Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Respected Seniors, How to know about 3rd child?The K.P.Rules show that the native is female.But it belongs to a male whose birth particulars are given below.When from the chart of a male gender is indicated as female then can it be inferred that the native will be blessed with only daughters or is this only co incidence that this native has two daughters on other grounds. Gender of Native-Male. DOB-13.11.1963 TOB-11:59AM. Place-Rampur(U.P),India. Cusp,RL, NL, SL, SSlord cusp RL NL SL SS lord 1 Sun Moon Mars Jup 2 Sat Jup Jup Sun 3 Jup Mer Jup Rah 4 Mars Sun Sun Mer 5 Ven Moon Ven Jup 6 Mer Rah Ket Rah 7 Moon Sat Moon Jup 8 Sun Ven Jup Ven 9 Mer Mars Jup Rah 10 Ven Jup Ven Moon 11 Mars Mer Sat Sun 12 Jup Ven Ven Sat Planets, NL, SL, SSlord As/Planets NL SL SS Asc Moon Mars Jup Sun Jupiter Venus Venus Moon Mars Mars Moon Mars Mercury Venus Rahu Mercury Jupiter Rahu Jupiter Jupiter Mercury Mercury Venus Venus Saturn Jupiter Mars Saturn Mars Mars Saturn Rahu Rahu Mars Jupiter Ketu Venus Rahu Venus Kindly enlighten me. With thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Dear Mishraji first child 5th,2nd child 7th and 3rd child from the 9th lord, 9th CSL and planet signifies 9th. 9th cusp sub lord is Jup, Venus in Jup star,Mer/Rah in Jup sub will play key role in 3rd child birth/progeny. With regards Sahhasra Saagara Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisraK_P_System Sent: Wed, 31 March, 2010 8:57:14 PM K.P.Rules for 3rd child.Does Gender of Native indicate....? Respected Seniors, How to know about 3rd child?The K.P.Rules show that the native is female.But it belongs to a male whose birth particulars are given below.When from the chart of a male gender is indicated as female then can it be inferred that the native will be blessed with only daughters or is this only co incidence that this native has two daughters on other grounds. Gender of Native-Male. DOB-13.11.1963 TOB-11:59AM. Place-Rampur( U.P), India . Cusp,RL, NL, SL, SSlord cusp RL NL SL SS lord 1 Sun Moon Mars Jup 2 Sat Jup Jup Sun 3 Jup Mer Jup Rah 4 Mars Sun Sun Mer 5 Ven Moon Ven Jup 6 Mer Rah Ket Rah 7 Moon Sat Moon Jup 8 Sun Ven Jup Ven 9 Mer Mars Jup Rah 10 Ven Jup Ven Moon 11 Mars Mer Sat Sun 12 Jup Ven Ven Sat Planets, NL, SL, SSlord As/Planets NL SL SS Asc Moon Mars Jup Sun Jupiter Venus Venus Moon Mars Mars Moon Mars Mercury Venus Rahu Mercury Jupiter Rahu Jupiter Jupiter Mercury Mercury Venus Venus Saturn Jupiter Mars Saturn Mars Mars Saturn Rahu Rahu Mars Jupiter Ketu Venus Rahu Venus Kindly enlighten me. With thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Sir,Thanks for enlightening me.But i want to one thing more as to whether this rule is applicable for the chart of female or male.There must be seperate rule for analysing chart of male and female or there is a common rule for both of them. With regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra Sagar S <ssagar86 Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 11:00:12 PMRe: K.P.Rules for 3rd child.Does Gender of Native indicate....? Dear Mishraji first child 5th,2nd child 7th and 3rd child from the 9th lord, 9th CSL and planet signifies 9th. 9th cusp sub lord is Jup, Venus in Jup star,Mer/Rah in Jup sub will play key role in 3rd child birth/progeny. With regards Sahhasra Saagara Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>K_P_System@gro ups.comWed, 31 March, 2010 8:57:14 PM K.P.Rules for 3rd child.Does Gender of Native indicate.... ? Respected Seniors, How to know about 3rd child?The K.P.Rules show that the native is female.But it belongs to a male whose birth particulars are given below.When from the chart of a male gender is indicated as female then can it be inferred that the native will be blessed with only daughters or is this only co incidence that this native has two daughters on other grounds. Gender of