Guest guest Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Dear Adith ji, It is indeed very difficult to classify Karma according to the time in which effects are worked out. Regards, TW Theory of Karma by Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw 1. Immediately Effective (ditthadhammavedaniya) Karma- in the present lifetime 2. Subsequently Effective (uppapajjavedaniya) Karma- in the immediately following lifetime 3. Indefinitely Effective (aparapariyavedaniya) Karma-- in lifetimes two or more in the future 4. Defunct or Ineffective (ahosi) Karma- kamma whose effects have ripened already Immediately Effective Karma is that which is experienced in this present life. According to the Abhidhamma one does both good and evil during the javana process (thought-impulsion), which usually lasts for seven thought-moments. The effect of the first thought-moment, being the weakest, one may reap in this life itself. This is called the Immediately Effective Karma. If it does not operate in this life, it is called `Defunct or Ineffective' Karma. The next weakest is the seventh thought-moment. Its effect one may reap in the subsequence birth. This is called `Subsequently Effective' Karma. This, too, is called Defunct or Ineffective Karma if it does not operate in the second birth. The effect of the intermediate thought-moments may take place at any time until one attains Nibbana. This type of Karma is known as `Indefinitely Effective' Karma. No one, not even the Buddhas and Arahantas, is exempt from this class of Karma which one may experience in the course of one's wandering in Samsara. There is no special class of Karma known as Defunct or Ineffective, but when such actions that should produce their effects in this life or in a subsequent life do not operate, they are termed Defunct or Ineffective Karma. , " adith kasinath.g.k " <gkadithkasinath wrote: > > Dear Tinwin ji, > > Thanks for your valuable inputs. > > But I realise it is not so easy to understand about the Karma ! > > With Regards > Adith > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:06 AM, TW <tw853 wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Adith ji, > > 1. Everything in one's life may be said as predestined at the moment of > > birth by past karma for the possibility of cent percent accuracy in the > > astrological prediction which is not the case in practice. Because please > > note " it may be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the > > effects of his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are > > in no way directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold > > the effects of his Karma. " > > 2. " If the present life is totally conditioned or wholly controlled by our > > past actions, then certainly Karma is tantamount to fatalism or determinism > > or predestination. If this were true, free will would be an absurdity. Life > > would be purely mechanistic, not much different from a machine. Such a > > fatalistic doctrine is not the Buddhist law of Karma…Karma does not > > necessarily mean past actions. It embraces both past and present deeds. > > Hence in one sense, we are the result of what we were; we will be the result > > of what we are… The inequality that exists among mankind is the result of > > our own past actions and our own present doings (esp viriya 'effort' and > > panna 'wisdom'). We ourselves are responsible for our own. " > > -Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw (The Theory of Karma) > > 3. In the Upajjhatthana Sutta (AN 5.57), the Lord Buddha states: > > " I am the owner of my karma. I inherit my karma. I am born of my karma. I > > am related to my karma. I live supported by my karma. Whatever karma I > > create, whether good or evil, that I shall inherit. " > > Regards, > > TW > > > > > > <%40>, " adith > > kasinath.g.k " <gkadithkasinath@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear TW ji, > > > > > > Thanks for the valuable points by our Guruji. > > > > > > But I ever have teh following question in mind unanswered. > > > > > > When all is destined in one life, he can not be responsible for his deeds > > in > > > the present life. > > > For example, if one happens to be a bad person in all activities due to > > his > > > past bad deeds, he may not be in a position to do any good deeds in his > > > present life. In this case, in his next births also we can expect him to > > be > > > a bad human only. So how can one is expected to do any good deeds in his > > > birth? > > > > > > can you enlighten me on this? > > > > > > Regards > > > Adith > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM, TW <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Guruji KSK's Quotations on Karma, Destiny* > > > > > > > > Chances, luck or misfortune are governed by the law of Causation or > > Karma. > > > > God is neither partial or unjust, and everything happens according to > > one's > > > > action in the past birth. > > > > > > > > When we think we understand that the theory " Karma and Incarnation " > > alone > > > > can convince.--- what we have to enjoy is undoubtedly predestined. I > > cannot > > > > understand how the judgment of God can be, in any manner, modified or > > > > nullified by our efforts.--- > > > > > > > > Everything is predestined.---None can dodge fate.--- If one can change > > the > > > > event by one's will, then astrology has no place. > > > > > > > > Karma can be divided broadly into three kinds: Dhruda (fixed) Karma > > that > > > > one has committed an inexcusable mistake or crime in the previous > > birth, > > > > Dhruda - Adhruda (fixed/non-fixed) Karma that one would have committed > > an > > > > excusable mistake in the previous birth, and Adhruda (non-fixed) Karma > > that > > > > the crime committed may be negligible…The majority of people commit > > > > excusable mistakes called Dhruda – Adhruda Karma. Therefore Shanti will > > be > > > > done by them with or without their knowledge and they will not > > ultimately > > > > suffer… Just like one has no choice about his birth time, place and his > > > > parents, so also there is nothing left in one's hands. Everything is > > > > pre-destined. None can change it. Then only one can use this > > > > science…Astrology is a science. It needs further research and > > confirmation. > > > > There is no use for the word " Likely " . Everything is a certainty… It > > may > > > > be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects > > of > > > > his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no > > way > > > > directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the > > effects > > > > of his Karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prasanna, > > > > >                      As per K.P.,and > > nobody/nothing > > > > can change human destiny/fate,once written by Brahma soon after one's > > > > birth...your quote of Nacchiketa is of a very rare and extra-ordinary > > > > case... > > > > >                      Guruji KSK had predicted > > the > > > > death of a retired senior retired Govt. Official who requested him > > > > to predit even the Tome of his death...which the worthy disbelieved > > > > totally,and in order to prov KSK wrong,made arrangements to sith in his > > lawn > > > > under a Garden Umbrella with a Thermos Flask full of coffee to wait out > > well > > > > past the predited thr Time of Death...but alas,from the corner of his > > eyes > > > > he was watching his dear grandson play on the verendah...and to his > > great > > > > horror he saw him walking baxckwards towards the garden and to a fall > > on the > > > > ground below and that too backwards...in a desperate attempt at > > preventing > > > > him from walking towards his certain fall,he made a dash for him,his > > foot > > > > got stuck in the crossbar of the easychair in which he was seated and > > he > > > > fell down,hitting his head on the ston steps with a resounding > > thud,and he > > > > died instantly,and to the surprise of all, the time was exactly what > > KSK had > > > > > predicted days in advance...! > > > > >                         The above has ben > > > > narrated in his original Books...and prove that Astroloby is a Vedanga > > and > > > > is born out of the Karma Theory...what is destined WILL take > > place...come > > > > what may... ! > > > > >                         This also proves the > > > > accuracy of K.P. and Krishnamurthi Ayanamsa... > > > > >                         Another " live " proof > > can > > > > be had by anyone,if he so desires : > > > > >                         First have a Birth > > Chart > > > > correctly cast by a K.P. Astrologer after the necessary corrections(if > > > > needed),are made... > > > > >                         Then,pl. note the > > exact > > > > time at which one gets a cut or has a fall with blood oozing out of the > > > > wound... > > > > >                         To your great > > chagrin, > > > > the sublords of the IVth,VIIIth & XIIth cusps,will be the > > Dasa/Bhukti/Anthra > > > > lords of the persons Dasa running at the time... ! > > > > >                         Pl. check and > > > > inform,this is a " love " proof...what more is required ? > > > > >                         With best wishes, > > > > >                         Yogesh Lajmi. > > > > >                       > > > > >                 > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ > > > > > > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > <%40> > > > > > Cc: ssagar86@ > > > > > > > > > Received: Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 6:48 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected sagarji, > > > > > your views seem to be fatalistic. Human life is just a tiny part of > > this > > > > vast BRAMHANDA.So many factors effect human life that it is not > > possible to > > > > predict what will happen in future. Astrologers can only in some way > > study > > > > the trend or tendencies.With the gene therapy even diffective genes can > > be > > > > replaced, which instigates people to go for wrong action causing wrong > > > > result. It is said person doing PAPA will get his due result in this > > KALI > > > > ERA itself. Instances may be found where even Prarabdha was changed. > > Story > > > > of NACHIKETA is known to all. Story of SAVITRI is also known to all. > > It > > > > depends on the person who has been sufferring. In fact in KALI ERA > > people > > > > do not have patience or faith that mountains can be moved.Hence no > > serious > > > > effort is done to change the destiny. Hence with all due respect to > > you > > > > please give your opinion in this regard. > > > > >  > > > > > Prasanna > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 8:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > ASTROLOGER TELLS WHAT MAY HAPPEN, BUT GOD ONLY CAN TELL WHAT EXACTLY > > WILL > > > > HAPPEN. > > > > > > > > > > Naidu KP > > > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu, > > > > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > > > > Nowroji Road, > > > > > Maharanipeta, > > > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > > > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 12:03 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Adith > > > > > MY first conference attend in Feb 1989 at Cuttack. > > > > > i have presented three papers and speak on one important subject > > called " > > > > Everything is predestined and no one can change or alter it , even the > > > > Creator lord Brahma " > > > > > We astrologers can predict the events what will happen, neither we > > can > > > > change or alter it. > > > > > I have quoted " yatha raja , tatha praja " likewise " yatha graha tatha > > > > phala " . > > > > > Almost all astrologer appreciated my speech, later Mr.Subramaniam > > asked > > > > me " ur speech truly marvelous, but can u answer for one doubt " can u > > run in > > > > a front of running vehicle by assuming that everything predestined " > > > > > my answer was " if my fate is predestined to met with accident i will > > run > > > > in front of a running bus, if my fate is not predestined for accident > > even > > > > though i run in front of a running bus , driver will try to rescue me > > and he > > > > will turn his vehicle which will kill some which has predestined is one > > > > thing on the other hand my mind will not permit me to run in front of > > > > running bus " . > > > > > All astrologers are only a reader what will happen in the future. > > > > > in fact i wont match guna kuta , i will match the girl and boy chart > > > > weather their marriage has predestined or not. > > > > > I use to predict few points of the girl/boy as per their charts.It > > > > happened too. > > > > > Regards > > > > > Sahhasra Saagara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Senthil athi_ram > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:58:28 PM > > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Adith, > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along > > with > > > > their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an > > > > astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there > > is > > > > no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. So what > > is > > > > the use for matching the charts? Actually you have to find firstly > > whether > > > > as per his destiny his Girl’s chart is available among the 10 charts > > are > > > > not? If yes, that is it else ask them to bring any other set of charts > > to > > > > find his Girl (written as per his destiny) that is all. I have written > > an > > > > article based on my past failure case (job offers) regarding “which > > > > company he will join?†in KP annual number 2010 you may refer it. > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Also during my study on Driving license one of the person who failed > > in > > > > the 1st road test asked me the following (refer Quiz-8). He was ready > > to > > > > attend ONLY ON TEST (no more test & the person was having urge etc.) > > which > > > > he should get PASS. Now you have to tell which date/time he should > > attend > > > > the test so that he will get pass on that day/time. You have to > > guarantee > > > > that he will get appointment on that date/time (there is a chance he > > can > > > > purposely get appointment for some other date/time or the date may be > > > > already booked by many candidate and full etc), the test should be > > conducted > > > > on that date/time (it should not be declared holiday or cancelled due > > to any > > > > reason etc) and also he should attend the test on that date/time > > without > > > > fail (not absent due to any reasons or there is a chance he can > > purposely > > > > not to attend test on that date/time etc) and he should get PASS. > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Are you ready to give all the above correct? Any one failure is > > > > sufficient to say that our prediction is WRONG. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > So what is our (astrologer’s) role? I personally believe that we > > are > > > > the tools through us some message is passed on the native/quarent that > > is > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > The above are my personal views and not to criticize you or anybody. > > > > >  > > > > > GOOD LUCK!! > > > > >  > > > > > D.Senthil > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:49 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sagar ji, > > > > > > > > > > I accept your points. . But if it is destined, whats the role of > > > > Astrologer in matching? Why should we match? > > > > > > > > > > Does any astrologer play role in fixing the match ? or helping to > > find > > > > the best match? > > > > > > > > > > I hope there must some logic behind in our old says.. > > > > > > > > > > As per the Astrologers guidelines if anyone follows, the incidents > > can > > > > not be stopped but the impact can be reduced. Similarly, in a chart if > > he > > > > has a poor significations for a happy marital life, if he is marched to > > a > > > > better one, there wont be permanent separation but misunderstanding or > > > > temporary separation during the unfavorable period. > > > > > Pls give your views on the above. > > > > > > > > > > With Regards > > > > > Adith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > neither guna nor kuta will helpful in matching of boy-girl horoscope > > as > > > > it is predestined and he/she should get marry what has already destined > > in > > > > their charts. > > > > > i remember one girl chart in which i had predicted short marital > > life > > > > as well as i had predicted diseases of her husband by anlysing her > > chart. > > > > Later girl married and lead marital life for few years and her faced > > health > > > > problem resulted in his death. > > > > > > > > > both in hindu predictive as well as in kp for marital life some > > > > combination and significance has given. > > > > > Regards > > > > > Sahhasra Saagara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > > Cc: Wyomesh wyomeshd > > > > > > Thu, 8 April, 2010 8:14:18 PM > > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Wyomesh, > > > > >                       Yoni Guna has been taken > > > > care of in KPDP, for your information, under compatibility...! > > > > >                        With best wishes, > > > > >                       Yogesh Lajmi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, Wyomesh wyomeshd > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wyomesh wyomeshd > > > > > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Received: Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 1:59 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > > > > > I would like to add here something... . > > > > > It is very important to see YONI GUNA. Suppose male YONI is GAU (cow) > > > > > and Female's Yoni is VYAGHRA ( LION)... Both are hard enemies. So, > > Even > > > > on matching perfect can not give satisfactory married life. > > > > > > > > > > So we should always look for traditional rules with KP. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kadavasalramani " > > <kadavasalramani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Adithj, > > > > > > > > > > > > KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of > > > > late Guruji, Sri KSK. > > > > > > It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified > > > > according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for > > matching > > > > the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. > > In > > > > this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple > > will > > > > lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this > > there is > > > > no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, > > Saturn > > > > Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes > > > > according to KP system. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > > > - > > > > > > adith kasinath.g.k > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM > > > > > > KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed > > in > > > > the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.? > > > > > > > > > > > > Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom? > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope this is being given in some sw. > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be obliged to get these details > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > Adith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > > > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > > > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > > > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Dear Suna ji,Thanks for your valuable explanation.So kind of you.You mean to say that one will be free to do according to the present sources available or the effort he himself takes to do it. I agree with this to a great extent. But if he is not destined astrologically, he may not succeed in his effort. For instance, a boy if he tries hard to get score , he can not if his chart and periods do not support. But as you said, I agree as follows:For instance, if one takes up his decision to do or no to a work according to his own thought or by some one's advice, his current deeds are controlled .He may escape from doing a wrong deed as per the past Karma. When no vehicles were invented, if a man those days has the significations of 4,11 he will get a cart or similar to that. After the inventions of the Vehicles, one will get the bike or car etc.,. It means one could be influenced with the present available sources. Similarly, one will do his deeds according to his present situation and his mind set and effort. If he is a person with any past bitter experience in any event, business, when his similar bad time comes again, he will take his decision vary cautiously sothat the impact will be reduced , though not avoided fully. So he has the control. Similarly in the present life, one has good contacts with gurus, good astrologers, well wishers , even a person with bad characters is guided properly and does some good deeds. In those days, in a joint family where there will be a Head (very old experienced person) who will lead the total family members. Everyone has to act according to his advice only. There the percentage of failures, wrong deeds were greatly reduced. Though one of the family member who has the tendency to do bad events will be under control. But once that Head passes away, the total family is collapsed and splitted. Then as there is no guidance, they act act as per the destiny without any control and face the troubles accordingly. If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope. There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control? The above are my personal points only.Your valuable inputs are welcome, as you are all much experienced person.Thanks and REgardsAdith On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote: Dear Adith ji,I also wish to add some ideas for your doubt on Kamma. If a person had done any good deeds or bad deeds in his previous birth, and if he has not finished his Karma for rebirth, he may receive passport to the next birth. Sometimes he might have low marks in his last examination in his previous birth, but enough level for a pass, he may come back to the universe to complete his lost subject and for high marks to finish his journey of life. So everyone must understand this fact of completing his weak subjects and get the highest mark rate for a pass. This is a very simple interpretation of Kamma. If a man climbs to the third floor of a building, it is undeniable true that his arriving to third floor is a result of his past action (Kamma) that is, WALKING up the stairs. And having arrived there, it is impossible for him to reach out and touch the ground with his hand, or drive a car up and down there. Obviously this is because he has gone up to the third floor. Or, having arrived at the third floor, whether he is too exhausted to continue is also related to having walked up the stairs. His arrival there, the things he is able to do there and the situation he is likely to encounter, are all certainly related to the OLD KAMMA of having walked up the stairs. But exactly which action he will perform, his reactions to the situations which arise there, whether he will take a rest, walk on, or walk back down the stairs and out of that building, are all matters which he can decide for himself in that PRESENT moment, for which he will also reap the results. Even though the action of walking up the stairs may still be influencing him (for example, with his strength sapped he may be unable to function efficiently in any given situation), whether he decides to give in to that tiredness or try to overcome it, are all matters which he can decide for himself in the present moment. Therefore OLD KAMMA should be understood in its relation to the whole cause and effect process. In terms of ethical practice, to understand the cause and effect process is to be able to learn from Old Kamma, understanding the situation at hand, and to skillfully make a plan of action for improving and correcting the future. Kalyan TW <tw853 Wed, 14 April, 2010 9:06:02 AM Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching Dear Adith ji, 1. Everything in one's life may be said as predestined at the moment of birth by past karma for the possibility of cent percent accuracy in the astrological prediction which is not the case in practice. Because please note " it may be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects of his Karma. " 2. " If the present life is totally conditioned or wholly controlled by our past actions, then certainly Karma is tantamount to fatalism or determinism or predestination. If this were true, free will would be an absurdity. Life would be purely mechanistic, not much different from a machine. Such a fatalistic doctrine is not the Buddhist law of Karma…Karma does not necessarily mean past actions. It embraces both past and present deeds. Hence in one sense, we are the result of what we were; we will be the result of what we are… The inequality that exists among mankind is the result of our own past actions and our own present doings (esp viriya 'effort' and panna 'wisdom'). We ourselves are responsible for our own. " -Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw (The Theory of Karma) 3. In the Upajjhatthana Sutta (AN 5.57), the Lord Buddha states: " I am the owner of my karma. I inherit my karma. I am born of my karma. I am related to my karma. I live supported by my karma. Whatever karma I create, whether good or evil, that I shall inherit. " Regards, TW @gro ups.com, " adith kasinath.g.k " <gkadithkasinath@ ...> wrote: > > Dear TW ji, > > Thanks for the valuable points by our Guruji. > > But I ever have teh following question in mind unanswered. > > When all is destined in one life, he can not be responsible for his deeds in > the present life. > For example, if one happens to be a bad person in all activities due to his > past bad deeds, he may not be in a position to do any good deeds in his > present life. In this case, in his next births also we can expect him to be > a bad human only. So how can one is expected to do any good deeds in his > birth? > > can you enlighten me on this? > > Regards > Adith > > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM, TW <tw853 wrote: > > > > > > > *Guruji KSK's Quotations on Karma, Destiny* > > > > Chances, luck or misfortune are governed by the law of Causation or Karma. > > God is neither partial or unjust, and everything happens according to one's > > action in the past birth. > > > > When we think we understand that the theory " Karma and Incarnation " alone > > can convince.--- what we have to enjoy is undoubtedly predestined. I cannot > > understand how the judgment of God can be, in any manner, modified or > > nullified by our efforts.--- > > > > Everything is predestined. ---None can dodge fate.--- If one can change the > > event by one's will, then astrology has no place. > > > > Karma can be divided broadly into three kinds: Dhruda (fixed) Karma that > > one has committed an inexcusable mistake or crime in the previous birth, > > Dhruda - Adhruda (fixed/non-fixed) Karma that one would have committed an > > excusable mistake in the previous birth, and Adhruda (non-fixed) Karma that > > the crime committed may be negligible…The majority of people commit > > excusable mistakes called Dhruda – Adhruda Karma. Therefore Shanti will be > > done by them with or without their knowledge and they will not ultimately > > suffer… Just like one has no choice about his birth time, place and his > > parents, so also there is nothing left in one's hands. Everything is > > pre-destined. None can change it. Then only one can use this > > science…Astrology is a science. It needs further research and confirmation. > > There is no use for the word " Likely " . Everything is a certainty… It may > > be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of > > his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way > > directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects > > of his Karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prasanna, > > >                      As per K.P.,and nobody/nothing > > can change human destiny/fate, once written by Brahma soon after one's > > birth...your quote of Nacchiketa is of a very rare and extra-ordinary > > case... > > >                      Guruji KSK had predicted the > > death of a retired senior retired Govt. Official who requested him > > to predit even the Tome of his death...which the worthy disbelieved > > totally,and in order to prov KSK wrong,made arrangements to sith in his lawn > > under a Garden Umbrella with a Thermos Flask full of coffee to wait out well > > past the predited thr Time of Death...but alas,from the corner of his eyes > > he was watching his dear grandson play on the verendah...and to his great > > horror he saw him walking baxckwards towards the garden and to a fall on the > > ground below and that too backwards... in a desperate attempt at preventing > > him from walking towards his certain fall,he made a dash for him,his foot > > got stuck in the crossbar of the easychair in which he was seated and he > > fell down,hitting his head on the ston steps with a resounding thud,and he > > died instantly,and to the surprise of all, the time was exactly what KSK had > > > predicted days in advance...! > > >                         The above has ben > > narrated in his original Books...and prove that Astroloby is a Vedanga and > > is born out of the Karma Theory...what is destined WILL take place...come > > what may... ! > > >                         This also proves the > > accuracy of K.P. and Krishnamurthi Ayanamsa... > > >                         Another " live " proof can > > be had by anyone,if he so desires : > > >                         First have a Birth Chart > > correctly cast by a K.P. Astrologer after the necessary corrections( if > > needed),are made... > > >                         Then,pl. note the exact > > time at which one gets a cut or has a fall with blood oozing out of the > > wound... > > >                         To your great chagrin, > > the sublords of the IVth,VIIIth & XIIth cusps,will be the Dasa/Bhukti/ Anthra > > lords of the persons Dasa running at the time... ! > > >                         Pl. check and > > inform,this is a " love " proof...what more is required ? > > >                         With best wishes, > > >                         Yogesh Lajmi. > > >                       > > >                 > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ > > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > @gro ups.com > > > Cc: ssagar86@ > > > > > Received: Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 6:48 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected sagarji, > > > your views seem to be fatalistic. Human life is just a tiny part of this > > vast BRAMHANDA.So many factors effect human life that it is not possible to > > predict what will happen in future. Astrologers can only in some way study > > the trend or tendencies.With the gene therapy even diffective genes can be > > replaced, which instigates people to go for wrong action causing wrong > > result. It is said person doing PAPA will get his due result in this KALI > > ERA itself. Instances may be found where even Prarabdha was changed. Story > > of NACHIKETA is known to all. Story of SAVITRI is also known to all. It > > depends on the person who has been sufferring. In fact in KALI ERA people > > do not have patience or faith that mountains can be moved.Hence no serious > > effort is done to change the destiny. Hence with all due respect to you > > please give your opinion in this regard. > > >  > > > Prasanna > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > @gro ups.com > > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 8:17 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > ASTROLOGER TELLS WHAT MAY HAPPEN, BUT GOD ONLY CAN TELL WHAT EXACTLY WILL > > HAPPEN. > > > > > > Naidu KP > > > > > > K. P. Naidu, > > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > > Nowroji Road, > > > Maharanipeta, > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > @gro ups.com > > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 12:03 AM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > Dear Adith > > > MY first conference attend in Feb 1989 at Cuttack. > > > i have presented three papers and speak on one important subject called " > > Everything is predestined and no one can change or alter it , even the > > Creator lord Brahma " > > > We astrologers can predict the events what will happen, neither we can > > change or alter it. > > > I have quoted " yatha raja , tatha praja " likewise " yatha graha tatha > > phala " . > > > Almost all astrologer appreciated my speech, later Mr.Subramaniam asked > > me " ur speech truly marvelous, but can u answer for one doubt " can u run in > > a front of running vehicle by assuming that everything predestined " > > > my answer was " if my fate is predestined to met with accident i will run > > in front of a running bus, if my fate is not predestined for accident even > > though i run in front of a running bus , driver will try to rescue me and he > > will turn his vehicle which will kill some which has predestined is one > > thing on the other hand my mind will not permit me to run in front of > > running bus " . > > > All astrologers are only a reader what will happen in the future. > > > in fact i wont match guna kuta , i will match the girl and boy chart > > weather their marriage has predestined or not. > > > I use to predict few points of the girl/boy as per their charts.It > > happened too. > > > Regards > > > Sahhasra Saagara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Senthil athi_ram > > > > @gro ups.com > > > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:58:28 PM > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Adith, > > > > > >  > > > > > > Suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with > > their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an > > astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is > > no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. So what is > > the use for matching the charts? Actually you have to find firstly whether > > as per his destiny his Girl’s chart is available among the 10 charts are > > not? If yes, that is it else ask them to bring any other set of charts to > > find his Girl (written as per his destiny) that is all. I have written an > > article based on my past failure case (job offers) regarding “which > > company he will join?†in KP annual number 2010 you may refer it. > > > > > >  > > > > > > Also during my study on Driving license one of the person who failed in > > the 1st road test asked me the following (refer Quiz-8). He was ready to > > attend ONLY ON TEST (no more test & the person was having urge etc.) which > > he should get PASS. Now you have to tell which date/time he should attend > > the test so that he will get pass on that day/time. You have to guarantee > > that he will get appointment on that date/time (there is a chance he can > > purposely get appointment for some other date/time or the date may be > > already booked by many candidate and full etc), the test should be conducted > > on that date/time (it should not be declared holiday or cancelled due to any > > reason etc) and also he should attend the test on that date/time without > > fail (not absent due to any reasons or there is a chance he can purposely > > not to attend test on that date/time etc) and he should get PASS. > > > > > >  > > > > > > Are you ready to give all the above correct? Any one failure is > > sufficient to say that our prediction is WRONG. > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > So what is our (astrologer’s) role? I personally believe that we are > > the tools through us some message is passed on the native/quarent that is > > it. > > > > > >  > > > The above are my personal views and not to criticize you or anybody. > > >  > > > GOOD LUCK!! > > >  > > > D.Senthil > > >  > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > @gro ups.com > > > Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:49 AM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > Dear Sagar ji, > > > > > > I accept your points. . But if it is destined, whats the role of > > Astrologer in matching? Why should we match? > > > > > > Does any astrologer play role in fixing the match ? or helping to find > > the best match? > > > > > > I hope there must some logic behind in our old says.. > > > > > > As per the Astrologers guidelines if anyone follows, the incidents can > > not be stopped but the impact can be reduced. Similarly, in a chart if he > > has a poor significations for a happy marital life, if he is marched to a > > better one, there wont be permanent separation but misunderstanding or > > temporary separation during the unfavorable period. > > > Pls give your views on the above. > > > > > > With Regards > > > Adith > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > neither guna nor kuta will helpful in matching of boy-girl horoscope as > > it is predestined and he/she should get marry what has already destined in > > their charts. > > > i remember one girl chart in which i had predicted short marital life > > as well as i had predicted diseases of her husband by anlysing her chart. > > Later girl married and lead marital life for few years and her faced health > > problem resulted in his death. > > > > > both in hindu predictive as well as in kp for marital life some > > combination and significance has given. > > > Regards > > > Sahhasra Saagara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > Cc: Wyomesh wyomeshd > > > > Thu, 8 April, 2010 8:14:18 PM > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Wyomesh, > > >                       Yoni Guna has been taken > > care of in KPDP, for your information, under compatibility. ..! > > >                        With best wishes, > > >                       Yogesh Lajmi. > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, Wyomesh wyomeshd > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Wyomesh wyomeshd > > > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Received: Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 1:59 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > I would like to add here something... . > > > It is very important to see YONI GUNA. Suppose male YONI is GAU (cow) > > > and Female's Yoni is VYAGHRA ( LION)... Both are hard enemies. So, Even > > on matching perfect can not give satisfactory married life. > > > > > > So we should always look for traditional rules with KP. > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kadavasalramani " <kadavasalramani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Adithj, > > > > > > > > KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of > > late Guruji, Sri KSK. > > > > It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified > > according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for matching > > the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. In > > this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple will > > lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this there is > > no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, Saturn > > Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes > > according to KP system. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > - > > > > adith kasinath.g.k > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM > > > > KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed in > > the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.? > > > > > > > > Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom? > > > > > > > > I hope this is being given in some sw. > > > > > > > > I will be obliged to get these details > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > Adith > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > > > > > > > > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Dear All It is true that every thing can not be predestined.There has to be a purpose of this creation. As they say it may be developement of soul for the ultimate solvation or nirvana.If every thing is predestined the creator is simply supervising the preprogrammed robots.This is not possible. However what is freewill.Every attribute,quality or tendency is either inbuilt by birth or the result of circumstances.environment,upbringing etc.The intelligence,power of discrimination,the desire to be good or righteous is not of our own making,-it is inuilt or circumstantial.We study the life of spritual people.Many of them were leading ordinary life till there was an external trigger in the form of a happening,meeting a guru etc.Where from the impetus to do the right karmas will come.It is there with one but absent in another.The one having this impetus has not created it ,it has come from within or from an external source. As Guru granth saheb says " Mera mujh me kuchh nahin, jo kuchh hae so tera" The whole issue is very confusing to me & may be beyond the comprehension of an ordinary human a.k.sehgal --- On Wed, 14/4/10, TW <tw853 wrote: TW <tw853 Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching Date: Wednesday, 14 April, 2010, 9:06 AM Dear Adith ji,1. Everything in one's life may be said as predestined at the moment of birth by past karma for the possibility of cent percent accuracy in the astrological prediction which is not the case in practice. Because please note "it may be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects of his Karma."2. "If the present life is totally conditioned or wholly controlled by our past actions, then certainly Karma is tantamount to fatalism or determinism or predestination. If this were true, free will would be an absurdity. Life would be purely mechanistic, not much different from a machine. Such a fatalistic doctrine is not the Buddhist law of Karma…Karma does not necessarily mean past actions. It embraces both past and present deeds. Hence in one sense, we are the result of what we were; we will be the result of what we are… The inequality that exists among mankind is the result of our own past actions and our own present doings (esp viriya 'effort' and panna 'wisdom'). We ourselves are responsible for our own."-Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw (The Theory of Karma)3. In the Upajjhatthana Sutta (AN 5.57), the Lord Buddha states:"I am the owner of my karma. I inherit my karma. I am born of my karma. I am related to my karma. I live supported by my karma. Whatever karma I create, whether good or evil, that I shall inherit."Regards,TW@gro ups.com, "adith kasinath.g.k" <gkadithkasinath@ ...> wrote:>> Dear TW ji,> > Thanks for the valuable points by our Guruji.> > But I ever have teh following question in mind unanswered.> > When all is destined in one life, he can not be responsible for his deeds in> the present life.> For example, if one happens to be a bad person in all activities due to his> past bad deeds, he may not be in a position to do any good deeds in his> present life. In this case, in his next births also we can expect him to be> a bad human only. So how can one is expected to do any good deeds in his> birth?> > can you enlighten me on this?> > Regards> Adith> > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM, TW <tw853 wrote:> > >> >> > *Guruji KSK's Quotations on Karma, Destiny*> >> > Chances, luck or misfortune are governed by the law of Causation or Karma.> > God is neither partial or unjust, and everything happens according to one's> > action in the past birth.> >> > When we think we understand that the theory "Karma and Incarnation" alone> > can convince.--- what we have to enjoy is undoubtedly predestined. I cannot> > understand how the judgment of God can be, in any manner, modified or> > nullified by our efforts.---> >> > Everything is predestined. ---None can dodge fate.--- If one can change the> > event by one's will, then astrology has no place.> >> > Karma can be divided broadly into three kinds: Dhruda (fixed) Karma that> > one has committed an inexcusable mistake or crime in the previous birth,> > Dhruda - Adhruda (fixed/non-fixed) Karma that one would have committed an> > excusable mistake in the previous birth, and Adhruda (non-fixed) Karma that> > the crime committed may be negligible…The majority of people commit> > excusable mistakes called Dhruda – Adhruda Karma. Therefore Shanti will be> > done by them with or without their knowledge and they will not ultimately> > suffer… Just like one has no choice about his birth time, place and his> > parents, so also there is nothing left in one's hands. Everything is> > pre-destined. None can change it. Then only one can use this> > science…Astrology is a science. It needs further research and confirmation.> > There is no use for the word "Likely". Everything is a certainty… It may> > be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of> > his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way> > directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects> > of his Karma.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Prasanna,> > >                      As per K.P.,and nobody/nothing> > can change human destiny/fate, once written by Brahma soon after one's> > birth...your quote of Nacchiketa is of a very rare and extra-ordinary> > case...> > >                      Guruji KSK had predicted the> > death of a retired senior retired Govt. Official who requested him> > to predit even the Tome of his death...which the worthy disbelieved> > totally,and in order to prov KSK wrong,made arrangements to sith in his lawn> > under a Garden Umbrella with a Thermos Flask full of coffee to wait out well> > past the predited thr Time of Death...but alas,from the corner of his eyes> > he was watching his dear grandson play on the verendah...and to his great> > horror he saw him walking baxckwards towards the garden and to a fall on the> > ground below and that too backwards... in a desperate attempt at preventing> > him from walking towards his certain fall,he made a dash for him,his foot> > got stuck in the crossbar of the easychair in which he was seated and he> > fell down,hitting his head on the ston steps with a resounding thud,and he> > died instantly,and to the surprise of all, the time was exactly what KSK had> > > predicted days in advance...!> > >                         The above has ben> > narrated in his original Books...and prove that Astroloby is a Vedanga and> > is born out of the Karma Theory...what is destined WILL take place...come> > what may... !> > >                         This also proves the> > accuracy of K.P. and Krishnamurthi Ayanamsa...> > >                         Another "live" proof can> > be had by anyone,if he so desires :> > >                         First have a Birth Chart> > correctly cast by a K.P. Astrologer after the necessary corrections( if> > needed),are made...> > >                         Then,pl. note the exact> > time at which one gets a cut or has a fall with blood oozing out of the> > wound...> > >                         To your great chagrin,> > the sublords of the IVth,VIIIth & XIIth cusps,will be the Dasa/Bhukti/ Anthra> > lords of the persons Dasa running at the time... !> > >                         Pl. check and> > inform,this is a "love" proof...what more is required ?> > >                         With best wishes,> > >                         Yogesh Lajmi.> > >                      Â> > >                Â> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@> >> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Cc: ssagar86@> >> > > Received: Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 6:48 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Respected sagarji,> > > your views seem to be fatalistic. Human life is just a tiny part of this> > vast BRAMHANDA.So many factors effect human life that it is not possible to> > predict what will happen in future. Astrologers can only in some way study> > the trend or tendencies.With the gene therapy even diffective genes can be> > replaced, which instigates people to go for wrong action causing wrong> > result. It is said person doing PAPA will get his due result in this KALI> > ERA itself. Instances may be found where even Prarabdha was changed. Story> > of NACHIKETA is known to all. Story of SAVITRI is also known to all. It> > depends on the person who has been sufferring. In fact in KALI ERA people> > do not have patience or faith that mountains can be moved.Hence no serious> > effort is done to change the destiny. Hence with all due respect to you> > please give your opinion in this regard.> > > Â> > > Prasanna> > > Â> >> > >> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 8:17 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > >> > > ASTROLOGER TELLS WHAT MAY HAPPEN, BUT GOD ONLY CAN TELL WHAT EXACTLY WILL> > HAPPEN.> > >> > > Naidu KP> > >> > > K. P. Naidu,> > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > > Nowroji Road,> > > Maharanipeta,> > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 12:03 AM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > > Dear Adith> > > MY first conference attend in Feb 1989 at Cuttack.> > > i have presented three papers and speak on one important subject called "> > Everything is predestined and no one can change or alter it , even the> > Creator lord Brahma"> > > We astrologers can predict the events what will happen, neither we can> > change or alter it.> > > I have quoted " yatha raja , tatha praja" likewise "yatha graha tatha> > phala".> > > Almost all astrologer appreciated my speech, later Mr.Subramaniam asked> > me " ur speech truly marvelous, but can u answer for one doubt" can u run in> > a front of running vehicle by assuming that everything predestined"> > > my answer was " if my fate is predestined to met with accident i will run> > in front of a running bus, if my fate is not predestined for accident even> > though i run in front of a running bus , driver will try to rescue me and he> > will turn his vehicle which will kill some which has predestined is one> > thing on the other hand my mind will not permit me to run in front of> > running bus".> > > All astrologers are only a reader what will happen in the future.> > > in fact i wont match guna kuta , i will match the girl and boy chart> > weather their marriage has predestined or not.> > > I use to predict few points of the girl/boy as per their charts.It> > happened too.> > > Regards> > > Sahhasra Saagara> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Senthil athi_ram >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:58:28 PM> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Adith,> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with> > their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an> > astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is> > no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. So what is> > the use for matching the charts? Actually you have to find firstly whether> > as per his destiny his Girl’s chart is available among the 10 charts are> > not? If yes, that is it else ask them to bring any other set of charts to> > find his Girl (written as per his destiny) that is all. I have written an> > article based on my past failure case (job offers) regarding “which> > company he will join?†in KP annual number 2010 you may refer it.> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Also during my study on Driving license one of the person who failed in> > the 1st road test asked me the following (refer Quiz-8). He was ready to> > attend ONLY ON TEST (no more test & the person was having urge etc.) which> > he should get PASS. Now you have to tell which date/time he should attend> > the test so that he will get pass on that day/time. You have to guarantee> > that he will get appointment on that date/time (there is a chance he can> > purposely get appointment for some other date/time or the date may be> > already booked by many candidate and full etc), the test should be conducted> > on that date/time (it should not be declared holiday or cancelled due to any> > reason etc) and also he should attend the test on that date/time without> > fail (not absent due to any reasons or there is a chance he can purposely> > not to attend test on that date/time etc) and he should get PASS.> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Are you ready to give all the above correct? Any one failure is> > sufficient to say that our prediction is WRONG.> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > > So what is our (astrologer’s) role? I personally believe that we are> > the tools through us some message is passed on the native/quarent that is> > it.> > >> > > Â> > > The above are my personal views and not to criticize you or anybody.> > > Â> > > GOOD LUCK!!> > > Â> > > D.Senthil> > > Â> > >> > >> > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:49 AM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Dear Sagar ji,> > >> > > I accept your points. . But if it is destined, whats the role of> > Astrologer in matching? Why should we match?> > >> > > Does any astrologer play role in fixing the match ? or helping to find> > the best match?> > >> > > I hope there must some logic behind in our old says..> > >> > > As per the Astrologers guidelines if anyone follows, the incidents can> > not be stopped but the impact can be reduced. Similarly, in a chart if he> > has a poor significations for a happy marital life, if he is marched to a> > better one, there wont be permanent separation but misunderstanding or> > temporary separation during the unfavorable period.> > > Pls give your views on the above.> > >> > > With Regards> > > Adith> > >> > >> > >> > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi> > > neither guna nor kuta will helpful in matching of boy-girl horoscope as> > it is predestined and he/she should get marry what has already destined in> > their charts.> > > i remember one girl chart in which i had predicted short marital life> > as well as i had predicted diseases of her husband by anlysing her chart.> > Later girl married and lead marital life for few years and her faced health> > problem resulted in his death.> >> > > both in hindu predictive as well as in kp for marital life some> > combination and significance has given.> > > Regards> > > Sahhasra Saagara> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >> > >> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > > Cc: Wyomesh wyomeshd >> > > Thu, 8 April, 2010 8:14:18 PM> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Wyomesh,> > >                       Yoni Guna has been taken> > care of in KPDP, for your information, under compatibility. ..!> > >                        With best wishes,> > >                       Yogesh Lajmi.> >> > >> > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, Wyomesh wyomeshd > wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > > Wyomesh wyomeshd >> > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > >> > >> > > Received: Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 1:59 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > > Hello> > >> > > I would like to add here something... .> > > It is very important to see YONI GUNA. Suppose male YONI is GAU (cow)> > > and Female's Yoni is VYAGHRA ( LION)... Both are hard enemies. So, Even> > on matching perfect can not give satisfactory married life.> > >> > > So we should always look for traditional rules with KP.> > >> > > Thank you> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "kadavasalramani" <kadavasalramani@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sri Adithj,> > > >> > > > KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of> > late Guruji, Sri KSK.