Fw: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

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Dear Ramani, My neice got married on March2,2006 at Delhi Time 0910 hrs. The child to be born ,would be her first child. BTR was not found necessary,in my opinion as lagna sublord Merc was related to Moon. Regards, Satish. --- On Mon, 1/25/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani wrote:kadavasalramani <kadavasalramaniFw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 12:01 PM

 

 



Dear Satishji,

 

I presume that it is her 1st delivery. Have you rectified Birth

time? When was her marriage?

 

With best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

- R Satish

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 22, 2010 1:18 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Dear TW,

 

This group's attempt is to predict the gender, a path which KSK avoided.

 

My neice's case is an oppurtunity:

 

1. to list and apply the various formulae for gender identification.

 

2. to predict the date of the birth of the child waiting to be born.

 

 

I am waiting for our friends to avail this chance to move forward.It does not

 

really matter if you are off the mark.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comThursday, January 21, 2010, 11:10 PM

Dear Satish,Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards,TW@gro ups.com, R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote:>>  Dear Friends,>  >                      For those interested in trying their hand , in a live case study.>  >  My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.>  >  Birth details May 29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar). >  >  1. When will she deliver?>  >  2. What will be the gender of the child?>  >     I failed,so I request the group.>  >         Regards,>  >           Satish>  > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14 PM> > >  > > > > Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) > Child Gender Prediction Analysis> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1> I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...> KP Reader IV p 236 last para> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir &  Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.> > > > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)> > Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In "Astrololgy & Atrishta" magazine April 1980.> > 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> >   > >  > > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> >                                                                           à ‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > >  > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> >  > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > >  > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> >  (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> >  (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > >  > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> >  Set - 2> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> >  and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> >  > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:> >  > >  > > Set - I> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> >  My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and  whose lord is situated in a male sign or in female sign.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > @gro ups.com> > Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> > > >  > > Dear Mishra ji,> > //Respected Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime.I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying  gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /> > Kind Sir..> > I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...> > In your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the "already born".> > I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..> > Again even if you like to test the "already tested" rules, on persons who have been "already born", may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> >  > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark. > > > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country. > > > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > > > Sorry please ignore my mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. > > > > > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Seniors,> > > >                              I have read some where that :> > > >                                                                        (1)Gender of native can be identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.> > > >                                                                        (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.> > > >                                                                        (3) I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> > > >                                                                           à ‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > > > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> > > > Set - 2> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:> > > > > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > > > > Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Satish,

 

Can you please also share husband's birth details?

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:22 AM, R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Dear Ramani,

                       My neice got married on March2,2006 at Delhi Time 0910 hrs. The child to be born ,would be her first child. BTR was not found necessary,in my opinion as lagna sublord Merc was related to Moon.

 

                       Regards,

 

                       Satish.

 

                           --- On Mon, 1/25/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani wrote:

kadavasalramani <kadavasalramaniFw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 12:01 PM

 

 



Dear Satishji,

 

I presume that it is her 1st delivery.  Have you rectified Birth

time? When was her marriage?

 

With best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

 

- R Satish

 

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 22, 2010 1:18 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   Dear TW,

 

                     This group's attempt is to predict the gender, a path which KSK avoided.

 

                     My neice's case is an oppurtunity:

 

                    1. to list and apply the various formulae for gender identification.

 

                    2. to predict the date of the birth of the child waiting to be born.

 

 

                    I am waiting for our friends to avail this chance to move forward.It does not

 

                    really matter if you are off the mark.

 

 

 

                   Regards,

 

                    Satish

 

                 --- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

 

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.com

 

Thursday, January 21, 2010, 11:10 PM

 

Dear Satish,Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.

Regards,TW@gro ups.com, R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote:

>>   Dear Friends,>  >                       For those interested  in trying their hand  , in  a  live case study.>  >   My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.

>  >  Birth details May 29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar). >  >  1. When will she deliver?>  >  2. What will be the gender of the child?>  >       I failed,so I request the group.

>  >          Regards,>  >           Satish>  > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853

> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> @gro ups.com

> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14 PM> > >   > > > > Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) > Child Gender Prediction Analysis> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1

> I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...> KP Reader IV p 236 last para> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir &  Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)

> > (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.

> > > > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)

> > Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In " Astrololgy & Atrishta " magazine April 1980.

> > 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> >   > >  

> > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are  born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:

> >                                                                           à ‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. 

> >  > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> >  > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  

> >  > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> >  (3)  7-10-1972 12:30AM> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM

> >  (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> >  (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > >  > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: 

> > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> >  Set - 2> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> >  and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)

> >  > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:> >  > >  > > Set - I

> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM      Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> >  (3)  7-10-1972 12:30AM    Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> >  > > Set - 2

> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM   Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM   Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM   Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) 

> > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM   Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> >  My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and  whose lord is situated in a male sign or in  female sign.

> > > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

> > @gro ups.com> > Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

> > > >   > > Dear Mishra ji,> > //Respected Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime.I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying  gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /

> > Kind Sir..> > I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...> > In your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the " already born " .

> > I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..> > Again even if you like to test the  " already tested " rules, on persons who have been " already born " , may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?

> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> >  > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark.

> > > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country.

> > > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > > > Sorry please ignore my mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage.

> > > > > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:

> > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Seniors,> > > >                               I have read some where that :

> > > >                                                                         (1)Gender of native can be identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.

> > > >                                                                         (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.

> > > >                                                                         (3) I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are  born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:

> > > >                                                                           à ‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother.

> > > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  

> > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > > (3)  7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > > > Set - 2

> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM 

> > > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)

> > > > Set - 2> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:

> > > > > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM      Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > > (3)  7-10-1972 12:30AM    Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)

> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM   Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM   Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)

> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM   Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM   Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > > > > Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.

> > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Satish,

 

Your niece is expected to deliver a baby child after May 2010. Is it true ?

 

The delivery might be caesarean.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Tue, 26/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote:

R Satish <rsatish1942Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother Date: Tuesday, 26 January, 2010, 11:22 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramani,

 

My neice got married on March2,2006 at Delhi Time 0910 hrs. The child to be born ,would be her first child. BTR was not found necessary,in my opinion as lagna sublord Merc was related to Moon.

 

Regards,

 

Satish.

 

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comMonday, January 25, 2010, 12:01 PM



Dear Satishji,

 

I presume that it is her 1st delivery. Have you rectified Birth

time? When was her marriage?

 

With best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

- R Satish

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 22, 2010 1:18 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Dear TW,

 

This group's attempt is to predict the gender, a path which KSK avoided.

 

My neice's case is an oppurtunity:

 

1. to list and apply the various formulae for gender identification.

 

2. to predict the date of the birth of the child waiting to be born.

 

 

I am waiting for our friends to avail this chance to move forward.It does not

 

really matter if you are off the mark.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comThursday, January 21, 2010, 11:10 PM

Dear Satish,Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards,TW@gro ups.com, R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote:>>  Dear Friends,>  >                      For those interested in trying their hand , in a live case study.>  >  My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.>  >  Birth details May

29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar). >  >  1. When will she deliver?>  >  2. What will be the gender of the child?>  >     I failed,so I request the group.>  >         Regards,>  >           Satish>  > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14

PM> > >  > > > > Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) > Child Gender Prediction Analysis> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1> I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...> KP Reader IV p 236 last para> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir &  Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in

a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.> > > > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)> > Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In "Astrololgy & Atrishta" magazine April 1980.> > 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> >   > >  > > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth

chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > >  > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> >  > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > >  > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> >

 (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> >  (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> >  (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > >  > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> >  Set - 2> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> >  and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> >  > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis

is given against their birth particulars:> >  > >  > > Set - I> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> >  My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified

time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and  whose lord is situated in a male sign or in female sign.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > @gro ups.com> > Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> > > >  > > Dear Mishra ji,> > //Respected Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly

who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime.I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying  gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /> > Kind Sir..> > I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...> > In

your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the "already born".> > I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..> > Again even if you like to test the "already tested" rules, on persons who have been "already born", may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> >  > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what

purposeto serve again is another question mark. > > > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country. > > > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > > > Sorry please ignore my mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. > > > > > > best wishes,> > >

Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Seniors,> > > >                              I have read some where that :> > > >

                                                                       (1)Gender of native can be

identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.> > > >

                                                                       (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of

the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.> > > >

                                                                       (3) I have been challenged by some one

& given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> > > >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > > > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM>

> > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> > > > Set - 2> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given

against their birth particulars:> > > > > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > > >

> Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Satish,

Pl. ignore my earlier mail...you have given all the info I require in your mail to TW...

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R Satish <rsatish1942 Sent: Tue, 26 January, 2010 11:22:14 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramani,

 

My neice got married on March2,2006 at Delhi Time 0910 hrs. The child to be born ,would be her first child. BTR was not found necessary,in my opinion as lagna sublord Merc was related to Moon.

 

Regards,

 

Satish.

 

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comMonday, January 25, 2010, 12:01 PM



Dear Satishji,

 

I presume that it is her 1st delivery. Have you rectified Birth

time? When was her marriage?

 

With best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

- R Satish

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 22, 2010 1:18 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Dear TW,

 

This group's attempt is to predict the gender, a path which KSK avoided.

 

My neice's case is an oppurtunity:

 

1. to list and apply the various formulae for gender identification.

 

2. to predict the date of the birth of the child waiting to be born.

 

 

I am waiting for our friends to avail this chance to move forward.It does not

 

really matter if you are off the mark.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comThursday, January 21, 2010, 11:10 PM

Dear Satish,Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards,TW@gro ups.com, R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote:>>  Dear Friends,>  >                      For those interested in trying their hand , in a live case study.>  >  My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.>  >  Birth details May

29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar). >  >  1. When will she deliver?>  >  2. What will be the gender of the child?>  >     I failed,so I request the group.>  >         Regards,>  >           Satish>  > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14

PM> > >  > > > > Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) > Child Gender Prediction Analysis> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1> I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...> KP Reader IV p 236 last para> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir &  Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in

a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.> > > > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)> > Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In "Astrololgy & Atrishta" magazine April 1980.> > 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> >   > >  > > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth

chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > >  > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> >  > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > >  > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> >

 (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> >  (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> >  (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > >  > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> >  Set - 2> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> >  and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> >  > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis

is given against their birth particulars:> >  > >  > > Set - I> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> >  My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified

time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and  whose lord is situated in a male sign or in female sign.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > @gro ups.com> > Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> > > >  > > Dear Mishra ji,> > //Respected Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly

who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime.I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying  gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /> > Kind Sir..> > I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...> > In

your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the "already born".> > I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..> > Again even if you like to test the "already tested" rules, on persons who have been "already born", may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> >  > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what

purposeto serve again is another question mark. > > > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country. > > > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > > > Sorry please ignore my mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. > > > > > > best wishes,> > >

Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Seniors,> > > >                              I have read some where that :> > > >

                                                                       (1)Gender of native can be

identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.> > > >

                                                                       (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of

the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.> > > >

                                                                       (3) I have been challenged by some one

& given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> > > >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > > > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM>

> > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> > > > Set - 2> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given

against their birth particulars:> > > > > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > > >

> Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > >> >>

 

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Hi Everybody and my group members. After rectification I got the birth timings as 10:45:25am and as per my judgement the native would deliver on 3rd. March 2010 a female child.

Naresh Valecha--- On Tue, 26/1/10, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitpRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother Date: Tuesday, 26 January, 2010, 11:33 AM

 

Dear Satish,

 

Can you please also share husband's birth details?

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:22 AM, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramani,

My neice got married on March2,2006 at Delhi Time 0910 hrs. The child to be born ,would be her first child. BTR was not found necessary,in my opinion as lagna sublord Merc was related to Moon.

 

Regards,

 

Satish.

 

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother @gro ups.comMonday, January 25, 2010, 12:01 PM

 



Dear Satishji,

 

I presume that it is her 1st delivery. Have you rectified Birth

time? When was her marriage?

 

With best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

 

- R Satish

 

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 22, 2010 1:18 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear TW,

 

This group's attempt is to predict the gender, a path which KSK avoided.

 

My neice's case is an oppurtunity:

 

1. to list and apply the various formulae for gender identification.

 

2. to predict the date of the birth of the child waiting to be born.

 

 

I am waiting for our friends to avail this chance to move forward.It does not

 

really matter if you are off the mark.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

 

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.com

 

Thursday, January 21, 2010, 11:10 PM

Dear Satish,Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards,TW@gro ups.com, R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote:>>  Dear Friends,>  >                      For those interested in trying their hand , in a live case study.>  >  My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.>  >  Birth details May

29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar). >  >  1. When will she deliver?>  >  2. What will be the gender of the child?>  >     I failed,so I request the group.>  >         Regards,>  >           Satish>  > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14

PM> > >  > > > > Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) > Child Gender Prediction Analysis> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1> I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...> KP Reader IV p 236 last para> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir &  Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.> > > > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)> > Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In "Astrololgy & Atrishta" magazine April 1980.> > 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> >   > >

 > > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > >  > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> >  > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > >  > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> >

 (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> >  (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> >  (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > >  > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> >  Set - 2> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> >  and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> >  > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis

is given against their birth particulars:> >  > >  > > Set - I> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> >  My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified

time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and  whose lord is situated in a male sign or in female sign.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > @gro ups.com> > Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> > > >  > > Dear Mishra ji,> >

//Respected Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime.I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying  gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /> > Kind Sir..> > I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra

ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...> > In your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the "already born".> > I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..> > Again even if you like to test the "already tested" rules, on persons who have been "already born", may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> >  > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for

research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark. > > > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country. > > > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > > > Sorry please ignore my

mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. > > > > > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Seniors,> > > >                              I have read some where that :> > > >

                                                                       (1)Gender of native can be

identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.> > > >

                                                                       (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of

the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.> > > >

                                                                       (3) I have been challenged by some one

& given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> > > >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > > > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM>

> > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> > > > Set - 2> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given

against their birth particulars:> > > > > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > > >

> Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > >> >>

 

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Dear Ramesh, The child is expected to be born any time now.Ceasarian or not ,time will tell. Thank you for your effort. Regards, Satish--- On Tue, 1/26/10, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002Re: Fw:

Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 12:37 PM

 

 

Dear Satish,

 

Your niece is expected to deliver a baby child after May 2010. Is it true ?

 

The delivery might be caesarean.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Tue, 26/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comTuesday, 26 January, 2010, 11:22 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramani,

 

My neice got married on March2,2006 at Delhi Time 0910 hrs. The child to be born ,would be her first child. BTR was not found necessary,in my opinion as lagna sublord Merc was related to Moon.

 

Regards,

 

Satish.

 

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comMonday, January 25, 2010, 12:01 PM



Dear Satishji,

 

I presume that it is her 1st delivery. Have you rectified Birth

time? When was her marriage?

 

With best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

- R Satish

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 22, 2010 1:18 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Dear TW,

 

This group's attempt is to predict the gender, a path which KSK avoided.

 

My neice's case is an oppurtunity:

 

1. to list and apply the various formulae for gender identification.

 

2. to predict the date of the birth of the child waiting to be born.

 

 

I am waiting for our friends to avail this chance to move forward.It does not

 

really matter if you are off the mark.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comThursday, January 21, 2010, 11:10 PM

Dear Satish,Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards,TW@gro ups.com, R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote:>>  Dear Friends,>  >                      For those interested in trying their hand , in a live case study.>  >  My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.>  >  Birth details May

29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar). >  >  1. When will she deliver?>  >  2. What will be the gender of the child?>  >     I failed,so I request the group.>  >         Regards,>  >           Satish>  > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14

PM> > >  > > > > Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) > Child Gender Prediction Analysis> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1> I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...> KP Reader IV p 236 last para> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir &  Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child;

if in

a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.> > > > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)> > Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In "Astrololgy & Atrishta" magazine April 1980.> > 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> >   > >  > > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the

birth

chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > >  > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> >  > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > >  > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> >

 (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> >  (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> >  (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > >  > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> >  Set - 2> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> >  and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> >  > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis

is given against their birth particulars:> >  > >  > > Set - I> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> >  My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified

time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and  whose lord is situated in a male sign or in female sign.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > @gro ups.com> > Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> > > >  > > Dear Mishra ji,> > //Respected Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly

who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime.I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying  gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /> > Kind Sir..> > I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...> > In

your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the "already born".> > I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..> > Again even if you like to test the "already tested" rules, on persons who have been "already born", may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> >  > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what

purposeto serve again is another question mark. > > > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country. > > > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > > > Sorry please ignore my mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. > > > > > > best wishes,> > >

Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Seniors,> > > >                              I have read some where that :> > > >

                                                                       (1)Gender of native can be

identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.> > > >

                                                                       (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of

the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.> > > >

                                                                       (3) I have been challenged by some one

& given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> > > >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > > > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM>

> > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> > > > Set - 2> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given

against their birth particulars:> > > > > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > > >

> Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > >> >>

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Hi Satish, If u say the child is to be born in a couple of days then the earliest possible time as per RP's is when Moon transits in its own sign Cancer in the Star-Sub of Mercury and its a Saturday. Mars being in Cancer too with Moon on that day indicates a caesarion birth of a female child.

Naresh Valecha--- On Wed, 27/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote:

R Satish <rsatish1942Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother Date: Wednesday, 27 January, 2010, 11:04 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh,

 

The child is expected to be born any time now.Ceasarian or not ,time will tell.

Thank you for your effort.

 

Regards,

 

Satish--- On Tue, 1/26/10, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote:

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in>Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comTuesday, January 26, 2010, 12:37 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Satish,

 

Your niece is expected to deliver a baby child after May 2010. Is it true ?

 

The delivery might be caesarean.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Tue, 26/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comTuesday, 26 January, 2010, 11:22 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramani,

My neice got married on March2,2006 at Delhi Time 0910 hrs. The child to be born ,would be her first child. BTR was not found necessary,in my opinion as lagna sublord Merc was related to Moon.

 

Regards,

 

Satish.

 

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comMonday, January 25, 2010, 12:01 PM



Dear Satishji,

 

I presume that it is her 1st delivery. Have you rectified Birth

time? When was her marriage?

