URGENT - Kidnapped

February 22, 2010

22 Feb 2010

Dear all

Can anybody please tell me the KP formula for the below

question:

MY younger brother has been kidnapped? When would he return

home? Do we have to pay any ransom?

Regards

RG

February 22, 2010

Dear Mr. Ravinder,

For fulfilment of your wish of reuniting with your younger brother, meditate on this question and think of a random number between 1 to 249, which comes to your mind. Draft a Prashna Kundali of the number at the place and time when you sit for solving the query. First of all check the position of moon to ascertain if the position reflects the querist mind. If so then check the sub lord of 11 th house. If it is a strong significator of 3rd house, or 1st house, then your brother may return. To check when he will return, see the dasha, antardasha and transits of significator planets. If the sub lord of 11th happend to be naturally malefic planets, probably you may have to pay the ransom.

Regards.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Ravinder Grover <rgrover wrote:

22 Feb 2010

Dear all

Can anybody please tell me the KP formula for the below question:

MY younger brother has been kidnapped? When would he return home? Do we have to pay any ransom?

Regards

RG

February 22, 2010

A similar question have been posted by RG ji on 30th June 2006, under

/message/8643

But up to now no successful rule have been introduced by any member for "KIDNAP"Kidnap = to steal ( a Child), abduct ( a person)Return of Missing Son - 6th Reader Page 309, will help for clue.And /message/15915may be helpful.KalyanRavinder Grover <rgrover Sent: Sun, 21 February, 2010 9:10:08 PM URGENT - Kidnapped

22 Feb 2010 Dear all Can anybody please tell me the KP formula for the below

question: MY younger brother has been kidnapped? When would he return

home? Do we have to pay any ransom? Regards RG

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February 24, 2010

Missing Person:

Consider the 3rd, the 9th, and the 12th for the missing person (counting from

his Ascendant), and the 2nd, 8th, and 11th (being 12th to the 3rd, 9th, and

12th) for the person to return home.

Astrologically yours

Wyomesh

, " Ravinder Grover " <rgrover wrote:

>

> 22 Feb 2010

>

> Dear all

>

> Can anybody please tell me the KP formula for the below question:

>

> MY younger brother has been kidnapped? When would he return home? Do we

> have to pay any ransom?

>

> Regards

>

> RG

>

February 24, 2010

Dear friends

Mr. Ravinder is well versed kp astrologer and he knew very well how to

prepare prasna kundli or horary. What he expects is that whether particular

rule can be formed for kidnappning.

With regards

Vijayanand Patil, Kolhapur, Maharashtra

Cell nO.+91 9673746303/+91 9422582853

, Satish korabu <satish.korabu wrote:

>

> Dear Mr. Ravinder,

>

> For fulfilment of your wish of reuniting with your younger brother, meditate

> on this question and think of a random number between 1 to 249, which comes

> to your mind. Draft a Prashna Kundali of the number at the place and time

> when you sit for solving the query. First of all check the position of moon

> to ascertain if the position reflects the querist mind. If so then check the

> sub lord of 11 th house. If it is a strong significator of 3rd house, or 1st

> house, then your brother may return. To check when he will return, see the

> dasha, antardasha and transits of significator planets. If the sub lord of

> 11th happend to be naturally malefic planets, probably you may have to pay

> the ransom.

>

> Regards.

>

> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Ravinder Grover <rgroverwrote:

>

> >

> > 22 Feb 2010

> >

> > Dear all

> >

> > Can anybody please tell me the KP formula for the below question:

> >

> > MY younger brother has been kidnapped? When would he return home? Do we

> > have to pay any ransom?

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > RG

> >

>

February 25, 2010

Dear Ravinder,

First cast the Horary chart...and if the missing person is a stranger,take the sub-lord of the IXth Cusp and analyse aas follows...

If the s/l of the Lagna of the missing person is connected to the VIth,he is unwell,of VIII,he is injured in an accident,of XIII,he is in some Hosptal,if VII & XII,both in Maraksthana or Badhakasthana,

then he is surely dead,if in fiery sign,he has received injuries and succumbed to them,if in a watery sign he has drowned,if in an earthy sign he will have died a natural death,if the XIth,the Police will be of help in tracing him,if II & IV,he has already returned home,If the s/l of the Horary Lagna is in direct motion and in a planet also in direct motion,and signifies II,III,IV & XI,counted from the lagna of the missing person,he will get back for certain... and so on...

Readers are referred to the recent article,by Mr.Pankaj Himvan, on this subject,in the recently released ...K.P & Astrology,Annual 2010.Pp.46-49.

