Guest guest Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Hello, All KP Astrologer do not use same technique of BTR....WHY? It should be same, otherwise no one can predict confidently. We all should work on only one method at a time and all astrologers should contribute with their methods and proofs plus all essential data. There are so many astrologers in the group and I request them to proove their method of BTR giving atleast 25 examples...with events as proof. Then we can make a conclusion that which method is giving results accurately. Then only we will be able to advance KP to its next step. There is a very good resource website available for this purpose with events and essential data to cast horoscopes.... on website http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Main_Page We can use it for research. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Dear Senthil, This is all "old hat" pl. privide your OWN FFRESH DATA IF ANY ELSE STOP DISCUSSING ENDLESSLY AND STUDY WHAT I HAVE SENT YOU AND COMMENT...THE LATEST EXAMPLE DISPROVE IT AND PROVE THAT IT IS WRONG IF YOU CAN...! Yogesh Lajmi Senthil <athi_ram Sent: Mon, 22 February, 2010 6:29:42 AMRe: Re: BTR Dear TinWin, Thanks for the reference & details. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil--- On Sun, 2/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote: TW <tw853 > Re: BTR@gro ups.comSunday, February 21, 2010, 5:22 AM http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 30331?threaded= 1 & l=1http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 29134http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 30596?threaded= 1 & l=1http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 5493?threaded= 1 & l=1In File section of this Group Rectification Study A Study of Various Methodologies of Birth Time Rectification pandeypunit May 28, 2005Files > Rectification Study Name Size Creator Created AA Rated2Data Check by RP.txt AA rated data check by RP Method 13 KB kanbosastro Jun 4, 2005 aa-records1. txt AA Records for RP-based Rectification 5 KB ranga_mms May 30, 2005 aa-records1cheke by RP.txt Ruling Planets Technique Applied to AA Charts 10 KB kanbosastro May 30, 2005 aa-records2( +10Mnt)Check with RP Method.txt RP Checking with (+10Mnt. from AA Rated Data) Falsy data 14 KB kanbosastro Jun 12, 2005 aa-records2( -10Mnt)Check By RP Method.txt RP Checking with (-10Mnt. from AA Rated Data) Falsy data 13 KB kanbosastro Jun 7, 2005http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 18612?threaded= 1 & l=12. The controversy about what is the birth time will never be settled.-K.N. Rao: Timing of Events Through Vimshottari Dasha, 1996, in Preface to theSecond Editionhttp://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 30169?threaded= 1 & l=1@gro ups.com, SARA RAJU <saraus2001@. ..> wrote:>> Dear senthil,> I understood that you are not against the members but you are against the rules . So the responsbility you to prove the correct one as said by lajmiji and other senior memebers.> which one is right BTR method in KP? > Reg.,sara > > > > --- On Sat, 20/2/10, Senthil athi_ram wrote:> > Senthil athi_ram Re: Re: BTR> @gro ups.com> Saturday, 20 February, 2010, 7:10 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lajmi,>  > Members have already proved that the subject BTR is WRONG.>  > Please refer the URL given below & i have also given enough to disprove the RULE.>  > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 30331> >  > GOOD LUCK!!>  > D.Senthil> > --- On Fri, 2/19/10, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >> Re: Re: BTR> @gro ups.com> Cc: "Senthil" athi_ram >, "Punit Pandey" punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> Friday, February 19, 2010, 11:25 PM> > > > > > > > Dear Senthil,>                   You now have an opportunity to prove that this K.P. BTR rule is wrong...I have worked out the Exact TOB to be 01-14-30 AM,at Mumbai on 15/02/1946.. .>                   Can you accept the challenge and prove that the late M.P. Shanmugham's Rule is wrong... !>                   You have carried out a harangue against this rule in the past...here is a 'golden' opportunity. ..>                    Pl. don't let it slip away...so that all of us can improve/correct our knowledge of K.P.>                   With best wishes,>                    Yogesh Lajmi.