 

With best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

- R Satish

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 22, 2010 1:18 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Dear TW,

 

This group's attempt is to predict the gender, a path which KSK avoided.

 

My neice's case is an oppurtunity:

 

1. to list and apply the various formulae for gender identification.

 

2. to predict the date of the birth of the child waiting to be born.

 

 

I am waiting for our friends to avail this chance to move forward.It does not

 

really matter if you are off the mark.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comThursday, January 21, 2010, 11:10 PM

Dear Satish,Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards,TW@gro ups.com, R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote:>>  Dear Friends,>  >                      For those interested in trying their hand , in a live case study.>  >  My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.>  >  Birth details May

29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar). >  >  1. When will she deliver?>  >  2. What will be the gender of the child?>  >     I failed,so I request the group.>  >         Regards,>  >           Satish>  > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14

PM> > >  > > > > Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) > Child Gender Prediction Analysis> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1> I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...> KP Reader IV p 236 last para> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir &  Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in

a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.> > > > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)> > Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In "Astrololgy & Atrishta" magazine April 1980.> > 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> >   > >  > > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth

chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > >  > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> >  > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > >  > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> >

 (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> >  (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> >  (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > >  > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> >  Set - 2> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> >  and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> >  > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis

is given against their birth particulars:> >  > >  > > Set - I> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> >  My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified

time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and  whose lord is situated in a male sign or in female sign.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > @gro ups.com> > Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> > > >  > > Dear Mishra ji,> > //Respected Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly

who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime.I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying  gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /> > Kind Sir..> > I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...> > In

your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the "already born".> > I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..> > Again even if you like to test the "already tested" rules, on persons who have been "already born", may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> >  > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what

purposeto serve again is another question mark. > > > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country. > > > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > > > Sorry please ignore my mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. > > > > > > best wishes,> > >

Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Seniors,> > > >                              I have read some where that :> > > >

                                                                       (1)Gender of native can be

identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.> > > >

                                                                       (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of

the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.> > > >

                                                                       (3) I have been challenged by some one

& given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> > > >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > > > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM>

> > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> > > > Set - 2> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given

against their birth particulars:> > > > > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > > >

> Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > >> >>

 

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5th house sgl ma, stl me, sl me

ma stl ve sl mo, me st mo sl ra

me 5th CSL (10-3,12)stl mo(12,1), sl ra (2 (sgn su 10,2)), conj su (10,2), ve (10-4,11), aspected by sa in 1-7,8, ra in 2

 

12 and 8 house involved so possibility of caesarean is there

 

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Naresh Valecha <superstaar_n_v wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Satish, If u say the child is to be born in a couple of days then the earliest possible time as per RP's is when Moon transits in its own sign Cancer in the Star-Sub of Mercury and its a Saturday. Mars being in Cancer too with Moon on that day indicates a caesarion birth of a female child.

Naresh Valecha --- On Wed, 27/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote:

 

R Satish <rsatish1942Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

Date: Wednesday, 27 January, 2010, 11:04 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

   Dear Ramesh,

                         The child is expected to be born any time now.Ceasarian or not ,time will tell.

                        Thank you for your effort.

 

                        Regards,

 

 

                         Satish--- On Tue, 1/26/10, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote:

 

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in>Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

@gro ups.comTuesday, January 26, 2010, 12:37 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Satish,

 

Your niece is expected to deliver a baby child after May 2010. Is it true ?

 

The delivery might be caesarean.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Tue, 26/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

 

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

@gro ups.comTuesday, 26 January, 2010, 11:22 AM

 

 

 

 

 

    Dear Ramani,

                       My neice got married on March2,2006 at Delhi Time 0910 hrs. The child to be born ,would be her first child. BTR was not found necessary,in my opinion as lagna sublord Merc was related to Moon.

 

                       Regards,

 

                       Satish.

 

                           --- On Mon, 1/25/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

@gro ups.comMonday, January 25, 2010, 12:01 PM

 



Dear Satishji,

 

I presume that it is her 1st delivery.  Have you rectified Birth

time? When was her marriage?

 

With best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

- R Satish

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 22, 2010 1:18 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

 

   Dear TW,

 

                     This group's attempt is to predict the gender, a path which KSK avoided.

 

                     My neice's case is an oppurtunity:

 

                    1. to list and apply the various formulae for gender identification.

 

                    2. to predict the date of the birth of the child waiting to be born.

 

 

                    I am waiting for our friends to avail this chance to move forward.It does not

 

                    really matter if you are off the mark.

 

 

 

                   Regards,

 

                    Satish

 

                 --- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

@gro ups.comThursday, January 21, 2010, 11:10 PM

 

Dear Satish,Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.

Regards,TW@gro ups.com, R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote:

>>   Dear Friends,>  >                       For those interested  in trying their hand  , in  a  live case study.>  >   My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.

>  >  Birth details May 29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar). >  >  1. When will she deliver?>  >  2. What will be the gender of the child?>  >       I failed,so I request the group.

>  >          Regards,>  >           Satish>  > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853

> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> @gro ups.com

> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14 PM> > >   > > > > Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) > Child Gender Prediction Analysis> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1

> I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...> KP Reader IV p 236 last para> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir &  Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)

> > (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.

> > > > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)

> > Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In " Astrololgy & Atrishta " magazine April 1980.

> > 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> >   > >  

> > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are  born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:

> >                                                                           à ‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. 

> >  > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> >  > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  

> >  > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> >  (3)  7-10-1972 12:30AM> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM

> >  (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> >  (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > >  > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: 

> > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> >  Set - 2> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> >  and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)

> >  > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:> >  > >  > > Set - I

> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM      Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> >  (3)  7-10-1972 12:30AM    Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> >  > > Set - 2

> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM   Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM   Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM   Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) 

> > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM   Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> >  My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and  whose lord is situated in a male sign or in  female sign.

> > > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

> > @gro ups.com> > Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

> > > >   > > Dear Mishra ji,> > //Respected Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime.I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying  gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /

> > Kind Sir..> > I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...> > In your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the " already born " .

> > I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..> > Again even if you like to test the  " already tested " rules, on persons who have been " already born " , may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?

> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> >  > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark.

> > > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country.

> > > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > > > Sorry please ignore my mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage.

> > > > > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:

> > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Seniors,> > > >                               I have read some where that :

> > > >                                                                         (1)Gender of native can be identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.

> > > >                                                                         (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.

> > > >                                                                         (3) I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are  born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:

> > > >                                                                           à ‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother.

> > > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  

> > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > > (3)  7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > > > Set - 2

> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM 

> > > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)

> > > > Set - 2> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:

> > > > > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM      Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > > (3)  7-10-1972 12:30AM    Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)

> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM   Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM   Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)

> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM   Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM   Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > > > > Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.

> > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > >> >>

 

 

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On the basis of Ruling Planets, I arrived at the date 31st Jan,2010 for the delivery.Thechild will be a female baby. Let us await the results! G.Subramanian --- On Wed, 1/27/10, DrAnjna Agarwal <anu0562 wrote:DrAnjna Agarwal <anu0562Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to

identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother , "R Satish" <rsatish1942Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 8:10 PM

 

 

Female child till 2/02/2010 sa-ju-ju-ra- sat

 

5th house sgl ma, stl me, sl me

ma stl ve sl mo, me st mo sl ra

me 5th CSL (10-3,12)stl mo(12,1), sl ra (2 (sgn su 10,2)), conj su (10,2), ve (10-4,11), aspected by sa in 1-7,8, ra in 2

 

12 and 8 house involved so possibility of caesarean is there

 

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Naresh Valecha <superstaar_n_ v wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Satish, If u say the child is to be born in a couple of days then the earliest possible time as per RP's is when Moon transits in its own sign Cancer in the Star-Sub of Mercury and its a Saturday. Mars being in Cancer too with Moon on that day indicates a caesarion birth of a female child.

Naresh Valecha --- On Wed, 27/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

 

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

@gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 11:04 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh,

The child is expected to be born any time now.Ceasarian or not ,time will tell.

Thank you for your effort.

 

Regards,

 

 

Satish--- On Tue, 1/26/10, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote:

 

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in>Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

@gro ups.comTuesday, January 26, 2010, 12:37 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Satish,

 

Your niece is expected to deliver a baby child after May 2010. Is it true ?

 

The delivery might be caesarean.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Tue, 26/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

 

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

@gro ups.comTuesday, 26 January, 2010, 11:22 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramani,

My neice got married on March2,2006 at Delhi Time 0910 hrs. The child to be born ,would be her first child. BTR was not found necessary,in my opinion as lagna sublord Merc was related to Moon.

 

Regards,

 

Satish.

 

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

@gro ups.comMonday, January 25, 2010, 12:01 PM



Dear Satishji,

 

I presume that it is her 1st delivery. Have you rectified Birth

time? When was her marriage?

 

With best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

- R Satish

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 22, 2010 1:18 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Dear TW,

 

This group's attempt is to predict the gender, a path which KSK avoided.

 

My neice's case is an oppurtunity:

 

1. to list and apply the various formulae for gender identification.

 

2. to predict the date of the birth of the child waiting to be born.

 

 

I am waiting for our friends to avail this chance to move forward.It does not

 

really matter if you are off the mark.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

@gro ups.comThursday, January 21, 2010, 11:10 PM

Dear Satish,Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.

Regards,TW@gro ups.com, R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote:

>>  Dear Friends,>  >                      For those interested in trying their hand , in a live case study.>  >  My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.

>  >  Birth details May 29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar). >  >  1. When will she deliver?>  >  2. What will be the gender of the child?>  >     I failed,so I request the group.

> Â > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Regards,> Â > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Satish> Â > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853

> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> @gro ups.com

> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14 PM> > > Â > > > > Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) > Child Gender Prediction Analysis> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1

> I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...> KP Reader IV p 236 last para> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir &  Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)

> > (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.

> > > > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)

> > Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In "Astrololgy & Atrishta" magazine April 1980.

> > 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> >   > > ÂÂ

> > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:

> >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother.ÂÂ

> >  > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> >  > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala. ÂÂ

> >  > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM

> >  (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> >  (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > >  > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that:ÂÂ

> > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> >  Set - 2> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> >  and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)

> >  > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:> >  > >  > > Set - I

> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> >  > > Set - 2

> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM)ÂÂ

> > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> >  My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and  whose lord is situated in a male sign or in female sign.

> > > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

> > @gro ups.com> > Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

> > > >  > > Dear Mishra ji,> > //Respected Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime.I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying  gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /

> > Kind Sir..> > I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...> > In your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the "already born".

> > I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..> > Again even if you like to test the "already tested" rules, on persons who have been "already born", may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?

> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> >  > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark.

> > > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country.

> > > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > > > Sorry please ignore my mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage.

> > > > > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:

> > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Seniors,> > > >                              I have read some where that :

> > > >                                                                        (1)Gender of native can

be identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.

> > > >                                                                        (2)Secondly I have found

that sub lord of the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.

> > > >                                                                        (3) I have been

challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:

> > > >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother.

> > > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala. ÂÂ

> > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > > > Set - 2

> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PMÂÂ

> > > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)

> > > > Set - 2> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:

> > > > > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)

> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)

> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > > > > Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.

> > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > >> >>

 

 

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Dr.Anjana Agarwal Ji,How do you identify gender of unborn baby,if there is no perfect rule in this regard.You are requested to make it clear.This thread was opened by me but none of the members took interest to reveal perfect rule in this regard. Although I wanted to know perfect rules which indicate gender of native who are already born and whose birth charts are before us. TW JI has replied thus:Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards,TWDetermining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)[it is not found reliable] (Sunil Gondhalkar's method) If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.Some times 8 planets are found posited in same sign and then this rule will indicate a common result for all natives. With thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

DrAnjna Agarwal <anu0562 ; R Satish <rsatish1942Thu, January 28, 2010 7:40:00 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

Female child till 2/02/2010 sa-ju-ju-ra- sat

 

5th house sgl ma, stl me, sl me

ma stl ve sl mo, me st mo sl ra

me 5th CSL (10-3,12)stl mo(12,1), sl ra (2 (sgn su 10,2)), conj su (10,2), ve (10-4,11), aspected by sa in 1-7,8, ra in 2

 

12 and 8 house involved so possibility of caesarean is there

 

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Naresh Valecha <superstaar_n_ v wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Satish, If u say the child is to be born in a couple of days then the earliest possible time as per RP's is when Moon transits in its own sign Cancer in the Star-Sub of Mercury and its a Saturday. Mars being in Cancer too with Moon on that day indicates a caesarion birth of a female child.

Naresh Valecha --- On Wed, 27/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

 

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 11:04 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh,

The child is expected to be born any time now.Ceasarian or not ,time will tell.

Thank you for your effort.

 

Regards,

 

 

Satish--- On Tue, 1/26/10, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote:

 

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in>Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

@gro ups.comTuesday, January 26, 2010, 12:37 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Satish,

 

Your niece is expected to deliver a baby child after May 2010. Is it true ?

 

The delivery might be caesarean.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Tue, 26/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comTuesday, 26 January, 2010, 11:22 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramani,

My neice got married on March2,2006 at Delhi Time 0910 hrs. The child to be born ,would be her first child. BTR was not found necessary,in my opinion as lagna sublord Merc was related to Moon.

 

Regards,

 

Satish.

 

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comMonday, January 25, 2010, 12:01 PM



Dear Satishji,

 

I presume that it is her 1st delivery. Have you rectified Birth

time? When was her marriage?

 

With best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

- R Satish

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 22, 2010 1:18 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Dear TW,

 

This group's attempt is to predict the gender, a path which KSK avoided.

 

My neice's case is an oppurtunity:

 

1. to list and apply the various formulae for gender identification.

 

2. to predict the date of the birth of the child waiting to be born.

 

 

I am waiting for our friends to avail this chance to move forward.It does not

 

really matter if you are off the mark.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comThursday, January 21, 2010, 11:10 PM

Dear Satish,Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards,TW@gro ups.com, R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote:>>  Dear Friends,>  >                      For those interested in trying their hand , in a live case study.>  >  My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.>  >  Birth details May

29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar). >  >  1. When will she deliver?>  >  2. What will be the gender of the child?>  >     I failed,so I request the group.>  >         Regards,>  >           Satish>  > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14

PM> > >  > > > > Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) > Child Gender Prediction Analysis> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1> I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...> KP Reader IV p 236 last para> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir &  Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.> > > > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)> > Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In "Astrololgy & Atrishta" magazine April 1980.> > 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> >   > >

 > > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > >  > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> >  > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > >  > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> >

 (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> >  (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> >  (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > >  > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> >  Set - 2> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> >  and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> >  > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis

is given against their birth particulars:> >  > >  > > Set - I> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> >  My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified

time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and  whose lord is situated in a male sign or in female sign.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > @gro ups.com> > Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> > > >  > > Dear Mishra ji,> >

//Respected Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime.I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying  gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /> > Kind Sir..> > I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra

ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...> > In your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the "already born".> > I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..> > Again even if you like to test the "already tested" rules, on persons who have been "already born", may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> >  > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for

research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark. > > > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country. > > > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > > > Sorry please ignore my

mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. > > > > > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Seniors,> > > >                              I have read some where that :> > > >

                                                                       (1)Gender of native can be

identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.> > > >

                                                                       (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of

the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.> > > >

                                                                       (3) I have been challenged by some one

& given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> > > >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > > > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM>

> > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> > > > Set - 2> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given

against their birth particulars:> > > > > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > > >

> Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > >> >>

 

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Firstly, I thank every one for participating in the astrological discussion

 

of my neice's delivery issue.

 

The wait is over. A male child was born under NATURAL

 

conditions,there was no ceasarian operation required. The hospital birth time was 21-26 hrs

 

date 28the Jan 2010 at Hyderabad,(Abids).Punarvasu star same as mother's and

 

grandmother's(my sister). Mother and child are doing well.

 

The birth timings are being given for evaluation purposes.

 

Thank you and Regards,

 

Satish

--- On Thu, 1/28/10, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisraRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 10:26 PM

 

 

 

Dr.Anjana Agarwal Ji,How do you identify gender of unborn baby,if there is no perfect rule in this regard.You are requested to make it clear.This thread was opened by me but none of the members took interest to reveal perfect rule in this regard. Although I wanted to know perfect rules which indicate gender of native who are already born and whose birth charts are before us. TW JI has replied thus:Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards, TWDetermining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)[it is not found reliable] (Sunil Gondhalkar's method) If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.Some times 8 planets are found posited in same sign and then this rule will indicate a common result for all natives. With thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

DrAnjna Agarwal <anu0562 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.com; R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Thu, January 28, 2010 7:40:00 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

Female child till 2/02/2010 sa-ju-ju-ra- sat

 

5th house sgl ma, stl me, sl me

ma stl ve sl mo, me st mo sl ra

me 5th CSL (10-3,12)stl mo(12,1), sl ra (2 (sgn su 10,2)), conj su (10,2), ve (10-4,11), aspected by sa in 1-7,8, ra in 2

 

12 and 8 house involved so possibility of caesarean is there

 

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Naresh Valecha <superstaar_n_ v wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Satish, If u say the child is to be born in a couple of days then the earliest possible time as per RP's is when Moon transits in its own sign Cancer in the Star-Sub of Mercury and its a Saturday. Mars being in Cancer too with Moon on that day indicates a caesarion birth of a female child.

Naresh Valecha --- On Wed, 27/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

 

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 11:04 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh,

The child is expected to be born any time now.Ceasarian or not ,time will tell.

Thank you for your effort.

 

Regards,

 

 

Satish--- On Tue, 1/26/10, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote:

 

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in>Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

@gro ups.comTuesday, January 26, 2010, 12:37 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Satish,

 

Your niece is expected to deliver a baby child after May 2010. Is it true ?

 

The delivery might be caesarean.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Tue, 26/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comTuesday, 26 January, 2010, 11:22 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramani,

My neice got married on March2,2006 at Delhi Time 0910 hrs. The child to be born ,would be her first child. BTR was not found necessary,in my opinion as lagna sublord Merc was related to Moon.

 

Regards,

 

Satish.