With the very best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

GOOD LUCK !

guide <guide_vijayanand Sent: Wed, 24 February, 2010 4:59:43 PM Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

Dear friendsMr. Ravinder is well versed kp astrologer and he knew very well how to prepare prasna kundli or horary. What he expects is that whether particular rule can be formed for kidnappning. With regardsVijayanand Patil, Kolhapur, MaharashtraCell nO.+91 9673746303/+ 91 9422582853@gro ups.com, Satish korabu <satish.korabu@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Mr. Ravinder,> > For fulfilment of your wish of reuniting with your younger brother, meditate> on this question and think of a random number between 1 to 249, which comes> to your mind. Draft a Prashna Kundali of the number at the place and time> when you sit for solving the query. First of all check the position of moon> to ascertain if the position reflects the querist mind. If so

then check the> sub lord of 11 th house. If it is a strong significator of 3rd house, or 1st> house, then your brother may return. To check when he will return, see the> dasha, antardasha and transits of significator planets. If the sub lord of> 11th happend to be naturally malefic planets, probably you may have to pay> the ransom.> > Regards.> > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Ravinder Grover <rgrover >wrote:> > >> >> > 22 Feb 2010> >> >> >> > Dear all> >> >> >> > Can anybody please tell me the KP formula for the below question:> >> >> >> >> >> > MY younger brother has been kidnapped? When would he return home? Do we> > have to pay any ransom?> >> >> >>

>> >> > Regards> >> >> >> > RG> >> >> >> > > >>

February 25, 2010

Dear Ravinder,

As the kidnapped/missing person is a stranger you should take the IXcusp of the Horary chart as Lagna of the Kidnapped person for purposes of Judgement...( the Lagna of the Horary Chart will represent you yourself...).

This is my humble suggestion...

Yogesh Lajmi.

Ravinder Grover <rgroverYogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmiThu, 25 February, 2010 12:15:15 PMRE: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

25 Feb 2010

Dear Yogesh ji, Vijanand ji and others

Many thanks for your kind info.

In fact I was asked this question by somebody from New Delhi.

I casted the chart on 22 Feb 2010, 18:00 hours, Auckland, New Zealand, NZDST for KP 7 (1-249)

My analysis was as follows:

1. Lagna rising for KP7 Ã¨ R(1) 7-33-20 = Mars R, Ketu, Jup c

2. Younger brother, Take Lagna as cusp 3.

3. Hence, SLC(1) = Rahu in Ven/Merc

a. Rahu signifies (9,7,12-5)

b. Ven signifies (7,9,12-5), Ven with Jup S(7,8,7-10), with Sun S(7,8,3)

c. Merc S(1,8,12-6,1-4)

4. Maarkesh and Bhaadhkesh houses for R(3) are (2,7), hence S(2,7) = (Sun, 2Jup c, Ven, Rahu, 2Mon, Ketu)

5. SLC(1) is in S(2,7) strongly hence it seems to me that the person might be killed. I thought H(3) signifies some negotiation.

6. I did not consider DBAS as I was expecting some the event to happen soon.

7. The person who asked question, letâ€™s look at her Cusp(11), SLC(11) = Ketu in Jup C/Merc. Ketu S(10,3,9-12), Jup is combust to Ketu would lose some power for being in the star of combust planet, Jup S(9,10,9-12) which shoes some â€˜out of courtâ€™ or â€˜direct negotiation with the kidnapper. (I may be wrong). Merc S(3,10,1-8,3-6) S(12) can be atken as expenditure for ransom too,

8. I think either Rahu or Jup need to be moved to the sensitive point to get some result.

I did the above chart with anther method also on 21 Feb 2010, 21:33:23 hours, NZDST, AKL, NZ too, which I am not putting down here. Dome remedies were suggest to the native.

I am looking forward for some commebts from the experts to help me with analysis.

Yogesh Lajmi [yogeshlajmi] Thursday, February 25, 2010 7:11 PM Cc: Ravinder Grover; VIJAYANAND PATILRe: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

Dear Ravinder,

First cast the Horary chart...and if the missing person is a stranger,take the sub-lord of the IXth Cusp and analyse aas follows...

If the s/l of the Lagna of the missing person is connected to the VIth,he is unwell,of VIII,he is injured in an accident,of XIII,he is in some Hosptal,if VII & XII,both in Maraksthana or Badhakasthana,

then he is surely dead,if in fiery sign,he has received injuries and succumbed to them,if in a watery sign he has drowned,if in an earthy sign he will have died a natural death,if the XIth,the Police will be of help in tracing him,if II & IV,he has already returned home,If the s/l of the Horary Lagna is in direct motion and in a planet also in direct motion,and signifies II,III,IV & XI,counted from the lagna of the missing person,he will get back for certain... and so on...

Readers are referred to the recent article,by Mr.Pankaj Himvan, on this subject,in the recently released ...K.P & Astrology,Annual 2010.Pp.46-49.

