Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Dear Bhaskar ji, Absolutely great reason.. That person could’nt able to accumulate wealth even during the best period of tht planet as he was “busy in his studiesâ€â€¦ Based on this, if death time/period of a person comes, tht person will not die , provided he/she is “busyâ€. & he/she can be “busy†in anything like,studies,business or anything else. Only thing required is that he/she should be busy. Then whats the power of any planet if it cant make people work according to it. Had the planet is really sig of wealth & in its best period( madadasha)..it should drawn the native anyhow into acculumulating wealth,either through completion of studies at an earlier age or anyhow. Atleast think of a reason which no one deny at first place. Another example is tht a person with exact horo of Sachin Tendulkar …has to be Tendulkar himself.. & no body else…if he’s anyone else.. Bhaskar ji will tell..that as he was “busy in studies†..he could’nt become Tendulkar. Ok..just simple answer a simple question raised by Bhaskar ji himself: “But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house.. Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?†Thanks & Regards, Sonali On Behalf Of Bhaskar Monday, January 18, 2010 9:06 PM Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET Dear Sonali ji, I am sory but I have not yet been able to send my point across. If a native has a planet Mars who is a significator of a child in his Horoscope, then how would you expect this native to give birth to children if the Mars Mahadasha comes to him before age 15 ? Will he be married before age 15 by his parents to produce children or will he be sent to school to study ? In same manner when it comes to creation of wealth, You have yourself accepted that the boy in question was studying, then from which part of the heavens can he pick out wealth and display it , even if his Venus Mahadasha was running and Venus Mahadasha signifies wealth ? You are not trying to understand. Yes Venus certainly promises wealth creations for him, but the boy was not in business or service, then how could he create wealth ? And okay from 1ge 18 he could earn or have love affairs or marry. But did you allow him to go out and have love affairs, and marry ? or work and earn money ? If not Then how how can we expect things to happen on its own ? And between age 18 -25 when the Venus Mahadasha was ending and in its last stages, I have already proved through the significators, that he could not have earnt good wealth..due to the antardasha Lords which deny the type of wealth which you are looking for. I will once again explain in short and for full and final..before I leave this thread. 1) The planet Venus does promise wealth to the native. 2) But the Venus Mahadasha comes to him from age 5 to 25. 3) At this age nobody works , unless he is born on the road, and you too have accepted that the boy was studying, so how can we expect wealth creations from him ? 4) Between age 18-25 when he was at the last stage of Venus Mahadasha, he was not running positive antardashas, and he was also studying, so how could you expect him to earn good wealth, have love affairs, marry and bring in money ? Did you or his parents ask him to work after age 18 ? If not then from where will money come ? You are not trying to understand the simple crux of the matter, and I am unable to make you understand. Lets leave it... Bhaskar. , SONALI <sonali.me.2009 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > At the outset ,I’d like to give u thanks, for putting your valuable time to study this case. > > My pointwise reply is as under: > > > > 1.// as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// > > Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or every week of the month give the same type of results ? .................No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same results everyday ? > > Reply: I cant believe that a person of caliber like bhaskar ji has interpretated this in this narrow manner. > > Here my point is that, if ve is surely going to provide wealth as pointed out by Bhaskar ji himself. > > So the logical interpretation would be to think that during its mahadasha which if a fairly long period of 20 years,ve should’ve given wealth during the whole period AS A WHOLE, & NOT EVERYDAY/EVERY HOUR/EVERY MIN. i.e.if one measure result of Ve mahadasha as a whole, one should be in a position to conclude that ve mahadasha was favourable to the native in terms of wealth which is not the case here. > > 2. //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & nothing substantial happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest.// > > Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 ....) > > Reply: “What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry†> > Not a boy, but obviously yes , a teenager/young man of 20-25 is always expected to earn wealth ( if he is running Ve mahadasha & if ve is a strong sig of money as pointed by bhaskarji himself as its not totally abnormal for a young person to accumulate wealth in age group 20-25 atleast , if not earlier & have atleast love affairs( ve is strong sig of 5,6,3,11) if not marriage/love marriage. > > 3.At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 > > Look at what saturn signifies. > > Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 > > At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 > > Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 > > At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 > > Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 > > Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show great figures of wealth creations ??? > > Reply: during age of 5-17, we ourselves should not expect the native to earn wealth & during 18-25,dashas are not favourable to earn wealth as pointed by Bhaskar ji, > > Then what is the overall result of Ve mahadasha of 20 years if Ve is said to be a strong sig of Money in this case?? When its results are likely to be in full swing..??? > > As in words of Bhaskar ji himself: > > “But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house.. > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?†> > > > > > 4.// Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// > > In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his could have provided what you are looking for. > > Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... > > Reply: to the extent I understand KP, RP at the time of actual event must be in agreement with significators of that event based on TOB.Thus,if they dnt tally, TOB can be assumed to be incorrect. I’m not expecting the native to be a millionaire or not but if ve is a strong sig of money/wealth & he’s running through ve Mahadasha, atleast he can be assumed to have earned something more than a few thousand rupees, which he didn’t during its mahadasha. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Sonali > > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Saturday, January 16, 2010 12:11 PM > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > Dear Sonali ji, > > // as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// > > Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or every week of the month give the same type of results ? .................No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same results everyday ? > > // Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms of wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native.// > > This is again absurd expectations and not in Line. why should Venus always represent Love or marriage ? Its the natural karaka-Yes. But then its also karaka for jewels and automobiles etc.. Do You mean to say that ever body running Venus dasha will have Love affairs, marriage, wealth creations etc.. > > Apart from being natural karaka every planet has got its designated role to play which changes with every individual Horoscope. You must check what gives Love affairs in your Horoscope. What gives marriage in Your horoscope? here what means - Which planet and at what period. > > //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & nothing substantial > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest.// > > Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 ....) > > Here some commonsense is necessary and not too much astrology is required to know the why .. > > At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 > > Look at what saturn signifies. > > Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 > > At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 > > Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 > > At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 > > Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 > > Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show great figures of wealth creations ??? > > and does a boy in that age concentrate on his studies in India (Or elsewhere in the world) or do his parents push him in business or profession ? Then how can we expect him to earn money during this age even if we suppose that the last two antardasha could have given him some money ? > > // Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// > > In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his could have provided what you are looking for. > > Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... > > //Here I’m not expecting that full period of 20 years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period of 20 years must have produced substantial result// > > Last 5 years of his venus mahadasha I have already proved with the figures what you could have expected the native to bring in as outputs had you put him in work, instead of studies. And before that we cannot expect a boy between age 5 to 17 to work and produce wealth for us . Or do we ? > > I dismiss the above case as expecting absudities and illogical results at an unsuitable age from the native in question. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > , SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your input to the case. > > > > > > > > As pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give money. > > > > If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest amongst the planets of 20 years), > > > > Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms of wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native. > > > > During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & nothing substantial > > > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest. > > > > > > > > Here I’m not expecting that full period of 20 years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period of 20 years must have produced substantial result. > > > > > > > > Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Friday, January 15, 2010 1:33 AM > > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry. But what type of KP are we doing.. > > If any planet gives money or shows money or wealth creations like in this case Venus .. > > Ve 6,11 Sun 5,3 Moon 10,1,2 > > Venus is clearly to give wealth, but how can one expect venus to give money all of 20 years ? Would the antardasha Lords go to sleep till then ? > > > > But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house.. > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ? > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > <%40> , Naresh Valecha superstaar_n_v@ wrote: > > > > > > Hi Sonali, I took up the details that were put up by you and rectified the birth time accordingly.You did not mention the time of birth which has been originally recorded before correcting it. Although RP's at the time of judgement give you a clear picture of birth lagna I would like to know what time has been originally recorded before rectification was done by you. > > >  > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > SONALI sonali.me.2009@ > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > <%40> > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 11:55 AM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nareshji, > > >  > > > If you wish, I can provide you date wise incidents in native’s life to cross check whether rectified TOB is correct or not. > > >  > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > >  Sonali > > >  > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:16 AM > > > @gro ups.com > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali, Sincerely I could not understand the table and as per your table and calculations I could not follow how Venus is an Important planet during its own Dasa.Venus if you see is in the sixth house and also it is in 6-8 relation with respect to its own house, i.e if we count 2 as lagna Venus falls in the eighth, besides it is also the sixth and twelveth cuspal sublord, again it is in the star of Sun lord of 2 with Mars lord of 10th and 5. Venus is in the sub of moon afflicted by Saturn and Ketu too, Moon-ketu being together in the tenth. Note the strenght of Moon too its only 02-28 in Aries. Afflicted and weak moon in no way can give the native a good Venus Dasa.This is KP. > > > > > > Now coming to the traditional astrological part. Aries Sade-Sati (7 -1/2 yrs of Saturn) started from feb.1996-2003. When the 10th house is posited with moon and is afflicted by malefics Sani and Ketu. During Sade-Sati 7-1/2yrs of Saturns transit the native has to struggle much through the houses signified by Saturn and Moon if they are not connected with favourably. How could Venus be a chief important planet, Venus in the Sub of afflicted Moon and under the sway of Saturn's transit from 1996-2003. > > > > > >  > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > @gro ups.com > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 8:20 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Valechaji, > > >  > > > Thnx for your analysis. > > >  > > > But if your analysis is considered as correct , how ve is coming as most imp money yielding planet as evident from the table: > > > So the basic question remains unanswered. > > > Thus either TOB is uncorrect or at 20.51.48,ve must come as most imp money yielding planet so as to tally with actual incidents. > > > & if same is most imp money yielding planet, why it failed to yield the same during its full mahadasha of 20 yrs itself. > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > >  SIGN LRD > > > > > >  STR LRD > > > > > >  SUB > > > > > >  TOTAL > > > > > >  % > > > > > >  RANK > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > >                              2.04 > > > > > >          7.05 > > > > > >             2.04 > > > > > >       11.14 > > > > > >             4 > > > > > >             8 > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > >                                   -  > > > > > >       19.01 > > > > > >  > > > > > >       19.01 > > > > > >             6 > > > > > >             7 > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > >                            20.03 > > > > > >       28.15 > > > > > >  > > > > > >       48.18 > > > > > >           16 > > > > > >             3 > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > >                            31.76 > > > > > >          9.38 > > > > > >             2.04 > > > > > >       43.19 > > > > > >           14 > > > > > >             4 > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > >                            14.85 > > > > > >          2.60 > > > > > >           15.64 > > > > > >       33.09 > > > > > >           11 > > > > > >             5 > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > >                            23.01 > > > > > >       18.45 > > > > > >           22.45 > > > > > >       63.91 > > > > > >           21 > > > > > >             1 > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > >                              8.30 > > > > > >  > > > > > >             0.56 > > > > > >          8.86 > > > > > >             3 > > > > > >             9 > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > >  > > > > > >       11.73 > > > > > >           39.56 > > > > > >       51.29 > > > > > >           17 > > > > > >             2 > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > >  > > > > > >          3.63 > > > > > >           17.70 > > > > > >       21.33 > > > > > >             7 > > > > > >             6 > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > >                         100.00 > > > > > >     100.00 > > > > > >         100.00 > > > > > >     300.00 > > > > > >   100.00 > > > > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > >  Sonali > > >  > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:56 PM > > > @gro ups.com > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali, the time rectified is nearly correct except as I found the SSL Sun instead of Venus giving me a time as 20.52.30. ruling planets taken on 12/01/2010; 07-11am; Ambernath. The rectified lagna as per my verification should be Moon-Guru-Rahu- Sun. The main question is what is the important planet.? if we analyse Venus dasa on the whole Venus being lord of 4 and 11, posited in the Sixth with Mercury the lord of 3,12 it would not give good results being in the sixth. The period from 1995 end(Saturn bhukti) would mark the start of hurdles. In short during Venus Dasa the native had to struggle. Sun-Sun, Sun-Moon, Sun Mars could not yield much.Sun dasa promises good results partially during Sun-Rahu & Jupiter bhukti only. Sun-Sat dasa would not prove beneficial, Sun-Ketu, Sun-Ven would be fair enough, Now the question arises why the emphasis on Sun Dasa -Rahu & Jupiter Bhukti gave good results because in the year 2004 Jupiter was transiting in > > > Leo second house of the native and all the stars in Leo gave sucess with Education, career and status. In Short Dasa-Bhukti- Antara lords prove fruitful during their transits in favourable houses viz. 1,2,3,6,10,11. > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > --- On Mon, 11/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > @gro ups.com > > > Monday, 11 January, 2010, 9:24 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TWji, > > >  > > > Note: plz read dob as 2-12-1976 > > >  > > > Then what according to you, should be the correct TOB ( for the same horo lajmiji has corrected TOB as 20.20) > > > But , based on this TOB, 5th sub is Sa & as per KP,if sub of 5th is sig of 8/12 houses,native will have losses from Stock market. > > > While actually, native is having profit from stock market although not very substantial or in the manner expected by native. > > > Thus, tob of 20.20 does not hold true based on income from stock market. > > > Can you/anyone else correct above tob, given the fact that calendar year 2004 was the best year so far in native’s life(from education,career, financial point of view) > > >  > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > >  Sonali > > >  > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of TW > > > Monday, January 11, 2010 7:14 PM > > > @gro ups.com > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > 1. Dob: 02 dec 176? 1976? > > > If 1976 and consequently Asc Cn 02:49:05 (KPNA 23:26:41), there is no way to get money in Sun Dasa*, and so the rectified TOB is not tallied with live event. > > > *Su(5,3); in star and sub Me(5,4-12). > > > 2. There is also no way to calculate such figures for planet. > > > In KP, significators are ranked by order of A,B,C,D & E decided by sub signification, taking into account of whether having no planet in their stars or own star or own sub, RPS (if applied) on case by case basis etc. > > > Regards, > > > TW > > > > > > @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All Respected Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In case of a person with birth details as under: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dob: 02 dec 176 > > > > > > > > Tob 20.51.48( as corrected with RP method) > > > > > > > > Place Shujalpur(M. P.) > > > > > > > > Sex Male > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Various Most imp money incidents are observed : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This tables shows how much each of the planet has contributed as > > > > Sign/str/sub lord as RP (Lagn & mon position) at the most close time of > > > > incident: > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > > > SIGN LRD > > > > > > > > STR LRD > > > > > > > > SUB > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > % > > > > > > > > RANK > > > > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > 7.05 > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > 11.14 > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > > > > 20.03 > > > > > > > > 28.15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 48.18 > > > > > > > > 16 > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > > > > 31.76 > > > > > > > > 9.38 > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > 43.19 > > > > > > > > 14 > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > > > > 14.85 > > > > > > > > 2.60 > > > > > > > > 15.64 > > > > > > > > 33.09 > > > > > > > > 11 > > > > > > > > 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > > > 23.01 > > > > > > > > 18.45 > > > > > > > > 22.45 > > > > > > > > 63.91 > > > > > > > > 21 > > > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > > > 8.30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0.56 > > > > > > > > 8.86 > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.73 > > > > > > > > 39.56 > > > > > > > > 51.29 > > > > > > > > 17 > > > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.63 > > > > > > > > 17.70 > > > > > > > > 21.33 > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > 300.00 > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From above, it appears that, ve is the most imp money giving planet.But > > > > above money incidents occurred after passing of Full mahadasha of ve of 20 > > > > years. > > > > > > > > I.e.above incidents occurred during Su mahadasha. > > > > > > > > If ve is supposed to be the most imp money giving planet(as appeared from > > > > above table), why it failed to yield any such results during its Mahadasha > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Sonali ji It is to much At the age of- from 5-18 year VE will give successes in competitions as she signify 6 & 11 We need & must apply some commonsense on astrology, astrology is based 50% on commonsense. Suresh awasthi.........................................................................................................................--- On Tue, 1/19/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009 wrote: SONALI <sonali.me.2009RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 2:13 PM Dear Bhaskar ji, Absolutely great reason.. That person could’nt able to accumulate wealth even during the best period of tht planet as he was “busy in his studiesâ€â€¦ Based on this, if death time/period of a person comes, tht person will not die , provided he/she is “busyâ€. & he/she can be “busy†in anything like,studies, business or anything else. Only thing required is that he/she should be busy. Then whats the power of any planet if it cant make people work according to it. Had the planet is really sig of wealth & in its best period( madadasha).. it should drawn the native anyhow into acculumulating wealth,either through completion of studies at an earlier age or anyhow. Atleast think of a reason which no one deny at first place. Another example is tht a person with exact horo of Sachin Tendulkar …has to be Tendulkar himself.. & no body else…if he’s anyone else.. Bhaskar ji will tell..that as he was “busy in studies†..he could’nt become Tendulkar. Ok..just simple answer a simple question raised by Bhaskar ji himself: “But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house..Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ?What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?†Thanks & Regards, Sonali @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of BhaskarMonday, January 18, 2010 9:06 PM@gro ups.com Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET Dear Sonali ji,I am sory but I have not yet been able to send my point across.If a native has a planet Mars who is a significator of a child in hisHoroscope, then how would you expect this native to give birth tochildren if the Mars Mahadasha comes to him before age 15 ? Will he bemarried before age 15 by his parents to produce children or will he besent to school to study ?In same manner when it comes to creation of wealth, You have yourselfaccepted that the boy in question was studying, then from which part ofthe heavens can he pick out wealth and display it , even if his VenusMahadasha was running and Venus Mahadasha signifies wealth ?You are not trying to understand. Yes Venus certainly promises wealthcreations for him, but the boy was not in business or service, then howcould he create wealth ? And okay from 1ge 18 he could earn or have loveaffairs or marry. But did you allow him to go out and have love affairs,and marry ? or work and earn money ? If not Then how how can we expectthings to happen on its own ?And between age 18 -25 when the Venus Mahadasha was ending and in itslast stages, I have already proved through the significators, that hecould not have earnt good wealth..due to the antardasha Lords which denythe type of wealth which you are looking for.I will once again explain in short and for full and final..before Ileave this thread.1) The planet Venus does promise wealth to the native.2) But the Venus Mahadasha comes to him from age 5 to 25.3) At this age nobody works , unless he is born on the road, and you toohave accepted that the boy was studying, so how can we expect wealthcreations from him ?4) Between age 18-25 when he was at the last stage of Venus Mahadasha,he was not running positive antardashas, and he was also studying, sohow could you expect him to earn good wealth, have love affairs, marryand bring in money ? Did you or his parents ask him to work after age 18? If not then from where will money come ?You are not trying to understand the simple crux of the matter, and I amunable to make you understand.Lets leave it...Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar ji,>> At the outset ,I’d like to give u thanks, for putting yourvaluable time to study this case.>> My pointwise reply is as under:>>>> 1.// as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to givemoney. If its so, why it failed to give results during its fullmahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of thelongest amongst the planets of 20 years),//>> Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if aplanet is important to give money, then it will do so for its wholedasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remainhappy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic forwhole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeetthe whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to changeeven within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can everyweek day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Orevery week of the month give the same type of results ?............ ....No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not inline.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou sameresults everyday ?>> Reply: I cant believe that a person of caliber like bhaskar ji hasinterpretated this in this narrow manner.>> Here my point is that, if ve is surely going to provide wealth aspointed out by Bhaskar ji himself.>> So the logical interpretation would be to think that during itsmahadasha which if a fairly long period of 20 years,ve should’vegiven wealth during the whole period AS A WHOLE, & NOT EVERYDAY/EVERYHOUR/EVERY MIN. i.e.if one measure result of Ve mahadasha as a whole,one should be in a position to conclude that ve mahadasha was favourableto the native in terms of wealth which is not the case here.>> 2. //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothinghappened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in hisstudies & nothing substantial happened related with ve. If ve isconsidered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during aperiod of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial musthave happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed tobe the strongest.//>> Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could havehappened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (Weare talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examplesof those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18...)>> Reply: “What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 do ? Earnwealth, and have love affairs and marryâ€>> Not a boy, but obviously yes , a teenager/young man of 20-25 is alwaysexpected to earn wealth ( if he is running Ve mahadasha & if ve is astrong sig of money as pointed by bhaskarji himself as its not totallyabnormal for a young person to accumulate wealth in age group 20-25atleast , if not earlier & have atleast love affairs( ve is strong sigof 5,6,3,11) if not marriage/love marriage.>> 3.At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995>> Look at what saturn signifies.>> Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5>> At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998>> Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11>> At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001>> Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10>> Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 showgreat figures of wealth creations ???>> Reply: during age of 5-17, we ourselves should not expect the nativeto earn wealth & during 18-25,dashas are not favourable to earn wealthas pointed by Bhaskar ji,>> Then what is the overall result of Ve mahadasha of 20 years if Ve issaid to be a strong sig of Money in this case?? When its results arelikely to be in full swing..???>> As in words of Bhaskar ji himself:>> “But Venus is certainly an important planet to give moneywhenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggeststhe 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due toownership of the 2nd house..>> Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since Noplanet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planetsrepresent the results of Venus and in what strength ?>> What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?â€>>>>>> 4.// Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is animportant planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at thetime of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet butsame when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.//>> In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear inan age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 itwill prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting ateenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of hiscould have provided what you are looking for.>> Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable tounderstand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earnmillions at a time when he is expected to study and not work....>> Reply: to the extent I understand KP, RP at the time of actual eventmust be in agreement with significators of that event based onTOB.Thus,if they dnt tally, TOB can be assumed to be incorrect.I’m not expecting the native to be a millionaire or not but if veis a strong sig of money/wealth & he’s running through veMahadasha, atleast he can be assumed to have earned something more thana few thousand rupees, which he didn’t during its mahadasha.>>>>>> Thanks & Regards,>> Sonali>>>> @gro ups.com [@gro ups.com]On Behalf Of Bhaskar> Saturday, January 16, 2010 12:11 PM> @gro ups.com> Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET>>>>>> Dear Sonali ji,>> // as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to givemoney. If its so, why it failed to give results during its fullmahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of thelongest amongst the planets of 20 years),//>> Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if aplanet is important to give money, then it will do so for its wholedasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remainhappy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic forwhole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeetthe whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to changeeven within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can everyweek day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Orevery week of the month give the same type of results ?............ ....No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not inline.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou sameresults everyday ?>> // Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in termsof wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native.//>> This is again absurd expectations and not in Line. why should Venusalways represent Love or marriage ? Its the natural karaka-Yes. But thenits also karaka for jewels and automobiles etc.. Do You mean to say thatever body running Venus dasha will have Love affairs, marriage, wealthcreations etc..>> Apart from being natural karaka every planet has got its designatedrole to play which changes with every individual Horoscope. You mustcheck what gives Love affairs in your Horoscope. What gives marriage inYour horoscope? here what means - Which planet and at what period.>> //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happenedto the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & nothing substantial>> happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something whichcan be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as thisthe period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest.//>> Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could havehappened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (Weare talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examplesof those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18...)>> Here some commonsense is necessary and not too much astrology isrequired to know the why ..>> At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995>> Look at what saturn signifies.>> Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5>> At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998>> Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11>> At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001>> Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10>> Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 showgreat figures of wealth creations ???>> and does a boy in that age concentrate on his studies in India (Orelsewhere in the world) or do his parents push him in business orprofession ? Then how can we expect him to earn money during this ageeven if we suppose that the last two antardasha could have given himsome money ?>> // Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an importantplanet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time ofincidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but samewhen compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.//>> In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear inan age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 itwill prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting ateenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of hiscould have provided what you are looking for.>> Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable tounderstand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earnmillions at a time when he is expected to study and not work....>> //Here I’m not expecting that full period of 20years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long periodof 20 years must have produced substantial result//>> Last 5 years of his venus mahadasha I have already proved with thefigures what you could have expected the native to bring in as outputshad you put him in work, instead of studies. And before that we cannotexpect a boy between age 5 to 17 to work and produce wealth for us . Ordo we ?>> I dismiss the above case as expecting absudities and illogical resultsat an unsuitable age from the native in question.>> regards,>> Bhaskar.>>> @gro ups.com, SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote:> >> >> >> > Dear Bhaskar ji,> >> >> >> > Thanks for your input to the case.> >> >> >> > As pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to givemoney.> >> > If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadashameans as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longestamongst the planets of 20 years),> >> > Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms ofwealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native.> >> > During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happenedto the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & nothing substantial> >> > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet forwealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened tothe native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest.> >> >> >> > Here I’m not expecting that full period of 20years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long periodof 20 years must have produced substantial result.> >> >> >> > Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an importantplanet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time ofincidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but samewhen compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.> >> >> >> >> >> > Thanks & Regards,> >> > Sonali> >> >> >> > @gro ups.com [@gro ups.com]On Behalf Of Bhaskar> > Friday, January 15, 2010 1:33 AM> > @gro ups.com> > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET> >> >> >> >> >> > I am sorry. But what type of KP are we doing..> > If any planet gives money or shows money or wealth creations like inthis case Venus ..> > Ve 6,11 Sun 5,3 Moon 10,1,2> > Venus is clearly to give wealth, but how can one expect venus togive money all of 20 years ? Would the antardasha Lords go to sleep tillthen ?> >> > But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money wheneverits antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6thand 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownershipof the 2nd house..> >> > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since Noplanet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planetsrepresent the results of Venus and in what strength ?> >> > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> > @gro ups.com<% 40. com> , Naresh Valecha superstaar_n_ v@wrote:> > >> > > Hi Sonali, I took up the details that were put up byyou and rectified the birth time accordingly. You did not mention thetime of birth which has been originally recorded before correctingit. Although RP's at the time of judgement give you a clearpicture of birth lagna I would like to know what time hasbeen originally recorded before rectification was done by you.> > > Â> > > Naresh Valecha> > >> > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > SONALI sonali.me.2009@> > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET> > > @gro ups.com<% 40. com>> > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 11:55 AM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Nareshji,> > > Â> > > If you wish, I can provide you date wise incidents innative’s life to cross check whether rectifiedTOB is correct or not.> > > Â> > >> > > Thanks & Regards,> > >  Sonali> > > Â> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system ] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha> > > Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:16 AM> > > @gro ups.com> > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET> > > Â> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Sonali, Sincerely I could not understand the tableand as per your table and calculations I could notfollow how Venus is an Important planet during itsown Dasa.Venus if you see is in the sixth house and also itÂis in 6-8 relation with respect to its own house, i.e if we count 2 aslagna Venus falls in the eighth, besides it is also the sixth andtwelveth cuspal sublord, again it is in the star of Sun lord of 2 withMars lord of 10th and 5. Venus is in the sub of moon afflicted by Saturnand Ketu too, Moon-ketu being together in the tenth. Note the strenghtof Moon too its only 02-28 in Aries. Afflicted and weak moonin no way can give the native a good Venus Dasa.This is KP.> > >> > > Now coming to the traditional astrological part. Aries Sade-Sati(7 -1/2 yrs of Saturn) started from feb.1996-2003. When the 10th houseis posited with moon and is afflicted by malefics Sani andKetu. During Sade-Sati 7-1/2yrs of Saturns transit the native has tostruggle much through the houses signified by Saturn and Moon if theyare not connected with favourably. How could Venus be a chiefimportant planet, Venus in the Sub of afflicted Moon and under the swayof Saturn's transit from 1996-2003.> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Naresh Valecha> > >> > >> > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote:> > >> > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com>> > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 8:20 PM> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Valechaji,> > > Â> > > Thnx for your analysis.> > > Â> > > But if your analysis is considered as correct , how ve is comingas most imp money yielding planet as evident from the table:> > > So the basic question remains unanswered.> > > Thus either TOB is uncorrect or at 20.51.48,ve must come as mostimp money yielding planet so as to tally with actual incidents.> > > & if same is most imp money yielding planet, why it failed toyield the same during its full mahadasha of 20 yrs itself.> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > PNT> > >> > >  SIGN LRD> > >> > >  STR LRD> > >> > >  SUB> > >> > >  TOTAL> > >> > >  %> > >> > >  RANK> > >> > >> > > SU> > >> > >     Â     Â     Â     Â     Â2.04> > >> > >     Â    7.05> > >> > >     Â     Â 2.04> > >> > >     Â 11.14> > >> > >     Â     Â 4> > >> > >     Â     Â 8> > >> > >> > > MO> > >> > >     Â     Â     Â     Â     Â     -ÂÂ> > >> > >     Â 19.01> > >> > > Â> > >> > >     Â 19.01> > >> > >     Â     Â 6> > >> > >     Â     Â 7> > >> > >> > > MA> > >> > >     Â     Â     Â     Â    20.03> > >> > >     Â 28.15> > >> > > Â> > >> > >     Â 48.18> > >> > >     Â     16> > >> > >     Â     Â 3> > >> > >> > > ME> > >> > >     Â     Â     Â     Â    31.76> > >> > >     Â    9.38> > >> > >     Â     Â 2.04> > >> > >     Â 43.19> > >> > >     Â     14> > >> > >     Â     Â 4> > >> > >> > > JU> > >> > >     Â     Â     Â     Â    14.85> > >> > >     Â    2.60> > >> > >     Â     15.64> > >> > >     Â 33.09> > >> > >     Â     11> > >> > >     Â     Â 5> > >> > >> > > VE> > >> > >     Â     Â     Â     Â    23.01> > >> > >     Â 18.45> > >> > >     Â     22.45> > >> > >     Â 63.91> > >> > >     Â     21> > >> > >     Â     Â 1> > >> > >> > > SA> > >> > >     Â     Â     Â     Â     Â8.30> > >> > > Â> > >> > >     Â     Â 0.56> > >> > >     Â    8.86> > >> > >     Â     Â 3> > >> > >     Â     Â 9> > >> > >> > > RA> > >> > > Â> > >> > >     Â 11.73> > >> > >     Â     39.56> > >> > >     Â 51.29> > >> > >     Â     17> > >> > >     Â     Â 2> > >> > >> > > KE> > >> > > Â> > >> > >     Â    3.63> > >> > >     Â     17.70> > >> > >     Â 21.33> > >> > >     Â     Â 7> > >> > >     Â     Â 6> > >> > >> > > TOTAL> > >> > >     Â     Â     Â     Â 100.00> > >> > >     100.00> > >> > >     Â   100.00> > >> > >     300.00> > >> > >   100.00> > >> > > Â> > > Â> > > Â> > > Â> > >> > > Thanks & Regards,> > >  Sonali> > > Â> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system ] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha> > > Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:56 PM> > > @gro ups.com> > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET> > > Â> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi Sonali, the time rectified is nearly correct exceptas I found the SSL Sun instead of Venus giving me a time as 20.52.30.ruling planets taken on 12/01/2010; 07-11am; Ambernath. The rectifiedlagna as per my verification should be Moon-Guru-Rahu- Sun. The mainquestion is what is the important planet.? if we analyse Venus dasa onthe whole Venus being lord of 4 and 11, posited in the Sixth withMercury the lord of 3,12 it would not give good results beingin the sixth. The period from 1995 end(Saturn bhukti) wouldmark the start of hurdles. In short during Venus Dasa the native had tostruggle. Sun-Sun, Sun-Moon, Sun Mars could not yield much.Sun dasapromises good results partially duringSun-Rahu & Jupiter bhukti only. Sun-Sat dasa would not prove beneficial,Sun-Ketu, Sun-Ven would be fair enough,ÂNow the question arises why the emphasis on Sun Dasa -Rahu & JupiterBhukti gave good results because in the year 2004 Jupiter was transitingin> > > Leo second house of the native and all the stars in Leo gavesucess with Education, career and status. In Short Dasa-Bhukti- Antaralords prove fruitful during their transits in favourablehouses viz. 1,2,3,6,10,11.