khullar ayanamsa

January 17, 2010

respected Tin Win ji and other members,

today i was going through an article on btr by s.p. khullar on the net

and found it little interesting but in the example given he had used khullar

ayanamsa which is not given in my s/w. kindly throw some light as to how to

custumize this ayanamsa (what value to deduct/add from kpna) for calculation

purpose. Thanks in advance

Regards

Amit

January 18, 2010

Khullar Ayanamsa

1. The Khullar Ayanamsa is generally calculated by the following formula:

AyanKP = (50.2388475/3600)*((YR-292)+(261/365)+(((MN-1)*30+DY)/365))

YR stands for year

MN stands for Month

DY stands for Day

2. It is generally the same as the KP straight line (Adjusted) Ayanamsa (KPSTLA) which is supported by KPAstro initial version to 3.5.

KPSTLA = T*P/3600

where

T = Year for calculation - 291 (zero ayanamsa year for KP Ayanamsa)

P = Newcomb's annual precession rate = 50.2388475 sec (for KP Ayanamsa)

Note: For T as a fractional/decimal year taking days between required date and 15th April, it gives up to date ayanamsa value.

/message/30575

3. For example, for Tony Blair DOB May 6th 1953, Khullar ayanamsa 23:11:40

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6748971/Blair-Tony

3.1. AyanKP = (50.2388475/3600)*((YR-292)+(261/365)+(((MN-1)*30+DY)/365))

(YR-292)+(261/365) = (1953-292)+0.715068= 1639.715068 i.e. as the original formula gives the value for April 15, one more year than 291 is subtracted and then 261/365 for April 15 to December 31 is added in order to get January 1st value.

{(MN-1)*30+DY)}/365= {(5-1)*30+6}/365=126/365=0.345205, i.e. the decimal year from January 1st to May 6th.

1639.715068+0.345205= 1.060273

AyanKP = (50.2388475/3600)*(1.060273)= 23:11:40 (Khullar ayanamsa)

3.2. KPSTLA = T*P/3600

3.2.1. (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662*50.2388475/3600=23:11:37 for April 15th 1953

Ayanamsa value for April 15th to May 6th= 50.2388475 (21/365)= 3 sec

KPSTLA = 23:11:37 + 00:00:03= 23:11:40 for May 6th 1953

3.2.2. By taking a decimal year from April 15th to May 6th (1662+21/365=1662.0575),

KPSTLA = (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662.0575*50.2388475/3600= 23:11:40

4. Comparison of Ayanamsa Values (As of 1st Jan in D-M-S)

Year

KPNA

KPSTLA

LAHIRI*

KPSTLA

minus

KPNA

Lahiri

minus

STLA

1000

09-50-25

09-53-25

09-55-12

0-3-00

0-1-47

1800

20-58-33

21-03-16

21-03-45

0-4-43

0-0-29

1850

21-40-24

21-45-08

21-45-37

0-4-44

0-0-29

1900

22-22 16

22-27-00

22-27-56

0-4-44

0-0-56

1950

23-04-08

23-08-52

23-09-27

0-4-48

0-0-35

2000

23-46-01

23-50-44

23-51-11

0-4-43

0-0-27

2010

23-54-23

23-59-21

24-00-04

0-4-58

0-1-43

3000

37-45-33

37-48-03

37-51-26

0-2-30

0-3-23

KPNA = KP New Ayanamsa of 2003

* As per Astraura SW

Note: KPSTLA or Khullar Ayanamsa is closed to Lahiri but

not to KPNA or KPOA (KP Old Ayanamsa).

5. The Khullar Ayanamsa is now an option in Astracadabra and KCIL supporting True Astrology SW.

6. This ayanamsa may be added to the list of ayanamsas in the Web and SWs:

Aldebaran, Babylonian (Huber), Babylonian (Kugler 1), Babylonian (Kugler 2), Babylonian (Kugler 3), Babylonian (Mercia), JN Bhasin, Chandra-Hiri, DeLuce, Deva-datta, Dhira, Djwhal Khoo (Khul), Drik (Thiru Ganithan), Fagan-Bradley (Fagan), Galactic Center, Hipparchos, Jagannatha, Krushna, KP (Krishnamurti), KP Straight Line, KP Straight Line (Adjusted), Lahiri (Chitrapaksha), True Chitrapaksha, Larry Ely, Raman , Rosicrucian, Savana, Sassanian, Takra I, Takra II, Usha-Shashi, Tarun Chopra, Yuketswar, Mod. Yuketswar, Vakya, Wilhelm Ardra, zeta Pisces,…..

, "Amit" <amitchauhan05 wrote:>> respected Tin Win ji and other members,> today i was going through an article on btr by s.p. khullar on the net and found it little interesting but in the example given he had used khullar ayanamsa which is not given in my s/w. kindly throw some light as to how to custumize this ayanamsa (what value to deduct/add from kpna) for calculation purpose. Thanks in advance> Regards> Amit>

January 19, 2010

Dear Shri TWji,

I understand that Shri Khullar has published Cuspal Interlink

system. Is it replica of KB System by Shri K.Baskaran

of Madurai or it is different. Could you find out any difference between the two, Sir? Where this book is

available?

Regards,

K.S.V.Ramani

-

TW

Monday, January 18, 2010 9:40 PM

Re: khullar ayanamsa

Khullar Ayanamsa

1. The Khullar Ayanamsa is generally calculated by the following formula:

AyanKP = (50.2388475/3600)*((YR-292)+(261/365)+(((MN-1)*30+DY)/365))

YR stands for year

MN stands for Month

DY stands for Day

2. It is generally the same as the KP straight line (Adjusted) Ayanamsa (KPSTLA) which is supported by KPAstro initial version to 3.5.

KPSTLA = T*P/3600

where

T = Year for calculation - 291 (zero ayanamsa year for KP Ayanamsa)

P = Newcomb's annual precession rate = 50.2388475 sec (for KP Ayanamsa)

Note: For T as a fractional/decimal year taking days between required date and 15th April, it gives up to date ayanamsa value.

/message/30575

3. For example, for Tony Blair DOB May 6th 1953, Khullar ayanamsa 23:11:40

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6748971/Blair-Tony

3.1. AyanKP = (50.2388475/3600)*((YR-292)+(261/365)+(((MN-1)*30+DY)/365))

(YR-292)+(261/365) = (1953-292)+0.715068= 1639.715068 i.e. as the original formula gives the value for April 15, one more year than 291 is subtracted and then 261/365 for April 15 to December 31 is added in order to get January 1st value.

{(MN-1)*30+DY)}/365= {(5-1)*30+6}/365=126/365=0.345205, i.e. the decimal year from January 1st to May 6th.

1639.715068+0.345205= 1.060273

AyanKP = (50.2388475/3600)*(1.060273)= 23:11:40 (Khullar ayanamsa)

3.2. KPSTLA = T*P/3600

3.2.1. (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662*50.2388475/3600=23:11:37 for April 15th 1953

Ayanamsa value for April 15th to May 6th= 50.2388475 (21/365)= 3 sec

KPSTLA = 23:11:37 + 00:00:03= 23:11:40 for May 6th 1953

3.2.2. By taking a decimal year from April 15th to May 6th (1662+21/365=1662.0575),

KPSTLA = (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662.0575*50.2388475/3600= 23:11:40

4. Comparison of Ayanamsa Values (As of 1st Jan in D-M-S)

Year

KPNA

KPSTLA

LAHIRI*

KPSTLA

minus

KPNA

Lahiri

minus

STLA

1000

09-50-25

09-53-25

09-55-12

0-3-00

0-1-47

1800

20-58-33

21-03-16

21-03-45

0-4-43

0-0-29

1850

21-40-24

21-45-08

21-45-37

0-4-44

0-0-29

1900

22-22 16

22-27-00

22-27-56

0-4-44

0-0-56

1950

23-04-08

23-08-52

23-09-27

0-4-48

0-0-35

2000

23-46-01

23-50-44

23-51-11

0-4-43

0-0-27

2010

23-54-23

23-59-21

24-00-04

0-4-58

0-1-43

3000

37-45-33

37-48-03

37-51-26

0-2-30

0-3-23

KPNA = KP New Ayanamsa of 2003

* As per Astraura SW

Note: KPSTLA or Khullar Ayanamsa is closed to Lahiri but

not to KPNA or KPOA (KP Old Ayanamsa).

5. The Khullar Ayanamsa is now an option in Astracadabra and KCIL supporting True Astrology SW.

6. This ayanamsa may be added to the list of ayanamsas in the Web and SWs:

Aldebaran, Babylonian (Huber), Babylonian (Kugler 1), Babylonian (Kugler 2), Babylonian (Kugler 3), Babylonian (Mercia), JN Bhasin, Chandra-Hiri, DeLuce, Deva-datta, Dhira, Djwhal Khoo (Khul), Drik (Thiru Ganithan), Fagan-Bradley (Fagan), Galactic Center, Hipparchos, Jagannatha, Krushna, KP (Krishnamurti), KP Straight Line, KP Straight Line (Adjusted), Lahiri (Chitrapaksha), True Chitrapaksha, Larry Ely, Raman , Rosicrucian, Savana, Sassanian, Takra I, Takra II, Usha-Shashi, Tarun Chopra, Yuketswar, Mod. Yuketswar, Vakya, Wilhelm Ardra, zeta Pisces,…..

, "Amit" <amitchauhan05 wrote:>> respected Tin Win ji and other members,> today i was going through an article on btr by s.p. khullar on the net and found it little interesting but in the example given he had used khullar ayanamsa which is not given in my s/w. kindly throw some light as to how to custumize this ayanamsa (what value to deduct/add from kpna) for calculation purpose. Thanks in advance> Regards> Amit>

January 19, 2010

Dear TinWin,

In most formulae like KPOld, KPNA ,kuller there is no weitage for the pression rate with respet to number of days is given. We say only annual precession , rate of change of annual precession etc but it is for how may days is not clear(365 or 365.?????? or else). It looks like a semi empherical formula.If you workout based on no of days basis the result will vary.

You may comment above.

GOOD LUCK!!

D.Senthil--- On Mon, 1/18/10, TW <tw853 wrote:

TW <tw853 Re: khullar ayanamsa Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 8:10 AM

Khullar Ayanamsa

1. The Khullar Ayanamsa is generally calculated by the following formula:

AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*((YR- 292)+(261/ 365)+(((MN- 1)*30+DY) /365))

YR stands for year

MN stands for Month

DY stands for Day

2. It is generally the same as the KP straight line (Adjusted) Ayanamsa (KPSTLA) which is supported by KPAstro initial version to 3.5.

KPSTLA = T*P/3600

where

T = Year for calculation - 291 (zero ayanamsa year for KP Ayanamsa)

P = Newcomb's annual precession rate = 50.2388475 sec (for KP Ayanamsa)

Note: For T as a fractional/decimal year taking days between required date and 15th April, it gives up to date ayanamsa value.

http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 30575

3. For example, for Tony Blair DOB May 6th 1953, Khullar ayanamsa 23:11:40

http://www.scribd. com/doc/6748971/ Blair-

3.1. AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*((YR- 292)+(261/ 365)+(((MN- 1)*30+DY) /365))

(YR-292)+(261/ 365) = (1953-292)+0. 715068= 1639.715068 i.e. as the original formula gives the value for April 15, one more year than 291 is subtracted and then 261/365 for April 15 to December 31 is added in order to get January 1st value.

{(MN-1)*30+DY) }/365= {(5-1)*30+6} /365=126/ 365=0.345205, i.e. the decimal year from January 1st to May 6th.

1639.715068+ 0.345205= 1.060273

AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*(1. 060273)= 23:11:40 (Khullar ayanamsa)

3.2. KPSTLA = T*P/3600

3.2.1. (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662*50.2388475/ 3600=23:11: 37 for April 15th 1953

Ayanamsa value for April 15th to May 6th= 50.2388475 (21/365)= 3 sec

KPSTLA = 23:11:37 + 00:00:03= 23:11:40 for May 6th 1953

3.2.2. By taking a decimal year from April 15th to May 6th (1662+21/365= 1662.0575) ,

KPSTLA = (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662.0575*50. 2388475/3600= 23:11:40

4. Comparison of Ayanamsa Values (As of 1st Jan in D-M-S)

Year

KPNA

KPSTLA

LAHIRI*

KPSTLA

minus

KPNA

Lahiri

minus

STLA

1000

09-50-25

09-53-25

09-55-12

0-3-00

0-1-47

1800

20-58-33

21-03-16

21-03-45

0-4-43

0-0-29

1850

21-40-24

21-45-08

21-45-37

0-4-44

0-0-29

1900

22-22 16

22-27-00

22-27-56

0-4-44

0-0-56

1950

23-04-08

23-08-52

23-09-27

0-4-48

0-0-35

2000

23-46-01

23-50-44

23-51-11

0-4-43

0-0-27

2010

23-54-23

23-59-21

24-00-04

0-4-58

0-1-43

3000

37-45-33

37-48-03

37-51-26

0-2-30

0-3-23

KPNA = KP New Ayanamsa of 2003

* As per Astraura SW

Note: KPSTLA or Khullar Ayanamsa is closed to Lahiri but

not to KPNA or KPOA (KP Old Ayanamsa).

5. The Khullar Ayanamsa is now an option in Astracadabra and KCIL supporting True Astrology SW.

6. This ayanamsa may be added to the list of ayanamsas in the Web and SWs:

Aldebaran, Babylonian (Huber), Babylonian (Kugler 1), Babylonian (Kugler 2), Babylonian (Kugler 3), Babylonian (Mercia), JN Bhasin, Chandra-Hiri, DeLuce, Deva-datta, Dhira, Djwhal Khoo (Khul), Drik (Thiru Ganithan), Fagan-Bradley (Fagan), Galactic Center, Hipparchos, Jagannatha, Krushna, KP (Krishnamurti) , KP Straight Line, KP Straight Line (Adjusted), Lahiri (Chitrapaksha) , True Chitrapaksha, Larry Ely, Raman , Rosicrucian, Savana, Sassanian, Takra I, Takra II, Usha-Shashi, Tarun Chopra, Yuketswar, Mod. Yuketswar, Vakya, Wilhelm Ardra, zeta Pisces,â€¦..

@gro ups.com, "Amit" <amitchauhan05@ ...> wrote:>> respected Tin Win ji and other members,> today i was going through an article on btr by s.p. khullar on the net and found it little interesting but in the example given he had used khullar ayanamsa which is not given in my s/w. kindly throw some light as to how to custumize this ayanamsa (what value to deduct/add from kpna) for calculation purpose. Thanks in advance> Regards> Amit>

January 20, 2010

Dear Mr. Ramani ji,

The main difference is using cuspal interlinks by 'sub' in KB and 'sub sub' in

KCIL.

Regards,

TW

, " kadavasalramani " <kadavasalramani

wrote:

>

> Dear Shri TWji,

>

> I understand that Shri Khullar has published Cuspal Interlink

> system. Is it replica of KB System by Shri K.Baskaran

> of Madurai or it is different. Could you find out any difference between the

two, Sir? Where this book is

> available?

>

> Regards,

>

> K.S.V.Ramani

> -

> TW

>

> Monday, January 18, 2010 9:40 PM

> Re: khullar ayanamsa

>

> Khullar Ayanamsa

>

> 1. The Khullar Ayanamsa is generally calculated by the following formula:

>

> AyanKP = (50.2388475/3600)*((YR-292)+(261/365)+(((MN-1)*30+DY)/365))

>

> YR stands for year

>

> MN stands for Month

>

> DY stands for Day

>

> 2. It is generally the same as the KP straight line (Adjusted) Ayanamsa

(KPSTLA) which is supported by KPAstro initial version to 3.5.

