by3 & 9 because it is 11 & 5 for 5th and 5 & 11 for 11th. > > so mercury qualified 5 & 11. > > over all lagana is supporting for 5,7,11. so marriage is promised. > > then check the same way DBA . If DBA permit then comes to gochara. > > suppose jupiter dasa and venus bhukti so it is signify marriage but if suppose in gochara venus is in star or sub of 6th bhava lord then the event will not fructify. then the event will not happen because venus in 6th sub negate the marriage. > So u can chek the next bhkti and also antara. > > > Just i am sharing my views in KB system. > > Reg., > sara > > --- On Mon, 4/1/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 wrote: > > vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > Monday, 4 January, 2010, 10:58 AM >  > > > Saraji Pranam, > > But Guruji Sri KSK said that 2 (kutumba) is a favourable for " progeny " .and " marriage " (if i am not wrong , 2 is also harmful to 7th house matters because it is 8 to 7) > > pls clarify > > Peace and Prosperity to All !! > > VGR > > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, SARA RAJU <saraus2001 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > SARA RAJU <saraus2001 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > @gro ups.com > Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 10:59 AM >  > > CIL theory KB systems : > > Based on bhavas and karakas interlinked. > > 1,2,3,5,9,11 are good bhava for the questioned bhava.6,7 are neutral , 4,8,10,12 are adverse house. > > suppose for example take 5th cusp-child birth .For 5th cusp bhava sub-lord is connected through star lord and sub lord of 5,6,7,9,1,3 good for 5th bhava . because these bhavas are 1,2,3,5,9,11 for 5th bhava. > > 4,8,2,12 these bhavas are adverse effect for 5th house. > > Regards, > sara > > > > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, sairam nat <sairaman53 > wrote: > > sairam nat <sairaman53 > > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > @gro ups.com > Date: > Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 7:36 AM >  CIL theory similar or extention of KP format in whatever sense it is told > developed by Shri K Baskaran from Madurai > > every bhava is fixed with the sub lord and the bhavas sub lord star lord if linked to 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 from that house is positve and if it is linked to 2 6 10 houses with help from out side and > most important is if a bhava is linked to its 4 8 12 houses through its star and sub that bhava is troubled and shall produce negative results > > suppose 1 sub lord jupiter and if it is in star of mars who is sub lord of 4 or 8 or 12th house lagna suffers during DBA of jupiter meets with accident etc > > here the karagha bhava and > kalapurusha lagna counted mesha as first house and the rasi karaghathva like water sign air sign fixed sign and also moving fixed and dual sign etc etc.should to be taken into account > > > the > kocharam ie transit of the DBA is also to be taken into account > > > above is basic based on the above the CIL theory is developed > > here star lord of bhava is dasa and sub lord is bukthi if the if the bukthi is not cooperative with the dasa the bhava produces negative results or results not expected out of it > suppose 5th sub lord is connected through its star who indicates 4 or 12 persons suffers through children commision and all karagha through 5th house > >  the character of sign the character of karagha the transit of DBA etc etc if seen in details the results arrived > > here one bhava is not favourable it is favourable to some other bhava > > like this it go on.......... ...... > > > thank you > > Sairaman > > > > --- On Fri, 1/1/10, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > wrote: > > kondapaneni > suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > > Re: CIL Theory > @gro ups.com > Friday, 1 January, 2010, 4:29 PM >  what is this CIL Theory... >  > anyhow >  > sir, >  > suneel > > --- On Wed, 30/12/09, kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > wrote: > > > kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > > CIL Theory > @gro ups.com > Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 9:55 AM > > >  > > > > > > Hi, > > is anybody practicing cuspal interlinks theory, i want to know how far is it accurate when compared with kp system. > > Regards The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Dear Sara ji, What would be then the significtors for (a)Love marriage and for (b)Arranged marriage ? regards, Bhaskar. , SARA RAJU <saraus2001 wrote: > > > Dear VGR , > > Pranam. Yes whtever u said is right. For marriage in KB system 5,7,11 are fruitful signifactors. Not consider 2nd house as u said its 8th house for 7th bhava. Any bhava or lagana 8th house is impediments and delay. Logic behind is very simple. > > There are four things u need to focus before interpreting charts based on KB systems whether birth chart or horary. > > 1) Birth time rectification > 2) destiny(lagna should allow the event happen in your lifetime or not) > 3) DBA( dasa bhukti antara should allow) > 4)Gochara(current planetery postion) > > suppose for an example marriage; > > check the lagana whether there is destiny for marriage or not > > step 1. 1st cusp sublord -jupiter assume jupiter sub lord of 7. > jupiter in the star of mercury and sub of venus > > step2. > > Mercury in bhavas- 5,11(star & sub level) sub is stronger than star . > sub venus in bhavas - 3,9. > > here star lord mercury qualified by3 & 9 because it is 11 & 5 for 5th and 5 & 11 for 11th. > > so mercury qualified 5 & 11. > > over all lagana is supporting for 5,7,11. so marriage is promised. > > then check the same way DBA . If DBA permit then comes to gochara. > > suppose jupiter dasa and venus bhukti so it is signify marriage but if suppose in gochara venus is in star or sub of 6th bhava lord then the event will not fructify. then the event will not happen because venus in 6th sub negate the marriage. > So u can chek the next bhkti and also antara. > > > Just i am sharing my views in KB system. > > Reg., > sara > > --- On Mon, 4/1/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 wrote: > > vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > Monday, 4 January, 2010, 10:58 AM >  > > > Saraji Pranam, > > But Guruji Sri KSK said that 2 (kutumba) is a favourable for " progeny " .and " marriage " (if i am not wrong , 2 is also harmful to 7th house matters because it is 8 to 7) > > pls clarify > > Peace and Prosperity to All !! > > VGR > > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, SARA RAJU <saraus2001 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > SARA RAJU <saraus2001 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > @gro ups.com > Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 10:59 AM >  > > CIL theory KB systems : > > Based on bhavas and karakas interlinked. > > 1,2,3,5,9,11 are good bhava for the questioned bhava.6,7 are neutral , 4,8,10,12 are adverse house. > > suppose for example take 5th cusp-child birth .For 5th cusp bhava sub-lord is connected through star lord and sub lord of 5,6,7,9,1,3 good for 5th bhava . because these bhavas are 1,2,3,5,9,11 for 5th bhava. > > 4,8,2,12 these bhavas are adverse effect for 5th house. > > Regards, > sara > > > > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, sairam nat <sairaman53 > wrote: > > sairam nat <sairaman53 > > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > @gro ups.com > Date: > Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 7:36 AM >  CIL theory similar or extention of KP format in whatever sense it is told > developed by Shri K Baskaran from Madurai > > every bhava is fixed with the sub lord and the bhavas sub lord star lord if linked to 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 from that house is positve and if it is linked to 2 6 10 houses with help from out side and > most important is if a bhava is linked to its 4 8 12 houses through its star and sub that bhava is troubled and shall produce negative results > > suppose 1 sub lord jupiter and if it is in star of mars who is sub lord of 4 or 8 or 12th house lagna suffers during DBA of jupiter meets with accident etc > > here the karagha bhava and > kalapurusha lagna counted mesha as first house and the rasi karaghathva like water sign air sign fixed sign and also moving fixed and dual sign etc etc.should to be taken into account > > > the > kocharam ie transit of the DBA is also to be taken into account > > > above is basic based on the above the CIL theory is developed > > here star lord of bhava is dasa and sub lord is bukthi if the if the bukthi is not cooperative with the dasa the bhava produces negative results or results not expected out of it > suppose 5th sub lord is connected through its star who indicates 4 or 12 persons suffers through children commision and all karagha through 5th house > >  the character of sign the character of karagha the transit of DBA etc etc if seen in details the results arrived > > here one bhava is not favourable it is favourable to some other bhava > > like this it go on.......... ...... > > > thank you > > Sairaman > > > > --- On Fri, 1/1/10, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > wrote: > > kondapaneni > suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > > Re: CIL Theory > @gro ups.com > Friday, 1 January, 2010, 4:29 PM >  what is this CIL Theory... >  > anyhow >  > sir, >  > suneel > > --- On Wed, 30/12/09, kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > wrote: > > > kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > > CIL Theory > @gro ups.com > Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 9:55 AM > > >  > > > > > > Hi, > > is anybody practicing cuspal interlinks theory, i want to know how far is it accurate when compared with kp system. > > Regards The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Dear Pavan When we apply kp astrological rule, unless and until the point regarding health as well as longivity is there, marak and badhak sthana adhipati is not to be considered evil. Or otherwise for certain lagnas, 11th house is consideed evil. If we take this then when any planet signifies 11th house we have to take it in negative manner. But this is not the case. and for marriage 8th house is considered for Sex purpose. It is not evil. and if you remember for second marriage we consider 2nd cusp, if 2nd cusp is detrimental for marriage then how we take this for confirmation whether jataka is supposed to marry or not and how would be his/her family environment? With blessings Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, Kolhapur Cell No. +91 9673746303/+91 9422582853 email : guide_vijayanand On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:57:16 +0530 wrote > Dear VGR ,Pranam. Yes whtever u said is right. For marriage in KB system 5,7,11 are fruitful signifactors. Not consider 2nd house as u said its 8th house for 7th bhava. Any bhava or lagana 8th house is impediments and delay. Logic behind is very simple.There are four things u need to focus before interpreting charts based on KB systems whether birth chart or horary.1) Birth time rectification2) destiny(lagna should allow the event happen in your lifetime or not)3) DBA( dasa bhukti antara should allow)4)Gochara(current planetery postion) suppose for an example marriage;check the lagana whether there is destiny for marriage or notstep 1. 1st cusp sublord -jupiter assume jupiter sub lord of 7.jupiter in the star of mercury and sub of venusstep2.Mercury in bhavas- 5,11(star sub level) sub is stronger than star .sub venus in bhavas - 3,9.here star lord mercury qualified by3 9 because it is 11 5 for 5th and 511 for 11th.so mercury qualified 5 11.over all lagana is supporting for 5,7,11. so marriage is promised.then check the same way DBA . If DBA permit then comes to gochara. suppose jupiter dasa and venus bhukti so it is signify marriage but if suppose in gochara venus is in star or sub of 6th bhava lord then the event will not fructify. then the event will not happen because venus in 6th sub negate the marriage.So u can chek the next bhkti and also antara. Just i am sharing my views in KB system. Reg.,sara--- On Mon, 4/1/10, vgr pavan wrote:vgr pavan Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010: Monday, 4 January, 2010, 10:58 AM Saraji Pranam, But Guruji Sri KSK said that 2 (kutumba) is a favourable for "progeny".and "marriage"(if i am not wrong , 2 is also harmful to 7th house matters because it is 8 to 7)pls clarifyPeace and Prosperity to All !!VGR--- On Sat, 2/1/10, SARA RAJU wrote:SARA RAJU Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010@gro ups.comSaturday, 2 January, 2010, 10:59 AM CIL theory KB systems : Based on bhavas and karakas interlinked. 