Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Dear Yogesh ji,  So what this native should be according to you based on your principle.. lakhpati, millionnare,or a crorepati or a zillionaire??? Thanks & Regards, Sonali On Behalf Of Yogesh Friday, January 15, 2010 12:36 PM Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET Dears Sonali and Bhaskarji, The houses II,VI & XI stand for gaining and accumulating wealth...but whether a native is destined to become a lakhpati, millionnare,or a crorepati or a zillionnaire is decided by the s/l of the Lagna,according to his/her past Karma... That is my humble opinion... Yogesh Lajmi. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > I am sorry. But what type of KP are we doing.. > If any planet gives money or shows money or wealth creations like in this case Venus .. > Ve 6,11 Sun 5,3 Moon 10,1,2 > Venus is clearly to give wealth, but how can one expect venus to give money all of 20 years ? Would the antardasha Lords go to sleep till then ? > > But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house.. > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ? > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > , Naresh Valecha <superstaar_n_v@> wrote: > > > > Hi Sonali, I took up the details that were put up by you and rectified the birth time accordingly.You did not mention the time of birth which has been originally recorded before correcting it. Although RP's at the time of judgement give you a clear picture of birth lagna I would like to know what time has been originally recorded before rectification was done by you. > >  > > Naresh Valecha > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@> wrote: > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@> > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 11:55 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nareshji, > >  > > If you wish, I can provide you date wise incidents in native’s life to cross check whether rectified TOB is correct or not. > >  > > > > Thanks & Regards, > >  Sonali > >  > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:16 AM > > @gro ups.com > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > >  > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali, Sincerely I could not understand the table and as per your table and calculations I could not follow how Venus is an Important planet during its own Dasa.Venus if you see is in the sixth house and also it is in 6-8 relation with respect to its own house, i.e if we count 2 as lagna Venus falls in the eighth, besides it is also the sixth and twelveth cuspal sublord, again it is in the star of Sun lord of 2 with Mars lord of 10th and 5. Venus is in the sub of moon afflicted by Saturn and Ketu too, Moon-ketu being together in the tenth. Note the strenght of Moon too its only 02-28 in Aries. Afflicted and weak moon in no way can give the native a good Venus Dasa.This is KP. > > > > Now coming to the traditional astrological part. Aries Sade-Sati (7 -1/2 yrs of Saturn) started from feb.1996-2003. When the 10th house is posited with moon and is afflicted by malefics Sani and Ketu. During Sade-Sati 7-1/2yrs of Saturns transit the native has to struggle much through the houses signified by Saturn and Moon if they are not connected with favourably. How could Venus be a chief important planet, Venus in the Sub of afflicted Moon and under the sway of Saturn's transit from 1996-2003. > > > >  > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > @gro ups.com > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 8:20 PM > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Valechaji, > >  > > Thnx for your analysis. > >  > > But if your analysis is considered as correct , how ve is coming as most imp money yielding planet as evident from the table: > > So the basic question remains unanswered. > > Thus either TOB is uncorrect or at 20.51.48,ve must come as most imp money yielding planet so as to tally with actual incidents. > > & if same is most imp money yielding planet, why it failed to yield the same during its full mahadasha of 20 yrs itself. > >  > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > >  SIGN LRD > > > >  STR LRD > > > >  SUB > > > >  TOTAL > > > >  % > > > >  RANK > > > > > > SU > > > >                              2.04 > > > >          7.05 > > > >             2.04 > > > >       11.14 > > > >             4 > > > >             8 > > > > > > MO > > > >                                   -  > > > >       19.01 > > > >  > > > >       19.01 > > > >             6 > > > >             7 > > > > > > MA > > > >                            20.03 > > > >       28.15 > > > >  > > > >       48.18 > > > >           16 > > > >             3 > > > > > > ME > > > >                            31.76 > > > >          9.38 > > > >             2.04 > > > >       43.19 > > > >           14 > > > >             4 > > > > > > JU > > > >                            14.85 > > > >          2.60 > > > >           15.64 > > > >       33.09 > > > >           11 > > > >             5 > > > > > > VE > > > >                            23.01 > > > >       18.45 > > > >           22.45 > > > >       63.91 > > > >           21 > > > >             1 > > > > > > SA > > > >                              8.30 > > > >  > > > >             0.56 > > > >          8.86 > > > >             3 > > > >             9 > > > > > > RA > > > >  > > > >       11.73 > > > >           39.56 > > > >       51.29 > > > >           17 > > > >             2 > > > > > > KE > > > >  > > > >          3.63 > > > >           17.70 > > > >       21.33 > > > >             7 > > > >             6 > > > > > > TOTAL > > > >                         100.00 > > > >     100.00 > > > >         100.00 > > > >     300.00 > > > >   100.00 > > > >  > >  > >  > >  > > > > Thanks & Regards, > >  Sonali > >  > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:56 PM > > @gro ups.com > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > >  > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali, the time rectified is nearly correct except as I found the SSL Sun instead of Venus giving me a time as 20.52.30. ruling planets taken on 12/01/2010; 07-11am; Ambernath. The rectified lagna as per my verification should be Moon-Guru-Rahu- Sun. The main question is what is the important planet.? if we analyse Venus dasa on the whole Venus being lord of 4 and 11, posited in the Sixth with Mercury the lord of 3,12 it would not give good results being in the sixth. The period from 1995 end(Saturn bhukti) would mark the start of hurdles. In short during Venus Dasa the native had to struggle. Sun-Sun, Sun-Moon, Sun Mars could not yield much.Sun dasa promises good results partially during Sun-Rahu & Jupiter bhukti only. Sun-Sat dasa would not prove beneficial, Sun-Ketu, Sun-Ven would be fair enough, Now the question arises why the emphasis on Sun Dasa -Rahu & Jupiter Bhukti gave good results because in the year 2004 Jupiter was transiting in > > Leo second house of the native and all the stars in Leo gave sucess with Education, career and status. In Short Dasa-Bhukti- Antara lords prove fruitful during their transits in favourable houses viz. 1,2,3,6,10,11. > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > --- On Mon, 11/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > @gro ups.com > > Monday, 11 January, 2010, 9:24 PM > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear TWji, > >  > > Note: plz read dob as 2-12-1976 > >  > > Then what according to you, should be the correct TOB ( for the same horo lajmiji has corrected TOB as 20.20) > > But , based on this TOB, 5th sub is Sa & as per KP,if sub of 5th is sig of 8/12 houses,native will have losses from Stock market. > > While actually, native is having profit from stock market although not very substantial or in the manner expected by native. > > Thus, tob of 20.20 does not hold true based on income from stock market. > > Can you/anyone else correct above tob, given the fact that calendar year 2004 was the best year so far in native’s life(from education,career, financial point of view) > >  > > > > Thanks & Regards, > >  Sonali > >  > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of TW > > Monday, January 11, 2010 7:14 PM > > @gro ups.com > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > >  > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > 1. Dob: 02 dec 176? 1976? > > If 1976 and consequently Asc Cn 02:49:05 (KPNA 23:26:41), there is no way to get money in Sun Dasa*, and so the rectified TOB is not tallied with live event. > > *Su(5,3); in star and sub Me(5,4-12). > > 2. There is also no way to calculate such figures for planet. > > In KP, significators are ranked by order of A,B,C,D & E decided by sub signification, taking into account of whether having no planet in their stars or own star or own sub, RPS (if applied) on case by case basis etc. > > Regards, > > TW > > > > @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All Respected Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > In case of a person with birth details as under: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dob: 02 dec 176 > > > > > > Tob 20.51.48( as corrected with RP method) > > > > > > Place Shujalpur(M. P.) > > > > > > Sex Male > > > > > > > > > > > > Various Most imp money incidents are observed : > > > > > > > > > > > > This tables shows how much each of the planet has contributed as > > > Sign/str/sub lord as RP (Lagn & mon position) at the most close time of > > > incident: > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > SIGN LRD > > > > > > STR LRD > > > > > > SUB > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > % > > > > > > RANK > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > 7.05 > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > 11.14 > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > > - > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > > 20.03 > > > > > > 28.15 > > > > > > > > > > > > 48.18 > > > > > > 16 > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > > 31.76 > > > > > > 9.38 > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > 43.19 > > > > > > 14 > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > > 14.85 > > > > > > 2.60 > > > > > > 15.64 > > > > > > 33.09 > > > > > > 11 > > > > > > 5 > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > 23.01 > > > > > > 18.45 > > > > > > 22.45 > > > > > > 63.91 > > > > > > 21 > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > 8.30 > > > > > > > > > > > > 0.56 > > > > > > 8.86 > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.73 > > > > > > 39.56 > > > > > > 51.29 > > > > > > 17 > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.63 > > > > > > 17.70 > > > > > > 21.33 > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > 300.00 > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From above, it appears that, ve is the most imp money giving planet.But > > > above money incidents occurred after passing of Full mahadasha of ve of 20 > > > years. > > > > > > I.e.above incidents occurred during Su mahadasha. > > > > > > If ve is supposed to be the most imp money giving planet(as appeared from > > > above table), why it failed to yield any such results during its Mahadasha > > > itself. > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 dear yogeshji, i also agree with you.everything depends upon past karma.whether one will receivea spoon or mug or bucket or barrel depends upon lagna sublord strength.if lagna is powerful than only other houses help you to gain success in whatever matter they stand. thanks & regaedsshrikantjinYogesh <yogeshlajmi Sent: Thu, 14 January, 2010 11:06:03 PM Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET Dears Sonali and Bhaskarji, The houses II,VI & XI stand for gaining and accumulating wealth...but whether a native is destined to become a lakhpati, millionnare, or a crorepati or a zillionnaire is decided by the s/l of the Lagna,according to his/her past Karma... That is my humble opinion... Yogesh Lajmi. @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > I am sorry. But what type of KP are we doing.. > If any planet gives money or shows money or wealth creations like in this case Venus .. > Ve 6,11 Sun 5,3 Moon 10,1,2 > Venus is clearly to give wealth, but how can one expect venus to give money all of 20 years ? Would the antardasha Lords go to sleep till then ? > > But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house.. > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ? > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > @gro ups.com, Naresh Valecha <superstaar_ n_v@> wrote: > > > > Hi Sonali, I took up the details that were put up by you and rectified the birth time accordingly. You did not mention the time of birth which has been originally recorded before correcting it. Although RP's at the time of judgement give you a clear picture of birth lagna I would like to know what time has been originally recorded before rectification was done by you. > >  > > Naresh Valecha > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ > wrote: > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > @gro ups.com > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 11:55 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nareshji, > >  > > If you wish, I can provide you date wise incidents in native’s life to cross check whether rectified TOB is correct or not. > >  > > > > Thanks & Regards, > >  Sonali > >  > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:16 AM > > @gro ups.com > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > >  > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali, Sincerely I could not understand the table and as per your table and calculations I could not follow how Venus is an Important planet during its own Dasa.Venus if you see is in the sixth house and also it is in 6-8 relation with respect to its own house, i.e if we count 2 as lagna Venus falls in the eighth, besides it is also the sixth and twelveth cuspal sublord, again it is in the star of Sun lord of 2 with Mars lord of 10th and 5. Venus is in the sub of moon afflicted by Saturn and Ketu too, Moon-ketu being together in the tenth. Note the strenght of Moon too its only 02-28 in Aries. Afflicted and weak moon in no way can give the native a good Venus Dasa.This is KP. > > > > Now coming to the traditional astrological part. Aries Sade-Sati (7 -1/2 yrs of Saturn) started from feb.1996-2003. When the 10th house is posited with moon and is afflicted by malefics Sani and Ketu. During Sade-Sati 7-1/2yrs of Saturns transit the native has to struggle much through the houses signified by Saturn and Moon if they are not connected with favourably. How could Venus be a chief important planet, Venus in the Sub of afflicted Moon and under the sway of Saturn's transit from 1996-2003. > > > >  > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > @gro ups.com > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 8:20 PM > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Valechaji, > >  > > Thnx for your analysis. > >  > > But if your analysis is considered as correct , how ve is coming as most imp money yielding planet as evident from the table: > > So the basic question remains unanswered. > > Thus either TOB is uncorrect or at 20.51.48,ve must come as most imp money yielding planet so as to tally with actual incidents. > > & if same is most imp money yielding planet, why it failed to yield the same during its full mahadasha of 20 yrs itself. > >  > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > >  SIGN LRD > > > >  STR LRD > > > >  SUB > > > >  TOTAL > > > >  % > > > >  RANK > > > > > > SU > > > >                              2.04 > > > >          7.05 > > > >             2.04 > > > >       11.14 > > > >             4 > > > >             8 > > > > > > MO > > > >                                   -  > > > >       19.01 > > > >  > > > >       19.01 > > > >             6 > > > >             7 > > > > > > MA > > > >                            20.03 > > > >       28.15 > > > >  > > > >       48.18 > > > >           16 > > > >             3 > > > > > > ME > > > >                            31.76 > > > >          9.38 > > > >             2.04 > > > >       43.19 > > > >           14 > > > >             4 > > > > > > JU > > > >                            14.85 > > > >          2.60 > > > >           15.64 > > > >       33.09 > > > >           11 > > > >             5 > > > > > > VE > > > >                            23.01 > > > >       18.45 > > > >           22.45 > > > >       63.91 > > > >           21 > > > >             1 > > > > > > SA > > > >                              8.30 > > > >  > > > >             0.56 > > > >          8.86 > > > >             3 > > > >             9 > > > > > > RA > > > >  > > > >       11.73 > > > >           39.56 > > > >       51.29 > > > >           17 > > > >             2 > > > > > > KE > > > >  > > > >          3.63 > > > >           17.70 > > > >       21.33 > > > >             7 > > > >             6 > > > > > > TOTAL > > > >                         100.00 > > > >     100.00 > > > >         100.00 > > > >     300.00 > > > >   100.00 > > > >  > >  > >  > >  > > > > Thanks & Regards, > >  Sonali > >  > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:56 PM > > @gro ups.com > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > >  > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali, the time rectified is nearly correct except as I found the SSL Sun instead of Venus giving me a time as 20.52.30. ruling planets taken on 12/01/2010; 07-11am; Ambernath. The rectified lagna as per my verification should be Moon-Guru-Rahu- Sun. The main question is what is the important planet.? if we analyse Venus dasa on the whole Venus being lord of 4 and 11, posited in the Sixth with Mercury the lord of 3,12 it would not give good results being in the sixth. The period from 1995 end(Saturn bhukti) would mark the start of hurdles. In short during Venus Dasa the native had to struggle. Sun-Sun, Sun-Moon, Sun Mars could not yield much.Sun dasa promises good results partially during Sun-Rahu & Jupiter bhukti only. Sun-Sat dasa would not prove beneficial, Sun-Ketu, Sun-Ven would be fair enough, Now the question arises why the emphasis on Sun Dasa -Rahu & Jupiter Bhukti gave good results because in the year 2004 Jupiter was transiting in > > Leo second house of the native and all the stars in Leo gave sucess with Education, career and status. In Short Dasa-Bhukti- Antara lords prove fruitful during their transits in favourable houses viz. 1,2,3,6,10,11. > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > --- On Mon, 11/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > @gro ups.com > > Monday, 11 January, 2010, 9:24 PM > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear TWji, > >  > > Note: plz read dob as 2-12-1976 > >  > > Then what according to you, should be the correct TOB ( for the same horo lajmiji has corrected TOB as 20.20) > > But , based on this TOB, 5th sub is Sa & as per KP,if sub of 5th is sig of 8/12 houses,native will have losses from Stock market. > > While actually, native is having profit from stock market although not very substantial or in the manner expected by native. > > Thus, tob of 20.20 does not hold true based on income from stock market. > > Can you/anyone else correct above tob, given the fact that calendar year 2004 was the best year so far in native’s life(from education,career, financial point of view) > >  > > > > Thanks & Regards, > >  Sonali > >  > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of TW > > Monday, January 11, 2010 7:14 PM > > @gro ups.com > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > >  > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > 1. Dob: 02 dec 176? 