ruling planets - time and location consideration

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am not astrologer, but I am curious to learn few concepts about KP astrology. I didn't know whom/where to ask question. I am glad to have found this forum. Nowadays, its not uncommon to have astrologer and seeker to be in different cities. Thanks to internet, consultations have become convenient even if astrologer and seeker are in different cities. But this confuses me about certain things in KP system: Which location should be considered for calculating ruling planets: astrologer's or seeker's? What time should be considered for calculating ruling planets: 1: when seeker asks question?2: when astrologer reads question?3: when astrologer is doing/starting consultation? 3.1: wouldn't this be affected

by the appointment time, which is given by a astrologer?Thanks,Ninad.

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One should consider the location of the astrologer, where he sits for resolving the query. Time of RP should be taken the same as the time when the astrologer starts solving the query.

 

Regards. 

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Ninad Kale <drupal0 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 am not astrologer, but I am curious to learn few concepts about KP astrology. I didn't know whom/where to ask question. I am glad to have found this forum. 

 

Nowadays, its not uncommon to have astrologer and seeker to be in different cities. Thanks to internet, consultations have become convenient even if astrologer and seeker are in different cities. But this confuses me about certain things in KP system: 

 

Which location should be considered for calculating ruling planets: astrologer's or seeker's? 

What time should be considered for calculating ruling planets: 

1: when seeker asks question?

2: when astrologer reads question?

3: when astrologer is doing/starting consultation? 

3.1: wouldn't this be affected by the appointment time, which is given by a astrologer?

 

Thanks,

Ninad. 

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the reply everyone.So answer to seeker's question will change on which astrologer he/she goes (location) and availability of astrologer (appointment)? -Ninad.--- On Sun, 1/10/10, Satish korabu <satish.korabu wrote:Satish korabu <satish.korabuRe: ruling planets - time and location consideration Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 10:56 PM

 

 

One should consider the location of the astrologer, where he sits for resolving the query. Time of RP should be taken the same as the time when the astrologer starts solving the query.

 

Regards.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Ninad Kale <drupal0 > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

am not astrologer, but I am curious to learn few concepts about KP astrology. I didn't know whom/where to ask question. I am glad to have found this forum.

 

Nowadays, its not uncommon to have astrologer and seeker to be in different cities. Thanks to internet, consultations have become convenient even if astrologer and seeker are in different cities. But this confuses me about certain things in KP system:

 

Which location should be considered for calculating ruling planets: astrologer's or seeker's?

What time should be considered for calculating ruling planets:

1: when seeker asks question?

2: when astrologer reads question?

3: when astrologer is doing/starting consultation?

3.1: wouldn't this be affected by the appointment time, which is given by a astrologer?

 

Thanks,

Ninad.

[Guest guest]

Dear Sirs,

 

The astrologer wherever he is seated and whatever time he begins to

judge forms the basis for the Ruling Planets theory.

 

These will of course be affected by the appointment time given by the

astrologer BUT If there is urgency for a seeker to know about a

particular work-query-Problem, then whatever time the Astrologer gives

him for appointment, and when they face each other and begin the

analysis, will become the right and appropriate Muhurtha for the seeker

to gain access to the answers.

 

Again if the seeker is trying to check, or test the astrologer or is

oversmart, then he may not be successful in receiving the right answers

to his queries. Playing games is not the right use of astrology. One has

to be innocent in his dealings when going to an astrologer. If a seeker

deliberately chooses Sunday(Knowing little bit of astrology and about

Ruling planets theory)so that the Sun appears amongstthe Ruling Planets

and then questions the astrologer about some illness, asking whether he

will be cured, then he is bound to get wrong answers.

 

A honest seeker, a gnawing problem , is all that is required for one to

gain from the Ruling planets, irrespective of the time given by the

astrologer, or the locations of the astrologer.

 

Same theory works with those who put a BT problem to number of

astrologers simultaneously though they may be sitting in various

locations. One must not do this. One must seek one astrologer at a time,

and he will get the right inputs. Suppose he goes to another astrologer

after two years in another location who also wishes to check the BT then

this astrologer too will get the right inputs

through RP's.