 

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comMonday, January 25, 2010, 12:01 PM



Dear Satishji,

 

I presume that it is her 1st delivery. Have you rectified Birth

time? When was her marriage?

 

With best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

- R Satish

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 22, 2010 1:18 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Dear TW,

 

This group's attempt is to predict the gender, a path which KSK avoided.

 

My neice's case is an oppurtunity:

 

1. to list and apply the various formulae for gender identification.

 

2. to predict the date of the birth of the child waiting to be born.

 

 

I am waiting for our friends to avail this chance to move forward.It does not

 

really matter if you are off the mark.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comThursday, January 21, 2010, 11:10 PM

Dear Satish,Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards,TW@gro ups.com, R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote:>>  Dear Friends,>  >                      For those interested in trying their hand , in a live case study.>  >  My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.>  >  Birth details May

29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar). >  >  1. When will she deliver?>  >  2. What will be the gender of the child?>  >     I failed,so I request the group.>  >         Regards,>  >           Satish>  > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14

PM> > >  > > > > Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) > Child Gender Prediction Analysis> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1> I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...> KP Reader IV p 236 last para> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir &  Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.> > > > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)> > Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In "Astrololgy & Atrishta" magazine April 1980.> > 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> >   > >

 > > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > >  > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> >  > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > >  > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> >

 (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> >  (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> >  (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > >  > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> >  Set - 2> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> >  and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> >  > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis

is given against their birth particulars:> >  > >  > > Set - I> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> >  My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified

time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and  whose lord is situated in a male sign or in female sign.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > @gro ups.com> > Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> > > >  > > Dear Mishra ji,> >

//Respected Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime.I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying  gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /> > Kind Sir..> > I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra

ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...> > In your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the "already born".> > I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..> > Again even if you like to test the "already tested" rules, on persons who have been "already born", may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> >  > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for

research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark. > > > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country. > > > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > > > Sorry please ignore my

mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. > > > > > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Seniors,> > > >                              I have read some where that :> > > >

                                                                       (1)Gender of native can be

identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.> > > >

                                                                       (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of

the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.> > > >

                                                                       (3) I have been challenged by some one

& given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> > > >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > > > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM>

> > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> > > > Set - 2> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given

against their birth particulars:> > > > > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > > >

> Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > >> >>

 

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Dear Dhirendra Nath Misra ji

 

if there is no perfect rule to identify gender then we need to make it.

I am trying to identify gender through cusp signl stl sl.

but I found if you are trying to get gender through natal chart then it required BTR process 1st.

So btr is most important process for making predictions through natal chart.

 

have you check the case given by satish ji ???

 

his niece got married on 2/3/2006

sa-ma-ju-mo

moon not signifying 2,7,11

so required btr as i think.

 

child born on 28 jan 2010

sa-ju-ju-ra-

jupiter not coming as significator of 2,5,11

 

plz check this

 

so btr is the most important process.

 

If i will be able to find out any specific method would like to let you know.

 

Regards

Anjna

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:39 AM, R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

       Dear Friends,

 

                            Firstly, I thank every one for participating in the astrological discussion

 

   of my neice's delivery issue.

 

                            The wait is over. A male child was born under NATURAL

 

conditions,there was no ceasarian operation required. The hospital birth time was 21-26 hrs

 

 date 28the Jan 2010 at  Hyderabad,(Abids).Punarvasu star same as mother's and

 

grandmother's(my sister). Mother and child are doing well.

 

                             The birth timings are being given for evaluation purposes.

 

                             Thank you and Regards,

 

                              Satish

                              

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Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

Thursday, January 28, 2010, 10:26 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Dr.Anjana Agarwal Ji,How do you identify gender of unborn baby,if there is no perfect rule in this regard.You are requested to make it clear.This thread was opened by me but none of the members took interest to reveal perfect rule in this regard. Although I wanted to know perfect rules which indicate gender of native who are already born and whose birth charts are before us. TW JI has replied thus:Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards, TW

Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)[it is not found reliable] (Sunil Gondhalkar's method) If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.

Some times 8 planets are found posited in same sign and then this rule will indicate a common result for all natives. With thanks & regards, 

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

 

DrAnjna Agarwal <anu0562 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.com; R Satish <rsatish1942@ >

 

Thu, January 28, 2010 7:40:00 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Female child till 2/02/2010 sa-ju-ju-ra- sat

 

5th house sgl ma, stl me, sl me

ma stl ve sl mo, me st mo sl ra

me 5th CSL (10-3,12)stl mo(12,1), sl ra (2 (sgn su 10,2)), conj su (10,2), ve (10-4,11), aspected by sa in 1-7,8, ra in 2

 

12 and 8 house involved so possibility of caesarean is there

 

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Naresh Valecha <superstaar_n_ v wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Satish, If u say the child is to be born in a couple of days then the earliest possible time as per RP's is when Moon transits in its own sign Cancer in the Star-Sub of Mercury and its a Saturday. Mars being in Cancer too with Moon on that day indicates a caesarion birth of a female child.

Naresh Valecha --- On Wed, 27/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

 

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

@gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 11:04 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

   Dear Ramesh,

                         The child is expected to be born any time now.Ceasarian or not ,time will tell.

                        Thank you for your effort.

 

                        Regards,

 

 

                         Satish--- On Tue, 1/26/10, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote:

 

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in>Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

@gro ups.comTuesday, January 26, 2010, 12:37 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Satish,

 

Your niece is expected to deliver a baby child after May 2010. Is it true ?

 

The delivery might be caesarean.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Tue, 26/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

 

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

@gro ups.comTuesday, 26 January, 2010, 11:22 AM

 

 

 

 

 

    Dear Ramani,

                       My neice got married on March2,2006 at Delhi Time 0910 hrs. The child to be born ,would be her first child. BTR was not found necessary,in my opinion as lagna sublord Merc was related to Moon.

 

                       Regards,

 

                       Satish.

 

                           --- On Mon, 1/25/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

@gro ups.comMonday, January 25, 2010, 12:01 PM

 



Dear Satishji,

 

I presume that it is her 1st delivery.  Have you rectified Birth

time? When was her marriage?

 

With best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

- R Satish

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 22, 2010 1:18 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

 

   Dear TW,

 

                     This group's attempt is to predict the gender, a path which KSK avoided.

 

                     My neice's case is an oppurtunity:

 

                    1. to list and apply the various formulae for gender identification.

 

                    2. to predict the date of the birth of the child waiting to be born.

 

 

                    I am waiting for our friends to avail this chance to move forward.It does not

 

                    really matter if you are off the mark.

 

 

 

                   Regards,

 

                    Satish

 

                 --- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

@gro ups.comThursday, January 21, 2010, 11:10 PM

 

Dear Satish,Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.

Regards,TW@gro ups.com, R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote:

>>   Dear Friends,>  >                       For those interested  in trying their hand  , in  a  live case study.>  >   My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.

>  >  Birth details May 29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar). >  >  1. When will she deliver?>  >  2. What will be the gender of the child?>  >       I failed,so I request the group.

>  >          Regards,>  >           Satish>  > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853

> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> @gro ups.com

> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14 PM> > >   > > > > Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) > Child Gender Prediction Analysis> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1

> I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...> KP Reader IV p 236 last para> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir &  Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)

> > (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.

> > > > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621

> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)> > Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In " Astrololgy & Atrishta " magazine April 1980.

> > 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> >   

> >  > > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are  born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:

> >                                                                           à ‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. 

> >  > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> >  > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  

> >  > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> >  (3)  7-10-1972 12:30AM> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM

> >  (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> >  (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > >  > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: 

> > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> >  Set - 2> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> >  and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)

> >  > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:> >  > >  > > Set - I

> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM      Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> >  (3)  7-10-1972 12:30AM    Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> >  > > Set - 2

> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM   Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM   Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM   Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) 

> > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM   Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> >  My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and  whose lord is situated in a male sign or in  female sign.

> > > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

> > @gro ups.com> > Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

> > > >   > > Dear Mishra ji,> > //Respected Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime.I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying  gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /

> > Kind Sir..> > I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...> > In your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the " already born " .

> > I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..> > Again even if you like to test the  " already tested " rules, on persons who have been " already born " , may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?

> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> >  > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark.

> > > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country.

> > > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > > > Sorry please ignore my mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage.

> > > > > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:

> > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Seniors,> > > >                               I have read some where that :

> > > >                                                                         (1)Gender of native can be identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.

> > > >                                                                         (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.

> > > >                                                                         (3) I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are  born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:

> > > >                                                                           à ‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother.

> > > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  

> > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > > (3)  7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > > > Set - 2

> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM 

> > > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)

> > > > Set - 2> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:

> > > > > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM      Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > > (3)  7-10-1972 12:30AM    Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)

> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM   Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM   Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)

> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM   Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM   Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > > > > Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.

> > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > >> >>

 

 

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Dear Satishji,

 

Have you not seen my prediction sent on 27-1-2010, wherein I have clearly predicted the birth of a male child

to your niece on 28-1-2010 and it would be normal delivery.

I am sorry that you have not mentioned it. Pl, check up

your mail inbox again. Pl.reply.

 

Best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

 

-

R Satish

Friday, January 29, 2010 10:39 AM

Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Friends,

 

Firstly, I thank every one for participating in the astrological discussion

 

of my neice's delivery issue.

 

The wait is over. A male child was born under NATURAL

 

conditions,there was no ceasarian operation required. The hospital birth time was 21-26 hrs

 

date 28the Jan 2010 at Hyderabad,(Abids).Punarvasu star same as mother's and

 

grandmother's(my sister). Mother and child are doing well.

 

The birth timings are being given for evaluation purposes.

 

Thank you and Regards,

 

Satish

--- On Thu, 1/28/10, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra (AT) ymail (DOT) com> wrote:

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra (AT) ymail (DOT) com>Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 10:26 PM

 

 

 

Dr.Anjana Agarwal Ji,How do you identify gender of unborn baby,if there is no perfect rule in this regard.You are requested to make it clear.This thread was opened by me but none of the members took interest to reveal perfect rule in this regard. Although I wanted to know perfect rules which indicate gender of native who are already born and whose birth charts are before us. TW JI has replied thus:Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards, TWDetermining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)[it is not found reliable] (Sunil Gondhalkar's method) If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.Some times 8 planets are found posited in same sign and then this rule will indicate a common result for all natives. With thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

DrAnjna Agarwal <anu0562 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.com; R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Thu, January 28, 2010 7:40:00 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

Female child till 2/02/2010 sa-ju-ju-ra- sat

 

5th house sgl ma, stl me, sl me

ma stl ve sl mo, me st mo sl ra

me 5th CSL (10-3,12)stl mo(12,1), sl ra (2 (sgn su 10,2)), conj su (10,2), ve (10-4,11), aspected by sa in 1-7,8, ra in 2

 

12 and 8 house involved so possibility of caesarean is there

 

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Naresh Valecha <superstaar_n_ v wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Satish, If u say the child is to be born in a couple of days then the earliest possible time as per RP's is when Moon transits in its own sign Cancer in the Star-Sub of Mercury and its a Saturday. Mars being in Cancer too with Moon on that day indicates a caesarion birth of a female child.

Naresh Valecha --- On Wed, 27/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

 

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 11:04 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh,

The child is expected to be born any time now.Ceasarian or not ,time will tell.

Thank you for your effort.

 

Regards,

 

 

Satish--- On Tue, 1/26/10, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote:

 

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in>Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

@gro ups.comTuesday, January 26, 2010, 12:37 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Satish,

 

Your niece is expected to deliver a baby child after May 2010. Is it true ?

 

The delivery might be caesarean.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Tue, 26/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comTuesday, 26 January, 2010, 11:22 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramani,

My neice got married on March2,2006 at Delhi Time 0910 hrs. The child to be born ,would be her first child. BTR was not found necessary,in my opinion as lagna sublord Merc was related to Moon.

 

Regards,

 

Satish.

 

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comMonday, January 25, 2010, 12:01 PM



Dear Satishji,

 

I presume that it is her 1st delivery. Have you rectified Birth

time? When was her marriage?

 

With best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

- R Satish

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 22, 2010 1:18 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Dear TW,

 

This group's attempt is to predict the gender, a path which KSK avoided.

 

My neice's case is an oppurtunity:

 

1. to list and apply the various formulae for gender identification.

 

2. to predict the date of the birth of the child waiting to be born.

 

 

I am waiting for our friends to avail this chance to move forward.It does not

 

really matter if you are off the mark.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comThursday, January 21, 2010, 11:10 PM

Dear Satish,Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards,TW@gro ups.com, R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote:>>  Dear Friends,>  >                      For those interested in trying their hand , in a live case study.>  >  My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.>  >  Birth details May 29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar). >  >  1. When will she deliver?>  >  2. What will be the gender of the child?>  >     I failed,so I request the group.>  >         Regards,>  >           Satish>  > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14 PM> > >  > > > > Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) > Child Gender Prediction Analysis> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1> I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...> KP Reader IV p 236 last para> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir &  Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.> > > > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)> > Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In "Astrololgy & Atrishta" magazine April 1980.> > 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> >   > >  > > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> >                                                                           à ‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > >  > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> >  > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > >  > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> >  (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> >  (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > >  > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> >  Set - 2> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> >  and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> >  > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:> >  > >  > > Set - I> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> >  My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and  whose lord is situated in a male sign or in female sign.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > @gro ups.com> > Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> > > >  > > Dear Mishra ji,> > //Respected Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime.I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying  gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /> > Kind Sir..> > I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...> > In your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the "already born".> > I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..> > Again even if you like to test the "already tested" rules, on persons who have been "already born", may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> >  > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark. > > > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country. > > > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > > > Sorry please ignore my mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. > > > > > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Seniors,> > > >                              I have read some where that :> > > >                                                                        (1)Gender of native can be identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.> > > >                                                                        (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.> > > >                                                                        (3) I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> > > >                                                                           à ‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > > > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> > > > Set - 2> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:> > > > > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > > > > Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > >> >>

 

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Dear Ramani,

 

I am extremely sorry I did not see your mail and hence did not note it.

 

Thank you for your Correct Prediction.

 

May I now request you for complete details/analysis for the benefit of all of us.

 

Thank you and regards,

 

Satish.--- On Fri, 1/29/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani wrote:

kadavasalramani <kadavasalramaniRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 2:25 PM

 Dear Satishji,

 

Have you not seen my prediction sent on 27-1-2010, wherein I have clearly predicted the birth of a male child

to your niece on 28-1-2010 and it would be normal delivery.

I am sorry that you have not mentioned it. Pl, check up

your mail inbox again. Pl.reply.

 

Best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

 

-

R Satish

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 29, 2010 10:39 AM

Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Friends,

 

Firstly, I thank every one for participating in the astrological discussion

 

of my neice's delivery issue.

 

The wait is over. A male child was born under NATURAL

 

conditions,there was no ceasarian operation required. The hospital birth time was 21-26 hrs

 

date 28the Jan 2010 at Hyderabad,(Abids) .Punarvasu star same as mother's and

 

grandmother' s(my sister). Mother and child are doing well.

 

The birth timings are being given for evaluation purposes.

 

Thank you and Regards,

 

Satish

--- On Thu, 1/28/10, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote:

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comThursday, January 28, 2010, 10:26 PM

 

 

 

Dr.Anjana Agarwal Ji,How do you identify gender of unborn baby,if there is no perfect rule in this regard.You are requested to make it clear.This thread was opened by me but none of the members took interest to reveal perfect rule in this regard. Although I wanted to know perfect rules which indicate gender of native who are already born and whose birth charts are before us. TW JI has replied thus:Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards, TWDetermining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)[it is not found reliable] (Sunil Gondhalkar's method) If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.Some times 8 planets are found posited in same sign and then this rule will indicate a common result for all natives. With thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

DrAnjna Agarwal <anu0562 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.com; R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Thu, January 28, 2010 7:40:00 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

Female child till 2/02/2010 sa-ju-ju-ra- sat

 

5th house sgl ma, stl me, sl me

ma stl ve sl mo, me st mo sl ra

me 5th CSL (10-3,12)stl mo(12,1), sl ra (2 (sgn su 10,2)), conj su (10,2), ve (10-4,11), aspected by sa in 1-7,8, ra in 2

 

12 and 8 house involved so possibility of caesarean is there

 

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Naresh Valecha <superstaar_n_ v wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Satish, If u say the child is to be born in a couple of days then the earliest possible time as per RP's is when Moon transits in its own sign Cancer in the Star-Sub of Mercury and its a Saturday. Mars being in Cancer too with Moon on that day indicates a caesarion birth of a female child.

Naresh Valecha --- On Wed, 27/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

 

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 11:04 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh,

The child is expected to be born any time now.Ceasarian or not ,time will tell.

Thank you for your effort.

 

Regards,

 

 

Satish--- On Tue, 1/26/10, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote:

 

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in>Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

@gro ups.comTuesday, January 26, 2010, 12:37 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Satish,

 

Your niece is expected to deliver a baby child after May 2010. Is it true ?

 

The delivery might be caesarean.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Tue, 26/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comTuesday, 26 January, 2010, 11:22 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramani,

My neice got married on March2,2006 at Delhi Time 0910 hrs. The child to be born ,would be her first child. BTR was not found necessary,in my opinion as lagna sublord Merc was related to Moon.

 

Regards,

 

Satish.

 

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comMonday, January 25, 2010, 12:01 PM



Dear Satishji,

 

I presume that it is her 1st delivery. Have you rectified Birth

time? When was her marriage?

 

With best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

- R Satish

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 22, 2010 1:18 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Dear TW,

 

This group's attempt is to predict the gender, a path which KSK avoided.

 

My neice's case is an oppurtunity:

 

1. to list and apply the various formulae for gender identification.

 

2. to predict the date of the birth of the child waiting to be born.

