Guest guest Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 dear friends, 2010 year is interesting year,moon eclipse on 1st january & solar eclipse on 15th january.last year also same way two eclipses,can honourable members comment on this? thanks & regards GOODLUCKshrikantjin j shrikant <shrikantjin Cc: TW <tw853; punit pandey <punitpMon, 4 January, 2010 11:50:10 AMRe: Re: What is the correct birth time? dear sir, you can select the name according to kp astrology.lucky names for which purpose is required. i am submitting effect of the alphabets signified by varrious cuspal lords.all planets are assigned some alphabets.you can find them in any almancs(panchang) . if the first alphabet in a name is signified by the ascendent sublord, the selfconfidance of the individual will be high.he will be undounted in the face of difficulties in life & will have acommanding presence. The persons appearance will earn him respect from others regardless of status in life. If the first alphabet in a name is the one signified by the moon he will be imaginitive and sensitive.he will have sudden flights of fancy.the vibration is excellant for writers & other creative people.The downside of this is that the person will have great difficulty in coming to decisions as he has two-pronged mind that runs in an often impracticable & fanciful manner rather than logical manner. If the first alphabet in a name is signified by the sublord of 3rd cusp, the native will enjoy success in public relations fields.this ensures fact that progress in life if person is involved in transport,news sevice,courier service etc. If the first alphabet in name is signified by the sublord of fifth cusp or the forturne,the person will be very lucky in life & will be able to attract goodwill of everyone. if the first alphabet in a name is signified by the sublord of 9th cusp,he will have good success in higher education,will be able to attain success in religious persuits & enjoy devine grace. if the first alphabet in a name is signified by the sublord of 10th cusp,it can give good success inprofessional life of the individual. the person concerned will bevery duty concious & career oriented in life. if the first alphabet in a name is signified by the sublord of 11th cusp, it can give good gain & friendship with large number of persons. care should be taken to avoid the syllables/alphabet signified by the sublord of the 6th,8th & 12th houses.unless there are other exceptions-like they also signify 5th house,fortuna or other auspicious points in the horoscope. wish you GOODLUCK shrikantjin@ .co. in. Larrons Antony Raj <larrons_ars@ .in>@gro ups.comTue, 29 December, 2009 6:39:09 PMRe: Re: What is the correct birth time? Dear members is there any thing called lucky name in kp initally i thought it (name no.) should signify the improving houses also it should not signify 6,8,12h should it signify 11h pls clarifylarrons Senthil <athi_ram >@gro ups.comTue, 29 December, 2009 5:59:23 AMRe: Re: What is the correct birth time? Dear Members, The RULE, "Natal Asc Sub = Natal MOON Star & Natal Asc Sub-Sub = Natal MOON Sub" Can’t be considered as RULE at all. Hence whether you apply the above rule for few seconds or few minutes all are WRONG ONLY. When there is NO LOGIC in the RULE then there is no point in saying different ayanamsas etc here to justify the RULE. It is simply a USLESS RULE ONLY. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil --- On Mon, 12/28/09, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote: Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>Re: Re: What is the correct birth time?@gro ups.comMonday, December 28, 2009, 6:54 AM Dear Sir,The above rule may be accepted as true if by shifting recorded birth time for few seconds(in exceptional cases up to 3 minutes) only we can apply the above rule.Besides this the different astrologers will have to change the recorded/rectified birth time further for different ayanamsas. With thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>@gro ups.comSun, December 27, 2009 11:49:45 AM Re: What is the correct birth time? Asc-Moon connection may be right or wrong way God Knows this. But trying to find this connection at times shifts the birth time to half an hour on either sides of recorded time. In this case when the Querist who has come with his horoscope, if told this possibility, then he will look at us as if we have come out of some mad house, because he is not ready to listen that his recorded birth time can be so awfully off the mark. Especially I tried this once on a case where I did not know that the natives father is himself an astrologer and had made perfect recording of the birth time of this native who had come to me. Thank God before I pronounced my verdict, he told me this fact, and I kept quiet otherwise I would have lost face that day, had I told him that Your asc and Moon is not having any StarLord or SubLord connection so I have to shift the time to 30 minutes ahead to make them connect. Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> Already the Astrologers are a very respected lot in society, and you will bring more respect on them with this excersise ?> > Now astrologers will sit in front of delivery rooms and then note the time of cry every time the expectant mother is taken to the delivery room ? Is this the state we have been brought down to,as being suggested ? Good.> > Then what is the point of discussion of rectification methods and such topics, if only the first cry is going to constitute the time of Birth, then who has checked our cry and the cries of rest of us ? And what is the sense of doing astrology if this is the way we are going to go about checking matters ? This means that we must do all physical checking before pronouncing whether a mother will have child or not, we must ask her to get medical reports of her having got impregnated and become pregnant ? Why? What is the astrologer for ? This means we must check for a girl who is asking whether she will have love marriage or not- every evening go where she goes, whom she meets, how much love is there between her and the boy, before pronouncing LOve marriage to her ? Then what is the astrologer doing astrology for ?