1,2,3,5,9,11 are good bhava for the questioned bhava.6,7 are neutral , 4,8,10,12 are adverse house. suppose for example take 5th cusp-child birth .For 5th cusp bhava sub-lord is connected through star lord and sub lord of 5,6,7,9,1,3 good for 5th bhava . because these bhavas are 1,2,3,5,9,11 for 5th bhava. 4,8,2,12 these bhavas are adverse effect for 5th house. Regards,sara--- On Sat, 2/1/10, sairam nat wrote:sairam nat Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010@gro ups.comDate: Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 7:36 AM CIL theory similar or extention of KP format in whatever sense it is tolddeveloped by Shri K Baskaran from Maduraievery bhava is fixed with the sub lord and the bhavas sub lord star lord if linked to 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 from that house is positve and if it is linked to 2 6 10 houses with help from out side and most important is if a bhava is linked to its 4 8 12 houses through its star and sub that bhava is troubled and shall produce negative resultssuppose 1 sub lord jupiter and if it is in star of mars who is sub lord of 4 or 8 or 12th house lagna suffers during DBA of jupiter meets with accident etchere the karagha bhava and kalapurusha lagna counted mesha as first house and the rasi karaghathva like water sign air sign fixed sign and also moving fixed and dual sign etc etc.should to be taken into accountthe kocharam ie transit of the DBA is also to be taken into accountabove is basic based on the above the CIL theory is developedhere star lord of bhava is dasa and sub lord is bukthi if the if the bukthi is not cooperative with the dasa the bhava produces negative results or results not expected out of it suppose 5th sub lord is connected through its star who indicates 4 or 12 persons suffers through children commision and all karagha through 5th house the character of sign the character of karagha the transit of DBA etc etc if seen in details the results arrived here one bhava is not favourable it is favourable to some other bhava like this it go on.......... ......thank youSairaman--- On Fri, 1/1/10, kondapaneni suneel wrote:kondapaneni suneel Re: CIL Theory@gro ups.comFriday, 1 January, 2010, 4:29 PM what is this CIL Theory... anyhow sir, suneel--- On Wed, 30/12/09, kumar gautam wrote: kumar gautam CIL Theory@gro ups.comWednesday, 30 December, 2009, 9:55 AM Hi,is anybody practicing cuspal interlinks theory, i want to know how far is it accurate when compared with kp system.Regards The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 5th= love marriage 6th= arranged marriage , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Sara ji, > > What would be then the significtors for (a)Love marriage and for (b)Arranged marriage ? > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > , SARA RAJU <saraus2001@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear VGR , > > > > Pranam. Yes whtever u said is right. For marriage in KB system 5,7,11 are fruitful signifactors. Not consider 2nd house as u said its 8th house for 7th bhava. Any bhava or lagana 8th house is impediments and delay. Logic behind is very simple. > > > > There are four things u need to focus before interpreting charts based on KB systems whether birth chart or horary. > > > > 1) Birth time rectification > > 2) destiny(lagna should allow the event happen in your lifetime or not) > > 3) DBA( dasa bhukti antara should allow) > > 4)Gochara(current planetery postion) > > > > suppose for an example marriage; > > > > check the lagana whether there is destiny for marriage or not > > > > step 1. 1st cusp sublord -jupiter assume jupiter sub lord of 7. > > jupiter in the star of mercury and sub of venus > > > > step2. > > > > Mercury in bhavas- 5,11(star & sub level) sub is stronger than star . > > sub venus in bhavas - 3,9. > > > > here star lord mercury qualified by3 & 9 because it is 11 & 5 for 5th and 5 & 11 for 11th. > > > > so mercury qualified 5 & 11. > > > > over all lagana is supporting for 5,7,11. so marriage is promised. > > > > then check the same way DBA . If DBA permit then comes to gochara. > > > > suppose jupiter dasa and venus bhukti so it is signify marriage but if suppose in gochara venus is in star or sub of 6th bhava lord then the event will not fructify. then the event will not happen because venus in 6th sub negate the marriage. > > So u can chek the next bhkti and also antara. > > > > > > Just i am sharing my views in KB system. > > > > Reg., > > sara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 4/1/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@> wrote: > > > > vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@> > > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > > > Monday, 4 January, 2010, 10:58 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saraji Pranam, > > > > But Guruji Sri KSK said that 2 (kutumba) is a favourable for " progeny " .and " marriage " (if i am not wrong , 2 is also harmful to 7th house matters because it is 8 to 7) > > > > pls clarify > > > > Peace and Prosperity to All !! > > > > VGR > > > > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, SARA RAJU <saraus2001 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > SARA RAJU <saraus2001 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > @gro ups.com > > Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 10:59 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CIL theory KB systems : > > > > Based on bhavas and karakas interlinked. > > > > 1,2,3,5,9,11 are good bhava for the questioned bhava.6,7 are neutral , 4,8,10,12 are adverse house. > > > > suppose for example take 5th cusp-child birth .For 5th cusp bhava sub-lord is connected through star lord and sub lord of 5,6,7,9,1,3 good for 5th bhava . because these bhavas are 1,2,3,5,9,11 for 5th bhava. > > > > 4,8,2,12 these bhavas are adverse effect for 5th house. > > > > Regards, > > sara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, sairam nat <sairaman53 > wrote: > > > > sairam nat <sairaman53 > > > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > @gro ups.com > > Date: > > Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 7:36 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CIL theory similar or extention of KP format in whatever sense it is told > > developed by Shri K Baskaran from Madurai > > > > every bhava is fixed with the sub lord and the bhavas sub lord star lord if linked to 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 from that house is positve and if it is linked to 2 6 10 houses with help from out side and > > most important is if a bhava is linked to its 4 8 12 houses through its star and sub that bhava is troubled and shall produce negative results > > > > suppose 1 sub lord jupiter and if it is in star of mars who is sub lord of 4 or 8 or 12th house lagna suffers during DBA of jupiter meets with accident etc > > > > here the karagha bhava and > > kalapurusha lagna counted mesha as first house and the rasi karaghathva like water sign air sign fixed sign and also moving fixed and dual sign etc etc.should to be taken into account > > > > > > the > > kocharam ie transit of the DBA is also to be taken into account > > > > > > above is basic based on the above the CIL theory is developed > > > > here star lord of bhava is dasa and sub lord is bukthi if the if the bukthi is not cooperative with the dasa the bhava produces negative results or results not expected out of it > > suppose 5th sub lord is connected through its star who indicates 4 or 12 persons suffers through children commision and all karagha through 5th house > > > >  the character of sign the character of karagha the transit of DBA etc etc if seen in details the results arrived > > > > here one bhava is not favourable it is favourable to some other bhava > > > > like this it go on.......... ...... > > > > > > thank you > > > > Sairaman > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 1/1/10, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > wrote: > > > > kondapaneni > > suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > > > Re: CIL Theory > > @gro ups.com > > Friday, 1 January, 2010, 4:29 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what is this CIL Theory... > >  > > anyhow > >  > > sir, > >  > > suneel > > > > --- On Wed, 30/12/09, kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > wrote: > > > > > > kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > > > CIL Theory > > @gro ups.com > > Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 9:55 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > is anybody practicing cuspal interlinks theory, i want to know how far is it accurate when compared with kp system. > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 After verifying the chart I found Moon Dasa favourable to have children was from 1996 onwards. The Fifth cuspal sublord is Moon cojoined with Jupiter making it favourable. Good Luck... Naresh Valecha--- On Tue, 5/1/10, TW <tw853 wrote: TW <tw853 Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 Date: Tuesday, 5 January, 2010, 12:54 AM Dear SARA RAJU,Could you kindly explain what would be the "opportunity to get the child" by the KB analysis for the following KB chart?Thanks and regards,TW"Male", 28 Jul 1968, 05:16 AM IST, 08N43, 77E44, Ayanamsa 23:24:25, Asc Sg 22:03:50 (Stl Ve- Sbl Sa); Sa is Sub Lord of 1,4,7,10; in star of Ke which is Sub Lord of 3,9; and in sub of Ve which which is Sub Lord of 11.5th (Ar 28:29:04) bhava Sub Lord is Ma which is Sub Lord of 5; in star of Ju which is Sub Lord of 3,7,11; in own sub of Mar which is Sub Lord of 5.11th (Li 28:29:04) bhava Sub Lord is Ve which is Sub Lord of 11; in star of Me which is Sub Lord of 4,8,12; and in sub of Mo which is Sub Lord of 8.Ju (Le 14:01:25) is Sub Lord of 3,7,11; in star and sub of Ve which is Sub Lord of 11.@gro ups.com, SARA RAJU <saraus2001@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear VGR ,> > Pranam. Yes whtever u said is right. For marriage in KB system 5,7,11 are fruitful signifactors. Not consider 2nd house as u said its 8th house for 7th bhava. Any bhava or lagana 8th house is impediments and delay. Logic behind is very simple.> > There are four things u need to focus before interpreting charts based on KB systems whether birth chart or horary.> > 1) Birth time rectification> 2) destiny(lagna should allow the event happen in your lifetime or not)> 3) DBA( dasa bhukti antara should allow)> 4)Gochara(current planetery postion) > > suppose for an example marriage;> > check the lagana whether there is destiny for marriage or not> > step 1. 1st cusp sublord -jupiter assume jupiter sub lord of 7.> jupiter in the star of mercury and sub of venus> > step2.> > Mercury in bhavas- 5,11(star & sub level) sub is stronger than star .> sub venus in bhavas - 3,9.> > here star lord mercury qualified by3 & 9 because it is 11 & 5 for 5th and 5 & 11 for 11th.> > so mercury qualified 5 & 11.> > over all lagana is supporting for 5,7,11. so marriage is promised.> > then check the same way DBA . If DBA permit then comes to gochara. > > suppose jupiter dasa and venus bhukti so it is signify marriage but if suppose in gochara venus is in star or sub of 6th bhava lord then the event will not fructify. then the event will not happen because venus in 6th sub negate the marriage.> So u can chek the next bhkti and also antara. > > > Just i am sharing my views in KB system. > > Reg.,> sara> > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 4/1/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@ ...> wrote:> > vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@ ...>> Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010> @gro ups.com> Monday, 4 January, 2010, 10:58 AM> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Saraji Pranam, > > But Guruji Sri KSK said that 2 (kutumba) is a favourable for "progeny".and "marriage"(if i am not wrong , 2 is also harmful to 7th house matters because it is 8 to 7)> > pls clarify> > Peace and Prosperity to All !!