>

> KPSTLA = T*P/3600

>

> where

>

> T = Year for calculation - 291 (zero ayanamsa year for KP Ayanamsa)

>

> P = Newcomb's annual precession rate = 50.2388475 sec (for KP Ayanamsa)

>

> Note: For T as a fractional/decimal year taking days between required date

and 15th April, it gives up to date ayanamsa value.

>

> /message/30575

>

> 3. For example, for Tony Blair DOB May 6th 1953, Khullar ayanamsa 23:11:40

>

> http://www.scribd.com/doc/6748971/Blair-Tony

>

> 3.1. AyanKP = (50.2388475/3600)*((YR-292)+(261/365)+(((MN-1)*30+DY)/365))

>

> (YR-292)+(261/365) = (1953-292)+0.715068= 1639.715068 i.e. as the original

formula gives the value for April 15, one more year than 291 is subtracted and

then 261/365 for April 15 to December 31 is added in order to get January 1st

value.

>

> {(MN-1)*30+DY)}/365= {(5-1)*30+6}/365=126/365=0.345205, i.e. the decimal

year from January 1st to May 6th.

>

> 1639.715068+0.345205= 1.060273

>

> AyanKP = (50.2388475/3600)*(1.060273)= 23:11:40 (Khullar ayanamsa)

>

> 3.2. KPSTLA = T*P/3600

>

> 3.2.1. (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662*50.2388475/3600=23:11:37 for April

15th 1953

>

> Ayanamsa value for April 15th to May 6th= 50.2388475 (21/365)= 3 sec

>

> KPSTLA = 23:11:37 + 00:00:03= 23:11:40 for May 6th 1953

>

> 3.2.2. By taking a decimal year from April 15th to May 6th

(1662+21/365=1662.0575),

>

> KPSTLA = (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662.0575*50.2388475/3600= 23:11:40

>

> 4. Comparison of Ayanamsa Values (As of 1st Jan in D-M-S)

>

> Year

> KPNA

> KPSTLA

> LAHIRI*

> KPSTLA

>

> minus

>

> KPNA

> Lahiri

>

> minus

>

> STLA

>

> 1000

> 09-50-25

> 09-53-25

> 09-55-12

> 0-3-00

> 0-1-47

>

> 1800

> 20-58-33

> 21-03-16

> 21-03-45

> 0-4-43

> 0-0-29

>

> 1850

> 21-40-24

> 21-45-08

> 21-45-37

> 0-4-44

> 0-0-29

>

> 1900

> 22-22 16

> 22-27-00

> 22-27-56

> 0-4-44

> 0-0-56

>

> 1950

> 23-04-08

> 23-08-52

> 23-09-27

> 0-4-48

> 0-0-35

>

> 2000

> 23-46-01

> 23-50-44

> 23-51-11

> 0-4-43

> 0-0-27

>

> 2010

> 23-54-23

> 23-59-21

> 24-00-04

> 0-4-58

> 0-1-43

>

> 3000

> 37-45-33

> 37-48-03

> 37-51-26

> 0-2-30

> 0-3-23

>

> KPNA = KP New Ayanamsa of 2003

>

> * As per Astraura SW

>

> Note: KPSTLA or Khullar Ayanamsa is closed to Lahiri but

>

> not to KPNA or KPOA (KP Old Ayanamsa).

>

> 5. The Khullar Ayanamsa is now an option in Astracadabra and KCIL

supporting True Astrology SW.

>

> 6. This ayanamsa may be added to the list of ayanamsas in the Web and SWs:

>

> Aldebaran, Babylonian (Huber), Babylonian (Kugler 1), Babylonian (Kugler 2),

Babylonian (Kugler 3), Babylonian (Mercia), JN Bhasin, Chandra-Hiri, DeLuce,

Deva-datta, Dhira, Djwhal Khoo (Khul), Drik (Thiru Ganithan), Fagan-Bradley

(Fagan), Galactic Center, Hipparchos, Jagannatha, Krushna, KP (Krishnamurti), KP

Straight Line, KP Straight Line (Adjusted), Lahiri (Chitrapaksha), True

Chitrapaksha, Larry Ely, Raman , Rosicrucian, Savana, Sassanian, Takra I, Takra

II, Usha-Shashi, Tarun Chopra, Yuketswar, Mod. Yuketswar, Vakya, Wilhelm Ardra,

zeta Pisces,...

>

, " Amit " <amitchauhan05@> wrote:

> >

> > respected Tin Win ji and other members,

> > today i was going through an article on btr by s.p. khullar on the net and

found it little interesting but in the example given he had used khullar

ayanamsa which is not given in my s/w. kindly throw some light as to how to

custumize this ayanamsa (what value to deduct/add from kpna) for calculation

purpose. Thanks in advance

> > Regards

> > Amit

> >

>

January 20, 2010

Dear Ramani

The difference between Khullar System and Baskar System is not only usuage of

Sub Sub and Sub, Khullar system handles each thing using sound astrologically

concepts

Khullar Books are available with M/s. Sagar Publication, Janpath, Behind Bank of

Baroda Building, New Delhi. It is also available in Chennai at Mylapore area.

Regards

Khas

, " TW " <tw853 wrote:

>

> Dear Mr. Ramani ji,

> The main difference is using cuspal interlinks by 'sub' in KB and 'sub sub' in

KCIL.

> Regards,

> TW

>

> , " kadavasalramani " <kadavasalramani@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri TWji,

> >

> > I understand that Shri Khullar has published Cuspal Interlink

> > system. Is it replica of KB System by Shri K.Baskaran

> > of Madurai or it is different. Could you find out any difference between

the two, Sir? Where this book is

> > available?

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > K.S.V.Ramani

> > -

> > TW

> >

> > Monday, January 18, 2010 9:40 PM

> > Re: khullar ayanamsa

> >

> > Khullar Ayanamsa

> >

> > 1. The Khullar Ayanamsa is generally calculated by the following formula:

> >

> > AyanKP = (50.2388475/3600)*((YR-292)+(261/365)+(((MN-1)*30+DY)/365))

> >

> > YR stands for year

> >

> > MN stands for Month

> >

> > DY stands for Day

> >

> > 2. It is generally the same as the KP straight line (Adjusted) Ayanamsa

(KPSTLA) which is supported by KPAstro initial version to 3.5.

> >

> > KPSTLA = T*P/3600

> >

> > where

> >

> > T = Year for calculation - 291 (zero ayanamsa year for KP Ayanamsa)

> >

> > P = Newcomb's annual precession rate = 50.2388475 sec (for KP Ayanamsa)

> >

> > Note: For T as a fractional/decimal year taking days between required date

and 15th April, it gives up to date ayanamsa value.

> >

> > /message/30575

> >

> > 3. For example, for Tony Blair DOB May 6th 1953, Khullar ayanamsa

23:11:40

> >

> > http://www.scribd.com/doc/6748971/Blair-Tony

> >

> > 3.1. AyanKP = (50.2388475/3600)*((YR-292)+(261/365)+(((MN-1)*30+DY)/365))

> >

> > (YR-292)+(261/365) = (1953-292)+0.715068= 1639.715068 i.e. as the original

formula gives the value for April 15, one more year than 291 is subtracted and

then 261/365 for April 15 to December 31 is added in order to get January 1st

value.

> >

> > {(MN-1)*30+DY)}/365= {(5-1)*30+6}/365=126/365=0.345205, i.e. the decimal

year from January 1st to May 6th.

> >

> > 1639.715068+0.345205= 1.060273

> >

> > AyanKP = (50.2388475/3600)*(1.060273)= 23:11:40 (Khullar ayanamsa)

> >

> > 3.2. KPSTLA = T*P/3600

> >

> > 3.2.1. (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662*50.2388475/3600=23:11:37 for

April 15th 1953

> >

> > Ayanamsa value for April 15th to May 6th= 50.2388475 (21/365)= 3 sec

> >

> > KPSTLA = 23:11:37 + 00:00:03= 23:11:40 for May 6th 1953

> >

> > 3.2.2. By taking a decimal year from April 15th to May 6th

(1662+21/365=1662.0575),

> >

> > KPSTLA = (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662.0575*50.2388475/3600= 23:11:40

> >

> > 4. Comparison of Ayanamsa Values (As of 1st Jan in D-M-S)

> >

> > Year

> > KPNA

> > KPSTLA

> > LAHIRI*

> > KPSTLA

> >

> > minus

> >

> > KPNA

> > Lahiri

> >

> > minus

> >

> > STLA

> >

> > 1000

> > 09-50-25

> > 09-53-25

> > 09-55-12

> > 0-3-00

> > 0-1-47

> >

> > 1800

> > 20-58-33

> > 21-03-16

> > 21-03-45

> > 0-4-43

> > 0-0-29

> >

> > 1850

> > 21-40-24

> > 21-45-08

> > 21-45-37

> > 0-4-44

> > 0-0-29

> >

> > 1900

> > 22-22 16

> > 22-27-00

> > 22-27-56

> > 0-4-44

> > 0-0-56

> >

> > 1950

> > 23-04-08

> > 23-08-52

> > 23-09-27

> > 0-4-48

> > 0-0-35

> >

> > 2000

> > 23-46-01

> > 23-50-44

> > 23-51-11

> > 0-4-43

> > 0-0-27

> >

> > 2010

> > 23-54-23

> > 23-59-21

> > 24-00-04

> > 0-4-58

> > 0-1-43

> >

> > 3000

> > 37-45-33

> > 37-48-03

> > 37-51-26

> > 0-2-30

> > 0-3-23

> >

> > KPNA = KP New Ayanamsa of 2003

> >

> > * As per Astraura SW

> >

> > Note: KPSTLA or Khullar Ayanamsa is closed to Lahiri but

> >

> > not to KPNA or KPOA (KP Old Ayanamsa).

> >

> > 5. The Khullar Ayanamsa is now an option in Astracadabra and KCIL

supporting True Astrology SW.

> >

> > 6. This ayanamsa may be added to the list of ayanamsas in the Web and SWs:

> >

> > Aldebaran, Babylonian (Huber), Babylonian (Kugler 1), Babylonian (Kugler

2), Babylonian (Kugler 3), Babylonian (Mercia), JN Bhasin, Chandra-Hiri, DeLuce,

Deva-datta, Dhira, Djwhal Khoo (Khul), Drik (Thiru Ganithan), Fagan-Bradley

(Fagan), Galactic Center, Hipparchos, Jagannatha, Krushna, KP (Krishnamurti), KP

Straight Line, KP Straight Line (Adjusted), Lahiri (Chitrapaksha), True

Chitrapaksha, Larry Ely, Raman , Rosicrucian, Savana, Sassanian, Takra I, Takra

II, Usha-Shashi, Tarun Chopra, Yuketswar, Mod. Yuketswar, Vakya, Wilhelm Ardra,

zeta Pisces,...

> >

> > , " Amit " <amitchauhan05@> wrote:

> > >

> > > respected Tin Win ji and other members,

> > > today i was going through an article on btr by s.p. khullar on the net

and found it little interesting but in the example given he had used khullar

ayanamsa which is not given in my s/w. kindly throw some light as to how to

custumize this ayanamsa (what value to deduct/add from kpna) for calculation

purpose. Thanks in advance

> > > Regards

> > > Amit

> > >

> >

>

January 20, 2010

Dear Khasji,

Thanks for your information. Do you find it good and useful? What would be the approximate cost?

With best wishes,

K.S.V.Ramani

-

Khas

Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:01 PM

Re: khullar ayanamsa

Dear RamaniThe difference between Khullar System and Baskar System is not only usuage of Sub Sub and Sub, Khullar system handles each thing using sound astrologically conceptsKhullar Books are available with M/s. Sagar Publication, Janpath, Behind Bank of Baroda Building, New Delhi. It is also available in Chennai at Mylapore area.Regards Khas , "TW" <tw853 wrote:>> Dear Mr. Ramani ji,> The main difference is using cuspal interlinks by 'sub' in KB and 'sub sub' in KCIL. > Regards,> TW > > , "kadavasalramani" <kadavasalramani@> wrote:> >> > Dear Shri TWji,> > > > I understand that Shri Khullar has published Cuspal Interlink> > system. Is it replica of KB System by Shri K.Baskaran> > of Madurai or it is different. Could you find out any difference between the two, Sir? Where this book is > > available?> > > > Regards,> > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > - > > TW > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 9:40 PM> > Re: khullar ayanamsa> > > > > > > > > > Khullar Ayanamsa > > > > > > > > 1. The Khullar Ayanamsa is generally calculated by the following formula:> > > > > > > > AyanKP = (50.2388475/3600)*((YR-292)+(261/365)+(((MN-1)*30+DY)/365))> > > > YR stands for year> > > > MN stands for Month> > > > DY stands for Day> > > > > > > > 2. It is generally the same as the KP straight line (Adjusted) Ayanamsa (KPSTLA) which is supported by KPAstro initial version to 3.5. > > > > > > > > KPSTLA = T*P/3600> > > > where> > > > T = Year for calculation - 291 (zero ayanamsa year for KP Ayanamsa)> > > > P = Newcomb's annual precession rate = 50.2388475 sec (for KP Ayanamsa)> > > > Note: For T as a fractional/decimal year taking days between required date and 15th April, it gives up to date ayanamsa value.> > > > /message/30575> > > > > > > > 3. For example, for Tony Blair DOB May 6th 1953, Khullar ayanamsa 23:11:40> > > > http://www.scribd.com/doc/6748971/Blair-Tony> > > > > > > > 3.1. AyanKP = (50.2388475/3600)*((YR-292)+(261/365)+(((MN-1)*30+DY)/365))> > > > (YR-292)+(261/365) = (1953-292)+0.715068= 1639.715068 i.e. as the original formula gives the value for April 15, one more year than 291 is subtracted and then 261/365 for April 15 to December 31 is added in order to get January 1st value.> > > > {(MN-1)*30+DY)}/365= {(5-1)*30+6}/365=126/365=0.345205, i.e. the decimal year from January 1st to May 6th.> > > > 1639.715068+0.345205= 1.060273> > > > AyanKP = (50.2388475/3600)*(1.060273)= 23:11:40 (Khullar ayanamsa)> > > > > > > > 3.2. KPSTLA = T*P/3600> > > > 3.2.1. (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662*50.2388475/3600=23:11:37 for April 15th 1953 > > > > Ayanamsa value for April 15th to May 6th= 50.2388475 (21/365)= 3 sec> > > > KPSTLA = 23:11:37 + 00:00:03= 23:11:40 for May 6th 1953> > > > > > > > 3.2.2. By taking a decimal year from April 15th to May 6th (1662+21/365=1662.0575),> > > > KPSTLA = (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662.0575*50.2388475/3600= 23:11:40> > > > > > > > 4. Comparison of Ayanamsa Values (As of 1st Jan in D-M-S)> > > > Year> > KPNA> > KPSTLA> > LAHIRI*> > KPSTLA> > > > minus> > > > KPNA> > Lahiri> > > > minus> > > > STLA> > > > 1000> > 09-50-25 > > 09-53-25 > > 09-55-12> > 0-3-00> > 0-1-47> > > > 1800> > 20-58-33> > 21-03-16> > 21-03-45> > 0-4-43> > 0-0-29> > > > 1850> > 21-40-24 > > 21-45-08 > > 21-45-37> > 0-4-44> > 0-0-29> > > > 1900> > 22-22 16 > > 22-27-00 > > 22-27-56> > 0-4-44> > 0-0-56> > > > 1950> > 23-04-08 > > 23-08-52 > > 23-09-27 > > 0-4-48> > 0-0-35> > > > 2000> > 23-46-01 > > 23-50-44 > > 23-51-11> > 0-4-43> > 0-0-27> > > > 2010> > 23-54-23> > 23-59-21 > > 24-00-04> > 0-4-58> > 0-1-43> > > > 3000> > 37-45-33 > > 37-48-03> > 37-51-26> > 0-2-30> > 0-3-23> > > > > > KPNA = KP New Ayanamsa of 2003> > > > * As per Astraura SW> > > > Note: KPSTLA or Khullar Ayanamsa is closed to Lahiri but > > > > not to KPNA or KPOA (KP Old Ayanamsa).> > > > > > > > 5. The Khullar Ayanamsa is now an option in Astracadabra and KCIL supporting True Astrology SW. > > > > > > > > 6. This ayanamsa may be added to the list of ayanamsas in the Web and SWs: > > > > Aldebaran, Babylonian (Huber), Babylonian (Kugler 1), Babylonian (Kugler 2), Babylonian (Kugler 3), Babylonian (Mercia), JN Bhasin, Chandra-Hiri, DeLuce, Deva-datta, Dhira, Djwhal Khoo (Khul), Drik (Thiru Ganithan), Fagan-Bradley (Fagan), Galactic Center, Hipparchos, Jagannatha, Krushna, KP (Krishnamurti), KP Straight Line, KP Straight Line (Adjusted), Lahiri (Chitrapaksha), True Chitrapaksha, Larry Ely, Raman , Rosicrucian, Savana, Sassanian, Takra I, Takra II, Usha-Shashi, Tarun Chopra, Yuketswar, Mod. Yuketswar, Vakya, Wilhelm Ardra, zeta Pisces,...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Amit" <amitchauhan05@> wrote:> > >> > > respected Tin Win ji and other members,> > > today i was going through an article on btr by s.p. khullar on the net and found it little interesting but in the example given he had used khullar ayanamsa which is not given in my s/w. kindly throw some light as to how to custumize this ayanamsa (what value to deduct/add from kpna) for calculation purpose. Thanks in advance> > > Regards> > > Amit> > >> >>

January 20, 2010

Dear Friends,

Could you kindly elaborate what " sound astrologically concepts " in KCIL, not

included in KB? Pl be specific to understand what do you mean.

