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it is our practise to take one horary no between 1 to 249 from "jatak".Some jatak make lot of confusion while giving number,sometimes they give their lucky number , or even after astrologer finish preparing chart , they say that there were more than 1 number in their mind so confusing astrologer also.Some astrologers use plastic or metal tokens marked with numbers but in this method horary number comes like lottery and it has less to do with mind of jatak . So i have doubt whether this system of

taking horary number using token numbers is fruitful and accurate and will give correct answers? What can be the best solution?

 

 

with regards ,

pramod .

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Dear Ghanekar ji,

 

We normally must excersise our mind and contemplate on matters which are

constructive. If you have any doubts on this method of tokens then all

you have to do, is not indulge in it. We just cannot pass judgements on

what others are doing if it does not affect us in any manner. (By the

way personally I am not using plastic tokens, but am seriously

interested in beginning this method, just dont know from where to buy

the tokens and have no spare time to search for these.)

 

Please explain why the number in this method comes like lottery.

Please also explain whether the number is dependent on the natives

destiny or any things else?

Please also inform whether are you sure that every time the native

imagines and tells a number,is it always the first number that appeared

in his mind?

Please also give your kind views that if a native picks a plastic token,

then will he keep it back in the bag if he does not like that number,

and go for another number?

Why is picking a plastic token a lottery, and a number from the mind,

not one?

Will a person imagining a number from his mind not think of some number

say for instance 20, or whatever, and finally say 21 to teh astrologer

thinking that its a " Shubha " number? Does the native have the authority

and liberty to do this while picking a plastic token ?

 

I believe if the answers to the above are answered honestly, then the

milk and the water in the milk would be seperated.

 

I also belive ethat one must be constructive in thinking. If we cannot

bring in newer methods and confirm them through practise, we have no

authority or liberty to harbour a negative approach to some method which

some one else who has developed and been successful with.

 

Are we actually looking for public affirmations to deride this method,

or are we sure that we are actually looking for " best solutions " as

mentioned by your goodself ? because I suppose so many senior and

experienced veteran astrologers here are using among the best Horary

methods. What has been your experience on what is been done on the

Forum? Why loss of faith in what has been in vogue over here, and need

for sudden comparison between their methods and the plastic tokens ?

 

Why dont you find the current methods employed by various astrologers

here as " Not best " . What is the flaw here, please enlighten. The flaw in

your view for plastic tokens has already been pointed out as per your

thinking ( Not in consensus with my views though). SO please say why are

you looking for " best solutions " among the other methods ?

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

, pramod ghanekar <pkg_2424 wrote:

>

> DEAR GROUP MEMBERS,

> it is our practise to take one horary no between 1 to 249 from

" jatak " .Some jatak make lot of confusion while giving number,sometimes

they give their lucky number , or even after astrologer finish preparing

chart , they say that there were more than 1 number in their mind so

confusing astrologer also.Some astrologers use plastic or metal tokens

marked with numbers but in this method horary number comes like lottery

and it has less to do with mind of jatak . So i have doubt whether this

system of

> taking horary number using token numbers is fruitful and accurate and

will give correct answers? What can be the best solution?

>

>

> with regards ,

> pramod .

>

>

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Hello pramod,

 

The token system will give more realistic results provided you insist the client to pick one token keeping in their mind to know about specific query.

 

GOOD LUCK!!

 

D.Senthil--- On Wed, 1/27/10, pramod ghanekar <pkg_2424 wrote:

pramod ghanekar <pkg_2424 ABOUT GETTING HORARY NUMBER Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 9:52 AM

 

 

DEAR GROUP MEMBERS,

it is our practise to take one horary no between 1 to 249 from "jatak".Some jatak make lot of confusion while giving number,sometimes they give their lucky number , or even after astrologer finish preparing chart , they say that there were more than 1 number in their mind so confusing astrologer also.Some astrologers use plastic or metal tokens marked with numbers but in this method horary number comes like lottery and it has less to do with mind of jatak . So i have doubt whether this system of

taking horary number using token numbers is fruitful and accurate and will give correct answers? What can be the best solution?

 

 

with regards ,

pramod .

 

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Dear Pramod Ji

Keep with book of 400 pages as said by guru ji, but in this you will have confusion for left or

right pages.

so I advice to make a book of 300 pages keep blank 25 blank pages in front and back.

Rest Seniors will reply and follow their advice.