> > VGR> > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, SARA RAJU <saraus2001@ . co.in> wrote:> > SARA RAJU <saraus2001@ . co.in>> Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010> @gro ups.com> Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 10:59 AM> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > CIL theory KB systems : > > Based on bhavas and karakas interlinked. > > 1,2,3,5,9,11 are good bhava for the questioned bhava.6,7 are neutral , 4,8,10,12 are adverse house. > > suppose for example take 5th cusp-child birth .For 5th cusp bhava sub-lord is connected through star lord and sub lord of 5,6,7,9,1,3 good for 5th bhava . because these bhavas are 1,2,3,5,9,11 for 5th bhava. > > 4,8,2,12 these bhavas are adverse effect for 5th house. > > Regards,> sara> > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, sairam nat <sairaman53> wrote:> > sairam nat <sairaman53>> Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010> @gro ups.com> Date:> Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 7:36 AM> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > CIL theory similar or extention of KP format in whatever sense it is told> developed by Shri K Baskaran from Madurai> > every bhava is fixed with the sub lord and the bhavas sub lord star lord if linked to 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 from that house is positve and if it is linked to 2 6 10 houses with help from out side and > most important is if a bhava is linked to its 4 8 12 houses through its star and sub that bhava is troubled and shall produce negative results> > suppose 1 sub lord jupiter and if it is in star of mars who is sub lord of 4 or 8 or 12th house lagna suffers during DBA of jupiter meets with accident etc> > here the karagha bhava and> kalapurusha lagna counted mesha as first house and the rasi karaghathva like water sign air sign fixed sign and also moving fixed and dual sign etc etc.should to be taken into account> > > the> kocharam ie transit of the DBA is also to be taken into account> > > above is basic based on the above the CIL theory is developed> > here star lord of bhava is dasa and sub lord is bukthi if the if the bukthi is not cooperative with the dasa the bhava produces negative results or results not expected out of it > suppose 5th sub lord is connected through its star who indicates 4 or 12 persons suffers through children commision and all karagha through 5th house > >  the character of sign the character of karagha the transit of DBA etc etc if seen in details the results arrived > > here one bhava is not favourable it is favourable to some other bhava > > like this it go on.......... ......> > > thank you> > Sairaman> > > > --- On Fri, 1/1/10, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > wrote:> > kondapaneni> suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ >> Re: CIL Theory> @gro ups.com> Friday, 1 January, 2010, 4:29 PM> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > what is this CIL Theory...>  > anyhow>  > sir,>  > suneel> > --- On Wed, 30/12/09, kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > wrote:> > > kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ >> CIL Theory> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 9:55 AM> > >  > > > > > > Hi,> > is anybody practicing cuspal interlinks theory, i want to know how far is it accurate when compared with kp system.> > Regards> > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 The question is 'how is KB analysis' for 'promise to have child'. , Naresh Valecha <superstaar_n_v wrote: > > After verifying the chart I found Moon Dasa favourable to have children was from 1996 onwards. The Fifth cuspal sublord is Moon cojoined with Jupiter making it favourable. > Good Luck... > Naresh Valecha > > --- On Tue, 5/1/10, TW <tw853 wrote: > > > TW <tw853 > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > Tuesday, 5 January, 2010, 12:54 AM > > >  > > > > Dear SARA RAJU, > > Could you kindly explain what would be the " opportunity to get the child " by the KB analysis for the following KB chart? > > Thanks and regards, > TW > > " Male " , 28 Jul 1968, 05:16 AM IST, 08N43, 77E44, Ayanamsa 23:24:25, > > Asc Sg 22:03:50 (Stl Ve- Sbl Sa); Sa is Sub Lord of 1,4,7,10; in star of Ke which is Sub Lord of 3,9; and in sub of Ve which which is Sub Lord of 11. > > 5th (Ar 28:29:04) bhava Sub Lord is Ma which is Sub Lord of 5; in star of Ju which is Sub Lord of 3,7,11; in own sub of Mar which is Sub Lord of 5. > > 11th (Li 28:29:04) bhava Sub Lord is Ve which is Sub Lord of 11; in star of Me which is Sub Lord of 4,8,12; and in sub of Mo which is Sub Lord of 8. > > Ju (Le 14:01:25) is Sub Lord of 3,7,11; in star and sub of Ve which is Sub Lord of 11. > > @gro ups.com, SARA RAJU <saraus2001@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear VGR , > > > > Pranam. Yes whtever u said is right. For marriage in KB system 5,7,11 are fruitful signifactors. Not consider 2nd house as u said its 8th house for 7th bhava. Any bhava or lagana 8th house is impediments and delay. Logic behind is very simple. > > > > There are four things u need to focus before interpreting charts based on KB systems whether birth chart or horary. > > > > 1) Birth time rectification > > 2) destiny(lagna should allow the event happen in your lifetime or not) > > 3) DBA( dasa bhukti antara should allow) > > 4)Gochara(current planetery postion) > > > > suppose for an example marriage; > > > > check the lagana whether there is destiny for marriage or not > > > > step 1. 1st cusp sublord -jupiter assume jupiter sub lord of 7. > > jupiter in the star of mercury and sub of venus > > > > step2. > > > > Mercury in bhavas- 5,11(star & sub level) sub is stronger than star . > > sub venus in bhavas - 3,9. > > > > here star lord mercury qualified by3 & 9 because it is 11 & 5 for 5th and 5 & 11 for 11th. > > > > so mercury qualified 5 & 11. > > > > over all lagana is supporting for 5,7,11. so marriage is promised. > > > > then check the same way DBA . If DBA permit then comes to gochara. > > > > suppose jupiter dasa and venus bhukti so it is signify marriage but if suppose in gochara venus is in star or sub of 6th bhava lord then the event will not fructify. then the event will not happen because venus in 6th sub negate the marriage. > > So u can chek the next bhkti and also antara. > > > > > > Just i am sharing my views in KB system. > > > > Reg., > > sara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 4/1/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@ ...> wrote: > > > > vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@ ...> > > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > @gro ups.com > > Monday, 4 January, 2010, 10:58 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saraji Pranam, > > > > But Guruji Sri KSK said that 2 (kutumba) is a favourable for " progeny " .and " marriage " (if i am not wrong , 2 is also harmful to 7th house matters because it is 8 to 7) > > > > pls clarify > > > > Peace and Prosperity to All !! > > > > VGR > > > > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, SARA RAJU <saraus2001@ . co.in> wrote: > > > > SARA RAJU <saraus2001@ . co.in> > > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > @gro ups.com > > Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 10:59 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CIL theory KB systems : > > > > Based on bhavas and karakas interlinked. > > > > 1,2,3,5,9,11 are good bhava for the questioned bhava.6,7 are neutral , 4,8,10,12 are adverse house. > > > > suppose for example take 5th cusp-child birth .For 5th cusp bhava sub-lord is connected through star lord and sub lord of 5,6,7,9,1,3 good for 5th bhava . because these bhavas are 1,2,3,5,9,11 for 5th bhava. > > > > 4,8,2,12 these bhavas are adverse effect for 5th house. > > > > Regards, > > sara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, sairam nat <sairaman53> wrote: > > > > sairam nat <sairaman53> > > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > @gro ups.com > > Date: > > Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 7:36 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CIL theory similar or extention of KP format in whatever sense it is told > > developed by Shri K Baskaran from Madurai > > > > every bhava is fixed with the sub lord and the bhavas sub lord star lord if linked to 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 from that house is positve and if it is linked to 2 6 10 houses with help from out side and > > most important is if a bhava is linked to its 4 8 12 houses through its star and sub that bhava is troubled and shall produce negative results > > > > suppose 1 sub lord jupiter and if it is in star of mars who is sub lord of 4 or 8 or 12th house lagna suffers during DBA of jupiter meets with accident etc > > > > here the karagha bhava and > > kalapurusha lagna counted mesha as first house and the rasi karaghathva like water sign air sign fixed sign and also moving fixed and dual sign etc etc.should to be taken into account > > > > > > the > > kocharam ie transit of the DBA is also to be taken into account > > > > > > above is basic based on the above the CIL theory is developed > > > > here star lord of bhava is dasa and sub lord is bukthi if the if the bukthi is not cooperative with the dasa the bhava produces negative results or results not expected out of it > > suppose 5th sub lord is connected through its star who indicates 4 or 12 persons suffers through children commision and all karagha through 5th house > > > >  the character of sign the character of karagha the transit of DBA etc etc if seen in details the results arrived > > > > here one bhava is not favourable it is favourable to some other bhava > > > > like this it go on.......... ...... > > > > > > thank you > > > > Sairaman > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 1/1/10, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > wrote: > > > > kondapaneni > > suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > > > Re: CIL Theory > > @gro ups.com > > Friday, 1 January, 2010, 4:29 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what is this CIL Theory... > >  > > anyhow > >  > > sir, > >  > > suneel > > > > --- On Wed, 30/12/09, kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > wrote: > > > > > > kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > > > CIL Theory > > @gro ups.com > > Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 9:55 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > is anybody practicing cuspal interlinks theory, i want to know how far is it accurate when compared with kp system. > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Dear TW ji,There is a mismatching between the given cuspal data details and birth time record. pls correct me if i am wrong .Afterthat i wil try my best.Thanks & regards,sara --- On Wed, 6/1/10, Naresh Valecha <superstaar_n_v wrote:Naresh Valecha <superstaar_n_vRe: Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 Date: Wednesday, 6 January, 2010, 7:49 PM After verifying the chart I found Moon Dasa favourable to have children was from 1996 onwards. The Fifth cuspal sublord is Moon cojoined with Jupiter making it favourable. Good Luck... Naresh Valecha--- On Tue, 5/1/10, TW <tw853 > wrote: TW <tw853 > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010@gro ups.comTuesday, 5 January, 2010, 12:54 AM Dear SARA RAJU,Could you kindly explain what would be the "opportunity to get the child" by the KB analysis for the following KB chart?Thanks and regards,TW"Male", 28 Jul 1968, 05:16 AM IST, 08N43, 77E44, Ayanamsa 23:24:25, Asc Sg 22:03:50 (Stl Ve- Sbl Sa); Sa is Sub Lord of 1,4,7,10; in star of Ke which is Sub Lord of 3,9; and in sub of Ve which which is Sub Lord of 11.5th (Ar 28:29:04) bhava Sub Lord is Ma which is Sub Lord of 5; in star of Ju which is Sub Lord of 3,7,11; in own sub of Mar which is Sub Lord of 5.11th (Li 28:29:04) bhava Sub Lord is Ve which is Sub Lord of 11; in star of Me which is Sub Lord of 4,8,12; and in sub of Mo which is Sub Lord of 8.Ju (Le 14:01:25) is Sub Lord of 3,7,11; in star and sub of Ve which is Sub Lord of 11.@gro ups.com, SARA RAJU <saraus2001@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear VGR ,> > Pranam. Yes whtever u said is right. For marriage in KB system 5,7,11 are fruitful signifactors. Not consider 2nd house as u said its 8th house for 7th bhava. Any bhava or lagana 8th house is impediments and delay. Logic behind is very simple.> > There are four things u need to focus before interpreting charts based on KB systems whether birth chart or horary.> > 1) Birth time rectification> 2) destiny(lagna should allow the event happen in your lifetime or not)> 3) DBA( dasa bhukti antara should allow)> 4)Gochara(current planetery postion) > > suppose for an example marriage;> > check the lagana whether there is destiny for marriage or not> > step 1. 