>                   >                    > > > > > Senthil athi_ram >> @gro ups.com> Fri, 19 February, 2010 8:43:58 PM> Re: Re: BTR> >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shyam/Lajmi,> > >  > //Sir I sincerely request you to guide me whether this rectified BTR> is correct, because "Ascendant Sub and SubSub" is equal to> "Moon Star and Sub".//>  > How may times we can tell this rule is NOT ACCEPTED BY KP ASTROLOGERS/ REJECTED RULE. Please answer the queries raised by the members regarding the above rule before you make any statement. Till then there is no point in talking about this RULE.>  > > GOOD LUCK!!>  > D.Senthil> > --- On Thu, 2/18/10, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >> Re: BTR> "Shyam" shyam1051@rediffmai l.com>> Cc: @gro ups.com> Thursday, February 18, 2010, 6:10 AM> > >  > > > > Dear Shyam,>                    The Rectified TOB you have arrived at,is absolutely correct,upto the minute,as per K.P. Principles.. .>                   With best wishes,>                   Yogesh Lajmi.>                    > > > > > > Shyam shyam1051@rediffmai l.com>> yogeshlajmi@ > Thu, 18 February, 2010 3:08:01 PM> BTR> > Respected Sir,> Namaste!> > I am Unemployed since last 4.5 years (Since Oct 2005), I am not> getting a job due to my age (49 yrs) and I am handicapped due to> Arthritis (Pain in joints)(fingers, elbow,knees, hips affected)> > Presently I am under Rahu Dasa and Venus Bhukti> > The birth time recorded at the time of my birth was 13:20 hrs> > I have rectified my birth time and > > My RECTIFIED BIRTH TIME COMES TO : 13:11:38 hrs> > Name: Shyam> Date of Birth : 03-02-1961 ( 3rd Feb 1961 )> Time of Birth : 13:11:38 hrs ( 1:11:38 PM )> Place of Birth : Pune> > ------------ --------- ---------> --------- --------- --------- ---------> Ascendant Sublord and SubSublord are (Venus & Rahu) :-> > CUSP... DEGREE..... RAS-NAK-SUB- SS> 1...... 038-43-38.. VEN-SUN-VEN- RAH > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------> Moon Starlord and Sublord are (Venus & Rahu) :-> > PLANET... DEGREE.... RAS-NAK-SUB- SS... Ret/Dir> MOON... 138-41-38... SUN-VEN-RAH- SAT.. Direct > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------> > So now can I consider this birth time as rectified and correct BTR.> > Since now I am under Rahu Dasa and Venus Bhukti and Venus being in> the star of Saturn lord of 9th in my horoscope which has negated the> possibility of job.> > I am eagerly waiting for bhukti to change, and to know the approx> date of change of Bhukti from Venus to Sun I have done this BTR.> > Sir I sincerely request you to guide me whether this rectified> BTR> is correct, because "Ascendant Sub and SubSub" is equal to> "Moon Star and Sub".> > Thanking you> God Bless You!> Shyam.> > > > > > >  > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> 7: Catch-up on your favourite Channel 7 TV shows easily, legally, and for free at PLUS7. Check it out. 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Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Dear Ramani, At the risk of being repetitive,pl. remember the newborn begins to live "on its own", from the moment of taking his 'first breath'... Therefore any time wrongly recorded,chances for which abound,needs to be corrected...! With best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani Sent: Mon, 22 February, 2010 6:23:33 AMRe: Re: BTR  Dear Sri Yogwshji. My friend's Daughter-in- law was due for normal delivery (no complaint about her health or the child in her womb) on 8th ot 9th Febry.2010 this month. Relatives fearing for inauspicious birth star of the child (Kettai/Moolam) on the days expected for normal delivery, requested the hospital authorities to prepone the delivery by 'C' surgery on 7th inst. itself without caring for astrological implications. The Cessarian surgery was conducted on 7-2-2010 morning approx. at 8-30 AM and a girl child was delivered safely in Anuradha star Kumba Lagna. My opinion is that this is a case of voluntary change of date and it does not fall into normal case of delivery. Even if we do BTR whether it will be right in such cases. What is KP Rule for such advancing days by preponing the delivery intentionally. Can we treat it as normal delivery and analyse the chart. I am yet to get the details of birth