With the very best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

GOOD LUCK !

guide <guide_vijayanand Sent: Wed, 24 February, 2010 4:59:43 PM Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

Dear friendsMr. Ravinder is well versed kp astrologer and he knew very well how to prepare prasna kundli or horary. What he expects is that whether particular rule can be formed for kidnappning. With regardsVijayanand Patil, Kolhapur, MaharashtraCell nO.+91 9673746303/+ 91 9422582853@gro ups.com, Satish korabu <satish.korabu@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Mr. Ravinder,> > For fulfilment of your wish of reuniting with your younger brother, meditate> on this question and think of a random number between 1 to 249, which comes> to your mind. Draft a Prashna Kundali of the number at the place and time> when you sit for solving the query. First of all check the position of moon> to ascertain if the position

reflects the querist mind. If so then check the> sub lord of 11 th house. If it is a strong significator of 3rd house, or 1st> house, then your brother may return. To check when he will return, see the> dasha, antardasha and transits of significator planets. If the sub lord of> 11th happend to be naturally malefic planets, probably you may have to pay> the ransom.> > Regards.> > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Ravinder Grover <rgrover >wrote:> > >> >> > 22 Feb 2010> >> >> >> > Dear all> >> >> >> > Can anybody please tell me the KP formula for the below question:> >> >> >> >> >> > MY younger brother has been kidnapped? When would he return home? Do we> > have to pay any ransom?>

>> >> >> >> >> > Regards> >> >> >> > RG> >> >> >> > > >>

February 25, 2010

Dear Wyomesh

Plese tell cleary that which is primary cusp & associated RULE(s) for more clarity & better understanding.

GOOD LUCK!!

D.Senthil

--- On Wed, 2/24/10, Wyomesh <wyomeshd wrote:

Wyomesh <wyomeshd Re: URGENT - Kidnapped Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 3:27 AM

Missing Person:Consider the 3rd, the 9th, and the 12th for the missing person (counting from his Ascendant), and the 2nd, 8th, and 11th (being 12th to the 3rd, 9th, and 12th) for the person to return home.Astrologically yoursWyomesh@gro ups.com, "Ravinder Grover" <rgrover > wrote:>> 22 Feb 2010> > > > Dear all> > > > Can anybody please tell me the KP formula for the below question:> > > > > > MY younger brother has been kidnapped? When would he return home? Do we> have to pay any ransom?> > > > > > Regards> > > >

RG>

February 25, 2010

Dear RavinderA friends daughter had run away to her b-friend. I had judged no 30 on 1-5-98 at 4 pm at chandigarh, taking 5th as Lagna. She was found on 6-5-98 and taken to psychatrist and kept there 28-5-98See if this will help u.If we judge the friends query,as taurus as asc. then dba indicated 11th and 4th housesRegardsSujata--- On Thu, 25/2/10, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote:Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmiRe: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped Cc: "Ravinder Grover" <rgrover, "VIJAYANAND PATIL" <guide_vijayanandThursday, 25 February, 2010, 11:41

AM

Dear Ravinder,

First cast the Horary chart...and if the missing person is a stranger,take the sub-lord of the IXth Cusp and analyse aas follows...

If the s/l of the Lagna of the missing person is connected to the VIth,he is unwell,of VIII,he is injured in an accident,of XIII,he is in some Hosptal,if VII & XII,both in Maraksthana or Badhakasthana,

then he is surely dead,if in fiery sign,he has received injuries and succumbed to them,if in a watery sign he has drowned,if in an earthy sign he will have died a natural death,if the XIth,the Police will be of help in tracing him,if II & IV,he has already returned home,If the s/l of the Horary Lagna is in direct motion and in a planet also in direct motion,and signifies II,III,IV & XI,counted from the lagna of the missing person,he will get back for certain... and so on...

Readers are referred to the recent article,by Mr.Pankaj Himvan, on this subject,in the recently released ...K.P & Astrology,Annual 2010.Pp.46-49.

With the very best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

GOOD LUCK !

guide <guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com>@gro ups.comWed, 24 February, 2010 4:59:43 PM Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

Dear friendsMr. Ravinder is well versed kp astrologer and he knew very well how to prepare prasna kundli or horary. What he expects is that whether particular rule can be formed for kidnappning. With regardsVijayanand Patil, Kolhapur, MaharashtraCell nO.+91 9673746303/+ 91 9422582853@gro ups.com, Satish korabu <satish.korabu@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Mr. Ravinder,> > For fulfilment of your wish of reuniting with your younger brother, meditate> on this question and think of a random number between 1 to 249, which comes> to your mind. Draft a Prashna Kundali of the number at the place and time> when you sit for solving the query. First of all check the position of moon> to ascertain if the position reflects the querist

mind. If so

then check the> sub lord of 11 th house. If it is a strong significator of 3rd house, or 1st> house, then your brother may return. To check when he will return, see the> dasha, antardasha and transits of significator planets. If the sub lord of> 11th happend to be naturally malefic planets, probably you may have to pay> the ransom.> > Regards.> > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Ravinder Grover <rgrover >wrote:> > >> >> > 22 Feb 2010> >> >> >> > Dear all> >> >> >> > Can anybody please tell me the KP formula for the below question:> >> >> >> >> >> > MY younger brother has been kidnapped? When would he return home? Do we> > have to pay any ransom?> >> >> >>