1st cusp sublord -jupiter assume jupiter sub lord of 7.> jupiter in the star of mercury and sub of venus> > step2.> > Mercury in bhavas- 5,11(star & sub level) sub is stronger than star .> sub venus in bhavas - 3,9.> > here star lord mercury qualified by3 & 9 because it is 11 & 5 for 5th and 5 & 11 for 11th.> > so mercury qualified 5 & 11.> > over all lagana is supporting for 5,7,11. so marriage is promised.> > then check the same way DBA . If DBA permit then comes to gochara. > > suppose jupiter dasa and venus bhukti so it is signify marriage but if suppose in gochara venus is in star or sub of 6th bhava lord then the event will not fructify. then the event will not happen because venus in 6th sub negate the marriage.> So u can chek the next bhkti and also antara. > > > Just i am sharing my views in KB system. > > Reg.,> sara> > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 4/1/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@ ...> wrote:> > vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@ ...>> Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010> @gro ups.com> Monday, 4 January, 2010, 10:58 AM> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Saraji Pranam, > > But Guruji Sri KSK said that 2 (kutumba) is a favourable for "progeny".and "marriage"(if i am not wrong , 2 is also harmful to 7th house matters because it is 8 to 7)> > pls clarify> > Peace and Prosperity to All !!> > VGR> > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, SARA RAJU <saraus2001@ . co.in> wrote:> > SARA RAJU <saraus2001@ . co.in>> Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010> @gro ups.com> Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 10:59 AM> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > CIL theory KB systems : > > Based on bhavas and karakas interlinked. > > 1,2,3,5,9,11 are good bhava for the questioned bhava.6,7 are neutral , 4,8,10,12 are adverse house. > > suppose for example take 5th cusp-child birth .For 5th cusp bhava sub-lord is connected through star lord and sub lord of 5,6,7,9,1,3 good for 5th bhava . because these bhavas are 1,2,3,5,9,11 for 5th bhava. > > 4,8,2,12 these bhavas are adverse effect for 5th house. > > Regards,> sara> > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, sairam nat <sairaman53> wrote:> > sairam nat <sairaman53>> Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010> @gro ups.com> Date:> Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 7:36 AM> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > CIL theory similar or extention of KP format in whatever sense it is told> developed by Shri K Baskaran from Madurai> > every bhava is fixed with the sub lord and the bhavas sub lord star lord if linked to 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 from that house is positve and if it is linked to 2 6 10 houses with help from out side and > most important is if a bhava is linked to its 4 8 12 houses through its star and sub that bhava is troubled and shall produce negative results> > suppose 1 sub lord jupiter and if it is in star of mars who is sub lord of 4 or 8 or 12th house lagna suffers during DBA of jupiter meets with accident etc> > here the karagha bhava and> kalapurusha lagna counted mesha as first house and the rasi karaghathva like water sign air sign fixed sign and also moving fixed and dual sign etc etc.should to be taken into account> > > the> kocharam ie transit of the DBA is also to be taken into account> > > above is basic based on the above the CIL theory is developed> > here star lord of bhava is dasa and sub lord is bukthi if the if the bukthi is not cooperative with the dasa the bhava produces negative results or results not expected out of it > suppose 5th sub lord is connected through its star who indicates 4 or 12 persons suffers through children commision and all karagha through 5th house > >  the character of sign the character of karagha the transit of DBA etc etc if seen in details the results arrived > > here one bhava is not favourable it is favourable to some other bhava > > like this it go on.......... ......> > > thank you> > Sairaman> > > > --- On Fri, 1/1/10, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > wrote:> > kondapaneni> suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ >> Re: CIL Theory> @gro ups.com> Friday, 1 January, 2010, 4:29 PM> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > what is this CIL Theory...>  > anyhow>  > sir,>  > suneel> > --- On Wed, 30/12/09, kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > wrote:> > > kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ >> CIL Theory> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 9:55 AM> > >  > > > > > > Hi,> > is anybody practicing cuspal interlinks theory, i want to know how far is it accurate when compared with kp system.> > Regards> > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Why 6 is for arranged marriage? As per my understanding 3-9 connection is for arranged marriage. Regards Suprakash - TW Wednesday, January 06, 2010 10:54 AM Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 5th= love marriage6th= arranged marriage , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> Dear Sara ji,> > What would be then the significtors for (a)Love marriage and for (b)Arranged marriage ?> > regards,> Bhaskar.> > > > , SARA RAJU <saraus2001@> wrote:> >> > > > Dear VGR ,> > > > Pranam. Yes whtever u said is right. For marriage in KB system 5,7,11 are fruitful signifactors. Not consider 2nd house as u said its 8th house for 7th bhava. Any bhava or lagana 8th house is impediments and delay. Logic behind is very simple.> > > > There are four things u need to focus before interpreting charts based on KB systems whether birth chart or horary.> > > > 1) Birth time rectification> > 2) destiny(lagna should allow the event happen in your lifetime or not)> > 3) DBA( dasa bhukti antara should allow)> > 4)Gochara(current planetery postion) > > > > suppose for an example marriage;> > > > check the lagana whether there is destiny for marriage or not> > > > step 1. 1st cusp sublord -jupiter assume jupiter sub lord of 7.> > jupiter in the star of mercury and sub of venus> > > > step2.> > > > Mercury in bhavas- 5,11(star & sub level) sub is stronger than star .> > sub venus in bhavas - 3,9.> > > > here star lord mercury qualified by3 & 9 because it is 11 & 5 for 5th and 5 & 11 for 11th.> > > > so mercury qualified 5 & 11.> > > > over all lagana is supporting for 5,7,11. so marriage is promised.> > > > then check the same way DBA . If DBA permit then comes to gochara. > > > > suppose jupiter dasa and venus bhukti so it is signify marriage but if suppose in gochara venus is in star or sub of 6th bhava lord then the event will not fructify. then the event will not happen because venus in 6th sub negate the marriage.> > So u can chek the next bhkti and also antara. > > > > > > Just i am sharing my views in KB system. > > > > Reg.,> > sara> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 4/1/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@> wrote:> > > > vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@>> > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010> > > > Monday, 4 January, 2010, 10:58 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saraji Pranam, > > > > But Guruji Sri KSK said that 2 (kutumba) is a favourable for "progeny".and "marriage"(if i am not wrong , 2 is also harmful to 7th house matters because it is 8 to 7)> > > > pls clarify> > > > Peace and Prosperity to All !!> > > > VGR> > > > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, SARA RAJU <saraus2001 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > > SARA RAJU <saraus2001 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010> > @gro ups.com> > Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 10:59 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CIL theory KB systems : > > > > Based on bhavas and karakas interlinked. > > > > 1,2,3,5,9,11 are good bhava for the questioned bhava.6,7 are neutral , 4,8,10,12 are adverse house. > > > > suppose for example take 5th cusp-child birth .For 5th cusp bhava sub-lord is connected through star lord and sub lord of 5,6,7,9,1,3 good for 5th bhava . because these bhavas are 1,2,3,5,9,11 for 5th bhava. > > > > 4,8,2,12 these bhavas are adverse effect for 5th house. > > > > Regards,> > sara> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, sairam nat <sairaman53 > wrote:> > > > sairam nat <sairaman53 >> > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010> > @gro ups.com> > Date:> > Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 7:36 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CIL theory similar or extention of KP format in whatever sense it is told> > developed by Shri K Baskaran from Madurai> > > > every bhava is fixed with the sub lord and the bhavas sub lord star lord if linked to 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 from that house is positve and if it is linked to 2 6 10 houses with help from out side and > > most important is if a bhava is linked to its 4 8 12 houses through its star and sub that bhava is troubled and shall produce negative results> > > > suppose 1 sub lord jupiter and if it is in star of mars who is sub lord of 4 or 8 or 12th house lagna suffers during DBA of jupiter meets with accident etc> > > > here the karagha bhava and> > kalapurusha lagna counted mesha as first house and the rasi karaghathva like water sign air sign fixed sign and also moving fixed and dual sign etc etc.should to be taken into account> > > > > > the> > kocharam ie transit of the DBA is also to be taken into account> > > > > > above is basic based on the above the CIL theory is developed> > > > here star lord of bhava is dasa and sub lord is bukthi if the if the bukthi is not cooperative with the dasa the bhava produces negative results or results not expected out of it > > suppose 5th sub lord is connected through its star who indicates 4 or 12 persons suffers through children commision and all karagha through 5th house > > > >  the character of sign the character of karagha the transit of DBA etc etc if seen in details the results arrived > > > > here one bhava is not favourable it is favourable to some other bhava > > > > like this it go on.......... ......> > > > > > thank you> > > > Sairaman> > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 1/1/10, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > wrote:> > > > kondapaneni> > suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ >> > Re: CIL Theory> > @gro ups.com> > Friday, 1 January, 2010, 4:29 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what is this CIL Theory...> >  > > anyhow> >  > > sir,> >  > > suneel> > > > --- On Wed, 30/12/09, kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > wrote:> > > > > > kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ >> > CIL Theory> > @gro ups.com> > Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 9:55 AM> > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,> > > > is anybody practicing cuspal interlinks theory, i want to know how far is it accurate when compared with kp system.> > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Sir, I wanted Sara ji to actually bifercate the significators from arranged and love, because when Saraji says that 5,7 and 11 are significators for marriage, then what according to Saraji should we consider significators for " Love " and " arranged " . and now you say that 5th is for Love marriage, as we commonly know and 6th for arranged as we do not know commonly, then some confusion arises. regards, Bhaskar. , " TW " <tw853 wrote: > > 5th= love marriage > 6th= arranged marriage > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sara ji, > > > > What would be then the significtors for (a)Love marriage and for (b)Arranged marriage ? > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , SARA RAJU <saraus2001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear VGR , > > > > > > Pranam. Yes whtever u said is right. For marriage in KB system 5,7,11 are fruitful signifactors. Not consider 2nd house as u said its 8th house for 7th bhava. Any bhava or lagana 8th house is impediments and delay. Logic behind is very simple. > > > > > > There are four things u need to focus before interpreting charts based on KB systems whether birth chart or horary. > > > > > > 1) Birth time rectification > > > 2) destiny(lagna should allow the event happen in your lifetime or not) > > > 3) DBA( dasa bhukti antara should allow) > > > 4)Gochara(current planetery postion) > > > > > > suppose for an example marriage; > > > > > > check the lagana whether there is destiny for marriage or not > > > > > > step 1. 