> > > > It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified> > according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for matching> > the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. In> > this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple will> > lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this there is> > no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, Saturn> > Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes> > according to KP system.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > -> > > > adith kasinath.g.k> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM> > > > KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear friends,> > > >> > > > Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed in> > the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.?> > > >> > > > Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom?> > > >> > > > I hope this is being given in some sw.> > > >> > > > I will be obliged to get these details> > > >> > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > Adith> > > >> > >> > >> > > Â> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php> > >> > >> > >> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php> > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Dear Tw ji,Thanks for your valuable inputs.It is very difficult to understand the whole!It is beyond our imagination !One must be destined to understand this too!Thanks and RegardsAdith On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:02 AM, TW <tw853 wrote: Dear Adith ji, It is indeed very difficult to classify Karma according to the time in which effects are worked out. Regards, TW Theory of Karma by Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw 1. Immediately Effective (ditthadhammavedaniya) Karma- in the present lifetime 2. Subsequently Effective (uppapajjavedaniya) Karma- in the immediately following lifetime 3. Indefinitely Effective (aparapariyavedaniya) Karma-- in lifetimes two or more in the future 4. Defunct or Ineffective (ahosi) Karma- kamma whose effects have ripened already Immediately Effective Karma is that which is experienced in this present life. According to the Abhidhamma one does both good and evil during the javana process (thought-impulsion), which usually lasts for seven thought-moments. The effect of the first thought-moment, being the weakest, one may reap in this life itself. This is called the Immediately Effective Karma. If it does not operate in this life, it is called `Defunct or Ineffective' Karma. The next weakest is the seventh thought-moment. Its effect one may reap in the subsequence birth. This is called `Subsequently Effective' Karma. This, too, is called Defunct or Ineffective Karma if it does not operate in the second birth. The effect of the intermediate thought-moments may take place at any time until one attains Nibbana. This type of Karma is known as `Indefinitely Effective' Karma. No one, not even the Buddhas and Arahantas, is exempt from this class of Karma which one may experience in the course of one's wandering in Samsara. There is no special class of Karma known as Defunct or Ineffective, but when such actions that should produce their effects in this life or in a subsequent life do not operate, they are termed Defunct or Ineffective Karma. , " adith kasinath.g.k " <gkadithkasinath wrote: > > Dear Tinwin ji, > > Thanks for your valuable inputs. > > But I realise it is not so easy to understand about the Karma ! > > With Regards > Adith > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:06 AM, TW <tw853 wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Adith ji, > > 1. Everything in one's life may be said as predestined at the moment of > > birth by past karma for the possibility of cent percent accuracy in the > > astrological prediction which is not the case in practice. Because please > > note " it may be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the > > effects of his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are > > in no way directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold > > the effects of his Karma. " > > 2. " If the present life is totally conditioned or wholly controlled by our > > past actions, then certainly Karma is tantamount to fatalism or determinism > > or predestination. If this were true, free will would be an absurdity. Life > > would be purely mechanistic, not much different from a machine. Such a > > fatalistic doctrine is not the Buddhist law of Karma…Karma does not > > necessarily mean past actions. It embraces both past and present deeds. > > Hence in one sense, we are the result of what we were; we will be the result > > of what we are… The inequality that exists among mankind is the result of > > our own past actions and our own present doings (esp viriya 'effort' and > > panna 'wisdom'). We ourselves are responsible for our own. " > > -Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw (The Theory of Karma) > > 3. In the Upajjhatthana Sutta (AN 5.57), the Lord Buddha states: > > " I am the owner of my karma. I inherit my karma. I am born of my karma. I > > am related to my karma. I live supported by my karma. Whatever karma I > > create, whether good or evil, that I shall inherit. " > > Regards, > > TW > > > > > > <%40>, " adith > > kasinath.g.k " <gkadithkasinath@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear TW ji, > > > > > > Thanks for the valuable points by our Guruji. > > > > > > But I ever have teh following question in mind unanswered. > > > > > > When all is destined in one life, he can not be responsible for his deeds > > in > > > the present life. > > > For example, if one happens to be a bad person in all activities due to > > his > > > past bad deeds, he may not be in a position to do any good deeds in his > > > present life. In this case, in his next births also we can expect him to > > be > > > a bad human only. So how can one is expected to do any good deeds in his > > > birth? > > > > > > can you enlighten me on this? > > > > > > Regards > > > Adith > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM, TW <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Guruji KSK's Quotations on Karma, Destiny* > > > > > > > > Chances, luck or misfortune are governed by the law of Causation or > > Karma. > > > > God is neither partial or unjust, and everything happens according to > > one's > > > > action in the past birth. > > > > > > > > When we think we understand that the theory " Karma and Incarnation " > > alone > > > > can convince.--- what we have to enjoy is undoubtedly predestined. I > > cannot > > > > understand how the judgment of God can be, in any manner, modified or > > > > nullified by our efforts.--- > > > > > > > > Everything is predestined.---None can dodge fate.--- If one can change > > the > > > > event by one's will, then astrology has no place. > > > > > > > > Karma can be divided broadly into three kinds: Dhruda (fixed) Karma > > that > > > > one has committed an inexcusable mistake or crime in the previous > > birth, > > > > Dhruda - Adhruda (fixed/non-fixed) Karma that one would have committed > > an > > > > excusable mistake in the previous birth, and Adhruda (non-fixed) Karma > > that > > > > the crime committed may be negligible…The majority of people commit > > > > excusable mistakes called Dhruda – Adhruda Karma. Therefore Shanti will > > be > > > > done by them with or without their knowledge and they will not > > ultimately > > > > suffer… Just like one has no choice about his birth time, place and his > > > > parents, so also there is nothing left in one's hands. Everything is > > > > pre-destined. None can change it. Then only one can use this > > > > science…Astrology is a science. It needs further research and > > confirmation. > > > > There is no use for the word " Likely " . Everything is a certainty… It > > may > > > > be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects > > of > > > > his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no > > way > > > > directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the > > effects > > > > of his Karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prasanna, > > > > >                      As per K.P.,and > > nobody/nothing > > > > can change human destiny/fate,once written by Brahma soon after one's > > > > birth...your quote of Nacchiketa is of a very rare and extra-ordinary > > > > case... > > > > >                      Guruji KSK had predicted > > the > > > > death of a retired senior retired Govt. Official who requested him > > > > to predit even the Tome of his death...which the worthy disbelieved > > > > totally,and in order to prov KSK wrong,made arrangements to sith in his > > lawn > > > > under a Garden Umbrella with a Thermos Flask full of coffee to wait out > > well > > > > past the predited thr Time of Death...but alas,from the corner of his > > eyes > > > > he was watching his dear grandson play on the verendah...and to his > > great > > > > horror he saw him walking baxckwards towards the garden and to a fall > > on the > > > > ground below and that too backwards...in a desperate attempt at > > preventing > > > > him from walking towards his certain fall,he made a dash for him,his > > foot > > > > got stuck in the crossbar of the easychair in which he was seated and > > he > > > > fell down,hitting his head on the ston steps with a resounding > > thud,and he > > > > died instantly,and to the surprise of all, the time was exactly what > > KSK had > > > > > predicted days in advance...! > > > > >                         The above has ben > > > > narrated in his original Books...and prove that Astroloby is a Vedanga > > and > > > > is born out of the Karma Theory...what is destined WILL take > > place...come > > > > what may... ! > > > > >                         This also proves the > > > > accuracy of K.P. and Krishnamurthi Ayanamsa... > > > > >                         Another " live " proof > > can > > > > be had by anyone,if he so desires : > > > > >                         First have a Birth > > Chart > > > > correctly cast by a K.P. Astrologer after the necessary corrections(if > > > > needed),are made... > > > > >                         Then,pl. note the > > exact > > > > time at which one gets a cut or has a fall with blood oozing out of the > > > > wound... > > > > >                         To your great > > chagrin, > > > > the sublords of the IVth,VIIIth & XIIth cusps,will be the > > Dasa/Bhukti/Anthra > > > > lords of the persons Dasa running at the time... ! > > > > >                         Pl. check and > > > > inform,this is a " love " proof...what more is required ? > > > > >                         With best wishes, > > > > >                         Yogesh Lajmi. > > > > >                       > > > > >                 > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ > > > > > > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > <%40> > > > > > Cc: ssagar86@ > > > > > > > > > Received: Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 6:48 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected sagarji, > > > > > your views seem to be fatalistic. Human life is just a tiny part of > > this > > > > vast BRAMHANDA.So many factors effect human life that it is not > > possible to > > > > predict what will happen in future. Astrologers can only in some way > > study > > > > the trend or tendencies.With the gene therapy even diffective genes can > > be > > > > replaced, which instigates people to go for wrong action causing wrong > > > > result. It is said person doing PAPA will get his due result in this > > KALI > > > > ERA itself. Instances may be found where even Prarabdha was changed. > > Story > > > > of NACHIKETA is known to all. Story of SAVITRI is also known to all. > > It > > > > depends on the person who has been sufferring. In fact in KALI ERA > > people > > > > do not have patience or faith that mountains can be moved.Hence no > > serious > > > > effort is done to change the destiny. Hence with all due respect to > > you > > > > please give your opinion in this regard. > > > > >  > > > > > Prasanna > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 8:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > ASTROLOGER TELLS WHAT MAY HAPPEN, BUT GOD ONLY CAN TELL WHAT EXACTLY > > WILL > > > > HAPPEN. > > > > > > > > > > Naidu KP > > > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu, > > > > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > > > > Nowroji Road, > > > > > Maharanipeta, > > > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > > > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 12:03 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Adith > > > > > MY first conference attend in Feb 1989 at Cuttack. > > > > > i have presented three papers and speak on one important subject > > called " > > > > Everything is predestined and no one can change or alter it , even the > > > > Creator lord Brahma " > > > > > We astrologers can predict the events what will happen, neither we > > can > > > > change or alter it. > > > > > I have quoted " yatha raja , tatha praja " likewise " yatha graha tatha > > > > phala " . > > > > > Almost all astrologer appreciated my speech, later Mr.Subramaniam > > asked > > > > me " ur speech truly marvelous, but can u answer for one doubt " can u > > run in > > > > a front of running vehicle by assuming that everything predestined " > > > > > my answer was " if my fate is predestined to met with accident i will > > run > > > > in front of a running bus, if my fate is not predestined for accident > > even > > > > though i run in front of a running bus , driver will try to rescue me > > and he > > > > will turn his vehicle which will kill some which has predestined is one > > > > thing on the other hand my mind will not permit me to run in front of > > > > running bus " . > > > > > All astrologers are only a reader what will happen in the future. > > > > > in fact i wont match guna kuta , i will match the girl and boy chart > > > > weather their marriage has predestined or not. > > > > > I use to predict few points of the girl/boy as per their charts.It > > > > happened too. > > > > > Regards > > > > > Sahhasra Saagara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Senthil athi_ram > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:58:28 PM > > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Adith, > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along > > with > > > > their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an > > > > astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there > > is > > > > no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. So what > > is > > > > the use for matching the charts? Actually you have to find firstly > > whether > > > > as per his destiny his Girl’s chart is available among the 10 charts > > are > > > > not? If yes, that is it else ask them to bring any other set of charts > > to > > > > find his Girl (written as per his destiny) that is all. I have written > > an > > > > article based on my past failure case (job offers) regarding “which > > > > company he will join?†in KP annual number 2010 you may refer it. > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Also during my study on Driving license one of the person who failed > > in > > > > the 1st road test asked me the following (refer Quiz-8). He was ready > > to > > > > attend ONLY ON TEST (no more test & the person was having urge etc.) > > which > > > > he should get PASS. Now you have to tell which date/time he should > > attend > > > > the test so that he will get pass on that day/time. You have to > > guarantee > > > > that he will get appointment on that date/time (there is a chance he > > can > > > > purposely get appointment for some other date/time or the date may be > > > > already booked by many candidate and full etc), the test should be > > conducted > > > > on that date/time (it should not be declared holiday or cancelled due > > to any > > > > reason etc) and also he should attend the test on that date/time > > without > > > > fail (not absent due to any reasons or there is a chance he can > > purposely > > > > not to attend test on that date/time etc) and he should get PASS. > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Are you ready to give all the above correct? Any one failure is > > > > sufficient to say that our prediction is WRONG. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > So what is our (astrologer’s) role? I personally believe that we > > are > > > > the tools through us some message is passed on the native/quarent that > > is > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > The above are my personal views and not to criticize you or anybody. > > > > >  > > > > > GOOD LUCK!! > > > > >  > > > > > D.Senthil > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:49 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sagar ji, > > > > > > > > > > I accept your points. . But if it is destined, whats the role of > > > > Astrologer in matching? Why should we match? > > > > > > > > > > Does any astrologer play role in fixing the match ? or helping to > > find > > > > the best match? > > > > > > > > > > I hope there must some logic behind in our old says.. > > > > > > > > > > As per the Astrologers guidelines if anyone follows, the incidents > > can > > > > not be stopped but the impact can be reduced. Similarly, in a chart if > > he > > > > has a poor significations for a happy marital life, if he is marched to > > a > > > > better one, there wont be permanent separation but misunderstanding or > > > > temporary separation during the unfavorable period. > > > > > Pls give your views on the above. > > > > > > > > > > With Regards > > > > > Adith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > neither guna nor kuta will helpful in matching of boy-girl horoscope > > as > > > > it is predestined and he/she should get marry what has already destined > > in > > > > their charts. > > > > > i remember one girl chart in which i had predicted short marital > > life > > > > as well as i had predicted diseases of her husband by anlysing her > > chart. > > > > Later girl married and lead marital life for few years and her faced > > health > > > > problem resulted in his death. > > > > > > > > > both in hindu predictive as well as in kp for marital life some > > > > combination and significance has given. > > > > > Regards > > > > > Sahhasra Saagara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > > Cc: Wyomesh wyomeshd > > > > > > Thu, 8 April, 2010 8:14:18 PM > > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Wyomesh, > > > > >                       Yoni Guna has been taken > > > > care of in KPDP, for your information, under compatibility...! > > > > >                        With best wishes, > > > > >                       Yogesh Lajmi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, Wyomesh wyomeshd > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wyomesh wyomeshd > > > > > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Received: Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 1:59 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > > > > > I would like to add here something... . > > > > > It is very important to see YONI GUNA. Suppose male YONI is GAU (cow) > > > > > and Female's Yoni is VYAGHRA ( LION)... Both are hard enemies. So, > > Even > > > > on matching perfect can not give satisfactory married life. > > > > > > > > > > So we should always look for traditional rules with KP. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kadavasalramani " > > <kadavasalramani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Adithj, > > > > > > > > > > > > KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of > > > > late Guruji, Sri KSK. > > > > > > It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified > > > > according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for > > matching > > > > the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. > > In > > > > this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple > > will > > > > lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this > > there is > > > > no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, > > Saturn > > > > Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes > > > > according to KP system. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > > > - > > > > > > adith kasinath.g.k > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM > > > > > > KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed > > in > > > > the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.? > > > > > > > > > > > > Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom? > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope this is being given in some sw. > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be obliged to get these details > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > Adith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > > > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > > > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > > > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Dear Adith, // If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope. There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control?// As per my view if the person has to meet with an accident in a particular moment but no death is indicated that is including DBA as well as transit don't signify/agree for death(badaka/maraka etc) then some how he/she will escape by wearing helmet or without Helmet. I have explained few months back in this forum. During my advanced astrology study time (may be year 2000) one accident case chat was discussed in the class who didn’t die but went to coma stage. Similarly, suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. Due to some reason they may ignore or misguided by some other astrologer/somebody etc and finally they may not be going for the marriage with girl you have suggested as THE BEST MATCH.(Hope this may be happening for most Astrologers too.) So as an astrologer what are you controlling here? I believe that you are doing you own karma only (say astrologer work/duty) Hope you can understand it now and the above are my personal views only. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil --- On Wed, 4/14/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinathRe: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 7:25 PM Dear Suna ji,Thanks for your valuable explanation.So kind of you.You mean to say that one will be free to do according to the present sources available or the effort he himself takes to do it. I agree with this to a great extent. But if he is not destined astrologically, he may not succeed in his effort.For instance, a boy if he tries hard to get score , he can not if his chart and periods do not support. But as you said, I agree as follows:For instance, if one takes up his decision to do or no to a work according to his own thought or by some one's advice, his current deeds are controlled .He may escape from doing a wrong deed as per the past Karma.When no vehicles were invented, if a man those days has the significations of 4,11 he will get a cart or similar to that. After the inventions of the Vehicles, one will get the bike or car etc.,. It means one could be influenced with the present available sources. Similarly, one will do his deeds according to his present situation and his mind set and effort. If he is a person with any past bitter experience in any event, business, when his similar bad time comes again, he will take his decision vary cautiously sothat the impact will be reduced , though not avoided fully. So he has the control.Similarly in the present life, one has good contacts with gurus, good astrologers, well wishers , even a person with bad characters is guided properly and does some good deeds. In those days, in a joint family where there will be a Head (very old experienced person) who will lead the total family members. Everyone has to act according to his advice only. There the percentage of failures, wrong deeds were greatly reduced. Though one of the family member who has the tendency to do bad events will be under control. But once that Head passes away, the total family is collapsed and splitted. Then as there is no guidance, they act act as per the destiny without any control and face the troubles accordingly.If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope.There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control?The above are my personal points only.Your valuable inputs are welcome, as you are all much experienced person.Thanks and REgardsAdith On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote: Dear Adith ji,I also wish to add some ideas for your doubt on Kamma. If a person had done any good deeds or bad deeds in his previous birth, and if he has not finished his Karma for rebirth, he may receive passport to the next birth. Sometimes he might have low marks in his last examination in his previous birth, but enough level for a pass, he may come back to the universe to complete his lost subject and for high marks to finish his journey of life. So everyone must understand this fact of completing his weak subjects and get the highest mark rate for a pass. This is a very simple interpretation of Kamma. If a man climbs to the third floor of a building, it is undeniable true that his arriving to third floor is a result of his past action (Kamma) that is, WALKING up the stairs. And having arrived there, it is impossible for him to reach out and touch the ground with his hand, or drive a car up and down there. Obviously this is because he has gone up to the third floor. Or, having arrived at the third floor, whether he is too exhausted to continue is also related to having walked up the stairs. His arrival there, the things he is able to do there and the situation he is likely to encounter, are all certainly related to the OLD KAMMA of having walked up the stairs. But exactly which action he will perform, his reactions to the situations which arise there, whether he will take a rest, walk on, or walk back down the stairs and out of that building, are all matters which he can decide for himself in that PRESENT moment, for which he will also reap the results. Even though the action of walking up the stairs may still be influencing him (for example, with his strength sapped he may be unable to function efficiently in any given situation), whether he decides to give in to that tiredness or try to overcome it, are all matters which he can decide for himself in the present moment. Therefore OLD KAMMA should be understood in its relation to the whole cause and effect process. In terms of ethical practice, to understand the cause and effect process is to be able to learn from Old Kamma, understanding the situation at hand, and to skillfully make a plan of action for improving and correcting the future. Kalyan TW <tw853 > @gro ups.comWed, 14 April, 2010 9:06:02 AM Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching Dear Adith ji,1. Everything in one's life may be said as predestined at the moment of birth by past karma for the possibility of cent percent accuracy in the astrological prediction which is not the case in practice. Because please note "it may be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects of his Karma."2. "If the present life is totally conditioned or wholly controlled by our past actions, then certainly Karma is tantamount to fatalism or determinism or predestination. If this were true, free will would be an absurdity. Life would be purely mechanistic, not much different from a machine. Such a fatalistic doctrine is not the Buddhist law of Karma…Karma does not necessarily mean past actions. It embraces both past and present deeds. Hence in one sense, we are the result of what we were; we will be the result of what we are… The inequality that exists among mankind is the result of our own past actions and our own present doings (esp viriya 'effort' and panna 'wisdom'). We ourselves are responsible for our own."-Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw (The Theory of Karma)3. In the Upajjhatthana Sutta (AN 5.57), the Lord Buddha states:"I am the owner of my karma. I inherit my karma. I am born of my karma. I am related to my karma. I live supported by my karma. Whatever karma I create, whether good or evil, that I shall inherit."Regards,TW @gro ups.com, "adith kasinath.g.k" <gkadithkasinath@ ...> wrote:>> Dear TW ji,> > Thanks for the valuable points by our Guruji.> > But I ever have teh following question in mind unanswered.> > When all is destined in one life, he can not be responsible for his deeds in> the present life.> For example, if one happens to be a bad person in all activities due to his> past bad deeds, he may not be in a position to do any good deeds in his> present life. In this case, in his next births also we can expect him to be> a bad human only. So how can one is expected to do any good deeds in his> birth?> > can you enlighten me on this?> > Regards> Adith> > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM, TW <tw853 wrote:> > >> >> > *Guruji KSK's Quotations on Karma, Destiny*> >> > Chances, luck or misfortune are governed by the law of Causation or Karma.> > God is neither partial or unjust, and everything happens according to one's> > action in the past birth.> >> > When we think we understand that the theory "Karma and Incarnation" alone> > can convince.--- what we have to enjoy is undoubtedly predestined. I cannot> > understand how the judgment of God can be, in any manner, modified or> > nullified by our efforts.---> >> > Everything is predestined. ---None can dodge fate.--- If one can change the> > event by one's will, then astrology has no place.> >> > Karma can be divided broadly into three kinds: Dhruda (fixed) Karma that> > one has committed an inexcusable mistake or crime in the previous birth,> > Dhruda - Adhruda (fixed/non-fixed) Karma that one would have committed an> > excusable mistake in the previous birth, and Adhruda (non-fixed) Karma that> > the crime committed may be negligible…The majority of people commit> > excusable mistakes called Dhruda – Adhruda Karma. Therefore Shanti will be> > done by them with or without their knowledge and they will not ultimately> > suffer… Just like one has no choice about his birth time, place and his> > parents, so also there is nothing left in one's hands. Everything is> > pre-destined. None can change it. Then only one can use this> > science…Astrology is a science. It needs further research and confirmation.> > There is no use for the word "Likely". Everything is a certainty… It may> > be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of> > his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way> > directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects> > of his Karma.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Prasanna,> > >                      As per K.P.,and nobody/nothing> > can change human destiny/fate, once written by Brahma soon after one's> > birth...your quote of Nacchiketa is of a very rare and extra-ordinary> > case...> > >                      Guruji KSK had predicted the> > death of a retired senior retired Govt. Official who requested him> > to predit even the Tome of his death...which the worthy disbelieved> > totally,and in order to prov KSK wrong,made arrangements to sith in his lawn> > under a Garden Umbrella with a Thermos Flask full of coffee to wait out well> > past the predited thr Time of Death...but alas,from the corner of his eyes> > he was watching his dear grandson play on the verendah...and to his great> > horror he saw him walking baxckwards towards the garden and to a fall on the> > ground below and that too backwards... in a desperate attempt at preventing> > him from walking towards his certain fall,he made a dash for him,his foot> > got stuck in the crossbar of the easychair in which he was seated and he> > fell down,hitting his head on the ston steps with a resounding thud,and he> > died instantly,and to the surprise of all, the time was exactly what KSK had> > > predicted days in advance...!> > >                         The above has ben> > narrated in his original Books...and prove that Astroloby is a Vedanga and> > is born out of the Karma Theory...what is destined WILL take place...come> > what may... !> > >                         This also proves the> > accuracy of K.P. and Krishnamurthi Ayanamsa...> > >                         Another "live" proof can> > be had by anyone,if he so desires :> > >                         First have a Birth Chart> > correctly cast by a K.P. Astrologer after the necessary corrections( if> > needed),are made...> > >                         Then,pl. note the exact> > time at which one gets a cut or has a fall with blood oozing out of the> > wound...> > >                         To your great chagrin,> > the sublords of the IVth,VIIIth & XIIth cusps,will be the Dasa/Bhukti/ Anthra> > lords of the persons Dasa running at the time... !> > >                         Pl. check and> > inform,this is a "love" proof...what more is required ?> > >                         With best wishes,> > >                         Yogesh Lajmi.> > >                      Â> > >                Â> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@> >> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com > > > Cc: ssagar86@> >> > > Received: Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 6:48 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Respected sagarji,> > > your views seem to be fatalistic. Human life is just a tiny part of this> > vast BRAMHANDA.So many factors effect human life that it is not possible to> > predict what will happen in future. Astrologers can only in some way study> > the trend or tendencies.With the gene therapy even diffective genes can be> > replaced, which instigates people to go for wrong action causing wrong> > result. It is said person doing PAPA will get his due result in this KALI> > ERA itself. Instances may be found where even Prarabdha was changed. Story> > of NACHIKETA is known to all. Story of SAVITRI is also known to all. It> > depends on the person who has been sufferring. In fact in KALI ERA people> > do not have patience or faith that mountains can be moved.Hence no serious> > effort is done to change the destiny. Hence with all due respect to you> > please give your opinion in this regard.> > > Â> > > Prasanna> > > Â> >> > >> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 8:17 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > >> > > ASTROLOGER TELLS WHAT MAY HAPPEN, BUT GOD ONLY CAN TELL WHAT EXACTLY WILL> > HAPPEN.> > >> > > Naidu KP> > >> > > K. P. Naidu,> > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > > Nowroji Road,> > > Maharanipeta,> > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 12:03 AM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > > Dear Adith> > > MY first conference attend in Feb 1989 at Cuttack.> > > i have presented three papers and speak on one important subject called "> > Everything is predestined and no one can change or alter it , even the> > Creator lord Brahma"> > > We astrologers can predict the events what will happen, neither we can> > change or alter it.> > > I have quoted " yatha raja , tatha praja" likewise "yatha graha tatha> > phala".> > > Almost all astrologer appreciated my speech, later Mr.Subramaniam asked> > me " ur speech truly marvelous, but can u answer for one doubt" can u run in> > a front of running vehicle by assuming that everything predestined"> > > my answer was " if my fate is predestined to met with accident i will run> > in front of a running bus, if my fate is not predestined for accident even> > though i run in front of a running bus , driver will try to rescue me and he> > will turn his vehicle which will kill some which has predestined is one> > thing on the other hand my mind will not permit me to run in front of> > running bus".> > > All astrologers are only a reader what will happen in the future.> > > in fact i wont match guna kuta , i will match the girl and boy chart> > weather their marriage has predestined or not.> > > I use to predict few points of the girl/boy as per their charts.It> > happened too.> > > Regards> > > Sahhasra Saagara> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Senthil athi_ram >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:58:28 PM> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Adith,> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with> > their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an> > astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is> > no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. So what is> > the use for matching the charts? Actually you have to find firstly whether> > as per his destiny his Girl’s chart is available among the 10 charts are> > not? If yes, that is it else ask them to bring any other set of charts to> > find his Girl (written as per his destiny) that is all. I have written an> > article based on my past failure case (job offers) regarding “which> > company he will join?†in KP annual number 2010 you may refer it.> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Also during my study on Driving license one of the person who failed in> > the 1st road test asked me the following (refer Quiz-8). He was ready to> > attend ONLY ON TEST (no more test & the person was having urge etc.) which> > he should get PASS. Now you have to tell which date/time he should attend> > the test so that he will get pass on that day/time. You have to guarantee> > that he will get appointment on that date/time (there is a chance he can> > purposely get appointment for some other date/time or the date may be> > already booked by many candidate and full etc), the test should be conducted> > on that date/time (it should not be declared holiday or cancelled due to any> > reason etc) and also he should attend the test on that date/time without> > fail (not absent due to any reasons or there is a chance he can purposely> > not to attend test on that date/time etc) and he should get PASS.> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Are you ready to give all the above correct? Any one failure is> > sufficient to say that our prediction is WRONG.> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > > So what is our (astrologer’s) role? I personally believe that we are> > the tools through us some message is passed on the native/quarent that is> > it.> > >> > > Â> > > The above are my personal views and not to criticize you or anybody.> > > Â> > > GOOD LUCK!!> > > Â> > > D.Senthil> > > Â> > >> > >> > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:49 AM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Dear Sagar ji,> > >> > > I accept your points. . But if it is destined, whats the role of> > Astrologer in matching? Why should we match?> > >> > > Does any astrologer play role in fixing the match ? or helping to find> > the best match?> > >> > > I hope there must some logic behind in our old says..> > >> > > As per the Astrologers guidelines if anyone follows, the incidents can> > not be stopped but the impact can be reduced. Similarly, in a chart if he> > has a poor significations for a happy marital life, if he is marched to a> > better one, there wont be permanent separation but misunderstanding or> > temporary separation during the unfavorable period.> > > Pls give your views on the above.> > >> > > With Regards> > > Adith> > >> > >> > >> > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi> > > neither guna nor kuta will helpful in matching of boy-girl horoscope as> > it is predestined and he/she should get marry what has already destined in> > their charts.> > > i remember one girl chart in which i had predicted short marital life> > as well as i had predicted diseases of her husband by anlysing her chart.> > Later girl married and lead marital life for few years and her faced health> > problem resulted in his death.> >> > > both in hindu predictive as well as in kp for marital life some> > combination and significance has given.> > > Regards> > > Sahhasra Saagara> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >> > >> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > > Cc: Wyomesh wyomeshd >> > > Thu, 8 April, 2010 8:14:18 PM> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Wyomesh,> > >                       Yoni Guna has been taken> > care of in KPDP, for your information, under compatibility. ..!> > >                        With best wishes,> > >                       Yogesh Lajmi.> >> > >> > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, Wyomesh wyomeshd > wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > > Wyomesh wyomeshd >> > > Subject: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > >> > >> > > Received: Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 1:59 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > > Hello> > >> > > I would like to add here something... .> > > It is very important to see YONI GUNA. Suppose male YONI is GAU (cow)> > > and Female's Yoni is VYAGHRA ( LION)... Both are hard enemies. So, Even> > on matching perfect can not give satisfactory married life.> > >> > > So we should always look for traditional rules with KP.> > >> > > Thank you> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "kadavasalramani" <kadavasalramani@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sri Adithj,> > > >> > > > KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of> > late Guruji, Sri KSK.> > > > It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified> > according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for matching> > the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. In> > this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple will> > lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this there is> > no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, Saturn> > Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes> > according to KP system.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > -> > > > adith kasinath.g.k> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM> > > > KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear friends,> > > >> > > > Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed in> > the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.?> > > >> > > > Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom?> > > >> > > > I hope this is being given in some sw.> > > >> > > > I will be obliged to get these details> > > >> > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > Adith> > > >> > >> > >> > > Â> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php> > >> > >> > >> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php> > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Dear Sujata ji, 1. Your concern of his 1CSL Ju+(11Bdk,6-9)closely Conj Ve(11,4-11) is understandable. 2. However Ju+ is a very strong significator of houses 1 & 3 by cuspal sublordship without any planet in its stars. Ju is in star Ma(10,5-10), and sub Ke(9)with stl Me(1,3-12) & sgl Ju. So medium longivity is expected. 3. Her 7CSL Ve(11,3-8) is in star Mo(10,5) and sub Sa(7Bdk,11-12). 4. Marriage matter would be unavoidable for her when transit Ju is passing Pisces while Sa is in Virgo. Good luck for her! (with 7CS signifying 5th & 5CSL 7th house) TW Basic Data Boy,29-7-1977,06:14AM,Nellore,14N26,79E58,KPNA 23:27:14,Asc Cn 16:22:08 Girl,13-06-1983,11:00AM,New Delhi,28N36,77E12,KPNA 23:31:48,Asc Pi 09:05:08 KPDK Matching total score 63.33%, Criterion no 10 58.33% on 15-04-2010 by KPAstro 3.5 , sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote: > > Dear TWji > I am considering a boy for my daughter. KPDP score is 59%, KPDP 10 is more than 80% but I am concerned about his longivity. His lagna sublord is ju+ in badhaksthan in rapt conjunction with ve, badhaka lord. His ju dasa will start after 13 yrs. > Would u kindly give your views about his longivity ? > His dob is 29-7-77, pob is Nellore, tob is 6-14 am. > My daughters 7th csl is csl of 6, 8 and 1 > With many thanks in advance > Regards > Sujata > > --- On Wed, 14/4/10, TW <tw853 wrote: > > TW <tw853 > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > Wednesday, 14 April, 2010, 8:34 PM >  > > > Dear Friends, > > 1. Matching is not recommendable, if the KPDP criterion no 10 " WETHER THE PERIOD LORDS NOW OPERATING IN BOTH CHARTS NOW INDICATE DESIRABILITY OF MATCHING FOR MARRIAGE " is below 51 even though total score is high. > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 5535 > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 11184?threaded= 1 > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28308?threaded= 1 > > 2. In the cases of multi-marriage, the KPDP matching scores may not be clear indicators. > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28128?threaded= 1 > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28186?threaded= 1 > > 3. In the cases of complaints for divorce, the marriage would not break down, if the criterion no 10 score is high above 51 at that time. > > 4. Request of any member for KPDP calculation would be done by KPAstro 3.5 and posted in this forum. > > Regards, > > TW > > > > @gro ups.com, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friend. > > > > > > Yes it is not in any KP Books in any language. > > > KPDP is a priceless task of KP Kuppuganapathy ji. > > > > > > To read the whole article please Go to Files->Articles- >KPDP Doc > > > > > > or > > > > > > (KP & Astrology Year Book 1997, page 32-44; also in KP E-Zine March 2007(http://loger .com) incorporated in Shri > > > Raichur’s SW and KPAstro > > > > > > Kalyan > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Niranjan Sant <shreegauriassociat es01@> > > > @gro ups.com > > > Tue, 13 April, 2010 3:05:33 PM > > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > > > What is this KPDP? Can anybody explain in details? I never came accross while going through KP Books in Marathi. > > > > > > Sant Guruji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> > > > @gro ups.com > > > Mon, 12 April, 2010 2:11:02 PM > > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet > > > Kindly installKPDP software on the group files > > > Regard > > > Sujata > > > > > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, K. P. Naidu <konathalan@ . co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >K. P. Naidu <konathalan@ . co.in> > > > >Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >@gro ups.com > > > >Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 10:18 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear sri Adith Ji, > > > > > > > >KPDP rules are available in the files section of this group in Articles section. > > > > > > > >Thanks & Regards, > > > >Naidu KP > > > > > > > >K. P. Naidu, > > > >Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > > >Nowroji Road, > > > >Maharanipeta, > > > >VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > > >Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > > > > >--- On Wed, 7/4/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> > > > >>Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >>@gro ups.com > > > >>Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 3:34 PM > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>Dear Sri Adithj, > > > >> > > > >>KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of late Guruji, Sri KSK. > > > >>It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for matching the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. In this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple will lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this there is no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, Saturn Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes according to KP system. > > > >> > > > >>Regards, > > > >> > > > >>K.S.V.Ramani > > > >>- > > > >>>adith kasinath.g.k > > > >>>@gro ups.com > > > >>>Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM > > > >>> KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>Dear friends, > > > >>> > > > >>>Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed in the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.? > > > >>> > > > >>>Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom? > > > >>> > > > >>>I hope this is being given in some sw. > > > >>> > > > >>>I will be obliged to get these details > > > >>> > > > >>>Thanks and Regards > > > >>>Adith > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > >Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Dear Senthil ji,I accept your views on the marriage point of view.But with regard to the Accident, I have not taken the example of a person who has to die in an accident. If he has to leave this world,, even if wears Helmet or any other precautionary measures, no one can help it. But my point, if one has to meet with an accident (no danger to his life), by taking precautionary measures will defintely reduce the impact, as wearing helmet.Thanks and RegardsAdith On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Senthil <athi_ram wrote: Dear Adith, // If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope. There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control?// As per my view if the person has to meet with an accident in a particular moment but no death is indicated that is including DBA as well as transit don't signify/agree for death(badaka/maraka etc) then some how he/she will escape by wearing helmet or without Helmet. I have explained few months back in this forum. During my advanced astrology study time (may be year 2000) one accident case chat was discussed in the class who didn’t die but went to coma stage. Similarly, suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. Due to some reason they may ignore or misguided by some other astrologer/somebody etc and finally they may not be going for the marriage with girl you have suggested as THE BEST MATCH.(Hope this may be happening for most Astrologers too.) So as an astrologer what are you controlling here? I believe that you are doing you own karma only (say astrologer work/duty) Hope you can understand it now and the above are my personal views only. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil --- On Wed, 4/14/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinathRe: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 7:25 PM Dear Suna ji,Thanks for your valuable explanation.So kind of you.You mean to say that one will be free to do according to the present sources available or the effort he himself takes to do it. I agree with this to a great extent. But if he is not destined astrologically, he may not succeed in his effort. For instance, a boy if he tries hard to get score , he can not if his chart and periods do not support. But as you said, I agree as follows:For instance, if one takes up his decision to do or no to a work according to his own thought or by some one's advice, his current deeds are controlled .He may escape from doing a wrong deed as per the past Karma. When no vehicles were invented, if a man those days has the significations of 4,11 he will get a cart or similar to that. After the inventions of the Vehicles, one will get the bike or car etc.,. It means one could be influenced with the present available sources. Similarly, one will do his deeds according to his present situation and his mind set and effort. If he is a person with any past bitter experience in any event, business, when his similar bad time comes again, he will take his decision vary cautiously sothat the impact will be reduced , though not avoided fully. So he has the control. Similarly in the present life, one has good contacts with gurus, good astrologers, well wishers , even a person with bad characters is guided properly and does some good deeds. In those days, in a joint family where there will be a Head (very old experienced person) who will lead the total family members. Everyone has to act according to his advice only. There the percentage of failures, wrong deeds were greatly reduced. Though one of the family member who has the tendency to do bad events will be under control. But once that Head passes away, the total family is collapsed and splitted. Then as there is no guidance, they act act as per the destiny without any control and face the troubles accordingly.If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope. There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control? The above are my personal points only.Your valuable inputs are welcome, as you are all much experienced person.Thanks and REgardsAdith On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote: Dear Adith ji,I also wish to add some ideas for your doubt on Kamma. If a person had done any good deeds or bad deeds in his previous birth, and if he has not finished his Karma for rebirth, he may receive passport to the next birth. Sometimes he might have low marks in his last examination in his previous birth, but enough level for a pass, he may come back to the universe to complete his lost subject and for high marks to finish his journey of life. So everyone must understand this fact of completing his weak subjects and get the highest mark rate for a pass. This is a very simple interpretation of Kamma. If a man climbs to the third floor of a building, it is undeniable true that his arriving to third floor is a result of his past action (Kamma) that is, WALKING up the stairs. And having arrived there, it is impossible for him to reach out and touch the ground with his hand, or drive a car up and down there. Obviously this is because he has gone up to the third floor. Or, having arrived at the third floor, whether he is too exhausted to continue is also related to having walked up the stairs. His arrival there, the things he is able to do there and the situation he is likely to encounter, are all certainly related to the OLD KAMMA of having walked up the stairs. But exactly which action he will perform, his reactions to the situations which arise there, whether he will take a rest, walk on, or walk back down the stairs and out of that building, are all matters which he can decide for himself in that PRESENT moment, for which he will also reap the results. Even though the action of walking up the stairs may still be influencing him (for example, with his strength sapped he may be unable to function efficiently in any given situation), whether he decides to give in to that tiredness or try to overcome it, are all matters which he can decide for himself in the present moment. Therefore OLD KAMMA should be understood in its relation to the whole cause and effect process. In terms of ethical practice, to understand the cause and effect process is to be able to learn from Old Kamma, understanding the situation at hand, and to skillfully make a plan of action for improving and correcting the future. Kalyan TW <tw853 > @gro ups.com Wed, 14 April, 2010 9:06:02 AM Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching Dear Adith ji,1. Everything in one's life may be said as predestined at the moment of birth by past karma for the possibility of cent percent accuracy in the astrological prediction which is not the case in practice. Because please note " it may be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects of his Karma. " 2. " If the present life is totally conditioned or wholly controlled by our past actions, then certainly Karma is tantamount to fatalism or determinism or predestination. If this were true, free will would be an absurdity. Life would be purely mechanistic, not much different from a machine. Such a fatalistic doctrine is not the Buddhist law of Karma…Karma does not necessarily mean past actions. It embraces both past and present deeds. Hence in one sense, we are the result of what we were; we will be the result of what we are… The inequality that exists among mankind is the result of our own past actions and our own present doings (esp viriya 'effort' and panna 'wisdom'). We ourselves are responsible for our own. " -Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw (The Theory of Karma)3. In the Upajjhatthana Sutta (AN 5.57), the Lord Buddha states: " I am the owner of my karma. I inherit my karma. I am born of my karma. I am related to my karma. I live supported by my karma. Whatever karma I create, whether good or evil, that I shall inherit. " Regards,TW @gro ups.com, " adith kasinath.g.k " <gkadithkasinath@ ...