K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

January 17, 2010

Respected Seniors,

I have read some where that :

(1)Gender of native can be identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.

(2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.

(3) I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:

Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. (A) Just identify children having a common father & common mother(B) identify the gender of these children

Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.

Set - I

(1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM

(2)14-11-1969 1:45AM

(3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM

Set - 2

(1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM

(2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM

(3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM

(4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM

(5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM

I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: Set - I

(1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)

Set - 2

(5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)

and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)

The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:

Set - I

(2)14-11-1969 1:45AM Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)

(3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)

Set - 2

(1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM)

(2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)

(3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM Female(Rectified time 05:17PM)

(4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)

Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.

With thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

January 18, 2010

Sir,

While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts

and time for research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work

, and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again

is another question mark.

Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But

what if this prediction turns false ?

Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents.

What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know

the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and

when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender

determination is a legal crime in the law of this country.

And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I

mean the time, efforts and research work ?

Sorry please ignore my mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to

discourage.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra

wrote:

>

> Respected Seniors,

> I have read some where that :

>

(1)Gender of native can be identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its

placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned

native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many

cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even

sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.

>

(2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of the ascendant in the chart of father

is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who

are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will

apply every where or it will fail.

> (3) I

have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of

natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a

hint which is following:

>

\

Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same

set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married

twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common

father & mother.

>

> (A) Just identify children having a common father & common mother

> (B) identify the gender of these children

>

> Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is

cochin,Kerala.

>

> Set - I

> (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM

> (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM

> (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM

>

> Set - 2

> (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM

> (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM

> (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM

> (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM

> (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM

>

> I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that:

> Set - I

> (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)

> Set - 2

> (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)

> and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)

>

> The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the

basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:

>

> Set - I

> (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)

> (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)

>

> Set - 2

> (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM)

> (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)

> (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM Female(Rectified time 05:17PM)

> (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)

>

> Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.

> With thanks & regards,

> Dhirendra Nath Misra

>

January 19, 2010

Dear Sri Bhaskar and Misraji,

I have tried many horoscopes without fruitful results. This

cannot be taken as a rule. I don't know whether Shri Gondhalekar has framed any rule under the 4 steps theory,

as he has specific rule for finding sex of the child for the

lady due for delivery. I request Shri Gondhalekar to throw

some light on this issue.

With best wishes,

K.S.V.Ramani

-

Bhaskar

Monday, January 18, 2010 9:40 PM

Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

Sir,While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark. Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country. And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?Sorry please ignore my mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. best wishes,Bhaskar. , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:>> > Respected Seniors,> I have read some where that :> (1)Gender of native can be identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.> (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.> (3) I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > > (A) Just identify children having a common father & common mother> (B) identify the gender of these children> > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala. > > Set - I> (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > Set - 2> (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > Set - I> (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> Set - 2> (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:> > > Set - I> (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > Set - 2> (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> With thanks & regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra>

January 19, 2010

Respected Bhaskar Sir,Thanks very much for your prompt response.But please don't twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime.I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is presented before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconcieved nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is alredy errected and placed before an astrologer.For example:My son was born on April 6,1998 at 10:12AM,at Haldwani,Nainital.K.P ayanamsa adopted.Sub Sub lord of ascendant is Mercury posited in Pisces.Rule so far available in this regard

failed.Birth time is recorded by qualified medical doctor and correct as per rule laid down by Samungham Ji. I am putting again my query here.I have read some where that : (1)Gender of native can be identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub

sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender. (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will

fail. (3) I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is

following: Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. (A) Just identify children having a common father & common mother(B) identify the gender of these

children Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala. Set - I (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM Set - 2 (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: Set - I (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51) Set - 2 (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50) and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother) The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars: Set - I (2)14-11-1969

1:45AM Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM) (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972) Set - 2(1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)(3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM Male(Rectified time 01:05PM) Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest. With thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Mon, January 18, 2010 9:40:40 PM Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

Sir,While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark. Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country. And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?Sorry please ignore my mail if not

found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. best wishes,Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:>> > Respected Seniors,> I have read some where that :>

(1)Gender of native can be identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.>

(2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.>

(3) I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:>

Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > > (A) Just identify children having a common father & common mother> (B) identify the gender of these children> > Birth

particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala. > > Set - I> (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > Set - 2> (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > Set - I> (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> Set - 2> (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:> > > Set - I> (2)14-11-1969

1:45AM Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > Set - 2> (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> With thanks & regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra>

January 19, 2010

Dear Mishra ji,

//Respected Seniors,I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime.I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer.//

Kind Sir..