stars of parents, brother of the child to verify the birth star and also chlld's father's lagna position to compare with the 9th House position of the child. Your comment please. Regards, K.S.V.Ramani - Yogesh Lajmi @gro ups.com Cc: Senthil ; Punit Pandey Saturday, February 20, 2010 12:55 PM Re: Re: BTR Dear Senthil, You now have an opportunity to prove that this K.P. BTR rule is wrong...I have worked out the Exact TOB to be 01-14-30 AM,at Mumbai on 15/02/1946... Can you accept the challenge and prove that the late M.P. Shanmugham's Rule is wrong... ! You have carried out a harangue against this rule in the past...here is a 'golden' opportunity. .. Pl. don't let it slip away...so that all of us can improve/correct our knowledge of K.P. With best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. Senthil <athi_ram >@gro ups.comFri, 19 February, 2010 8:43:58 PMRe: Re: BTR Dear Shyam/Lajmi, //Sir I sincerely request you to guide me whether this rectified BTRis correct, because "Ascendant Sub and SubSub" is equal to"Moon Star and Sub".// How may times we can tell this rule is NOT ACCEPTED BY KP ASTROLOGERS/ REJECTED RULE. Please answer the queries raised by the members regarding the above rule before you make any statement. Till then there is no point in talking about this RULE. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil--- On Thu, 2/18/10, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > Re: BTR"Shyam" <shyam1051@rediffmai l.com>Cc: @gro ups.comThursday, February 18, 2010, 6:10 AM Dear Shyam, The Rectified TOB you have arrived at,is absolutely correct,upto the minute,as per K.P. Principles.. . With best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. Shyam <shyam1051@rediffmai l.com>yogeshlajmi@ Thu, 18 February, 2010 3:08:01 PMBTRRespected Sir,Namaste!I am Unemployed since last 4.5 years (Since Oct 2005), I am notgetting a job due to my age (49 yrs) and I am handicapped due toArthritis (Pain in joints)(fingers, elbow,knees, hips affected)Presently I am under Rahu Dasa and Venus BhuktiThe birth time recorded at the time of my birth was 13:20 hrsI have rectified my birth time and My RECTIFIED BIRTH TIME COMES TO : 13:11:38 hrsName: ShyamDate of Birth : 03-02-1961 ( 3rd Feb 1961 )Time of Birth : 13:11:38 hrs ( 1:11:38 PM )Place of Birth : Pune------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Ascendant Sublord and SubSublord are (Venus & Rahu) :-CUSP... DEGREE..... RAS-NAK-SUB- SS1...... 038-43-38.. VEN-SUN-VEN- RAH ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Moon Starlord and Sublord are (Venus & Rahu) :-PLANET... DEGREE.... RAS-NAK-SUB- SS... Ret/DirMOON... 138-41-38... SUN-VEN-RAH- SAT.. Direct ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------So now can I consider this birth time as rectified and correct BTR.Since now I am under Rahu Dasa and Venus Bhukti and Venus being inthe star of Saturn lord of 9th in my horoscope which has negated thepossibility of job.I am eagerly waiting for bhukti to change, and to know the approxdate of change of Bhukti from Venus to Sun I have done this BTR.Sir I sincerely request you to guide me whether this rectified BTRis correct, because "Ascendant Sub and SubSub" is equal to"Moon Star and Sub".Thanking youGod Bless You!Shyam. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger . 7: Catch-up on your favourite Channel 7 TV shows easily, legally, and for free at PLUS7. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Dear Lajmi, When we were discussing about the subject RULE you kept quite for a while and coming back now for the same circle. Again and again we can’t spoon-feed!! the things as per your wish. Please see the URL given below which shows disproving subject BTR RULE. /message/31326 http://dir./message/30367 http://dir./message/30358 http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 30331 http://dir./message/30323 /message/28959 If necessary there are many other old messages available in the forum regarding disagreement for this RULE you can dig and find out yourself. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil --- On Mon, 2/22/10, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote: Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmiRe: Re: BTR Cc: "Senthil" <athi_ramMonday, February 22, 2010, 8:47 PM Dear Senthil, This is all "old hat" pl. privide your OWN FFRESH DATA IF ANY ELSE STOP DISCUSSING ENDLESSLY AND STUDY WHAT I HAVE SENT YOU AND COMMENT...THE LATEST EXAMPLE DISPROVE IT AND PROVE THAT IT IS WRONG IF YOU CAN...! Yogesh Lajmi Senthil <athi_ram Sent: Mon, 22 February, 2010 6:29:42 AMRe: Re: BTR Dear TinWin, Thanks for the reference & details. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil--- On Sun, 2/21/10, TW <tw853 > wrote: TW <tw853 > Re: BTR@gro ups.comSunday, February 21, 2010, 5:22 AM http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 30331?threaded= 1 & l=1http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 29134http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 30596?threaded= 1 & l=1http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 5493?threaded= 1 & l=1In File section of this Group Rectification Study A Study of Various Methodologies of Birth Time Rectification pandeypunit May 28, 2005Files > Rectification Study Name Size Creator Created AA Rated2Data Check by RP.txt AA rated data check by RP Method 13 KB kanbosastro Jun 4, 2005 aa-records1. txt AA Records for RP-based Rectification 5 KB ranga_mms May 30, 2005 aa-records1cheke by RP.txt Ruling Planets Technique Applied to AA Charts 10 KB kanbosastro May 30, 2005 aa-records2( +10Mnt)Check with RP Method.txt RP Checking with (+10Mnt. from AA Rated Data) Falsy data 14 KB kanbosastro Jun 12, 2005 aa-records2( -10Mnt)Check By RP Method.txt RP Checking with (-10Mnt. from AA Rated Data) Falsy data 13 KB kanbosastro Jun 7, 2005http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 18612?threaded= 1 & l=12. The controversy about what is the birth time will never be settled.-K.N. Rao: Timing of Events Through Vimshottari Dasha, 1996, in Preface to theSecond Editionhttp://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 30169?threaded= 1 & l=1@gro ups.com, SARA RAJU <saraus2001@. ..> wrote:>> Dear senthil,> I understood that you are not against the members but you are against the rules . So the responsbility you to prove the correct one as said by lajmiji and other senior memebers.> which one is right BTR method in KP? > Reg.,sara > > > > --- On Sat, 20/2/10, Senthil athi_ram wrote:> > Senthil athi_ram Re: Re: BTR> @gro ups.com> Saturday, 20 February, 2010, 7:10 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lajmi,>  > Members have already proved that the subject BTR is WRONG.>  > Please refer the URL given below & i have also given enough to disprove the RULE.>  > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 30331> >  > GOOD LUCK!!>  > D.Senthil> > --- On Fri, 2/19/10, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >> Re: Re: BTR> @gro ups.com> Cc: "Senthil" athi_ram >, "Punit Pandey" punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> Friday, February 19, 2010, 11:25 PM> > > > > > > > Dear Senthil,>                   You now have an opportunity to prove that this K.P. BTR rule is wrong...I have worked out the Exact TOB to be 01-14-30 AM,at Mumbai on 15/02/1946.. .>                   Can you accept the challenge and prove that the late M.P. Shanmugham's Rule is wrong... !>                   You have carried out a harangue against this rule in the past...here is a 'golden' opportunity. ..>                    Pl. don't let it slip away...so that all of us can improve/correct our knowledge of K.P.>                   With best wishes,>                    Yogesh Lajmi.>                   >                    > > > > > Senthil athi_ram >> @gro ups.com> Fri, 19 February, 2010 8:43:58 PM> Re: Re: BTR> >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shyam/Lajmi,> > >  > //Sir I sincerely request you to guide me whether this rectified BTR> is correct, because "Ascendant Sub and SubSub" is equal to> "Moon Star and Sub".//>  > How may times we can tell this rule is NOT ACCEPTED BY KP ASTROLOGERS/ REJECTED RULE. Please answer the queries raised by the members regarding the above rule before you make any statement. Till then there is no point in talking about this RULE.>  > > GOOD LUCK!!>  > D.Senthil> > --- On Thu, 2/18/10, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >> Re: BTR> "Shyam" shyam1051@rediffmai l.com>> Cc: @gro ups.com> Thursday, February 18, 2010, 6:10 AM> > >  > > > > Dear Shyam,>                    The Rectified TOB you have arrived at,is absolutely correct,upto the minute,as per K.P. Principles.. .