Thanks and regards,

TW

, " Khas " <caspal_1 wrote:

>

> Dear Ramani

>

> The difference between Khullar System and Baskar System is not only usuage of

Sub Sub and Sub, Khullar system handles each thing using sound astrologically

concepts

>

> Khullar Books are available with M/s. Sagar Publication, Janpath, Behind Bank

of Baroda Building, New Delhi. It is also available in Chennai at Mylapore

area.

>

> Regards

>

> Khas

> , " TW " <tw853@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr. Ramani ji,

> > The main difference is using cuspal interlinks by 'sub' in KB and 'sub sub'

in KCIL.

> > Regards,

> > TW

> >

> > , " kadavasalramani " <kadavasalramani@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Shri TWji,

> > >

> > > I understand that Shri Khullar has published Cuspal Interlink

> > > system. Is it replica of KB System by Shri K.Baskaran

> > > of Madurai or it is different. Could you find out any difference between

the two, Sir? Where this book is

> > > available?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > K.S.V.Ramani

> > > -

> > > TW

> > >

> > > Monday, January 18, 2010 9:40 PM

> > > Re: khullar ayanamsa

> > >

> > > Khullar Ayanamsa

> > >

> > > 1. The Khullar Ayanamsa is generally calculated by the following

formula:

> > >

> > > AyanKP = (50.2388475/3600)*((YR-292)+(261/365)+(((MN-1)*30+DY)/365))

> > >

> > > YR stands for year

> > >

> > > MN stands for Month

> > >

> > > DY stands for Day

> > >

> > > 2. It is generally the same as the KP straight line (Adjusted) Ayanamsa

(KPSTLA) which is supported by KPAstro initial version to 3.5.

> > >

> > > KPSTLA = T*P/3600

> > >

> > > where

> > >

> > > T = Year for calculation - 291 (zero ayanamsa year for KP Ayanamsa)

> > >

> > > P = Newcomb's annual precession rate = 50.2388475 sec (for KP Ayanamsa)

> > >

> > > Note: For T as a fractional/decimal year taking days between required

date and 15th April, it gives up to date ayanamsa value.

> > >

> > > /message/30575

> > >

> > > 3. For example, for Tony Blair DOB May 6th 1953, Khullar ayanamsa

23:11:40

> > >

> > > http://www.scribd.com/doc/6748971/Blair-Tony

> > >

> > > 3.1. AyanKP =

(50.2388475/3600)*((YR-292)+(261/365)+(((MN-1)*30+DY)/365))

> > >

> > > (YR-292)+(261/365) = (1953-292)+0.715068= 1639.715068 i.e. as the

original formula gives the value for April 15, one more year than 291 is

subtracted and then 261/365 for April 15 to December 31 is added in order to get

January 1st value.

> > >

> > > {(MN-1)*30+DY)}/365= {(5-1)*30+6}/365=126/365=0.345205, i.e. the decimal

year from January 1st to May 6th.

> > >

> > > 1639.715068+0.345205= 1.060273

> > >

> > > AyanKP = (50.2388475/3600)*(1.060273)= 23:11:40 (Khullar ayanamsa)

> > >

> > > 3.2. KPSTLA = T*P/3600

> > >

> > > 3.2.1. (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662*50.2388475/3600=23:11:37 for

April 15th 1953

> > >

> > > Ayanamsa value for April 15th to May 6th= 50.2388475 (21/365)= 3 sec

> > >

> > > KPSTLA = 23:11:37 + 00:00:03= 23:11:40 for May 6th 1953

> > >

> > > 3.2.2. By taking a decimal year from April 15th to May 6th

(1662+21/365=1662.0575),

> > >

> > > KPSTLA = (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662.0575*50.2388475/3600=

23:11:40

> > >

> > > 4. Comparison of Ayanamsa Values (As of 1st Jan in D-M-S)

> > >

> > > Year

> > > KPNA

> > > KPSTLA

> > > LAHIRI*

> > > KPSTLA

> > >

> > > minus

> > >

> > > KPNA

> > > Lahiri

> > >

> > > minus

> > >

> > > STLA

> > >

> > > 1000

> > > 09-50-25

> > > 09-53-25

> > > 09-55-12

> > > 0-3-00

> > > 0-1-47

> > >

> > > 1800

> > > 20-58-33

> > > 21-03-16

> > > 21-03-45

> > > 0-4-43

> > > 0-0-29

> > >

> > > 1850

> > > 21-40-24

> > > 21-45-08

> > > 21-45-37

> > > 0-4-44

> > > 0-0-29

> > >

> > > 1900

> > > 22-22 16

> > > 22-27-00

> > > 22-27-56

> > > 0-4-44

> > > 0-0-56

> > >

> > > 1950

> > > 23-04-08

> > > 23-08-52

> > > 23-09-27

> > > 0-4-48

> > > 0-0-35

> > >

> > > 2000

> > > 23-46-01

> > > 23-50-44

> > > 23-51-11

> > > 0-4-43

> > > 0-0-27

> > >

> > > 2010

> > > 23-54-23

> > > 23-59-21

> > > 24-00-04

> > > 0-4-58

> > > 0-1-43

> > >

> > > 3000

> > > 37-45-33

> > > 37-48-03

> > > 37-51-26

> > > 0-2-30

> > > 0-3-23

> > >

> > > KPNA = KP New Ayanamsa of 2003

> > >

> > > * As per Astraura SW

> > >

> > > Note: KPSTLA or Khullar Ayanamsa is closed to Lahiri but

> > >

> > > not to KPNA or KPOA (KP Old Ayanamsa).

> > >

> > > 5. The Khullar Ayanamsa is now an option in Astracadabra and KCIL

supporting True Astrology SW.

> > >

> > > 6. This ayanamsa may be added to the list of ayanamsas in the Web and

SWs:

> > >

> > > Aldebaran, Babylonian (Huber), Babylonian (Kugler 1), Babylonian (Kugler

2), Babylonian (Kugler 3), Babylonian (Mercia), JN Bhasin, Chandra-Hiri, DeLuce,

Deva-datta, Dhira, Djwhal Khoo (Khul), Drik (Thiru Ganithan), Fagan-Bradley

(Fagan), Galactic Center, Hipparchos, Jagannatha, Krushna, KP (Krishnamurti), KP

Straight Line, KP Straight Line (Adjusted), Lahiri (Chitrapaksha), True

Chitrapaksha, Larry Ely, Raman , Rosicrucian, Savana, Sassanian, Takra I, Takra

II, Usha-Shashi, Tarun Chopra, Yuketswar, Mod. Yuketswar, Vakya, Wilhelm Ardra,

zeta Pisces,...

> > >

> > > , " Amit " <amitchauhan05@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > respected Tin Win ji and other members,

> > > > today i was going through an article on btr by s.p. khullar on the net

and found it little interesting but in the example given he had used khullar

ayanamsa which is not given in my s/w. kindly throw some light as to how to

custumize this ayanamsa (what value to deduct/add from kpna) for calculation

purpose. Thanks in advance

> > > > Regards

> > > > Amit

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

January 21, 2010

Dear TW and friends,

" By Sound Astrological Principle " , I mean for example:

According to the fundamental principle of astrology, an event takes place only

when Sun and Moon occupy a particular zodiacal position. Corresponding to this

position, due to interaction of Sun and Moon, an Ascendant is formed. Now birth

of human being is an event in the life of father. Father is represented by 9th

house/cusp in the native's chart. To rectify a chart, Mr. Khullar says that the

position of Moon at the time of birth has to be coruled by those planets which

are strong significators of 1,7 and 10 ( 2, 5 and 11 with respect to 9th house).

Similarly, in a chart, all the 9 planets may be significators of death. But

death takes place only in a particular Dasa. Mr. Khullar has given specific

conditions which the Dasa Lord should meet to cause death. Similarly, at the

time of death, Saturn transit only in a particular sign, the lord of which

should justify some specific conditions. Similarly, at the time of birth of a

child Moon Star Lord of the child has to satisfy certain conditions and also be

a strong significator of 2,5 and 11 in the chart of the father or mother (for

first child).

Similarly, at the time of death, the star lord of the Moon has to satisfy

certain specific conditions and also has to be a strong significator of death.

All these things are explained by him in his books especially in his latest book

Key to Lean Sub Sub and Cuspal Inter Link Theory.

A dedicated astrologer who reads his books can easily understand the specific

conditions mentioned by him based on the sound principles of astrology. His

books are published by M/s. Sagar Publications , New Delhi

Regards

KHAS

, " TW " <tw853 wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

> Could you kindly elaborate what " sound astrologically concepts " in KCIL, not

included in KB? Pl be specific to understand what do you mean.

> Thanks and regards,

> TW

>

> , " Khas " <caspal_1@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ramani

> >

> > The difference between Khullar System and Baskar System is not only usuage

of Sub Sub and Sub, Khullar system handles each thing using sound astrologically

concepts

> >

> > Khullar Books are available with M/s. Sagar Publication, Janpath, Behind

Bank of Baroda Building, New Delhi. It is also available in Chennai at Mylapore

area.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Khas

> > , " TW " <tw853@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr. Ramani ji,

> > > The main difference is using cuspal interlinks by 'sub' in KB and 'sub

sub' in KCIL.

> > > Regards,

> > > TW

> > >

> > > , " kadavasalramani " <kadavasalramani@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Shri TWji,

> > > >

> > > > I understand that Shri Khullar has published Cuspal Interlink

> > > > system. Is it replica of KB System by Shri K.Baskaran

> > > > of Madurai or it is different. Could you find out any difference

between the two, Sir? Where this book is

> > > > available?

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > K.S.V.Ramani

> > > > -

> > > > TW

> > > >

> > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 9:40 PM

> > > > Re: khullar ayanamsa

> > > >

> > > > Khullar Ayanamsa

> > > >

> > > > 1. The Khullar Ayanamsa is generally calculated by the following

formula:

> > > >

> > > > AyanKP = (50.2388475/3600)*((YR-292)+(261/365)+(((MN-1)*30+DY)/365))

> > > >

> > > > YR stands for year

> > > >

> > > > MN stands for Month

> > > >

> > > > DY stands for Day

> > > >

> > > > 2. It is generally the same as the KP straight line (Adjusted)

Ayanamsa (KPSTLA) which is supported by KPAstro initial version to 3.5.

> > > >

> > > > KPSTLA = T*P/3600

> > > >

> > > > where

> > > >

> > > > T = Year for calculation - 291 (zero ayanamsa year for KP Ayanamsa)

> > > >

> > > > P = Newcomb's annual precession rate = 50.2388475 sec (for KP

Ayanamsa)

> > > >

> > > > Note: For T as a fractional/decimal year taking days between required

date and 15th April, it gives up to date ayanamsa value.

> > > >

> > > > /message/30575

> > > >

> > > > 3. For example, for Tony Blair DOB May 6th 1953, Khullar ayanamsa

23:11:40

> > > >

> > > > http://www.scribd.com/doc/6748971/Blair-Tony

> > > >

> > > > 3.1. AyanKP =

(50.2388475/3600)*((YR-292)+(261/365)+(((MN-1)*30+DY)/365))

> > > >

> > > > (YR-292)+(261/365) = (1953-292)+0.715068= 1639.715068 i.e. as the

original formula gives the value for April 15, one more year than 291 is

subtracted and then 261/365 for April 15 to December 31 is added in order to get

January 1st value.

> > > >

> > > > {(MN-1)*30+DY)}/365= {(5-1)*30+6}/365=126/365=0.345205, i.e. the

decimal year from January 1st to May 6th.

> > > >

> > > > 1639.715068+0.345205= 1.060273

> > > >

> > > > AyanKP = (50.2388475/3600)*(1.060273)= 23:11:40 (Khullar ayanamsa)

> > > >

> > > > 3.2. KPSTLA = T*P/3600

> > > >

> > > > 3.2.1. (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662*50.2388475/3600=23:11:37 for

April 15th 1953

> > > >

> > > > Ayanamsa value for April 15th to May 6th= 50.2388475 (21/365)= 3 sec

> > > >

> > > > KPSTLA = 23:11:37 + 00:00:03= 23:11:40 for May 6th 1953

> > > >

> > > > 3.2.2. By taking a decimal year from April 15th to May 6th

(1662+21/365=1662.0575),

> > > >

> > > > KPSTLA = (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662.0575*50.2388475/3600=

23:11:40

> > > >

> > > > 4. Comparison of Ayanamsa Values (As of 1st Jan in D-M-S)

> > > >

> > > > Year

> > > > KPNA

> > > > KPSTLA

> > > > LAHIRI*

> > > > KPSTLA

> > > >

> > > > minus

> > > >

> > > > KPNA

> > > > Lahiri

> > > >

> > > > minus

> > > >

> > > > STLA

> > > >

> > > > 1000

> > > > 09-50-25

> > > > 09-53-25

> > > > 09-55-12

> > > > 0-3-00

> > > > 0-1-47

> > > >

> > > > 1800

> > > > 20-58-33

> > > > 21-03-16

> > > > 21-03-45

> > > > 0-4-43

> > > > 0-0-29

> > > >

> > > > 1850

> > > > 21-40-24

> > > > 21-45-08

> > > > 21-45-37

> > > > 0-4-44

> > > > 0-0-29

> > > >

> > > > 1900

> > > > 22-22 16

> > > > 22-27-00

> > > > 22-27-56

> > > > 0-4-44

> > > > 0-0-56

> > > >

> > > > 1950

> > > > 23-04-08

> > > > 23-08-52

> > > > 23-09-27

> > > > 0-4-48

> > > > 0-0-35

> > > >

> > > > 2000

> > > > 23-46-01

> > > > 23-50-44

> > > > 23-51-11

> > > > 0-4-43

> > > > 0-0-27

> > > >

> > > > 2010

> > > > 23-54-23

> > > > 23-59-21

> > > > 24-00-04

> > > > 0-4-58

> > > > 0-1-43

> > > >

> > > > 3000

> > > > 37-45-33

> > > > 37-48-03

> > > > 37-51-26

> > > > 0-2-30

> > > > 0-3-23

> > > >

> > > > KPNA = KP New Ayanamsa of 2003

> > > >

> > > > * As per Astraura SW

> > > >

> > > > Note: KPSTLA or Khullar Ayanamsa is closed to Lahiri but

> > > >

> > > > not to KPNA or KPOA (KP Old Ayanamsa).