>> >> > Regards> >> >> >> > RG> >> >> >> > > >>

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February 25, 2010

I found ur rule good in 1 case.. What is the justification of 8th House for returning --- On Wed, 24/2/10, Wyomesh <wyomeshd wrote:Wyomesh <wyomeshd Re: URGENT - Kidnapped Date: Wednesday, 24 February, 2010, 4:57 PM

Missing Person:

Consider the 3rd, the 9th, and the 12th for the missing person (counting from his Ascendant), and the 2nd, 8th, and 11th (being 12th to the 3rd, 9th, and 12th) for the person to return home.

Astrologically yours

Wyomesh

@gro ups.com, "Ravinder Grover" <rgrover > wrote:

>

> 22 Feb 2010

>

> Dear all

>

> Can anybody please tell me the KP formula for the below question:

>

> MY younger brother has been kidnapped? When would he return home? Do we

> have to pay any ransom?

>

> Regards

>

> RG

>

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February 25, 2010

Dear Sujata ji

Many thanks for your kindness.

I will indeed go through this chart and get back to the list.

Thanks

RG

On Behalf Of sujata

das

Friday, February 26, 2010 1:13 AM

Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

Dear Ravinder

A friends daughter had run away to her b-friend. I had judged no 30 on 1-5-98

at 4 pm at chandigarh, taking 5th as Lagna. She was found on 6-5-98 and

taken to psychatrist and kept there 28-5-98

See if this will help u.

If we judge the friends query,as taurus as asc. then dba indicated 11th

and 4th houses

Regards

Sujata

--- On Thu, 25/2/10, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi

wrote:

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi

Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

Cc: " Ravinder Grover " <rgrover, " VIJAYANAND

PATIL " <guide_vijayanand

Thursday, 25 February, 2010, 11:41 AM

Dear Ravinder,

First cast the Horary chart...and if the missing person is a stranger,take

the sub-lord of the IXth Cusp and analyse aas follows...

If the s/l of the Lagna of the missing person is connected to the VIth,he is

unwell,of VIII,he is injured in an accident,of XIII,he is in some Hosptal,if

VII & XII,both in Maraksthana or Badhakasthana,

then he is surely dead,if in fiery sign,he has received

injuries and succumbed to them,if in a watery sign he has drowned,if in an

earthy sign he will have died a natural death,if the XIth,the Police will be

of help in tracing him,if II & IV,he has already returned home,If the s/l

of the Horary Lagna is in direct motion and in a planet also in direct

motion,and signifies II,III,IV & XI,counted from the lagna of the

missing person,he will get back for certain... and so on...

Readers are referred to the recent article,by Mr.Pankaj Himvan, on this

subject,in the recently released ...K.P &

Astrology,Annual 2010.Pp.46-49.

With the very best wishes,

Yogesh

Lajmi.

GOOD LUCK !

guide

<guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com>

@gro ups.com

Wed, 24 February, 2010 4:59:43 PM

Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

Dear friends

Mr. Ravinder is well versed kp astrologer and he knew very well how to

prepare prasna kundli or horary. What he expects is that whether particular

rule can be formed for kidnappning.

With regards

Vijayanand Patil, Kolhapur, Maharashtra

Cell nO.+91 9673746303/+ 91 9422582853

@gro

ups.com, Satish korabu <satish.korabu@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Mr. Ravinder,

>

> For fulfilment of your wish of reuniting with your younger brother,

meditate

> on this question and think of a random number between 1 to 249, which

comes

> to your mind. Draft a Prashna Kundali of the number at the place and

time

> when you sit for solving the query. First of all check the position of

moon

> to ascertain if the position reflects the querist mind. If so then check

the

> sub lord of 11 th house. If it is a strong significator of 3rd house, or

1st

> house, then your brother may return. To check when he will return, see

the

> dasha, antardasha and transits of significator planets. If the sub lord

of

> 11th happend to be naturally malefic planets, probably you may have to

pay

> the ransom.

>

> Regards.

>

> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Ravinder Grover <rgrover

>wrote:

>

> >

> > 22 Feb 2010

> >

> > Dear all

> >

> > Can anybody please tell me the KP formula for the below question:

> >

> > MY younger brother has been kidnapped? When would he return home?

Do we

> > have to pay any ransom?

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > RG

> >

>

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February 26, 2010

26 Feb 2010

Dear Sujata

I tried casting the chart on the above data.