1st cusp sublord -jupiter assume jupiter sub lord of 7. > > > jupiter in the star of mercury and sub of venus > > > > > > step2. > > > > > > Mercury in bhavas- 5,11(star & sub level) sub is stronger than star . > > > sub venus in bhavas - 3,9. > > > > > > here star lord mercury qualified by3 & 9 because it is 11 & 5 for 5th and 5 & 11 for 11th. > > > > > > so mercury qualified 5 & 11. > > > > > > over all lagana is supporting for 5,7,11. so marriage is promised. > > > > > > then check the same way DBA . If DBA permit then comes to gochara. > > > > > > suppose jupiter dasa and venus bhukti so it is signify marriage but if suppose in gochara venus is in star or sub of 6th bhava lord then the event will not fructify. then the event will not happen because venus in 6th sub negate the marriage. > > > So u can chek the next bhkti and also antara. > > > > > > > > > Just i am sharing my views in KB system. > > > > > > Reg., > > > sara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 4/1/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@> wrote: > > > > > > vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@> > > > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > > > > > Monday, 4 January, 2010, 10:58 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saraji Pranam, > > > > > > But Guruji Sri KSK said that 2 (kutumba) is a favourable for " progeny " .and " marriage " (if i am not wrong , 2 is also harmful to 7th house matters because it is 8 to 7) > > > > > > pls clarify > > > > > > Peace and Prosperity to All !! > > > > > > VGR > > > > > > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, SARA RAJU <saraus2001 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > > SARA RAJU <saraus2001 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > > @gro ups.com > > > Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 10:59 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CIL theory KB systems : > > > > > > Based on bhavas and karakas interlinked. > > > > > > 1,2,3,5,9,11 are good bhava for the questioned bhava.6,7 are neutral , 4,8,10,12 are adverse house. > > > > > > suppose for example take 5th cusp-child birth .For 5th cusp bhava sub-lord is connected through star lord and sub lord of 5,6,7,9,1,3 good for 5th bhava . because these bhavas are 1,2,3,5,9,11 for 5th bhava. > > > > > > 4,8,2,12 these bhavas are adverse effect for 5th house. > > > > > > Regards, > > > sara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, sairam nat <sairaman53 > wrote: > > > > > > sairam nat <sairaman53 > > > > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > > @gro ups.com > > > Date: > > > Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 7:36 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CIL theory similar or extention of KP format in whatever sense it is told > > > developed by Shri K Baskaran from Madurai > > > > > > every bhava is fixed with the sub lord and the bhavas sub lord star lord if linked to 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 from that house is positve and if it is linked to 2 6 10 houses with help from out side and > > > most important is if a bhava is linked to its 4 8 12 houses through its star and sub that bhava is troubled and shall produce negative results > > > > > > suppose 1 sub lord jupiter and if it is in star of mars who is sub lord of 4 or 8 or 12th house lagna suffers during DBA of jupiter meets with accident etc > > > > > > here the karagha bhava and > > > kalapurusha lagna counted mesha as first house and the rasi karaghathva like water sign air sign fixed sign and also moving fixed and dual sign etc etc.should to be taken into account > > > > > > > > > the > > > kocharam ie transit of the DBA is also to be taken into account > > > > > > > > > above is basic based on the above the CIL theory is developed > > > > > > here star lord of bhava is dasa and sub lord is bukthi if the if the bukthi is not cooperative with the dasa the bhava produces negative results or results not expected out of it > > > suppose 5th sub lord is connected through its star who indicates 4 or 12 persons suffers through children commision and all karagha through 5th house > > > > > >  the character of sign the character of karagha the transit of DBA etc etc if seen in details the results arrived > > > > > > here one bhava is not favourable it is favourable to some other bhava > > > > > > like this it go on.......... ...... > > > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > Sairaman > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 1/1/10, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > wrote: > > > > > > kondapaneni > > > suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > > > > Re: CIL Theory > > > @gro ups.com > > > Friday, 1 January, 2010, 4:29 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what is this CIL Theory... > > >  > > > anyhow > > >  > > > sir, > > >  > > > suneel > > > > > > --- On Wed, 30/12/09, kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > > > > CIL Theory > > > @gro ups.com > > > Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 9:55 AM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > is anybody practicing cuspal interlinks theory, i want to know how far is it accurate when compared with kp system. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Dear Sara Raju ji, 1. You're right. I'm sorry for giving TOB 05:16 " AM " IST, as it is not found any AM or PM in the printed chart in a KB article. After running the chart on KPAstro 3.5, it is found to be TOB 05:16 " PM " IST. Usually AM or PM is shown in the printed chart. Now all will match for TOB 05:16 " PM " IST, and the Sid. Time is 13:21:45. 2. Pl just show us how is the " KB analysis for the promise to have the child " in your understanding of KB without putting much effort. Then we can discuss to learn something, although this is not the place to learn the CIL. Thanks and regards, TW , SARA RAJU <saraus2001 wrote: > > Dear TW ji, > There is a mismatching between the given cuspal data details  and birth time record. pls correct me if i am wrong .Afterthat i wil try my best. > Thanks & regards,sara > > --- On Wed, 6/1/10, Naresh Valecha <superstaar_n_v wrote: > > Naresh Valecha <superstaar_n_v > Re: Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > Wednesday, 6 January, 2010, 7:49 PM > > > > > > > > > >  > > > After verifying the chart I found Moon Dasa favourable to have children was from 1996 onwards. The Fifth cuspal sublord is Moon cojoined with Jupiter making it favourable. > Good Luck... > Naresh Valecha > > --- On Tue, 5/1/10, TW <tw853 > wrote: > > > TW <tw853 > > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > @gro ups.com > Tuesday, 5 January, 2010, 12:54 AM > > >  > > Dear SARA RAJU, > > Could you kindly explain what would be the " opportunity to get the child " by the KB analysis for the following KB chart? > > Thanks and regards, > TW > > " Male " , 28 Jul 1968, 05:16 AM IST, 08N43, 77E44, Ayanamsa 23:24:25, > > Asc Sg 22:03:50 (Stl Ve- Sbl Sa); Sa is Sub Lord of 1,4,7,10; in star of Ke which is Sub Lord of 3,9; and in sub of Ve which which is Sub Lord of 11. > > 5th (Ar 28:29:04) bhava Sub Lord is Ma which is Sub Lord of 5; in star of Ju which is Sub Lord of 3,7,11; in own sub of Mar which is Sub Lord of 5. > > 11th (Li 28:29:04) bhava Sub Lord is Ve which is Sub Lord of 11; in star of Me which is Sub Lord of 4,8,12; and in sub of Mo which is Sub Lord of 8. > > Ju (Le 14:01:25) is Sub Lord of 3,7,11; in star and sub of Ve which is Sub Lord of 11. > > @gro ups.com, SARA RAJU <saraus2001@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear VGR , > > > > Pranam. Yes whtever u said is right. For marriage in KB system 5,7,11 are fruitful signifactors. Not consider 2nd house as u said its 8th house for 7th bhava. Any bhava or lagana 8th house is impediments and delay. Logic behind is very simple. > > > > There are four things u need to focus before interpreting charts based on KB systems whether birth chart or horary. > > > > 1) Birth time rectification > > 2) destiny(lagna should allow the event happen in your lifetime or not) > > 3) DBA( dasa bhukti antara should allow) > > 4)Gochara(current planetery postion) > > > > suppose for an example marriage; > > > > check the lagana whether there is destiny for marriage or not > > > > step 1. 1st cusp sublord > -jupiter assume jupiter sub lord of 7. > > jupiter in the star of mercury and sub of venus > > > > step2. > > > > Mercury in bhavas- 5,11(star & sub level) sub is stronger than star . > > sub venus in bhavas - 3,9. > > > > here star lord mercury qualified by3 & 9 because it is 11 & 5 for 5th and 5 & 11 for 11th. > > > > so mercury qualified 5 & 11. > > > > over all lagana is supporting for 5,7,11. so marriage is promised. > > > > then check the same way DBA . If DBA permit then comes to gochara. > > > > suppose jupiter dasa and venus bhukti so it is signify marriage but if suppose in gochara venus is in star or sub of 6th bhava lord then the event will not fructify. then the event will not happen because venus in 6th sub negate the marriage. > > So u can chek the next bhkti and also antara. > > > > > > Just i am > sharing my views in KB system. > > > > Reg., > > sara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 4/1/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@ ...> wrote: > > > > vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@ ...> > > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > @gro ups.com > > Monday, 4 January, 2010, 10:58 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saraji Pranam, > > > > But Guruji Sri KSK said that 2 (kutumba) is a favourable for " progeny " .and " marriage " (if i am not wrong , 2 is also harmful to 7th house matters because it is 8 to 7) > > > > pls > clarify > > > > Peace and Prosperity to All !! > > > > VGR > > > > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, SARA RAJU <saraus2001@ . co.in> wrote: > > > > SARA RAJU <saraus2001@ . co.in> > > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > @gro ups.com > > Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 10:59 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CIL theory KB systems : > > > > Based on bhavas and karakas interlinked. > > > > 1,2,3,5,9,11 are good bhava for the questioned bhava.6,7 are neutral , 4,8,10,12 are adverse house. > > > > suppose for example take 5th cusp-child birth .For 5th cusp bhava sub-lord is connected through star lord and sub lord of 5,6,7,9,1,3 good for 5th bhava . because these bhavas are 1,2,3,5,9,11 for 5th > bhava. > > > > 4,8,2,12 these bhavas are adverse effect for 5th house. > > > > Regards, > > sara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, sairam nat <sairaman53> wrote: > > > > sairam nat <sairaman53> > > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > @gro ups.com > > Date: > > Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 7:36 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CIL theory similar or extention of KP format in whatever sense it is told > > developed by Shri K Baskaran from Madurai > > > > every bhava is fixed with the sub lord and the bhavas sub lord star lord if linked to 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 from that house is positve and if it is linked to 2 6 10 houses with help > from out side and > > most important is if a bhava is linked to its 4 8 12 houses through its star and sub that bhava is troubled and shall produce negative results > > > > suppose 1 sub lord jupiter and if it is in star of mars who is sub lord of 4 or 8 or 12th house lagna suffers during DBA of jupiter meets with accident etc > > > > here the karagha bhava and > > kalapurusha lagna counted mesha as first house and the rasi karaghathva like water sign air sign fixed sign and also moving fixed and dual sign etc etc.should to be taken into account > > > > > > the > > kocharam ie transit of the DBA is also to be taken into account > > > > > > above is basic based on the above the CIL theory is developed > > > > here star lord of bhava is dasa and sub lord is bukthi if the if the bukthi is not cooperative with the dasa the bhava produces negative results or results not > expected out of it > > suppose 5th sub lord is connected through its star who indicates 4 or 12 persons suffers through children commision and all karagha through 5th house > > > >  the character of sign the character of karagha the transit of DBA etc etc if seen in details the results arrived > > > > here one bhava is not favourable it is favourable to some other bhava > > > > like this it go on.......... ...... > > > > > > thank you > > > > Sairaman > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 1/1/10, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > wrote: > > > > kondapaneni > > suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > > > Re: CIL Theory > > @gro ups.com > > Friday, 1 January, 2010, 4:29 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what is this CIL Theory... > >  > > anyhow > >  > > sir, > >  > > suneel > > > > --- On Wed, 30/12/09, kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > wrote: > > > > > > kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > > > CIL Theory > > @gro ups.com > > Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 9:55 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > is anybody practicing cuspal interlinks theory, i want to know how far is it accurate when compared with kp system. > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Dear TW ji,As per the chart 5th cusp sub lord is mars.mars in the star of -jupiter .in the sub of rahu.jupiter star lord of 3,7,11. rahu sub lord of 6 & 12. Hence star lord position disqualified by sub lord. so only 6 & 12 bhavas strengthen. 