> > >> > > Naresh Valecha> > >> > > --- On Mon, 11/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote:> > >> > >> > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com>> > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET> > > @gro ups.com> > > Monday, 11 January, 2010, 9:24 PM> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear TWji,> > > Â> > > Note: plz read dob as 2-12-1976> > > Â> > > Then what according to you, should be the correct TOB ( for thesame horo lajmiji has corrected TOB as 20.20)> > > But , based on this TOB, 5th sub is Sa & as per KP,if sub of 5this sig of 8/12 houses,native will have losses from Stock market.> > > While actually, native is having profit from stock market althoughnot very substantial or in the manner expected by native.> > > Thus, tob of 20.20 does not hold true based on income from stockmarket.> > > Can you/anyone else correct above tob, given the fact thatcalendar year 2004 was the best year so far innative’s life(from education,career, financialpoint of view)> > > Â> > >> > > Thanks & Regards,> > >  Sonali> > > Â> > >> > >> > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system ] On Behalf Of TW> > > Monday, January 11, 2010 7:14 PM> > > @gro ups.com> > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET> > > Â> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Friend,> > > 1. Dob: 02 dec 176? 1976?> > > If 1976 and consequently Asc Cn 02:49:05 (KPNA 23:26:41), there isno way to get money in Sun Dasa*, and so the rectified TOB is nottallied with live event.> > > *Su(5,3); in star and sub Me(5,4-12).> > > 2. There is also no way to calculate such figures for planet.> > > In KP, significators are ranked by order of A,B,C,D & E decided bysub signification, taking into account of whether having no planet intheir stars or own star or own sub, RPS (if applied) on case by casebasis etc.> > > Regards,> > > TW> > >> > > @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...>wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Hello All Respected Members,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > In case of a person with birth details as under:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dob: 02 dec 176> > > >> > > > Tob 20.51.48( as corrected with RP method)> > > >> > > > Place Shujalpur(M. P.)> > > >> > > > Sex Male> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Various Most imp money incidents are observed :> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > This tables shows how much each of the planet has contributed as> > > > Sign/str/sub lord as RP (Lagn & mon position) at the most closetime of> > > > incident:> > > >> > > >> > > > PNT> > > >> > > > SIGN LRD> > > >> > > > STR LRD> > > >> > > > SUB> > > >> > > > TOTAL> > > >> > > > %> > > >> > > > RANK> > > >> > > >> > > > SU> > > >> > > > 2.04> > > >> > > > 7.05> > > >> > > > 2.04> > > >> > > > 11.14> > > >> > > > 4> > > >> > > > 8> > > >> > > >> > > > MO> > > >> > > > -> > > >> > > > 19.01> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 19.01> > > >> > > > 6> > > >> > > > 7> > > >> > > >> > > > MA> > > >> > > > 20.03> > > >> > > > 28.15> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 48.18> > > >> > > > 16> > > >> > > > 3> > > >> > > >> > > > ME> > > >> > > > 31.76> > > >> > > > 9.38> > > >> > > > 2.04> > > >> > > > 43.19> > > >> > > > 14> > > >> > > > 4> > > >> > > >> > > > JU> > > >> > > > 14.85> > > >> > > > 2.60> > > >> > > > 15.64> > > >> > > > 33.09> > > >> > > > 11> > > >> > > > 5> > > >> > > >> > > > VE> > > >> > > > 23.01> > > >> > > > 18.45> > > >> > > > 22.45> > > >> > > > 63.91> > > >> > > > 21> > > >> > > > 1> > > >> > > >> > > > SA> > > >> > > > 8.30> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 0.56> > > >> > > > 8.86> > > >> > > > 3> > > >> > > > 9> > > >> > > >> > > > RA> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 11.73> > > >> > > > 39.56> > > >> > > > 51.29> > > >> > > > 17> > > >> > > > 2> > > >> > > >> > > > KE> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 3.63> > > >> > > > 17.70> > > >> > > > 21.33> > > >> > > > 7> > > >> > > > 6> > > >> > > >> > > > TOTAL> > > >> > > > 100.00> > > >> > > > 100.00> > > >> > > > 100.00> > > >> > > > 300.00> > > >> > > > 100.00> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > From above, it appears that, ve is the most imp money givingplanet.But> > > > above money incidents occurred after passing of Full mahadashaof ve of 20> > > > years.> > > >> > > > I.e.above incidents occurred during Su mahadasha.> > > >> > > > If ve is supposed to be the most imp money giving planet(asappeared from> > > > above table), why it failed to yield any such results during itsMahadasha> > > > itself.> > > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Dear Bhaskar ji & Sonaliji Sorry s Age is definetly relervant.However a good ven show its effect through some other person ,may be parents or relatives etc.The child enjoys wealth/ luxuries as parents may get unexpected money .I know a person who did not have money for daughter,s marriage. He got offer for a property in dispute,sold it & could celebrate a decent marriage.After the marriage he is again living hand to mouth. The daughters chart is good, she is reasonably well to do.(She is also running exalted ven dasa showing 2 8 11 in sublord.Even during her school/college days she well brought up in a joint family & father provided well fo her even he himself was frequently taking loans for his bussiness. --- On Wed, 20/1/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET Date: Wednesday, 20 January, 2010, 12:51 AM Dear Sonali ji , What type of perverted expectations are we keeping from a lad who is studying just because his Dasha Lord in his childhood period is signifying wealth ? And what type of baseless illogical examples are you presenting to just justify your points, I am really fazed out by now.. I have told you in my previous mail too, that if a boy is running a dasha whose Lord signifies the 5th house, then do you pxect the boy if he is under age 15, to go out and make babies ? Or if a man in age of 80 is running a dasha of a planet which signifies marriage, then do you think that he will go out and get married ? We need some commonsense on astrology, and astrology is not to be used in a foolish manner in the way suggested. If a planet signifies marriage and it comes as a dasha ord at age 12 to a child, do you expect the planet to draw him to his marriage somehow ? HaHa. What type of astrology are you into ? from where have you learnt such type of knowledge to associate planets with events at illogical ages ??? Bhaskar. -- In @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > Absolutely great reason.. > > > > That person could’nt able to accumulate wealth even during the best period of tht planet as he was “busy in his studiesâ€�… > > > > Based on this, if death time/period of a person comes, tht person will not die , provided he/she is “busyâ€�. & he/she can be “busyâ€� in anything like,studies, business or anything else. > > Only thing required is that he/she should be busy. > > Then whats the power of any planet if it cant make people work according to it. > > Had the planet is really sig of wealth & in its best period( madadasha).. it should drawn the native anyhow into acculumulating wealth,either through completion of studies at an earlier age or anyhow. > > Atleast think of a reason which no one deny at first place. > > > > Another example is tht a person with exact horo of Sachin Tendulkar …has to be Tendulkar himself.. & no body else…if he’s anyone else.. > > > > Bhaskar ji will tell..that as he was “busy in studiesâ€� ..he could’nt become Tendulkar. > > > > Ok..just simple answer a simple question raised by Bhaskar ji himself: > > > > “But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house.. > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?â€� > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Sonali > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Monday, January 18, 2010 9:06 PM > @gro ups.com > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > Dear Sonali ji, > > I am sory but I have not yet been able to send my point across. > > If a native has a planet Mars who is a significator of a child in his > Horoscope, then how would you expect this native to give birth to > children if the Mars Mahadasha comes to him before age 15 ? Will he be > married before age 15 by his parents to produce children or will he be > sent to school to study ? > > In same manner when it comes to creation of wealth, You have yourself > accepted that the boy in question was studying, then from which part of > the heavens can he pick out wealth and display it , even if his Venus > Mahadasha was running and Venus Mahadasha signifies wealth ? > > You are not trying to understand. Yes Venus certainly promises wealth > creations for him, but the boy was not in business or service, then how > could he create wealth ? And okay from 1ge 18 he could earn or have love > affairs or marry. But did you allow him to go out and have love affairs, > and marry ? or work and earn money ? If not Then how how can we expect > things to happen on its own ? > > And between age 18 -25 when the Venus Mahadasha was ending and in its > last stages, I have already proved through the significators, that he > could not have earnt good wealth..due to the antardasha Lords which deny > the type of wealth which you are looking for. > > I will once again explain in short and for full and final..before I > leave this thread. > > 1) The planet Venus does promise wealth to the native. > 2) But the Venus Mahadasha comes to him from age 5 to 25. > 3) At this age nobody works , unless he is born on the road, and you too > have accepted that the boy was studying, so how can we expect wealth > creations from him ? > 4) Between age 18-25 when he was at the last stage of Venus Mahadasha, > he was not running positive antardashas, and he was also studying, so > how could you expect him to earn good wealth, have love affairs, marry > and bring in money ? Did you or his parents ask him to work after age 18 > ? If not then from where will money come ? > > You are not trying to understand the simple crux of the matter, and I am > unable to make you understand. > > Lets leave it... > > Bhaskar. > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> , SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > At the outset ,I’d like to give u thanks, for putting your > valuable time to study this case. > > > > My pointwise reply is as under: > > > > > > > > 1.// as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give > money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full > mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the > longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// > > > > Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a > planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole > dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain > happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for > whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet > the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change > even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every > week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or > every week of the month give the same type of results ? > ............ ....No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in > line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same > results everyday ? > > > > Reply: I cant believe that a person of caliber like bhaskar ji has > interpretated this in this narrow manner. > > > > Here my point is that, if ve is surely going to provide wealth as > pointed out by Bhaskar ji himself. > > > > So the logical interpretation would be to think that during its > mahadasha which if a fairly long period of 20 years,ve should’ve > given wealth during the whole period AS A WHOLE, & NOT EVERYDAY/EVERY > HOUR/EVERY MIN. i.e.if one measure result of Ve mahadasha as a whole, > one should be in a position to conclude that ve mahadasha was favourable > to the native in terms of wealth which is not the case here. > > > > 2. //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing > happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his > studies & nothing substantial happened related with ve. If ve is > considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a > period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must > have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to > be the strongest.// > > > > Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 > do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have > happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We > are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples > of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 > ...) > > > > Reply: â€Å"What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 do ? Earn > wealth, and have love affairs and marryâ€Â� > > > > Not a boy, but obviously yes , a teenager/young man of 20-25 is always > expected to earn wealth ( if he is running Ve mahadasha & if ve is a > strong sig of money as pointed by bhaskarji himself as its not totally > abnormal for a young person to accumulate wealth in age group 20-25 > atleast , if not earlier & have atleast love affairs( ve is strong sig > of 5,6,3,11) if not marriage/love marriage. > > > > 3.At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 > > > > Look at what saturn signifies. > > > > Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 > > > > At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 > > > > Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 > > > > At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 > > > > Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 > > > > Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show > great figures of wealth creations ??? > > > > Reply: during age of 5-17, we ourselves should not expect the native > to earn wealth & during 18-25,dashas are not favourable to earn wealth > as pointed by Bhaskar ji, > > > > Then what is the overall result of Ve mahadasha of 20 years if Ve is > said to be a strong sig of Money in this case?? When its results are > likely to be in full swing..??? > > > > As in words of Bhaskar ji himself: > > > > â€Å"But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money > whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests > the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to > ownership of the 2nd house.. > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No > planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets > represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?â€Â� > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.// Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an > important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the > time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but > same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// > > > > In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in > an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 > could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it > will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a > teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his > could have provided what you are looking for. > > > > Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to > understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn > millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... > > > > Reply: to the extent I understand KP, RP at the time of actual event > must be in agreement with significators of that event based on > TOB.Thus,if they dnt tally, TOB can be assumed to be incorrect. > I’m not expecting the native to be a millionaire or not but if ve > is a strong sig of money/wealth & he’s running through ve > Mahadasha, atleast he can be assumed to have earned something more than > a few thousand rupees, which he didn’t during its mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> [k_p_ system@grou ps.com <% 40. com> ] > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Saturday, January 16, 2010 12:11 PM > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali ji, > > > > // as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give > money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full > mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the > longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// > > > > Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a > planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole > dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain > happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for > whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet > the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change > even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every > week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or > every week of the month give the same type of results ? > ............ ....No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in > line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same > results everyday ? > > > > // Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms > of wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native.// > > > > This is again absurd expectations and not in Line. why should Venus > always represent Love or marriage ? Its the natural karaka-Yes. But then > its also karaka for jewels and automobiles etc.. Do You mean to say that > ever body running Venus dasha will have Love affairs, marriage, wealth > creations etc.. > > > > Apart from being natural karaka every planet has got its designated > role to play which changes with every individual Horoscope. You must > check what gives Love affairs in your Horoscope. What gives marriage in > Your horoscope? here what means - Which planet and at what period. > > > > //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened > to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & > nothing substantial > > > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth > & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which > can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this > the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest.// > > > > Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 > do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have > happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We > are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples > of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 > ...) > > > > Here some commonsense is necessary and not too much astrology is > required to know the why .. > > > > At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 > > > > Look at what saturn signifies. > > > > Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 > > > > At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 > > > > Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 > > > > At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 > > > > Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 > > > > Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show > great figures of wealth creations ??? > > > > and does a boy in that age concentrate on his studies in India (Or > elsewhere in the world) or do his parents push him in business or > profession ? Then how can we expect him to earn money during this age > even if we suppose that the last two antardasha could have given him > some money ? > > > > // Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important > planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of > incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same > when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// > > > > In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in > an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 > could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it > will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a > teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his > could have provided what you are looking for. > > > > Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to > understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn > millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... > > > > //Here I’m not expecting that full period of 20 > years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period > of 20 years must have produced substantial result// > > > > Last 5 years of his venus mahadasha I have already proved with the > figures what you could have expected the native to bring in as outputs > had you put him in work, instead of studies. And before that we cannot > expect a boy between age 5 to 17 to work and produce wealth for us . Or > do we ? > > > > I dismiss the above case as expecting absudities and illogical results > at an unsuitable age from the native in question. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> , SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your input to the case. > > > > > > > > > > > > As pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give > money. > > > > > > If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha > means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest > amongst the planets of 20 years), > > > > > > Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms of > wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native. > > > > > > During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened > to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & > nothing substantial > > > > > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for > wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years > ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to > the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here I’m not expecting that full period of 20 > years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period > of 20 years must have produced substantial result. > > > > > > > > > > > > Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important > planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of > incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same > when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> [k_p_ system@grou ps.com <% 40. com> ] > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > Friday, January 15, 2010 1:33 AM > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry. But what type of KP are we doing.. > > > If any planet gives money or shows money or wealth creations like in > this case Venus .. > > > Ve 6,11 Sun 5,3 Moon 10,1,2 > > > Venus is clearly to give wealth, but how can one expect venus to > give money all of 20 years ? Would the antardasha Lords go to sleep till > then ? > > > > > > But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever > its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th > and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership > of the 2nd house.. > > > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No > planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets > represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ? > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > <% 40. com> , Naresh Valecha superstaar_n_ v@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali,ÃÆ'‚ I took up the details that were put up by > you and rectified the birth time accordingly. You did not mention the > time of birth which has been originally recorded before correcting > it.ÃÆ'‚ Although RP's at the time of judgement give you a clear > picture of birth lagna IÃÆ'‚ would like to know what time has > been originally recorded before rectification was done by you. > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > SONALI sonali.me.2009@ > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > <% 40. com> > > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 11:55 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nareshji, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > If you wish, I can provide you date wise incidents in > nativeÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢s life to cross check whether rectified > TOB is correct or not. > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ Sonali > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou > ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > > Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:16 AM > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali, Sincerely IÃÆ'‚ could not understand the table > andÃÆ'‚ as per your table and calculationsÃÆ'‚ I could not > follow how Venus isÃÆ'‚ anÃÆ'‚ Important planet during its > own Dasa.Venus if you see is in the sixth house and also itÃÆ'‚ > is in 6-8 relation with respect to its own house, i.e if we count 2 as > lagna Venus falls in the eighth, besides it is also the sixth and > twelveth cuspal sublord, again it is in the star of Sun lord of 2 with > Mars lord of 10th and 5. Venus is in the sub of moon afflicted by Saturn > and Ketu too, Moon-ketu being together in the tenth. Note the strenght > of Moon too its only 02-28 in Aries.ÃÆ'‚ Afflicted and weak moon > in no way can give the native a good Venus Dasa.This is KP. > > > > > > > > Now coming to the traditional astrological part. Aries Sade-Sati > (7 -1/2 yrs of Saturn) started from feb.1996-2003. When the 10th house > is posited with moon and isÃÆ'‚ afflicted by malefics Sani and > Ketu. During Sade-Sati 7-1/2yrs of Saturns transit the native has to > struggle much through the houses signified by Saturn and Moon if they > are not connected with favourably.ÃÆ'‚ How could Venus be a chief > important planet, Venus in the Sub of afflicted Moon and under the sway > of Saturn's transitÃÆ'‚ from 1996-2003. > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 8:20 PM > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Valechaji, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Thnx for your analysis. > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > But if your analysis is considered as correct , how ve is coming > as most imp money yielding planet as evident from the table: > > > > So the basic question remains unanswered. > > > > Thus either TOB is uncorrect or at 20.51.48,ve must come as most > imp money yielding planet so as to tally with actual incidents. > > > > & if same is most imp money yielding planet, why it failed to > yield the same during its full mahadasha of 20 yrs itself. > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ SIGN LRD > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ STR LRD > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ SUB > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ TOTAL > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ % > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ RANK > > > > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > 2.04 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 7.05 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 2.04 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 11.14 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 4 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 8 > > > > 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ÃÆ'‚ 11 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 23.01 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 18.45 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 22.45 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 63.91 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 21 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > 8.30 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 0.56 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 8.86 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 3 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 11.73 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 39.56 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 51.29 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 17 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 3.63 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 17.70 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 21.33 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 7 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 100.00 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 100.00 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 100.00 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 300.00 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 100.00 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ Sonali > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou > ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > > Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:56 PM > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali, the time rectified isÃÆ'‚ nearly correct except > as I found the SSL Sun instead of Venus giving me a time as 20.52.30. > ruling planets taken on 12/01/2010; 07-11am; Ambernath. The rectified > lagna as per my verification should be Moon-Guru-Rahu- Sun. The main > question is what is the important planet.? if we analyse Venus dasa on > the whole Venus being lord of 4 and 11, posited in the Sixth with > Mercury the lord of 3,12 it wouldÃÆ'‚ not give good results being > in the sixth. TheÃÆ'‚ period from 1995 end(Saturn bhukti) would > mark the start of hurdles. In short during Venus Dasa the native had to > struggle. Sun-Sun, Sun-Moon, Sun Mars could not yield much.Sun dasa > promises good resultsÃÆ'‚ partiallyÃÆ'‚ during > Sun-Rahu & Jupiter bhukti only. Sun-Sat dasa would not prove beneficial, > Sun-Ketu, Sun-VenÃÆ'‚ wouldÃÆ'‚ be fair enough,ÃÆ'‚ > Now the question arises why the emphasis on Sun Dasa -Rahu & Jupiter > Bhukti gave good results because in the year 2004 Jupiter was transiting > in > > > > Leo second house of the native and all the stars in Leo gave > sucess with Education, career and status. In Short Dasa-Bhukti- Antara > lordsÃÆ'‚ prove fruitful during their transits in favourable > houses viz. 1,2,3,6,10,11. > > > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 11/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Monday, 11 January, 2010, 9:24 PM > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TWji, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Note: plz read dob as 2-12-1976 > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Then what according to you, should be the correct TOB ( for the > same horo lajmiji has corrected TOB as 20.20) > > > > But , based on this TOB, 5th sub is Sa & as per KP,if sub of 5th > is sig of 8/12 houses,native will have losses from Stock market. > > > > While actually, native is having profit from stock market although > not very substantial or in the manner expected by native. > > > > Thus, tob of 20.20 does not hold true based on income from stock > market. > > > > Can you/anyone else correct above tob, given the fact that > calendar year 2004 was the best year so far in > nativeÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢s life(from education,career, financial > point of view) > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ Sonali > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou > ps.com] On Behalf Of TW > > > > Monday, January 11, 2010 7:14 PM > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > 1. Dob: 02 dec 176? 1976? > > > > If 1976 and consequently Asc Cn 02:49:05 (KPNA 23:26:41), there is > no way to get money in Sun Dasa*, and so the rectified TOB is not > tallied with live event. > > > > *Su(5,3); in star and sub Me(5,4-12). > > > > 2. There is also no way to calculate such figures for planet. > > > > In KP, significators are ranked by order of A,B,C,D & E decided by > sub signification, taking into account of whether having no planet in > their stars or own star or own sub, RPS (if applied) on case by case > basis etc. > > > > Regards, > > > > TW > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All Respected Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In case of a person with birth details as under: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dob: 02 dec 176 > > > > > > > > > > Tob 20.51.48( as corrected with RP method) > > > > > > > > > > Place Shujalpur(M. P.) > > > > > > > > > > Sex Male > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Various Most imp money incidents are observed : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This tables shows how much each of the planet has contributed as > > > > > Sign/str/sub lord as RP (Lagn & mon position) at the most close > time of > > > > > incident: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > > > > > SIGN LRD > > > > > > > > > > STR LRD > > > > > > > > > > SUB > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > > > % > > > > > > > > > > RANK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > 7.05 > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > 11.14 > > > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > > > > > > 20.03 > > > > > > > > > > 28.15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 48.18 > > > > > > > > > > 16 > > > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > > > > > > 31.76 > > > > > > > > > > 9.38 > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > 43.19 > > > > > > > > > > 14 > > > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > > > > > > 14.85 > > > > > > > > > > 2.60 > > > > > > > > > > 15.64 > > > > > > > > > > 33.09 > > > > > > > > > > 11 > > > > > > > > > > 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > > > > > 23.01 > > > > > > > > > > 18.45 > > > > > > > > > > 22.45 > > > > > > > > > > 63.91 > > > > > > > > > > 21 > > > > > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > > > > > 8.30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0.56 > > > > > > > > > > 8.86 > > > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.73 > > > > > > > > > > 39.56 > > > > > > > > > > 51.29 > > > > > > > > > > 17 > > > > > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.63 > > > > > > > > > > 17.70 > > > > > > > > > > 21.33 > > > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > 300.00 > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From above, it appears that, ve is the most imp money giving > planet.But > > > > > above money incidents occurred after passing of Full mahadasha > of ve of 20 > > > > > years. > > > > > > > > > > I.e.above incidents occurred during Su mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > If ve is supposed to be the most imp money giving planet(as > appeared from > > > > > above table), why it failed to yield any such results during its > Mahadasha > > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Dear Bhaskarji & Sonaliji Sorry ,incomplete mail somehow went through.However I had made my point. Sorry to intervine. Regards A.K.Sehgal--- On Wed, 20/1/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET Date: Wednesday, 20 January, 2010, 12:51 AM Dear Sonali ji , What type of perverted expectations are we keeping from a lad who is studying just because his Dasha Lord in his childhood period is signifying wealth ? And what type of baseless illogical examples are you presenting to just justify your points, I am really fazed out by now.. I have told you in my previous mail too, that if a boy is running a dasha whose Lord signifies the 5th house, then do you pxect the boy if he is under age 15, to go out and make babies ? Or if a man in age of 80 is running a dasha of a planet which signifies marriage, then do you think that he will go out and get married ? We need some commonsense on astrology, and astrology is not to be used in a foolish manner in the way suggested. If a planet signifies marriage and it comes as a dasha ord at age 12 to a child, do you expect the planet to draw him to his marriage somehow ? HaHa. What type of astrology are you into ? from where have you learnt such type of knowledge to associate planets with events at illogical ages ??? Bhaskar. -- In @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > Absolutely great reason.. > > > > That person could’nt able to accumulate wealth even during the best period of tht planet as he was “busy in his studiesâ€�… > > > > Based on this, if death time/period of a person comes, tht person will not die , provided he/she is “busyâ€�. & he/she can be “busyâ€� in anything like,studies, business or anything else. > > Only thing required is that he/she should be busy. > > Then whats the power of any planet if it cant make people work according to it. > > Had the planet is really sig of wealth & in its best period( madadasha).. it should drawn the native anyhow into acculumulating wealth,either through completion of studies at an earlier age or anyhow. > > Atleast think of a reason which no one deny at first place. > > > > Another example is tht a person with exact horo of Sachin Tendulkar …has to be Tendulkar himself.. & no body else…if he’s anyone else.. > > > > Bhaskar ji will tell..that as he was “busy in studiesâ€� ..he could’nt become Tendulkar. > > > > Ok..just simple answer a simple question raised by Bhaskar ji himself: > > > > “But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house.. > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?â€� > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Sonali > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Monday, January 18, 2010 9:06 PM > @gro ups.com > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > Dear Sonali ji, > > I am sory but I have not yet been able to send my point across. > > If a native has a planet Mars who is a significator of a child in his > Horoscope, then how would you expect this native to give birth to > children if the Mars Mahadasha comes to him before age 15 ? Will he be > married before age 15 by his parents to produce children or will he be > sent to school to study ? > > In same manner when it comes to creation of wealth, You have yourself > accepted that the boy in question was studying, then from which part of > the heavens can he pick out wealth and display it , even if his Venus > Mahadasha was running and Venus Mahadasha signifies wealth ? > > You are not trying to understand. Yes Venus certainly promises wealth > creations for him, but the boy was not in business or service, then how > could he create wealth ? And okay from 1ge 18 he could earn or have love > affairs or marry. But did you allow him to go out and have love affairs, > and marry ? or work and earn money ? If not Then how how can we expect > things to happen on its own ? > > And between age 18 -25 when the Venus Mahadasha was ending and in its > last stages, I have already proved through the significators, that he > could not have earnt good wealth..due to the antardasha Lords which deny > the type of wealth which you are looking for. > > I will once again explain in short and for full and final..before I > leave this thread. > > 1) The planet Venus does promise wealth to the native. > 2) But the Venus Mahadasha comes to him from age 5 to 25. > 3) At this age nobody works , unless he is born on the road, and you too > have accepted that the boy was studying, so how can we expect wealth > creations from him ? > 4) Between age 18-25 when he was at the last stage of Venus Mahadasha, > he was not running positive antardashas, and he was also studying, so > how could you expect him to earn good wealth, have love affairs, marry > and bring in money ? Did you or his parents ask him to work after age 18 > ? If not then from where will money come ? > > You are not trying to understand the simple crux of the matter, and I am > unable to make you understand. > > Lets leave it... > > Bhaskar. > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> , SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > At the outset ,I’d like to give u thanks, for putting your > valuable time to study this case. > > > > My pointwise reply is as under: > > > > > > > > 1.// as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give > money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full > mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the > longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// > > > > Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a > planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole > dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain > happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for > whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet > the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change > even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every > week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or > every week of the month give the same type of results ? > ............ ....No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in > line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same > results everyday ? > > > > Reply: I cant believe that a person of caliber like bhaskar ji has > interpretated this in this narrow manner. > > > > Here my point is that, if ve is surely going to provide wealth as > pointed out by Bhaskar ji himself. > > > > So the logical interpretation would be to think that during its > mahadasha which if a fairly long period of 20 years,ve should’ve > given wealth during the whole period AS A WHOLE, & NOT EVERYDAY/EVERY > HOUR/EVERY MIN. i.e.if one measure result of Ve mahadasha as a whole, > one should be in a position to conclude that ve mahadasha was favourable > to the native in terms of wealth which is not the case here. > > > > 2. //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing > happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his > studies & nothing substantial happened related with ve. If ve is > considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a > period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must > have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to > be the strongest.// > > > > Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 > do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have > happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We > are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples > of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 > ...) > > > > Reply: â€Å"What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 do ? Earn > wealth, and have love affairs and marryâ€Â� > > > > Not a boy, but obviously yes , a teenager/young man of 20-25 is always > expected to earn wealth ( if he is running Ve mahadasha & if ve is a > strong sig of money as pointed by bhaskarji himself as its not totally > abnormal for a young person to accumulate wealth in age group 20-25 > atleast , if not earlier & have atleast love affairs( ve is strong sig > of 5,6,3,11) if not marriage/love marriage. > > > > 3.At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 > > > > Look at what saturn signifies. > > > > Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 > > > > At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 > > > > Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 > > > > At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 > > > > Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 > > > > Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show > great figures of wealth creations ??? > > > > Reply: during age of 5-17, we ourselves should not expect the native > to earn wealth & during 18-25,dashas are not favourable to earn wealth > as pointed by Bhaskar ji, > > > > Then what is the overall result of Ve mahadasha of 20 years if Ve is > said to be a strong sig of Money in this case?? When its results are > likely to be in full swing..??? > > > > As in words of Bhaskar ji himself: > > > > â€Å"But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money > whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests > the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to > ownership of the 2nd house.. > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No > planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets > represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?â€Â� > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.// Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an > important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the > time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but > same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// > > > > In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in > an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 > could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it > will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a > teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his > could have provided what you are looking for. > > > > Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to > understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn > millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... > > > > Reply: to the extent I understand KP, RP at the time of actual event > must be in agreement with significators of that event based on > TOB.Thus,if they dnt tally, TOB can be assumed to be incorrect. > I’m not expecting the native to be a millionaire or not but if ve > is a strong sig of money/wealth & he’s running through ve > Mahadasha, atleast he can be assumed to have earned something more than > a few thousand rupees, which he didn’t during its mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> [k_p_ system@grou ps.com <% 40. com> ] > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Saturday, January 16, 2010 12:11 PM > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali ji, > > > > // as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give > money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full > mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the > longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// > > > > Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a > planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole > dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain > happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for > whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet > the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change > even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every > week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or > every week of the month give the same type of results ? > ............ ....No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in > line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same > results everyday ? > > > > // Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms > of wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native.// > > > > This is again absurd expectations and not in Line. why should Venus > always represent Love or marriage ? Its the natural karaka-Yes. But then > its also karaka for jewels and automobiles etc.. Do You mean to say that > ever body running Venus dasha will have Love affairs, marriage, wealth > creations etc.. > > > > Apart from being natural karaka every planet has got its designated > role to play which changes with every individual Horoscope. You must > check what gives Love affairs in your Horoscope. What gives marriage in > Your horoscope? here what means - Which planet and at what period. > > > > //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened > to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & > nothing substantial > > > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth > & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which > can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this > the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest.// > > > > Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 > do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have > happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We > are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples > of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 > ...) > > > > Here some commonsense is necessary and not too much astrology is > required to know the why .. > > > > At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 > > > > Look at what saturn signifies. > > > > Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 > > > > At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 > > > > Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 > > > > At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 > > > > Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 > > > > Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show > great figures of wealth creations ??? > > > > and does a boy in that age concentrate on his studies in India (Or > elsewhere in the world) or do his parents push him in business or > profession ? Then how can we expect him to earn money during this age > even if we suppose that the last two antardasha could have given him > some money ? > > > > // Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important > planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of > incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same > when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// > > > > In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in > an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 > could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it > will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a > teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his > could have provided what you are looking for. > > > > Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to > understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn > millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... > > > > //Here I’m not expecting that full period of 20 > years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period > of 20 years must have produced substantial result// > > > > Last 5 years of his venus mahadasha I have already proved with the > figures what you could have expected the native to bring in as outputs > had you put him in work, instead of studies. And before that we cannot > expect a boy between age 5 to 17 to work and produce wealth for us . Or > do we ? > > > > I dismiss the above case as expecting absudities and illogical results > at an unsuitable age from the native in question. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> , SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your input to the case. > > > > > > > > > > > > As pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give > money. > > > > > > If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha > means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest > amongst the planets of 20 years), > > > > > > Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms of > wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native. > > > > > > During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened > to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & > nothing substantial > > > > > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for > wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years > ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to > the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here I’m not expecting that full period of 20 > years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period > of 20 years must have produced substantial result. > > > > > > > > > > > > Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important > planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of > incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same > when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> [k_p_ system@grou ps.com <% 40. com> ] > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > Friday, January 15, 2010 1:33 AM > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry. But what type of KP are we doing.. > > > If any planet gives money or shows money or wealth creations like in > this case Venus .. > > > Ve 6,11 Sun 5,3 Moon 10,1,2 > > > Venus is clearly to give wealth, but how can one expect venus to > give money all of 20 years ? Would the antardasha Lords go to sleep till > then ? > > > > > > But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever > its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th > and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership > of the 2nd house.. > > > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No > planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets > represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ? > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > <% 40. com> , Naresh Valecha superstaar_n_ v@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali,ÃÆ'‚ I took up the details that were put up by > you and rectified the birth time accordingly. You did not mention the > time of birth which has been originally recorded before correcting > it.ÃÆ'‚ Although RP's at the time of judgement give you a clear > picture of birth lagna IÃÆ'‚ would like to know what time has > been originally recorded before rectification was done by you. > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > SONALI sonali.me.2009@ > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > <% 40. com> > > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 11:55 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nareshji, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > If you wish, I can provide you date wise incidents in > nativeÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢s life to cross check whether rectified > TOB is correct or not. > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ Sonali > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou > ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > > Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:16 AM > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali, Sincerely IÃÆ'‚ could not understand the table > andÃÆ'‚ as per your table and calculationsÃÆ'‚ I could not > follow how Venus isÃÆ'‚ anÃÆ'‚ Important planet during its > own Dasa.Venus if you see is in the sixth house and also itÃÆ'‚ > is in 6-8 relation with respect to its own house, i.e if we count 2 as > lagna Venus falls in the eighth, besides it is also the sixth and > twelveth cuspal sublord, again it is in the star of Sun lord of 2 with > Mars lord of 10th and 5. Venus is in the sub of moon afflicted by Saturn > and Ketu too, Moon-ketu being together in the tenth. Note the strenght > of Moon too its only 02-28 in Aries.ÃÆ'‚ Afflicted and weak moon > in no way can give the native a good Venus Dasa.This is KP. > > > > > > > > Now coming to the traditional astrological part. Aries Sade-Sati > (7 -1/2 yrs of Saturn) started from feb.1996-2003. When the 10th house > is posited with moon and isÃÆ'‚ afflicted by malefics Sani and > Ketu. During Sade-Sati 7-1/2yrs of Saturns transit the native has to > struggle much through the houses signified by Saturn and Moon if they > are not connected with favourably.ÃÆ'‚ How could Venus be a chief > important planet, Venus in the Sub of afflicted Moon and under the sway > of Saturn's transitÃÆ'‚ from 1996-2003. > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 8:20 PM > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Valechaji, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Thnx for your analysis. > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > But if your analysis is considered as correct , how ve is coming > as most imp money yielding planet as evident from the table: > > > > So the basic question remains unanswered. > > > > Thus either TOB is uncorrect or at 20.51.48,ve must come as most > imp money yielding planet so as to tally with actual incidents. > > > > & if same is most imp money yielding planet, why it failed to > yield the same during its full mahadasha of 20 yrs itself. > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ SIGN LRD > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ STR LRD > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ SUB > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ TOTAL > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ % > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ RANK > > > > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > 2.04 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 7.05 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 2.04 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 11.14 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 4 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 8 > > > > 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> > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 31.76 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 9.38 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 2.04 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 43.19 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 14 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 14.85 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 2.60 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 15.64 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 33.09 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 11 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 23.01 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 18.45 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 22.45 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 63.91 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 21 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > 8.30 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 0.56 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 8.86 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 3 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 11.73 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 39.56 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 51.29 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 17 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 3.63 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 17.70 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 21.33 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 7 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 100.00 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 100.00 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 100.00 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 300.00 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 100.00 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ Sonali > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou > ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > > Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:56 PM > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali, the time rectified isÃÆ'‚ nearly correct except > as I found the SSL Sun instead of Venus giving me a time as 20.52.30. > ruling planets taken on 12/01/2010; 07-11am; Ambernath. The rectified > lagna as per my verification should be Moon-Guru-Rahu- Sun. The main > question is what is the important planet.? if we analyse Venus dasa on > the whole Venus being lord of 4 and 11, posited in the Sixth with > Mercury the lord of 3,12 it wouldÃÆ'‚ not give good results being > in the sixth. TheÃÆ'‚ period from 1995 end(Saturn bhukti) would > mark the start of hurdles. In short during Venus Dasa the native had to > struggle. Sun-Sun, Sun-Moon, Sun Mars could not yield much.Sun dasa > promises good resultsÃÆ'‚ partiallyÃÆ'‚ during > Sun-Rahu & Jupiter bhukti only. Sun-Sat dasa would not prove beneficial, > Sun-Ketu, Sun-VenÃÆ'‚ wouldÃÆ'‚ be fair enough,ÃÆ'‚ > Now the question arises why the emphasis on Sun Dasa -Rahu & Jupiter > Bhukti gave good results because in the year 2004 Jupiter was transiting > in > > > > Leo second house of the native and all the stars in Leo gave > sucess with Education, career and status. In Short Dasa-Bhukti- Antara > lordsÃÆ'‚ prove fruitful during their transits in favourable > houses viz. 1,2,3,6,10,11. > > > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 11/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Monday, 11 January, 2010, 9:24 PM > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TWji, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Note: plz read dob as 2-12-1976 > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Then what according to you, should be the correct TOB ( for the > same horo lajmiji has corrected TOB as 20.20) > > > > But , based on this TOB, 5th sub is Sa & as per KP,if sub of 5th > is sig of 8/12 houses,native will have losses from Stock market. > > > > While actually, native is having profit from stock market although > not very substantial or in the manner expected by native. > > > > Thus, tob of 20.20 does not hold true based on income from stock > market. > > > > Can you/anyone else correct above tob, given the fact that > calendar year 2004 was the best year so far in > nativeÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢s life(from education,career, financial > point of view) > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ Sonali > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou > ps.com] On Behalf Of TW > > > > Monday, January 11, 2010 7:14 PM > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > 1. Dob: 02 dec 176? 1976? > > > > If 1976 and consequently Asc Cn 02:49:05 (KPNA 23:26:41), there is > no way to get money in Sun Dasa*, and so the rectified TOB is not > tallied with live event. > > > > *Su(5,3); in star and sub Me(5,4-12). > > > > 2. There is also no way to calculate such figures for planet. > > > > In KP, significators are ranked by order of A,B,C,D & E decided by > sub signification, taking into account of whether having no planet in > their stars or own star or own sub, RPS (if applied) on case by case > basis etc. > > > > Regards, > > > > TW > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All Respected Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In case of a person with birth details as under: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dob: 02 dec 176 > > > > > > > > > > Tob 20.51.48( as corrected with RP method) > > > > > > > > > > Place Shujalpur(M. P.) > > > > > > > > > > Sex Male > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Various Most imp money incidents are observed : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This tables shows how much each of the planet has contributed as > > > > > Sign/str/sub lord as RP (Lagn & mon position) at the most close > time of > > > > > incident: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > > > > > SIGN LRD > > > > > > > > > > STR LRD > > > > > > > > > > SUB > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > > > % > > > > > > > > > > RANK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > 7.05 > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > 11.14 > > > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > > > > > > 20.03 > > > > > > > > > > 28.15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 48.18 > > > > > > > > > > 16 > > > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > > > > > > 31.76 > > > > > > > > > > 9.38 > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > 43.19 > > > > > > > > > > 14 > > > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > > > > > > 14.85 > > > > > > > > > > 2.60 > > > > > > > > > > 15.64 > > > > > > > > > > 33.09 > > > > > > > > > > 11 > > > > > > > > > > 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > > > > > 23.01 > > > > > > > > > > 18.45 > > > > > > > > > > 22.45 > > > > > > > > > > 63.91 > > > > > > > > > > 21 > > > > > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > > > > > 8.30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0.56 > > > > > > > > > > 8.86 > > > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.73 > > > > > > > > > > 39.56 > > > > > > > > > > 51.29 > > > > > > > > > > 17 > > > > > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.63 > > > > > > > > > > 17.70 > > > > > > > > > > 21.33 > > > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > 300.00 > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From above, it appears that, ve is the most imp money giving > planet.But > > > > > above money incidents occurred after passing of Full mahadasha > of ve of 20 > > > > > years. > > > > > > > > > > I.e.above incidents occurred during Su mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > If ve is supposed to be the most imp money giving planet(as > appeared from > > > > > above table), why it failed to yield any such results during its > Mahadasha > > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 DEAR SONALI I DIDNT FOLLOW THIS TOPIC from the beggining but i see a reason in your thinking yes if a planet supposed to give some benifit in its dasa it should show its benifit in any type. in early ages benifits come through studies or achiving success and prizes through various reasons example my grand daughter went to attend to take a certificate in her course she is 9 years age at the end they conducted a rafil and she got the 1st prize like it apart from the age one can win lottaries (parents bye in their names )if they destined gain wealth or their name bring fortune to their parents just i wrote my logic but i am not good in any thing and pl excuse me if i am wrong thanking you santa boorla --- On Tue, 1/19/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009 wrote:SONALI <sonali.me.2009RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 7:43 PM Dear Bhaskar ji, Absolutely great reason.. That person could’nt able to accumulate wealth even during the best period of tht planet as he was “busy in his studiesâ€â€¦ Based on this, if death time/period of a person comes, tht person will not die , provided he/she is “busyâ€. & he/she can be “busy†in anything like,studies, business or anything else. Only thing required is that he/she should be busy. Then whats the power of any planet if it cant make people work according to it. Had the planet is really sig of wealth & in its best period( madadasha).. it should drawn the native anyhow into acculumulating wealth,either through completion of studies at an earlier age or anyhow. Atleast think of a reason which no one deny at first place. Another example is tht a person with exact horo of Sachin Tendulkar …has to be Tendulkar himself.. & no body else…if he’s anyone else.. Bhaskar ji will tell..that as he was “busy in studies†..he could’nt become Tendulkar. Ok..just simple answer a simple question raised by Bhaskar ji himself: “But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house.. Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?†Thanks & Regards, Sonali @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar Monday, January 18, 2010 9:06 PM @gro ups.com Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET Dear Sonali ji, I am sory but I have not yet been able to send my point across. If a native has a planet Mars who is a significator of a child in his Horoscope, then how would you expect this native to give birth to children if the Mars Mahadasha comes to him before age 15 ? Will he be married before age 15 by his parents to produce children or will he be sent to school to study ? In same manner when it comes to creation of wealth, You have yourself accepted that the boy in question was studying, then from which part of the heavens can he pick out wealth and display it , even if his Venus Mahadasha was running and Venus Mahadasha signifies wealth ? You are not trying to understand. Yes Venus certainly promises wealth creations for him, but the boy was not in business or service, then how could he create wealth ? And okay from 1ge 18 he could earn or have love affairs or marry. But did you allow him to go out and have love affairs, and marry ? or work and earn money ? If not Then how how can we expect things to happen on its own ? And between age 18 -25 when the Venus Mahadasha was ending and in its last stages, I have already proved through the significators, that he could not have earnt good wealth..due to the antardasha Lords which deny the type of wealth which you are looking for. I will once again explain in short and for full and final..before I leave this thread. 1) The planet Venus does promise wealth to the native. 2) But the Venus Mahadasha comes to him from age 5 to 25. 3) At this age nobody works , unless he is born on the road, and you too have accepted that the boy was studying, so how can we expect wealth creations from him ? 4) Between age 18-25 when he was at the last stage of Venus Mahadasha, he was not running positive antardashas, and he was also studying, so how could you expect him to earn good wealth, have love affairs, marry and bring in money ? Did you or his parents ask him to work after age 18 ? If not then from where will money come ? You are not trying to understand the simple crux of the matter, and I am unable to make you understand. Lets leave it... Bhaskar. @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > At the outset ,I’d like to give u thanks, for putting your valuable time to study this case. > > My pointwise reply is as under: > > > > 1.// as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// > > Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or every week of the month give the same type of results ? ............. ....No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same results everyday ? > > Reply: I cant believe that a person of caliber like bhaskar ji has interpretated this in this narrow manner. > > Here my point is that, if ve is surely going to provide wealth as pointed out by Bhaskar ji himself. > > So the logical interpretation would be to think that during its mahadasha which if a fairly long period of 20 years,ve should’ve given wealth during the whole period AS A WHOLE, & NOT EVERYDAY/EVERY HOUR/EVERY MIN. i.e.if one measure result of Ve mahadasha as a whole, one should be in a position to conclude that ve mahadasha was favourable to the native in terms of wealth which is not the case here. > > 2. //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & nothing substantial happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest.// > > Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 ....) > > Reply: “What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry†> > Not a boy, but obviously yes , a teenager/young man of 20-25 is always expected to earn wealth ( if he is running Ve mahadasha & if ve is a strong sig of money as pointed by bhaskarji himself as its not totally abnormal for a young person to accumulate wealth in age group 20-25 atleast , if not earlier & have atleast love affairs( ve is strong sig of 5,6,3,11) if not marriage/love marriage. > > 3.At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 > > Look at what saturn signifies. > > Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 > > At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 > > Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 > > At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 > > Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 > > Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show great figures of wealth creations ??? > > Reply: during age of 5-17, we ourselves should not expect the native to earn wealth & during 18-25,dashas are not favourable to earn wealth as pointed by Bhaskar ji, > > Then what is the overall result of Ve mahadasha of 20 years if Ve is said to be a strong sig of Money in this case?? When its results are likely to be in full swing..??? > > As in words of Bhaskar ji himself: > > “But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house.. > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?†> > > > > > 4.// Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// > > In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his could have provided what you are looking for. > > Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... > > Reply: to the extent I understand KP, RP at the time of actual event must be in agreement with significators of that event based on TOB.Thus,if they dnt tally, TOB can be assumed to be incorrect. I’m not expecting the native to be a millionaire or not but if ve is a strong sig of money/wealth & he’s running through ve Mahadasha, atleast he can be assumed to have earned something more than a few thousand rupees, which he didn’t during its mahadasha. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Sonali > > > > @gro ups.com [@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Saturday, January 16, 2010 12:11 PM > @gro ups.com > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > Dear Sonali ji, > > // as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// > > Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or every week of the month give the same type of results ? ............. ....No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same results everyday ? > > // Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms of wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native.// > > This is again absurd expectations and not in Line. why should Venus always represent Love or marriage ? Its the natural karaka-Yes. But then its also karaka for jewels and automobiles etc.. Do You mean to say that ever body running Venus dasha will have Love affairs, marriage, wealth creations etc.. > > Apart from being natural karaka every planet has got its designated role to play which changes with every individual Horoscope. You must check what gives Love affairs in your Horoscope. What gives marriage in Your horoscope? here what means - Which planet and at what period. > > //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & nothing substantial > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest.// > > Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 ....) > > Here some commonsense is necessary and not too much astrology is required to know the why .. > > At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 > > Look at what saturn signifies. > > Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 > > At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 > > Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 > > At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 > > Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 > > Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show great figures of wealth creations ??? > > and does a boy in that age concentrate on his studies in India (Or elsewhere in the world) or do his parents push him in business or profession ? Then how can we expect him to earn money during this age even if we suppose that the last two antardasha could have given him some money ? > > // Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// > > In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his could have provided what you are looking for. > > Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... > > //Here I’m not expecting that full period of 20 years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period of 20 years must have produced substantial result// > > Last 5 years of his venus mahadasha I have already proved with the figures what you could have expected the native to bring in as outputs had you put him in work, instead of studies. And before that we cannot expect a boy between age 5 to 17 to work and produce wealth for us . Or do we ? > > I dismiss the above case as expecting absudities and illogical results at an unsuitable age from the native in question. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > @gro ups.com, SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your input to the case. > > > > > > > > As pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give money. > > > > If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest amongst the planets of 20 years), > > > > Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms of wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native. > > > > During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & nothing substantial > > > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest. > > > > > > > > Here I’m not expecting that full period of 20 years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period of 20 years must have produced substantial result. > > > > > > > > Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Friday, January 15, 2010 1:33 AM > > @gro ups.com > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry. But what type of KP are we doing.. > > If any planet gives money or shows money or wealth creations like in this case Venus .. > > Ve 6,11 Sun 5,3 Moon 10,1,2 > > Venus is clearly to give wealth, but how can one expect venus to give money all of 20 years ? Would the antardasha Lords go to sleep till then ? > > > > But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house.. > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ? > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> , Naresh Valecha superstaar_n_ v@ wrote: > > > > > > Hi Sonali, I took up the details that were put up by you and rectified the birth time accordingly. You did not mention the time of birth which has been originally recorded before correcting it. Although RP's at the time of judgement give you a clear picture of birth lagna I would like to know what time has been originally recorded before rectification was done by you. > > >  > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > SONALI sonali.me.2009@ > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 11:55 AM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nareshji, > > >  > > > If you wish, I can provide you date wise incidents in native’s life to cross check whether rectified TOB is correct or not. > > >  > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > >  Sonali > > >  > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:16 AM > > > @gro ups.com > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali, Sincerely I could not understand the table and as per your table and calculations I could not follow how Venus is an Important planet during its own Dasa.Venus if you see is in the sixth house and also it is in 6-8 relation with respect to its own house, i.e if we count 2 as lagna Venus falls in the eighth, besides it is also the sixth and twelveth cuspal sublord, again it is in the star of Sun lord of 2 with Mars lord of 10th and 5. Venus is in the sub of moon afflicted by Saturn and Ketu too, Moon-ketu being together in the tenth. Note the strenght of Moon too its only 02-28 in Aries. Afflicted and weak moon in no way can give the native a good Venus Dasa.This is KP. > > > > > > Now coming to the traditional astrological part. Aries Sade-Sati (7 -1/2 yrs of Saturn) started from feb.1996-2003. When the 10th house is posited with moon and is afflicted by malefics Sani and Ketu. During Sade-Sati 7-1/2yrs of Saturns transit the native has to struggle much through the houses signified by Saturn and Moon if they are not connected with favourably. How could Venus be a chief important planet, Venus in the Sub of afflicted Moon and under the sway of Saturn's transit from 1996-2003. > > > > > >  > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > @gro ups.com > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 8:20 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Valechaji, > > >  > > > Thnx for your analysis. > > >  > > > But if your analysis is considered as correct , how ve is coming as most imp money yielding planet as evident from the table: > > > So the basic question remains unanswered. > > > Thus either TOB is uncorrect or at 20.51.48,ve must come as most imp money yielding planet so as to tally with actual incidents. > > > & if same is most imp money yielding planet, why it failed to yield the same during its full mahadasha of 20 yrs itself. > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > >  SIGN LRD > > > > > >  STR LRD > > > > > >  SUB > > > > > >  TOTAL > > > > > >  % > > > > > >  RANK > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > >                              2.04 > > > > > >          7.05 > > > > > >             2.04 > > > > > >       11.14 > > > > > >             4 > > > > > >             8 > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > >                                   -  > > > > > >       19.01 > > > > > >  > > > > > >       19.01 > > > > > >             6 > > > > > >             7 > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > >                            20.03 > > > > > >       28.15 > > > > > >  > > > > > >       48.18 > > > > > >           16 > > > > > >             3 > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > >                            31.76 > > > > > >          9.38 > > > > > >             2.04 > > > > > >       43.19 > > > > > >           14 > > > > > >             4 > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > >                            14.85 > > > > > >          2.60 > > > > > >           15.64 > > > > > >       33.09 > > > > > >           11 > > > > > >             5 > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > >                            23.01 > > > > > >       18.45 > > > > > >           22.45 > > > > > >       63.91 > > > > > >           21 > > > > > >             1 > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > >                              8.30 > > > > > >  > > > > > >             0.56 > > > > > >          8.86 > > > > > >             3 > > > > > >             9 > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > >  > > > > > >       11.73 > > > > > >           39.56 > > > > > >       51.29 > > > > > >           17 > > > > > >             2 > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > >  > > > > > >          3.63 > > > > > >           17.70 > > > > > >       21.33 > > > > > >             7 > > > > > >             6 > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > >                         100.00 > > > > > >     100.00 > > > > > >         100.00 > > > > > >     300.00 > > > > > >   100.00 > > > > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > >  Sonali > > >  > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:56 PM > > > @gro ups.com > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali, the time rectified is nearly correct except as I found the SSL Sun instead of Venus giving me a time as 20.52.30. ruling planets taken on 12/01/2010; 07-11am; Ambernath. The rectified lagna as per my verification should be Moon-Guru-Rahu- Sun. The main question is what is the important planet.? if we analyse Venus dasa on the whole Venus being lord of 4 and 11, posited in the Sixth with Mercury the lord of 3,12 it would not give good results being in the sixth. The period from 1995 end(Saturn bhukti) would mark the start of hurdles. In short during Venus Dasa the native had to struggle. Sun-Sun, Sun-Moon, Sun Mars could not yield much.Sun dasa promises good results partially during Sun-Rahu & Jupiter bhukti only. Sun-Sat dasa would not prove beneficial, Sun-Ketu, Sun-Ven would be fair enough, Now the question arises why the emphasis on Sun Dasa -Rahu & Jupiter Bhukti gave good results because in the year 2004 Jupiter was transiting in > > > Leo second house of the native and all the stars in Leo gave sucess with Education, career and status. In Short Dasa-Bhukti- Antara lords prove fruitful during their transits in favourable houses viz. 1,2,3,6,10,11. > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > --- On Mon, 11/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > @gro ups.com > > > Monday, 11 January, 2010, 9:24 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TWji, > > >  > > > Note: plz read dob as 2-12-1976 > > >  > > > Then what according to you, should be the correct TOB ( for the same horo lajmiji has corrected TOB as 20.20) > > > But , based on this TOB, 5th sub is Sa & as per KP,if sub of 5th is sig of 8/12 houses,native will have losses from Stock market. > > > While actually, native is having profit from stock market although not very substantial or in the manner expected by native. > > > Thus, tob of 20.20 does not hold true based on income from stock market. > > > Can you/anyone else correct above tob, given the fact that calendar year 2004 was the best year so far in native’s life(from education,career, financial point of view) > > >  > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > >  Sonali > > >  > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of TW > > > Monday, January 11, 2010 7:14 PM > > > @gro ups.com > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > 1. Dob: 02 dec 176? 1976? > > > If 1976 and consequently Asc Cn 02:49:05 (KPNA 23:26:41), there is no way to get money in Sun Dasa*, and so the rectified TOB is not tallied with live event. > > > *Su(5,3); in star and sub Me(5,4-12). > > > 2. There is also no way to calculate such figures for planet. > > > In KP, significators are ranked by order of A,B,C,D & E decided by sub signification, taking into account of whether having no planet in their stars or own star or own sub, RPS (if applied) on case by case basis etc. > > > Regards, > > > TW > > > > > > @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All Respected Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In case of a person with birth details as under: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dob: 02 dec 176 > > > > > > > > Tob 20.51.48( as corrected with RP method) > > > > > > > > Place Shujalpur(M. P.) > > > > > > > > Sex Male > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Various Most imp money incidents are observed : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This tables shows how much each of the planet has contributed as > > > > Sign/str/sub lord as RP (Lagn & mon position) at the most close time of > > > > incident: > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > > > SIGN LRD > > > > > > > > STR LRD > > > > > > > > SUB > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > % > > > > > > > > RANK > > > > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > 7.05 > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > 11.14 > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > > > > 20.03 > > > > > > > > 28.15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 48.18 > > > > > > > > 16 > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > > > > 31.76 > > > > > > > > 9.38 > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > 43.19 > > > > > > > > 14 > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > > > > 14.85 > > > > > > > > 2.60 > > > > > > > > 15.64 > > > > > > > > 33.09 > > > > > > > > 11 > > > > > > > > 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > > > 23.01 > > > > > > > > 18.45 > > > > > > > > 22.45 > > > > > > > > 63.91 > > > > > > > > 21 > > > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > > > 8.30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0.56 > > > > > > > > 8.86 > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.73 > > > > > > > > 39.56 > > > > > > > > 51.29 > > > > > > > > 17 > > > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.63 > > > > > > > > 17.70 > > > > > > > > 21.33 > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > 300.00 > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From above, it appears that, ve is the most imp money giving planet.But > > > > above money incidents occurred after passing of Full mahadasha of ve of 20 > > > > years. > > > > > > > > I.e.above incidents occurred during Su mahadasha. > > > > > > > > If ve is supposed to be the most imp money giving planet(as appeared from > > > > above table), why it failed to yield any such results during its Mahadasha > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Dear Sonali, In the recent quiz conduct by Mr.ADITH regarding the query on when she got married? All the participants were FAILED in the quiz except one Person who fixed the Dasa at her age of 34+. Most of the participants might have used the logic of any female may marry at the age of 24 to 28 worst may be 32(say for delayed marriage etc). When we look for DBA who is the significator for given marriage in this period range may be selected in general with transit. However it is not happened that way. Similarly some early marriages say at the age of 16+ (this was mentioned by ADITH) also happened. I personally feel that there is something missing in our approach or RULEs may be missing to find the exact events. Without understating it in full about any matter the end result will go wrong only. This I have experienced while doing research on WILL I GET DRIVING LICENCE?. Once you know what is control what? then everything becomes simple. A boy or Girl having age say 26+ running with dasa signigificator of 2,7,11 who’s lagna in SARA(MOVABLE) sign need not always said to be get Marry instead he/she may die also as it is maraka/badaka houses too. Here the logic will not help, only the CUSP/DBA significators , Transit & study of other associated houses can help to find the event. Similarly any planet running the dasa(in your case say VE dasa signifies say 2,6,10, 11) will at least give the results of any one of the karaka/house matter represented by the said significator-house. I am unable to help much on the subject query & sorry for the same. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil--- On Tue, 1/19/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 11:21 AM Dear Sonali ji , What type of perverted expectations are we keeping from a lad who is studying just because his Dasha Lord in his childhood period is signifying wealth ? And what type of baseless illogical examples are you presenting to just justify your points, I am really fazed out by now.. I have told you in my previous mail too, that if a boy is running a dasha whose Lord signifies the 5th house, then do you pxect the boy if he is under age 15, to go out and make babies ? Or if a man in age of 80 is running a dasha of a planet which signifies marriage, then do you think that he will go out and get married ? We need some commonsense on astrology, and astrology is not to be used in a foolish manner in the way suggested. If a planet signifies marriage and it comes as a dasha ord at age 12 to a child, do you expect the planet to draw him to his marriage somehow ? HaHa. What type of astrology are you into ? from where have you learnt such type of knowledge to associate planets with events at illogical ages ??? Bhaskar. -- In @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > Absolutely great reason.. > > > > That person could’nt able to accumulate wealth even during the best period of tht planet as he was “busy in his studiesâ€�… > > > > Based on this, if death time/period of a person comes, tht person will not die , provided he/she is “busyâ€�. & he/she can be “busyâ€� in anything like,studies, business or anything else. > > Only thing required is that he/she should be busy. > > Then whats the power of any planet if it cant make people work according to it. > > Had the planet is really sig of wealth & in its best period( madadasha).. it should drawn the native anyhow into acculumulating wealth,either through completion of studies at an earlier age or anyhow. > > Atleast think of a reason which no one deny at first place. > > > > Another example is tht a person with exact horo of Sachin Tendulkar …has to be Tendulkar himself.. & no body else…if he’s anyone else.. > > > > Bhaskar ji will tell..that as he was “busy in studiesâ€� ..he could’nt become Tendulkar. > > > > Ok..just simple answer a simple question raised by Bhaskar ji himself: > > > > “But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house.. > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?â€� > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Sonali > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Monday, January 18, 2010 9:06 PM > @gro ups.com > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > Dear Sonali ji, > > I am sory but I have not yet been able to send my point across. > > If a native has a planet Mars who is a significator of a child in his > Horoscope, then how would you expect this native to give birth to > children if the Mars Mahadasha comes to him before age 15 ? Will he be > married before age 15 by his parents to produce children or will he be > sent to school to study ? > > In same manner when it comes to creation of wealth, You have yourself > accepted that the boy in question was studying, then from which part of > the heavens can he pick out wealth and display it , even if his Venus > Mahadasha was running and Venus Mahadasha signifies wealth ? > > You are not trying to understand. Yes Venus certainly promises wealth > creations for him, but the boy was not in business or service, then how > could he create wealth ? And okay from 1ge 18 he could earn or have love > affairs or marry. But did you allow him to go out and have love affairs, > and marry ? or work and earn money ? If not Then how how can we expect > things to happen on its own ? > > And between age 18 -25 when the Venus Mahadasha was ending and in its > last stages, I have already proved through the significators, that he > could not have earnt good wealth..due to the antardasha Lords which deny > the type of wealth which you are looking for. > > I will once again explain in short and for full and final..before I > leave this thread. > > 1) The planet Venus does promise wealth to the native. > 2) But the Venus Mahadasha comes to him from age 5 to 25. > 3) At this age nobody works , unless he is born on the road, and you too > have accepted that the boy was studying, so how can we expect wealth > creations from him ? > 4) Between age 18-25 when he was at the last stage of Venus Mahadasha, > he was not running positive antardashas, and he was also studying, so > how could you expect him to earn good wealth, have love affairs, marry > and bring in money ? Did you or his parents ask him to work after age 18 > ? If not then from where will money come ? > > You are not trying to understand the simple crux of the matter, and I am > unable to make you understand. > > Lets leave it... > > Bhaskar. > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> , SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > At the outset ,I’d like to give u thanks, for putting your > valuable time to study this case. > > > > My pointwise reply is as under: > > > > > > > > 1.// as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give > money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full > mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the > longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// > > > > Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a > planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole > dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain > happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for > whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet > the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change > even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every > week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or > every week of the month give the same type of results ? > ............ ....No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in > line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same > results everyday ? > > > > Reply: I cant believe that a person of caliber like bhaskar ji has > interpretated this in this narrow manner. > > > > Here my point is that, if ve is surely going to provide wealth as > pointed out by Bhaskar ji himself. > > > > So the logical interpretation would be to think that during its > mahadasha which if a fairly long period of 20 years,ve should’ve > given wealth during the whole period AS A WHOLE, & NOT EVERYDAY/EVERY > HOUR/EVERY MIN. i.e.if one measure result of Ve mahadasha as a whole, > one should be in a position to conclude that ve mahadasha was favourable > to the native in terms of wealth which is not the case here. > > > > 2. //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing > happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his > studies & nothing substantial happened related with ve. If ve is > considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a > period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must > have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to > be the strongest.// > > > > Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 > do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have > happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We > are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples > of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 > ...) > > > > Reply: â€Å"What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 do ? Earn > wealth, and have love affairs and marryâ€Â� > > > > Not a boy, but obviously yes , a teenager/young man of 20-25 is always > expected to earn wealth ( if he is running Ve mahadasha & if ve is a > strong sig of money as pointed by bhaskarji himself as its not totally > abnormal for a young person to accumulate wealth in age group 20-25 > atleast , if not earlier & have atleast love affairs( ve is strong sig > of 5,6,3,11) if not marriage/love marriage. > > > > 3.At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 > > > > Look at what saturn signifies. > > > > Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 > > > > At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 > > > > Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 > > > > At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 > > > > Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 > > > > Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show > great figures of wealth creations ??? > > > > Reply: during age of 5-17, we ourselves should not expect the native > to earn wealth & during 18-25,dashas are not favourable to earn wealth > as pointed by Bhaskar ji, > > > > Then what is the overall result of Ve mahadasha of 20 years if Ve is > said to be a strong sig of Money in this case?? When its results are > likely to be in full swing..??? > > > > As in words of Bhaskar ji himself: > > > > â€Å"But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money > whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests > the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to > ownership of the 2nd house.. > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No > planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets > represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?â€Â� > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.// Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an > important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the > time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but > same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// > > > > In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in > an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 > could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it > will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a > teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his > could have provided what you are looking for. > > > > Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to > understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn > millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... > > > > Reply: to the extent I understand KP, RP at the time of actual event > must be in agreement with significators of that event based on > TOB.Thus,if they dnt tally, TOB can be assumed to be incorrect. > I’m not expecting the native to be a millionaire or not but if ve > is a strong sig of money/wealth & he’s running through ve > Mahadasha, atleast he can be assumed to have earned something more than > a few thousand rupees, which he didn’t during its mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> [k_p_ system@grou ps.com <% 40. com> ] > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Saturday, January 16, 2010 12:11 PM > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali ji, > > > > // as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give > money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full > mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the > longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// > > > > Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a > planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole > dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain > happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for > whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet > the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change > even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every > week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or > every week of the month give the same type of results ? > ............ ....No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in > line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same > results everyday ? > > > > // Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms > of wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native.// > > > > This is again absurd expectations and not in Line. why should Venus > always represent Love or marriage ? Its the natural karaka-Yes. But then > its also karaka for jewels and automobiles etc.. Do You mean to say that > ever body running Venus dasha will have Love affairs, marriage, wealth > creations etc.. > > > > Apart from being natural karaka every planet has got its designated > role to play which changes with every individual Horoscope. You must > check what gives Love affairs in your Horoscope. What gives marriage in > Your horoscope? here what means - Which planet and at what period. > > > > //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened > to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & > nothing substantial > > > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth > & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which > can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this > the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest.// > > > > Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 > do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have > happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We > are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples > of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 > ...) > > > > Here some commonsense is necessary and not too much astrology is > required to know the why .. > > > > At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 > > > > Look at what saturn signifies. > > > > Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 > > > > At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 > > > > Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 > > > > At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 > > > > Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 > > > > Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show > great figures of wealth creations ??? > > > > and does a boy in that age concentrate on his studies in India (Or > elsewhere in the world) or do his parents push him in business or > profession ? Then how can we expect him to earn money during this age > even if we suppose that the last two antardasha could have given him > some money ? > > > > // Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important > planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of > incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same > when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// > > > > In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in > an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 > could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it > will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a > teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his > could have provided what you are looking for. > > > > Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to > understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn > millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... > > > > //Here I’m not expecting that full period of 20 > years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period > of 20 years must have produced substantial result// > > > > Last 5 years of his venus mahadasha I have already proved with the > figures what you could have expected the native to bring in as outputs > had you put him in work, instead of studies. And before that we cannot > expect a boy between age 5 to 17 to work and produce wealth for us . Or > do we ? > > > > I dismiss the above case as expecting absudities and illogical results > at an unsuitable age from the native in question. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> , SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your input to the case. > > > > > > > > > > > > As pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give > money. > > > > > > If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha > means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest > amongst the planets of 20 years), > > > > > > Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms of > wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native. > > > > > > During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened > to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & > nothing substantial > > > > > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for > wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years > ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to > the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here I’m not expecting that full period of 20 > years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period > of 20 years must have produced substantial result. > > > > > > > > > > > > Plz note that I’m not in favour that Ve is an important > planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of > incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same > when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> [k_p_ system@grou ps.com <% 40. com> ] > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > Friday, January 15, 2010 1:33 AM > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry. But what type of KP are we doing.. > > > If any planet gives money or shows money or wealth creations like in > this case Venus .. > > > Ve 6,11 Sun 5,3 Moon 10,1,2 > > > Venus is clearly to give wealth, but how can one expect venus to > give money all of 20 years ? Would the antardasha Lords go to sleep till > then ? > > > > > > But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever > its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th > and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership > of the 2nd house.. > > > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No > planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets > represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ? > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > <% 40. com> , Naresh Valecha superstaar_n_ v@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali,ÃÆ'‚ I took up the details that were put up by > you and rectified the birth time accordingly. You did not mention the > time of birth which has been originally recorded before correcting > it.ÃÆ'‚ Although RP's at the time of judgement give you a clear > picture of birth lagna IÃÆ'‚ would like to know what time has > been originally recorded before rectification was done by you. > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > SONALI sonali.me.2009@ > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > <% 40. com> > > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 11:55 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nareshji, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > If you wish, I can provide you date wise incidents in > nativeÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢s life to cross check whether rectified > TOB is correct or not. > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ Sonali > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou > ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > > Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:16 AM > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali, Sincerely IÃÆ'‚ could not understand the table > andÃÆ'‚ as per your table and calculationsÃÆ'‚ I could not > follow how Venus isÃÆ'‚ anÃÆ'‚ Important planet during its > own Dasa.Venus if you see is in the sixth house and also itÃÆ'‚ > is in 6-8 relation with respect to its own house, i.e if we count 2 as > lagna Venus falls in the eighth, besides it is also the sixth and > twelveth cuspal sublord, again it is in the star of Sun lord of 2 with > Mars lord of 10th and 5. Venus is in the sub of moon afflicted by Saturn > and Ketu too, Moon-ketu being together in the tenth. Note the strenght > of Moon too its only 02-28 in Aries.ÃÆ'‚ Afflicted and weak moon > in no way can give the native a good Venus Dasa.This is KP. > > > > > > > > Now coming to the traditional astrological part. Aries Sade-Sati > (7 -1/2 yrs of Saturn) started from feb.1996-2003. When the 10th house > is posited with moon and isÃÆ'‚ afflicted by malefics Sani and > Ketu. During Sade-Sati 7-1/2yrs of Saturns transit the native has to > struggle much through the houses signified by Saturn and Moon if they > are not connected with favourably.ÃÆ'‚ How could Venus be a chief > important planet, Venus in the Sub of afflicted Moon and under the sway > of Saturn's transitÃÆ'‚ from 1996-2003. > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 8:20 PM > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Valechaji, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Thnx for your analysis. > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > But if your analysis is considered as correct , how ve is coming > as most imp money yielding planet as evident from the table: > > > > So the basic question remains unanswered. > > > > Thus either TOB is uncorrect or at 20.51.48,ve must come as most > imp money yielding planet so as to tally with actual incidents. > > > > & if same is most imp money yielding planet, why it failed to > yield the same during its full mahadasha of 20 yrs itself. > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ SIGN LRD > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ STR LRD > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ SUB > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ TOTAL > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ % > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ RANK > > > > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > 2.04 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 7.05 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 2.04 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 11.14 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 4 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ -ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 19.01 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 19.01 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 6 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 20.03 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 28.15 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 48.18 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 16 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 31.76 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 9.38 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 2.04 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 43.19 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 14 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 14.85 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 2.60 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 15.64 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 33.09 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 11 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 23.01 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 18.45 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 22.45 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 63.91 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 21 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > 8.30 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 0.56 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 8.86 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 3 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 11.73 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 39.56 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 51.29 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 17 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 3.63 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 17.70 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 21.33 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 7 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ 100.00 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 100.00 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 100.00 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 300.00 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ 100.00 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ Sonali > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou > ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > > Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:56 PM > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali, the time rectified isÃÆ'‚ nearly correct except > as I found the SSL Sun instead of Venus giving me a time as 20.52.30. > ruling planets taken on 12/01/2010; 07-11am; Ambernath. The rectified > lagna as per my verification should be Moon-Guru-Rahu- Sun. The main > question is what is the important planet.? if we analyse Venus dasa on > the whole Venus being lord of 4 and 11, posited in the Sixth with > Mercury the lord of 3,12 it wouldÃÆ'‚ not give good results being > in the sixth. TheÃÆ'‚ period from 1995 end(Saturn bhukti) would > mark the start of hurdles. In short during Venus Dasa the native had to > struggle. Sun-Sun, Sun-Moon, Sun Mars could not yield much.Sun dasa > promises good resultsÃÆ'‚ partiallyÃÆ'‚ during > Sun-Rahu & Jupiter bhukti only. Sun-Sat dasa would not prove beneficial, > Sun-Ketu, Sun-VenÃÆ'‚ wouldÃÆ'‚ be fair enough,ÃÆ'‚ > Now the question arises why the emphasis on Sun Dasa -Rahu & Jupiter > Bhukti gave good results because in the year 2004 Jupiter was transiting > in > > > > Leo second house of the native and all the stars in Leo gave > sucess with Education, career and status. In Short Dasa-Bhukti- Antara > lordsÃÆ'‚ prove fruitful during their transits in favourable > houses viz. 1,2,3,6,10,11. > > > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 11/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Monday, 11 January, 2010, 9:24 PM > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TWji, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Note: plz read dob as 2-12-1976 > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Then what according to you, should be the correct TOB ( for the > same horo lajmiji has corrected TOB as 20.20) > > > > But , based on this TOB, 5th sub is Sa & as per KP,if sub of 5th > is sig of 8/12 houses,native will have losses from Stock market. > > > > While actually, native is having profit from stock market although > not very substantial or in the manner expected by native. > > > > Thus, tob of 20.20 does not hold true based on income from stock > market. > > > > Can you/anyone else correct above tob, given the fact that > calendar year 2004 was the best year so far in > nativeÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢s life(from education,career, financial > point of view) > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > ÃÆ'‚ Sonali > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou > ps.com] On Behalf Of TW > > > > Monday, January 11, 2010 7:14 PM > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > 1. Dob: 02 dec 176? 1976? > > > > If 1976 and consequently Asc Cn 02:49:05 (KPNA 23:26:41), there is > no way to get money in Sun Dasa*, and so the rectified TOB is not > tallied with live event. > > > > *Su(5,3); in star and sub Me(5,4-12). > > > > 2. There is also no way to calculate such figures for planet. > > > > In KP, significators are ranked by order of A,B,C,D & E decided by > sub signification, taking into account of whether having no planet in > their stars or own star or own sub, RPS (if applied) on case by case > basis etc. > > > > Regards, > > > > TW > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All Respected Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In case of a person with birth details as under: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dob: 02 dec 176 > > > > > > > > > > Tob 20.51.48( as corrected with RP method) > > > > > > > > > > Place Shujalpur(M. P.) > > > > > > > > > > Sex Male > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Various Most imp money incidents are observed : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This tables shows how much each of the planet has contributed as > > > > > Sign/str/sub lord as RP (Lagn & mon position) at the most close > time of > > > > > incident: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > > > > > SIGN LRD > > > > > > > > > > STR LRD > > > > > > > > > > SUB > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > > > % > > > > > > > > > > RANK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > 7.05 > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > 11.14 > > > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > > > > > > 20.03 > > > > > > > > > > 28.15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 48.18 > > > > > > > > > > 16 > > > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > > > > > > 31.76 > > > > > > > > > > 9.38 > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > 43.19 > > > > > > > > > > 14 > > > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > > > > > > 14.85 > > > > > > > > > > 2.60 > > > > > > > > > > 15.64 > > > > > > > > > > 33.09 > > > > > > > > > > 11 > > > > > > > > > > 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > > > > > 23.01 > > > > > > > > > > 18.45 > > > > > > > > > > 22.45 > > > > > > > > > > 63.91 > > > > > > > > > > 21 > > > > > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > > > > > 8.30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0.56 > > > > > > > > > > 8.86 > > > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.73 > > > > > > > > > > 39.56 > > > > > > > > > > 51.29 > > > > > > > > > > 17 > > > > > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.63 > > > > > > > > > > 17.70 > > > > > > > > > > 21.33 > > > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > 300.00 > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From above, it appears that, ve is the most imp money giving > planet.But > > > > > above money incidents occurred after passing of Full mahadasha > of ve of 20 > > > > > years. > > > > > > > > > > I.e.above incidents occurred during Su mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > If ve is supposed to be the most imp money giving planet(as > appeared from > > > > > above table), why it failed to yield any such results during its > Mahadasha > > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Dear Senthil ji, // Similarly any planet running the dasa(in your case say VE dasa signifies say 2,6,10, 11) will at least give the results of any one of the karaka/house matter represented by the said significator-house. // We are sending wrong signals to aspirants looking for wealth at wrong ages of natives under question. Wea re also trying to remove the " Karma " factor by making such suggestions. One cannot just have the promises or effects in full without putting in requisite efforts (Chesthas). The elders have always taught us that first do " Yatna " ....subsequently " Prayatna " ....and then tadantar (eventually) , " Devyatna " . That is belief in destiny, Horoscopes, Astrology or good fortunes and expectations from GOD. So I will never suggest to Sonali that just because Venus Mahadasha signifies wealth, then it must come somehow to him at an most inappropriate age of 5 when his Mahadasha begun, when any boy at that age is not working but studying. Do you in other words mean to say that because a planet is running 5, 11 significations at age 60 to a lady, then we must predict her, that " You will ahve children now Madam " . 5, 11 could mean that her money is being invested in Stock markets and she is gaining from there. Plus it could mean a host of other matters too. 2 and 7 could give marriage to a native in his youth, but would prove to be a maraka at age 75. 4 and 9 could give studies to a boy of 12 but to a young man of age 24 who is doing his higher studies could probably push him towards Phd and to a man of age 50 could make him go for religious teerth yatras or interest in studying religious scriptures. One needs to use commonsense while predicting results in astrology. Because 5 and 11 is running to a unmarried lady we cannot predict that " You will have a child now " ...instead we could possibly predict that she " Could have a Love marriage " , and that too only if she is asking us for such inputs and not otherwise.... In same manner, when this boy is running 2,6,10, 11, it could also means that he could have at some point of his Venus Dasha have received a golden or silver necklace from his family elders ( 2nd house of ktumba, and 11th of gains). He could have also done well in his studies or won in some local games or competetions. He could have even received a thousand rupees ebvelope with love from one of his Uncles or Grandfather.. But I would not agree that the boy must for definite EARN WEALTH during the Venus Mahadsha at an inappropriate age of 5 years when the Venus Mahadasha started in his Life and neither make such statements that " ......... I personally feel that there is something missing in our approach or RULEs may be missing to find the exact events. Without understating it in full about any matter the end result will go wrong only......... " And quizzes are not essentialy or mandatorily a parameter or scale of judging whether astrological rules are working or not, by the way. regards, Bhaskar. , Senthil <athi_ram wrote: > > Dear Sonali, >  > In the recent quiz conduct by Mr.ADITH regarding the query on when she got married? All the participants were FAILED in the quiz except one Person who fixed the Dasa at her age of 34+. Most of the participants might have used the logic of any female may marry at the age of 24 to 28 worst may be 32(say for delayed marriage etc). When we look for DBA who is the significator for given marriage in this period range may be selected in general with transit. However it is not happened that way. Similarly some early marriages say at the age of 16+ (this was mentioned by ADITH) also happened. I personally feel that there is something missing in our approach or RULEs may be missing to find the exact events. Without understating it in full about any matter the end result will go wrong only. This I have experienced while doing research on WILL I GET DRIVING LICENCE?. Once you know what is control what? then everything becomes simple. >  > A boy or Girl having age say 26+ running with dasa signigificator of 2,7,11 who’s lagna in SARA(MOVABLE) sign need not always said to be get Marry instead he/she may die also as it is maraka/badaka houses too. Here the logic will not help, only the CUSP/DBA significators , Transit & study of other associated houses can help to find the event. >  > Similarly any planet running the dasa(in your case say VE dasa signifies say 2,6,10, 11) will at least give the results of any one of the karaka/house matter represented by the said significator-house. >  > I am unable to help much on the subject query & sorry for the same. >  > GOOD LUCK!! >  > D.Senthil > > --- On Tue, 1/19/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 11:21 AM > > >  > > > > > Dear Sonali ji , > What type of perverted expectations are we keeping from a lad who is studying just because his Dasha Lord in his childhood period is signifying wealth ? > And what type of baseless illogical examples are you presenting to just justify your points, I am really fazed out by now.. > I have told you in my previous mail too, that if a boy is running a dasha whose Lord signifies the 5th house, then do you pxect the boy if he is under age 15, to go out and make babies ? > Or if a man in age of 80 is running a dasha of a planet which signifies marriage, then do you think that he will go out and get married ? > We need some commonsense on astrology, and astrology is not to be used in a foolish manner in the way suggested. > If a planet signifies marriage and it comes as a dasha ord at age 12 to a child, do you expect the planet to draw him to his marriage somehow ? HaHa. What type of astrology are you into ? from where have you learnt such type of knowledge to associate planets with events at illogical ages ??? > Bhaskar. >  > -- In @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > Absolutely great reason.. > > > > > > > > That person could’nt able to accumulate wealth even during the best period of tht planet as he was  " busy in his studies�… > > > > > > > > Based on this, if death time/period of a person comes, tht person will not die , provided he/she is  " busy�. & he/she can be  " busy� in anything like,studies, business or anything else. > > > > Only thing required is that he/she should be busy. > > > > Then whats the power of any planet if it cant make people work according to it. > > > > Had the planet is really sig of wealth & in its best period( madadasha).. it should drawn the native anyhow into acculumulating wealth,either through completion of studies at an earlier age or anyhow. > > > > Atleast think of a reason which no one deny at first place. > > > > > > > > Another example is tht a person with exact horo of Sachin Tendulkar …has to be Tendulkar himself.. & no body else…if he’s anyone else.. > > > > > > > > Bhaskar ji will tell..that as he was  " busy in studies� ..he could’nt become Tendulkar. > > > > > > > > Ok..just simple answer a simple question raised by Bhaskar ji himself: > > > > > > > >  " But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house.. > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?� > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Monday, January 18, 2010 9:06 PM > > @gro ups.com > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali ji, > > > > I am sory but I have not yet been able to send my point across. > > > > If a native has a planet Mars who is a significator of a child in his > > Horoscope, then how would you expect this native to give birth to > > children if the Mars Mahadasha comes to him before age 15 ? Will he be > > married before age 15 by his parents to produce children or will he be > > sent to school to study ? > > > > In same manner when it comes to creation of wealth, You have yourself > > accepted that the boy in question was studying, then from which part of > > the heavens can he pick out wealth and display it , even if his Venus > > Mahadasha was running and Venus Mahadasha signifies wealth ? > > > > You are not trying to understand. Yes Venus certainly promises wealth > > creations for him, but the boy was not in business or service, then how > > could he create wealth ? And okay from 1ge 18 he could earn or have love > > affairs or marry. But did you allow him to go out and have love affairs, > > and marry ? or work and earn money ? If not Then how how can we expect > > things to happen on its own ? > > > > And between age 18 -25 when the Venus Mahadasha was ending and in its > > last stages, I have already proved through the significators, that he > > could not have earnt good wealth..due to the antardasha Lords which deny > > the type of wealth which you are looking for. > > > > I will once again explain in short and for full and final..before I > > leave this thread. > > > > 1) The planet Venus does promise wealth to the native. > > 2) But the Venus Mahadasha comes to him from age 5 to 25. > > 3) At this age nobody works , unless he is born on the road, and you too > > have accepted that the boy was studying, so how can we expect wealth > > creations from him ? > > 4) Between age 18-25 when he was at the last stage of Venus Mahadasha, > > he was not running positive antardashas, and he was also studying, so > > how could you expect him to earn good wealth, have love affairs, marry > > and bring in money ? Did you or his parents ask him to work after age 18 > > ? If not then from where will money come ? > > > > You are not trying to understand the simple crux of the matter, and I am > > unable to make you understand. > > > > Lets leave it... > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> , SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > At the outset ,I’d like to give u thanks, for putting your > > valuable time to study this case. > > > > > > My pointwise reply is as under: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.// as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give > > money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full > > mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the > > longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// > > > > > > Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a > > planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole > > dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain > > happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for > > whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet > > the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change > > even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every > > week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or > > every week of the month give the same type of results ? > > ............ ....No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in > > line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same > > results everyday ? > > > > > > Reply: I cant believe that a person of caliber like bhaskar ji has > > interpretated this in this narrow manner. > > > > > > Here my point is that, if ve is surely going to provide wealth as > > pointed out by Bhaskar ji himself. > > > > > > So the logical interpretation would be to think that during its > > mahadasha which if a fairly long period of 20 years,ve should’ve > > given wealth during the whole period AS A WHOLE, & NOT EVERYDAY/EVERY > > HOUR/EVERY MIN. i.e.if one measure result of Ve mahadasha as a whole, > > one should be in a position to conclude that ve mahadasha was favourable > > to the native in terms of wealth which is not the case here. > > > > > > 2. //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing > > happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his > > studies & nothing substantial happened related with ve. If ve is > > considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a > > period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must > > have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to > > be the strongest.// > > > > > > Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 > > do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have > > happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We > > are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples > > of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 > > ...) > > > > > > Reply: â€Å " What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 do ? Earn > > wealth, and have love affairs and marry� > > > > > > Not a boy, but obviously yes , a teenager/young man of 20-25 is always > > expected to earn wealth ( if he is running Ve mahadasha & if ve is a > > strong sig of money as pointed by bhaskarji himself as its not totally > > abnormal for a young person to accumulate wealth in age group 20-25 > > atleast , if not earlier & have atleast love affairs( ve is strong sig > > of 5,6,3,11) if not marriage/love marriage. > > > > > > 3.At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 > > > > > > Look at what saturn signifies. > > > > > > Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 > > > > > > At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 > > > > > > Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 > > > > > > At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 > > > > > > Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 > > > > > > Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show > > great figures of wealth creations ??? > > > > > > Reply: during age of 5-17, we ourselves should not expect the native > > to earn wealth & during 18-25,dashas are not favourable to earn wealth > > as pointed by Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > Then what is the overall result of Ve mahadasha of 20 years if Ve is > > said to be a strong sig of Money in this case?? When its results are > > likely to be in full swing..??? > > > > > > As in words of Bhaskar ji himself: > > > > > > â€Å " But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money > > whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests > > the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to > > ownership of the 2nd house.. > > > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No > > planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets > > represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?� > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.// Plz note that IÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢m not in favour that Ve is an > > important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the > > time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but > > same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// > > > > > > In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in > > an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 > > could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it > > will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a > > teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his > > could have provided what you are looking for. > > > > > > Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to > > understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn > > millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... > > > > > > Reply: to the extent I understand KP, RP at the time of actual event > > must be in agreement with significators of that event based on > > TOB.Thus,if they dnt tally, TOB can be assumed to be incorrect. > > I’m not expecting the native to be a millionaire or not but if ve > > is a strong sig of money/wealth & he’s running through ve > > Mahadasha, atleast he can be assumed to have earned something more than > > a few thousand rupees, which he didn’t during its mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> [k_p_ system@grou ps.com <% 40. com> ] > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > Saturday, January 16, 2010 12:11 PM > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali ji, > > > > > > // as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give > > money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full > > mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the > > longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// > > > > > > Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a > > planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole > > dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain > > happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for > > whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet > > the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change > > even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every > > week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or > > every week of the month give the same type of results ? > > ............ ....No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in > > line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same > > results everyday ? > > > > > > // Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms > > of wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native.// > > > > > > This is again absurd expectations and not in Line. why should Venus > > always represent Love or marriage ? Its the natural karaka-Yes. But then > > its also karaka for jewels and automobiles etc.. Do You mean to say that > > ever body running Venus dasha will have Love affairs, marriage, wealth > > creations etc.. > > > > > > Apart from being natural karaka every planet has got its designated > > role to play which changes with every individual Horoscope. You must > > check what gives Love affairs in your Horoscope. What gives marriage in > > Your horoscope? here what means - Which planet and at what period. > > > > > > //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened > > to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & > > nothing substantial > > > > > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth > > & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which > > can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this > > the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest.// > > > > > > Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 > > do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have > > happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We > > are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples > > of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 > > ...) > > > > > > Here some commonsense is necessary and not too much astrology is > > required to know the why .. > > > > > > At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 > > > > > > Look at what saturn signifies. > > > > > > Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 > > > > > > At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 > > > > > > Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 > > > > > > At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 > > > > > > Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 > > > > > > Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show > > great figures of wealth creations ??? > > > > > > and does a boy in that age concentrate on his studies in India (Or > > elsewhere in the world) or do his parents push him in business or > > profession ? Then how can we expect him to earn money during this age > > even if we suppose that the last two antardasha could have given him > > some money ? > > > > > > // Plz note that IÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢m not in favour that Ve is an important > > planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of > > incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same > > when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// > > > > > > In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in > > an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 > > could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it > > will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a > > teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his > > could have provided what you are looking for. > > > > > > Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to > > understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn > > millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... > > > > > > //Here IÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢m not expecting that full period of 20 > > years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period > > of 20 years must have produced substantial result// > > > > > > Last 5 years of his venus mahadasha I have already proved with the > > figures what you could have expected the native to bring in as outputs > > had you put him in work, instead of studies. And before that we cannot > > expect a boy between age 5 to 17 to work and produce wealth for us . Or > > do we ? > > > > > > I dismiss the above case as expecting absudities and illogical results > > at an unsuitable age from the native in question. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> , SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your input to the case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give > > money. > > > > > > > > If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha > > means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest > > amongst the planets of 20 years), > > > > > > > > Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms of > > wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native. > > > > > > > > During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened > > to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & > > nothing substantial > > > > > > > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for > > wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years > > ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to > > the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here IÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢m not expecting that full period of 20 > > years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period > > of 20 years must have produced substantial result. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Plz note that IÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢m not in favour that Ve is an important > > planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of > > incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same > > when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> [k_p_ system@grou ps.com <% 40. com> ] > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > Friday, January 15, 2010 1:33 AM > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry. But what type of KP are we doing.. > > > > If any planet gives money or shows money or wealth creations like in > > this case Venus .. > > > > Ve 6,11 Sun 5,3 Moon 10,1,2 > > > > Venus is clearly to give wealth, but how can one expect venus to > > give money all of 20 years ? Would the antardasha Lords go to sleep till > > then ? > > > > > > > > But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever > > its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th > > and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership > > of the 2nd house.. > > > > > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No > > planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets > > represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ? > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > > <% 40. com> , Naresh Valecha superstaar_n_ v@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali,ÃÆ'Æ'‚ I took up the details that were put up by > > you and rectified the birth time accordingly. You did not mention the > > time of birth which has been originally recorded before correcting > > it.ÃÆ'Æ'‚ Although RP's at the time of judgement give you a clear > > picture of birth lagna IÃÆ'Æ'‚ would like to know what time has > > been originally recorded before rectification was done by you. > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SONALI sonali.me.2009@ > > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com> > > <% 40. com> > > > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 11:55 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nareshji, > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > If you wish, I can provide you date wise incidents in > > nativeÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'¢â€žÃâ\ €šÃ‚¢s life to cross check whether rectified > > TOB is correct or not. > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ Sonali > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou > > ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > > > Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:16 AM > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali, Sincerely IÃÆ'Æ'‚ could not understand the table > > andÃÆ'Æ'‚ as per your table and calculationsÃÆ'Æ'‚ I could not > > follow how Venus isÃÆ'Æ'‚ anÃÆ'Æ'‚ Important planet during its > > own Dasa.Venus if you see is in the sixth house and also itÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > is in 6-8 relation with respect to its own house, i.e if we count 2 as > > lagna Venus falls in the eighth, besides it is also the sixth and > > twelveth cuspal sublord, again it is in the star of Sun lord of 2 with > > Mars lord of 10th and 5. Venus is in the sub of moon afflicted by Saturn > > and Ketu too, Moon-ketu being together in the tenth. Note the strenght > > of Moon too its only 02-28 in Aries.ÃÆ'Æ'‚ Afflicted and weak moon > > in no way can give the native a good Venus Dasa.This is KP. > > > > > > > > > > Now coming to the traditional astrological part. Aries Sade-Sati > > (7 -1/2 yrs of Saturn) started from feb.1996-2003. When the 10th house > > is posited with moon and isÃÆ'Æ'‚ afflicted by malefics Sani and > > Ketu. During Sade-Sati 7-1/2yrs of Saturns transit the native has to > > struggle much through the houses signified by Saturn and Moon if they > > are not connected with favourably.ÃÆ'Æ'‚ How could Venus be a chief > > important planet, Venus in the Sub of afflicted Moon and under the sway > > of Saturn's transitÃÆ'Æ'‚ from 1996-2003. > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 8:20 PM > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Valechaji, > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > Thnx for your analysis. > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > But if your analysis is considered as correct , how ve is coming > > as most imp money yielding planet as evident from the table: > > > > > So the basic question remains unanswered. > > > > > Thus either TOB is uncorrect or at 20.51.48,ve must come as most > > imp money yielding planet so as to tally with actual incidents. > > > > > & if same is most imp money yielding planet, why it failed to > > yield the same during its full mahadasha of 20 yrs itself. > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ SIGN LRD > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ STR LRD > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ SUB > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ TOTAL > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ % > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ RANK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 7.05 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 11.14 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 4 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ -ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 6 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 20.03 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 28.15 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 48.18 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 16 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 31.76 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 9.38 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 43.19 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 14 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 14.85 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 2.60 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 15.64 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 33.09 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 11 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 23.01 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 18.45 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 22.45 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 63.91 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 21 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > 8.30 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 0.56 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 8.86 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 3 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 11.73 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 39.56 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 51.29 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 17 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 3.63 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 17.70 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 21.33 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 7 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 300.00 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ Sonali > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou > > ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > > > Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:56 PM > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali, the time rectified isÃÆ'Æ'‚ nearly correct except > > as I found the SSL Sun instead of Venus giving me a time as 20.52.30. > > ruling planets taken on 12/01/2010; 07-11am; Ambernath. The rectified > > lagna as per my verification should be Moon-Guru-Rahu- Sun. The main > > question is what is the important planet.? if we analyse Venus dasa on > > the whole Venus being lord of 4 and 11, posited in the Sixth with > > Mercury the lord of 3,12 it wouldÃÆ'Æ'‚ not give good results being > > in the sixth. TheÃÆ'Æ'‚ period from 1995 end(Saturn bhukti) would > > mark the start of hurdles. In short during Venus Dasa the native had to > > struggle. Sun-Sun, Sun-Moon, Sun Mars could not yield much.Sun dasa > > promises good resultsÃÆ'Æ'‚ partiallyÃÆ'Æ'‚ during > > Sun-Rahu & Jupiter bhukti only. Sun-Sat dasa would not prove beneficial, > > Sun-Ketu, Sun-VenÃÆ'Æ'‚ wouldÃÆ'Æ'‚ be fair enough,ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > Now the question arises why the emphasis on Sun Dasa -Rahu & Jupiter > > Bhukti gave good results because in the year 2004 Jupiter was transiting > > in > > > > > Leo second house of the native and all the stars in Leo gave > > sucess with Education, career and status. In Short Dasa-Bhukti- Antara > > lordsÃÆ'Æ'‚ prove fruitful during their transits in favourable > > houses viz. 1,2,3,6,10,11. > > > > > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 11/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Monday, 11 January, 2010, 9:24 PM > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TWji, > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > Note: plz read dob as 2-12-1976 > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > Then what according to you, should be the correct TOB ( for the > > same horo lajmiji has corrected TOB as 20.20) > > > > > But , based on this TOB, 5th sub is Sa & as per KP,if sub of 5th > > is sig of 8/12 houses,native will have losses from Stock market. > > > > > While actually, native is having profit from stock market although > > not very substantial or in the manner expected by native. > > > > > Thus, tob of 20.20 does not hold true based on income from stock > > market. > > > > > Can you/anyone else correct above tob, given the fact that > > calendar year 2004 was the best year so far in > > nativeÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'¢â€žÃâ\ €šÃ‚¢s life(from education,career, financial > > point of view) > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ Sonali > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou > > ps.com] On Behalf Of TW > > > > > Monday, January 11, 2010 7:14 PM > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > 1. Dob: 02 dec 176? 1976? > > > > > If 1976 and consequently Asc Cn 02:49:05 (KPNA 23:26:41), there is > > no way to get money in Sun Dasa*, and so the rectified TOB is not > > tallied with live event. > > > > > *Su(5,3); in star and sub Me(5,4-12). > > > > > 2. There is also no way to calculate such figures for planet. > > > > > In KP, significators are ranked by order of A,B,C,D & E decided by > > sub signification, taking into account of whether having no planet in > > their stars or own star or own sub, RPS (if applied) on case by case > > basis etc. > > > > > Regards, > > > > > TW > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All Respected Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In case of a person with birth details as under: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dob: 02 dec 176 > > > > > > > > > > > > Tob 20.51.48( as corrected with RP method) > > > > > > > > > > > > Place Shujalpur(M. P.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Sex Male > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Various Most imp money incidents are observed : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This tables shows how much each of the planet has contributed as > > > > > > Sign/str/sub lord as RP (Lagn & mon position) at the most close > > time of > > > > > > incident: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > > > > > > > SIGN LRD > > > > > > > > > > > > STR LRD > > > > > > > > > > > > SUB > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > > > > > % > > > > > > > > > > > > RANK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > > > 7.05 > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.14 > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > > > > > > > > 20.03 > > > > > > > > > > > > 28.15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 48.18 > > > > > > > > > > > > 16 > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > > > > > > > > 31.76 > > > > > > > > > > > > 9.38 > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > > > 43.19 > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.85 > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.60 > > > > > > > > > > > > 15.64 > > > > > > > > > > > > 33.09 > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 > > > > > > > > > > > > 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > > > > > > > 23.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > 18.45 > > > > > > > > > > > > 22.45 > > > > > > > > > > > > 63.91 > > > > > > > > > > > > 21 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > > > > > > > 8.30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0.56 > > > > > > > > > > > > 8.86 > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.73 > > > > > > > > > > > > 39.56 > > > > > > > > > > > > 51.29 > > > > > > > > > > > > 17 > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.63 > > > > > > > > > > > > 17.70 > > > > > > > > > > > > 21.33 > > > > > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > 300.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From above, it appears that, ve is the most imp money giving > > planet.But > > > > > > above money incidents occurred after passing of Full mahadasha > > of ve of 20 > > > > > > years. > > > > > > > > > > > > I.e.above incidents occurred during Su mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > If ve is supposed to be the most imp money giving planet(as > > appeared from > > > > > > above table), why it failed to yield any such results during its > > Mahadasha > > > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Dear Bhaskar, Definitely we have to use our commonsense/logic along with house significators. I have not told anywhere that the native will gain wealth. Here my point is that the houses signified by the DBA are operating as per their respective house karaka to give some effect, that is it. For example, a married working person having age say 30-35 range who’s ascendant is in LIBRA(assume that the other cusps are occupied in each one SIGN- that is no two consecutive cups in same SIGN) running DBA signifying 2,5,9,10,11 what we can tell in General? 1) He/she may have child birth (2,5,11) 2) He/she may have good earning through job (2,10,11) 3) He/she may have CHANGE of job (5,9,2,10,11) 4) He/she may have transfer of job (9,10,11) 5) He/she may perform manthra or worship god etc (5,9,11) 6) Etc, etc.. The above are some possible events that may happen (for explanation purpose I have not considered any associated house here). Do you think that the above only can happen? Have we ever thought about what will happen to his/her mother? There is no 4th house is operating in the above signifactor. However if we study the above significator with respect 4th house 5(2 to 4),10(7 to 4) is maraka house for his/her mother ,10 karama for the native, 2 house is badaka house for his/her mother (4th house will fall in MAKARA sign which is MOVABLE hence it is 11th to 4th house –badaka). 9th is 6th to 4th house so his/her mother may fall in sick, 11th is 8th to 4th house some life threatening danger etc and thus finally a death may result(who’s age may be in the range of 55 to 60+). This is what I am trying to say. I accept that the quizzes are not essentially or mandatorily a parameter or scale of judging whether astrological rules are working or not? But always gives way forward. Now ADITH has put the quiz17. A girl who got married at the age of 16+ when she delivered her first baby?. Please attend the quiz and apply your logic/astrology and let us see the results. Kindly take it as the opportunity to fine-tune our astrology knowledge and don’t mistake me. Astrology is a big ocean and learning that is the continuous process. GOOD LUCK!!! D.Senthil --- On Thu, 1/21/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 12:50 AM Dear Senthil ji,// Similarly any planet running the dasa(in your case say VE dasa signifies say 2,6,10, 11) will at least give the results of any one of the karaka/house matter represented by the said significator- house. //We are sending wrong signals to aspirants looking for wealth at wrong ages of natives under question. Wea re also trying to remove the "Karma" factor by making such suggestions. One cannot just have the promises or effects in full without putting in requisite efforts (Chesthas).The elders have always taught us that first do " Yatna"....subsequen tly "Prayatna".. ..and then tadantar (eventually) , "Devyatna". That is belief in destiny, Horoscopes, Astrology or good fortunes and expectations from GOD. So I will never suggest to Sonali that just because Venus Mahadasha signifies wealth, then it must come somehow to him at an most inappropriate age of 5 when his Mahadasha begun, when any boy at that age is not working but studying.Do you in other words mean to say that because a planet is running 5, 11 significations at age 60 to a lady, then we must predict her, that "You will ahve children now Madam". 5, 11 could mean that her money is being invested in Stock markets and she is gaining from there. Plus it could mean a host of other matters too.2 and 7 could give marriage to a native in his youth, but would prove to be a maraka at age 75. 4 and 9 could give studies to a boy of 12 but to a young man of age 24 who is doing his higher studies could probably push him towards Phd and to a man of age 50 could make him go for religious teerth yatras or interest in studying religious scriptures. One needs to use commonsense while predicting results in astrology. Because 5 and 11 is running to a unmarried lady we cannot predict that "You will have a child now"...instead we could possibly predict that she "Could have a Love marriage" , and that too only if she is asking us for such inputs and not otherwise... .In same manner, when this boy is running 2,6,10, 11, it could also means that he could have at some point of his Venus Dasha have received a golden or silver necklace from his family elders ( 2nd house of ktumba, and 11th of gains). He could have also done well in his studies or won in some local games or competetions. He could have even received a thousand rupees ebvelope with love from one of his Uncles or Grandfather. .But I would not agree that the boy must for definite EARN WEALTH during the Venus Mahadsha at an inappropriate age of 5 years when the Venus Mahadasha started in his Life and neither make such statements that "......... I personally feel that there is something missing in our approach or RULEs may be missing to find the exact events. Without understating it in full about any matter the end result will go wrong only........ ." And quizzes are not essentialy or mandatorily a parameter or scale of judging whether astrological rules are working or not, by the way. regards,Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, Senthil <athi_ram@.. .> wrote:>> Dear Sonali,>  > In the recent quiz conduct by Mr.ADITH regarding the query on when she got married? All the participants were FAILED in the quiz except one Person who fixed the Dasa at her age of 34+. Most of the participants might have used the logic of any female may marry at the age of 24 to 28 worst may be 32(say for delayed marriage etc). When we look for DBA who is the significator for given marriage in this period range may be selected in general with transit. However it is not happened that way. Similarly some early marriages say at the age of 16+ (this was mentioned by ADITH) also happened. I personally feel that there is something missing in our approach or RULEs may be missing to find the exact events. Without understating it in full about any matter the end result will go wrong only. This I have experienced while doing research on WILL I GET DRIVING LICENCE?. Once you know what is control what? then everything becomes simple.>  > A boy or Girl having age say 26+ running with dasa signigificator of 2,7,11 who’s lagna in SARA(MOVABLE) sign need not always said to be get Marry instead he/she may die also as it is maraka/badaka houses too. Here the logic will not help, only the CUSP/DBA significators , Transit & study of other associated houses can help to find the event.>  > Similarly any planet running the dasa(in your case say VE dasa signifies say 2,6,10, 11) will at least give the results of any one of the karaka/house matter represented by the said significator- house.>  > I am unable to help much on the subject query & sorry for the same.>  > GOOD LUCK!!>  > D.Senthil> > --- On Tue, 1/19/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET> @gro ups.com> Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 11:21 AM> > >  > > > > > Dear Sonali ji ,> What type of perverted expectations are we keeping from a lad who is studying just because his Dasha Lord in his childhood period is signifying wealth ?> And what type of baseless illogical examples are you presenting to just justify your points, I am really fazed out by now..> I have told you in my previous mail too, that if a boy is running a dasha whose Lord signifies the 5th house, then do you pxect the boy if he is under age 15, to go out and make babies ?> Or if a man in age of 80 is running a dasha of a planet which signifies marriage, then do you think that he will go out and get married ?> We need some commonsense on astrology, and astrology is not to be used in a foolish manner in the way suggested.> If a planet signifies marriage and it comes as a dasha ord at age 12 to a child, do you expect the planet to draw him to his marriage somehow ? HaHa. What type of astrology are you into ? from where have you learnt such type of knowledge to associate planets with events at illogical ages ???> Bhaskar. >  > -- In @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > Absolutely great reason.. > > > > > > > > That person could’nt able to accumulate wealth even during the best period of tht planet as he was â€Å"busy in his studies�… > > > > > > > > Based on this, if death time/period of a person comes, tht person will not die , provided he/she is â€Å"busy�. & he/she can be â€Å"busy� in anything like,studies, business or anything else. > > > > Only thing required is that he/she should be busy. > > > > Then whats the power of any planet if it cant make people work according to it. > > > > Had the planet is really sig of wealth & in its best period( madadasha).. it should drawn the native anyhow into acculumulating wealth,either through completion of studies at an earlier age or anyhow. > > > > Atleast think of a reason which no one deny at first place. > > > > > > > > Another example is tht a person with exact horo of Sachin Tendulkar …has to be Tendulkar himself.. & no body else…if he’s anyone else.. > > > > > > > > Bhaskar ji will tell..that as he was â€Å"busy in studies� ..he could’nt become Tendulkar. > > > > > > > > Ok..just simple answer a simple question raised by Bhaskar ji himself: > > > > > > > > â€Å"But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house.. > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?� > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Monday, January 18, 2010 9:06 PM > > @gro ups.com > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali ji, > > > > I am sory but I have not yet been able to send my point across. > > > > If a native has a planet Mars who is a significator of a child in his > > Horoscope, then how would you expect this native to give birth to > > children if the Mars Mahadasha comes to him before age 15 ? Will he be > > married before age 15 by his parents to produce children or will he be > > sent to school to study ? > > > > In same manner when it comes to creation of wealth, You have yourself > > accepted that the boy in question was studying, then from which part of > > the heavens can he pick out wealth and display it , even if his Venus > > Mahadasha was running and Venus Mahadasha signifies wealth ? > > > > You are not trying to understand. Yes Venus certainly promises wealth > > creations for him, but the boy was not in business or service, then how > > could he create wealth ? And okay from 1ge 18 he could earn or have love > > affairs or marry. But did you allow him to go out and have love affairs, > > and marry ? or work and earn money ? If not Then how how can we expect > > things to happen on its own ? > > > > And between age 18 -25 when the Venus Mahadasha was ending and in its > > last stages, I have already proved through the significators, that he > > could not have earnt good wealth..due to the antardasha Lords which deny > > the type of wealth which you are looking for. > > > > I will once again explain in short and for full and final..before I > > leave this thread. > > > > 1) The planet Venus does promise wealth to the native. > > 2) But the Venus Mahadasha comes to him from age 5 to 25. > > 3) At this age nobody works , unless he is born on the road, and you too > > have accepted that the boy was studying, so how can we expect wealth > > creations from him ? > > 4) Between age 18-25 when he was at the last stage of Venus Mahadasha, > > he was not running positive antardashas, and he was also studying, so > > how could you expect him to earn good wealth, have love affairs, marry > > and bring in money ? Did you or his parents ask him to work after age 18 > > ? If not then from where will money come ? > > > > You are not trying to understand the simple crux of the matter, and I am > > unable to make you understand. > > > > Lets leave it... > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> , SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > At the outset ,I’d like to give u thanks, for putting your > > valuable time to study this case. > > > > > > My pointwise reply is as under: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.// as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give > > money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full > > mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the > > longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// > > > > > > Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a > > planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole > > dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain > > happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for > > whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet > > the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change > > even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every > > week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or > > every week of the month give the same type of results ? > > ............ ....No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in > > line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same > > results everyday ? > > > > > > Reply: I cant believe that a person of caliber like bhaskar ji has > > interpretated this in this narrow manner. > > > > > > Here my point is that, if ve is surely going to provide wealth as > > pointed out by Bhaskar ji himself. > > > > > > So the logical interpretation would be to think that during its > > mahadasha which if a fairly long period of 20 years,ve should’ve > > given wealth during the whole period AS A WHOLE, & NOT EVERYDAY/EVERY > > HOUR/EVERY MIN. i.e.if one measure result of Ve mahadasha as a whole, > > one should be in a position to conclude that ve mahadasha was favourable > > to the native in terms of wealth which is not the case here. > > > > > > 2. //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing > > happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his > > studies & nothing substantial happened related with ve. If ve is > > considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a > > period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must > > have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to > > be the strongest.// > > > > > > Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 > > do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have > > happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We > > are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples > > of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 > > ...) > > > > > > Reply: â€Å"What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 do ? Earn > > wealth, and have love affairs and marry� > > > > > > Not a boy, but obviously yes , a teenager/young man of 20-25 is always > > expected to earn wealth ( if he is running Ve mahadasha & if ve is a > > strong sig of money as pointed by bhaskarji himself as its not totally > > abnormal for a young person to accumulate wealth in age group 20-25 > > atleast , if not earlier & have atleast love affairs( ve is strong sig > > of 5,6,3,11) if not marriage/love marriage. > > > > > > 3.At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 > > > > > > Look at what saturn signifies. > > > > > > Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 > > > > > > At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 > > > > > > Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 > > > > > > At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 > > > > > > Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 > > > > > > Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show > > great figures of wealth creations ??? > > > > > > Reply: during age of 5-17, we ourselves should not expect the native > > to earn wealth & during 18-25,dashas are not favourable to earn wealth > > as pointed by Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > Then what is the overall result of Ve mahadasha of 20 years if Ve is > > said to be a strong sig of Money in this case?? When its results are > > likely to be in full swing..??? > > > > > > As in words of Bhaskar ji himself: > > > > > > â€Å"But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money > > whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests > > the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to > > ownership of the 2nd house.. > > > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No > > planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets > > represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?� > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.// Plz note that IÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢m not in favour that Ve is an > > important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the > > time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but > > same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// > > > > > > In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in > > an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 > > could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it > > will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a > > teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his > > could have provided what you are looking for. > > > > > > Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to > > understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn > > millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... > > > > > > Reply: to the extent I understand KP, RP at the time of actual event > > must be in agreement with significators of that event based on > > TOB.Thus,if they dnt tally, TOB can be assumed to be incorrect. > > I’m not expecting the native to be a millionaire or not but if ve > > is a strong sig of money/wealth & he’s running through ve > > Mahadasha, atleast he can be assumed to have earned something more than > > a few thousand rupees, which he didn’t during its mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> [k_p_ system@grou ps.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> ] > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > Saturday, January 16, 2010 12:11 PM > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali ji, > > > > > > // as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give > > money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full > > mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the > > longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// > > > > > > Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a > > planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole > > dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain > > happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for > > whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet > > the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change > > even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every > > week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or > > every week of the month give the same type of results ? > > ............ ....No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in > > line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same > > results everyday ? > > > > > > // Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms > > of wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native.// > > > > > > This is again absurd expectations and not in Line. why should Venus > > always represent Love or marriage ? Its the natural karaka-Yes. But then > > its also karaka for jewels and automobiles etc.. Do You mean to say that > > ever body running Venus dasha will have Love affairs, marriage, wealth > > creations etc.. > > > > > > Apart from being natural karaka every planet has got its designated > > role to play which changes with every individual Horoscope. You must > > check what gives Love affairs in your Horoscope. What gives marriage in > > Your horoscope? here what means - Which planet and at what period. > > > > > > //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened > > to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & > > nothing substantial > > > > > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth > > & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which > > can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this > > the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest.// > > > > > > Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 > > do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have > > happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We > > are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples > > of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 > > ...) > > > > > > Here some commonsense is necessary and not too much astrology is > > required to know the why .. > > > > > > At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 > > > > > > Look at what saturn signifies. > > > > > > Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 > > > > > > At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 > > > > > > Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 > > > > > > At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 > > > > > > Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 > > > > > > Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show > > great figures of wealth creations ??? > > > > > > and does a boy in that age concentrate on his studies in India (Or > > elsewhere in the world) or do his parents push him in business or > > profession ? Then how can we expect him to earn money during this age > > even if we suppose that the last two antardasha could have given him > > some money ? > > > > > > // Plz note that IÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢m not in favour that Ve is an important > > planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of > > incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same > > when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// > > > > > > In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in > > an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 > > could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it > > will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a > > teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his > > could have provided what you are looking for. > > > > > > Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to > > understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn > > millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... > > > > > > //Here IÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢m not expecting that full period of 20 > > years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period > > of 20 years must have produced substantial result// > > > > > > Last 5 years of his venus mahadasha I have already proved with the > > figures what you could have expected the native to bring in as outputs > > had you put him in work, instead of studies. And before that we cannot > > expect a boy between age 5 to 17 to work and produce wealth for us . Or > > do we ? > > > > > > I dismiss the above case as expecting absudities and illogical results > > at an unsuitable age from the native in question. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> , SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your input to the case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give > > money. > > > > > > > > If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha > > means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest > > amongst the planets of 20 years), > > > > > > > > Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms of > > wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native. > > > > > > > > During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened > > to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & > > nothing substantial > > > > > > > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for > > wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years > > ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to > > the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here IÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢m not expecting that full period of 20 > > years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period > > of 20 years must have produced substantial result. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Plz note that IÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢m not in favour that Ve is an important > > planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of > > incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same > > when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> [k_p_ system@grou ps.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> ] > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > Friday, January 15, 2010 1:33 AM > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> > > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry. But what type of KP are we doing.. > > > > If any planet gives money or shows money or wealth creations like in > > this case Venus .. > > > > Ve 6,11 Sun 5,3 Moon 10,1,2 > > > > Venus is clearly to give wealth, but how can one expect venus to > > give money all of 20 years ? Would the antardasha Lords go to sleep till > > then ? > > > > > > > > But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever > > its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th > > and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership > > of the 2nd house.. > > > > > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No > > planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets > > represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ? > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> > > <k_p_ system% 40. com> , Naresh Valecha superstaar_n_ v@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali,ÃÆ'Æ'‚ I took up the details that were put up by > > you and rectified the birth time accordingly. You did not mention the > > time of birth which has been originally recorded before correcting > > it.