Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Dear Friends, Without wasting time on this non-RP based Asc-Mo connection rule, not supported by hard evidence of practical charts from the published astrological literature, let us move on the issue of Sensitive Points as asked by a member. 1. The article on `Sensitive Point' in " Astrosecrets & KP, Part II, 2003, pp 141-146 is a compilation of references, like KP Reader V pp 161-163 (Old Edition 154-156), 189-192 (Old Edition 180-182), RP & KP, 1985, pp 85-89, Astrosecrets & KP, Part II, 2003, pp 86-105 etc. 2. Some old messages are generally grouped into three categories as follows: 1) Group 1 /message/23093 /message/23102?threaded=1 & l=1 /message/22989?threaded=1 & l=1 /message/22814?threaded=1 & l=1 /message/22850?threaded=1 & l=1 /message/22654?threaded=1 & l=1 /message/22654?threaded=1 & l=1 2) Group 2 /message/29875?threaded=1 & l=1 /message/29880 /message/29872 3) Group 3 /message/4982?threaded=1 & l=1 /message/4973?threaded=1 & l=1 /message/4954?threaded=1 & l=1 3. To start the ball roll, for the chosen DBA of fruitful significators for an event to materialize, say conjoined period of Sun, Venus, Mercury, then Sun sign, Venus star, Mercury sub; Venus sign, Sun star, Mercury sub, and Mercury sign, Sun star, Venus sub are the three sensitive and fruitful positions, which will be transited by Ascendant, Luminaries and the planets ruling the Dasa, Bhukti and Anthara. The sensitive positions when transited by the Ascendant degree, the exact hour and minute of the event can be told. If Moon is moved to that sensitive degree the day of the event can be arrived at. If the Sun, then month. If Jupiter then the year can be arrived at. (KP Reader V pp 161-163 <Old Edition 154-156>, Reader VI p 131, RP & KP p 69-72) 8. Fast or short predictions can be given just based on the Ruling Planets directly. A timing of an event can be fixed by using only the Ruling Planets calculated at a particular moment of time without resorting to the Natal or Horary chart as follows (KP Reader V pp 161-163 <Old Edition 154-156>, Reader VI p 131, RP & KP p 69-72): 1) If an event is likely to take place within a few hours, move the Ascendant counting from the Ascending degree of the moment of judgment to the sensitive zone where one ruling planet becomes the sign lord, second ruling planet becomes the star lord and third ruling planet become the sub lord; 2) If the event is expected to happen within some days, move the Moon to such a sensitive zone; or 3) If it is to take place in some months, move the Sun; or 4) If it is to happen in some years, Jupiter should be moved to find out the time of event. Contribution of members are requested. Thanks and regards, TW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Dear Friends,My sincere thanks to Guruji TW ji, for his another foundation stone for a topical discussion on Sensitive Points, which will be useful for new comers and students.With RegardsKalyanTW <tw853 Sent: Sat, 2 January, 2010 10:45:41 AM Sensitive Points Dear Friends, Without wasting time on this non-RP based Asc-Mo connection rule, not supported by hard evidence of practical charts from the published astrological literature, let us move on the issue of Sensitive Points as asked by a member. 1. The article on `Sensitive Point' in "Astrosecrets & KP, Part II, 2003, pp 141-146 is a compilation of references, like KP Reader V pp 161-163 (Old Edition 154-156), 189-192 (Old Edition 180-182), RP & KP, 1985, pp 85-89, Astrosecrets & KP, Part II, 2003, pp 86-105 etc. 2. Some old messages are generally grouped into three categories as follows: 1) Group 1 http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 23093 http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 23102?threaded= 1 & l=1 http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22989?threaded= 1 & l=1 http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22814?threaded= 1 & l=1 http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22850?threaded= 1 & l=1 http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22654?threaded= 1 & l=1 http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22654?threaded= 1 & l=1 2) Group 2 http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 29875?threaded= 1 & l=1 http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 29880 http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 29872 3) Group 3 http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 4982?threaded= 1 & l=1 http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 4973?threaded= 1 & l=1 http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 4954?threaded= 1 & l=1 3. To start the ball roll, for the chosen DBA of fruitful significators for an event to materialize, say conjoined period of Sun, Venus, Mercury, then Sun sign, Venus star, Mercury sub; Venus sign, Sun star, Mercury sub, and Mercury sign, Sun star, Venus sub are the three sensitive and fruitful positions, which will be transited by Ascendant, Luminaries and the planets ruling the Dasa, Bhukti and Anthara. The sensitive positions when transited by the Ascendant degree, the exact hour and minute of the event can be told. If Moon is moved to that sensitive degree the day of the event can be arrived at. If the Sun, then month. If Jupiter then the year can be arrived at. (KP Reader V pp 161-163 <Old Edition 154-156>, Reader VI p 131, RP & KP p 69-72) 8. Fast or short predictions can be given just based on the Ruling Planets directly. A timing of an event can be fixed by using only the Ruling Planets calculated at a particular moment of time without resorting to the Natal or Horary chart as follows (KP