1976? > > If 1976 and consequently Asc Cn 02:49:05 (KPNA 23:26:41), there is no way to get money in Sun Dasa*, and so the rectified TOB is not tallied with live event. > > *Su(5,3); in star and sub Me(5,4-12). > > 2. There is also no way to calculate such figures for planet. > > In KP, significators are ranked by order of A,B,C,D & E decided by sub signification, taking into account of whether having no planet in their stars or own star or own sub, RPS (if applied) on case by case basis etc. > > Regards, > > TW > > > > @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All Respected Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > In case of a person with birth details as under: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dob: 02 dec 176 > > > > > > Tob 20.51.48( as corrected with RP method) > > > > > > Place Shujalpur(M. P.) > > > > > > Sex Male > > > > > > > > > > > > Various Most imp money incidents are observed : > > > > > > > > > > > > This tables shows how much each of the planet has contributed as > > > Sign/str/sub lord as RP (Lagn & mon position) at the most close time of > > > incident: > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > SIGN LRD > > > > > > STR LRD > > > > > > SUB > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > % > > > > > > RANK > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > 7.05 > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > 11.14 > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > > - > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > > 20.03 > > > > > > 28.15 > > > > > > > > > > > > 48.18 > > > > > > 16 > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > > 31.76 > > > > > > 9.38 > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > 43.19 > > > > > > 14 > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > > 14.85 > > > > > > 2.60 > > > > > > 15.64 > > > > > > 33.09 > > > > > > 11 > > > > > > 5 > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > 23.01 > > > > > > 18.45 > > > > > > 22.45 > > > > > > 63.91 > > > > > > 21 > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > 8.30 > > > > > > > > > > > > 0.56 > > > > > > 8.86 > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.73 > > > > > > 39.56 > > > > > > 51.29 > > > > > > 17 > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.63 > > > > > > 17.70 > > > > > > 21.33 > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > 300.00 > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From above, it appears that, ve is the most imp money giving planet.But > > > above money incidents occurred after passing of Full mahadasha of ve of 20 > > > years. > > > > > > I.e.above incidents occurred during Su mahadasha. > > > > > > If ve is supposed to be the most imp money giving planet(as appeared from > > > above table), why it failed to yield any such results during its Mahadasha > > > itself. > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Dear Sonali ji, What Shri Yogesh ji mentioned was just an expression. One cannot categorise people into " lakhpati, millionnare,or a crorepati or a zillionaire " astrologically. What Yogeshji must have meant probably was,that if the SL of the ascendant is strong then the positives shown by the II, VI and the XIIth will fall in line and make the person really wealthy, otherwise the wealth levels would be subject to change (Low or less wealth) if the SL of the Lagna does not indicate any of these houses. regards, Bhaskar. , SONALI <sonali.me.2009 wrote: > > Dear Yogesh ji, > > > > So what this native should be according to you based on your principle.. lakhpati, millionnare,or a crorepati or a zillionaire??? > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Sonali > > > > On Behalf Of Yogesh > Friday, January 15, 2010 12:36 PM > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > Dears Sonali and Bhaskarji, > The houses II,VI & XI stand for gaining and accumulating wealth...but whether a native is destined to become a lakhpati, millionnare,or a crorepati or a zillionnaire is decided by the s/l of the Lagna,according to his/her past Karma... > That is my humble opinion... > Yogesh Lajmi. > > > <%40> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > I am sorry. But what type of KP are we doing.. > > If any planet gives money or shows money or wealth creations like in this case Venus .. > > Ve 6,11 Sun 5,3 Moon 10,1,2 > > Venus is clearly to give wealth, but how can one expect venus to give money all of 20 years ? Would the antardasha Lords go to sleep till then ? > > > > But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house.. > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ? > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > <%40> , Naresh Valecha <superstaar_n_v@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Sonali, I took up the details that were put up by you and rectified the birth time accordingly.You did not mention the time of birth which has been originally recorded before correcting it. Although RP's at the time of judgement give you a clear picture of birth lagna I would like to know what time has been originally recorded before rectification was done by you. > > >  > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@> > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > <%40> > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 11:55 AM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nareshji, > > >  > > > If you wish, I can provide you date wise incidents in native’s life to cross check whether rectified TOB is correct or not. > > >  > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > >  Sonali > > >  > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:16 AM > > > @gro ups.com > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali, Sincerely I could not understand the table and as per your table and calculations I could not follow how Venus is an Important planet during its own Dasa.Venus if you see is in the sixth house and also it is in 6-8 relation with respect to its own house, i.e if we count 2 as lagna Venus falls in the eighth, besides it is also the sixth and twelveth cuspal sublord, again it is in the star of Sun lord of 2 with Mars lord of 10th and 5. Venus is in the sub of moon afflicted by Saturn and Ketu too, Moon-ketu being together in the tenth. Note the strenght of Moon too its only 02-28 in Aries. Afflicted and weak moon in no way can give the native a good Venus Dasa.This is KP. > > > > > > Now coming to the traditional astrological part. Aries Sade-Sati (7 -1/2 yrs of Saturn) started from feb.1996-2003. When the 10th house is posited with moon and is afflicted by malefics Sani and Ketu. During Sade-Sati 7-1/2yrs of Saturns transit the native has to struggle much through the houses signified by Saturn and Moon if they are not connected with favourably. How could Venus be a chief important planet, Venus in the Sub of afflicted Moon and under the sway of Saturn's transit from 1996-2003. > > > > > >  > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > @gro ups.com > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 8:20 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Valechaji, > > >  > > > Thnx for your analysis. > > >  > > > But if your analysis is considered as correct , how ve is coming as most imp money yielding planet as evident from the table: > > > So the basic question remains unanswered. > > > Thus either TOB is uncorrect or at 20.51.48,ve must come as most imp money yielding planet so as to tally with actual incidents. > > > & if same is most imp money yielding planet, why it failed to yield the same during its full mahadasha of 20 yrs itself. > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > >  SIGN LRD > > > > > >  STR LRD > > > > > >  SUB > > > > > >  TOTAL > > > > > >  % > > > > > >  RANK > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > >                              2.04 > > > > > >          7.05 > > > > > >             2.04 > > > > > >       11.14 > > > > > >             4 > > > > > >             8 > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > >                                   -  > > > > > >       19.01 > > > > > >  > > > > > >       19.01 > > > > > >             6 > > > > > >             7 > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > >                            20.03 > > > > > >       28.15 > > > > > >  > > > > > >       48.18 > > > > > >           16 > > > > > >             3 > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > >                            31.76 > > > > > >          9.38 > > > > > >             2.04 > > > > > >       43.19 > > > > > >           14 > > > > > >             4 > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > >                            14.85 > > > > > >          2.60 > > > > > >           15.64 > > > > > >       33.09 > > > > > >           11 > > > > > >             5 > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > >                            23.01 > > > > > >       18.45 > > > > > >           22.45 > > > > > >       63.91 > > > > > >           21 > > > > > >             1 > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > >                              8.30 > > > > > >  > > > > > >             0.56 > > > > > >          8.86 > > > > > >             3 > > > > > >             9 > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > >  > > > > > >       11.73 > > > > > >           39.56 > > > > > >       51.29 > > > > > >           17 > > > > > >             2 > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > >  > > > > > >          3.63 > > > > > >           17.70 > > > > > >       21.33 > > > > > >             7 > > > > > >             6 > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > >                         100.00 > > > > > >     100.00 > > > > > >         100.00 > > > > > >     300.00 > > > > > >   100.00 > > > > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > >  Sonali > > >  > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:56 PM > > > @gro ups.com > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali, the time rectified is nearly correct except as I found the SSL Sun instead of Venus giving me a time as 20.52.30. ruling planets taken on 12/01/2010; 07-11am; Ambernath. The rectified lagna as per my verification should be Moon-Guru-Rahu- Sun. The main question is what is the important planet.? if we analyse Venus dasa on the whole Venus being lord of 4 and 11, posited in the Sixth with Mercury the lord of 3,12 it would not give good results being in the sixth. The period from 1995 end(Saturn bhukti) would mark the start of hurdles. In short during Venus Dasa the native had to struggle. Sun-Sun, Sun-Moon, Sun Mars could not yield much.Sun dasa promises good results partially during Sun-Rahu & Jupiter bhukti only. Sun-Sat dasa would not prove beneficial, Sun-Ketu, Sun-Ven would be fair enough, Now the question arises why the emphasis on Sun Dasa -Rahu & Jupiter Bhukti gave good results because in the year 2004 Jupiter was transiting in > > > Leo second house of the native and all the stars in Leo gave sucess with Education, career and status. In Short Dasa-Bhukti- Antara lords prove fruitful during their transits in favourable houses viz. 1,2,3,6,10,11. > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > --- On Mon, 11/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > @gro ups.com > > > Monday, 11 January, 2010, 9:24 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TWji, > > >  > > > Note: plz read dob as 2-12-1976 > > >  > > > Then what according to you, should be the correct TOB ( for the same horo lajmiji has corrected TOB as 20.20) > > > But , based on this TOB, 5th sub is Sa & as per KP,if sub of 5th is sig of 8/12 houses,native will have losses from Stock market. > > > While actually, native is having profit from stock market although not very substantial or in the manner expected by native. > > > Thus, tob of 20.20 does not hold true based on income from stock market. > > > Can you/anyone else correct above tob, given the fact that calendar year 2004 was the best year so far in native’s life(from education,career, financial point of view) > > >  > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > >  Sonali > > >  > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of TW > > > Monday, January 11, 2010 7:14 PM > > > @gro ups.com > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > 1. Dob: 02 dec 176? 1976? > > > If 1976 and consequently Asc Cn 02:49:05 (KPNA 23:26:41), there is no way to get money in Sun Dasa*, and so the rectified TOB is not tallied with live event. > > > *Su(5,3); in star and sub Me(5,4-12). > > > 2. There is also no way to calculate such figures for planet. > > > In KP, significators are ranked by order of A,B,C,D & E decided by sub signification, taking into account of whether having no planet in their stars or own star or own sub, RPS (if applied) on case by case basis etc. > > > Regards, > > > TW > > > > > > @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All Respected Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In case of a person with birth details as under: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dob: 02 dec 176 > > > > > > > > Tob 20.51.48( as corrected with RP method) > > > > > > > > Place Shujalpur(M. P.) > > > > > > > > Sex Male > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Various Most imp money incidents are observed : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This tables shows how much each of the planet has contributed as > > > > Sign/str/sub lord as RP (Lagn & mon position) at the most close time of > > > > incident: > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > > > SIGN LRD > > > > > > > > STR LRD > > > > > > > > SUB > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > % > > > > > > > > RANK > > > > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > 7.05 > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > 11.14 > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > > > > 20.03 > > > > > > > > 28.15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 48.18 > > > > > > > > 16 > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > > > > 31.76 > > > > > > > > 9.38 > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > 43.19 > > > > > > > > 14 > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > > > > 14.85 > > > > > > > > 2.60 > > > > > > > > 15.64 > > > > > > > > 33.09 > > > > > > > > 11 > > > > > > > > 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > > > 23.01 > > > > > > > > 18.45 > > > > > > > > 22.45 > > > > > > > > 63.91 > > > > > > > > 21 > > > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > > > 8.30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0.56 > > > > > > > > 8.86 > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.73 > > > > > > > > 39.56 > > > > > > > > 51.29 > > > > > > > > 17 > > > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.63 > > > > > > > > 17.70 > > > > > > > > 21.33 > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > 300.00 > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From above, it appears that, ve is the most imp money giving planet.But > > > > above money incidents occurred after passing of Full mahadasha of ve of 20 > > > > years. > > > > > > > > I.e.above incidents occurred during Su mahadasha. > > > > > > > > If ve is supposed to be the most imp money giving planet(as appeared from > > > > above table), why it failed to yield any such results during its Mahadasha > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Dear Sonali ji, // as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or every week of the month give the same type of results ? ................No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same results everyday ? // Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms of wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native.// This is again absurd expectations and not in Line. why should Venus always represent Love or marriage ? Its the natural karaka-Yes. But then its also karaka for jewels and automobiles etc.. Do You mean to say that ever body running Venus dasha will have Love affairs, marriage, wealth creations etc.. Apart from being natural karaka every planet has got its designated role to play which changes with every individual Horoscope. You must check what gives Love affairs in your Horoscope. What gives marriage in Your horoscope? here what means - Which planet and at what period. //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & nothing substantial happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest.// Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 ...) Here some commonsense is necessary and not too much astrology is required to know the why .. At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 Look at what saturn signifies. Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show great figures of wealth creations ??? and does a boy in that age concentrate on his studies in India (Or elsewhere in the world) or do his parents push him in business or profession ? Then how can we expect him to earn money during this age even if we suppose that the last two antardasha could have given him some money ? // Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his could have provided what you are looking for. Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... //Here I’m not expecting that full period of 20 years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period of 20 years must have produced substantial result// Last 5 years of his venus mahadasha I have already proved with the figures what you could have expected the native to bring in as outputs had you put him in work, instead of studies. And before that we cannot expect a boy between age 5 to 17 to work and produce wealth for us . Or do we ? I dismiss the above case as expecting absudities and illogical results at an unsuitable age from the native in question. regards, Bhaskar. , SONALI <sonali.me.2009 wrote:>> > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > Thanks for your input to the case.> > > > As pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give money.> > If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest amongst the planets of 20 years),> > Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms of wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native.> > During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & nothing substantial > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest.> > > > Here I’m not expecting that full period of 20 years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period of 20 years must have produced substantial result.> > > > Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.> > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > Sonali> > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar> Friday, January 15, 2010 1:33 AM> > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET> > > > > > I am sorry. But what type of KP are we doing..> If any planet gives money or shows money or wealth creations like in this case Venus ..> Ve 6,11 Sun 5,3 Moon 10,1,2> Venus is clearly to give wealth, but how can one expect venus to give money all of 20 years ? Would the antardasha Lords go to sleep till then ?> > But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house..> > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ?> > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?> > regards/Bhaskar.> > <%40> , Naresh Valecha superstaar_n_v@ wrote:> >> > Hi Sonali, I took up the details that were put up by you and rectified the birth time accordingly.You did not mention the time of birth which has been originally recorded before correcting it. Although RP's at the time of judgement give you a clear picture of birth lagna I would like to know what time has been originally recorded before rectification was done by you.> >  > > Naresh Valecha> > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote:> > > > > > SONALI sonali.me.2009@> > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET> > <%40> > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 11:55 AM> > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nareshji,> >  > > If you wish, I can provide you date wise incidents in native’s life to cross check whether rectified TOB is correct or not.> >  > > > > Thanks & Regards,> >  Sonali> >  > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha> > Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:16 AM> > @gro ups.com> > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET> >  > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali, Sincerely I could not understand the table and as per your table and calculations I could not follow how Venus is an Important planet during its own Dasa.Venus if you see is in the sixth house and also it is in 6-8 relation with respect to its own house, i.e if we count 2 as lagna Venus falls in the eighth, besides it is also the sixth and twelveth cuspal sublord, again it is in the star of Sun lord of 2 with Mars lord of 10th and 5. Venus is in the sub of moon afflicted by Saturn and Ketu too, Moon-ketu being together in the tenth. Note the strenght of Moon too its only 02-28 in Aries. Afflicted and weak moon in no way can give the native a good Venus Dasa.This is KP. > > > > Now coming to the traditional astrological part. Aries Sade-Sati (7 -1/2 yrs of Saturn) started from feb.1996-2003. When the 10th house is posited with moon and is afflicted by malefics Sani and Ketu. During Sade-Sati 7-1/2yrs of Saturns transit the native has to struggle much through the houses signified by Saturn and Moon if they are not connected with favourably. How could Venus be a chief important planet, Venus in the Sub of afflicted Moon and under the sway of Saturn's transit from 1996-2003.