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5 March 2010

 

Dear Sir

 

Its  ‘Some remedies’ .  I will have to find my scribbled paper. 

I will indeed get back soon

 

Thanks

 

RG

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Suprakash

Ghosh

Friday, March 05, 2010 6:44 PM

 

Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

 

 

 



 

Dear

Ravindarji

 

 

 

 

 

Would

you please elaborate on Dome remady?

 

 

 

 

 

(Dome remedies were suggest to the native.))

 

 

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

 

 

 

Suprakash

 

 

 

 

 

 

-----

Original Message -----

 

 

Ravinder Grover

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thursday, March 04,

2010 2:22 PM

 

 

RE: Re:

URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

 

 

 

4 March 2010

Dear brothers and sisters

I just got the news re the Kidnapped

person.

1. In fact there were are two people

kidnapped. (Mama and Bhanja)

2. Please look at the SLC(3) for the

younger brother of the person who has asked question to me on 22 Feb 2010

3. Kidnappers have asked for the Ransom

of Rs 1 crore

4. Now kidnappers have negotiated the

amount and have come down to Rs 51,00,000

5. I was told, that younger person was

shot. I don’t know when? And then the injured person was hospitalized and

still alive.

6. Please look at the analysis below,

a. SLC(3) was Rahu in Dual sign, probably

signified more than one person (my guess)

b. Negotiation as predicted

c. Killing effects as predicted

d.

SLC(1) = Rahu in

Ven/Merc

i. Rahu signifies (9,7,12-5)

ii. Ven signifies (7,9,12-5), Ven with Jup S(7,8,7-10), with Sun

S(7,8,3)

iii. Merc S(1,8,12-6,1- 4)

e.

I guess house 12

signification which I was expecting for expenditure or end, might be for

hospitalization or treatment in confinement

Any

further enlightenment to the analysis is welcome

Can

anybody predict the final outcome of the entire dram with dates please.

Thanks

RG

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Luther

Rath

Sunday, February 28, 2010 6:38 PM

 

Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear

Satishji,

 

 

Why

1 and 8 please?

 

 

Dr.

Rath

 

 

 

 

 

 

R

Satish <rsatish1942

 

Sat, February 27, 2010 9:45:50 PM

Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

 

 

I would think ,it can be split into 2 parts.

 

1. Is the person alive? Answer using yes/no horary e,g.,TSP(F3) .

 

 

2.If you get a positive answer, apply " missing person " query

then for return examine

signf of 1,8,11 houses. with DBA

 

 

Regards,

 

 

Satish

 

--- On Sat, 2/27/10, Luther Rath <rathluther >

wrote:

 

Luther Rath <rathluther >

Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

@gro ups.com

Saturday, February 27, 2010, 5:57 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

The

query is from a lady in Delhi. She gives the horary number 7. Her query was

" My younger brother has been kidnaped. When would he return home?

------- "

 

 

So

the Ascendant in the chart cast for Horary No. 7 is the Lagna for the lady.

Thus the 3 cusp shall be the Ascendant for the kidnaped brother.

Therefore the study should begin from the sub-lord of 3rd cusp.

 

 

This

is what that runs in my mind.

 

 

Dr.

Rath

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >

Ravinder Grover <rgrover (AT) xtra (DOT) co.nz>; @gro

ups.com

Cc: VIJAYANAND PATIL <guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com>

Thu, February 25, 2010 12:58:04 PM

Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

 

Dear

Ravinder,

 

 

As the kidnapped/missing person is a stranger you should take the

IXcusp of the Horary chart as Lagna of the Kidnapped

person for purposes of Judgement... ( the Lagna of the Horary Chart

will represent you yourself...) .

 

 

This is my humble suggestion.. .

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ravinder Grover <rgrover (AT) xtra (DOT) co.nz>

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >

Thu, 25 February, 2010 12:15:15 PM

RE: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

25 Feb 2010

Dear Yogesh ji, Vijanand ji and

others

Many thanks for your kind info.

In fact I was asked this question by

somebody from New Delhi.

I casted the chart on 22 Feb 2010,

18:00 hours, Auckland, New Zealand, NZDST for KP 7 (1-249)

My analysis was as follows:

1. Lagna rising for KP7 è R(1) 7-33-20 = Mars R,

Ketu, Jup c

2. Younger brother, Take Lagna as

cusp 3.

3. Hence, SLC(1) = Rahu in Ven/Merc

a. Rahu signifies (9,7,12-5)

b. Ven signifies (7,9,12-5), Ven with Jup

S(7,8,7-10), with Sun S(7,8,3)

c. Merc S(1,8,12-6,1- 4)

4. Maarkesh and Bhaadhkesh houses

for R(3) are (2,7), hence S(2,7) = (Sun, 2Jup c, Ven, Rahu, 2Mon,

Ketu)

5. SLC(1) is in S(2,7) strongly hence it

seems to me that the person might be killed. I thought H(3) signifies

some negotiation.

6. I did not consider DBAS as I was

expecting some the event to happen soon.

7. The person who asked question, let’s

look at her Cusp(11), SLC(11) = Ketu in Jup C/Merc. Ketu S(10,3,9-12) ,

Jup is combust to Ketu would lose some power for being in the star of combust

planet, Jup S(9,10,9-12) which shoes some ‘out of court’ or

‘direct negotiation with the kidnapper. (I may be wrong). Merc

S(3,10,1-8,3- 6) S(12) can be atken as expenditure for ransom too,

8. I think either Rahu or Jup need to be

moved to the sensitive point to get some result.

I did the above chart with anther

method also on 21 Feb 2010, 21:33:23 hours, NZDST, AKL, NZ too, which I

am not putting down here. Dome remedies were suggest to the native.

I am looking forward for some commebts

from the experts to help me with analysis.

 

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi [yogeshlajmi @]

Thursday, February 25, 2010 7:11 PM

@gro ups.com

Cc: Ravinder Grover; VIJAYANAND PATIL

Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

 

Dear

Ravinder,

 

 

First cast the Horary chart...and if the missing person is a stranger,take

the sub-lord of the IXth Cusp and analyse aas follows...

 

 

If the s/l of the Lagna of the missing person is connected to the VIth,he is

unwell,of VIII,he is injured in an accident,of XIII,he is in some Hosptal,if

VII & XII,both in Maraksthana or Badhakasthana,

 

 

then

he is surely dead,if in fiery sign,he has received injuries and succumbed to

them,if in a watery sign he has drowned,if in an earthy sign he will have

died a natural death,if the XIth,the Police will be of help in tracing him,if

II & IV,he has already returned home,If the s/l of the Horary Lagna is in

direct motion and in a planet also in direct motion,and signifies II,III,IV

& XI,counted from the lagna of the missing person,he will get

back for certain... and so on...

 

 

Readers are referred to the recent article,by Mr.Pankaj Himvan, on this

subject,in the recently released ...K.P &

Astrology,Annual 2010.Pp.46-49.

 

 

With the very best wishes,

 

 

Yogesh

Lajmi.

 

 

GOOD LUCK !

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

guide <guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com>

@gro ups.com

Wed, 24 February, 2010 4:59:43 PM

Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

 

Dear friends

Mr. Ravinder is well versed kp astrologer and he knew very well how to

prepare prasna kundli or horary. What he expects is that whether particular

rule can be formed for kidnappning.

With regards

Vijayanand Patil, Kolhapur, Maharashtra

Cell nO.+91 9673746303/+ 91 9422582853

 

@gro ups.com, Satish korabu <satish.korabu@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Mr. Ravinder,

>

> For fulfilment of your wish of reuniting with your younger brother,

meditate

> on this question and think of a random number between 1 to 249, which

comes

> to your mind. Draft a Prashna Kundali of the number at the place and

time

> when you sit for solving the query. First of all check the position of

moon

> to ascertain if the position reflects the querist mind. If so then check

the

> sub lord of 11 th house. If it is a strong significator of 3rd house, or

1st

> house, then your brother may return. To check when he will return, see

the

> dasha, antardasha and transits of significator planets. If the sub lord

of

> 11th happend to be naturally malefic planets, probably you may have to

pay

> the ransom.

>

> Regards.

>

> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Ravinder Grover <rgrover

>wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > 22 Feb 2010

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear all

> >

> >

> >

> > Can anybody please tell me the KP formula for the below question:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > MY younger brother has been kidnapped? When would he return home?

Do we

> > have to pay any ransom?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> >

> > RG

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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5 March 2010

 

Dear friend

 

In KP we need to be very sure with the accurate answer.    I tried

my analysis and wrote everything in my first email.  But I am looking from

others for comments, either way, god or bad.  My friend, I am learning and

sometimes its painful to see the negative thing and becomes very hard to tell this

to the person who is asking you  a question.

 

Recently, one of my good friend, wished to sit for an exam.  I

noticed that he might not pass but I inspired him to study hard and go for the

exam.  Now , last week his result was declared and he failed.  Now I am getting

all the blame for not letting him know the truth in the very first place.

 

 

I do not like discouraging people.  I am a student and I am

learning too.  My KP is NOT AS GOOD as others.  But I am trying hard.

 

Its very easy to analyse and justify the  chart after the event. 

I wish I can be 100% correct in the first instance.

 

Regards

 

RG

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of adith

kasinath.g.k

Friday, March 05, 2010 6:50 AM

 

Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ravinder ji,

 

Analysing such cases are challenging as there are no concrete rules known to

us.

 

There are many choices we come across.

If we get the answer, it would be easier to coin the scenario . But prediction

seems to be very tough.

 

I had the urge to check the status of the missed person.

I prayed to Shirdi Sai Baba to guide me since I was not much sure about the

actual method.

 

I selected no:155 from a Book.

Judgment time:

4/3/2010

9.34.57 PM

Salem (11n39 78e12)

 

Asc: in Scorpio: Mars-Sat-Mars

Asc. lord and Asc. CSL Mars® is also lord of 6 posited in 8. It shows that he

is in trouble,sick and in bad situation. No planet in Mars star also.

 

Moon:the lord of 9 posited in 11 closed to 12. Moon is in the star of Rahu in

2. Rahu is in the star of Venus he lord of 7 and 12 in 4.

Moon is in the sub of Mercury in 3 closed to 4.

Moon is aspected by Mars lord of 1 and 6.

 

1,3,9,12 shows the kidnapped. 1,6 shows the illness and 4 shows the place where

the kidnapped person is hidden . or

4 is also the house of the native. Here is the confusion.

 

THE ASC: CSL: Mars ® is in the star of SAT ® which is not good.

Mars (1,6,8) in the star of sat in 10 (End of life or place of the kidnapper

?).

Mars in the sub of Mercury which signfies 3,4. It is aspected by Mars 1,6,8)

Mercury is in the star of Rahu who signfies 2,7,12,4.

Mars does aspect the lord of 9 (Badaka) Moon in 11 close to 12.

1,6,8,2,7,10,12,9 does not signfy favorable.

Does they signfy danger to the native?

 

Mars is in the Water sign where the Badaka house is also there and Mars aspects

Moon the Badaka lord also.

Mars has no planet in its star.

 

Hence Asc. CSL signfies danger? Mars in 8, watery sign and connected to Maraka

and Badaka and Rahu. hence possibilty of shooting to death and throwing into

water?

 

THIS IS MY ATTEMPT. IF THE NATIVE RETURNS BACK HOME. EVERYONE WILL LAUGH AT ME

INCLUDING MYSELF.

If so I may think 2 shows the Joining of family

4 shows the retunng home

Mars aspects Moon is good

and so on..

 

But I have taken in a different angle for study. Let me see.

 

THE 8CSL: Sat ®: in 10. Sat is in the star of Sun in 4 close to Jupiter the

lord of 2.

Sun is aspcetd by Mars he lord of 1,6 in 8.

Sat is in the sub of Venus (4,12,7) who is in the star of Jupiter (4,5,2).

Jupiter strongly signfies 5 which is good. But as it is in conjunction with Sun

the lord of 10 and becomes combust. Hence Jupiter's 5 signification may be

nullified?!

Moreover Jupiter in the star of Rahu who signfies 2,7,12.

 

the above are not favrable.

 

THE DASA-BUKTHI-ANDRA

RAHU-MERCURY-JUPITER (till 17/3/2010)

They are connected to 2,7,4,12. Do they indicate returning home and loss to the

native?

or Danger to native?

 

If we just go back and check: on 22/Feb, the DBAS was: Rahu-Merc-Jup-Mars

Mars clearly shows as give nabove the native is in trouble and not well and

suffering.

amd also nanger is indicated.

 

RPs:

Asc-Ven-Rahu-Sat

Moon-Ven-Rahu-Mer

Day-Jup

 

Ven,Rahu and Jupiter are all connected to Maraka. Jupiter does aspect the

Badaka lord 9 Moon in 11 closed to 12 who is also aspected by Mars (1,6,8)

 

If look at the period, 11/3/2010 to 14/3/2010 (IST) rahu-Merc-Jup-Venus period.

This could be dangerous period ?!

 

All are only thought of chances.! Only the result will throw more light on this

and that may help us to pinpoint the mistake if any.

 

I request others to comment on this.

 

With Regards

Adith

 

 

 

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Ravinder Grover <rgrover wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

4 March 2010

 

Dear brothers

and sisters

 

I just got the

news re the Kidnapped person.

1. In fact there were are two people

kidnapped. (Mama and Bhanja)

2. Please look at the SLC(3) for the

younger brother of the person who has asked question to me on 22 Feb 2010

3. Kidnappers have asked for the Ransom

of Rs 1 crore

4. Now kidnappers have negotiated the

amount and have come down to Rs 51,00,000

5. I was told, that younger person was

shot. I don’t know when? And then the injured person was

hospitalized and still alive.

6. Please look at the analysis below,

a. SLC(3) was Rahu in Dual sign, probably

signified more than one person (my guess)

b. Negotiation as predicted

c. Killing effects as predicted

d.

SLC(1) = Rahu in

Ven/Merc

 

i. Rahu signifies (9,7,12-5)

 

ii. Ven signifies (7,9,12-5), Ven with Jup S(7,8,7-10), with Sun

S(7,8,3)

iii. Merc S(1,8,12-6,1- 4)

e.

I guess house 12

signification which I was expecting for expenditure or end, might be for

hospitalization or treatment in confinement

Any further enlightenment to the analysis is welcome

 

Can anybody predict the final outcome of the entire dram with

dates please.

 

Thanks

 

RG

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Luther Rath

Sunday, February 28, 2010 6:38 PM

 

 

 

 

Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Satishji,

 

 

Why 1 and 8 please?

 

 

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

R Satish <rsatish1942

 

Sat, February 27, 2010 9:45:50 PM

Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

 

 

I would think ,it can be split into 2 parts.

 

 

 

 

1. Is the person alive? Answer using yes/no horary e,g.,TSP(F3) .

 

 

 

 

 

2.If you get a positive answer, apply " missing person " query

then for return examine

signf of 1,8,11 houses. with DBA

 

 

 

 

 

Regards,

 

 

 

 

 

Satish

 

--- On Sat, 2/27/10, Luther Rath <rathluther >

wrote:

 

Luther Rath <rathluther >

Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

@gro ups.com

Saturday, February 27, 2010, 5:57 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

The

query is from a lady in Delhi. She gives the horary number 7. Her query was

" My younger brother has been kidnaped. When would he return home?

------- "

 

 

So

the Ascendant in the chart cast for Horary No. 7 is the Lagna for the lady.

Thus the 3 cusp shall be the Ascendant for the kidnaped brother.

Therefore the study should begin from the sub-lord of 3rd cusp.

 

 

This

is what that runs in my mind.

 

 

Dr.

Rath

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >

Ravinder Grover <rgrover (AT) xtra (DOT) co.nz>; @gro ups.com

Cc: VIJAYANAND PATIL <guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com>

Thu, February 25, 2010 12:58:04 PM

Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

 

Dear

Ravinder,

 

 

As the kidnapped/missing person is a stranger you should take the

IXcusp of the Horary chart as Lagna of the Kidnapped

person for purposes of Judgement... ( the Lagna of the Horary Chart

will represent you yourself...) .

 

 

This is my humble suggestion.. .

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ravinder Grover <rgrover (AT) xtra (DOT) co.nz>

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >

Thu, 25 February, 2010 12:15:15 PM

RE: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

25 Feb 2010

 

Dear Yogesh ji, Vijanand ji and

others

 

Many thanks for your kind info.

 

In fact I was asked this question by

somebody from New Delhi.

 

I casted the chart on 22 Feb 2010,

18:00 hours, Auckland, New Zealand, NZDST for KP 7 (1-249)

 

My analysis was as follows:

 

1. Lagna rising for KP7 è R(1) 7-33-20 = Mars R,

Ketu, Jup c

2. Younger brother, Take Lagna as

cusp 3.

3. Hence, SLC(1) = Rahu in Ven/Merc

a. Rahu signifies (9,7,12-5)

b. Ven signifies (7,9,12-5), Ven with Jup

S(7,8,7-10), with Sun S(7,8,3)

c. Merc S(1,8,12-6,1- 4)

4. Maarkesh and Bhaadhkesh houses

for R(3) are (2,7), hence S(2,7) = (Sun, 2Jup c, Ven, Rahu, 2Mon,

Ketu)

5. SLC(1) is in S(2,7) strongly hence it

seems to me that the person might be killed. I thought H(3) signifies

some negotiation.

6. I did not consider DBAS as I was

expecting some the event to happen soon.

7. The person who asked question,

let’s look at her Cusp(11), SLC(11) = Ketu in Jup C/Merc. Ketu

S(10,3,9-12) , Jup is combust to Ketu would lose some power for being in the

star of combust planet, Jup S(9,10,9-12) which shoes some ‘out of

court’ or ‘direct negotiation with the kidnapper. (I

may be wrong). Merc S(3,10,1-8,3- 6) S(12) can be atken as

expenditure for ransom too,

8. I think either Rahu or Jup need to be moved

to the sensitive point to get some result.

 

I did the above chart with anther

method also on 21 Feb 2010, 21:33:23 hours, NZDST, AKL, NZ too, which I

am not putting down here. Dome remedies were suggest to the native.

 

 

I am looking forward for some commebts

from the experts to help me with analysis.

 

 

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi [yogeshlajmi

@]

Thursday, February 25, 2010 7:11 PM

@gro ups.com

Cc: Ravinder Grover; VIJAYANAND PATIL

Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

 

 

Dear

Ravinder,

 

 

First cast the Horary chart...and if the missing person is a stranger,take

the sub-lord of the IXth Cusp and analyse aas follows...

 

 

If the s/l of the Lagna of the missing person is connected to the VIth,he is

unwell,of VIII,he is injured in an accident,of XIII,he is in some Hosptal,if

VII & XII,both in Maraksthana or Badhakasthana,

 

 

then

he is surely dead,if in fiery sign,he has received injuries and succumbed to

them,if in a watery sign he has drowned,if in an earthy sign he will have

died a natural death,if the XIth,the Police will be of help in tracing him,if

II & IV,he has already returned home,If the s/l of the Horary Lagna is in

direct motion and in a planet also in direct motion,and signifies II,III,IV

& XI,counted from the lagna of the missing person,he will get back for

certain... and so on...

 

 

Readers are referred to the recent article,by Mr.Pankaj Himvan, on this

subject,in the recently released ...K.P &

Astrology,Annual 2010.Pp.46-49.

 

 

With the very best wishes,

 

 

Yogesh

Lajmi.

 

 

GOOD LUCK !

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

guide <guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com>

@gro ups.com

Wed, 24 February, 2010 4:59:43 PM

Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

 

Dear friends

Mr. Ravinder is well versed kp astrologer and he knew very well how to

prepare prasna kundli or horary. What he expects is that whether particular

rule can be formed for kidnappning.

With regards

Vijayanand Patil, Kolhapur, Maharashtra

Cell nO.+91 9673746303/+ 91 9422582853

 

@gro ups.com,

Satish korabu <satish.korabu@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Mr. Ravinder,

>

> For fulfilment of your wish of reuniting with your younger brother,

meditate

> on this question and think of a random number between 1 to 249, which

comes

> to your mind. Draft a Prashna Kundali of the number at the place and

time

> when you sit for solving the query. First of all check the position of

moon

> to ascertain if the position reflects the querist mind. If so then check

the

> sub lord of 11 th house. If it is a strong significator of 3rd house, or

1st

> house, then your brother may return. To check when he will return, see

the

> dasha, antardasha and transits of significator planets. If the sub lord of

> 11th happend to be naturally malefic planets, probably you may have to

pay

> the ransom.

>

> Regards.

>

> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Ravinder Grover <rgrover

>wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > 22 Feb 2010

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear all

> >

> >

> >

> > Can anybody please tell me the KP formula for the below question:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > MY younger brother has been kidnapped? When would he return home?

Do we

> > have to pay any ransom?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> >

> > RG

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Ravinder,

Pl. see the Dasa/Bhukti/Anthara/Sookshma/ati-sookshma operating...

If the significators of I,III,IX & XII operate kidnaping will take place...and as soon as the significator of the XIth begins to operate,the person(s) will be recovered...if a Dual planet posited in a dual house signifies the XIIth, more than one person will be kidnapped...and so on...the s/l of the XIth if a fast moving planet is in a moveable sign recovery will be quick...and so on...as per the well-known rules of K.P.

Wishing you the very best,

Yours sincerely,

Yogesh Lajmi..

GOOD LUCK !

 

 

 

Ravinder Grover <rgrover Sent: Fri, 5 March, 2010 3:06:42 PMRE: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

5 March 2010

 

Dear Sir

 

Its ‘Some remedies’ . I will have to find my scribbled paper. I will indeed get back soon

 

Thanks

 

RG

 

 

 

@gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Suprakash GhoshFriday, March 05, 2010 6:44 PM@gro ups.comRe: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

 



 

Dear Ravindarji

 

 

 

Would you please elaborate on Dome remady?

 

 

 

(Dome remedies were suggest to the native.))

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

 

Suprakash

 

 

 

 

-

 

Ravinder Grover

 

@gro ups.com

 

Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:22 PM

 

RE: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

 

4 March 2010

Dear brothers and sisters

I just got the news re the Kidnapped person.

1. In fact there were are two people kidnapped. (Mama and Bhanja)

2. Please look at the SLC(3) for the younger brother of the person who has asked question to me on 22 Feb 2010

3. Kidnappers have asked for the Ransom of Rs 1 crore

4. Now kidnappers have negotiated the amount and have come down to Rs 51,00,000

5. I was told, that younger person was shot. I don’t know when? And then the injured person was hospitalized and still alive.

6. Please look at the analysis below,

a. SLC(3) was Rahu in Dual sign, probably signified more than one person (my guess)

b. Negotiation as predicted

c. Killing effects as predicted

d. SLC(1) = Rahu in Ven/Merc

i. Rahu signifies (9,7,12-5)

ii. Ven signifies (7,9,12-5), Ven with Jup S(7,8,7-10), with Sun S(7,8,3)

iii. Merc S(1,8,12-6,1- 4)

e. I guess house 12 signification which I was expecting for expenditure or end, might be for hospitalization or treatment in confinement

Any further enlightenment to the analysis is welcome

Can anybody predict the final outcome of the entire dram with dates please.

Thanks

RG

 

 

@gro ups.com [k_p_ system@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Luther RathSunday, February 28, 2010 6:38 PM@gro ups.comRe: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Satishji,

 

Why 1 and 8 please?

 

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

 

 

R Satish <rsatish1942@ >@gro ups.comSat, February 27, 2010 9:45:50 PMRe: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

 

 

I would think ,it can be split into 2 parts.

 

1. Is the person alive? Answer using yes/no horary e,g.,TSP(F3) .

 

2.If you get a positive answer, apply" missing person" query then for return examine signf of 1,8,11 houses. with DBA

 

Regards,

 

Satish--- On Sat, 2/27/10, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:

Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped@gro ups.comSaturday, February 27, 2010, 5:57 PM

 

 

 

 

The query is from a lady in Delhi. She gives the horary number 7. Her query was "My younger brother has been kidnaped. When would he return home? -------"

 

So the Ascendant in the chart cast for Horary No. 7 is the Lagna for the lady. Thus the 3 cusp shall be the Ascendant for the kidnaped brother. Therefore the study should begin from the sub-lord of 3rd cusp.

 

This is what that runs in my mind.

 

Dr. Rath

 

 

 

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >Ravinder Grover <rgrover (AT) xtra (DOT) co.nz>; @gro ups.comCc: VIJAYANAND PATIL <guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com>Thu, February 25, 2010 12:58:04 PMRe: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

Dear Ravinder,

 

As the kidnapped/missing person is a stranger you should take the IXcusp of the Horary chart as Lagna of the Kidnapped person for purposes of Judgement... ( the Lagna of the Horary Chart will represent you yourself...) .

 

This is my humble suggestion.. .

 

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

 

 

Ravinder Grover <rgrover (AT) xtra (DOT) co.nz>Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >Thu, 25 February, 2010 12:15:15 PMRE: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

25 Feb 2010

Dear Yogesh ji, Vijanand ji and others

Many thanks for your kind info.

In fact I was asked this question by somebody from New Delhi.

I casted the chart on 22 Feb 2010, 18:00 hours, Auckland, New Zealand, NZDST for KP 7 (1-249)

My analysis was as follows:

1. Lagna rising for KP7 è R(1) 7-33-20 = Mars R, Ketu, Jup c

2. Younger brother, Take Lagna as cusp 3.

3. Hence, SLC(1) = Rahu in Ven/Merc

a. Rahu signifies (9,7,12-5)

b. Ven signifies (7,9,12-5), Ven with Jup S(7,8,7-10), with Sun S(7,8,3)

c. Merc S(1,8,12-6,1- 4)

4. Maarkesh and Bhaadhkesh houses for R(3) are (2,7), hence S(2,7) = (Sun, 2Jup c, Ven, Rahu, 2Mon, Ketu)

5. SLC(1) is in S(2,7) strongly hence it seems to me that the person might be killed. I thought H(3) signifies some negotiation.

6. I did not consider DBAS as I was expecting some the event to happen soon.

7. The person who asked question, let’s look at her Cusp(11), SLC(11) = Ketu in Jup C/Merc. Ketu S(10,3,9-12) , Jup is combust to Ketu would lose some power for being in the star of combust planet, Jup S(9,10,9-12) which shoes some ‘out of court’ or ‘direct negotiation with the kidnapper. (I may be wrong). Merc S(3,10,1-8,3- 6) S(12) can be atken as expenditure for ransom too,

8. I think either Rahu or Jup need to be moved to the sensitive point to get some result.

I did the above chart with anther method also on 21 Feb 2010, 21:33:23 hours, NZDST, AKL, NZ too, which I am not putting down here. Dome remedies were suggest to the native.

I am looking forward for some commebts from the experts to help me with analysis.

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi [yogeshlajmi @] Thursday, February 25, 2010 7:11 PM@gro ups.comCc: Ravinder Grover; VIJAYANAND PATILRe: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

Dear Ravinder,

 

First cast the Horary chart...and if the missing person is a stranger,take the sub-lord of the IXth Cusp and analyse aas follows...

 

If the s/l of the Lagna of the missing person is connected to the VIth,he is unwell,of VIII,he is injured in an accident,of XIII,he is in some Hosptal,if VII & XII,both in Maraksthana or Badhakasthana,

 

then he is surely dead,if in fiery sign,he has received injuries and succumbed to them,if in a watery sign he has drowned,if in an earthy sign he will have died a natural death,if the XIth,the Police will be of help in tracing him,if II & IV,he has already returned home,If the s/l of the Horary Lagna is in direct motion and in a planet also in direct motion,and signifies II,III,IV & XI,counted from the lagna of the missing person,he will get back for certain... and so on...

 

Readers are referred to the recent article,by Mr.Pankaj Himvan, on this subject,in the recently released ...K.P & Astrology,Annual 2010.Pp.46-49.

 

With the very best wishes,

 

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

GOOD LUCK !

 

 

 

 

 

guide <guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com>@gro ups.comWed, 24 February, 2010 4:59:43 PM Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

Dear friendsMr. Ravinder is well versed kp astrologer and he knew very well how to prepare prasna kundli or horary. What he expects is that whether particular rule can be formed for kidnappning. With regardsVijayanand Patil, Kolhapur, MaharashtraCell nO.+91 9673746303/+ 91 9422582853@gro ups.com, Satish korabu <satish.korabu@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Mr. Ravinder,> > For fulfilment of your wish of reuniting with your younger brother, meditate> on this question and think of a random number between 1 to 249, which comes> to your mind. Draft a Prashna Kundali of the number at the place and time> when you sit for solving the query. First of all check the position of moon> to ascertain if the position reflects the querist mind. If so then check the> sub lord of 11 th house. If it is a strong significator of 3rd house, or 1st> house, then your

brother may return. To check when he will return, see the> dasha, antardasha and transits of significator planets. If the sub lord of> 11th happend to be naturally malefic planets, probably you may have to pay> the ransom.> > Regards.> > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Ravinder Grover <rgrover >wrote:> > >> >> > 22 Feb 2010> >> >> >> > Dear all> >> >> >> > Can anybody please tell me the KP formula for the below question:> >> >> >> >> >> > MY younger brother has been kidnapped? When would he return home? Do we> > have to pay any ransom?> >> >> >> >> >> > Regards> >> >> >> > RG> >> >>

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11 March 2011

 

 Dear all

 

Kidnappers have released the hostages?

 

Any comments please?

 

Regards

 

RG

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Ravinder

Grover

Friday, March 05, 2010 10:37 PM

 

RE: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5 March 2010

 

Dear Sir

 

Its ‘Some remedies’ . I will

have to find my scribbled paper. I will indeed get back soon

 

Thanks

 

RG

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Suprakash

Ghosh

Friday, March 05, 2010 6:44 PM

 

Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



 

Dear Ravindarji

 

 

 

 

 

Would you please elaborate on Dome remady?

 

 

 

 

 

(Dome remedies were

suggest to the native.))

 

 

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

 

 

 

Suprakash

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

Ravinder Grover

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sent:

Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:22 PM

 

 

RE:

Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4 March 2010

Dear brothers and sisters

I just got the news re the Kidnapped

person.

1. In fact there were are two people

kidnapped. (Mama and Bhanja)

2. Please look at the SLC(3) for the

younger brother of the person who has asked question to me on 22 Feb 2010

3. Kidnappers have asked for the Ransom

of Rs 1 crore

4. Now kidnappers have negotiated the

amount and have come down to Rs 51,00,000

5. I was told, that younger person was

shot. I don’t know when? And then the injured person was hospitalized and

still alive.

6. Please look at the analysis below,

a. SLC(3) was Rahu in Dual sign, probably

signified more than one person (my guess)

b. Negotiation as predicted

c. Killing effects as predicted

d.

SLC(1) = Rahu in

Ven/Merc

i. Rahu signifies (9,7,12-5)

ii. Ven signifies (7,9,12-5), Ven with Jup S(7,8,7-10), with Sun

S(7,8,3)

iii. Merc S(1,8,12-6,1- 4)

e.

I guess house 12

signification which I was expecting for expenditure or end, might be for

hospitalization or treatment in confinement

Any

further enlightenment to the analysis is welcome

Can

anybody predict the final outcome of the entire dram with dates please.

Thanks

RG

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Luther

Rath

Sunday, February 28, 2010 6:38 PM

 

Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear

Satishji,

 

 

Why

1 and 8 please?

 

 

Dr.

Rath

 

 

 

 

 

 

R

Satish <rsatish1942

 

Sat, February 27, 2010 9:45:50 PM

Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

 

 

I would think ,it can be split into 2 parts.

 

1. Is the person alive? Answer using yes/no horary e,g.,TSP(F3) .

 

 

2.If you get a positive answer, apply " missing person " query

then for return examine

signf of 1,8,11 houses. with DBA

 

 

Regards,

 

 

Satish

 

--- On Sat, 2/27/10, Luther Rath <rathluther >

wrote:

 

Luther Rath <rathluther >

Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

@gro ups.com

Saturday, February 27, 2010, 5:57 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

The

query is from a lady in Delhi. She gives the horary number 7. Her query was

" My younger brother has been kidnaped. When would he return home?

------- "

 

 

So

the Ascendant in the chart cast for Horary No. 7 is the Lagna for the lady.

Thus the 3 cusp shall be the Ascendant for the kidnaped brother.

Therefore the study should begin from the sub-lord of 3rd cusp.

 

 

This

is what that runs in my mind.

 

 

Dr.

Rath

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >

Ravinder Grover <rgrover (AT) xtra (DOT) co.nz>; @gro

ups.com

Cc: VIJAYANAND PATIL <guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com>

Thu, February 25, 2010 12:58:04 PM

Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

 

Dear

Ravinder,

 

 

As the kidnapped/missing person is a stranger you should take the

IXcusp of the Horary chart as Lagna of the Kidnapped

person for purposes of Judgement... ( the Lagna of the Horary Chart

will represent you yourself...) .

 

 

This is my humble suggestion.. .