 

 

I am waiting for our friends to avail this chance to move forward.It does not

 

really matter if you are off the mark.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comThursday, January 21, 2010, 11:10 PM

Dear Satish,Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards,TW@gro ups.com, R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote:>>  Dear Friends,>  >                      For those interested in trying their hand , in a live case study.>  >  My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.>  >  Birth details May

29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar). >  >  1. When will she deliver?>  >  2. What will be the gender of the child?>  >     I failed,so I request the group.>  >         Regards,>  >           Satish>  > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14

PM> > >  > > > > Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) > Child Gender Prediction Analysis> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1> I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...> KP Reader IV p 236 last para> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir &  Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.> > > > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)> > Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In "Astrololgy & Atrishta" magazine April 1980.> > 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> >   > >

 > > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > >  > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> >  > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > >  > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> >

 (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> >  (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> >  (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > >  > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> >  Set - 2> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> >  and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> >  > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis

is given against their birth particulars:> >  > >  > > Set - I> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> >  My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified

time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and  whose lord is situated in a male sign or in female sign.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > @gro ups.com> > Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> > > >  > > Dear Mishra ji,> >

//Respected Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime.I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying  gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /> > Kind Sir..> > I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra

ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...> > In your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the "already born".> > I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..> > Again even if you like to test the "already tested" rules, on persons who have been "already born", may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> >  > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for

research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark. > > > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country. > > > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > > > Sorry please ignore my

mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. > > > > > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Seniors,> > > >                              I have read some where that :> > > >

                                                                       (1)Gender of native can be

identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.> > > >

                                                                       (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of

the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.> > > >

                                                                       (3) I have been challenged by some one

& given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> > > >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > > > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM>

> > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> > > > Set - 2> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given

against their birth particulars:> > > > > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > > >

> Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > >> >>

 

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Dear Mr.Misra,

I have been using Gondhalekar's method since it was first introduced and so far,I have got extremely accurate results..

The Rule is :

"If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Vth cusp,is posited in a star,whose lord is

posited in a Male Sign(ODD Sign), a boy will be born...of in a Female(Even Sign),a Female..."

Where is the question of eight planets as you hypothesise needlessly ?

Instead ,why don't you apply the Rule properly to a given actual case and then post it as an example...(It was prived right in the most recent case of Satishji's neice... !

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra Sent: Thu, 28 January, 2010 10:26:01 PMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

Dr.Anjana Agarwal Ji,How do you identify gender of unborn baby,if there is no perfect rule in this regard.You are requested to make it clear.This thread was opened by me but none of the members took interest to reveal perfect rule in this regard. Although I wanted to know perfect rules which indicate gender of native who are already born and whose birth charts are before us. TW JI has replied thus:Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards, TWDetermining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)[it is not found reliable] (Sunil Gondhalkar's method) If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.Some times 8 planets are found posited in same sign and then this rule will indicate a common result for all natives. With thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

DrAnjna Agarwal <anu0562 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.com; R Satish <rsatish1942@ ..com>Thu, January 28, 2010 7:40:00 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

Female child till 2/02/2010 sa-ju-ju-ra- sat

 

5th house sgl ma, stl me, sl me

ma stl ve sl mo, me st mo sl ra

me 5th CSL (10-3,12)stl mo(12,1), sl ra (2 (sgn su 10,2)), conj su (10,2), ve (10-4,11), aspected by sa in 1-7,8, ra in 2

 

12 and 8 house involved so possibility of caesarean is there

 

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Naresh Valecha <superstaar_n_ v wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Satish, If u say the child is to be born in a couple of days then the earliest possible time as per RP's is when Moon transits in its own sign Cancer in the Star-Sub of Mercury and its a Saturday. Mars being in Cancer too with Moon on that day indicates a caesarion birth of a female child.

Naresh Valecha --- On Wed, 27/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

 

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 11:04 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh,

The child is expected to be born any time now.Ceasarian or not ,time will tell.

Thank you for your effort.

 

Regards,

 

 

Satish--- On Tue, 1/26/10, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote:

 

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in>Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

@gro ups.comTuesday, January 26, 2010, 12:37 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Satish,

 

Your niece is expected to deliver a baby child after May 2010. Is it true ?

 

The delivery might be caesarean.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Tue, 26/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comTuesday, 26 January, 2010, 11:22 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramani,

My neice got married on March2,2006 at Delhi Time 0910 hrs. The child to be born ,would be her first child. BTR was not found necessary,in my opinion as lagna sublord Merc was related to Moon.

 

Regards,

 

Satish.

 

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comMonday, January 25, 2010, 12:01 PM



Dear Satishji,

 

I presume that it is her 1st delivery. Have you rectified Birth

time? When was her marriage?

 

With best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

- R Satish

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 22, 2010 1:18 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Dear TW,

 

This group's attempt is to predict the gender, a path which KSK avoided.

 

My neice's case is an oppurtunity:

 

1. to list and apply the various formulae for gender identification.

 

2. to predict the date of the birth of the child waiting to be born.

 

 

I am waiting for our friends to avail this chance to move forward.It does not

 

really matter if you are off the mark.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comThursday, January 21, 2010, 11:10 PM

Dear Satish,Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards,TW@gro ups.com, R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote:>>  Dear Friends,>  >                      For those interested in trying their hand , in a live case study.>  >  My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.>  >  Birth details May

29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar). >  >  1. When will she deliver?>  >  2. What will be the gender of the child?>  >     I failed,so I request the group.>  >         Regards,>  >           Satish>  > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14

PM> > >  > > > > Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) > Child Gender Prediction Analysis> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1> I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...> KP Reader IV p 236 last para> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir &  Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.> > > > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)> > Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In "Astrololgy & Atrishta" magazine April 1980.> > 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> >   > >

 > > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > >  > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> >  > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > >  > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> >

 (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> >  (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> >  (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > >  > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> >  Set - 2> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> >  and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> >  > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis

is given against their birth particulars:> >  > >  > > Set - I> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> >  My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified

time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and  whose lord is situated in a male sign or in female sign.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > @gro ups.com> > Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> > > >  > > Dear Mishra ji,> >

//Respected Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime..I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying  gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /> > Kind Sir..> > I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra

ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...> > In your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the "already born".> > I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..> > Again even if you like to test the "already tested" rules, on persons who have been "already born", may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> >  > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for

research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark. > > > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country. > > > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > > > Sorry please ignore my

mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. > > > > > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Seniors,> > > >                              I have read some where that :> > > >

                                                                       (1)Gender of native can be

identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.> > > >

                                                                       (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of

the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.> > > >

                                                                       (3) I have been challenged by some one

& given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> > > >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > > > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM>

> > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> > > > Set - 2> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given

against their birth particulars:> > > > > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > > >

> Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > >> >>

 

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Dear Mr. Yogeshjiafter reading this mail of yours I instantly applied the rule in my and my wife's chart and in both it indicates Girl and this ndication is absolutely true.well shall keep checking for moreRegards Amit DesaiYogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi Cc: Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisraFri, January 29, 2010 5:58:06 PMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

Dear Mr.Misra,

I have been using Gondhalekar' s method since it was first introduced and so far,I have got extremely accurate results..

The Rule is :

"If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Vth cusp,is posited in a star,whose lord is

posited in a Male Sign(ODD Sign), a boy will be born...of in a Female(Even Sign),a Female..."

Where is the question of eight planets as you hypothesise needlessly ?

Instead ,why don't you apply the Rule properly to a given actual case and then post it as an example...(It was prived right in the most recent case of Satishji's neice... !

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.comThu, 28 January, 2010 10:26:01 PMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

Dr.Anjana Agarwal Ji,How do you identify gender of unborn baby,if there is no perfect rule in this regard.You are requested to make it clear.This thread was opened by me but none of the members took interest to reveal perfect rule in this regard. Although I wanted to know perfect rules which indicate gender of native who are already born and whose birth charts are before us. TW JI has replied thus:Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards, TWDetermining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)[it is not found reliable] (Sunil Gondhalkar's method) If the sub-lord of the

sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.Some times 8 planets are found posited in same sign and then this rule will indicate a common result for all natives. With thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

DrAnjna Agarwal <anu0562 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.com; R Satish <rsatish1942@ ..com>Thu, January 28, 2010 7:40:00 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

Female child till 2/02/2010 sa-ju-ju-ra- sat

 

5th house sgl ma, stl me, sl me

ma stl ve sl mo, me st mo sl ra

me 5th CSL (10-3,12)stl mo(12,1), sl ra (2 (sgn su 10,2)), conj su (10,2), ve (10-4,11), aspected by sa in 1-7,8, ra in 2

 

12 and 8 house involved so possibility of caesarean is there

 

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Naresh Valecha <superstaar_n_ v wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Satish, If u say the child is to be born in a couple of days then the earliest possible time as per RP's is when Moon transits in its own sign Cancer in the Star-Sub of Mercury and its a Saturday. Mars being in Cancer too with Moon on that day indicates a caesarion birth of a female child.

Naresh Valecha --- On Wed, 27/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

 

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 11:04 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh,

The child is expected to be born any time now.Ceasarian or not ,time will tell.

Thank you for your effort.

 

Regards,

 

 

Satish--- On Tue, 1/26/10, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote:

 

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in>Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

@gro ups.comTuesday, January 26, 2010, 12:37 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Satish,

 

Your niece is expected to deliver a baby child after May 2010. Is it true ?

 

The delivery might be caesarean.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Tue, 26/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comTuesday, 26 January, 2010, 11:22 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramani,

My neice got married on March2,2006 at Delhi Time 0910 hrs. The child to be born ,would be her first child. BTR was not found necessary,in my opinion as lagna sublord Merc was related to Moon.

 

Regards,

 

Satish.

 

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comMonday, January 25, 2010, 12:01 PM



Dear Satishji,

 

I presume that it is her 1st delivery. Have you rectified Birth

time? When was her marriage?

 

With best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

- R Satish

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 22, 2010 1:18 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Dear TW,

 

This group's attempt is to predict the gender, a path which KSK avoided.

 

My neice's case is an oppurtunity:

 

1. to list and apply the various formulae for gender identification.

 

2. to predict the date of the birth of the child waiting to be born.

 

 

I am waiting for our friends to avail this chance to move forward.It does not

 

really matter if you are off the mark.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comThursday, January 21, 2010, 11:10 PM

Dear Satish,Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards,TW@gro ups.com, R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote:>>  Dear Friends,>  >                      For those interested in trying their hand , in a live case study.>  >  My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.>  >  Birth details May

29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar). >  >  1. When will she deliver?>  >  2. What will be the gender of the child?>  >     I failed,so I request the group.>  >         Regards,>  >           Satish>  > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14

PM> > >  > > > > Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) > Child Gender Prediction Analysis> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1> I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...> KP Reader IV p 236 last para> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir &  Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > If the sub-lord of the

sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.> > > > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)> > Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In "Astrololgy & Atrishta" magazine April 1980.> > 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> >

  > >

 > > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > >  > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> >  > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > >  > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> >

 (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> >  (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> >  (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > >  > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> >  Set - 2> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> >  and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> >  > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis

is given against their birth particulars:> >  > >  > > Set - I> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> >  My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified

time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and  whose lord is situated in a male sign or in female sign.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > @gro ups.com> > Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> > > >  > > Dear Mishra ji,> >

//Respected Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime..I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying  gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /> > Kind Sir..> > I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra

ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...> > In your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the "already born".> > I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..> > Again even if you like to test the "already tested" rules, on persons who have been "already born", may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> >  > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time

for

research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark. > > > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country. > > > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > > > Sorry please ignore my

mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. > > > > > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Seniors,> > > >                              I have read some where that :> > > >

                                                                       (1)Gender of native can be

identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.> > > >

                                                                       (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of

the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.> > > >

                                                                       (3) I have been challenged by some one

& given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> > > >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > > > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM>

> > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> > > > Set - 2> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given

against their birth particulars:> > > > > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > > >

> Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > >> >>

 

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Dear Amit,

Thanks...actually these should rightly go to Mr.Sunil Gondhalekar...and the late Guruji KSK.

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

amit desai <amitwho Sent: Sat, 30 January, 2010 8:35:02 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

Dear Mr. Yogeshji

 

after reading this mail of yours I instantly applied the rule in my and my wife's chart and in both it indicates Girl and this ndication is absolutely true.

 

well shall keep checking for more

 

Regards Amit Desai

 

 

 

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >@gro ups.comCc: Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>Fri, January 29, 2010 5:58:06 PMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

Dear Mr.Misra,

I have been using Gondhalekar' s method since it was first introduced and so far,I have got extremely accurate results..

The Rule is :

"If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Vth cusp,is posited in a star,whose lord is

posited in a Male Sign(ODD Sign), a boy will be born...of in a Female(Even Sign),a Female..."

Where is the question of eight planets as you hypothesise needlessly ?

Instead ,why don't you apply the Rule properly to a given actual case and then post it as an example...(It was prived right in the most recent case of Satishji's neice... !

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.comThu, 28 January, 2010 10:26:01 PMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

Dr.Anjana Agarwal Ji,How do you identify gender of unborn baby,if there is no perfect rule in this regard.You are requested to make it clear.This thread was opened by me but none of the members took interest to reveal perfect rule in this regard. Although I wanted to know perfect rules which indicate gender of native who are already born and whose birth charts are before us. TW JI has replied thus:Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards, TWDetermining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)[it is not found reliable] (Sunil Gondhalkar's method) If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.Some times 8 planets are found posited in same sign and then this rule will indicate a common result for all natives. With thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

DrAnjna Agarwal <anu0562 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.com; R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...com>Thu, January 28, 2010 7:40:00 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

Female child till 2/02/2010 sa-ju-ju-ra- sat

 

5th house sgl ma, stl me, sl me

ma stl ve sl mo, me st mo sl ra

me 5th CSL (10-3,12)stl mo(12,1), sl ra (2 (sgn su 10,2)), conj su (10,2), ve (10-4,11), aspected by sa in 1-7,8, ra in 2

 

12 and 8 house involved so possibility of caesarean is there

 

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Naresh Valecha <superstaar_n_ v wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Satish, If u say the child is to be born in a couple of days then the earliest possible time as per RP's is when Moon transits in its own sign Cancer in the Star-Sub of Mercury and its a Saturday. Mars being in Cancer too with Moon on that day indicates a caesarion birth of a female child.

Naresh Valecha --- On Wed, 27/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

 

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 11:04 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh,

The child is expected to be born any time now.Ceasarian or not ,time will tell.

Thank you for your effort.

 

Regards,

 

 

Satish--- On Tue, 1/26/10, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote:

 

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in>Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

@gro ups.comTuesday, January 26, 2010, 12:37 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Satish,

 

Your niece is expected to deliver a baby child after May 2010. Is it true ?

 

The delivery might be caesarean.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Tue, 26/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comTuesday, 26 January, 2010, 11:22 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramani,

My neice got married on March2,2006 at Delhi Time 0910 hrs. The child to be born ,would be her first child. BTR was not found necessary,in my opinion as lagna sublord Merc was related to Moon.

 

Regards,

 

Satish.

 

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comMonday, January 25, 2010, 12:01 PM



Dear Satishji,

 

I presume that it is her 1st delivery. Have you rectified Birth

time? When was her marriage?

 

With best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

- R Satish

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 22, 2010 1:18 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Dear TW,

 

This group's attempt is to predict the gender, a path which KSK avoided.

 

My neice's case is an oppurtunity:

 

1. to list and apply the various formulae for gender identification.

 

2. to predict the date of the birth of the child waiting to be born.

 

 

I am waiting for our friends to avail this chance to move forward.It does not

 

really matter if you are off the mark.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comThursday, January 21, 2010, 11:10 PM

Dear Satish,Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards,TW@gro ups.com, R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote:>>  Dear Friends,>  >                      For those interested in trying their hand , in a live case study.>  >  My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.>  >  Birth details May

29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar). >  >  1. When will she deliver?>  >  2. What will be the gender of the child?>  >     I failed,so I request the group.>  >         Regards,>  >           Satish>  > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14

PM> > >  > > > > Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) > Child Gender Prediction Analysis> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1> I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...> KP Reader IV p 236 last para> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir &  Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.> > > > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)> > Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In "Astrololgy & Atrishta" magazine April 1980.> > 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> >   > >

 > > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > >  > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> >  > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > >  > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> >

 (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> >  (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> >  (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > >  > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> >  Set - 2> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> >  and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> >  > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis

is given against their birth particulars:> >  > >  > > Set - I> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> >  My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified

time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and  whose lord is situated in a male sign or in female sign.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > @gro ups.com> > Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> > > >  > > Dear Mishra ji,> >

//Respected Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime...I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying  gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /> > Kind Sir..> > I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra

ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...> > In your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the "already born".> > I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..> > Again even if you like to test the "already tested" rules, on persons who have been "already born", may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> >  > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for

research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark. > > > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country. > > > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > > > Sorry please ignore my

mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. > > > > > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Seniors,> > > >                              I have read some where that :> > > >

                                                                       (1)Gender of native can be

identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.> > > >

                                                                       (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of

the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.> > > >

                                                                       (3) I have been challenged by some one

& given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> > > >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > > > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM>

> > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> > > > Set - 2> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given

against their birth particulars:> > > > > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > > >

> Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > >> >>

 

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Respected Lajmi Sir,I wanted to know perfect rules which indicate gender of native who are already born and whose birth charts are before us.

 

I was not asking rules relating to first child birth and its gender. The following method have been found unreliabe.

Take my own example.DOB-20.04.1959,TOB-8:15:56,POB-BASTI(U.P),Ayanamsa adopted K.P.Sub lord of ascendant-Ve,Sub-Sub lord Saturn.Apply Sunil Gondhalkar's method and you will find it BigZero.You know me well.sub sub lord is posited in a star lord of which is Venus and venus is posited in Taurus a female sign.Rule failed here.

Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)[it is not found reliable.Sunil Gondhalkar's method) If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.Some times 8 planets are found posited in same sign and then this rule will indicate a common result for all natives.

With thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

amit desai <amitwho Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 8:35:02 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

Dear Mr. Yogeshji

 

after reading this mail of yours I instantly applied the rule in my and my wife's chart and in both it indicates Girl and this ndication is absolutely true.

 

well shall keep checking for more

 

Regards Amit Desai

 

 

 

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >@gro ups.comCc: Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>Fri, January 29, 2010 5:58:06 PMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

Dear Mr.Misra,

I have been using Gondhalekar' s method since it was first introduced and so far,I have got extremely accurate results..