I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...

In your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the "already born".

I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..

Again even if you like to test the "already tested" rules, on persons who have been "already born", may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?

best regards,

Bhaskar.

, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> Sir,> > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark. > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country. > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > Sorry please ignore my mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. > > best wishes,> Bhaskar.> > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:> >> > > > Respected Seniors,> > I have read some where that :> > (1)Gender of native can be identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.> > (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.> > (3) I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> > Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father & common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala. > > > > Set - I> > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > Set - 2> > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > Set - I> > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> > Set - 2> > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:> > > > > > Set - I> > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > > > Set - 2> > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >>

January 19, 2010

Respected Bhaskar Sir & Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:

Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)

(Sunil Gondhalkar's method)If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.Reference: /message/21621

Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)

Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In "Astrololgy & Atrishta" magazine April 1980.2. /message/22175

You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is

following: Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. (A) Just identify children having a common father & common mother(B) identify the gender of these

children Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala. Set - I (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM Set - 2 (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: Set - I (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51) Set - 2 (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50) and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother) The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars: Set - I (2)14-11-1969

1:45AM Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM) (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972) Set - 2 (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM Female(Rectified time 12:40PM) (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM Male(Rectified time 01:05PM) My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and whose lord is situated in a male sign or in female sign.

With thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

Dear Mishra ji,

//Respected Seniors,I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime.I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an

astrologer.//

Kind Sir..

I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...

In your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the "already born".

I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..

Again even if you like to test the "already tested" rules, on persons who have been "already born", may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?

best regards,

Bhaskar.

@gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> Sir,> > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark. > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country.

> > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > Sorry please ignore my mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. > > best wishes,> Bhaskar.> > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:> >> > > > Respected Seniors,> > I have read some where that :> >

(1)Gender of native can be identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.> >

(2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.> >

(3) I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> >

Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father & common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children>

> > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala. > > > > Set - I> > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > Set - 2> > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > Set - I> > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> > Set - 2> > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is

given against their birth particulars:> > > > > > Set - I> > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > > > Set - 2> > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >>

January 20, 2010

dear ramani,

rule to identify unborn baby from female chart is mentioned by me and it gives me good success rate.

but this rule cant be succesful to predict born ones.

this is my humble opinion and i dont want waste the time on this issue as to decide correct asc.sub is a great headache for kpmethod (found from BTR method mails)

when we cant decide sub itself..then how to rely on sub-sub?

thanks

-sunil gondhalekar

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:39 PM, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani wrote:

Dear Sri Bhaskar and Misraji,

I have tried many horoscopes without fruitful results. This

cannot be taken as a rule. I don't know whether Shri Gondhalekar has framed any rule under the 4 steps theory,

as he has specific rule for finding sex of the child for the

lady due for delivery. I request Shri Gondhalekar to throw

some light on this issue.

With best wishes,

K.S.V.Ramani

-

Bhaskar

Monday, January 18, 2010 9:40 PM

Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

Sir,While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark.

Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country.

And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?Sorry please ignore my mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage.

best wishes,Bhaskar. , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:>> > Respected Seniors,

> I have read some where that :> (1)Gender of native can be identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.

> (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.

> (3) I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:

> Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother.

> > (A) Just identify children having a common father & common mother> (B) identify the gender of these children> > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.

> > Set - I> (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > Set - 2> (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM

> (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > Set - I> (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)

> Set - 2> (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:

> > > Set - I> (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > Set - 2> (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM)

> (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.

> With thanks & regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra>

-- Sunil Gondhalekarwww.astrologyask.com

January 20, 2010

Child Sex Study.doc (in File section)

Child Gender Prediction Analysis

/message/15405?threaded=1

I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...

KP Reader IV p 236 last para

, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra

wrote:

>

> Respected Bhaskar Sir & Â Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down

by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:

> Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)

> (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)

> If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose

lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a

female sign, then the chart is of a female child.

>

> Reference: /message/21621

> Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)

> Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant

determines the sex of a child.

>

> 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In

" Astrololgy & Atrishta " magazine April 1980.