ÃÆ'Æ'‚ Although RP's at the time of judgement give you a clear > > picture of birth lagna IÃÆ'Æ'‚ would like to know what time has > > been originally recorded before rectification was done by you. > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SONALI sonali.me.2009@ > > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> > > <k_p_ system% 40. com> > > > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 11:55 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nareshji, > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > If you wish, I can provide you date wise incidents in > > nativeÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'¢â€žÂ¢s life to cross check whether rectified > > TOB is correct or not. > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ Sonali > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou > > ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > > > Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:16 AM > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali, Sincerely IÃÆ'Æ'‚ could not understand the table > > andÃÆ'Æ'‚ as per your table and calculationsÃÆ'Æ'‚ I could not > > follow how Venus isÃÆ'Æ'‚ anÃÆ'Æ'‚ Important planet during its > > own Dasa.Venus if you see is in the sixth house and also itÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > is in 6-8 relation with respect to its own house, i.e if we count 2 as > > lagna Venus falls in the eighth, besides it is also the sixth and > > twelveth cuspal sublord, again it is in the star of Sun lord of 2 with > > Mars lord of 10th and 5. Venus is in the sub of moon afflicted by Saturn > > and Ketu too, Moon-ketu being together in the tenth. Note the strenght > > of Moon too its only 02-28 in Aries.ÃÆ'Æ'‚ Afflicted and weak moon > > in no way can give the native a good Venus Dasa.This is KP. > > > > > > > > > > Now coming to the traditional astrological part. Aries Sade-Sati > > (7 -1/2 yrs of Saturn) started from feb.1996-2003. When the 10th house > > is posited with moon and isÃÆ'Æ'‚ afflicted by malefics Sani and > > Ketu. During Sade-Sati 7-1/2yrs of Saturns transit the native has to > > struggle much through the houses signified by Saturn and Moon if they > > are not connected with favourably.ÃÆ'Æ'‚ How could Venus be a chief > > important planet, Venus in the Sub of afflicted Moon and under the sway > > of Saturn's transitÃÆ'Æ'‚ from 1996-2003. > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 8:20 PM > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Valechaji, > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > Thnx for your analysis. > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > But if your analysis is considered as correct , how ve is coming > > as most imp money yielding planet as evident from the table: > > > > > So the basic question remains unanswered. > > > > > Thus either TOB is uncorrect or at 20.51.48,ve must come as most > > imp money yielding planet so as to tally with actual incidents. > > > > > & if same is most imp money yielding planet, why it failed to > > yield the same during its full mahadasha of 20 yrs itself. > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ SIGN LRD > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ STR LRD > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ SUB > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ TOTAL > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ % > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ RANK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 7.05 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 11.14 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 4 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ -ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 6 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 20.03 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 28.15 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 48.18 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 16 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 31.76 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 9.38 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 43.19 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 14 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 14.85 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 2.60 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 15.64 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 33.09 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 11 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 23.01 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 18.45 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 22.45 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 63.91 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 21 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > 8.30 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 0.56 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 8.86 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 3 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 11.73 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 39.56 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 51.29 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 17 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 3.63 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 17.70 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 21.33 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 7 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 300.00 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ Sonali > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou > > ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > > > Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:56 PM > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali, the time rectified isÃÆ'Æ'‚ nearly correct except > > as I found the SSL Sun instead of Venus giving me a time as 20.52.30. > > ruling planets taken on 12/01/2010; 07-11am; Ambernath. The rectified > > lagna as per my verification should be Moon-Guru-Rahu- Sun. The main > > question is what is the important planet.? if we analyse Venus dasa on > > the whole Venus being lord of 4 and 11, posited in the Sixth with > > Mercury the lord of 3,12 it wouldÃÆ'Æ'‚ not give good results being > > in the sixth. TheÃÆ'Æ'‚ period from 1995 end(Saturn bhukti) would > > mark the start of hurdles. In short during Venus Dasa the native had to > > struggle. Sun-Sun, Sun-Moon, Sun Mars could not yield much.Sun dasa > > promises good resultsÃÆ'Æ'‚ partiallyÃÆ'Æ'‚ during > > Sun-Rahu & Jupiter bhukti only. Sun-Sat dasa would not prove beneficial, > > Sun-Ketu, Sun-VenÃÆ'Æ'‚ wouldÃÆ'Æ'‚ be fair enough,ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > Now the question arises why the emphasis on Sun Dasa -Rahu & Jupiter > > Bhukti gave good results because in the year 2004 Jupiter was transiting > > in > > > > > Leo second house of the native and all the stars in Leo gave > > sucess with Education, career and status. In Short Dasa-Bhukti- Antara > > lordsÃÆ'Æ'‚ prove fruitful during their transits in favourable > > houses viz. 1,2,3,6,10,11. > > > > > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 11/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Monday, 11 January, 2010, 9:24 PM > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TWji, > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > Note: plz read dob as 2-12-1976 > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > Then what according to you, should be the correct TOB ( for the > > same horo lajmiji has corrected TOB as 20.20) > > > > > But , based on this TOB, 5th sub is Sa & as per KP,if sub of 5th > > is sig of 8/12 houses,native will have losses from Stock market. > > > > > While actually, native is having profit from stock market although > > not very substantial or in the manner expected by native. > > > > > Thus, tob of 20.20 does not hold true based on income from stock > > market. > > > > > Can you/anyone else correct above tob, given the fact that > > calendar year 2004 was the best year so far in > > nativeÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'¢â€žÂ¢s life(from education,career, financial > > point of view) > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ Sonali > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou > > ps.com] On Behalf Of TW > > > > > Monday, January 11, 2010 7:14 PM > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > 1. Dob: 02 dec 176? 1976? > > > > > If 1976 and consequently Asc Cn 02:49:05 (KPNA 23:26:41), there is > > no way to get money in Sun Dasa*, and so the rectified TOB is not > > tallied with live event. > > > > > *Su(5,3); in star and sub Me(5,4-12). > > > > > 2. There is also no way to calculate such figures for planet. > > > > > In KP, significators are ranked by order of A,B,C,D & E decided by > > sub signification, taking into account of whether having no planet in > > their stars or own star or own sub, RPS (if applied) on case by case > > basis etc. > > > > > Regards, > > > > > TW > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All Respected Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In case of a person with birth details as under: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dob: 02 dec 176 > > > > > > > > > > > > Tob 20.51.48( as corrected with RP method) > > > > > > > > > > > > Place Shujalpur(M. P.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Sex Male > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Various Most imp money incidents are observed : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This tables shows how much each of the planet has contributed as > > > > > > Sign/str/sub lord as RP (Lagn & mon position) at the most close > > time of > > > > > > incident: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > > > > > > > SIGN LRD > > > > > > > > > > > > STR LRD > > > > > > > > > > > > SUB > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > > > > > % > > > > > > > > > > > > RANK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > > > 7.05 > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.14 > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > > > > > > > > 20.03 > > > > > > > > > > > > 28.15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 48.18 > > > > > > > > > > > > 16 > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > > > > > > > > 31.76 > > > > > > > > > > > > 9.38 > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > > > 43.19 > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.85 > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.60 > > > > > > > > > > > > 15.64 > > > > > > > > > > > > 33.09 > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 > > > > > > > > > > > > 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > > > > > > > 23.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > 18.45 > > > > > > > > > > > > 22.45 > > > > > > > > > > > > 63.91 > > > > > > > > > > > > 21 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > > > > > > > 8.30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0.56 > > > > > > > > > > > > 8.86 > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.73 > > > > > > > > > > > > 39.56 > > > > > > > > > > > > 51.29 > > > > > > > > > > > > 17 > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.63 > > > > > > > > > > > > 17.70 > > > > > > > > > > > > 21.33 > > > > > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > 300.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From above, it appears that, ve is the most imp money giving > > planet.But > > > > > > above money incidents occurred after passing of Full mahadasha > > of ve of 20 > > > > > > years. > > > > > > > > > > > > I.e.above incidents occurred during Su mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > If ve is supposed to be the most imp money giving planet(as > > appeared from > > > > > > above table), why it failed to yield any such results during its > > Mahadasha > > > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Dear Shri Senthil ji, Thank you for the explanations. I agree to whatever you mention Sir, and am able to understand better now. with regards, Bhaskar. , Senthil <athi_ram wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, >  > Definitely we have to use our commonsense/logic along with house significators. I have not told anywhere that the native will gain wealth. Here my point is that the houses signified by the DBA are operating as per their respective house karaka to give some effect, that is it. >  > For example, a married working person having age say 30-35 range who’s ascendant is in LIBRA(assume that the other cusps are occupied in each one SIGN- that is no two consecutive cups in same SIGN) running DBA signifying 2,5,9,10,11 what we can tell in General? >  > 1)     He/she may have child birth (2,5,11) > 2)     He/she may have good earning through job (2,10,11) > 3)     He/she may have CHANGE of job (5,9,2,10,11) > 4)     He/she may have transfer of job (9,10,11) > 5)     He/she may perform manthra or worship god etc (5,9,11) > 6)     Etc, etc.. >  > The above are some possible events that may happen (for explanation purpose I have not considered any associated house here). Do you think that the above only can happen? Have we ever thought about what will happen to his/her mother? >  > There is no 4th house is operating in the above signifactor. However if we study the above significator with respect 4th house 5(2 to 4),10(7 to 4) is maraka house for his/her mother ,10 karama for the native, 2 house is badaka house for his/her mother (4th house will fall in MAKARA sign which is MOVABLE hence it is 11th to 4th house †" badaka). 9th is 6th to 4th house so his/her mother may fall in sick, 11th is 8th to 4th house some life threatening danger etc and thus finally a death may result(who’s age may be in the range of 55 to 60+). >  > This is what I am trying to say. >  > I accept that the quizzes are not essentially or mandatorily a parameter or scale of judging whether astrological rules are working or not? But always gives way forward. Now ADITH has put the quiz17. A  girl who got married at the age of 16+ when she delivered her first baby?. Please attend the quiz and apply your logic/astrology and let us see the results. Kindly take it as the opportunity to fine-tune our astrology knowledge and don’t mistake me. Astrology is a big ocean and learning that is the continuous process. >  > GOOD LUCK!!! >  > D.Senthil > > --- On Thu, 1/21/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > Thursday, January 21, 2010, 12:50 AM > > >  > > > > Dear Senthil ji, > > // Similarly any planet running the dasa(in your case say VE dasa signifies say 2,6,10, 11) will at least give the results of any one of the karaka/house matter represented by the said significator- house. // > > We are sending wrong signals to aspirants looking for wealth at wrong ages of natives under question. Wea re also trying to remove the " Karma " factor by making such suggestions. One cannot just have the promises or effects in full without putting in requisite efforts (Chesthas). > > The elders have always taught us that first do " Yatna " ....subsequen tly " Prayatna " .. ..and then tadantar (eventually) , " Devyatna " . That is belief in destiny, Horoscopes, Astrology or good fortunes and expectations from GOD. So I will never suggest to Sonali that just because Venus Mahadasha signifies wealth, then it must come somehow to him at an most inappropriate age of 5 when his Mahadasha begun, when any boy at that age is not working but studying. > > Do you in other words mean to say that because a planet is running 5, 11 significations at age 60 to a lady, then we must predict her, that " You will ahve children now Madam " . 5, 11 could mean that her money is being invested in Stock markets and she is gaining from there. Plus it could mean a host of other matters too. > 2 and 7 could give marriage to a native in his youth, but would prove to be a maraka at age 75. 4 and 9 could give studies to a boy of 12 but to a young man of age 24 who is doing his higher studies could probably push him towards Phd and to a man of age 50 could make him go for religious teerth yatras or interest in studying religious scriptures. One needs to use commonsense while predicting results in astrology. Because 5 and 11 is running to a unmarried lady we cannot predict that " You will have a child now " ...instead we could possibly predict that she " Could have a Love marriage " , and that too only if she is asking us for such inputs and not otherwise... . > > In same manner, when this boy is running 2,6,10, 11, it could also means that he could have at some point of his Venus Dasha have received a golden or silver necklace from his family elders ( 2nd house of ktumba, and 11th of gains). He could have also done well in his studies or won in some local games or competetions. He could have even received a thousand rupees ebvelope with love from one of his Uncles or Grandfather. . > > But I would not agree that the boy must for definite EARN WEALTH during the Venus Mahadsha at an inappropriate age of 5 years when the Venus Mahadasha started in his Life and neither make such statements that " ......... I personally feel that there is something missing in our approach or RULEs may be missing to find the exact events. Without understating it in full about any matter the end result will go wrong only........ . " > > And quizzes are not essentialy or mandatorily a parameter or scale of judging whether astrological rules are working or not, by the way. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > @gro ups.com, Senthil <athi_ram@ .> wrote: > > > > Dear Sonali, > >  > > In the recent quiz conduct by Mr.ADITH regarding the query on when she got married? All the participants were FAILED in the quiz except one Person who fixed the Dasa at her age of 34+. Most of the participants might have used the logic of any female may marry at the age of 24 to 28 worst may be 32(say for delayed marriage etc). When we look for DBA who is the significator for given marriage in this period range may be selected in general with transit. However it is not happened that way. Similarly some early marriages say at the age of 16+ (this was mentioned by ADITH) also happened. I personally feel that there is something missing in our approach or RULEs may be missing to find the exact events. Without understating it in full about any matter the end result will go wrong only. This I have experienced while doing research on WILL I GET DRIVING LICENCE?. Once you know what is control what? then everything becomes simple. > >  > > A boy or Girl having age say 26+ running with dasa signigificator of 2,7,11 who’s lagna in SARA(MOVABLE) sign need not always said to be get Marry instead he/she may die also as it is maraka/badaka houses too. Here the logic will not help, only the CUSP/DBA significators , Transit & study of other associated houses can help to find the event. > >  > > Similarly any planet running the dasa(in your case say VE dasa signifies say 2,6,10, 11) will at least give the results of any one of the karaka/house matter represented by the said significator- house. > >  > > I am unable to help much on the subject query & sorry for the same. > >  > > GOOD LUCK!! > >  > > D.Senthil > > > > --- On Tue, 1/19/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > @gro ups.com > > Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 11:21 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali ji , > > What type of perverted expectations are we keeping from a lad who is studying just because his Dasha Lord in his childhood period is signifying wealth ? > > And what type of baseless illogical examples are you presenting to just justify your points, I am really fazed out by now.. > > I have told you in my previous mail too, that if a boy is running a dasha whose Lord signifies the 5th house, then do you pxect the boy if he is under age 15, to go out and make babies ? > > Or if a man in age of 80 is running a dasha of a planet which signifies marriage, then do you think that he will go out and get married ? > > We need some commonsense on astrology, and astrology is not to be used in a foolish manner in the way suggested. > > If a planet signifies marriage and it comes as a dasha ord at age 12 to a child, do you expect the planet to draw him to his marriage somehow ? HaHa. What type of astrology are you into ? from where have you learnt such type of knowledge to associate planets with events at illogical ages ??? > > Bhaskar. > >  > > -- In @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Absolutely great reason.. > > > > > > > > > > > > That person could’nt able to accumulate wealth even during the best period of tht planet as he was â€Å " busy in his studies�… > > > > > > > > > > > > Based on this, if death time/period of a person comes, tht person will not die , provided he/she is â€Å " busy�. & he/she can be â€Å " busy� in anything like,studies, business or anything else. > > > > > > Only thing required is that he/she should be busy. > > > > > > Then whats the power of any planet if it cant make people work according to it. > > > > > > Had the planet is really sig of wealth & in its best period( madadasha).. it should drawn the native anyhow into acculumulating wealth,either through completion of studies at an earlier age or anyhow. > > > > > > Atleast think of a reason which no one deny at first place. > > > > > > > > > > > > Another example is tht a person with exact horo of Sachin Tendulkar …has to be Tendulkar himself.. & no body else…if he’s anyone else.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar ji will tell..that as he was â€Å " busy in studies� ..he could’nt become Tendulkar. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok..just simple answer a simple question raised by Bhaskar ji himself: > > > > > > > > > > > > â€Å " But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house.. > > > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?� > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 9:06 PM > > > @gro ups.com > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali ji, > > > > > > I am sory but I have not yet been able to send my point across. > > > > > > If a native has a planet Mars who is a significator of a child in his > > > Horoscope, then how would you expect this native to give birth to > > > children if the Mars Mahadasha comes to him before age 15 ? Will he be > > > married before age 15 by his parents to produce children or will he be > > > sent to school to study ? > > > > > > In same manner when it comes to creation of wealth, You have yourself > > > accepted that the boy in question was studying, then from which part of > > > the heavens can he pick out wealth and display it , even if his Venus > > > Mahadasha was running and Venus Mahadasha signifies wealth ? > > > > > > You are not trying to understand. Yes Venus certainly promises wealth > > > creations for him, but the boy was not in business or service, then how > > > could he create wealth ? And okay from 1ge 18 he could earn or have love > > > affairs or marry. But did you allow him to go out and have love affairs, > > > and marry ? or work and earn money ? If not Then how how can we expect > > > things to happen on its own ? > > > > > > And between age 18 -25 when the Venus Mahadasha was ending and in its > > > last stages, I have already proved through the significators, that he > > > could not have earnt good wealth..due to the antardasha Lords which deny > > > the type of wealth which you are looking for. > > > > > > I will once again explain in short and for full and final..before I > > > leave this thread. > > > > > > 1) The planet Venus does promise wealth to the native. > > > 2) But the Venus Mahadasha comes to him from age 5 to 25. > > > 3) At this age nobody works , unless he is born on the road, and you too > > > have accepted that the boy was studying, so how can we expect wealth > > > creations from him ? > > > 4) Between age 18-25 when he was at the last stage of Venus Mahadasha, > > > he was not running positive antardashas, and he was also studying, so > > > how could you expect him to earn good wealth, have love affairs, marry > > > and bring in money ? Did you or his parents ask him to work after age 18 > > > ? If not then from where will money come ? > > > > > > You are not trying to understand the simple crux of the matter, and I am > > > unable to make you understand. > > > > > > Lets leave it... > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> , SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > At the outset ,IÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢d like to give u thanks, for putting your > > > valuable time to study this case. > > > > > > > > My pointwise reply is as under: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.// as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give > > > money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full > > > mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the > > > longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// > > > > > > > > Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a > > > planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole > > > dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain > > > happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for > > > whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet > > > the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change > > > even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every > > > week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or > > > every week of the month give the same type of results ? > > > ............ ....No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in > > > line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same > > > results everyday ? > > > > > > > > Reply: I cant believe that a person of caliber like bhaskar ji has > > > interpretated this in this narrow manner. > > > > > > > > Here my point is that, if ve is surely going to provide wealth as > > > pointed out by Bhaskar ji himself. > > > > > > > > So the logical interpretation would be to think that during its > > > mahadasha which if a fairly long period of 20 years,ve shouldÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢ve > > > given wealth during the whole period AS A WHOLE, & NOT EVERYDAY/EVERY > > > HOUR/EVERY MIN. i.e.if one measure result of Ve mahadasha as a whole, > > > one should be in a position to conclude that ve mahadasha was favourable > > > to the native in terms of wealth which is not the case here. > > > > > > > > 2. //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing > > > happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his > > > studies & nothing substantial happened related with ve. If ve is > > > considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a > > > period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must > > > have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to > > > be the strongest.// > > > > > > > > Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 > > > do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have > > > happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We > > > are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples > > > of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 > > > ...) > > > > > > > > Reply: ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å " What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 do ? Earn > > > wealth, and have love affairs and marryÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â� > > > > > > > > Not a boy, but obviously yes , a teenager/young man of 20-25 is always > > > expected to earn wealth ( if he is running Ve mahadasha & if ve is a > > > strong sig of money as pointed by bhaskarji himself as its not totally > > > abnormal for a young person to accumulate wealth in age group 20-25 > > > atleast , if not earlier & have atleast love affairs( ve is strong sig > > > of 5,6,3,11) if not marriage/love marriage. > > > > > > > > 3.At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 > > > > > > > > Look at what saturn signifies. > > > > > > > > Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 > > > > > > > > At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 > > > > > > > > Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 > > > > > > > > At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 > > > > > > > > Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 > > > > > > > > Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show > > > great figures of wealth creations ??? > > > > > > > > Reply: during age of 5-17, we ourselves should not expect the native > > > to earn wealth & during 18-25,dashas are not favourable to earn wealth > > > as pointed by Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > Then what is the overall result of Ve mahadasha of 20 years if Ve is > > > said to be a strong sig of Money in this case?? When its results are > > > likely to be in full swing..??? > > > > > > > > As in words of Bhaskar ji himself: > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å " But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money > > > whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests > > > the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to > > > ownership of the 2nd house.. > > > > > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No > > > planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets > > > represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â� > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.// Plz note that IÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'¢â€žÂÂÂ\ ¢m not in favour that Ve is an > > > important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the > > > time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but > > > same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// > > > > > > > > In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in > > > an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 > > > could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it > > > will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a > > > teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his > > > could have provided what you are looking for. > > > > > > > > Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to > > > understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn > > > millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... > > > > > > > > Reply: to the extent I understand KP, RP at the time of actual event > > > must be in agreement with significators of that event based on > > > TOB.Thus,if they dnt tally, TOB can be assumed to be incorrect. > > > IÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢m not expecting the native to be a millionaire or not but if ve > > > is a strong sig of money/wealth & heÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢s running through ve > > > Mahadasha, atleast he can be assumed to have earned something more than > > > a few thousand rupees, which he didnÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢t during its mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> [k_p_ system@grou ps.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> ] > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > Saturday, January 16, 2010 12:11 PM > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> > > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali ji, > > > > > > > > // as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give > > > money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full > > > mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the > > > longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// > > > > > > > > Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a > > > planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole > > > dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain > > > happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for > > > whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet > > > the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change > > > even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every > > > week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or > > > every week of the month give the same type of results ? > > > ............ ....No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in > > > line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same > > > results everyday ? > > > > > > > > // Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms > > > of wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native.// > > > > > > > > This is again absurd expectations and not in Line. why should Venus > > > always represent Love or marriage ? Its the natural karaka-Yes. But then > > > its also karaka for jewels and automobiles etc.. Do You mean to say that > > > ever body running Venus dasha will have Love affairs, marriage, wealth > > > creations etc.. > > > > > > > > Apart from being natural karaka every planet has got its designated > > > role to play which changes with every individual Horoscope. You must > > > check what gives Love affairs in your Horoscope. What gives marriage in > > > Your horoscope? here what means - Which planet and at what period. > > > > > > > > //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened > > > to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & > > > nothing substantial > > > > > > > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth > > > & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which > > > can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this > > > the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest.// > > > > > > > > Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 > > > do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have > > > happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We > > > are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples > > > of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 > > > ...) > > > > > > > > Here some commonsense is necessary and not too much astrology is > > > required to know the why .. > > > > > > > > At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 > > > > > > > > Look at what saturn signifies. > > > > > > > > Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 > > > > > > > > At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 > > > > > > > > Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 > > > > > > > > At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 > > > > > > > > Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 > > > > > > > > Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show > > > great figures of wealth creations ??? > > > > > > > > and does a boy in that age concentrate on his studies in India (Or > > > elsewhere in the world) or do his parents push him in business or > > > profession ? Then how can we expect him to earn money during this age > > > even if we suppose that the last two antardasha could have given him > > > some money ? > > > > > > > > // Plz note that IÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'¢â€žÂÂÂ\ ¢m not in favour that Ve is an important > > > planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of > > > incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same > > > when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// > > > > > > > > In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in > > > an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 > > > could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it > > > will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a > > > teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his > > > could have provided what you are looking for. > > > > > > > > Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to > > > understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn > > > millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... > > > > > > > > //Here IÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'¢â€žÂÂÂ\ ¢m not expecting that full period of 20 > > > years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period > > > of 20 years must have produced substantial result// > > > > > > > > Last 5 years of his venus mahadasha I have already proved with the > > > figures what you could have expected the native to bring in as outputs > > > had you put him in work, instead of studies. And before that we cannot > > > expect a boy between age 5 to 17 to work and produce wealth for us . Or > > > do we ? > > > > > > > > I dismiss the above case as expecting absudities and illogical results > > > at an unsuitable age from the native in question. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> , SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your input to the case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give > > > money. > > > > > > > > > > If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha > > > means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest > > > amongst the planets of 20 years), > > > > > > > > > > Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms of > > > wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native. > > > > > > > > > > During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened > > > to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & > > > nothing substantial > > > > > > > > > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for > > > wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years > > > ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to > > > the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here IÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'¢â€žÂÂÂ\ ¢m not expecting that full period of 20 > > > years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period > > > of 20 years must have produced substantial result. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Plz note that IÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'¢â€žÂÂÂ\ ¢m not in favour that Ve is an important > > > planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of > > > incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same > > > when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> [k_p_ system@grou ps.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> ] > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > Friday, January 15, 2010 1:33 AM > > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> > > > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry. But what type of KP are we doing.. > > > > > If any planet gives money or shows money or wealth creations like in > > > this case Venus .. > > > > > Ve 6,11 Sun 5,3 Moon 10,1,2 > > > > > Venus is clearly to give wealth, but how can one expect venus to > > > give money all of 20 years ? Would the antardasha Lords go to sleep till > > > then ? > > > > > > > > > > But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever > > > its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th > > > and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership > > > of the 2nd house.. > > > > > > > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No > > > planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets > > > represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > > > > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ? > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> > > > <k_p_ system% 40. com> , Naresh Valecha superstaar_n_ v@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali,ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ I took up the details that were put up by > > > you and rectified the birth time accordingly. You did not mention the > > > time of birth which has been originally recorded before correcting > > > it.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ Although RP's at the time of judgement give you a clear > > > picture of birth lagna IÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ would like to know what time has > > > been originally recorded before rectification was done by you. > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SONALI sonali.me.2009@ > > > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> > > > <k_p_ system% 40. com> > > > > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 11:55 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nareshji, > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > If you wish, I can provide you date wise incidents in > > > nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ã\ …¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¾ÃÆ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢s life to cross check whether rectified > > > TOB is correct or not. > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ Sonali > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou > > > ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > > > > Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:16 AM > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali, Sincerely IÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ could not understand the table > > > andÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ as per your table and calculationsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ I could not > > > follow how Venus isÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ anÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ Important planet during its > > > own Dasa.Venus if you see is in the sixth house and also itÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > is in 6-8 relation with respect to its own house, i.e if we count 2 as > > > lagna Venus falls in the eighth, besides it is also the sixth and > > > twelveth cuspal sublord, again it is in the star of Sun lord of 2 with > > > Mars lord of 10th and 5. Venus is in the sub of moon afflicted by Saturn > > > and Ketu too, Moon-ketu being together in the tenth. Note the strenght > > > of Moon too its only 02-28 in Aries.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ Afflicted and weak moon > > > in no way can give the native a good Venus Dasa.This is KP. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now coming to the traditional astrological part. Aries Sade-Sati > > > (7 -1/2 yrs of Saturn) started from feb.1996-2003. When the 10th house > > > is posited with moon and isÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ afflicted by malefics Sani and > > > Ketu. During Sade-Sati 7-1/2yrs of Saturns transit the native has to > > > struggle much through the houses signified by Saturn and Moon if they > > > are not connected with favourably.