6 & 12 are 2 & 8 for 5th scusps. hence as per kb p & rocreative power 5th cusp should involved with 2,5 & 11. but here it is very weak and destiny is not support for the jathaka.lets check the dasa bhukti antara.currently running on rahu dasa saturn bhuthi. again rahu involved in 6 & 12 star lord mercury involved 4,8,12 an sub of venus 1,9. so sub lord strengthen the bhavas 4,8,12. hence dasa also week. saturn bhuthi -saturn is sub lord of . 4 & 10 Throughout the chart all these interlinked(4,10,12,8) are disqualified for the progeney for the jathaka.Thanks and regards,saravanaraju.--- On Thu, 7/1/10, TW <tw853 wrote:TW <tw853 Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 Date: Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 7:03 PM Dear Sara Raju ji, 1. You're right. I'm sorry for giving TOB 05:16 "AM" IST, as it is not found any AM or PM in the printed chart in a KB article. After running the chart on KPAstro 3.5, it is found to be TOB 05:16 "PM" IST. Usually AM or PM is shown in the printed chart. Now all will match for TOB 05:16 "PM" IST, and the Sid. Time is 13:21:45. 2. Pl just show us how is the "KB analysis for the promise to have the child" in your understanding of KB without putting much effort. Then we can discuss to learn something, although this is not the place to learn the CIL. Thanks and regards, TW @gro ups.com, SARA RAJU <saraus2001@ ...> wrote: > > Dear TW ji, > There is a mismatching between the given cuspal data details  and birth time record. pls correct me if i am wrong .Afterthat i wil try my best. > Thanks & regards,sara > > --- On Wed, 6/1/10, Naresh Valecha <superstaar_ n_v wrote: > > Naresh Valecha <superstaar_ n_v > Re: Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > @gro ups.com > Wednesday, 6 January, 2010, 7:49 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > After verifying the chart I found Moon Dasa favourable to have children was from 1996 onwards. The Fifth cuspal sublord is Moon cojoined with Jupiter making it favourable. > Good Luck... > Naresh Valecha > > --- On Tue, 5/1/10, TW <tw853 > wrote: > > > TW <tw853 > > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > @gro ups.com > Tuesday, 5 January, 2010, 12:54 AM > > >  > > Dear SARA RAJU, > > Could you kindly explain what would be the "opportunity to get the child" by the KB analysis for the following KB chart? > > Thanks and regards, > TW > > "Male", 28 Jul 1968, 05:16 AM IST, 08N43, 77E44, Ayanamsa 23:24:25, > > Asc Sg 22:03:50 (Stl Ve- Sbl Sa); Sa is Sub Lord of 1,4,7,10; in star of Ke which is Sub Lord of 3,9; and in sub of Ve which which is Sub Lord of 11. > > 5th (Ar 28:29:04) bhava Sub Lord is Ma which is Sub Lord of 5; in star of Ju which is Sub Lord of 3,7,11; in own sub of Mar which is Sub Lord of 5. > > 11th (Li 28:29:04) bhava Sub Lord is Ve which is Sub Lord of 11; in star of Me which is Sub Lord of 4,8,12; and in sub of Mo which is Sub Lord of 8. > > Ju (Le 14:01:25) is Sub Lord of 3,7,11; in star and sub of Ve which is Sub Lord of 11. > > @gro ups.com, SARA RAJU <saraus2001@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear VGR , > > > > Pranam. Yes whtever u said is right. For marriage in KB system 5,7,11 are fruitful signifactors. Not consider 2nd house as u said its 8th house for 7th bhava. Any bhava or lagana 8th house is impediments and delay. Logic behind is very simple. > > > > There are four things u need to focus before interpreting charts based on KB systems whether birth chart or horary. > > > > 1) Birth time rectification > > 2) destiny(lagna should allow the event happen in your lifetime or not) > > 3) DBA( dasa bhukti antara should allow) > > 4)Gochara(current planetery postion) > > > > suppose for an example marriage; > > > > check the lagana whether there is destiny for marriage or not > > > > step 1. 1st cusp sublord > -jupiter assume jupiter sub lord of 7. > > jupiter in the star of mercury and sub of venus > > > > step2. > > > > Mercury in bhavas- 5,11(star & sub level) sub is stronger than star . > > sub venus in bhavas - 3,9. > > > > here star lord mercury qualified by3 & 9 because it is 11 & 5 for 5th and 5 & 11 for 11th. > > > > so mercury qualified 5 & 11. > > > > over all lagana is supporting for 5,7,11. so marriage is promised. > > > > then check the same way DBA . If DBA permit then comes to gochara. > > > > suppose jupiter dasa and venus bhukti so it is signify marriage but if suppose in gochara venus is in star or sub of 6th bhava lord then the event will not fructify. then the event will not happen because venus in 6th sub negate the marriage. > > So u can chek the next bhkti and also antara. > > > > > > Just i am > sharing my views in KB system. > > > > Reg., > > sara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 4/1/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@ ...> wrote: > > > > vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@ ...> > > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > @gro ups.com > > Monday, 4 January, 2010, 10:58 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saraji Pranam, > > > > But Guruji Sri KSK said that 2 (kutumba) is a favourable for "progeny".and "marriage"(if i am not wrong , 2 is also harmful to 7th house matters because it is 8 to 7) > > > > pls > clarify > > > > Peace and Prosperity to All !! > > > > VGR > > > > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, SARA RAJU <saraus2001@ . co.in> wrote: > > > > SARA RAJU <saraus2001@ . co.in> > > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > @gro ups.com > > Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 10:59 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CIL theory KB systems : > > > > Based on bhavas and karakas interlinked. > > > > 1,2,3,5,9,11 are good bhava for the questioned bhava.6,7 are neutral , 4,8,10,12 are adverse house. > > > > suppose for example take 5th cusp-child birth .For 5th cusp bhava sub-lord is connected through star lord and sub lord of 5,6,7,9,1,3 good for 5th bhava . because these bhavas are 1,2,3,5,9,11 for 5th > bhava. > > > > 4,8,2,12 these bhavas are adverse effect for 5th house. > > > > Regards, > > sara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, sairam nat <sairaman53> wrote: > > > > sairam nat <sairaman53> > > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > @gro ups.com > > Date: > > Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 7:36 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CIL theory similar or extention of KP format in whatever sense it is told > > developed by Shri K Baskaran from Madurai > > > > every bhava is fixed with the sub lord and the bhavas sub lord star lord if linked to 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 from that house is positve and if it is linked to 2 6 10 houses with help > from out side and > > most important is if a bhava is linked to its 4 8 12 houses through its star and sub that bhava is troubled and shall produce negative results > > > > suppose 1 sub lord jupiter and if it is in star of mars who is sub lord of 4 or 8 or 12th house lagna suffers during DBA of jupiter meets with accident etc > > > > here the karagha bhava and > > kalapurusha lagna counted mesha as first house and the rasi karaghathva like water sign air sign fixed sign and also moving fixed and dual sign etc etc.should to be taken into account > > > > > > the > > kocharam ie transit of the DBA is also to be taken into account > > > > > > above is basic based on the above the CIL theory is developed > > > > here star lord of bhava is dasa and sub lord is bukthi if the if the bukthi is not cooperative with the dasa the bhava produces negative results or results not > expected out of it > > suppose 5th sub lord is connected through its star who indicates 4 or 12 persons suffers through children commision and all karagha through 5th house > > > >  the character of sign the character of karagha the transit of DBA etc etc if seen in details the results arrived > > > > here one bhava is not favourable it is favourable to some other bhava > > > > like this it go on.......... ...... > > > > > > thank you > > > > Sairaman > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 1/1/10, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > wrote: > > > > kondapaneni > > suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > > > Re: CIL Theory > > @gro ups.com > > Friday, 1 January, 2010, 4:29 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what is this CIL Theory... > >  > > anyhow > >  > > sir, > >  > > suneel > > > > --- On Wed, 30/12/09, kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > wrote: > > > > > > kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > > > CIL Theory > > @gro ups.com > > Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 9:55 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > is anybody practicing cuspal interlinks theory, i want to know how far is it accurate when compared with kp system. > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Amendment answer to the chart of PROGENY put by TW: chart details 28/07/1968; birth time is 17-16hrs (as against previously stated 05-16am); at 08N43; 77E44 Note the fifth cusp: its MARS-SUN-MARS-RAHU. Its seen that Mars the fifth cuspal sublord is debiliated and also the fifth cusp falls in a barren sign. the Star lord Sun too posited in Gemini a barren sign and the Sub sub lord Rahu too posited in Aquarius again a barren sign. Mars is again in the star of Jupiter, lord of lagna and lord of 4th house(negation to the fifth) in the sub of Rahu placed in third in aquarius-A barren sign. Final conclusion.......... Difficulty in having child-No Progeny. Naresh Valecha--- On Fri, 8/1/10, SARA RAJU <saraus2001 wrote: SARA RAJU <saraus2001Re: Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 Date: Friday, 8 January, 2010, 7:52 AM Dear TW ji, As per the chart 5th cusp sub lord is mars. mars in the star of -jupiter . in the sub of rahu. jupiter star lord of 3,7,11. rahu sub lord of 6 & 12. Hence star lord position disqualified by sub lord. so only 6 & 12 bhavas strengthen. 6 & 12 are 2 & 8 for 5th scusps. hence as per kb p & rocreative power 5th cusp should involved with 2,5 & 11. but here it is very weak and destiny is not support for the jathaka. lets check the dasa bhukti antara. currently running on rahu dasa saturn bhuthi. again rahu involved in 6 & 12 star lord mercury involved 4,8,12 an sub of venus 1,9. so sub lord strengthen the bhavas 4,8,12. hence dasa also week. saturn bhuthi -saturn is sub lord of . 