> 2. /message/22175

> Â Â

> Â

> You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It

willÂ certainly helpÂ in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is

very necessary to know that the birth chart which has been put before an

astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.DoesÂ odd number

denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female

signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been

challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and

also to identify who areÂ born of same father.I have been given a hint which is

following:

>

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â \

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children.Â These children

of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have

married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they mightÂ have a

common father & mother.Â

> Â

> (A) Just identify children having a common father & Â common mother

> (B) identify the gender of these children

> Â

> Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is

cochin,Kerala.Â Â

> Â

> Set -Â I

> Â (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM

> Â (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM

> Â (3)Â 7-10-1972 12:30AM

> Â

> Set - 2

> Â (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM

> Â (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM

> Â (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM

> Â (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM

> Â (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PMÂ

> Â

> I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that:Â

> Set -Â I

> Â (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)

> Â Set - 2

> Â (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)

> Â and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)

> Â

> The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the

basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:

> Â

> Set -Â I

> Â (2)14-11-1969 1:45AMÂ Â Â Â Â Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)

> Â (3)Â 7-10-1972 12:30AMÂ Â Â Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date

06-10-1972)

> Â

> Set - 2

> Â (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AMÂ Â Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM)Â

> (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PMÂ Â Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)

> Â (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PMÂ Â Female(Rectified time 05:17PM)Â

> (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PMÂ Â Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)

> Â My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified time is incorrect & sub sub

lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that

theÂ sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and

Â whose lord is situated in a male signÂ or inÂ female sign.

>

> With thanks & regards,Â

> Dhirendra Nath Misra

> Â

>

> ________________________________

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

>

> Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM

> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and

real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

>

> Â

> Dear Mishra ji,

> //RespectedÂ Seniors,I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly who replied me

promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to

twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial

department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime.I am not intended to

identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify

gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query

in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating anyÂ law.Â It is

also made clear that prediction regardingÂ gender of unborn baby is quite

different thing toÂ that of identifying Â gender of any native whose birth chart

is already erected and placed before an astrologer.//

> Kind Sir..

> I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not

even know you in any which way dear Mishra ji...I just mentioned what I should,

and what I must...

> In your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender

for the " already born " .

> I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know

it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..

> Again even if you like to test theÂ " already tested " rules, on persons who

have been " already born " , may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what

purpose will this serve ?

> best regards,

> Bhaskar.

> Â

>

> @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Sir,

> >

> > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing

efforts and time for research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will

they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto

serve again is another question mark.

> >

> > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents.

But what if this prediction turns false ?

> >

> > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the

parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do

not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender

determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the

womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country.

> >

> > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it

? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?

> >

> > Sorry please ignore my mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to

discourage.

> >

> > best wishes,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@

wrote:

> > >

> > > RespectedÂ Seniors,

> > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â IÂ have

readÂ some where that :

> > >

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â \

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â (1)Gender of

native can be identifiedÂ from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement

in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is

male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.ButÂ in many cases this

method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign

denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.

> > >

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â \

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â (2)Secondly I

have found that sub lord of the ascendant in the chart of father isÂ common as

sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of

the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every

where or it will fail.

> > >

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â \

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â (3) I have been

challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and

also to identify who areÂ born of same father.I have been given a hint which is

following:

> > >

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â \

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children.Â These children

of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have

married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they mightÂ have a

common father & mother.

> > >

> > > (A) Just identify children having a common father & Â common mother

> > > (B) identify the gender of these children

> > >

> > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native

is cochin,Kerala.Â Â

> > >

> > > Set -Â I

> > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM

> > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM

> > > (3)Â 7-10-1972 12:30AM

> > >

> > > Set - 2

> > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM

> > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM

> > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM

> > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM

> > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PMÂ

> > >

> > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that:

> > > Set -Â I

> > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)

> > > Set - 2

> > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)

> > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)

> > >

> > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the

basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:

> > >

> > > Set -Â I

> > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AMÂ Â Â Â Â Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)

> > > (3)Â 7-10-1972 12:30AMÂ Â Â Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date

06-10-1972)

> > >

> > > Set - 2

> > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AMÂ Â Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM)Â

> > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PMÂ Â Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)

> > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PMÂ Â Female(Rectified time 05:17PM)Â

> > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PMÂ Â Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)

> > >

> > > Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.

> > > With thanks & regards,Â

> > > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > >

> >

>

January 20, 2010

Dear Friends,

For those interested in trying their hand , in a live case study.

My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.

Birth details May 29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar).

1. When will she deliver?

2. What will be the gender of the child?

I failed,so I request the group.