Reader V pp 161-163 <Old Edition 154-156>, Reader VI p 131, RP & KP p 69-72): 1) If an event is likely to take place within a few hours, move the Ascendant counting from the Ascending degree of the moment of judgment to the sensitive zone where one ruling planet becomes the sign lord, second ruling planet becomes the star lord and third ruling planet become the sub lord; 2) If the event is expected to happen within some days, move the Moon to such a sensitive zone; or 3) If it is to take place in some months, move the Sun; or 4) If it is to happen in some years, Jupiter should be moved to find out the time of event. Contribution of members are requested. Thanks and regards, TW See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Dear Tw ji and Friends, It looks like an excellent idea to discuss this topic. It is very important topic for timing events. The " Sensitive Point " article talked about various points and I have noted down as follows - Point 1. If we have selected mahadasa and bhukti, During fuctification of the event, Sun will either transit in a) rasi of mahadasa lord and star of bhukti lord, OR b) rasi of bhukti lord and star of mahadasa lord Point 2. (Suggested improvisation of Point 1) As KP is stellar theory, one shoud ignore sign and focus on star and sub. So improvisation of above Point no 1 can be, if we have selected mahadasa and bhukti, at the time of fructification of event, Sun will transit in star of mahadasa lord and sub of bhukti lord (there will be three such points in the zodiac one of each star) Point 3. Noted down the antardasa in which you have won and in which you have lost. When Moon will transit through star and sub of these planets, you will get similar results. This knowledge can be used to gain even in bad dasa period. Point 4. If you got the horoscope, note down the significator of 6 and 11 for gaining, and 8 and 12 for losing. When Moon pass through star and sub of 6 and 11, one will make profit. When Moon pass through star and sub of 8 and 12, one will lose. Point 5. For timing an event, one should judge - a) we get dasa bhukti of selected significators for an event b) Jupiters transit of sensitive points formed by selected significator for the event tells year of fructification of the event. Sun's transit over such sensitive point will tell about month and Moon's transit will tell about the day. At the end of the article, there are suggestions on further reading which includes Ruling planets (Tw ji's point 8). Next article, " Promotion - When " in AstroSecrets (pp 147-155) shows practically about the application of sensitive points. I personally have better success of using sensitive points with RP and predicting minor events. I have seen that accuracy is comparatively lower when we use it on natal chart, e.g. for timing marriage. I hope discussion on this topic will give us some clues on timing major events using natal astrology. Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 10:45 AM, TW <tw853 wrote: Dear Friends,Without wasting time on this non-RP based Asc-Mo connection rule, not supported by hard evidence of practical charts from the published astrological literature, let us move on the issue of Sensitive Points as asked by a member. 1. The article on `Sensitive Point' in " Astrosecrets & KP, Part II, 2003, pp 141-146 is a compilation of references, like KP Reader V pp 161-163 (Old Edition 154-156), 189-192 (Old Edition 180-182), RP & KP, 1985, pp 85-89, Astrosecrets & KP, Part II, 2003, pp 86-105 etc. 2. Some old messages are generally grouped into three categories as follows: 1) Group 1/message/23093 /message/23102?threaded=1 & l=1/message/22989?threaded=1 & l=1 /message/22814?threaded=1 & l=1/message/22850?threaded=1 & l=1 /message/22654?threaded=1 & l=1/message/22654?threaded=1 & l=1 2) Group 2/message/29875?threaded=1 & l=1/message/29880 /message/298723) Group 3/message/4982?threaded=1 & l=1 /message/4973?threaded=1 & l=1/message/4954?threaded=1 & l=1 3. To start the ball roll, for the chosen DBA of fruitful significators for an event to materialize, say conjoined period of Sun, Venus, Mercury, then Sun sign, Venus star, Mercury sub; Venus sign, Sun star, Mercury sub, and Mercury sign, Sun star, Venus sub are the three sensitive and fruitful positions, which will be transited by Ascendant, Luminaries and the planets ruling the Dasa, Bhukti and Anthara. The sensitive positions when transited by the Ascendant degree, the exact hour and minute of the event can be told. If Moon is moved to that sensitive degree the day of the event can be arrived at. If the Sun, then month. If Jupiter then the year can be arrived at. (KP Reader V pp 161-163 <Old Edition 154-156>, Reader VI p 131, RP & KP p 69-72) 8. Fast or short predictions can be given just based on the Ruling Planets directly. A timing of an event can be fixed by using only the Ruling Planets calculated at a particular moment of time without resorting to the Natal or Horary chart as follows (KP Reader V pp 161-163 <Old Edition 154-156>, Reader VI p 131, RP & KP p 69-72): 1) If an event is likely to take place within a few hours, move the Ascendant counting from the Ascending degree of the moment of judgment to the sensitive zone where one ruling planet becomes the sign lord, second ruling planet becomes the star lord and third ruling planet become the sub lord; 2) If the event is expected to happen within some days, move the Moon to such a sensitive zone; or3) If it is to take place in some months, move the Sun; or4) If it is to happen in some years, Jupiter should be moved to find out the time of event. Contribution of members are requested.Thanks and