>                   With best wishes,>                   Yogesh Lajmi.>                    > > > > > > Shyam shyam1051@rediffmai l.com>> yogeshlajmi@ > Thu, 18 February, 2010 3:08:01 PM> BTR> > Respected Sir,> Namaste!> > I am Unemployed since last 4.5 years (Since Oct 2005), I am not> getting a job due to my age (49 yrs) and I am handicapped due to> Arthritis (Pain in joints)(fingers, elbow,knees, hips affected)> > Presently I am under Rahu Dasa and Venus Bhukti> > The birth time recorded at the time of my birth was 13:20 hrs> > I have rectified my birth time and > > My RECTIFIED BIRTH TIME COMES TO : 13:11:38 hrs> > Name: Shyam> Date of Birth : 03-02-1961 ( 3rd Feb 1961 )> Time of Birth : 13:11:38 hrs ( 1:11:38 PM )> Place of Birth : Pune> > ------------ --------- ---------> --------- --------- --------- ---------> Ascendant Sublord and SubSublord are (Venus & Rahu) :-> > CUSP... DEGREE..... RAS-NAK-SUB- SS> 1...... 038-43-38.. VEN-SUN-VEN- RAH > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------> Moon Starlord and Sublord are (Venus & Rahu) :-> > PLANET... DEGREE.... RAS-NAK-SUB- SS... Ret/Dir> MOON... 138-41-38... SUN-VEN-RAH- SAT.. Direct > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------> > So now can I consider this birth time as rectified and correct BTR.> > Since now I am under Rahu Dasa and Venus Bhukti and Venus being in> the star of Saturn lord of 9th in my horoscope which has negated the> possibility of job.> > I am eagerly waiting for bhukti to change, and to know the approx> date of change of Bhukti from Venus to Sun I have done this BTR.> > Sir I sincerely request you to guide me whether this rectified> BTR> is correct, because "Ascendant Sub and SubSub" is equal to> "Moon Star and Sub".> > Thanking you> God Bless You!> Shyam.> > > > > > >  > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> 7: Catch-up on your favourite Channel 7 TV shows easily, legally, and for free at PLUS7. Check it out. 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Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Dear Friends,Again this debate is not heading anywhere and becoming repetitive. Let us put a full-stop to it and leave it to the individual's choice. Points from both the parties has been put up in detail, and members have enough material to decide by themselves. Also it would be good to have a look at revised forum policy once again - http://logy.astrosage.com/forum-constitution Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote:  Dear Ramani,                     At the risk of being repetitive,pl. remember the newborn begins to live " on its own " , from the moment of taking his 'first breath'...                     Therefore any time wrongly recorded,chances for which abound,needs to be corrected...!                      With best wishes,                       Yogesh Lajmi.                 kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani Mon, 22 February, 2010 6:23:33 AMRe: Re: BTR  Dear Sri Yogwshji.  My friend's Daughter-in- law was due for normal delivery (no complaint about her health or the child in her womb) on 8th ot 9th Febry.2010 this month. Relatives fearing for inauspicious birth star of the child (Kettai/Moolam) on the days expected for normal delivery, requested the hospital authorities to prepone the delivery by 'C' surgery on 7th inst. itself without caring for astrological implications. The Cessarian surgery was conducted on 7-2-2010 morning approx. at 8-30 AM and a girl child was delivered safely in Anuradha star Kumba Lagna. My opinion is that this is a case of voluntary change of date and it does not fall into normal case of delivery. Even if we do BTR whether it will be right in such cases. What is KP Rule for such advancing days by preponing the delivery intentionally. Can we treat it as normal delivery and analyse the chart. I am yet to get the details of birth stars of parents, brother of the child to verify the birth star and also chlld's father's lagna position to compare with the 9th House position of the child. Your comment please.  Regards,  K.S.V.Ramani   - Yogesh Lajmi @gro ups.com Cc: Senthil ; Punit Pandey Saturday, February 20, 2010 12:55 PM Re: Re: BTR  Dear Senthil,                   You now have an opportunity to prove that this K.P. BTR rule is wrong...I have worked out the Exact TOB to be 01-14-30 AM,at Mumbai on 15/02/1946...                   