> > > >

> > > > 5. The Khullar Ayanamsa is now an option in Astracadabra and KCIL

supporting True Astrology SW.

> > > >

> > > > 6. This ayanamsa may be added to the list of ayanamsas in the Web and

SWs:

> > > >

> > > > Aldebaran, Babylonian (Huber), Babylonian (Kugler 1), Babylonian

(Kugler 2), Babylonian (Kugler 3), Babylonian (Mercia), JN Bhasin, Chandra-Hiri,

DeLuce, Deva-datta, Dhira, Djwhal Khoo (Khul), Drik (Thiru Ganithan),

Fagan-Bradley (Fagan), Galactic Center, Hipparchos, Jagannatha, Krushna, KP

(Krishnamurti), KP Straight Line, KP Straight Line (Adjusted), Lahiri

(Chitrapaksha), True Chitrapaksha, Larry Ely, Raman , Rosicrucian, Savana,

Sassanian, Takra I, Takra II, Usha-Shashi, Tarun Chopra, Yuketswar, Mod.

Yuketswar, Vakya, Wilhelm Ardra, zeta Pisces,...

> > > >

> > > > , " Amit " <amitchauhan05@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > respected Tin Win ji and other members,

> > > > > today i was going through an article on btr by s.p. khullar on the

net and found it little interesting but in the example given he had used khullar

ayanamsa which is not given in my s/w. kindly throw some light as to how to

custumize this ayanamsa (what value to deduct/add from kpna) for calculation

purpose. Thanks in advance

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Amit

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

January 21, 2010

Dear Tin Win,

I have been using KP St.Line Ayanamsa available as a choice,with the late Mr.A.R.Raichur's Software...since long...and still do...

This is for your information...

Yogesh Lajmi.

TW <tw853 Sent: Thu, 21 January, 2010 1:23:08 AM Re: khullar ayanamsa

Dear Friends,Could you kindly elaborate what "sound astrologically concepts" in KCIL, not included in KB? Pl be specific to understand what do you mean.Thanks and regards,TW@gro ups.com, "Khas" <caspal_1@.. .> wrote:>> Dear Ramani> > The difference between Khullar System and Baskar System is not only usuage of Sub Sub and Sub, Khullar system handles each thing using sound astrologically concepts> > Khullar Books are available with M/s. Sagar Publication, Janpath, Behind Bank of Baroda Building, New Delhi. It is also available in Chennai at Mylapore area.> > Regards > > Khas> @gro ups.com, "TW" <tw853@> wrote:> >> > Dear Mr. Ramani ji,> > The main difference is using cuspal interlinks by 'sub' in KB and 'sub sub' in KCIL. > > Regards,> > TW > > > > @gro ups.com, "kadavasalramani" <kadavasalramani@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Shri TWji,> > > > > > I understand that Shri Khullar has published Cuspal Interlink> > > system. Is it replica of KB System by Shri K.Baskaran> > > of Madurai or it is different. Could you find out any difference between the two, Sir? Where this book is > > > available?> > > > > > Regards,> > >

> > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > - > > > TW > > > @gro ups.com > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 9:40 PM> > > Re: khullar ayanamsa> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khullar Ayanamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. The Khullar Ayanamsa is generally calculated by the following formula:> > > > > > > > > > > > AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*((YR- 292)+(261/ 365)+(((MN- 1)*30+DY) /365))> > > > > > YR stands for year> > > > > > MN stands for Month> > > > > > DY

stands for Day> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. It is generally the same as the KP straight line (Adjusted) Ayanamsa (KPSTLA) which is supported by KPAstro initial version to 3.5. > > > > > > > > > > > > KPSTLA = T*P/3600> > > > > > where> > > > > > T = Year for calculation - 291 (zero ayanamsa year for KP Ayanamsa)> > > > > > P = Newcomb's annual precession rate = 50.2388475 sec (for KP Ayanamsa)> > > > > > Note: For T as a fractional/decimal year taking days between required date and 15th April, it gives up to date ayanamsa value.> > > > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 30575> > > > >

> > > > > > > 3. For example, for Tony Blair DOB May 6th 1953, Khullar ayanamsa 23:11:40> > > > > > http://www.scribd. com/doc/6748971/ Blair-Tony> > > > > > > > > > > > 3.1. AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*((YR- 292)+(261/ 365)+(((MN- 1)*30+DY) /365))> > > > > > (YR-292)+(261/ 365) = (1953-292)+0. 715068= 1639.715068 i.e. as the original formula gives the value for April 15, one more year than 291 is subtracted and then 261/365 for April 15 to December 31 is added in order to get January 1st value.> > > > > > {(MN-1)*30+DY) }/365= {(5-1)*30+6} /365=126/ 365=0.345205, i.e. the decimal year from January 1st to May 6th.> > > > > > 1639.715068+ 0.345205= 1.060273> > > > >

> AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*(1. 060273)= 23:11:40 (Khullar ayanamsa)> > > > > > > > > > > > 3.2. KPSTLA = T*P/3600> > > > > > 3.2.1. (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662*50.2388475/ 3600=23:11: 37 for April 15th 1953 > > > > > > Ayanamsa value for April 15th to May 6th= 50.2388475 (21/365)= 3 sec> > > > > > KPSTLA = 23:11:37 + 00:00:03= 23:11:40 for May 6th 1953> > > > > > > > > > > > 3.2.2. By taking a decimal year from April 15th to May 6th (1662+21/365= 1662.0575) ,> > > > > > KPSTLA = (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662.0575*50. 2388475/3600= 23:11:40> > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Comparison of Ayanamsa Values (As of 1st Jan in D-M-S)> > > > > > Year> > >

KPNA> > > KPSTLA> > > LAHIRI*> > > KPSTLA> > > > > > minus> > > > > > KPNA> > > Lahiri> > > > > > minus> > > > > > STLA> > > > > > 1000> > > 09-50-25 > > > 09-53-25 > > > 09-55-12> > > 0-3-00> > > 0-1-47> > > > > > 1800> > > 20-58-33> > > 21-03-16> > > 21-03-45> > > 0-4-43> > > 0-0-29> > > > > > 1850> > > 21-40-24 > > > 21-45-08 > > > 21-45-37> > > 0-4-44> > > 0-0-29> > > > > > 1900> > > 22-22 16 > > > 22-27-00 > > > 22-27-56> > > 0-4-44> > >

0-0-56> > > > > > 1950> > > 23-04-08 > > > 23-08-52 > > > 23-09-27 > > > 0-4-48> > > 0-0-35> > > > > > 2000> > > 23-46-01 > > > 23-50-44 > > > 23-51-11> > > 0-4-43> > > 0-0-27> > > > > > 2010> > > 23-54-23> > > 23-59-21 > > > 24-00-04> > > 0-4-58> > > 0-1-43> > > > > > 3000> > > 37-45-33 > > > 37-48-03> > > 37-51-26> > > 0-2-30> > > 0-3-23> > > > > > > > > KPNA = KP New Ayanamsa of 2003> > > > > > * As per Astraura SW> > > > > > Note: KPSTLA or Khullar Ayanamsa is closed to Lahiri but > > >

> > > not to KPNA or KPOA (KP Old Ayanamsa).> > > > > > > > > > > > 5. The Khullar Ayanamsa is now an option in Astracadabra and KCIL supporting True Astrology SW. > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. This ayanamsa may be added to the list of ayanamsas in the Web and SWs: > > > > > > Aldebaran, Babylonian (Huber), Babylonian (Kugler 1), Babylonian (Kugler 2), Babylonian (Kugler 3), Babylonian (Mercia), JN Bhasin, Chandra-Hiri, DeLuce, Deva-datta, Dhira, Djwhal Khoo (Khul), Drik (Thiru Ganithan), Fagan-Bradley (Fagan), Galactic Center, Hipparchos, Jagannatha, Krushna, KP (Krishnamurti) , KP Straight Line, KP Straight Line (Adjusted), Lahiri (Chitrapaksha) , True Chitrapaksha, Larry Ely, Raman , Rosicrucian, Savana, Sassanian, Takra I, Takra II, Usha-Shashi, Tarun Chopra, Yuketswar, Mod. Yuketswar, Vakya, Wilhelm Ardra, zeta

Pisces,...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Amit" <amitchauhan05@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > respected Tin Win ji and other members,> > > > today i was going through an article on btr by s.p. khullar on the net and found it little interesting but in the example given he had used khullar ayanamsa which is not given in my s/w. kindly throw some light as to how to custumize this ayanamsa (what value to deduct/add from kpna) for calculation purpose. Thanks in advance> > > > Regards> > > > Amit> > > >> > >>

>>

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Thanks for information for those interested to use the KP Straight Line Ayanamsa

which is almost the same as Khullar Ayanamsa, but

/message/5288?threaded=1

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, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote:

>

> Dear Tin Win,

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I have been using KP St.Line Ayanamsa

available as a choice,with the late Mr.A.R.Raichur's Software...since long...and

still do...

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â This is for your information...

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Yogesh Lajmi.

>

> Â

>

> ________________________________

> TW <tw853

>

> Thu, 21 January, 2010 1:23:08 AM

> Re: khullar ayanamsa

>

> Â

> Dear Friends,

> Could you kindly elaborate what " sound astrologically concepts " in KCIL, not

included in KB? Pl be specific to understand what do you mean.

> Thanks and regards,

> TW

>

> @gro ups.com, " Khas " <caspal_1@ .> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ramani

> >

> > The difference between Khullar System and Baskar System is not only usuage

of Sub Sub and Sub, Khullar system handles each thing using sound astrologically

concepts

> >

> > Khullar Books are available with M/s. Sagar Publication, Janpath, Behind

Bank of Baroda Building, New Delhi. It is also available in Chennai at Mylapore

area.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Khas

> > @gro ups.com, " TW " <tw853@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr. Ramani ji,

> > > The main difference is using cuspal interlinks by 'sub' in KB and 'sub

sub' in KCIL.

> > > Regards,

> > > TW

> > >

> > > @gro ups.com, " kadavasalramani " <kadavasalramani@ >

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Shri TWji,

> > > >

> > > > I understand that Shri Khullar has published Cuspal Interlink

> > > > system. Is it replica of KB System by Shri K.Baskaran

> > > > of Madurai or it is different. Could you find out any difference between

the two, Sir? Where this book is

> > > > available?

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > K.S.V.Ramani

> > > > -

> > > > TW

> > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 9:40 PM

> > > > Re: khullar ayanamsa

> > > >

> > > > Khullar Ayanamsa

> > > >

> > > > 1. The Khullar Ayanamsa is generally calculated by the following

formula:

> > > >

> > > > AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*((YR- 292)+(261/ 365)+(((MN- 1)*30+DY)

/365))

> > > >

> > > > YR stands for year

> > > >

> > > > MN stands for Month

> > > >

> > > > DY stands for Day

> > > >

> > > > 2. It is generally the same as the KP straight line (Adjusted) Ayanamsa

(KPSTLA) which is supported by KPAstro initial version to 3.5.

> > > >

> > > > KPSTLA = T*P/3600

> > > >

> > > > where

> > > >

> > > > T = Year for calculation - 291 (zero ayanamsa year for KP Ayanamsa)

> > > >

> > > > P = Newcomb's annual precession rate = 50.2388475 sec (for KP Ayanamsa)

> > > >

> > > > Note: For T as a fractional/decimal year taking days between required

date and 15th April, it gives up to date ayanamsa value.

> > > >

> > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 30575

> > > >

> > > > 3. For example, for Tony Blair DOB May 6th 1953, Khullar ayanamsa

23:11:40

> > > >

> > > > http://www.scribd. com/doc/6748971/ Blair-> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 3.1. AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*((YR- 292)+(261/ 365)+(((MN- 1)*30+DY)

/365))

> > > >

> > > > (YR-292)+(261/ 365) = (1953-292)+0. 715068= 1639.715068 i.e. as the

original formula gives the value for April 15, one more year than 291 is

subtracted and then 261/365 for April 15 to December 31 is added in order to get

January 1st value.

> > > >

> > > > {(MN-1)*30+DY) }/365= {(5-1)*30+6} /365=126/ 365=0.345205, i.e. the

decimal year from January 1st to May 6th.

> > > >

> > > > 1639.715068+ 0.345205= 1.060273

> > > >

> > > > AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*(1. 060273)= 23:11:40 (Khullar ayanamsa)

> > > >

> > > > 3.2. KPSTLA = T*P/3600

> > > >

> > > > 3.2.1. (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662*50.2388475/ 3600=23:11: 37 for

April 15th 1953

> > > >

> > > > Ayanamsa value for April 15th to May 6th= 50.2388475 (21/365)= 3 sec

> > > >

> > > > KPSTLA = 23:11:37 + 00:00:03= 23:11:40 for May 6th 1953

> > > >

> > > > 3.2.2. By taking a decimal year from April 15th to May 6th (1662+21/365=

1662.0575) ,

> > > >

> > > > KPSTLA = (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662.0575*50. 2388475/3600=

23:11:40

> > > >

> > > > 4. Comparison of Ayanamsa Values (As of 1st Jan in D-M-S)

> > > >

> > > > Year

> > > > KPNA

> > > > KPSTLA

> > > > LAHIRI*

> > > > KPSTLA

> > > >

> > > > minus

> > > >

> > > > KPNA

> > > > Lahiri

> > > >

> > > > minus

> > > >

> > > > STLA

> > > >

> > > > 1000

> > > > 09-50-25

> > > > 09-53-25

> > > > 09-55-12

> > > > 0-3-00

> > > > 0-1-47

> > > >

> > > > 1800

> > > > 20-58-33

> > > > 21-03-16

> > > > 21-03-45

> > > > 0-4-43

> > > > 0-0-29

> > > >

> > > > 1850

> > > > 21-40-24

> > > > 21-45-08

> > > > 21-45-37

> > > > 0-4-44

> > > > 0-0-29

> > > >

> > > > 1900

> > > > 22-22 16

> > > > 22-27-00

> > > > 22-27-56

> > > > 0-4-44

> > > > 0-0-56

> > > >

> > > > 1950

> > > > 23-04-08

> > > > 23-08-52

> > > > 23-09-27

> > > > 0-4-48

> > > > 0-0-35

> > > >

> > > > 2000

> > > > 23-46-01

> > > > 23-50-44

> > > > 23-51-11

> > > > 0-4-43

> > > > 0-0-27

> > > >

> > > > 2010

> > > > 23-54-23

> > > > 23-59-21

> > > > 24-00-04

> > > > 0-4-58

> > > > 0-1-43

> > > >

> > > > 3000

> > > > 37-45-33

> > > > 37-48-03

> > > > 37-51-26

> > > > 0-2-30

> > > > 0-3-23

> > > >

> > > > KPNA = KP New Ayanamsa of 2003

> > > >

> > > > * As per Astraura SW

> > > >

> > > > Note: KPSTLA or Khullar Ayanamsa is closed to Lahiri but

> > > >

> > > > not to KPNA or KPOA (KP Old Ayanamsa).

> > > >

> > > > 5. The Khullar Ayanamsa is now an option in Astracadabra and KCIL

supporting True Astrology SW.

