Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 In an initial observation of death-causing DBA of 40 notable horoscopes, the KP death rule is found working, i.e. signification of 6H by any of DBA is 35/40 --- 75%, 8H connection is 62% --- 12H involvement is 70% in any level of dasa, ----- of course Maraka (2 or 7H) at top with 90%, and Badhaka 72% but finding a common transit pattern is difficult test; the same is with pin pointing of DBA in death prediction. KP Death Rule 1. " Death is indicated only by the significators of marakasthana and badhakasthana. " (KP READER VI ,1978/2002 p 155; also repeated in K. Hariharan: LONGEVITY,1986 p 36/50) 2. Death comes during the conjoined period of significtors of Badhaka, Maraka, Moksha (and 10th=retirement from the world or life, 4th= end of everything/life in some cases) in KP literature with practical examples as given below. 1) KP READER III OE Part 2, p 9-11 (NE p 161-3) 2) KP READER VI ,1978/2002 p 155-7/160 3) ASTROSECRECTS & KP Part II, 2003, p 269-70 under " The Horoscope of Prof. KS Krishnamurti " 4) ASTROSECRECTS & KP Part III, 2002, p 148-9 under " KP Explains Death " 5) Chandrakant R. Bhatt: NAKSHATRA CHINTAMANI , p 12/ 22/ 64 6) Chandrakant R. Bhatt: FURTHER LIGHTS ON NAKSHATRA CHINTAMANI , p 11/ 214 7) K. Subramanium: MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL, 2005, P 130 last para 8) K. Hariharan: LONGEVITY,1986 (20 Example Death charts including John F Kennedy) 9) Y S N Murty: KP & ASTRLOGY, Year Book 1995 p 12 ( A case of Cancer) 10) Bal Krishna Singh: KP & ASTRLOGY, Year Book 1995 p 58 (Death of Tantrik- K.P. Explains) 11) T V Ramaswamy: KP & ASTRLOGY, Year Book 1996 p 154-5 (Unnatural Death Due to Accident – an Analysis) 12) K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi: KP & ASTRLOGY, Year Book 2001 p 49-50 (Twin Births Proves That K.P. System is The Only System Useful in Predictive Astrology) 13) Dr. K R Kar: KP & ASTRLOGY, Year Book 2001 p 34-5 (Life Ends as Expected) 14) Dr. Bal Krishna Singh: KP & ASTRLOGY, Year Book 2004 p 19 (Father Praying for Death of Son) 15) Prof. Vaikari Ramamurthy: KP & ASTRLOGY, Year Book 2005 p 5 (Longevity- How to Judge?) 16) Subhash Nair: KP & ASTRLOGY, Year Book 2006 p 76 and 80 (Longevity-Study of KP Horary Chart) 17) Kanak: LONGEVUTY RELATED in file section of this group (under DEATH) , " Khas " <caspal_1 wrote: > > Dear TW > > Thanks for going through my message. I think you would have noticed that in my message, I quoted a word " meeting of Dasa lord to some Specific Conditions " in Khullar's Sub Sub Method -- for birth of child or death of native or death of native's father etc. Not only Dasa Lord should meet " Specific Conditions " for enacting a particular event but transit of slow moving planets also to meet the some specific conditions coupled with promise of the that particular cuspal sub sub lord. For example, a person would have lost his father When Jupiter was transiting in Aquarius i.e. in the sign of Saturn. Then, why he has not lost his father when Jupiter transited in the Capricorn one year ago ,which is again the sign of Saturn. Further more, the same Jupiter must have transited 12 years back in the same Capricorn but at that time death has not taken place. If you point your finger at the Dasa lords, the Dasa lords were also significator for 4 and 9 in case of longer period ailment of the native's father. Further more, he has created a concept of Zero Longevity Chart (ZLC) which gives best explanation for " Still Born Baby " . In my opinion, I rate his theory as good and working as he has incorporated all the corrective measure for true prediction of an event. Still, I am not under-rating any other system but want to explain Why we can not switch over to a better thing which useful for today's requirement? > > Thanks > With regards, > K H A S > > > > TW <tw853@> > > > > Fri, 22 January, 2010 8:40:54 AM > > Re: khullar ayanamsa > > > > Â > > Dear Khas, > > Thank you for mentioning not serious difference in 'astrological principles' in KB and KCIL, other than the minor BTR supporting genetical connections which are also attempted in some BTR methods, > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 30596 > > and not so sure supplementary timing of death which takes several strong aspects to cook the goose, astrologically speaking, as said by Judith Hill in 'Medical Astrology,'( Stellium Press, 2004, pp 108-111), giving 25 transits of death. > > Thanks and regards, > > TW > > > > @gro ups.com, " Khas " <caspal_1@ .> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear TW and friends, > > > > > > " By Sound Astrological Principle " , I mean for example: > > > > > > According to the fundamental principle of astrology, an event takes place only when Sun and Moon occupy a particular zodiacal position. Corresponding to this position, due to interaction of Sun and Moon, an Ascendant is formed. Now birth of human being is an event in the life of father. Father is represented by 9th house/cusp in the native's chart. To rectify a chart, Mr. Khullar says that the position of Moon at the time of birth has to be coruled by those planets which are strong significators of 1,7 and 10 ( 2, 5 and 11 with respect to 9th house). > > > > > > Similarly, in a chart, all the 9 planets may be significators of death. But death takes place only in a particular Dasa. Mr. Khullar has given specific conditions which the Dasa Lord should meet to cause death. Similarly, at the time of death, Saturn transit only in a particular sign, the lord of which should justify some specific conditions. Similarly, at the time of birth of a child Moon Star Lord of the child has to satisfy certain conditions and also be a strong significator of 2,5 and 11 in the chart of the father or mother (for first child). > > > > > > Similarly, at the time of death, the star lord of the Moon has to satisfy certain specific conditions and also has to be a strong significator of death. All these things are explained by him in his books especially in his latest book Key to Lean Sub Sub and Cuspal Inter Link Theory. > > > > > > A dedicated astrologer who reads his books can easily understand the specific conditions mentioned by him based on the sound principles of astrology. His books are published by M/s. Sagar Publications , New Delhi > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > KHAS > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " TW " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Could you kindly elaborate what " sound astrologically concepts " in KCIL, not included in KB? Pl be specific to understand what do you mean. > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > TW > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Khas " <caspal_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramani > > > > > > > > > > The difference between Khullar System and Baskar System is not only usuage of Sub Sub and Sub, Khullar system handles each thing using sound astrologically concepts > > > > > > > > > > Khullar Books are available with M/s. Sagar Publication, Janpath, Behind Bank of Baroda Building, New Delhi.. It is also available in Chennai at Mylapore area. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Khas > > > > > @gro ups.com, " TW " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Ramani ji, > > > > > > The main difference is using cuspal interlinks by 'sub' in KB and 'sub sub' in KCIL. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > TW > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kadavasalramani " <kadavasalramani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri TWji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand that Shri Khullar has published Cuspal Interlink > > > > > > > system. Is it replica of KB System by Shri K.Baskaran > > > > > > > of Madurai or it is different. Could you find out any difference between the two, Sir? Where this book is > > > > > > > available? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > TW > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 9:40 PM > > > > > > > Re: khullar ayanamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khullar Ayanamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. The Khullar Ayanamsa is generally calculated by the following formula: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*((YR- 292)+(261/ 365)+(((MN- 1)*30+DY) /365)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YR stands for year > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MN stands for Month > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DY stands for Day > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. It is generally the same as the KP straight line (Adjusted) Ayanamsa (KPSTLA) which is supported by KPAstro initial version to 3.5. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KPSTLA = T*P/3600 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > > > > > > > T = Year for calculation - 291 (zero ayanamsa year for KP Ayanamsa) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P = Newcomb's annual precession rate = 50.2388475 sec (for KP Ayanamsa) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Note: For T as a fractional/decimal year taking days between required date and 15th April, it gives up to date ayanamsa value. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 30575 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. For example, for Tony Blair DOB May 6th 1953, Khullar ayanamsa 23:11:40 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.scribd. com/doc/6748971/ Blair-> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.1. AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*((YR- 292)+(261/ 365)+(((MN- 1)*30+DY) /365)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (YR-292)+(261/ 365) = (1953-292)+0. 715068= 1639.715068 i.e. as the original formula gives the value for April 15, one more year than 291 is subtracted and then 261/365 for April 15 to December 31 is added in order to get January 1st value.