Thanks & Regards

suresh awasthi --- On Wed, 1/27/10, pramod ghanekar <pkg_2424 wrote:

pramod ghanekar <pkg_2424 ABOUT GETTING HORARY NUMBER Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 5:52 PM

 

 

DEAR GROUP MEMBERS,

it is our practise to take one horary no between 1 to 249 from "jatak".Some jatak make lot of confusion while giving number,sometimes they give their lucky number , or even after astrologer finish preparing chart , they say that there were more than 1 number in their mind so confusing astrologer also.Some astrologers use plastic or metal tokens marked with numbers but in this method horary number comes like lottery and it has less to do with mind of jatak . So i have doubt whether this system of

taking horary number using token numbers is fruitful and accurate and will give correct answers? What can be the best solution?

 

 

with regards ,

pramod .

 

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or you can use software made by shri vishram ji it must be in file section, or send mail to me I will send.

Suresh awasthi--- On Wed, 1/27/10, pramod ghanekar <pkg_2424 wrote:

pramod ghanekar <pkg_2424 ABOUT GETTING HORARY NUMBER Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 5:52 PM

 

 

DEAR GROUP MEMBERS,

it is our practise to take one horary no between 1 to 249 from "jatak".Some jatak make lot of confusion while giving number,sometimes they give their lucky number , or even after astrologer finish preparing chart , they say that there were more than 1 number in their mind so confusing astrologer also.Some astrologers use plastic or metal tokens marked with numbers but in this method horary number comes like lottery and it has less to do with mind of jatak . So i have doubt whether this system of

taking horary number using token numbers is fruitful and accurate and will give correct answers? What can be the best solution?

 

 

with regards ,

pramod .

 

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Dear Pramod,

A horary number taken by any of the methods you have described,will give correct results...

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

pramod ghanekar <pkg_2424 Sent: Wed, 27 January, 2010 11:22:15 PM ABOUT GETTING HORARY NUMBER

 

 

DEAR GROUP MEMBERS,

it is our practise to take one horary no between 1 to 249 from "jatak".Some jatak make lot of confusion while giving number,sometimes they give their lucky number , or even after astrologer finish preparing chart , they say that there were more than 1 number in their mind so confusing astrologer also.Some astrologers use plastic or metal tokens marked with numbers but in this method horary number comes like lottery and it has less to do with mind of jatak . So i have doubt whether this system of

taking horary number using token numbers is fruitful and accurate and will give correct answers? What can be the best solution?

 

 

with regards ,

pramod .

 

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Through consant making of Horary Charts from the given numbers, or selected

numbers, or the chosen numbers, or from plastic tokens, or from Computer

softwares,or from picking a page number from a book, or from whatever method one

employs, an astrologer constantly evolves and develops or identifies a method

which works best for him, and this is an individual approach for each astrologer

which he chooses after gaining confidence through his own experience.

 

This is also similiar to each ones approach of studying the chart- some study it

just through KP, some study it through KP and Traditional both, some through

Traditional and Lalkitab both, some others through KP and Western, while some

few others who are adept may be using all approaches to cracking a chart. Theres

no hard and fast rules, as this " Must Be " .

 

What gives each one His success " is " the right approach for him.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

>

> Dear Ghanekar ji,

>

> We normally must excersise our mind and contemplate on matters which are

> constructive. If you have any doubts on this method of tokens then all

> you have to do, is not indulge in it. We just cannot pass judgements on

> what others are doing if it does not affect us in any manner. (By the

> way personally I am not using plastic tokens, but am seriously

> interested in beginning this method, just dont know from where to buy

> the tokens and have no spare time to search for these.)

>

> Please explain why the number in this method comes like lottery.

> Please also explain whether the number is dependent on the natives

> destiny or any things else?

> Please also inform whether are you sure that every time the native

> imagines and tells a number,is it always the first number that appeared

> in his mind?

> Please also give your kind views that if a native picks a plastic token,

> then will he keep it back in the bag if he does not like that number,

> and go for another number?

> Why is picking a plastic token a lottery, and a number from the mind,

> not one?

> Will a person imagining a number from his mind not think of some number

> say for instance 20, or whatever, and finally say 21 to teh astrologer

> thinking that its a " Shubha " number? Does the native have the authority

> and liberty to do this while picking a plastic token ?