Native-Male. DOB-13.11.1963 TOB-11:59AM. Place-Rampur( U.P), India . Cusp,RL, NL, SL, SSlord cusp RL NL SL SS lord 1 Sun Moon Mars Jup 2 Sat Jup Jup Sun 3 Jup Mer Jup Rah 4 Mars Sun Sun Mer 5 Ven Moon Ven Jup 6 Mer Rah Ket Rah 7 Moon Sat Moon Jup 8 Sun Ven Jup Ven 9 Mer Mars Jup Rah 10 Ven Jup Ven Moon 11 Mars Mer Sat Sun 12 Jup Ven Ven Sat Planets, NL, SL, SSlord As/Planets NL SL SS Asc Moon Mars Jup Sun Jupiter Venus Venus Moon Mars Mars Moon Mars Mercury Venus Rahu Mercury Jupiter Rahu Jupiter Jupiter Mercury Mercury Venus Venus Saturn Jupiter Mars Saturn Mars Mars Saturn Rahu Rahu Mars Jupiter Ketu Venus Rahu Venus Kindly enlighten me. With thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Dear Saagara ji,When some one is having a query about his/her child & selects a KP number on behalf of the child, we rotate the KP chart in such a way that 5th house comes to lagna position.After reading the attached post I got a doubt in mind that if one has 2 or 3 children, & having a query about 2nd or 3rd child, by how many houses we have to rotate the chart ? For any child 5th only or 7th - 9th according to the child ?Please guide me.Thanks Parag Pande--- On Thu, 1/4/10, Sagar S <ssagar86 wrote:Sagar S <ssagar86Re: K.P.Rules for 3rd child.Does Gender of Native indicate....? Date: Thursday, 1 April, 2010, 5:30 PM Dear Mishraji first child 5th,2nd child 7th and 3rd child from the 9th lord, 9th CSL and planet signifies 9th. 9th cusp sub lord is Jup, Venus in Jup star,Mer/Rah in Jup sub will play key role in 3rd child birth/progeny. With regards Sahhasra Saagara Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>K_P_System@gro ups.comWed, 31 March, 2010 8:57:14 PM K.P.Rules for 3rd child.Does Gender of Native indicate.... ? Respected Seniors, How to know about 3rd child?The K.P.Rules show that the native is female.But it belongs to a male whose birth particulars are given below.When from the chart of a male gender is indicated as female then can it be inferred that the native will be blessed with only daughters or is this only co incidence that this native has two daughters on other grounds. Gender of Native-Male. DOB-13.11.1963 TOB-11:59AM. Place-Rampur( U.P), India . Cusp,RL, NL, SL, SSlord cusp RL NL SL SS lord 1 Sun Moon Mars Jup 2 Sat Jup Jup Sun 3 Jup Mer Jup Rah 4 Mars Sun Sun Mer 5 Ven Moon Ven Jup 6 Mer Rah Ket Rah 7 Moon Sat Moon Jup 8 Sun Ven Jup Ven 9 Mer Mars Jup Rah 10 Ven Jup Ven Moon 11 Mars Mer Sat Sun 12 Jup Ven Ven Sat Planets, NL, SL, SSlord As/Planets NL SL SS Asc Moon Mars Jup Sun Jupiter Venus Venus Moon Mars Mars Moon Mars Mercury Venus Rahu Mercury Jupiter Rahu Jupiter Jupiter Mercury Mercury Venus Venus Saturn Jupiter Mars Saturn Mars Mars Saturn Rahu Rahu Mars Jupiter Ketu Venus Rahu Venus Kindly enlighten me. With thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 dear paragin fact we will get the clue that the person asking about which child 1st/2nd or 3rd etc., by observing Jupiter karaka for children.Sahhasra SaagaraParag Pande <paragpande27 Sent: Fri, 2 April, 2010 9:55:26 AMRe: K.P.Rules for 3rd child.Does Gender of Native indicate....? Dear Saagara ji,When some one is having a query about his/her child & selects a KP number on behalf of the child, we rotate the KP chart in such a way that 5th house comes to lagna position.After reading the attached post I got a doubt in mind that if one has 2 or 3 children, & having a query about 2nd or 3rd child, by how many houses we have to rotate the chart ? For any child 5th only or 7th - 9th according to the child ?Please guide me.Thanks Parag Pande--- On Thu, 1/4/10, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: K.P.Rules for 3rd child.Does Gender of Native indicate.... ?