For friend, Lagna was R(2) 11-6-40=Ven, Sun, Mars

SLC(1)= Mars in Ven/Rahu

Mars signified (11,12,6,3,12) Ã¨Â (desire,

confinement, â€¦)

Ven S(12,11,10,11,1,6) Ã¨ (confinement, desire,

advantage, ..)

Rahu S(11,4,1,6) Ã¨ desire, family-home, etc

Rule: If SLC(1) signifies for return S(2,3,4,11) Ã¨ it

agrees

Â

But should not I check S(2,3,4,11) fro the daughter, from H(5)Â Not from

Lagna of the querent?

SLC(11) = Merc â€“ Merc/Ven

MErc S(11,11,2,3,2,3) Ã¨ desire fulfillment, family,

etc

VenÂ => as above

Merc is a fast moving planet, so one can expect result fast

Merc in Dual sign, R(12).Â

Rule isÂ IF Sub Lord Cusp(11) is FAST moving

planet and in Common sign, R(3,6,9,12)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â THEN

the matter will fructify in few months. Hence Move Sun

On 28

May 1998, Tr Sun was at R(1)21-39-19 = Mars, Ven, JupÂ Ã¨ signifying H(11) strongly

But my

question is sometimes DBA may not agree with the significtaors

Please tell me your calculations so that I can learn from you

Sujata ji.

Thanks

Rg

On Behalf Of sujata

das

Friday, February 26, 2010 1:13 AM

Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

Dear Ravinder

A friends daughter had run away to her b-friend. I had judged no 30 on 1-5-98

at 4 pm at chandigarh, taking 5th as Lagna. She was found on 6-5-98 and

taken to psychatrist and kept there 28-5-98

See if this will help u.

If we judge the friends query,as taurus as asc. then dba indicated 11th

and 4th houses

Regards

Sujata

--- On Thu, 25/2/10, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi

wrote:

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi

Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

Cc: " Ravinder Grover " <rgrover,

" VIJAYANAND PATIL " <guide_vijayanand

Thursday, 25 February, 2010, 11:41 AM

Dear Ravinder,

First cast the Horary chart...and if the missing person is a stranger,take

the sub-lord of the IXth Cusp and analyse aas follows...

If the s/l of the Lagna of the missing person is connected to the VIth,he is

unwell,of VIII,he is injured in an accident,of XIII,he is in some Hosptal,if

VII & XII,both in Maraksthana or Badhakasthana,

then he is surely dead,if in fiery sign,he has received

injuries and succumbed to them,if in a watery sign he has drowned,if in an

earthy sign he will have died a natural death,if the XIth,the Police will be

of help in tracing him,if II & IV,he has already returned home,If the s/l

of the Horary Lagna is in direct motion and in a planet also in direct

motion,and signifies II,III,IV & XI,counted from the lagna of the

missing person,he will get back for certain... and so on...

Readers are referred to the recent article,by Mr.Pankaj Himvan, on this

subject,in the recently released ...K.P &

Astrology,Annual 2010.Pp.46-49.

With the very best wishes,

Yogesh

Lajmi.

GOOD LUCK !

guide

<guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com>

@gro ups.com

Wed, 24 February, 2010 4:59:43 PM

Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

Dear friends

Mr. Ravinder is well versed kp astrologer and he knew very well how to

prepare prasna kundli or horary. What he expects is that whether particular

rule can be formed for kidnappning.

With regards

Vijayanand Patil, Kolhapur, Maharashtra

Cell nO.+91 9673746303/+ 91 9422582853

@gro

ups.com, Satish korabu <satish.korabu@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Mr. Ravinder,

>

> For fulfilment of your wish of reuniting with your younger brother,

meditate

> on this question and think of a random number between 1 to 249, which

comes

> to your mind. Draft a Prashna Kundali of the number at the place and

time

> when you sit for solving the query. First of all check the position of

moon

> to ascertain if the position reflects the querist mind. If so then check

the

> sub lord of 11 th house. If it is a strong significator of 3rd house, or

1st

> house, then your brother may return. To check when he will return, see

the

> dasha, antardasha and transits of significator planets. If the sub lord

of

> 11th happend to be naturally malefic planets, probably you may have to

pay

> the ransom.

>

> Regards.

>

> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Ravinder Grover <rgrover >wrote:

>

> >

> > 22 Feb 2010

> >

> > Dear all

> >

> > Can anybody please tell me the KP formula for the below question:

> >

> > MY younger brother has been kidnapped? When would he return home?

Do we

> > have to pay any ransom?

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > RG

> >

>

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February 26, 2010

12th to (3,9,12)

On Behalf Of sujata das

Friday, February 26, 2010 8:05 AM

Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

I found ur rule good in 1 case.. What is the justification

of 8th House for returning

--- On Wed, 24/2/10, Wyomesh <wyomeshd wrote:

Wyomesh <wyomeshd

Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

Wednesday, 24 February, 2010, 4:57 PM

Missing Person:

Consider the 3rd, the 9th, and the 12th for the missing person (counting from

his Ascendant), and the 2nd, 8th, and 11th (being 12th to the 3rd, 9th, and

12th) for the person to return home.