regards,TW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Dear Punit ji, Thank you for your contribution. Let us wait for response from other members to prepare a compilation for practical application. Regards, TW , Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: > > Dear Tw ji and Friends, > > It looks like an excellent idea to discuss this topic. It is very important > topic for timing events. > > The " Sensitive Point " article talked about various points and I have noted > down as follows - > > Point 1. > If we have selected mahadasa and bhukti, During fuctification of the event, > Sun will either transit in > a) rasi of mahadasa lord and star of bhukti lord, OR > b) rasi of bhukti lord and star of mahadasa lord > > Point 2. (Suggested improvisation of Point 1) > As KP is stellar theory, one shoud ignore sign and focus on star and sub. So > improvisation of above Point no 1 can be, if we have selected mahadasa and > bhukti, at the time of fructification of event, Sun will transit in star of > mahadasa lord and sub of bhukti lord (there will be three such points in the > zodiac one of each star) > > Point 3. > Noted down the antardasa in which you have won and in which you have lost. > When Moon will transit through star and sub of these planets, you will get > similar results. This knowledge can be used to gain even in bad dasa period. > > > Point 4. > If you got the horoscope, note down the significator of 6 and 11 for > gaining, and 8 and 12 for losing. When Moon pass through star and sub of 6 > and 11, one will make profit. When Moon pass through star and sub of 8 and > 12, one will lose. > > Point 5. > For timing an event, one should judge - > a) we get dasa bhukti of selected significators for an event > b) Jupiters transit of sensitive points formed by selected significator for > the event tells year of fructification of the event. Sun's transit over such > sensitive point will tell about month and Moon's transit will tell about the > day. > > At the end of the article, there are suggestions on further reading which > includes Ruling planets (Tw ji's point 8). Next article, " Promotion - When " > in AstroSecrets (pp 147-155) shows practically about the application of > sensitive points. > > I personally have better success of using sensitive points with RP and > predicting minor events. I have seen that accuracy is comparatively lower > when we use it on natal chart, e.g. for timing marriage. I hope discussion > on this topic will give us some clues on timing major events using natal > astrology. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 10:45 AM, TW <tw853 wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Without wasting time on this non-RP based Asc-Mo connection rule, not > > supported by hard evidence of practical charts from the published > > astrological literature, let us move on the issue of Sensitive Points as > > asked by a member. > > > > 1. The article on `Sensitive Point' in " Astrosecrets & KP, Part II, 2003, > > pp 141-146 is a compilation of references, like KP Reader V pp 161-163 (Old > > Edition 154-156), 189-192 (Old Edition 180-182), RP & KP, 1985, pp 85-89, > > Astrosecrets & KP, Part II, 2003, pp 86-105 etc. > > > > 2. Some old messages are generally grouped into three categories as > > follows: > > > > 1) Group 1 > > /message/23093 > > /message/23102?threaded=1 & l=1 > > /message/22989?threaded=1 & l=1 > > /message/22814?threaded=1 & l=1 > > /message/22850?threaded=1 & l=1 > > /message/22654?threaded=1 & l=1 > > /message/22654?threaded=1 & l=1 > > > > 2) Group 2 > > /message/29875?threaded=1 & l=1 > > /message/29880 > > /message/29872 > > > > 3) Group 3 > > /message/4982?threaded=1 & l=1 > > /message/4973?threaded=1 & l=1 > > /message/4954?threaded=1 & l=1 > > > > 3. To start the ball roll, for the chosen DBA of fruitful significators for > > an event to materialize, say conjoined period of Sun, Venus, Mercury, then > > Sun sign, Venus star, Mercury sub; Venus sign, Sun star, Mercury sub, and > > Mercury sign, Sun star, Venus sub are the three sensitive and fruitful > > positions, which will be transited by Ascendant, Luminaries and the planets > > ruling the Dasa, Bhukti and Anthara. The sensitive positions when transited > > by the Ascendant degree, the exact hour and minute of the event can be told. > > If Moon is moved to that sensitive degree the day of the event can be > > arrived at. If the Sun, then month. If Jupiter then the year can be arrived > > at. (KP Reader V pp 161-163 <Old Edition 154-156>, Reader VI p 131, RP & KP > > p 69-72) > > > > 8. Fast or short predictions can be given just based on the Ruling Planets > > directly. A timing of an event can be fixed by using only the Ruling Planets > > calculated at a particular moment of time without resorting to the Natal or > > Horary chart as follows (KP Reader V pp 161-163 <Old Edition 154-156>, > > Reader VI p 131, RP & KP p 69-72): > > > > 1) If an event is likely to take place within a few hours, move the > > Ascendant counting from the Ascending degree of the moment of judgment to > > the sensitive zone where one ruling planet becomes the sign lord, second > > ruling planet becomes the star lord and third ruling planet become the sub > > lord; > > 2) If the event is expected to happen within some days, move the Moon to > > such a sensitive zone; or > > 3) If it is to take place in some months, move the Sun; or > > 4) If it is to happen in some years, Jupiter should be moved to find out > > the time of event. > > > > Contribution of members are requested. > > > > Thanks and regards, > > TW > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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