> > > >  > > > > Naresh Valecha> > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com>> > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET> > @gro ups.com> > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 8:20 PM> > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Valechaji,> >  > > Thnx for your analysis.> >  > > But if your analysis is considered as correct , how ve is coming as most imp money yielding planet as evident from the table: > > So the basic question remains unanswered. > > Thus either TOB is uncorrect or at 20.51.48,ve must come as most imp money yielding planet so as to tally with actual incidents. > > & if same is most imp money yielding planet, why it failed to yield the same during its full mahadasha of 20 yrs itself. > >  > > > > > > > > > > PNT> > > >  SIGN LRD > > > >  STR LRD > > > >  SUB > > > >  TOTAL > > > >  % > > > >  RANK > > > > > > SU> > > >                              2.04 > > > >          7.05 > > > >             2.04 > > > >       11.14 > > > >             4 > > > >             8 > > > > > > MO> > > >                                   -  > > > >       19.01 > > > >  > > > >       19.01 > > > >             6 > > > >             7 > > > > > > MA> > > >                            20.03 > > > >       28.15 > > > >  > > > >       48.18 > > > >           16 > > > >             3 > > > > > > ME> > > >                            31.76 > > > >          9.38 > > > >             2.04 > > > >       43.19 > > > >           14 > > > >             4 > > > > > > JU> > > >                            14.85 > > > >          2.60 > > > >           15.64 > > > >       33.09 > > > >           11 > > > >             5 > > > > > > VE> > > >                            23.01 > > > >       18.45 > > > >           22.45 > > > >       63.91 > > > >           21 > > > >             1 > > > > > > SA> > > >                              8.30 > > > >  > > > >             0.56 > > > >          8.86 > > > >             3 > > > >             9 > > > > > > RA> > > >  > > > >       11.73 > > > >           39.56 > > > >       51.29 > > > >           17 > > > >             2 > > > > > > KE> > > >  > > > >          3.63 > > > >           17.70 > > > >       21.33 > > > >             7 > > > >             6 > > > > > > TOTAL> > > >                         100.00 > > > >     100.00 > > > >         100.00 > > > >     300.00 > > > >   100.00 > > > >  > >  > >  > >  > > > > Thanks & Regards,> >  Sonali > >  > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha> > Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:56 PM> > @gro ups.com> > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET> >  > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali, the time rectified is nearly correct except as I found the SSL Sun instead of Venus giving me a time as 20.52.30. ruling planets taken on 12/01/2010; 07-11am; Ambernath. The rectified lagna as per my verification should be Moon-Guru-Rahu- Sun. The main question is what is the important planet.? if we analyse Venus dasa on the whole Venus being lord of 4 and 11, posited in the Sixth with Mercury the lord of 3,12 it would not give good results being in the sixth. The period from 1995 end(Saturn bhukti) would mark the start of hurdles. In short during Venus Dasa the native had to struggle. Sun-Sun, Sun-Moon, Sun Mars could not yield much.Sun dasa promises good results partially during Sun-Rahu & Jupiter bhukti only. Sun-Sat dasa would not prove beneficial, Sun-Ketu, Sun-Ven would be fair enough, Now the question arises why the emphasis on Sun Dasa -Rahu & Jupiter Bhukti gave good results because in the year 2004 Jupiter was transiting in> > Leo second house of the native and all the stars in Leo gave sucess with Education, career and status. In Short Dasa-Bhukti- Antara lords prove fruitful during their transits in favourable houses viz. 1,2,3,6,10,11.> > > > Naresh Valecha> > > > --- On Mon, 11/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com>> > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET> > @gro ups.com> > Monday, 11 January, 2010, 9:24 PM> > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear TWji,> >  > > Note: plz read dob as 2-12-1976 > >  > > Then what according to you, should be the correct TOB ( for the same horo lajmiji has corrected TOB as 20.20) > > But , based on this TOB, 5th sub is Sa & as per KP,if sub of 5th is sig of 8/12 houses,native will have losses from Stock market. > > While actually, native is having profit from stock market although not very substantial or in the manner expected by native. > > Thus, tob of 20.20 does not hold true based on income from stock market. > > Can you/anyone else correct above tob, given the fact that calendar year 2004 was the best year so far in native’s life(from education,career, financial point of view) > >  > > > > Thanks & Regards,> >  Sonali > >  > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of TW> > Monday, January 11, 2010 7:14 PM> > @gro ups.com> > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET> >  > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend,> > 1. Dob: 02 dec 176? 1976?> > If 1976 and consequently Asc Cn 02:49:05 (KPNA 23:26:41), there is no way to get money in Sun Dasa*, and so the rectified TOB is not tallied with live event.> > *Su(5,3); in star and sub Me(5,4-12). > > 2. There is also no way to calculate such figures for planet.> > In KP, significators are ranked by order of A,B,C,D & E decided by sub signification, taking into account of whether having no planet in their stars or own star or own sub, RPS (if applied) on case by case basis etc.> > Regards,> > TW> > > > @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All Respected Members,> > > > > > > > > > > > In case of a person with birth details as under:> > > > > > > > > > > > Dob: 02 dec 176> > > > > > Tob 20.51.48( as corrected with RP method)> > > > > > Place Shujalpur(M. P.)> > > > > > Sex Male> > > > > > > > > > > > Various Most imp money incidents are observed :> > > > > > > > > > > > This tables shows how much each of the planet has contributed as> > > Sign/str/sub lord as RP (Lagn & mon position) at the most close time of> > > incident:> > > > > > > > > PNT> > > > > > SIGN LRD > > > > > > STR LRD > > > > > > SUB > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > % > > > > > > RANK > > > > > > > > > SU> > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > 7.05 > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > 11.14 > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > MO> > > > > > - > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > MA> > > > > > 20.03 > > > > > > 28.15 > > > > > > > > > > > > 48.18 > > > > > > 16 > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > ME> > > > > > 31.76 > > > > > > 9.38 > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > 43.19 > > > > > > 14 > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > JU> > > > > > 14.85 > > > > > > 2.60 > > > > > > 15.64 > > > > > > 33.09 > > > > > > 11 > > > > > > 5 > > > > > > > > > VE> > > > > > 23.01 > > > > > > 18.45 > > > > > > 22.45 > > > > > > 63.91 > > > > > > 21 > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > > SA> > > > > > 8.30 > > > > > > > > > > > > 0.56 > > > > > > 8.86 > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > > RA> > > > > > > > > > > > 11.73 > > > > > > 39.56 > > > > > > 51.29 > > > > > > 17 > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > KE> > > > > > > > > > > > 3.63 > > > > > > 17.70 > > > > > > 21.33 > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > TOTAL> > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > 300.00 > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From above, it appears that, ve is the most imp money giving planet.But> > > above money incidents occurred after passing of Full mahadasha of ve of 20> > > years.> > > > > > I.e.above incidents occurred during Su mahadasha.> > > > > > If ve is supposed to be the most imp money giving planet(as appeared from> > > above table), why it failed to yield any such results during its Mahadasha> > > itself.> > >> > > >  > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Dear Bhasker ji,.......the II, VI and the XIIth will .......may be a typo error, and it should be .......the II, VI and the XIth willRegdsKalyanBhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Sat, 16 January, 2010 11:15:57 AM Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET Dear Sonali ji, What Shri Yogesh ji mentioned was just an expression. One cannot categorise people into " lakhpati, millionnare, or a crorepati or a zillionaire" astrologically. What Yogeshji must have meant probably was,that if the SL of the ascendant is strong then the positives shown by the II, VI and the XIIth will fall in line and make the person really wealthy, otherwise the wealth levels would be subject to change (Low or less wealth) if the SL of the Lagna does not indicate any of these houses. regards, Bhaskar. @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Yogesh ji, > > > > So what this native should be according to you based on your principle.. lakhpati, millionnare, or a crorepati or a zillionaire? ?? > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Sonali > > > > @gro ups.com [@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of Yogesh > Friday, January 15, 2010 12:36 PM > @gro ups.com > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > Dears Sonali and Bhaskarji, > The houses II,VI & XI stand for gaining and accumulating wealth...but whether a native is destined to become a lakhpati, millionnare, or a crorepati or a zillionnaire is decided by the s/l of the Lagna,according to his/her past Karma... > That is my humble opinion... > Yogesh Lajmi. > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system%40gr oups.com> , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote: > > > > I am sorry. But what type of KP are we doing.. > > If any planet gives money or shows money or wealth creations like in this case Venus .. > > Ve 6,11 Sun 5,3 Moon 10,1,2 > > Venus is clearly to give wealth, but how can one expect venus to give money all of 20 years ? Would the antardasha Lords go to sleep till then ? > > > > But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house.. > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ? > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system%40gr oups.com> , Naresh Valecha <superstaar_ n_v@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Sonali, I took up the details that were put up by you and rectified the birth time accordingly. You did not mention the time of birth which has been originally recorded before correcting it. Although RP's at the time of judgement give you a clear picture of birth lagna I would like to know what time has been originally recorded before rectification was done by you. > > >  > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system%40gr oups.com> > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 11:55 AM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nareshji, > > >  > > > If you wish, I can provide you date wise incidents in native’s life to cross check whether rectified TOB is correct or not. > > >  > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > >  Sonali > > >  > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:16 AM > > > @gro ups.com > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali, Sincerely I could not understand the table and as per your table and calculations I could not follow how Venus is an Important planet during its own Dasa.Venus if you see is in the sixth house and also it is in 6-8 relation with respect to its own house, i.e if we count 2 as lagna Venus falls in the eighth, besides it is also the sixth and twelveth cuspal sublord, again it is in the star of Sun lord of 2 with Mars lord of 10th and 5. Venus is in the sub of moon afflicted by Saturn and Ketu too, Moon-ketu being together in the tenth. Note the strenght of Moon too its only 02-28 in Aries. Afflicted and weak moon in no way can give the native a good Venus Dasa.This is KP. > > > > > > Now coming to the traditional astrological part. Aries Sade-Sati (7 -1/2 yrs of Saturn) started from feb.1996-2003. When the 10th house is posited with moon and is afflicted by malefics Sani and Ketu. During Sade-Sati 7-1/2yrs of Saturns transit the native has to struggle much through the houses signified by Saturn and Moon if they are not connected with favourably. How could Venus be a chief important planet, Venus in the Sub of afflicted Moon and under the sway of Saturn's transit from 1996-2003. > > > > > >  > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > @gro ups.com > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 8:20 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Valechaji, > > >  > > > Thnx for your analysis. > > >  > > > But if your analysis is considered as correct , how ve is coming as most imp money yielding planet as evident from the table: > > > So the basic question remains unanswered. > > > Thus either TOB is uncorrect or at 20.51.48,ve must come as most imp money yielding planet so as to tally with actual incidents. > > > & if same is most imp money yielding planet, why it failed to yield the same during its full mahadasha of 20 yrs itself. > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > >  SIGN LRD > > > > > >  STR LRD > > > > > >  SUB > > > > > >  TOTAL > > > > > >  % > > > > > >  RANK > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > >                              2.04 > > > > > >          7.05 > > > > > >             2.04 > > > > > >       11.14 > > > > > >             4 > > > > > >             8 > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > >                                   -  > > > > > >       19.01 > > > > > >  > > > > > >       19.01 > > > > > >             6 > > > > > >             7 > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > >                            20.03 > > > > > >       28.15 > > > > > >  > > > > > >       48.18 > > > > > >           16 > > > > > >             3 > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > >                            31.76 > > > > > >          9.38 > > > > > >             2.04 > > > > > >       43.19 > > > > > >           14 > > > > > >             4 > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > >                            14.85 > > > > > >          2.60 > > > > > >           15.64 > > > > > >       33.09 > > > > > >           11 > > > > > >             5 > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > >                            23.01 > > > > > >       18.45 > > > > > >           22.45 > > > > > >       63.91 > > > > > >           21 > > > > > >             1 > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > >                              8.30 > > > > > >  > > > > > >             0.56 > > > > > >          8.86 > > > > > >             3 > > > > > >             9 > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > >  > > > > > >       11.73 > > > > > >           39.56 > > > > > >       51.29 > > > > > >           17 > > > > > >             2 > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > >  > > > > > >          3.63 > > > > > >           17.70 > > > > > >       21.33 > > > > > >             7 > > > > > >             6 > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > >                         100.00 > > > > > >     100.00 > > > > > >         100.00 > > > > > >     300.00 > > > > > >   100.00 > > > > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > >  Sonali > > >  > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:56 PM > > > @gro ups.com > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali, the time rectified is nearly correct except as I found the SSL Sun instead of Venus giving me a time as 20.52.30. ruling planets taken on 12/01/2010; 07-11am; Ambernath. The rectified lagna as per my verification should be Moon-Guru-Rahu- Sun. The main question is what is the important planet.? if we analyse Venus dasa on the whole Venus being lord of 4 and 11, posited in the Sixth with Mercury the lord of 3,12 it would not give good results being in the sixth. The period from 1995 end(Saturn bhukti) would mark the start of hurdles. In short during Venus Dasa the native had to struggle. Sun-Sun, Sun-Moon, Sun Mars could not yield much.Sun dasa promises good results partially during Sun-Rahu & Jupiter bhukti only. Sun-Sat dasa would not prove beneficial, Sun-Ketu, Sun-Ven would be fair enough, Now the question arises why the emphasis on Sun Dasa -Rahu & Jupiter Bhukti gave good results because in the year 2004 Jupiter was transiting in > > > Leo second house of the native and all the stars in Leo gave sucess with Education, career and status. In Short Dasa-Bhukti- Antara lords prove fruitful during their transits in favourable houses viz. 1,2,3,6,10,11. > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > --- On Mon, 11/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > @gro ups.com > > > Monday, 11 January, 2010, 9:24 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TWji, > > >  > > > Note: plz read dob as 2-12-1976 > > >  > > > Then what according to you, should be the correct TOB ( for the same horo lajmiji has corrected TOB as 20.20) > > > But , based on this TOB, 5th sub is Sa & as per KP,if sub of 5th is sig of 8/12 houses,native will have losses from Stock market. > > > While actually, native is having profit from stock market although not very substantial or in the manner expected by native. > > > Thus, tob of 20.20 does not hold true based on income from stock market. > > > Can you/anyone else correct above tob, given the fact that calendar year 2004 was the best year so far in native’s life(from education,career, financial point of view) > > >  > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > >  Sonali > > >  > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of TW > > > Monday, January 11, 2010 7:14 PM > > > @gro ups.com > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > 1. Dob: 02 dec 176? 1976? > > > If 1976 and consequently Asc Cn 02:49:05 (KPNA 23:26:41), there is no way to get money in Sun Dasa*, and so the rectified TOB is not tallied with live event. > > > *Su(5,3); in star and sub Me(5,4-12). > > > 2. There is also no way to calculate such figures for planet. > > > In KP, significators are ranked by order of A,B,C,D & E decided by sub signification, taking into account of whether having no planet in their stars or own star or own sub, RPS (if applied) on case by case basis etc. > > > Regards, > > > TW > > > > > > @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All Respected Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In case of a person with birth details as under: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dob: 02 dec 176 > > > > > > > > Tob 20.51.48( as corrected with RP method) > > > > > > > > Place Shujalpur(M. P.) > > > > > > > > Sex Male > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Various Most imp money incidents are observed : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This tables shows how much each of the planet has contributed as > > > > Sign/str/sub lord as RP (Lagn & mon position) at the most close time of > > > > incident: > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > > > SIGN LRD > > > > > > > > STR LRD > > > > > > > > SUB > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > % > > > > > > > > RANK > > > > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > 7.05 > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > 11.14 > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > > > > 20.03 > > > > > > > > 28.15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 48.18 > > > > > > > > 16 > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > > > > 31.76 > > > > > > > > 9.38 > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > 43.19 > > > > > > > > 14 > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > > > > 14.85 > > > > > > > > 2.60 > > > > > > > > 15.64 > > > > > > > > 33.09 > > > > > > > > 11 > > > > > > > > 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > > > 23.01 > > > > > > > > 18.45 > > > > > > > > 22.45 > > > > > > > > 63.91 > > > > > > > > 21 > > > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > > > 8.30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0.56 > > > > > > > > 8.86 > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.73 > > > > > > > > 39.56 > > > > > > > > 51.29 > > > > > > > > 17 > > > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.63 > > > > > > > > 17.70 > > > > > > > > 21.33 > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > 300.00 > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From above, it appears that, ve is the most imp money giving planet.But > > > > above money incidents occurred after passing of Full mahadasha of ve of 20 > > > > years. > > > > > > > > I.e.above incidents occurred during Su mahadasha. > > > > > > > > If ve is supposed to be the most imp money giving planet(as appeared from > > > > above table), why it failed to yield any such results during its Mahadasha > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Dear Kalyan ji, yes Sir. Its a typo. Thank you for pointing this and correcting the same. regards, Bhaskar. , Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote: > > Dear Bhasker ji, > > .......the II, VI and the XIIth will ....... > > may be a typo error, and it should be > > .......the II, VI and the XIth will > > Regds > > Kalyan > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish > > Sat, 16 January, 2010 11:15:57 AM > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > Dear Sonali ji, > > What Shri Yogesh ji mentioned was just an expression. One cannot categorise people into " lakhpati, millionnare, or a crorepati or a zillionaire " astrologically. What Yogeshji must have meant probably was,that if the SL of the ascendant is strong then the positives shown by the II, VI and the XIIth will fall in line and make the person really wealthy, otherwise the wealth levels would be subject to change (Low or less wealth) if the SL of the Lagna does not indicate any of these houses. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Yogesh ji, > > > > > > > > So what this native should be according to you based on your principle.. lakhpati, millionnare, or a crorepati or a zillionaire? ?? > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of Yogesh > > Friday, January 15, 2010 12:36 PM > > @gro ups.com > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > Dears Sonali and Bhaskarji, > > The houses II,VI & XI stand for gaining and accumulating wealth...but whether a native is destined to become a lakhpati, millionnare, or a crorepati or a zillionnaire is decided by the s/l of the Lagna,according to his/her past Karma... > > That is my humble opinion... > > Yogesh Lajmi. > > > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system%40gr oups.com> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote: > > > > > > I am sorry. But what type of KP are we doing.. > > > If any planet gives money or shows money or wealth creations like in this case Venus .. > > > Ve 6,11 Sun 5,3 Moon 10,1,2 > > > Venus is clearly to give wealth, but how can one expect venus to give money all of 20 years ? Would the antardasha Lords go to sleep till then ? > > > > > > But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house.. > > > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ? > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system%40gr oups.com> , Naresh Valecha <superstaar_ n_v@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali, I took up the details that were put up by you and rectified the birth time accordingly. You did not mention the time of birth which has been originally recorded before correcting it. Although RP's at the time of judgement give you a clear picture of birth lagna I would like to know what time has been originally recorded before rectification was done by you. > > > >  > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ > > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system%40gr oups.com> > > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 11:55 AM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nareshji, > > > >  > > > > If you wish, I can provide you date wise incidents in native’s life to cross check whether rectified TOB is correct or not. > > > >  > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > >  Sonali > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > > Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:16 AM > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > >  > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali, Sincerely I could not understand the table and as per your table and calculations I could not follow how Venus is an Important planet during its own Dasa.Venus if you see is in the sixth house and also it is in 6-8 relation with respect to its own house, i.e if we count 2 as lagna Venus falls in the eighth, besides it is also the sixth and twelveth cuspal sublord, again it is in the star of Sun lord of 2 with Mars lord of 10th and 5. Venus is in the sub of moon afflicted by Saturn and Ketu too, Moon-ketu being together in the tenth. Note the strenght of Moon too its only 02-28 in Aries. Afflicted and weak moon in no way can give the native a good Venus Dasa.This is KP. > > > > > > > > Now coming to the traditional astrological part. Aries Sade-Sati (7 -1/2 yrs of Saturn) started from feb.1996-2003. When the 10th house is posited with moon and is afflicted by malefics Sani and Ketu. During Sade-Sati 7-1/2yrs of Saturns transit the native has to struggle much through the houses signified by Saturn and Moon if they are not connected with favourably. How could Venus be a chief important planet, Venus in the Sub of afflicted Moon and under the sway of Saturn's transit from 1996-2003. > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 8:20 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Valechaji, > > > >  > > > > Thnx for your analysis. > > > >  > > > > But if your analysis is considered as correct , how ve is coming as most imp money yielding planet as evident from the table: > > > > So the basic question remains unanswered. > > > > Thus either TOB is uncorrect or at 20.51.48,ve must come as most imp money yielding planet so as to tally with actual incidents. > > > > & if same is most imp money yielding planet, why it failed to yield the same during its full mahadasha of 20 yrs itself. > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > > >  SIGN LRD > > > > > > > >  STR LRD > > > > > > > >  SUB > > > > > > > >  TOTAL > > > > > > > >  % > > > > > > > >  RANK > > > > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > > >                              2.04 > > > > > > > >          7.05 > > > > > > > >             2.04 > > > > > > > >       11.14 > > > > > > > >             4 > > > > > > > >             8 > > > > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > > > >                                   -  > > > > > > > >       19.01 > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > >       19.01 > > > > > > > >             6 > > > > > > > >             7 > > > > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > > > >                            20.03 > > > > > > > >       28.15 > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > >       48.18 > > > > > > > >           16 > > > > > > > >             3 > > > > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > > > >                            31.76 > > > > > > > >          9.38 > > > > > > > >             2.04 > > > > > > > >       43.19 > > > > > > > >           14 > > > > > > > >             4 > > > > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > > > >                            14.85 > > > > > > > >          2.60 > > > > > > > >           15.64 > > > > > > > >       33.09 > > > > > > > >           11 > > > > > > > >             5 > > > > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > > >                            23.01 > > > > > > > >       18.45 > > > > > > > >           22.45 > > > > > > > >       63.91 > > > > > > > >           21 > > > > > > > >             1 > > > > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > > >                              8.30 > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > >             0.56 > > > > > > > >          8.86 > > > > > > > >             3 > > > > > > > >             9 > > > > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > >       11.73 > > > > > > > >           39.56 > > > > > > > >       51.29 > > > > > > > >           17 > > > > > > > >             2 > > > > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > >          3.63 > > > > > > > >           17.70 > > > > > > > >       21.33 > > > > > > > >             7 > > > > > > > >             6 > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > >                         100.00 > > > > > > > >     100.00 > > > > > > > >         100.00 > > > > > > > >     300.00 > > > > > > > >   100.00 > > > > > > > >  > > > >  > > > >  > > > >  > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > >  Sonali > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > > Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:56 PM > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > >  > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali, the time rectified is nearly correct except as I found the SSL Sun instead of Venus giving me a time as 20.52.30. ruling planets taken on 12/01/2010; 07-11am; Ambernath. The rectified lagna as per my verification should be Moon-Guru-Rahu- Sun. The main question is what is the important planet.? if we analyse Venus dasa on the whole Venus being lord of 4 and 11, posited in the Sixth with Mercury the lord of 3,12 it would not give good results being in the sixth. The period from 1995 end(Saturn bhukti) would mark the start of hurdles. In short during Venus Dasa the native had to struggle. Sun-Sun, Sun-Moon, Sun Mars could not yield much.Sun dasa promises good results partially during Sun-Rahu & Jupiter bhukti only. Sun-Sat dasa would not prove beneficial, Sun-Ketu, Sun-Ven would be fair enough, Now the question arises why the emphasis on Sun Dasa -Rahu & Jupiter Bhukti gave good results because in the > year 2004 Jupiter was transiting in > > > > Leo second house of the native and all the stars in Leo gave sucess with Education, career and status. In Short Dasa-Bhukti- Antara lords prove fruitful during their transits in favourable houses viz. 1,2,3,6,10,11. > > > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 11/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Monday, 11 January, 2010, 9:24 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TWji, > > > >  > > > > Note: plz read dob as 2-12-1976 > > > >  > > > > Then what according to you, should be the correct TOB ( for the same horo lajmiji has corrected TOB as 20.20) > > > > But , based on this TOB, 5th sub is Sa & as per KP,if sub of 5th is sig of 8/12 houses,native will have losses from Stock market. > > > > While actually, native is having profit from stock market although not very substantial or in the manner expected by native. > > > > Thus, tob of 20.20 does not hold true based on income from stock market. > > > > Can you/anyone else correct above tob, given the fact that calendar year 2004 was the best year so far in native’s life(from education,career, financial point of view) > > > >  > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > >  Sonali > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of TW > > > > Monday, January 11, 2010 7:14 PM > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > >  > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > 1. Dob: 02 dec 176? 1976? > > > > If 1976 and consequently Asc Cn 02:49:05 (KPNA 23:26:41), there is no way to get money in Sun Dasa*, and so the rectified TOB is not tallied with live event. > > > > *Su(5,3); in star and sub Me(5,4-12). > > > > 2. There is also no way to calculate such figures for planet. > > > > In KP, significators are ranked by order of A,B,C,D & E decided by sub signification, taking into account of whether having no planet in their stars or own star or own sub, RPS (if applied) on case by case basis etc. > > > > Regards, > > > > TW > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All Respected Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In case of a person with birth details as under: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dob: 02 dec 176 > > > > > > > > > > Tob 20.51.48( as corrected with RP method) > > > > > > > > > > Place Shujalpur(M. P.) > > > > > > > > > > Sex Male > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Various Most imp money incidents are observed : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This tables shows how much each of the planet has contributed as > > > > > Sign/str/sub lord as RP (Lagn & mon position) at the most close time of > > > > > incident: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > > > > > SIGN LRD > > > > > > > > > > STR LRD > > > > > > > > > > SUB > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > > > % > > > > > > > > > > RANK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > 7.05 > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > 11.14 > > > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > > > > > > 20.03 > > > > > > > > > > 28.15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 48.18 > > > > > > > > > > 16 > > > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > > > > > > 31.76 > > > > > > > > > > 9.38 > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > 43.19 > > > > > > > > > > 14 > > > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > > > > > > 14.85 > > > > > > > > > > 2.60 > > > > > > > > > > 15.64 > > > > > > > > > > 33.09 > > > > > > > > > > 11 > > > > > > > > > > 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > > > > > 23.01 > > > > > > > > > > 18.45 > > > > > > > > > > 22.45 > > > > > > > > > > 63.91 > > > > > > > > > > 21 > > > > > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > > > > > 8.30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0.56 > > > > > > > > > > 8.86 > > > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.73 > > > > > > > > > > 39.56 > > > > > > > > > > 51.29 > > > > > > > > > > 17 > > > > > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.63 > > > > > > > > > > 17.70 > > > > > > > > > > 21.33 > > > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > 300.00 > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From above, it appears that, ve is the most imp money giving planet.But > > > > > above money incidents occurred after passing of Full mahadasha of ve of 20 > > > > > years. > > > > > > > > > > I.e.above incidents occurred during Su mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > If ve is supposed to be the most imp money giving planet(as appeared from > > > > > above table), why it failed to yield any such results during its Mahadasha > > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 /message/30625?threaded=1 , Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote: > > Dear Bhasker ji, > > .......the II, VI and the XIIth will ....... > > may be a typo error, and it should be > > .......the II, VI and the XIth will > > Regds > > Kalyan > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish > > Sat, 16 January, 2010 11:15:57 AM > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > Dear Sonali ji, > > What Shri Yogesh ji mentioned was just an expression. One cannot categorise people into " lakhpati, millionnare, or a crorepati or a zillionaire " astrologically. What Yogeshji must have meant probably was,that if the SL of the ascendant is strong then the positives shown by the II, VI and the XIIth will fall in line and make the person really wealthy, otherwise the wealth levels would be subject to change (Low or less wealth) if the SL of the Lagna does not indicate any of these houses. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Yogesh ji, > > > > > > > > So what this native should be according to you based on your principle.. lakhpati, millionnare, or a crorepati or a zillionaire? ?? > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of Yogesh > > Friday, January 15, 2010 12:36 PM > > @gro ups.com > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > Dears Sonali and Bhaskarji, > > The houses II,VI & XI stand for gaining and accumulating wealth...but whether a native is destined to become a lakhpati, millionnare, or a crorepati or a zillionnaire is decided by the s/l of the Lagna,according to his/her past Karma... > > That is my humble opinion... > > Yogesh Lajmi. > > > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system%40gr oups.com> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote: > > > > > > I am sorry. But what type of KP are we doing.. > > > If any planet gives money or shows money or wealth creations like in this case Venus .. > > > Ve 6,11 Sun 5,3 Moon 10,1,2 > > > Venus is clearly to give wealth, but how can one expect venus to give money all of 20 years ? Would the antardasha Lords go to sleep till then ? > > > > > > But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house.. > > > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ? > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system%40gr oups.com> , Naresh Valecha <superstaar_ n_v@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali, I took up the details that were put up by you and rectified the birth time accordingly. You did not mention the time of birth which has been originally recorded before correcting it. Although RP's at the time of judgement give you a clear picture of birth lagna I would like to know what time has been originally recorded before rectification was done by you. > > > >  > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ > > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system%40gr oups.com> > > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 11:55 AM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nareshji, > > > >  > > > > If you wish, I can provide you date wise incidents in native’s life to cross check whether rectified TOB is correct or not. > > > >  > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > >  Sonali > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > > Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:16 AM > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > >  > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali, Sincerely I could not understand the table and as per your table and calculations I could not follow how Venus is an Important planet during its own Dasa.Venus if you see is in the sixth house and also it is in 6-8 relation with respect to its own house, i.e if we count 2 as lagna Venus falls in the eighth, besides it is also the sixth and twelveth cuspal sublord, again it is in the star of Sun lord of 2 with Mars lord of 10th and 5. Venus is in the sub of moon afflicted by Saturn and Ketu too, Moon-ketu being together in the tenth. Note the strenght of Moon too its only 02-28 in Aries. Afflicted and weak moon in no way can give the native a good Venus Dasa.This is KP. > > > > > > > > Now coming to the traditional astrological part. Aries Sade-Sati (7 -1/2 yrs of Saturn) started from feb.1996-2003. When the 10th house is posited with moon and is afflicted by malefics Sani and Ketu. During Sade-Sati 7-1/2yrs of Saturns transit the native has to struggle much through the houses signified by Saturn and Moon if they are not connected with favourably. How could Venus be a chief important planet, Venus in the Sub of afflicted Moon and under the sway of Saturn's transit from 1996-2003. > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 8:20 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Valechaji, > > > >  > > > > Thnx for your analysis. > > > >  > > > > But if your analysis is considered as correct , how ve is coming as most imp money yielding planet as evident from the table: > > > > So the basic question remains unanswered. > > > > Thus either TOB is uncorrect or at 20.51.48,ve must come as most imp money yielding planet so as to tally with actual incidents. > > > > & if same is most imp money yielding planet, why it failed to yield the same during its full mahadasha of 20 yrs itself. > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > > >  SIGN LRD > > > > > > > >  STR LRD > > > > > > > >  SUB > > > > > > > >  TOTAL > > > > > > > >  % > > > > > > > >  RANK > > > > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > > >                              2.04 > > > > > > > >          7.05 > > > > > > > >             2.04 > > > > > > > >       11.14 > > > > > > > >             4 > > > > > > > >             8 > > > > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > > > >                                   -  > > > > > > > >       19.01 > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > >       19.01 > > > > > > > >             6 > > > > > > > >             7 > > > > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > > > >                            20.03 > > > > > > > >       28.15 > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > >       48.18 > > > > > > > >           16 > > > > > > > >             3 > > > > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > > > >                            31.76 > > > > > > > >          9.38 > > > > > > > >             2.04 > > > > > > > >       43.19 > > > > > > > >           14 > > > > > > > >             4 > > > > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > > > >                            14.85 > > > > > > > >          