The Rule is :

"If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Vth cusp,is posited in a star,whose lord is

posited in a Male Sign(ODD Sign), a boy will be born...of in a Female(Even Sign),a Female..."

Where is the question of eight planets as you hypothesise needlessly ?

Instead ,why don't you apply the Rule properly to a given actual case and then post it as an example...(It was prived right in the most recent case of Satishji's neice... !

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.comThu, 28 January, 2010 10:26:01 PMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

Dr.Anjana Agarwal Ji,How do you identify gender of unborn baby,if there is no perfect rule in this regard.You are requested to make it clear.This thread was opened by me but none of the members took interest to reveal perfect rule in this regard. Although I wanted to know perfect rules which indicate gender of native who are already born and whose birth charts are before us. TW JI has replied thus:Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards, TWDetermining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)[it is not found reliable] (Sunil Gondhalkar's method) If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.Some times 8 planets are found posited in same sign and then this rule will indicate a common result for all natives. With thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

DrAnjna Agarwal <anu0562 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.com; R Satish <rsatish1942@ ..com>Thu, January 28, 2010 7:40:00 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

Female child till 2/02/2010 sa-ju-ju-ra- sat

 

5th house sgl ma, stl me, sl me

ma stl ve sl mo, me st mo sl ra

me 5th CSL (10-3,12)stl mo(12,1), sl ra (2 (sgn su 10,2)), conj su (10,2), ve (10-4,11), aspected by sa in 1-7,8, ra in 2

 

12 and 8 house involved so possibility of caesarean is there

 

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Naresh Valecha <superstaar_n_ v wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Satish, If u say the child is to be born in a couple of days then the earliest possible time as per RP's is when Moon transits in its own sign Cancer in the Star-Sub of Mercury and its a Saturday. Mars being in Cancer too with Moon on that day indicates a caesarion birth of a female child.

Naresh Valecha --- On Wed, 27/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

 

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 11:04 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh,

The child is expected to be born any time now.Ceasarian or not ,time will tell.

Thank you for your effort.

 

Regards,

 

 

Satish--- On Tue, 1/26/10, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote:

 

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in>Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

@gro ups.comTuesday, January 26, 2010, 12:37 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Satish,

 

Your niece is expected to deliver a baby child after May 2010. Is it true ?

 

The delivery might be caesarean.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Tue, 26/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comTuesday, 26 January, 2010, 11:22 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramani,

My neice got married on March2,2006 at Delhi Time 0910 hrs. The child to be born ,would be her first child. BTR was not found necessary,in my opinion as lagna sublord Merc was related to Moon.

 

Regards,

 

Satish.

 

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comMonday, January 25, 2010, 12:01 PM



Dear Satishji,

 

I presume that it is her 1st delivery. Have you rectified Birth

time? When was her marriage?

 

With best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

- R Satish

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 22, 2010 1:18 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Dear TW,

 

This group's attempt is to predict the gender, a path which KSK avoided.

 

My neice's case is an oppurtunity:

 

1. to list and apply the various formulae for gender identification.

 

2. to predict the date of the birth of the child waiting to be born.

 

 

I am waiting for our friends to avail this chance to move forward.It does not

 

really matter if you are off the mark.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comThursday, January 21, 2010, 11:10 PM

Dear Satish,Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards,TW@gro ups.com, R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote:>>  Dear Friends,>  >                      For those interested in trying their hand , in a live case study.>  >  My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.>  >  Birth details May

29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar). >  >  1. When will she deliver?>  >  2. What will be the gender of the child?>  >     I failed,so I request the group.>  >         Regards,>  >           Satish>  > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14

PM> > >  > > > > Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) > Child Gender Prediction Analysis> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1> I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...> KP Reader IV p 236 last para> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir &  Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.> > > > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)> > Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In "Astrololgy & Atrishta" magazine April 1980.> > 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> >   > >

 > > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > >  > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> >  > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > >  > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> >

 (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> >  (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> >  (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > >  > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> >  Set - 2> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> >  and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> >  > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis

is given against their birth particulars:> >  > >  > > Set - I> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> >  My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified

time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and  whose lord is situated in a male sign or in female sign.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > @gro ups.com> > Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> > > >  > > Dear Mishra ji,> >

//Respected Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime..I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying  gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /> > Kind Sir..> > I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra

ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...> > In your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the "already born".> > I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..> > Again even if you like to test the "already tested" rules, on persons who have been "already born", may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> >  > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for

research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark. > > > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country. > > > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > > > Sorry please ignore my

mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. > > > > > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Seniors,> > > >                              I have read some where that :> > > >

                                                                       (1)Gender of native can be

identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.> > > >

                                                                       (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of

the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.> > > >

                                                                       (3) I have been challenged by some one

& given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> > > >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > > > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM>

> > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> > > > Set - 2> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given

against their birth particulars:> > > > > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > > >

> Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > >> >>

 

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Dear Misra ji/ Lajmi ji,Sorry for the interruption ! You have said.....//I was not asking rules relating to first child birth and its gender. The following method have been found unreliabe.Take my own example.DOB- 20.04.1959, TOB-8:15: 56,POB-BASTI( U.P),Ayanamsa adopted K.P.Sub lord of ascendant-Ve, Sub-Sub lord Saturn.Apply Sunil Gondhalkar's method and you will find it BigZero.You know me well.sub sub lord is posited in a star lord of which

is Venus and venus is posited in Taurus a female sign.Rule failed here.//As per the birth details given, sub lord of Asc is Ven. Now sub lord of Ven (i.e. sub lord of the sub lord of Asc) is Rahu and not Saturn. Rahu is situated in the star of Moon and Moon is deposited in Leo, a male sign (in your Natal chart). So the gender of the native should be Male as stated in the rule. So the Rule, if stated correctly, does not fail. My interpretation of the Rule is: 1. Sub lord of Asc is .......Ven2. Sub lord of sub lord of Asc i.e. Ven is........Rahu ( Ven is in Taurus sign, Moon star and Rahu sub.......thus sub lord of Ven is Rah)3. Rahu is in the star of Moon {making Moon as star lord of the sub lord (Rah) of the sub of Asc (Ven)}4. Moon is in Leo a male sign.Please correct me, if I am wrong. Regards,Subhash EktareDhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra Cc: YogeshlajmiSent: Sun, January 31, 2010 8:06:45 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

Respected Lajmi Sir,I wanted to know perfect rules which indicate gender of native who are already born and whose birth charts are before us.

 

I was not asking rules relating to first child birth and its gender. The following method have been found unreliabe.

Take my own example.DOB- 20.04.1959, TOB-8:15: 56,POB-BASTI( U.P),Ayanamsa adopted K.P.Sub lord of ascendant-Ve, Sub-Sub lord Saturn.Apply Sunil Gondhalkar's method and you will find it BigZero.You know me well.sub sub lord is posited in a star lord of which is Venus and venus is posited in Taurus a female sign.Rule failed here.

Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)[it is not found reliable.Sunil Gondhalkar's method) If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.Some times 8 planets are found posited in same sign and then this rule will indicate a common result for all natives.

With thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

amit desai <amitwho >@gro ups.comSat, January 30, 2010 8:35:02 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

Dear Mr. Yogeshji

 

after reading this mail of yours I instantly applied the rule in my and my wife's chart and in both it indicates Girl and this ndication is absolutely true.

 

well shall keep checking for more

 

Regards Amit Desai

 

 

 

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >@gro ups.comCc: Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>Fri, January 29, 2010 5:58:06 PMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

Dear Mr.Misra,

I have been using Gondhalekar' s method since it was first introduced and so far,I have got extremely accurate results..

The Rule is :

"If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Vth cusp,is posited in a star,whose lord is

posited in a Male Sign(ODD Sign), a boy will be born...of in a Female(Even Sign),a Female..."

Where is the question of eight planets as you hypothesise needlessly ?

Instead ,why don't you apply the Rule properly to a given actual case and then post it as an example...(It was prived right in the most recent case of Satishji's neice... !

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.comThu, 28 January, 2010 10:26:01 PMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

Dr.Anjana Agarwal Ji,How do you identify gender of unborn baby,if there is no perfect rule in this regard.You are requested to make it clear.This thread was opened by me but none of the members took interest to reveal perfect rule in this regard. Although I wanted to know perfect rules which indicate gender of native who are already born and whose birth charts are before us. TW JI has replied thus:Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards, TWDetermining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)[it is not found reliable] (Sunil Gondhalkar's method) If the sub-lord of the

sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.Some times 8 planets are found posited in same sign and then this rule will indicate a common result for all natives. With thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

DrAnjna Agarwal <anu0562 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.com; R Satish <rsatish1942@ ..com>Thu, January 28, 2010 7:40:00 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

Female child till 2/02/2010 sa-ju-ju-ra- sat

 

5th house sgl ma, stl me, sl me

ma stl ve sl mo, me st mo sl ra

me 5th CSL (10-3,12)stl mo(12,1), sl ra (2 (sgn su 10,2)), conj su (10,2), ve (10-4,11), aspected by sa in 1-7,8, ra in 2

 

12 and 8 house involved so possibility of caesarean is there

 

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Naresh Valecha <superstaar_n_ v wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Satish, If u say the child is to be born in a couple of days then the earliest possible time as per RP's is when Moon transits in its own sign Cancer in the Star-Sub of Mercury and its a Saturday. Mars being in Cancer too with Moon on that day indicates a caesarion birth of a female child.

Naresh Valecha --- On Wed, 27/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

 

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 11:04 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh,

The child is expected to be born any time now.Ceasarian or not ,time will tell.

Thank you for your effort.

 

Regards,

 

 

Satish--- On Tue, 1/26/10, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote:

 

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in>Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

@gro ups.comTuesday, January 26, 2010, 12:37 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Satish,

 

Your niece is expected to deliver a baby child after May 2010. Is it true ?

 

The delivery might be caesarean.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Tue, 26/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comTuesday, 26 January, 2010, 11:22 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramani,

My neice got married on March2,2006 at Delhi Time 0910 hrs. The child to be born ,would be her first child. BTR was not found necessary,in my opinion as lagna sublord Merc was related to Moon.

 

Regards,

 

Satish.

 

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comMonday, January 25, 2010, 12:01 PM



Dear Satishji,

 

I presume that it is her 1st delivery. Have you rectified Birth

time? When was her marriage?

 

With best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

- R Satish

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 22, 2010 1:18 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Dear TW,

 

This group's attempt is to predict the gender, a path which KSK avoided.

 

My neice's case is an oppurtunity:

 

1. to list and apply the various formulae for gender identification.

 

2. to predict the date of the birth of the child waiting to be born.

 

 

I am waiting for our friends to avail this chance to move forward.It does not

 

really matter if you are off the mark.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comThursday, January 21, 2010, 11:10 PM

Dear Satish,Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards,TW@gro ups.com, R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote:>>  Dear Friends,>  >                      For those interested in trying their hand , in a live case study.>  >  My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.>  >  Birth details May

29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar). >  >  1. When will she deliver?>  >  2. What will be the gender of the child?>  >     I failed,so I request the group.>  >         Regards,>  >           Satish>  > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14

PM> > >  > > > > Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) > Child Gender Prediction Analysis> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1> I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...> KP Reader IV p 236 last para> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir &  Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > If the sub-lord of the

sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.> > > > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)> > Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In "Astrololgy & Atrishta" magazine April 1980.> > 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> >

  > >

 > > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > >  > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> >  > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > >  > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> >

 (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> >  (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> >  (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > >  > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> >  Set - 2> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> >  and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> >  > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis

is given against their birth particulars:> >  > >  > > Set - I> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> >  My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified

time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and  whose lord is situated in a male sign or in female sign.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > @gro ups.com> > Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> > > >  > > Dear Mishra ji,> >

//Respected Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime..I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying  gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /> > Kind Sir..> > I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra

ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...> > In your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the "already born".> > I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..> > Again even if you like to test the "already tested" rules, on persons who have been "already born", may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> >  > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time

for

research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark. > > > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country. > > > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > > > Sorry please ignore my

mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. > > > > > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Seniors,> > > >                              I have read some where that :> > > >

                                                                       (1)Gender of native can be

identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.> > > >

                                                                       (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of

the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.> > > >

                                                                       (3) I have been challenged by some one

& given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> > > >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > > > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM>

> > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> > > > Set - 2> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given

against their birth particulars:> > > > > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > > >

> Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > >> >>

 

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Dear Sirs,If the star lord of the sublrod of the sublord of the Asc., is posited in Male sign or female sign, the sex is male or female respectively.IT IS NOT CORRECT ALL THE TIMES.NO RULE IS GIVING CONSTANT CORRECT RESULTS IN THE FINDING THE GENDRE.

As this is 50% possibility in any case ( as either male or female), we can not just confirm one method is correct.Even if we take up the compilation of many methods and check for the sex, even then there is an error.

I used to check the all the corulers and their type(male or female) , their occupation, and the RPs and so on... But success is only 50% which is equal even if one says without any rules also.For example, the 7th is for the partner and also he second baby.

For the male, the 7th CSL should be connected to female only, since his partner could be female as per the rule. But we cant expect this.Hope we have to add this topic is also in the research list along with the BTR and many others.

Thanks and RegardsAdithOn Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:03 AM, Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Misra ji/ Lajmi ji,Sorry for the interruption ! You have said.....

//I was not asking rules relating to first child birth and its gender. The following method have been found unreliabe.Take my own example.DOB- 20.04.1959, TOB-8:15: 56,POB-BASTI( U.P),Ayanamsa adopted K.P.Sub lord of ascendant-Ve, Sub-Sub lord Saturn.Apply Sunil Gondhalkar's method and you will find it BigZero.You know me well.sub sub lord is posited in a star lord of which

is Venus and venus is posited in Taurus a female sign.Rule failed here.//As per the birth details given, sub lord of Asc is Ven.  Now sub lord of Ven (i.e. sub lord of the sub lord of Asc) is Rahu and not Saturn.  Rahu is situated in the star of Moon and Moon is deposited in Leo, a male sign (in your Natal chart). So the gender of the native should be Male as stated in the rule. So the Rule, if stated correctly, does not fail.  

My interpretation of the Rule is:  

1. Sub lord of Asc is .......Ven

2. Sub lord of sub lord of Asc i.e. Ven  is........Rahu ( Ven is in Taurus sign, Moon star and Rahu sub.......thus sub lord of Ven is Rah)

3. Rahu is in the star of Moon {making Moon as star lord of the sub lord (Rah) of the sub of Asc (Ven)}

4. Moon is in Leo a male sign.

Please correct me, if I am wrong. 

Regards,Subhash Ektare

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra

Cc: Yogeshlajmi

Sun, January 31, 2010 8:06:45 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

Respected Lajmi Sir,I wanted to know perfect rules which indicate gender of native who are already born and whose birth charts are before us.

 

 

I was not asking rules relating to first child birth and its gender. The following method have been found unreliabe.

Take my own example.DOB- 20.04.1959, TOB-8:15: 56,POB-BASTI( U.P),Ayanamsa adopted K.P.Sub lord of ascendant-Ve, Sub-Sub lord Saturn.Apply Sunil Gondhalkar's method and you will find it BigZero.You know me well.sub sub lord is posited in a star lord of which is Venus and venus is posited in Taurus a female sign.Rule failed here.

Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)[it is not found reliable.Sunil Gondhalkar's method) If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.

Some times 8 planets are found posited in same sign and then this rule will indicate a common result for all natives.

With thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

amit desai <amitwho >@gro ups.com

Sat, January 30, 2010 8:35:02 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr. Yogeshji

 

after reading this mail of yours I instantly applied the rule in my and my wife's  chart and in both it indicates Girl and this ndication is absolutely true.

 

well shall keep checking for more

 

Regards Amit Desai

 

 

 

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >@gro ups.com

Cc: Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>Fri, January 29, 2010 5:58:06 PM

Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother 

 

 

Dear Mr.Misra,

                        I have been using Gondhalekar' s method since it was  first introduced and so far,I have got extremely accurate results..

                       The Rule is :

                       " If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Vth cusp,is posited in a star,whose lord is 

posited in a Male Sign(ODD Sign), a boy will be born...of in a Female(Even Sign),a Female... "

                      Where is the question of eight planets as you hypothesise needlessly ?

                      Instead ,why don't you apply the Rule properly to a given actual case and then post it as an example...(It was prived right in the most recent case of Satishji's neice... !

                      With best wishes,

                       Yogesh Lajmi.

         

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.com

Thu, 28 January, 2010 10:26:01 PMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

Dr.Anjana Agarwal Ji,How do you identify gender of unborn baby,if there is no perfect rule in this regard.You are requested to make it clear.This thread was opened by me but none of the members took interest to reveal perfect rule in this regard. Although I wanted to know perfect rules which indicate gender of native who are already born and whose birth charts are before us. TW JI has replied thus:Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards, TW

Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)[it is not found reliable] (Sunil Gondhalkar's method) If the sub-lord of the

sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.Some times 8 planets are found posited in same sign and then this rule will indicate a common result for all natives. 

With thanks & regards, 

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

DrAnjna Agarwal <anu0562 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.com; R Satish <rsatish1942@ ..com>

Thu, January 28, 2010 7:40:00 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

Female child till 2/02/2010 sa-ju-ju-ra- sat

 

5th house sgl ma, stl me, sl me

ma stl ve sl mo, me st mo sl ra

me 5th CSL (10-3,12)stl mo(12,1), sl ra (2 (sgn su 10,2)), conj su (10,2), ve (10-4,11), aspected by sa in 1-7,8, ra in 2

 

12 and 8 house involved so possibility of caesarean is there

 

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Naresh Valecha <superstaar_n_ v wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Satish, If u say the child is to be born in a couple of days then the earliest possible time as per RP's is when Moon transits in its own sign Cancer in the Star-Sub of Mercury and its a Saturday. Mars being in Cancer too with Moon on that day indicates a caesarion birth of a female child.

Naresh Valecha --- On Wed, 27/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

 

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

@gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 11:04 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

   Dear Ramesh,

                         The child is expected to be born any time now.Ceasarian or not ,time will tell.