Regards,

Satish

--- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:

TW <tw853 Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14 PM

Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) Child Gender Prediction Analysishttp://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...KP Reader IV p 236 last para@gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:>> Respected Bhaskar Sir & Ã‚ Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a

star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.> > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621> Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)> Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In "Astrololgy & Atrishta" magazine April 1980.> 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> Ã‚ Ã‚ > Ã‚ > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It willÃ‚ certainly helpÃ‚ in

rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.DoesÃ‚ odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who areÃ‚ born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:>

Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Each set belong to a group of children.Ã‚ These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they mightÃ‚ have a

common father & mother.Ã‚ > Ã‚ > (A) Just identify children having a common father & Ã‚ common mother> (B) identify the gender of these children> Ã‚ > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.Ã‚ Ã‚ > Ã‚ > Set -Ã‚ I> Ã‚ (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> Ã‚ (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> Ã‚ (3)Ã‚ 7-10-1972 12:30AM> Ã‚ > Set - 2> Ã‚ (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> Ã‚ (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> Ã‚ (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> Ã‚ (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> Ã‚ (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PMÃ‚ > Ã‚ > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that:Ã‚ > Set -Ã‚ I> Ã‚ (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> Ã‚ Set - 2> Ã‚ (5) 01-04-1962

04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> Ã‚ and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> Ã‚ > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:> Ã‚ > Ã‚ > Set -Ã‚ I> Ã‚ (2)14-11-1969 1:45AMÃ‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> Ã‚ (3)Ã‚ 7-10-1972 12:30AMÃ‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> Ã‚ > Set - 2> Ã‚ (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AMÃ‚ Ã‚ Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM)Ã‚ > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PMÃ‚ Ã‚ Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> Ã‚ (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PMÃ‚ Ã‚ Female(Rectified time 05:17PM)Ã‚ > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PMÃ‚ Ã‚ Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> Ã‚ My above

analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that theÃ‚ sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and Ã‚ whose lord is situated in a male signÃ‚ or inÃ‚ female sign.> > With thanks & regards,Ã‚ > Dhirendra Nath Misra> Ã‚ > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> @gro ups.com> Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> > Ã‚ > Dear Mishra

ji,> //RespectedÃ‚ Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime.I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating anyÃ‚ law.Ã‚ It is also made clear that prediction regardingÃ‚ gender of unborn baby is quite different thing toÃ‚ that of identifying Ã‚ gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /> Kind Sir..> I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra ji...I just mentioned what I

should, and what I must...> In your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the "already born".> I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..> Again even if you like to test theÃ‚ "already tested" rules, on persons who have been "already born", may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?> best regards,> Bhaskar.> Ã‚ > Ã‚ > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> >> > Sir,> > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question

mark. > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country. > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > Sorry please ignore my mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. > > > > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra

Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:> > >> > > > > > RespectedÃ‚ Seniors,> > > Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ IÃ‚ have readÃ‚ some where that :> > >

Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ (1)Gender of native can be identifiedÃ‚ from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.ButÃ‚ in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male

gender.> > > Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of the ascendant in the chart of father isÃ‚ common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.> > >

Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ (3) I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who areÃ‚ born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> > >

Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Each set belong to a group of children.Ã‚ These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they mightÃ‚ have a common

father & mother. > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father & Ã‚ common mother> > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.Ã‚ Ã‚ > > > > > > Set -Ã‚ I> > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > (3)Ã‚ 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > Set - 2> > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PMÃ‚ > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > > Set -Ã‚ I> > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is

Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> > > Set - 2> > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:> > > > > > > > > Set -Ã‚ I> > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AMÃ‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > (3)Ã‚ 7-10-1972 12:30AMÃ‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > > > > > Set - 2> > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AMÃ‚ Ã‚ Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM)Ã‚ > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PMÃ‚ Ã‚ Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PMÃ‚ Ã‚

Female(Rectified time 05:17PM)Ã‚ > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PMÃ‚ Ã‚ Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> > > With thanks & regards,Ã‚ > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > >> >>

January 20, 2010

Dear Sri Sunilji,

Many thanks for your opinion on the subject. You are

quite right not to waste time on such issues, where there is

no mention in late Sri K.S.K's work. Already head is broken

in the discussion of BTR for the past several months.

Kindly don't bother any more.