Can you accept the challenge and prove that the late M.P. Shanmugham's Rule is wrong... !                   You have carried out a harangue against this rule in the past...here is a 'golden' opportunity. ..                    Pl. don't let it slip away...so that all of us can improve/correct our knowledge of K.P.                   With best wishes,                    Yogesh Lajmi.                                      Senthil <athi_ram >@gro ups.com Fri, 19 February, 2010 8:43:58 PMRe: Re: BTR  Dear Shyam/Lajmi,  //Sir I sincerely request you to guide me whether this rectified BTRis correct, because " Ascendant Sub and SubSub " is equal to " Moon Star and Sub " .//  How may times we can tell this rule is NOT ACCEPTED BY KP ASTROLOGERS/ REJECTED RULE. Please answer the queries raised by the members regarding the above rule before you make any statement. Till then there is no point in talking about this RULE.  GOOD LUCK!!  D.Senthil--- On Thu, 2/18/10, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > Re: BTR " Shyam " <shyam1051@rediffmai l.com> Cc: @gro ups.comThursday, February 18, 2010, 6:10 AM  Dear Shyam,                    The Rectified TOB you have arrived at,is absolutely correct,upto the minute,as per K.P. Principles.. .                   With best wishes,                   Yogesh Lajmi.                    Shyam <shyam1051@rediffmai l.com>yogeshlajmi@ Thu, 18 February, 2010 3:08:01 PMBTRRespected Sir,Namaste!I am Unemployed since last 4.5 years (Since Oct 2005), I am not getting a job due to my age (49 yrs) and I am handicapped due toArthritis (Pain in joints)(fingers, elbow,knees, hips affected)Presently I am under Rahu Dasa and Venus BhuktiThe birth time recorded at the time of my birth was 13:20 hrs I have rectified my birth time and My RECTIFIED BIRTH TIME COMES TO : 13:11:38 hrsName: ShyamDate of Birth : 03-02-1961 ( 3rd Feb 1961 )Time of Birth : 13:11:38 hrs ( 1:11:38 PM )Place of Birth : Pune ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Ascendant Sublord and SubSublord are (Venus & Rahu) :-CUSP... DEGREE..... RAS-NAK-SUB- SS1...... 038-43-38.. VEN-SUN-VEN- RAH ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- Moon Starlord and Sublord are (Venus & Rahu) :-PLANET... DEGREE.... RAS-NAK-SUB- SS... Ret/DirMOON... 138-41-38... SUN-VEN-RAH- SAT.. Direct ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- So now can I consider this birth time as rectified and correct BTR.Since now I am under Rahu Dasa and Venus Bhukti and Venus being inthe star of Saturn lord of 9th in my horoscope which has negated the possibility of job.I am eagerly waiting for bhukti to change, and to know the approxdate of change of Bhukti from Venus to Sun I have done this BTR.Sir I sincerely request you to guide me whether this rectified BTRis correct, because " Ascendant Sub and SubSub " is equal to " Moon Star and Sub " .Thanking youGod Bless You!Shyam.  Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger . 7: Catch-up on your favourite Channel 7 TV shows easily, legally, and for free at PLUS7. 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Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 I totally agree with you. Satish--- On Tue, 2/23/10, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:Punit Pandey <punitpRe: Re: BTR Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 2:30 PM Dear Friends,Again this debate is not heading anywhere and becoming repetitive. Let us put a full-stop to it and leave it to the individual's choice. Points from both the parties has been put up in detail, and members have enough material to decide by themselves. Also it would be good to have a look at revised forum policy once again - http://logy. astrosage. com/forum- constitution Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: Dear Ramani, At the risk of being repetitive,pl. remember the newborn begins to live "on its own", from the moment of taking his 'first breath'... Therefore any time wrongly recorded,chances for which abound,needs to be corrected...! With best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com Mon, 22 February, 2010 6:23:33 AMRe: Re: BTR  Dear Sri Yogwshji. My friend's Daughter-in- law was due for normal delivery (no complaint