@gro ups.comThursday, 1 April, 2010, 5:30 PM Dear Mishraji first child 5th,2nd child 7th and 3rd child from the 9th lord, 9th CSL and planet signifies 9th. 9th cusp sub lord is Jup, Venus in Jup star,Mer/Rah in Jup sub will play key role in 3rd child birth/progeny. With regards Sahhasra Saagara Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>K_P_System@gro ups.comWed, 31 March, 2010 8:57:14 PM K.P.Rules for 3rd child.Does Gender of Native indicate.... ? Respected Seniors, How to know about 3rd child?The K.P.Rules show that the native is female.But it belongs to a male whose birth particulars are given below.When from the chart of a male gender is indicated as female then can it be inferred that the native will be blessed with only daughters or is this only co incidence that this native has two daughters on other grounds. Gender of Native-Male. DOB-13.11.1963 TOB-11:59AM. Place-Rampur( U.P), India . Cusp,RL, NL, SL, SSlord cusp RL NL SL SS lord 1 Sun Moon Mars Jup 2 Sat Jup Jup Sun 3 Jup Mer Jup Rah 4 Mars Sun Sun Mer 5 Ven Moon Ven Jup 6 Mer Rah Ket Rah 7 Moon Sat Moon Jup 8 Sun Ven Jup Ven 9 Mer Mars Jup Rah 10 Ven Jup Ven Moon 11 Mars Mer Sat Sun 12 Jup Ven Ven Sat Planets, NL, SL, SSlord As/Planets NL SL SS Asc Moon Mars Jup Sun Jupiter Venus Venus Moon Mars Mars Moon Mars Mercury Venus Rahu Mercury Jupiter Rahu Jupiter Jupiter Mercury Mercury Venus Venus Saturn Jupiter Mars Saturn Mars Mars Saturn Rahu Rahu Mars Jupiter Ketu Venus Rahu Venus Kindly enlighten me. With thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Dear Sir, Till date it appears that 9th cusp and 9th house(Bhava) has to be considered for third child whether it is from mother's chart or that of father. It is true that there is a confusion because if we see reverse i.e from a native's chart regarding his/her father or mother the cusps considered are either the 9th or 4th respectively. still there are no different rules. Secondly, are we competent enough to identify the gender from a given chart? BTR and Gender are two very important aspects in astrology, yet to have definite rules. Dr. Rath Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra Sent: Fri, April 2, 2010 2:14:56 AMRe: K.P.Rules for 3rd child.Does Gender of Native indicate....? Sir,Thanks for enlightening me.But i want to one thing more as to whether this rule is applicable for the chart of female or male.There must be seperate rule for analysing chart of male and female or there is a common rule for both of them. With regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comThu, April 1, 2010 11:00:12 PMRe: K.P.Rules for 3rd child.Does Gender of Native indicate.... ? Dear Mishraji first child 5th,2nd child 7th and 3rd child from the 9th lord, 9th CSL and planet signifies 9th. 9th cusp sub lord is Jup, Venus in Jup star,Mer/Rah in Jup sub will play key role in 3rd child birth/progeny. With regards Sahhasra Saagara Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>K_P_System@gro ups.comWed, 31 March, 2010 8:57:14 PM K.P.Rules for 3rd child.Does Gender of Native indicate.... ? Respected Seniors, How to know about 3rd child?The K.P.Rules show that the native is female.But it belongs to a male whose birth particulars are given below.When from the chart of a male gender is indicated as female then can it be inferred that the native will be blessed with only daughters or is this only co incidence that this native has two daughters on other grounds. Gender of Native-Male. DOB-13.11.1963 TOB-11:59AM. Place-Rampur( U.P), India . Cusp,RL, NL, SL, SSlord cusp RL NL SL SS lord 1 Sun Moon Mars Jup 2 Sat Jup Jup Sun 3 Jup Mer Jup Rah 4 Mars Sun Sun Mer 5 Ven Moon Ven Jup 6 Mer Rah Ket Rah 7 Moon Sat Moon Jup 8 Sun Ven Jup Ven 9 Mer Mars Jup Rah 10 Ven Jup Ven Moon 11 Mars Mer Sat Sun 12 Jup Ven Ven Sat Planets, NL, SL, SSlord As/Planets NL SL SS Asc Moon Mars Jup Sun Jupiter Venus Venus Moon Mars Mars Moon Mars Mercury Venus Rahu Mercury Jupiter Rahu Jupiter Jupiter Mercury Mercury Venus Venus Saturn Jupiter Mars Saturn Mars Mars Saturn Rahu Rahu Mars Jupiter Ketu Venus Rahu Venus