                        Thank you for your effort.

 

                        Regards,

 

 

                         Satish--- On Tue, 1/26/10, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote:

 

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in>Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

@gro ups.comTuesday, January 26, 2010, 12:37 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Satish,

 

Your niece is expected to deliver a baby child after May 2010. Is it true ?

 

The delivery might be caesarean.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Tue, 26/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

 

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

@gro ups.comTuesday, 26 January, 2010, 11:22 AM

 

 

 

 

 

    Dear Ramani,

                       My neice got married on March2,2006 at Delhi Time 0910 hrs. The child to be born ,would be her first child. BTR was not found necessary,in my opinion as lagna sublord Merc was related to Moon.

 

                       Regards,

 

                       Satish.

 

                           --- On Mon, 1/25/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

@gro ups.comMonday, January 25, 2010, 12:01 PM

 



Dear Satishji,

 

I presume that it is her 1st delivery.  Have you rectified Birth

time? When was her marriage?

 

With best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

- R Satish

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 22, 2010 1:18 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

 

   Dear TW,

 

                     This group's attempt is to predict the gender, a path which KSK avoided.

 

                     My neice's case is an oppurtunity:

 

                    1. to list and apply the various formulae for gender identification.

 

                    2. to predict the date of the birth of the child waiting to be born.

 

 

                    I am waiting for our friends to avail this chance to move forward.It does not

 

                    really matter if you are off the mark.

 

 

 

                   Regards,

 

                    Satish

 

                 --- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

@gro ups.comThursday, January 21, 2010, 11:10 PM

 

Dear Satish,Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.

Regards,TW@gro ups.com, R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote:

>>   Dear Friends,>  >                       For those interested  in trying their hand  , in  a  live case study.>  >   My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.

>  >  Birth details May

29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar). >  >  1. When will she deliver?>  >  2. What will be the gender of the child?>  >       I failed,so I request the group.>  

>          Regards,>  >           Satish>  > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14

PM> > >   > > > > Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) > Child Gender Prediction Analysis> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1

> I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...> KP Reader IV p 236 last para> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir &  Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)

> > (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > If the sub-lord of the

sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.> > > > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621

> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)> > Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In " Astrololgy & Atrishta " magazine April 1980.

> > 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> >

  > >

 > > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are  born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:

> >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. 

> >  > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> >  > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  

> >  > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> >

 (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> >  (3)  7-10-1972 12:30AM> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> >  (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM

> >  (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > >  > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)

> >  Set - 2> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> >  and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> >  > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis

is given against their birth particulars:> >  > >  > > Set - I> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM      Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> >  (3)  7-10-1972 12:30AM    Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)

> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM   Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM   Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM   Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) 

> > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM   Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> >  My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified

time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and  whose lord is situated in a male sign or in  female sign.

> > > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

> > @gro ups.com> > Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

> > > >   > > Dear Mishra ji,> >

//Respected Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime..I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying  gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /

> > Kind Sir..> > I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra

ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...> > In your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the " already born " .> > I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..

> > Again even if you like to test the  " already tested " rules, on persons who have been " already born " , may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?> > best regards,

> > Bhaskar.> >  > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time

for

research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark. > > > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ?

> > > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country.

> > > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > > > Sorry please ignore my

mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. > > > > > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:

> > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Seniors,> > > >                               I have read some where that :

> > > >

                                                                        (1)Gender of native can be

identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.

> > > >

                                                                        (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of

the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.

> > > >

                                                                        (3) I have been challenged by some one

& given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are  born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> > > >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother.

> > > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  

> > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM>

> > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > > (3)  7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM

> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that:

> > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> > > > Set - 2> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)

> > > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given

against their birth particulars:> > > > > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM      Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > > (3)  7-10-1972 12:30AM    Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)

> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM   Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM   Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)

> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM   Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM   Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > > >

> Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > >> >

>

 

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Dear Subash, You seem to have got the formula differently.If you could present the case in totality we would understand better. I have got different values for Lagna Taurus21-59-59.using Jyotish Deepika SW 1. Lagna 21-59-59 is Ven,Moon,Ven,Jup Ayanamsa New23-11-57 2. Sub-sub Jup® Scorp 7-14-5 Mar,Sat.Ven,Sat 3.sub sub Sat® in Sagg 13-51-20 Jup,Ven,Ven Moon. 4.starlord of Sat

Ven is in Taurus 12-59-16 an even sign hence female gender. Subject is a Male.

Conclusion. Either the formula does not apply or else Birth time needs correction Regards, Satish --- On Mon, 2/1/10, Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare wrote:Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektareRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real

sisters and brothers,status of father/mother Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 5:03 AM

 

 

Dear Misra ji/ Lajmi ji,Sorry for the interruption ! You have said.....//I was not asking rules relating to first child birth and its gender. The following method have been found unreliabe.Take my own example.DOB- 20.04.1959, TOB-8:15: 56,POB-BASTI( U.P),Ayanamsa adopted K.P.Sub lord of ascendant-Ve, Sub-Sub lord Saturn.Apply Sunil Gondhalkar's method and you will find it BigZero.You know me well.sub sub lord is posited in a star lord of which

is Venus and venus is posited in Taurus a female sign.Rule failed here.//As per the birth details given, sub lord of Asc is Ven. Now sub lord of Ven (i.e. sub lord of the sub lord of Asc) is Rahu and not Saturn. Rahu is situated in the star of Moon and Moon is deposited in Leo, a male sign (in your Natal chart). So the gender of the native should be Male as stated in the rule. So the Rule, if stated correctly, does not fail. My interpretation of the Rule is: 1. Sub lord of Asc is .......Ven2. Sub lord of sub lord of Asc i.e. Ven is........Rahu ( Ven is in Taurus

sign, Moon star and Rahu sub.......thus sub lord of Ven is Rah)3. Rahu is in the star of Moon {making Moon as star lord of the sub lord (Rah) of the sub of Asc (Ven)}4. Moon is in Leo a male sign.Please correct me, if I am wrong. Regards,Subhash EktareDhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.comCc: Yogeshlajmi@ Sun, January 31, 2010 8:06:45 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

Respected Lajmi Sir,I wanted to know perfect rules which indicate gender of native who are already born and whose birth charts are before us.

 

I was not asking rules relating to first child birth and its gender. The following method have been found unreliabe.

Take my own example.DOB- 20.04.1959, TOB-8:15: 56,POB-BASTI( U.P),Ayanamsa adopted K.P.Sub lord of ascendant-Ve, Sub-Sub lord Saturn.Apply Sunil Gondhalkar's method and you will find it BigZero.You know me well.sub sub lord is posited in a star lord of which is Venus and venus is posited in Taurus a female sign.Rule failed here.

Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)[it is not found reliable.Sunil Gondhalkar's method) If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.Some times 8 planets are found posited in same sign and then this rule will indicate a common result for all natives.

With thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

amit desai <amitwho >@gro ups.comSat, January 30, 2010 8:35:02 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

Dear Mr. Yogeshji

 

after reading this mail of yours I instantly applied the rule in my and my wife's chart and in both it indicates Girl and this ndication is absolutely true.

 

well shall keep checking for more

 

Regards Amit Desai

 

 

 

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >@gro ups.comCc: Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>Fri, January 29, 2010 5:58:06 PMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

Dear Mr.Misra,

I have been using Gondhalekar' s method since it was first introduced and so far,I have got extremely accurate results..

The Rule is :

"If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Vth cusp,is posited in a star,whose lord is

posited in a Male Sign(ODD Sign), a boy will be born...of in a Female(Even Sign),a Female..."

Where is the question of eight planets as you hypothesise needlessly ?

Instead ,why don't you apply the Rule properly to a given actual case and then post it as an example...(It was prived right in the most recent case of Satishji's neice... !

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.comThu, 28 January, 2010 10:26:01 PMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

Dr.Anjana Agarwal Ji,How do you identify gender of unborn baby,if there is no perfect rule in this regard.You are requested to make it clear.This thread was opened by me but none of the members took interest to reveal perfect rule in this regard. Although I wanted to know perfect rules which indicate gender of native who are already born and whose birth charts are before us. TW JI has replied thus:Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards, TWDetermining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)[it is not found reliable] (Sunil Gondhalkar's method) If the sub-lord of the

sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.Some times 8 planets are found posited in same sign and then this rule will indicate a common result for all natives. With thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

DrAnjna Agarwal <anu0562 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.com; R Satish <rsatish1942@ ..com>Thu, January 28, 2010 7:40:00 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

Female child till 2/02/2010 sa-ju-ju-ra- sat

 

5th house sgl ma, stl me, sl me

ma stl ve sl mo, me st mo sl ra

me 5th CSL (10-3,12)stl mo(12,1), sl ra (2 (sgn su 10,2)), conj su (10,2), ve (10-4,11), aspected by sa in 1-7,8, ra in 2

 

12 and 8 house involved so possibility of caesarean is there

 

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Naresh Valecha <superstaar_n_ v wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Satish, If u say the child is to be born in a couple of days then the earliest possible time as per RP's is when Moon transits in its own sign Cancer in the Star-Sub of Mercury and its a Saturday. Mars being in Cancer too with Moon on that day indicates a caesarion birth of a female child.

Naresh Valecha --- On Wed, 27/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

 

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 11:04 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh,

The child is expected to be born any time now.Ceasarian or not ,time will tell.

Thank you for your effort.

 

Regards,

 

 

Satish--- On Tue, 1/26/10, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote:

 

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in>Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

@gro ups.comTuesday, January 26, 2010, 12:37 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Satish,

 

Your niece is expected to deliver a baby child after May 2010. Is it true ?

 

The delivery might be caesarean.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Tue, 26/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comTuesday, 26 January, 2010, 11:22 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramani,

My neice got married on March2,2006 at Delhi Time 0910 hrs. The child to be born ,would be her first child. BTR was not found necessary,in my opinion as lagna sublord Merc was related to Moon.

 

Regards,

 

Satish.

 

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comMonday, January 25, 2010, 12:01 PM



Dear Satishji,

 

I presume that it is her 1st delivery. Have you rectified Birth

time? When was her marriage?

 

With best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

- R Satish

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 22, 2010 1:18 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Dear TW,

 

This group's attempt is to predict the gender, a path which KSK avoided.

 

My neice's case is an oppurtunity:

 

1. to list and apply the various formulae for gender identification.

 

2. to predict the date of the birth of the child waiting to be born.

 

 

I am waiting for our friends to avail this chance to move forward.It does not

 

really matter if you are off the mark.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comThursday, January 21, 2010, 11:10 PM

Dear Satish,Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards,TW@gro ups.com, R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote:>>  Dear Friends,>  >                      For those interested in trying their hand , in a live case study.>  >  My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.>  >  Birth details May

29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar). >  >  1. When will she deliver?>  >  2. What will be the gender of the child?>  >     I failed,so I request the group.>  >         Regards,>  >           Satish>  > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14

PM> > >  > > > > Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) > Child Gender Prediction Analysis> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1> I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...> KP Reader IV p 236 last para> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir &  Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > If the sub-lord of the

sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.> > > > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)> > Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In "Astrololgy & Atrishta" magazine April 1980.> > 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> >

  > >

 > > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > >  > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> >  > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > >  > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> >

 (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> >  (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> >  (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > >  > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> >  Set - 2> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> >  and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> >  > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis

is given against their birth particulars:> >  > >  > > Set - I> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> >  My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified

time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and  whose lord is situated in a male sign or in female sign.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > @gro ups.com> > Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> > > >  > > Dear Mishra ji,> >

//Respected Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime..I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying  gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /> > Kind Sir..> > I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra

ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...> > In your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the "already born".> > I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..> > Again even if you like to test the "already tested" rules, on persons who have been "already born", may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> >  > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time

for

research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark. > > > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country. > > > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > > > Sorry please ignore my

mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. > > > > > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Seniors,> > > >                              I have read some where that :> > > >

                                                                       (1)Gender of native can be

identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.> > > >

                                                                       (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of

the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.> > > >

                                                                       (3) I have been challenged by some one

& given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> > > >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > > > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM>

> > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> > > > Set - 2> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given

against their birth particulars:> > > > > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > > >

> Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > >> >>

 

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Dear Subhash Ektare Ji,It must apply in all cases,If your interpretation is correct or formula is correct.

Here is another example of my son:DOB-06.04.1998,POB-Haldwani,Longitude-79E31,Latitude-29N13TOB-10:10:48AM.

Sub lord of ascendant-Venus

Sub lord of Venus -Moon

Moon is posited in a star lord of which is Mercury

Mercury is posited in pisces a female sign.But native is Male

What happend to rule?

with thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

R Satish <rsatish1942 Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 10:39:17 PMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Subash,

 

You seem to have got the formula differently. If you could present the case in totality we would understand better. I have got different values for Lagna Taurus21-59- 59.using Jyotish Deepika SW

 

1. Lagna 21-59-59 is Ven,Moon,Ven, Jup Ayanamsa New23-11-57

 

2. Sub-sub Jup® Scorp 7-14-5 Mar,Sat.Ven, Sat

 

3.sub sub Sat® in Sagg 13-51-20 Jup,Ven,Ven Moon.

 

4.starlord of Sat Ven is in Taurus 12-59-16 an even sign hence female gender. Subject is a Male.

 

 

Conclusion. Either the formula does not apply or else

 

Birth time needs correction

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

--- On Mon, 2/1/10, Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare@ > wrote:

Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comMonday, February 1, 2010, 5:03 AM

 

 

Dear Misra ji/ Lajmi ji,

 

Sorry for the interruption ! You have said.....

 

//I was not asking rules relating to first child birth and its gender. The following method have been found unreliabe.

Take my own example.DOB- 20.04.1959, TOB-8:15: 56,POB-BASTI( U.P),Ayanamsa adopted K.P.Sub lord of ascendant-Ve, Sub-Sub lord Saturn.Apply Sunil Gondhalkar's method and you will find it BigZero.You know me well.sub sub lord is posited in a star lord of which is Venus and venus is posited in Taurus a female sign.Rule failed here.//

 

As per the birth details given, sub lord of Asc is Ven. Now sub lord of Ven (i.e. sub lord of the sub lord of Asc) is Rahu and not Saturn. Rahu is situated in the star of Moon and Moon is deposited in Leo, a male sign (in your Natal chart). So the gender of the native should be Male as stated in the rule. So the Rule, if stated correctly, does not fail.

 

My interpretation of the Rule is:

 

1. Sub lord of Asc is .......Ven

 

2. Sub lord of sub lord of Asc i.e. Ven is........Rahu ( Ven is in Taurus sign, Moon star and Rahu sub.......thus sub lord of Ven is Rah)

 

3. Rahu is in the star of Moon {making Moon as star lord of the sub lord (Rah) of the sub of Asc (Ven)}

 

4. Moon is in Leo a male sign.

 

Please correct me, if I am wrong.

 

Regards,

Subhash Ektare

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.comCc: Yogeshlajmi@ Sun, January 31, 2010 8:06:45 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

Respected Lajmi Sir,I wanted to know perfect rules which indicate gender of native who are already born and whose birth charts are before us.

 

I was not asking rules relating to first child birth and its gender. The following method have been found unreliabe.

Take my own example.DOB- 20.04.1959, TOB-8:15: 56,POB-BASTI( U.P),Ayanamsa adopted K.P.Sub lord of ascendant-Ve, Sub-Sub lord Saturn.Apply Sunil Gondhalkar's method and you will find it BigZero.You know me well.sub sub lord is posited in a star lord of which is Venus and venus is posited in Taurus a female sign.Rule failed here.

Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)[it is not found reliable.Sunil Gondhalkar's method) If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.Some times 8 planets are found posited in same sign and then this rule will indicate a common result for all natives.

With thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

amit desai <amitwho >@gro ups.comSat, January 30, 2010 8:35:02 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

Dear Mr. Yogeshji

 

after reading this mail of yours I instantly applied the rule in my and my wife's chart and in both it indicates Girl and this ndication is absolutely true.

 

well shall keep checking for more

 

Regards Amit Desai

 

 

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >@gro ups.comCc: Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>Fri, January 29, 2010 5:58:06 PMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

Dear Mr.Misra,

I have been using Gondhalekar' s method since it was first introduced and so far,I have got extremely accurate results..

The Rule is :

"If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Vth cusp,is posited in a star,whose lord is

posited in a Male Sign(ODD Sign), a boy will be born...of in a Female(Even Sign),a Female..."

Where is the question of eight planets as you hypothesise needlessly ?

Instead ,why don't you apply the Rule properly to a given actual case and then post it as an example...(It was prived right in the most recent case of Satishji's neice... !

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.comThu, 28 January, 2010 10:26:01 PMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

Dr.Anjana Agarwal Ji,How do you identify gender of unborn baby,if there is no perfect rule in this regard.You are requested to make it clear.This thread was opened by me but none of the members took interest to reveal perfect rule in this regard. Although I wanted to know perfect rules which indicate gender of native who are already born and whose birth charts are before us. TW JI has replied thus:Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards, TWDetermining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)[it is not found reliable] (Sunil Gondhalkar's method) If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.Some times 8 planets are found posited in same sign and then this rule will indicate a common result for all natives. With thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

DrAnjna Agarwal <anu0562 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.com; R Satish <rsatish1942@ ..com>Thu, January 28, 2010 7:40:00 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

Female child till 2/02/2010 sa-ju-ju-ra- sat

 

5th house sgl ma, stl me, sl me

ma stl ve sl mo, me st mo sl ra

me 5th CSL (10-3,12)stl mo(12,1), sl ra (2 (sgn su 10,2)), conj su (10,2), ve (10-4,11), aspected by sa in 1-7,8, ra in 2

 

12 and 8 house involved so possibility of caesarean is there

 

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Naresh Valecha <superstaar_n_ v wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Satish, If u say the child is to be born in a couple of days then the earliest possible time as per RP's is when Moon transits in its own sign Cancer in the Star-Sub of Mercury and its a Saturday. Mars being in Cancer too with Moon on that day indicates a caesarion birth of a female child.

Naresh Valecha --- On Wed, 27/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

 

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 11:04 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh,

The child is expected to be born any time now.Ceasarian or not ,time will tell.