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ How could Venus be a chief > > > important planet, Venus in the Sub of afflicted Moon and under the sway > > > of Saturn's transitÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ from 1996-2003. > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 8:20 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Valechaji, > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > Thnx for your analysis. > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > But if your analysis is considered as correct , how ve is coming > > > 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ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali, the time rectified isÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ nearly correct except > > > as I found the SSL Sun instead of Venus giving me a time as 20.52.30. > > > ruling planets taken on 12/01/2010; 07-11am; Ambernath. The rectified > > > lagna as per my verification should be Moon-Guru-Rahu- Sun. The main > > > question is what is the important planet.? if we analyse Venus dasa on > > > the whole Venus being lord of 4 and 11, posited in the Sixth with > > > Mercury the lord of 3,12 it wouldÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ not give good results being > > > in the sixth. TheÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ period from 1995 end(Saturn bhukti) would > > > mark the start of hurdles. In short during Venus Dasa the native had to > > > struggle. Sun-Sun, Sun-Moon, Sun Mars could not yield much.Sun dasa > > > promises good resultsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ partiallyÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ during > > > Sun-Rahu & Jupiter bhukti only. Sun-Sat dasa would not prove beneficial, > > > Sun-Ketu, Sun-VenÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ wouldÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ be fair enough,ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > Now the question arises why the emphasis on Sun Dasa -Rahu & Jupiter > > > Bhukti gave good results because in the year 2004 Jupiter was transiting > > > in > > > > > > Leo second house of the native and all the stars in Leo gave > > > sucess with Education, career and status. In Short Dasa-Bhukti- Antara > > > lordsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ prove fruitful during their transits in favourable > > > houses viz. 1,2,3,6,10,11. > > > > > > > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 11/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > Monday, 11 January, 2010, 9:24 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TWji, > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > Note: plz read dob as 2-12-1976 > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > Then what according to you, should be the correct TOB ( for the > > > same horo lajmiji has corrected TOB as 20.20) > > > > > > But , based on this TOB, 5th sub is Sa & as per KP,if sub of 5th > > > is sig of 8/12 houses,native will have losses from Stock market. > > > > > > While actually, native is having profit from stock market although > > > not very substantial or in the manner expected by native. > > > > > > Thus, tob of 20.20 does not hold true based on income from stock > > > market. > > > > > > Can you/anyone else correct above tob, given the fact that > > > calendar year 2004 was the best year so far in > > > nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ã\ …¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¾ÃÆ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢s life(from education,career, financial > > > point of view) > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ Sonali > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou > > > ps.com] On Behalf Of TW > > > > > > Monday, January 11, 2010 7:14 PM > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > 1. Dob: 02 dec 176? 1976? > > > > > > If 1976 and consequently Asc Cn 02:49:05 (KPNA 23:26:41), there is > > > no way to get money in Sun Dasa*, and so the rectified TOB is not > > > tallied with live event. > > > > > > *Su(5,3); in star and sub Me(5,4-12). > > > > > > 2. There is also no way to calculate such figures for planet. > > > > > > In KP, significators are ranked by order of A,B,C,D & E decided by > > > sub signification, taking into account of whether having no planet in > > > their stars or own star or own sub, RPS (if applied) on case by case > > > basis etc. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > TW > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All Respected Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In case of a person with birth details as under: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dob: 02 dec 176 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tob 20.51.48( as corrected with RP method) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Place Shujalpur(M. P.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sex Male > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Various Most imp money incidents are observed : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This tables shows how much each of the planet has contributed as > > > > > > > Sign/str/sub lord as RP (Lagn & mon position) at the most close > > > time of > > > > > > > incident: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SIGN LRD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > STR LRD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SUB > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > % > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RANK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7.05 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.14 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 20.03 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 28.15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 48.18 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 16 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 31.76 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9.38 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 43.19 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.85 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.60 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15.64 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 33.09 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 23.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18.45 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 22.45 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 63.91 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 21 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8.30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0.56 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8.86 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.73 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 39.56 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 51.29 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 17 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.63 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 17.70 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 21.33 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 300.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From above, it appears that, ve is the most imp money giving > > > planet.But > > > > > > > above money incidents occurred after passing of Full mahadasha > > > of ve of 20 > > > > > > > years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I.e.above incidents occurred during Su mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If ve is supposed to be the most imp money giving planet(as > > > appeared from > > > > > > > above table), why it failed to yield any such results during its > > > Mahadasha > > > > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Dear Bhaskar, You are welcome. I appreciate for your understanding. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil--- On Fri, 1/22/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 3:59 AM Dear Shri Senthil ji,Thank you for the explanations.I agree to whatever you mention Sir, and am able to understand better now.with regards,Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, Senthil <athi_ram@.. .> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar,>  > Definitely we have to use our commonsense/ logic along with house significators. I have not told anywhere that the native will gain wealth. Here my point is that the houses signified by the DBA are operating as per their respective house karaka to give some effect, that is it.>  > For example, a married working person having age say 30-35 range who’s ascendant is in LIBRA(assume that the other cusps are occupied in each one SIGN- that is no two consecutive cups in same SIGN) running DBA signifying 2,5,9,10,11 what we can tell in General? >  > 1)     He/she may have child birth (2,5,11)> 2)     He/she may have good earning through job (2,10,11)> 3)     He/she may have CHANGE of job (5,9,2,10,11)> 4)     He/she may have transfer of job (9,10,11)> 5)     He/she may perform manthra or worship god etc (5,9,11)> 6)     Etc, etc..>  > The above are some possible events that may happen (for explanation purpose I have not considered any associated house here). Do you think that the above only can happen? Have we ever thought about what will happen to his/her mother?>  > There is no 4th house is operating in the above signifactor. However if we study the above significator with respect 4th house 5(2 to 4),10(7 to 4) is maraka house for his/her mother ,10 karama for the native, 2 house is badaka house for his/her mother (4th house will fall in MAKARA sign which is MOVABLE hence it is 11th to 4th house â€"badaka). 9th is 6th to 4th house so his/her mother may fall in sick, 11th is 8th to 4th house some life threatening danger etc and thus finally a death may result(who’s age may be in the range of 55 to 60+).>  > This is what I am trying to say.>  > I accept that the quizzes are not essentially or mandatorily a parameter or scale of judging whether astrological rules are working or not? But always gives way forward. Now ADITH has put the quiz17. A  girl who got married at the age of 16+ when she delivered her first baby?. Please attend the quiz and apply your logic/astrology and let us see the results. Kindly take it as the opportunity to fine-tune our astrology knowledge and don’t mistake me. Astrology is a big ocean and learning that is the continuous process. >  > GOOD LUCK!!!>  > D.Senthil> > --- On Thu, 1/21/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET> @gro ups.com> Thursday, January 21, 2010, 12:50 AM> > >  > > > > Dear Senthil ji,> > // Similarly any planet running the dasa(in your case say VE dasa signifies say 2,6,10, 11) will at least give the results of any one of the karaka/house matter represented by the said significator- house. //> > We are sending wrong signals to aspirants looking for wealth at wrong ages of natives under question. Wea re also trying to remove the "Karma" factor by making such suggestions. One cannot just have the promises or effects in full without putting in requisite efforts (Chesthas).> > The elders have always taught us that first do " Yatna"....subsequen tly "Prayatna".. ..and then tadantar (eventually) , "Devyatna". That is belief in destiny, Horoscopes, Astrology or good fortunes and expectations from GOD. So I will never suggest to Sonali that just because Venus Mahadasha signifies wealth, then it must come somehow to him at an most inappropriate age of 5 when his Mahadasha begun, when any boy at that age is not working but studying.> > Do you in other words mean to say that because a planet is running 5, 11 significations at age 60 to a lady, then we must predict her, that "You will ahve children now Madam". 5, 11 could mean that her money is being invested in Stock markets and she is gaining from there. Plus it could mean a host of other matters too.> 2 and 7 could give marriage to a native in his youth, but would prove to be a maraka at age 75. 4 and 9 could give studies to a boy of 12 but to a young man of age 24 who is doing his higher studies could probably push him towards Phd and to a man of age 50 could make him go for religious teerth yatras or interest in studying religious scriptures. One needs to use commonsense while predicting results in astrology. Because 5 and 11 is running to a unmarried lady we cannot predict that "You will have a child now"...instead we could possibly predict that she "Could have a Love marriage" , and that too only if she is asking us for such inputs and not otherwise... .> > In same manner, when this boy is running 2,6,10, 11, it could also means that he could have at some point of his Venus Dasha have received a golden or silver necklace from his family elders ( 2nd house of ktumba, and 11th of gains). He could have also done well in his studies or won in some local games or competetions. He could have even received a thousand rupees ebvelope with love from one of his Uncles or Grandfather. .> > But I would not agree that the boy must for definite EARN WEALTH during the Venus Mahadsha at an inappropriate age of 5 years when the Venus Mahadasha started in his Life and neither make such statements that "......... I personally feel that there is something missing in our approach or RULEs may be missing to find the exact events. Without understating it in full about any matter the end result will go wrong only........ ." > > And quizzes are not essentialy or mandatorily a parameter or scale of judging whether astrological rules are working or not, by the way. > > regards,> Bhaskar.> > > @gro ups.com, Senthil <athi_ram@ .> wrote:> >> > Dear Sonali,> >  > > In the recent quiz conduct by Mr.ADITH regarding the query on when she got married? All the participants were FAILED in the quiz except one Person who fixed the Dasa at her age of 34+. Most of the participants might have used the logic of any female may marry at the age of 24 to 28 worst may be 32(say for delayed marriage etc). When we look for DBA who is the significator for given marriage in this period range may be selected in general with transit. However it is not happened that way. Similarly some early marriages say at the age of 16+ (this was mentioned by ADITH) also happened. I personally feel that there is something missing in our approach or RULEs may be missing to find the exact events. Without understating it in full about any matter the end result will go wrong only. This I have experienced while doing research on WILL I GET DRIVING LICENCE?. Once you know what is control what? then everything becomes simple.> >  > > A boy or Girl having age say 26+ running with dasa signigificator of 2,7,11 who’s lagna in SARA(MOVABLE) sign need not always said to be get Marry instead he/she may die also as it is maraka/badaka houses too. Here the logic will not help, only the CUSP/DBA significators , Transit & study of other associated houses can help to find the event.> >  > > Similarly any planet running the dasa(in your case say VE dasa signifies say 2,6,10, 11) will at least give the results of any one of the karaka/house matter represented by the said significator- house.> >  > > I am unable to help much on the subject query & sorry for the same.> >  > > GOOD LUCK!!> >  > > D.Senthil> > > > --- On Tue, 1/19/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET> > @gro ups.com> > Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 11:21 AM> > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali ji ,> > What type of perverted expectations are we keeping from a lad who is studying just because his Dasha Lord in his childhood period is signifying wealth ?> > And what type of baseless illogical examples are you presenting to just justify your points, I am really fazed out by now..> > I have told you in my previous mail too, that if a boy is running a dasha whose Lord signifies the 5th house, then do you pxect the boy if he is under age 15, to go out and make babies ?> > Or if a man in age of 80 is running a dasha of a planet which signifies marriage, then do you think that he will go out and get married ?> > We need some commonsense on astrology, and astrology is not to be used in a foolish manner in the way suggested.> > If a planet signifies marriage and it comes as a dasha ord at age 12 to a child, do you expect the planet to draw him to his marriage somehow ? HaHa. What type of astrology are you into ? from where have you learnt such type of knowledge to associate planets with events at illogical ages ???> > Bhaskar. > >  > > -- In @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Absolutely great reason.. > > > > > > > > > > > > That person could’nt able to accumulate wealth even during the best period of tht planet as he was â€Å"busy in his studies�… > > > > > > > > > > > > Based on this, if death time/period of a person comes, tht person will not die , provided he/she is â€Å"busy�. & he/she can be â€Å"busy� in anything like,studies, business or anything else. > > > > > > Only thing required is that he/she should be busy. > > > > > > Then whats the power of any planet if it cant make people work according to it. > > > > > > Had the planet is really sig of wealth & in its best period( madadasha).. it should drawn the native anyhow into acculumulating wealth,either through completion of studies at an earlier age or anyhow. > > > > > > Atleast think of a reason which no one deny at first place. > > > > > > > > > > > > Another example is tht a person with exact horo of Sachin Tendulkar …has to be Tendulkar himself.. & no body else…if he’s anyone else.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar ji will tell..that as he was â€Å"busy in studies� ..he could’nt become Tendulkar. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok..just simple answer a simple question raised by Bhaskar ji himself: > > > > > > > > > > > > â€Å"But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership of the 2nd house.. > > > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?� > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 9:06 PM > > > @gro ups.com > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali ji, > > > > > > I am sory but I have not yet been able to send my point across. > > > > > > If a native has a planet Mars who is a significator of a child in his > > > Horoscope, then how would you expect this native to give birth to > > > children if the Mars Mahadasha comes to him before age 15 ? Will he be > > > married before age 15 by his parents to produce children or will he be > > > sent to school to study ? > > > > > > In same manner when it comes to creation of wealth, You have yourself > > > accepted that the boy in question was studying, then from which part of > > > the heavens can he pick out wealth and display it , even if his Venus > > > Mahadasha was running and Venus Mahadasha signifies wealth ? > > > > > > You are not trying to understand. Yes Venus certainly promises wealth > > > creations for him, but the boy was not in business or service, then how > > > could he create wealth ? And okay from 1ge 18 he could earn or have love > > > affairs or marry. But did you allow him to go out and have love affairs, > > > and marry ? or work and earn money ? If not Then how how can we expect > > > things to happen on its own ? > > > > > > And between age 18 -25 when the Venus Mahadasha was ending and in its > > > last stages, I have already proved through the significators, that he > > > could not have earnt good wealth..due to the antardasha Lords which deny > > > the type of wealth which you are looking for. > > > > > > I will once again explain in short and for full and final..before I > > > leave this thread. > > > > > > 1) The planet Venus does promise wealth to the native. > > > 2) But the Venus Mahadasha comes to him from age 5 to 25. > > > 3) At this age nobody works , unless he is born on the road, and you too > > > have accepted that the boy was studying, so how can we expect wealth > > > creations from him ? > > > 4) Between age 18-25 when he was at the last stage of Venus Mahadasha, > > > he was not running positive antardashas, and he was also studying, so > > > how could you expect him to earn good wealth, have love affairs, marry > > > and bring in money ? Did you or his parents ask him to work after age 18 > > > ? If not then from where will money come ? > > > > > > You are not trying to understand the simple crux of the matter, and I am > > > unable to make you understand. > > > > > > Lets leave it... > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> , SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > At the outset ,IÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢d like to give u thanks, for putting your > > > valuable time to study this case. > > > > > > > > My pointwise reply is as under: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.// as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give > > > money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full > > > mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the > > > longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// > > > > > > > > Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a > > > planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole > > > dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain > > > happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for > > > whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet > > > the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change > > > even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every > > > week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or > > > every week of the month give the same type of results ? > > > ............ ....No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in > > > line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same > > > results everyday ? > > > > > > > > Reply: I cant believe that a person of caliber like bhaskar ji has > > > interpretated this in this narrow manner. > > > > > > > > Here my point is that, if ve is surely going to provide wealth as > > > pointed out by Bhaskar ji himself. > > > > > > > > So the logical interpretation would be to think that during its > > > mahadasha which if a fairly long period of 20 years,ve shouldÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢ve > > > given wealth during the whole period AS A WHOLE, & NOT EVERYDAY/EVERY > > > HOUR/EVERY MIN. i.e.if one measure result of Ve mahadasha as a whole, > > > one should be in a position to conclude that ve mahadasha was favourable > > > to the native in terms of wealth which is not the case here. > > > > > > > > 2. //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing > > > happened to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his > > > studies & nothing substantial happened related with ve. If ve is > > > considered as imp planet for wealth & other area it represents ,during a > > > period of 20 years ,something which can be measured as substantial must > > > have happened to the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to > > > be the strongest.// > > > > > > > > Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 > > > do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have > > > happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We > > > are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples > > > of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 > > > ...) > > > > > > > > Reply: ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å"What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 do ? Earn > > > wealth, and have love affairs and marryÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â� > > > > > > > > Not a boy, but obviously yes , a teenager/young man of 20-25 is always > > > expected to earn wealth ( if he is running Ve mahadasha & if ve is a > > > strong sig of money as pointed by bhaskarji himself as its not totally > > > abnormal for a young person to accumulate wealth in age group 20-25 > > > atleast , if not earlier & have atleast love affairs( ve is strong sig > > > of 5,6,3,11) if not marriage/love marriage. > > > > > > > > 3.At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 > > > > > > > > Look at what saturn signifies. > > > > > > > > Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 > > > > > > > > At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 > > > > > > > > Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 > > > > > > > > At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 > > > > > > > > Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 > > > > > > > > Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show > > > great figures of wealth creations ??? > > > > > > > > Reply: during age of 5-17, we ourselves should not expect the native > > > to earn wealth & during 18-25,dashas are not favourable to earn wealth > > > as pointed by Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > Then what is the overall result of Ve mahadasha of 20 years if Ve is > > > said to be a strong sig of Money in this case?? When its results are > > > likely to be in full swing..??? > > > > > > > > As in words of Bhaskar ji himself: > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å"But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money > > > whenever its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests > > > the 6th and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to > > > ownership of the 2nd house.. > > > > > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No > > > planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets > > > represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ?ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â� > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.// Plz note that IÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'¢â€žÂ¢m not in favour that Ve is an > > > important planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the > > > time of incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but > > > same when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// > > > > > > > > In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in > > > an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 > > > could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it > > > will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a > > > teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his > > > could have provided what you are looking for. > > > > > > > > Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to > > > understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn > > > millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... > > > > > > > > Reply: to the extent I understand KP, RP at the time of actual event > > > must be in agreement with significators of that event based on > > > TOB.Thus,if they dnt tally, TOB can be assumed to be incorrect. > > > IÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢m not expecting the native to be a millionaire or not but if ve > > > is a strong sig of money/wealth & heÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢s running through ve > > > Mahadasha, atleast he can be assumed to have earned something more than > > > a few thousand rupees, which he didnÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢t during its mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> [k_p_ system@grou ps.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> ] > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > Saturday, January 16, 2010 12:11 PM > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> > > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali ji, > > > > > > > > // as pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give > > > money. If its so, why it failed to give results during its full > > > mahadasha means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the > > > longest amongst the planets of 20 years),// > > > > > > > > Neither KP nor Traditional approach anywhere says or teaches that if a > > > planet is important to give money, then it will do so for its whole > > > dasha. In fact astrology does not teach this anywhere. Can we remain > > > happy during the whole of the day ? Can we remain just romantic for > > > whole fo the day ? can we just listen to Bhajans or shastriya sangeet > > > the whole of the day ? Are our moods and feelings not subject to change > > > even within a span of 18 hours of consciousness every day ? Can every > > > week day give you the same type of results every day of the week ? Or > > > every week of the month give the same type of results ? > > > ............ ....No this is absurd thinking and illogical and not in > > > line.....Therefore how can 20 years of Venus mahadasha give tou same > > > results everyday ? > > > > > > > > // Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms > > > of wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native.// > > > > > > > > This is again absurd expectations and not in Line. why should Venus > > > always represent Love or marriage ? Its the natural karaka-Yes. But then > > > its also karaka for jewels and automobiles etc.. Do You mean to say that > > > ever body running Venus dasha will have Love affairs, marriage, wealth > > > creations etc.. > > > > > > > > Apart from being natural karaka every planet has got its designated > > > role to play which changes with every individual Horoscope. You must > > > check what gives Love affairs in your Horoscope. What gives marriage in > > > Your horoscope? here what means - Which planet and at what period. > > > > > > > > //During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened > > > to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & > > > nothing substantial > > > > > > > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for wealth > > > & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years ,something which > > > can be measured as substantial must have happened to the native, as this > > > the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest.// > > > > > > > > Again absurd expectations . What do you expect a boy from age 5 to 25 > > > do ? Earn wealth, and have love affairs and marry ? This could have > > > happened only in the last 2-3 years of ending of venus mahadasha. (We > > > are talking of normal people and not Greats so do not give me examples > > > of those who have become father at age 16 or earnt millions at age 18 > > > ....) > > > > > > > > Here some commonsense is necessary and not too much astrology is > > > required to know the why .. > > > > > > > > At age 18 - the Saturn antar begun- the year was 1995 > > > > > > > > Look at what saturn signifies. > > > > > > > > Sat - 1,7,8 9 Mer 5, 4, 12 Mars 5, 5 > > > > > > > > At age 21 - the Budh antar begun - the year was 1998 > > > > > > > > Budh 5, 4,12 Ketu 10,7,8,9, 5 Venus 6, 11 > > > > > > > > At age 24 - the Ketu antar begun - the year was 2001 > > > > > > > > Ketu 10, 7, 8, 9, 5 Ketu 10,7,8,9 5 Jup 11,6,10 > > > > > > > > Do the antardashas of Saturn, Mercury and Ketu from age 18 to 25 show > > > great figures of wealth creations ??? > > > > > > > > and does a boy in that age concentrate on his studies in India (Or > > > elsewhere in the world) or do his parents push him in business or > > > profession ? Then how can we expect him to earn money during this age > > > even if we suppose that the last two antardasha could have given him > > > some money ? > > > > > > > > // Plz note that IÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'¢â€žÂ¢m not in favour that Ve is an important > > > planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of > > > incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same > > > when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true.// > > > > > > > > In other words you are also implying that for ex- if 2 and 7 appear in > > > an age of 80, a man is supposed to marry ???? When this same 2 and 7 > > > could have given him marriage at age of 25-30 while now at age of 80 it > > > will prove as maraka ? Is it not ? In same way you are expecting a > > > teenager to earn money when this dasha if arrived at youth age of his > > > could have provided what you are looking for. > > > > > > > > Why are the RP's needed to understand above, I am unable to > > > understand, when all is crystal clear. We are expecting a child to earn > > > millions at a time when he is expected to study and not work.... > > > > > > > > //Here IÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'¢â€žÂ¢m not expecting that full period of 20 > > > years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period > > > of 20 years must have produced substantial result// > > > > > > > > Last 5 years of his venus mahadasha I have already proved with the > > > figures what you could have expected the native to bring in as outputs > > > had you put him in work, instead of studies. And before that we cannot > > > expect a boy between age 5 to 17 to work and produce wealth for us . Or > > > do we ? > > > > > > > > I dismiss the above case as expecting absudities and illogical results > > > at an unsuitable age from the native in question. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> , SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your input to the case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As pointed by you, ve is certainly the important planet to give > > > money. > > > > > > > > > > If its so, why it failed to give results during its full mahadasha > > > means as a whole of the mahadasha of ve (which is one of the longest > > > amongst the planets of 20 years), > > > > > > > > > > Nothing substantial in terms of ve & area its represents in terms of > > > wealth, love affairs, marriage, etc happened to the native. > > > > > > > > > > During mahadasha period from 16-8-1982 to 16-8-2002,nothing happened > > > to the native related to ve, native was just occupied in his studies & > > > nothing substantial > > > > > > > > > > happened related with ve. If ve is considered as imp planet for > > > wealth & other area it represents ,during a period of 20 years > > > ,something which can be measured as substantial must have happened to > > > the native, as this the period where Ve is supposed to be the strongest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here IÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'¢â€žÂ¢m not expecting that full period of 20 > > > years,native must accumulate good wealth but as a whole this long period > > > of 20 years must have produced substantial result. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Plz note that IÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'¢â€žÂ¢m not in favour that Ve is an important > > > planet or not for money, point here is that actual RP at the time of > > > incidents are suggesting that ve is the an important planet but same > > > when compared with Ve mahadasha of 20 years does not come true. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sonali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> [k_p_ system@grou ps.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> ] > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > Friday, January 15, 2010 1:33 AM > > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> > > > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry. But what type of KP are we doing.. > > > > > If any planet gives money or shows money or wealth creations like in > > > this case Venus .. > > > > > Ve 6,11 Sun 5,3 Moon 10,1,2 > > > > > Venus is clearly to give wealth, but how can one expect venus to > > > give money all of 20 years ? Would the antardasha Lords go to sleep till > > > then ? > > > > > > > > > > But Venus is certainly an important planet to give money whenever > > > its antardasha arrives, because not only Venus itself suggests the 6th > > > and 11th, but its sublord too confirms wealth creations due to ownership > > > of the 2nd house.. > > > > > > > > > > Now I ask the seniors here to please throw some light here. Since No > > > planet is there in the nakshatra of Venus, then which other planets > > > represent the results of Venus and in what strength ? > > > > > > > > > > What about Venus itself? When will it show its full results ? > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> > > > <k_p_ system% 40. com> , Naresh Valecha superstaar_n_ v@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali,ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ I took up the details that were put up by > > > you and rectified the birth time accordingly. You did not mention the > > > time of birth which has been originally recorded before correcting > > > it.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ Although RP's at the time of judgement give you a clear > > > picture of birth lagna IÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ would like to know what time has > > > been originally recorded before rectification was done by you. > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 13/1/10, SONALI sonali.me.2009@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SONALI sonali.me.2009@ > > > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > @gro ups.com <k_p_ system% 40. com> > > > <k_p_ system% 40. com> > > > > > > Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 11:55 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nareshji, > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > If you wish, I can provide you date wise incidents in > > > nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¾ÃÆ'‚¢s life to cross check whether rectified > > > TOB is correct or not. > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ Sonali > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou > > > ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > > > > Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:16 AM > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sonali, Sincerely IÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ could not understand the table > > > andÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ as per your table and calculationsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ I could not > > > follow how Venus isÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ anÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ Important planet during its > > > own Dasa.Venus if you see is in the sixth house and also itÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > is in 6-8 relation with respect to its own house, i.e if we count 2 as > > > lagna Venus falls in the eighth, besides it is also the sixth and > > > twelveth cuspal sublord, again it is in the star of Sun lord of 2 with > > > Mars lord of 10th and 5. Venus is in the sub of moon afflicted by Saturn > > > and Ketu too, Moon-ketu being together in the tenth. Note the strenght > > > of Moon too its only 02-28 in Aries.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ Afflicted and weak moon > > > in no way can give the native a good Venus Dasa.This is KP. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now coming to the traditional astrological part. Aries Sade-Sati > > > (7 -1/2 yrs of Saturn) started from feb.1996-2003. When the 10th house > > > is posited with moon and isÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ afflicted by malefics Sani and > > > Ketu. During Sade-Sati 7-1/2yrs of Saturns transit the native has to > > > struggle much through the houses signified by Saturn and Moon if they > > > are not connected with favourably.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ How could Venus be a chief > > > important planet, Venus in the Sub of afflicted Moon and under the sway > > > of Saturn's transitÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ from 1996-2003. > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > Tuesday, 12 January, 2010, 8:20 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Valechaji, > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > Thnx for your analysis. > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > But if your analysis is considered as correct , how ve is coming > > > as most imp money yielding planet as evident from the table: > > > > > > So the basic question remains unanswered. > > > > > > Thus either TOB is uncorrect or at 20.51.48,ve must come as most > > > imp money yielding planet so as to tally with actual incidents. > > > > > > & if same is most imp money yielding planet, why it failed to > > > yield the same during its full mahadasha of 20 yrs itself. > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ SIGN LRD > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ STR LRD > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ SUB > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ TOTAL > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ % > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ RANK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ 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ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ 300.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ Sonali > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou > > > ps.com] On Behalf Of Naresh Valecha > > > > > > Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:56 PM > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sonali, the time rectified isÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ nearly correct except > > > as I found the SSL Sun instead of Venus giving me a time as 20.52.30. > > > ruling planets taken on 12/01/2010; 07-11am; Ambernath. The rectified > > > lagna as per my verification should be Moon-Guru-Rahu- Sun. The main > > > question is what is the important planet.? if we analyse Venus dasa on > > > the whole Venus being lord of 4 and 11, posited in the Sixth with > > > Mercury the lord of 3,12 it wouldÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ not give good results being > > > in the sixth. TheÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ period from 1995 end(Saturn bhukti) would > > > mark the start of hurdles. In short during Venus Dasa the native had to > > > struggle. Sun-Sun, Sun-Moon, Sun Mars could not yield much.Sun dasa > > > promises good resultsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ partiallyÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ during > > > Sun-Rahu & Jupiter bhukti only. Sun-Sat dasa would not prove beneficial, > > > Sun-Ketu, Sun-VenÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ wouldÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ be fair enough,ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > Now the question arises why the emphasis on Sun Dasa -Rahu & Jupiter > > > Bhukti gave good results because in the year 2004 Jupiter was transiting > > > in > > > > > > Leo second house of the native and all the stars in Leo gave > > > sucess with Education, career and status. In Short Dasa-Bhukti- Antara > > > lordsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ prove fruitful during their transits in favourable > > > houses viz. 1,2,3,6,10,11. > > > > > > > > > > > > Naresh Valecha > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 11/1/10, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com> > > > > > > RE: Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > Monday, 11 January, 2010, 9:24 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TWji, > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > Note: plz read dob as 2-12-1976 > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > Then what according to you, should be the correct TOB ( for the > > > same horo lajmiji has corrected TOB as 20.20) > > > > > > But , based on this TOB, 5th sub is Sa & as per KP,if sub of 5th > > > is sig of 8/12 houses,native will have losses from Stock market. > > > > > > While actually, native is having profit from stock market although > > > not very substantial or in the manner expected by native. > > > > > > Thus, tob of 20.20 does not hold true based on income from stock > > > market. > > > > > > Can you/anyone else correct above tob, given the fact that > > > calendar year 2004 was the best year so far in > > > nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¾ÃÆ'‚¢s life(from education,career, financial > > > point of view) > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ Sonali > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou > > > ps.com] On Behalf Of TW > > > > > > Monday, January 11, 2010 7:14 PM > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > 1. Dob: 02 dec 176? 1976? > > > > > > If 1976 and consequently Asc Cn 02:49:05 (KPNA 23:26:41), there is > > > no way to get money in Sun Dasa*, and so the rectified TOB is not > > > tallied with live event. > > > > > > *Su(5,3); in star and sub Me(5,4-12). > > > > > > 2. There is also no way to calculate such figures for planet. > > > > > > In KP, significators are ranked by order of A,B,C,D & E decided by > > > sub signification, taking into account of whether having no planet in > > > their stars or own star or own sub, RPS (if applied) on case by case > > > basis etc. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > TW > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ ...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All Respected Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In case of a person with birth details as under: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dob: 02 dec 176 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tob 20.51.48( as corrected with RP method) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Place Shujalpur(M. P.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sex Male > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Various Most imp money incidents are observed : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This tables shows how much each of the planet has contributed as > > > > > > > Sign/str/sub lord as RP (Lagn & mon position) at the most close > > > time of > > > > > > > incident: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PNT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SIGN LRD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > STR LRD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SUB > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > % > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RANK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SU > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7.05 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.14 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 20.03 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 28.15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 48.18 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 16 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ME > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 31.76 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9.38 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.04 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 43.19 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JU > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14.85 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.60 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15.64 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 33.09 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 23.