> > > >

> > > > 6. This ayanamsa may be added to the list of ayanamsas in the Web and

SWs:

> > > >

> > > > Aldebaran, Babylonian (Huber), Babylonian (Kugler 1), Babylonian (Kugler

2), Babylonian (Kugler 3), Babylonian (Mercia), JN Bhasin, Chandra-Hiri, DeLuce,

Deva-datta, Dhira, Djwhal Khoo (Khul), Drik (Thiru Ganithan), Fagan-Bradley

(Fagan), Galactic Center, Hipparchos, Jagannatha, Krushna, KP (Krishnamurti) ,

KP Straight Line, KP Straight Line (Adjusted), Lahiri (Chitrapaksha) , True

Chitrapaksha, Larry Ely, Raman , Rosicrucian, Savana, Sassanian, Takra I, Takra

II, Usha-Shashi, Tarun Chopra, Yuketswar, Mod. Yuketswar, Vakya, Wilhelm Ardra,

zeta Pisces,...

> > > >

> > > > @gro ups.com, " Amit " <amitchauhan05@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > respected Tin Win ji and other members,

> > > > > today i was going through an article on btr by s.p. khullar on the net

and found it little interesting but in the example given he had used khullar

ayanamsa which is not given in my s/w. kindly throw some light as to how to

custumize this ayanamsa (what value to deduct/add from kpna) for calculation

purpose. Thanks in advance

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Amit

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

>

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January 22, 2010

Dear Khas,

Thank you for mentioning not serious difference in 'astrological principles' in

KB and KCIL, other than the minor BTR supporting genetical connections which are

also attempted in some BTR methods,

/message/30596

and not so sure supplementary timing of death which takes several strong aspects

to cook the goose, astrologically speaking, as said by Judith Hill in 'Medical

Astrology,'(Stellium Press, 2004, pp 108-111), giving 25 transits of death.

Thanks and regards,

TW

, " Khas " <caspal_1 wrote:

>

> Dear TW and friends,

>

> " By Sound Astrological Principle " , I mean for example:

>

> According to the fundamental principle of astrology, an event takes place only

when Sun and Moon occupy a particular zodiacal position. Corresponding to this

position, due to interaction of Sun and Moon, an Ascendant is formed. Now birth

of human being is an event in the life of father. Father is represented by 9th

house/cusp in the native's chart. To rectify a chart, Mr. Khullar says that the

position of Moon at the time of birth has to be coruled by those planets which

are strong significators of 1,7 and 10 ( 2, 5 and 11 with respect to 9th house).

>

> Similarly, in a chart, all the 9 planets may be significators of death. But

death takes place only in a particular Dasa. Mr. Khullar has given specific

conditions which the Dasa Lord should meet to cause death. Similarly, at the

time of death, Saturn transit only in a particular sign, the lord of which

should justify some specific conditions. Similarly, at the time of birth of a

child Moon Star Lord of the child has to satisfy certain conditions and also be

a strong significator of 2,5 and 11 in the chart of the father or mother (for

first child).

>

> Similarly, at the time of death, the star lord of the Moon has to satisfy

certain specific conditions and also has to be a strong significator of death.

All these things are explained by him in his books especially in his latest book

Key to Lean Sub Sub and Cuspal Inter Link Theory.

>

> A dedicated astrologer who reads his books can easily understand the specific

conditions mentioned by him based on the sound principles of astrology. His

books are published by M/s. Sagar Publications , New Delhi

>

> Regards

>

> KHAS

>

> , " TW " <tw853@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> > Could you kindly elaborate what " sound astrologically concepts " in KCIL, not

included in KB? Pl be specific to understand what do you mean.

> > Thanks and regards,

> > TW

> >

> > , " Khas " <caspal_1@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ramani

> > >

> > > The difference between Khullar System and Baskar System is not only usuage

of Sub Sub and Sub, Khullar system handles each thing using sound astrologically

concepts

> > >

> > > Khullar Books are available with M/s. Sagar Publication, Janpath, Behind

Bank of Baroda Building, New Delhi. It is also available in Chennai at Mylapore

area.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Khas

> > > , " TW " <tw853@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mr. Ramani ji,

> > > > The main difference is using cuspal interlinks by 'sub' in KB and 'sub

sub' in KCIL.

> > > > Regards,

> > > > TW

> > > >

> > > > , " kadavasalramani " <kadavasalramani@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Shri TWji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I understand that Shri Khullar has published Cuspal Interlink

> > > > > system. Is it replica of KB System by Shri K.Baskaran

> > > > > of Madurai or it is different. Could you find out any difference

between the two, Sir? Where this book is

> > > > > available?

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > K.S.V.Ramani

> > > > > -

> > > > > TW

> > > > >

> > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 9:40 PM

> > > > > Re: khullar ayanamsa

> > > > >

> > > > > Khullar Ayanamsa

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. The Khullar Ayanamsa is generally calculated by the following

formula:

> > > > >

> > > > > AyanKP = (50.2388475/3600)*((YR-292)+(261/365)+(((MN-1)*30+DY)/365))

> > > > >

> > > > > YR stands for year

> > > > >

> > > > > MN stands for Month

> > > > >

> > > > > DY stands for Day

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. It is generally the same as the KP straight line (Adjusted)

Ayanamsa (KPSTLA) which is supported by KPAstro initial version to 3.5.

> > > > >

> > > > > KPSTLA = T*P/3600

> > > > >

> > > > > where

> > > > >

> > > > > T = Year for calculation - 291 (zero ayanamsa year for KP Ayanamsa)

> > > > >

> > > > > P = Newcomb's annual precession rate = 50.2388475 sec (for KP

Ayanamsa)

> > > > >

> > > > > Note: For T as a fractional/decimal year taking days between

required date and 15th April, it gives up to date ayanamsa value.

> > > > >

> > > > > /message/30575

> > > > >

> > > > > 3. For example, for Tony Blair DOB May 6th 1953, Khullar ayanamsa

23:11:40

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.scribd.com/doc/6748971/Blair-Tony

> > > > >

> > > > > 3.1. AyanKP =

(50.2388475/3600)*((YR-292)+(261/365)+(((MN-1)*30+DY)/365))

> > > > >

> > > > > (YR-292)+(261/365) = (1953-292)+0.715068= 1639.715068 i.e. as the

original formula gives the value for April 15, one more year than 291 is

subtracted and then 261/365 for April 15 to December 31 is added in order to get

January 1st value.

> > > > >

> > > > > {(MN-1)*30+DY)}/365= {(5-1)*30+6}/365=126/365=0.345205, i.e. the

decimal year from January 1st to May 6th.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1639.715068+0.345205= 1.060273

> > > > >

> > > > > AyanKP = (50.2388475/3600)*(1.060273)= 23:11:40 (Khullar ayanamsa)

> > > > >

> > > > > 3.2. KPSTLA = T*P/3600

> > > > >

> > > > > 3.2.1. (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662*50.2388475/3600=23:11:37

for April 15th 1953

> > > > >

> > > > > Ayanamsa value for April 15th to May 6th= 50.2388475 (21/365)= 3 sec

> > > > >

> > > > > KPSTLA = 23:11:37 + 00:00:03= 23:11:40 for May 6th 1953

> > > > >

> > > > > 3.2.2. By taking a decimal year from April 15th to May 6th

(1662+21/365=1662.0575),

> > > > >

> > > > > KPSTLA = (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662.0575*50.2388475/3600=

23:11:40

> > > > >

> > > > > 4. Comparison of Ayanamsa Values (As of 1st Jan in D-M-S)

> > > > >

> > > > > Year

> > > > > KPNA

> > > > > KPSTLA

> > > > > LAHIRI*

> > > > > KPSTLA

> > > > >

> > > > > minus

> > > > >

> > > > > KPNA

> > > > > Lahiri

> > > > >

> > > > > minus

> > > > >

> > > > > STLA

> > > > >

> > > > > 1000

> > > > > 09-50-25

> > > > > 09-53-25

> > > > > 09-55-12

> > > > > 0-3-00

> > > > > 0-1-47

> > > > >

> > > > > 1800

> > > > > 20-58-33

> > > > > 21-03-16

> > > > > 21-03-45

> > > > > 0-4-43

> > > > > 0-0-29

> > > > >

> > > > > 1850

> > > > > 21-40-24

> > > > > 21-45-08

> > > > > 21-45-37

> > > > > 0-4-44

> > > > > 0-0-29

> > > > >

> > > > > 1900

> > > > > 22-22 16

> > > > > 22-27-00

> > > > > 22-27-56

> > > > > 0-4-44

> > > > > 0-0-56

> > > > >

> > > > > 1950

> > > > > 23-04-08

> > > > > 23-08-52

> > > > > 23-09-27

> > > > > 0-4-48

> > > > > 0-0-35

> > > > >

> > > > > 2000

> > > > > 23-46-01

> > > > > 23-50-44

> > > > > 23-51-11

> > > > > 0-4-43

> > > > > 0-0-27

> > > > >

> > > > > 2010

> > > > > 23-54-23

> > > > > 23-59-21

> > > > > 24-00-04

> > > > > 0-4-58

> > > > > 0-1-43

> > > > >

> > > > > 3000

> > > > > 37-45-33

> > > > > 37-48-03

> > > > > 37-51-26

> > > > > 0-2-30

> > > > > 0-3-23

> > > > >

> > > > > KPNA = KP New Ayanamsa of 2003

> > > > >

> > > > > * As per Astraura SW

> > > > >

> > > > > Note: KPSTLA or Khullar Ayanamsa is closed to Lahiri but

> > > > >

> > > > > not to KPNA or KPOA (KP Old Ayanamsa).

> > > > >

> > > > > 5. The Khullar Ayanamsa is now an option in Astracadabra and KCIL

supporting True Astrology SW.

> > > > >

> > > > > 6. This ayanamsa may be added to the list of ayanamsas in the Web

and SWs:

> > > > >

> > > > > Aldebaran, Babylonian (Huber), Babylonian (Kugler 1), Babylonian

(Kugler 2), Babylonian (Kugler 3), Babylonian (Mercia), JN Bhasin, Chandra-Hiri,

DeLuce, Deva-datta, Dhira, Djwhal Khoo (Khul), Drik (Thiru Ganithan),

Fagan-Bradley (Fagan), Galactic Center, Hipparchos, Jagannatha, Krushna, KP

(Krishnamurti), KP Straight Line, KP Straight Line (Adjusted), Lahiri

(Chitrapaksha), True Chitrapaksha, Larry Ely, Raman , Rosicrucian, Savana,

Sassanian, Takra I, Takra II, Usha-Shashi, Tarun Chopra, Yuketswar, Mod.

Yuketswar, Vakya, Wilhelm Ardra, zeta Pisces,...

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Amit " <amitchauhan05@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > respected Tin Win ji and other members,

> > > > > > today i was going through an article on btr by s.p. khullar on the

net and found it little interesting but in the example given he had used khullar

ayanamsa which is not given in my s/w. kindly throw some light as to how to

custumize this ayanamsa (what value to deduct/add from kpna) for calculation

purpose. Thanks in advance

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Amit

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

January 22, 2010

Dear KHAS,

Normally,only the mother knows who the real father is...hence wouldn't it be wiser to take the IVth house instead of the IXth house for Father...? Kindly enlighten please...I had written to Khullar and his followers about this,but got no convincing answer as yet...I hope you can clarify please...

Yogesh Lajmi.

TW <tw853 Sent: Fri, 22 January, 2010 8:40:54 AM Re: khullar ayanamsa

Dear Khas,Thank you for mentioning not serious difference in 'astrological principles' in KB and KCIL, other than the minor BTR supporting genetical connections which are also attempted in some BTR methods, http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 30596 and not so sure supplementary timing of death which takes several strong aspects to cook the goose, astrologically speaking, as said by Judith Hill in 'Medical Astrology,'( Stellium Press, 2004, pp 108-111), giving 25 transits of death. Thanks and regards,TW@gro ups.com, "Khas" <caspal_1@.. .> wrote:>> > > Dear TW and friends,> > "By Sound Astrological Principle", I mean for

example:> > According to the fundamental principle of astrology, an event takes place only when Sun and Moon occupy a particular zodiacal position. Corresponding to this position, due to interaction of Sun and Moon, an Ascendant is formed. Now birth of human being is an event in the life of father. Father is represented by 9th house/cusp in the native's chart. To rectify a chart, Mr. Khullar says that the position of Moon at the time of birth has to be coruled by those planets which are strong significators of 1,7 and 10 ( 2, 5 and 11 with respect to 9th house).> > Similarly, in a chart, all the 9 planets may be significators of death. But death takes place only in a particular Dasa. Mr. Khullar has given specific conditions which the Dasa Lord should meet to cause death. Similarly, at the time of death, Saturn transit only in a particular sign, the lord of which should justify some specific conditions. Similarly, at the time

of birth of a child Moon Star Lord of the child has to satisfy certain conditions and also be a strong significator of 2,5 and 11 in the chart of the father or mother (for first child).> > Similarly, at the time of death, the star lord of the Moon has to satisfy certain specific conditions and also has to be a strong significator of death. All these things are explained by him in his books especially in his latest book Key to Lean Sub Sub and Cuspal Inter Link Theory. > > A dedicated astrologer who reads his books can easily understand the specific conditions mentioned by him based on the sound principles of astrology. His books are published by M/s. Sagar Publications , New Delhi> > Regards> > KHAS> > > > @gro ups.com, "TW"

<tw853@> wrote:> >> > Dear Friends,> > Could you kindly elaborate what "sound astrologically concepts" in KCIL, not included in KB? Pl be specific to understand what do you mean.> > Thanks and regards,> > TW> > > > @gro ups.com, "Khas" <caspal_1@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ramani> > > > > > The difference between Khullar System and Baskar System is not only usuage of Sub Sub and Sub, Khullar system handles each thing using sound astrologically concepts> > > > > > Khullar Books are available with M/s. Sagar Publication, Janpath, Behind Bank of Baroda Building, New Delhi. It is also available in Chennai at Mylapore area.> > > > > >

Regards > > > > > > Khas> > > @gro ups.com, "TW" <tw853@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Mr. Ramani ji,> > > > The main difference is using cuspal interlinks by 'sub' in KB and 'sub sub' in KCIL. > > > > Regards,> > > > TW > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "kadavasalramani" <kadavasalramani@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Shri TWji,> > > > > > > > > > I understand that Shri Khullar has published Cuspal Interlink> > > > >

system. Is it replica of KB System by Shri K.Baskaran> > > > > of Madurai or it is different. Could you find out any difference between the two, Sir? Where this book is > > > > > available?> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > > - > > > > > TW > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 9:40 PM> > > > > Re: khullar ayanamsa> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khullar Ayanamsa > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. The Khullar Ayanamsa is generally calculated by the following formula:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*((YR- 292)+(261/ 365)+(((MN- 1)*30+DY) /365))> > > > > > > > > > YR stands for year> > > > > > > > > > MN stands for Month> > > > > > > > > > DY stands for Day> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. It is generally the same as the KP straight line (Adjusted) Ayanamsa (KPSTLA) which is supported by KPAstro initial version to 3.5. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KPSTLA =

T*P/3600> > > > > > > > > > where> > > > > > > > > > T = Year for calculation - 291 (zero ayanamsa year for KP Ayanamsa)> > > > > > > > > > P = Newcomb's annual precession rate = 50.2388475 sec (for KP Ayanamsa)> > > > > > > > > > Note: For T as a fractional/decimal year taking days between required date and 15th April, it gives up to date ayanamsa value.> > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 30575> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. For example, for Tony Blair DOB May 6th 1953, Khullar ayanamsa 23:11:40> > > > > > > > >