 

But playing games, testing the apparatus of KP is not going to work.

 

Momentarily one may get success in predicting wins for Cricket matches

or hockey matches, but consistency in success is never going to remain

(Consistency means 7 predictions right out of 10 predictions coming from

the same astrologer in successive predictions.) Unless and until this

astrologer has personally put some good amount of money at stake in

betting in each of these matches, he will not get the consistency of

success required.

 

But then are we supposed to use astrology for making money through

betting or gambling ? I leave the answer for this question to the

readers.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

, Ninad Kale <drupal0 wrote:

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> am not astrologer, but I am curious to learn few concepts about KP

astrology. I didn't know whom/where to ask question. I am glad to have

found this forum.

> Nowadays, its not uncommon to have astrologer and seeker to be in

different cities. Thanks to internet, consultations have become

convenient even if astrologer and seeker are in different cities. But

this confuses me about certain things in KP system:

> Which location should be considered for calculating ruling planets:

astrologer's or seeker's? What time should be considered for calculating

ruling planets: 1: when seeker asks question?2: when astrologer reads

question?3: when astrologer is doing/starting consultation? 3.1:

wouldn't this be affected by the appointment time, which is given by a

astrologer?

> Thanks,Ninad.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Ninad:I believe the answer from astrologers should be more or less similar since we believe that astrology is an exact science. If the answers are different as RPs differ then some thing is wrong some where-most probably the astrologer is at fault and not astrology! thanks,regards,Vijay--- On Wed, 1/13/10, Ninad Kale <drupal0 wrote:Ninad Kale <drupal0Re: ruling planets - time and location consideration Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 2:31 AM

 

 

Thanks for the reply everyone.So answer to seeker's question will change on which astrologer he/she goes (location) and availability of astrologer (appointment) ? -Ninad.--- On Sun, 1/10/10, Satish korabu <satish.korabu@ gmail.com> wrote:Satish korabu <satish.korabu@ gmail.com>Re: ruling planets - time and location consideration@gro ups.comSunday, January 10, 2010, 10:56 PM

 

 

One should consider the location of the astrologer, where he sits for resolving the query. Time of RP should be taken the same as the time when the astrologer starts solving the query.

 

Regards.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Ninad Kale <drupal0 > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

am not astrologer, but I am curious to learn few concepts about KP astrology. I didn't know whom/where to ask question. I am glad to have found this forum.

 

Nowadays, its not uncommon to have astrologer and seeker to be in different cities. Thanks to internet, consultations have become convenient even if astrologer and seeker are in different cities. But this confuses me about certain things in KP system:

 

Which location should be considered for calculating ruling planets: astrologer's or seeker's?

What time should be considered for calculating ruling planets:

1: when seeker asks question?

2: when astrologer reads question?

3: when astrologer is doing/starting consultation?

3.1: wouldn't this be affected by the appointment time, which is given by a astrologer?

 

Thanks,

Ninad.

[Guest guest]

Yes, you've got the point that by common sense the result may not be the same

depending on time, space, astrologer and urge.

 

 

, Ninad Kale <drupal0 wrote:

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> Thanks for the reply everyone.

> So answer to seeker's question will change on which astrologer he/she goes

(location) and availability of astrologer (appointment)? 

> -Ninad.

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> --- On Sun, 1/10/10, Satish korabu <satish.korabu wrote:

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> Satish korabu <satish.korabu

> Re: ruling planets - time and location consideration

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One should consider the location of the astrologer, where he sits for

resolving the query. Time of RP should be taken the same as the time when

the astrologer starts solving the query.

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> Regards. 

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> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Ninad Kale <drupal0 > wrote:

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 am not astrologer, but I am curious to learn few concepts about KP

astrology. I didn't know whom/where to ask question. I am glad to have found

this forum. 

>

>

>

> Nowadays, its not uncommon to have astrologer and seeker to be in different

cities. Thanks to internet, consultations have become convenient even if

astrologer and seeker are in different cities. But this confuses me about

certain things in KP system: 

>

>

>

> Which location should be considered for calculating ruling planets:

astrologer's or seeker's? 