> > Why does a good astrologer need external help for all this ? Why cant the study be so good that one does not need all this parepharnalia to predict ? > > If you are told the time of the first cry, only then you will be able to predict in detail about that child? Otherwise not ? What type of astrology are we into ?> > And after having known the time of the first cry, do You think whatever you predict will be right ?> > Boss this is not astrology. An astrologer needs to speak to no one. He must be efficient enough to get the answers on his own by his power of discriminations and his Panchanga, Pen and paper. > > Bhaskar.> > > > @gro ups.com, "Suprakash Ghosh" <suprakash.ghosh@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Punitji> > > > Collection of reliable birth data : we need to have connection with nursing homes / docs and have to volunteer to get the the actual time of first cry.> > > > As per my understanding, two planets A & B are connected if :> > > > a) A in star of B and B in star of A> > b) A in sub of B and B in sub of A> > c) A in sign of B and B in sign of A > > c-1)A in sign of B and B in sign of A in navamsa> > d) A conj B (3 deg 20min, 5 deg for moon.merc)> > e) If A and B are not with in the specified orb, if a third planet C is inbetween and each one of A & B maintains a gap of mentioned orb with C> > f) A aspect B (vedic, with specified orb)> > g)B aspect A (vedic, with specified orb)> > h) A aspect B (Western, Trine Sextile and semisextile ,with specified orb)> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > > > - > > Punit Pandey > > @gro ups.com > > Sunday, December 20, 2009 3:32 PM> > Re: What is the correct birth time?> > > > > > > > > > Dear Suprakash ji,> > > > AAA is the best we have available with us. If you have any alternate and better method for verification, it is welcome. Please let us know how you want to do it?> > > > > > > > > > Also, if you want to test indirect connection between Asc and Moon, please suggest how you want to define connection? Once we have this definition of connection, we can again try verifying Asc-Moon connection method with your suggestions incorporated. > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > Punit Pandey> > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Punit ji> > > > Since the study was conducted long a go, can you please let us know the basic conditions assumed during the test.> > Was the test conducted one at a time or all together? What was the genuinity of the birth time? AAA rating is not all.Have all the charts been analysed individually? Astrology is not mathematics. What I mean to say is that, suppose a particular chart has no no connection apparently between moon star and asc sub. but in the chat, they have exchanged stars or in rapt conjunction. Was all the charts analysed in this way? > > > > If not, then the test has no relevance.> > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > > > - > > Punit Pandey > > @gro ups.com > > Friday, December 18, 2009 10:56 AM> > Re: What is the correct birth time?> > > > > > > > > > Dear Suresh ji,> > > > Please see your post (http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 30047). I quote -> > > > 1. "In actual practice only method suggested by Lajmiji is practicable as well as logical."> > 2. "Suggesting further research in this matter is like re-inventing the wheel."> > 3. "When KP stalwarts have recommended a particular method as best suited and giving correct results, to disbelieve that and insist further research on the subject is surprising."> > > > Lajmi ji recommends Asc-Moon connection method "most often" and the study found that the method doesn't work. Please see the file section and you can get the study. Stalwarts were advocating it fiercely but what study found is just opposite. The method doesn't work. That is the reason I say that we should not "blindly" follow even Stalwarts. Your opinion (point no. 3 above) is just opposite and you recommend following them "blindly" which also means following incorrect methods. > > > > What we are doing is not further research but merely verification of available methods. People who are marketing their methods for a long time, now fearing and resisting because it will expose those methods. It may not be in interest of those individuals but it is definitely in interest of KP. Instead of appreciating this verification process and participating in it, I wounder why people are trying to divert attention and making forum loose focus. This is first exercise of this scale and we all must participate in it and make it successful. At the end of this exercise, we will know which methods work and which doesn't. Finally the KP will win. > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > Punit Pandey> > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:52 PM, suresh <hattangadi_ suresh@> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Punitji,> > I have not asked you to follow anything blindly.You have obviously not read full comment where I have said you can test this method for results.But again obviously my comment has touched a raw nerve.Lajmiji, s forty years experience in KP notwithstanding you seem to question value of his experience.My only point is research done in so many directions may not be conclusive.Apart from this same set of data will be interpreted differently by different people as will be evident if you have read subsequent post. > > Suresh Hattangadi> >> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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