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18.45 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 22.45 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 63.91 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 21 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8.30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0.56 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8.86 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.73 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 39.56 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 51.29 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 17 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.63 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 17.70 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 21.33 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TOTAL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 300.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 100.00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From above, it appears that, ve is the most imp money giving > > > planet.But > > > > > > > above money incidents occurred after passing of Full mahadasha > > > of ve of 20 > > > > > > > years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I.e.above incidents occurred during Su mahadasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If ve is supposed to be the most imp money giving planet(as > > > appeared from > > > > > > > above table), why it failed to yield any such results during its > > > Mahadasha > > > > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your > > > Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your > > > Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your > > > Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Dear Members, I have been following this discussion with interest. On the face of it, it appears quite illogical that a person makes a lot of money at a very young age. But if we look around a little, we come across a number of examples where young people, who we may assume should be studying in schools and colleges, are working and earning what may appear to some indecent sums of money. Sachin Tendulkar made his debut in the test cricket at the age of 16 and must have made a lot of money by the time he was 25. May be he is an exception rather than the rule as far as the cricketers are concerned but what about the young kids working in the films and TV serials? And what about the young children appearing as models in both the print as well as visual media? Are they not working and earning at a very young age? We read about very young children who are tech savvy running their own companies (besides going to schools and colleges) where they provide services like internet security and search engine optimization and what not and making a lot of money. So, if we look at it this way, I don’t think that it is “perverted†to expect a young man to make money. Having said that, I would like to emphasize that KP rules are time tested and if in one particular case the rules do not appear to work then it is safe to assume that the problem might be due to some discrepancy in the birth data. Regards, Sandeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Dear Sandeep ji, Because KP rules show that a particular planet will bring in money-wealth, does it only show that wealth ONLY can come ? Can there not be other options as Shri Senthil ji has pointed out in his most recent mail ? Because KP rules show that a particular planet will bring in money-wealth, does it mean that every time the antardasha of that planet will come, everytime that native will get money-wealth, even if the dasha has come when the native was a 2 year old Baby ? We are ourselves wrong in application of the rules , and we conveniently blame the KP rules or the Birth data... Is age not a factor of consideration of applying astrological rules whether KP, or Traditional or whatever ? Do You mean to say that if 2 and 7 comes at youth that man will marry and even at age of 80 he will marry again ? In this particular Query, when the member had already established that the boy was studying then for heavens sake, how can we compare him to the boys like Sachin tendulkar, or the boys who are working as newspaper boys working alongwith study or with child models ? One cannot expect him to have a " Parasmani " that alongwith his studies he is simultaneosuly touching all objects and making them Gold? We are normal people and talking about normal people and not celebrities. Neither did this member mentioned that the boy was a celebrity. So theres no question of expecting him to earn an enormous amount of wealth alongside his studies. This could have only happened if that boy was working alongside education, or purchasing a lotteryticket everyday, which the member did not mention so. Hence I called this expectation as " Perverted " . Any further discussions on this would be futile, as I see it. regards, Bhaskar. , sandeep patel <sandeeppatel21 wrote: > > Dear Members, > > > I have been following this discussion with interest. On the > face of it, it appears quite illogical that a person makes a lot of money at a > very young age. But if we look around a little, we come across a number of > examples where young people, who we may assume should be studying in schools > and colleges, are working and earning what may appear to some indecent sums of > money. > > > Sachin Tendulkar made his debut in the test cricket at the > age of 16 and must have made a lot of money by the time he was 25. May be he is > an exception rather than the rule as far as the cricketers are concerned but > what about the young kids working in the films and TV serials? And what about > the young children appearing as models in both the print as well as visual > media? Are they not working and earning at a very young age? > > > We read about very young children who are tech savvy running > their own companies (besides going to schools and colleges) where they provide > services like internet security and search engine optimization and what not and > making a lot of money. > > > So, if we look at it this way, I don’t think that it is “perverted†> to expect a young man to make money. Having said that, I would like to emphasize > that KP rules are time tested and if in one particular case the rules do not appear to work then it is safe to assume that the problem might be due to some discrepancy > in the birth data. > > > Regards, > > Sandeep > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Dear sandeep ji, I would also advise you to please do some homework before talking about Sachin tendulkar. pl check what is his educational qualifications and exactly at what age did he leave his studies... and then analyse yourself about your stance.. Bhaskar. , sandeep patel <sandeeppatel21 wrote: > > Dear Members, > > > I have been following this discussion with interest. On the > face of it, it appears quite illogical that a person makes a lot of money at a > very young age. But if we look around a little, we come across a number of > examples where young people, who we may assume should be studying in schools > and colleges, are working and earning what may appear to some indecent sums of > money. > > > Sachin Tendulkar made his debut in the test cricket at the > age of 16 and must have made a lot of money by the time he was 25. May be he is > an exception rather than the rule as far as the cricketers are concerned but > what about the young kids working in the films and TV serials? And what about > the young children appearing as models in both the print as well as visual > media? Are they not working and earning at a very young age? > > > We read about very young children who are tech savvy running > their own companies (besides going to schools and colleges) where they provide > services like internet security and search engine optimization and what not and > making a lot of money. > > > So, if we look at it this way, I don’t think that it is “perverted†> to expect a young man to make money. Having said that, I would like to emphasize > that KP rules are time tested and if in one particular case the rules do not appear to work then it is safe to assume that the problem might be due to some discrepancy > in the birth data. > > > Regards, > > Sandeep > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 DEAR SIRS THIS TOPIC IS QUITEINTERESTING some contribution in mY part the child actor Tare jameenper DARSHEEL AND SLUMDOG MILLIONERE CHILDREN BECOME LAKH PATHIS OVER NIGHT AND WE USED TO HEAR YESTER YEARS BABY ACTOR (SOUTHINDIA) baby anjali was a big tax payyer in her age of TWOall these indeviduals earn more than the regular normal persons so earning money is not uncoman at all in any stage but we have to gather the charts to know which planet and in what antardasa ofit s benefiting the charts to our know ledge thanking YOU SANTA -- On Sat, 1/23/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 3:35 PM Dear Sandeep ji, Because KP rules show that a particular planet will bring in money-wealth, does it only show that wealth ONLY can come ? Can there not be other options as Shri Senthil ji has pointed out in his most recent mail ? Because KP rules show that a particular planet will bring in money-wealth, does it mean that every time the antardasha of that planet will come, everytime that native will get money-wealth, even if the dasha has come when the native was a 2 year old Baby ? We are ourselves wrong in application of the rules , and we conveniently blame the KP rules or the Birth data... Is age not a factor of consideration of applying astrological rules whether KP, or Traditional or whatever ? Do You mean to say that if 2 and 7 comes at youth that man will marry and even at age of 80 he will marry again ? In this particular Query, when the member had already established that the boy was studying then for heavens sake, how can we compare him to the boys like Sachin tendulkar, or the boys who are working as newspaper boys working alongwith study or with child models ? One cannot expect him to have a "Parasmani" that alongwith his studies he is simultaneosuly touching all objects and making them Gold? We are normal people and talking about normal people and not celebrities. Neither did this member mentioned that the boy was a celebrity. So theres no question of expecting him to earn an enormous amount of wealth alongside his studies. This could have only happened if that boy was working alongside education, or purchasing a lotteryticket everyday, which the member did not mention so. Hence I called this expectation as "Perverted". Any further discussions on this would be futile, as I see it. regards, Bhaskar. @gro ups.com, sandeep patel <sandeeppatel21@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Members, > > > I have been following this discussion with interest. On the > face of it, it appears quite illogical that a person makes a lot of money at a > very young age. But if we look around a little, we come across a number of > examples where young people, who we may assume should be studying in schools > and colleges, are working and earning what may appear to some indecent sums of > money. > > > Sachin Tendulkar made his debut in the test cricket at the > age of 16 and must have made a lot of money by the time he was 25. May be he is > an exception rather than the rule as far as the cricketers are concerned but > what about the young kids working in the films and TV serials? And what about > the young children appearing as models in both the print as well as visual > media? Are they not working and earning at a very young age? > > > We read about very young children who are tech savvy running > their own companies (besides going to schools and colleges) where they provide > services like internet security and search engine optimization and what not and > making a lot of money. > > > So, if we look at it this way, I don’t think that it is “perverted†> to expect a young man to make money. Having said that, I would like to emphasize > that KP rules are time tested and if in one particular case the rules do not appear to work then it is safe to assume that the problem might be due to some discrepancy > in the birth data. > > > Regards, > > Sandeep > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Sir, I can produce more than an 100 such Examples... But we are talking about normal persons....who were apparently not in the " Karma " to receive the results signified by the planet and expected from same, but in retrospection. There are many charts I come across where the natives could have earnt lakhs of rupees in stock Markets in periods which signified 5 and 11, but they were not even remotely connected to the Stock Markets, and had no astrologer to tell them that " Bhai next 18 months are good for you to invest in the Share markets and you can earn lakhs... " They missed these antardasha periods, but could have gained other positives of 5 and 11 whatever they would have been...during these periods they missed. So we cannot compare normal charts of normal children who are studying - with such exceptional cases, where probably their families allowed them to go out, explore, and take the offers coming their way with full support. But in same vein their studies too must have suffered badly on account of this.... Lets not forget this that normally the Prince is placed on the throne only when the King dies. Positives and negatives have to come together most of the time... If the child was studying then theres no way we could expect him to earn money... For that his parents have to allow him to take part in extra curriculum activities . And no responsible patents actually remove their children from studies just so that he could bring in some money home... by engaging in other activities and neglecting school. AT least uptil high school, any sane person with some Love for his children would not want his child to leave school however merged he may be in utter poverty... It is only the " Lalchi " who do this..who want money at the cost of using their children. regards, Bhaskar. , Santa Boorla <strawberry1948 wrote: > > DEAR SIRS >          THIS TOPIC IS QUITEINTERESTING some contribution in mY part the child actor Tare jameenper DARSHEEL AND SLUMDOG MILLIONERE CHILDREN BECOME LAKH PATHIS OVER NIGHT AND WE USED TO HEAR YESTER YEARS BABY ACTOR (SOUTHINDIA) baby anjali was a big tax payyer in her age of TWOall these indeviduals  earn more than the regular normal persons so earning money is not uncoman at all in any stage  but we have to gather the charts to know which planet and in what antardasa ofit s benefiting the charts to our know ledge >                     thanking YOU SANTA > > > -- On Sat, 1/23/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > Saturday, January 23, 2010, 3:35 PM >  > > > > > Dear Sandeep ji, > > > > Because KP rules show that a particular planet will bring in > > money-wealth, does it only show that wealth ONLY can come ? Can there > > not be other options as Shri Senthil ji has pointed out in his most > > recent mail ? > > > > Because KP rules show that a particular planet will bring in > > money-wealth, does it mean that every time the antardasha of that > > planet will come, everytime that native will get money-wealth, even if > > the dasha has come when the native was a 2 year old Baby ? > > > > We are ourselves wrong in application of the rules , and we conveniently > > blame the KP rules or the Birth data... > > > > Is age not a factor of consideration of applying astrological rules > > whether KP, or Traditional or whatever ? > > > > Do You mean to say that if 2 and 7 comes at youth that man will marry > > and even at age of 80 he will marry again ? > > > > In this particular Query, when the member had already established that > > the boy was studying then for heavens sake, how can we compare him to > > the boys like Sachin tendulkar, or the boys who are working as newspaper > > boys working alongwith study or with child models ? One cannot expect > > him to have a " Parasmani " that alongwith his studies he is > > simultaneosuly touching all objects and making them Gold? > > > > We are normal people and talking about normal people and not > > celebrities. Neither did this member mentioned that the boy was a > > celebrity. So theres no question of expecting him to earn an enormous > > amount of wealth alongside his studies. This could have only happened > > if that boy was working alongside education, or purchasing a > > lotteryticket everyday, which the member did not mention so. > > > > Hence I called this expectation as " Perverted " . > > > > Any further discussions on this would be futile, as I see it. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > @gro ups.com, sandeep patel <sandeeppatel21@ ....> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > I have been following this discussion with interest. On the > > > face of it, it appears quite illogical that a person makes a lot of > > money at a > > > very young age. But if we look around a little, we come across a > > number of > > > examples where young people, who we may assume should be studying in > > schools > > > and colleges, are working and earning what may appear to some indecent > > sums of > > > money. > > > > > > > > > Sachin Tendulkar made his debut in the test cricket at the > > > age of 16 and must have made a lot of money by the time he was 25. May > > be he is > > > an exception rather than the rule as far as the cricketers are > > concerned but > > > what about the young kids working in the films and TV serials? And > > what about > > > the young children appearing as models in both the print as well as > > visual > > > media? Are they not working and earning at a very young age? > > > > > > > > > We read about very young children who are tech savvy running > > > their own companies (besides going to schools and colleges) where they > > provide > > > services like internet security and search engine optimization and > > what not and > > > making a lot of money. > > > > > > > > > So, if we look at it this way, I don’t think that it is > > “perverted†> > > to expect a young man to make money. Having said that, I would like to > > emphasize > > > that KP rules are time tested and if in one particular case the rules > > do not appear to work then it is safe to assume that the problem might > > be due to some discrepancy > > > in the birth data. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sandeep > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Dear Bhaskar, Only K.P. can help here... The sublord of the Ascendant reveals the "money"/ "Wealth" status of any individual, but his TOB must be correct as per K.P., such that the Ascendant sublord and sub-sublord appear as the Moon's st..lord and sub-lord respectively... Try it out and inform... Yogesh Lajmi. Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Sun, 24 January, 2010 1:31:45 PM Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET Sir,I can produce more than an 100 such Examples...But we are talking about normal persons....who were apparently not inthe "Karma" to receive the results signified by the planet and expectedfrom same, but in retrospection.There are many charts I come across where the natives could have earntlakhs of rupees in stock Markets in periods which signified 5 and 11,but they were not even remotely connected to the Stock Markets, and hadno astrologer to tell them that " Bhai next 18 months are good for youto invest in the Share markets and you can earn lakhs..." They missedthese antardasha periods, but could have gained other positives of 5 and11 whatever they would have been...during these periods they missed.So we cannot compare normal charts of normal children who are studying -with such exceptional cases, where probably their families allowed themto go out, explore, and take the offers coming their way with fullsupport. But in same vein their studies too must have suffered badly onaccount of this.... Lets not forget this that normally the Prince isplaced on the throne only when the King dies. Positives and negativeshave to come together most of the time...If the child was studying then theres no way we could expect him to earnmoney... For that his parents have to allow him to take part in extracurriculum activities . And no responsible patents actually removetheir children from studies just so that he could bring in some moneyhome... by engaging in other activities and neglecting school. AT leastuptil high school, any sane person with some Love for his children wouldnot want his child to leave school however merged he may be in utterpoverty... It is only the "Lalchi" who do this..who want money at thecost of using their children.regards,Bhaskar.--- In @gro ups.com, Santa Boorla <strawberry1948@ ...>wrote:>> DEAR SIRS>          THIS TOPIC ISQUITEINTERESTING some contribution in mY part the child actor Tare jameenper DARSHEEL AND SLUMDOG MILLIONERE CHILDREN BECOMELAKH PATHIS OVER NIGHT AND WE USED TO HEAR YESTER YEARS BABY ACTOR(SOUTHINDIA) baby anjali was a big tax payyer in her age of TWOall these indeviduals  earn more than the regular normalpersons so earning money is not uncoman at all in any stage but we have to gather the charts to know which planet and inwhat antardasa ofit s benefiting the charts to our knowledgeÂ>              Â      thanking YOU SANTA>>> -- On Sat, 1/23/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:>> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET> @gro ups.com> Saturday, January 23, 2010, 3:35 PM>>>>>>>> Â>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Sandeep ji,>>>> Because KP rules show that a particular planet will bring in>> money-wealth, does it only show that wealth ONLY can come ? Can there>> not be other options as Shri Senthil ji has pointed out in his most>> recent mail ?>>>> Because KP rules show that a particular planet will bring in>> money-wealth, does it mean that every time the antardasha of that>> planet will come, everytime that native will get money-wealth, even if>> the dasha has come when the native was a 2 year old Baby ?>>>> We are ourselves wrong in application of the rules , and weconveniently>> blame the KP rules or the Birth data....>>>> Is age not a factor of consideration of applying astrological rules>> whether KP, or Traditional or whatever ?>>>> Do You mean to say that if 2 and 7 comes at youth that man will marry>> and even at age of 80 he will marry again ?>>>> In this particular Query, when the member had already established that>> the boy was studying then for heavens sake, how can we compare him to>> the boys like Sachin tendulkar, or the boys who are working asnewspaper>> boys working alongwith study or with child models ? One cannot expect>> him to have a "Parasmani" that alongwith his studies he is>> simultaneosuly touching all objects and making them Gold?>>>> We are normal people and talking about normal people and not>> celebrities. Neither did this member mentioned that the boy was a>> celebrity. So theres no question of expecting him to earn an enormous>> amount of wealth alongside his studies. This could have only happened>> if that boy was working alongside education, or purchasing a>> lotteryticket everyday, which the member did not mention so.>>>> Hence I called this expectation as "Perverted".>>>> Any further discussions on this would be futile, as I see it.>>>> regards,>>>> Bhaskar.>>>> @gro ups.com, sandeep patel <sandeeppatel21>> wrote:>> >>> > Dear Members,>> >>> >>> > I have been following this discussion with interest. On the>> > face of it, it appears quite illogical that a person makes a lot of>> money at a>> > very young age. But if we look around a little, we come across a>> number of>> > examples where young people, who we may assume should be studying in>> schools>> > and colleges, are working and earning what may appear to someindecent>> sums of>> > money.>> >>> >>> > Sachin Tendulkar made his debut in the test cricket at the>> > age of 16 and must have made a lot of money by the time he was 25.May>> be he is>> > an exception rather than the rule as far as the cricketers are>> concerned but>> > what about the young kids working in the films and TV serials? And>> what about>> > the young children appearing as models in both the print as well as>> visual>> > media? Are they not working and earning at a very young age?>> >>> >>> > We read about very young children who are tech savvy running>> > their own companies (besides going to schools and colleges) wherethey>> provide>> > services like internet security and search engine optimization and>> what not and>> > making a lot of money.>> >>> >>> > So, if we look at it this way, I don’t think that it is>> “pervertedâ€�>> > to expect a young man to make money. Having said that, I would liketo>> emphasize>> > that KP rules are time tested and if in one particular case therules>> do not appear to work then it is safe to assume that the problem might>> be due to some discrepancy>> > in the birth data.>> >>> >>> > Regards,>> >>> > Sandeep>> >> See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Dear Yogesh ji, Yes,this time I am also going to try this rule as suggested by Your goodself on 50 known charts during the next 6-8 months before I report my findings.. kind regards, Bhaskar. , Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, >                     Only K.P. can help here... >                     The sublord of the Ascendant reveals the " money " / " Wealth " status of any individual, but his TOB must be correct as per K.P., such that the Ascendant sublord and sub-sublord appear as the Moon's st.lord and sub-lord respectively... >                     Try it out and inform... >                      Yogesh Lajmi. > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish > > Sun, 24 January, 2010 1:31:45 PM > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > >  > > Sir, > > I can produce more than an 100 such Examples... > > But we are talking about normal persons....who were apparently not in > the " Karma " to receive the results signified by the planet and expected > from same, but in retrospection. > > There are many charts I come across where the natives could have earnt > lakhs of rupees in stock Markets in periods which signified 5 and 11, > but they were not even remotely connected to the Stock Markets, and had > no astrologer to tell them that " Bhai next 18 months are good for you > to invest in the Share markets and you can earn lakhs... " They missed > these antardasha periods, but could have gained other positives of 5 and > 11 whatever they would have been...during these periods they missed. > > So we cannot compare normal charts of normal children who are studying - > with such exceptional cases, where probably their families allowed them > to go out, explore, and take the offers coming their way with full > support. But in same vein their studies too must have suffered badly on > account of this.... Lets not forget this that normally the Prince is > placed on the throne only when the King dies. Positives and negatives > have to come together most of the time... > > If the child was studying then theres no way we could expect him to earn > money... For that his parents have to allow him to take part in extra > curriculum activities . And no responsible patents actually remove > their children from studies just so that he could bring in some money > home... by engaging in other activities and neglecting school. AT least > uptil high school, any sane person with some Love for his children would > not want his child to leave school however merged he may be in utter > poverty... It is only the " Lalchi " who do this..who want money at the > cost of using their children. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > @gro ups.com, Santa Boorla <strawberry1948@ ...> > wrote: > > > > DEAR SIRS > >          THIS TOPIC IS > QUITEINTERESTING some contribution in mY part the child actor > Tare jameenper DARSHEEL AND SLUMDOG MILLIONERE CHILDREN BECOME > LAKH PATHIS OVER NIGHT AND WE USED TO HEAR YESTER YEARS BABY ACTOR > (SOUTHINDIA) baby anjali was a big tax payyer in her age of > TWOall these indeviduals  earn more than the regular normal > persons so earning money is not uncoman at all in any stage >  but we have to gather the charts to know which planet and in > what antardasa ofit s benefiting the charts to our know > ledge > >               >       thanking YOU SANTA > > > > > > -- On Sat, 1/23/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > @gro ups.com > > Saturday, January 23, 2010, 3:35 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sandeep ji, > > > > > > > > Because KP rules show that a particular planet will bring in > > > > money-wealth, does it only show that wealth ONLY can come ? Can there > > > > not be other options as Shri Senthil ji has pointed out in his most > > > > recent mail ? > > > > > > > > Because KP rules show that a particular planet will bring in > > > > money-wealth, does it mean that every time the antardasha of that > > > > planet will come, everytime that native will get money-wealth, even if > > > > the dasha has come when the native was a 2 year old Baby ? > > > > > > > > We are ourselves wrong in application of the rules , and we > conveniently > > > > blame the KP rules or the Birth data... > > > > > > > > Is age not a factor of consideration of applying astrological rules > > > > whether KP, or Traditional or whatever ? > > > > > > > > Do You mean to say that if 2 and 7 comes at youth that man will marry > > > > and even at age of 80 he will marry again ? > > > > > > > > In this particular Query, when the member had already established that > > > > the boy was studying then for heavens sake, how can we compare him to > > > > the boys like Sachin tendulkar, or the boys who are working as > newspaper > > > > boys working alongwith study or with child models ? One cannot expect > > > > him to have a " Parasmani " that alongwith his studies he is > > > > simultaneosuly touching all objects and making them Gold? > > > > > > > > We are normal people and talking about normal people and not > > > > celebrities. Neither did this member mentioned that the boy was a > > > > celebrity. So theres no question of expecting him to earn an enormous > > > > amount of wealth alongside his studies. This could have only happened > > > > if that boy was working alongside education, or purchasing a > > > > lotteryticket everyday, which the member did not mention so. > > > > > > > > Hence I called this expectation as " Perverted " . > > > > > > > > Any further discussions on this would be futile, as I see it. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, sandeep patel <sandeeppatel21@ > ...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been following this discussion with interest. On the > > > > > face of it, it appears quite illogical that a person makes a lot of > > > > money at a > > > > > very young age. But if we look around a little, we come across a > > > > number of > > > > > examples where young people, who we may assume should be studying in > > > > schools > > > > > and colleges, are working and earning what may appear to some > indecent > > > > sums of > > > > > money. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sachin Tendulkar made his debut in the test cricket at the > > > > > age of 16 and must have made a lot of money by the time he was 25. > May > > > > be he is > > > > > an exception rather than the rule as far as the cricketers are > > > > concerned but > > > > > what about the young kids working in the films and TV serials? And > > > > what about > > > > > the young children appearing as models in both the print as well as > > > > visual > > > > > media? Are they not working and earning at a very young age? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We read about very young children who are tech savvy running > > > > > their own companies (besides going to schools and colleges) where > they > > > > provide > > > > > services like internet security and search engine optimization and > > > > what not and > > > > > making a lot of money. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, if we look at it this way, I don’t think that it is > > > >  " pervertedâ€� > > > > > to expect a young man to make money. Having said that, I would like > to > > > > emphasize > > > > > that KP rules are time tested and if in one particular case the > rules > > > > do not appear to work then it is safe to assume that the problem might > > > > be due to some discrepancy > > > > > in the birth data.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sandeep > > > > > > ______________________________\ __ > See what's on at the movies in your area. 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Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Dear Mr Bhaskar,Since at the end of your message you wrote that "Any further discussions on this would be futile, as I see it." I did not send a rejoinder.Anyway, if you read my message carefully, you will notice that nowhere have I said anything about Sachin Tendulkar's educational qualifications. But, everybody knows that he started playing for the country at the age of 16.In response to my earlier message you had said, "We are normal people and talking about normal people and not celebrities." However, these young boys and girls are all 'normal people' when they start working. They, too, have their share of difficulties and setbacks. They, too, have their share of fears and insecurities. But despite these hurdles they achieve celebrity status through their talent and hard work. And instead of wagging our fingers in their faces and giving them lectures on morality the least we can do is to stand up and applaud their achievements.I believe that as an astrologer, my job is to help and guide people using whatever little knowledge I have of astrology. I have no business to sit in judgement on their lives and I have no business taking a high moral ground.But I realize that when temper is flying high, it is very difficult to be objective.With Best Regards,Sandeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 /message/30625 , Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, >                     Only K.P. can help here... >                     The sublord of the Ascendant reveals the " money " / " Wealth " status of any individual, but his TOB must be correct as per K.P., such that the Ascendant sublord and sub-sublord appear as the Moon's st.lord and sub-lord respectively... >                     Try it out and inform... >                      Yogesh Lajmi. > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish > > Sun, 24 January, 2010 1:31:45 PM > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > >  > > Sir, > > I can produce more than an 100 such Examples... > > But we are talking about normal persons....who were apparently not in > the " Karma " to receive the results signified by the planet and expected > from same, but in retrospection. > > There are many charts I come across where the natives could have earnt > lakhs of rupees in stock Markets in periods which signified 5 and 11, > but they were not even remotely connected to the Stock Markets, and had > no astrologer to tell them that " Bhai next 18 months are good for you > to invest in the Share markets and you can earn lakhs... " They missed > these antardasha periods, but could have gained other positives of 5 and > 11 whatever they would have been...during these periods they missed. > > So we cannot compare normal charts of normal children who are studying - > with such exceptional cases, where probably their families allowed them > to go out, explore, and take the offers coming their way with full > support. But in same vein their studies too must have suffered badly on > account of this.... Lets not forget this that normally the Prince is > placed on the throne only when the King dies. Positives and negatives > have to come together most of the time... > > If the child was studying then theres no way we could expect him to earn > money... For that his parents have to allow him to take part in extra > curriculum activities . And no responsible patents actually remove > their children from studies just so that he could bring in some money > home... by engaging in other activities and neglecting school. AT least > uptil high school, any sane person with some Love for his children would > not want his child to leave school however merged he may be in utter > poverty... It is only the " Lalchi " who do this..who want money at the > cost of using their children. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > @gro ups.com, Santa Boorla <strawberry1948@ ...> > wrote: > > > > DEAR SIRS > >          THIS TOPIC IS > QUITEINTERESTING some contribution in mY part the child actor > Tare jameenper DARSHEEL AND SLUMDOG MILLIONERE CHILDREN BECOME > LAKH PATHIS OVER NIGHT AND WE USED TO HEAR YESTER YEARS BABY ACTOR > (SOUTHINDIA) baby anjali was a big tax payyer in her age of > TWOall these indeviduals  earn more than the regular normal > persons so earning money is not uncoman at all in any stage >  but we have to gather the charts to know which planet and in > what antardasa ofit s benefiting the charts to our know > ledge > >               >       thanking YOU SANTA > > > > > > -- On Sat, 1/23/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > Re: WHICH IS THE MOST IMP PLANET > > @gro ups.com > > Saturday, January 23, 2010, 3:35 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sandeep ji, > > > > > > > > Because KP rules show that a particular planet will bring in > > > > money-wealth, does it only show that wealth ONLY can come ? Can there > > > > not be other options as Shri Senthil ji has pointed out in his most > > > > recent mail ? > > > > > > > > Because KP rules show that a particular planet will bring in > > > > money-wealth, does it mean that every time the antardasha of that > > > > planet will come, everytime that native will get money-wealth, even if > > > > the dasha has come when the native was a 2 year old Baby ? > > > > > > > > We are ourselves wrong in application of the rules , and we > conveniently > > > > blame the KP rules or the Birth data... > > > > > > > > Is age not a factor of consideration of applying astrological rules > > > > whether KP, or Traditional or whatever ? > > > > > > > > Do You mean to say that if 2 and 7 comes at youth that man will marry > > > > and even at age of 80 he will marry again ? > > > > > > > > In this particular Query, when the member had already established that > > > > the boy was studying then for heavens sake, how can we compare him to > > > > the boys like Sachin tendulkar, or the boys who are working as > newspaper > > > > boys working alongwith study or with child models ? One cannot expect > > > > him to have a " Parasmani " that alongwith his studies he is > > > > simultaneosuly touching all objects and making them Gold? > > > > > > > > We are normal people and talking about normal people and not > > > > celebrities. Neither did this member mentioned that the boy was a > > > > celebrity. So theres no question of expecting him to earn an enormous > > > > amount of wealth alongside his studies. This could have only happened > > > > if that boy was working alongside education, or purchasing a > > > > lotteryticket everyday, which the member did not mention so. > > > > > > > > Hence I called this expectation as " Perverted " . > > > > > > > > Any further discussions on this would be futile, as I see it. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, sandeep patel <sandeeppatel21@ > ...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been following this discussion with interest. On the > > > > > face of it, it appears quite illogical that a person makes a lot of > > > > money at a > > > > > very young age. But if we look around a little, we come across a > > > > number of > > > > > examples where young people, who we may assume should be studying in > > > > schools > > > > > and colleges, are working and earning what may appear to some > indecent > > > > sums of > > > > > money. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sachin Tendulkar made his debut in the test cricket at the > > > > > age of 16 and must have made a lot of money by the time he was 25. > May > > > > be he is > > > > > an exception rather than the rule as far as the cricketers are > > > > concerned but > > > > > what about the young kids working in the films and TV serials? And > > > > what about > > > > > the young children appearing as models in both the print as well as > > > > visual > > > > > media? Are they not working and earning at a very young age? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We read about very young children who are tech savvy running > > > > > their own companies (besides going to schools and colleges) where > they > > > > provide > > > > > services like internet security and search engine optimization and > > > > what not and > > > > > making a lot of money. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, if we look at it this way, I don’t think that it is > > > >  " pervertedâ€� > > > > > to expect a young man to make money. Having said that, I would like > to > > > > emphasize > > > > > that KP rules are time tested and if in one particular case the > rules > > > > do not appear to work then it is safe to assume that the problem might > > > > be due to some discrepancy > > > > > in the birth data.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sandeep > > > > > > ______________________________\ __ > See what's on at the movies in your area. 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Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Dear Sandeep ji, I agree to your present views whole heartedly, and also am not of the view to give any " Moral Policing " to anybody. As Astrologers we are here to help people . Yes, but how will you help somebody who is demanding money is a Mahadasha of Venus, just because Venus signifies wealth in her boys chart, and that too at age between 5-25 where the last 5 years have been proven through the KP Significators as not yielding any significant returns in matters of wealth ? On top of this you are giving examples of celebrities who were normal people, which is a fact we all know. Not all celebritiesare born of Celebrities Parents is a known fact. But those whom you are talking about did jnot leave their studies and attain their heights. Did they ? You should have been instead explaining to that member not to look for absurd explanations as a good astrologer who is helping, rather you choose to display examples of celebrities who started earning at a young age. This was not warranted at all. This spoils the hard work of all explaning I did to that member. My son has just cleared his B.COM last year and doing CA. How do I expect him to earn lots of wealth now (He is also running venus with 2 and 5 as the activated houses), unless I allow him to leave his studies and enter the Entertainment Field, Films or the Stock Markets ? Should I go to an astrologer and ask him " Why is my son not earning good wealth when his Dasha says so " ? Sir we have to be practical in Life. best wishes, Bhaskar. , sandeep patel <sandeeppatel21 wrote: > > Dear Mr Bhaskar, > Since at the end of your message you wrote that " Any further discussions on this would be futile, as I see it. " I did not send a > rejoinder. > Anyway, if you read my message carefully, you will notice that nowhere have I said anything about Sachin Tendulkar's educational qualifications. But, everybody knows that he started playing for the country at the age of 16. > In response to my earlier message you had said, " We are normal people and talking about normal people and not celebrities. " > However, these young boys and girls are all 'normal people' when they start working. They, too, have their share of difficulties and setbacks. They, too, have their share of fears and insecurities. But despite these hurdles they achieve celebrity status through their talent and hard work. And instead of wagging our fingers in their faces and giving them lectures on morality the least we can do is to stand up and applaud their achievements. > I believe that as an astrologer, my job is to help and guide people using whatever little knowledge I have of astrology. I have no business to sit in judgement on their lives and I have no business taking a high moral ground. > But I realize that when temper is flying high, it is very difficult to be objective. > With Best Regards,Sandeep > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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