With regards,

K.S.V.Ramani

-

sunil gondhalekar

Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:12 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

dear ramani,

rule to identify unborn baby from female chart is mentioned by me and it gives me good success rate.

but this rule cant be succesful to predict born ones.

this is my humble opinion and i dont want waste the time on this issue as to decide correct asc.sub is a great headache for kpmethod (found from BTR method mails)

when we cant decide sub itself..then how to rely on sub-sub?

thanks

-sunil gondhalekar

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:39 PM, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani > wrote:

Dear Sri Bhaskar and Misraji,

I have tried many horoscopes without fruitful results. This

cannot be taken as a rule. I don't know whether Shri Gondhalekar has framed any rule under the 4 steps theory,

as he has specific rule for finding sex of the child for the

lady due for delivery. I request Shri Gondhalekar to throw

some light on this issue.

With best wishes,

K.S.V.Ramani

-

Bhaskar

Monday, January 18, 2010 9:40 PM

Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

Sir,While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark. Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country. And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?Sorry please ignore my mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. best wishes,Bhaskar. , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:>> > Respected Seniors,> I have read some where that :> (1)Gender of native can be identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.> (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.> (3) I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > > (A) Just identify children having a common father & common mother> (B) identify the gender of these children> > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala. > > Set - I> (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > Set - 2> (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > Set - I> (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> Set - 2> (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:> > > Set - I> (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > Set - 2> (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> With thanks & regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra>

-- Sunil Gondhalekarwww.astrologyask.com

January 20, 2010

Dear Friends,

If this rule really gives success to identify unborn baby, what would the

ratinale why not working for born babies? Is the rule could be be different for

unborn and born babies?

Thanks and regards,

TW

, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote:

>

> dear ramani,

> rule to identify unborn baby from female chart is mentioned by me and it

> gives me good success rate.

>

> but this rule cant be succesful to predict born ones.

> this is my humble opinion and i dont want waste the time on this issue as to

> decide correct asc.sub is a great headache for kpmethod (found from BTR

> method mails)

>

> when we cant decide sub itself..then how to rely on sub-sub?

> thanks

> -sunil gondhalekar

> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:39 PM, kadavasalramani

> <kadavasalramaniwrote:

>

> >

> > Dear Sri Bhaskar and Misraji,

> >

> > I have tried many horoscopes without fruitful results. This

> > cannot be taken as a rule. I don't know whether Shri Gondhalekar has

> > framed any rule under the 4 steps theory,

> > as he has specific rule for finding sex of the child for the

> > lady due for delivery. I request Shri Gondhalekar to throw

> > some light on this issue.

> >

> > With best wishes,

> >

> > K.S.V.Ramani

> >

> > -

> > ** Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

> > *To:*

> > *Sent:* Monday, January 18, 2010 9:40 PM

> > *Subject:* Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth

> > Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

> >

> > Sir,

> >

> > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing

> > efforts and time for research on this, yes rules are there , but how much

> > will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what

> > purposeto serve again is another question mark.

> >

> > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his

> > parents. But what if this prediction turns false ?

> >

> > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the

> > parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I

> > do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender

> > determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the

> > womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this

> > country.

> >

> > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth

> > it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?

> >

> > Sorry please ignore my mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to

> > discourage.

> >

> > best wishes,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > <%40>,

> > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Seniors,

> > > I have read some where that :

> > >

> > (1)Gender of native can be identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and

> > its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the

> > concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female

> > sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this

> > perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male

> > gender.

> > >

> > (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of the ascendant in the chart of

> > father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and

> > daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether

> > this condition will apply every where or it will fail.

> > >

> > (3) I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify

> > gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have

> > been given a hint which is following:

> > >

> >

> > Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may

> > or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice

> > or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father

> > & mother.

> > >

> > > (A) Just identify children having a common father & common mother

> > > (B) identify the gender of these children

> > >

> > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the

> > native is cochin,Kerala.

> > >

> > > Set - I

> > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM

> > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM

> > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM

> > >

> > > Set - 2

> > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM

> > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM

> > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM

> > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM

> > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM

> > >

> > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that:

> > > Set - I

> > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)

> > > Set - 2

> > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)

> > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)

> > >

> > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the

> > basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:

> > >

> > > Set - I

> > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)

> > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)

> > >

> > > Set - 2

> > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM)

> > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)

> > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM Female(Rectified time 05:17PM)

> > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)

> > >

> > > Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.