> wrote: >> Dear TW ji,> > Thanks for the valuable points by our Guruji.> > But I ever have teh following question in mind unanswered.> > When all is destined in one life, he can not be responsible for his deeds in > the present life.> For example, if one happens to be a bad person in all activities due to his> past bad deeds, he may not be in a position to do any good deeds in his> present life. In this case, in his next births also we can expect him to be > a bad human only. So how can one is expected to do any good deeds in his> birth?> > can you enlighten me on this?> > Regards> Adith> > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM, TW <tw853 wrote:> > >> >> > *Guruji KSK's Quotations on Karma, Destiny*> > > > Chances, luck or misfortune are governed by the law of Causation or Karma.> > God is neither partial or unjust, and everything happens according to one's> > action in the past birth.> > > > When we think we understand that the theory " Karma and Incarnation " alone> > can convince.--- what we have to enjoy is undoubtedly predestined. I cannot> > understand how the judgment of God can be, in any manner, modified or > > nullified by our efforts.---> >> > Everything is predestined. ---None can dodge fate.--- If one can change the> > event by one's will, then astrology has no place.> > > > Karma can be divided broadly into three kinds: Dhruda (fixed) Karma that> > one has committed an inexcusable mistake or crime in the previous birth,> > Dhruda - Adhruda (fixed/non-fixed) Karma that one would have committed an > > excusable mistake in the previous birth, and Adhruda (non-fixed) Karma that> > the crime committed may be negligible…The majority of people commit> > excusable mistakes called Dhruda – Adhruda Karma. Therefore Shanti will be > > done by them with or without their knowledge and they will not ultimately> > suffer… Just like one has no choice about his birth time, place and his> > parents, so also there is nothing left in one's hands. Everything is > > pre-destined. None can change it. Then only one can use this> > science…Astrology is a science. It needs further research and confirmation.> > There is no use for the word " Likely " . Everything is a certainty… It may> > be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of> > his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way> > directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects > > of his Karma.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > > > > > Dear Prasanna,> > >                      As per K.P.,and nobody/nothing> > can change human destiny/fate, once written by Brahma soon after one's> > birth...your quote of Nacchiketa is of a very rare and extra-ordinary > > case...> > >                      Guruji KSK had predicted the> > death of a retired senior retired Govt. Official who requested him> > to predit even the Tome of his death...which the worthy disbelieved > > totally,and in order to prov KSK wrong,made arrangements to sith in his lawn> > under a Garden Umbrella with a Thermos Flask full of coffee to wait out well> > past the predited thr Time of Death...but alas,from the corner of his eyes> > he was watching his dear grandson play on the verendah...and to his great > > horror he saw him walking baxckwards towards the garden and to a fall on the> > ground below and that too backwards... in a desperate attempt at preventing> > him from walking towards his certain fall,he made a dash for him,his foot > > got stuck in the crossbar of the easychair in which he was seated and he> > fell down,hitting his head on the ston steps with a resounding thud,and he> > died instantly,and to the surprise of all, the time was exactly what KSK had > > > predicted days in advance...!> > >                         The above has ben> > narrated in his original Books...and prove that Astroloby is a Vedanga and> > is born out of the Karma Theory...what is destined WILL take place...come> > what may... !> > >                         This also proves the > > accuracy of K.P. and Krishnamurthi Ayanamsa...> > >                         Another " live " proof can> > be had by anyone,if he so desires :> > >                         First have a Birth Chart > > correctly cast by a K.P. Astrologer after the necessary corrections( if> > needed),are made...> > >                         Then,pl. note the exact> > time at which one gets a cut or has a fall with blood oozing out of the> > wound...> > >                         To your great chagrin,> > the sublords of the IVth,VIIIth & XIIth cusps,will be the Dasa/Bhukti/ Anthra> > lords of the persons Dasa running at the time... ! > > >                         Pl. check and> > inform,this is a " love " proof...what more is required ?> > >                         With best wishes, > > >                         Yogesh Lajmi.> > >                      Â> > >                Â> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ wrote: > > >> > >> > > prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@> >> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com > > > Cc: ssagar86@> >> > > Received: Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 6:48 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Respected sagarji,> > > your views seem to be fatalistic. Human life is just a tiny part of this> > vast BRAMHANDA.So many factors effect human life that it is not possible to > > predict what will happen in future. Astrologers can only in some way study> > the trend or tendencies.With the gene therapy even diffective genes can be> > replaced, which instigates people to go for wrong action causing wrong > > result. It is said person doing PAPA will get his due result in this KALI> > ERA itself. Instances may be found where even Prarabdha was changed. Story> > of NACHIKETA is known to all. Story of SAVITRI is also known to all. It> > depends on the person who has been sufferring. In fact in KALI ERA people> > do not have patience or faith that mountains can be moved.Hence no serious > > effort is done to change the destiny. Hence with all due respect to you> > please give your opinion in this regard.> > > Â> > > Prasanna> > > Â> >> > > > > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 8:17 PM > > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > >> > > ASTROLOGER TELLS WHAT MAY HAPPEN, BUT GOD ONLY CAN TELL WHAT EXACTLY WILL > > HAPPEN.> > >> > > Naidu KP> > >> > > K. P. Naidu,> > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > > Nowroji Road,> > > Maharanipeta, > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > >> > >> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > @gro ups.com> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 12:03 AM> > >> > >> > >  > > >> > >> > > Dear Adith> > > MY first conference attend in Feb 1989 at Cuttack.> > > i have presented three papers and speak on one important subject called " > > Everything is predestined and no one can change or alter it , even the> > Creator lord Brahma " > > > We astrologers can predict the events what will happen, neither we can> > change or alter it. > > > I have quoted " yatha raja , tatha praja " likewise " yatha graha tatha> > phala " .> > > Almost all astrologer appreciated my speech, later Mr.Subramaniam asked> > me " ur speech truly marvelous, but can u answer for one doubt " can u run in> > a front of running vehicle by assuming that everything predestined " > > > my answer was " if my fate is predestined to met with accident i will run> > in front of a running bus, if my fate is not predestined for accident even> > though i run in front of a running bus , driver will try to rescue me and he > > will turn his vehicle which will kill some which has predestined is one> > thing on the other hand my mind will not permit me to run in front of> > running bus " .> > > All astrologers are only a reader what will happen in the future. > > > in fact i wont match guna kuta , i will match the girl and boy chart> > weather their marriage has predestined or not.> > > I use to predict few points of the girl/boy as per their charts.It> > happened too.> > > Regards> > > Sahhasra Saagara> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > >> > > Senthil athi_ram >> > > @gro ups.com > > > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:58:28 PM> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Adith,> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with > > their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an> > astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is> > no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. So what is > > the use for matching the charts? Actually you have to find firstly whether> > as per his destiny his Girl’s chart is available among the 10 charts are> > not? If yes, that is it else ask them to bring any other set of charts to > > find his Girl (written as per his destiny) that is all. I have written an> > article based on my past failure case (job offers) regarding “which> > company he will join?†in KP annual number 2010 you may refer it. > > >> > > Â> > >> > > Also during my study on Driving license one of the person who failed in> > the 1st road test asked me the following (refer Quiz-8). He was ready to> > attend ONLY ON TEST (no more test & the person was having urge etc.) which> > he should get PASS. Now you have to tell which date/time he should attend> > the test so that he will get pass on that day/time. You have to guarantee > > that he will get appointment on that date/time (there is a chance he can> > purposely get appointment for some other date/time or the date may be> > already booked by many candidate and full etc), the test should be conducted > > on that date/time (it should not be declared holiday or cancelled due to any> > reason etc) and also he should attend the test on that date/time without> > fail (not absent due to any reasons or there is a chance he can purposely > > not to attend test on that date/time etc) and he should get PASS.> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Are you ready to give all the above correct? Any one failure is> > sufficient to say that our prediction is WRONG.> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > > So what is our (astrologer’s) role? I personally believe that we are > > the tools through us some message is passed on the native/quarent that is> > it.> > >> > > Â> > > The above are my personal views and not to criticize you or anybody. > > > Â> > > GOOD LUCK!!> > > Â> > > D.Senthil> > > Â> > >> > >> > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > > wrote:> > >> > >> > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:49 AM> > >> > >> > >  > > >> > > Dear Sagar ji,> > >> > > I accept your points. . But if it is destined, whats the role of> > Astrologer in matching? Why should we match?> > > > > > Does any astrologer play role in fixing the match ? or helping to find> > the best match?> > >> > > I hope there must some logic behind in our old says..> > > > > > As per the Astrologers guidelines if anyone follows, the incidents can> > not be stopped but the impact can be reduced. Similarly, in a chart if he> > has a poor significations for a happy marital life, if he is marched to a> > better one, there wont be permanent separation but misunderstanding or> > temporary separation during the unfavorable period. > > > Pls give your views on the above.> > >> > > With Regards> > > Adith> > >> > >> > >> > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi> > > neither guna nor kuta will helpful in matching of boy-girl horoscope as > > it is predestined and he/she should get marry what has already destined in> > their charts.> > > i remember one girl chart in which i had predicted short marital life> > as well as i had predicted diseases of her husband by anlysing her chart.> > Later girl married and lead marital life for few years and her faced health > > problem resulted in his death.> >> > > both in hindu predictive as well as in kp for marital life some> > combination and significance has given.> > > Regards> > > Sahhasra Saagara > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > > > >> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > > Cc: Wyomesh wyomeshd >> > > Thu, 8 April, 2010 8:14:18 PM> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Wyomesh,> > >                       Yoni Guna has been taken> > care of in KPDP, for your information, under compatibility. ..! > > >                        With best wishes,> > >                       Yogesh Lajmi.> >> > >> > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, Wyomesh wyomeshd > wrote: > > >> > >> > >> > > Wyomesh wyomeshd >> > > Subject: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > >> > >> > > Received: Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 1:59 PM > > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > > Hello> > >> > > I would like to add here something... .> > > It is very important to see YONI GUNA. Suppose male YONI is GAU (cow) > > > and Female's Yoni is VYAGHRA ( LION)... Both are hard enemies. So, Even> > on matching perfect can not give satisfactory married life.> > >> > > So we should always look for traditional rules with KP. > > >> > > Thank you> > >> > > @gro ups.com, " kadavasalramani " <kadavasalramani@ > wrote: > > > >> > > > Dear Sri Adithj,> > > >> > > > KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of> > late Guruji, Sri KSK.> > > > It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified > > according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for matching> > the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. In> > this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple will > > lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this there is> > no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, Saturn> > Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes > > according to KP system.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > -> > > > adith kasinath.g.k> > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM> > > > KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear friends, > > > >> > > > Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed in> > the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.?> > > >> > > > Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom? > > > >> > > > I hope this is being given in some sw.> > > >> > > > I will be obliged to get these details> > > >> > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > Adith> > > >> > >> > >> > > Â> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php> > >> > > > > >> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Dear Senthil, If one was destined to suffer a bad injury in an accident,he would have forgotten to wear a helmet,or he would have suffered severe injuries,despite his wearing a helmet... that is how destiny operates...(Karma in action...). One can explain why one is lucky not to have a single accident in his entire life,only by K.P. Principles... If the Vimshottari Dasa period running is ruled by the s/lords of the cusps of IV,VIII & XII,one will surely meet with an accident... Whereas,if the setup of the sublords of the houses IV,VIII & XII are set up as follows : Venus-Saturn-Venus Venus-Merc-Venus Moon-Sun-Moon Moon-Mars-Moon Sat-Merc-Saturn such a Jatak will never suffer even a small scratch in his entire lifetime...! Also, a careful in-depth examination of the s/l of the Ascendant can reveal ones Destiny...Long/Short Life,Rich/Poor,Healthy/Sickly and so on...as was decided by Bramha soon after one's Birth... And so on...Krishnamurthi Padhdhati, has so many wonderful possibilities...! ! An indepth study of K.P., patiently and carefully,will surely help dizcover these possibilities... With the very best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. GOOD LUCK ! --- On Fri, 16/4/10, Senthil <athi_ram wrote: Senthil <athi_ramRe: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching Received: Friday, 16 April, 2010, 12:58 AM Dear Adith, // If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope. There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control?// As per my view if the person has to meet with an accident in a particular moment but no death is indicated that is including DBA as well as transit don't signify/agree for death(badaka/ maraka etc) then some how he/she will escape by wearing helmet or without Helmet. I have explained few months back in this forum. During my advanced astrology study time (may be year 2000) one accident case chat was discussed in the class who didn’t die but went to coma stage. Similarly, suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. Due to some reason they may ignore or misguided by some other astrologer/somebody etc and finally they may not be going for the marriage with girl you have suggested as THE BEST MATCH.(Hope this may be happening for most Astrologers too.) So as an astrologer what are you controlling here? I believe that you are doing you own karma only (say astrologer work/duty) Hope you can understand it now and the above are my personal views only. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil --- On Wed, 4/14/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching@gro ups.comWednesday, April 14, 2010, 7:25 PM Dear Suna ji,Thanks for your valuable explanation.So kind of you.You mean to say that one will be free to do according to the present sources available or the effort he himself takes to do it. I agree with this to a great extent. But if he is not destined astrologically, he may not succeed in his effort.For instance, a boy if he tries hard to get score , he can not if his chart and periods do not support. But as you said, I agree as follows:For instance, if one takes up his decision to do or no to a work according to his own thought or by some one's advice, his current deeds are controlled .He may escape from doing a wrong deed as per the past Karma.When no vehicles were invented, if a man those days has the significations of 4,11 he will get a cart or similar to that. After the inventions of the Vehicles, one will get the bike or car etc.,. It means one could be influenced with the present available sources. Similarly, one will do his deeds according to his present situation and his mind set and effort. If he is a person with any past bitter experience in any event, business, when his similar bad time comes again, he will take his decision vary cautiously sothat the impact will be reduced , though not avoided fully. So he has the control.Similarly in the present life, one has good contacts with gurus, good astrologers, well wishers , even a person with bad characters is guided properly and does some good deeds. In those days, in a joint family where there will be a Head (very old experienced person) who will lead the total family members. Everyone has to act according to his advice only. There the percentage of failures, wrong deeds were greatly reduced. Though one of the family member who has the tendency to do bad events will be under control. But once that Head passes away, the total family is collapsed and splitted. Then as there is no guidance, they act act as per the destiny without any control and face the troubles accordingly.If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope.There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control?The above are my personal points only.Your valuable inputs are welcome, as you are all much experienced person.Thanks and REgardsAdith On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote: Dear Adith ji,I also wish to add some ideas for your doubt on Kamma. If a person had done any good deeds or bad deeds in his previous birth, and if he has not finished his Karma for rebirth, he may receive passport to the next birth. Sometimes he might have low marks in his last examination in his previous birth, but enough level for a pass, he may come back to the universe to complete his lost subject and for high marks to finish his journey of life. So everyone must understand this fact of completing his weak subjects and get the highest mark rate for a pass. This is a very simple interpretation of Kamma. If a man climbs to the third floor of a building, it is undeniable true that his arriving to third floor is a result of his past action (Kamma) that is, WALKING up the stairs. And having arrived there, it is impossible for him to reach out and touch the ground with his hand, or drive a car up and down there. Obviously this is because he has gone up to the third floor. Or, having arrived at the third floor, whether he is too exhausted to continue is also related to having walked up the stairs. His arrival there, the things he is able to do there and the situation he is likely to encounter, are all certainly related to the OLD KAMMA of having walked up the stairs. But exactly which action he will perform, his reactions to the situations which arise there, whether he will take a rest, walk on, or walk back down the stairs and out of that building, are all matters which he can decide for himself in that PRESENT moment, for which he will also reap the results. Even though the action of walking up the stairs may still be influencing him (for example, with his strength sapped he may be unable to function efficiently in any given situation), whether he decides to give in to that tiredness or try to overcome it, are all matters which he can decide for himself in the present moment. Therefore OLD KAMMA should be understood in its relation to the whole cause and effect process. In terms of ethical practice, to understand the cause and effect process is to be able to learn from Old Kamma, understanding the situation at hand, and to skillfully make a plan of action for improving and correcting the future. Kalyan TW <tw853 > @gro ups.comWed, 14 April, 2010 9:06:02 AM Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching Dear Adith ji,1. Everything in one's life may be said as predestined at the moment of birth by past karma for the possibility of cent percent accuracy in the astrological prediction which is not the case in practice. Because please note "it may be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects of his Karma."2. "If the present life is totally conditioned or wholly controlled by our past actions, then certainly Karma is tantamount to fatalism or determinism or predestination. If this were true, free will would be an absurdity. Life would be purely mechanistic, not much different from a machine. Such a fatalistic doctrine is not the Buddhist law of Karma…Karma does not necessarily mean past actions. It embraces both past and present deeds. Hence in one sense, we are the result of what we were; we will be the result of what we are… The inequality that exists among mankind is the result of our own past actions and our own present doings (esp viriya 'effort' and panna 'wisdom'). We ourselves are responsible for our own."-Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw (The Theory of Karma)3. In the Upajjhatthana Sutta (AN 5.57), the Lord Buddha states:"I am the owner of my karma. I inherit my karma. I am born of my karma. I am related to my karma. I live supported by my karma. Whatever karma I create, whether good or evil, that I shall inherit."Regards,TW @gro ups.com, "adith kasinath.g.k" <gkadithkasinath@ ...> wrote:>> Dear TW ji,> > Thanks for the valuable points by our Guruji.> > But I ever have teh following question in mind unanswered.> > When all is destined in one life, he can not be responsible for his deeds in> the present life.> For example, if one happens to be a bad person in all activities due to his> past bad deeds, he may not be in a position to do any good deeds in his> present life. In this case, in his next births also we can expect him to be> a bad human only. So how can one is expected to do any good deeds in his> birth?> > can you enlighten me on this?> > Regards> Adith> > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM, TW <tw853 wrote:> > >> >> > *Guruji KSK's Quotations on Karma, Destiny*> >> > Chances, luck or misfortune are governed by the law of Causation or Karma.> > God is neither partial or unjust, and everything happens according to one's> > action in the past birth.> >> > When we think we understand that the theory "Karma and Incarnation" alone> > can convince.--- what we have to enjoy is undoubtedly predestined. I cannot> > understand how the judgment of God can be, in any manner, modified or> > nullified by our efforts.---> >> > Everything is predestined. ---None can dodge fate.--- If one can change the> > event by one's will, then astrology has no place.> >> > Karma can be divided broadly into three kinds: Dhruda (fixed) Karma that> > one has committed an inexcusable mistake or crime in the previous birth,> > Dhruda - Adhruda (fixed/non-fixed) Karma that one would have committed an> > excusable mistake in the previous birth, and Adhruda (non-fixed) Karma that> > the crime committed may be negligible…The majority of people commit> > excusable mistakes called Dhruda – Adhruda Karma. Therefore Shanti will be> > done by them with or without their knowledge and they will not ultimately> > suffer… Just like one has no choice about his birth time, place and his> > parents, so also there is nothing left in one's hands. Everything is> > pre-destined. None can change it. Then only one can use this> > science…Astrology is a science. It needs further research and confirmation.> > There is no use for the word "Likely". Everything is a certainty… It may> > be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of> > his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way> > directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects> > of his Karma.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Prasanna,> > >                      As per K.P.,and nobody/nothing> > can change human destiny/fate, once written by Brahma soon after one's> > birth...your quote of Nacchiketa is of a very rare and extra-ordinary> > case...> > >                      Guruji KSK had predicted the> > death of a retired senior retired Govt. Official who requested him> > to predit even the Tome of his death...which the worthy disbelieved> > totally,and in order to prov KSK wrong,made arrangements to sith in his lawn> > under a Garden Umbrella with a Thermos Flask full of coffee to wait out well> > past the predited thr Time of Death...but alas,from the corner of his eyes> > he was watching his dear grandson play on the verendah...and to his great> > horror he saw him walking baxckwards towards the garden and to a fall on the> > ground below and that too backwards... in a desperate attempt at preventing> > him from walking towards his certain fall,he made a dash for him,his foot> > got stuck in the crossbar of the easychair in which he was seated and he> > fell down,hitting his head on the ston steps with a resounding thud,and he> > died instantly,and to the surprise of all, the time was exactly what KSK had> > > predicted days in advance...!> > >                         The above has ben> > narrated in his original Books...and prove that Astroloby is a Vedanga and> > is born out of the Karma Theory...what is destined WILL take place...come> > what may... !> > >                         This also proves the> > accuracy of K.P. and Krishnamurthi Ayanamsa...> > >                         Another "live" proof can> > be had by anyone,if he so desires :> > >                         First have a Birth Chart> > correctly cast by a K.P. Astrologer after the necessary corrections( if> > needed),are made...> > >                         Then,pl. note the exact> > time at which one gets a cut or has a fall with blood oozing out of the> > wound...> > >                         To your great chagrin,> > the sublords of the IVth,VIIIth & XIIth cusps,will be the Dasa/Bhukti/ Anthra> > lords of the persons Dasa running at the time... !> > >                         Pl. check and> > inform,this is a "love" proof...what more is required ?> > >                         With best wishes,> > >                         Yogesh Lajmi.> > >                      Â> > >                Â> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@> >> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com > > > Cc: ssagar86@> >> > > Received: Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 6:48 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Respected sagarji,> > > your views seem to be fatalistic. Human life is just a tiny part of this> > vast BRAMHANDA.So many factors effect human life that it is not possible to> > predict what will happen in future. Astrologers can only in some way study> > the trend or tendencies.With the gene therapy even diffective genes can be> > replaced, which instigates people to go for wrong action causing wrong> > result. It is said person doing PAPA will get his due result in this KALI> > ERA itself. Instances may be found where even Prarabdha was changed. Story> > of NACHIKETA is known to all. Story of SAVITRI is also known to all. It> > depends on the person who has been sufferring. In fact in KALI ERA people> > do not have patience or faith that mountains can be moved.Hence no serious> > effort is done to change the destiny. Hence with all due respect to you> > please give your opinion in this regard.> > > Â> > > Prasanna> > > Â> >> > >> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 8:17 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > >> > > ASTROLOGER TELLS WHAT MAY HAPPEN, BUT GOD ONLY CAN TELL WHAT EXACTLY WILL> > HAPPEN.> > >> > > Naidu KP> > >> > > K. P. Naidu,> > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > > Nowroji Road,> > > Maharanipeta,> > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 12:03 AM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > > Dear Adith> > > MY first conference attend in Feb 1989 at Cuttack.> > > i have presented three papers and speak on one important subject called "> > Everything is predestined and no one can change or alter it , even the> > Creator lord Brahma"> > > We astrologers can predict the events what will happen, neither we can> > change or alter it.> > > I have quoted " yatha raja , tatha praja" likewise "yatha graha tatha> > phala".> > > Almost all astrologer appreciated my speech, later Mr.Subramaniam asked> > me " ur speech truly marvelous, but can u answer for one doubt" can u run in> > a front of running vehicle by assuming that everything predestined"> > > my answer was " if my fate is predestined to met with accident i will run> > in front of a running bus, if my fate is not predestined for accident even> > though i run in front of a running bus , driver will try to rescue me and he> > will turn his vehicle which will kill some which has predestined is one> > thing on the other hand my mind will not permit me to run in front of> > running bus".> > > All astrologers are only a reader what will happen in the future.> > > in fact i wont match guna kuta , i will match the girl and boy chart> > weather their marriage has predestined or not.> > > I use to predict few points of the girl/boy as per their charts.It> > happened too.> > > Regards> > > Sahhasra Saagara> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Senthil athi_ram >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:58:28 PM> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Adith,> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with> > their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an> > astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is> > no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. So what is> > the use for matching the charts? Actually you have to find firstly whether> > as per his destiny his Girl’s chart is available among the 10 charts are> > not? If yes, that is it else ask them to bring any other set of charts to> > find his Girl (written as per his destiny) that is all. I have written an> > article based on my past failure case (job offers) regarding “which> > company he will join?†in KP annual number 2010 you may refer it.> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Also during my study on Driving license one of the person who failed in> > the 1st road test asked me the following (refer Quiz-8). He was ready to> > attend ONLY ON TEST (no more test & the person was having urge etc.) which> > he should get PASS. Now you have to tell which date/time he should attend> > the test so that he will get pass on that day/time. You have to guarantee> > that he will get appointment on that date/time (there is a chance he can> > purposely get appointment for some other date/time or the date may be> > already booked by many candidate and full etc), the test should be conducted> > on that date/time (it should not be declared holiday or cancelled due to any> > reason etc) and also he should attend the test on that date/time without> > fail (not absent due to any reasons or there is a chance he can purposely> > not to attend test on that date/time etc) and he should get PASS.> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Are you ready to give all the above correct? Any one failure is> > sufficient to say that our prediction is WRONG.> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > > So what is our (astrologer’s) role? I personally believe that we are> > the tools through us some message is passed on the native/quarent that is> > it.> > >> > > Â> > > The above are my personal views and not to criticize you or anybody.> > > Â> > > GOOD LUCK!!> > > Â> > > D.Senthil> > > Â> > >> > >> > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:49 AM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Dear Sagar ji,> > >> > > I accept your points. . But if it is destined, whats the role of> > Astrologer in matching? Why should we match?> > >> > > Does any astrologer play role in fixing the match ? or helping to find> > the best match?> > >> > > I hope there must some logic behind in our old says..> > >> > > As per the Astrologers guidelines if anyone follows, the incidents can> > not be stopped but the impact can be reduced. Similarly, in a chart if he> > has a poor significations for a happy marital life, if he is marched to a> > better one, there wont be permanent separation but misunderstanding or> > temporary separation during the unfavorable period.> > > Pls give your views on the above.> > >> > > With Regards> > > Adith> > >> > >> > >> > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi> > > neither guna nor kuta will helpful in matching of boy-girl horoscope as> > it is predestined and he/she should get marry what has already destined in> > their charts.> > > i remember one girl chart in which i had predicted short marital life> > as well as i had predicted diseases of her husband by anlysing her chart.> > Later girl married and lead marital life for few years and her faced health> > problem resulted in his death.> >> > > both in hindu predictive as well as in kp for marital life some> > combination and significance has given.> > > Regards> > > Sahhasra Saagara> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >> > >> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > > Cc: Wyomesh wyomeshd >> > > Thu, 8 April, 2010 8:14:18 PM> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Wyomesh,> > >                       Yoni Guna has been taken> > care of in KPDP, for your information, under compatibility. ..!> > >                        With best wishes,> > >                       Yogesh Lajmi.> >> > >> > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, Wyomesh wyomeshd > wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > > Wyomesh wyomeshd >> > > Subject: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > >> > >> > > Received: Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 1:59 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > > Hello> > >> > > I would like to add here something... .> > > It is very important to see YONI GUNA. Suppose male YONI is GAU (cow)> > > and Female's Yoni is VYAGHRA ( LION)... Both are hard enemies. So, Even> > on matching perfect can not give satisfactory married life.> > >> > > So we should always look for traditional rules with KP.> > >> > > Thank you> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "kadavasalramani" <kadavasalramani@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sri Adithj,> > > >> > > > KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of> > late Guruji, Sri KSK.> > > > It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified> > according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for matching> > the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. In> > this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple will> > lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this there is> > no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, Saturn> > Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes> > according to KP system.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > -> > > > adith kasinath.g.k> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM> > > > KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear friends,> > > >> > > > Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed in> > the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.?> > > >> > > > Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom?> > > >> > > > I hope this is being given in some sw.> > > >> > > > I will be obliged to get these details> > > >> > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > Adith> > > >> > >> > >> > > Â> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php> > >> > >> > >> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php> > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Dear Friends, Its a old story of hen & egg,who came first ?Karma or Destiny ! There is some space for free will to change the own Karma follow by destiny.We came on earth with one seed which have all the characters but what growth will come out and which section of character will develop,its all depend on our free will.We can change or suppress the bad things and can develop the right things. By our previous Karma we have the all the program installed in our seed but which program we use or open it depend on our free will.Circumstances are purely comes in our life by our old karma but what change will happens by any circumstances it depend on our reaction to that action.Our reaction is our free will but action is our old karma. In my view a strong will can change everything,just imagine strongly for any coming event with strong positive thoughts even you presently not sure of any positive, and experience the facts of will.Its all depend on your strong will.So many times when every thing or every indications are just against but some where within ourself we feel a very positive feeling,we seen many times it comes true(as positive) as we are well assure about that. Just do some little practicals with your own practical life for small event,think positively(Strongly)about any negative indication of any coming event than see the result.How we can think positive strongly,it will come by the faith only or your any strong faith on any deity. Muslims get from Allah but Hindu not pray Allah,as well as a Hindu get from his deity but Muslims not pray that deity.A Sikh get all from his Gurunanak as like we all get from only out own faith and believe.Who have strong faith they never failed. What power play here ,our " will " which reflected by our deity and we get it as power. You will feel that you can change the destiny by your will power. Astrology guide us to read the seed,a probability in a native for any possibility.A astrologer is best Psychologist he can mind set of the native to do the certain things to get certain result because he can read the seed and their probability. Its all also my personal views as like you all have.So no any controversy on this matter. Thanks, M.S.Bohra , Senthil <athi_ram wrote: > > Dear Adith, > > // > If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope. There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. > > Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control? > // > >  > As per my view if the person has to meet with an accident in a particular moment but no death is indicated that is including DBA as well as transit don't signify/agree for death(badaka/maraka etc) then some how he/she will escape by wearing helmet or without Helmet. I have explained few months back in this forum. During my advanced astrology study time (may be year 2000) one accident case chat was discussed in the class who didn’t die but went to coma stage. >  > Similarly, suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. Due to some reason they may ignore or misguided by some other astrologer/somebody etc and finally they may not be going for the marriage with girl you have suggested as THE BEST MATCH.(Hope this may be happening for most Astrologers too.) >  > So as an astrologer what are you controlling here? I believe that you are doing you own karma only (say astrologer work/duty) >  > Hope you can understand it now and the above are my personal views only. > >  > GOOD LUCK!! >  > D.Senthil > >  > > --- On Wed, 4/14/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote: > > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 7:25 PM > > >  > > > > Dear Suna ji, > > Thanks for your valuable explanation. > So kind of you. > > You mean to say that one will be free to do according to the present sources available or the effort he himself takes to do it. I agree with this to a great extent. But if he is not destined astrologically, he may not succeed in his effort. > > For instance, a boy if he tries hard to get score , he can not if his chart and periods do not support. > > But as you said, I agree as follows: > > For instance, if one takes up his decision to do or no to a work according to his own thought or by some one's advice, his current deeds are controlled .He may escape from doing a wrong deed as per the past Karma. > > When no vehicles were invented, if a man those days has the significations of 4,11 he will get a cart or similar to that. After the inventions of the Vehicles, one will get the bike or car etc.,. It means one could be influenced with the present available sources. Similarly, one will do his deeds according to his present situation and his mind set and effort. If he is a person with any past bitter experience in any event, business, when his similar bad time comes again, he will take his decision vary cautiously sothat the impact will be reduced , though not avoided fully. So he has the control. > > Similarly in the present life, one has good contacts with gurus, good astrologers, well wishers , even a person with bad characters is guided properly and does some good deeds. > In those days, in a joint family where there will be a Head (very old experienced person) who will lead the total family members. Everyone has to act according to his advice only. There the percentage of failures, wrong deeds were greatly reduced. Though one of the family member who has the tendency to do bad events will be under control. But once that Head passes away, the total family is collapsed and splitted. Then as there is no guidance, they act act as per the destiny without any control and face the troubles accordingly. > > If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope. > There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. > > Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control? > > The above are my personal points only. > > Your valuable inputs are welcome, as you are all much experienced person. > > Thanks and REgards > Adith    > > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote: > > >  > > > > > Dear Adith ji, > > I also wish to add some ideas for your doubt on Kamma. > > > If a person had done any good deeds or bad deeds in his previous birth, and if he has not finished his Karma for rebirth, he may receive passport to the next birth. Sometimes he might have low marks in his last examination in his previous birth, but enough level for a pass, he may come back to the universe to complete his lost subject and for high marks to finish his journey of life. So everyone must understand this fact of completing his weak subjects and get the highest mark rate for a pass. >  > This is a very simple interpretation of Kamma. >  > If a man climbs to the third floor of a building, it is undeniable true that his arriving to third floor is a result of his past action (Kamma) that is, WALKING up the stairs. And having arrived there, it is impossible for him to reach out and touch the ground with his hand, or drive a car up and down there. Obviously this is because he has gone up to the third floor. Or, having arrived at the third floor, whether he is too exhausted to continue is also related to having walked up the stairs. His arrival there, the things he is able to do there and the situation he is likely to encounter, are all certainly related to the OLD KAMMA of having walked up the stairs. But exactly which action he will perform, his reactions to the situations which arise there, whether he will take a rest, walk on, or walk back down the stairs and out of that building, are all matters which he can decide for himself in that PRESENT moment, for which he will also reap the > results. Even though the action of walking up the stairs may still be influencing him (for example, with his strength sapped he may be unable to function efficiently in any given situation), whether he decides to give in to that tiredness or try to overcome it, are all matters which he can decide for himself in the present moment. > Therefore OLD KAMMA should be understood in its relation to the whole cause and effect process. In terms of ethical practice, to understand the cause and effect process is to be able to learn from Old Kamma, understanding the situation at hand, and to skillfully make a plan of action for improving and correcting the future. >  > Kalyan > >  > TW <tw853 > > > @gro ups.com > Wed, 14 April, 2010 9:06:02 AM > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >  > > > Dear Adith ji, > 1. Everything in one's life may be said as predestined at the moment of birth by past karma for the possibility of cent percent accuracy in the astrological prediction which is not the case in practice. Because please note " it may be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects of his Karma. " > 2. " If the present life is totally conditioned or wholly controlled by our past actions, then certainly Karma is tantamount to fatalism or determinism or predestination. If this were true, free will would be an absurdity. Life would be purely mechanistic, not much different from a machine. Such a fatalistic doctrine is not the Buddhist law of Karma…Karma does not necessarily mean past actions. It embraces both past and present deeds. Hence in one sense, we are the result of what we were; we will be the result of what we are… The inequality that exists among mankind is the result of our own past actions and our own present doings (esp viriya 'effort' and panna 'wisdom'). We ourselves are responsible for our own. " > -Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw (The Theory of Karma) > 3. In the Upajjhatthana Sutta (AN 5.57), the Lord Buddha states: > " I am the owner of my karma. I inherit my karma. I am born of my karma. I am related to my karma. I live supported by my karma. Whatever karma I create, whether good or evil, that I shall inherit. " > Regards, > TW > > > > > @gro ups.com, " adith kasinath.g.k " <gkadithkasinath@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear TW ji, > > > > Thanks for the valuable points by our Guruji. > > > > But I ever have teh following question in mind unanswered. > > > > When all is destined in one life, he can not be responsible for his deeds in > > the present life. > > For example, if one happens to be a bad person in all activities due to his > > past bad deeds, he may not be in a position to do any good deeds in his > > present life. In this case, in his next births also we can expect him to be > > a bad human only. So how can one is expected to do any good deeds in his > > birth? > > > > can you enlighten me on this? > > > > Regards > > Adith > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM, TW <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > *Guruji KSK's Quotations on Karma, Destiny* > > > > > > Chances, luck or misfortune are governed by the law of Causation or Karma. > > > God is neither partial or unjust, and everything happens according to one's > > > action in the past birth. > > > > > > When we think we understand that the theory " Karma and Incarnation " alone > > > can convince.--- what we have to enjoy is undoubtedly predestined. I cannot > > > understand how the judgment of God can be, in any manner, modified or > > > nullified by our efforts.--- > > > > > > Everything is predestined. ---None can dodge fate.--- If one can change the > > > event by one's will, then astrology has no place. > > > > > > Karma can be divided broadly into three kinds: Dhruda (fixed) Karma that > > > one has committed an inexcusable mistake or crime in the previous birth, > > > Dhruda - Adhruda (fixed/non-fixed) Karma that one would have committed an > > > excusable mistake in the previous birth, and Adhruda (non-fixed) Karma that > > > the crime committed may be negligible…The majority of people commit > > > excusable mistakes called Dhruda †" Adhruda Karma. Therefore Shanti will be > > > done by them with or without their knowledge and they will not ultimately > > > suffer… Just like one has no choice about his birth time, place and his > > > parents, so also there is nothing left in one's hands. Everything is > > > pre-destined. None can change it. Then only one can use this > > > science…Astrology is a science. It needs further research and confirmation. > > > There is no use for the word " Likely " . Everything is a certainty… It may > > > be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of > > > his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way > > > directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects > > > of his Karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prasanna, > > > >                      As per K.P.,and nobody/nothing > > > can change human destiny/fate, once written by Brahma soon after one's > > > birth...your quote of Nacchiketa is of a very rare and extra-ordinary > > > case... > > > >                      Guruji KSK had predicted the > > > death of a retired senior retired Govt. Official who requested him > > > to predit even the Tome of his death...which the worthy disbelieved > > > totally,and in order to prov KSK wrong,made arrangements to sith in his lawn > > > under a Garden Umbrella with a Thermos Flask full of coffee to wait out well > > > past the predited thr Time of Death...but alas,from the corner of his eyes > > > he was watching his dear grandson play on the verendah...and to his great > > > horror he saw him walking baxckwards towards the garden and to a fall on the > > > ground below and that too backwards... in a desperate attempt at preventing > > > him from walking towards his certain fall,he made a dash for him,his foot > > > got stuck in the crossbar of the easychair in which he was seated and he > > > fell down,hitting his head on the ston steps with a resounding thud,and he > > > died instantly,and to the surprise of all, the time was exactly what KSK had > > > > predicted days in advance...! > > > >                         The above has ben > > > narrated in his original Books...and prove that Astroloby is a Vedanga and > > > is born out of the Karma Theory...what is destined WILL take place...come > > > what may... ! > > > >                         This also proves the > > > accuracy of K.P. and Krishnamurthi Ayanamsa... > > > >                         Another " live " proof can > > > be had by anyone,if he so desires : > > > >                         First have a Birth Chart > > > correctly cast by a K.P. Astrologer after the necessary corrections( if > > > needed),are made... > > > >                         Then,pl. note the exact > > > time at which one gets a cut or has a fall with blood oozing out of the > > > wound... > > > >                         To your great chagrin, > > > the sublords of the IVth,VIIIth & XIIth cusps,will be the Dasa/Bhukti/ Anthra > > > lords of the persons Dasa running at the time... ! > > > >                         Pl. check and > > > inform,this is a " love " proof...what more is required ? > > > >                         With best wishes, > > > >                         Yogesh Lajmi. > > > >                       > > > >                 > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ > > > > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > Cc: ssagar86@ > > > > > > > Received: Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 6:48 PM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected sagarji, > > > > your views seem to be fatalistic. Human life is just a tiny part of this > > > vast BRAMHANDA.So many factors effect human life that it is not possible to > > > predict what will happen in future. Astrologers can only in some way study > > > the trend or tendencies.With the gene therapy even diffective genes can be > > > replaced, which instigates people to go for wrong action causing wrong > > > result. It is said person doing PAPA will get his due result in this KALI > > > ERA itself. Instances may be found where even Prarabdha was changed. Story > > > of NACHIKETA is known to all. Story of SAVITRI is also known to all. It > > > depends on the person who has been sufferring. In fact in KALI ERA people > > > do not have patience or faith that mountains can be moved.Hence no serious > > > effort is done to change the destiny. Hence with all due respect to you > > > please give your opinion in this regard. > > > >  > > > > Prasanna > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 8:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > ASTROLOGER TELLS WHAT MAY HAPPEN, BUT GOD ONLY CAN TELL WHAT EXACTLY WILL > > > HAPPEN. > > > > > > > > Naidu KP > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu, > > > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > > > Nowroji Road, > > > > Maharanipeta, > > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 12:03 AM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Adith > > > > MY first conference attend in Feb 1989 at Cuttack. > > > > i have presented three papers and speak on one important subject called " > > > Everything is predestined and no one can change or alter it , even the > > > Creator lord Brahma " > > > > We astrologers can predict the events what will happen, neither we can > > > change or alter it. > > > > I have quoted " yatha raja , tatha praja " likewise " yatha graha tatha > > > phala " . > > > > Almost all astrologer appreciated my speech, later Mr.Subramaniam asked > > > me " ur speech truly marvelous, but can u answer for one doubt " can u run in > > > a front of running vehicle by assuming that everything predestined " > > > > my answer was " if my fate is predestined to met with accident i will run > > > in front of a running bus, if my fate is not predestined for accident even > > > though i run in front of a running bus , driver will try to rescue me and he > > > will turn his vehicle which will kill some which has predestined is one > > > thing on the other hand my mind will not permit me to run in front of > > > running bus " . > > > > All astrologers are only a reader what will happen in the future. > > > > in fact i wont match guna kuta , i will match the girl and boy chart > > > weather their marriage has predestined or not. > > > > I use to predict few points of the girl/boy as per their charts.It > > > happened too. > > > > Regards > > > > Sahhasra Saagara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Senthil athi_ram > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:58:28 PM > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Adith, > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with > > > their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an > > > astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is > > > no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. So what is > > > the use for matching the charts? Actually you have to find firstly whether > > > as per his destiny his Girl’s chart is available among the 10 charts are > > > not? If yes, that is it else ask them to bring any other set of charts to > > > find his Girl (written as per his destiny) that is all. I have written an > > > article based on my past failure case (job offers) regarding  " which > > > company he will join?