> What time should be considered for calculating ruling planets: 

> 1: when seeker asks question?

> 2: when astrologer reads question?

> 3: when astrologer is doing/starting consultation? 

> 3.1: wouldn't this be affected by the appointment time, which is given by a

astrologer?

>

>

> Thanks,

> Ninad. 

>

[Guest guest]

dear Vijay ji,

 

A good answer. If the answers are different, from astrologers making the same

study, at different locations , with a wide gap of time between the study of

each astrologer, and the seeker is honest and the urge is strong, then there is

no question why should the technical outputs be different.

 

Regards to predictive Outputs, these may differ, due to less knowledge of

astrologer or some wrong method of approach.

 

But in BTR there cannot be " more or less similiar " because here one cannot

change the star Lord or SubLord as per fancy and whims,so if the astrologers are

knowledgable, the seeker has a great urge, he is innocently seeking the inputs

and not testing or playing games, then there would be " Exact " inferences and NOT

" More or less " between two or three seperate astrologers .

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, Vijay Nellore <nellorev wrote:

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> Dear Ninad:

> I believe the answer from astrologers should be more or less similar since we

believe that astrology is an exact science. If the answers are different as RPs

differ then some thing is wrong some where-most probably the astrologer is at

fault and not astrology! thanks,regards,

> Vijay

>

> --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Ninad Kale <drupal0 wrote:

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> Ninad Kale <drupal0

> Re: ruling planets - time and location consideration

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Thanks for the reply everyone.

> So answer to seeker's question will change on which astrologer he/she goes

(location) and availability of astrologer (appointment) ? 

> -Ninad.

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> --- On Sun, 1/10/10, Satish korabu <satish.korabu@ gmail.com> wrote:

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> Satish korabu <satish.korabu@ gmail.com>

> Re: ruling planets - time and location consideration

> @gro ups.com

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One should consider the location of the astrologer, where he sits for

resolving the query. Time of RP should be taken the same as the time when

the astrologer starts solving the query.

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> Regards. 

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> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Ninad Kale <drupal0 > wrote:

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 am not astrologer, but I am curious to learn few concepts about KP

astrology. I didn't know whom/where to ask question. I am glad to have found

this forum. 

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>

>

> Nowadays, its not uncommon to have astrologer and seeker to be in different

cities. Thanks to internet, consultations have become convenient even if

astrologer and seeker are in different cities. But this confuses me about

certain things in KP system: 

>

>

>

> Which location should be considered for calculating ruling planets:

astrologer's or seeker's? 

> What time should be considered for calculating ruling planets: 

> 1: when seeker asks question?

> 2: when astrologer reads question?

> 3: when astrologer is doing/starting consultation? 

> 3.1: wouldn't this be affected by the appointment time, which is given by a

astrologer?

>

>

> Thanks,

> Ninad. 

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I agree with the last part. People often mistake between 'astrology' and 'astrologer'. --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Vijay Nellore <nellorev wrote:Vijay Nellore <nellorevRe: ruling planets - time and location consideration Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:52 AM

 

 

Dear Ninad:I believe the answer from astrologers should be more or less similar since we believe that astrology is an exact science. If the answers are different as RPs differ then some thing is wrong some where-most probably the astrologer is at fault and not astrology! thanks,regards,Vijay--- On Wed, 1/13/10, Ninad Kale <drupal0 > wrote:Ninad Kale <drupal0 >Re: ruling planets - time and location consideration@gro ups.comWednesday, January 13, 2010, 2:31 AM

 

 

Thanks for the reply everyone.So answer to seeker's question will change on which astrologer he/she goes (location) and availability of astrologer (appointment) ? -Ninad.--- On Sun, 1/10/10, Satish korabu <satish.korabu@ gmail.com> wrote:Satish korabu <satish.korabu@ gmail.com>Re: ruling planets - time and location consideration@gro ups.comSunday, January 10, 2010, 10:56 PM

 

 

One should consider the location of the astrologer, where he sits for resolving the query. Time of RP should be taken the same as the time when the astrologer starts solving the query.