> http://www.scribd. com/doc/6748971/ Blair-Tony> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.1. AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*((YR- 292)+(261/ 365)+(((MN- 1)*30+DY) /365))> > > > > > > > > > (YR-292)+(261/ 365) = (1953-292)+0. 715068= 1639..715068 i.e. as the original formula gives the value for April 15, one more year than 291 is subtracted and then 261/365 for April 15 to December 31 is added in order to get January 1st value.> > > > > > > > > > {(MN-1)*30+DY) }/365= {(5-1)*30+6} /365=126/ 365=0.345205, i.e. the decimal year from January 1st to May 6th.> > > > > > > > > > 1639.715068+ 0.345205= 1.060273> > > > > > > > > > AyanKP = (50.2388475/

3600)*(1. 060273)= 23:11:40 (Khullar ayanamsa)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.2. KPSTLA = T*P/3600> > > > > > > > > > 3.2.1. (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662*50.2388475/ 3600=23:11: 37 for April 15th 1953 > > > > > > > > > > Ayanamsa value for April 15th to May 6th= 50.2388475 (21/365)= 3 sec> > > > > > > > > > KPSTLA = 23:11:37 + 00:00:03= 23:11:40 for May 6th 1953> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.2.2. By taking a decimal year from April 15th to May 6th (1662+21/365= 1662.0575) ,> > > > > > > > > > KPSTLA = (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662.0575*50. 2388475/3600= 23:11:40> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 4. Comparison of Ayanamsa Values (As of 1st Jan in D-M-S)> > > > > > > > > > Year> > > > > KPNA> > > > > KPSTLA> > > > > LAHIRI*> > > > > KPSTLA> > > > > > > > > > minus> > > > > > > > > > KPNA> > > > > Lahiri> > > > > > > > > > minus> > > > > > > > > > STLA> > > > > > > > > > 1000> > > > > 09-50-25 > > > > > 09-53-25 > > > > > 09-55-12> > > > > 0-3-00> > > > > 0-1-47> > > > > > > > > > 1800> > > > > 20-58-33> > >

> > 21-03-16> > > > > 21-03-45> > > > > 0-4-43> > > > > 0-0-29> > > > > > > > > > 1850> > > > > 21-40-24 > > > > > 21-45-08 > > > > > 21-45-37> > > > > 0-4-44> > > > > 0-0-29> > > > > > > > > > 1900> > > > > 22-22 16 > > > > > 22-27-00 > > > > > 22-27-56> > > > > 0-4-44> > > > > 0-0-56> > > > > > > > > > 1950> > > > > 23-04-08 > > > > > 23-08-52 > > > > > 23-09-27 > > > > > 0-4-48> > > > > 0-0-35> > > > > > > > > > 2000> > > > > 23-46-01

> > > > > 23-50-44 > > > > > 23-51-11> > > > > 0-4-43> > > > > 0-0-27> > > > > > > > > > 2010> > > > > 23-54-23> > > > > 23-59-21 > > > > > 24-00-04> > > > > 0-4-58> > > > > 0-1-43> > > > > > > > > > 3000> > > > > 37-45-33 > > > > > 37-48-03> > > > > 37-51-26> > > > > 0-2-30> > > > > 0-3-23> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KPNA = KP New Ayanamsa of 2003> > > > > > > > > > * As per Astraura SW> > > > > > > > > > Note: KPSTLA or Khullar Ayanamsa is closed to Lahiri but > > > >

> > > > > > not to KPNA or KPOA (KP Old Ayanamsa).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. The Khullar Ayanamsa is now an option in Astracadabra and KCIL supporting True Astrology SW. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. This ayanamsa may be added to the list of ayanamsas in the Web and SWs: > > > > > > > > > > Aldebaran, Babylonian (Huber), Babylonian (Kugler 1), Babylonian (Kugler 2), Babylonian (Kugler 3), Babylonian (Mercia), JN Bhasin, Chandra-Hiri, DeLuce, Deva-datta, Dhira, Djwhal Khoo (Khul), Drik (Thiru Ganithan), Fagan-Bradley (Fagan), Galactic Center, Hipparchos, Jagannatha, Krushna, KP (Krishnamurti) , KP Straight Line, KP Straight Line (Adjusted), Lahiri (Chitrapaksha) , True Chitrapaksha, Larry Ely, Raman , Rosicrucian,

Savana, Sassanian, Takra I, Takra II, Usha-Shashi, Tarun Chopra, Yuketswar, Mod. Yuketswar, Vakya, Wilhelm Ardra, zeta Pisces,...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Amit" <amitchauhan05@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > respected Tin Win ji and other members,> > > > > > today i was going through an article on btr by s.p. khullar on the net and found it little interesting but in the example given he had used khullar ayanamsa which is not given in my

s/w. kindly throw some light as to how to custumize this ayanamsa (what value to deduct/add from kpna) for calculation purpose. Thanks in advance> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Amit> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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January 22, 2010

Dear TW

Thanks for going through my message. I think you would have noticed that in my

message, I quoted a word " meeting of Dasa lord to some Specific Conditions " in

Khullar's Sub Sub Method -- for birth of child or death of native or death of

native's father etc. Not only Dasa Lord should meet " Specific Conditions " for

enacting a particular event but transit of slow moving planets also to meet the

some specific conditions coupled with promise of the that particular cuspal sub

sub lord. For example, a person would have lost his father When Jupiter was

transiting in Aquarius i.e. in the sign of Saturn. Then, why he has not lost his

father when Jupiter transited in the Capricorn one year ago ,which is again the

sign of Saturn. Further more, the same Jupiter must have transited 12 years

back in the same Capricorn but at that time death has not taken place. If you

point your finger at the Dasa lords, the Dasa lords were also significator for 4

and 9 in case of longer period ailment of the native's father. Further more,

he has created a concept of Zero Longevity Chart (ZLC) which gives best

explanation for " Still Born Baby " . In my opinion, I rate his theory as good

and working as he has incorporated all the corrective measure for true

prediction of an event. Still, I am not under-rating any other system but want

to explain Why we can not switch over to a better thing which useful for today's

requirement?

Thanks

With regards,

K H A S

> TW <tw853

>

> Fri, 22 January, 2010 8:40:54 AM

> Re: khullar ayanamsa

>

> Â

> Dear Khas,

> Thank you for mentioning not serious difference in 'astrological principles'

in KB and KCIL, other than the minor BTR supporting genetical connections which

are also attempted in some BTR methods,

> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 30596

> and not so sure supplementary timing of death which takes several strong

aspects to cook the goose, astrologically speaking, as said by Judith Hill in

'Medical Astrology,'( Stellium Press, 2004, pp 108-111), giving 25 transits of

death.

> Thanks and regards,

> TW

>

> @gro ups.com, " Khas " <caspal_1@ .> wrote:

> >

> > Dear TW and friends,

> >

> > " By Sound Astrological Principle " , I mean for example:

> >

> > According to the fundamental principle of astrology, an event takes place

only when Sun and Moon occupy a particular zodiacal position. Corresponding to

this position, due to interaction of Sun and Moon, an Ascendant is formed. Now

birth of human being is an event in the life of father. Father is represented by

9th house/cusp in the native's chart. To rectify a chart, Mr. Khullar says that

the position of Moon at the time of birth has to be coruled by those planets

which are strong significators of 1,7 and 10 ( 2, 5 and 11 with respect to 9th

house).

> >

> > Similarly, in a chart, all the 9 planets may be significators of death. But

death takes place only in a particular Dasa. Mr. Khullar has given specific

conditions which the Dasa Lord should meet to cause death. Similarly, at the

time of death, Saturn transit only in a particular sign, the lord of which

should justify some specific conditions. Similarly, at the time of birth of a

child Moon Star Lord of the child has to satisfy certain conditions and also be

a strong significator of 2,5 and 11 in the chart of the father or mother (for

first child).

> >

> > Similarly, at the time of death, the star lord of the Moon has to satisfy

certain specific conditions and also has to be a strong significator of death.

All these things are explained by him in his books especially in his latest book

Key to Lean Sub Sub and Cuspal Inter Link Theory.

> >

> > A dedicated astrologer who reads his books can easily understand the

specific conditions mentioned by him based on the sound principles of astrology.

His books are published by M/s. Sagar Publications , New Delhi

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > KHAS

> >

> > @gro ups.com, " TW " <tw853@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Friends,

> > > Could you kindly elaborate what " sound astrologically concepts " in KCIL,

not included in KB? Pl be specific to understand what do you mean.

> > > Thanks and regards,

> > > TW

> > >

> > > @gro ups.com, " Khas " <caspal_1@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ramani

> > > >

> > > > The difference between Khullar System and Baskar System is not only

usuage of Sub Sub and Sub, Khullar system handles each thing using sound

astrologically concepts

> > > >

> > > > Khullar Books are available with M/s. Sagar Publication, Janpath, Behind

Bank of Baroda Building, New Delhi.. It is also available in Chennai at Mylapore

area.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Khas

> > > > @gro ups.com, " TW " <tw853@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr. Ramani ji,

> > > > > The main difference is using cuspal interlinks by 'sub' in KB and 'sub

sub' in KCIL.

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > TW

> > > > >

> > > > > @gro ups.com, " kadavasalramani "

<kadavasalramani@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Shri TWji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I understand that Shri Khullar has published Cuspal Interlink

> > > > > > system. Is it replica of KB System by Shri K.Baskaran

> > > > > > of Madurai or it is different. Could you find out any difference

between the two, Sir? Where this book is

> > > > > > available?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > TW

> > > > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 9:40 PM

> > > > > > Re: khullar ayanamsa

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Khullar Ayanamsa

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. The Khullar Ayanamsa is generally calculated by the following

formula:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*((YR- 292)+(261/ 365)+(((MN- 1)*30+DY)

/365))

> > > > > >

> > > > > > YR stands for year

> > > > > >

> > > > > > MN stands for Month

> > > > > >

> > > > > > DY stands for Day

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. It is generally the same as the KP straight line (Adjusted)

Ayanamsa (KPSTLA) which is supported by KPAstro initial version to 3.5.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > KPSTLA = T*P/3600

> > > > > >

> > > > > > where

> > > > > >

> > > > > > T = Year for calculation - 291 (zero ayanamsa year for KP Ayanamsa)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > P = Newcomb's annual precession rate = 50.2388475 sec (for KP

Ayanamsa)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Note: For T as a fractional/decimal year taking days between

required date and 15th April, it gives up to date ayanamsa value.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 30575

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3. For example, for Tony Blair DOB May 6th 1953, Khullar ayanamsa

23:11:40

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://www.scribd. com/doc/6748971/ Blair-> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3.1. AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*((YR- 292)+(261/ 365)+(((MN-

1)*30+DY) /365))

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (YR-292)+(261/ 365) = (1953-292)+0. 715068= 1639.715068 i.e. as the

original formula gives the value for April 15, one more year than 291 is

subtracted and then 261/365 for April 15 to December 31 is added in order to get

January 1st value..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > {(MN-1)*30+DY) }/365= {(5-1)*30+6} /365=126/ 365=0.345205, i.e. the

decimal year from January 1st to May 6th.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1639.715068+ 0.345205= 1.060273

> > > > > >

> > > > > > AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*(1. 060273)= 23:11:40 (Khullar ayanamsa)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3.2. KPSTLA = T*P/3600

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3.2.1. (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662*50.2388475/ 3600=23:11: 37

for April 15th 1953

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ayanamsa value for April 15th to May 6th= 50.2388475 (21/365)= 3 sec

> > > > > >

> > > > > > KPSTLA = 23:11:37 + 00:00:03= 23:11:40 for May 6th 1953

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3.2.2. By taking a decimal year from April 15th to May 6th

(1662+21/365= 1662.0575) ,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > KPSTLA = (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662.0575*50. 2388475/3600=

23:11:40

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4.. Comparison of Ayanamsa Values (As of 1st Jan in D-M-S)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Year

> > > > > > KPNA

> > > > > > KPSTLA

> > > > > > LAHIRI*

> > > > > > KPSTLA

> > > > > >

> > > > > > minus

> > > > > >

> > > > > > KPNA

> > > > > > Lahiri

> > > > > >

> > > > > > minus

> > > > > >

> > > > > > STLA

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1000

> > > > > > 09-50-25

> > > > > > 09-53-25

> > > > > > 09-55-12

> > > > > > 0-3-00

> > > > > > 0-1-47

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1800

> > > > > > 20-58-33

> > > > > > 21-03-16

> > > > > > 21-03-45

> > > > > > 0-4-43

> > > > > > 0-0-29

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1850

> > > > > > 21-40-24

> > > > > > 21-45-08

> > > > > > 21-45-37

> > > > > > 0-4-44

> > > > > > 0-0-29

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1900

> > > > > > 22-22 16

> > > > > > 22-27-00

> > > > > > 22-27-56

> > > > > > 0-4-44

> > > > > > 0-0-56

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1950

> > > > > > 23-04-08

> > > > > > 23-08-52

> > > > > > 23-09-27

> > > > > > 0-4-48

> > > > > > 0-0-35

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2000

> > > > > > 23-46-01

> > > > > > 23-50-44

> > > > > > 23-51-11

> > > > > > 0-4-43

> > > > > > 0-0-27

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2010

> > > > > > 23-54-23

> > > > > > 23-59-21

> > > > > > 24-00-04

> > > > > > 0-4-58

> > > > > > 0-1-43

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3000

> > > > > > 37-45-33

> > > > > > 37-48-03

> > > > > > 37-51-26

> > > > > > 0-2-30

> > > > > > 0-3-23

> > > > > >

> > > > > > KPNA = KP New Ayanamsa of 2003

> > > > > >

> > > > > > * As per Astraura SW

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Note: KPSTLA or Khullar Ayanamsa is closed to Lahiri but

> > > > > >

> > > > > > not to KPNA or KPOA (KP Old Ayanamsa).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5. The Khullar Ayanamsa is now an option in Astracadabra and KCIL

supporting True Astrology SW.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6. This ayanamsa may be added to the list of ayanamsas in the Web

and SWs:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Aldebaran, Babylonian (Huber), Babylonian (Kugler 1), Babylonian

(Kugler 2), Babylonian (Kugler 3), Babylonian (Mercia), JN Bhasin, Chandra-Hiri,

DeLuce, Deva-datta, Dhira, Djwhal Khoo (Khul), Drik (Thiru Ganithan),

Fagan-Bradley (Fagan), Galactic Center, Hipparchos, Jagannatha, Krushna, KP

(Krishnamurti) , KP Straight Line, KP Straight Line (Adjusted), Lahiri

(Chitrapaksha) , True Chitrapaksha, Larry Ely, Raman , Rosicrucian, Savana,

Sassanian, Takra I, Takra II, Usha-Shashi, Tarun Chopra, Yuketswar, Mod.

Yuketswar, Vakya, Wilhelm Ardra, zeta Pisces,...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Amit " <amitchauhan05@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > respected Tin Win ji and other members,

> > > > > > > today i was going through an article on btr by s.p. khullar on the

net and found it little interesting but in the example given he had used khullar

ayanamsa which is not given in my s/w. kindly throw some light as to how to

custumize this ayanamsa (what value to deduct/add from kpna) for calculation

purpose. Thanks in advance

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Amit

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

>

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DearÂ Yogesh Lajmi JI,

Sorry it is out of context but this seems to me unjustice....

//Normally,only the mother knows who the real

father is//

In Normal case...why focus in on mother,it could be vice versa....can

you please help me to understand this?

------------------

Regards,

Devisingh

Yogesh Lajmi wrote:

Â

Dear KHAS,

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Normally,only the mother knows

who the real father is...hence wouldn't it

be wiser to take the IVth house instead of the IXth house for Father...?

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Kindly enlighten please...I had written to Khullar

and his followers about this,but got no convincing answer as yet...I

hope you can clarify please...

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Yogesh Lajmi.