†in KP annual number 2010 you may refer it. > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Also during my study on Driving license one of the person who failed in > > > the 1st road test asked me the following (refer Quiz-8). He was ready to > > > attend ONLY ON TEST (no more test & the person was having urge etc.) which > > > he should get PASS. Now you have to tell which date/time he should attend > > > the test so that he will get pass on that day/time. You have to guarantee > > > that he will get appointment on that date/time (there is a chance he can > > > purposely get appointment for some other date/time or the date may be > > > already booked by many candidate and full etc), the test should be conducted > > > on that date/time (it should not be declared holiday or cancelled due to any > > > reason etc) and also he should attend the test on that date/time without > > > fail (not absent due to any reasons or there is a chance he can purposely > > > not to attend test on that date/time etc) and he should get PASS. > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Are you ready to give all the above correct? Any one failure is > > > sufficient to say that our prediction is WRONG. > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > So what is our (astrologer’s) role? I personally believe that we are > > > the tools through us some message is passed on the native/quarent that is > > > it. > > > > > > > >  > > > > The above are my personal views and not to criticize you or anybody. > > > >  > > > > GOOD LUCK!! > > > >  > > > > D.Senthil > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:49 AM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Sagar ji, > > > > > > > > I accept your points. . But if it is destined, whats the role of > > > Astrologer in matching? Why should we match? > > > > > > > > Does any astrologer play role in fixing the match ? or helping to find > > > the best match? > > > > > > > > I hope there must some logic behind in our old says.. > > > > > > > > As per the Astrologers guidelines if anyone follows, the incidents can > > > not be stopped but the impact can be reduced. Similarly, in a chart if he > > > has a poor significations for a happy marital life, if he is marched to a > > > better one, there wont be permanent separation but misunderstanding or > > > temporary separation during the unfavorable period. > > > > Pls give your views on the above. > > > > > > > > With Regards > > > > Adith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > neither guna nor kuta will helpful in matching of boy-girl horoscope as > > > it is predestined and he/she should get marry what has already destined in > > > their charts. > > > > i remember one girl chart in which i had predicted short marital life > > > as well as i had predicted diseases of her husband by anlysing her chart. > > > Later girl married and lead marital life for few years and her faced health > > > problem resulted in his death. > > > > > > > both in hindu predictive as well as in kp for marital life some > > > combination and significance has given. > > > > Regards > > > > Sahhasra Saagara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > Cc: Wyomesh wyomeshd > > > > > Thu, 8 April, 2010 8:14:18 PM > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Wyomesh, > > > >                       Yoni Guna has been taken > > > care of in KPDP, for your information, under compatibility. ..! > > > >                        With best wishes, > > > >                       Yogesh Lajmi. > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, Wyomesh wyomeshd > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wyomesh wyomeshd > > > > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Received: Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 1:59 PM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > > > I would like to add here something... . > > > > It is very important to see YONI GUNA. Suppose male YONI is GAU (cow) > > > > and Female's Yoni is VYAGHRA ( LION)... Both are hard enemies. So, Even > > > on matching perfect can not give satisfactory married life. > > > > > > > > So we should always look for traditional rules with KP. > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kadavasalramani " <kadavasalramani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Adithj, > > > > > > > > > > KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of > > > late Guruji, Sri KSK. > > > > > It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified > > > according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for matching > > > the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. In > > > this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple will > > > lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this there is > > > no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, Saturn > > > Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes > > > according to KP system. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > > - > > > > > adith kasinath.g.k > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM > > > > > KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed in > > > the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.? > > > > > > > > > > Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom? > > > > > > > > > > I hope this is being given in some sw. > > > > > > > > > > I will be obliged to get these details > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > Adith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010  Der Sri Yogeshji, 5 combinations have been given for never occuring even a scratch, when VMD of 4,8,12 runs. Is it because they are friendlly planets with each other or are there any other logic. What would be if in the natal chart, either of these are placed in strong position signifying accidents or indicating Maraka or Bhadhaka? Truly yours, K.S.V.Ramani - Yogesh Lajmi Cc: Senthil ; Adith Kasinath.g.k Friday, April 16, 2010 8:53 PM Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching Dear Senthil, If one was destined to suffer a bad injury in an accident,he would have forgotten to wear a helmet,or he would have suffered severe injuries,despite his wearing a helmet... that is how destiny operates...(Karma in action...). One can explain why one is lucky not to have a single accident in his entire life,only by K.P. Principles... If the Vimshottari Dasa period running is ruled by the s/lords of the cusps of IV,VIII & XII,one will surely meet with an accident... Whereas,if the setup of the sublords of the houses IV,VIII & XII are set up as follows : Venus-Saturn-Venus Venus-Merc-Venus Moon-Sun-Moon Moon-Mars-Moon Sat-Merc-Saturn such a Jatak will never suffer even a small scratch in his entire lifetime...! Also, a careful in-depth examination of the s/l of the Ascendant can reveal ones Destiny...Long/Short Life,Rich/Poor,Healthy/Sickly and so on...as was decided by Bramha soon after one's Birth... And so on...Krishnamurthi Padhdhati, has so many wonderful possibilities...! ! An indepth study of K.P., patiently and carefully,will surely help dizcover these possibilities... With the very best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. GOOD LUCK ! --- On Fri, 16/4/10, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Senthil <athi_ram >Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching Received: Friday, 16 April, 2010, 12:58 AM Dear Adith, // If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope. There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control?// As per my view if the person has to meet with an accident in a particular moment but no death is indicated that is including DBA as well as transit don't signify/agree for death(badaka/ maraka etc) then some how he/she will escape by wearing helmet or without Helmet. I have explained few months back in this forum. During my advanced astrology study time (may be year 2000) one accident case chat was discussed in the class who didn’t die but went to coma stage. Similarly, suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. Due to some reason they may ignore or misguided by some other astrologer/somebody etc and finally they may not be going for the marriage with girl you have suggested as THE BEST MATCH.(Hope this may be happening for most Astrologers too.) So as an astrologer what are you controlling here? I believe that you are doing you own karma only (say astrologer work/duty) Hope you can understand it now and the above are my personal views only. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil --- On Wed, 4/14/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching@gro ups.comWednesday, April 14, 2010, 7:25 PM Dear Suna ji,Thanks for your valuable explanation.So kind of you.You mean to say that one will be free to do according to the present sources available or the effort he himself takes to do it. I agree with this to a great extent. But if he is not destined astrologically, he may not succeed in his effort.For instance, a boy if he tries hard to get score , he can not if his chart and periods do not support. But as you said, I agree as follows:For instance, if one takes up his decision to do or no to a work according to his own thought or by some one's advice, his current deeds are controlled .He may escape from doing a wrong deed as per the past Karma.When no vehicles were invented, if a man those days has the significations of 4,11 he will get a cart or similar to that. After the inventions of the Vehicles, one will get the bike or car etc.,. It means one could be influenced with the present available sources. Similarly, one will do his deeds according to his present situation and his mind set and effort. If he is a person with any past bitter experience in any event, business, when his similar bad time comes again, he will take his decision vary cautiously sothat the impact will be reduced , though not avoided fully. So he has the control.Similarly in the present life, one has good contacts with gurus, good astrologers, well wishers , even a person with bad characters is guided properly and does some good deeds. In those days, in a joint family where there will be a Head (very old experienced person) who will lead the total family members. Everyone has to act according to his advice only. There the percentage of failures, wrong deeds were greatly reduced. Though one of the family member who has the tendency to do bad events will be under control. But once that Head passes away, the total family is collapsed and splitted. Then as there is no guidance, they act act as per the destiny without any control and face the troubles accordingly.If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope.There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control?The above are my personal points only.Your valuable inputs are welcome, as you are all much experienced person.Thanks and REgardsAdith On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote: Dear Adith ji,I also wish to add some ideas for your doubt on Kamma. If a person had done any good deeds or bad deeds in his previous birth, and if he has not finished his Karma for rebirth, he may receive passport to the next birth. Sometimes he might have low marks in his last examination in his previous birth, but enough level for a pass, he may come back to the universe to complete his lost subject and for high marks to finish his journey of life. So everyone must understand this fact of completing his weak subjects and get the highest mark rate for a pass. This is a very simple interpretation of Kamma. If a man climbs to the third floor of a building, it is undeniable true that his arriving to third floor is a result of his past action (Kamma) that is, WALKING up the stairs. And having arrived there, it is impossible for him to reach out and touch the ground with his hand, or drive a car up and down there. Obviously this is because he has gone up to the third floor. Or, having arrived at the third floor, whether he is too exhausted to continue is also related to having walked up the stairs. His arrival there, the things he is able to do there and the situation he is likely to encounter, are all certainly related to the OLD KAMMA of having walked up the stairs. But exactly which action he will perform, his reactions to the situations which arise there, whether he will take a rest, walk on, or walk back down the stairs and out of that building, are all matters which he can decide for himself in that PRESENT moment, for which he will also reap the results. Even though the action of walking up the stairs may still be influencing him (for example, with his strength sapped he may be unable to function efficiently in any given situation), whether he decides to give in to that tiredness or try to overcome it, are all matters which he can decide for himself in the present moment. Therefore OLD KAMMA should be understood in its relation to the whole cause and effect process. In terms of ethical practice, to understand the cause and effect process is to be able to learn from Old Kamma, understanding the situation at hand, and to skillfully make a plan of action for improving and correcting the future. Kalyan TW <tw853 > @gro ups.comWed, 14 April, 2010 9:06:02 AM Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching Dear Adith ji,1. Everything in one's life may be said as predestined at the moment of birth by past karma for the possibility of cent percent accuracy in the astrological prediction which is not the case in practice. Because please note "it may be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects of his Karma."2. "If the present life is totally conditioned or wholly controlled by our past actions, then certainly Karma is tantamount to fatalism or determinism or predestination. If this were true, free will would be an absurdity. Life would be purely mechanistic, not much different from a machine. Such a fatalistic doctrine is not the Buddhist law of Karma…Karma does not necessarily mean past actions. It embraces both past and present deeds. Hence in one sense, we are the result of what we were; we will be the result of what we are… The inequality that exists among mankind is the result of our own past actions and our own present doings (esp viriya 'effort' and panna 'wisdom'). We ourselves are responsible for our own."-Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw (The Theory of Karma)3. In the Upajjhatthana Sutta (AN 5.57), the Lord Buddha states:"I am the owner of my karma. I inherit my karma. I am born of my karma. I am related to my karma. I live supported by my karma. Whatever karma I create, whether good or evil, that I shall inherit."Regards,TW @gro ups.com, "adith kasinath.g.k" <gkadithkasinath@ ...> wrote:>> Dear TW ji,> > Thanks for the valuable points by our Guruji.> > But I ever have teh following question in mind unanswered.> > When all is destined in one life, he can not be responsible for his deeds in> the present life.> For example, if one happens to be a bad person in all activities due to his> past bad deeds, he may not be in a position to do any good deeds in his> present life. In this case, in his next births also we can expect him to be> a bad human only. So how can one is expected to do any good deeds in his> birth?> > can you enlighten me on this?> > Regards> Adith> > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM, TW <tw853 wrote:> > >> >> > *Guruji KSK's Quotations on Karma, Destiny*> >> > Chances, luck or misfortune are governed by the law of Causation or Karma.> > God is neither partial or unjust, and everything happens according to one's> > action in the past birth.> >> > When we think we understand that the theory "Karma and Incarnation" alone> > can convince.--- what we have to enjoy is undoubtedly predestined. I cannot> > understand how the judgment of God can be, in any manner, modified or> > nullified by our efforts.---> >> > Everything is predestined. ---None can dodge fate.--- If one can change the> > event by one's will, then astrology has no place.> >> > Karma can be divided broadly into three kinds: Dhruda (fixed) Karma that> > one has committed an inexcusable mistake or crime in the previous birth,> > Dhruda - Adhruda (fixed/non-fixed) Karma that one would have committed an> > excusable mistake in the previous birth, and Adhruda (non-fixed) Karma that> > the crime committed may be negligible…The majority of people commit> > excusable mistakes called Dhruda – Adhruda Karma. Therefore Shanti will be> > done by them with or without their knowledge and they will not ultimately> > suffer… Just like one has no choice about his birth time, place and his> > parents, so also there is nothing left in one's hands. Everything is> > pre-destined. None can change it. Then only one can use this> > science…Astrology is a science. It needs further research and confirmation.> > There is no use for the word "Likely". Everything is a certainty… It may> > be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of> > his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way> > directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects> > of his Karma.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Prasanna,> > >                      As per K.P.,and nobody/nothing> > can change human destiny/fate, once written by Brahma soon after one's> > birth...your quote of Nacchiketa is of a very rare and extra-ordinary> > case...> > >                      Guruji KSK had predicted the> > death of a retired senior retired Govt. Official who requested him> > to predit even the Tome of his death...which the worthy disbelieved> > totally,and in order to prov KSK wrong,made arrangements to sith in his lawn> > under a Garden Umbrella with a Thermos Flask full of coffee to wait out well> > past the predited thr Time of Death...but alas,from the corner of his eyes> > he was watching his dear grandson play on the verendah...and to his great> > horror he saw him walking baxckwards towards the garden and to a fall on the> > ground below and that too backwards... in a desperate attempt at preventing> > him from walking towards his certain fall,he made a dash for him,his foot> > got stuck in the crossbar of the easychair in which he was seated and he> > fell down,hitting his head on the ston steps with a resounding thud,and he> > died instantly,and to the surprise of all, the time was exactly what KSK had> > > predicted days in advance...!> > >                         The above has ben> > narrated in his original Books...and prove that Astroloby is a Vedanga and> > is born out of the Karma Theory...what is destined WILL take place...come> > what may... !> > >                         This also proves the> > accuracy of K.P. and Krishnamurthi Ayanamsa...> > >                         Another "live" proof can> > be had by anyone,if he so desires :> > >                         First have a Birth Chart> > correctly cast by a K.P. Astrologer after the necessary corrections( if> > needed),are made...> > >                         Then,pl. note the exact> > time at which one gets a cut or has a fall with blood oozing out of the> > wound...> > >                         To your great chagrin,> > the sublords of the IVth,VIIIth & XIIth cusps,will be the Dasa/Bhukti/ Anthra> > lords of the persons Dasa running at the time... !> > >                         Pl. check and> > inform,this is a "love" proof...what more is required ?> > >                         With best wishes,> > >                         Yogesh Lajmi.> > >                      Â> > >                Â> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@> >> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com > > > Cc: ssagar86@> >> > > Received: Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 6:48 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Respected sagarji,> > > your views seem to be fatalistic. Human life is just a tiny part of this> > vast BRAMHANDA.So many factors effect human life that it is not possible to> > predict what will happen in future. Astrologers can only in some way study> > the trend or tendencies.With the gene therapy even diffective genes can be> > replaced, which instigates people to go for wrong action causing wrong> > result. It is said person doing PAPA will get his due result in this KALI> > ERA itself. Instances may be found where even Prarabdha was changed. Story> > of NACHIKETA is known to all. Story of SAVITRI is also known to all. It> > depends on the person who has been sufferring. In fact in KALI ERA people> > do not have patience or faith that mountains can be moved.Hence no serious> > effort is done to change the destiny. Hence with all due respect to you> > please give your opinion in this regard.> > > Â> > > Prasanna> > > Â> >> > >> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 8:17 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > >> > > ASTROLOGER TELLS WHAT MAY HAPPEN, BUT GOD ONLY CAN TELL WHAT EXACTLY WILL> > HAPPEN.> > >> > > Naidu KP> > >> > > K. P. Naidu,> > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > > Nowroji Road,> > > Maharanipeta,> > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 12:03 AM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > > Dear Adith> > > MY first conference attend in Feb 1989 at Cuttack.> > > i have presented three papers and speak on one important subject called "> > Everything is predestined and no one can change or alter it , even the> > Creator lord Brahma"> > > We astrologers can predict the events what will happen, neither we can> > change or alter it.> > > I have quoted " yatha raja , tatha praja" likewise "yatha graha tatha> > phala".> > > Almost all astrologer appreciated my speech, later Mr.Subramaniam asked> > me " ur speech truly marvelous, but can u answer for one doubt" can u run in> > a front of running vehicle by assuming that everything predestined"> > > my answer was " if my fate is predestined to met with accident i will run> > in front of a running bus, if my fate is not predestined for accident even> > though i run in front of a running bus , driver will try to rescue me and he> > will turn his vehicle which will kill some which has predestined is one> > thing on the other hand my mind will not permit me to run in front of> > running bus".> > > All astrologers are only a reader what will happen in the future.> > > in fact i wont match guna kuta , i will match the girl and boy chart> > weather their marriage has predestined or not.> > > I use to predict few points of the girl/boy as per their charts.It> > happened too.> > > Regards> > > Sahhasra Saagara> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Senthil athi_ram >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:58:28 PM> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Adith,> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with> > their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an> > astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is> > no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. So what is> > the use for matching the charts? Actually you have to find firstly whether> > as per his destiny his Girl’s chart is available among the 10 charts are> > not? If yes, that is it else ask them to bring any other set of charts to> > find his Girl (written as per his destiny) that is all. I have written an> > article based on my past failure case (job offers) regarding “which> > company he will join?†in KP annual number 2010 you may refer it.> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Also during my study on Driving license one of the person who failed in> > the 1st road test asked me the following (refer Quiz-8). He was ready to> > attend ONLY ON TEST (no more test & the person was having urge etc.) which> > he should get PASS. Now you have to tell which date/time he should attend> > the test so that he will get pass on that day/time. You have to guarantee> > that he will get appointment on that date/time (there is a chance he can> > purposely get appointment for some other date/time or the date may be> > already booked by many candidate and full etc), the test should be conducted> > on that date/time (it should not be declared holiday or cancelled due to any> > reason etc) and also he should attend the test on that date/time without> > fail (not absent due to any reasons or there is a chance he can purposely> > not to attend test on that date/time etc) and he should get PASS.> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Are you ready to give all the above correct? Any one failure is> > sufficient to say that our prediction is WRONG.> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > > So what is our (astrologer’s) role? I personally believe that we are> > the tools through us some message is passed on the native/quarent that is> > it.> > >> > > Â> > > The above are my personal views and not to criticize you or anybody.> > > Â> > > GOOD LUCK!!> > > Â> > > D.Senthil> > > Â> > >> > >> > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:49 AM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Dear Sagar ji,> > >> > > I accept your points. . But if it is destined, whats the role of> > Astrologer in matching? Why should we match?> > >> > > Does any astrologer play role in fixing the match ? or helping to find> > the best match?> > >> > > I hope there must some logic behind in our old says..> > >> > > As per the Astrologers guidelines if anyone follows, the incidents can> > not be stopped but the impact can be reduced. Similarly, in a chart if he> > has a poor significations for a happy marital life, if he is marched to a> > better one, there wont be permanent separation but misunderstanding or> > temporary separation during the unfavorable period.> > > Pls give your views on the above.> > >> > > With Regards> > > Adith> > >> > >> > >> > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi> > > neither guna nor kuta will helpful in matching of boy-girl horoscope as> > it is predestined and he/she should get marry what has already destined in> > their charts.> > > i remember one girl chart in which i had predicted short marital life> > as well as i had predicted diseases of her husband by anlysing her chart.> > Later girl married and lead marital life for few years and her faced health> > problem resulted in his death.> >> > > both in hindu predictive as well as in kp for marital life some> > combination and significance has given.> > > Regards> > > Sahhasra Saagara> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >> > >> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > > Cc: Wyomesh wyomeshd >> > > Thu, 8 April, 2010 8:14:18 PM> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Wyomesh,> > >                       Yoni Guna has been taken> > care of in KPDP, for your information, under compatibility. ..!> > >                        With best wishes,> > >                       Yogesh Lajmi.> >> > >> > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, Wyomesh wyomeshd > wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > > Wyomesh wyomeshd >> > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > >> > >> > > Received: Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 1:59 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > > Hello> > >> > > I would like to add here something... .> > > It is very important to see YONI GUNA. Suppose male YONI is GAU (cow)> > > and Female's Yoni is VYAGHRA ( LION)... Both are hard enemies. So, Even> > on matching perfect can not give satisfactory married life.> > >> > > So we should always look for traditional rules with KP.> > >> > > Thank you> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "kadavasalramani" <kadavasalramani@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sri Adithj,> > > >> > > > KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of> > late Guruji, Sri KSK.> > > > It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified> > according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for matching> > the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. In> > this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple will> > lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this there is> > no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, Saturn> > Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes> > according to KP system.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > -> > > > adith kasinath.g.k> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM> > > > KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear friends,> > > >> > > > Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed in> > the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.?> > > >> > > > Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom?> > > >> > > > I hope this is being given in some sw.> > > >> > > > I will be obliged to get these details> > > >> > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > Adith> > > >> > >> > >> > > Â> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php> > >> > >> > >> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php> > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 Dear Adith, Could you please send me the charts where this rule has failed...because in actual practice it is in extremely rare cases that one among these combinations are found to exist...! With kind regards, Yogesh Lajmi.--- On Fri, 16/4/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinathRe: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching"Yogesh Lajmi" <yogeshlajmiReceived: Friday, 16 April, 2010, 3:42 PM Dear Yogesh ji,I agree with your points.But I am doubtful about the possibility of NO ACCIDENT in one's life time due to the said combination.We have to study a lot. I remeber I tried to apply to few cases, I failed. With RegardsAdith On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote: Dear Senthil, If one was destined to suffer a bad injury in an accident,he would have forgotten to wear a helmet,or he would have suffered severe injuries,despite his wearing a helmet... that is how destiny operates...(Karma in action...). One can explain why one is lucky not to have a single accident in his entire life,only by K.P. Principles... If the Vimshottari Dasa period running is ruled by the s/lords of the cusps of IV,VIII & XII,one will surely meet with an accident... Whereas,if the setup of the sublords of the houses IV,VIII & XII are set up as follows : Venus-Saturn-Venus Venus-Merc-Venus Moon-Sun-Moon Moon-Mars-Moon Sat-Merc-Saturn such a Jatak will never suffer even a small scratch in his entire lifetime...! Also, a careful in-depth examination of the s/l of the Ascendant can reveal ones Destiny...Long/Short Life,Rich/Poor,Healthy/Sickly and so on...as was decided by Bramha soon after one's Birth... And so on...Krishnamurthi Padhdhati, has so many wonderful possibilities...! ! An indepth study of K.P., patiently and carefully,will surely help dizcover these possibilities... With the very best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. GOOD LUCK ! --- On Fri, 16/4/10, Senthil <athi_ram wrote: Senthil <athi_ram Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching Received: Friday, 16 April, 2010, 12:58 AM Dear Adith, // If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope. There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control?// As per my view if the person has to meet with an accident in a particular moment but no death is indicated that is including DBA as well as transit don't signify/agree for death(badaka/ maraka etc) then some how he/she will escape by wearing helmet or without Helmet. I have explained few months back in this forum. During my advanced astrology study time (may be year 2000) one accident case chat was discussed in the class who didn’t die but went to coma stage. Similarly, suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. Due to some reason they may ignore or misguided by some other astrologer/somebody etc and finally they may not be going for the marriage with girl you have suggested as THE BEST MATCH.(Hope this may be happening for most Astrologers too.) So as an astrologer what are you controlling here? I believe that you are doing you own karma only (say astrologer work/duty) Hope you can understand it now and the above are my personal views only. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil --- On Wed, 4/14/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching@gro ups.com Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 7:25 PM Dear Suna ji,Thanks for your valuable explanation.So kind of you.You mean to say that one will be free to do according to the present sources available or the effort he himself takes to do it. I agree with this to a great extent. But if he is not destined astrologically, he may not succeed in his effort.For instance, a boy if he tries hard to get score , he can not if his chart and periods do not support. But as you said, I agree as follows:For instance, if one takes up his decision to do or no to a work according to his own thought or by some one's advice, his current deeds are controlled .He may escape from doing a wrong deed as per the past Karma.When no vehicles were invented, if a man those days has the significations of 4,11 he will get a cart or similar to that. After the inventions of the Vehicles, one will get the bike or car etc.,. It means one could be influenced with the present available sources. Similarly, one will do his deeds according to his present situation and his mind set and effort. If he is a person with any past bitter experience in any event, business, when his similar bad time comes again, he will take his decision vary cautiously sothat the impact will be reduced , though not avoided fully. So he has the control.Similarly in the present life, one has good contacts with gurus, good astrologers, well wishers , even a person with bad characters is guided properly and does some good deeds. In those days, in a joint family where there will be a Head (very old experienced person) who will lead the total family members. Everyone has to act according to his advice only. There the percentage of failures, wrong deeds were greatly reduced. Though one of the family member who has the tendency to do bad events will be under control. But once that Head passes away, the total family is collapsed and splitted. Then as there is no guidance, they act act as per the destiny without any control and face the troubles accordingly.If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope.There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control?The above are my personal points only.Your valuable inputs are welcome, as you are all much experienced person.Thanks and REgardsAdith On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote: Dear Adith ji,I also wish to add some ideas for your doubt on Kamma. If a person had done any good deeds or bad deeds in his previous birth, and if he has not finished his Karma for rebirth, he may receive passport to the next birth. Sometimes he might have low marks in his last examination in his previous birth, but enough level for a pass, he may come back to the universe to complete his lost subject and for high marks to finish his journey of life. So everyone must understand this fact of completing his weak subjects and get the highest mark rate for a pass. This is a very simple interpretation of Kamma. If a man climbs to the third floor of a building, it is undeniable true that his arriving to third floor is a result of his past action (Kamma) that is, WALKING up the stairs. And having arrived there, it is impossible for him to reach out and touch the ground with his hand, or drive a car up and down there. Obviously this is because he has gone up to the third floor. Or, having arrived at the third floor, whether he is too exhausted to continue is also related to having walked up the stairs. His arrival there, the things he is able to do there and the situation he is likely to encounter, are all certainly related to the OLD KAMMA of having walked up the stairs. But exactly which action he will perform, his reactions to the situations which arise there, whether he will take a rest, walk on, or walk back down the stairs and out of that building, are all matters which he can decide for himself in that PRESENT moment, for which he will also reap the results. Even though the action of walking up the stairs may still be influencing him (for example, with his strength sapped he may be unable to function efficiently in any given situation), whether he decides to give in to that tiredness or try to overcome it, are all matters which he can decide for himself in the present moment. Therefore OLD KAMMA should be understood in its relation to the whole cause and effect process. In terms of ethical practice, to understand the cause and effect process is to be able to learn from Old Kamma, understanding the situation at hand, and to skillfully make a plan of action for improving and correcting the future. Kalyan TW <tw853 > @gro ups.comWed, 14 April, 2010 9:06:02 AM Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching Dear Adith ji,1. Everything in one's life may be said as predestined at the moment of birth by past karma for the possibility of cent percent accuracy in the astrological prediction which is not the case in practice. Because please note "it may be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects of his Karma."2. "If the present life is totally conditioned or wholly controlled by our past actions, then certainly Karma is tantamount to fatalism or determinism or predestination. If this were true, free will would be an absurdity. Life would be purely mechanistic, not much different from a machine. Such a fatalistic doctrine is not the Buddhist law of Karma…Karma does not necessarily mean past actions. It embraces both past and present deeds. Hence in one sense, we are the result of what we were; we will be the result of what we are… The inequality that exists among mankind is the result of our own past actions and our own present doings (esp viriya 'effort' and panna 'wisdom'). We ourselves are responsible for our own."-Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw (The Theory of Karma)3. In the Upajjhatthana Sutta (AN 5.57), the Lord Buddha states:"I am the owner of my karma. I inherit my karma. I am born of my karma. I am related to my karma. I live supported by my karma. Whatever karma I create, whether good or evil, that I shall inherit."Regards,TW @gro ups.com, "adith kasinath.g.k" <gkadithkasinath@ ...> wrote:>> Dear TW ji,> > Thanks for the valuable points by our Guruji.> > But I ever have teh following question in mind unanswered.> > When all is destined in one life, he can not be responsible for his deeds in> the present life.> For example, if one happens to be a bad person in all activities due to his> past bad deeds, he may not be in a position to do any good deeds in his> present life. In this case, in his next births also we can expect him to be> a bad human only. So how can one is expected to do any good deeds in his> birth?> > can you enlighten me on this?> > Regards> Adith> > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM, TW <tw853 wrote:> > >> >> > *Guruji KSK's Quotations on Karma, Destiny*> >> > Chances, luck or misfortune are governed by the law of Causation or Karma.> > God is neither partial or unjust, and everything happens according to one's> > action in the past birth.> >> > When we think we understand that the theory "Karma and Incarnation" alone> > can convince.--- what we have to enjoy is undoubtedly predestined. I cannot> > understand how the judgment of God can be, in any manner, modified or> > nullified by our efforts.---> >> > Everything is predestined. ---None can dodge fate.--- If one can change the> > event by one's will, then astrology has no place.> >> > Karma can be divided broadly into three kinds: Dhruda (fixed) Karma that> > one has committed an inexcusable mistake or crime in the previous birth,> > Dhruda - Adhruda (fixed/non-fixed) Karma that one would have committed an> > excusable mistake in the previous birth, and Adhruda (non-fixed) Karma that> > the crime committed may be negligible…The majority of people commit> > excusable mistakes called Dhruda – Adhruda Karma. Therefore Shanti will be> > done by them with or without their knowledge and they will not ultimately> > suffer… Just like one has no choice about his birth time, place and his> > parents, so also there is nothing left in one's hands. Everything is> > pre-destined. None can change it. Then only one can use this> > science…Astrology is a science. It needs further research and confirmation.> > There is no use for the word "Likely". Everything is a certainty… It may> > be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of> > his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way> > directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects> > of his Karma.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Prasanna,> > >                      As per K.P.,and nobody/nothing> > can change human destiny/fate, once written by Brahma soon after one's> > birth...your quote of Nacchiketa is of a very rare and extra-ordinary> > case...> > >                      Guruji KSK had predicted the> > death of a retired senior retired Govt. Official who requested him> > to predit even the Tome of his death...which the worthy disbelieved> > totally,and in order to prov KSK wrong,made arrangements to sith in his lawn> > under a Garden Umbrella with a Thermos Flask full of coffee to wait out well> > past the predited thr Time of Death...but alas,from the corner of his eyes> > he was watching his dear grandson play on the verendah...and to his great> > horror he saw him walking baxckwards towards the garden and to a fall on the> > ground below and that too backwards... in a desperate attempt at preventing> > him from walking towards his certain fall,he made a dash for him,his foot> > got stuck in the crossbar of the easychair in which he was seated and he> > fell down,hitting his head on the ston steps with a resounding thud,and he> > died instantly,and to the surprise of all, the time was exactly what KSK had> > > predicted days in advance...!> > >                         The above has ben> > narrated in his original Books...and prove that Astroloby is a Vedanga and> > is born out of the Karma Theory...what is destined WILL take place...come> > what may... !> > >                         This also proves the> > accuracy of K.P. and Krishnamurthi Ayanamsa...> > >                         Another "live" proof can> > be had by anyone,if he so desires :> > >                         First have a Birth Chart> > correctly cast by a K.P. Astrologer after the necessary corrections( if> > needed),are made...> > >                         Then,pl. note the exact> > time at which one gets a cut or has a fall with blood oozing out of the> > wound...> > >                         To your great chagrin,> > the sublords of the IVth,VIIIth & XIIth cusps,will be the Dasa/Bhukti/ Anthra> > lords of the persons Dasa running at the time... !> > >                         Pl. check and> > inform,this is a "love" proof...what more is required ?> > >                         With best wishes,> > >                         Yogesh Lajmi.> > >                      Â> > >                Â> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@> >> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com > > > Cc: ssagar86@> >> > > Received: Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 6:48 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Respected sagarji,> > > your views seem to be fatalistic. Human life is just a tiny part of this> > vast BRAMHANDA.So many factors effect human life that it is not possible to> > predict what will happen in future. Astrologers can only in some way study> > the trend or tendencies.With the gene therapy even diffective genes can be> > replaced, which instigates people to go for wrong action causing wrong> > result. It is said person doing PAPA will get his due result in this KALI> > ERA itself. Instances may be found where even Prarabdha was changed. Story> > of NACHIKETA is known to all. Story of SAVITRI is also known to all. It> > depends on the person who has been sufferring. In fact in KALI ERA people> > do not have patience or faith that mountains can be moved.Hence no serious> > effort is done to change the destiny. Hence with all due respect to you> > please give your opinion in this regard.> > > Â> > > Prasanna> > > Â> >> > >> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 8:17 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > >> > > ASTROLOGER TELLS WHAT MAY HAPPEN, BUT GOD ONLY CAN TELL WHAT EXACTLY WILL> > HAPPEN.> > >> > > Naidu KP> > >> > > K. P. Naidu,> > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > > Nowroji Road,> > > Maharanipeta,> > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 12:03 AM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > > Dear Adith> > > MY first conference attend in Feb 1989 at Cuttack.> > > i have presented three papers and speak on one important subject called "> > Everything is predestined and no one can change or alter it , even the> > Creator lord Brahma"> > > We astrologers can predict the events what will happen, neither we can> > change or alter it.> > > I have quoted " yatha raja , tatha praja" likewise "yatha graha tatha> > phala".> > > Almost all astrologer appreciated my speech, later Mr.Subramaniam asked> > me " ur speech truly marvelous, but can u answer for one doubt" can u run in> > a front of running vehicle by assuming that everything predestined"> > > my answer was " if my fate is predestined to met with accident i will run> > in front of a running bus, if my fate is not predestined for accident even> > though i run in front of a running bus , driver will try to rescue me and he> > will turn his vehicle which will kill some which has predestined is one> > thing on the other hand my mind will not permit me to run in front of> > running bus".> > > All astrologers are only a reader what will happen in the future.> > > in fact i wont match guna kuta , i will match the girl and boy chart> > weather their marriage has predestined or not.> > > I use to predict few points of the girl/boy as per their charts.It> > happened too.> > > Regards> > > Sahhasra Saagara> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Senthil athi_ram >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:58:28 PM> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Adith,> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with> > their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an> > astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is> > no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. So what is> > the use for matching the charts? Actually you have to find firstly whether> > as per his destiny his Girl’s chart is available among the 10 charts are> > not? If yes, that is it else ask them to bring any other set of charts to> > find his Girl (written as per his destiny) that is all. I have written an> > article based on my past failure case (job offers) regarding “which> > company he will join?†in KP annual number 2010 you may refer it.> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Also during my study on Driving license one of the person who failed in> > the 1st road test asked me the following (refer Quiz-8). He was ready to> > attend ONLY ON TEST (no more test & the person was having urge etc.) which> > he should get PASS. Now you have to tell which date/time he should attend> > the test so that he will get pass on that day/time. You have to guarantee> > that he will get appointment on that date/time (there is a chance he can> > purposely get appointment for some other date/time or the date may be> > already booked by many candidate and full etc), the test should be conducted> > on that date/time (it should not be declared holiday or cancelled due to any> > reason etc) and also he should attend the test on that date/time without> > fail (not absent due to any reasons or there is a chance he can purposely> > not to attend test on that date/time etc) and he should get PASS.> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Are you ready to give all the above correct? Any one failure is> > sufficient to say that our prediction is WRONG.> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > > So what is our (astrologer’s) role? I personally believe that we are> > the tools through us some message is passed on the native/quarent that is> > it.> > >> > > Â> > > The above are my personal views and not to criticize you or anybody.> > > Â> > > GOOD LUCK!!> > > Â> > > D.Senthil> > > Â> > >> > >> > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:49 AM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Dear Sagar ji,> > >> > > I accept your points. . But if it is destined, whats the role of> > Astrologer in matching? Why should we match?> > >> > > Does any astrologer play role in fixing the match ? or helping to find> > the best match?> > >> > > I hope there must some logic behind in our old says..> > >> > > As per the Astrologers guidelines if anyone follows, the incidents can> > not be stopped but the impact can be reduced. Similarly, in a chart if he> > has a poor significations for a happy marital life, if he is marched to a> > better one, there wont be permanent separation but misunderstanding or> > temporary separation during the unfavorable period.> > > Pls give your views on the above.> > >> > > With Regards> > > Adith> > >> > >> > >> > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi> > > neither guna nor kuta will helpful in matching of boy-girl horoscope as> > it is predestined and he/she should get marry what has already destined in> > their charts.> > > i remember one girl chart in which i had predicted short marital life> > as well as i had predicted diseases of her husband by anlysing her chart.> > Later girl married and lead marital life for few years and her faced health> > problem resulted in his death.> >> > > both in hindu predictive as well as in kp for marital life some> > combination and significance has given.> > > Regards> > > Sahhasra Saagara> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >> > >> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > > Cc: Wyomesh wyomeshd >> > > Thu, 8 April, 2010 8:14:18 PM> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Wyomesh,> > >                       Yoni Guna has been taken> > care of in KPDP, for your information, under compatibility. ..!> > >                        With best wishes,> > >                       Yogesh Lajmi.> >> > >> > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, Wyomesh wyomeshd > wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > > Wyomesh wyomeshd >> > > Subject: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > >> > >> > > Received: Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 1:59 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > > Hello> > >> > > I would like to add here something... .> > > It is very important to see YONI GUNA. Suppose male YONI is GAU (cow)> > > and Female's Yoni is VYAGHRA ( LION)... Both are hard enemies. So, Even> > on matching perfect can not give satisfactory married life.> > >> > > So we should always look for traditional rules with KP.> > >> > > Thank you> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "kadavasalramani" <kadavasalramani@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sri Adithj,> > > >> > > > KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of> > late Guruji, Sri KSK.> > > > It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified> > according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for matching> > the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. In> > this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple will> > lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this there is> > no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, Saturn> > Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes> > according to KP system.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > -> > > > adith kasinath.g.k> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM> > > > KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear friends,> > > >> > > > Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed in> > the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.?> > > >> > > > Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom?> > > >> > > > I hope this is being given in some sw.> > > >> > > > I will be obliged to get these details> > > >> > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > Adith> > > >> > >> > >> > > Â> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php> > >> > >> > >> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php> > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 Dear friends, with this head of subject ...that is kpdp rules in marriage matching...i couldnot find any of you given actual rules at all.. and all the time writing only some kamma thoeries.... please come back to astrology and produce rules to marriage matching as per kp...and how by seeing any charts of boy and girl instantly we can tell that these are born to couple together... coming back to your kamma theories....please take your retreats first...do some years fo actual meditation ....then with practical expeirience only...you guys can have .after realisation of some final truth can discuss and teach other....not by mere referring some others works... thanking you, suniel 09297102711--- On Sat, 17/4/10, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote: Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmiRe: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching"adith kasinath.g.k" <gkadithkasinathCc: Date: Saturday, 17 April, 2010, 10:29 AM Dear Adith, Could you please send me the charts where this rule has failed...because in actual practice it is in extremely rare cases that one among these combinations are found to exist...! With kind regards, Yogesh Lajmi.--- On Fri, 16/4/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching"Yogesh Lajmi" <yogeshlajmi@ >Received: Friday, 16 April, 2010, 3:42 PM Dear Yogesh ji,I agree with your points.But I am doubtful about the possibility of NO ACCIDENT in one's life time due to the said combination.We have to study a lot. I remeber I tried to apply to few cases, I failed. With RegardsAdith On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: Dear Senthil, If one was destined to suffer a bad injury in an accident,he would have forgotten to wear a helmet,or he would have suffered severe injuries,despite his wearing a helmet... that is how destiny operates...(Karma in action...). One can explain why one is lucky not to have a single accident in his entire life,only by K.P. Principles.. . If the Vimshottari Dasa period running is ruled by the s/lords of the cusps of IV,VIII & XII,one will surely meet with an accident... Whereas,if the setup of the sublords of the houses IV,VIII & XII are set up as follows : Venus-Saturn- Venus Venus-Merc-Venus Moon-Sun-Moon Moon-Mars-Moon Sat-Merc-Saturn such a Jatak will never suffer even a small scratch in his entire lifetime...! Also, a careful in-depth examination of the s/l of the Ascendant can reveal ones Destiny...Long/ Short Life,Rich/Poor, Healthy/Sickly and so on...as was decided by Bramha soon after one's Birth... And so on...Krishnamurthi Padhdhati, has so many wonderful possibilities. ..! ! An indepth study of K.P., patiently and carefully,will surely help dizcover these possibilities. .. With the very best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. GOOD LUCK ! --- On Fri, 16/4/10, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Senthil <athi_ram > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching@gro ups.comReceived: Friday, 16 April, 2010, 12:58 AM Dear Adith, // If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope. There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control?