 

Regards.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Ninad Kale <drupal0 > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

am not astrologer, but I am curious to learn few concepts about KP astrology. I didn't know whom/where to ask question. I am glad to have found this forum.

 

Nowadays, its not uncommon to have astrologer and seeker to be in different cities. Thanks to internet, consultations have become convenient even if astrologer and seeker are in different cities. But this confuses me about certain things in KP system:

 

Which location should be considered for calculating ruling planets: astrologer's or seeker's?

What time should be considered for calculating ruling planets:

1: when seeker asks question?

2: when astrologer reads question?

3: when astrologer is doing/starting consultation?

3.1: wouldn't this be affected by the appointment time, which is given by a astrologer?

 

Thanks,

Ninad.

[Guest guest]

I agree with what Vijay-ji said. Bhaskar, wouldn't astrologer know whether seeker is asking genuine question or testing astrologer/playing game from ruling planets at astrologer's location? :)I believe there must be some rule for this ruling planets calculation. It seems like most of the people replied agree on -take rulings planets at the astrologer's location during consultation time. Thanks,Ninad.--- On Thu, 1/14/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: ruling planets - time and location considerationTo:

Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 12:25 AM

 

 

dear Vijay ji,

 

A good answer. If the answers are different, from astrologers making the same study, at different locations , with a wide gap of time between the study of each astrologer, and the seeker is honest and the urge is strong, then there is no question why should the technical outputs be different.

 

Regards to predictive Outputs, these may differ, due to less knowledge of astrologer or some wrong method of approach.

 

But in BTR there cannot be "more or less similiar " because here one cannot change the star Lord or SubLord as per fancy and whims,so if the astrologers are knowledgable, the seeker has a great urge, he is innocently seeking the inputs and not testing or playing games, then there would be "Exact" inferences and NOT "More or less" between two or three seperate astrologers .

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

@gro ups.com, Vijay Nellore <nellorev@.. .> wrote:

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> Dear Ninad:

> I believe the answer from astrologers should be more or less similar since we believe that astrology is an exact science. If the answers are different as RPs differ then some thing is wrong some where-most probably the astrologer is at fault and not astrology! thanks,regards,

> Vijay

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> --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Ninad Kale <drupal0 > wrote:

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> Ninad Kale <drupal0 >

> Re: ruling planets - time and location consideration

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dear sir, if moon position or LAGNA position is analysed it doesnot agree with the query put,the question is not genuine. thanks & regardsshrikantjinNinad Kale <drupal0 Sent: Thu, 14

January, 2010 12:30:51 PMRe: Re: ruling planets - time and location consideration

 

 

I agree with what Vijay-ji said. Bhaskar, wouldn't astrologer know whether seeker is asking genuine question or testing astrologer/playing game from ruling planets at astrologer's location? :)I believe there must be some rule for this ruling planets calculation. It seems like most of the people replied agree on -take rulings planets at the astrologer's location during consultation time. Thanks,Ninad.--- On Thu, 1/14/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> Re: ruling planets - time and location considerationTo:

@gro ups.comThursday, January 14, 2010, 12:25 AM

 

 

dear Vijay ji,

 

A good answer. If the answers are different, from astrologers making the same study, at different locations , with a wide gap of time between the study of each astrologer, and the seeker is honest and the urge is strong, then there is no question why should the technical outputs be different.

 

Regards to predictive Outputs, these may differ, due to less knowledge of astrologer or some wrong method of approach.

 

But in BTR there cannot be "more or less similiar " because here one cannot change the star Lord or SubLord as per fancy and whims,so if the astrologers are knowledgable, the seeker has a great urge, he is innocently seeking the inputs and not testing or playing games, then there would be "Exact" inferences and NOT "More or less" between two or three seperate astrologers .