Thank you for your effort.

 

Regards,

 

 

Satish--- On Tue, 1/26/10, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote:

 

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in>Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

@gro ups.comTuesday, January 26, 2010, 12:37 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Satish,

 

Your niece is expected to deliver a baby child after May 2010. Is it true ?

 

The delivery might be caesarean.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Tue, 26/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comTuesday, 26 January, 2010, 11:22 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramani,

My neice got married on March2,2006 at Delhi Time 0910 hrs. The child to be born ,would be her first child. BTR was not found necessary,in my opinion as lagna sublord Merc was related to Moon.

 

Regards,

 

Satish.

 

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comMonday, January 25, 2010, 12:01 PM



Dear Satishji,

 

I presume that it is her 1st delivery. Have you rectified Birth

time? When was her marriage?

 

With best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

- R Satish

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 22, 2010 1:18 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Dear TW,

 

This group's attempt is to predict the gender, a path which KSK avoided.

 

My neice's case is an oppurtunity:

 

1. to list and apply the various formulae for gender identification.

 

2. to predict the date of the birth of the child waiting to be born.

 

 

I am waiting for our friends to avail this chance to move forward.It does not

 

really matter if you are off the mark.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comThursday, January 21, 2010, 11:10 PM

Dear Satish,Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards,TW@gro ups.com, R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote:>>  Dear Friends,>  >                      For those interested in trying their hand , in a live case study.>  >  My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.>  >  Birth details May

29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar). >  >  1. When will she deliver?>  >  2. What will be the gender of the child?>  >     I failed,so I request the group.>  >         Regards,>  >           Satish>  > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14

PM> > >  > > > > Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) > Child Gender Prediction Analysis> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1> I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...> KP Reader IV p 236 last para> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir &  Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.> > > > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)> > Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In "Astrololgy & Atrishta" magazine April 1980.> > 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> >   > >

 > > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > >  > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> >  > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > >  > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> >

 (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> >  (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> >  (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > >  > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> >  Set - 2> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> >  and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> >  > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis

is given against their birth particulars:> >  > >  > > Set - I> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> >  My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified

time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and  whose lord is situated in a male sign or in female sign.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > @gro ups.com> > Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> > > >  > > Dear Mishra ji,> >

//Respected Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime..I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying  gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /> > Kind Sir..> > I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra

ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...> > In your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the "already born".> > I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..> > Again even if you like to test the "already tested" rules, on persons who have been "already born", may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> >  > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for

research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark. > > > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country. > > > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > > > Sorry please ignore my

mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. > > > > > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Seniors,> > > >                              I have read some where that :> > > >

                                                                       (1)Gender of native can be

identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.> > > >

                                                                       (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of

the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.> > > >

                                                                       (3) I have been challenged by some one

& given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> > > >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > > > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM>

> > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> > > > Set - 2> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given

against their birth particulars:> > > > > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > > >

> Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > >> >>

 

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//If the star lord of the sublrod of the sublord of the Asc., is posited in Male sign or female sign, the sex is male or female respectively.Subhash Ektare Ji :IT IS NOT CORRECT ALL THE TIMES.//It must apply in all cases,If your interpretation is correct or formula is correct.

 

Here is another example of my son:DOB-06.04.1998,POB-Haldwani,Longitude-79E31,Latitude-29N13TOB-10:10:48AM.Ayanamsa-KNA,Software-KP StarOne

Sub lord of ascendant-Venus

Sub lord of Venus -Moon

Moon is posited in a star lord of which is Mercury

Mercury is posited in pisces a female sign.But native is Male

What happend to rule?

with thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 12:26:54 PMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

Dear Sirs,If the star lord of the sublrod of the sublord of the Asc., is posited in Male sign or female sign, the sex is male or female respectively.IT IS NOT CORRECT ALL THE TIMES.NO RULE IS GIVING CONSTANT CORRECT RESULTS IN THE FINDING THE GENDRE.As this is 50% possibility in any case ( as either male or female), we can not just confirm one method is correct.Even if we take up the compilation of many methods and check for the sex, even then there is an error. I used to check the all the corulers and their type(male or female) , their occupation, and the RPs and so on... But success is only 50% which is equal even if one says without any rules also.For example, the 7th is for the partner and also he second baby.For the male, the 7th CSL should be connected to female only, since his partner could be female as per the rule. But we cant expect this.Hope we have to add this topic is also in the

research list along with the BTR and many others.Thanks and RegardsAdith

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:03 AM, Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Misra ji/ Lajmi ji,

 

Sorry for the interruption ! You have said.....

 

//I was not asking rules relating to first child birth and its gender. The following method have been found unreliabe.

Take my own example.DOB- 20.04.1959, TOB-8:15: 56,POB-BASTI( U.P),Ayanamsa adopted K.P.Sub lord of ascendant-Ve, Sub-Sub lord Saturn.Apply Sunil Gondhalkar's method and you will find it BigZero.You know me well.sub sub lord is posited in a star lord of which is Venus and venus is posited in Taurus a female sign.Rule failed here.//

 

As per the birth details given, sub lord of Asc is Ven. Now sub lord of Ven (i.e. sub lord of the sub lord of Asc) is Rahu and not Saturn. Rahu is situated in the star of Moon and Moon is deposited in Leo, a male sign (in your Natal chart). So the gender of the native should be Male as stated in the rule. So the Rule, if stated correctly, does not fail.

 

My interpretation of the Rule is:

 

1. Sub lord of Asc is .......Ven

 

2. Sub lord of sub lord of Asc i.e. Ven is........Rahu ( Ven is in Taurus sign, Moon star and Rahu sub.......thus sub lord of Ven is Rah)

 

3. Rahu is in the star of Moon {making Moon as star lord of the sub lord (Rah) of the sub of Asc (Ven)}

 

4. Moon is in Leo a male sign.

 

Please correct me, if I am wrong.

 

Regards,

Subhash Ektare

 

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.comCc: Yogeshlajmi@ Sun, January 31, 2010 8:06:45 AM

Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

Respected Lajmi Sir,

I wanted to know perfect rules which indicate gender of native who are already born and whose birth charts are before us.

 

 

I was not asking rules relating to first child birth and its gender. The following method have been found unreliabe.

Take my own example.DOB- 20.04.1959, TOB-8:15: 56,POB-BASTI( U.P),Ayanamsa adopted K.P.Sub lord of ascendant-Ve, Sub-Sub lord Saturn.Apply Sunil Gondhalkar's method and you will find it BigZero.You know me well.sub sub lord is posited in a star lord of which is Venus and venus is posited in Taurus a female sign.Rule failed here.

Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)[it is not found reliable.Sunil Gondhalkar's method) If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.Some times 8 planets are found posited in same sign and then this rule will indicate a common result for all natives.

With thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

 

amit desai <amitwho >@gro ups.com

 

 

Sat, January 30, 2010 8:35:02 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr. Yogeshji

 

after reading this mail of yours I instantly applied the rule in my and my wife's chart and in both it indicates Girl and this ndication is absolutely true.

 

well shall keep checking for more

 

Regards Amit Desai

 

 

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >@gro ups.comCc: Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>Fri, January 29, 2010 5:58:06 PMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

Dear Mr.Misra,

I have been using Gondhalekar' s method since it was first introduced and so far,I have got extremely accurate results..

The Rule is :

"If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Vth cusp,is posited in a star,whose lord is

posited in a Male Sign(ODD Sign), a boy will be born...of in a Female(Even Sign),a Female..."

Where is the question of eight planets as you hypothesise needlessly ?

Instead ,why don't you apply the Rule properly to a given actual case and then post it as an example...(It was prived right in the most recent case of Satishji's neice... !

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.comThu, 28 January, 2010 10:26:01 PMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

Dr.Anjana Agarwal Ji,How do you identify gender of unborn baby,if there is no perfect rule in this regard.You are requested to make it clear.This thread was opened by me but none of the members took interest to reveal perfect rule in this regard. Although I wanted to know perfect rules which indicate gender of native who are already born and whose birth charts are before us. TW JI has replied thus:Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards, TWDetermining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)[it is not found reliable] (Sunil Gondhalkar's method) If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a

star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.Some times 8 planets are found posited in same sign and then this rule will indicate a common result for all natives. With thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

DrAnjna Agarwal <anu0562 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.com; R Satish <rsatish1942@ ..com>Thu, January 28, 2010 7:40:00 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

Female child till 2/02/2010 sa-ju-ju-ra- sat

 

5th house sgl ma, stl me, sl me

ma stl ve sl mo, me st mo sl ra

me 5th CSL (10-3,12)stl mo(12,1), sl ra (2 (sgn su 10,2)), conj su (10,2), ve (10-4,11), aspected by sa in 1-7,8, ra in 2

 

12 and 8 house involved so possibility of caesarean is there

 

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Naresh Valecha <superstaar_n_ v wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Satish, If u say the child is to be born in a couple of days then the earliest possible time as per RP's is when Moon transits in its own sign Cancer in the Star-Sub of Mercury and its a Saturday. Mars being in Cancer too with Moon on that day indicates a caesarion birth of a female child.

Naresh Valecha --- On Wed, 27/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

 

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 11:04 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh,

The child is expected to be born any time now.Ceasarian or not ,time will tell.

Thank you for your effort.

 

Regards,

 

 

Satish--- On Tue, 1/26/10, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote:

 

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in>Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

@gro ups.comTuesday, January 26, 2010, 12:37 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Satish,

 

Your niece is expected to deliver a baby child after May 2010. Is it true ?

 

The delivery might be caesarean.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Tue, 26/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comTuesday, 26 January, 2010, 11:22 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramani,

My neice got married on March2,2006 at Delhi Time 0910 hrs. The child to be born ,would be her first child. BTR was not found necessary,in my opinion as lagna sublord Merc was related to Moon.

 

Regards,

 

Satish.

 

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comMonday, January 25, 2010, 12:01 PM



Dear Satishji,

 

I presume that it is her 1st delivery. Have you rectified Birth

time? When was her marriage?

 

With best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

- R Satish

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 22, 2010 1:18 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Dear TW,

 

This group's attempt is to predict the gender, a path which KSK avoided.

 

My neice's case is an oppurtunity:

 

1. to list and apply the various formulae for gender identification.

 

2. to predict the date of the birth of the child waiting to be born.

 

 

I am waiting for our friends to avail this chance to move forward.It does not

 

really matter if you are off the mark.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comThursday, January 21, 2010, 11:10 PM

Dear Satish,Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards,TW@gro ups.com, R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote:>>  Dear Friends,>  >                      For those interested in trying their hand , in a live case study.>  >  My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.>  >  Birth details May

29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar). >  >  1. When will she deliver?>  >  2. What will be the gender of the child?>  >     I failed,so I request the group.>  >         Regards,>  >           Satish>  > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14

PM> > >  > > > > Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) > Child Gender Prediction Analysis> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1> I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...> KP Reader IV p 236 last para> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir &  Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.> > > > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)> > Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In "Astrololgy & Atrishta" magazine April 1980.> > 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> >   > >

 > > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > >  > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> >  > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > >  > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> >

 (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> >  (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> >  (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > >  > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> >  Set - 2> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> >  and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> >  > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis

is given against their birth particulars:> >  > >  > > Set - I> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> >  My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified

time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and  whose lord is situated in a male sign or in female sign.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > @gro ups.com> > Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> > > >  > > Dear Mishra ji,> >

//Respected Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime..I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying  gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /> > Kind Sir..> > I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra

ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...> > In your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the "already born".> > I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..> > Again even if you like to test the "already tested" rules, on persons who have been "already born", may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> >  > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for

research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark. > > > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country. > > > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > > > Sorry please ignore my

mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. > > > > > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Seniors,> > > >                              I have read some where that :> > > >

                                                                       (1)Gender of native can be

identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.> > > >

                                                                       (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of

the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.> > > >

                                                                       (3) I have been challenged by some one

& given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> > > >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > > > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM>

> > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> > > > Set - 2> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given

against their birth particulars:> > > > > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > > >

> Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > >> >>

 

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Dear Satish ji,As per my s/w....Astro-Kundali......for DOB 20 April 1959 TOB 8:15:56 POB Basti (UP) 82 E 44 34; 26 N 47 42 (as per Google Earth)Lagna is Taurus 21-53-46 Ven-Moon-Ven-Sat Ayanamsha KP 23-11-31Rule given by Dhirendra Misra ji in his mail is reproduced below://Sunil Gondhalkar's method) If the sub-lord of the

sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.//As I understood the Rule.....there is no mention of sub-sub lord any where. Please note that it

says......the sub-lord (not sub-sub-lord) of the sub-lord (once again not the sub-sub-lord) of the AscendantHere sub-lord of the Asc is VenTherefore when we say sub-lord of the sub-lord of Asc it means sub-lord of Ven (who is the sub lord of Asc).Ven is in Taurus 12-59-38.......Ven-Moon-Rah-MerSub-lord of Ven is Rah..........This Rahu is posited in star of Moon (Rah in Virgo 19-05-02....Mer-Moon-Mer-Rah)Now, as per above rule if Moon is in male sign child will be male or else female. In this case Moon is posited in Leo a male sign so the native should be male according to me.Secondly, as far as I know, Mr. Gondhalekar ji has given a rule for determining the sex of a baby yet to be born by analyzing 5 CSL of mother (as against Asc sub lord in this case) and he never resorted to sub-sub

level unless warranted, that too, in very rare cases. Therefore, Mr Gondhalekar is the right person, in my humble opinion, to enlighten us regarding the Rule and my interpretation of the rule.RegardsSubhash Ektare R Satish <rsatish1942 Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 9:09:17 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

Dear Subash, You seem to have got the formula differently. If you could present the case in totality we would understand better. I have got different values for Lagna Taurus21-59- 59.using Jyotish Deepika SW 1. Lagna 21-59-59 is Ven,Moon,Ven, Jup Ayanamsa New23-11-57 2. Sub-sub Jup® Scorp 7-14-5 Mar,Sat.Ven, Sat 3.sub sub Sat® in Sagg 13-51-20 Jup,Ven,Ven Moon.

4.starlord of Sat

Ven is in Taurus 12-59-16 an even sign hence female gender. Subject is a Male.

Conclusion. Either the formula does not apply or else Birth time needs correction Regards, Satish --- On Mon, 2/1/10, Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare@ > wrote:Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real

sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comMonday, February 1, 2010, 5:03 AM

 

 

Dear Misra ji/ Lajmi ji,Sorry for the interruption ! You have said.....//I was not asking rules relating to first child birth and its gender. The following method have been found unreliabe.Take my own example.DOB- 20.04.1959, TOB-8:15: 56,POB-BASTI( U.P),Ayanamsa adopted K.P.Sub lord of ascendant-Ve, Sub-Sub lord Saturn.Apply Sunil Gondhalkar's method and you will find it BigZero.You know me well.sub sub lord is posited in a star lord of which

is Venus and venus is posited in Taurus a female sign.Rule failed here.//As per the birth details given, sub lord of Asc is Ven. Now sub lord of Ven (i.e. sub lord of the sub lord of Asc) is Rahu and not Saturn. Rahu is situated in the star of Moon and Moon is deposited in Leo, a male sign (in your Natal chart). So the gender of the native should be Male as stated in the rule. So the Rule, if stated correctly, does not fail. My interpretation of the Rule is: 1. Sub lord of Asc is .......Ven2. Sub lord of sub lord of Asc i.e. Ven is........Rahu ( Ven is in Taurus

sign, Moon star and Rahu sub.......thus sub lord of Ven is Rah)3. Rahu is in the star of Moon {making Moon as star lord of the sub lord (Rah) of the sub of Asc (Ven)}4. Moon is in Leo a male sign.Please correct me, if I am wrong. Regards,Subhash EktareDhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.comCc: Yogeshlajmi@ Sun, January 31, 2010 8:06:45 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

Respected Lajmi Sir,I wanted to know perfect rules which indicate gender of native who are already born and whose birth charts are before us.

 

I was not asking rules relating to first child birth and its gender. The following method have been found unreliabe.

Take my own example.DOB- 20.04.1959, TOB-8:15: 56,POB-BASTI( U.P),Ayanamsa adopted K.P.Sub lord of ascendant-Ve, Sub-Sub lord Saturn.Apply Sunil Gondhalkar's method and you will find it BigZero.You know me well.sub sub lord is posited in a star lord of which is Venus and venus is posited in Taurus a female sign.Rule failed here.

Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)[it is not found reliable.Sunil Gondhalkar's method) If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.Some times 8 planets are found posited in same sign and then this rule will indicate a common result for all natives.

With thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

amit desai <amitwho >@gro ups.comSat, January 30, 2010 8:35:02 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

Dear Mr. Yogeshji

 

after reading this mail of yours I instantly applied the rule in my and my wife's chart and in both it indicates Girl and this ndication is absolutely true.

 

well shall keep checking for more

 

Regards Amit Desai

 

 

 

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >@gro ups.comCc: Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>Fri, January 29, 2010 5:58:06 PMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

Dear Mr.Misra,

I have been using Gondhalekar' s method since it was first introduced and so far,I have got extremely accurate results..

The Rule is :

"If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Vth cusp,is posited in a star,whose lord is

posited in a Male Sign(ODD Sign), a boy will be born...of in a Female(Even Sign),a Female..."

Where is the question of eight planets as you hypothesise needlessly ?

Instead ,why don't you apply the Rule properly to a given actual case and then post it as an example...(It was prived right in the most recent case of Satishji's neice... !