Astrologically yours

Wyomesh

@gro

ups.com, " Ravinder Grover " <rgrover > wrote:

>

> 22 Feb 2010

>

> Dear all

>

> Can anybody please tell me the KP formula for the below question:

>

> MY younger brother has been kidnapped? When would he return home? Do we

> have to pay any ransom?

>

> Regards

>

> RG

>

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February 26, 2010

9th house is for long journey, is it OK? The missing person has made a long journey and hence he is expected to be at a far off place. If we consider the 12th to 9th to negate the house maters, the missing person stops but cannot reach home back. He has to travel back again to be at home. Hence 8th house may not be significant in such a case. In KP, the 7th house indictes break of journey. So 7th makes him to stop and again the 3rd and/or 9th throws hin to further move forward or backward. Hope I am not mis-understood.

Dr. Rath

Ravinder Grover <rgrover Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 10:37:02 AMRE: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

12th to (3,9,12)

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I found ur rule good in 1 case.. What is the justification of 8th House for returning --- On Wed, 24/2/10, Wyomesh <wyomeshd > wrote:

Wyomesh <wyomeshd > Re: URGENT - Kidnapped@gro ups.comWednesday, 24 February, 2010, 4:57 PM

Missing Person:Consider the 3rd, the 9th, and the 12th for the missing person (counting from his Ascendant), and the 2nd, 8th, and 11th (being 12th to the 3rd, 9th, and 12th) for the person to return home.Astrologically yoursWyomesh@gro ups.com, "Ravinder Grover" <rgrover > wrote:>> 22 Feb 2010> > > > Dear all> > > > Can anybody please tell me the KP formula for the below question:> > > > > > MY younger brother has been kidnapped? When would he return home? Do we> have to pay any ransom?> > > > > > Regards> > > > RG>

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Dear Sirs,I have same such opinion.3 is 12 to 4. hence leaving home is ok.But to return home 2 can not be taken just because of it is 12 to 3. 2 indicates joining the family. hence it can be considered.

But to return home 4,11 must be required .It is exactly like when the person from abraod will return home . As Dr. Rath says 9 is required to travel for long even to return and 4,11 is required instead of 12.

Also as one leaves the present location 3 is required. To join the family 2 and or 7 is required along with 11.Hence majorly 12 or 11 makes the difference..these are my humble opinion.With Regards

AdithOn Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:

9th house is for long journey, is it OK? The missing person has made a long journey and hence he is expected to be at a far off place. If we consider the 12th to 9th to negate the house maters, the missing person stops but cannot reach home back. He has to travel back again to be at home. Hence 8th house may not be significant in such a case. In KP, the 7th house indictes break of journey. So 7th makes him to stop and again the 3rd and/or 9th throws hin to further move forward or backward. Hope I am not mis-understood.

Dr. Rath

Ravinder Grover <rgrover

Fri, February 26, 2010 10:37:02 AMRE: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

12th to (3,9,12)

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Friday, February 26, 2010 8:05 AM@gro ups.comRe: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

I found ur rule good in 1 case.. What is the justification of 8th House for returning --- On Wed, 24/2/10, Wyomesh <wyomeshd > wrote:

Wyomesh <wyomeshd > Re: URGENT - Kidnapped@gro ups.com

Wednesday, 24 February, 2010, 4:57 PM

Missing Person:Consider the 3rd, the 9th, and the 12th for the missing person (counting from his Ascendant), and the 2nd, 8th, and 11th (being 12th to the 3rd, 9th, and 12th) for the person to return home.

Astrologically yoursWyomesh@gro ups.com, " Ravinder Grover " <rgrover > wrote:>> 22 Feb 2010> > > > Dear all

> > > > Can anybody please tell me the KP formula for the below question:> > > > > > MY younger brother has been kidnapped? When would he return home? Do we

> have to pay any ransom?> > > > > > Regards> > > > RG>

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27 Feb 2010

Dear Sir

Thanks for your guidance and expertise advise.

Till today we have no news about the kidnapped people.

Thanks

RG

On Behalf Of Luther

Rath

Saturday, February 27, 2010 1:14 AM

Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

9th house is for long journey, is it OK? The missing person

has made a long journey and hence he is expected to be at a far off place. If

we consider the 12th to 9th to negate the house maters, the missing person

stops but cannot reach home back. He has to travel back again to be at home.

Hence 8th house may not be significant in such a case. In KP, the 7th house

indictes break of journey. So 7th makes him to stop and again the 3rd and/or

9th throws hin to further move forward or backward. Hope I am not

mis-understood.