Kindly enlighten me. With thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Respected Dr.Rathji & seniors,I am grateful to you that you often enlighten us when ever any query is put by us.I myself don't know definit rule regarding BTR and gender analysis. Gender analysis have failed many times,even if we have correct birth time.I have not studied 50 or 100 charts for this purpose ,but the native have only daughters,if his gender on the basis of correct birth time is indicated as female instead of male. That is why I had posted like this-The K.P.Rules show that the native is female.But it belongs to a male whose birth particulars are given below.When from the chart of a male gender is indicated as female then can it be inferred that the native will be blessed with only daughters or is this only co incidence that this native has two daughters on other grounds. Gender of Native-Male(Name-Susheel Saxena.) DOB-13.11.1963 TOB-11:59AM. Place-Rampur( U.P), India . Cusp,RL, NL, SL, SSlord cusp RL NL SL SS lord 1 Sun Moon Mars Jup 2 Sat Jup Jup Sun 3 Jup Mer Jup Rah 4 Mars Sun Sun Mer 5 Ven Moon Ven Jup 6 Mer Rah Ket Rah 7 Moon Sat Moon Jup 8 Sun Ven Jup Ven 9 Mer Mars Jup Rah 10 Ven Jup Ven Moon 11 Mars Mer Sat Sun 12 Jup Ven Ven Sat Planets, NL, SL, SSlord As/Planets NL SL SS Asc Moon Mars Jup Sun Jupiter Venus Venus Moon Mars Mars Moon Mars Mercury Venus Rahu Mercury Jupiter Rahu Jupiter Jupiter Mercury Mercury Venus Venus Saturn Jupiter Mars Saturn Mars Mars Saturn Rahu Rahu Mars Jupiter Ketu Venus Rahu VenusWith thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra Luther Rath <rathluther Sent: Fri, April 9, 2010 11:50:25 AMRe: K.P.Rules for 3rd child.Does Gender of Native indicate....? Dear Sir, Till date it appears that 9th cusp and 9th house(Bhava) has to be considered for third child whether it is from mother's chart or that of father. It is true that there is a confusion because if we see reverse i.e from a native's chart regarding his/her father or mother the cusps considered are either the 9th or 4th respectively. still there are no different rules. Secondly, are we competent enough to identify the gender from a given chart? BTR and Gender are two very important aspects in astrology, yet to have definite rules. Dr. Rath Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 Dear Mr.Misra, I suggest you use Mr.Gondhalekar's method,which,in my personal experience has given me correct results 80% of the times... With best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi.--- On Fri, 9/4/10, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisraRe: K.P.Rules for 3rd child.Does Gender of Native indicate....? Received: Friday, 9 April, 2010, 4:30 PM Respected Dr.Rathji & seniors,I am grateful to you that you often enlighten us when ever any query is put by us.I myself don't know definit rule regarding BTR and gender analysis. Gender analysis have failed many times,even if we have correct birth time.I have not studied 50 or 100 charts for this purpose ,but the native have only daughters,if his gender on the basis of correct birth time is indicated as female instead of male. That is why I had posted like this-The K.P.Rules show that the native is female.But it belongs to a male whose birth particulars are given below.When from the chart of a male gender is indicated as female then can it be inferred that the native will be blessed with only daughters or is this only co incidence that this native has two daughters on other grounds. Gender of Native-Male( Name-Susheel Saxena.) DOB-13.11.1963 TOB-11:59AM. Place-Rampur( U.P), India . Cusp,RL, NL, SL, SSlord cusp RL NL SL SS lord 1 Sun Moon Mars Jup 2 Sat Jup Jup Sun 3 Jup Mer Jup Rah 4 Mars Sun Sun Mer 5 Ven Moon Ven Jup 6 Mer Rah Ket Rah 7 Moon Sat Moon Jup 8 Sun Ven Jup Ven 9 Mer Mars Jup Rah 10 Ven Jup Ven Moon 11 Mars Mer Sat Sun 12 Jup Ven Ven Sat Planets, NL, SL, SSlord