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.comThu, 28 January, 2010 10:26:01 PMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

Dr.Anjana Agarwal Ji,How do you identify gender of unborn baby,if there is no perfect rule in this regard.You are requested to make it clear.This thread was opened by me but none of the members took interest to reveal perfect rule in this regard. Although I wanted to know perfect rules which indicate gender of native who are already born and whose birth charts are before us. TW JI has replied thus:Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards, TWDetermining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)[it is not found reliable] (Sunil Gondhalkar's method) If the sub-lord of the

sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.Some times 8 planets are found posited in same sign and then this rule will indicate a common result for all natives. With thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

DrAnjna Agarwal <anu0562 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.com; R Satish <rsatish1942@ ..com>Thu, January 28, 2010 7:40:00 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

Female child till 2/02/2010 sa-ju-ju-ra- sat

 

5th house sgl ma, stl me, sl me

ma stl ve sl mo, me st mo sl ra

me 5th CSL (10-3,12)stl mo(12,1), sl ra (2 (sgn su 10,2)), conj su (10,2), ve (10-4,11), aspected by sa in 1-7,8, ra in 2

 

12 and 8 house involved so possibility of caesarean is there

 

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Naresh Valecha <superstaar_n_ v wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Satish, If u say the child is to be born in a couple of days then the earliest possible time as per RP's is when Moon transits in its own sign Cancer in the Star-Sub of Mercury and its a Saturday. Mars being in Cancer too with Moon on that day indicates a caesarion birth of a female child.

Naresh Valecha --- On Wed, 27/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

 

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 11:04 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh,

The child is expected to be born any time now.Ceasarian or not ,time will tell.

Thank you for your effort.

 

Regards,

 

 

Satish--- On Tue, 1/26/10, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote:

 

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in>Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

@gro ups.comTuesday, January 26, 2010, 12:37 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Satish,

 

Your niece is expected to deliver a baby child after May 2010. Is it true ?

 

The delivery might be caesarean.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Tue, 26/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comTuesday, 26 January, 2010, 11:22 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramani,

My neice got married on March2,2006 at Delhi Time 0910 hrs. The child to be born ,would be her first child. BTR was not found necessary,in my opinion as lagna sublord Merc was related to Moon.

 

Regards,

 

Satish.

 

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comMonday, January 25, 2010, 12:01 PM



Dear Satishji,

 

I presume that it is her 1st delivery. Have you rectified Birth

time? When was her marriage?

 

With best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

- R Satish

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 22, 2010 1:18 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Dear TW,

 

This group's attempt is to predict the gender, a path which KSK avoided.

 

My neice's case is an oppurtunity:

 

1. to list and apply the various formulae for gender identification.

 

2. to predict the date of the birth of the child waiting to be born.

 

 

I am waiting for our friends to avail this chance to move forward.It does not

 

really matter if you are off the mark.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comThursday, January 21, 2010, 11:10 PM

Dear Satish,Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards,TW@gro ups.com, R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote:>>  Dear Friends,>  >                      For those interested in trying their hand , in a live case study.>  >  My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.>  >  Birth details May

29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar). >  >  1. When will she deliver?>  >  2. What will be the gender of the child?>  >     I failed,so I request the group.>  >         Regards,>  >           Satish>  > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14

PM> > >  > > > > Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) > Child Gender Prediction Analysis> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1> I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...> KP Reader IV p 236 last para> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir &  Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > If the sub-lord of the

sub-lord of

the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.> > > > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)> > Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In "Astrololgy & Atrishta" magazine April 1980.> > 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> >

  > >

 > > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > >  > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> >  > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > >  > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> >

 (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> >  (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> >  (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > >  > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> >  Set - 2> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> >  and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> >  > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis

is given against their birth particulars:> >  > >  > > Set - I> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> >  My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified

time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and  whose lord is situated in a male sign or in female sign.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > @gro ups.com> > Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> > > >  > > Dear Mishra ji,> >

//Respected Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime..I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying  gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /> > Kind Sir..> > I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra

ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...> > In your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the "already born".> > I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..> > Again even if you like to test the "already tested" rules, on persons who have been "already born", may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> >  > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time

for

research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark. > > > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country. > > > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > > > Sorry please ignore my

mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. > > > > > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Seniors,> > > >                              I have read some where that :> > > >

                                                                       (1)Gender of native can be

identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.> > > >

                                                                       (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of

the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.> > > >

                                                                       (3) I have been challenged by some one

& given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> > > >

                                                                          Ã

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > > > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM>

> > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> > > > Set - 2> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given

against their birth particulars:> > > > > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > > >

> Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > >> >>

 

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Dear Adithji,

 

I quite agree with your statement. My experience is also same.

 

Truly yours,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

 

-

adith kasinath.g.k

Monday, February 01, 2010 12:26 PM

Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

Dear Sirs,If the star lord of the sublrod of the sublord of the Asc., is posited in Male sign or female sign, the sex is male or female respectively.IT IS NOT CORRECT ALL THE TIMES.NO RULE IS GIVING CONSTANT CORRECT RESULTS IN THE FINDING THE GENDRE.As this is 50% possibility in any case ( as either male or female), we can not just confirm one method is correct.Even if we take up the compilation of many methods and check for the sex, even then there is an error. I used to check the all the corulers and their type(male or female) , their occupation, and the RPs and so on... But success is only 50% which is equal even if one says without any rules also.For example, the 7th is for the partner and also he second baby.For the male, the 7th CSL should be connected to female only, since his partner could be female as per the rule. But we cant expect this.Hope we have to add this topic is also in the research list along with the BTR and many others.Thanks and RegardsAdith

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:03 AM, Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare > wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Misra ji/ Lajmi ji,

 

Sorry for the interruption ! You have said.....

 

//I was not asking rules relating to first child birth and its gender. The following method have been found unreliabe.

Take my own example.DOB- 20.04.1959, TOB-8:15: 56,POB-BASTI( U.P),Ayanamsa adopted K.P.Sub lord of ascendant-Ve, Sub-Sub lord Saturn.Apply Sunil Gondhalkar's method and you will find it BigZero.You know me well.sub sub lord is posited in a star lord of which is Venus and venus is posited in Taurus a female sign.Rule failed here.//

 

As per the birth details given, sub lord of Asc is Ven. Now sub lord of Ven (i.e. sub lord of the sub lord of Asc) is Rahu and not Saturn. Rahu is situated in the star of Moon and Moon is deposited in Leo, a male sign (in your Natal chart). So the gender of the native should be Male as stated in the rule. So the Rule, if stated correctly, does not fail.

 

My interpretation of the Rule is:

 

1. Sub lord of Asc is .......Ven

 

2. Sub lord of sub lord of Asc i.e. Ven is........Rahu ( Ven is in Taurus sign, Moon star and Rahu sub.......thus sub lord of Ven is Rah)

 

3. Rahu is in the star of Moon {making Moon as star lord of the sub lord (Rah) of the sub of Asc (Ven)}

 

4. Moon is in Leo a male sign.

 

Please correct me, if I am wrong.

 

Regards,

Subhash Ektare

 

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra (AT) ymail (DOT) com> Cc: Yogeshlajmi Sent: Sun, January 31, 2010 8:06:45 AM

Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

Respected Lajmi Sir,

I wanted to know perfect rules which indicate gender of native who are already born and whose birth charts are before us.

 

 

I was not asking rules relating to first child birth and its gender. The following method have been found unreliabe.

Take my own example.DOB- 20.04.1959, TOB-8:15: 56,POB-BASTI( U.P),Ayanamsa adopted K.P.Sub lord of ascendant-Ve, Sub-Sub lord Saturn.Apply Sunil Gondhalkar's method and you will find it BigZero.You know me well.sub sub lord is posited in a star lord of which is Venus and venus is posited in Taurus a female sign.Rule failed here.

Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)[it is not found reliable.Sunil Gondhalkar's method) If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.Some times 8 planets are found posited in same sign and then this rule will indicate a common result for all natives.

With thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

 

amit desai <amitwho >@gro ups.com

 

 

Sat, January 30, 2010 8:35:02 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr. Yogeshji

 

after reading this mail of yours I instantly applied the rule in my and my wife's chart and in both it indicates Girl and this ndication is absolutely true.

 

well shall keep checking for more

 

Regards Amit Desai

 

 

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >@gro ups.comCc: Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>Fri, January 29, 2010 5:58:06 PMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

Dear Mr.Misra,

I have been using Gondhalekar' s method since it was first introduced and so far,I have got extremely accurate results..

The Rule is :

"If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Vth cusp,is posited in a star,whose lord is

posited in a Male Sign(ODD Sign), a boy will be born...of in a Female(Even Sign),a Female..."

Where is the question of eight planets as you hypothesise needlessly ?

Instead ,why don't you apply the Rule properly to a given actual case and then post it as an example...(It was prived right in the most recent case of Satishji's neice... !

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>@gro ups.comThu, 28 January, 2010 10:26:01 PMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

Dr.Anjana Agarwal Ji,How do you identify gender of unborn baby,if there is no perfect rule in this regard.You are requested to make it clear.This thread was opened by me but none of the members took interest to reveal perfect rule in this regard. Although I wanted to know perfect rules which indicate gender of native who are already born and whose birth charts are before us. TW JI has replied thus:Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards, TWDetermining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)[it is not found reliable] (Sunil Gondhalkar's method) If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.Some times 8 planets are found posited in same sign and then this rule will indicate a common result for all natives. With thanks & regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

DrAnjna Agarwal <anu0562 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.com; R Satish <rsatish1942@ ..com>Thu, January 28, 2010 7:40:00 AMRe: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

Female child till 2/02/2010 sa-ju-ju-ra- sat

 

5th house sgl ma, stl me, sl me

ma stl ve sl mo, me st mo sl ra

me 5th CSL (10-3,12)stl mo(12,1), sl ra (2 (sgn su 10,2)), conj su (10,2), ve (10-4,11), aspected by sa in 1-7,8, ra in 2

 

12 and 8 house involved so possibility of caesarean is there

 

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Naresh Valecha <superstaar_n_ v wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Satish, If u say the child is to be born in a couple of days then the earliest possible time as per RP's is when Moon transits in its own sign Cancer in the Star-Sub of Mercury and its a Saturday. Mars being in Cancer too with Moon on that day indicates a caesarion birth of a female child.

Naresh Valecha --- On Wed, 27/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

 

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 11:04 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh,

The child is expected to be born any time now.Ceasarian or not ,time will tell.

Thank you for your effort.

 

Regards,

 

 

Satish--- On Tue, 1/26/10, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote:

 

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in>Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

@gro ups.comTuesday, January 26, 2010, 12:37 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Satish,

 

Your niece is expected to deliver a baby child after May 2010. Is it true ?

 

The delivery might be caesarean.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Tue, 26/1/10, R Satish <rsatish1942@ > wrote:

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >Re: Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comTuesday, 26 January, 2010, 11:22 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramani,

My neice got married on March2,2006 at Delhi Time 0910 hrs. The child to be born ,would be her first child. BTR was not found necessary,in my opinion as lagna sublord Merc was related to Moon.

 

Regards,

 

Satish.

 

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:

kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Fw: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comMonday, January 25, 2010, 12:01 PM



Dear Satishji,

 

I presume that it is her 1st delivery. Have you rectified Birth

time? When was her marriage?

 

With best wishes,

 

K.S.V.Ramani

- R Satish

@gro ups.com

Friday, January 22, 2010 1:18 PM

Re: Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother

 

 

 

 

 

Dear TW,

 

This group's attempt is to predict the gender, a path which KSK avoided.

 

My neice's case is an oppurtunity:

 

1. to list and apply the various formulae for gender identification.

 

2. to predict the date of the birth of the child waiting to be born.

 

 

I am waiting for our friends to avail this chance to move forward.It does not

 

really matter if you are off the mark.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:

TW <tw853 > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother@gro ups.comThursday, January 21, 2010, 11:10 PM

Dear Satish,Prediction of child gender or president election result is 50-50 chance with using or without using astrology. It has been found that Guruji KSK is correct in saying that he never had any experience in pin-pointing child gender before birth.Regards,TW@gro ups.com, R Satish <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote:>>  Dear Friends,>  >                      For those interested in trying their hand , in a live case study.>  >  My neice staying presently at Hyd, is keeping everyone guessing.>  >  Birth details May 29,1979 time 1045 am. Mumbai (Dadar). >  >  1. When will she deliver?>  >  2. What will be the gender of the child?>  >     I failed,so I request the group.>  >         Regards,>  >           Satish>  > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, TW <tw853 wrote:> > > TW <tw853> Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:14 PM> > >  > > > > Child Sex Study.doc (in File section) > Child Gender Prediction Analysis> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 15405?threaded= 1> I never had any experience in pin-pointing before birth...> KP Reader IV p 236 last para> > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir &  Seniors, I am trying to apply K.P Rules as laid down by S.Gondhalkar Ji & Dr.Kar Ji which are as following:> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > (Sunil Gondhalkar's method)> > If the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, if posited in a star, whose lord is situated in a male sign then the chart is of a male child; if in a female sign, then the chart is of a female child.> > > > Reference: http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 21621> > Determining Sex from the Birth Chart (Dr. Kar's method)> > Star lord of the sub-sub lord of ascendant and sub-sub lord of ascendant determines the sex of a child. > > > > 1. Reference: Dedicated To Learners- Beginners Events that came true. In "Astrololgy & Atrishta" magazine April 1980.> > 2. http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22175> >   > >  > > You are requested to help me if these rules apply in all cases or not.It will certainly help in rectification of birth time also.Besides this it is very necessary to know that the birth chart which has been put before an astrologer belongs to male or female or none of these two.Does odd number denote male sign and even number denote female sign or which are male and female signs?Besides this I have been given few problems to solve.I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> >                                                                           à ‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > >  > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > (B) identify the gender of these children> >  > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > >  > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> >  (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> >  (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > >  > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > Set - I> >  (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> >  Set - 2> >  (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> >  and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> >  > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:> >  > >  > > Set - I> >  (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> >  (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> >  > > Set - 2> >  (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> >  (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> >  My above analysis may be wrong(1)If rectified time is incorrect & sub sub lord of ascendant is incorrect (2) If further calculation is wrong that the sub-lord of the sub-lord of the Ascendant, is posited in a which star and  whose lord is situated in a male sign or in female sign.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > @gro ups.com> > Tue, January 19, 2010 10:03:08 PM> > Re: K.P Rules to identify Gender from Birth Chart and real sisters and brothers,status of father/mother> > > >  > > Dear Mishra ji,> > //Respected Seniors, I want to thank Bhaskar Sir firstly who replied me promptly regarding the subject noted above.But he is requested again not to twist the fact what I have requested clearly.I am employed in Judicial department and perhaps it is known to me what is crime..I am not intended to identify gender of unborn baby.But there must be tested K.P rules to identify gender of any native whose birth chart is placed before an astrologer.My query in this regard is neither vague nor misconceived nor violating any law. It is also made clear that prediction regarding gender of unborn baby is quite different thing to that of identifying  gender of any native whose birth chart is already erected and placed before an astrologer./ /> > Kind Sir..> > I am not twisting any facts... I have nothing to gain from this...I do not even know you in any which way dear Mishra ji...I just mentioned what I should, and what I must...> > In your previous post you never demarcated that you wish to determine gender for the "already born".> > I mentioned the legal factor only perchance thinking that you may not know it... I really do not know that you are connected to the judicial..> > Again even if you like to test the "already tested" rules, on persons who have been "already born", may I humbly ask you out of curiosity, that what purpose will this serve ?> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> >  > >  > > > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > While appreciating your stance of predicting Gender , and also sparing efforts and time for research on this, yes rules are there , but how much will they work , and in hands of whom - is a question mark, and to what purposeto serve again is another question mark. > > > > > > Predicting Male gender will be welcome...for an unborn child to his parents. But what if this prediction turns false ? > > > > > > Predicting a daughter by an astrologer may force abortion to and by the parents. What if after abortion it is found that the child was a male ? (I do not know the medical rules whether the child is aborted after gender determination and when the gender can be realised - after what period in the womb )Anyway Gender determination is a legal crime in the law of this country. > > > > > > And to make spectacular predictions for momentary applauses ? Is it worth it ? I mean the time, efforts and research work ?> > > > > > Sorry please ignore my mail if not found proper. But I do not mean to discourage. > > > > > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dhirendra Nath Misra dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Seniors,> > > >                              I have read some where that :> > > >                                                                        (1)Gender of native can be identified from the sub sub lord of ascendant and its placement in a particular sign.If it is posited in male sign then the concerned native is male or female if sub sub lord is posited in female sign.But in many cases this method does not apply.If I am not wrong in this perspective the even sign denotes female gender and odd sign denotes male gender.> > > >                                                                        (2)Secondly I have found that sub lord of the ascendant in the chart of father is common as sub lord of the 9th cusp in birth charts of sons and daughters who are born of the same father.I am not confident as to whether this condition will apply every where or it will fail.> > > >                                                                        (3) I have been challenged by some one & given 8 blind charts to identify gender of natives and also to identify who are born of same father.I have been given a hint which is following:> > > >                                                                           à ‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Each set belong to a group of children. These children of the same set may or may not have the same father or mother (father might have married twice or the mother might have had two husbands or they might have a common father & mother. > > > > > > > > (A) Just identify children having a common father &  common mother> > > > (B) identify the gender of these children> > > > > > > > Birth particulars of father is not given.The birth place of all the native is cochin,Kerala.  > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM> > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM> > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM > > > > > > > > I adopted K.P ayanamsa & found on the basis of analysis that: > > > > Set - I> > > > (1) 25-9 -1974 2:22PM is Female(Rectified time 2:16:51)> > > > Set - 2> > > > (5) 01-04-1962 04:05PM is Male(Rectified time 4:10:50)> > > > and both are born of same father(May be sister and brother)> > > > > > > > The following natives are not born of same father and their gender on the basis of analysis is given against their birth particulars:> > > > > > > > > > > > Set - I> > > > (2)14-11-1969 1:45AM     Male(Rectified time 1:51:53AM)> > > > (3) 7-10-1972 12:30AM   Male(Rectified time 11:57:15PM,Date 06-10-1972)> > > > > > > > Set - 2> > > > (1) 13-10-1969 11:12AM  Male( Rectified time 11:08:34AM) > > > > (2) 15-12-1961 12:30PM  Female(Rectified time 12:40PM)> > > > (3) 01-05-1971 05:15PM  Female(Rectified time 05:17PM) > > > > (4) 03-02-1968 01:15PM  Male(Rectified time 01:05PM)> > > > > > > > > > > > Please guide me regarding the above matter at the earliest.> > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra> > > >> > >> >>

 

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