4 & 10 Throughout the chart all these interlinked( 4,10,12,8) are disqualified for the progeney for the jathaka. Thanks and regards, saravanaraju. --- On Thu, 7/1/10, TW <tw853 > wrote: TW <tw853 > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010@gro ups.comThursday, 7 January, 2010, 7:03 PM Dear Sara Raju ji,1. You're right. I'm sorry for giving TOB 05:16 "AM" IST, as it is not found any AM or PM in the printed chart in a KB article. After running the chart on KPAstro 3.5, it is found to be TOB 05:16 "PM" IST. Usually AM or PM is shown in the printed chart. Now all will match for TOB 05:16 "PM" IST, and the Sid. Time is 13:21:45.2. Pl just show us how is the "KB analysis for the promise to have the child" in your understanding of KB without putting much effort.Then we can discuss to learn something, although this is not the place to learn the CIL.Thanks and regards,TW @gro ups.com, SARA RAJU <saraus2001@ ...> wrote:>> Dear TW ji,> There is a mismatching between the given cuspal data details  and birth time record. pls correct me if i am wrong .Afterthat i wil try my best.> Thanks & regards,sara > > --- On Wed, 6/1/10, Naresh Valecha <superstaar_ n_v wrote:> > Naresh Valecha <superstaar_ n_v> Re: Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, 6 January, 2010, 7:49 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > After verifying the chart I found Moon Dasa favourable to have children was from 1996 onwards. The Fifth cuspal sublord is Moon cojoined with Jupiter making it favourable.> Good Luck...> Naresh Valecha> > --- On Tue, 5/1/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:> > > TW <tw853 >> Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, 5 January, 2010, 12:54 AM> > >  > > Dear SARA RAJU,> > Could you kindly explain what would be the "opportunity to get the child" by the KB analysis for the following KB chart?> > Thanks and regards,> TW> > "Male", 28 Jul 1968, 05:16 AM IST, 08N43, 77E44, Ayanamsa 23:24:25, > > Asc Sg 22:03:50 (Stl Ve- Sbl Sa); Sa is Sub Lord of 1,4,7,10; in star of Ke which is Sub Lord of 3,9; and in sub of Ve which which is Sub Lord of 11.> > 5th (Ar 28:29:04) bhava Sub Lord is Ma which is Sub Lord of 5; in star of Ju which is Sub Lord of 3,7,11; in own sub of Mar which is Sub Lord of 5.> > 11th (Li 28:29:04) bhava Sub Lord is Ve which is Sub Lord of 11; in star of Me which is Sub Lord of 4,8,12; and in sub of Mo which is Sub Lord of 8.> > Ju (Le 14:01:25) is Sub Lord of 3,7,11; in star and sub of Ve which is Sub Lord of 11.> > @gro ups.com, SARA RAJU <saraus2001@ ...> wrote:> >> > > > Dear VGR ,> > > > Pranam. Yes whtever u said is right. For marriage in KB system 5,7,11 are fruitful signifactors. Not consider 2nd house as u said its 8th house for 7th bhava. Any bhava or lagana 8th house is impediments and delay. Logic behind is very simple.> > > > There are four things u need to focus before interpreting charts based on KB systems whether birth chart or horary.> > > > 1) Birth time rectification> > 2) destiny(lagna should allow the event happen in your lifetime or not)> > 3) DBA( dasa bhukti antara should allow)> > 4)Gochara(current planetery postion) > > > > suppose for an example marriage;> > > > check the lagana whether there is destiny for marriage or not> > > > step 1. 1st cusp sublord> -jupiter assume jupiter sub lord of 7.> > jupiter in the star of mercury and sub of venus> > > > step2.> > > > Mercury in bhavas- 5,11(star & sub level) sub is stronger than star .> > sub venus in bhavas - 3,9.> > > > here star lord mercury qualified by3 & 9 because it is 11 & 5 for 5th and 5 & 11 for 11th.> > > > so mercury qualified 5 & 11.> > > > over all lagana is supporting for 5,7,11. so marriage is promised.> > > > then check the same way DBA . If DBA permit then comes to gochara. > > > > suppose jupiter dasa and venus bhukti so it is signify marriage but if suppose in gochara venus is in star or sub of 6th bhava lord then the event will not fructify. then the event will not happen because venus in 6th sub negate the marriage.> > So u can chek the next bhkti and also antara. > > > > > > Just i am> sharing my views in KB system. > > > > Reg.,> > sara> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 4/1/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@ ...> wrote:> > > > vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@ ...>> > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010> > @gro ups.com> > Monday, 4 January, 2010, 10:58 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saraji Pranam, > > > > But Guruji Sri KSK said that 2 (kutumba) is a favourable for "progeny".and "marriage"(if i am not wrong , 2 is also harmful to 7th house matters because it is 8 to 7)> > > > pls> clarify> > > > Peace and Prosperity to All !!> > > > VGR> > > > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, SARA RAJU <saraus2001@ . co.in> wrote:> > > > SARA RAJU <saraus2001@ . co.in>> > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010> > @gro ups.com> > Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 10:59 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CIL theory KB systems : > > > > Based on bhavas and karakas interlinked. > > > > 1,2,3,5,9,11 are good bhava for the questioned bhava.6,7 are neutral , 4,8,10,12 are adverse house. > > > > suppose for example take 5th cusp-child birth .For 5th cusp bhava sub-lord is connected through star lord and sub lord of 5,6,7,9,1,3 good for 5th bhava . because these bhavas are 1,2,3,5,9,11 for 5th> bhava. > > > > 4,8,2,12 these bhavas are adverse effect for 5th house. > > > > Regards,> > sara> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, sairam nat <sairaman53> wrote:> > > > sairam nat <sairaman53@ . com>> > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010> > @gro ups.com> > Date:> > Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 7:36 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CIL theory similar or extention of KP format in whatever sense it is told> > developed by Shri K Baskaran from Madurai> > > > every bhava is fixed with the sub lord and the bhavas sub lord star lord if linked to 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 from that house is positve and if it is linked to 2 6 10 houses with help> from out side and > > most important is if a bhava is linked to its 4 8 12 houses through its star and sub that bhava is troubled and shall produce negative results> > > > suppose 1 sub lord jupiter and if it is in star of mars who is sub lord of 4 or 8 or 12th house lagna suffers during DBA of jupiter meets with accident etc> > > > here the karagha bhava and> > kalapurusha lagna counted mesha as first house and the rasi karaghathva like water sign air sign fixed sign and also moving fixed and dual sign etc etc.should to be taken into account> > > > > > the> > kocharam ie transit of the DBA is also to be taken into account> > > > > > above is basic based on the above the CIL theory is developed> > > > here star lord of bhava is dasa and sub lord is bukthi if the if the bukthi is not cooperative with the dasa the bhava produces negative results or results not> expected out of it > > suppose 5th sub lord is connected through its star who indicates 4 or 12 persons suffers through children commision and all karagha through 5th house > > > >  the character of sign the character of karagha the transit of DBA etc etc if seen in details the results arrived > > > > here one bhava is not favourable it is favourable to some other bhava > > > > like this it go on.......... ......> > > > > > thank you> > > > Sairaman> > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 1/1/10, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > wrote:> > > > kondapaneni> > suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ >> > Re: CIL Theory> > @gro ups.com> > Friday, 1 January, 2010, 4:29 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > what is this CIL Theory...> >  > > anyhow> >  > > sir,> >  > > suneel> > > > --- On Wed, 30/12/09, kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > wrote:> > > > > > kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ >> > CIL Theory> > @gro ups.com> > Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 9:55 AM> > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,> > > > is anybody practicing cuspal interlinks theory, i want to know how far is it accurate when compared with kp system.> > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> >> > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Dear Sara Raju ji, For your information, not for discussion, a KB analysis is attached. Here the point is that the concerned 5th CSL is considered, not 1st CSL. The difference is that in KP for a male we start with 11th CSL and then also 5th CSL, and significators are taken by occupation and lordship of the CSL planet, its star and sub. Thanks and regards, TW How to predict horoscope through K.B system-5 By: A. Devaraj (Jyothish Kalaa Rathna ) KP-Ezine Feb 2008 issue 10. Is he has an opportunity to the child birth? The 5th bhava determine the fate of the child birth. Here 5th bhava sub lord is the mars. The mars in the star of Jupiter and in the sub of mars. Jupiter is the sub lord of the 3, 7,11th sub lord and mars is the only sub lord of 5th bhava. So: the 5th bhavam inter-linked with 3, 5, 7, 11th bhava. The readers can already know that the above interlinked bhavas are favour to the 5th bhava. So: this person has a strong fate to get the child. Next the planet karaka also play a main role like bhava karaka (5th bhava Fate), to determine the fate of the child birth. The Jupiter (karaka of the child)will determine fate of the child birth. The Jupiter is in the venus star and venus sub. Jupiter is the 3, 7,11th bhava star lord and venus is the 11th bhava sub lord. So Jupiter is strongly interlinked with the 3, 7,11th bhava. The above referred 3, 7,11th bhavas are favorable to the 5th bhava and the planet karaka also very supported to the child birth in this chart. This gentleman get married on 8-6-1997 and he get the first child on 3-8-1998 and 2nd child on 26-8-1999. He gets the two children within two years. In this period, running dasa is mars, which is 5th bhava sub lord. The 5th bhava sub lord mars gives full result in its dasa periode. , SARA RAJU <saraus2001 wrote: > > > > Dear TW ji, > As per the chart 5th cusp sub lord is mars. > mars in the star of -jupiter .in the sub of rahu. > jupiter star lord of 3,7,11. rahu sub lord of 6 & 12. Hence star lord position disqualified by sub lord. so only 6 & 12 bhavas strengthen. > 6 & 12 are 2 & 8 for 5th scusps. hence as per kb p & rocreative power 5th cusp should involved with 2,5 & 11. but here it is very weak and destiny is not support for the jathaka. > lets check the dasa bhukti  antara. > currently running on rahu dasa saturn bhuthi. again rahu involved in 6 & 12 star lord mercury involved 4,8,12 an sub of venus 1,9. so sub lord strengthen the bhavas 4,8,12. hence dasa also week. > saturn bhuthi -saturn is  sub lord of . 4 & 10 > Throughout the chart all these interlinked(4,10,12,8) are disqualified for  the progeney for the jathaka. > Thanks and regards,saravanaraju. > --- On Thu, 7/1/10, TW <tw853 wrote: > > TW <tw853 > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 7:03 PM > > > > > > > > > >  > > > Dear Sara Raju ji, > > 1. You're right. I'm sorry for giving TOB 05:16 " AM " IST, as it is not found any AM or PM in the printed chart in a KB article. After running the chart on KPAstro 3.5, it is found to be TOB 05:16 " PM " IST. Usually AM or PM is shown in the printed chart. Now all will match for TOB 05:16 " PM " IST, and the Sid. Time is 13:21:45. > > 2. Pl just show us how is the " KB analysis for the promise to have the child " in your understanding of KB without putting much effort. > > Then we can discuss to learn something, although this is not the place to learn the CIL. > > Thanks and regards, > > TW > > > > @gro ups.com, SARA RAJU <saraus2001@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear TW ji, > > > There is a mismatching between the given cuspal data details  and birth time record. pls correct me if i am wrong .Afterthat i wil try my best. > > > Thanks & regards,sara > > > > > > --- On Wed, 6/1/10, Naresh Valecha <superstaar_ n_v@> wrote: > > > > > > Naresh Valecha <superstaar_ n_v@> > > > Re: Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > > @gro ups.com > > > Wednesday, 6 January, 2010, 7:49 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After verifying the chart I found Moon Dasa favourable to have children was from 1996 onwards. The Fifth cuspal sublord is Moon cojoined with Jupiter making it favourable. > > > Good Luck... > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > --- On Tue, 5/1/10, TW <tw853 > wrote: > > > > > > > > > TW <tw853 > > > > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > > @gro ups.com > > > Tuesday, 5 January, 2010, 12:54 AM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > Dear SARA RAJU, > > > > > > Could you kindly explain what would be the " opportunity to get the child " by the KB analysis for the following KB chart? > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > TW > > > > > > " Male " , 28 Jul 1968, 05:16 AM IST, 08N43, 77E44, Ayanamsa 23:24:25, > > > > > > Asc Sg 22:03:50 (Stl Ve- Sbl Sa); Sa is Sub Lord of 1,4,7,10; in star of Ke which is Sub Lord of 3,9; and in sub of Ve which which is Sub Lord of 11. > > > > > > 5th (Ar 28:29:04) bhava Sub Lord is Ma which is Sub Lord of 5; in star of Ju which is Sub Lord of 3,7,11; in own sub of Mar which is Sub Lord of 5. > > > > > > 11th (Li 28:29:04) bhava Sub Lord is Ve which is Sub Lord of 11; in star of Me which is Sub Lord of 4,8,12; and in sub of Mo which is Sub Lord of 8. > > > > > > Ju (Le 14:01:25) is Sub Lord of 3,7,11; in star and sub of Ve which is Sub Lord of 11. > > > > > > @gro ups.com, SARA RAJU <saraus2001@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear VGR , > > > > > > > > Pranam. Yes whtever u said is right. For marriage in KB system 5,7,11 are fruitful signifactors. Not consider 2nd house as u said its 8th house for 7th bhava. Any bhava or lagana 8th house is impediments and delay. Logic behind is very simple. > > > > > > > > There are four things u need to focus before interpreting charts based on KB systems whether birth chart or horary. > > > > > > > > 1) Birth time rectification > > > > 2) destiny(lagna should allow the event happen in your lifetime or not) > > > > 3) DBA( dasa bhukti antara should allow) > > > > 4)Gochara(current planetery postion) > > > > > > > > suppose for an example marriage; > > > > > > > > check the lagana whether there is destiny for marriage or not > > > > > > > > step 1. 