// As per my view if the person has to meet with an accident in a particular moment but no death is indicated that is including DBA as well as transit don't signify/agree for death(badaka/ maraka etc) then some how he/she will escape by wearing helmet or without Helmet. I have explained few months back in this forum. During my advanced astrology study time (may be year 2000) one accident case chat was discussed in the class who didn’t die but went to coma stage. Similarly, suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. Due to some reason they may ignore or misguided by some other astrologer/somebody etc and finally they may not be going for the marriage with girl you have suggested as THE BEST MATCH.(Hope this may be happening for most Astrologers too.) So as an astrologer what are you controlling here? I believe that you are doing you own karma only (say astrologer work/duty) Hope you can understand it now and the above are my personal views only. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil --- On Wed, 4/14/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching@gro ups.com Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 7:25 PM Dear Suna ji,Thanks for your valuable explanation.So kind of you.You mean to say that one will be free to do according to the present sources available or the effort he himself takes to do it. I agree with this to a great extent. But if he is not destined astrologically, he may not succeed in his effort.For instance, a boy if he tries hard to get score , he can not if his chart and periods do not support. But as you said, I agree as follows:For instance, if one takes up his decision to do or no to a work according to his own thought or by some one's advice, his current deeds are controlled .He may escape from doing a wrong deed as per the past Karma.When no vehicles were invented, if a man those days has the significations of 4,11 he will get a cart or similar to that. After the inventions of the Vehicles, one will get the bike or car etc.,. It means one could be influenced with the present available sources. Similarly, one will do his deeds according to his present situation and his mind set and effort. If he is a person with any past bitter experience in any event, business, when his similar bad time comes again, he will take his decision vary cautiously sothat the impact will be reduced , though not avoided fully. So he has the control.Similarly in the present life, one has good contacts with gurus, good astrologers, well wishers , even a person with bad characters is guided properly and does some good deeds. In those days, in a joint family where there will be a Head (very old experienced person) who will lead the total family members. Everyone has to act according to his advice only. There the percentage of failures, wrong deeds were greatly reduced. Though one of the family member who has the tendency to do bad events will be under control. But once that Head passes away, the total family is collapsed and splitted. Then as there is no guidance, they act act as per the destiny without any control and face the troubles accordingly.If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope.There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control?The above are my personal points only.Your valuable inputs are welcome, as you are all much experienced person.Thanks and REgardsAdith On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote: Dear Adith ji,I also wish to add some ideas for your doubt on Kamma. If a person had done any good deeds or bad deeds in his previous birth, and if he has not finished his Karma for rebirth, he may receive passport to the next birth. Sometimes he might have low marks in his last examination in his previous birth, but enough level for a pass, he may come back to the universe to complete his lost subject and for high marks to finish his journey of life. So everyone must understand this fact of completing his weak subjects and get the highest mark rate for a pass. This is a very simple interpretation of Kamma. If a man climbs to the third floor of a building, it is undeniable true that his arriving to third floor is a result of his past action (Kamma) that is, WALKING up the stairs. And having arrived there, it is impossible for him to reach out and touch the ground with his hand, or drive a car up and down there. Obviously this is because he has gone up to the third floor. Or, having arrived at the third floor, whether he is too exhausted to continue is also related to having walked up the stairs. His arrival there, the things he is able to do there and the situation he is likely to encounter, are all certainly related to the OLD KAMMA of having walked up the stairs. But exactly which action he will perform, his reactions to the situations which arise there, whether he will take a rest, walk on, or walk back down the stairs and out of that building, are all matters which he can decide for himself in that PRESENT moment, for which he will also reap the results. Even though the action of walking up the stairs may still be influencing him (for example, with his strength sapped he may be unable to function efficiently in any given situation), whether he decides to give in to that tiredness or try to overcome it, are all matters which he can decide for himself in the present moment. Therefore OLD KAMMA should be understood in its relation to the whole cause and effect process. In terms of ethical practice, to understand the cause and effect process is to be able to learn from Old Kamma, understanding the situation at hand, and to skillfully make a plan of action for improving and correcting the future. Kalyan TW <tw853 > @gro ups.comWed, 14 April, 2010 9:06:02 AM Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching Dear Adith ji,1. Everything in one's life may be said as predestined at the moment of birth by past karma for the possibility of cent percent accuracy in the astrological prediction which is not the case in practice. Because please note "it may be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects of his Karma."2. "If the present life is totally conditioned or wholly controlled by our past actions, then certainly Karma is tantamount to fatalism or determinism or predestination. If this were true, free will would be an absurdity. Life would be purely mechanistic, not much different from a machine. Such a fatalistic doctrine is not the Buddhist law of Karma…Karma does not necessarily mean past actions. It embraces both past and present deeds. Hence in one sense, we are the result of what we were; we will be the result of what we are… The inequality that exists among mankind is the result of our own past actions and our own present doings (esp viriya 'effort' and panna 'wisdom'). We ourselves are responsible for our own."-Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw (The Theory of Karma)3. In the Upajjhatthana Sutta (AN 5.57), the Lord Buddha states:"I am the owner of my karma. I inherit my karma. I am born of my karma. I am related to my karma. I live supported by my karma. Whatever karma I create, whether good or evil, that I shall inherit."Regards,TW @gro ups.com, "adith kasinath.g.k" <gkadithkasinath@ ...> wrote:>> Dear TW ji,> > Thanks for the valuable points by our Guruji.> > But I ever have teh following question in mind unanswered.> > When all is destined in one life, he can not be responsible for his deeds in> the present life.> For example, if one happens to be a bad person in all activities due to his> past bad deeds, he may not be in a position to do any good deeds in his> present life. In this case, in his next births also we can expect him to be> a bad human only. So how can one is expected to do any good deeds in his> birth?> > can you enlighten me on this?> > Regards> Adith> > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM, TW <tw853 wrote:> > >> >> > *Guruji KSK's Quotations on Karma, Destiny*> >> > Chances, luck or misfortune are governed by the law of Causation or Karma.> > God is neither partial or unjust, and everything happens according to one's> > action in the past birth.> >> > When we think we understand that the theory "Karma and Incarnation" alone> > can convince.--- what we have to enjoy is undoubtedly predestined. I cannot> > understand how the judgment of God can be, in any manner, modified or> > nullified by our efforts.---> >> > Everything is predestined. ---None can dodge fate.--- If one can change the> > event by one's will, then astrology has no place.> >> > Karma can be divided broadly into three kinds: Dhruda (fixed) Karma that> > one has committed an inexcusable mistake or crime in the previous birth,> > Dhruda - Adhruda (fixed/non-fixed) Karma that one would have committed an> > excusable mistake in the previous birth, and Adhruda (non-fixed) Karma that> > the crime committed may be negligible…The majority of people commit> > excusable mistakes called Dhruda – Adhruda Karma. Therefore Shanti will be> > done by them with or without their knowledge and they will not ultimately> > suffer… Just like one has no choice about his birth time, place and his> > parents, so also there is nothing left in one's hands. Everything is> > pre-destined. None can change it. Then only one can use this> > science…Astrology is a science. It needs further research and confirmation.> > There is no use for the word "Likely". Everything is a certainty… It may> > be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of> > his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way> > directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects> > of his Karma.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Prasanna,> > >                      As per K.P.,and nobody/nothing> > can change human destiny/fate, once written by Brahma soon after one's> > birth...your quote of Nacchiketa is of a very rare and extra-ordinary> > case...> > >                      Guruji KSK had predicted the> > death of a retired senior retired Govt. Official who requested him> > to predit even the Tome of his death...which the worthy disbelieved> > totally,and in order to prov KSK wrong,made arrangements to sith in his lawn> > under a Garden Umbrella with a Thermos Flask full of coffee to wait out well> > past the predited thr Time of Death...but alas,from the corner of his eyes> > he was watching his dear grandson play on the verendah...and to his great> > horror he saw him walking baxckwards towards the garden and to a fall on the> > ground below and that too backwards... in a desperate attempt at preventing> > him from walking towards his certain fall,he made a dash for him,his foot> > got stuck in the crossbar of the easychair in which he was seated and he> > fell down,hitting his head on the ston steps with a resounding thud,and he> > died instantly,and to the surprise of all, the time was exactly what KSK had> > > predicted days in advance...!> > >                         The above has ben> > narrated in his original Books...and prove that Astroloby is a Vedanga and> > is born out of the Karma Theory...what is destined WILL take place...come> > what may... !> > >                         This also proves the> > accuracy of K.P. and Krishnamurthi Ayanamsa...> > >                         Another "live" proof can> > be had by anyone,if he so desires :> > >                         First have a Birth Chart> > correctly cast by a K.P. Astrologer after the necessary corrections( if> > needed),are made...> > >                         Then,pl. note the exact> > time at which one gets a cut or has a fall with blood oozing out of the> > wound...> > >                         To your great chagrin,> > the sublords of the IVth,VIIIth & XIIth cusps,will be the Dasa/Bhukti/ Anthra> > lords of the persons Dasa running at the time... !> > >                         Pl. check and> > inform,this is a "love" proof...what more is required ?> > >                         With best wishes,> > >                         Yogesh Lajmi.> > >                      Â> > >                Â> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@> >> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com > > > Cc: ssagar86@> >> > > Received: Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 6:48 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Respected sagarji,> > > your views seem to be fatalistic. Human life is just a tiny part of this> > vast BRAMHANDA.So many factors effect human life that it is not possible to> > predict what will happen in future. Astrologers can only in some way study> > the trend or tendencies.With the gene therapy even diffective genes can be> > replaced, which instigates people to go for wrong action causing wrong> > result. It is said person doing PAPA will get his due result in this KALI> > ERA itself. Instances may be found where even Prarabdha was changed. Story> > of NACHIKETA is known to all. Story of SAVITRI is also known to all. It> > depends on the person who has been sufferring. In fact in KALI ERA people> > do not have patience or faith that mountains can be moved.Hence no serious> > effort is done to change the destiny. Hence with all due respect to you> > please give your opinion in this regard.> > > Â> > > Prasanna> > > Â> >> > >> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 8:17 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > >> > > ASTROLOGER TELLS WHAT MAY HAPPEN, BUT GOD ONLY CAN TELL WHAT EXACTLY WILL> > HAPPEN.> > >> > > Naidu KP> > >> > > K. P. Naidu,> > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > > Nowroji Road,> > > Maharanipeta,> > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 12:03 AM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > > Dear Adith> > > MY first conference attend in Feb 1989 at Cuttack.> > > i have presented three papers and speak on one important subject called "> > Everything is predestined and no one can change or alter it , even the> > Creator lord Brahma"> > > We astrologers can predict the events what will happen, neither we can> > change or alter it.> > > I have quoted " yatha raja , tatha praja" likewise "yatha graha tatha> > phala".> > > Almost all astrologer appreciated my speech, later Mr.Subramaniam asked> > me " ur speech truly marvelous, but can u answer for one doubt" can u run in> > a front of running vehicle by assuming that everything predestined"> > > my answer was " if my fate is predestined to met with accident i will run> > in front of a running bus, if my fate is not predestined for accident even> > though i run in front of a running bus , driver will try to rescue me and he> > will turn his vehicle which will kill some which has predestined is one> > thing on the other hand my mind will not permit me to run in front of> > running bus".> > > All astrologers are only a reader what will happen in the future.> > > in fact i wont match guna kuta , i will match the girl and boy chart> > weather their marriage has predestined or not.> > > I use to predict few points of the girl/boy as per their charts.It> > happened too.> > > Regards> > > Sahhasra Saagara> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Senthil athi_ram >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:58:28 PM> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Adith,> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with> > their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an> > astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is> > no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. So what is> > the use for matching the charts? Actually you have to find firstly whether> > as per his destiny his Girl’s chart is available among the 10 charts are> > not? If yes, that is it else ask them to bring any other set of charts to> > find his Girl (written as per his destiny) that is all. I have written an> > article based on my past failure case (job offers) regarding “which> > company he will join?†in KP annual number 2010 you may refer it.> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Also during my study on Driving license one of the person who failed in> > the 1st road test asked me the following (refer Quiz-8). He was ready to> > attend ONLY ON TEST (no more test & the person was having urge etc.) which> > he should get PASS. Now you have to tell which date/time he should attend> > the test so that he will get pass on that day/time. You have to guarantee> > that he will get appointment on that date/time (there is a chance he can> > purposely get appointment for some other date/time or the date may be> > already booked by many candidate and full etc), the test should be conducted> > on that date/time (it should not be declared holiday or cancelled due to any> > reason etc) and also he should attend the test on that date/time without> > fail (not absent due to any reasons or there is a chance he can purposely> > not to attend test on that date/time etc) and he should get PASS.> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Are you ready to give all the above correct? Any one failure is> > sufficient to say that our prediction is WRONG.> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > > So what is our (astrologer’s) role? I personally believe that we are> > the tools through us some message is passed on the native/quarent that is> > it.> > >> > > Â> > > The above are my personal views and not to criticize you or anybody.> > > Â> > > GOOD LUCK!!> > > Â> > > D.Senthil> > > Â> > >> > >> > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:49 AM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Dear Sagar ji,> > >> > > I accept your points. . But if it is destined, whats the role of> > Astrologer in matching? Why should we match?> > >> > > Does any astrologer play role in fixing the match ? or helping to find> > the best match?> > >> > > I hope there must some logic behind in our old says..> > >> > > As per the Astrologers guidelines if anyone follows, the incidents can> > not be stopped but the impact can be reduced. Similarly, in a chart if he> > has a poor significations for a happy marital life, if he is marched to a> > better one, there wont be permanent separation but misunderstanding or> > temporary separation during the unfavorable period.> > > Pls give your views on the above.> > >> > > With Regards> > > Adith> > >> > >> > >> > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi> > > neither guna nor kuta will helpful in matching of boy-girl horoscope as> > it is predestined and he/she should get marry what has already destined in> > their charts.> > > i remember one girl chart in which i had predicted short marital life> > as well as i had predicted diseases of her husband by anlysing her chart.> > Later girl married and lead marital life for few years and her faced health> > problem resulted in his death.> >> > > both in hindu predictive as well as in kp for marital life some> > combination and significance has given.> > > Regards> > > Sahhasra Saagara> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >> > >> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > > Cc: Wyomesh wyomeshd >> > > Thu, 8 April, 2010 8:14:18 PM> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Wyomesh,> > >                       Yoni Guna has been taken> > care of in KPDP, for your information, under compatibility. ..!> > >                        With best wishes,> > >                       Yogesh Lajmi.> >> > >> > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, Wyomesh wyomeshd > wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > > Wyomesh wyomeshd >> > > Subject: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > >> > >> > > Received: Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 1:59 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > > Hello> > >> > > I would like to add here something... .> > > It is very important to see YONI GUNA. Suppose male YONI is GAU (cow)> > > and Female's Yoni is VYAGHRA ( LION)... Both are hard enemies. So, Even> > on matching perfect can not give satisfactory married life.> > >> > > So we should always look for traditional rules with KP.> > >> > > Thank you> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "kadavasalramani" <kadavasalramani@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sri Adithj,> > > >> > > > KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of> > late Guruji, Sri KSK.> > > > It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified> > according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for matching> > the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. In> > this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple will> > lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this there is> > no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, Saturn> > Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes> > according to KP system.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > -> > > > adith kasinath.g.k> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM> > > > KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear friends,> > > >> > > > Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed in> > the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.?> > > >> > > > Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom?> > > >> > > > I hope this is being given in some sw.> > > >> > > > I will be obliged to get these details> > > >> > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > Adith> > > >> > >> > >> > > Â> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php> > >> > >> > >> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php> > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 Dear TWjiThank you so much for the prompt reply. I was hoping that she be financially independentbefore marriage. She would have cleared writing her papers in Oct. this year. Ju. would enter Pisces in Dec this year So she may get the job after marriage.I hope it will ba love marriage, as hinted by uThankyou once again.RegardsSujata--- On Fri, 16/4/10, TW <tw853 wrote:TW <tw853 Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching Date: Friday, 16 April, 2010, 7:23 AM Dear Sujata ji, 1. Your concern of his 1CSL Ju+(11Bdk,6- 9)closely Conj Ve(11,4-11) is understandable. 2. However Ju+ is a very strong significator of houses 1 & 3 by cuspal sublordship without any planet in its stars. Ju is in star Ma(10,5-10), and sub Ke(9)with stl Me(1,3-12) & sgl Ju. So medium longivity is expected. 3. Her 7CSL Ve(11,3-8) is in star Mo(10,5) and sub Sa(7Bdk,11-12) . 4. Marriage matter would be unavoidable for her when transit Ju is passing Pisces while Sa is in Virgo. Good luck for her! (with 7CS signifying 5th & 5CSL 7th house) TW Basic Data Boy,29-7-1977, 06:14AM,Nellore, 14N26,79E58, KPNA 23:27:14,Asc Cn 16:22:08 Girl,13-06-1983, 11:00AM,New Delhi,28N36, 77E12,KPNA 23:31:48,Asc Pi 09:05:08 KPDK Matching total score 63.33%, Criterion no 10 58.33% on 15-04-2010 by KPAstro 3.5 @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote: > > Dear TWji > I am considering a boy for my daughter. KPDP score is 59%, KPDP 10 is more than 80% but I am concerned about his longivity. His lagna sublord is ju+ in badhaksthan in rapt conjunction with ve, badhaka lord. His ju dasa will start after 13 yrs. > Would u kindly give your views about his longivity ? > His dob is 29-7-77, pob is Nellore, tob is 6-14 am. > My daughters 7th csl is csl of 6, 8 and 1 > With many thanks in advance > Regards > Sujata > > --- On Wed, 14/4/10, TW <tw853 wrote: > > TW <tw853 > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > @gro ups.com > Wednesday, 14 April, 2010, 8:34 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > 1. Matching is not recommendable, if the KPDP criterion no 10 "WETHER THE PERIOD LORDS NOW OPERATING IN BOTH CHARTS NOW INDICATE DESIRABILITY OF MATCHING FOR MARRIAGE" is below 51 even though total score is high. > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 5535 > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 11184?threaded= 1 > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28308?threaded= 1 > > 2. In the cases of multi-marriage, the KPDP matching scores may not be clear indicators. > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28128?threaded= 1 > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28186?threaded= 1 > > 3. In the cases of complaints for divorce, the marriage would not break down, if the criterion no 10 score is high above 51 at that time. > > 4. Request of any member for KPDP calculation would be done by KPAstro 3.5 and posted in this forum. > > Regards, > > TW > > > > @gro ups.com, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friend. > > > > > > Yes it is not in any KP Books in any language. > > > KPDP is a priceless task of KP Kuppuganapathy ji. > > > > > > To read the whole article please Go to Files->Articles- >KPDP Doc > > > > > > or > > > > > > (KP & Astrology Year Book 1997, page 32-44; also in KP E-Zine March 2007(http://loger .com) incorporated in Shri > > > Raichur’s SW and KPAstro > > > > > > Kalyan > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Niranjan Sant <shreegauriassociat es01@> > > > @gro ups.com > > > Tue, 13 April, 2010 3:05:33 PM > > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > > > What is this KPDP? Can anybody explain in details? I never came accross while going through KP Books in Marathi. > > > > > > Sant Guruji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> > > > @gro ups.com > > > Mon, 12 April, 2010 2:11:02 PM > > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet > > > Kindly installKPDP software on the group files > > > Regard > > > Sujata > > > > > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, K. P. Naidu <konathalan@ . co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >K. P. Naidu <konathalan@ . co.in> > > > >Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >@gro ups.com > > > >Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 10:18 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear sri Adith Ji, > > > > > > > >KPDP rules are available in the files section of this group in Articles section. > > > > > > > >Thanks & Regards, > > > >Naidu KP > > > > > > > >K. P. Naidu, > > > >Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > > >Nowroji Road, > > > >Maharanipeta, > > > >VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > > >Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > > > > >--- On Wed, 7/4/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> > > > >>Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >>@gro ups.com > > > >>Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 3:34 PM > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>Dear Sri Adithj, > > > >> > > > >>KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of late Guruji, Sri KSK. > > > >>It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for matching the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. In this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple will lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this there is no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, Saturn Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes according to KP system. > > > >> > > > >>Regards, > > > >> > > > >>K.S.V.Ramani > > > >>- > > > >>>adith kasinath.g.k > > > >>>@gro ups.com > > > >>>Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM > > > >>> KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>Dear friends, > > > >>> > > > >>>Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed in the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.? > > > >>> > > > >>>Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom? > > > >>> > > > >>>I hope this is being given in some sw. > > > >>> > > > >>>I will be obliged to get these details > > > >>> > > > >>>Thanks and Regards > > > >>>Adith > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > >Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 Dear Friend,The KPDP rules sources were given in the initial replies itself. pls check it.Even these rules are also to be practically experienced.The Karma dicussion is part of this only. If everything is destined, the role of Astrologers in following such rules in matching is of no use. So pls look into the cause of the discussion why karma is taken in this thread ! Hence. pls do not comment on others discussions if you do not understand or not interested. This is my humble suggestion.RegardsAdithOn Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:07 PM, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhama wrote: Dear friends, with this head of subject ...that is kpdp rules in marriage matching...i couldnot find any of you given actual rules at all.. and all the time writing only some kamma thoeries.... please come back to astrology and produce rules to marriage matching as per kp...and how by seeing any charts of boy and girl instantly we can tell that these are born to couple together... coming back to your kamma theories....please take your retreats first...do some years fo actual meditation ....then with practical expeirience only...you guys can have .after realisation of some final truth can discuss and teach other....not by mere referring some others works... thanking you, suniel 09297102711--- On Sat, 17/4/10, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote: Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmiRe: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching " adith kasinath.g.k " <gkadithkasinathCc: Saturday, 17 April, 2010, 10:29 AM Dear Adith, Could you please send me the charts where this rule has failed...because in actual practice it is in extremely rare cases that one among these combinations are found to exist...! With kind regards, Yogesh Lajmi.--- On Fri, 16/4/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching " Yogesh Lajmi " <yogeshlajmi@ >Received: Friday, 16 April, 2010, 3:42 PM Dear Yogesh ji,I agree with your points.But I am doubtful about the possibility of NO ACCIDENT in one's life time due to the said combination.We have to study a lot. I remeber I tried to apply to few cases, I failed. With RegardsAdith On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: Dear Senthil, If one was destined to suffer a bad injury in an accident,he would have forgotten to wear a helmet,or he would have suffered severe injuries,despite his wearing a helmet... that is how destiny operates...(Karma in action...). One can explain why one is lucky not to have a single accident in his entire life,only by K.P. Principles.. . If the Vimshottari Dasa period running is ruled by the s/lords of the cusps of IV,VIII & XII,one will surely meet with an accident... Whereas,if the setup of the sublords of the houses IV,VIII & XII are set up as follows : Venus-Saturn- Venus Venus-Merc-Venus Moon-Sun-Moon Moon-Mars-Moon Sat-Merc-Saturn such a Jatak will never suffer even a small scratch in his entire lifetime...! Also, a careful in-depth examination of the s/l of the Ascendant can reveal ones Destiny...Long/ Short Life,Rich/Poor, Healthy/Sickly and so on...as was decided by Bramha soon after one's Birth... And so on...Krishnamurthi Padhdhati, has so many wonderful possibilities. ..! ! An indepth study of K.P., patiently and carefully,will surely help dizcover these possibilities. .. With the very best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. GOOD LUCK ! --- On Fri, 16/4/10, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Senthil <athi_ram > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching@gro ups.com Received: Friday, 16 April, 2010, 12:58 AM Dear Adith, // If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope. There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control?// As per my view if the person has to meet with an accident in a particular moment but no death is indicated that is including DBA as well as transit don't signify/agree for death(badaka/ maraka etc) then some how he/she will escape by wearing helmet or without Helmet. I have explained few months back in this forum. During my advanced astrology study time (may be year 2000) one accident case chat was discussed in the class who didn’t die but went to coma stage. Similarly, suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. Due to some reason they may ignore or misguided by some other astrologer/somebody etc and finally they may not be going for the marriage with girl you have suggested as THE BEST MATCH.(Hope this may be happening for most Astrologers too.) So as an astrologer what are you controlling here? I believe that you are doing you own karma only (say astrologer work/duty) Hope you can understand it now and the above are my personal views only. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil --- On Wed, 4/14/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching@gro ups.com Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 7:25 PM Dear Suna ji,Thanks for your valuable explanation.So kind of you.You mean to say that one will be free to do according to the present sources available or the effort he himself takes to do it. I agree with this to a great extent. But if he is not destined astrologically, he may not succeed in his effort. For instance, a boy if he tries hard to get score , he can not if his chart and periods do not support. But as you said, I agree as follows:For instance, if one takes up his decision to do or no to a work according to his own thought or by some one's advice, his current deeds are controlled .He may escape from doing a wrong deed as per the past Karma. When no vehicles were invented, if a man those days has the significations of 4,11 he will get a cart or similar to that. After the inventions of the Vehicles, one will get the bike or car etc.,. It means one could be influenced with the present available sources. Similarly, one will do his deeds according to his present situation and his mind set and effort. If he is a person with any past bitter experience in any event, business, when his similar bad time comes again, he will take his decision vary cautiously sothat the impact will be reduced , though not avoided fully. So he has the control. Similarly in the present life, one has good contacts with gurus, good astrologers, well wishers , even a person with bad characters is guided properly and does some good deeds. In those days, in a joint family where there will be a Head (very old experienced person) who will lead the total family members. Everyone has to act according to his advice only. There the percentage of failures, wrong deeds were greatly reduced. Though one of the family member who has the tendency to do bad events will be under control. But once that Head passes away, the total family is collapsed and splitted. Then as there is no guidance, they act act as per the destiny without any control and face the troubles accordingly.If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope. There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control? The above are my personal points only.Your valuable inputs are welcome, as you are all much experienced person.Thanks and REgardsAdith On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote: Dear Adith ji,I also wish to add some ideas for your doubt on Kamma. If a person had done any good deeds or bad deeds in his previous birth, and if he has not finished his Karma for rebirth, he may receive passport to the next birth. Sometimes he might have low marks in his last examination in his previous birth, but enough level for a pass, he may come back to the universe to complete his lost subject and for high marks to finish his journey of life. So everyone must understand this fact of completing his weak subjects and get the highest mark rate for a pass. This is a very simple interpretation of Kamma. If a man climbs to the third floor of a building, it is undeniable true that his arriving to third floor is a result of his past action (Kamma) that is, WALKING up the stairs. And having arrived there, it is impossible for him to reach out and touch the ground with his hand, or drive a car up and down there. Obviously this is because he has gone up to the third floor. Or, having arrived at the third floor, whether he is too exhausted to continue is also related to having walked up the stairs. His arrival there, the things he is able to do there and the situation he is likely to encounter, are all certainly related to the OLD KAMMA of having walked up the stairs. But exactly which action he will perform, his reactions to the situations which arise there, whether he will take a rest, walk on, or walk back down the stairs and out of that building, are all matters which he can decide for himself in that PRESENT moment, for which he will also reap the results. Even though the action of walking up the stairs may still be influencing him (for example, with his strength sapped he may be unable to function efficiently in any given situation), whether he decides to give in to that tiredness or try to overcome it, are all matters which he can decide for himself in the present moment. Therefore OLD KAMMA should be understood in its relation to the whole cause and effect process. In terms of ethical practice, to understand the cause and effect process is to be able to learn from Old Kamma, understanding the situation at hand, and to skillfully make a plan of action for improving and correcting the future. Kalyan TW <tw853 > @gro ups.comWed, 14 April, 2010 9:06:02 AM Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching Dear Adith ji,1. Everything in one's life may be said as predestined at the moment of birth by past karma for the possibility of cent percent accuracy in the astrological prediction which is not the case in practice. Because please note " it may be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects of his Karma. " 2. " If the present life is totally conditioned or wholly controlled by our past actions, then certainly Karma is tantamount to fatalism or determinism or predestination. If this were true, free will would be an absurdity. Life would be purely mechanistic, not much different from a machine. Such a fatalistic doctrine is not the Buddhist law of Karma…Karma does not necessarily mean past actions. It embraces both past and present deeds. Hence in one sense, we are the result of what we were; we will be the result of what we are… The inequality that exists among mankind is the result of our own past actions and our own present doings (esp viriya 'effort' and panna 'wisdom'). We ourselves are responsible for our own. " -Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw (The Theory of Karma)3. In the Upajjhatthana Sutta (AN 5.57), the Lord Buddha states: " I am the owner of my karma. I inherit my karma. I am born of my karma. I am related to my karma. I live supported by my karma. Whatever karma I create, whether good or evil, that I shall inherit. " Regards,TW @gro ups.com, " adith kasinath.g.k " <gkadithkasinath@ ...> wrote: >> Dear TW ji,> > Thanks for the valuable points by our Guruji.> > But I ever have teh following question in mind unanswered.> > When all is destined in one life, he can not be responsible for his deeds in > the present life.> For example, if one happens to be a bad person in all activities due to his> past bad deeds, he may not be in a position to do any good deeds in his> present life. In this case, in his next births also we can expect him to be > a bad human only. So how can one is expected to do any good deeds in his> birth?> > can you enlighten me on this?> > Regards> Adith> > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM, TW <tw853 wrote:> > >> >> > *Guruji KSK's Quotations on Karma, Destiny*> >> > Chances, luck or misfortune are governed by the law of Causation or Karma. > > God is neither partial or unjust, and everything happens according to one's> > action in the past birth.> >> > When we think we understand that the theory " Karma and Incarnation " alone > > can convince.--- what we have to enjoy is undoubtedly predestined. I cannot> > understand how the judgment of God can be, in any manner, modified or> > nullified by our efforts.---> > > > Everything is predestined. ---None can dodge fate.--- If one can change the> > event by one's will, then astrology has no place.> >> > Karma can be divided broadly into three kinds: Dhruda (fixed) Karma that > > one has committed an inexcusable mistake or crime in the previous birth,> > Dhruda - Adhruda (fixed/non-fixed) Karma that one would have committed an> > excusable mistake in the previous birth, and Adhruda (non-fixed) Karma that > > the crime committed may be negligible…The majority of people commit> > excusable mistakes called Dhruda – Adhruda Karma. Therefore Shanti will be> > done by them with or without their knowledge and they will not ultimately > > suffer… Just like one has no choice about his birth time, place and his> > parents, so also there is nothing left in one's hands. Everything is> > pre-destined. None can change it. Then only one can use this > > science…Astrology is a science. It needs further research and confirmation.> > There is no use for the word " Likely " . Everything is a certainty… It may> > be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of> > his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way> > directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects > > of his Karma.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > > > > > Dear Prasanna,> > >                      As per K.P.,and nobody/nothing> > can change human destiny/fate, once written by Brahma soon after one's> > birth...your quote of Nacchiketa is of a very rare and extra-ordinary > > case...> > >                      Guruji KSK had predicted the> > death of a retired senior retired Govt. Official who requested him> > to predit even the Tome of his death...which the worthy disbelieved > > totally,and in order to prov KSK wrong,made arrangements to sith in his lawn> > under a Garden Umbrella with a Thermos Flask full of coffee to wait out well> > past the predited thr Time of Death...but alas,from the corner of his eyes> > he was watching his dear grandson play on the verendah...and to his great > > horror he saw him walking baxckwards towards the garden and to a fall on the> > ground below and that too backwards... in a desperate attempt at preventing> > him from walking towards his certain fall,he made a dash for him,his foot > > got stuck in the crossbar of the easychair in which he was seated and he> > fell down,hitting his head on the ston steps with a resounding thud,and he> > died instantly,and to the surprise of all, the time was exactly what KSK had > > > predicted days in advance...!> > >                         The above has ben> > narrated in his original Books...and prove that Astroloby is a Vedanga and> > is born out of the Karma Theory...what is destined WILL take place...come> > what may... !> > >                         This also proves the > > accuracy of K.P. and Krishnamurthi Ayanamsa...> > >                         Another " live " proof can> > be had by anyone,if he so desires :> > >                         First have a Birth Chart > > correctly cast by a K.P. Astrologer after the necessary corrections( if> > needed),are made...> > >                         Then,pl. note the exact> > time at which one gets a cut or has a fall with blood oozing out of the > > wound...> > >                         To your great chagrin,> > the sublords of the IVth,VIIIth & XIIth cusps,will be the Dasa/Bhukti/ Anthra> > lords of the persons Dasa running at the time... ! > > >                         Pl. check and> > inform,this is a " love " proof...what more is required ?> > >                         With best wishes, > > >                         Yogesh Lajmi.> > >                      Â> > >                Â> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ wrote: > > >> > >> > > prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@> >> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com > > > Cc: ssagar86@> >> > > Received: Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 6:48 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Respected sagarji,> > > your views seem to be fatalistic. Human life is just a tiny part of this> > vast BRAMHANDA.So many factors effect human life that it is not possible to > > predict what will happen in future. Astrologers can only in some way study> > the trend or tendencies.With the gene therapy even diffective genes can be> > replaced, which instigates people to go for wrong action causing wrong > > result. It is said person doing PAPA will get his due result in this KALI> > ERA itself. Instances may be found where even Prarabdha was changed. Story> > of NACHIKETA is known to all. Story of SAVITRI is also known to all. It> > depends on the person who has been sufferring. In fact in KALI ERA people> > do not have patience or faith that mountains can be moved.Hence no serious > > effort is done to change the destiny. Hence with all due respect to you> > please give your opinion in this regard.> > > Â> > > Prasanna> > > Â> >> > > > > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 8:17 PM > > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > >> > > ASTROLOGER TELLS WHAT MAY HAPPEN, BUT GOD ONLY CAN TELL WHAT EXACTLY WILL > > HAPPEN.> > >> > > Naidu KP> > >> > > K. P. Naidu,> > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > > Nowroji Road,> > > Maharanipeta, > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > >> > >> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > @gro ups.com> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 12:03 AM> > >> > >> > >  > > >> > >> > > Dear Adith> > > MY first conference attend in Feb 1989 at Cuttack.> > > i have presented three papers and speak on one important subject called " > > Everything is predestined and no one can change or alter it , even the> > Creator lord Brahma " > > > We astrologers can predict the events what will happen, neither we can> > change or alter it. > > > I have quoted " yatha raja , tatha praja " likewise " yatha graha tatha> > phala " .> > > Almost all astrologer appreciated my speech, later Mr.Subramaniam asked> > me " ur speech truly marvelous, but can u answer for one doubt " can u run in> > a front of running vehicle by assuming that everything predestined " > > > my answer was " if my fate is predestined to met with accident i will run> > in front of a running bus, if my fate is not predestined for accident even> > though i run in front of a running bus , driver will try to rescue me and he > > will turn his vehicle which will kill some which has predestined is one> > thing on the other hand my mind will not permit me to run in front of> > running bus " .> > > All astrologers are only a reader what will happen in the future. > > > in fact i wont match guna kuta , i will match the girl and boy chart> > weather their marriage has predestined or not.> > > I use to predict few points of the girl/boy as per their charts.It> > happened too.> > > Regards> > > Sahhasra Saagara> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > >> > > Senthil athi_ram >> > > @gro ups.com > > > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:58:28 PM> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Adith,> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with > > their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an> > astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is> > no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. So what is > > the use for matching the charts? Actually you have to find firstly whether> > as per his destiny his Girl’s chart is available among the 10 charts are> > not? If yes, that is it else ask them to bring any other set of charts to > > find his Girl (written as per his destiny) that is all. I have written an> > article based on my past failure case (job offers) regarding “which> > company he will join?†in KP annual number 2010 you may refer it. > > >> > > Â> > >> > > Also during my study on Driving license one of the person who failed in> > the 1st road test asked me the following (refer Quiz-8). He was ready to> > attend ONLY ON TEST (no more test & the person was having urge etc.) which> > he should get PASS. Now you have to tell which date/time he should attend> > the test so that he will get pass on that day/time. You have to guarantee > > that he will get appointment on that date/time (there is a chance he can> > purposely get appointment for some other date/time or the date may be> > already booked by many candidate and full etc), the test should be conducted > > on that date/time (it should not be declared holiday or cancelled due to any> > reason etc) and also he should attend the test on that date/time without> > fail (not absent due to any reasons or there is a chance he can purposely > > not to attend test on that date/time etc) and he should get PASS.> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Are you ready to give all the above correct? Any one failure is> > sufficient to say that our prediction is WRONG.> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > > So what is our (astrologer’s) role? I personally believe that we are > > the tools through us some message is passed on the native/quarent that is> > it.> > >> > > Â> > > The above are my personal views and not to criticize you or anybody. > > > Â> > > GOOD LUCK!!> > > Â> > > D.Senthil> > > Â> > >> > >> > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > > wrote:> > >> > >> > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:49 AM> > >> > >> > >  > > >> > > Dear Sagar ji,> > >> > > I accept your points. . But if it is destined, whats the role of> > Astrologer in matching? Why should we match?> > > > > > Does any astrologer play role in fixing the match ? or helping to find> > the best match?> > >> > > I hope there must some logic behind in our old says..> > > > > > As per the Astrologers guidelines if anyone follows, the incidents can> > not be stopped but the impact can be reduced. Similarly, in a chart if he> > has a poor significations for a happy marital life, if he is marched to a> > better one, there wont be permanent separation but misunderstanding or> > temporary separation during the unfavorable period. > > > Pls give your views on the above.> > >> > > With Regards> > > Adith> > >> > >> > >> > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi> > > neither guna nor kuta will helpful in matching of boy-girl horoscope as > > it is predestined and he/she should get marry what has already destined in> > their charts.> > > i remember one girl chart in which i had predicted short marital life> > as well as i had predicted diseases of her husband by anlysing her chart.> > Later girl married and lead marital life for few years and her faced health > > problem resulted in his death.> >> > > both in hindu predictive as well as in kp for marital life some> > combination and significance has given.> > > Regards> > > Sahhasra Saagara > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > > > >> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > > Cc: Wyomesh wyomeshd >> > > Thu, 8 April, 2010 8:14:18 PM> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Wyomesh,> > >                       Yoni Guna has been taken> > care of in KPDP, for your information, under compatibility. ..! > > >                        With best wishes,> > >                       Yogesh Lajmi.> >> > >> > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, Wyomesh wyomeshd > wrote: > > >> > >> > >> > > Wyomesh wyomeshd >> > > Subject: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > >> > >> > > Received: Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 1:59 PM > > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > > Hello> > >> > > I would like to add here something... .> > > It is very important to see YONI GUNA. Suppose male YONI is GAU (cow) > > > and Female's Yoni is VYAGHRA ( LION)... Both are hard enemies. So, Even> > on matching perfect can not give satisfactory married life.> > >> > > So we should always look for traditional rules with KP. > > >> > > Thank you> > >> > > @gro ups.com, " kadavasalramani " <kadavasalramani@ > wrote: > > > >> > > > Dear Sri Adithj,> > > >> > > > KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of> > late Guruji, Sri KSK.> > > > It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified > > according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for matching> > the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. In> > this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple will > > lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this there is> > no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, Saturn> > Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes > > according to KP system.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > -> > > > adith kasinath.g.k> > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM> > > > KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear friends, > > > >> > > > Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed in> > the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.?> > > >> > > > Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom? > > > >> > > > I hope this is being given in some sw.> > > >> > > > I will be obliged to get these details> > > >> > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > Adith> > > >> > >> > >> > > Â> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php> > >> > > > > >> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 Dear Ms.SujataThis is only about the longevity of the Nellore boy you have given the details.Basic DataBoy,29-7-1977, 06:14AM,Nellore, 14N26,79E58, KPNA 23:27:14,Asc Cn 16:22:08The boy's Ju is posited in 11th closely conjuct with 11th lord Ve.But in stallar astrology star lord is stronger than the planet's posited strength.Jup is placed in Mars star and Mars is in 10th which is detrimental to 11th.Hence 11th cannot operate in Jup period.Again Jup has not gone as star to any planet.So it has to operate of its own ,thro Mars star.Mars owns 5 and10 placed in 10.Jup will enjoy 5 and 10 strongly than its posited place 11.Since 6 and 9 are occupied Jup dont have any say over those places.Certainly Jup dasa is not his dasa for extinct.You may count 13+16 and Sat is no way destroyer,hence another 19.In surface level Sat is in 1st cusp-good longevity.Jup is aspecting 8th-good longevity.Sat is aspecting 3rd-good longevity.So he enjoys full term of longevity.--- On Sat, 4/17/10, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote:sujata das <sujatadash1Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 10:06 AM Dear TWjiThank you so much for the prompt reply. I was hoping that she be financially independentbefore marriage. She would have cleared writing her papers in Oct. this year. Ju. would enter Pisces in Dec this year So she may get the job after marriage.I hope it will ba love marriage, as hinted by uThankyou once again.RegardsSujata--- On Fri, 16/4/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:TW <tw853 > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching@gro ups.comFriday, 16 April, 2010, 7:23 AM Dear Sujata ji, 1. Your concern of his 1CSL Ju+(11Bdk,6- 9)closely Conj Ve(11,4-11) is understandable. 2. However Ju+ is a very strong significator of houses 1 & 3 by cuspal sublordship without any planet in its stars. Ju is in star Ma(10,5-10), and sub Ke(9)with stl Me(1,3-12) & sgl Ju. So medium longivity is expected. 3. Her 7CSL Ve(11,3-8) is in star Mo(10,5) and sub Sa(7Bdk,11-12) . 