>

> I believe if the answers to the above are answered honestly, then the

> milk and the water in the milk would be seperated.

>

> I also belive ethat one must be constructive in thinking. If we cannot

> bring in newer methods and confirm them through practise, we have no

> authority or liberty to harbour a negative approach to some method which

> some one else who has developed and been successful with.

>

> Are we actually looking for public affirmations to deride this method,

> or are we sure that we are actually looking for " best solutions " as

> mentioned by your goodself ? because I suppose so many senior and

> experienced veteran astrologers here are using among the best Horary

> methods. What has been your experience on what is been done on the

> Forum? Why loss of faith in what has been in vogue over here, and need

> for sudden comparison between their methods and the plastic tokens ?

>

> Why dont you find the current methods employed by various astrologers

> here as " Not best " . What is the flaw here, please enlighten. The flaw in

> your view for plastic tokens has already been pointed out as per your

> thinking ( Not in consensus with my views though). SO please say why are

> you looking for " best solutions " among the other methods ?

>

> best wishes,

> Bhaskar.

, pramod ghanekar <pkg_2424@> wrote:

> >

> > DEAR GROUP MEMBERS,

> > it is our practise to take one horary no between 1 to 249 from

> " jatak " .Some jatak make lot of confusion while giving number,sometimes

> they give their lucky number , or even after astrologer finish preparing

> chart , they say that there were more than 1 number in their mind so

> confusing astrologer also.Some astrologers use plastic or metal tokens

> marked with numbers but in this method horary number comes like lottery

> and it has less to do with mind of jatak . So i have doubt whether this

> system of

> > taking horary number using token numbers is fruitful and accurate and

> will give correct answers? What can be the best solution?

> >

> >

> > with regards ,

> > pramod .

> >

> >

> > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!

> http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/

> >

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The principle of the Lottery Ticket and the Horary Number is the same.

Destiny will show its face in the same manner in both ways, as it is supposed

to, as per the individuals chart.

 

Whatever one is destined to, he will pick up that same Lottery ticket from

the wad of Lottery tickets. Isnt it ? If he is not destined to get money, then

will he pick up a 5 Lakhs Lottery ticket Number ? No. He will not.

Astrologically if his Dasha does not show that he is to earn an enormous

wealth that time, then will he ? No.

 

Same way with Horary Number. Whatever one is destined to, he will pick

only that number , how many times he may shuffle the Plastic Tokens

does not matter. He will not get a Token number showing favourable

Horary Chart if he is not destined to.

 

(Though the principle and resultant conclusions of of destiny remaining

the same, yet Lottery still comes under the category of Gambling, because

the motive in Gambling is different from the motive of picking a Plastic

token for giving to the Astrologer, where the intentions is not to make

money , but to receive an answer)

 

This is not Gambling, and the Picking number of a Plastic Token for a

Horary number cannot be compared to Gambling. The motive here is

not to earn money, where others loose due to our earning (Which is

the actual process of Gambling). The motive here is to attempt to enquire

a proper answer for an urge to know the answer to an enquiry.

 

Picking a Plastic token from a Bag of Plastic Tokens is far superior to

the other methods, like imagining a number (Bcoz one may change the

number once or twice before mentioning to the astrologer), or picking

a number from the right side or page of a Book where only either

even numbers or only odd numbers will appear on either side.

 

There is no ambiguity in picking a Plastic token, because once it is picked,

it does not go back for a change as per whims or fancies of the Querist.

Does it ?

 

You come to realise what is in store in your destiny, through

both ways, either by buying a Lottery Ticket, or by picking a Plastic Token

for the Horaray Number .

But picking a Horary Number through the Plastic Token, is a more honourable

manner and approach to know ones destiny. I hope all will agree to this.

 

 

So please do not compare the picking of a Lottery ticket to a Plastic token

for an Horary number.

 

Hope this clears the doubts.

The above are my personal views. One may agree or disagree but please

argue with logic, if you have to.