Dr. Rath

Ravinder Grover

<rgrover

Fri, February 26, 2010 10:37:02 AM

RE: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

12th to (3,9,12)

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Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

I

found ur rule good in 1 case.. What is the justification of 8th House for

returning

--- On Wed, 24/2/10, Wyomesh <wyomeshd > wrote:

Wyomesh <wyomeshd >

Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

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Wednesday, 24 February, 2010, 4:57 PM

Missing Person:

Consider the 3rd, the 9th, and the 12th for the missing person (counting from

his Ascendant), and the 2nd, 8th, and 11th (being 12th to the 3rd, 9th, and

12th) for the person to return home.

Astrologically yours

Wyomesh

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<rgrover > wrote:

>

> 22 Feb 2010

>

> Dear all

>

> Can anybody please tell me the KP formula for the below question:

>

> MY younger brother has been kidnapped? When would he return home? Do we

> have to pay any ransom?

>

> Regards

>

> RG

>

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The query is from a lady in Delhi. She gives the horary number 7. Her query was "My younger brother has been kidnaped. When would he return home? -------"

So the Ascendant in the chart cast for Horary No. 7 is the Lagna for the lady. Thus the 3 cusp shall be the Ascendant for the kidnaped brother. Therefore the study should begin from the sub-lord of 3rd cusp.

This is what that runs in my mind.

Dr. Rath

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmiRavinder Grover <rgrover; Cc: VIJAYANAND PATIL <guide_vijayanandThu, February 25, 2010 12:58:04 PMRe: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

Dear Ravinder,

As the kidnapped/missing person is a stranger you should take the IXcusp of the Horary chart as Lagna of the Kidnapped person for purposes of Judgement... ( the Lagna of the Horary Chart will represent you yourself...) .

This is my humble suggestion.. .

Yogesh Lajmi.

Ravinder Grover <rgrover (AT) xtra (DOT) co.nz>Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >Thu, 25 February, 2010 12:15:15 PMRE: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

25 Feb 2010

Dear Yogesh ji, Vijanand ji and others

Many thanks for your kind info.

In fact I was asked this question by somebody from New Delhi.

I casted the chart on 22 Feb 2010, 18:00 hours, Auckland, New Zealand, NZDST for KP 7 (1-249)

My analysis was as follows:

1. Lagna rising for KP7 Ã¨ R(1) 7-33-20 = Mars R, Ketu, Jup c

2. Younger brother, Take Lagna as cusp 3.

3. Hence, SLC(1) = Rahu in Ven/Merc

a. Rahu signifies (9,7,12-5)

b. Ven signifies (7,9,12-5), Ven with Jup S(7,8,7-10), with Sun S(7,8,3)

c. Merc S(1,8,12-6,1- 4)

4. Maarkesh and Bhaadhkesh houses for R(3) are (2,7), hence S(2,7) = (Sun, 2Jup c, Ven, Rahu, 2Mon, Ketu)

5. SLC(1) is in S(2,7) strongly hence it seems to me that the person might be killed. I thought H(3) signifies some negotiation.

6. I did not consider DBAS as I was expecting some the event to happen soon.

7. The person who asked question, letâ€™s look at her Cusp(11), SLC(11) = Ketu in Jup C/Merc. Ketu S(10,3,9-12) , Jup is combust to Ketu would lose some power for being in the star of combust planet, Jup S(9,10,9-12) which shoes some â€˜out of courtâ€™ or â€˜direct negotiation with the kidnapper. (I may be wrong). Merc S(3,10,1-8,3- 6) S(12) can be atken as expenditure for ransom too,

8. I think either Rahu or Jup need to be moved to the sensitive point to get some result.

I did the above chart with anther method also on 21 Feb 2010, 21:33:23 hours, NZDST, AKL, NZ too, which I am not putting down here. Dome remedies were suggest to the native.

I am looking forward for some commebts from the experts to help me with analysis.

Yogesh Lajmi [yogeshlajmi @] Thursday, February 25, 2010 7:11 PM@gro ups.comCc: Ravinder Grover; VIJAYANAND PATILRe: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

Dear Ravinder,

First cast the Horary chart...and if the missing person is a stranger,take the sub-lord of the IXth Cusp and analyse aas follows...

If the s/l of the Lagna of the missing person is connected to the VIth,he is unwell,of VIII,he is injured in an accident,of XIII,he is in some Hosptal,if VII & XII,both in Maraksthana or Badhakasthana,

then he is surely dead,if in fiery sign,he has received injuries and succumbed to them,if in a watery sign he has drowned,if in an earthy sign he will have died a natural death,if the XIth,the Police will be of help in tracing him,if II & IV,he has already returned home,If the s/l of the Horary Lagna is in direct motion and in a planet also in direct motion,and signifies II,III,IV & XI,counted from the lagna of the missing person,he will get back for certain... and so on...

Readers are referred to the recent article,by Mr.Pankaj Himvan, on this subject,in the recently released ...K.P & Astrology,Annual 2010.Pp.46-49.