2.60 > > > > > > > >           15.64 > > > > > > > >       33.09 > > > > > > > >           11 > > > > > > > >             5 > > > > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > > >                            23.01 > > > > > > > >       18.45 > > > > > > > >           22.45 > > > > > > > >       63.91 > > > > > > > >           21 > > > > > > > >             1 > > > > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > > >                              8.30 > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > >             0.56 > > > > > > > >          8.86 > > > > > > > >             3 > > > > > > > >             9 > > > > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > >       11.73 > > > > > > > >           39.56 > > > > > > > >       51.29 > > > > > > > >           17 > > > > > > > >             2 > > > > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > >          3.63 > > > > > > > >           17.70 > > > > > > > >       21.33 > > > > > > > >             7 > > > > > > > >             6 > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > >                         100.00 > > > > > > > >     100.00 > > > > > > > >         100.00 > > > > > > > >     300.00 > > > > > > > >   100.00 > > > > > > > >  > > > >  > > > >  > > > >  > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > >  Sonali > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > > Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:56 PM > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > >  > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali, the time rectified is nearly correct except as I found the SSL Sun instead of Venus giving me a time as 20.52.30. ruling planets taken on 12/01/2010; 07-11am; Ambernath. The rectified lagna as per my verification should be Moon-Guru-Rahu- Sun. The main question is what is the important planet.? if we analyse Venus dasa on the whole Venus being lord of 4 and 11, posited in the Sixth with Mercury the lord of 3,12 it would not give good results being in the sixth. The period from 1995 end(Saturn bhukti) would mark the start of hurdles. In short during Venus Dasa the native had to struggle. Sun-Sun, Sun-Moon, Sun Mars could not yield much.Sun dasa promises good results partially during Sun-Rahu & Jupiter bhukti only. Sun-Sat dasa would not prove beneficial, Sun-Ketu, Sun-Ven would be fair enough, Now the question arises why the emphasis on Sun Dasa -Rahu & Jupiter Bhukti gave good results because in the > year 2004 Jupiter was transiting in > > > > Leo second house of the native and all the stars in Leo gave sucess with Education, career and status. In Short Dasa-Bhukti- Antara lords prove fruitful during their transits in favourable houses viz. 1,2,3,6,10,11. > > > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 11/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Monday, 11 January, 2010, 9:24 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TWji, > > > >  > > > > Note: plz read dob as 2-12-1976 > > > >  > > > > Then what according to you, should be the correct TOB ( for the same horo lajmiji has corrected TOB as 20.20) > > > > But , based on this TOB, 5th sub is Sa & as per KP,if sub of 5th is sig of 8/12 houses,native will have losses from Stock market. > > > > While actually, native is having profit from stock market although not very substantial or in the manner expected by native. > > > > Thus, tob of 20.20 does not hold true based on income from stock market. > > > > Can you/anyone else correct above tob, given the fact that calendar year 2004 was the best year so far in native’s life(from education,career, financial point of view) > > > >  > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > >  Sonali > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of TW > > > > Monday, January 11, 2010 7:14 PM > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > >  > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > 1. Dob: 02 dec 176? 1976? > > > > If 1976 and consequently Asc Cn 02:49:05 (KPNA 23:26:41), there is no way to get money in Sun Dasa*, and so the rectified TOB is not tallied with live event. > > > > *Su(5,3); in star and sub Me(5,4-12). > > > > 2. There is also no way to calculate such figures for planet. > > > > In KP, significators are ranked by order of A,B,C,D & E decided by sub signification, taking into account of whether having no planet in their stars or own star or own sub, RPS (if applied) on case by case basis etc. > > > > Regards, > > > > TW > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All Respected Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In case of a person with birth details as under: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dob: 02 dec 176 > > > > > > > > > > Tob 20.51.48( as corrected with RP method) > > > > > > > > > > Place Shujalpur(M. P.) > > > > > > > > > > Sex Male > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Various Most imp money incidents are observed : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This tables shows how much each of the planet has contributed as > > > > > Sign/str/sub lord as RP (Lagn & mon position) at the most close time of > > > > > incident: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > > > > > SIGN LRD > > > > > > > > > > STR LRD > > > > > > > > > > SUB > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > > > % > > > > > > > > > > RANK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > 7.05 > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > 11.14 > > > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > > > > > > 20.03 > > > > > > > > > > 28.15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 48.18 > > > > > > > > > > 16 > > > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > > > > > > 31.76 > > > > > > > > > > 9.38 > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > 43.19 > > > > > > > > > > 14 > > > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > > > > > > 14.85 > > > > > > > > > > 2.60 > > > > > > > > > > 15.64 > > > > > > > > > > 33.09 > > > > > > > > > > 11 > > > > > > > > > > 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > > > > > 23.01 > > > > > > > > > > 18.45 > > > > > > > > > > 22.45 > > > > > > > > > > 63.91 > > > > > > > > > > 21 > > > > > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > > > > > 8.30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0.56 > > > > > > > > > > 8.86 > > > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.73 > > > > > > > > > > 39.56 > > > > > > > > > > 51.29 > > > > > > > > > > 17 > > > > > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.63 > > > > > > > > > > 17.70 > > > > > > > > > > 21.33 > > > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > 300.00 > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From above, it appears that, ve is the most imp money giving planet.But > > > > > above money incidents occurred after passing of Full mahadasha of ve of 20 > > > > > years. > > > > > > > > > > I.e.above incidents occurred during Su mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > If ve is supposed to be the most imp money giving planet(as appeared from > > > > > above table), why it failed to yield any such results during its Mahadasha > > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Dear Sonaliji. You are repeatedly harping on the same question as to why there was no indication of financial improvement during the entire Venus Dasa of 20 years. Venus being an important planet to give money and instead some improvement was noticed in Sun Dasa. Shri Bhaskar has given good answer to you. If you are still not satisfied, please try "Progression" method recommended by late Sri K.S.K. our Guruji. Its utility is described as follows: "Many Horoscopes in which periods running with good significations under the star and sub lord's significations in Natal chart position but quite detrimntal results of sufferings by the native are indicated by the Dasa, Bhukthi lords in the Progressed Chart. Thus the Progressed chart will reveal your exact problem. Please try the same. With best wishes, Yrs, sincy, K.S.V.Ramani - Bhaskar Saturday, January 16, 2010 12:11 PM Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET Dear Sonali ji, // as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or every week of the month give the same type of results ? ................No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same results everyday ? // Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms of wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native.// This is again absurd expectations and not in Line. why should Venus always represent Love or marriage ? Its the natural karaka-Yes. But then its also karaka for jewels and automobiles etc.. Do You mean to say that ever body running Venus dasha will have Love affairs, marriage, wealth creations etc.. Apart from being natural karaka every planet has got its designated role to play which changes with every individual Horoscope. You must check what gives Love affairs in your Horoscope. What gives marriage in Your horoscope? here what means - Which planet and at what period. //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & nothing substantial happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest.// Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 ...) Here some commonsense is necessary and not too much astrology is required to know the why .. At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 Look at what saturn signifies. Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show great figures of wealth creations ??? and does a boy in that age concentrate on his studies in India (Or elsewhere in the world) or do his parents push him in business or profession ? Then how can we expect him to earn money during this age even if we suppose that the last two antardasha could have given him some money ? // Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his could have provided what you are looking for. Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... //Here I’m not expecting that full period of 20 years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period of 20 years must have produced substantial result// Last 5 years of his venus mahadasha I have already proved with the figures what you could have expected the native to bring in as outputs had you put him in work, instead of studies. And before that we cannot expect a boy between age 5 to 17 to work and produce wealth for us . Or do we ? I dismiss the above case as expecting absudities and illogical results at an unsuitable age from the native in question. regards, Bhaskar. , SONALI <sonali.me.2009 wrote:>> > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > Thanks for your input to the case.> > > > As pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give money.> > If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest amongst the planets of 20 years),> > Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms of wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native.> > During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & nothing substantial > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest.> > > > Here I’m not expecting that full period of 20 years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period of 20 years must have produced substantial result.> > > > Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.> > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > Sonali> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Dear Bhaskar ji, At the outset ,I’d like to give u thanks, for putting your valuable time to study this case. My pointwise reply is as under: 1.// as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or every week of the month give the same type of results ? ................No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same results everyday ? Reply: I cant believe that a person of caliber like bhaskar ji has interpretated this in this narrow manner. Here my point is that, if ve is surely going to provide wealth as pointed out by Bhaskar ji himself. So the logical interpretation would be to think that during its mahadasha which if a fairly long period of 20 years,ve should’ve given wealth during the whole period AS A WHOLE, & NOT EVERYDAY/EVERY HOUR/EVERY MIN. i.e.if one measure result of Ve mahadasha as a whole, one should be in a position to conclude that ve mahadasha was favourable to the native in terms of wealth which is not the case here. 2. //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & nothing substantial happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest.// Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 ...) Reply: “What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry†Not a boy, but obviously yes , a teenager/young man of 20-25 is always expected to earn wealth ( if he is running Ve mahadasha & if ve is a strong sig of money as pointed by bhaskarji himself as its not totally abnormal for a young person to accumulate wealth in age group 20-25 atleast , if not earlier & have atleast love affairs( ve is strong sig of 5,6,3,11) if not marriage/love marriage. 3.At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 Look at what saturn signifies. Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show great figures of wealth creations ??? Reply: during age of 5-17, we ourselves should not expect the native to earn wealth & during 18-25,dashas are not favourable to earn wealth as pointed by Bhaskar ji, Then what is the overall result of Ve mahadasha of 20 years if Ve is said to be a strong sig of Money in this case?? When its results are likely to be in full swing..??? As in words of Bhaskar ji himself: “But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house.. Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?†4.// Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his could have provided what you are looking for. Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... Reply: to the extent I understand KP, RP at the time of actual event must be in agreement with significators of that event based on TOB.Thus,if they dnt tally, TOB can be assumed to be incorrect. I’m not expecting the native to be a millionaire or not but if ve is a strong sig of money/wealth & he’s running through ve Mahadasha, atleast he can be assumed to have earned something more than a few thousand rupees, which he didn’t during its mahadasha. Thanks & Regards, Sonali On Behalf Of Bhaskar Saturday, January 16, 2010 12:11 PM Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET Dear Sonali ji, // as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or every week of the month give the same type of results ? ................No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same results everyday ? // Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms of wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native.// This is again absurd expectations and not in Line. why should Venus always represent Love or marriage ? Its the natural karaka-Yes. But then its also karaka for jewels and automobiles etc.. Do You mean to say that ever body running Venus dasha will have Love affairs, marriage, wealth creations etc.. Apart from being natural karaka every planet has got its designated role to play which changes with every individual Horoscope. You must check what gives Love affairs in your Horoscope. What gives marriage in Your horoscope? here what means - Which planet and at what period. //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & nothing substantial happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest.// Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 ....) Here some commonsense is necessary and not too much astrology is required to know the why .. At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 Look at what saturn signifies. Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show great figures of wealth creations ??? and does a boy in that age concentrate on his studies in India (Or elsewhere in the world) or do his parents push him in business or profession ? Then how can we expect him to earn money during this age even if we suppose that the last two antardasha could have given him some money ? // Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his could have provided what you are looking for. Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... //Here I’m not expecting that full period of 20 years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period of 20 years must have produced substantial result// Last 5 years of his venus mahadasha I have already proved with the figures what you could have expected the native to bring in as outputs had you put him in work, instead of studies. And before that we cannot expect a boy between age 5 to 17 to work and produce wealth for us . Or do we ? I dismiss the above case as expecting absudities and illogical results at an unsuitable age from the native in question. regards, Bhaskar. , SONALI <sonali.me.2009 wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > Thanks for your input to the case. > > > > As pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give money. > > If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest amongst the planets of 20 years), > > Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms of wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native. > > During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & nothing substantial > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest. > > > > Here I’m not expecting that full period of 20 years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period of 20 years must have produced substantial result. > > > > Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Sonali > > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Friday, January 15, 2010 1:33 AM > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > I am sorry. But what type of KP are we doing.. > If any planet gives money or shows money or wealth creations like in this case Venus .. > Ve 6,11 Sun 5,3 Moon 10,1,2 > Venus is clearly to give wealth, but how can one expect venus to give money all of 20 years ? Would the antardasha Lords go to sleep till then ? > > But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house.. > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ? > > regards/Bhaskar. > > <%40> , Naresh Valecha superstaar_n_v@ wrote: > > > > Hi Sonali, I took up the details that were put up by you and rectified the birth time accordingly.You did not mention the time of birth which has been originally recorded before correcting it. Although RP's at the time of judgement give you a clear picture of birth lagna I would like to know what time has been originally recorded before rectification was done by you. > >  > > Naresh Valecha > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > SONALI sonali.me.2009@ > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > <%40> > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 11:55 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nareshji, > >  > > If you wish, I can provide you date wise incidents in native’s life to cross check whether rectified TOB is correct or not. > >  > > > > Thanks & Regards, > >  Sonali > >  > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:16 AM > > @gro ups.com > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > >  > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali, Sincerely I could not understand the table and as per your table and calculations I could not follow how Venus is an Important planet during its own Dasa.Venus if you see is in the sixth house and also it is in 6-8 relation with respect to its own house, i.e if we count 2 as lagna Venus falls in the eighth, besides it is also the sixth and twelveth cuspal sublord, again it is in the star of Sun lord of 2 with Mars lord of 10th and 5. Venus is in the sub of moon afflicted by Saturn and Ketu too, Moon-ketu being together in the tenth. Note the strenght of Moon too its only 02-28 in Aries. Afflicted and weak moon in no way can give the native a good Venus Dasa.This is KP. > > > > Now coming to the traditional astrological part. Aries Sade-Sati (7 -1/2 yrs of Saturn) started from feb.1996-2003. When the 10th house is posited with moon and is afflicted by malefics Sani and Ketu. During Sade-Sati 7-1/2yrs of Saturns transit the native has to struggle much through the houses signified by Saturn and Moon if they are not connected with favourably. How could Venus be a chief important planet, Venus in the Sub of afflicted Moon and under the sway of Saturn's transit from 1996-2003. > > > >  > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > @gro ups.com > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 8:20 PM > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Valechaji, > >  > > Thnx for your analysis. > >  > > But if your analysis is considered as correct , how ve is coming as most imp money yielding planet as evident from the table: > > So the basic question remains unanswered. > > Thus either TOB is uncorrect or at 20.51.48,ve must come as most imp money yielding planet so as to tally with actual incidents. > > & if same is most imp money yielding planet, why it failed to yield the same during its full mahadasha of 20 yrs itself. > >  > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > >  SIGN LRD > > > >  STR LRD > > > >  SUB > > > >  TOTAL > > > >  % > > > >  RANK > > > > > > SU > > > >                              2.04 > > > >          7.05 > > > >             2.04 > > > >       11.14 > > > >             4 > > > >             8 > > > > > > MO > > > >                                   -  > > > >       19.01 > > > >  > > > >       19.01 > > > >             6 > > > >             7 > > > > > > MA > > > >                            20.03 > > > >       28.15 > > > >  > > > >       48.18 > > > >           16 > > > >             3 > > > > > > ME > > > >                            31.76 > > > >          9.38 > > > >             2.04 > > > >       43.19 > > > >           14 > > > >             4 > > > > > > JU > > > >                            14.85 > > > >          2.60 > > > >           15.64 > > > >       33.09 > > > >           11 > > > >             5 > > > > > > VE > > > >                            23.01 > > > >       18.45 > > > >           22.45 > > > >       63.91 > > > >           21 > > > >             1 > > > > > > SA > > > >                              8.30 > > > >  > > > >             0.56 > > > >          8.86 > > > >             3 > > > >             9 > > > > > > RA > > > >  > > > >       11.73 > > > >           39.56 > > > >       51.29 > > > >           17 > > > >             2 > > > > > > KE > > > >  > > > >          3.63 > > > >           17.70 > > > >       21.33 > > > >             7 > > > >             6 > > > > > > TOTAL > > > >                         100.00 > > > >     100.00 > > > >         100.00 > > > >     300.00 > > > >   100.00 > > > >  > >  > >  > >  > > > > Thanks & Regards, > >  Sonali > >  > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:56 PM > > @gro ups.com > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > >  > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali, the time rectified is nearly correct except as I found the SSL Sun instead of Venus giving me a time as 20.52.30. ruling planets taken on 12/01/2010; 07-11am; Ambernath. The rectified lagna as per my verification should be Moon-Guru-Rahu- Sun. The main question is what is the important planet.? if we analyse Venus dasa on the whole Venus being lord of 4 and 11, posited in the Sixth with Mercury the lord of 3,12 it would not give good results being in the sixth. The period from 1995 end(Saturn bhukti) would mark the start of hurdles. In short during Venus Dasa the native had to struggle. Sun-Sun, Sun-Moon, Sun Mars could not yield much.Sun dasa promises good results partially during Sun-Rahu & Jupiter bhukti only. Sun-Sat dasa would not prove beneficial, Sun-Ketu, Sun-Ven would be fair enough, Now the question arises why the emphasis on Sun Dasa -Rahu & Jupiter Bhukti gave good results because in the year 2004 Jupiter was transiting in > > Leo second house of the native and all the stars in Leo gave sucess with Education, career and status. In Short Dasa-Bhukti- Antara lords prove fruitful during their transits in favourable houses viz. 1,2,3,6,10,11. > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > --- On Mon, 11/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > @gro ups.com > > Monday, 11 January, 2010, 9:24 PM > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear TWji, > >  > > Note: plz read dob as 2-12-1976 > >  > > Then what according to you, should be the correct TOB ( for the same horo lajmiji has corrected TOB as 20.20) > > But , based on this TOB, 5th sub is Sa & as per KP,if sub of 5th is sig of 8/12 houses,native will have losses from Stock market. > > While actually, native is having profit from stock market although not very substantial or in the manner expected by native. > > Thus, tob of 20.20 does not hold true based on income from stock market. > > Can you/anyone else correct above tob, given the fact that calendar year 2004 was the best year so far in native’s life(from education,career, financial point of view) > >  > > > > Thanks & Regards, > >  Sonali > >  > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of TW > > Monday, January 11, 2010 7:14 PM > > @gro ups.com > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > >  > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > 1. Dob: 02 dec 176? 1976? > > If 1976 and consequently Asc Cn 02:49:05 (KPNA 23:26:41), there is no way to get money in Sun Dasa*, and so the rectified TOB is not tallied with live event. > > *Su(5,3); in star and sub Me(5,4-12). > > 2. There is also no way to calculate such figures for planet. > > In KP, significators are ranked by order of A,B,C,D & E decided by sub signification, taking into account of whether having no planet in their stars or own star or own sub, RPS (if applied) on case by case basis etc. > > Regards, > > TW > > > > @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All Respected Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > In case of a person with birth details as under: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dob: 02 dec 176 > > > > > > Tob 20.51.48( as corrected with RP method) > > > > > > Place Shujalpur(M. P.) > > > > > > Sex Male > > > > > > > > > > > > Various Most imp money incidents are observed : > > > > > > > > > > > > This tables shows how much each of the planet has contributed as > > > Sign/str/sub lord as RP (Lagn & mon position) at the most close time of > > > incident: > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > SIGN LRD > > > > > > STR LRD > > > > > > SUB > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > % > > > > > > RANK > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > 7.05 > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > 11.14 > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > > - > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > > 20.03 > > > > > > 28.15 > > > > > > > > > > > > 48.18 > > > > > > 16 > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > > 31.76 > > > > > > 9.38 > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > 43.19 > > > > > > 14 > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > > 14.85 > > > > > > 2.60 > > > > > > 15.64 > > > > > > 33.09 > > > > > > 11 > > > > > > 5 > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > 23.01 > > > > > > 18.45 > > > > > > 22.45 > > > > > > 63.91 > > > > > > 21 > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > 8.30 > > > > > > > > > > > > 0.56 > > > > > > 8.86 > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.73 > > > > > > 39.56 > > > > > > 51.29 > > > > > > 17 > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.63 > > > > > > 17.70 > > > > > > 21.33 > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > 300.00 > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From above, it appears that, ve is the most imp money giving planet.But > > > above money incidents occurred after passing of Full mahadasha of ve of 20 > > > years. > > > > > > I.e.above incidents occurred during Su mahadasha. > > > > > > If ve is supposed to be the most imp money giving planet(as appeared from > > > above table), why it failed to yield any such results during its Mahadasha > > > itself. > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Dear Ramani ji, I used astrosage online software for charts,plz clarify from where to get this “progressed Charts†& what this contain & reveal other than normal KP chart. Thanks & Regards, Sonali On Behalf Of kadavasalramani Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:22 PM Re: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET Dear Sonaliji. You are repeatedly harping on the same question as to why there was no indication of financial improvement during the entire Venus Dasa of 20 years. Venus being an important planet to give money and instead some improvement was noticed in Sun Dasa. Shri Bhaskar has given good answer to you. If you are still not satisfied, please try " Progression " method recommended by late Sri K.S.K. our Guruji. Its utility is described as follows: " Many Horoscopes in which periods running with good significations under the star and sub lord's significations in Natal chart position but quite detrimntal results of sufferings by the native are indicated by the Dasa, Bhukthi lords in the Progressed Chart. Thus the Progressed chart will reveal your exact problem. Please try the same. With best wishes, Yrs, sincy, K.S.V.Ramani ----- Original Message ----- Bhaskar Saturday, January 16, 2010 12:11 PM Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET Dear Sonali ji, // as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or every week of the month give the same type of results ? ................No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same results everyday ? // Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms of wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native.// This is again absurd expectations and not in Line. why should Venus always represent Love or marriage ? Its the natural karaka-Yes. But then its also karaka for jewels and automobiles etc.. Do You mean to say that ever body running Venus dasha will have Love affairs, marriage, wealth creations etc.. Apart from being natural karaka every planet has got its designated role to play which changes with every individual Horoscope. You must check what gives Love affairs in your Horoscope. What gives marriage in Your horoscope? here what means - Which planet and at what period. //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & nothing substantial happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest.// Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 ....) Here some commonsense is necessary and not too much astrology is required to know the why .. At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 Look at what saturn signifies. Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show great figures of wealth creations ??? and does a boy in that age concentrate on his studies in India (Or elsewhere in the world) or do his parents push him in business or profession ? Then how can we expect him to earn money during this age even if we suppose that the last two antardasha could have given him some money ? // Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his could have provided what you are looking for. Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... //Here I’m not expecting that full period of 20 years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period of 20 years must have produced substantial result// Last 5 years of his venus mahadasha I have already proved with the figures what you could have expected the native to bring in as outputs had you put him in work, instead of studies. And before that we cannot expect a boy between age 5 to 17 to work and produce wealth for us . Or do we ? I dismiss the above case as expecting absudities and illogical results at an unsuitable age from the native in question. regards, Bhaskar. , SONALI <sonali.me.2009 wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > Thanks for your input to the case. > > > > As pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give money. > > If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest amongst the planets of 20 years), > > Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms of wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native. > > During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & nothing substantial > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest. > > > > Here I’m not expecting that full period of 20 years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period of 20 years must have produced substantial result. > > > > Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Sonali > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Dear Sonali ji, I am sory but I have not yet been able to send my point across. If a native has a planet Mars who is a significator of a child in his Horoscope, then how would you expect this native to give birth to children if the Mars Mahadasha comes to him before age 15 ? Will he be married before age 15 by his parents to produce children or will he be sent to school to study ? In same manner when it comes to creation of wealth, You have yourself accepted that the boy in question was studying, then from which part of the heavens can he pick out wealth and display it , even if his Venus Mahadasha was running and Venus Mahadasha signifies wealth ? You are not trying to understand. Yes Venus certainly promises wealth creations for him, but the boy was not in business or service, then how could he create wealth ? And okay from 1ge 18 he could earn or have love affairs or marry. But did you allow him to go out and have love affairs, and marry ? or work and earn money ? If not Then how how can we expect things to happen on its own ? And between age 18 -25 when the Venus Mahadasha was ending and in its last stages, I have already proved through the significators, that he could not have earnt good wealth..due to the antardasha Lords which deny the type of wealth which you are looking for. I will once again explain in short and for full and final..before I leave this thread. 1) The planet Venus does promise wealth to the native. 2) But the Venus Mahadasha comes to him from age 5 to 25. 3) At this age nobody works , unless he is born on the road, and you too have accepted that the boy was studying, so how can we expect wealth creations from him ? 4) Between age 18-25 when he was at the last stage of Venus Mahadasha, he was not running positive antardashas, and he was also studying, so how could you expect him to earn good wealth, have love affairs, marry and bring in money ? Did you or his parents ask him to work after age 18 ? If not then from where will money come ? You are not trying to understand the simple crux of the matter, and I am unable to make you understand. Lets leave it... Bhaskar. , SONALI <sonali.me.2009 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > At the outset ,I’d like to give u thanks, for putting your valuable time to study this case. > > My pointwise reply is as under: > > > > 1.// as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// > > Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or every week of the month give the same type of results ? .................No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same results everyday ? > > Reply: I cant believe that a person of caliber like bhaskar ji has interpretated this in this narrow manner. > > Here my point is that, if ve is surely going to provide wealth as pointed out by Bhaskar ji himself. > > So the logical interpretation would be to think that during its mahadasha which if a fairly long period of 20 years,ve should’ve given wealth during the whole period AS A WHOLE, & NOT EVERYDAY/EVERY HOUR/EVERY MIN. i.e.if one measure result of Ve mahadasha as a whole, one should be in a position to conclude that ve mahadasha was favourable to the native in terms of wealth which is not the case here. > > 2. //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & nothing substantial happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest.// > > Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 ....) > > Reply: “What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry†> > Not a boy, but obviously yes , a teenager/young man of 20-25 is always expected to earn wealth ( if he is running Ve mahadasha & if ve is a strong sig of money as pointed by bhaskarji himself as its not totally abnormal for a young person to accumulate wealth in age group 20-25 atleast , if not earlier & have atleast love affairs( ve is strong sig of 5,6,3,11) if not marriage/love marriage. > > 3.At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 > > Look at what saturn signifies. > > Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 > > At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 > > Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 > > At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 > > Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 > > Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show great figures of wealth creations ??? > > Reply: during age of 5-17, we ourselves should not expect the native to earn wealth & during 18-25,dashas are not favourable to earn wealth as pointed by Bhaskar ji, > > Then what is the overall result of Ve mahadasha of 20 years if Ve is said to be a strong sig of Money in this case?? When its results are likely to be in full swing..??? > > As in words of Bhaskar ji himself: > > “But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house.. > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?†> > > > > > 4.// Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// > > In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his could have provided what you are looking for. > > Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... > > Reply: to the extent I understand KP, RP at the time of actual event must be in agreement with significators of that event based on TOB.Thus,if they dnt tally, TOB can be assumed to be incorrect. I’m not expecting the native to be a millionaire or not but if ve is a strong sig of money/wealth & he’s running through ve Mahadasha, atleast he can be assumed to have earned something more than a few thousand rupees, which he didn’t during its mahadasha. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Sonali > > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Saturday, January 16, 2010 12:11 PM > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > Dear Sonali ji, > > // as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// > > Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or every week of the month give the same type of results ? .................No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same results everyday ? > > // Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms of wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native.// > > This is again absurd expectations and not in Line. why should Venus always represent Love or marriage ? Its the natural karaka-Yes. But then its also karaka for jewels and automobiles etc.. Do You mean to say that ever body running Venus dasha will have Love affairs, marriage, wealth creations etc.. > > Apart from being natural karaka every planet has got its designated role to play which changes with every individual Horoscope. You must check what gives Love affairs in your Horoscope. What gives marriage in Your horoscope? here what means - Which planet and at what period. > > //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & nothing substantial > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest.// > > Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 ....) > > Here some commonsense is necessary and not too much astrology is required to know the why .. > > At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 > > Look at what saturn signifies. > > Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 > > At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 > > Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 > > At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 > > Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 > > Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show great figures of wealth creations ??? > > and does a boy in that age concentrate on his studies in India (Or elsewhere in the world) or do his parents push him in business or profession ? Then how can we expect him to earn money during this age even if we suppose that the last two antardasha could have given him some money ? > > // Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// > > In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his could have provided what you are looking for. > > Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... > > //Here I’m not expecting that full period of 20 years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period of 20 years must have produced substantial result// > > Last 5 years of his venus mahadasha I have already proved with the figures what you could have expected the native to bring in as outputs had you put him in work, instead of studies. And before that we cannot expect a boy between age 5 to 17 to work and produce wealth for us . Or do we ? > > I dismiss the above case as expecting absudities and illogical results at an unsuitable age from the native in question. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > , SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your input to the case. > > > > > > > > As pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give money. > > > > If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest amongst the planets of 20 years), > > > > Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms of wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native. > > > > During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & nothing substantial > > > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest. > > > > > > > > Here I’m not expecting that full period of 20 years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period of 20 years must have produced substantial result. > > > > > > > > Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Friday, January 15, 2010 1:33 AM > > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry. But what type of KP are we doing.. > > If any planet gives money or shows money or wealth creations like in this case Venus .. > > Ve 6,11 Sun 5,3 Moon 10,1,2 > > Venus is clearly to give wealth, but how can one expect venus to give money all of 20 years ? Would the antardasha Lords go to sleep till then ? > > > > But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house.. > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ? > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > <%40> , Naresh Valecha superstaar_n_v@ wrote: > > > > > > Hi Sonali, I took up the details that were put up by you and rectified the birth time accordingly.You did not mention the time of birth which has been originally recorded before correcting it. Although RP's at the time of judgement give you a clear picture of birth lagna I would like to know what time has been originally recorded before rectification was done by you. > > >  > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > SONALI sonali.me.2009@ > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > <%40> > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 11:55 AM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nareshji, > > >  > > > If you wish, I can provide you date wise incidents in native’s life to cross check whether rectified TOB is correct or not. > > >  > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > >  Sonali > > >  > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:16 AM > > > @gro ups.com > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali, Sincerely I could not understand the table and as per your table and calculations I could not follow how Venus is an Important planet during its own Dasa.Venus if you see is in the sixth house and also it is in 6-8 relation with respect to its own house, i.e if we count 2 as lagna Venus falls in the eighth, besides it is also the sixth and twelveth cuspal sublord, again it is in the star of Sun lord of 2 with Mars lord of 10th and 5. Venus is in the sub of moon afflicted by Saturn and Ketu too, Moon-ketu being together in the tenth. Note the strenght of Moon too its only 02-28 in Aries. Afflicted and weak moon in no way can give the native a good Venus Dasa.This is KP. > > > > > > Now coming to the traditional astrological part. Aries Sade-Sati (7 -1/2 yrs of Saturn) started from feb.1996-2003. When the 10th house is posited with moon and is afflicted by malefics Sani and Ketu. During Sade-Sati 7-1/2yrs of Saturns transit the native has to struggle much through the houses signified by Saturn and Moon if they are not connected with favourably. How could Venus be a chief important planet, Venus in the Sub of afflicted Moon and under the sway of Saturn's transit from 1996-2003. > > > > > >  > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > @gro ups.com > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 8:20 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Valechaji, > > >  > > > Thnx for your analysis. > > >  > > > But if your analysis is considered as correct , how ve is coming as most imp money yielding planet as evident from the table: > > > So the basic question remains unanswered. > > > Thus either TOB is uncorrect or at 20.51.48,ve must come as most imp money yielding planet so as to tally with actual incidents. > > > & if same is most imp money yielding planet, why it failed to yield the same during its full mahadasha of 20 yrs itself. > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > >  SIGN LRD > > > > > >  STR LRD > > > > > >  SUB > > > > > >  TOTAL > > > > > >  % > > > > > >  RANK > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > >                              2.04 > > > > > >          7.05 > > > > > >             2.04 > > > > > >       11.14 > > > > > >             4 > > > > > >             8 > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > >                                   -  > > > > > >       19.01 > > > > > >  > > > > > >       19.01 > > > > > >             6 > > > > > >             7 > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > >                            20.03 > > > > > >       28.15 > > > > > >  > > > > > >       48.18 > > > > > >           16 > > > > > >             3 > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > >                            31.76 > > > > > >          9.38 > > > > > >             2.04 > > > > > >       43.19 > > > > > >           14 > > > > > >             4 > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > >                            14.85 > > > > > >          2.60 > > > > > >           15.64 > > > > > >       33.09 > > > > > >           11 > > > > > >             5 > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > >                            23.01 > > > > > >       18.45 > > > > > >           22.45 > > > > > >       63.91 > > > > > >           21 > > > > > >             1 > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > >                              8.30 > > > > > >  > > > > > >             0.56 > > > > > >          8.86 > > > > > >             3 > > > > > >             9 > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > >  > > > > > >       11.73 > > > > > >           39.56 > > > > > >       51.29 > > > > > >           17 > > > > > >             2 > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > >  > > > > > >          3.63 > > > > > >           17.70 > > > > > >       21.33 > > > > > >             7 > > > > > >             6 > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > >                         100.00 > > > > > >     100.00 > > > > > >         100.00 > > > > > >     300.00 > > > > > >   100.00 > > > > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > >  Sonali > > >  > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:56 PM > > > @gro ups.com > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali, the time rectified is nearly correct except as I found the SSL Sun instead of Venus giving me a time as 20.52.30. ruling planets taken on 12/01/2010; 07-11am; Ambernath. The rectified lagna as per my verification should be Moon-Guru-Rahu- Sun. The main question is what is the important planet.? if we analyse Venus dasa on the whole Venus being lord of 4 and 11, posited in the Sixth with Mercury the lord of 3,12 it would not give good results being in the sixth. The period from 1995 end(Saturn bhukti) would mark the start of hurdles. In short during Venus Dasa the native had to struggle. Sun-Sun, Sun-Moon, Sun Mars could not yield much.Sun dasa promises good results partially during Sun-Rahu & Jupiter bhukti only. Sun-Sat dasa would not prove beneficial, Sun-Ketu, Sun-Ven would be fair enough, Now the question arises why the emphasis on Sun Dasa -Rahu & Jupiter Bhukti gave good results because in the year 2004 Jupiter was transiting in > > > Leo second house of the native and all the stars in Leo gave sucess with Education, career and status. In Short Dasa-Bhukti- Antara lords prove fruitful during their transits in favourable houses viz. 1,2,3,6,10,11. > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > --- On Mon, 11/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > @gro ups.com > > > Monday, 11 January, 2010, 9:24 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TWji, > > >  > > > Note: plz read dob as 2-12-1976 > > >  > > > Then what according to you, should be the correct TOB ( for the same horo lajmiji has corrected TOB as 20.20) > > > But , based on this TOB, 5th sub is Sa & as per KP,if sub of 5th is sig of 8/12 houses,native will have losses from Stock market. > > > While actually, native is having profit from stock market although not very substantial or in the manner expected by native. > > > Thus, tob of 20.20 does not hold true based on income from stock market. > > > Can you/anyone else correct above tob, given the fact that calendar year 2004 was the best year so far in native’s life(from education,career, financial point of view) > > >  > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > >  Sonali > > >  > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of TW > > > Monday, January 11, 2010 7:14 PM > > > @gro ups.com > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > 1. Dob: 02 dec 176? 1976? > > > If 1976 and consequently Asc Cn 02:49:05 (KPNA 23:26:41), there is no way to get money in Sun Dasa*, and so the rectified TOB is not tallied with live event. > > > *Su(5,3); in star and sub Me(5,4-12). > > > 2. There is also no way to calculate such figures for planet. > > > In KP, significators are ranked by order of A,B,C,D & E decided by sub signification, taking into account of whether having no planet in their stars or own star or own sub, RPS (if applied) on case by case basis etc. > > > Regards, > > > TW > > > > > > @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All Respected Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In case of a person with birth details as under: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dob: 02 dec 176 > > > > > > > > Tob 20.51.48( as corrected with RP method) > > > > > > > > Place Shujalpur(M. P.) > > > > > > > > Sex Male > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Various Most imp money incidents are observed : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This tables shows how much each of the planet has contributed as > > > > Sign/str/sub lord as RP (Lagn & mon position) at the most close time of > > > > incident: > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > > > SIGN LRD > > > > > > > > STR LRD > > > > > > > > SUB > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > % > > > > > > > > RANK > > > > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > 7.05 > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > 11.14 > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > > > > 20.03 > > > > > > > > 28.15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 48.18 > > > > > > > > 16 > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > > > > 31.76 > > > > > > > > 9.38 > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > 43.19 > > > > > > > > 14 > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > > > > 14.85 > > > > > > > > 2.60 > > > > > > > > 15.64 > > > > > > > > 33.09 > > > > > > > > 11 > > > > > > > > 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > > > 23.01 > > > > > > > > 18.45 > > > > > > > > 22.45 > > > > > > > > 63.91 > > > > > > > > 21 > > > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > > > 8.30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0.56 > > > > > > > > 8.86 > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.73 > > > > > > > > 39.56 > > > > > > > > 51.29 > > > > > > > > 17 > > > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.63 > > > > > > > > 17.70 > > > > > > > > 21.33 > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > 300.00 > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From above, it appears that, ve is the most imp money giving planet.But > > > > above money incidents occurred after passing of Full mahadasha of ve of 20 > > > > years. > > > > > > > > I.e.above incidents occurred during Su mahadasha. > > > > > > > > If ve is supposed to be the most imp money giving planet(as appeared from > > > > above table), why it failed to yield any such results during its Mahadasha > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Dear Sonali ji , What type of perverted expectations are we keeping from a lad who is studying just because his Dasha Lord in his childhood period is signifying wealth ? And what type of baseless illogical examples are you presenting to just justify your points, I am really fazed out by now.. I have told you in my previous mail too, that if a boy is running a dasha whose Lord signifies the 5th house, then do you pxect the boy if he is under age 15, to go out and make babies ? Or if a man in age of 80 is running a dasha of a planet which signifies marriage, then do you think that he will go out and get married ? We need some commonsense on astrology, and astrology is not to be used in a foolish manner in the way suggested. If a planet signifies marriage and it comes as a dasha ord at age 12 to a child, do you expect the planet to draw him to his marriage somehow ? HaHa. What type of astrology are you into ? from where have you learnt such type of knowledge to associate planets with events at illogical ages ??? Bhaskar. -- In , SONALI <sonali.me.2009 wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > Absolutely great reason.. > > > > That person could’nt able to accumulate wealth even during the best period of tht planet as he was “busy in his studiesâ€â€¦ > > > > Based on this, if death time/period of a person comes, tht person will not die , provided he/she is “busyâ€. & he/she can be “busy†in anything like,studies,business or anything else. > > Only thing required is that he/she should be busy. > > Then whats the power of any planet if it cant make people work according to it. > > Had the planet is really sig of wealth & in its best period( madadasha)..it should drawn the native anyhow into acculumulating wealth,either through completion of studies at an earlier age or anyhow. > > Atleast think of a reason which no one deny at first place. > > > > Another example is tht a person with exact horo of Sachin Tendulkar …has to be Tendulkar himself.. & no body else…if he’s anyone else.. > > > > Bhaskar ji will tell..that as he was “busy in studies†..he could’nt become Tendulkar. > > > > Ok..just simple answer a simple question raised by Bhaskar ji himself: > > > > “But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house.. > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?†> > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Sonali > > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Monday, January 18, 2010 9:06 PM > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > Dear Sonali ji, > > I am sory but I have not yet been able to send my point across. > > If a native has a planet Mars who is a significator of a child in his > Horoscope, then how would you expect this native to give birth to > children if the Mars Mahadasha comes to him before age 15 ? Will he be > married before age 15 by his parents to produce children or will he be > sent to school to study ? > > In same manner when it comes to creation of wealth, You have yourself > accepted that the boy in question was studying, then from which part of > the heavens can he pick out wealth and display it , even if his Venus > Mahadasha was running and Venus Mahadasha signifies wealth ? > > You are not trying to understand. Yes Venus certainly promises wealth > creations for him, but the boy was not in business or service, then how > could he create wealth ? And okay from 1ge 18 he could earn or have love > affairs or marry. But did you allow him to go out and have love affairs, > and marry ? or work and earn money ? If not Then how how can we expect > things to happen on its own ? > > And between age 18 -25 when the Venus Mahadasha was ending and in its > last stages, I have already proved through the significators, that he > could not have earnt good wealth..due to the antardasha Lords which deny > the type of wealth which you are looking for. > > I will once again explain in short and for full and final..before I > leave this thread. > > 1) The planet Venus does promise wealth to the native. > 2) But the Venus Mahadasha comes to him from age 5 to 25. > 3) At this age nobody works , unless he is born on the road, and you too > have accepted that the boy was studying, so how can we expect wealth > creations from him ? > 4) Between age 18-25 when he was at the last stage of Venus Mahadasha, > he was not running positive antardashas, and he was also studying, so > how could you expect him to earn good wealth, have love affairs, marry > and bring in money ? Did you or his parents ask him to work after age 18 > ? If not then from where will money come ? > > You are not trying to understand the simple crux of the matter, and I am > unable to make you understand. > > Lets leave it... > > Bhaskar. > > <%40> , SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > At the outset ,I’d like to give u thanks, for putting your > valuable time to study this case. > > > > My pointwise reply is as under: > > > > > > > > 1.// as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give > money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full > mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the > longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// > > > > Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a > planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole > dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain > happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for > whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet > the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change > even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every > week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or > every week of the month give the same type of results ? > ................No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in > line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same > results everyday ? > > > > Reply: I cant believe that a person of caliber like bhaskar ji has > interpretated this in this narrow manner. > > > > Here my point is that, if ve is surely going to provide wealth as > pointed out by Bhaskar ji himself. > > > > So the logical interpretation would be to think that during its > mahadasha which if a fairly long period of 20 years,ve should’ve > given wealth during the whole period AS A WHOLE, & NOT EVERYDAY/EVERY > HOUR/EVERY MIN. i.e.if one measure result of Ve mahadasha as a whole, > one should be in a position to conclude that ve mahadasha was favourable > to the native in terms of wealth which is not the case here. > > > > 2. //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing > happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his > studies & nothing substantial happened related with ve. If ve is > considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a > period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must > have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to > be the strongest.// > > > > Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 > do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have > happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We > are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples > of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 > ...) > > > > Reply: â€Å"What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 do ? Earn > wealth, and have love affairs and marry†> > > > Not a boy, but obviously yes , a teenager/young man of 20-25 is always > expected to earn wealth ( if he is running Ve mahadasha & if ve is a > strong sig of money as pointed by bhaskarji himself as its not totally > abnormal for a young person to accumulate wealth in age group 20-25 > atleast , if not earlier & have atleast love affairs( ve is strong sig > of 5,6,3,11) if not marriage/love marriage. > > > > 3.At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 > > > > Look at what saturn signifies. > > > > Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 > > > > At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 > > > > Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 > > > > At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 > > > > Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 > > > > Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show > great figures of wealth creations ??? > > > > Reply: during age of 5-17, we ourselves should not expect the native > to earn wealth & during 18-25,dashas are not favourable to earn wealth > as pointed by Bhaskar ji, > > > > Then what is the overall result of Ve mahadasha of 20 years if Ve is > said to be a strong sig of Money in this case?? When its results are > likely to be in full swing..??? > > > > As in words of Bhaskar ji himself: > > > > â€Å"But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money > whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests > the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to > ownership of the 2nd house.. > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No > planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets > represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?