As/Planets NL SL SS Asc Moon Mars Jup Sun Jupiter Venus Venus Moon Mars Mars Moon Mars Mercury Venus Rahu Mercury Jupiter Rahu Jupiter Jupiter Mercury Mercury Venus Venus Saturn Jupiter Mars Saturn Mars Mars Saturn Rahu Rahu Mars Jupiter Ketu Venus Rahu VenusWith thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comFri, April 9, 2010 11:50:25 AMRe: K.P.Rules for 3rd child.Does Gender of Native indicate.... ? Dear Sir, Till date it appears that 9th cusp and 9th house(Bhava) has to be considered for third child whether it is from mother's chart or that of father. It is true that there is a confusion because if we see reverse i.e from a native's chart regarding his/her father or mother the cusps considered are either the 9th or 4th respectively. still there are no different rules. Secondly, are we competent enough to identify the gender from a given chart? BTR and Gender are two very important aspects in astrology, yet to have definite rules. Dr. Rath Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 Dear Misraji, None is confident on this issue. The gender of the native is assessed from the birth ascendant. It is either male or female. It does not mean that a native having a male horoscope will have all sons and the one who has a female horoscope will have all daughters. The 1st second and third issues should be assessed from the 5th 7th and 9th cusps of the chart of the native. The question whether one is correct or otherwise is a different issue. Dr. Rath Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra Sent: Fri, April 9, 2010 10:00:16 PMRe: K.P.Rules for 3rd child.Does Gender of Native indicate....? Respected Dr.Rathji & seniors,I am grateful to you that you often enlighten us when ever any query is put by us.I myself don't know definit rule regarding BTR and gender analysis. Gender analysis have failed many times,even if we have correct birth time.I have not studied 50 or 100 charts for this purpose ,but the native have only daughters,if his gender on the basis of correct birth time is indicated as female instead of male. That is why I had posted like this-The K.P.Rules show that the native is female.But it belongs to a male whose birth particulars are given below.When from the chart of a male gender is indicated as female then can it be inferred that the native will be blessed with only daughters or is this only co incidence that this native has two daughters on other grounds. Gender of Native-Male( Name-Susheel Saxena.) DOB-13.11.1963 TOB-11:59AM. Place-Rampur( U.P), India . Cusp,RL, NL, SL, SSlord cusp RL NL SL SS lord 1 Sun Moon Mars Jup 2 Sat Jup Jup Sun 3 Jup Mer Jup Rah 4 Mars Sun Sun Mer 5 Ven Moon Ven Jup 6 Mer Rah Ket Rah 7 Moon Sat Moon Jup 8 Sun Ven Jup Ven 9 Mer Mars Jup Rah 10 Ven Jup Ven Moon 11 Mars Mer Sat Sun 12 Jup Ven Ven Sat Planets, NL, SL, SSlord As/Planets NL SL SS Asc Moon Mars Jup Sun Jupiter Venus Venus Moon Mars Mars Moon Mars Mercury Venus Rahu Mercury Jupiter Rahu Jupiter Jupiter Mercury Mercury Venus Venus Saturn Jupiter Mars Saturn Mars Mars Saturn Rahu Rahu Mars Jupiter Ketu Venus Rahu VenusWith thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comFri, April 9, 2010 11:50:25 AMRe: K.P.Rules for 3rd child.Does Gender of Native indicate.... ? Dear Sir, Till date it appears that 9th cusp and 9th house(Bhava) has to be considered for third child whether it is from mother's chart or that of father. It is true that there is a confusion because if we see reverse i.e from a native's chart regarding his/her father or mother the cusps considered are either the 9th or 4th respectively. still there are no different rules. Secondly, are we competent enough to identify the gender from a given chart? BTR and Gender are two very important aspects in astrology, yet to have definite rules. Dr. Rath Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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