With the very best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

GOOD LUCK !

guide <guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com>@gro ups.comWed, 24 February, 2010 4:59:43 PM Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

Dear friendsMr. Ravinder is well versed kp astrologer and he knew very well how to prepare prasna kundli or horary. What he expects is that whether particular rule can be formed for kidnappning. With regardsVijayanand Patil, Kolhapur, MaharashtraCell nO.+91 9673746303/+ 91 9422582853@gro ups.com, Satish korabu <satish.korabu@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Mr. Ravinder,> > For fulfilment of your wish of reuniting with your younger brother, meditate> on this question and think of a random number between 1 to 249, which comes> to your mind. Draft a Prashna Kundali of the number at the place and time> when you sit for solving the query. First of all check the position of moon> to ascertain if the position reflects the querist mind. If so

then check the> sub lord of 11 th house. If it is a strong significator of 3rd house, or 1st> house, then your brother may return. To check when he will return, see the> dasha, antardasha and transits of significator planets. If the sub lord of> 11th happend to be naturally malefic planets, probably you may have to pay> the ransom.> > Regards.> > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Ravinder Grover <rgrover >wrote:> > >> >> > 22 Feb 2010> >> >> >> > Dear all> >> >> >> > Can anybody please tell me the KP formula for the below question:> >> >> >> >> >> > MY younger brother has been kidnapped? When would he return home? Do we> > have to pay any ransom?> >> >> >>

>> >> > Regards> >> >> >> > RG> >> >> >> > > >>

February 27, 2010

Dear Ravinderji,

Your messages are worth going through and and they do throw light on various aspects of astrology. You are great.

Since how long the person is missing? Is he alive? When he is likely to return?

Are you reading his horoscope or a Horary?

In Horoscope Houses 3, 9 and 12 indicate the time of running away or kidnapped.

Houses 2, 4, 3, 9 and 11 indicate his return.

I hope you have already worked it out.

Regards.

Dr. Rath

Ravinder Grover <rgrover Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 1:44:23 AMRE: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

27 Feb 2010

Dear Sir

Thanks for your guidance and expertise advise.

Till today we have no news about the kidnapped people.

Thanks

RG

@gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Luther RathSaturday, February 27, 2010 1:14 AM@gro ups.comRe: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

9th house is for long journey, is it OK? The missing person has made a long journey and hence he is expected to be at a far off place. If we consider the 12th to 9th to negate the house maters, the missing person stops but cannot reach home back. He has to travel back again to be at home. Hence 8th house may not be significant in such a case. In KP, the 7th house indictes break of journey. So 7th makes him to stop and again the 3rd and/or 9th throws hin to further move forward or backward. Hope I am not mis-understood.

Dr. Rath

Ravinder Grover <rgrover (AT) xtra (DOT) co.nz>@gro ups.comFri, February 26, 2010 10:37:02 AMRE: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

12th to (3,9,12)

@gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of sujata dasFriday, February 26, 2010 8:05 AM@gro ups.comRe: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

I found ur rule good in 1 case.. What is the justification of 8th House for returning --- On Wed, 24/2/10, Wyomesh <wyomeshd > wrote:

Wyomesh <wyomeshd > Re: URGENT - Kidnapped@gro ups.comWednesday, 24 February, 2010, 4:57 PM

Missing Person:Consider the 3rd, the 9th, and the 12th for the missing person (counting from his Ascendant), and the 2nd, 8th, and 11th (being 12th to the 3rd, 9th, and 12th) for the person to return home.Astrologically yoursWyomesh@gro ups.com, "Ravinder Grover" <rgrover > wrote:>> 22 Feb 2010> > > > Dear all> > > > Can anybody please tell me the KP formula for the below question:> > > > > > MY younger brother has been kidnapped? When would he return home? Do we> have to pay any ransom?> > > > > > Regards> > > > RG>

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February 27, 2010

I would think ,it can be split into 2 parts. 1. Is the person alive? Answer using yes/no horary e,g.,TSP(F3). 2.If you get a positive answer, apply" missing person" query then for return examine signf of 1,8,11 houses. with DBA Regards, Satish--- On Sat, 2/27/10, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:Luther Rath <rathlutherRe: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped Date: Saturday, February 27, 2010, 5:57

PM

The query is from a lady in Delhi. She gives the horary number 7. Her query was "My younger brother has been kidnaped. When would he return home? -------"

So the Ascendant in the chart cast for Horary No. 7 is the Lagna for the lady. Thus the 3 cusp shall be the Ascendant for the kidnaped brother. Therefore the study should begin from the sub-lord of 3rd cusp.

This is what that runs in my mind.

Dr. Rath

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >Ravinder Grover <rgrover (AT) xtra (DOT) co.nz>; @gro ups.comCc: VIJAYANAND PATIL <guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com>Thu, February 25, 2010 12:58:04 PMRe: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped