Guest guest Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Dear Friends and Participants,Here is the Result: SHE GOT HER MALE BABY DURING RAHU- SAT- SUN DATE: 2/12/1992 3.47 PM CHENNAI when MOON IN SAT SIGN AND RAHU STAR. WINNER: MR. BIPS VASAWADA (BIPRID) : RAHU-SAT-VENUS HEARTY CONGRATULATION TO HIM! HATS OFF!! I ALSO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE RAHU DASA (Ramesh Mishra ji, Dhananjay Kekuda ji, VijayaMohan ji, KSV Ramani ji and Vgr Pawan ji ). I have attached herewith the Score Board with explanation.I have attached my analysis report also.I have attached the analysis report by Biprid.Kind Note: (DISCUSSION WITH BIPRID)I have also attached a file complilation of my discussion with Mr. Biprid .The reason behind is that: He is the only one who almost hits the Bulls Eye. He has not selected Mars Dasa. He chose Rahu Dasa and Sat Bukthi. In his report through through 4 step method he said, given in excel sheet, I could not find the reasons for his selection. hence I asked him to explain the reason behind it. Initially he said the mother got married in 85 (actullay around 84) hence the chances are after 86 in Rahu dasa. I was not convinced with that and again asked ti explain the reasons. He has given the reason why he has not selected the Mars Dasa. The Conversation is attached herewith. The reason behind my consistent query to him to find out his interpretation and reason behind it.His interpretation and his intuition as he said guided him perfectly.Many thanks and wishes for the participants for their great effort. AS I SAID IN THE QUIZ ITSELF CLEARLY " PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH OF THE SIGNIFICATORS " IN ALL ASPECTS.ALSO PLS GIVE IMPORTANCE TO NODES (As I ever say..MULTI FACED WEAPONS).If SAT is a strong signifiicator SAT's role will be there during the event as our Guruji KSK said. This is not an easy " Quiz " . If I were one among you, I also might have failed.Hope we learn from each failures. Good Luck!With RegardsAdith 4 of 4 File(s) Quiz 17 analysis by biprid.xls QUIZ 17 EXPLANATION BY MR BIPRID.doc QUIZ 17 Score Board.xls quiz 17 Adith analysis.doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Dear VGR pawan ji, MOON----------------àSUN------------àVENUS(NP)--------------àMARS (1),(7) 5, (8) (5) (10) 5,4 conjn. VEN l/o 5 No planet in 10. No planet in 4. No planet in Ven 4,5,10,1 KETU-----------à MOON-----------àVENUS (NP)---------àMARS (9), 4, 6 1,7 5,5,10 5,11,4 (no planet in 4). 4 (Mars aspects) No planet in 10 Conjn. With 6th cusp Ketu, Mars ,6 combination No planet in Venus star Not good. So 10 is strongly signified 4,10.1,6, Ketu RAHU--------------àMERCURY---------àSUN-----------------àMARS (3,2) conjn. SAT 6,6 (9) ( 5) (8) 5,11, 4 (no planet in 4) conjn. VENUS l/o 5 conjn. with 6th cusp Rahu is in the sub Of SUN who is a good significator of 2 through its Sub lord SAT So the 4th Signification is getting diluted. 6,2,5,4,5,11 Dear VGR ji, AS I SAID, PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH IN ALL ASPECTS. MOON AND KETU ARE NOT HAVING SELF STRENGTH. RAHU HAS SELF STRENGTH BY CONJN. WITH SAT WHO HAS NP AND ALSO IT IS STRONG BY ITS SUB LORD LEVEL ALSO. Though Some planets in the star of Mars, SUN is strong signficator by its self strength and no negatine signifator. RAHU is having SUN as its sub. If you look at the BAckward theory, ie., a) check the planet in a house (a) b) check the planet in the star of the occupant (a) of that house c) check the planet in the sub of that planet (b) This c is also a signficator. But d) check the self strength of the " c " and its starlevel strength and weakness. Then select the strongest. I found in your analysis. You have just rejected Saturn saying the reason as " /I also dropped Saturn because he is not in RP and also in natal he strongly represented by rahu and Saturn is in his own sub in mercury star. signifying 2,6,3 houses /. Just Sat is not in your Rp and Rahu represents SAT. But SAT is stroong its own sub and no planet in its star. Also SAT aspects 5th house and its lord. He delays and indicates the baby. Hence you jumped to Mercury. Otherwise , you would have stopped with SATURN. I hope for this postportem , RPs role have to be studied. Good Luck! Adith On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:02 PM, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 wrote: Adithji Pranam,thanks alot for exciting quiz , yes really enjoyed alot,........congratulations to Sri Biprid ji for his very close timing......very good exercise indeed and good explanation from you but a small doubt from me, As per your explanation if rahu derives power by being in the sub of " Sun " who in turn in the star of mars l/o 4,11 in 5 , then why moon and kethu are weak by being in the sub of venus (venus stars unoccupied may be thats why you stopped here not going to her star level), for the reason that she is 10 lord and 10 vacant. Isnt it mars is also strong for 4 then how rahu be fruitful then. Actually venus is sublord for 2,5,6,9,11 houses and occupant of 5th cusp which is 6th from 10th cusp, seems to be stronger than sun! can you kindly clarify in this regard, i am not pointing pls dnt take it otherwise i just want clarity thats all. Once again thanks alot for your wonderful quiz and very good presentation of results. my hearty congrats to all those participants. Guruji bless us All !!regardsPeace and Prosperity to All !!VGR--- On Wed, 27/1/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath QUIZ 17 RESULTS [4 Attachments] Date: Wednesday, 27 January, 2010, 3:54 PM Dear Friends and Participants,Here is the Result: SHE GOT HER MALE BABY DURING RAHU- SAT- SUN DATE: 2/12/1992 3.47 PM CHENNAI when MOON IN SAT SIGN AND RAHU STAR. WINNER: MR. BIPS VASAWADA (BIPRID) : RAHU-SAT-VENUSHEARTY CONGRATULATION TO HIM! HATS OFF!! I ALSO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE RAHU DASA (Ramesh Mishra ji, Dhananjay Kekuda ji, VijayaMohan ji, KSV Ramani ji and Vgr Pawan ji ). I have attached herewith the Score Board with explanation.I have attached my analysis report also.I have attached the analysis report by Biprid. Kind Note: (DISCUSSION WITH BIPRID)I have also attached a file complilation of my discussion with Mr. Biprid .The reason behind is that: He is the only one who almost hits the Bulls Eye. He has not selected Mars Dasa. He chose Rahu Dasa and Sat Bukthi. In his report through through 4 step method he said, given in excel sheet, I could not find the reasons for his selection. hence I asked him to explain the reason behind it. Initially he said the mother got married in 85 (actullay around 84) hence the chances are after 86 in Rahu dasa. I was not convinced with that and again asked ti explain the reasons. He has given the reason why he has not selected the Mars Dasa. The Conversation is attached herewith. The reason behind my consistent query to him to find out his interpretation and reason behind it.His interpretation and his intuition as he said guided him perfectly.Many thanks and wishes for the participants for their great effort. AS I SAID IN THE QUIZ ITSELF CLEARLY " PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH OF THE SIGNIFICATORS " IN ALL ASPECTS.ALSO PLS GIVE IMPORTANCE TO NODES (As I ever say..MULTI FACED WEAPONS).If SAT is a strong signifiicator SAT's role will be there during the event as our Guruji KSK said. This is not an easy " Quiz " . If I were one among you, I also might have failed.Hope we learn from each failures. Good Luck!With RegardsAdith The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Dear KSV Ramani ji, Thanks . Keep participating in the future quiz. As I said, it is not an easy one. There are more possibility of wrong selection . If I were also one among the participants, I might have failed also. Becasue while analysis we have to be more concentrated and keen, since many cases may be of such in nature. Regards Adith On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:32 PM, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani wrote: Dear Sri Adithji, Excellent way of presentation of your analysis. The importance given by you or finding the strength of planets is very nice and good lesson to learners. Thanks for mentioning my name too. Congrats. With very best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani - adith kasinath.g.k Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:54 PM QUIZ 17 RESULTS [4 Attachments] Dear Friends and Participants,Here is the Result: SHE GOT HER MALE BABY DURING RAHU- SAT- SUN DATE: 2/12/1992 3.47 PM CHENNAI when MOON IN SAT SIGN AND RAHU STAR. WINNER: MR. BIPS VASAWADA (BIPRID) : RAHU-SAT-VENUSHEARTY CONGRATULATION TO HIM! HATS OFF!! I ALSO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE RAHU DASA (Ramesh Mishra ji, Dhananjay Kekuda ji, VijayaMohan ji, KSV Ramani ji and Vgr Pawan ji ). I have attached herewith the Score Board with explanation.I have attached my analysis report also.I have attached the analysis report by Biprid. Kind Note: (DISCUSSION WITH BIPRID)I have also attached a file complilation of my discussion with Mr. Biprid .The reason behind is that: He is the only one who almost hits the Bulls Eye. He has not selected Mars Dasa. He chose Rahu Dasa and Sat Bukthi. In his report through through 4 step method he said, given in excel sheet, I could not find the reasons for his selection. hence I asked him to explain the reason behind it. Initially he said the mother got married in 85 (actullay around 84) hence the chances are after 86 in Rahu dasa. I was not convinced with that and again asked ti explain the reasons. He has given the reason why he has not selected the Mars Dasa. The Conversation is attached herewith. The reason behind my consistent query to him to find out his interpretation and reason behind it.His interpretation and his intuition as he said guided him perfectly.Many thanks and wishes for the participants for their great effort. AS I SAID IN THE QUIZ ITSELF CLEARLY " PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH OF THE SIGNIFICATORS " IN ALL ASPECTS.ALSO PLS GIVE IMPORTANCE TO NODES (As I ever say..MULTI FACED WEAPONS).If SAT is a strong signifiicator SAT's role will be there during the event as our Guruji KSK said. This is not an easy " Quiz " . If I were one among you, I also might have failed.Hope we learn from each failures. Good Luck!With RegardsAdith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Dear Adith, It is a very nice quiz. But however we are yet to find the other hidden RULES which decide the house matter. Have you checked the participants Ruling planets how far it helped the astrologer to fix the date of event etc. The RP at the time of my judgment place & a horary number helped me to fix the child birth lagna, 4th cusp/9th cusp planet connection, transit of sun to some extend correct except moon transit and DBA thus the end result was wrong. Below points are for discussion and not to criticize you (or) anybody. For Example, suppose planets signifying 2nd house, Here SAT, SUN & VEN (VEN is the 2nd CSL and there is no planet in VEN star and thus VEN becomes strongest significator which you have not considered at all, the reason is not clear) If we go always the strongest then all the house karaka represents by 2nd house (money, addition in family member for child/marriage etc etc) should be given by only ONE planet which may not happen except there is only ONE planet and nothing else connected to 2nd house. Suppose if we put the following questions how will you select the correct DBA (for past events)? 1. When she got married? (Selection of 2nd house significator) 2. When she got 1st Child birth? (Again selection of 2nd house significator) 3. When she got 2nd Child birth? (Again selection of 2nd house significator) (Assuming that the above events happened to a particular lady) Suppose incase of INDIA, in general the child birth happens after marriage only (some exceptional case let us ignore it) But if you consider foreign people charts (US etc) the childbirth may happen before marriage because of the local culture/living style etc. Here the logic will not work. Now how will you pick the significator? Members also can through some light on the above. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil--- On Wed, 1/27/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 wrote: vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 5:32 AM Adithji Pranam,thanks alot for exciting quiz , yes really enjoyed alot,....... .congratulations to Sri Biprid ji for his very close timing......very good exercise indeed and good explanation from you but a small doubt from me,As per your explanation if rahu derives power by being in the sub of "Sun" who in turn in the star of mars l/o 4,11 in 5 , then why moon and kethu are weak by being in the sub of venus (venus stars unoccupied may be thats why you stopped here not going to her star level), for the reason that she is 10 lord and 10 vacant. Isnt it mars is also strong for 4 then how rahu be fruitful then. Actually venus is sublord for 2,5,6,9,11 houses and occupant of 5th cusp which is 6th from 10th cusp, seems to be stronger than sun! can you kindly clarify in this regard, i am not pointing pls dnt take it otherwise i just want clarity thats all. Once again thanks alot for your wonderful quiz and very good presentation of results. my hearty congrats to all those participants. Guruji bless us All !!regardsPeace and Prosperity to All !!VGR--- On Wed, 27/1/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> QUIZ 17 RESULTS [4 Attachments]@gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 3:54 PM Dear Friends and Participants,Here is the Result: SHE GOT HER MALE BABY DURING RAHU- SAT- SUN DATE: 2/12/1992 3.47 PM CHENNAI when MOON IN SAT SIGN AND RAHU STAR. WINNER: MR. BIPS VASAWADA (BIPRID) : RAHU-SAT-VENUSHEARTY CONGRATULATION TO HIM! HATS OFF!! I ALSO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE RAHU DASA (Ramesh Mishra ji, Dhananjay Kekuda ji, VijayaMohan ji, KSV Ramani ji and Vgr Pawan ji ). I have attached herewith the Score Board with explanation.I have attached my analysis report also.I have attached the analysis report by Biprid.Kind Note: (DISCUSSION WITH BIPRID)I have also attached a file complilation of my discussion with Mr. Biprid .The reason behind is that: He is the only one who almost hits the Bulls Eye. He has not selected Mars Dasa. He chose Rahu Dasa and Sat Bukthi. In his report through through 4 step method he said, given in excel sheet, I could not find the reasons for his selection.hence I asked him to explain the reason behind it. Initially he said the mother got married in 85 (actullay around 84) hence the chances are after 86 in Rahu dasa. I was not convinced with that and again asked ti explain the reasons. He has given the reason why he has not selected the Mars Dasa. The Conversation is attached herewith.The reason behind my consistent query to him to find out his interpretation and reason behind it.His interpretation and his intuition as he said guided him perfectly.Many thanks and wishes for the participants for their great effort.AS I SAID IN THE QUIZ ITSELF CLEARLY "PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH OF THE SIGNIFICATORS" IN ALL ASPECTS.ALSO PLS GIVE IMPORTANCE TO NODES (As I ever say..MULTI FACED WEAPONS).If SAT is a strong signifiicator SAT's role will be there during the event as our Guruji KSK said.This is not an easy "Quiz". If I were one among you, I also might have failed.Hope we learn from each failures.Good Luck!With RegardsAdith The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Dear Adith Ji and Biprid Ji, This explanation for approaching the time was insufficient for me to understand.As I told earlier I am learning this system I could not get the explanation to my satisfaction. My first query is that why Mars main could not give the event of childbirth when therewas 2 years left for Mars to go. Mars is the significator of 5th and 11th house. Mars is tthe starlord of Venus who is CSL of 2,5 and 11. It means Ma and Ve both of these planets are responsible for giving the result in its dasa.bhukti.antar. But none of these planet took part .Why? Can you please make me understand ? After getting the answer I may proceed for further query.Since I am in learning stage my question may not be liked by you but it is for me necessary to understand.So if you like to give the answers I shall be highly obliged to you. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra rcmastro--- On Thu, 28/1/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinathRe: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Date: Thursday, 28 January, 2010, 8:00 AM Dear KSV Ramani ji, Thanks . Keep participating in the future quiz. As I said, it is not an easy one. There are more possibility of wrong selection . If I were also one among the participants, I might have failed also. Becasue while analysis we have to be more concentrated and keen, since many cases may be of such in nature. Regards Adith On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:32 PM, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear Sri Adithji, Excellent way of presentation of your analysis. The importance given by you or finding the strength of planets is very nice and good lesson to learners. Thanks for mentioning my name too. Congrats. With very best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani - adith kasinath.g.k @gro ups.com Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:54 PM QUIZ 17 RESULTS [4 Attachments] Dear Friends and Participants,Here is the Result: SHE GOT HER MALE BABY DURING RAHU- SAT- SUN DATE: 2/12/1992 3.47 PM CHENNAI when MOON IN SAT SIGN AND RAHU STAR. WINNER: MR. BIPS VASAWADA (BIPRID) : RAHU-SAT-VENUSHEARTY CONGRATULATION TO HIM! HATS OFF!! I ALSO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE RAHU DASA (Ramesh Mishra ji, Dhananjay Kekuda ji, VijayaMohan ji, KSV Ramani ji and Vgr Pawan ji ). I have attached herewith the Score Board with explanation.I have attached my analysis report also.I have attached the analysis report by Biprid.Kind Note: (DISCUSSION WITH BIPRID)I have also attached a file complilation of my discussion with Mr. Biprid .The reason behind is that: He is the only one who almost hits the Bulls Eye. He has not selected Mars Dasa. He chose Rahu Dasa and Sat Bukthi. In his report through through 4 step method he said, given in excel sheet, I could not find the reasons for his selection.hence I asked him to explain the reason behind it. Initially he said the mother got married in 85 (actullay around 84) hence the chances are after 86 in Rahu dasa. I was not convinced with that and again asked ti explain the reasons. He has given the reason why he has not selected the Mars Dasa. The Conversation is attached herewith.The reason behind my consistent query to him to find out his interpretation and reason behind it.His interpretation and his intuition as he said guided him perfectly.Many thanks and wishes for the participants for their great effort.AS I SAID IN THE QUIZ ITSELF CLEARLY "PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH OF THE SIGNIFICATORS" IN ALL ASPECTS.ALSO PLS GIVE IMPORTANCE TO NODES (As I ever say..MULTI FACED WEAPONS).If SAT is a strong signifiicator SAT's role will be there during the event as our Guruji KSK said.This is not an easy "Quiz". If I were one among you, I also might have failed.Hope we learn from each failures.Good Luck!With RegardsAdith Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Dear Bips,My congratulationsKalyan.Bips Vasavada <biprid Sent: Thu, 28 January, 2010 11:10:42 AMRe: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Dear Adithji and forum members, By grace of God,my sincere humble attempt to solve Quiz 17 has resulted in a close finish. Right from young age occult sciences(Astrology, palmistry, numerology etc.) have been a source of intellectual curiosity for me.With the time permitted,my journey of learning by self effort through books/articles/ forums and personal discussion had been through orthodox vedic to modern vedic interpretation to Kp system and now 4 step theory. Advancement and increasing precision of astronomy,modern technical tools and softwares have opened up wide possibilities of testing whatever theory we believe,however on the predictive side learner like me (and many of us) have only reached a stage of narrowing down the identification of factors leading to occurrence of event with certainty. However as far as timing of events is concerned,pinpointi ng the closest time period out of several possibilities is still a nightmare,resulting in a occasional hit to bulls eye. Consistency of accurately timed predictions by most of us with whatever branch of Astrology and whatever method used is an occasional phenomenon. Hence with all humility I do not give credit to myself. I simply pass it off to more deserving members who put untiring efforts in search of solving eluding answers,resolving support sysytems like BTR,Ayanamsha etc. keep interests alive by quizzes and systematic compilation of scattered knowledge and references. Thanks for lauding my successful effort. Biprid adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comWed, January 27, 2010 3:54:13 PM QUIZ 17 RESULTS [4 Attachments] Dear Friends and Participants,Here is the Result: SHE GOT HER MALE BABY DURING RAHU- SAT- SUN DATE: 2/12/1992 3.47 PM CHENNAI when MOON IN SAT SIGN AND RAHU STAR. WINNER: MR. BIPS VASAWADA (BIPRID) : RAHU-SAT-VENUS HEARTY CONGRATULATION TO HIM! HATS OFF!! I ALSO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE RAHU DASA (Ramesh Mishra ji, Dhananjay Kekuda ji, VijayaMohan ji, KSV Ramani ji and Vgr Pawan ji ). I have attached herewith the Score Board with explanation.I have attached my analysis report also.I have attached the analysis report by Biprid.Kind Note: (DISCUSSION WITH BIPRID)I have also attached a file complilation of my discussion with Mr. Biprid .The reason behind is that: He is the only one who almost hits the Bulls Eye. He has not selected Mars Dasa. He chose Rahu Dasa and Sat Bukthi. In his report through through 4 step method he said, given in excel sheet, I could not find the reasons for his selection. hence I asked him to explain the reason behind it. Initially he said the mother got married in 85 (actullay around 84) hence the chances are after 86 in Rahu dasa. I was not convinced with that and again asked ti explain the reasons. He has given the reason why he has not selected the Mars Dasa. The Conversation is attached herewith. The reason behind my consistent query to him to find out his interpretation and reason behind it.His interpretation and his intuition as he said guided him perfectly.Many thanks and wishes for the participants for their great effort. AS I SAID IN THE QUIZ ITSELF CLEARLY "PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH OF THE SIGNIFICATORS" IN ALL ASPECTS.ALSO PLS GIVE IMPORTANCE TO NODES (As I ever say..MULTI FACED WEAPONS).If SAT is a strong signifiicator SAT's role will be there during the event as our Guruji KSK said. This is not an easy "Quiz". If I were one among you, I also might have failed.Hope we learn from each failures. Good Luck!With RegardsAdith 7: Catch-up on your favourite Channel 7 TV shows easily, legally, and for free at PLUS7. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Dear adithji. Thank u very much for the quiz, and analysis,which help us to understand k p system. Pl. suggest me to learn k p sys in tamil. suggest the name of the book,available in banglore. thanks and regardsadith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath Sent: Thu, 28 January, 2010 8:00:41 AMRe: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Dear KSV Ramani ji, Thanks . Keep participating in the future quiz. As I said, it is not an easy one. There are more possibility of wrong selection . If I were also one among the participants, I might have failed also. Becasue while analysis we have to be more concentrated and keen, since many cases may be of such in nature. Regards Adith On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:32 PM, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear Sri Adithji, Excellent way of presentation of your analysis. The importance given by you or finding the strength of planets is very nice and good lesson to learners. Thanks for mentioning my name too. Congrats. With very best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani - adith kasinath.g.k @gro ups.com Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:54 PM QUIZ 17 RESULTS [4 Attachments] Dear Friends and Participants,Here is the Result: SHE GOT HER MALE BABY DURING RAHU- SAT- SUN DATE: 2/12/1992 3.47 PM CHENNAI when MOON IN SAT SIGN AND RAHU STAR. WINNER: MR. BIPS VASAWADA (BIPRID) : RAHU-SAT-VENUSHEARTY CONGRATULATION TO HIM! HATS OFF!! I ALSO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE RAHU DASA (Ramesh Mishra ji, Dhananjay Kekuda ji, VijayaMohan ji, KSV Ramani ji and Vgr Pawan ji ). I have attached herewith the Score Board with explanation.I have attached my analysis report also.I have attached the analysis report by Biprid. Kind Note: (DISCUSSION WITH BIPRID)I have also attached a file complilation of my discussion with Mr. Biprid .The reason behind is that: He is the only one who almost hits the Bulls Eye. He has not selected Mars Dasa. He chose Rahu Dasa and Sat Bukthi. In his report through through 4 step method he said, given in excel sheet, I could not find the reasons for his selection. hence I asked him to explain the reason behind it. Initially he said the mother got married in 85 (actullay around 84) hence the chances are after 86 in Rahu dasa. I was not convinced with that and again asked ti explain the reasons. He has given the reason why he has not selected the Mars Dasa. The Conversation is attached herewith. The reason behind my consistent query to him to find out his interpretation and reason behind it.His interpretation and his intuition as he said guided him perfectly.Many thanks and wishes for the participants for their great effort. AS I SAID IN THE QUIZ ITSELF CLEARLY "PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH OF THE SIGNIFICATORS" IN ALL ASPECTS.ALSO PLS GIVE IMPORTANCE TO NODES (As I ever say..MULTI FACED WEAPONS).If SAT is a strong signifiicator SAT's role will be there during the event as our Guruji KSK said. This is not an easy "Quiz". If I were one among you, I also might have failed.Hope we learn from each failures. Good Luck!With RegardsAdith Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Dear Senthil ji,I am again repeating, just with the one point, we can not consider as the strongest.we have to look at the Strength of the Planets (self, str, sub level and its star level).I have clearly given in the chart. VENUS (NP)------------ MARS-----------------JUPITER (NP)---- KETU 5,5, 10 5,11,4 (no planet in 4) 8,12 9,6 conjn. SUN (l./o 8) conjn. With 6th 4,10,8,12 In case of Venus who is the CSL of (2,5,11) and has no planet in its strong. She is strong.But she is also signifying 10 as no planet in its house.And she is in the star of Mars who sigfies 4 aprt from 5. (4,10 combination has come) and She is in the sub of JUpiter (no planet in its star) who strongly signfies 8,12 who is in the star of Ketu who also signfies 6 (ketu is an abortive planet).When all these combinations add together , the stronger signficators take upper hand. Sometimes the cases will be easy where less combination of such good and bad signfications. Sometimes this kind of challenges.With Regard to the RPs: only few have given the RPs and no place and time given, I hope. Reg: your other questions: As you know, only group of significators have to be looked into .here the problem in selection of strong significators need to be carefully handled in all cases.With Reagards AdithOn Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Senthil <athi_ram wrote: Dear Adith, It is a very nice quiz. But however we are yet to find the other hidden RULES which decide the house matter. Have you checked the participants Ruling planets how far it helped the astrologer to fix the date of event etc. The RP at the time of my judgment place & a horary number helped me to fix the child birth lagna, 4th cusp/9th cusp planet connection, transit of sun to some extend correct except moon transit and DBA thus the end result was wrong. Below points are for discussion and not to criticize you (or) anybody. For Example, suppose planets signifying 2nd house, Here SAT, SUN & VEN (VEN is the 2nd CSL and there is no planet in VEN star and thus VEN becomes strongest significator which you have not considered at all, the reason is not clear) If we go always the strongest then all the house karaka represents by 2nd house (money, addition in family member for child/marriage etc etc) should be given by only ONE planet which may not happen except there is only ONE planet and nothing else connected to 2nd house. Suppose if we put the following questions how will you select the correct DBA (for past events)? 1. When she got married? (Selection of 2nd house significator) 2. When she got 1st Child birth? (Again selection of 2nd house significator) 3. When she got 2nd Child birth? (Again selection of 2nd house significator) (Assuming that the above events happened to a particular lady) Suppose incase of INDIA, in general the child birth happens after marriage only (some exceptional case let us ignore it) But if you consider foreign people charts (US etc) the childbirth may happen before marriage because of the local culture/living style etc. Here the logic will not work. Now how will you pick the significator? Members also can through some light on the above. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil--- On Wed, 1/27/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 wrote: vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 5:32 AM Adithji Pranam,thanks alot for exciting quiz , yes really enjoyed alot,....... .congratulations to Sri Biprid ji for his very close timing......very good exercise indeed and good explanation from you but a small doubt from me, As per your explanation if rahu derives power by being in the sub of " Sun " who in turn in the star of mars l/o 4,11 in 5 , then why moon and kethu are weak by being in the sub of venus (venus stars unoccupied may be thats why you stopped here not going to her star level), for the reason that she is 10 lord and 10 vacant. Isnt it mars is also strong for 4 then how rahu be fruitful then. Actually venus is sublord for 2,5,6,9,11 houses and occupant of 5th cusp which is 6th from 10th cusp, seems to be stronger than sun! can you kindly clarify in this regard, i am not pointing pls dnt take it otherwise i just want clarity thats all. Once again thanks alot for your wonderful quiz and very good presentation of results. my hearty congrats to all those participants. Guruji bless us All !!regardsPeace and Prosperity to All !!VGR--- On Wed, 27/1/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> QUIZ 17 RESULTS [4 Attachments] @gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 3:54 PM Dear Friends and Participants,Here is the Result: SHE GOT HER MALE BABY DURING RAHU- SAT- SUN DATE: 2/12/1992 3.47 PM CHENNAI when MOON IN SAT SIGN AND RAHU STAR. WINNER: MR. BIPS VASAWADA (BIPRID) : RAHU-SAT-VENUSHEARTY CONGRATULATION TO HIM! HATS OFF!! I ALSO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE RAHU DASA (Ramesh Mishra ji, Dhananjay Kekuda ji, VijayaMohan ji, KSV Ramani ji and Vgr Pawan ji ). I have attached herewith the Score Board with explanation.I have attached my analysis report also.I have attached the analysis report by Biprid. Kind Note: (DISCUSSION WITH BIPRID)I have also attached a file complilation of my discussion with Mr. Biprid .The reason behind is that: He is the only one who almost hits the Bulls Eye. He has not selected Mars Dasa. He chose Rahu Dasa and Sat Bukthi. In his report through through 4 step method he said, given in excel sheet, I could not find the reasons for his selection. hence I asked him to explain the reason behind it. Initially he said the mother got married in 85 (actullay around 84) hence the chances are after 86 in Rahu dasa. I was not convinced with that and again asked ti explain the reasons. He has given the reason why he has not selected the Mars Dasa. The Conversation is attached herewith.The reason behind my consistent query to him to find out his interpretation and reason behind it.His interpretation and his intuition as he said guided him perfectly. Many thanks and wishes for the participants for their great effort.AS I SAID IN THE QUIZ ITSELF CLEARLY " PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH OF THE SIGNIFICATORS " IN ALL ASPECTS.ALSO PLS GIVE IMPORTANCE TO NODES (As I ever say..MULTI FACED WEAPONS). If SAT is a strong signifiicator SAT's role will be there during the event as our Guruji KSK said.This is not an easy " Quiz " . If I were one among you, I also might have failed. Hope we learn from each failures.Good Luck!With RegardsAdith The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Dear Ramesh ji,Pls go through my analysis carefully which I attached along with the Result.pls give concentartion to the chart where the signficators are given with their strength and weakness.Good Luck! AdithOn Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 4:49 PM, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Adith Ji and Biprid Ji, This explanation for approaching the time was insufficient for me to understand.As I told earlier I am learning this system I could not get the explanation to my satisfaction. My first query is that why Mars main could not give the event of childbirth when therewas 2 years left for Mars to go. Mars is the significator of 5th and 11th house. Mars is tthe starlord of Venus who is CSL of 2,5 and 11. It means Ma and Ve both of these planets are responsible for giving the result in its dasa.bhukti.antar. But none of these planet took part .Why? Can you please make me understand ? After getting the answer I may proceed for further query.Since I am in learning stage my question may not be liked by you but it is for me necessary to understand.So if you like to give the answers I shall be highly obliged to you. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra rcmastro--- On Thu, 28/1/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinathRe: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Date: Thursday, 28 January, 2010, 8:00 AM Dear KSV Ramani ji, Thanks . Keep participating in the future quiz. As I said, it is not an easy one. There are more possibility of wrong selection . If I were also one among the participants, I might have failed also. Becasue while analysis we have to be more concentrated and keen, since many cases may be of such in nature. Regards Adith On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:32 PM, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear Sri Adithji, Excellent way of presentation of your analysis. The importance given by you or finding the strength of planets is very nice and good lesson to learners. Thanks for mentioning my name too. Congrats. With very best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani - adith kasinath.g.k @gro ups.com Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:54 PM QUIZ 17 RESULTS [4 Attachments] Dear Friends and Participants,Here is the Result: SHE GOT HER MALE BABY DURING RAHU- SAT- SUN DATE: 2/12/1992 3.47 PM CHENNAI when MOON IN SAT SIGN AND RAHU STAR. WINNER: MR. BIPS VASAWADA (BIPRID) : RAHU-SAT-VENUSHEARTY CONGRATULATION TO HIM! HATS OFF!! I ALSO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE RAHU DASA (Ramesh Mishra ji, Dhananjay Kekuda ji, VijayaMohan ji, KSV Ramani ji and Vgr Pawan ji ). I have attached herewith the Score Board with explanation.I have attached my analysis report also. I have attached the analysis report by Biprid.Kind Note: (DISCUSSION WITH BIPRID)I have also attached a file complilation of my discussion with Mr. Biprid .The reason behind is that: He is the only one who almost hits the Bulls Eye. He has not selected Mars Dasa. He chose Rahu Dasa and Sat Bukthi. In his report through through 4 step method he said, given in excel sheet, I could not find the reasons for his selection. hence I asked him to explain the reason behind it. Initially he said the mother got married in 85 (actullay around 84) hence the chances are after 86 in Rahu dasa. I was not convinced with that and again asked ti explain the reasons. He has given the reason why he has not selected the Mars Dasa. The Conversation is attached herewith.The reason behind my consistent query to him to find out his interpretation and reason behind it.His interpretation and his intuition as he said guided him perfectly. Many thanks and wishes for the participants for their great effort.AS I SAID IN THE QUIZ ITSELF CLEARLY " PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH OF THE SIGNIFICATORS " IN ALL ASPECTS.ALSO PLS GIVE IMPORTANCE TO NODES (As I ever say..MULTI FACED WEAPONS). If SAT is a strong signifiicator SAT's role will be there during the event as our Guruji KSK said.This is not an easy " Quiz " . If I were one among you, I also might have failed. Hope we learn from each failures.Good Luck!With RegardsAdith Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Dear Vijay Mohan ji,All the 6 Readers (written by KSK) are available in Tamil and the Sublord spreaks 1,2,3 are also available in Tamil. " Other publications like " KP Jodhida Pokkisam " are also available in Tamil. But I do not know where are these available in Bangalore.Hope u can get any good book shops.Good Luck!AdithOn Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:22 AM, vijaya mohan <vijayamohan81 wrote: Dear adithji. Thank u very much for the quiz, and analysis,which help us to understand k p system. Pl. suggest me to learn k p sys in tamil. suggest the name of the book,available in banglore. thanks and regards adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath Thu, 28 January, 2010 8:00:41 AMRe: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Dear KSV Ramani ji, Thanks . Keep participating in the future quiz. As I said, it is not an easy one. There are more possibility of wrong selection . If I were also one among the participants, I might have failed also. Becasue while analysis we have to be more concentrated and keen, since many cases may be of such in nature. Regards Adith On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:32 PM, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear Sri Adithji, Excellent way of presentation of your analysis. The importance given by you or finding the strength of planets is very nice and good lesson to learners. Thanks for mentioning my name too. Congrats. With very best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani - adith kasinath.g.k @gro ups.com Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:54 PM QUIZ 17 RESULTS [4 Attachments] Dear Friends and Participants,Here is the Result: SHE GOT HER MALE BABY DURING RAHU- SAT- SUN DATE: 2/12/1992 3.47 PM CHENNAI when MOON IN SAT SIGN AND RAHU STAR. WINNER: MR. BIPS VASAWADA (BIPRID) : RAHU-SAT-VENUSHEARTY CONGRATULATION TO HIM! HATS OFF!! I ALSO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE RAHU DASA (Ramesh Mishra ji, Dhananjay Kekuda ji, VijayaMohan ji, KSV Ramani ji and Vgr Pawan ji ). I have attached herewith the Score Board with explanation.I have attached my analysis report also.I have attached the analysis report by Biprid. Kind Note: (DISCUSSION WITH BIPRID)I have also attached a file complilation of my discussion with Mr. Biprid .The reason behind is that: He is the only one who almost hits the Bulls Eye. He has not selected Mars Dasa. He chose Rahu Dasa and Sat Bukthi. In his report through through 4 step method he said, given in excel sheet, I could not find the reasons for his selection. hence I asked him to explain the reason behind it. Initially he said the mother got married in 85 (actullay around 84) hence the chances are after 86 in Rahu dasa. I was not convinced with that and again asked ti explain the reasons. He has given the reason why he has not selected the Mars Dasa. The Conversation is attached herewith. The reason behind my consistent query to him to find out his interpretation and reason behind it.His interpretation and his intuition as he said guided him perfectly.Many thanks and wishes for the participants for their great effort. AS I SAID IN THE QUIZ ITSELF CLEARLY " PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH OF THE SIGNIFICATORS " IN ALL ASPECTS.ALSO PLS GIVE IMPORTANCE TO NODES (As I ever say..MULTI FACED WEAPONS).If SAT is a strong signifiicator SAT's role will be there during the event as our Guruji KSK said. This is not an easy " Quiz " . If I were one among you, I also might have failed.Hope we learn from each failures. Good Luck!With RegardsAdith Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010  Dear Sri Senthil, Reg. Quiz No.17, your doubt about signification of 2nd house, Shri Adithji in the Quiz itself specifically requested us to find out the strength of each planet. No doubt the 2nd house is signified by Sun, Venus, Mars as star lord of 2nd cusp, and Saturn. If you assess the strength, you will find that (1) Sun, thro' his sub Saturn signifies 3. 2, 6,9. (2) Venus, though with self strength is in the sub of Jupiter at 8th, besides his stong ownership of 10th, which are not fruitful for 2nd house. (3) Mars though with self strength and star lord of 2nd cusp, is lord of 4th besides his sub being Mercury in 6th, which are not fruitul for 2nd cuso. (4) Lastly Saturn with self strength is lord of 2nd cusp, which is vacaant, and he is in his own sub again signifying 2nd house. So he is strongst significator. You may doubt why Sun in the sub of same Saturn signifying 2nd house cannot be taken for 2nd strongest significator. This is because Saturn aspects both Sun and Venus by his 3rd apect. By this aspect Saturn takes the powers of both Venus and Sun and Saturn is sole strong significator for 2nd house. This is correctly seen from the event happenned in Rahu Dasa Saturn Bhukthi and Sun Anthara. 2nd significator strong by itself Saturn is given preference as Bhukthi lord over the Sun who is subservient to Saturn. Hope this may clear your doubt. With best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani - Senthil Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:37 PM Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Dear Adith, It is a very nice quiz. But however we are yet to find the other hidden RULES which decide the house matter. Have you checked the participants Ruling planets how far it helped the astrologer to fix the date of event etc. The RP at the time of my judgment place & a horary number helped me to fix the child birth lagna, 4th cusp/9th cusp planet connection, transit of sun to some extend correct except moon transit and DBA thus the end result was wrong. Below points are for discussion and not to criticize you (or) anybody. For Example, suppose planets signifying 2nd house, Here SAT, SUN & VEN (VEN is the 2nd CSL and there is no planet in VEN star and thus VEN becomes strongest significator which you have not considered at all, the reason is not clear) If we go always the strongest then all the house karaka represents by 2nd house (money, addition in family member for child/marriage etc etc) should be given by only ONE planet which may not happen except there is only ONE planet and nothing else connected to 2nd house. Suppose if we put the following questions how will you select the correct DBA (for past events)? 1. When she got married? (Selection of 2nd house significator) 2. When she got 1st Child birth? (Again selection of 2nd house significator) 3. When she got 2nd Child birth? (Again selection of 2nd house significator) (Assuming that the above events happened to a particular lady) Suppose incase of INDIA, in general the child birth happens after marriage only (some exceptional case let us ignore it) But if you consider foreign people charts (US etc) the childbirth may happen before marriage because of the local culture/living style etc. Here the logic will not work. Now how will you pick the significator? Members also can through some light on the above. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil--- On Wed, 1/27/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 5:32 AM Adithji Pranam,thanks alot for exciting quiz , yes really enjoyed alot,....... .congratulations to Sri Biprid ji for his very close timing......very good exercise indeed and good explanation from you but a small doubt from me,As per your explanation if rahu derives power by being in the sub of "Sun" who in turn in the star of mars l/o 4,11 in 5 , then why moon and kethu are weak by being in the sub of venus (venus stars unoccupied may be thats why you stopped here not going to her star level), for the reason that she is 10 lord and 10 vacant. Isnt it mars is also strong for 4 then how rahu be fruitful then. Actually venus is sublord for 2,5,6,9,11 houses and occupant of 5th cusp which is 6th from 10th cusp, seems to be stronger than sun! can you kindly clarify in this regard, i am not pointing pls dnt take it otherwise i just want clarity thats all. Once again thanks alot for your wonderful quiz and very good presentation of results. my hearty congrats to all those participants. Guruji bless us All !!regardsPeace and Prosperity to All !!VGR--- On Wed, 27/1/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> QUIZ 17 RESULTS [4 Attachments]@gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 3:54 PM Dear Friends and Participants,Here is the Result: SHE GOT HER MALE BABY DURING RAHU- SAT- SUN DATE: 2/12/1992 3.47 PM CHENNAI when MOON IN SAT SIGN AND RAHU STAR. WINNER: MR. BIPS VASAWADA (BIPRID) : RAHU-SAT-VENUSHEARTY CONGRATULATION TO HIM! HATS OFF!! I ALSO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE RAHU DASA (Ramesh Mishra ji, Dhananjay Kekuda ji, VijayaMohan ji, KSV Ramani ji and Vgr Pawan ji ). I have attached herewith the Score Board with explanation.I have attached my analysis report also.I have attached the analysis report by Biprid.Kind Note: (DISCUSSION WITH BIPRID)I have also attached a file complilation of my discussion with Mr. Biprid .The reason behind is that: He is the only one who almost hits the Bulls Eye. He has not selected Mars Dasa. He chose Rahu Dasa and Sat Bukthi. In his report through through 4 step method he said, given in excel sheet, I could not find the reasons for his selection.hence I asked him to explain the reason behind it. Initially he said the mother got married in 85 (actullay around 84) hence the chances are after 86 in Rahu dasa. I was not convinced with that and again asked ti explain the reasons. He has given the reason why he has not selected the Mars Dasa. The Conversation is attached herewith.The reason behind my consistent query to him to find out his interpretation and reason behind it.His interpretation and his intuition as he said guided him perfectly.Many thanks and wishes for the participants for their great effort.AS I SAID IN THE QUIZ ITSELF CLEARLY "PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH OF THE SIGNIFICATORS" IN ALL ASPECTS.ALSO PLS GIVE IMPORTANCE TO NODES (As I ever say..MULTI FACED WEAPONS).If SAT is a strong signifiicator SAT's role will be there during the event as our Guruji KSK said.This is not an easy "Quiz". If I were one among you, I also might have failed.Hope we learn from each failures.Good Luck!With RegardsAdith The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010  Dear Ramesh Mishraji, Your inquisitiveness to learn and apply the same in pracice is very much appreciable. This is what required to improve the knowledge to put theory into pracice. I hope by now you may be knowing the fundamental principle of K.P.system that the Planet is the souce; Constellation indicates the nature of the result and the sub is the deciding factor whether the matter is fruitful or not. For you to understand it clearly, let me give a you small example. A native of Aris Lagna. His 5th cusp Leo is the sign indicating his daughter. The sign lord is Sun strong for 5th is indicating about his daughter and also 5th is meant for celebration of auspicious event. (source) The constellation lord of the 5th cusp is significator for 6th, 11th and 3rd of the native's chart, this indicates daughter's marriage affair - 2, 7 and 11 of the daughter (treating 5th as Lagna of daughter). (nature of the result). Now important planet sub-lord signifies 12th and also strongly placed in 12. 12th is for heavy expenditure. What this 5th cusp indicates? The native is trying to celebrate his daughter's marriage for which he has to incur heavy expenditure. This will be during the period of DBA conjointly runs. According to fundamental principle stated above, 5th is source (about his daughter), Constellation shows marriage affair of his daughter (nature) and the sub indicates expenditure (the result of the nature indicated by source. Siilarly in the case of Quiz No.17, Planet is Mars (which is doubted by you). Source is correct 5th signifn, for child birth. Mars is in the constellation of his own with self strength (again indication of birth of child, 11th indicates fulfilment of desire. O.K. Now the important final deciding authority i.e. Sub of Mars. It is Mercury placed in 6th which is not good for birth of child. Merc. is in star and sub of Rah in 3 conjoined with Saturn. As you say, though Mars has his major period upto Decr.1985, but Mars is devoid of fruitful sub for him to give the event. Venus and Sun are no doubt strong for 5th. Now examine the strength of them as above. Sun is in 5th and in the star of Mars - O,K. He is in the sub of Satn. a significator of strong 2nd. But Sun is afflicted by the aspect of Saturn, who is in the star of Mercury in 6th. Take Venus another signfr, for 5th and S/L of 5th, a strong self strength planet. Venus is in the star of Mars in 5th O.K. But Venus is in the sub of Jupiter at 8th with self strength. Moreover, both Sun and Venus are aspected by Saturn and thus afflicted. On the contrary Saturn will get the power of both Venus and Sun due to his aspect on them. Saturn is strong significator for 2nd house. Next period is Rahu who is in 3 in conjunction with Saturn absorbing power of Saturn by himself. Rahu is in the sub of (final deciding authority) Moon, who is strong signfr. of 5th thro' his star lord Sun and also by his sub lord Venus. So Rahu is beneficial for giving child birth, Please note that 3rd signification is also required for the child to come out from mother's body. Since you say you are in learning process, I have elaborated the position of planets. I shall be much pleased if you could understand it properly. the DBA planets. Like this in the Quiz 17, you are right that Mars Dasa period is yet to go till Decr.1985. Here Planet is Mars under discussion. Mars is strong signfr. of 5th to give chiled. You further examine his star lord which is Mars. O.K. It is same. You further examine the sub lord of the planet Mars as per the fundamental prinicple explained above. It is Mercury strong significator for 6th. Mars the planet is also strong for 4th which is 12th to 5th for child birth (negative). So Mars period goes off without fruitful result. Next is Rahu to run period. Rahu is not with self strength. He is in 3rd Bhavam along with Saturn. Rahu is node which is given importance in KP. By substitution theory he is inserted as substitute for a planet with which he is connected either by conjunction, aspect or sub etc. Here he gets power of Saturn with whom he is conjoined. Saturn is strong for 2nd, 3rd, 5th by its aspect. 3rd signification is a must in the case of delivery, as it is 12th to 4th permanent residence. 3rd signification will enable the child to come out from its mother's body. Final deciding authority viz sub of the Planet Rahu, it is Moon who is in the star of Sun at 5 and sub of Venus also at 5 with self strength. So Moon is fully favourable for delivering the child. Since you say that you are under learning process. I have elaborated my explanation. If you could understand this minute details, I shall be happy. In short you have to study the strength of planet and study whether it is useful for the event or not in great care. Hope I have clarified your doubt. Pl.ack,receipt. With best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani --- Original Message ----- ramesh mishra Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:49 PM Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Dear Adith Ji and Biprid Ji, This explanation for approaching the time was insufficient for me to understand.As I told earlier I am learning this system I could not get the explanation to my satisfaction. My first query is that why Mars main could not give the event of childbirth when therewas 2 years left for Mars to go. Mars is the significator of 5th and 11th house. Mars is tthe starlord of Venus who is CSL of 2,5 and 11. It means Ma and Ve both of these planets are responsible for giving the result in its dasa.bhukti.antar. But none of these planet took part .Why? Can you please make me understand ? After getting the answer I may proceed for further query.Since I am in learning stage my question may not be liked by you but it is for me necessary to understand.So if you like to give the answers I shall be highly obliged to you. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra rcmastro--- On Thu, 28/1/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath > wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath >Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Date: Thursday, 28 January, 2010, 8:00 AM Dear KSV Ramani ji, Thanks . Keep participating in the future quiz. As I said, it is not an easy one. There are more possibility of wrong selection . If I were also one among the participants, I might have failed also. Becasue while analysis we have to be more concentrated and keen, since many cases may be of such in nature. Regards Adith On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:32 PM, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear Sri Adithji, Excellent way of presentation of your analysis. The importance given by you or finding the strength of planets is very nice and good lesson to learners. Thanks for mentioning my name too. Congrats. With very best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani - adith kasinath.g.k @gro ups.com Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:54 PM QUIZ 17 RESULTS [4 Attachments] Dear Friends and Participants,Here is the Result: SHE GOT HER MALE BABY DURING RAHU- SAT- SUN DATE: 2/12/1992 3.47 PM CHENNAI when MOON IN SAT SIGN AND RAHU STAR. WINNER: MR. BIPS VASAWADA (BIPRID) : RAHU-SAT-VENUSHEARTY CONGRATULATION TO HIM! HATS OFF!! I ALSO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE RAHU DASA (Ramesh Mishra ji, Dhananjay Kekuda ji, VijayaMohan ji, KSV Ramani ji and Vgr Pawan ji ). I have attached herewith the Score Board with explanation.I have attached my analysis report also.I have attached the analysis report by Biprid.Kind Note: (DISCUSSION WITH BIPRID)I have also attached a file complilation of my discussion with Mr. Biprid .The reason behind is that: He is the only one who almost hits the Bulls Eye. He has not selected Mars Dasa. He chose Rahu Dasa and Sat Bukthi. In his report through through 4 step method he said, given in excel sheet, I could not find the reasons for his selection.hence I asked him to explain the reason behind it. Initially he said the mother got married in 85 (actullay around 84) hence the chances are after 86 in Rahu dasa. I was not convinced with that and again asked ti explain the reasons. He has given the reason why he has not selected the Mars Dasa. The Conversation is attached herewith.The reason behind my consistent query to him to find out his interpretation and reason behind it.His interpretation and his intuition as he said guided him perfectly.Many thanks and wishes for the participants for their great effort.AS I SAID IN THE QUIZ ITSELF CLEARLY "PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH OF THE SIGNIFICATORS" IN ALL ASPECTS.ALSO PLS GIVE IMPORTANCE TO NODES (As I ever say..MULTI FACED WEAPONS).If SAT is a strong signifiicator SAT's role will be there during the event as our Guruji KSK said.This is not an easy "Quiz". If I were one among you, I also might have failed.Hope we learn from each failures.Good Luck!With RegardsAdith Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Dear KSV Ramani ji,Nicely presented.In Quiz 17, SUN is a strong significator and has done his role where as VENUS did not.Both are aspected by Lord of 2 (Sat) which is good but shows the delay. But Venus lord of 5 is afflicted by SUN the lord of 8. SUN being conjoined with VENUS the lord of 5 , posited in 5 and aspected by Lord of 2 are some important things.MOreover both SUN and Venus are in the star of MArs who is in 5 closely conjoined with 6th cusp. and also signfiies 4 which is not good. but the sublord of each makes the difference. But Sun is again gets his strength through his Sublord SAT (who has no planet n its star and also aspects SUN) and the only signifcator of 2 whereas VEN is not so..Hence each planet's self strength (position, lordship, aspects, conjn.,), its star level signification and its sublevel and its star level significations are all to be considered.  As well while selecting the Significators, we have to look into the following :i) The planet in the star of the occupant (A)ii) The occupant (B)iii) The planet in the sub of the occupant © (if there is no planet in the occupant (A) iv) The planet in the sub of the planet whose star lord is the occupant (D). It means " planets in the sub of " A " (backward theory) v) The planet in the star of the house lord ©vi) The House lord (E) v) The Nodes to be carefully studied.Each significators have to be studied well for their strength in all aspects.Sometimes this will be a tedious and time taking process.Thanks and RegardsAdith On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:21 PM, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani wrote:   Dear Ramesh Mishraji,  Your inquisitiveness to learn and apply the same in pracice is very much appreciable. This is what required to improve the knowledge to put theory into pracice. I hope by now you may be knowing the fundamental principle of K.P.system that the Planet is the souce; Constellation indicates the nature of the result and the sub is the deciding factor whether the matter is fruitful or not. For you to understand it clearly, let me give a you small example. A native of Aris Lagna. His 5th cusp Leo is the sign indicating his daughter. The sign lord is Sun strong for 5th is indicating about his daughter and also 5th is meant for celebration of auspicious event. (source) The constellation lord of the 5th cusp is significator for 6th, 11th and 3rd of the native's chart, this indicates daughter's marriage affair - 2, 7 and 11 of the daughter (treating 5th as Lagna of daughter). (nature of the result). Now important planet sub-lord signifies 12th and also strongly placed in 12. 12th is for heavy expenditure. What this 5th cusp indicates? The native is trying to celebrate his daughter's marriage for which he has to incur heavy expenditure. This will be during the period of DBA conjointly runs. According to fundamental principle stated above, 5th is source (about his daughter), Constellation shows marriage affair of his daughter (nature) and the sub indicates expenditure (the result of the nature indicated by source. Siilarly in the case of Quiz No.17, Planet is Mars (which is doubted by you). Source is correct 5th signifn, for child birth. Mars is in the constellation of his own with self strength (again indication of birth of child, 11th indicates fulfilment of desire. O.K. Now the important final deciding authority i.e. Sub of Mars.  It is Mercury placed in 6th which is not good for birth of child. Merc. is in star and sub of Rah in 3 conjoined with Saturn. As you say, though Mars has his major period upto Decr.1985, but Mars is devoid of fruitful sub for him to give the event. Venus and Sun are no doubt strong for 5th. Now examine the strength of them as above. Sun is in 5th and in the star of Mars - O,K. He is in the sub of Satn. a significator of strong 2nd. But Sun is afflicted by the aspect of Saturn, who is in the star of Mercury in 6th. Take Venus another signfr, for 5th and S/L of 5th, a strong self strength planet. Venus is in the star of Mars in 5th O.K. But Venus is in the sub of Jupiter at 8th with self strength. Moreover, both Sun and Venus are aspected by Saturn and thus afflicted. On the contrary Saturn will get the power of both Venus and Sun due to his aspect on them. Saturn is strong significator for 2nd house. Next period is Rahu who is in 3 in conjunction with Saturn absorbing power of Saturn by himself. Rahu is in the sub of (final deciding authority) Moon, who is strong signfr. of 5th thro' his star  lord Sun and also by his sub lord Venus. So Rahu is beneficial for giving child birth, Please note that 3rd signification is also required for the child to come out from mother's body. Since you say you are in learning process, I have elaborated the position of planets. I shall be much pleased if you could understand it properly. the DBA planets. Like this in the Quiz 17, you are right that Mars Dasa period is yet to go till Decr.1985. Here Planet is Mars under discussion. Mars is strong signfr. of 5th to give chiled. You further examine his star lord which is Mars. O.K. It is same. You further examine the sub lord of the planet Mars as per the fundamental prinicple explained above. It is Mercury strong significator for 6th. Mars the planet is also strong for 4th which is 12th to 5th for child birth (negative). So Mars period goes off without fruitful result. Next is Rahu to run period. Rahu is not with self strength. He is in 3rd Bhavam along with Saturn. Rahu is node which is given importance in KP. By substitution theory he is inserted as substitute for a planet with which he is connected either by conjunction, aspect or sub etc. Here he gets power of Saturn with whom he is conjoined. Saturn is strong for 2nd, 3rd, 5th by its aspect. 3rd signification is a must in the case of delivery, as it is 12th to 4th permanent residence. 3rd signification will enable the child to come out from its mother's body. Final deciding authority viz sub of the Planet Rahu, it is Moon who is in the star of Sun at 5 and sub of Venus also at 5 with self strength. So Moon is fully favourable for delivering the child. Since you say that you are under learning process. I have elaborated my explanation. If you could understand this minute details, I shall be happy. In short you have to study the strength of planet and study whether it is useful for the event or not in great care. Hope I have clarified your doubt. Pl.ack,receipt.  With best wishes,  K.S.V.Ramani --- Original Message ----- ramesh mishra Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:49 PM Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS  Dear Adith Ji and Biprid Ji, This explanation for approaching the time was insufficient for me to understand.As I told earlier I am learning this system I could not get the explanation to my satisfaction.  My first query is that why Mars main could not give the event of childbirth when therewas 2 years left for Mars to go.  Mars is the significator of 5th and 11th house. Mars is tthe starlord of Venus who is CSL of 2,5 and 11. It means Ma and Ve both of these planets are responsible for giving the result in its dasa.bhukti.antar.  But none of these  planet took part .Why? Can you please make me understand ? After getting the answer I may proceed for further query.Since I am in learning stage my question may not be liked by you but it is for me necessary to understand.So if you like to give the answers I shall be highly obliged to you.  Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra rcmastro--- On Thu, 28/1/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinathRe: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Date: Thursday, 28 January, 2010, 8:00 AM  Dear KSV Ramani ji,  Thanks .  Keep participating in the future quiz.  As I said, it is not an easy one. There are more possibility of wrong selection . If I were also one among the participants, I might have failed also. Becasue while analysis we have to be more concentrated and keen, since many cases may be of such in nature.  Regards Adith On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:32 PM, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote:  Dear Sri Adithji,  Excellent way of presentation of your analysis. The importance given by you or finding the strength of planets is very nice and good lesson to learners. Thanks for mentioning my name too. Congrats.  With very best wishes,  K.S.V.Ramani - adith kasinath.g.k @gro ups.com Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:54 PM QUIZ 17 RESULTS [4 Attachments]  Dear Friends and Participants,Here is the Result: SHE GOT HER MALE BABY DURING  RAHU- SAT- SUN DATE: 2/12/1992 3.47 PM CHENNAI  when MOON IN SAT SIGN AND RAHU STAR. WINNER: MR. BIPS VASAWADA (BIPRID) : RAHU-SAT-VENUSHEARTY CONGRATULATION TO HIM! HATS OFF!! I ALSO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE RAHU DASA (Ramesh Mishra ji, Dhananjay Kekuda ji, VijayaMohan ji, KSV Ramani ji and Vgr Pawan ji ). I have attached herewith the Score Board with explanation.I have attached my analysis report also.I have attached the analysis report by Biprid.Kind Note: (DISCUSSION WITH BIPRID)I have also attached a file complilation of my discussion with Mr. Biprid .The reason behind is that: He is the only one who almost hits the Bulls Eye. He has not selected Mars Dasa. He chose Rahu Dasa and Sat Bukthi. In his report through through 4 step method he said, given in excel sheet, I could not find the reasons for his selection.hence I asked him to explain the reason behind it. Initially he said the mother got married in 85 (actullay around 84) hence the chances are after 86 in Rahu dasa. I was not convinced with that and again asked ti explain the reasons. He has given the reason why he has not selected the Mars Dasa. The Conversation is attached herewith.The reason behind my consistent query to him to find out his interpretation and reason behind it.His interpretation and his intuition as he said guided him perfectly.Many thanks and wishes for the participants for their great effort.AS I SAID IN THE QUIZ ITSELF CLEARLY " PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH OF THE SIGNIFICATORS " IN ALL ASPECTS.ALSO PLS GIVE IMPORTANCE TO NODES (As I ever say..MULTI FACED WEAPONS).If SAT is a strong signifiicator SAT's role will be there during the event as our Guruji KSK said.This is not an easy " Quiz " . If I were one among you, I also might have failed.Hope we learn from each failures.Good Luck!With RegardsAdith Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Dear Ramaniji, The message is quite eduative. We need such explanations to learn. It's great. Thank you so much. With regards. Dr. Rath kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani Sent: Fri, January 29, 2010 6:21:23 PMRe: QUIZ 17 RESULTS  Dear Ramesh Mishraji, Your inquisitiveness to learn and apply the same in pracice is very much appreciable. This is what required to improve the knowledge to put theory into pracice. I hope by now you may be knowing the fundamental principle of K.P.system that the Planet is the souce; Constellation indicates the nature of the result and the sub is the deciding factor whether the matter is fruitful or not. For you to understand it clearly, let me give a you small example. A native of Aris Lagna. His 5th cusp Leo is the sign indicating his daughter. The sign lord is Sun strong for 5th is indicating about his daughter and also 5th is meant for celebration of auspicious event. (source) The constellation lord of the 5th cusp is significator for 6th, 11th and 3rd of the native's chart, this indicates daughter's marriage affair - 2, 7 and 11 of the daughter (treating 5th as Lagna of daughter). (nature of the result). Now important planet sub-lord signifies 12th and also strongly placed in 12. 12th is for heavy expenditure. What this 5th cusp indicates? The native is trying to celebrate his daughter's marriage for which he has to incur heavy expenditure. This will be during the period of DBA conjointly runs. According to fundamental principle stated above, 5th is source (about his daughter), Constellation shows marriage affair of his daughter (nature) and the sub indicates expenditure (the result of the nature indicated by source. Siilarly in the case of Quiz No.17, Planet is Mars (which is doubted by you). Source is correct 5th signifn, for child birth. Mars is in the constellation of his own with self strength (again indication of birth of child, 11th indicates fulfilment of desire. O.K. Now the important final deciding authority i.e. Sub of Mars. It is Mercury placed in 6th which is not good for birth of child. Merc. is in star and sub of Rah in 3 conjoined with Saturn. As you say, though Mars has his major period upto Decr.1985, but Mars is devoid of fruitful sub for him to give the event. Venus and Sun are no doubt strong for 5th. Now examine the strength of them as above. Sun is in 5th and in the star of Mars - O,K. He is in the sub of Satn. a significator of strong 2nd. But Sun is afflicted by the aspect of Saturn, who is in the star of Mercury in 6th. Take Venus another signfr, for 5th and S/L of 5th, a strong self strength planet. Venus is in the star of Mars in 5th O.K. But Venus is in the sub of Jupiter at 8th with self strength. Moreover, both Sun and Venus are aspected by Saturn and thus afflicted. On the contrary Saturn will get the power of both Venus and Sun due to his aspect on them. Saturn is strong significator for 2nd house. Next period is Rahu who is in 3 in conjunction with Saturn absorbing power of Saturn by himself. Rahu is in the sub of (final deciding authority) Moon, who is strong signfr. of 5th thro' his star lord Sun and also by his sub lord Venus. So Rahu is beneficial for giving child birth, Please note that 3rd signification is also required for the child to come out from mother's body. Since you say you are in learning process, I have elaborated the position of planets. I shall be much pleased if you could understand it properly. the DBA planets. Like this in the Quiz 17, you are right that Mars Dasa period is yet to go till Decr.1985. Here Planet is Mars under discussion. Mars is strong signfr. of 5th to give chiled. You further examine his star lord which is Mars. O.K. It is same. You further examine the sub lord of the planet Mars as per the fundamental prinicple explained above. It is Mercury strong significator for 6th. Mars the planet is also strong for 4th which is 12th to 5th for child birth (negative). So Mars period goes off without fruitful result. Next is Rahu to run period. Rahu is not with self strength. He is in 3rd Bhavam along with Saturn. Rahu is node which is given importance in KP. By substitution theory he is inserted as substitute for a planet with which he is connected either by conjunction, aspect or sub etc. Here he gets power of Saturn with whom he is conjoined. Saturn is strong for 2nd, 3rd, 5th by its aspect. 3rd signification is a must in the case of delivery, as it is 12th to 4th permanent residence. 3rd signification will enable the child to come out from its mother's body. Final deciding authority viz sub of the Planet Rahu, it is Moon who is in the star of Sun at 5 and sub of Venus also at 5 with self strength. So Moon is fully favourable for delivering the child. Since you say that you are under learning process. I have elaborated my explanation. If you could understand this minute details, I shall be happy. In short you have to study the strength of planet and study whether it is useful for the event or not in great care. Hope I have clarified your doubt. Pl.ack,receipt. With best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani --- Original Message ----- ramesh mishra @gro ups.com Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:49 PM Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Dear Adith Ji and Biprid Ji, This explanation for approaching the time was insufficient for me to understand.As I told earlier I am learning this system I could not get the explanation to my satisfaction. My first query is that why Mars main could not give the event of childbirth when therewas 2 years left for Mars to go. Mars is the significator of 5th and 11th house. Mars is tthe starlord of Venus who is CSL of 2,5 and 11. It means Ma and Ve both of these planets are responsible for giving the result in its dasa.bhukti. antar. But none of these planet took part .Why? Can you please make me understand ? After getting the answer I may proceed for further query.Since I am in learning stage my question may not be liked by you but it is for me necessary to understand.So if you like to give the answers I shall be highly obliged to you. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra rcmastro--- On Thu, 28/1/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS@gro ups.comThursday, 28 January, 2010, 8:00 AM Dear KSV Ramani ji, Thanks . Keep participating in the future quiz. As I said, it is not an easy one. There are more possibility of wrong selection . If I were also one among the participants, I might have failed also. Becasue while analysis we have to be more concentrated and keen, since many cases may be of such in nature. Regards Adith On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:32 PM, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear Sri Adithji, Excellent way of presentation of your analysis. The importance given by you or finding the strength of planets is very nice and good lesson to learners. Thanks for mentioning my name too. Congrats. With very best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani - adith kasinath.g.k @gro ups.com Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:54 PM QUIZ 17 RESULTS [4 Attachments] Dear Friends and Participants,Here is the Result: SHE GOT HER MALE BABY DURING RAHU- SAT- SUN DATE: 2/12/1992 3.47 PM CHENNAI when MOON IN SAT SIGN AND RAHU STAR. WINNER: MR. BIPS VASAWADA (BIPRID) : RAHU-SAT-VENUSHEARTY CONGRATULATION TO HIM! HATS OFF!! I ALSO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE RAHU DASA (Ramesh Mishra ji, Dhananjay Kekuda ji, VijayaMohan ji, KSV Ramani ji and Vgr Pawan ji ). I have attached herewith the Score Board with explanation.I have attached my analysis report also.I have attached the analysis report by Biprid.Kind Note: (DISCUSSION WITH BIPRID)I have also attached a file complilation of my discussion with Mr. Biprid .The reason behind is that: He is the only one who almost hits the Bulls Eye. He has not selected Mars Dasa. He chose Rahu Dasa and Sat Bukthi. In his report through through 4 step method he said, given in excel sheet, I could not find the reasons for his selection.hence I asked him to explain the reason behind it. Initially he said the mother got married in 85 (actullay around 84) hence the chances are after 86 in Rahu dasa. I was not convinced with that and again asked ti explain the reasons. He has given the reason why he has not selected the Mars Dasa. The Conversation is attached herewith.The reason behind my consistent query to him to find out his interpretation and reason behind it.His interpretation and his intuition as he said guided him perfectly.Many thanks and wishes for the participants for their great effort.AS I SAID IN THE QUIZ ITSELF CLEARLY "PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH OF THE SIGNIFICATORS" IN ALL ASPECTS.ALSO PLS GIVE IMPORTANCE TO NODES (As I ever say..MULTI FACED WEAPONS).If SAT is a strong signifiicator SAT's role will be there during the event as our Guruji KSK said.This is not an easy "Quiz". If I were one among you, I also might have failed.Hope we learn from each failures.Good Luck!With RegardsAdith Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010  Dear Dr. Rath, Many thanks for your appreciation. It gives good encouragement to recive such complement from a senior and and experience person like you. Thanks and regards, K.S.V.Ramani - Luther Rath Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:09 AM Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Dear Ramaniji, The message is quite eduative. We need such explanations to learn. It's great. Thank you so much. With regards. Dr. Rath kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani > Sent: Fri, January 29, 2010 6:21:23 PMRe: QUIZ 17 RESULTS  Dear Ramesh Mishraji, Your inquisitiveness to learn and apply the same in pracice is very much appreciable. This is what required to improve the knowledge to put theory into pracice. I hope by now you may be knowing the fundamental principle of K.P.system that the Planet is the souce; Constellation indicates the nature of the result and the sub is the deciding factor whether the matter is fruitful or not. For you to understand it clearly, let me give a you small example. A native of Aris Lagna. His 5th cusp Leo is the sign indicating his daughter. The sign lord is Sun strong for 5th is indicating about his daughter and also 5th is meant for celebration of auspicious event. (source) The constellation lord of the 5th cusp is significator for 6th, 11th and 3rd of the native's chart, this indicates daughter's marriage affair - 2, 7 and 11 of the daughter (treating 5th as Lagna of daughter). (nature of the result). Now important planet sub-lord signifies 12th and also strongly placed in 12. 12th is for heavy expenditure. What this 5th cusp indicates? The native is trying to celebrate his daughter's marriage for which he has to incur heavy expenditure. This will be during the period of DBA conjointly runs. According to fundamental principle stated above, 5th is source (about his daughter), Constellation shows marriage affair of his daughter (nature) and the sub indicates expenditure (the result of the nature indicated by source. Siilarly in the case of Quiz No.17, Planet is Mars (which is doubted by you). Source is correct 5th signifn, for child birth. Mars is in the constellation of his own with self strength (again indication of birth of child, 11th indicates fulfilment of desire. O.K. Now the important final deciding authority i.e. Sub of Mars. It is Mercury placed in 6th which is not good for birth of child. Merc. is in star and sub of Rah in 3 conjoined with Saturn. As you say, though Mars has his major period upto Decr.1985, but Mars is devoid of fruitful sub for him to give the event. Venus and Sun are no doubt strong for 5th. Now examine the strength of them as above. Sun is in 5th and in the star of Mars - O,K. He is in the sub of Satn. a significator of strong 2nd. But Sun is afflicted by the aspect of Saturn, who is in the star of Mercury in 6th. Take Venus another signfr, for 5th and S/L of 5th, a strong self strength planet. Venus is in the star of Mars in 5th O.K. But Venus is in the sub of Jupiter at 8th with self strength. Moreover, both Sun and Venus are aspected by Saturn and thus afflicted. On the contrary Saturn will get the power of both Venus and Sun due to his aspect on them. Saturn is strong significator for 2nd house. Next period is Rahu who is in 3 in conjunction with Saturn absorbing power of Saturn by himself. Rahu is in the sub of (final deciding authority) Moon, who is strong signfr. of 5th thro' his star lord Sun and also by his sub lord Venus. So Rahu is beneficial for giving child birth, Please note that 3rd signification is also required for the child to come out from mother's body. Since you say you are in learning process, I have elaborated the position of planets. I shall be much pleased if you could understand it properly. the DBA planets. Like this in the Quiz 17, you are right that Mars Dasa period is yet to go till Decr.1985. Here Planet is Mars under discussion. Mars is strong signfr. of 5th to give chiled. You further examine his star lord which is Mars. O.K. It is same. You further examine the sub lord of the planet Mars as per the fundamental prinicple explained above. It is Mercury strong significator for 6th. Mars the planet is also strong for 4th which is 12th to 5th for child birth (negative). So Mars period goes off without fruitful result. Next is Rahu to run period. Rahu is not with self strength. He is in 3rd Bhavam along with Saturn. Rahu is node which is given importance in KP. By substitution theory he is inserted as substitute for a planet with which he is connected either by conjunction, aspect or sub etc. Here he gets power of Saturn with whom he is conjoined. Saturn is strong for 2nd, 3rd, 5th by its aspect. 3rd signification is a must in the case of delivery, as it is 12th to 4th permanent residence. 3rd signification will enable the child to come out from its mother's body. Final deciding authority viz sub of the Planet Rahu, it is Moon who is in the star of Sun at 5 and sub of Venus also at 5 with self strength. So Moon is fully favourable for delivering the child. Since you say that you are under learning process. I have elaborated my explanation. If you could understand this minute details, I shall be happy. In short you have to study the strength of planet and study whether it is useful for the event or not in great care. Hope I have clarified your doubt. Pl.ack,receipt. With best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani --- Original Message ----- ramesh mishra @gro ups.com Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:49 PM Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Dear Adith Ji and Biprid Ji, This explanation for approaching the time was insufficient for me to understand.As I told earlier I am learning this system I could not get the explanation to my satisfaction. My first query is that why Mars main could not give the event of childbirth when therewas 2 years left for Mars to go. Mars is the significator of 5th and 11th house. Mars is tthe starlord of Venus who is CSL of 2,5 and 11. It means Ma and Ve both of these planets are responsible for giving the result in its dasa.bhukti. antar. But none of these planet took part .Why? Can you please make me understand ? After getting the answer I may proceed for further query.Since I am in learning stage my question may not be liked by you but it is for me necessary to understand.So if you like to give the answers I shall be highly obliged to you. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra rcmastro--- On Thu, 28/1/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS@gro ups.comThursday, 28 January, 2010, 8:00 AM Dear KSV Ramani ji, Thanks . Keep participating in the future quiz. As I said, it is not an easy one. There are more possibility of wrong selection . If I were also one among the participants, I might have failed also. Becasue while analysis we have to be more concentrated and keen, since many cases may be of such in nature. Regards Adith On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:32 PM, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear Sri Adithji, Excellent way of presentation of your analysis. The importance given by you or finding the strength of planets is very nice and good lesson to learners. Thanks for mentioning my name too. Congrats. With very best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani - adith kasinath.g.k @gro ups.com Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:54 PM QUIZ 17 RESULTS [4 Attachments] Dear Friends and Participants,Here is the Result: SHE GOT HER MALE BABY DURING RAHU- SAT- SUN DATE: 2/12/1992 3.47 PM CHENNAI when MOON IN SAT SIGN AND RAHU STAR. WINNER: MR. BIPS VASAWADA (BIPRID) : RAHU-SAT-VENUSHEARTY CONGRATULATION TO HIM! HATS OFF!! I ALSO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE RAHU DASA (Ramesh Mishra ji, Dhananjay Kekuda ji, VijayaMohan ji, KSV Ramani ji and Vgr Pawan ji ). I have attached herewith the Score Board with explanation.I have attached my analysis report also.I have attached the analysis report by Biprid.Kind Note: (DISCUSSION WITH BIPRID)I have also attached a file complilation of my discussion with Mr. Biprid .The reason behind is that: He is the only one who almost hits the Bulls Eye. He has not selected Mars Dasa. He chose Rahu Dasa and Sat Bukthi. In his report through through 4 step method he said, given in excel sheet, I could not find the reasons for his selection.hence I asked him to explain the reason behind it. Initially he said the mother got married in 85 (actullay around 84) hence the chances are after 86 in Rahu dasa. I was not convinced with that and again asked ti explain the reasons. He has given the reason why he has not selected the Mars Dasa. The Conversation is attached herewith.The reason behind my consistent query to him to find out his interpretation and reason behind it.His interpretation and his intuition as he said guided him perfectly.Many thanks and wishes for the participants for their great effort.AS I SAID IN THE QUIZ ITSELF CLEARLY "PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH OF THE SIGNIFICATORS" IN ALL ASPECTS.ALSO PLS GIVE IMPORTANCE TO NODES (As I ever say..MULTI FACED WEAPONS).If SAT is a strong signifiicator SAT's role will be there during the event as our Guruji KSK said.This is not an easy "Quiz". If I were one among you, I also might have failed.Hope we learn from each failures.Good Luck!With RegardsAdith Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010  Dear Adithji, Thanks for you further enlightenment to my analysis. I remeber that you explained your backward theory some time back (few months) in an another article. Unfortunately I missed to keep it preserved. Will you kindly send me a copy, if it is not inconvenient to you. Thanking you, K.S.V.Ramani - adith kasinath.g.k Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:49 AM Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Dear KSV Ramani ji,Nicely presented.In Quiz 17, SUN is a strong significator and has done his role where as VENUS did not.Both are aspected by Lord of 2 (Sat) which is good but shows the delay. But Venus lord of 5 is afflicted by SUN the lord of 8. SUN being conjoined with VENUS the lord of 5 , posited in 5 and aspected by Lord of 2 are some important things.MOreover both SUN and Venus are in the star of MArs who is in 5 closely conjoined with 6th cusp. and also signfiies 4 which is not good. but the sublord of each makes the difference.But Sun is again gets his strength through his Sublord SAT (who has no planet n its star and also aspects SUN) and the only signifcator of 2 whereas VEN is not so..Hence each planet's self strength (position, lordship, aspects, conjn.,), its star level signification and its sublevel and its star level significations are all to be considered. As well while selecting the Significators, we have to look into the following :i) The planet in the star of the occupant (A)ii) The occupant (B)iii) The planet in the sub of the occupant © (if there is no planet in the occupant (A)iv) The planet in the sub of the planet whose star lord is the occupant (D). It means "planets in the sub of "A" (backward theory) v) The planet in the star of the house lord ©vi) The House lord (E)v) The Nodes to be carefully studied.Each significators have to be studied well for their strength in all aspects.Sometimes this will be a tedious and time taking process.Thanks and RegardsAdith On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:21 PM, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani > wrote:  Dear Ramesh Mishraji, Your inquisitiveness to learn and apply the same in pracice is very much appreciable. This is what required to improve the knowledge to put theory into pracice. I hope by now you may be knowing the fundamental principle of K.P.system that the Planet is the souce; Constellation indicates the nature of the result and the sub is the deciding factor whether the matter is fruitful or not. For you to understand it clearly, let me give a you small example. A native of Aris Lagna. His 5th cusp Leo is the sign indicating his daughter. The sign lord is Sun strong for 5th is indicating about his daughter and also 5th is meant for celebration of auspicious event. (source) The constellation lord of the 5th cusp is significator for 6th, 11th and 3rd of the native's chart, this indicates daughter's marriage affair - 2, 7 and 11 of the daughter (treating 5th as Lagna of daughter). (nature of the result). Now important planet sub-lord signifies 12th and also strongly placed in 12. 12th is for heavy expenditure. What this 5th cusp indicates? The native is trying to celebrate his daughter's marriage for which he has to incur heavy expenditure. This will be during the period of DBA conjointly runs. According to fundamental principle stated above, 5th is source (about his daughter), Constellation shows marriage affair of his daughter (nature) and the sub indicates expenditure (the result of the nature indicated by source. Siilarly in the case of Quiz No.17, Planet is Mars (which is doubted by you). Source is correct 5th signifn, for child birth. Mars is in the constellation of his own with self strength (again indication of birth of child, 11th indicates fulfilment of desire. O.K. Now the important final deciding authority i.e. Sub of Mars. It is Mercury placed in 6th which is not good for birth of child. Merc. is in star and sub of Rah in 3 conjoined with Saturn. As you say, though Mars has his major period upto Decr.1985, but Mars is devoid of fruitful sub for him to give the event. Venus and Sun are no doubt strong for 5th. Now examine the strength of them as above. Sun is in 5th and in the star of Mars - O,K. He is in the sub of Satn. a significator of strong 2nd. But Sun is afflicted by the aspect of Saturn, who is in the star of Mercury in 6th. Take Venus another signfr, for 5th and S/L of 5th, a strong self strength planet. Venus is in the star of Mars in 5th O.K. But Venus is in the sub of Jupiter at 8th with self strength. Moreover, both Sun and Venus are aspected by Saturn and thus afflicted. On the contrary Saturn will get the power of both Venus and Sun due to his aspect on them. Saturn is strong significator for 2nd house. Next period is Rahu who is in 3 in conjunction with Saturn absorbing power of Saturn by himself. Rahu is in the sub of (final deciding authority) Moon, who is strong signfr. of 5th thro' his star lord Sun and also by his sub lord Venus. So Rahu is beneficial for giving child birth, Please note that 3rd signification is also required for the child to come out from mother's body. Since you say you are in learning process, I have elaborated the position of planets. I shall be much pleased if you could understand it properly. the DBA planets. Like this in the Quiz 17, you are right that Mars Dasa period is yet to go till Decr.1985. Here Planet is Mars under discussion. Mars is strong signfr. of 5th to give chiled. You further examine his star lord which is Mars. O.K. It is same. You further examine the sub lord of the planet Mars as per the fundamental prinicple explained above. It is Mercury strong significator for 6th. Mars the planet is also strong for 4th which is 12th to 5th for child birth (negative). So Mars period goes off without fruitful result. Next is Rahu to run period. Rahu is not with self strength. He is in 3rd Bhavam along with Saturn. Rahu is node which is given importance in KP. By substitution theory he is inserted as substitute for a planet with which he is connected either by conjunction, aspect or sub etc. Here he gets power of Saturn with whom he is conjoined. Saturn is strong for 2nd, 3rd, 5th by its aspect. 