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

@gro ups.com, Vijay Nellore <nellorev@.. .> wrote:

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> Dear Ninad:

> I believe the answer from astrologers should be more or less similar since we believe that astrology is an exact science. If the answers are different as RPs differ then some thing is wrong some where-most probably the astrologer is at fault and not astrology! thanks,regards,

> Vijay

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> --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Ninad Kale <drupal0 > wrote:

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> Ninad Kale <drupal0 >

> Re: ruling planets - time and location consideration

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> --- On Sun, 1/10/10, Satish korabu <satish.korabu@ gmail.com> wrote:

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> Satish korabu <satish.korabu@ gmail.com>

> Re: ruling planets - time and location consideration

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> What time should be considered for calculating ruling planets:Â

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dear ninad ji,

 

But i am also proposing the same stance, that the Ruling planets are to be taken

at the time and place where the astrologer is seated and making judgement. i do

not disagree to this proposition.

 

Astrologer will come to know whether the seeker is playing games or not. But

this is not the actual work of the astrologer. If an astrologer is giving 5-10

appointments in a day, it is understood normally that people who are coming to

meet him and paying Fees, are genuine seekers. In case an astrologer is not

doing this professionally, still he can apply the rules of checking the

genuinity, but an astrologer must be expected to use his brains and energies for

solving problems, and not whether people coming to him are coming with pure

intentions or not. It is understood that a person is going to temple to meet God

and have His darshans, and not to eye the beautiful female devotees visiting the

temple.

 

The onus of being true lies on the seeker and not on the Astrologer (vis a vis

the seekers intentions). It is understood that when a person visits a doctor and

tells him that he has a stomache pain, the doctor believes him and suggests him

a 3 to 5 day course, and will not immediately jump to take a Sonography

report... same way is the astrologer.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, Ninad Kale <drupal0 wrote:

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> I agree with what Vijay-ji said. 

> Bhaskar, wouldn't astrologer know whether seeker is asking genuine question or

testing astrologer/playing game from ruling planets at astrologer's location?

> I believe there must be some rule for this ruling planets calculation. It

seems like most of the people replied agree on -take rulings planets at the

astrologer's location during consultation time. 

> Thanks,Ninad.

>

> --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

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> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

> Re: ruling planets - time and location consideration

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> Thursday, January 14, 2010, 12:25 AM

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dear Vijay ji,

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> A good answer. If the answers are different, from astrologers making the same

study, at different locations , with a wide gap of time between the study of

each astrologer, and the seeker is honest and the urge is strong, then there is

no question why should the technical outputs be different.

>

>

>

> Regards to predictive Outputs, these may differ, due to less knowledge of

astrologer or some wrong method of approach.

>

>

>

> But in BTR there cannot be " more or less similiar " because here one cannot

change the star Lord or SubLord as per fancy and whims,so if the astrologers are

knowledgable, the seeker has a great urge, he is innocently seeking the inputs

and not testing or playing games, then there would be " Exact " inferences and NOT

" More or less " between two or three seperate astrologers .

>

>

>

> regards,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> @gro ups.com, Vijay Nellore <nellorev@ .> wrote:

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> >

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> > Dear Ninad:

>

> > I believe the answer from astrologers should be more or less similar since

we believe that astrology is an exact science. If the answers are different as

RPs differ then some thing is wrong some where-most probably the astrologer is

at fault and not astrology! thanks,regards,

>

> > Vijay

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> > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Ninad Kale <drupal0@ > wrote:

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[Guest guest]

Dear Friend,

 

I agree with Bhaskar's view point. There is a way out, if the Prashna chart cast at the time of query,indicates malefics in lagna, eg Sat Rahu,Ketu and Merc, you may suspect the intentions.Lagna indicates the client.You can then decide the course of action.

 

If you are commercial astrologer, these need not come into consideration.