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ravinder Grover <rgrover (AT) xtra (DOT) co.nz>

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >

Thu, 25 February, 2010 12:15:15 PM

RE: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

25 Feb 2010

Dear Yogesh ji, Vijanand ji and

others

Many thanks for your kind info.

In fact I was asked this question by

somebody from New Delhi.

I casted the chart on 22 Feb 2010,

18:00 hours, Auckland, New Zealand, NZDST for KP 7 (1-249)

My analysis was as follows:

1. Lagna rising for KP7 è R(1) 7-33-20 = Mars R,

Ketu, Jup c

2. Younger brother, Take Lagna as

cusp 3.

3. Hence, SLC(1) = Rahu in Ven/Merc

a. Rahu signifies (9,7,12-5)

b. Ven signifies (7,9,12-5), Ven with Jup

S(7,8,7-10), with Sun S(7,8,3)

c. Merc S(1,8,12-6,1- 4)

4. Maarkesh and Bhaadhkesh houses

for R(3) are (2,7), hence S(2,7) = (Sun, 2Jup c, Ven, Rahu, 2Mon,

Ketu)

5. SLC(1) is in S(2,7) strongly hence it

seems to me that the person might be killed. I thought H(3) signifies

some negotiation.

6. I did not consider DBAS as I was

expecting some the event to happen soon.

7. The person who asked question, let’s

look at her Cusp(11), SLC(11) = Ketu in Jup C/Merc. Ketu S(10,3,9-12) ,

Jup is combust to Ketu would lose some power for being in the star of combust

planet, Jup S(9,10,9-12) which shoes some ‘out of court’ or

‘direct negotiation with the kidnapper. (I may be wrong). Merc

S(3,10,1-8,3- 6) S(12) can be atken as expenditure for ransom too,

8. I think either Rahu or Jup need to be

moved to the sensitive point to get some result.

I did the above chart with anther

method also on 21 Feb 2010, 21:33:23 hours, NZDST, AKL, NZ too, which I

am not putting down here. Dome remedies were suggest to the native.

I am looking forward for some commebts

from the experts to help me with analysis.

 

 

 

Yogesh Lajmi [yogeshlajmi @]

Thursday, February 25, 2010 7:11 PM

@gro ups.com

Cc: Ravinder Grover; VIJAYANAND PATIL

Re: Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

 

Dear

Ravinder,

 

 

First cast the Horary chart...and if the missing person is a stranger,take

the sub-lord of the IXth Cusp and analyse aas follows...

 

 

If the s/l of the Lagna of the missing person is connected to the VIth,he is

unwell,of VIII,he is injured in an accident,of XIII,he is in some Hosptal,if

VII & XII,both in Maraksthana or Badhakasthana,

 

 

then

he is surely dead,if in fiery sign,he has received injuries and succumbed to

them,if in a watery sign he has drowned,if in an earthy sign he will have

died a natural death,if the XIth,the Police will be of help in tracing him,if

II & IV,he has already returned home,If the s/l of the Horary Lagna is in

direct motion and in a planet also in direct motion,and signifies II,III,IV

& XI,counted from the lagna of the missing person,he will get

back for certain... and so on...

 

 

Readers are referred to the recent article,by Mr.Pankaj Himvan, on this

subject,in the recently released ...K.P &

Astrology,Annual 2010.Pp.46-49.

 

 

With the very best wishes,

 

 

Yogesh

Lajmi.

 

 

GOOD LUCK !

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

guide <guide_ vijayanand@ rediffmail. com>

@gro ups.com

Wed, 24 February, 2010 4:59:43 PM

Re: URGENT - Kidnapped

 

 

 

 

Dear friends

Mr. Ravinder is well versed kp astrologer and he knew very well how to prepare

prasna kundli or horary. What he expects is that whether particular rule can

be formed for kidnappning.

With regards

Vijayanand Patil, Kolhapur, Maharashtra

Cell nO.+91 9673746303/+ 91 9422582853

 

@gro ups.com, Satish korabu <satish.korabu@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Mr. Ravinder,

>

> For fulfilment of your wish of reuniting with your younger brother,

meditate

> on this question and think of a random number between 1 to 249, which

comes

> to your mind. Draft a Prashna Kundali of the number at the place and

time

> when you sit for solving the query. First of all check the position of

moon

> to ascertain if the position reflects the querist mind. If so then check

the

> sub lord of 11 th house. If it is a strong significator of 3rd house, or

1st

> house, then your brother may return. To check when he will return, see

the

> dasha, antardasha and transits of significator planets. If the sub lord

of

> 11th happend to be naturally malefic planets, probably you may have to

pay

> the ransom.

>

> Regards.

>

> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Ravinder Grover <rgrover

>wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > 22 Feb 2010

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear all

> >

> >

> >

> > Can anybody please tell me the KP formula for the below question:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > MY younger brother has been kidnapped? When would he return home?

Do we

> > have to pay any ransom?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> >

> > RG

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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