TW

Fri, 22 January,

2010 8:40:54 AM

Re: khullar ayanamsa

Â

Dear Khas,

Thank you for mentioning not serious difference in 'astrological

principles' in KB and KCIL, other than the minor BTR supporting

genetical connections which are also attempted in some BTR methods,

http://groups. / group/k_p_

system/message/ 30596

and not so sure supplementary timing of death which takes several

strong aspects to cook the goose, astrologically speaking, as said by

Judith Hill in 'Medical Astrology,'( Stellium Press, 2004, pp 108-111),

giving 25 transits of death.

Thanks and regards,

TW

@gro

ups.com, "Khas" <caspal_1@.. .> wrote:

>

> Dear TW and friends,

>

> "By Sound Astrological Principle", I mean for example:

>

> According to the fundamental principle of astrology, an event

takes place only when Sun and Moon occupy a particular zodiacal

position. Corresponding to this position, due to interaction of Sun and

Moon, an Ascendant is formed. Now birth of human being is an event in

the life of father. Father is represented by 9th house/cusp in the

native's chart. To rectify a chart, Mr. Khullar says that the position

of Moon at the time of birth has to be coruled by those planets which

are strong significators of 1,7 and 10 ( 2, 5 and 11 with respect to

9th house).

>

> Similarly, in a chart, all the 9 planets may be significators of

death. But death takes place only in a particular Dasa. Mr. Khullar has

given specific conditions which the Dasa Lord should meet to cause

death. Similarly, at the time of death, Saturn transit only in a

particular sign, the lord of which should justify some specific

conditions. Similarly, at the time of birth of a child Moon Star Lord

of the child has to satisfy certain conditions and also be a strong

significator of 2,5 and 11 in the chart of the father or mother (for

first child).

>

> Similarly, at the time of death, the star lord of the Moon has to

satisfy certain specific conditions and also has to be a strong

significator of death. All these things are explained by him in his

books especially in his latest book Key to Lean Sub Sub and Cuspal

Inter Link Theory.

>

> A dedicated astrologer who reads his books can easily understand

the specific conditions mentioned by him based on the sound principles

of astrology. His books are published by M/s. Sagar Publications , New

Delhi

>

> Regards

>

> KHAS

>

> @gro

ups.com, "TW" <tw853@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> > Could you kindly elaborate what "sound astrologically

concepts" in KCIL, not included in KB? Pl be specific to understand

what do you mean.

> > Thanks and regards,

> > TW

> >

> > @gro

ups.com, "Khas" <caspal_1@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ramani

> > >

> > > The difference between Khullar System and Baskar System

is not only usuage of Sub Sub and Sub, Khullar system handles each

thing using sound astrologically concepts

> > >

> > > Khullar Books are available with M/s. Sagar Publication,

Janpath, Behind Bank of Baroda Building, New Delhi. It is also

available in Chennai at Mylapore area.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Khas

> > > @gro

ups.com, "TW" <tw853@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mr. Ramani ji,

> > > > The main difference is using cuspal interlinks by

'sub' in KB and 'sub sub' in KCIL.

> > > > Regards,

> > > > TW

> > > >

> > > > @gro

ups.com, "kadavasalramani" <kadavasalramani@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Shri TWji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I understand that Shri Khullar has published

Cuspal Interlink

> > > > > system. Is it replica of KB System by Shri

K.Baskaran

> > > > > of Madurai or it is different. Could you find

out any difference between the two, Sir? Where this book is

> > > > > available?

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > K.S.V.Ramani

> > > > > -

> > > > > TW

> > > > > @gro

ups.com

> > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 9:40 PM

> > > > > Re: khullar ayanamsa

> > > > >

> > > > > Khullar Ayanamsa

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. The Khullar Ayanamsa is generally

calculated by the following formula:

> > > > >

> > > > > AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*((YR- 292)+(261/

365)+(((MN- 1)*30+DY) /365))

> > > > >

> > > > > YR stands for year

> > > > >

> > > > > MN stands for Month

> > > > >

> > > > > DY stands for Day

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. It is generally the same as the KP straight

line (Adjusted) Ayanamsa (KPSTLA) which is supported by KPAstro initial

version to 3.5.

> > > > >

> > > > > KPSTLA = T*P/3600

> > > > >

> > > > > where

> > > > >

> > > > > T = Year for calculation - 291 (zero ayanamsa

year for KP Ayanamsa)

> > > > >

> > > > > P = Newcomb's annual precession rate =

50.2388475 sec (for KP Ayanamsa)

> > > > >

> > > > > Note: For T as a fractional/decimal year

taking days between required date and 15th April, it gives up to date

ayanamsa value.

> > > > >

> > > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_

system/message/ 30575

> > > > >

> > > > > 3. For example, for Tony Blair DOB May 6th

1953, Khullar ayanamsa 23:11:40

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.scribd. com/doc/6748971/ Blair-> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > 3.1. AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*((YR-

292)+(261/ 365)+(((MN- 1)*30+DY) /365))

> > > > >

> > > > > (YR-292)+(261/ 365) = (1953-292)+0. 715068=

1639..715068 i.e. as the original formula gives the value for April 15,

one more year than 291 is subtracted and then 261/365 for April 15 to

December 31 is added in order to get January 1st value.

> > > > >

> > > > > {(MN-1)*30+DY) }/365= {(5-1)*30+6} /365=126/

365=0.345205, i.e. the decimal year from January 1st to May 6th.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1639.715068+ 0.345205= 1.060273

> > > > >

> > > > > AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*(1. 060273)=

23:11:40 (Khullar ayanamsa)

> > > > >

> > > > > 3.2. KPSTLA = T*P/3600

> > > > >

> > > > > 3.2.1. (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600=

1662*50.2388475/ 3600=23:11: 37 for April 15th 1953

> > > > >

> > > > > Ayanamsa value for April 15th to May 6th=

50.2388475 (21/365)= 3 sec

> > > > >

> > > > > KPSTLA = 23:11:37 + 00:00:03= 23:11:40 for May

6th 1953

> > > > >

> > > > > 3.2.2. By taking a decimal year from April

15th to May 6th (1662+21/365= 1662.0575) ,

> > > > >

> > > > > KPSTLA = (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600=

1662.0575*50. 2388475/3600= 23:11:40

> > > > >

> > > > > 4. Comparison of Ayanamsa Values (As of 1st

Jan in D-M-S)

> > > > >

> > > > > Year

> > > > > KPNA

> > > > > KPSTLA

> > > > > LAHIRI*

> > > > > KPSTLA

> > > > >

> > > > > minus

> > > > >

> > > > > KPNA

> > > > > Lahiri

> > > > >

> > > > > minus

> > > > >

> > > > > STLA

> > > > >

> > > > > 1000

> > > > > 09-50-25

> > > > > 09-53-25

> > > > > 09-55-12

> > > > > 0-3-00

> > > > > 0-1-47

> > > > >

> > > > > 1800

> > > > > 20-58-33

> > > > > 21-03-16

> > > > > 21-03-45

> > > > > 0-4-43

> > > > > 0-0-29

> > > > >

> > > > > 1850

> > > > > 21-40-24

> > > > > 21-45-08

> > > > > 21-45-37

> > > > > 0-4-44

> > > > > 0-0-29

> > > > >

> > > > > 1900

> > > > > 22-22 16

> > > > > 22-27-00

> > > > > 22-27-56

> > > > > 0-4-44

> > > > > 0-0-56

> > > > >

> > > > > 1950

> > > > > 23-04-08

> > > > > 23-08-52

> > > > > 23-09-27

> > > > > 0-4-48

> > > > > 0-0-35

> > > > >

> > > > > 2000

> > > > > 23-46-01

> > > > > 23-50-44

> > > > > 23-51-11

> > > > > 0-4-43

> > > > > 0-0-27

> > > > >

> > > > > 2010

> > > > > 23-54-23

> > > > > 23-59-21

> > > > > 24-00-04

> > > > > 0-4-58

> > > > > 0-1-43

> > > > >

> > > > > 3000

> > > > > 37-45-33

> > > > > 37-48-03

> > > > > 37-51-26

> > > > > 0-2-30

> > > > > 0-3-23

> > > > >

> > > > > KPNA = KP New Ayanamsa of 2003

> > > > >

> > > > > * As per Astraura SW

> > > > >

> > > > > Note: KPSTLA or Khullar Ayanamsa is closed to

Lahiri but

> > > > >

> > > > > not to KPNA or KPOA (KP Old Ayanamsa).

> > > > >

> > > > > 5. The Khullar Ayanamsa is now an option in

Astracadabra and KCIL supporting True Astrology SW.

> > > > >

> > > > > 6. This ayanamsa may be added to the list of

ayanamsas in the Web and SWs:

> > > > >

> > > > > Aldebaran, Babylonian (Huber), Babylonian

(Kugler 1), Babylonian (Kugler 2), Babylonian (Kugler 3), Babylonian

(Mercia), JN Bhasin, Chandra-Hiri, DeLuce, Deva-datta, Dhira, Djwhal

Khoo (Khul), Drik (Thiru Ganithan), Fagan-Bradley (Fagan), Galactic

Center, Hipparchos, Jagannatha, Krushna, KP (Krishnamurti) , KP

Straight Line, KP Straight Line (Adjusted), Lahiri (Chitrapaksha) ,

True Chitrapaksha, Larry Ely, Raman , Rosicrucian, Savana, Sassanian,

Takra I, Takra II, Usha-Shashi, Tarun Chopra, Yuketswar, Mod.

Yuketswar, Vakya, Wilhelm Ardra, zeta Pisces,...

> > > > >

> > > > > @gro

ups.com, "Amit" <amitchauhan05@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > respected Tin Win ji and other members,

> > > > > > today i was going through an article on

btr by s.p. khullar on the net and found it little interesting but in

the example given he had used khullar ayanamsa which is not given in my

s/w. kindly throw some light as to how to custumize this ayanamsa (what

value to deduct/add from kpna) for calculation purpose. Thanks in

advance

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Amit

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Very briliant Logic!Thanks for presenting this extraordinary logic!!

By the way, just for curiosity:1. What is the difference in formula or rules for determining the relationship

between 9th Cusp and Ascendant while knowing and not knowing who

is the real father of the native?

2. What are the rules to rectify the real father of a native if the intrigue mother

do not disclose it?

regards,

Raghunath--- On Fri, 22/1/10, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote:

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmiRe: Re: khullar ayanamsa Date: Friday, 22 January, 2010, 6:59 AM

Dear KHAS,

Normally,only the mother knows who the real father is...hence wouldn't it be wiser to take the IVth house instead of the IXth house for Father...? Kindly enlighten please...I had written to Khullar and his followers about this,but got no convincing answer as yet...I hope you can clarify please...

Yogesh Lajmi.

TW <tw853 >@gro ups.comFri, 22 January, 2010 8:40:54 AM Re: khullar ayanamsa

Dear Khas,Thank you for mentioning not serious difference in 'astrological principles' in KB and KCIL, other than the minor BTR supporting genetical connections which are also attempted in some BTR methods, http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 30596 and not so sure supplementary timing of death which takes several strong aspects to cook the goose, astrologically speaking, as said by Judith Hill in 'Medical Astrology,'( Stellium Press, 2004, pp 108-111), giving 25 transits of death. Thanks and regards,TW@gro ups.com, "Khas" <caspal_1@.. .> wrote:>> > > Dear TW and friends,> > "By Sound

Astrological Principle", I mean for example:> > According to the fundamental principle of astrology, an event takes place only when Sun and Moon occupy a particular zodiacal position. Corresponding to this position, due to interaction of Sun and Moon, an Ascendant is formed. Now birth of human being is an event in the life of father. Father is represented by 9th house/cusp in the native's chart. To rectify a chart, Mr. Khullar says that the position of Moon at the time of birth has to be coruled by those planets which are strong significators of 1,7 and 10 ( 2, 5 and 11 with respect to 9th house).> > Similarly, in a chart, all the 9 planets may be significators of death. But death takes place only in a particular Dasa. Mr. Khullar has given specific conditions which the Dasa Lord should meet to cause death. Similarly, at the time of death, Saturn transit only in a particular sign, the lord of which should justify some

specific conditions. Similarly, at the time of birth of a child Moon Star Lord of the child has to satisfy certain conditions and also be a strong significator of 2,5 and 11 in the chart of the father or mother (for first child).> > Similarly, at the time of death, the star lord of the Moon has to satisfy certain specific conditions and also has to be a strong significator of death. All these things are explained by him in his books especially in his latest book Key to Lean Sub Sub and Cuspal Inter Link Theory. > > A dedicated astrologer who reads his books can easily understand the specific conditions mentioned by him based on the sound principles of astrology. His books are published by M/s. Sagar Publications , New Delhi> > Regards> > KHAS> > > > @gro ups.com, "TW" <tw853@> wrote:> >> > Dear Friends,> > Could you kindly elaborate what "sound astrologically concepts" in KCIL, not included in KB? Pl be specific to understand what do you mean.> > Thanks and regards,> > TW> > > > @gro ups.com, "Khas" <caspal_1@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ramani> > > > > > The difference between Khullar System and Baskar System is not only usuage of Sub Sub and Sub, Khullar system handles each thing using sound astrologically concepts> > > > > > Khullar Books are available with M/s. Sagar Publication, Janpath, Behind

Bank of Baroda Building, New Delhi. It is also available in Chennai at Mylapore area.> > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Khas> > > @gro ups.com, "TW" <tw853@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Mr. Ramani ji,> > > > The main difference is using cuspal interlinks by 'sub' in KB and 'sub sub' in KCIL. > > > > Regards,> > > > TW > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "kadavasalramani" <kadavasalramani@ > wrote:> > > >

>> > > > > Dear Shri TWji,> > > > > > > > > > I understand that Shri Khullar has published Cuspal Interlink> > > > > system. Is it replica of KB System by Shri K.Baskaran> > > > > of Madurai or it is different. Could you find out any difference between the two, Sir? Where this book is > > > > > available?> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > > - > > > > > TW > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 9:40 PM> > > >

> Re: khullar ayanamsa> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khullar Ayanamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. The Khullar Ayanamsa is generally calculated by the following formula:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*((YR- 292)+(261/ 365)+(((MN- 1)*30+DY) /365))> > > > > > > > > > YR stands for year> > > > > > > > > > MN stands for Month> > > > > > > > > > DY stands for Day> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. It is generally the same as the

KP straight line (Adjusted) Ayanamsa (KPSTLA) which is supported by KPAstro initial version to 3.5. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KPSTLA = T*P/3600> > > > > > > > > > where> > > > > > > > > > T = Year for calculation - 291 (zero ayanamsa year for KP Ayanamsa)> > > > > > > > > > P = Newcomb's annual precession rate = 50.2388475 sec (for KP Ayanamsa)> > > > > > > > > > Note: For T as a fractional/decimal year taking days between required date and 15th April, it gives up to date ayanamsa value.> > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 30575> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. For example, for Tony Blair DOB May 6th 1953, Khullar ayanamsa 23:11:40> > > > > > > > > > http://www.scribd. com/doc/6748971/ Blair-Tony> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.1. AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*((YR- 292)+(261/ 365)+(((MN- 1)*30+DY) /365))> > > > > > > > > > (YR-292)+(261/ 365) = (1953-292)+0. 715068= 1639..715068 i.e. as the original formula gives the value for April 15, one more year than 291 is subtracted and then 261/365 for April 15 to December 31 is added in order to get January 1st value.> > > > > > > > > > {(MN-1)*30+DY) }/365= {(5-1)*30+6} /365=126/

365=0.345205, i.e. the decimal year from January 1st to May 6th.> > > > > > > > > > 1639.715068+ 0.345205= 1.060273> > > > > > > > > > AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*(1. 060273)= 23:11:40 (Khullar ayanamsa)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.2. KPSTLA = T*P/3600> > > > > > > > > > 3.2.1. (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662*50.2388475/ 3600=23:11: 37 for April 15th 1953 > > > > > > > > > > Ayanamsa value for April 15th to May 6th= 50.2388475 (21/365)= 3 sec> > > > > > > > > > KPSTLA = 23:11:37 + 00:00:03= 23:11:40 for May 6th 1953> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.2.2. By taking a decimal year from April 15th

to May 6th (1662+21/365= 1662.0575) ,> > > > > > > > > > KPSTLA = (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662.0575*50. 2388475/3600= 23:11:40> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Comparison of Ayanamsa Values (As of 1st Jan in D-M-S)> > > > > > > > > > Year> > > > > KPNA> > > > > KPSTLA> > > > > LAHIRI*> > > > > KPSTLA> > > > > > > > > > minus> > > > > > > > > > KPNA> > > > > Lahiri> > > > > > > > > > minus> > > > > > > > > > STLA> > > > > > > > > > 1000> > > > > 09-50-25 > > > > > 09-53-25

> > > > > 09-55-12> > > > > 0-3-00> > > > > 0-1-47> > > > > > > > > > 1800> > > > > 20-58-33> > > > > 21-03-16> > > > > 21-03-45> > > > > 0-4-43> > > > > 0-0-29> > > > > > > > > > 1850> > > > > 21-40-24 > > > > > 21-45-08 > > > > > 21-45-37> > > > > 0-4-44> > > > > 0-0-29> > > > > > > > > > 1900> > > > > 22-22 16 > > > > > 22-27-00 > > > > > 22-27-56> > > > > 0-4-44> > > > > 0-0-56> > > > > > > > > > 1950> > > > > 23-04-08 > > > >

> 23-08-52 > > > > > 23-09-27 > > > > > 0-4-48> > > > > 0-0-35> > > > > > > > > > 2000> > > > > 23-46-01 > > > > > 23-50-44 > > > > > 23-51-11> > > > > 0-4-43> > > > > 0-0-27> > > > > > > > > > 2010> > > > > 23-54-23> > > > > 23-59-21 > > > > > 24-00-04> > > > > 0-4-58> > > > > 0-1-43> > > > > > > > > > 3000> > > > > 37-45-33 > > > > > 37-48-03> > > > > 37-51-26> > > > > 0-2-30> > > > > 0-3-23> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KPNA = KP New Ayanamsa of

2003> > > > > > > > > > * As per Astraura SW> > > > > > > > > > Note: KPSTLA or Khullar Ayanamsa is closed to Lahiri but > > > > > > > > > > not to KPNA or KPOA (KP Old Ayanamsa).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. The Khullar Ayanamsa is now an option in Astracadabra and KCIL supporting True Astrology SW. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. This ayanamsa may be added to the list of ayanamsas in the Web and SWs: > > > > > > > > > > Aldebaran, Babylonian (Huber), Babylonian (Kugler 1), Babylonian (Kugler 2), Babylonian (Kugler 3), Babylonian (Mercia), JN Bhasin, Chandra-Hiri, DeLuce, Deva-datta, Dhira, Djwhal Khoo (Khul), Drik (Thiru

Ganithan), Fagan-Bradley (Fagan), Galactic Center, Hipparchos, Jagannatha, Krushna, KP (Krishnamurti) , KP Straight Line, KP Straight Line (Adjusted), Lahiri (Chitrapaksha) , True Chitrapaksha, Larry Ely, Raman , Rosicrucian, Savana, Sassanian, Takra I, Takra II, Usha-Shashi, Tarun Chopra, Yuketswar, Mod. Yuketswar, Vakya, Wilhelm Ardra, zeta Pisces,...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Amit" <amitchauhan05@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > >

> > respected Tin Win ji and other members,> > > > > > today i was going through an article on btr by s.p. khullar on the net and found it little interesting but in the example given he had used khullar ayanamsa which is not given in my s/w. kindly throw some light as to how to custumize this ayanamsa (what value to deduct/add from kpna) for calculation purpose. Thanks in advance> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Amit> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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January 22, 2010

Dear Ragunath Ji

He pointed real logic to see from which house, and I am agree with him and most of other

also, Kindly think again & deeply,

Thanks & Regards

suresh awasthi

--- On Fri, 1/22/10, Raghunath Dhungel <raghunathdhungel wrote:

Raghunath Dhungel <raghunathdhungelRe: Re: khullar ayanamsa Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 12:08 PM

Very briliant Logic!Thanks for presenting this extraordinary logic!!

By the way, just for curiosity:1. What is the difference in formula or rules for determining the relationship

between 9th Cusp and Ascendant while knowing and not knowing who

is the real father of the native?

2. What are the rules to rectify the real father of a native if the intrigue mother

do not disclose it?

regards,

Raghunath--- On Fri, 22/1/10, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >Re: Re: khullar ayanamsa@gro ups.comFriday, 22 January, 2010, 6:59 AM

Dear KHAS,

Normally,only the mother knows who the real father is...hence wouldn't it be wiser to take the IVth house instead of the IXth house for Father...? Kindly enlighten please...I had written to Khullar and his followers about this,but got no convincing answer as yet...I hope you can clarify please...

Yogesh Lajmi.

TW <tw853 >@gro ups.comFri, 22 January, 2010 8:40:54 AM Re: khullar ayanamsa

Dear Khas,Thank you for mentioning not serious difference in 'astrological principles' in KB and KCIL, other than the minor BTR supporting genetical connections which are also attempted in some BTR methods, http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 30596 and not so sure supplementary timing of death which takes several strong aspects to cook the goose, astrologically speaking, as said by Judith Hill in 'Medical Astrology,'( Stellium Press, 2004, pp 108-111), giving 25 transits of death. Thanks and regards,TW@gro ups.com, "Khas" <caspal_1@.. .> wrote:>> > > Dear TW and friends,> > "By Sound Astrological Principle", I mean for

example:> > According to the fundamental principle of astrology, an event takes place only when Sun and Moon occupy a particular zodiacal position. Corresponding to this position, due to interaction of Sun and Moon, an Ascendant is formed. Now birth of human being is an event in the life of father. Father is represented by 9th house/cusp in the native's chart. To rectify a chart, Mr. Khullar says that the position of Moon at the time of birth has to be coruled by those planets which are strong significators of 1,7 and 10 ( 2, 5 and 11 with respect to 9th house).> > Similarly, in a chart, all the 9 planets may be significators of death. But death takes place only in a particular Dasa. Mr. Khullar has given specific conditions which the Dasa Lord should meet to cause death. Similarly, at the time of death, Saturn transit only in a particular sign, the lord of which should justify some specific conditions. Similarly, at the time

of birth of a child Moon Star Lord of the child has to satisfy certain conditions and also be a strong significator of 2,5 and 11 in the chart of the father or mother (for first child).> > Similarly, at the time of death, the star lord of the Moon has to satisfy certain specific conditions and also has to be a strong significator of death. All these things are explained by him in his books especially in his latest book Key to Lean Sub Sub and Cuspal Inter Link Theory. > > A dedicated astrologer who reads his books can easily understand the specific conditions mentioned by him based on the sound principles of astrology. His books are published by M/s. Sagar Publications , New Delhi> > Regards> > KHAS> > > > @gro ups.com, "TW"

<tw853@> wrote:> >> > Dear Friends,> > Could you kindly elaborate what "sound astrologically concepts" in KCIL, not included in KB? Pl be specific to understand what do you mean.> > Thanks and regards,> > TW> > > > @gro ups.com, "Khas" <caspal_1@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ramani> > > > > > The difference between Khullar System and Baskar System is not only usuage of Sub Sub and Sub, Khullar system handles each thing using sound astrologically concepts> > > > > > Khullar Books are available with M/s. Sagar Publication, Janpath, Behind Bank of Baroda Building, New Delhi. It is also available in Chennai at Mylapore area.> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Khas> > > @gro ups.com, "TW" <tw853@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Mr. Ramani ji,> > > > The main difference is using cuspal interlinks by 'sub' in KB and 'sub sub' in KCIL. > > > > Regards,> > > > TW > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "kadavasalramani" <kadavasalramani@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Shri TWji,> > > > > > > > > > I understand that Shri Khullar has published Cuspal Interlink> > > > > system. Is it replica of

KB System by Shri K.Baskaran> > > > > of Madurai or it is different. Could you find out any difference between the two, Sir? Where this book is > > > > > available?> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > > - > > > > > TW > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 9:40 PM> > > > > Re: khullar ayanamsa> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khullar Ayanamsa > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1. The Khullar Ayanamsa is generally calculated by the following formula:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*((YR- 292)+(261/ 365)+(((MN- 1)*30+DY) /365))> > > > > > > > > > YR stands for year> > > > > > > > > > MN stands for Month> > > > > > > > > > DY stands for Day> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. It is generally the same as the KP straight line (Adjusted) Ayanamsa (KPSTLA) which is supported by KPAstro initial version to 3.5. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KPSTLA = T*P/3600> > > > >

> > > > > where> > > > > > > > > > T = Year for calculation - 291 (zero ayanamsa year for KP Ayanamsa)> > > > > > > > > > P = Newcomb's annual precession rate = 50.2388475 sec (for KP Ayanamsa)> > > > > > > > > > Note: For T as a fractional/decimal year taking days between required date and 15th April, it gives up to date ayanamsa value.> > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 30575> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. For example, for Tony Blair DOB May 6th 1953, Khullar ayanamsa 23:11:40> > > > > > > > > > http://www.scribd. com/doc/6748971/ Blair-Tony> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.1. AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*((YR- 292)+(261/ 365)+(((MN- 1)*30+DY) /365))> > > > > > > > > > (YR-292)+(261/ 365) = (1953-292)+0. 715068= 1639..715068 i.e. as the original formula gives the value for April 15, one more year than 291 is subtracted and then 261/365 for April 15 to December 31 is added in order to get January 1st value.> > > > > > > > > > {(MN-1)*30+DY) }/365= {(5-1)*30+6} /365=126/ 365=0.345205, i.e. the decimal year from January 1st to May 6th.> > > > > > > > > > 1639.715068+ 0.345205= 1.060273> > > > > > > > > > AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*(1.

060273)= 23:11:40 (Khullar ayanamsa)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.2. KPSTLA = T*P/3600> > > > > > > > > > 3.2.1. (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662*50.2388475/ 3600=23:11: 37 for April 15th 1953 > > > > > > > > > > Ayanamsa value for April 15th to May 6th= 50.2388475 (21/365)= 3 sec> > > > > > > > > > KPSTLA = 23:11:37 + 00:00:03= 23:11:40 for May 6th 1953> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.2.2. By taking a decimal year from April 15th to May 6th (1662+21/365= 1662.0575) ,> > > > > > > > > > KPSTLA = (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662.0575*50. 2388475/3600= 23:11:40> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 4. Comparison of Ayanamsa Values (As of 1st Jan in D-M-S)> > > > > > > > > > Year> > > > > KPNA> > > > > KPSTLA> > > > > LAHIRI*> > > > > KPSTLA> > > > > > > > > > minus> > > > > > > > > > KPNA> > > > > Lahiri> > > > > > > > > > minus> > > > > > > > > > STLA> > > > > > > > > > 1000> > > > > 09-50-25 > > > > > 09-53-25 > > > > > 09-55-12> > > > > 0-3-00> > > > > 0-1-47> > > > > > > > > > 1800> > > > > 20-58-33> > > > >

21-03-16> > > > > 21-03-45> > > > > 0-4-43> > > > > 0-0-29> > > > > > > > > > 1850> > > > > 21-40-24 > > > > > 21-45-08 > > > > > 21-45-37> > > > > 0-4-44> > > > > 0-0-29> > > > > > > > > > 1900> > > > > 22-22 16 > > > > > 22-27-00 > > > > > 22-27-56> > > > > 0-4-44> > > > > 0-0-56> > > > > > > > > > 1950> > > > > 23-04-08 > > > > > 23-08-52 > > > > > 23-09-27 > > > > > 0-4-48> > > > > 0-0-35> > > > > > > > > > 2000> > > > > 23-46-01 > >

> > > 23-50-44 > > > > > 23-51-11> > > > > 0-4-43> > > > > 0-0-27> > > > > > > > > > 2010> > > > > 23-54-23> > > > > 23-59-21 > > > > > 24-00-04> > > > > 0-4-58> > > > > 0-1-43> > > > > > > > > > 3000> > > > > 37-45-33 > > > > > 37-48-03> > > > > 37-51-26> > > > > 0-2-30> > > > > 0-3-23> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KPNA = KP New Ayanamsa of 2003> > > > > > > > > > * As per Astraura SW> > > > > > > > > > Note: KPSTLA or Khullar Ayanamsa is closed to Lahiri but > > > > > >

> > > > not to KPNA or KPOA (KP Old Ayanamsa).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. The Khullar Ayanamsa is now an option in Astracadabra and KCIL supporting True Astrology SW. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. This ayanamsa may be added to the list of ayanamsas in the Web and SWs: > > > > > > > > > > Aldebaran, Babylonian (Huber), Babylonian (Kugler 1), Babylonian (Kugler 2), Babylonian (Kugler 3), Babylonian (Mercia), JN Bhasin, Chandra-Hiri, DeLuce, Deva-datta, Dhira, Djwhal Khoo (Khul), Drik (Thiru Ganithan), Fagan-Bradley (Fagan), Galactic Center, Hipparchos, Jagannatha, Krushna, KP (Krishnamurti) , KP Straight Line, KP Straight Line (Adjusted), Lahiri (Chitrapaksha) , True Chitrapaksha, Larry Ely, Raman , Rosicrucian, Savana,

Sassanian, Takra I, Takra II, Usha-Shashi, Tarun Chopra, Yuketswar, Mod. Yuketswar, Vakya, Wilhelm Ardra, zeta Pisces,...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "Amit" <amitchauhan05@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > respected Tin Win ji and other members,> > > > > > today i was going through an article on btr by s.p. khullar on the net and found it little interesting but in the example given he had used khullar ayanamsa which is not given in my s/w. kindly throw

some light as to how to custumize this ayanamsa (what value to deduct/add from kpna) for calculation purpose. Thanks in advance> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Amit> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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January 22, 2010

Dear Suresh,

Thanks,for your reply...Astrologically(K.P.) the IXth house,represents the TRUE father's Ascendant(and the IVth,that of the mother...and it is a fact of life,that the identity of the true Father can be authenticated only by the mother...

Strangely enough,Mr..Raghunath Dhungel seems to find it "an extra-ordinary piece of logic"... I wonder why ? During the days when he was born, I am quite certain that the technique of matching/confirming parentage with the help of "genes" was not known at all...in our Puranas also it is stressed that only the mother knows the identity of the true Father... !

By -the-way, K.P. has well-known methods which can be used to confirm parentage...

Khurana's claim of being the discoverer of the sub-sub system is totally false...Long before Khurana ever even thought about it the late Mr..M.P. Shanmugham, Mr.A.Balasekar and Mr.K.Bhaskaran all brilliant students of Mr A.R.Balan of The K.P. Astro Research Centre,Madurai, had written about it ,in 1997...and Mr.Shanmugham had written about it in his now famous book,"ASTROSECRETS & K.P."published in 1998 ! !

Kindly study K.P., carefully and properly before making such bizarre comments...and claims.

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

GOOD LUCK !

Suresh Awasthi <suresh.awasthi Cc: raghunathdhungelSent: Fri, 22 January, 2010 6:14:00 PMRe: Re: khullar ayanamsa

Dear Ragunath Ji

He pointed real logic to see from which house, and I am agree with him and most of other

also, Kindly think again & deeply,

Thanks & Regards

suresh awasthi

--- On Fri, 1/22/10, Raghunath Dhungel <raghunathdhungel@ > wrote:

Raghunath Dhungel <raghunathdhungel@ >Re: Re: khullar ayanamsa@gro ups.comFriday, January 22, 2010, 12:08 PM