4. Marriage matter would be unavoidable for her when transit Ju is passing Pisces while Sa is in Virgo. Good luck for her! (with 7CS signifying 5th & 5CSL 7th house) TW Basic Data Boy,29-7-1977, 06:14AM,Nellore, 14N26,79E58, KPNA 23:27:14,Asc Cn 16:22:08 Girl,13-06-1983, 11:00AM,New Delhi,28N36, 77E12,KPNA 23:31:48,Asc Pi 09:05:08 KPDK Matching total score 63.33%, Criterion no 10 58.33% on 15-04-2010 by KPAstro 3.5 @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote: > > Dear TWji > I am considering a boy for my daughter. KPDP score is 59%, KPDP 10 is more than 80% but I am concerned about his longivity. His lagna sublord is ju+ in badhaksthan in rapt conjunction with ve, badhaka lord. His ju dasa will start after 13 yrs. > Would u kindly give your views about his longivity ? > His dob is 29-7-77, pob is Nellore, tob is 6-14 am. > My daughters 7th csl is csl of 6, 8 and 1 > With many thanks in advance > Regards > Sujata > > --- On Wed, 14/4/10, TW <tw853 wrote: > > TW <tw853 > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > @gro ups.com > Wednesday, 14 April, 2010, 8:34 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > 1. Matching is not recommendable, if the KPDP criterion no 10 "WETHER THE PERIOD LORDS NOW OPERATING IN BOTH CHARTS NOW INDICATE DESIRABILITY OF MATCHING FOR MARRIAGE" is below 51 even though total score is high. > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 5535 > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 11184?threaded= 1 > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28308?threaded= 1 > > 2. In the cases of multi-marriage, the KPDP matching scores may not be clear indicators. > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28128?threaded= 1 > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28186?threaded= 1 > > 3. In the cases of complaints for divorce, the marriage would not break down, if the criterion no 10 score is high above 51 at that time. > > 4. Request of any member for KPDP calculation would be done by KPAstro 3.5 and posted in this forum. > > Regards, > > TW > > > > @gro ups.com, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friend. > > > > > > Yes it is not in any KP Books in any language. > > > KPDP is a priceless task of KP Kuppuganapathy ji. > > > > > > To read the whole article please Go to Files->Articles- >KPDP Doc > > > > > > or > > > > > > (KP & Astrology Year Book 1997, page 32-44; also in KP E-Zine March 2007(http://loger .com) incorporated in Shri > > > Raichur’s SW and KPAstro > > > > > > Kalyan > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Niranjan Sant <shreegauriassociat es01@> > > > @gro ups.com > > > Tue, 13 April, 2010 3:05:33 PM > > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > > > What is this KPDP? Can anybody explain in details? I never came accross while going through KP Books in Marathi. > > > > > > Sant Guruji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> > > > @gro ups.com > > > Mon, 12 April, 2010 2:11:02 PM > > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet > > > Kindly installKPDP software on the group files > > > Regard > > > Sujata > > > > > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, K. P. Naidu <konathalan@ . co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >K. P. Naidu <konathalan@ . co.in> > > > >Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >@gro ups.com > > > >Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 10:18 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear sri Adith Ji, > > > > > > > >KPDP rules are available in the files section of this group in Articles section. > > > > > > > >Thanks & Regards, > > > >Naidu KP > > > > > > > >K. P. Naidu, > > > >Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > > >Nowroji Road, > > > >Maharanipeta, > > > >VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > > >Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > > > > >--- On Wed, 7/4/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> > > > >>Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >>@gro ups.com > > > >>Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 3:34 PM > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>Dear Sri Adithj, > > > >> > > > >>KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of late Guruji, Sri KSK. > > > >>It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for matching the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. In this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple will lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this there is no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, Saturn Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes according to KP system. > > > >> > > > >>Regards, > > > >> > > > >>K.S.V.Ramani > > > >>- > > > >>>adith kasinath.g.k > > > >>>@gro ups.com > > > >>>Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM > > > >>> KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>Dear friends, > > > >>> > > > >>>Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed in the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.? > > > >>> > > > >>>Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom? > > > >>> > > > >>>I hope this is being given in some sw. > > > >>> > > > >>>I will be obliged to get these details > > > >>> > > > >>>Thanks and Regards > > > >>>Adith > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > >Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 All beings are the owners of their KammaHeirs of their KammaBorn of their KammaRelated to their KammaSupported by their kamma...Unfortunately some human beings are unable to understand this truth.It is also the Kamma of their own.The Law of Kamma, as one of Buddhism's central themes, requires only a modicum of learning,but also a good deal of Inner Reflection.Kalyanadith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath Sent: Sat, 17 April, 2010 5:38:12 PMRe: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching Dear Friend,The KPDP rules sources were given in the initial replies itself. pls check it.Even these rules are also to be practically experienced.The Karma dicussion is part of this only. If everything is destined, the role of Astrologers in following such rules in matching is of no use. So pls look into the cause of the discussion why karma is taken in this thread ! Hence. pls do not comment on others discussions if you do not understand or not interested. This is my humble suggestion.RegardsAdithOn Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:07 PM, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhama@ > wrote: Dear friends, with this head of subject ...that is kpdp rules in marriage matching...i couldnot find any of you given actual rules at all.. and all the time writing only some kamma thoeries.... please come back to astrology and produce rules to marriage matching as per kp...and how by seeing any charts of boy and girl instantly we can tell that these are born to couple together... coming back to your kamma theories.... please take your retreats first...do some years fo actual meditation ....then with practical expeirience only...you guys can have .after realisation of some final truth can discuss and teach other....not by mere referring some others works... thanking you, suniel 09297102711--- On Sat, 17/4/10, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching "adith kasinath.g.k" <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>Cc: @gro ups.com Saturday, 17 April, 2010, 10:29 AM Dear Adith, Could you please send me the charts where this rule has failed...because in actual practice it is in extremely rare cases that one among these combinations are found to exist...! With kind regards, Yogesh Lajmi.--- On Fri, 16/4/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching "Yogesh Lajmi" <yogeshlajmi@ >Received: Friday, 16 April, 2010, 3:42 PM Dear Yogesh ji,I agree with your points.But I am doubtful about the possibility of NO ACCIDENT in one's life time due to the said combination.We have to study a lot. I remeber I tried to apply to few cases, I failed. With RegardsAdith On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: Dear Senthil, If one was destined to suffer a bad injury in an accident,he would have forgotten to wear a helmet,or he would have suffered severe injuries,despite his wearing a helmet... that is how destiny operates...(Karma in action...). One can explain why one is lucky not to have a single accident in his entire life,only by K.P. Principles.. . If the Vimshottari Dasa period running is ruled by the s/lords of the cusps of IV,VIII & XII,one will surely meet with an accident... Whereas,if the setup of the sublords of the houses IV,VIII & XII are set up as follows : Venus-Saturn- Venus Venus-Merc-Venus Moon-Sun-Moon Moon-Mars-Moon Sat-Merc-Saturn such a Jatak will never suffer even a small scratch in his entire lifetime...! Also, a careful in-depth examination of the s/l of the Ascendant can reveal ones Destiny...Long/ Short Life,Rich/Poor, Healthy/Sickly and so on...as was decided by Bramha soon after one's Birth... And so on...Krishnamurthi Padhdhati, has so many wonderful possibilities. ..! ! An indepth study of K.P., patiently and carefully,will surely help dizcover these possibilities. .. With the very best wishes, Yogesh Lajmi. GOOD LUCK ! --- On Fri, 16/4/10, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: Senthil <athi_ram > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching@gro ups.com Received: Friday, 16 April, 2010, 12:58 AM Dear Adith, // If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope. There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control?// As per my view if the person has to meet with an accident in a particular moment but no death is indicated that is including DBA as well as transit don't signify/agree for death(badaka/ maraka etc) then some how he/she will escape by wearing helmet or without Helmet. I have explained few months back in this forum. During my advanced astrology study time (may be year 2000) one accident case chat was discussed in the class who didn’t die but went to coma stage. Similarly, suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. Due to some reason they may ignore or misguided by some other astrologer/somebody etc and finally they may not be going for the marriage with girl you have suggested as THE BEST MATCH.(Hope this may be happening for most Astrologers too.) So as an astrologer what are you controlling here? I believe that you are doing you own karma only (say astrologer work/duty) Hope you can understand it now and the above are my personal views only. GOOD LUCK!! D.Senthil --- On Wed, 4/14/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching@gro ups.com Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 7:25 PM Dear Suna ji,Thanks for your valuable explanation.So kind of you.You mean to say that one will be free to do according to the present sources available or the effort he himself takes to do it. I agree with this to a great extent. But if he is not destined astrologically, he may not succeed in his effort. For instance, a boy if he tries hard to get score , he can not if his chart and periods do not support. But as you said, I agree as follows:For instance, if one takes up his decision to do or no to a work according to his own thought or by some one's advice, his current deeds are controlled .He may escape from doing a wrong deed as per the past Karma. When no vehicles were invented, if a man those days has the significations of 4,11 he will get a cart or similar to that. After the inventions of the Vehicles, one will get the bike or car etc.,. It means one could be influenced with the present available sources. Similarly, one will do his deeds according to his present situation and his mind set and effort. If he is a person with any past bitter experience in any event, business, when his similar bad time comes again, he will take his decision vary cautiously sothat the impact will be reduced , though not avoided fully. So he has the control. Similarly in the present life, one has good contacts with gurus, good astrologers, well wishers , even a person with bad characters is guided properly and does some good deeds. In those days, in a joint family where there will be a Head (very old experienced person) who will lead the total family members. Everyone has to act according to his advice only. There the percentage of failures, wrong deeds were greatly reduced. Though one of the family member who has the tendency to do bad events will be under control. But once that Head passes away, the total family is collapsed and splitted. Then as there is no guidance, they act act as per the destiny without any control and face the troubles accordingly.If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope. There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control? The above are my personal points only.Your valuable inputs are welcome, as you are all much experienced person.Thanks and REgardsAdith On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote: Dear Adith ji,I also wish to add some ideas for your doubt on Kamma. If a person had done any good deeds or bad deeds in his previous birth, and if he has not finished his Karma for rebirth, he may receive passport to the next birth. Sometimes he might have low marks in his last examination in his previous birth, but enough level for a pass, he may come back to the universe to complete his lost subject and for high marks to finish his journey of life. So everyone must understand this fact of completing his weak subjects and get the highest mark rate for a pass. This is a very simple interpretation of Kamma. If a man climbs to the third floor of a building, it is undeniable true that his arriving to third floor is a result of his past action (Kamma) that is, WALKING up the stairs. And having arrived there, it is impossible for him to reach out and touch the ground with his hand, or drive a car up and down there. Obviously this is because he has gone up to the third floor. Or, having arrived at the third floor, whether he is too exhausted to continue is also related to having walked up the stairs. His arrival there, the things he is able to do there and the situation he is likely to encounter, are all certainly related to the OLD KAMMA of having walked up the stairs. But exactly which action he will perform, his reactions to the situations which arise there, whether he will take a rest, walk on, or walk back down the stairs and out of that building, are all matters which he can decide for himself in that PRESENT moment, for which he will also reap the results. Even though the action of walking up the stairs may still be influencing him (for example, with his strength sapped he may be unable to function efficiently in any given situation), whether he decides to give in to that tiredness or try to overcome it, are all matters which he can decide for himself in the present moment. Therefore OLD KAMMA should be understood in its relation to the whole cause and effect process. In terms of ethical practice, to understand the cause and effect process is to be able to learn from Old Kamma, understanding the situation at hand, and to skillfully make a plan of action for improving and correcting the future. Kalyan TW <tw853 > @gro ups.comWed, 14 April, 2010 9:06:02 AM Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching Dear Adith ji,1. Everything in one's life may be said as predestined at the moment of birth by past karma for the possibility of cent percent accuracy in the astrological prediction which is not the case in practice. Because please note "it may be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects of his Karma." 2. "If the present life is totally conditioned or wholly controlled by our past actions, then certainly Karma is tantamount to fatalism or determinism or predestination. If this were true, free will would be an absurdity. Life would be purely mechanistic, not much different from a machine. Such a fatalistic doctrine is not the Buddhist law of Karma…Karma does not necessarily mean past actions. It embraces both past and present deeds. Hence in one sense, we are the result of what we were; we will be the result of what we are… The inequality that exists among mankind is the result of our own past actions and our own present doings (esp viriya 'effort' and panna 'wisdom'). We ourselves are responsible for our own." -Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw (The Theory of Karma)3. In the Upajjhatthana Sutta (AN 5.57), the Lord Buddha states:"I am the owner of my karma. I inherit my karma. I am born of my karma. I am related to my karma. I live supported by my karma. Whatever karma I create, whether good or evil, that I shall inherit." Regards,TW @gro ups.com, "adith kasinath.g.k" <gkadithkasinath@ ...> wrote: >> Dear TW ji,> > Thanks for the valuable points by our Guruji.> > But I ever have teh following question in mind unanswered.> > When all is destined in one life, he can not be responsible for his deeds in > the present life.> For example, if one happens to be a bad person in all activities due to his> past bad deeds, he may not be in a position to do any good deeds in his> present life. In this case, in his next births also we can expect him to be > a bad human only. So how can one is expected to do any good deeds in his> birth?> > can you enlighten me on this?> > Regards> Adith> > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM, TW <tw853 wrote:> > >> >> > *Guruji KSK's Quotations on Karma, Destiny*> >> > Chances, luck or misfortune are governed by the law of Causation or Karma. > > God is neither partial or unjust, and everything happens according to one's> > action in the past birth.> >> > When we think we understand that the theory "Karma and Incarnation" alone > > can convince.--- what we have to enjoy is undoubtedly predestined. I cannot> > understand how the judgment of God can be, in any manner, modified or> > nullified by our efforts.---> > > > Everything is predestined. ---None can dodge fate.--- If one can change the> > event by one's will, then astrology has no place.> >> > Karma can be divided broadly into three kinds: Dhruda (fixed) Karma that > > one has committed an inexcusable mistake or crime in the previous birth,> > Dhruda - Adhruda (fixed/non-fixed) Karma that one would have committed an> > excusable mistake in the previous birth, and Adhruda (non-fixed) Karma that > > the crime committed may be negligible…The majority of people commit> > excusable mistakes called Dhruda – Adhruda Karma. Therefore Shanti will be> > done by them with or without their knowledge and they will not ultimately > > suffer… Just like one has no choice about his birth time, place and his> > parents, so also there is nothing left in one's hands. Everything is> > pre-destined. None can change it. Then only one can use this > > science…Astrology is a science. It needs further research and confirmation.> > There is no use for the word "Likely". Everything is a certainty… It may> > be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of> > his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way> > directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects > > of his Karma.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > > > > > Dear Prasanna,> > >                      As per K.P.,and nobody/nothing> > can change human destiny/fate, once written by Brahma soon after one's> > birth...your quote of Nacchiketa is of a very rare and extra-ordinary > > case...> > >                      Guruji KSK had predicted the> > death of a retired senior retired Govt. Official who requested him> > to predit even the Tome of his death...which the worthy disbelieved > > totally,and in order to prov KSK wrong,made arrangements to sith in his lawn> > under a Garden Umbrella with a Thermos Flask full of coffee to wait out well> > past the predited thr Time of Death...but alas,from the corner of his eyes> > he was watching his dear grandson play on the verendah...and to his great > > horror he saw him walking baxckwards towards the garden and to a fall on the> > ground below and that too backwards... in a desperate attempt at preventing> > him from walking towards his certain fall,he made a dash for him,his foot > > got stuck in the crossbar of the easychair in which he was seated and he> > fell down,hitting his head on the ston steps with a resounding thud,and he> > died instantly,and to the surprise of all, the time was exactly what KSK had > > > predicted days in advance...!> > >                         The above has ben> > narrated in his original Books...and prove that Astroloby is a Vedanga and> > is born out of the Karma Theory...what is destined WILL take place...come> > what may... !> > >                         This also proves the > > accuracy of K.P. and Krishnamurthi Ayanamsa...> > >                         Another "live" proof can> > be had by anyone,if he so desires :> > >                         First have a Birth Chart > > correctly cast by a K.P. Astrologer after the necessary corrections( if> > needed),are made...> > >                         Then,pl. note the exact> > time at which one gets a cut or has a fall with blood oozing out of the > > wound...> > >                         To your great chagrin,> > the sublords of the IVth,VIIIth & XIIth cusps,will be the Dasa/Bhukti/ Anthra> > lords of the persons Dasa running at the time... ! > > >                         Pl. check and> > inform,this is a "love" proof...what more is required ?> > >                         With best wishes, > > >                         Yogesh Lajmi.> > >                      Â> > >                Â> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ wrote: > > >> > >> > > prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@> >> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com > > > Cc: ssagar86@> >> > > Received: Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 6:48 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Respected sagarji,> > > your views seem to be fatalistic. Human life is just a tiny part of this> > vast BRAMHANDA.So many factors effect human life that it is not possible to > > predict what will happen in future. Astrologers can only in some way study> > the trend or tendencies.With the gene therapy even diffective genes can be> > replaced, which instigates people to go for wrong action causing wrong > > result. It is said person doing PAPA will get his due result in this KALI> > ERA itself. Instances may be found where even Prarabdha was changed. Story> > of NACHIKETA is known to all. Story of SAVITRI is also known to all. It> > depends on the person who has been sufferring. In fact in KALI ERA people> > do not have patience or faith that mountains can be moved.Hence no serious > > effort is done to change the destiny. Hence with all due respect to you> > please give your opinion in this regard.> > > Â> > > Prasanna> > > Â> >> > > > > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 8:17 PM > > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > >> > > ASTROLOGER TELLS WHAT MAY HAPPEN, BUT GOD ONLY CAN TELL WHAT EXACTLY WILL > > HAPPEN.> > >> > > Naidu KP> > >> > > K. P. Naidu,> > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > > Nowroji Road,> > > Maharanipeta, > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > >> > >> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > @gro ups.com> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 12:03 AM> > >> > >> > >  > > >> > >> > > Dear Adith> > > MY first conference attend in Feb 1989 at Cuttack.> > > i have presented three papers and speak on one important subject called " > > Everything is predestined and no one can change or alter it , even the> > Creator lord Brahma"> > > We astrologers can predict the events what will happen, neither we can> > change or alter it. > > > I have quoted " yatha raja , tatha praja" likewise "yatha graha tatha> > phala".> > > Almost all astrologer appreciated my speech, later Mr.Subramaniam asked> > me " ur speech truly marvelous, but can u answer for one doubt" can u run in> > a front of running vehicle by assuming that everything predestined" > > > my answer was " if my fate is predestined to met with accident i will run> > in front of a running bus, if my fate is not predestined for accident even> > though i run in front of a running bus , driver will try to rescue me and he > > will turn his vehicle which will kill some which has predestined is one> > thing on the other hand my mind will not permit me to run in front of> > running bus".> > > All astrologers are only a reader what will happen in the future. > > > in fact i wont match guna kuta , i will match the girl and boy chart> > weather their marriage has predestined or not.> > > I use to predict few points of the girl/boy as per their charts.It> > happened too.> > > Regards> > > Sahhasra Saagara> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > >> > > Senthil athi_ram >> > > @gro ups.com > > > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:58:28 PM> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Adith,> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with > > their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an> > astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is> > no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. So what is > > the use for matching the charts? Actually you have to find firstly whether> > as per his destiny his Girl’s chart is available among the 10 charts are> > not? If yes, that is it else ask them to bring any other set of charts to > > find his Girl (written as per his destiny) that is all. I have written an> > article based on my past failure case (job offers) regarding “which> > company he will join?†in KP annual number 2010 you may refer it. > > >> > > Â> > >> > > Also during my study on Driving license one of the person who failed in> > the 1st road test asked me the following (refer Quiz-8). He was ready to> > attend ONLY ON TEST (no more test & the person was having urge etc.) which> > he should get PASS. Now you have to tell which date/time he should attend> > the test so that he will get pass on that day/time. You have to guarantee > > that he will get appointment on that date/time (there is a chance he can> > purposely get appointment for some other date/time or the date may be> > already booked by many candidate and full etc), the test should be conducted > > on that date/time (it should not be declared holiday or cancelled due to any> > reason etc) and also he should attend the test on that date/time without> > fail (not absent due to any reasons or there is a chance he can purposely > > not to attend test on that date/time etc) and he should get PASS.> > >> > > Â> > >> > > Are you ready to give all the above correct? Any one failure is> > sufficient to say that our prediction is WRONG.> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > > So what is our (astrologer’s) role? I personally believe that we are > > the tools through us some message is passed on the native/quarent that is> > it.> > >> > > Â> > > The above are my personal views and not to criticize you or anybody. > > > Â> > > GOOD LUCK!!> > > Â> > > D.Senthil> > > Â> > >> > >> > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > > wrote:> > >> > >> > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:49 AM> > >> > >> > >  > > >> > > Dear Sagar ji,> > >> > > I accept your points. . But if it is destined, whats the role of> > Astrologer in matching? Why should we match?> > > > > > Does any astrologer play role in fixing the match ? or helping to find> > the best match?> > >> > > I hope there must some logic behind in our old says..> > > > > > As per the Astrologers guidelines if anyone follows, the incidents can> > not be stopped but the impact can be reduced. Similarly, in a chart if he> > has a poor significations for a happy marital life, if he is marched to a> > better one, there wont be permanent separation but misunderstanding or> > temporary separation during the unfavorable period. > > > Pls give your views on the above.> > >> > > With Regards> > > Adith> > >> > >> > >> > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi> > > neither guna nor kuta will helpful in matching of boy-girl horoscope as > > it is predestined and he/she should get marry what has already destined in> > their charts.> > > i remember one girl chart in which i had predicted short marital life> > as well as i had predicted diseases of her husband by anlysing her chart.> > Later girl married and lead marital life for few years and her faced health > > problem resulted in his death.> >> > > both in hindu predictive as well as in kp for marital life some> > combination and significance has given.> > > Regards> > > Sahhasra Saagara > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > > > >> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > > Cc: Wyomesh wyomeshd >> > > Thu, 8 April, 2010 8:14:18 PM> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Wyomesh,> > >                       Yoni Guna has been taken> > care of in KPDP, for your information, under compatibility. ..! > > >                        With best wishes,> > >                       Yogesh Lajmi.> >> > >> > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, Wyomesh wyomeshd > wrote: > > >> > >> > >> > > Wyomesh wyomeshd >> > > Subject: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > >> > >> > > Received: Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 1:59 PM > > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > > Hello> > >> > > I would like to add here something... .> > > It is very important to see YONI GUNA. Suppose male YONI is GAU (cow) > > > and Female's Yoni is VYAGHRA ( LION)... Both are hard enemies. So, Even> > on matching perfect can not give satisfactory married life.> > >> > > So we should always look for traditional rules with KP. > > >> > > Thank you> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "kadavasalramani" <kadavasalramani@ > wrote: > > > >> > > > Dear Sri Adithj,> > > >> > > > KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of> > late Guruji, Sri KSK.> > > > It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified > > according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for matching> > the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. In> > this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple will > > lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this there is> > no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, Saturn> > Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes > > according to KP system.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > -> > > > adith kasinath.g.k> > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM> > > > KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear friends, > > > >> > > > Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed in> > the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.?> > > >> > > > Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom? > > > >> > > > I hope this is being given in some sw.> > > >> > > > I will be obliged to get these details> > > >> > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > Adith> > > >> > >> > >> > > Â> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php> > >> > > > > >> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 We are the result of what we were, and we will be the result of what we are. Our present actions allows us to influence our future. The Buddha pointed out that if everything is determined, then there would be no free will and no moral or spiritual life; we would merely be the slaves of our past. One who understands the workings of karma is given consolation, hope, self reliance and moral courage. By understanding karma, we can use it to our tremendous advantage. It validates our effort, kindles our enthusiasm, makes us ever kind, tolerant and considerate. This understanding naturally prompts us to refrain from evil and to do good. In the Cula-kammavibhanga Sutta (MN 135), the Buddha stated: " ... eings are owners of kammas, heirs of kammas, they have kammas as their progenitor, kammas as their kin, kammas as their homing-place. It is kammas that differentiate beings according to inferiority and superiority. " " So ... the way that leads to short life [that is, killing others] makes people [oneself] short-lived [in ones next life], the way that leads to long life makes people long-lived; the way that leads to sickness makes people sick, the way that leads to health makes people healthy; the way that leads to ugliness makes people ugly, the way that leads to beauty makes people beautiful; the way that leads to insignificance makes people insignificant, the way that leads to influence makes people influential; the way that leads to poverty makes people poor, the way that leads to riches makes people rich; the way that leads to low birth makes people low-born, the way that leads to high birth makes people high-born; the way that leads to stupidity makes people stupid, the way that leads to wisdom makes people wise.... " http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.135.nymo.html http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.135.than.html , Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote: > > > > All beings are the owners of their Kamma > Heirs of their Kamma > Born of their Kamma > Related to their Kamma > Supported by their kamma... > > Unfortunately some human beings are unable to understand this truth. > It is also the Kamma of their own. > > The Law of Kamma, as one of Buddhism's central themes, requires only a modicum of learning, > but also a good deal of Inner Reflection. > > Kalyan > > > > > ________________________________ > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath > > Sat, 17 April, 2010 5:38:12 PM > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > Dear Friend, > The KPDP rules sources were given in the initial replies itself. pls check it. > Even these rules are also to be practically experienced. > > The Karma dicussion is part of this only. If everything is destined, the role of Astrologers in following such rules in matching is of no use. So pls look into the cause of the discussion why karma is taken in this thread ! > > Hence. pls do not comment on others discussions if you do not understand or not interested. This is my humble suggestion. > > Regards > Adith > > > On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:07 PM, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhama@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >Dear friends, > > > >with this head of subject ...that is kpdp rules in marriage matching...i couldnot find any of you given actual rules at all.. and all the time writing only some kamma thoeries.... > > > >please come back to astrology and produce rules to marriage matching as per kp...and how by seeing any charts of boy and girl instantly we can tell that these are born to couple together... > > > >coming back to your kamma theories.... please take your retreats first...do some years fo actual meditation ....then with practical expeirience only...you guys can have .after realisation of some final truth can discuss and teach other....not by mere referring some others works... > > > >thanking you, > >suniel > >09297102711 > > > > > >--- On Sat, 17/4/10, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > > > > > >>Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > > >> > >>Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >> " adith kasinath.g.k " <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > >>Cc: @gro ups.com > >>>>Saturday, 17 April, 2010, 10:29 AM > >> > >> > >> > >>Dear Adith, > >> Could you please send me the charts where this rule has failed...because in actual practice it is in extremely rare cases that one among these combinations are found to exist...! > >> With kind regards, > >> Yogesh Lajmi. > >> > >>--- On Fri, 16/4/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >>>adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > >>>Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >>>>>> " Yogesh Lajmi " <yogeshlajmi@ > > >>>Received: Friday, 16 April, 2010, 3:42 PM > >>> > >>> > >>>Dear Yogesh ji, > >>> > >>>I agree with your points. > >>> > >>>But I am doubtful about the possibility of NO ACCIDENT in one's life time due to the said combination. > >>>We have to study a lot. I remeber I tried to apply to few cases, I failed. > >>> > >>>With Regards > >>>Adith > >>> > >>> > >>>On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > >>> > >>>Dear Senthil, > >>>> If one was destined to suffer a bad injury in an accident,he would have forgotten to wear a helmet,or he would have suffered severe injuries,despite his wearing a helmet... that is how destiny operates...(Karma in action...). > >>>> > >>>> One can explain why one is lucky not to have a single accident in his entire life,only by K.P. Principles.. . > >>>> > >>>> If the Vimshottari Dasa period running is ruled by the s/lords of the cusps of IV,VIII & XII,one will surely meet with an accident... > >>>> > >>>> Whereas,if the setup of the sublords of the houses IV,VIII & XII are set up as follows : > >>>> Venus-Saturn- Venus > >>>> Venus-Merc-Venus > >>>> Moon-Sun-Moon > >>>> Moon-Mars-Moon > >>>> Sat-Merc-Saturn > >>>> such a Jatak will never suffer even a small scratch in his entire lifetime...! > >>>> > >>>> Also, a careful in-depth examination of the s/l of the Ascendant can reveal ones Destiny...Long/ Short Life,Rich/Poor, Healthy/Sickly and so on...as was decided by Bramha soon after one's Birth... > >>>> > >>>> And so on...Krishnamurthi Padhdhati, has so many wonderful possibilities. ..! ! > >>>> > >>>> An indepth study of K.P., patiently and carefully,will surely help dizcover these possibilities. .. > >>>> > >>>> With the very best wishes, > >>>> Yogesh Lajmi. > >>>> GOOD LUCK ! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>--- On Fri, 16/4/10, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Senthil <athi_ram > > >>>>> > >>>>>Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >>>>>@gro ups.com > >>>>> > >>>>>Received: Friday, 16 April, 2010, 12:58 AM > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Dear Adith, > >>>>> > >>>>>// > >>>>>If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope. There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. > >>>>> > >>>>>Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control? > >>>>>// > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>As per my view if the person has to meet with an accident in a particular moment but no death is indicated that is including DBA as well as transit don't signify/agree for death(badaka/ maraka etc) then some how he/she will escape by wearing helmet or without Helmet. I have explained few months back in this forum. During my advanced astrology study time (may be year 2000) one accident case chat was discussed in the class who didn’t die but went to coma stage. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Similarly, suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. Due to some reason they may ignore or misguided by some other astrologer/somebody etc and finally they may not be going for the marriage with girl you have suggested as THE BEST MATCH.(Hope this may be happening for most Astrologers too.) > >>>>> > >>>>>So as an astrologer what are you controlling here? I believe that you are doing you own karma only (say astrologer work/duty) > >>>>> > >>>>>Hope you can understand it now and the above are my personal views only. > >>>>> > >>>>>GOOD LUCK!! > >>>>> > >>>>>D.Senthil > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>--- On Wed, 4/14/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > >>>>>>Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >>>>>>@gro ups.com > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 7:25 PM > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Dear Suna ji, > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Thanks for your valuable explanation. > >>>>>>So kind of you. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>You mean to say that one will be free to do according to the present sources available or the effort he himself takes to do it. I agree with this to a great extent. But if he is not destined astrologically, he may not succeed in his effort. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>For instance, a boy if he tries hard to get score , he can not if his chart and periods do not support. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>But as you said, I agree as follows: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>For instance, if one takes up his decision to do or no to a work according to his own thought or by some one's advice, his current deeds are controlled .He may escape from doing a wrong deed as per the past Karma. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>When no vehicles were invented, if a man those days has the significations of 4,11 he will get a cart or similar to that. After the inventions of the Vehicles, one will get the bike or car etc.,. It means one could be influenced with the present > >>>>>> available sources. Similarly, one will do his deeds according to his present situation and his mind set and effort. If he is a person with any past bitter experience in any event, business, when his similar bad time comes again, he will take his decision vary cautiously sothat the impact will be reduced , though not avoided fully. So he has the control. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Similarly in the present life, one has good contacts with gurus, good astrologers, well wishers , even a person with bad characters is guided properly and does some good deeds. > >>>>>>In those days, in a joint family where there will be a Head (very old experienced person) who will lead the total family members. Everyone has to act according to his advice only. There the percentage of failures, wrong deeds were greatly reduced. Though one of the family member who has the tendency to do bad events will be under control. But once that Head passes away, the total family is collapsed and splitted. Then > >>>>>> as there is no guidance, they act act as per the destiny without any control and face the troubles accordingly. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope. > >>>>>>>>>>>>There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control? > >>>>>> > >>>>>>The above are my personal points only. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Your valuable inputs are welcome, as you are all much experienced person. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Thanks and REgards > >>>>>>Adith > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>Dear Adith ji, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>I also wish to add some ideas for your doubt on Kamma. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>If a person had done any good deeds or bad deeds in his previous birth, and if he has not finished his Karma for rebirth, he may receive passport to the next birth. Sometimes he might have low marks in his last examination in his previous birth, but enough level for a pass, he may come back to the universe to complete his lost subject and for high marks to finish his journey of life. So everyone must understand this fact of completing his weak subjects and get the highest mark rate for a pass. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>This is a very simple interpretation of Kamma. > >> > >> > >>If a man climbs to the third floor of a building, it is undeniable true that his arriving to third floor is a result of his past action (Kamma) that is, WALKING up the stairs. And having arrived there, it is impossible for him to reach out and touch the ground with his hand, or drive a car up and down there. Obviously this is because he has gone up to the third floor. Or, having arrived at the third floor, whether he is too exhausted to continue is also related to having walked up the stairs. His arrival there, the things he is able to do there and the situation he is likely to encounter, are all certainly related to the OLD KAMMA of having walked up the stairs. But exactly which action he will perform, his reactions to the situations which arise there, whether he will take a rest, walk on, or walk back down the stairs and out of that building, are all matters which he can decide for himself in > >> that PRESENT moment, for which he will also reap the results. Even though the action of walking up the stairs may still be influencing him (for example, with his strength sapped he may be unable to function efficiently in any given situation), whether he decides to give in to that tiredness or try to overcome it, are all matters which he can decide for himself in the present moment. > >> > >>Therefore OLD KAMMA should be understood in its relation to the whole cause and effect process. In terms of ethical practice, to understand the cause and effect process is to be able to learn from Old Kamma, understanding the situation at hand, and to skillfully make a plan of action for improving and correcting the future. > >> > >>Kalyan > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ > TW <tw853 > > >> > >> > >>@gro ups.com > >>Wed, 14 April, 2010 9:06:02 AM > >> Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >> > >> > >>Dear Adith ji, > >>1. Everything in one's life may be said as predestined at the moment of birth by past karma for the possibility of cent percent accuracy in the astrological prediction which is not the case in practice. Because please note " it may be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects of his Karma. " > >>>>2. " If the present life is totally conditioned or wholly controlled by our past actions, then certainly Karma is tantamount to fatalism or determinism or predestination. If this were true, free will would be an absurdity. Life would be purely mechanistic, not much different from a machine. Such a fatalistic doctrine is not the Buddhist law of Karma…Karma does not necessarily mean past actions. It embraces both past and present deeds. Hence in one sense, we are > >> the result of what we were; we will be the result of what we are… The inequality that exists among mankind is the result of our own past actions and our own present doings (esp viriya 'effort' and panna 'wisdom'). We ourselves are responsible for our own. " > >>>>-Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw (The Theory of Karma) > >>3. In the Upajjhatthana Sutta (AN 5.57), the Lord Buddha states: > >> " I am the owner of my karma. I inherit my karma. I am born of my karma. I am related to my karma. I live supported by my karma. Whatever karma I create, whether good or evil, that I shall inherit. " > >>>>Regards, > >>TW > >> > >> > >>@gro ups.com, " adith kasinath.g.k " <gkadithkasinath@ ....> wrote: > >>>>> > >>> Dear TW ji, > >>> > >>> Thanks for the valuable points by our Guruji. > >>> > >>> But I ever have teh following question in mind unanswered. > >>> > >>> When all is destined in one life, he can not be responsible for his deeds in > >>>>> the present life. > >>> For example, if one happens to be a bad person in all activities due to his > >>> past bad deeds, he may not be in a position to do any good deeds in his > >>> present life. In this case, in his next births also we can expect him to be > >>>>> a bad human only. So how can one is expected to do any good deeds in his > >>> birth? > >>> > >>> can you enlighten me on this? > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> Adith > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, Apr > >> 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM, TW <tw853@> wrote: > >>> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > *Guruji KSK's Quotations on Karma, Destiny* > >>> > > >>> > Chances, luck or misfortune are governed by the law of Causation or Karma. > >>>>> > God is neither partial or unjust, and everything happens according to one's > >>> > action in the past birth. > >>> > > >>> > When we think we understand that the theory " Karma and Incarnation " alone > >>>>> > can convince.--- what we have to enjoy is undoubtedly predestined. I cannot > >>> > understand how the judgment of God can be, in any manner, modified or > >>> > nullified by our efforts.--- > >>> > > >>>>> > Everything is predestined. ---None can dodge fate.--- If one can change the > >>> > event by one's will, then astrology has no place. > >>> > > >>> > Karma can be divided broadly into three kinds: Dhruda (fixed) Karma that > >>>>> > one > >> has committed an inexcusable mistake or crime in the previous birth, > >>> > Dhruda - Adhruda (fixed/non-fixed) Karma that one would have committed an > >>> > excusable mistake in the previous birth, and Adhruda (non-fixed) Karma that > >>>>> > the crime committed may be negligible…The majority of people commit > >>> > excusable mistakes called Dhruda †" Adhruda Karma. Therefore Shanti will be > >>> > done by them with or without their knowledge and they will not ultimately > >>>>> > suffer… Just like one has no choice about his birth time, place and his > >>> > parents, so also there is nothing left in one's hands. Everything is > >>> > pre-destined. None can change it. Then only one can use this > >>>>> > science…Astrology is a science. It needs further research and confirmation. > >>> > There is no use for the word " Likely " . Everything is a certainty… It may > >>> > be said, more as a > >> compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of > >>> > his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way > >>> > directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects > >>>>> > of his Karma. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > >>> > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > >>> > > > >>>>> > > Dear Prasanna, > >>> > >                      As per K.P.,and nobody/nothing > >>> > can change human destiny/fate, once written by Brahma soon after one's > >>> > birth...your quote of Nacchiketa is of a very rare and extra-ordinary > >>>>> > case... > >>> > >                      Guruji KSK had predicted the > >>> > death of a retired senior retired Govt. Official who requested him > >>> > to predit even the Tome of his death...which the worthy disbelieved > >>>>> > totally,and in order to prov KSK wrong,made arrangements to sith in his lawn > >>> > under a Garden Umbrella with a > >> Thermos Flask full of coffee to wait out well > >>> > past the predited thr Time of Death...but alas,from the corner of his eyes > >>> > he was watching his dear grandson play on the verendah...and to his great > >>>>> > horror he saw him walking baxckwards towards the garden and to a fall on the > >>> > ground below and that too backwards... in a desperate attempt at preventing > >>> > him from walking towards his certain fall,he made a dash for him,his foot > >>>>> > got stuck in the crossbar of the easychair in which he was seated and he > >>> > fell down,hitting his head on the ston steps with a resounding thud,and he > >>> > died instantly,and to the surprise of all, the time was exactly what KSK had > >>>>> > > predicted days in advance...! > >>> > >                         The above has ben > >>> > narrated in his original Books...and prove > >> that Astroloby is a Vedanga and > >>> > is born out of the Karma Theory...what is destined WILL take place...come > >>> > what may... ! > >>> > >                         This also proves the > >>>>> > accuracy of K.P. and Krishnamurthi Ayanamsa... > >>> > >                         Another " live " proof can > >>> > be had by anyone,if he so desires : > >>> > >                         First have a Birth Chart > >>>>> > correctly cast by a K.P. Astrologer after the necessary corrections( if > >>> > needed),are made... > >>> > >                         Then,pl. note the exact > >>> > time at which one gets a cut or has a fall with blood oozing out of the > >>>>> > wound... > >>> > >     > >>                     To your great chagrin, > >>> > the sublords of the IVth,VIIIth & XIIth cusps,will be the Dasa/Bhukti/ Anthra > >>> > lords of the persons Dasa running at the time... ! > >>>>> > >                         Pl. check and > >>> > inform,this is a " love " proof...what more is required ? > >>> > >                         With best wishes, > >>>>> > >                         Yogesh Lajmi. > >>> > >                       > >>> > >                 > >>> > > > >>> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ wrote: > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > prasanna acharya > >> prasanna_ppl@ > >>> > > >>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >>> > > @gro ups.com > >> > >>> > > Cc: ssagar86@ > >>> > > >>> > > Received: Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 6:48 PM > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Respected sagarji, > >>> > > your views seem to be fatalistic. Human life is just a tiny part of this > >>> > vast BRAMHANDA.So many factors effect human life that it is not possible to > >>>>> > predict what will happen in future. Astrologers can only in some way study > >>> > the trend or tendencies.With the gene therapy even diffective genes can be > >>> > replaced, which instigates people to go for wrong action causing wrong > >>>>> > result. It is said person doing PAPA will get his due result in this KALI > >>> > ERA itself. Instances may be found where even Prarabdha was changed. > >> Story > >>> > of NACHIKETA is known to all. Story of SAVITRI is also known to all. It > >>> > depends on the person who has been sufferring. In fact in KALI ERA people > >>> > do not have patience or faith that mountains can be moved.Hence no serious > >>>>> > effort is done to change the destiny. Hence with all due respect to you > >>> > please give your opinion in this regard. > >>> > >  > >>> > > Prasanna > >>> > >  > >>> > > >>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> > >>>>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >>> > > @gro ups.com > >>> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 8:17 PM > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Dear Friends, > >>> > > > >>> > > ASTROLOGER TELLS WHAT MAY HAPPEN, BUT GOD ONLY CAN TELL WHAT EXACTLY WILL > >>>>> > HAPPEN. > >>> > > > >>> > > Naidu KP > >>> > > > >>> > > K. P. Naidu, > >>> > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > >>> > > Nowroji Road, > >>> > > Maharanipeta, > >>>>> > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > >>> > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > >>> > > > >>> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > >>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >>>>> > > @gro ups.com > >>> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 12:03 AM > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Dear Adith > >>> > > MY first conference attend in Feb 1989 at Cuttack. > >>> > > i have presented three papers and speak on one important subject called " > >>>>> > Everything is predestined and no one can change or alter it , even the > >>> > Creator lord Brahma " > >>> > > We astrologers can predict the events what will happen, neither we can > >>> > change or alter it. > >>>>> > > I have quoted " yatha raja , tatha praja " likewise " yatha graha tatha > >>> > phala " . > >>> > > Almost > >> all astrologer appreciated my speech, later Mr.Subramaniam asked > >>> > me " ur speech truly marvelous, but can u answer for one doubt " can u run in > >>> > a front of running vehicle by assuming that everything predestined " > >>>>> > > my answer was " if my fate is predestined to met with accident i will run > >>> > in front of a running bus, if my fate is not predestined for accident even > >>> > though i run in front of a running bus , driver will try to rescue me and he > >>>>> > will turn his vehicle which will kill some which has predestined is one > >>> > thing on the other hand my mind will not permit me to run in front of > >>> > running bus " . > >>> > > All astrologers are only a reader what will happen in the future. > >>>>> > > in fact i wont match guna kuta , i will match the girl and boy chart > >>> > weather their marriage has predestined or not. > >>> > > I use to predict > >> few points of the girl/boy as per their charts.It > >>> > happened too. > >>> > > Regards > >>> > > Sahhasra Saagara > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Senthil athi_ram > > >>> > > @gro ups.com > >>>>> > > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:58:28 PM > >>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Dear Adith, > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>> > > > >>> > > Suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with > >>>>> > their > >> son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an > >>> > astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is > >>> > no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. So what is > >>>>> > the use for matching the charts? Actually you have to find firstly whether > >>> > as per his destiny his Girl’s chart is available among the 10 charts are > >>> > not? If yes, that is it else ask them to bring any other set of charts to > >>>>> > find his Girl (written as per his destiny) that is all. I have written an > >>> > article based on my past failure case (job offers) regarding  " which > >>> > company he will join?