about her health or the child in her womb) on 8th ot 9th Febry.2010 this month. Relatives fearing for inauspicious birth star of the child (Kettai/Moolam) on the days expected for normal delivery, requested the hospital authorities to prepone the delivery by 'C' surgery on 7th inst. itself without caring for astrological implications. The Cessarian surgery was conducted on 7-2-2010 morning approx. at 8-30 AM and a girl child was delivered safely in Anuradha star Kumba Lagna. My opinion is that this is a case of voluntary change of date and it does not fall into normal case of delivery. Even if we do BTR whether it will be right in such cases. What is KP Rule for such advancing days by preponing the delivery intentionally. Can we treat it as normal delivery and analyse the chart. I am yet to get the details of birth stars of parents, brother of the child to verify the birth star and also chlld's father's lagna position to compare with the 9th House position of the child. Your comment please. Regards, K.S.V.Ramani - Yogesh Lajmi @gro ups.com Cc: Senthil ; Punit Pandey Saturday, February 20, 2010 12:55 PM Re: Re: BTR Dear Senthil, You now have an opportunity to prove that this K.P. BTR rule is wrong...I have worked out the Exact TOB to be 01-14-30 AM,at Mumbai on 15/02/1946... Can you accept the challenge and prove that the late M.P. Shanmugham's Rule is wrong... ! You have carried out a harangue against this rule in the past...here is a 'golden' opportunity. .. Pl. don't let it slip away...so that all of us can improve/correct our knowledge of K.P. With best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. Senthil <athi_ram >@gro ups.com Fri, 19 February, 2010 8:43:58 PMRe: Re: BTR Dear Shyam/Lajmi, //Sir I sincerely request you to guide me whether this rectified BTRis correct, because "Ascendant Sub and SubSub" is equal to"Moon Star and Sub".// How may times we can tell this rule is NOT ACCEPTED BY KP ASTROLOGERS/ REJECTED RULE. Please answer the queries raised by the members regarding the above rule before you make any statement. Till then there is no point in talking about this RULE. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil--- On Thu, 2/18/10, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > Re: BTR"Shyam" <shyam1051@rediffmai l.com> Cc: @gro ups.comThursday, February 18, 2010, 6:10 AM Dear Shyam, The Rectified TOB you have arrived at,is absolutely correct,upto the minute,as per K.P. Principles.. . With best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. Shyam <shyam1051@rediffmai l.com>yogeshlajmi@ Thu, 18 February, 2010 3:08:01 PMBTRRespected Sir,Namaste!I am Unemployed since last 4.5 years (Since Oct 2005), I am not getting a job due to my age (49 yrs) and I am handicapped due toArthritis (Pain in joints)(fingers, elbow,knees, hips affected)Presently I am under Rahu Dasa and Venus BhuktiThe birth time recorded at the time of my birth was 13:20 hrs I have rectified my birth time and My RECTIFIED BIRTH TIME COMES TO : 13:11:38 hrsName: ShyamDate of Birth : 03-02-1961 ( 3rd Feb 1961 )Time of Birth : 13:11:38 hrs ( 1:11:38 PM )Place of Birth : Pune ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Ascendant Sublord and SubSublord are (Venus & Rahu) :-CUSP... DEGREE..... RAS-NAK-SUB- SS1...... 038-43-38.. VEN-SUN-VEN- RAH ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- Moon Starlord and Sublord are (Venus & Rahu) :-PLANET... DEGREE.... RAS-NAK-SUB- SS... Ret/DirMOON... 138-41-38... SUN-VEN-RAH- SAT.. Direct ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- So now can I consider this birth time as rectified and correct BTR.Since now I am under Rahu Dasa and Venus Bhukti and Venus being inthe star of Saturn lord of 9th in my horoscope which has negated the possibility of job.I am eagerly waiting for bhukti to change, and to know the approxdate of change of Bhukti from Venus to Sun I have done this BTR.Sir I sincerely request you to guide me whether this rectified BTRis correct, because "Ascendant Sub and SubSub" is equal to"Moon Star and Sub".Thanking youGod Bless You!Shyam. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger . 7: Catch-up on your favourite Channel 7 TV shows easily, legally, and for free at PLUS7. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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