1st cusp sublord > > > -jupiter assume jupiter sub lord of 7. > > > > jupiter in the star of mercury and sub of venus > > > > > > > > step2. > > > > > > > > Mercury in bhavas- 5,11(star & sub level) sub is stronger than star . > > > > sub venus in bhavas - 3,9. > > > > > > > > here star lord mercury qualified by3 & 9 because it is 11 & 5 for 5th and 5 & 11 for 11th. > > > > > > > > so mercury qualified 5 & 11. > > > > > > > > over all lagana is supporting for 5,7,11. so marriage is promised. > > > > > > > > then check the same way DBA . If DBA permit then comes to gochara. > > > > > > > > suppose jupiter dasa and venus bhukti so it is signify marriage but if suppose in gochara venus is in star or sub of 6th bhava lord then the event will not fructify. then the event will not happen because venus in 6th sub negate the marriage. > > > > So u can chek the next bhkti and also antara. > > > > > > > > > > > > Just i am > > > sharing my views in KB system. > > > > > > > > Reg., > > > > sara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 4/1/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@ ...> > > > > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Monday, 4 January, 2010, 10:58 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saraji Pranam, > > > > > > > > But Guruji Sri KSK said that 2 (kutumba) is a favourable for " progeny " .and " marriage " (if i am not wrong , 2 is also harmful to 7th house matters because it is 8 to 7) > > > > > > > > pls > > > clarify > > > > > > > > Peace and Prosperity to All !! > > > > > > > > VGR > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, SARA RAJU <saraus2001@ . co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > SARA RAJU <saraus2001@ . co.in> > > > > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 10:59 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CIL theory KB systems : > > > > > > > > Based on bhavas and karakas interlinked. > > > > > > > > 1,2,3,5,9,11 are good bhava for the questioned bhava.6,7 are neutral , 4,8,10,12 are adverse house. > > > > > > > > suppose for example take 5th cusp-child birth .For 5th cusp bhava sub-lord is connected through star lord and sub lord of 5,6,7,9,1,3 good for 5th bhava . because these bhavas are 1,2,3,5,9,11 for 5th > > > bhava. > > > > > > > > 4,8,2,12 these bhavas are adverse effect for 5th house. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > sara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 2/1/10, sairam nat <sairaman53> wrote: > > > > > > > > sairam nat <sairaman53> > > > > Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Date: > > > > Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 7:36 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CIL theory similar or extention of KP format in whatever sense it is told > > > > developed by Shri K Baskaran from Madurai > > > > > > > > every bhava is fixed with the sub lord and the bhavas sub lord star lord if linked to 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 from that house is positve and if it is linked to 2 6 10 houses with help > > > from out side and > > > > most important is if a bhava is linked to its 4 8 12 houses through its star and sub that bhava is troubled and shall produce negative results > > > > > > > > suppose 1 sub lord jupiter and if it is in star of mars who is sub lord of 4 or 8 or 12th house lagna suffers during DBA of jupiter meets with accident etc > > > > > > > > here the karagha bhava and > > > > kalapurusha lagna counted mesha as first house and the rasi karaghathva like water sign air sign fixed sign and also moving fixed and dual sign etc etc.should to be taken into account > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > kocharam ie transit of the DBA is also to be taken into account > > > > > > > > > > > > above is basic based on the above the CIL theory is developed > > > > > > > > here star lord of bhava is dasa and sub lord is bukthi if the if the bukthi is not cooperative with the dasa the bhava produces negative results or results not > > > expected out of it > > > > suppose 5th sub lord is connected through its star who indicates 4 or 12 persons suffers through children commision and all karagha through 5th house > > > > > > > >  the character of sign the character of karagha the transit of DBA etc etc if seen in details the results arrived > > > > > > > > here one bhava is not favourable it is favourable to some other bhava > > > > > > > > like this it go on.......... ...... > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > > > Sairaman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 1/1/10, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > kondapaneni > > > > suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > > > > > Re: CIL Theory > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Friday, 1 January, 2010, 4:29 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what is this CIL Theory... > > > >  > > > > anyhow > > > >  > > > > sir, > > > >  > > > > suneel > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 30/12/09, kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > > > > > CIL Theory > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 9:55 AM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > is anybody practicing cuspal interlinks theory, i want to know how far is it accurate when compared with kp system. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 Dear Sara Rajuji, Regarding Gochara in your message. Example - Jupiter Dasa Venus Bhukti. This period lasts for 2 years and 8 months. In these 2 years and 8 months Venus transits the whole Zodiac for about 3 times. So transit of Venus in star or sub of the 6th lord shall not extend for the whole bhukti period. Then where is the justification for by-passing Venus bhukti and consider next bhukti? Will you kindly clarify? Thanking you. Dr. Rath SARA RAJU <saraus2001 Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 1:33:25 PMRe: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010 Dear VGR ,Pranam. Yes whtever u said is right. For marriage in KB system 5,7,11 are fruitful signifactors. Not consider 2nd house as u said its 8th house for 7th bhava. Any bhava or lagana 8th house is impediments and delay. Logic behind is very simple.There are four things u need to focus before interpreting charts based on KB systems whether birth chart or horary.1) Birth time rectification2) destiny(lagna should allow the event happen in your lifetime or not)3) DBA( dasa bhukti antara should allow)4)Gochara(current planetery postion) suppose for an example marriage;check the lagana whether there is destiny for marriage or notstep 1. 1st cusp sublord -jupiter assume jupiter sub lord of 7.jupiter in the star of mercury and sub of venusstep2.Mercury in bhavas- 5,11(star & sub level) sub is stronger than star .sub venus in bhavas - 3,9.here star lord mercury qualified by3 & 9 because it is 11 & 5 for 5th and 5 & 11 for 11th.so mercury qualified 5 & 11.over all lagana is supporting for 5,7,11. so marriage is promised.then check the same way DBA . If DBA permit then comes to gochara. suppose jupiter dasa and venus bhukti so it is signify marriage but if suppose in gochara venus is in star or sub of 6th bhava lord then the event will not fructify. then the event will not happen because venus in 6th sub negate the marriage.So u can chek the next bhkti and also antara. Just i am sharing my views in KB system. Reg.,sara--- On Mon, 4/1/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010@gro ups.comMonday, 4 January, 2010, 10:58 AM Saraji Pranam, But Guruji Sri KSK said that 2 (kutumba) is a favourable for "progeny".and "marriage"(if i am not wrong , 2 is also harmful to 7th house matters because it is 8 to 7)pls clarifyPeace and Prosperity to All !!VGR--- On Sat, 2/1/10, SARA RAJU <saraus2001 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: SARA RAJU <saraus2001 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010@gro ups.comSaturday, 2 January, 2010, 10:59 AM CIL theory KB systems : Based on bhavas and karakas interlinked. 1,2,3,5,9,11 are good bhava for the questioned bhava.6,7 are neutral , 4,8,10,12 are adverse house. suppose for example take 5th cusp-child birth .For 5th cusp bhava sub-lord is connected through star lord and sub lord of 5,6,7,9,1,3 good for 5th bhava . because these bhavas are 1,2,3,5,9,11 for 5th bhava. 4,8,2,12 these bhavas are adverse effect for 5th house. Regards,sara--- On Sat, 2/1/10, sairam nat <sairaman53 > wrote: sairam nat <sairaman53 >Re: CIL Theory sai 2 1 2010@gro ups.comSaturday, 2 January, 2010, 7:36 AM CIL theory similar or extention of KP format in whatever sense it is tolddeveloped by Shri K Baskaran from Maduraievery bhava is fixed with the sub lord and the bhavas sub lord star lord if linked to 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 from that house is positve and if it is linked to 2 6 10 houses with help from out side and most important is if a bhava is linked to its 4 8 12 houses through its star and sub that bhava is troubled and shall produce negative resultssuppose 1 sub lord jupiter and if it is in star of mars who is sub lord of 4 or 8 or 12th house lagna suffers during DBA of jupiter meets with accident etchere the karagha bhava and kalapurusha lagna counted mesha as first house and the rasi karaghathva like water sign air sign fixed sign and also moving fixed and dual sign etc etc.should to be taken into accountthe kocharam ie transit of the DBA is also to be taken into accountabove is basic based on the above the CIL theory is developedhere star lord of bhava is dasa and sub lord is bukthi if the if the bukthi is not cooperative with the dasa the bhava produces negative results or results not expected out of it suppose 5th sub lord is connected through its star who indicates 4 or 12 persons suffers through children commision and all karagha through 5th house the character of sign the character of karagha the transit of DBA etc etc if seen in details the results arrived here one bhava is not favourable it is favourable to some other bhava like this it go on.......... ......thank youSairaman--- On Fri, 1/1/10, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ > wrote: kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhamma@ >Re: CIL Theory@gro ups.comFriday, 1 January, 2010, 4:29 PM what is this CIL Theory... anyhow sir, suneel--- On Wed, 30/12/09, kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > wrote: kumar gautam <swami_gautam@ > CIL Theory@gro ups.comWednesday, 30 December, 2009, 9:55 AM Hi,is anybody practicing cuspal interlinks theory, i want to know how far is it accurate when compared with kp system.Regards The INTERNET now has a personality. 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