> > > With thanks & regards,

> > > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > >

> >

>

> --

> Sunil Gondhalekar

> www.astrologyask.com

>

January 21, 2010

Dear Ramani,

To be honest, this area needs still much research to provide a foolproof

prediction. However, the various methods used are listed below:-

a) If the co-ruling planets of the 5th cusp occupy male signs or occupy cusps

which are rising in male signs, the chance of getting male child is more.

b) Sub-Sub Lord of the SSL of 5th is in male sign, one gets male child.

c) Khullar Method using SSL uses the Nadi concept and adopts following method

to determine the sex of the child:-

i) Each Sub-Sub arc is of particular length. If the SS Arc is 1st half of the

male sign or 2nd half of the female sign, possibility of male child arise. For

example, suppose in a Chart 5th house rises at 12 degree 22 minutes 46 secs in

Virgo, Jupiter will rule it. The SS Arc of Jupiter starts from 12 degree 11 Min

20 secs and ends at 12 degree 27 min 20 secs. If the SS Arc is placed at 12

degree 20 min. 15 secs , we conclude that the SS arc is placed in the 2nd half.

Virgo being female sign and the SS Arc in 2nd half, the possibility of male

child arise.

ii) Summing up, sex of the child is determined using the following concepts:

a) SSL of the 5th SSL represents the sex of the child as per its placement in

the male or female sign.

b) SS Arc of 5th cusp indicates sex of the child as per its placement in the

relevant half.

c) For female nativity, the sex of the child be seen from the 11th cusp SSL

instead of 5th SSL.

d) The above rules for determining the sex of the child applicable only for the

first child.

e) For determining the sex of the second child onwards, horary is the best

method

f) Accuracy of the longitude of the Sub Sub Arc depends upon the accuracy of the

software that you use. Hence the use of this method is beset with this problem.

Regards,

KHAS

, " kadavasalramani " <kadavasalramani

wrote:

>

> Dear Sri Bhaskar and Misraji,

>

> I have tried many horoscopes without fruitful results. This

> cannot be taken as a rule. I don't know whether Shri Gondhalekar has framed

any rule under the 4 steps theory,

> as he has specific rule for finding sex of the child for the

> lady due for delivery. I request Shri Gondhalekar to throw

> some light on this issue.

>

> With best wishes,

>

> K.S.V.Ramani

> -

> Bhaskar

>

> Monday, January 18, 2010 9:40 PM

> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and

real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

>

> Sir,

>

> While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing

efforts and time for research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will

they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto

serve again is another question mark.

>

> Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents.

But what if this prediction turns false ?

>

> Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the

parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do

not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender

determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the

womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country.

>

> And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it

? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?

>

> Sorry please ignore my mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to

discourage.

>

> best wishes,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Seniors,

> > I have read some where that :

> >

(1)Gender of native can be identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its

placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned

native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many

cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even

sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.

> >

(2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of the ascendant in the chart of father

is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who

are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will

apply every where or it will fail.

> >

(3) I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender

of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a

hint which is following:

> >

Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or

may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the

mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother.

> >

> > (A) Just identify children having a common father & common mother

> > (B) identify the gender of these children

> >

> > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native

is cochin,Kerala.

> >

> > Set - I

> > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM

> > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM

> > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM

> >

> > Set - 2

> > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM

> > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM

> > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM

> > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM

> > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM

> >

> > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that:

> > Set - I

> > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)

> > Set - 2

> > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)

> > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)

> >

> > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the

basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:

> >

> > Set - I

> > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)

> > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)

> >

> > Set - 2

> > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM)

> > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)

> > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM Female(Rectified time 05:17PM)

> > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)

> >

> > Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.

> > With thanks & regards,

> > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> >

>

January 21, 2010

Dear Friend.Is it for first child?KalyanR Satish <rsatish1942 Sent: Wed, 20 January, 2010 9:45:44 PMRe: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

Dear Friends,

For those interested in trying their hand , in a live case study.

My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.

Birth details May 29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar).

1. When will she deliver?

2. What will be the gender of the child?

I failed,so I request the group.

Regards,

Satish

--- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comWednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14 PM

Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) Child Gender Prediction Analysishttp://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...KP Reader IV p 236 last para@gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:>> Respected Bhaskar Sir & Ã‚ Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a

star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.> > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621> Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)> Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In "Astrololgy & Atrishta" magazine April 1980.> 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> Ã‚ Ã‚ > Ã‚ > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It willÃ‚ certainly

helpÃ‚ in