3rd signification is a must in the case of delivery, as it is 12th to 4th permanent residence. 3rd signification will enable the child to come out from its mother's body. Final deciding authority viz sub of the Planet Rahu, it is Moon who is in the star of Sun at 5 and sub of Venus also at 5 with self strength. So Moon is fully favourable for delivering the child. Since you say that you are under learning process. I have elaborated my explanation. If you could understand this minute details, I shall be happy. In short you have to study the strength of planet and study whether it is useful for the event or not in great care. Hope I have clarified your doubt. Pl.ack,receipt. With best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani --- Original Message ----- ramesh mishra Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:49 PM Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Dear Adith Ji and Biprid Ji, This explanation for approaching the time was insufficient for me to understand.As I told earlier I am learning this system I could not get the explanation to my satisfaction. My first query is that why Mars main could not give the event of childbirth when therewas 2 years left for Mars to go. Mars is the significator of 5th and 11th house. Mars is tthe starlord of Venus who is CSL of 2,5 and 11. It means Ma and Ve both of these planets are responsible for giving the result in its dasa.bhukti.antar. But none of these planet took part .Why? Can you please make me understand ? After getting the answer I may proceed for further query.Since I am in learning stage my question may not be liked by you but it is for me necessary to understand.So if you like to give the answers I shall be highly obliged to you. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra rcmastro--- On Thu, 28/1/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath > wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath >Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Date: Thursday, 28 January, 2010, 8:00 AM Dear KSV Ramani ji, Thanks . Keep participating in the future quiz. As I said, it is not an easy one. There are more possibility of wrong selection . If I were also one among the participants, I might have failed also. Becasue while analysis we have to be more concentrated and keen, since many cases may be of such in nature. Regards Adith On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:32 PM, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear Sri Adithji, Excellent way of presentation of your analysis. The importance given by you or finding the strength of planets is very nice and good lesson to learners. Thanks for mentioning my name too. Congrats. With very best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani - adith kasinath.g.k @gro ups.com Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:54 PM QUIZ 17 RESULTS [4 Attachments] Dear Friends and Participants,Here is the Result: SHE GOT HER MALE BABY DURING RAHU- SAT- SUN DATE: 2/12/1992 3.47 PM CHENNAI when MOON IN SAT SIGN AND RAHU STAR. WINNER: MR. BIPS VASAWADA (BIPRID) : RAHU-SAT-VENUSHEARTY CONGRATULATION TO HIM! HATS OFF!! I ALSO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE RAHU DASA (Ramesh Mishra ji, Dhananjay Kekuda ji, VijayaMohan ji, KSV Ramani ji and Vgr Pawan ji ). I have attached herewith the Score Board with explanation.I have attached my analysis report also.I have attached the analysis report by Biprid.Kind Note: (DISCUSSION WITH BIPRID)I have also attached a file complilation of my discussion with Mr. Biprid .The reason behind is that: He is the only one who almost hits the Bulls Eye. He has not selected Mars Dasa. He chose Rahu Dasa and Sat Bukthi. In his report through through 4 step method he said, given in excel sheet, I could not find the reasons for his selection.hence I asked him to explain the reason behind it. Initially he said the mother got married in 85 (actullay around 84) hence the chances are after 86 in Rahu dasa. I was not convinced with that and again asked ti explain the reasons. He has given the reason why he has not selected the Mars Dasa. The Conversation is attached herewith.The reason behind my consistent query to him to find out his interpretation and reason behind it.His interpretation and his intuition as he said guided him perfectly.Many thanks and wishes for the participants for their great effort.AS I SAID IN THE QUIZ ITSELF CLEARLY "PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH OF THE SIGNIFICATORS" IN ALL ASPECTS.ALSO PLS GIVE IMPORTANCE TO NODES (As I ever say..MULTI FACED WEAPONS).If SAT is a strong signifiicator SAT's role will be there during the event as our Guruji KSK said.This is not an easy "Quiz". If I were one among you, I also might have failed.Hope we learn from each failures.Good Luck!With RegardsAdith Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Dear Dr Rath Ji It is nice to read your mail, and welcome you are back on this platform. Thanks & Regards suresh awasthi--- On Sat, 1/30/10, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 4:39 AM Dear Ramaniji, The message is quite eduative. We need such explanations to learn. It's great. Thank you so much. With regards. Dr. Rath kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comFri, January 29, 2010 6:21:23 PMRe: QUIZ 17 RESULTS  Dear Ramesh Mishraji, Your inquisitiveness to learn and apply the same in pracice is very much appreciable. This is what required to improve the knowledge to put theory into pracice. I hope by now you may be knowing the fundamental principle of K.P.system that the Planet is the souce; Constellation indicates the nature of the result and the sub is the deciding factor whether the matter is fruitful or not. For you to understand it clearly, let me give a you small example. A native of Aris Lagna. His 5th cusp Leo is the sign indicating his daughter. The sign lord is Sun strong for 5th is indicating about his daughter and also 5th is meant for celebration of auspicious event. (source) The constellation lord of the 5th cusp is significator for 6th, 11th and 3rd of the native's chart, this indicates daughter's marriage affair - 2, 7 and 11 of the daughter (treating 5th as Lagna of daughter). (nature of the result). Now important planet sub-lord signifies 12th and also strongly placed in 12. 12th is for heavy expenditure. What this 5th cusp indicates? The native is trying to celebrate his daughter's marriage for which he has to incur heavy expenditure. This will be during the period of DBA conjointly runs. According to fundamental principle stated above, 5th is source (about his daughter), Constellation shows marriage affair of his daughter (nature) and the sub indicates expenditure (the result of the nature indicated by source. Siilarly in the case of Quiz No.17, Planet is Mars (which is doubted by you). Source is correct 5th signifn, for child birth. Mars is in the constellation of his own with self strength (again indication of birth of child, 11th indicates fulfilment of desire. O.K. Now the important final deciding authority i.e. Sub of Mars. It is Mercury placed in 6th which is not good for birth of child. Merc. is in star and sub of Rah in 3 conjoined with Saturn. As you say, though Mars has his major period upto Decr.1985, but Mars is devoid of fruitful sub for him to give the event. Venus and Sun are no doubt strong for 5th. Now examine the strength of them as above. Sun is in 5th and in the star of Mars - O,K. He is in the sub of Satn. a significator of strong 2nd. But Sun is afflicted by the aspect of Saturn, who is in the star of Mercury in 6th. Take Venus another signfr, for 5th and S/L of 5th, a strong self strength planet. Venus is in the star of Mars in 5th O.K. But Venus is in the sub of Jupiter at 8th with self strength. Moreover, both Sun and Venus are aspected by Saturn and thus afflicted. On the contrary Saturn will get the power of both Venus and Sun due to his aspect on them. Saturn is strong significator for 2nd house. Next period is Rahu who is in 3 in conjunction with Saturn absorbing power of Saturn by himself. Rahu is in the sub of (final deciding authority) Moon, who is strong signfr. of 5th thro' his star lord Sun and also by his sub lord Venus. So Rahu is beneficial for giving child birth, Please note that 3rd signification is also required for the child to come out from mother's body. Since you say you are in learning process, I have elaborated the position of planets. I shall be much pleased if you could understand it properly. the DBA planets. Like this in the Quiz 17, you are right that Mars Dasa period is yet to go till Decr.1985. Here Planet is Mars under discussion. Mars is strong signfr. of 5th to give chiled. You further examine his star lord which is Mars. O.K. It is same. You further examine the sub lord of the planet Mars as per the fundamental prinicple explained above. It is Mercury strong significator for 6th. Mars the planet is also strong for 4th which is 12th to 5th for child birth (negative). So Mars period goes off without fruitful result. Next is Rahu to run period. Rahu is not with self strength. He is in 3rd Bhavam along with Saturn. Rahu is node which is given importance in KP. By substitution theory he is inserted as substitute for a planet with which he is connected either by conjunction, aspect or sub etc. Here he gets power of Saturn with whom he is conjoined. Saturn is strong for 2nd, 3rd, 5th by its aspect. 3rd signification is a must in the case of delivery, as it is 12th to 4th permanent residence. 3rd signification will enable the child to come out from its mother's body. Final deciding authority viz sub of the Planet Rahu, it is Moon who is in the star of Sun at 5 and sub of Venus also at 5 with self strength. So Moon is fully favourable for delivering the child. Since you say that you are under learning process. I have elaborated my explanation. If you could understand this minute details, I shall be happy. In short you have to study the strength of planet and study whether it is useful for the event or not in great care. Hope I have clarified your doubt. Pl.ack,receipt. With best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani --- Original Message ----- ramesh mishra @gro ups.com Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:49 PM Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Dear Adith Ji and Biprid Ji, This explanation for approaching the time was insufficient for me to understand.As I told earlier I am learning this system I could not get the explanation to my satisfaction. My first query is that why Mars main could not give the event of childbirth when therewas 2 years left for Mars to go. Mars is the significator of 5th and 11th house. Mars is tthe starlord of Venus who is CSL of 2,5 and 11. It means Ma and Ve both of these planets are responsible for giving the result in its dasa.bhukti. antar. But none of these planet took part .Why? Can you please make me understand ? After getting the answer I may proceed for further query.Since I am in learning stage my question may not be liked by you but it is for me necessary to understand.So if you like to give the answers I shall be highly obliged to you. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra rcmastro--- On Thu, 28/1/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS@gro ups.comThursday, 28 January, 2010, 8:00 AM Dear KSV Ramani ji, Thanks . Keep participating in the future quiz. As I said, it is not an easy one. There are more possibility of wrong selection . If I were also one among the participants, I might have failed also. Becasue while analysis we have to be more concentrated and keen, since many cases may be of such in nature. Regards Adith On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:32 PM, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear Sri Adithji, Excellent way of presentation of your analysis. The importance given by you or finding the strength of planets is very nice and good lesson to learners. Thanks for mentioning my name too. Congrats. With very best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani - adith kasinath.g.k @gro ups.com Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:54 PM QUIZ 17 RESULTS [4 Attachments] Dear Friends and Participants,Here is the Result: SHE GOT HER MALE BABY DURING RAHU- SAT- SUN DATE: 2/12/1992 3.47 PM CHENNAI when MOON IN SAT SIGN AND RAHU STAR. WINNER: MR. BIPS VASAWADA (BIPRID) : RAHU-SAT-VENUSHEARTY CONGRATULATION TO HIM! HATS OFF!! I ALSO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE RAHU DASA (Ramesh Mishra ji, Dhananjay Kekuda ji, VijayaMohan ji, KSV Ramani ji and Vgr Pawan ji ). I have attached herewith the Score Board with explanation.I have attached my analysis report also.I have attached the analysis report by Biprid.Kind Note: (DISCUSSION WITH BIPRID)I have also attached a file complilation of my discussion with Mr. Biprid .The reason behind is that: He is the only one who almost hits the Bulls Eye. He has not selected Mars Dasa. He chose Rahu Dasa and Sat Bukthi. In his report through through 4 step method he said, given in excel sheet, I could not find the reasons for his selection.hence I asked him to explain the reason behind it. Initially he said the mother got married in 85 (actullay around 84) hence the chances are after 86 in Rahu dasa. I was not convinced with that and again asked ti explain the reasons. He has given the reason why he has not selected the Mars Dasa. The Conversation is attached herewith.The reason behind my consistent query to him to find out his interpretation and reason behind it.His interpretation and his intuition as he said guided him perfectly.Many thanks and wishes for the participants for their great effort.AS I SAID IN THE QUIZ ITSELF CLEARLY "PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH OF THE SIGNIFICATORS" IN ALL ASPECTS.ALSO PLS GIVE IMPORTANCE TO NODES (As I ever say..MULTI FACED WEAPONS).If SAT is a strong signifiicator SAT's role will be there during the event as our Guruji KSK said.This is not an easy "Quiz". If I were one among you, I also might have failed.Hope we learn from each failures.Good Luck!With RegardsAdith Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Dear Ramani Ji, A lot of thanks for this educative and fruitfull explanations. I will certainly go with the explanations in detail and then I shall approach you. I am now very busy so unable to spend time in this. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Sat, 30/1/10, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote: Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Date: Saturday, 30 January, 2010, 10:09 AM Dear Ramaniji, The message is quite eduative. We need such explanations to learn. It's great. Thank you so much. With regards. Dr. Rath kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comFri, January 29, 2010 6:21:23 PMRe: QUIZ 17 RESULTS  Dear Ramesh Mishraji, Your inquisitiveness to learn and apply the same in pracice is very much appreciable. This is what required to improve the knowledge to put theory into pracice. I hope by now you may be knowing the fundamental principle of K.P.system that the Planet is the souce; Constellation indicates the nature of the result and the sub is the deciding factor whether the matter is fruitful or not. For you to understand it clearly, let me give a you small example. A native of Aris Lagna. His 5th cusp Leo is the sign indicating his daughter. The sign lord is Sun strong for 5th is indicating about his daughter and also 5th is meant for celebration of auspicious event. (source) The constellation lord of the 5th cusp is significator for 6th, 11th and 3rd of the native's chart, this indicates daughter's marriage affair - 2, 7 and 11 of the daughter (treating 5th as Lagna of daughter). (nature of the result). Now important planet sub-lord signifies 12th and also strongly placed in 12. 12th is for heavy expenditure. What this 5th cusp indicates? The native is trying to celebrate his daughter's marriage for which he has to incur heavy expenditure. This will be during the period of DBA conjointly runs. According to fundamental principle stated above, 5th is source (about his daughter), Constellation shows marriage affair of his daughter (nature) and the sub indicates expenditure (the result of the nature indicated by source. Siilarly in the case of Quiz No.17, Planet is Mars (which is doubted by you). Source is correct 5th signifn, for child birth. Mars is in the constellation of his own with self strength (again indication of birth of child, 11th indicates fulfilment of desire. O.K. Now the important final deciding authority i.e. Sub of Mars. It is Mercury placed in 6th which is not good for birth of child. Merc. is in star and sub of Rah in 3 conjoined with Saturn. As you say, though Mars has his major period upto Decr.1985, but Mars is devoid of fruitful sub for him to give the event. Venus and Sun are no doubt strong for 5th. Now examine the strength of them as above. Sun is in 5th and in the star of Mars - O,K. He is in the sub of Satn. a significator of strong 2nd. But Sun is afflicted by the aspect of Saturn, who is in the star of Mercury in 6th. Take Venus another signfr, for 5th and S/L of 5th, a strong self strength planet. Venus is in the star of Mars in 5th O.K. But Venus is in the sub of Jupiter at 8th with self strength. Moreover, both Sun and Venus are aspected by Saturn and thus afflicted. On the contrary Saturn will get the power of both Venus and Sun due to his aspect on them. Saturn is strong significator for 2nd house. Next period is Rahu who is in 3 in conjunction with Saturn absorbing power of Saturn by himself. Rahu is in the sub of (final deciding authority) Moon, who is strong signfr. of 5th thro' his star lord Sun and also by his sub lord Venus. So Rahu is beneficial for giving child birth, Please note that 3rd signification is also required for the child to come out from mother's body. Since you say you are in learning process, I have elaborated the position of planets. I shall be much pleased if you could understand it properly. the DBA planets. Like this in the Quiz 17, you are right that Mars Dasa period is yet to go till Decr.1985. Here Planet is Mars under discussion. Mars is strong signfr. of 5th to give chiled. You further examine his star lord which is Mars. O.K. It is same. You further examine the sub lord of the planet Mars as per the fundamental prinicple explained above. It is Mercury strong significator for 6th. Mars the planet is also strong for 4th which is 12th to 5th for child birth (negative). So Mars period goes off without fruitful result. Next is Rahu to run period. Rahu is not with self strength. He is in 3rd Bhavam along with Saturn. Rahu is node which is given importance in KP. By substitution theory he is inserted as substitute for a planet with which he is connected either by conjunction, aspect or sub etc. Here he gets power of Saturn with whom he is conjoined. Saturn is strong for 2nd, 3rd, 5th by its aspect. 3rd signification is a must in the case of delivery, as it is 12th to 4th permanent residence. 3rd signification will enable the child to come out from its mother's body. Final deciding authority viz sub of the Planet Rahu, it is Moon who is in the star of Sun at 5 and sub of Venus also at 5 with self strength. So Moon is fully favourable for delivering the child. Since you say that you are under learning process. I have elaborated my explanation. If you could understand this minute details, I shall be happy. In short you have to study the strength of planet and study whether it is useful for the event or not in great care. Hope I have clarified your doubt. Pl.ack,receipt. With best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani --- Original Message ----- ramesh mishra @gro ups.com Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:49 PM Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Dear Adith Ji and Biprid Ji, This explanation for approaching the time was insufficient for me to understand.As I told earlier I am learning this system I could not get the explanation to my satisfaction. My first query is that why Mars main could not give the event of childbirth when therewas 2 years left for Mars to go. Mars is the significator of 5th and 11th house. Mars is tthe starlord of Venus who is CSL of 2,5 and 11. It means Ma and Ve both of these planets are responsible for giving the result in its dasa.bhukti. antar. But none of these planet took part .Why? Can you please make me understand ? After getting the answer I may proceed for further query.Since I am in learning stage my question may not be liked by you but it is for me necessary to understand.So if you like to give the answers I shall be highly obliged to you. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra rcmastro--- On Thu, 28/1/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS@gro ups.comThursday, 28 January, 2010, 8:00 AM Dear KSV Ramani ji, Thanks . Keep participating in the future quiz. As I said, it is not an easy one. There are more possibility of wrong selection . If I were also one among the participants, I might have failed also. Becasue while analysis we have to be more concentrated and keen, since many cases may be of such in nature. Regards Adith On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:32 PM, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear Sri Adithji, Excellent way of presentation of your analysis. The importance given by you or finding the strength of planets is very nice and good lesson to learners. Thanks for mentioning my name too. Congrats. With very best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani - adith kasinath.g.k @gro ups.com Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:54 PM QUIZ 17 RESULTS [4 Attachments] Dear Friends and Participants,Here is the Result: SHE GOT HER MALE BABY DURING RAHU- SAT- SUN DATE: 2/12/1992 3.47 PM CHENNAI when MOON IN SAT SIGN AND RAHU STAR. WINNER: MR. BIPS VASAWADA (BIPRID) : RAHU-SAT-VENUSHEARTY CONGRATULATION TO HIM! HATS OFF!! I ALSO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE RAHU DASA (Ramesh Mishra ji, Dhananjay Kekuda ji, VijayaMohan ji, KSV Ramani ji and Vgr Pawan ji ). I have attached herewith the Score Board with explanation.I have attached my analysis report also.I have attached the analysis report by Biprid.Kind Note: (DISCUSSION WITH BIPRID)I have also attached a file complilation of my discussion with Mr. Biprid .The reason behind is that: He is the only one who almost hits the Bulls Eye. He has not selected Mars Dasa. He chose Rahu Dasa and Sat Bukthi. In his report through through 4 step method he said, given in excel sheet, I could not find the reasons for his selection.hence I asked him to explain the reason behind it. Initially he said the mother got married in 85 (actullay around 84) hence the chances are after 86 in Rahu dasa. I was not convinced with that and again asked ti explain the reasons. He has given the reason why he has not selected the Mars Dasa. The Conversation is attached herewith.The reason behind my consistent query to him to find out his interpretation and reason behind it.His interpretation and his intuition as he said guided him perfectly.Many thanks and wishes for the participants for their great effort.AS I SAID IN THE QUIZ ITSELF CLEARLY "PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH OF THE SIGNIFICATORS" IN ALL ASPECTS.ALSO PLS GIVE IMPORTANCE TO NODES (As I ever say..MULTI FACED WEAPONS).If SAT is a strong signifiicator SAT's role will be there during the event as our Guruji KSK said.This is not an easy "Quiz". If I were one among you, I also might have failed.Hope we learn from each failures.Good Luck!With RegardsAdith Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Dear Ramani, Thanks for your reply. //(2) Venus, though with self strength is in the sub of Jupiter at 8th, besides his stong ownership of 10th, which are not fruitful for 2nd house. // If you say that the VEN is not fruitful for 2nd house then how she got married in VEN bukthi? GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil--- On Fri, 1/29/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani wrote: kadavasalramani <kadavasalramaniRe: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 1:22 AM  Dear Sri Senthil, Reg. Quiz No.17, your doubt about signification of 2nd house, Shri Adithji in the Quiz itself specifically requested us to find out the strength of each planet. No doubt the 2nd house is signified by Sun, Venus, Mars as star lord of 2nd cusp, and Saturn. If you assess the strength, you will find that (1) Sun, thro' his sub Saturn signifies 3. 2, 6,9. (2) Venus, though with self strength is in the sub of Jupiter at 8th, besides his stong ownership of 10th, which are not fruitful for 2nd house. (3) Mars though with self strength and star lord of 2nd cusp, is lord of 4th besides his sub being Mercury in 6th, which are not fruitul for 2nd cuso. (4) Lastly Saturn with self strength is lord of 2nd cusp, which is vacaant, and he is in his own sub again signifying 2nd house. So he is strongst significator. You may doubt why Sun in the sub of same Saturn signifying 2nd house cannot be taken for 2nd strongest significator. This is because Saturn aspects both Sun and Venus by his 3rd apect. By this aspect Saturn takes the powers of both Venus and Sun and Saturn is sole strong significator for 2nd house. This is correctly seen from the event happenned in Rahu Dasa Saturn Bhukthi and Sun Anthara. 2nd significator strong by itself Saturn is given preference as Bhukthi lord over the Sun who is subservient to Saturn. Hope this may clear your doubt. With best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani - Senthil @gro ups.com Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:37 PM Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Dear Adith, It is a very nice quiz. But however we are yet to find the other hidden RULES which decide the house matter. Have you checked the participants Ruling planets how far it helped the astrologer to fix the date of event etc. The RP at the time of my judgment place & a horary number helped me to fix the child birth lagna, 4th cusp/9th cusp planet connection, transit of sun to some extend correct except moon transit and DBA thus the end result was wrong. Below points are for discussion and not to criticize you (or) anybody. For Example, suppose planets signifying 2nd house, Here SAT, SUN & VEN (VEN is the 2nd CSL and there is no planet in VEN star and thus VEN becomes strongest significator which you have not considered at all, the reason is not clear) If we go always the strongest then all the house karaka represents by 2nd house (money, addition in family member for child/marriage etc etc) should be given by only ONE planet which may not happen except there is only ONE planet and nothing else connected to 2nd house. Suppose if we put the following questions how will you select the correct DBA (for past events)? 1. When she got married? (Selection of 2nd house significator) 2. When she got 1st Child birth? (Again selection of 2nd house significator) 3. When she got 2nd Child birth? (Again selection of 2nd house significator) (Assuming that the above events happened to a particular lady) Suppose incase of INDIA, in general the child birth happens after marriage only (some exceptional case let us ignore it) But if you consider foreign people charts (US etc) the childbirth may happen before marriage because of the local culture/living style etc. Here the logic will not work. Now how will you pick the significator? Members also can through some light on the above. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil--- On Wed, 1/27/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS@gro ups.comWednesday, January 27, 2010, 5:32 AM Adithji Pranam,thanks alot for exciting quiz , yes really enjoyed alot,....... .congratulations to Sri Biprid ji for his very close timing......very good exercise indeed and good explanation from you but a small doubt from me,As per your explanation if rahu derives power by being in the sub of "Sun" who in turn in the star of mars l/o 4,11 in 5 , then why moon and kethu are weak by being in the sub of venus (venus stars unoccupied may be thats why you stopped here not going to her star level), for the reason that she is 10 lord and 10 vacant. Isnt it mars is also strong for 4 then how rahu be fruitful then. Actually venus is sublord for 2,5,6,9,11 houses and occupant of 5th cusp which is 6th from 10th cusp, seems to be stronger than sun! can you kindly clarify in this regard, i am not pointing pls dnt take it otherwise i just want clarity thats all. Once again thanks alot for your wonderful quiz and very good presentation of results. my hearty congrats to all those participants. Guruji bless us All !!regardsPeace and Prosperity to All !!VGR--- On Wed, 27/1/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> QUIZ 17 RESULTS [4 Attachments]@gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 3:54 PM Dear Friends and Participants,Here is the Result: SHE GOT HER MALE BABY DURING RAHU- SAT- SUN DATE: 2/12/1992 3.47 PM CHENNAI when MOON IN SAT SIGN AND RAHU STAR. WINNER: MR. BIPS VASAWADA (BIPRID) : RAHU-SAT-VENUSHEARTY CONGRATULATION TO HIM! HATS OFF!! I ALSO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE RAHU DASA (Ramesh Mishra ji, Dhananjay Kekuda ji, VijayaMohan ji, KSV Ramani ji and Vgr Pawan ji ). I have attached herewith the Score Board with explanation.I have attached my analysis report also.I have attached the analysis report by Biprid.Kind Note: (DISCUSSION WITH BIPRID)I have also attached a file complilation of my discussion with Mr. Biprid .The reason behind is that: He is the only one who almost hits the Bulls Eye. He has not selected Mars Dasa. He chose Rahu Dasa and Sat Bukthi. In his report through through 4 step method he said, given in excel sheet, I could not find the reasons for his selection.hence I asked him to explain the reason behind it. Initially he said the mother got married in 85 (actullay around 84) hence the chances are after 86 in Rahu dasa. I was not convinced with that and again asked ti explain the reasons. He has given the reason why he has not selected the Mars Dasa. The Conversation is attached herewith.The reason behind my consistent query to him to find out his interpretation and reason behind it.His interpretation and his intuition as he said guided him perfectly.Many thanks and wishes for the participants for their great effort.AS I SAID IN THE QUIZ ITSELF CLEARLY "PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH OF THE SIGNIFICATORS" IN ALL ASPECTS.ALSO PLS GIVE IMPORTANCE TO NODES (As I ever say..MULTI FACED WEAPONS).If SAT is a strong signifiicator SAT's role will be there during the event as our Guruji KSK said.This is not an easy "Quiz". If I were one among you, I also might have failed.Hope we learn from each failures.Good Luck!With RegardsAdith The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 dear ramaniji, thanks for 2nd bhhava analysis,it was realy interesting how saturn became strong significator of second bhava.your experienced analysis will help us in understanding kp secrets. regards shrikant_jinral kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani Sent: Fri, 29 January, 2010 2:52:22 PMRe: QUIZ 17 RESULTS  Dear Sri Senthil, Reg. Quiz No.17, your doubt about signification of 2nd house, Shri Adithji in the Quiz itself specifically requested us to find out the strength of each planet. No doubt the 2nd house is signified by Sun, Venus, Mars as star lord of 2nd cusp, and Saturn. If you assess the strength, you will find that (1) Sun, thro' his sub Saturn signifies 3. 2, 6,9. (2) Venus, though with self strength is in the sub of Jupiter at 8th, besides his stong ownership of 10th, which are not fruitful for 2nd house. (3) Mars though with self strength and star lord of 2nd cusp, is lord of 4th besides his sub being Mercury in 6th, which are not fruitul for 2nd cuso. (4) Lastly Saturn with self strength is lord of 2nd cusp, which is vacaant, and he is in his own sub again signifying 2nd house. So he is strongst significator. You may doubt why Sun in the sub of same Saturn signifying 2nd house cannot be taken for 2nd strongest significator. This is because Saturn aspects both Sun and Venus by his 3rd apect. By this aspect Saturn takes the powers of both Venus and Sun and Saturn is sole strong significator for 2nd house. This is correctly seen from the event happenned in Rahu Dasa Saturn Bhukthi and Sun Anthara. 2nd significator strong by itself Saturn is given preference as Bhukthi lord over the Sun who is subservient to Saturn. Hope this may clear your doubt. With best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani - Senthil @gro ups.com Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:37 PM Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Dear Adith, It is a very nice quiz. But however we are yet to find the other hidden RULES which decide the house matter. Have you checked the participants Ruling planets how far it helped the astrologer to fix the date of event etc. The RP at the time of my judgment place & a horary number helped me to fix the child birth lagna, 4th cusp/9th cusp planet connection, transit of sun to some extend correct except moon transit and DBA thus the end result was wrong. Below points are for discussion and not to criticize you (or) anybody. For Example, suppose planets signifying 2nd house, Here SAT, SUN & VEN (VEN is the 2nd CSL and there is no planet in VEN star and thus VEN becomes strongest significator which you have not considered at all, the reason is not clear) If we go always the strongest then all the house karaka represents by 2nd house (money, addition in family member for child/marriage etc etc) should be given by only ONE planet which may not happen except there is only ONE planet and nothing else connected to 2nd house. Suppose if we put the following questions how will you select the correct DBA (for past events)? 1. When she got married? (Selection of 2nd house significator) 2. When she got 1st Child birth? (Again selection of 2nd house significator) 3. When she got 2nd Child birth? (Again selection of 2nd house significator) (Assuming that the above events happened to a particular lady) Suppose incase of INDIA, in general the child birth happens after marriage only (some exceptional case let us ignore it) But if you consider foreign people charts (US etc) the childbirth may happen before marriage because of the local culture/living style etc. Here the logic will not work. Now how will you pick the significator? Members also can through some light on the above. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil--- On Wed, 1/27/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS@gro ups.comWednesday, January 27, 2010, 5:32 AM Adithji Pranam,thanks alot for exciting quiz , yes really enjoyed alot,....... .congratulations to Sri Biprid ji for his very close timing......very good exercise indeed and good explanation from you but a small doubt from me,As per your explanation if rahu derives power by being in the sub of "Sun" who in turn in the star of mars l/o 4,11 in 5 , then why moon and kethu are weak by being in the sub of venus (venus stars unoccupied may be thats why you stopped here not going to her star level), for the reason that she is 10 lord and 10 vacant. Isnt it mars is also strong for 4 then how rahu be fruitful then. Actually venus is sublord for 2,5,6,9,11 houses and occupant of 5th cusp which is 6th from 10th cusp, seems to be stronger than sun! can you kindly clarify in this regard, i am not pointing pls dnt take it otherwise i just want clarity thats all. Once again thanks alot for your wonderful quiz and very good presentation of results. my hearty congrats to all those participants. Guruji bless us All !!regardsPeace and Prosperity to All !!VGR--- On Wed, 27/1/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> QUIZ 17 RESULTS [4 Attachments]@gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 3:54 PM Dear Friends and Participants,Here is the Result: SHE GOT HER MALE BABY DURING RAHU- SAT- SUN DATE: 2/12/1992 3.47 PM CHENNAI when MOON IN SAT SIGN AND RAHU STAR. WINNER: MR. BIPS VASAWADA (BIPRID) : RAHU-SAT-VENUSHEARTY CONGRATULATION TO HIM! HATS OFF!! I ALSO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE RAHU DASA (Ramesh Mishra ji, Dhananjay Kekuda ji, VijayaMohan ji, KSV Ramani ji and Vgr Pawan ji ). I have attached herewith the Score Board with explanation.I have attached my analysis report also.I have attached the analysis report by Biprid.Kind Note: (DISCUSSION WITH BIPRID)I have also attached a file complilation of my discussion with Mr. Biprid .The reason behind is that: He is the only one who almost hits the Bulls Eye. He has not selected Mars Dasa. He chose Rahu Dasa and Sat Bukthi. In his report through through 4 step method he said, given in excel sheet, I could not find the reasons for his selection.hence I asked him to explain the reason behind it. Initially he said the mother got married in 85 (actullay around 84) hence the chances are after 86 in Rahu dasa. I was not convinced with that and again asked ti explain the reasons. He has given the reason why he has not selected the Mars Dasa. The Conversation is attached herewith.The reason behind my consistent query to him to find out his interpretation and reason behind it.His interpretation and his intuition as he said guided him perfectly.Many thanks and wishes for the participants for their great effort.AS I SAID IN THE QUIZ ITSELF CLEARLY "PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH OF THE SIGNIFICATORS" IN ALL ASPECTS.ALSO PLS GIVE IMPORTANCE TO NODES (As I ever say..MULTI FACED WEAPONS).If SAT is a strong signifiicator SAT's role will be there during the event as our Guruji KSK said.This is not an easy "Quiz". If I were one among you, I also might have failed.Hope we learn from each failures.Good Luck!With RegardsAdith The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010  Dear Sri Senthil, Nice question. In my oinion, the following status of Venus could have activated the marriage time in Venus Bhukthi. (1) Venus is karaka for marriage, which has to come in any way in DBA atleast as Day lord. (2) Venus' sub lord Jupiter though in 8th is in the sub of Rahu at 3 which is conjoined with Saturn, strong lord of 2nd which is required in the marriage group of 2,7,11. Moreover Venus is strongly aspected by Saturn. sole significator of 2nd Bhava, which is vacnt. Venus thro' her sub could have got 2nd signfn. thro' her sublord Jupiter. (3) As you are aware that a planet first will give the result of its star lord. Venus is in the star of Mars who is strong significator of 11th as the house 11 is vacant and Venus too aspects 11th. Hence Venus has to give the result of 11th though not 7th the main signification. (4) Approximately the marriage of the lady in question was in the middle of 1984 (of her 16th year of marriage). If you could see the Ephimery of that time, you may find Venus os the only planet transiting on Mars star, which could have made Venus to enter as Bhukthi lord. (5) In my opinion, we cannot ignore Karakatwa of a planet, even if it is not a strong signfr. of 2, 7, 11. In this case, Venus is also sub lord for the 7th lord Moon. Moon has its role for any event as star lord of the day. Such Moon has the sub of Venus. So Venus plays some sort of role on all the events. If the quiz master has any other valid reson, I shall be glad to to invite him to appise the reason how Bhukthi lord was Venus at the time of marriage. With best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani - Senthil Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:11 PM Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Dear Ramani, Thanks for your reply. //(2) Venus, though with self strength is in the sub of Jupiter at 8th, besides his stong ownership of 10th, which are not fruitful for 2nd house. // If you say that the VEN is not fruitful for 2nd house then how she got married in VEN bukthi? GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil--- On Fri, 1/29/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani > wrote: kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani >Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 1:22 AM  Dear Sri Senthil, Reg. Quiz No.17, your doubt about signification of 2nd house, Shri Adithji in the Quiz itself specifically requested us to find out the strength of each planet. No doubt the 2nd house is signified by Sun, Venus, Mars as star lord of 2nd cusp, and Saturn. If you assess the strength, you will find that (1) Sun, thro' his sub Saturn signifies 3. 2, 6,9. (2) Venus, though with self strength is in the sub of Jupiter at 8th, besides his stong ownership of 10th, which are not fruitful for 2nd house. (3) Mars though with self strength and star lord of 2nd cusp, is lord of 4th besides his sub being Mercury in 6th, which are not fruitul for 2nd cuso. (4) Lastly Saturn with self strength is lord of 2nd cusp, which is vacaant, and he is in his own sub again signifying 2nd house. So he is strongst significator. You may doubt why Sun in the sub of same Saturn signifying 2nd house cannot be taken for 2nd strongest significator. This is because Saturn aspects both Sun and Venus by his 3rd apect. By this aspect Saturn takes the powers of both Venus and Sun and Saturn is sole strong significator for 2nd house. This is correctly seen from the event happenned in Rahu Dasa Saturn Bhukthi and Sun Anthara. 2nd significator strong by itself Saturn is given preference as Bhukthi lord over the Sun who is subservient to Saturn. Hope this may clear your doubt. With best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani - Senthil @gro ups.com Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:37 PM Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Dear Adith, It is a very nice quiz. But however we are yet to find the other hidden RULES which decide the house matter. Have you checked the participants Ruling planets how far it helped the astrologer to fix the date of event etc. The RP at the time of my judgment place & a horary number helped me to fix the child birth lagna, 4th cusp/9th cusp planet connection, transit of sun to some extend correct except moon transit and DBA thus the end result was wrong. Below points are for discussion and not to criticize you (or) anybody. For Example, suppose planets signifying 2nd house, Here SAT, SUN & VEN (VEN is the 2nd CSL and there is no planet in VEN star and thus VEN becomes strongest significator which you have not considered at all, the reason is not clear) If we go always the strongest then all the house karaka represents by 2nd house (money, addition in family member for child/marriage etc etc) should be given by only ONE planet which may not happen except there is only ONE planet and nothing else connected to 2nd house. Suppose if we put the following questions how will you select the correct DBA (for past events)? 1. When she got married? (Selection of 2nd house significator) 2. When she got 1st Child birth? (Again selection of 2nd house significator) 3. When she got 2nd Child birth? (Again selection of 2nd house significator) (Assuming that the above events happened to a particular lady) Suppose incase of INDIA, in general the child birth happens after marriage only (some exceptional case let us ignore it) But if you consider foreign people charts (US etc) the childbirth may happen before marriage because of the local culture/living style etc. Here the logic will not work. Now how will you pick the significator? Members also can through some light on the above. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil--- On Wed, 1/27/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS@gro ups.comWednesday, January 27, 2010, 5:32 AM Adithji Pranam,thanks alot for exciting quiz , yes really enjoyed alot,....... .congratulations to Sri Biprid ji for his very close timing......very good exercise indeed and good explanation from you but a small doubt from me,As per your explanation if rahu derives power by being in the sub of "Sun" who in turn in the star of mars l/o 4,11 in 5 , then why moon and kethu are weak by being in the sub of venus (venus stars unoccupied may be thats why you stopped here not going to her star level), for the reason that she is 10 lord and 10 vacant. Isnt it mars is also strong for 4 then how rahu be fruitful then. Actually venus is sublord for 2,5,6,9,11 houses and occupant of 5th cusp which is 6th from 10th cusp, seems to be stronger than sun! can you kindly clarify in this regard, i am not pointing pls dnt take it otherwise i just want clarity thats all. Once again thanks alot for your wonderful quiz and very good presentation of results. my hearty congrats to all those participants. Guruji bless us All !!regardsPeace and Prosperity to All !!VGR--- On Wed, 27/1/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> QUIZ 17 RESULTS [4 Attachments]@gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 3:54 PM Dear Friends and Participants,Here is the Result: SHE GOT HER MALE BABY DURING RAHU- SAT- SUN DATE: 2/12/1992 3.47 PM CHENNAI when MOON IN SAT SIGN AND RAHU STAR. WINNER: MR. BIPS VASAWADA (BIPRID) : RAHU-SAT-VENUSHEARTY CONGRATULATION TO HIM! HATS OFF!! I ALSO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE RAHU DASA (Ramesh Mishra ji, Dhananjay Kekuda ji, VijayaMohan ji, KSV Ramani ji and Vgr Pawan ji ). I have attached herewith the Score Board with explanation.I have attached my analysis report also.I have attached the analysis report by Biprid.Kind Note: (DISCUSSION WITH BIPRID)I have also attached a file complilation of my discussion with Mr. Biprid .The reason behind is that: He is the only one who almost hits the Bulls Eye. He has not selected Mars Dasa. He chose Rahu Dasa and Sat Bukthi. In his report through through 4 step method he said, given in excel sheet, I could not find the reasons for his selection.hence I asked him to explain the reason behind it. Initially he said the mother got married in 85 (actullay around 84) hence the chances are after 86 in Rahu dasa. I was not convinced with that and again asked ti explain the reasons. He has given the reason why he has not selected the Mars Dasa. The Conversation is attached herewith.The reason behind my consistent query to him to find out his interpretation and reason behind it.His interpretation and his intuition as he said guided him perfectly.Many thanks and wishes for the participants for their great effort.AS I SAID IN THE QUIZ ITSELF CLEARLY "PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH OF THE SIGNIFICATORS" IN ALL ASPECTS.ALSO PLS GIVE IMPORTANCE TO NODES (As I ever say..MULTI FACED WEAPONS).If SAT is a strong signifiicator SAT's role will be there during the event as our Guruji KSK said.This is not an easy "Quiz". If I were one among you, I also might have failed.Hope we learn from each failures.Good Luck!With RegardsAdith The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Dear KSV Ramani Ji and Senthil ji,Reg: The Marriage period of that female:I like to update the following.When I checked the possibility of mariiage significations, I found Ketu and Venus are significators and Ketu is stronger than VENUS , I thought of reconfirming the period of marraige with the known sources again.  I just called and cross checked the reliable sources (mother and the relatives and as I have some personal misunderstanding with that family, I could not ask her directly).Actually she got married in 1983 (month is not sure) at the age of 15. The period is KETU and not VENUS (prior to VENUS itself she got married)YOu may wonder if this is possible at the age of 15 !!!You can believe since she is none other than my own sister. But I have no contacts with her though she is nearer to me. but I have her family birth charts with me. KETU-----------    MOON-----------VENUS (NP)---------MARS (9), 4, 6                             1,7                5,5,10                     5,11,4 (no planet in 4).  (l/o 11Mars aspects)                           No planet in 10          Conjn. With 6th cusp                                  No planet in Venus star      ASPECTS MOON                                  So 10 is strongly signified       the lord of 7 The above was given to the point of progeny. If we look into the case of Marriage, we can consider the favorable signficators as 2,5,7,11 and 8.Ketu is in the star of Moon the lord of 7 and no planet in 7. So Ketu through Starlord wise it signies 7.Ketu is aspected by Mars (the lord of 11) and also Sat (the lord of 2)Ketu is in the sub of Venus(signficator of 5 and 10). 10 is not good and 5 is good. It is in conjunction with Sun the lord of 8 which is good for marriage. Both are aspected by Sat (the lord of 2) Ketu in the sub of Venus who is in the star of Mars the lord of 4,11 in 5 which is good, But its conjunction with 6th cusp is not good.But Mars the lord of 11 aspects the lord of 7 Moon. This is good.hence Ketu in the star of Moon (7) who aspects 7 also and Ketu in the sub of Venus who is in the star of Mars (the lord of 11 aspects the Moon again). So 7,11,2 are strongly combination also present apart from 6,10,4 signfificators which are not favorable. Hence Ketu is capable of giving marriage may be with some disturbances or obstacles.VENUS: the lord of 5 in 5 and also signfies 10 which is not good.Venus is conjoine d with Lord of 8 SUN which is good. Venus is aspects by lord of 2 Sat whoic is good.Venus is in the star of Mars the lord of 11 in 5 but with close conjunction with 6. But Mars aspects Moon the lord of 7.Venus in the sub of Jupiter the string signficator of 8,12. and in the star of Ketu (which we decreibed as above) Jupiter aspects the 2nd house alsoBut when looked both ketu and Venus, Ketu being node and also preceeding Venus was capable of giving marriage.If you look at my Backward theory also:STEP 1:The lord of 7 is Moon. Ketu is in its star is a signficator. Its strength upto sublevel is good. STEP 2:The the lord of 11 is Mars and one of the planet in 5 is also Mars.The planet in Mars star is Venus.The planet in the sub of Venus is again KetuAnd Ketu is strongly signfies 7 through its star Moon also SO step 1 and 2, strongly favors KETU.Thanks and RegardsAdithOn Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 6:30 AM, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani wrote:   Dear Sri Senthil,  Nice question. In my oinion, the following status of Venus could have activated the marriage time in Venus Bhukthi.  (1) Venus is karaka for marriage, which has to come in any way in DBA atleast as Day lord.  (2) Venus' sub lord Jupiter though in 8th is in the sub of Rahu at 3 which is conjoined with Saturn, strong lord of 2nd which is required in the marriage group of 2,7,11. Moreover Venus is strongly aspected by Saturn. sole significator of 2nd Bhava, which is vacnt. Venus thro' her sub could have got 2nd signfn. thro' her sublord Jupiter.  (3) As you are aware that a planet first will give the result of its star lord. Venus is in the star of Mars who is strong significator of 11th as the house 11 is vacant and Venus too aspects 11th. Hence Venus has to give the result of 11th though not 7th the main signification.  (4) Approximately the marriage of the lady in question was in the middle of 1984 (of her 16th year of marriage). If you could see the Ephimery of that time, you may find Venus os the only planet transiting on Mars star, which could have made Venus to enter as Bhukthi lord.  (5) In my opinion, we cannot ignore Karakatwa of a planet, even if it is not a strong signfr. of 2, 7, 11. In this case, Venus is also sub lord for the 7th lord Moon. Moon has its role for any event as star lord of the day. Such Moon has the sub of Venus. So Venus plays some sort of role on all the events.  If the quiz master has any other valid reson, I shall be glad to to invite him to appise the reason how Bhukthi lord was Venus at the time of marriage.  With best wishes,  K.S.V.Ramani - Senthil Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:11 PM Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS  Dear Ramani,  Thanks for your reply.  //(2) Venus, though with self strength is in the sub of Jupiter at 8th, besides his stong ownership of 10th, which are not fruitful for 2nd house. //  If you say that the VEN is not fruitful for 2nd house then how she got married in VEN bukthi?  GOOD LUCK!!  D.Senthil--- On Fri, 1/29/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani wrote: kadavasalramani <kadavasalramaniRe: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 1:22 AM   Dear Sri Senthil,  Reg. Quiz No.17, your doubt about signification of 2nd house, Shri Adithji in the Quiz itself specifically requested us to find out the strength of each planet. No doubt the 2nd house is signified by Sun, Venus, Mars as star lord of 2nd cusp, and Saturn. If you assess the strength, you will find that (1) Sun, thro' his sub Saturn signifies 3. 2, 6,9. (2) Venus, though with self strength is in the sub of Jupiter at 8th, besides his stong ownership of 10th, which are not fruitful for 2nd house. (3) Mars though with self strength and star lord of 2nd cusp, is lord of 4th besides his sub being Mercury in 6th, which are not fruitul for 2nd cuso.  (4) Lastly Saturn with self strength is lord of 2nd cusp, which is vacaant, and he is in his own sub again signifying 2nd house. So he is strongst significator. You may doubt why Sun in the sub of same Saturn signifying 2nd house cannot be taken for 2nd strongest significator. This is because Saturn aspects both Sun and Venus by his 3rd apect. By this aspect Saturn takes the powers of both Venus and Sun and Saturn is sole strong significator for 2nd house. This is correctly seen from the event happenned in Rahu Dasa Saturn Bhukthi and Sun Anthara. 2nd significator strong by itself Saturn is given preference as Bhukthi lord over the Sun who is subservient to Saturn. Hope this may clear your doubt.  With best wishes,  K.S.V.Ramani - Senthil @gro ups.com Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:37 PM Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS  Dear Adith, It is a very nice quiz. But however we are yet to find the other hidden RULES which decide the house matter. Have you checked the participants Ruling planets how far it helped the astrologer to fix the date of event etc. The RP at the time of my judgment place & a horary number helped me to fix the child birth lagna, 4th cusp/9th cusp planet connection, transit of sun to some extend correct except moon transit and DBA thus the end result was wrong. Below points are for discussion and not to criticize you (or) anybody. For Example, suppose planets signifying 2nd house, Here SAT, SUN & VEN (VEN is the 2nd CSL and there is no planet in VEN star and thus VEN becomes strongest significator which you have not considered at all, the reason is not clear) If we go always the strongest then all the house karaka represents by 2nd house (money, addition in family member for child/marriage etc etc) should be given by only ONE planet which may not happen except there is only ONE planet and nothing else connected to 2nd house. Suppose if we put the following questions how will you select the correct DBA (for past events)? 1. When she got married? (Selection of 2nd house significator) 2. When she got 1st Child birth? (Again selection of 2nd house significator) 3. When she got 2nd Child birth? (Again selection of 2nd house significator) (Assuming that the above events happened to a particular lady) Suppose incase of INDIA, in general the child birth happens after marriage only (some exceptional case let us ignore it) But if you consider foreign people charts (US etc) the childbirth may happen before marriage because of the local culture/living style etc. Here the logic will not work. Now how will you pick the significator? Members also can through some light on the above. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil--- On Wed, 1/27/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS@gro ups.comWednesday, January 27, 2010, 5:32 AM  Adithji Pranam,thanks alot for exciting quiz , yes really enjoyed alot,....... .congratulations to Sri Biprid ji for his very close timing......very good exercise indeed and good explanation from you but a small doubt from me,As per your explanation if rahu derives power by being in the sub of " Sun " who in turn in the star of mars l/o 4,11 in 5 , then why moon and kethu are weak by being in the sub of venus (venus stars unoccupied may be thats why you stopped here not going to her star level), for the reason that she is 10 lord and 10 vacant. Isnt it mars is also strong for 4 then how rahu be fruitful then. Actually venus is sublord for 2,5,6,9,11 houses and occupant of 5th cusp which is 6th from 10th cusp, seems to be stronger than sun! can you kindly clarify in this regard, i am not pointing pls dnt take it otherwise i just want clarity thats all. Once again thanks alot for your wonderful quiz and very good presentation of results. my hearty congrats to all those participants. Guruji bless us All !!regardsPeace and Prosperity to All !!VGR--- On Wed, 27/1/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> QUIZ 17 RESULTS [4 Attachments]@gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 3:54 PM  Dear Friends and Participants,Here is the Result: SHE GOT HER MALE BABY DURING  RAHU- SAT- SUN DATE: 2/12/1992 3.47 PM CHENNAI when MOON IN SAT SIGN AND RAHU STAR.  WINNER: MR. BIPS VASAWADA (BIPRID) : RAHU-SAT-VENUSHEARTY CONGRATULATION TO HIM! HATS OFF!! I ALSO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE RAHU DASA (Ramesh Mishra ji, Dhananjay Kekuda ji, VijayaMohan ji, KSV Ramani ji and Vgr Pawan ji ). I have attached herewith the Score Board with explanation.I have attached my analysis report also.I have attached the analysis report by Biprid.Kind Note: (DISCUSSION WITH BIPRID)I have also attached a file complilation of my discussion with Mr. Biprid .The reason behind is that: He is the only one who almost hits the Bulls Eye. He has not selected Mars Dasa. He chose Rahu Dasa and Sat Bukthi. In his report through through 4 step method he said, given in excel sheet, I could not find the reasons for his selection.hence I asked him to explain the reason behind it. Initially he said the mother got married in 85 (actullay around 84) hence the chances are after 86 in Rahu dasa. I was not convinced with that and again asked ti explain the reasons. He has given the reason why he has not selected the Mars Dasa. The Conversation is attached herewith.The reason behind my consistent query to him to find out his interpretation and reason behind it.His interpretation and his intuition as he said guided him perfectly.Many thanks and wishes for the participants for their great effort.AS I SAID IN THE QUIZ ITSELF CLEARLY " PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH OF THE SIGNIFICATORS " IN ALL ASPECTS.ALSO PLS GIVE IMPORTANCE TO NODES (As I ever say..MULTI FACED WEAPONS).If SAT is a strong signifiicator SAT's role will be there during the event as our Guruji KSK said.This is not an easy " Quiz " . If I were one among you, I also might have failed.Hope we learn from each failures.Good Luck!With RegardsAdith The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Dear Ramani, In general, if you see the DBA for corresponding events in a chart some will happen in A(dasa)-A(bukthi)-A(anthra) A(dasa)-A(bukthi)-B(anthra) A(dasa)-B(bukthi)-C(anthra) We know very well that the selection of the correct DBA is not the simple exercise to pinpoint the events.Kindly take all the queries are put here to widen our knowledge and not to criticize you or any body. Even if you ask me also it is very difficult to answer and thanks for you reply. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil --- On Sat, 1/30/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani wrote: kadavasalramani <kadavasalramaniRe: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 5:00 PM  Dear Sri Senthil, Nice question. In my oinion, the following status of Venus could have activated the marriage time in Venus Bhukthi. (1) Venus is karaka for marriage, which has to come in any way in DBA atleast as Day lord. (2) Venus' sub lord Jupiter though in 8th is in the sub of Rahu at 3 which is conjoined with Saturn, strong lord of 2nd which is required in the marriage group of 2,7,11. Moreover Venus is strongly aspected by Saturn. sole significator of 2nd Bhava, which is vacnt. Venus thro' her sub could have got 2nd signfn. thro' her sublord Jupiter. (3) As you are aware that a planet first will give the result of its star lord. Venus is in the star of Mars who is strong significator of 11th as the house 11 is vacant and Venus too aspects 11th. Hence Venus has to give the result of 11th though not 7th the main signification. (4) Approximately the marriage of the lady in question was in the middle of 1984 (of her 16th year of marriage). If you could see the Ephimery of that time, you may find Venus os the only planet transiting on Mars star, which could have made Venus to enter as Bhukthi lord. (5) In my opinion, we cannot ignore Karakatwa of a planet, even if it is not a strong signfr. of 2, 7, 11. In this case, Venus is also sub lord for the 7th lord Moon. Moon has its role for any event as star lord of the day. Such Moon has the sub of Venus. So Venus plays some sort of role on all the events. If the quiz master has any other valid reson, I shall be glad to to invite him to appise the reason how Bhukthi lord was Venus at the time of marriage. With best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani - Senthil @gro ups.com Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:11 PM Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Dear Ramani, Thanks for your reply. //(2) Venus, though with self strength is in the sub of Jupiter at 8th, besides his stong ownership of 10th, which are not fruitful for 2nd house. // If you say that the VEN is not fruitful for 2nd house then how she got married in VEN bukthi? GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil--- On Fri, 1/29/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS@gro ups.comFriday, January 29, 2010, 1:22 AM  Dear Sri Senthil, Reg. Quiz No.17, your doubt about signification of 2nd house, Shri Adithji in the Quiz itself specifically requested us to find out the strength of each planet. No doubt the 2nd house is signified by Sun, Venus, Mars as star lord of 2nd cusp, and Saturn. If you assess the strength, you will find that (1) Sun, thro' his sub Saturn signifies 3. 2, 6,9. (2) Venus, though with self strength is in the sub of Jupiter at 8th, besides his stong ownership of 10th, which are not fruitful for 2nd house. (3) Mars though with self strength and star lord of 2nd cusp, is lord of 4th besides his sub being Mercury in 6th, which are not fruitul for 2nd cuso. (4) Lastly Saturn with self strength is lord of 2nd cusp, which is vacaant, and he is in his own sub again signifying 2nd house. So he is strongst significator. You may doubt why Sun in the sub of same Saturn signifying 2nd house cannot be taken for 2nd strongest significator. This is because Saturn aspects both Sun and Venus by his 3rd apect. By this aspect Saturn takes the powers of both Venus and Sun and Saturn is sole strong significator for 2nd house. This is correctly seen from the event happenned in Rahu Dasa Saturn Bhukthi and Sun Anthara. 2nd significator strong by itself Saturn is given preference as Bhukthi lord over the Sun who is subservient to Saturn. Hope this may clear your doubt. With best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani - Senthil @gro ups.com Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:37 PM Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Dear Adith, It is a very nice quiz. But however we are yet to find the other hidden RULES which decide the house matter. Have you checked the participants Ruling planets how far it helped the astrologer to fix the date of event etc. The RP at the time of my judgment place & a horary number helped me to fix the child birth lagna, 4th cusp/9th cusp planet connection, transit of sun to some extend correct except moon transit and DBA thus the end result was wrong. Below points are for discussion and not to criticize you (or) anybody. For Example, suppose planets signifying 2nd house, Here SAT, SUN & VEN (VEN is the 2nd CSL and there is no planet in VEN star and thus VEN becomes strongest significator which you have not considered at all, the reason is not clear) If we go always the strongest then all the house karaka represents by 2nd house (money, addition in family member for child/marriage etc etc) should be given by only ONE planet which may not happen except there is only ONE planet and nothing else connected to 2nd house. Suppose if we put the following questions how will you select the correct DBA (for past events)? 1. When she got married? (Selection of 2nd house significator) 2. When she got 1st Child birth? (Again selection of 2nd house significator) 3. When she got 2nd Child birth? (Again selection of 2nd house significator) (Assuming that the above events happened to a particular lady) Suppose incase of INDIA, in general the child birth happens after marriage only (some exceptional case let us ignore it) But if you consider foreign people charts (US etc) the childbirth may happen before marriage because of the local culture/living style etc. Here the logic will not work. Now how will you pick the significator? Members also can through some light on the above. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil--- On Wed, 1/27/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS@gro ups.comWednesday, January 27, 2010, 5:32 AM Adithji Pranam,thanks alot for exciting quiz , yes really enjoyed alot,....... .congratulations to Sri Biprid ji for his very close timing......very good exercise indeed and good explanation from you but a small doubt from me,As per your explanation if rahu derives power by being in the sub of "Sun" who in turn in the star of mars l/o 4,11 in 5 , then why moon and kethu are weak by being in the sub of venus (venus stars unoccupied may be thats why you stopped here not going to her star level), for the reason that she is 10 lord and 10 vacant. Isnt it mars is also strong for 4 then how rahu be fruitful then. Actually venus is sublord for 2,5,6,9,11 houses and occupant of 5th cusp which is 6th from 10th cusp, seems to be stronger than sun! can you kindly clarify in this regard, i am not pointing pls dnt take it otherwise i just want clarity thats all. Once again thanks alot for your wonderful quiz and very good presentation of results. my hearty congrats to all those participants. Guruji bless us All !!regardsPeace and Prosperity to All !!VGR--- On Wed, 27/1/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> QUIZ 17 RESULTS [4 Attachments]@gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 3:54 PM Dear Friends and Participants,Here is the Result: SHE GOT HER MALE BABY DURING RAHU- SAT- SUN DATE: 2/12/1992 3.47 PM CHENNAI when MOON IN SAT SIGN AND RAHU STAR. WINNER: MR. BIPS VASAWADA (BIPRID) : RAHU-SAT-VENUSHEARTY CONGRATULATION TO HIM! HATS OFF!! I ALSO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE RAHU DASA (Ramesh Mishra ji, Dhananjay Kekuda ji, VijayaMohan ji, KSV Ramani ji and Vgr Pawan ji ). I have attached herewith the Score Board with explanation.I have attached my analysis report also.I have attached the analysis report by Biprid.Kind Note: (DISCUSSION WITH BIPRID)I have also attached a file complilation of my discussion with Mr. Biprid .The reason behind is that: He is the only one who almost hits the Bulls Eye. He has not selected Mars Dasa. He chose Rahu Dasa and Sat Bukthi. In his report through through 4 step method he said, given in excel sheet, I could not find the reasons for his selection.hence I asked him to explain the reason behind it. Initially he said the mother got married in 85 (actullay around 84) hence the chances are after 86 in Rahu dasa. I was not convinced with that and again asked ti explain the reasons. He has given the reason why he has not selected the Mars Dasa. The Conversation is attached herewith.The reason behind my consistent query to him to find out his interpretation and reason behind it.His interpretation and his intuition as he said guided him perfectly.Many thanks and wishes for the participants for their great effort.AS I SAID IN THE QUIZ ITSELF CLEARLY "PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH OF THE SIGNIFICATORS" IN ALL ASPECTS.ALSO PLS GIVE IMPORTANCE TO NODES (As I ever say..MULTI FACED WEAPONS).If SAT is a strong signifiicator SAT's role will be there during the event as our Guruji KSK said.This is not an easy "Quiz". If I were one among you, I also might have failed.Hope we learn from each failures.Good Luck!With RegardsAdith The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Dear Ramani Ji, Your explanation to my doubt is appreciable and knlwledgeable. A lot of thanks. . Now let me explain it in my own words so that you can point me out if I have understood it wrong. I shall first talk about the role of MD planet .The period of MD lord is for long duration so it is very important to know about the MD lord to come forward for giving the result. In this case 5th is the house under consideration for child birth. For child birth we analyse the combined significations of 2,5 and 11.All these three houses are in kendra to one another.Why ? Because 2 is kutumb sthaan and after the birth child becomes the member of kutumb and 11th is fulfilment of desire. It is just opposite house of 5th. Now my question was why Mars lord could not give the event during its period ? For this we have to see the significations of MARS.As you said Planet is the source. So we have to see whether Mars is the source planet for 5th is or not. In the given chart Mars is l/o 4th and 11th and occupy 5th so it should be a strong significator. Mars is in own star also. But problem with the Mars is that it is conjoined with 6th lord Me. Ma is in rasi sandhi. Ma is in dead avastha. Ma is in sub sub of Ju. Ju is in 8th house. Therefore it was found that Me and Ju both these two planets are in 6th and 8th house, unable to help Mars. That is why Mars could not give the event in its MD period. Second reason we have to find out the delay in giving progeny.There might be delay also in giving the birth of the child. As it is evident from the Ma condition that it is in rasi sandhi and aspected by Sa and Ju which may cause delay in the event. Now coming forward to RA main .Ra just follows the Ma. Ra is representative of Jup, Sat and Mer.All these three dasas come after Ra. So if there is no denial then Ra main period confirms the issue of child birth.Besides that I shall confirm the role of its planet. After discarding the role of Mer and Jup as stated above the Sat is only planet left out responsible for Ra. Sa is conjunct with Ra in 3rd which is 11th from 5th..Sat is not the star lord of any planet therefoe he is very strong significator.. Sa is the star lord of 3 and 11 cusp.Sa is the lord of 2nd and placed in 2nd from its own house. So it may be concluded that Ra is strong agent of Sa. You may kindly correct me if I have left any point and pin point my mistakes so arrived. This way you may help me understanding the theory of starlord, sublord and subsublord. In next maile I shall go for the selection of bhukti lord. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra rcmastro--- On Fri, 29/1/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani wrote: kadavasalramani <kadavasalramaniRe: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Date: Friday, 29 January, 2010, 6:21 PM  Dear Ramesh Mishraji, Your inquisitiveness to learn and apply the same in pracice is very much appreciable. This is what required to improve the knowledge to put theory into pracice. I hope by now you may be knowing the fundamental principle of K.P.system that the Planet is the souce; Constellation indicates the nature of the result and the sub is the deciding factor whether the matter is fruitful or not. For you to understand it clearly, let me give a you small example. A native of Aris Lagna. His 5th cusp Leo is the sign indicating his daughter. The sign lord is Sun strong for 5th is indicating about his daughter and also 5th is meant for celebration of auspicious event. (source) The constellation lord of the 5th cusp is significator for 6th, 11th and 3rd of the native's chart, this indicates daughter's marriage affair - 2, 7 and 11 of the daughter (treating 5th as Lagna of daughter). (nature of the result). Now important planet sub-lord signifies 12th and also strongly placed in 12. 12th is for heavy expenditure. What this 5th cusp indicates? The native is trying to celebrate his daughter's marriage for which he has to incur heavy expenditure. This will be during the period of DBA conjointly runs. According to fundamental principle stated above, 5th is source (about his daughter), Constellation shows marriage affair of his daughter (nature) and the sub indicates expenditure (the result of the nature indicated by source. Siilarly in the case of Quiz No.17, Planet is Mars (which is doubted by you). Source is correct 5th signifn, for child birth. Mars is in the constellation of his own with self strength (again indication of birth of child, 11th indicates fulfilment of desire. O.K. Now the important final deciding authority i.e. Sub of Mars. It is Mercury placed in 6th which is not good for birth of child. Merc. is in star and sub of Rah in 3 conjoined with Saturn. As you say, though Mars has his major period upto Decr.1985, but Mars is devoid of fruitful sub for him to give the event. Venus and Sun are no doubt strong for 5th. Now examine the strength of them as above. Sun is in 5th and in the star of Mars - O,K. He is in the sub of Satn. a significator of strong 2nd. But Sun is afflicted by the aspect of Saturn, who is in the star of Mercury in 6th. Take Venus another signfr, for 5th and S/L of 5th, a strong self strength planet. Venus is in the star of Mars in 5th O.K. But Venus is in the sub of Jupiter at 8th with self strength. Moreover, both Sun and Venus are aspected by Saturn and thus afflicted. On the contrary Saturn will get the power of both Venus and Sun due to his aspect on them. Saturn is strong significator for 2nd house. Next period is Rahu who is in 3 in conjunction with Saturn absorbing power of Saturn by himself. Rahu is in the sub of (final deciding authority) Moon, who is strong signfr. of 5th thro' his star lord Sun and also by his sub lord Venus. So Rahu is beneficial for giving child birth, Please note that 3rd signification is also required for the child to come out from mother's body. Since you say you are in learning process, I have elaborated the position of planets. I shall be much pleased if you could understand it properly. the DBA planets. Like this in the Quiz 17, you are right that Mars Dasa period is yet to go till Decr.1985. Here Planet is Mars under discussion. Mars is strong signfr. of 5th to give chiled. You further examine his star lord which is Mars. O.K. It is same. You further examine the sub lord of the planet Mars as per the fundamental prinicple explained above. It is Mercury strong significator for 6th. Mars the planet is also strong for 4th which is 12th to 5th for child birth (negative). So Mars period goes off without fruitful result. Next is Rahu to run period. Rahu is not with self strength. He is in 3rd Bhavam along with Saturn. Rahu is node which is given importance in KP. By substitution theory he is inserted as substitute for a planet with which he is connected either by conjunction, aspect or sub etc. Here he gets power of Saturn with whom he is conjoined. Saturn is strong for 2nd, 3rd, 5th by its aspect. 3rd signification is a must in the case of delivery, as it is 12th to 4th permanent residence. 3rd signification will enable the child to come out from its mother's body. Final deciding authority viz sub of the Planet Rahu, it is Moon who is in the star of Sun at 5 and sub of Venus also at 5 with self strength. So Moon is fully favourable for delivering the child. Since you say that you are under learning process. I have elaborated my explanation. If you could understand this minute details, I shall be happy. In short you have to study the strength of planet and study whether it is useful for the event or not in great care. Hope I have clarified your doubt. Pl.ack,receipt. With best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani --- Original Message ----- ramesh mishra @gro ups.com Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:49 PM Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Dear Adith Ji and Biprid Ji, This explanation for approaching the time was insufficient for me to understand.As I told earlier I am learning this system I could not get the explanation to my satisfaction. My first query is that why Mars main could not give the event of childbirth when therewas 2 years left for Mars to go. Mars is the significator of 5th and 11th house. Mars is tthe starlord of Venus who is CSL of 2,5 and 11. It means Ma and Ve both of these planets are responsible for giving the result in its dasa.bhukti. antar. But none of these planet took part .Why? Can you please make me understand ? After getting the answer I may proceed for further query.Since I am in learning stage my question may not be liked by you but it is for me necessary to understand.So if you like to give the answers I shall be highly obliged to you. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra rcmastro--- On Thu, 28/1/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS@gro ups.comThursday, 28 January, 2010, 8:00 AM Dear KSV Ramani ji, Thanks . Keep participating in the future quiz. As I said, it is not an easy one. There are more possibility of wrong selection . If I were also one among the participants, I might have failed also. Becasue while analysis we have to be more concentrated and keen, since many cases may be of such in nature. Regards Adith On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:32 PM, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear Sri Adithji, Excellent way of presentation of your analysis. The importance given by you or finding the strength of planets is very nice and good lesson to learners. Thanks for mentioning my name too. Congrats. With very best wishes, K.S.V.Ramani - adith kasinath.g.k @gro ups.com Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:54 PM QUIZ 17 RESULTS [4 Attachments] Dear Friends and Participants,Here is the Result: SHE GOT HER MALE BABY DURING RAHU- SAT- SUN DATE: 2/12/1992 3.47 PM CHENNAI when MOON IN SAT SIGN AND RAHU STAR. WINNER: MR. BIPS VASAWADA (BIPRID) : RAHU-SAT-VENUSHEARTY CONGRATULATION TO HIM! HATS OFF!! I ALSO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE RAHU DASA (Ramesh Mishra ji, Dhananjay Kekuda ji, VijayaMohan ji, KSV Ramani ji and Vgr Pawan ji ). I have attached herewith the Score Board with explanation.I have attached my analysis report also.I have attached the analysis report by Biprid.Kind Note: (DISCUSSION WITH BIPRID)I have also attached a file complilation of my discussion with Mr. Biprid .The reason behind is that: He is the only one who almost hits the Bulls Eye. He has not selected Mars Dasa. He chose Rahu Dasa and Sat Bukthi. In his report through through 4 step method he said, given in excel sheet, I could not find the reasons for his selection.hence I asked him to explain the reason behind it. Initially he said the mother got married in 85 (actullay around 84) hence the chances are after 86 in Rahu dasa. I was not convinced with that and again asked ti explain the reasons. He has given the reason why he has not selected the Mars Dasa. The Conversation is attached herewith.The reason behind my consistent query to him to find out his interpretation and reason behind it.His interpretation and his intuition as he said guided him perfectly.Many thanks and wishes for the participants for their great effort.AS I SAID IN THE QUIZ ITSELF CLEARLY "PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH OF THE SIGNIFICATORS" IN ALL ASPECTS.ALSO PLS GIVE IMPORTANCE TO NODES (As I ever say..MULTI FACED WEAPONS).If SAT is a strong signifiicator SAT's role will be there during the event as our Guruji KSK said.This is not an easy "Quiz". If I were one among you, I also might have failed.Hope we learn from each failures.Good Luck!With RegardsAdith Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Dear Senthil ji,Rightly said.Even in Quiz 17, the event is possible in RAHU,SAT,SUN period.The chances are possible in :RAHU (dasa)-RAHU(bukthi)-SAT(andra)-SUN(sukshma) period alsoBut it did not happen. The reason, may be SAT delayed till his SUb period and may be the Transit did not favor. Also she was undergone treatment only in the SAT period.Whenever we finalise the significators, the chances of the event can be checked from all the probabilities .This can also be cross checked with Transit which favors. Thanks and RegardsAdithOn Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Senthil <athi_ram wrote:  Dear Ramani,  In general, if you see the DBA for corresponding events in a chart some will happen in  A(dasa)-A(bukthi)-A(anthra) A(dasa)-A(bukthi)-B(anthra) A(dasa)-B(bukthi)-C(anthra)  We know very well that the selection of the correct DBA is not the simple exercise to pinpoint the events.Kindly take all the queries are put here to widen our knowledge and not to criticize you or any body. Even if you ask me also it is very difficult to answer and thanks for you reply.  GOOD LUCK!!  D.Senthil --- On Sat, 1/30/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani wrote: kadavasalramani <kadavasalramaniRe: QUIZ 17 RESULTS Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 5:00 PM   Dear Sri Senthil,  Nice question. In my oinion, the following status of Venus could have activated the marriage time in Venus Bhukthi.  (1) Venus is karaka for marriage, which has to come in any way in DBA atleast as Day lord.  (2) Venus' sub lord Jupiter though in 8th is in the sub of Rahu at 3 which is conjoined with Saturn, strong lord of 2nd which is required in the marriage group of 2,7,11. Moreover Venus is strongly aspected by Saturn. sole significator of 2nd Bhava, which is vacnt. Venus thro' her sub could have got 2nd signfn. thro' her sublord Jupiter.  (3) As you are aware that a planet first will give the result of its star lord. Venus is in the star of Mars who is strong significator of 11th as the house 11 is vacant and Venus too aspects 11th. Hence Venus has to give the result of 11th though not 7th the main signification.  (4) Approximately the marriage of the lady in question was in the middle of 1984 (of her 16th year of marriage). If you could see the Ephimery of that time, you may find Venus os the only planet transiting on Mars star, which could have made Venus to enter as Bhukthi lord.  (5) In my opinion, we cannot ignore Karakatwa of a planet, even if it is not a strong signfr. of 2, 7, 11. In this case, Venus is also sub lord for the 7th lord Moon. Moon has its role for any event as star lord of the day. Such Moon has the sub of Venus. So Venus plays some sort of role on all the events.  If the quiz master has any other valid reson, I shall be glad to to invite him to appise the reason how Bhukthi lord was Venus at the time of marriage.  With best wishes,  K.S.V.Ramani - Senthil @gro ups.com Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:11 PM Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS  Dear Ramani,  Thanks for your reply.  //(2) Venus, though with self strength is in the sub of Jupiter at 8th, besides his stong ownership of 10th, which are not fruitful for 2nd house. //  If you say that the VEN is not fruitful for 2nd house then how she got married in VEN bukthi?  GOOD LUCK!!  D.Senthil--- On Fri, 1/29/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS @gro ups.comFriday, January 29, 2010, 1:22 AM   Dear Sri Senthil,  Reg. Quiz No.17, your doubt about signification of 2nd house, Shri Adithji in the Quiz itself specifically requested us to find out the strength of each planet. No doubt the 2nd house is signified by Sun, Venus, Mars as star lord of 2nd cusp, and Saturn. If you assess the strength, you will find that (1) Sun, thro' his sub Saturn signifies 3. 2, 6,9. (2) Venus, though with self strength is in the sub of Jupiter at 8th, besides his stong ownership of 10th, which are not fruitful for 2nd house. (3) Mars though with self strength and star lord of 2nd cusp, is lord of 4th besides his sub being Mercury in 6th, which are not fruitul for 2nd cuso.  (4) Lastly Saturn with self strength is lord of 2nd cusp, which is vacaant, and he is in his own sub again signifying 2nd house. So he is strongst significator. You may doubt why Sun in the sub of same Saturn signifying 2nd house cannot be taken for 2nd strongest significator. This is because Saturn aspects both Sun and Venus by his 3rd apect. By this aspect Saturn takes the powers of both Venus and Sun and Saturn is sole strong significator for 2nd house. This is correctly seen from the event happenned in Rahu Dasa Saturn Bhukthi and Sun Anthara. 2nd significator strong by itself Saturn is given preference as Bhukthi lord over the Sun who is subservient to Saturn. Hope this may clear your doubt.  With best wishes,  K.S.V.Ramani - Senthil @gro ups.com Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:37 PM Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS  Dear Adith, It is a very nice quiz. But however we are yet to find the other hidden RULES which decide the house matter. Have you checked the participants Ruling planets how far it helped the astrologer to fix the date of event etc. The RP at the time of my judgment place & a horary number helped me to fix the child birth lagna, 4th cusp/9th cusp planet connection, transit of sun to some extend correct except moon transit and DBA thus the end result was wrong. Below points are for discussion and not to criticize you (or) anybody. For Example, suppose planets signifying 2nd house, Here SAT, SUN & VEN (VEN is the 2nd CSL and there is no planet in VEN star and thus VEN becomes strongest significator which you have not considered at all, the reason is not clear) If we go always the strongest then all the house karaka represents by 2nd house (money, addition in family member for child/marriage etc etc) should be given by only ONE planet which may not happen except there is only ONE planet and nothing else connected to 2nd house. Suppose if we put the following questions how will you select the correct DBA (for past events)? 1. When she got married? (Selection of 2nd house significator) 2. When she got 1st Child birth? (Again selection of 2nd house significator) 3. When she got 2nd Child birth? (Again selection of 2nd house significator) (Assuming that the above events happened to a particular lady) Suppose incase of INDIA, in general the child birth happens after marriage only (some exceptional case let us ignore it) But if you consider foreign people charts (US etc) the childbirth may happen before marriage because of the local culture/living style etc. Here the logic will not work. Now how will you pick the significator? Members also can through some light on the above. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil--- On Wed, 1/27/10, vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: QUIZ 17 RESULTS@gro ups.com Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 5:32 AM  Adithji Pranam,thanks alot for exciting quiz , yes really enjoyed alot,....... .congratulations to Sri Biprid ji for his very close timing......very good exercise indeed and good explanation from you but a small doubt from me, As per your explanation if rahu derives power by being in the sub of " Sun " who in turn in the star of mars l/o 4,11 in 5 , then why moon and kethu are weak by being in the sub of venus (venus stars unoccupied may be thats why you stopped here not going to her star level), for the reason that she is 10 lord and 10 vacant. Isnt it mars is also strong for 4 then how rahu be fruitful then. Actually venus is sublord for 2,5,6,9,11 houses and occupant of 5th cusp which is 6th from 10th cusp, seems to be stronger than sun! can you kindly clarify in this regard, i am not pointing pls dnt take it otherwise i just want clarity thats all. Once again thanks alot for your wonderful quiz and very good presentation of results. my hearty congrats to all those participants. Guruji bless us All !!regardsPeace and Prosperity to All !!VGR--- On Wed, 27/1/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> QUIZ 17 RESULTS [4 Attachments] @gro ups.comWednesday, 27 January, 2010, 3:54 PM  Dear Friends and Participants,Here is the Result: SHE GOT HER MALE BABY DURING  RAHU- SAT- SUN DATE: 2/12/1992 3.47 PM CHENNAI when MOON IN SAT SIGN AND RAHU STAR.  WINNER: MR. BIPS VASAWADA (BIPRID) : RAHU-SAT-VENUSHEARTY CONGRATULATION TO HIM! HATS OFF!! I ALSO APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE RAHU DASA (Ramesh Mishra ji, Dhananjay Kekuda ji, VijayaMohan ji, KSV Ramani ji and Vgr Pawan ji ). I have attached herewith the Score Board with explanation.I have attached my analysis report also.I have attached the analysis report by Biprid. Kind Note: (DISCUSSION WITH BIPRID)I have also attached a file complilation of my discussion with Mr. Biprid .The reason behind is that: He is the only one who almost hits the Bulls Eye. He has not selected Mars Dasa. He chose Rahu Dasa and Sat Bukthi. In his report through through 4 step method he said, given in excel sheet, I could not find the reasons for his selection. hence I asked him to explain the reason behind it. Initially he said the mother got married in 85 (actullay around 84) hence the chances are after 86 in Rahu dasa. I was not convinced with that and again asked ti explain the reasons. He has given the reason why he has not selected the Mars Dasa. The Conversation is attached herewith.The reason behind my consistent query to him to find out his interpretation and reason behind it.His interpretation and his intuition as he said guided him perfectly. Many thanks and wishes for the participants for their great effort.AS I SAID IN THE QUIZ ITSELF CLEARLY " PLS LOOK INTO THE STRENGTH OF THE SIGNIFICATORS " IN ALL ASPECTS.ALSO PLS GIVE IMPORTANCE TO NODES (As I ever say..MULTI FACED WEAPONS). If SAT is a strong signifiicator SAT's role will be there during the event as our Guruji KSK said.This is not an easy " Quiz " . If I were one among you, I also might have failed. Hope we learn from each failures.Good Luck!With RegardsAdith The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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