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > {(MN-1)*30+DY) }/365= {(5-1)*30+6} /365=126/ 365=0.345205, i.e. the decimal year from January 1st to May 6th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1639.715068+ 0.345205= 1.060273 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AyanKP = (50.2388475/ 3600)*(1. 060273)= 23:11:40 (Khullar ayanamsa) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.2. KPSTLA = T*P/3600 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.2.1. (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662*50.2388475/ 3600=23:11: 37 for April 15th 1953 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ayanamsa value for April 15th to May 6th= 50.2388475 (21/365)= 3 sec > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KPSTLA = 23:11:37 + 00:00:03= 23:11:40 for May 6th 1953 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.2.2. By taking a decimal year from April 15th to May 6th (1662+21/365= 1662.0575) , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KPSTLA = (1953-291)* 50.2388475/3600= 1662.0575*50. 2388475/3600= 23:11:40 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.. Comparison of Ayanamsa Values (As of 1st Jan in D-M-S) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Year > > > > > > > KPNA > > > > > > > KPSTLA > > > > > > > LAHIRI* > > > > > > > KPSTLA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KPNA > > > > > > > Lahiri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > STLA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1000 > > > > > > > 09-50-25 > > > > > > > 09-53-25 > > > > > > > 09-55-12 > > > > > > > 0-3-00 > > > > > > > 0-1-47 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1800 > > > > > > > 20-58-33 > > > > > > > 21-03-16 > > > > > > > 21-03-45 > > > > > > > 0-4-43 > > > > > > > 0-0-29 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1850 > > > > > > > 21-40-24 > > > > > > > 21-45-08 > > > > > > > 21-45-37 > > > > > > > 0-4-44 > > > > > > > 0-0-29 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1900 > > > > > > > 22-22 16 > > > > > > > 22-27-00 > > > > > > > 22-27-56 > > > > > > > 0-4-44 > > > > > > > 0-0-56 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1950 > > > > > > > 23-04-08 > > > > > > > 23-08-52 > > > > > > > 23-09-27 > > > > > > > 0-4-48 > > > > > > > 0-0-35 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2000 > > > > > > > 23-46-01 > > > > > > > 23-50-44 > > > > > > > 23-51-11 > > > > > > > 0-4-43 > > > > > > > 0-0-27 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2010 > > > > > > > 23-54-23 > > > > > > > 23-59-21 > > > > > > > 24-00-04 > > > > > > > 0-4-58 > > > > > > > 0-1-43 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3000 > > > > > > > 37-45-33 > > > > > > > 37-48-03 > > > > > > > 37-51-26 > > > > > > > 0-2-30 > > > > > > > 0-3-23 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KPNA = KP New Ayanamsa of 2003 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * As per Astraura SW > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Note: KPSTLA or Khullar Ayanamsa is closed to Lahiri but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not to KPNA or KPOA (KP Old Ayanamsa). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. The Khullar Ayanamsa is now an option in Astracadabra and KCIL supporting True Astrology SW. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. This ayanamsa may be added to the list of ayanamsas in the Web and SWs: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aldebaran, Babylonian (Huber), Babylonian (Kugler 1), Babylonian (Kugler 2), Babylonian (Kugler 3), Babylonian (Mercia), JN Bhasin, Chandra-Hiri, DeLuce, Deva-datta, Dhira, Djwhal Khoo (Khul), Drik (Thiru Ganithan), Fagan-Bradley (Fagan), Galactic Center, Hipparchos, Jagannatha, Krushna, KP (Krishnamurti) , KP Straight Line, KP Straight Line (Adjusted), Lahiri (Chitrapaksha) , True Chitrapaksha, Larry Ely, Raman , Rosicrucian, Savana, Sassanian, Takra I, Takra II, Usha-Shashi, Tarun Chopra, Yuketswar, Mod. Yuketswar, Vakya, Wilhelm Ardra, zeta Pisces,... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " Amit " <amitchauhan05@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > respected Tin Win ji and other members, > > > > > > > > today i was going through an article on btr by s.p. khullar on the net and found it little interesting but in the example given he had used khullar ayanamsa which is not given in my s/w. kindly throw some light as to how to custumize this ayanamsa (what value to deduct/add from kpna) for calculation purpose. Thanks in advance > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ __ > > 7: Catch-up on your favourite Channel 7 TV shows easily, legally, and for free at PLUS7. www.tv..au/plus7 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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