†> > > > > > > > > > > > 4.// Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an > important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the > time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but > same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// > > > > In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in > an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 > could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it > will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a > teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his > could have provided what you are looking for. > > > > Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to > understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn > millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... > > > > Reply: to the extent I understand KP, RP at the time of actual event > must be in agreement with significators of that event based on > TOB.Thus,if they dnt tally, TOB can be assumed to be incorrect. > I’m not expecting the native to be a millionaire or not but if ve > is a strong sig of money/wealth & he’s running through ve > Mahadasha, atleast he can be assumed to have earned something more than > a few thousand rupees, which he didn’t during its mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > <%40> [ <%40> ] > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Saturday, January 16, 2010 12:11 PM > > <%40> > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali ji, > > > > // as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give > money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full > mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the > longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// > > > > Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a > planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole > dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain > happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for > whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet > the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change > even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every > week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or > every week of the month give the same type of results ? > ................No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in > line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same > results everyday ? > > > > // Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms > of wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native.// > > > > This is again absurd expectations and not in Line. why should Venus > always represent Love or marriage ? Its the natural karaka-Yes. But then > its also karaka for jewels and automobiles etc.. Do You mean to say that > ever body running Venus dasha will have Love affairs, marriage, wealth > creations etc.. > > > > Apart from being natural karaka every planet has got its designated > role to play which changes with every individual Horoscope. You must > check what gives Love affairs in your Horoscope. What gives marriage in > Your horoscope? here what means - Which planet and at what period. > > > > //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened > to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & > nothing substantial > > > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth > & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which > can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this > the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest.// > > > > Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 > do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have > happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We > are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples > of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 > ...) > > > > Here some commonsense is necessary and not too much astrology is > required to know the why .. > > > > At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 > > > > Look at what saturn signifies. > > > > Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 > > > > At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 > > > > Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 > > > > At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 > > > > Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 > > > > Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show > great figures of wealth creations ??? > > > > and does a boy in that age concentrate on his studies in India (Or > elsewhere in the world) or do his parents push him in business or > profession ? Then how can we expect him to earn money during this age > even if we suppose that the last two antardasha could have given him > some money ? > > > > // Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important > planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of > incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same > when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// > > > > In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in > an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 > could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it > will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a > teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his > could have provided what you are looking for. > > > > Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to > understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn > millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... > > > > //Here I’m not expecting that full period of 20 > years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period > of 20 years must have produced substantial result// > > > > Last 5 years of his venus mahadasha I have already proved with the > figures what you could have expected the native to bring in as outputs > had you put him in work, instead of studies. And before that we cannot > expect a boy between age 5 to 17 to work and produce wealth for us . Or > do we ? > > > > I dismiss the above case as expecting absudities and illogical results > at an unsuitable age from the native in question. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > <%40> , SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your input to the case. > > > > > > > > > > > > As pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give > money. > > > > > > If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha > means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest > amongst the planets of 20 years), > > > > > > Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms of > wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native. > > > > > > During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened > to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & > nothing substantial > > > > > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for > wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years > ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to > the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here I’m not expecting that full period of 20 > years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period > of 20 years must have produced substantial result. > > > > > > > > > > > > Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important > planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of > incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same > when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> [ <%40> ] > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > Friday, January 15, 2010 1:33 AM > > > <%40> > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry. But what type of KP are we doing.. > > > If any planet gives money or shows money or wealth creations like in > this case Venus .. > > > Ve 6,11 Sun 5,3 Moon 10,1,2 > > > Venus is clearly to give wealth, but how can one expect venus to > give money all of 20 years ? Would the antardasha Lords go to sleep till > then ? > > > > > > But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever > its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th > and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership > of the 2nd house.. > > > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No > planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets > represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ? > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > <%40> > <%40> , Naresh Valecha superstaar_n_v@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali,ÃÆ'‚ I took up the details that were put up by > you and rectified the birth time accordingly.You did not mention the > time of birth which has been originally recorded before correcting > it.ÃÆ'‚ Although RP's at the time of judgement give you a clear > picture of birth lagna IÃÆ'‚ would like to know what time has > been originally recorded before rectification was done by you. > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > SONALI sonali.me.2009@ > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > <%40> > <%40> > > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 11:55 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nareshji, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > If you wish, I can provide you date wise incidents in > nativeÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢s life to cross check whether rectified > TOB is correct or not. > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ Sonali > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou > ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > > Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:16 AM > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali, Sincerely IÃÆ'‚ could not understand the table > andÃÆ'‚ as per your table and calculationsÃÆ'‚ I could not > follow how Venus isÃÆ'‚ anÃÆ'‚ Important planet during its > own Dasa.Venus if you see is in the sixth house and also itÃÆ'‚ > is in 6-8 relation with respect to its own house, i.e if we count 2 as > lagna Venus falls in the eighth, besides it is also the sixth and > twelveth cuspal sublord, again it is in the star of Sun lord of 2 with > Mars lord of 10th and 5. Venus is in the sub of moon afflicted by Saturn > and Ketu too, Moon-ketu being together in the tenth. Note the strenght > of Moon too its only 02-28 in Aries.ÃÆ'‚ Afflicted and weak moon > in no way can give the native a good Venus Dasa.This is KP. > > > > > > > > Now coming to the traditional astrological part. Aries Sade-Sati > (7 -1/2 yrs of Saturn) started from feb.1996-2003. When the 10th house > is posited with moon and isÃÆ'‚ afflicted by malefics Sani and > Ketu. During Sade-Sati 7-1/2yrs of Saturns transit the native has to > struggle much through the houses signified by Saturn and Moon if they > are not connected with favourably.ÃÆ'‚ How could Venus be a chief > important planet, Venus in the Sub of afflicted Moon and under the sway > of Saturn's transitÃÆ'‚ from 1996-2003. > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 8:20 PM > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Valechaji, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Thnx for your analysis. > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > But if your analysis is considered as correct , how ve is coming > as most imp money yielding planet as evident from the table: > > > > So the basic question remains unanswered. > > > > Thus either TOB is uncorrect or at 20.51.48,ve must come as most > imp money yielding planet so as to tally with actual incidents. > > > > & if same is most imp money yielding planet, why it failed to > yield the same during its full mahadasha of 20 yrs itself. > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ SIGN LRD > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ STR LRD > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ SUB > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ TOTAL > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ % > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ RANK > > > > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > 2.04 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 7.05 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 2.04 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 11.14 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 4 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 8 > > > > 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ÃÆ'‚ 11 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 23.01 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 18.45 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 22.45 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 63.91 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 21 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > 8.30 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 0.56 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 8.86 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 3 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 11.73 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 39.56 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 51.29 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 17 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 3.63 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 17.70 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 21.33 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 7 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 100.00 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 100.00 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 100.00 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 300.00 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 100.00 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ Sonali > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou > ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > > Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:56 PM > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali, the time rectified isÃÆ'‚ nearly correct except > as I found the SSL Sun instead of Venus giving me a time as 20.52.30. > ruling planets taken on 12/01/2010; 07-11am; Ambernath. The rectified > lagna as per my verification should be Moon-Guru-Rahu- Sun. The main > question is what is the important planet.? if we analyse Venus dasa on > the whole Venus being lord of 4 and 11, posited in the Sixth with > Mercury the lord of 3,12 it wouldÃÆ'‚ not give good results being > in the sixth. TheÃÆ'‚ period from 1995 end(Saturn bhukti) would > mark the start of hurdles. In short during Venus Dasa the native had to > struggle. Sun-Sun, Sun-Moon, Sun Mars could not yield much.Sun dasa > promises good resultsÃÆ'‚ partiallyÃÆ'‚ during > Sun-Rahu & Jupiter bhukti only. Sun-Sat dasa would not prove beneficial, > Sun-Ketu, Sun-VenÃÆ'‚ wouldÃÆ'‚ be fair enough,ÃÆ'‚ > Now the question arises why the emphasis on Sun Dasa -Rahu & Jupiter > Bhukti gave good results because in the year 2004 Jupiter was transiting > in > > > > Leo second house of the native and all the stars in Leo gave > sucess with Education, career and status. In Short Dasa-Bhukti- Antara > lordsÃÆ'‚ prove fruitful during their transits in favourable > houses viz. 1,2,3,6,10,11. > > > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 11/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Monday, 11 January, 2010, 9:24 PM > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TWji, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Note: plz read dob as 2-12-1976 > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Then what according to you, should be the correct TOB ( for the > same horo lajmiji has corrected TOB as 20.20) > > > > But , based on this TOB, 5th sub is Sa & as per KP,if sub of 5th > is sig of 8/12 houses,native will have losses from Stock market. > > > > While actually, native is having profit from stock market although > not very substantial or in the manner expected by native. > > > > Thus, tob of 20.20 does not hold true based on income from stock > market. > > > > Can you/anyone else correct above tob, given the fact that > calendar year 2004 was the best year so far in > nativeÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢s life(from education,career, financial > point of view) > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ Sonali > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou > ps.com] On Behalf Of TW > > > > Monday, January 11, 2010 7:14 PM > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > 1. Dob: 02 dec 176? 1976? > > > > If 1976 and consequently Asc Cn 02:49:05 (KPNA 23:26:41), there is > no way to get money in Sun Dasa*, and so the rectified TOB is not > tallied with live event. > > > > *Su(5,3); in star and sub Me(5,4-12). > > > > 2. There is also no way to calculate such figures for planet. > > > > In KP, significators are ranked by order of A,B,C,D & E decided by > sub signification, taking into account of whether having no planet in > their stars or own star or own sub, RPS (if applied) on case by case > basis etc. > > > > Regards, > > > > TW > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All Respected Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In case of a person with birth details as under: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dob: 02 dec 176 > > > > > > > > > > Tob 20.51.48( as corrected with RP method) > > > > > > > > > > Place Shujalpur(M. P.) > > > > > > > > > > Sex Male > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Various Most imp money incidents are observed : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This tables shows how much each of the planet has contributed as > > > > > Sign/str/sub lord as RP (Lagn & mon position) at the most close > time of > > > > > incident: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > > > > > SIGN LRD > > > > > > > > > > STR LRD > > > > > > > > > > SUB > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > > > % > > > > > > > > > > RANK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > 7.05 > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > 11.14 > > > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > > > > > > 20.03 > > > > > > > > > > 28.15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 48.18 > > > > > > > > > > 16 > > > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > > > > > > 31.76 > > > > > > > > > > 9.38 > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > 43.19 > > > > > > > > > > 14 > > > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > > > > > > 14.85 > > > > > > > > > > 2.60 > > > > > > > > > > 15.64 > > > > > > > > > > 33.09 > > > > > > > > > > 11 > > > > > > > > > > 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > > > > > 23.01 > > > > > > > > > > 18.45 > > > > > > > > > > 22.45 > > > > > > > > > > 63.91 > > > > > > > > > > 21 > > > > > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > > > > > 8.30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0.56 > > > > > > > > > > 8.86 > > > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.73 > > > > > > > > > > 39.56 > > > > > > > > > > 51.29 > > > > > > > > > > 17 > > > > > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.63 > > > > > > > > > > 17.70 > > > > > > > > > > 21.33 > > > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > 300.00 > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From above, it appears that, ve is the most imp money giving > planet.But > > > > > above money incidents occurred after passing of Full mahadasha > of ve of 20 > > > > > years. > > > > > > > > > > I.e.above incidents occurred during Su mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > If ve is supposed to be the most imp money giving planet(as > appeared from > > > > > above table), why it failed to yield any such results during its > Mahadasha > > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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