 

Regards,

 

Satish

--- On Fri, 1/15/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: ruling planets - time and location consideration Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 2:19 PM

dear ninad ji,But i am also proposing the same stance, that the Ruling planets are to be taken at the time and place where the astrologer is seated and making judgement. i do not disagree to this proposition.Astrologer will come to know whether the seeker is playing games or not. But this is not the actual work of the astrologer. If an astrologer is giving 5-10 appointments in a day, it is understood normally that people who are coming to meet him and paying Fees, are genuine seekers. In case an astrologer is not doing this professionally, still he can apply the rules of checking the genuinity, but an astrologer must be expected to use his brains and energies for solving problems, and not whether people coming to him are coming with pure intentions or not. It is understood that a person is going to temple to meet God and have His darshans, and not to eye the beautiful female devotees visiting the temple.The onus of being true

lies on the seeker and not on the Astrologer (vis a vis the seekers intentions). It is understood that when a person visits a doctor and tells him that he has a stomache pain, the doctor believes him and suggests him a 3 to 5 day course, and will not immediately jump to take a Sonography report... same way is the astrologer.best wishes,Bhaskar. @gro ups.com, Ninad Kale <drupal0 > wrote:>> > I agree with what Vijay-ji said. > Bhaskar, wouldn't astrologer know whether seeker is asking genuine question or testing astrologer/playing game from ruling planets at astrologer's location? > I believe there must be some rule for this ruling planets calculation. It seems like most of the people replied agree on

-take rulings planets at the astrologer's location during consultation time. > Thanks,Ninad.> > --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> Re: ruling planets - time and location consideration> @gro ups.com> Thursday, January 14, 2010, 12:25 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > dear Vijay ji,> > > > A good answer. If the answers are different, from astrologers making the same

study, at different locations , with a wide gap of time between the study of each astrologer, and the seeker is honest and the urge is strong, then there is no question why should the technical outputs be different.> > > > Regards to predictive Outputs, these may differ, due to less knowledge of astrologer or some wrong method of approach.> > > > But in BTR there cannot be "more or less similiar " because here one cannot change the star Lord or SubLord as per fancy and whims,so if the astrologers are knowledgable, the seeker has a great urge, he is innocently seeking the inputs and not testing or playing games, then there would be "Exact" inferences and NOT "More or less" between two or three seperate astrologers .> > > > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > @gro ups.com, Vijay Nellore <nellorev@ .>

wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ninad:> > > I believe the answer from astrologers should be more or less similar since we believe that astrology is an exact science. If the answers are different as RPs differ then some thing is wrong some where-most probably the astrologer is at fault and not astrology! thanks,regards,> > > Vijay> > > > > > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Ninad Kale <drupal0@ > wrote:> > > > > > Ninad Kale <drupal0@ >> > > Re: ruling planets - time and location consideration> > > @gro ups.com> > > Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 2:31 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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com> wrote:> > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  am not astrologer, but I am curious to learn few concepts about KP astrology. I didn't know whom/where to ask question. I am glad to have found this forum. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nowadays, its not uncommon to have astrologer and seeker to be in different cities. Thanks to internet, consultations have become convenient even if astrologer and seeker are in different cities. But this confuses me about certain things in KP system: > > > > > > > > > > > > Which location should be

considered for calculating ruling planets: astrologer's or seeker's? > > > What time should be considered for calculating ruling planets: > > > 1: when seeker asks question?> > > 2: when astrologer reads question?> > > 3: when astrologer is doing/starting consultation? > > > 3.1: wouldn't this be affected by the appointment time, which is given by a astrologer?> > > > > > > > > Thanks,> > > Ninad. > > >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Ninad,

I think no answer to your question has appeared in the message box. Hence this one. Foe horary and Ruling planets calculations should be done for the longitude and latitude where the astrologer sits for judgment. The time should be the time followed in that zone.. In India it should be Indian standard Time.

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

Ninad Kale <drupal0 Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 9:42:12 AM ruling planets - time and location consideration

 

 

 

 

 

am not astrologer, but I am curious to learn few concepts about KP astrology. I didn't know whom/where to ask question. I am glad to have found this forum.

 

Nowadays, its not uncommon to have astrologer and seeker to be in different cities. Thanks to internet, consultations have become convenient even if astrologer and seeker are in different cities. But this confuses me about certain things in KP system:

 

Which location should be considered for calculating ruling planets: astrologer's or seeker's?

What time should be considered for calculating ruling planets:

1: when seeker asks question?

2: when astrologer reads question?

3: when astrologer is doing/starting consultation?

3.1: wouldn't this be affected by the appointment time, which is given by a astrologer?

 

Thanks,

Ninad.