 

(This is my final mail on this thread)

 

Best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> Through consant making of Horary Charts from the given numbers, or selected numbers, or the chosen numbers, or from plastic tokens, or from Computer softwares,or from picking a page number from a book, or from whatever method one employs, an astrologer constantly evolves and develops or identifies a method which works best for him, and this is an individual approach for each astrologer which he chooses after gaining confidence through his own experience.> > This is also similiar to each ones approach of studying the chart- some study it just through KP, some study it through KP and Traditional both, some through Traditional and Lalkitab both, some others through KP and Western, while some few others who are adept may be using all approaches to cracking a chart. Theres no hard and fast rules, as this "Must Be".> > What gives each one His success "is" the right approach for him.> > best wishes,> Bhaskar.> > > > , "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Ghanekar ji,> > > > We normally must excersise our mind and contemplate on matters which are> > constructive. If you have any doubts on this method of tokens then all> > you have to do, is not indulge in it. We just cannot pass judgements on> > what others are doing if it does not affect us in any manner. (By the> > way personally I am not using plastic tokens, but am seriously> > interested in beginning this method, just dont know from where to buy> > the tokens and have no spare time to search for these.)> > > > Please explain why the number in this method comes like lottery.> > Please also explain whether the number is dependent on the natives> > destiny or any things else?> > Please also inform whether are you sure that every time the native> > imagines and tells a number,is it always the first number that appeared> > in his mind?> > Please also give your kind views that if a native picks a plastic token,> > then will he keep it back in the bag if he does not like that number,> > and go for another number?> > Why is picking a plastic token a lottery, and a number from the mind,> > not one?> > Will a person imagining a number from his mind not think of some number> > say for instance 20, or whatever, and finally say 21 to teh astrologer> > thinking that its a "Shubha" number? Does the native have the authority> > and liberty to do this while picking a plastic token ?> > > > I believe if the answers to the above are answered honestly, then the> > milk and the water in the milk would be seperated.> > > > I also belive ethat one must be constructive in thinking. If we cannot> > bring in newer methods and confirm them through practise, we have no> > authority or liberty to harbour a negative approach to some method which> > some one else who has developed and been successful with.> > > > Are we actually looking for public affirmations to deride this method,> > or are we sure that we are actually looking for "best solutions" as> > mentioned by your goodself ? because I suppose so many senior and> > experienced veteran astrologers here are using among the best Horary> > methods. What has been your experience on what is been done on the> > Forum? Why loss of faith in what has been in vogue over here, and need> > for sudden comparison between their methods and the plastic tokens ?> > > > Why dont you find the current methods employed by various astrologers> > here as "Not best". What is the flaw here, please enlighten. The flaw in> > your view for plastic tokens has already been pointed out as per your> > thinking ( Not in consensus with my views though). SO please say why are> > you looking for "best solutions" among the other methods ?> > > > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > , pramod ghanekar <pkg_2424@> wrote:> > >> > > DEAR GROUP MEMBERS,> > > it is our practise to take one horary no between 1 to 249 from> > "jatak".Some jatak make lot of confusion while giving number,sometimes > > they give their lucky number , or even after astrologer finish preparing> > chart , they say that there were more than 1 number in their mind so> > confusing astrologer also.Some astrologers use plastic or metal tokens> > marked with numbers but in this method horary number comes like lottery> > and it has less to do with mind of jatak . So i have doubt whether this> > system of> > > taking horary number using token numbers is fruitful and accurate and> > will give correct answers? What can be the best solution?> > >> > >> > > with regards ,> > > pramod .> > >> > >> > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!> > http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/> > >> >>

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Dear friends

I have enclosed herwith special software for horary numbers from 1 to 249.

Only you have to copy it in to any folder and click the exe file and click any portion named "click anywhere" It will give random number. After clicking at the same place, the same number can not be had.

With regards

Vijayanand Patil, President, Astrovision, Kolhapur,

Cel NO. +91 9422582853/+91 9673746303On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:04:12 +0530  wrote>              or you can use software made by shri vishram ji it must be in file section, or send mail to me I will send.Suresh awasthi>>--- On Wed, 1/27/10, pramod ghanekar wrote:>>pramod ghanekar > ABOUT GETTING HORARY NUMBER> >Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 5:52 PM>> DEAR GROUP MEMBERS,it is our practise to take one horary no between 1 to 249 from "jatak".Some jatak make lot of confusion while giving number,sometimes they give their lucky number , or even afterastrologerfinish preparing chart, they say that there were more than 1 number in their mind so confusing astrologer also.Some astrologers use plastic or metal tokens marked with numbers but in this method horary number comes like lottery and it has less to do with mind of jatak . So i have doubt whether this system of taking horary number using token numbers is fruitful and accurate and will give correct answers? What can be the best solution?with regards ,pramod .>The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.                             

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