†in KP annual number 2010 you may refer it. > >>>>> > > > >>> > >  > >>> > > > >>> > > Also during my study on Driving license one of the person who failed in > >>> > the 1st road test asked me the following > >> (refer Quiz-8). He was ready to > >>> > attend ONLY ON TEST (no more test & the person was having urge etc.) which > >>> > he should get PASS. Now you have to tell which date/time he should attend > >>> > the test so that he will get pass on that day/time. You have to guarantee > >>>>> > that he will get appointment on that date/time (there is a chance he can > >>> > purposely get appointment for some other date/time or the date may be > >>> > already booked by many candidate and full etc), the test should be conducted > >>>>> > on that date/time (it should not be declared holiday or cancelled due to any > >>> > reason etc) and also he should attend the test on that date/time without > >>> > fail (not absent due to any reasons or there is a chance he can purposely > >>>>> > not to attend test on that date/time etc) and he should get PASS. > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>> > > > >>> > >> > > Are you ready to give all the above correct? Any one failure is > >>> > sufficient to say that our prediction is WRONG. > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>> > > > >>> > > So what is our (astrologer’s) role? I personally believe that we are > >>>>> > the tools through us some message is passed on the native/quarent that is > >>> > it. > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>> > > The above are my personal views and not to criticize you or anybody. > >>>>> > >  > >>> > > GOOD LUCK!! > >>> > >  > >>> > > D.Senthil > >>> > >  > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > >>>>> > wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > >>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >>>>> > > @gro ups.com > >>> > > Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:49 AM > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>>>> > > > >>> > > Dear Sagar ji, > >>> > > > >>> > > I accept your points. . But if it is destined, whats the role of > >>> > Astrologer in matching? Why should we match? > >>> > > > >>>>> > > Does any astrologer play role in fixing the match ? or helping to find > >>> > the best match? > >>> > > > >>> > > I hope there must some logic behind in our old says.. > >>> > > > >>>>> > > As per the Astrologers guidelines if anyone follows, the incidents can > >>> > not be stopped but the impact can be > >> reduced. Similarly, in a chart if he > >>> > has a poor significations for a happy marital life, if he is marched to a > >>> > better one, there wont be permanent separation but misunderstanding or > >>> > temporary separation during the unfavorable period. > >>>>> > > Pls give your views on the above. > >>> > > > >>> > > With Regards > >>> > > Adith > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Hi > >>> > > neither guna nor kuta will helpful in matching of boy-girl horoscope as > >>>>> > it is predestined and he/she should get marry what has already destined in > >>> > their > >> charts. > >>> > > i remember one girl chart in which i had predicted short marital life > >>> > as well as i had predicted diseases of her husband by anlysing her chart. > >>> > Later girl married and lead marital life for few years and her faced health > >>>>> > problem resulted in his death. > >>> > > >>> > > both in hindu predictive as well as in kp for marital life some > >>> > combination and significance has given. > >>> > > Regards > >>> > > Sahhasra Saagara > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > > >>>>> > > > >>> > > @gro ups.com > >>> > > > >>> > > Cc: Wyomesh wyomeshd > > >>> > >> > > Thu, 8 April, 2010 8:14:18 PM > >>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Dear Wyomesh, > >>> > >                       Yoni Guna has been taken > >>> > care of in KPDP, for your information, under compatibility. ..! > >>>>> > >                        With best wishes, > >>> > >                       Yogesh Lajmi. > >>> > > >>> > > > >>> > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, Wyomesh wyomeshd > wrote: > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Wyomesh wyomeshd > > >>> > > Subject: > >> Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >>> > > @gro ups.com > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Received: Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 1:59 PM > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Hello > >>> > > > >>> > > I would like to add here something... . > >>> > > It is very important to see YONI GUNA. Suppose male YONI is GAU (cow) > >>>>> > > and Female's Yoni is VYAGHRA ( LION)... Both are hard enemies. So, Even > >>> > on matching perfect can not give satisfactory married life. > >>> > > > >>> > > So we should always look for traditional rules with KP. > >>>>> > > > >>> > > Thank you > >>> > > > >>> > > @gro ups.com, " kadavasalramani " <kadavasalramani@ > wrote: > >>>>> > > > > >>> > > > Dear Sri Adithj, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of > >>> > late Guruji, Sri KSK. > >>> > > > It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified > >>>>> > according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for matching > >>> > the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. In > >>> > this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple will > >>>>> > lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this there is > >>> > no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, Saturn > >>> > Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes > >>>>> > according to KP system. > >>> > > > >> > > >>> > > > Regards, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > K.S.V.Ramani > >>> > > > - > >>> > > > adith kasinath.g.k > >>> > > > @gro ups.com > >>>>> > > > Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM > >>> > > > KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Dear friends, > >>>>> > > > > >>> > > > Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed in > >>> > the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.? > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom? > >>>>> > > > > >>> > > > I hope this is being given in some sw. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > I will > >> be obliged to get these details > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Thanks and Regards > >>> > > > Adith > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > >>>>> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > >>> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > >>>>> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > >>> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > >>>>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 Thankyou, TKP--- On Sat, 17/4/10, Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_tkp wrote:Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_tkpRe: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching Date: Saturday, 17 April, 2010, 8:26 PM Dear Ms.SujataThis is only about the longevity of the Nellore boy you have given the details.Basic DataBoy,29-7-1977, 06:14AM,Nellore, 14N26,79E58, KPNA 23:27:14,Asc Cn 16:22:08The boy's Ju is posited in 11th closely conjuct with 11th lord Ve.But in stallar astrology star lord is stronger than the planet's posited strength.Jup is placed in Mars star and Mars is in 10th which is detrimental to 11th.Hence 11th cannot operate in Jup period.Again Jup has not gone as star to any planet.So it has to operate of its own ,thro Mars star.Mars owns 5 and10 placed in 10.Jup will enjoy 5 and 10 strongly than its posited place 11.Since 6 and 9 are occupied Jup dont have any say over those places.Certainly Jup dasa is not his dasa for extinct.You may count 13+16 and Sat is no way destroyer,hence another 19.In surface level Sat is in 1st cusp-good longevity.Jup is aspecting 8th-good longevity.Sat is aspecting 3rd-good longevity.So he enjoys full term of longevity.--- On Sat, 4/17/10, sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> wrote:sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in>Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching@gro ups.comSaturday, April 17, 2010, 10:06 AM Dear TWjiThank you so much for the prompt reply. I was hoping that she be financially independentbefore marriage. She would have cleared writing her papers in Oct. this year. Ju. would enter Pisces in Dec this year So she may get the job after marriage.I hope it will ba love marriage, as hinted by uThankyou once again.RegardsSujata--- On Fri, 16/4/10, TW <tw853 > wrote:TW <tw853 > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching@gro ups.comFriday, 16 April, 2010, 7:23 AM Dear Sujata ji, 1. Your concern of his 1CSL Ju+(11Bdk,6- 9)closely Conj Ve(11,4-11) is understandable. 2. However Ju+ is a very strong significator of houses 1 & 3 by cuspal sublordship without any planet in its stars. Ju is in star Ma(10,5-10), and sub Ke(9)with stl Me(1,3-12) & sgl Ju. So medium longivity is expected. 3. Her 7CSL Ve(11,3-8) is in star Mo(10,5) and sub Sa(7Bdk,11-12) . 4. Marriage matter would be unavoidable for her when transit Ju is passing Pisces while Sa is in Virgo. Good luck for her! (with 7CS signifying 5th & 5CSL 7th house) TW Basic Data Boy,29-7-1977, 06:14AM,Nellore, 14N26,79E58, KPNA 23:27:14,Asc Cn 16:22:08 Girl,13-06-1983, 11:00AM,New Delhi,28N36, 77E12,KPNA 23:31:48,Asc Pi 09:05:08 KPDK Matching total score 63.33%, Criterion no 10 58.33% on 15-04-2010 by KPAstro 3.5 @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote: > > Dear TWji > I am considering a boy for my daughter. KPDP score is 59%, KPDP 10 is more than 80% but I am concerned about his longivity. His lagna sublord is ju+ in badhaksthan in rapt conjunction with ve, badhaka lord. His ju dasa will start after 13 yrs. > Would u kindly give your views about his longivity ? > His dob is 29-7-77, pob is Nellore, tob is 6-14 am. > My daughters 7th csl is csl of 6, 8 and 1 > With many thanks in advance > Regards > Sujata > > --- On Wed, 14/4/10, TW <tw853 wrote: > > TW <tw853 > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > @gro ups.com > Wednesday, 14 April, 2010, 8:34 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > 1. Matching is not recommendable, if the KPDP criterion no 10 "WETHER THE PERIOD LORDS NOW OPERATING IN BOTH CHARTS NOW INDICATE DESIRABILITY OF MATCHING FOR MARRIAGE" is below 51 even though total score is high. > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 5535 > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 11184?threaded= 1 > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28308?threaded= 1 > > 2. In the cases of multi-marriage, the KPDP matching scores may not be clear indicators. > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28128?threaded= 1 > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28186?threaded= 1 > > 3. In the cases of complaints for divorce, the marriage would not break down, if the criterion no 10 score is high above 51 at that time. > > 4. Request of any member for KPDP calculation would be done by KPAstro 3.5 and posted in this forum. > > Regards, > > TW > > > > @gro ups.com, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friend. > > > > > > Yes it is not in any KP Books in any language. > > > KPDP is a priceless task of KP Kuppuganapathy ji. > > > > > > To read the whole article please Go to Files->Articles- >KPDP Doc > > > > > > or > > > > > > (KP & Astrology Year Book 1997, page 32-44; also in KP E-Zine March 2007(http://loger .com) incorporated in Shri > > > Raichur’s SW and KPAstro > > > > > > Kalyan > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Niranjan Sant <shreegauriassociat es01@> > > > @gro ups.com > > > Tue, 13 April, 2010 3:05:33 PM > > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > > > What is this KPDP? Can anybody explain in details? I never came accross while going through KP Books in Marathi. > > > > > > Sant Guruji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> > > > @gro ups.com > > > Mon, 12 April, 2010 2:11:02 PM > > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet > > > Kindly installKPDP software on the group files > > > Regard > > > Sujata > > > > > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, K. P. Naidu <konathalan@ . co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >K. P. Naidu <konathalan@ . co.in> > > > >Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >@gro ups.com > > > >Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 10:18 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear sri Adith Ji, > > > > > > > >KPDP rules are available in the files section of this group in Articles section. > > > > > > > >Thanks & Regards, > > > >Naidu KP > > > > > > > >K. P. Naidu, > > > >Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > > >Nowroji Road, > > > >Maharanipeta, > > > >VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > > >Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > > > > >--- On Wed, 7/4/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> > > > >>Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >>@gro ups.com > > > >>Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 3:34 PM > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>Dear Sri Adithj, > > > >> > > > >>KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of late Guruji, Sri KSK. > > > >>It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for matching the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. In this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple will lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this there is no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, Saturn Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes according to KP system. > > > >> > > > >>Regards, > > > >> > > > >>K.S.V.Ramani > > > >>- > > > >>>adith kasinath.g.k > > > >>>@gro ups.com > > > >>>Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM > > > >>> KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>Dear friends, > > > >>> > > > >>>Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed in the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.? > > > >>> > > > >>>Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom? > > > >>> > > > >>>I hope this is being given in some sw. > > > >>> > > > >>>I will be obliged to get these details > > > >>> > > > >>>Thanks and Regards > > > >>>Adith > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > >Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Is 8th significator for good or bad longevity? KP Reader III P 128/New Edition p 135 As regards health, the significator of ascendant should not be the significator of the houses 6 or 8 or 12. P 137-138/New Edition p 144 If a planet is the significator of lagna bhava, it gives long life, success in attempts; it helps to maintain good health, if the sub lord is not the significator of 6 or 8 or 12. Practical Part P 8/New Edition p 160-161 8th house is called the house of " longevity " . Therefore planets in the constellation of evil planets in the 8th house, except Saturn, occupants of the 8th house, planets in the constellation or in the sub of lord of 8, lord of the 8th cusp and planets in any manner connected with them threaten (a) danger to one's life, (b) the cause of death and © the place of death. Practical Part p 12/New Edition p 165 8th house shows unexpected and minor or serious incidents affecting one's health and causing anxiety to life. Practical Part p 22/New Edition p 175 (a) If a person born with the cusp of ascendant in the constellation of the lord of 6 or 8, he will not have Sufficient immunity and resistance against infectious diseases…… Therefore if the ascendant and the lord of ascendant are in the constellation of planets , significators of houses other than 6 or 8 or 12 and if the sub also is not governed by them, native will live long; good health will be maintained. KP Reader VI P 155 If the sub lord of the ascendant is deposited in the constellation of the significator of the 8th house, he will meet accident. P 157 Kethu is in the constellation of Mars (lord of 2) and in the sub of Venus ( lord of 8), a strong significator of death. , Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_tkp wrote: > > Dear Ms.SujataThis is only about the longevity of the Nellore boy you have given the details. > Basic DataBoy,29-7-1977, 06:14AM,Nellore, 14N26,79E58, KPNA 23:27:14,Asc Cn 16:22:08 > The boy's Ju is posited in 11th closely conjuct with 11th lord Ve.But in stallar astrology star lord is stronger than the planet's posited strength.Jup is placed in Mars star and Mars is in 10th which is  detrimental to 11th.Hence 11th cannot operate in Jup period.Again Jup has not gone as star to any planet.So it has to operate of its own ,thro Mars star.Mars owns 5 and10 placed in 10.Jup will enjoy 5 and 10 strongly than its posited place 11.Since 6 and 9 are occupied Jup dont have any say over those > places.Certainly Jup dasa is not his dasa for extinct.You may count 13+16 and Sat is no way destroyer,hence another 19.In surface level Sat is in 1st cusp-good longevity.Jup is aspecting 8th-good longevity.Sat is aspecting 3rd-good longevity.So he enjoys full term of longevity.--- On Sat, 4/17/10, sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote: > > sujata das <sujatadash1 > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > Saturday, April 17, 2010, 10:06 AM > > > > > > > > > >  > > > Dear TWji > Thank you so much for the prompt reply. I was hoping that she be financially independent > before marriage. > She would have cleared writing her papers in Oct. this year. Ju. would enter Pisces in Dec this year So she may get the job after marriage. > I hope it will ba love marriage, as hinted by u > Thankyou once again. > Regards > Sujata > --- On Fri, 16/4/10, TW <tw853 > wrote: > > TW <tw853 > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > @gro ups.com > Friday, 16 April, 2010, 7:23 AM >  Dear Sujata ji, > > 1. Your concern of his 1CSL Ju+(11Bdk,6- 9)closely Conj Ve(11,4-11) is understandable. > > 2. However Ju+ is a very strong significator of houses 1 & 3 by cuspal sublordship without any planet in its stars. Ju is in star Ma(10,5-10), and sub Ke(9)with stl Me(1,3-12) & sgl Ju. So medium longivity is expected. > > 3. Her 7CSL Ve(11,3-8) is in star Mo(10,5) and sub Sa(7Bdk,11-12) . > > 4. Marriage matter would be unavoidable for her when transit Ju is passing Pisces while Sa is in Virgo. > > Good luck for her! > > (with 7CS signifying 5th & 5CSL 7th house) > > TW > > > > Basic Data > > Boy,29-7-1977, 06:14AM,Nellore, 14N26,79E58, KPNA 23:27:14,Asc Cn 16:22:08 > > Girl,13-06-1983, 11:00AM,New Delhi,28N36, 77E12,KPNA 23:31:48,Asc Pi 09:05:08 > > KPDK Matching total score 63.33%, Criterion no 10 58.33% on 15-04-2010 by KPAstro 3.5 > > > > @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear TWji > > > I am considering a boy for my daughter. KPDP score is 59%, KPDP 10 is more than 80% but I am concerned about his longivity. His lagna sublord is ju+ in badhaksthan in rapt conjunction with ve, badhaka lord. His ju dasa will start after 13 yrs. > > > Would u kindly give your views about his longivity ? > > > His dob is 29-7-77, pob is Nellore, tob is 6-14 am. > > > My daughters 7th csl is csl of 6, 8 and 1 > > > With many thanks in advance > > > Regards > > > Sujata > > > > > > --- On Wed, 14/4/10, TW <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > TW <tw853@> > > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > @gro ups.com > > > Wednesday, 14 April, 2010, 8:34 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > 1. Matching is not recommendable, if the KPDP criterion no 10 " WETHER THE PERIOD LORDS NOW OPERATING IN BOTH CHARTS NOW INDICATE DESIRABILITY OF MATCHING FOR MARRIAGE " is below 51 even though total score is high. > > > > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 5535 > > > > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 11184?threaded= 1 > > > > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28308?threaded= 1 > > > > > > 2. In the cases of multi-marriage, the KPDP matching scores may not be clear indicators. > > > > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28128?threaded= 1 > > > > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28186?threaded= 1 > > > > > > 3. In the cases of complaints for divorce, the marriage would not break down, if the criterion no 10 score is high above 51 at that time. > > > > > > 4. Request of any member for KPDP calculation would be done by KPAstro 3.5 and posted in this forum. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > TW > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes it is not in any KP Books in any language. > > > > > > > KPDP is a priceless task of KP Kuppuganapathy ji. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To read the whole article please Go to Files->Articles- >KPDP Doc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (KP & Astrology Year Book 1997, page 32-44; also in KP E-Zine March 2007(http://loger .com) incorporated in Shri > > > > > > > Raichur’s SW and KPAstro > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kalyan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > Niranjan Sant <shreegauriassociat es01@> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > Tue, 13 April, 2010 3:05:33 PM > > > > > > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is this KPDP? Can anybody explain in details? I never came accross while going through KP Books in Marathi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sant Guruji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > Mon, 12 April, 2010 2:11:02 PM > > > > > > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet > > > > > > > Kindly installKPDP software on the group files > > > > > > > Regard > > > > > > > Sujata > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, K. P. Naidu <konathalan@ . co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >K. P. Naidu <konathalan@ . co.in> > > > > > > > >Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > >@gro ups.com > > > > > > > >Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 10:18 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear sri Adith Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >KPDP rules are available in the files section of this group in Articles section. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > >Naidu KP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >K. P. Naidu, > > > > > > > >Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > > > > > > >Nowroji Road, > > > > > > > >Maharanipeta, > > > > > > > >VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > > > > > > >Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- On Wed, 7/4/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> > > > > > > > >>Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > >>@gro ups.com > > > > > > > >>Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 3:34 PM > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>Dear Sri Adithj, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of late Guruji, Sri KSK. > > > > > > > >>It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for matching the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. In this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple will lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this there is no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, Saturn Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes according to KP system. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>Regards, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>K.S.V.Ramani > > > > > > > >>- > > > > > > > >>>adith kasinath.g.k > > > > > > > >>>@gro ups.com > > > > > > > >>>Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM > > > > > > > >>> KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>Dear friends, > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed in the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.? > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom? > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>I hope this is being given in some sw. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>I will be obliged to get these details > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > >>>Adith > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > > > >Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Dear Friends, Where in KP such kinds of combination have the place to follow? KP reference? KP rationale? Thanks and regards, TW Whereas,if the setup of the sublords of the houses IV,VIII & XII are set up as follows : Venus-Saturn-Venus Venus-Merc-Venus Moon-Sun-Moon Moon-Mars-Moon Sat-Merc-Saturn such a Jatak will never suffer even a small scratch in his entire lifetime...! , Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote: > > Dear Adith, >                Could you please send me the charts where this rule has failed...because in actual practice it is in extremely rare cases that one among these combinations are found to exist...! >                With kind regards, >                Yogesh Lajmi. > > --- On Fri, 16/4/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath wrote: > > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > " Yogesh Lajmi " <yogeshlajmi > Received: Friday, 16 April, 2010, 3:42 PM > > > Dear Yogesh ji, > > I agree with your points. > > But I am doubtful about the possibility of NO ACCIDENT in one's life time due to the said combination. > We have to study a lot. I remeber I tried to apply to few cases, I failed. > > With Regards > Adith  > > > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi wrote: Dear Senthil, >                  If one was destined to suffer a bad injury in an accident,he would have forgotten to wear a helmet,or he would have suffered severe injuries,despite his wearing a helmet... that is how destiny operates...(Karma in action...). >  >                  One can explain why one is lucky not to have a single accident in his entire life,only by K.P. Principles... >  >                  If the Vimshottari Dasa period running is ruled by the s/lords of the cusps of IV,VIII & XII,one will surely meet with an accident... >  >                 Whereas,if the setup of the sublords of the houses IV,VIII & XII are set up as follows : >                           Venus-Saturn-Venus >                           Venus-Merc-Venus >                           Moon-Sun-Moon >                           Moon-Mars-Moon >                          Sat-Merc-Saturn >                  such a Jatak will never suffer even a small scratch in his entire lifetime...! >  >                 Also, a careful in-depth examination of the s/l of the Ascendant can reveal ones Destiny...Long/Short Life,Rich/Poor,Healthy/Sickly and so on...as was decided by Bramha soon after one's Birth... >                 >                  And so on...Krishnamurthi Padhdhati, has so many wonderful possibilities...! ! >  >                 An indepth study of K.P., patiently and carefully,will surely help dizcover these possibilities... >  >                 With the very best wishes, >                 Yogesh Lajmi. >                                         \   GOOD LUCK ! > >                 >  > > --- On Fri, 16/4/10, Senthil <athi_ram wrote: > > > > Senthil <athi_ram > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > Received: Friday, 16 April, 2010, 12:58 AM > > >  > > > Dear Adith, > > // > If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope. There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. > > Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control? > // > >  > > As per my view if the person has to meet with an accident in a particular moment but no death is indicated that is including DBA as well as transit don't signify/agree for death(badaka/ maraka etc) then some how he/she will escape by wearing helmet or without Helmet. I have explained few months back in this forum. During my advanced astrology study time (may be year 2000) one accident case chat was discussed in the class who didn’t die but went to coma stage. >  > > Similarly, suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. Due to some reason they may ignore or misguided by some other astrologer/somebody etc and finally they may not be going for the marriage with girl you have suggested as THE BEST MATCH.(Hope this may be happening for most Astrologers too.) > >  > So as an astrologer what are you controlling here? I believe that you are doing you own karma only (say astrologer work/duty) >  > Hope you can understand it now and the above are my personal views only. > >  > GOOD LUCK!! >  > D.Senthil > > >  > > --- On Wed, 4/14/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > @gro ups.com > > > > Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 7:25 PM > > >  > > Dear Suna ji, > > Thanks for your valuable explanation. > So kind of you. > > You mean to say that one will be free to do according to the present sources available or the effort he himself takes to do it. I agree with this to a great extent. But if he is not destined astrologically, he may not succeed in his effort. > > For instance, a boy if he tries hard to get score , he can not if his chart and periods do not support. > > But as you said, I agree as follows: > > For instance, if one takes up his decision to do or no to a work according to his own thought or by some one's advice, his current deeds are controlled .He may escape from doing a wrong deed as per the past Karma. > > When no vehicles were invented, if a man those days has the significations of 4,11 he will get a cart or similar to that. After the inventions of the Vehicles, one will get the bike or car etc.,. It means one could be influenced with the present available sources. Similarly, one will do his deeds according to his present situation and his mind set and effort. If he is a person with any past bitter experience in any event, business, when his similar bad time comes again, he will take his decision vary cautiously sothat the impact will be reduced , though not avoided fully. So he has the control. > > Similarly in the present life, one has good contacts with gurus, good astrologers, well wishers , even a person with bad characters is guided properly and does some good deeds. > In those days, in a joint family where there will be a Head (very old experienced person) who will lead the total family members. Everyone has to act according to his advice only. There the percentage of failures, wrong deeds were greatly reduced. Though one of the family member who has the tendency to do bad events will be under control. But once that Head passes away, the total family is collapsed and splitted. Then as there is no guidance, they act act as per the destiny without any control and face the troubles accordingly. > > If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope. > There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. > > Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control? > > The above are my personal points only. > > Your valuable inputs are welcome, as you are all much experienced person. > > Thanks and REgards > Adith    > > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote: > > >  > > > > > Dear Adith ji, > > I also wish to add some ideas for your doubt on Kamma. > > > If a person had done any good deeds or bad deeds in his previous birth, and if he has not finished his Karma for rebirth, he may receive passport to the next birth. Sometimes he might have low marks in his last examination in his previous birth, but enough level for a pass, he may come back to the universe to complete his lost subject and for high marks to finish his journey of life. So everyone must understand this fact of completing his weak subjects and get the highest mark rate for a pass. >  > This is a very simple interpretation of Kamma. >  > If a man climbs to the third floor of a building, it is undeniable true that his arriving to third floor is a result of his past action (Kamma) that is, WALKING up the stairs. And having arrived there, it is impossible for him to reach out and touch the ground with his hand, or drive a car up and down there. Obviously this is because he has gone up to the third floor. Or, having arrived at the third floor, whether he is too exhausted to continue is also related to having walked up the stairs. His arrival there, the things he is able to do there and the situation he is likely to encounter, are all certainly related to the OLD KAMMA of having walked up the stairs. But exactly which action he will perform, his reactions to the situations which arise there, whether he will take a rest, walk on, or walk back down the stairs and out of that building, are all matters which he can decide for himself in that PRESENT moment, for which he will also reap the > results. Even though the action of walking up the stairs may still be influencing him (for example, with his strength sapped he may be unable to function efficiently in any given situation), whether he decides to give in to that tiredness or try to overcome it, are all matters which he can decide for himself in the present moment. > > > > Therefore OLD KAMMA should be understood in its relation to the whole cause and effect process. In terms of ethical practice, to understand the cause and effect process is to be able to learn from Old Kamma, understanding the situation at hand, and to skillfully make a plan of action for improving and correcting the future. > > > >  > Kalyan > >  > TW <tw853 > > > @gro ups.com > Wed, 14 April, 2010 9:06:02 AM > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >  > > > Dear Adith ji, > 1. Everything in one's life may be said as predestined at the moment of birth by past karma for the possibility of cent percent accuracy in the astrological prediction which is not the case in practice. Because please note " it may be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects of his Karma. " > 2. " If the present life is totally conditioned or wholly controlled by our past actions, then certainly Karma is tantamount to fatalism or determinism or predestination. If this were true, free will would be an absurdity. Life would be purely mechanistic, not much different from a machine. Such a fatalistic doctrine is not the Buddhist law of Karma…Karma does not necessarily mean past actions. It embraces both past and present deeds. Hence in one sense, we are the result of what we were; we will be the result of what we are… The inequality that exists among mankind is the result of our own past actions and our own present doings (esp viriya 'effort' and panna 'wisdom'). We ourselves are responsible for our own. " > -Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw (The Theory of Karma) > 3. In the Upajjhatthana Sutta (AN 5.57), the Lord Buddha states: > " I am the owner of my karma. I inherit my karma. I am born of my karma. I am related to my karma. I live supported by my karma. Whatever karma I create, whether good or evil, that I shall inherit. " > Regards, > TW > > > > > @gro ups.com, " adith kasinath.g.k " <gkadithkasinath@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear TW ji, > > > > Thanks for the valuable points by our Guruji. > > > > But I ever have teh following question in mind unanswered. > > > > When all is destined in one life, he can not be responsible for his deeds in > > the present life. > > For example, if one happens to be a bad person in all activities due to his > > past bad deeds, he may not be in a position to do any good deeds in his > > present life. In this case, in his next births also we can expect him to be > > a bad human only. So how can one is expected to do any good deeds in his > > birth? > > > > can you enlighten me on this? > > > > Regards > > Adith > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM, TW <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > *Guruji KSK's Quotations on Karma, Destiny* > > > > > > Chances, luck or misfortune are governed by the law of Causation or Karma. > > > God is neither partial or unjust, and everything happens according to one's > > > action in the past birth. > > > > > > When we think we understand that the theory " Karma and Incarnation " alone > > > can convince.--- what we have to enjoy is undoubtedly predestined. I cannot > > > understand how the judgment of God can be, in any manner, modified or > > > nullified by our efforts.--- > > > > > > Everything is predestined. ---None can dodge fate.--- If one can change the > > > event by one's will, then astrology has no place. > > > > > > Karma can be divided broadly into three kinds: Dhruda (fixed) Karma that > > > one has committed an inexcusable mistake or crime in the previous birth, > > > Dhruda - Adhruda (fixed/non-fixed) Karma that one would have committed an > > > excusable mistake in the previous birth, and Adhruda (non-fixed) Karma that > > > the crime committed may be negligible…The majority of people commit > > > excusable mistakes called Dhruda †" Adhruda Karma. Therefore Shanti will be > > > done by them with or without their knowledge and they will not ultimately > > > suffer… Just like one has no choice about his birth time, place and his > > > parents, so also there is nothing left in one's hands. Everything is > > > pre-destined. None can change it. Then only one can use this > > > science…Astrology is a science. It needs further research and confirmation. > > > There is no use for the word " Likely " . Everything is a certainty… It may > > > be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of > > > his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way > > > directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects > > > of his Karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prasanna, > > > >                      As per K.P.,and nobody/nothing > > > can change human destiny/fate, once written by Brahma soon after one's > > > birth...your quote of Nacchiketa is of a very rare and extra-ordinary > > > case... > > > >                      Guruji KSK had predicted the > > > death of a retired senior retired Govt. Official who requested him > > > to predit even the Tome of his death...which the worthy disbelieved > > > totally,and in order to prov KSK wrong,made arrangements to sith in his lawn > > > under a Garden Umbrella with a Thermos Flask full of coffee to wait out well > > > past the predited thr Time of Death...but alas,from the corner of his eyes > > > he was watching his dear grandson play on the verendah...and to his great > > > horror he saw him walking baxckwards towards the garden and to a fall on the > > > ground below and that too backwards... in a desperate attempt at preventing > > > him from walking towards his certain fall,he made a dash for him,his foot > > > got stuck in the crossbar of the easychair in which he was seated and he > > > fell down,hitting his head on the ston steps with a resounding thud,and he > > > died instantly,and to the surprise of all, the time was exactly what KSK had > > > > predicted days in advance...! > > > >                         The above has ben > > > narrated in his original Books...and prove that Astroloby is a Vedanga and > > > is born out of the Karma Theory...what is destined WILL take place...come > > > what may... ! > > > >                         This also proves the > > > accuracy of K.P. and Krishnamurthi Ayanamsa... > > > >                         Another " live " proof can > > > be had by anyone,if he so desires : > > > >                         First have a Birth Chart > > > correctly cast by a K.P. Astrologer after the necessary corrections( if > > > needed),are made... > > > >                         Then,pl. note the exact > > > time at which one gets a cut or has a fall with blood oozing out of the > > > wound... > > > >                         To your great chagrin, > > > the sublords of the IVth,VIIIth & XIIth cusps,will be the Dasa/Bhukti/ Anthra > > > lords of the persons Dasa running at the time... ! > > > >                         Pl. check and > > > inform,this is a " love " proof...what more is required ? > > > >                         With best wishes, > > > >                         Yogesh Lajmi. > > > >                       > > > >                 > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ > > > > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > Cc: ssagar86@ > > > > > > > Received: Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 6:48 PM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected sagarji, > > > > your views seem to be fatalistic. Human life is just a tiny part of this > > > vast BRAMHANDA.So many factors effect human life that it is not possible to > > > predict what will happen in future. Astrologers can only in some way study > > > the trend or tendencies.With the gene therapy even diffective genes can be > > > replaced, which instigates people to go for wrong action causing wrong > > > result. It is said person doing PAPA will get his due result in this KALI > > > ERA itself. Instances may be found where even Prarabdha was changed. Story > > > of NACHIKETA is known to all. Story of SAVITRI is also known to all. It > > > depends on the person who has been sufferring. In fact in KALI ERA people > > > do not have patience or faith that mountains can be moved.Hence no serious > > > effort is done to change the destiny. Hence with all due respect to you > > > please give your opinion in this regard. > > > >  > > > > Prasanna > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 8:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > ASTROLOGER TELLS WHAT MAY HAPPEN, BUT GOD ONLY CAN TELL WHAT EXACTLY WILL > > > HAPPEN. > > > > > > > > Naidu KP > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu, > > > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > > > Nowroji Road, > > > > Maharanipeta, > > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 12:03 AM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Adith > > > > MY first conference attend in Feb 1989 at Cuttack. > > > > i have presented three papers and speak on one important subject called " > > > Everything is predestined and no one can change or alter it , even the > > > Creator lord Brahma " > > > > We astrologers can predict the events what will happen, neither we can > > > change or alter it. > > > > I have quoted " yatha raja , tatha praja " likewise " yatha graha tatha > > > phala " . > > > > Almost all astrologer appreciated my speech, later Mr.Subramaniam asked > > > me " ur speech truly marvelous, but can u answer for one doubt " can u run in > > > a front of running vehicle by assuming that everything predestined " > > > > my answer was " if my fate is predestined to met with accident i will run > > > in front of a running bus, if my fate is not predestined for accident even > > > though i run in front of a running bus , driver will try to rescue me and he > > > will turn his vehicle which will kill some which has predestined is one > > > thing on the other hand my mind will not permit me to run in front of > > > running bus " . > > > > All astrologers are only a reader what will happen in the future. > > > > in fact i wont match guna kuta , i will match the girl and boy chart > > > weather their marriage has predestined or not. > > > > I use to predict few points of the girl/boy as per their charts.It > > > happened too. > > > > Regards > > > > Sahhasra Saagara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Senthil athi_ram > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:58:28 PM > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Adith, > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with > > > their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an > > > astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is > > > no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. So what is > > > the use for matching the charts? Actually you have to find firstly whether > > > as per his destiny his Girl’s chart is available among the 10 charts are > > > not? If yes, that is it else ask them to bring any other set of charts to > > > find his Girl (written as per his destiny) that is all. I have written an > > > article based on my past failure case (job offers) regarding  " which > > > company he will join?†in KP annual number 2010 you may refer it. > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Also during my study on Driving license one of the person who failed in > > > the 1st road test asked me the following (refer Quiz-8). He was ready to > > > attend ONLY ON TEST (no more test & the person was having urge etc.) which > > > he should get PASS. Now you have to tell which date/time he should attend > > > the test so that he will get pass on that day/time. You have to guarantee > > > that he will get appointment on that date/time (there is a chance he can > > > purposely get appointment for some other date/time or the date may be > > > already booked by many candidate and full etc), the test should be conducted > > > on that date/time (it should not be declared holiday or cancelled due to any > > > reason etc) and also he should attend the test on that date/time without > > > fail (not absent due to any reasons or there is a chance he can purposely > > > not to attend test on that date/time etc) and he should get PASS. > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Are you ready to give all the above correct? Any one failure is > > > sufficient to say that our prediction is WRONG. > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > So what is our (astrologer’s) role? I personally believe that we are > > > the tools through us some message is passed on the native/quarent that is > > > it. > > > > > > > >  > > > > The above are my personal views and not to criticize you or anybody. > > > >  > > > > GOOD LUCK!! > > > >  > > > > D.Senthil > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:49 AM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Sagar ji, > > > > > > > > I accept your points. . But if it is destined, whats the role of > > > Astrologer in matching? Why should we match? > > > > > > > > Does any astrologer play role in fixing the match ? or helping to find > > > the best match? > > > > > > > > I hope there must some logic behind in our old says.. > > > > > > > > As per the Astrologers guidelines if anyone follows, the incidents can > > > not be stopped but the impact can be reduced. Similarly, in a chart if he > > > has a poor significations for a happy marital life, if he is marched to a > > > better one, there wont be permanent separation but misunderstanding or > > > temporary separation during the unfavorable period. > > > > Pls give your views on the above. > > > > > > > > With Regards > > > > Adith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > neither guna nor kuta will helpful in matching of boy-girl horoscope as > > > it is predestined and he/she should get marry what has already destined in > > > their charts. > > > > i remember one girl chart in which i had predicted short marital life > > > as well as i had predicted diseases of her husband by anlysing her chart. > > > Later girl married and lead marital life for few years and her faced health > > > problem resulted in his death. > > > > > > > both in hindu predictive as well as in kp for marital life some > > > combination and significance has given. > > > > Regards > > > > Sahhasra Saagara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > Cc: Wyomesh wyomeshd > > > > > Thu, 8 April, 2010 8:14:18 PM > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Wyomesh, > > > >                       Yoni Guna has been taken > > > care of in KPDP, for your information, under compatibility. ..! > > > >                        With best wishes, > > > >                       Yogesh Lajmi. > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, Wyomesh wyomeshd > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wyomesh wyomeshd > > > > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Received: Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 1:59 PM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > > > I would like to add here something... . > > > > It is very important to see YONI GUNA. Suppose male YONI is GAU (cow) > > > > and Female's Yoni is VYAGHRA ( LION)... Both are hard enemies. So, Even > > > on matching perfect can not give satisfactory married life. > > > > > > > > So we should always look for traditional rules with KP. > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kadavasalramani " <kadavasalramani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Adithj, > > > > > > > > > > KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of > > > late Guruji, Sri KSK. > > > > > It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified > > > according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for matching > > > the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. In > > > this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple will > > > lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this there is > > > no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, Saturn > > > Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes > > > according to KP system. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > > - > > > > > adith kasinath.g.k > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM > > > > > KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed in > > > the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.? > > > > > > > > > > Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom? > > > > > > > > > > I hope this is being given in some sw. > > > > > > > > > > I will be obliged to get these details > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > Adith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > >  > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Dear TWjiMy csl of1, ra 1 4 7 8 should give me susceptibility to diseases, which it hasn't.Why? MAYBE BECAUSE RA ALSO IS BEING ASPECTED BY BY MA, LAGNA LORD.RegardsSujata--- On Mon, 19/4/10, TW <tw853 wrote:TW <tw853 Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching Date: Monday, 19 April, 2010, 8:18 AM Is 8th significator for good or bad longevity? KP Reader III P 128/New Edition p 135 As regards health, the significator of ascendant should not be the significator of the houses 6 or 8 or 12. P 137-138/New Edition p 144 If a planet is the significator of lagna bhava, it gives long life, success in attempts; it helps to maintain good health, if the sub lord is not the significator of 6 or 8 or 12. Practical Part P 8/New Edition p 160-161 8th house is called the house of "longevity". Therefore planets in the constellation of evil planets in the 8th house, except Saturn, occupants of the 8th house, planets in the constellation or in the sub of lord of 8, lord of the 8th cusp and planets in any manner connected with them threaten (a) danger to one's life, (b) the cause of death and © the place of death. Practical Part p 12/New Edition p 165 8th house shows unexpected and minor or serious incidents affecting one's health and causing anxiety to life. Practical Part p 22/New Edition p 175 (a) If a person born with the cusp of ascendant in the constellation of the lord of 6 or 8, he will not have Sufficient immunity and resistance against infectious diseases…… Therefore if the ascendant and the lord of ascendant are in the constellation of planets , significators of houses other than 6 or 8 or 12 and if the sub also is not governed by them, native will live long; good health will be maintained. KP Reader VI P 155 If the sub lord of the ascendant is deposited in the constellation of the significator of the 8th house, he will meet accident. P 157 Kethu is in the constellation of Mars (lord of 2) and in the sub of Venus ( lord of 8), a strong significator of death. @gro ups.com, Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_ tkp wrote: > > Dear Ms.SujataThis is only about the longevity of the Nellore boy you have given the details. > Basic DataBoy,29-7- 1977, 06:14AM,Nellore, 14N26,79E58, KPNA 23:27:14,Asc Cn 16:22:08 > The boy's Ju is posited in 11th closely conjuct with 11th lord Ve.But in stallar astrology star lord is stronger than the planet's posited strength.Jup is placed in Mars star and Mars is in 10th which is  detrimental to 11th.Hence 11th cannot operate in Jup period.Again Jup has not gone as star to any planet.So it has to operate of its own ,thro Mars star.Mars owns 5 and10 placed in 10.Jup will enjoy 5 and 10 strongly than its posited place 11.Since 6 and 9 are occupied Jup dont have any say over those > places.Certainly Jup dasa is not his dasa for extinct.You may count 13+16 and Sat is no way destroyer,hence another 19.In surface level Sat is in 1st cusp-good longevity.Jup is aspecting 8th-good longevity.Sat is aspecting 3rd-good longevity.So he enjoys full term of longevity.-- - On Sat, 4/17/10, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote: > > sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > @gro ups.com > Saturday, April 17, 2010, 10:06 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear TWji > Thank you so much for the prompt reply. I was hoping that she be financially independent > before marriage. > She would have cleared writing her papers in Oct. this year. Ju. would enter Pisces in Dec this year So she may get the job after marriage. > I hope it will ba love marriage, as hinted by u > Thankyou once again. > Regards > Sujata > --- On Fri, 16/4/10, TW <tw853 > wrote: > > TW <tw853 > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > @gro ups.com > Friday, 16 April, 2010, 7:23 AM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > Dear Sujata ji, > > 1. Your concern of his 1CSL Ju+(11Bdk,6- 9)closely Conj Ve(11,4-11) is understandable. > > 2. However Ju+ is a very strong significator of houses 1 & 3 by cuspal sublordship without any planet in its stars. Ju is in star Ma(10,5-10), and sub Ke(9)with stl Me(1,3-12) & sgl Ju. So medium longivity is expected. > > 3. Her 7CSL Ve(11,3-8) is in star Mo(10,5) and sub Sa(7Bdk,11-12) . > > 4. Marriage matter would be unavoidable for her when transit Ju is passing Pisces while Sa is in Virgo. > > Good luck for her! > > (with 7CS signifying 5th & 5CSL 7th house) > > TW > > > > Basic Data > > Boy,29-7-1977, 06:14AM,Nellore, 14N26,79E58, KPNA 23:27:14,Asc Cn 16:22:08 > > Girl,13-06-1983, 11:00AM,New Delhi,28N36, 77E12,KPNA 23:31:48,Asc Pi 09:05:08 > > KPDK Matching total score 63.33%, Criterion no 10 58.33% on 15-04-2010 by KPAstro 3.5 > > > > @gro ups.com, sujata das <sujatadash1@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear TWji > > > I am considering a boy for my daughter. KPDP score is 59%, KPDP 10 is more than 80% but I am concerned about his longivity. His lagna sublord is ju+ in badhaksthan in rapt conjunction with ve, badhaka lord. His ju dasa will start after 13 yrs. > > > Would u kindly give your views about his longivity ? > > > His dob is 29-7-77, pob is Nellore, tob is 6-14 am. > > > My daughters 7th csl is csl of 6, 8 and 1 > > > With many thanks in advance > > > Regards > > > Sujata > > > > > > --- On Wed, 14/4/10, TW <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > TW <tw853@> > > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > @gro ups.com > > > Wednesday, 14 April, 2010, 8:34 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > 1. Matching is not recommendable, if the KPDP criterion no 10 "WETHER THE PERIOD LORDS NOW OPERATING IN BOTH CHARTS NOW INDICATE DESIRABILITY OF MATCHING FOR MARRIAGE" is below 51 even though total score is high. > > > > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 5535 > > > > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 11184?threaded= 1 > > > > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28308?threaded= 1 > > > > > > 2. In the cases of multi-marriage, the KPDP matching scores may not be clear indicators. > > > > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28128?threaded= 1 > > > > > > http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28186?threaded= 1 > > > > > > 3. In the cases of complaints for divorce, the marriage would not break down, if the criterion no 10 score is high above 51 at that time. > > > > > > 4. Request of any member for KPDP calculation would be done by KPAstro 3.5 and posted in this forum. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > TW > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes it is not in any KP Books in any language. > > > > > > > KPDP is a priceless task of KP Kuppuganapathy ji. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To read the whole article please Go to Files->Articles- >KPDP Doc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (KP & Astrology Year Book 1997, page 32-44; also in KP E-Zine March 2007(http://loger .com) incorporated in Shri > > > > > > > Raichur’s SW and KPAstro > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kalyan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > Niranjan Sant <shreegauriassociat es01@> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > Tue, 13 April, 2010 3:05:33 PM > > > > > > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is this KPDP? Can anybody explain in details? I never came accross while going through KP Books in Marathi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sant Guruji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > sujata das <sujatadash1@ .co. in> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > Mon, 12 April, 2010 2:11:02 PM > > > > > > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Puneet > > > > > > > Kindly installKPDP software on the group files > > > > > > > Regard > > > > > > > Sujata > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, K. P. Naidu <konathalan@ . co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >K. P. Naidu <konathalan@ . co.in> > > > > > > > >Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > >@gro ups.com > > > > > > > >Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 10:18 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear sri Adith Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >KPDP rules are available in the files section of this group in Articles section. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > >Naidu KP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >K. P. Naidu, > > > > > > > >Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > > > > > > >Nowroji Road, > > > > > > > >Maharanipeta, > > > > > > > >VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > > > > > > >Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- On Wed, 7/4/10, kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>kadavasalramani <kadavasalramani@ gmail.com> > > > > > > > >>Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > >>@gro ups.com > > > > > > > >>Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 3:34 PM > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>Dear Sri Adithj, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of late Guruji, Sri KSK. > > > > > > > >>It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for matching the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. In this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple will lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this there is no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, Saturn Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes according to KP system. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>Regards, > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>K.S.V.Ramani > > > > > > > >>- > > > > > > > >>>adith kasinath.g.k > > > > > > > >>>@gro ups.com > > > > > > > >>>Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM > > > > > > > >>> KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>Dear friends, > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed in the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.? > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom? > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>I hope this is being given in some sw. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>I will be obliged to get these details > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > >>>Adith > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > > > >Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Dear TWjiI was happy to see the excerpts of Tipitaka. I printed them and gave them to my son. He is lazy to his core, rude and swears. Yet he reads Dhampadha and claims to have more knowledge.I am concerned about him. His ve is in ke star and sa in 12th. His room is dirty and his studies for IAS in dis-array. Its impossible to communicate with him. He is un-communicative.I had asked him to improve his qualifications by joining MBA or a computer course. But he refused.I have told him to get out but he refuses.What shall I do ? Kindly adviseRegardsSujata--- On Sun, 18/4/10, TW <tw853 wrote:TW <tw853 Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching Date: Sunday, 18 April, 2010, 9:19 PM We are the result of what we were, and we will be the result of what we are. Our present actions allows us to influence our future. The Buddha pointed out that if everything is determined, then there would be no free will and no moral or spiritual life; we would merely be the slaves of our past. One who understands the workings of karma is given consolation, hope, self reliance and moral courage. By understanding karma, we can use it to our tremendous advantage. It validates our effort, kindles our enthusiasm, makes us ever kind, tolerant and considerate. This understanding naturally prompts us to refrain from evil and to do good. In the Cula-kammavibhanga Sutta (MN 135), the Buddha stated: "... eings are owners of kammas, heirs of kammas, they have kammas as their progenitor, kammas as their kin, kammas as their homing-place. It is kammas that differentiate beings according to inferiority and superiority. " "So ... the way that leads to short life [that is, killing others] makes people [oneself] short-lived [in ones next life], the way that leads to long life makes people long-lived; the way that leads to sickness makes people sick, the way that leads to health makes people healthy; the way that leads to ugliness makes people ugly, the way that leads to beauty makes people beautiful; the way that leads to insignificance makes people insignificant, the way that leads to influence makes people influential; the way that leads to poverty makes people poor, the way that leads to riches makes people rich; the way that leads to low birth makes people low-born, the way that leads to high birth makes people high-born; the way that leads to stupidity makes people stupid, the way that leads to wisdom makes people wise...." http://www.accessto insight.org/ tipitaka/ mn/mn.135. nymo.html http://www.accessto insight.org/ tipitaka/ mn/mn.135. than.html @gro ups.com, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ ...> wrote: > > > > All beings are the owners of their Kamma > Heirs of their Kamma > Born of their Kamma > Related to their Kamma > Supported by their kamma... > > Unfortunately some human beings are unable to understand this truth. > It is also the Kamma of their own. > > The Law of Kamma, as one of Buddhism's central themes, requires only a modicum of learning, > but also a good deal of Inner Reflection. > > Kalyan > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ ...> > @gro ups.com > Sat, 17 April, 2010 5:38:12 PM > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > Dear Friend, > The KPDP rules sources were given in the initial replies itself. pls check it. > Even these rules are also to be practically experienced. > > The Karma dicussion is part of this only. If everything is destined, the role of Astrologers in following such rules in matching is of no use. So pls look into the cause of the discussion why karma is taken in this thread ! > > Hence. pls do not comment on others discussions if you do not understand or not interested. This is my humble suggestion. > > Regards > Adith > > > On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:07 PM, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhama@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >Dear friends, > > > >with this head of subject ...that is kpdp rules in marriage matching...i couldnot find any of you given actual rules at all.. and all the time writing only some kamma thoeries.... > > > >please come back to astrology and produce rules to marriage matching as per kp...and how by seeing any charts of boy and girl instantly we can tell that these are born to couple together... > > > >coming back to your kamma theories.... please take your retreats first...do some years fo actual meditation ....then with practical expeirience only...you guys can have .after realisation of some final truth can discuss and teach other....not by mere referring some others works... > > > >thanking you, > >suniel > >09297102711 > > > > > >--- On Sat, 17/4/10, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > > > > > >>Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > > >> > >>Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >>"adith kasinath.g.k" <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > >>Cc: @gro ups.com > >>>>Saturday, 17 April, 2010, 10:29 AM > >> > >> > >> > >>Dear Adith, > >> Could you please send me the charts where this rule has failed...because in actual practice it is in extremely rare cases that one among these combinations are found to exist...! > >> With kind regards, > >> Yogesh Lajmi. > >> > >>--- On Fri, 16/4/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >>>adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > >>>Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >>>>>>"Yogesh Lajmi" <yogeshlajmi@ > > >>>Received: Friday, 16 April, 2010, 3:42 PM > >>> > >>> > >>>Dear Yogesh ji, > >>> > >>>I agree with your points. > >>> > >>>But I am doubtful about the possibility of NO ACCIDENT in one's life time due to the said combination. > >>>We have to study a lot. I remeber I tried to apply to few cases, I failed. > >>> > >>>With Regards > >>>Adith > >>> > >>> > >>>On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > >>> > >>>Dear Senthil, > >>>> If one was destined to suffer a bad injury in an accident,he would have forgotten to wear a helmet,or he would have suffered severe injuries,despite his wearing a helmet... that is how destiny operates...( Karma in action...). > >>>> > >>>> One can explain why one is lucky not to have a single accident in his entire life,only by K.P. Principles.. . > >>>> > >>>> If the Vimshottari Dasa period running is ruled by the s/lords of the cusps of IV,VIII & XII,one will surely meet with an accident... > >>>> > >>>> Whereas,if the setup of the sublords of the houses IV,VIII & XII are set up as follows : > >>>> Venus-Saturn- Venus > >>>> Venus-Merc-Venus > >>>> Moon-Sun-Moon > >>>> Moon-Mars-Moon > >>>> Sat-Merc-Saturn > >>>> such a Jatak will never suffer even a small scratch in his entire lifetime...! > >>>> > >>>> Also, a careful in-depth examination of the s/l of the Ascendant can reveal ones Destiny...Long/ Short Life,Rich/Poor, Healthy/Sickly and so on...as was decided by Bramha soon after one's Birth... > >>>> > >>>> And so on...Krishnamurthi Padhdhati, has so many wonderful possibilities. ..! ! > >>>> > >>>> An indepth study of K.P., patiently and carefully,will surely help dizcover these possibilities. .. > >>>> > >>>> With the very best wishes, > >>>> Yogesh Lajmi. > >>>> GOOD LUCK ! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>--- On Fri, 16/4/10, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Senthil <athi_ram > > >>>>> > >>>>>Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >>>>>@gro ups.com > >>>>> > >>>>>Received: Friday, 16 April, 2010, 12:58 AM > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Dear Adith, > >>>>> > >>>>>// > >>>>>If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope. There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. > >>>>> > >>>>>Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control? > >>>>>// > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>As per my view if the person has to meet with an accident in a particular moment but no death is indicated that is including DBA as well as transit don't signify/agree for death(badaka/ maraka etc) then some how he/she will escape by wearing helmet or without Helmet. I have explained few months back in this forum. During my advanced astrology study time (may be year 2000) one accident case chat was discussed in the class who didn’t die but went to coma stage. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Similarly, suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. Due to some reason they may ignore or misguided by some other astrologer/somebody etc and finally they may not be going for the marriage with girl you have suggested as THE BEST MATCH.(Hope this may be happening for most Astrologers too.) > >>>>> > >>>>>So as an astrologer what are you controlling here? I believe that you are doing you own karma only (say astrologer work/duty) > >>>>> > >>>>>Hope you can understand it now and the above are my personal views only. > >>>>> > >>>>>GOOD LUCK!! > >>>>> > >>>>>D.Senthil > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>--- On Wed, 4/14/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > >>>>>>Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >>>>>>@gro ups.com > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 7:25 PM > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Dear Suna ji, > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Thanks for your valuable explanation. > >>>>>>So kind of you. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>You mean to say that one will be free to do according to the present sources available or the effort he himself takes to do it. I agree with this to a great extent. But if he is not destined astrologically, he may not succeed in his effort. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>For instance, a boy if he tries hard to get score , he can not if his chart and periods do not support. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>But as you said, I agree as follows: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>For instance, if one takes up his decision to do or no to a work according to his own thought or by some one's advice, his current deeds are controlled .He may escape from doing a wrong deed as per the past Karma. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>When no vehicles were invented, if a man those days has the significations of 4,11 he will get a cart or similar to that. After the inventions of the Vehicles, one will get the bike or car etc.,. It means one could be influenced with the present > >>>>>> available sources. Similarly, one will do his deeds according to his present situation and his mind set and effort. If he is a person with any past bitter experience in any event, business, when his similar bad time comes again, he will take his decision vary cautiously sothat the impact will be reduced , though not avoided fully. So he has the control. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Similarly in the present life, one has good contacts with gurus, good astrologers, well wishers , even a person with bad characters is guided properly and does some good deeds. > >>>>>>In those days, in a joint family where there will be a Head (very old experienced person) who will lead the total family members. Everyone has to act according to his advice only. There the percentage of failures, wrong deeds were greatly reduced. Though one of the family member who has the tendency to do bad events will be under control. But once that Head passes away, the total family is collapsed and splitted. Then > >>>>>> as there is no guidance, they act act as per the destiny without any control and face the troubles accordingly. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope. > >>>>>>>>>>>> There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control? > >>>>>> > >>>>>>The above are my personal points only. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Your valuable inputs are welcome, as you are all much experienced person. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Thanks and REgards > >>>>>>Adith > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>Dear Adith ji, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>I also wish to add some ideas for your doubt on Kamma. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>If a person had done any good deeds or bad deeds in his previous birth, and if he has not finished his Karma for rebirth, he may receive passport to the next birth. Sometimes he might have low marks in his last examination in his previous birth, but enough level for a pass, he may come back to the universe to complete his lost subject and for high marks to finish his journey of life. So everyone must understand this fact of completing his weak subjects and get the highest mark rate for a pass. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>This is a very simple interpretation of Kamma. > >> > >> > >>If a man climbs to the third floor of a building, it is undeniable true that his arriving to third floor is a result of his past action (Kamma) that is, WALKING up the stairs. And having arrived there, it is impossible for him to reach out and touch the ground with his hand, or drive a car up and down there. Obviously this is because he has gone up to the third floor. Or, having arrived at the third floor, whether he is too exhausted to continue is also related to having walked up the stairs. His arrival there, the things he is able to do there and the situation he is likely to encounter, are all certainly related to the OLD KAMMA of having walked up the stairs. But exactly which action he will perform, his reactions to the situations which arise there, whether he will take a rest, walk on, or walk back down the stairs and out of that building, are all matters which he can decide for himself in > >> that PRESENT moment, for which he will also reap the results. Even though the action of walking up the stairs may still be influencing him (for example, with his strength sapped he may be unable to function efficiently in any given situation), whether he decides to give in to that tiredness or try to overcome it, are all matters which he can decide for himself in the present moment. > >> > >>Therefore OLD KAMMA should be understood in its relation to the whole cause and effect process. In terms of ethical practice, to understand the cause and effect process is to be able to learn from Old Kamma, understanding the situation at hand, and to skillfully make a plan of action for improving and correcting the future. > >> > >>Kalyan > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ____________ _________ _________ __ > TW <tw853 > > >> > >> > >>@gro ups.com > >>Wed, 14 April, 2010 9:06:02 AM > >> Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >> > >> > >>Dear Adith ji, > >>1. Everything in one's life may be said as predestined at the moment of birth by past karma for the possibility of cent percent accuracy in the astrological prediction which is not the case in practice. Because please note "it may be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects of his Karma." > >>>>2. "If the present life is totally conditioned or wholly controlled by our past actions, then certainly Karma is tantamount to fatalism or determinism or predestination. If this were true, free will would be an absurdity. Life would be purely mechanistic, not much different from a machine. Such a fatalistic doctrine is not the Buddhist law of Karma…Karma does not necessarily mean past actions. It embraces both past and present deeds. Hence in one sense, we are > >> the result of what we were; we will be the result of what we are… The inequality that exists among mankind is the result of our own past actions and our own present doings (esp viriya 'effort' and panna 'wisdom'). We ourselves are responsible for our own." > >>>>-Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw (The Theory of Karma) > >>3. In the Upajjhatthana Sutta (AN 5.57), the Lord Buddha states: > >>"I am the owner of my karma. I inherit my karma. I am born of my karma. I am related to my karma. I live supported by my karma. Whatever karma I create, whether good or evil, that I shall inherit." > >>>>Regards, > >>TW > >> > >> > >>@gro ups.com, "adith kasinath.g.k" <gkadithkasinath@ ...> wrote: > >>>>> > >>> Dear TW ji, > >>> > >>> Thanks for the valuable points by our Guruji. > >>> > >>> But I ever have teh following question in mind unanswered. > >>> > >>> When all is destined in one life, he can not be responsible for his deeds in > >>>>> the present life. > >>> For example, if one happens to be a bad person in all activities due to his > >>> past bad deeds, he may not be in a position to do any good deeds in his > >>> present life. In this case, in his next births also we can expect him to be > >>>>> a bad human only. So how can one is expected to do any good deeds in his > >>> birth? > >>> > >>> can you enlighten me on this? > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> Adith > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, Apr > >> 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM, TW <tw853@> wrote: > >>> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > *Guruji KSK's Quotations on Karma, Destiny* > >>> > > >>> > Chances, luck or misfortune are governed by the law of Causation or Karma. > >>>>> > God is neither partial or unjust, and everything happens according to one's > >>> > action in the past birth. > >>> > > >>> > When we think we understand that the theory "Karma and Incarnation" alone > >>>>> > can convince.--- what we have to enjoy is undoubtedly predestined. I cannot > >>> > understand how the judgment of God can be, in any manner, modified or > >>> > nullified by our efforts.--- > >>> > > >>>>> > Everything is predestined. ---None can dodge fate.--- If one can change the > >>> > event by one's will, then astrology has no place. > >>> > > >>> > Karma can be divided broadly into three kinds: Dhruda (fixed) Karma that > >>>>> > one > >> has committed an inexcusable mistake or crime in the previous birth, > >>> > Dhruda - Adhruda (fixed/non-fixed) Karma that one would have committed an > >>> > excusable mistake in the previous birth, and Adhruda (non-fixed) Karma that > >>>>> > the crime committed may be negligible…The majority of people commit > >>> > excusable mistakes called Dhruda â€" Adhruda Karma. Therefore Shanti will be > >>> > done by them with or without their knowledge and they will not ultimately > >>>>> > suffer… Just like one has no choice about his birth time, place and his > >>> > parents, so also there is nothing left in one's hands. Everything is > >>> > pre-destined. None can change it. Then only one can use this > >>>>> > science…Astrology is a science. It needs further research and confirmation. > >>> > There is no use for the word "Likely". Everything is a certainty… It may > >>> > be said, more as a > >> compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of > >>> > his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way > >>> > directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects > >>>>> > of his Karma. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > >>> > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > >>> > > > >>>>> > > Dear Prasanna, > >>> > >                      As per K.P.,and nobody/nothing > >>> > can change human destiny/fate, once written by Brahma soon after one's > >>> > birth...your quote of Nacchiketa is of a very rare and extra-ordinary > >>>>> > case... > >>> > >                      Guruji KSK had predicted the > >>> > death of a retired senior retired Govt. Official who requested him > >>> > to predit even the Tome of his death...which the worthy disbelieved > >>>>> > totally,and in order to prov KSK wrong,made arrangements to sith in his lawn > >>> > under a Garden Umbrella with a > >> Thermos Flask full of coffee to wait out well > >>> > past the predited thr Time of Death...but alas,from the corner of his eyes > >>> > he was watching his dear grandson play on the verendah...and to his great > >>>>> > horror he saw him walking baxckwards towards the garden and to a fall on the > >>> > ground below and that too backwards... in a desperate attempt at preventing > >>> > him from walking towards his certain fall,he made a dash for him,his foot > >>>>> > got stuck in the crossbar of the easychair in which he was seated and he > >>> > fell down,hitting his head on the ston steps with a resounding thud,and he > >>> > died instantly,and to the surprise of all, the time was exactly what KSK had > >>>>> > > predicted days in advance...! > >>> > >                         The above has ben > >>> > narrated in his original Books...and prove > >> that Astroloby is a Vedanga and > >>> > is born out of the Karma Theory...what is destined WILL take place...come > >>> > what may... ! > >>> > >                         This also proves the > >>>>> > accuracy of K.P. and Krishnamurthi Ayanamsa... > >>> > >                         Another "live" proof can > >>> > be had by anyone,if he so desires : > >>> > >                         First have a Birth Chart > >>>>> > correctly cast by a K.P. Astrologer after the necessary corrections( if > >>> > needed),are made... > >>> > >                         Then,pl. note the exact > >>> > time at which one gets a cut or has a fall with blood oozing out of the > >>>>> > wound... > >>> > >     > >>                     To your great chagrin, > >>> > the sublords of the IVth,VIIIth & XIIth cusps,will be the Dasa/Bhukti/ Anthra > >>> > lords of the persons Dasa running at the time... ! > >>>>> > >                         Pl. check and > >>> > inform,this is a "love" proof...what more is required ? > >>> > >                         With best wishes, > >>>>> > >                         Yogesh Lajmi. > >>> > >                       > >>> > >                 > >>> > > > >>> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ wrote: > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > prasanna acharya > >> prasanna_ppl@ > >>> > > >>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >>> > > @gro ups.com > >> > >>> > > Cc: ssagar86@ > >>> > > >>> > > Received: Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 6:48 PM > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Respected sagarji, > >>> > > your views seem to be fatalistic. Human life is just a tiny part of this > >>> > vast BRAMHANDA.So many factors effect human life that it is not possible to > >>>>> > predict what will happen in future. Astrologers can only in some way study > >>> > the trend or tendencies.With the gene therapy even diffective genes can be > >>> > replaced, which instigates people to go for wrong action causing wrong > >>>>> > result. It is said person doing PAPA will get his due result in this KALI > >>> > ERA itself. Instances may be found where even Prarabdha was changed. > >> Story > >>> > of NACHIKETA is known to all. Story of SAVITRI is also known to all. It > >>> > depends on the person who has been sufferring. In fact in KALI ERA people > >>> > do not have patience or faith that mountains can be moved.Hence no serious > >>>>> > effort is done to change the destiny. Hence with all due respect to you > >>> > please give your opinion in this regard. > >>> > >  > >>> > > Prasanna > >>> > >  > >>> > > >>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> > >>>>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >>> > > @gro ups.com > >>> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 8:17 PM > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Dear Friends, > >>> > > > >>> > > ASTROLOGER TELLS WHAT MAY HAPPEN, BUT GOD ONLY CAN TELL WHAT EXACTLY WILL > >>>>> > HAPPEN. > >>> > > > >>> > > Naidu KP > >>> > > > >>> > > K. P. Naidu, > >>> > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > >>> > > Nowroji Road, > >>> > > Maharanipeta, > >>>>> > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > >>> > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > >>> > > > >>> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > >>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >>>>> > > @gro ups.com > >>> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 12:03 AM > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Dear Adith > >>> > > MY first conference attend in Feb 1989 at Cuttack. > >>> > > i have presented three papers and speak on one important subject called " > >>>>> > Everything is predestined and no one can change or alter it , even the > >>> > Creator lord Brahma" > >>> > > We astrologers can predict the events what will happen, neither we can > >>> > change or alter it. > >>>>> > > I have quoted " yatha raja , tatha praja" likewise "yatha graha tatha > >>> > phala". > >>> > > Almost > >> all astrologer appreciated my speech, later Mr.Subramaniam asked > >>> > me " ur speech truly marvelous, but can u answer for one doubt" can u run in > >>> > a front of running vehicle by assuming that everything predestined" > >>>>> > > my answer was " if my fate is predestined to met with accident i will run > >>> > in front of a running bus, if my fate is not predestined for accident even > >>> > though i run in front of a running bus , driver will try to rescue me and he > >>>>> > will turn his vehicle which will kill some which has predestined is one > >>> > thing on the other hand my mind will not permit me to run in front of > >>> > running bus". > >>> > > All astrologers are only a reader what will happen in the future. > >>>>> > > in fact i wont match guna kuta , i will match the girl and boy chart > >>> > weather their marriage has predestined or not. > >>> > > I use to predict > >> few points of the girl/boy as per their charts.It > >>> > happened too. > >>> > > Regards > >>> > > Sahhasra Saagara > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Senthil athi_ram > > >>> > > @gro ups.com > >>>>> > > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:58:28 PM > >>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Dear Adith, > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>> > > > >>> > > Suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with > >>>>> > their > >> son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an > >>> > astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is > >>> > no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. So what is > >>>>> > the use for matching the charts? Actually you have to find firstly whether > >>> > as per his destiny his Girl’s chart is available among the 10 charts are > >>> > not? If yes, that is it else ask them to bring any other set of charts to > >>>>> > find his Girl (written as per his destiny) that is all. I have written an > >>> > article based on my past failure case (job offers) regarding â€Å"which > >>> > company he will join?†in KP annual number 2010 you may refer it. > >>>>> > > > >>> > >  > >>> > > > >>> > > Also during my study on Driving license one of the person who failed in > >>> > the 1st road test asked me the following > >> (refer Quiz-8). He was ready to > >>> > attend ONLY ON TEST (no more test & the person was having urge etc.) which > >>> > he should get PASS. Now you have to tell which date/time he should attend > >>> > the test so that he will get pass on that day/time. You have to guarantee > >>>>> > that he will get appointment on that date/time (there is a chance he can > >>> > purposely get appointment for some other date/time or the date may be > >>> > already booked by many candidate and full etc), the test should be conducted > >>>>> > on that date/time (it should not be declared holiday or cancelled due to any > >>> > reason etc) and also he should attend the test on that date/time without > >>> > fail (not absent due to any reasons or there is a chance he can purposely > >>>>> > not to attend test on that date/time etc) and he should get PASS. > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>> > > > >>> > >> > > Are you ready to give all the above correct? Any one failure is > >>> > sufficient to say that our prediction is WRONG. > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>> > > > >>> > > So what is our (astrologer’s) role? I personally believe that we are > >>>>> > the tools through us some message is passed on the native/quarent that is > >>> > it. > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>> > > The above are my personal views and not to criticize you or anybody. > >>>>> > >  > >>> > > GOOD LUCK!! > >>> > >  > >>> > > D.Senthil > >>> > >  > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > >>>>> > wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > >>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >>>>> > > @gro ups.com > >>> > > Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:49 AM > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>>>> > > > >>> > > Dear Sagar ji, > >>> > > > >>> > > I accept your points. . But if it is destined, whats the role of > >>> > Astrologer in matching? Why should we match? > >>> > > > >>>>> > > Does any astrologer play role in fixing the match ? or helping to find > >>> > the best match? > >>> > > > >>> > > I hope there must some logic behind in our old says.. > >>> > > > >>>>> > > As per the Astrologers guidelines if anyone follows, the incidents can > >>> > not be stopped but the impact can be > >> reduced. Similarly, in a chart if he > >>> > has a poor significations for a happy marital life, if he is marched to a > >>> > better one, there wont be permanent separation but misunderstanding or > >>> > temporary separation during the unfavorable period. > >>>>> > > Pls give your views on the above. > >>> > > > >>> > > With Regards > >>> > > Adith > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Hi > >>> > > neither guna nor kuta will helpful in matching of boy-girl horoscope as > >>>>> > it is predestined and he/she should get marry what has already destined in > >>> > their > >> charts. > >>> > > i remember one girl chart in which i had predicted short marital life > >>> > as well as i had predicted diseases of her husband by anlysing her chart. > >>> > Later girl married and lead marital life for few years and her faced health > >>>>> > problem resulted in his death. > >>> > > >>> > > both in hindu predictive as well as in kp for marital life some > >>> > combination and significance has given. > >>> > > Regards > >>> > > Sahhasra Saagara > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > > >>>>> > > > >>> > > @gro ups.com > >>> > > > >>> > > Cc: Wyomesh wyomeshd > > >>> > >> > > Thu, 8 April, 2010 8:14:18 PM > >>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Dear Wyomesh, > >>> > >                       Yoni Guna has been taken > >>> > care of in KPDP, for your information, under compatibility. ..! > >>>>> > >                        With best wishes, > >>> > >                       Yogesh Lajmi. > >>> > > >>> > > > >>> > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, Wyomesh wyomeshd > wrote: > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Wyomesh wyomeshd > > >>> > > Subject: > >> Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >>> > > @gro ups.com > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Received: Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 1:59 PM > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Hello > >>> > > > >>> > > I would like to add here something... . > >>> > > It is very important to see YONI GUNA. Suppose male YONI is GAU (cow) > >>>>> > > and Female's Yoni is VYAGHRA ( LION)... Both are hard enemies. So, Even > >>> > on matching perfect can not give satisfactory married life. > >>> > > > >>> > > So we should always look for traditional rules with KP. > >>>>> > > > >>> > > Thank you > >>> > > > >>> > > @gro ups.com, "kadavasalramani" <kadavasalramani@ > wrote: > >>>>> > > > > >>> > > > Dear Sri Adithj, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of > >>> > late Guruji, Sri KSK. > >>> > > > It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified > >>>>> > according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for matching > >>> > the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. In > >>> > this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple will > >>>>> > lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this there is > >>> > no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, Saturn > >>> > Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes > >>>>> > according to KP system. > >>> > > > >> > > >>> > > > Regards, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > K.S.V.Ramani > >>> > > > - > >>> > > > adith kasinath.g.k > >>> > > > @gro ups.com > >>>>> > > > Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM > >>> > > > KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Dear friends, > >>>>> > > > > >>> > > > Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed in > >>> > the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.? > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom? > >>>>> > > > > >>> > > > I hope this is being given in some sw. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > I will > >> be obliged to get these details > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Thanks and Regards > >>> > > > Adith > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > >>>>> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > >>> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > >>>>> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > >>> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > >>>>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Dear TW, You do not seem to have read Reader IV,at all... ! Pl. refer Reader IV,Pp. 17-42. Kindly read the above carefully. Yogesh Lajmi. GOOD LUCK ! --- On Mon, 19/4/10, TW <tw853 wrote: TW <tw853 Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching Received: Monday, 19 April, 2010, 11:49 AM Dear Friends,Where in KP such kinds of combination have the place to follow? KP reference? KP rationale?Thanks and regards,TWWhereas,if the setup of the sublords of the houses IV,VIII & XII are set up as follows : Venus-Saturn- VenusVenus-Merc-VenusMoon-Sun-MoonMoon-Mars-MoonSat-Merc-Saturnsuch a Jatak will never suffer even a small scratch in his entire lifetime...!@gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Adith,>                Could you please send me the charts where this rule has failed...because in actual practice it is in extremely rare cases that one among these combinations are found to exist...!>                With kind regards,>                Yogesh Lajmi.> > --- On Fri, 16/4/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ ...> wrote:> > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ ...>> Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> "Yogesh Lajmi" <yogeshlajmi@ ...>> Received: Friday, 16 April, 2010, 3:42 PM> > > Dear Yogesh ji,> > I agree with your points.> > But I am doubtful about the possibility of NO ACCIDENT in one's life time due to the said combination.> We have to study a lot. I remeber I tried to apply to few cases, I failed. > > With Regards> Adith  > > > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Senthil,>                  If one was destined to suffer a bad injury in an accident,he would have forgotten to wear a helmet,or he would have suffered severe injuries,despite his wearing a helmet... that is how destiny operates...( Karma in action...).>  >                  One can explain why one is lucky not to have a single accident in his entire life,only by K.P. Principles.. .>  >                  If the Vimshottari Dasa period running is ruled by the s/lords of the cusps of IV,VIII & XII,one will surely meet with an accident...>  >                 Whereas,if the setup of the sublords of the houses IV,VIII & XII are set up as follows : >                           Venus-Saturn- Venus>                           Venus-Merc-Venus>                           Moon-Sun-Moon>                           Moon-Mars-Moon>                          Sat-Merc-Saturn>                  such a Jatak will never suffer even a small scratch in his entire lifetime...!>  >                 Also, a careful in-depth examination of the s/l of the Ascendant can reveal ones Destiny...Long/ Short Life,Rich/Poor, Healthy/Sickly and so on...as was decided by Bramha soon after one's Birth...>                 >                  And so on...Krishnamurthi Padhdhati, has so many wonderful possibilities. ..! ! >  >                 An indepth study of K.P., patiently and carefully,will surely help dizcover these possibilities. ..>  >                 With the very best wishes,>                 Yogesh Lajmi.>                                           GOOD LUCK ! > >                 >  > > --- On Fri, 16/4/10, Senthil <athi_ram@.. .> wrote:> > > > Senthil <athi_ram@.. .>> > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> @gro ups.com> Received: Friday, 16 April, 2010, 12:58 AM> > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Adith,> > //> If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope. There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. > > Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control?> //> >  > > As per my view if the person has to meet with an accident in a particular moment but no death is indicated that is including DBA as well as transit don't signify/agree for death(badaka/ maraka etc) then some how he/she will escape by wearing helmet or without Helmet. I have explained few months back in this forum. During my advanced astrology study time (may be year 2000) one accident case chat was discussed in the class who didn’t die but went to coma stage. >  > > Similarly, suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. Due to some reason they may ignore or misguided by some other astrologer/somebody etc and finally they may not be going for the marriage with girl you have suggested as THE BEST MATCH.(Hope this may be happening for most Astrologers too.) > >  > So as an astrologer what are you controlling here? I believe that you are doing you own karma only (say astrologer work/duty)>  > Hope you can understand it now and the above are my personal views only.> >  > GOOD LUCK!!>  > D.Senthil> > >  > > --- On Wed, 4/14/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> @gro ups.com> > > > Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 7:25 PM> > >  > > Dear Suna ji,> > Thanks for your valuable explanation.> So kind of you.> > You mean to say that one will be free to do according to the present sources available or the effort he himself takes to do it. I agree with this to a great extent. But if he is not destined astrologically, he may not succeed in his effort.> > For instance, a boy if he tries hard to get score , he can not if his chart and periods do not support. > > But as you said, I agree as follows:> > For instance, if one takes up his decision to do or no to a work according to his own thought or by some one's advice, his current deeds are controlled .He may escape from doing a wrong deed as per the past Karma.> > When no vehicles were invented, if a man those days has the significations of 4,11 he will get a cart or similar to that. After the inventions of the Vehicles, one will get the bike or car etc.,. It means one could be influenced with the present available sources. Similarly, one will do his deeds according to his present situation and his mind set and effort. If he is a person with any past bitter experience in any event, business, when his similar bad time comes again, he will take his decision vary cautiously sothat the impact will be reduced , though not avoided fully. So he has the control.> > Similarly in the present life, one has good contacts with gurus, good astrologers, well wishers , even a person with bad characters is guided properly and does some good deeds. > In those days, in a joint family where there will be a Head (very old experienced person) who will lead the total family members. Everyone has to act according to his advice only. There the percentage of failures, wrong deeds were greatly reduced. Though one of the family member who has the tendency to do bad events will be under control. But once that Head passes away, the total family is collapsed and splitted. Then as there is no guidance, they act act as per the destiny without any control and face the troubles accordingly.> > If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope.> There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. > > Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control?> > The above are my personal points only.> > Your valuable inputs are welcome, as you are all much experienced person.> > Thanks and REgards> Adith    > > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote:> > >  > > > > > Dear Adith ji,> > I also wish to add some ideas for your doubt on Kamma.> > > If a person had done any good deeds or bad deeds in his previous birth, and if he has not finished his Karma for rebirth, he may receive passport to the next birth. Sometimes he might have low marks in his last examination in his previous birth, but enough level for a pass, he may come back to the universe to complete his lost subject and for high marks to finish his journey of life. So everyone must understand this fact of completing his weak subjects and get the highest mark rate for a pass.>  > This is a very simple interpretation of Kamma.>  > If a man climbs to the third floor of a building, it is undeniable true that his arriving to third floor is a result of his past action (Kamma) that is, WALKING up the stairs. And having arrived there, it is impossible for him to reach out and touch the ground with his hand, or drive a car up and down there. Obviously this is because he has gone up to the third floor. Or, having arrived at the third floor, whether he is too exhausted to continue is also related to having walked up the stairs. His arrival there, the things he is able to do there and the situation he is likely to encounter, are all certainly related to the OLD KAMMA of having walked up the stairs. But exactly which action he will perform, his reactions to the situations which arise there, whether he will take a rest, walk on, or walk back down the stairs and out of that building, are all matters which he can decide for himself in that PRESENT moment, for which he will also reap the> results. Even though the action of walking up the stairs may still be influencing him (for example, with his strength sapped he may be unable to function efficiently in any given situation), whether he decides to give in to that tiredness or try to overcome it, are all matters which he can decide for himself in the present moment.> > > > Therefore OLD KAMMA should be understood in its relation to the whole cause and effect process. In terms of ethical practice, to understand the cause and effect process is to be able to learn from Old Kamma, understanding the situation at hand, and to skillfully make a plan of action for improving and correcting the future.> > > >  > Kalyan> >  > > > > > > > > TW <tw853 > > > @gro ups.com> Wed, 14 April, 2010 9:06:02 AM> Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> >  > > > Dear Adith ji,> 1. Everything in one's life may be said as predestined at the moment of birth by past karma for the possibility of cent percent accuracy in the astrological prediction which is not the case in practice. Because please note "it may be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects of his Karma."> 2. "If the present life is totally conditioned or wholly controlled by our past actions, then certainly Karma is tantamount to fatalism or determinism or predestination. If this were true, free will would be an absurdity. Life would be purely mechanistic, not much different from a machine. Such a fatalistic doctrine is not the Buddhist law of Karma…Karma does not necessarily mean past actions. It embraces both past and present deeds. Hence in one sense, we are the result of what we were; we will be the result of what we are… The inequality that exists among mankind is the result of our own past actions and our own present doings (esp viriya 'effort' and panna 'wisdom'). We ourselves are responsible for our own."> -Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw (The Theory of Karma)> 3. In the Upajjhatthana Sutta (AN 5.57), the Lord Buddha states:> "I am the owner of my karma. I inherit my karma. I am born of my karma. I am related to my karma. I live supported by my karma. Whatever karma I create, whether good or evil, that I shall inherit."> Regards,> TW> > > > > @gro ups.com, "adith kasinath.g.k" <gkadithkasinath@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear TW ji,> > > > Thanks for the valuable points by our Guruji.> > > > But I ever have teh following question in mind unanswered.> > > > When all is destined in one life, he can not be responsible for his deeds in> > the present life.> > For example, if one happens to be a bad person in all activities due to his> > past bad deeds, he may not be in a position to do any good deeds in his> > present life. In this case, in his next births also we can expect him to be> > a bad human only. So how can one is expected to do any good deeds in his> > birth?> > > > can you enlighten me on this?> > > > Regards> > Adith> > > > > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM, TW <tw853@> wrote:> > > > >> > >> > > *Guruji KSK's Quotations on Karma, Destiny*> > >> > > Chances, luck or misfortune are governed by the law of Causation or Karma.> > > God is neither partial or unjust, and everything happens according to one's> > > action in the past birth.> > >> > > When we think we understand that the theory "Karma and Incarnation" alone> > > can convince.--- what we have to enjoy is undoubtedly predestined. I cannot> > > understand how the judgment of God can be, in any manner, modified or> > > nullified by our efforts.---> > >> > > Everything is predestined. ---None can dodge fate.--- If one can change the> > > event by one's will, then astrology has no place.> > >> > > Karma can be divided broadly into three kinds: Dhruda (fixed) Karma that> > > one has committed an inexcusable mistake or crime in the previous birth,> > > Dhruda - Adhruda (fixed/non-fixed) Karma that one would have committed an> > > excusable mistake in the previous birth, and Adhruda (non-fixed) Karma that> > > the crime committed may be negligible…The majority of people commit> > > excusable mistakes called Dhruda â€" Adhruda Karma. Therefore Shanti will be> > > done by them with or without their knowledge and they will not ultimately> > > suffer… Just like one has no choice about his birth time, place and his> > > parents, so also there is nothing left in one's hands. Everything is> > > pre-destined. None can change it. Then only one can use this> > > science…Astrology is a science. It needs further research and confirmation.> > > There is no use for the word "Likely". Everything is a certainty… It may> > > be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of> > > his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way> > > directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects> > > of his Karma.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Prasanna,> > > >                      As per K.P.,and nobody/nothing> > > can change human destiny/fate, once written by Brahma soon after one's> > > birth...your quote of Nacchiketa is of a very rare and extra-ordinary> > > case...> > > >                      Guruji KSK had predicted the> > > death of a retired senior retired Govt. Official who requested him> > > to predit even the Tome of his death...which the worthy disbelieved> > > totally,and in order to prov KSK wrong,made arrangements to sith in his lawn> > > under a Garden Umbrella with a Thermos Flask full of coffee to wait out well> > > past the predited thr Time of Death...but alas,from the corner of his eyes> > > he was watching his dear grandson play on the verendah...and to his great> > > horror he saw him walking baxckwards towards the garden and to a fall on the> > > ground below and that too backwards... in a desperate attempt at preventing> > > him from walking towards his certain fall,he made a dash for him,his foot> > > got stuck in the crossbar of the easychair in which he was seated and he> > > fell down,hitting his head on the ston steps with a resounding thud,and he> > > died instantly,and to the surprise of all, the time was exactly what KSK had> > > > predicted days in advance...!> > > >                         The above has ben> > > narrated in his original Books...and prove that Astroloby is a Vedanga and> > > is born out of the Karma Theory...what is destined WILL take place...come> > > what may... !> > > >                         This also proves the> > > accuracy of K.P. and Krishnamurthi Ayanamsa...> > > >                         Another "live" proof can> > > be had by anyone,if he so desires :> > > >                         First have a Birth Chart> > > correctly cast by a K.P. Astrologer after the necessary corrections( if> > > needed),are made...> > > >                         Then,pl. note the exact> > > time at which one gets a cut or has a fall with blood oozing out of the> > > wound...> > > >                         To your great chagrin,> > > the sublords of the IVth,VIIIth & XIIth cusps,will be the Dasa/Bhukti/ Anthra> > > lords of the persons Dasa running at the time... !> > > >                         Pl. check and> > > inform,this is a "love" proof...what more is required ?> > > >                         With best wishes,> > > >                         Yogesh Lajmi.> > > >                      Â> > > >                Â> > > >> > > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@> > >> > > > Subject: Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > Cc: ssagar86@> > >> > > > Received: Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 6:48 PM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Respected sagarji,> > > > your views seem to be fatalistic. Human life is just a tiny part of this> > > vast BRAMHANDA.So many factors effect human life that it is not possible to> > > predict what will happen in future. Astrologers can only in some way study> > > the trend or tendencies.With the gene therapy even diffective genes can be> > > replaced, which instigates people to go for wrong action causing wrong> > > result. It is said person doing PAPA will get his due result in this KALI> > > ERA itself. Instances may be found where even Prarabdha was changed. Story> > > of NACHIKETA is known to all. Story of SAVITRI is also known to all. It> > > depends on the person who has been sufferring. In fact in KALI ERA people> > > do not have patience or faith that mountains can be moved.Hence no serious> > > effort is done to change the destiny. Hence with all due respect to you> > > please give your opinion in this regard.> > > > Â> > > > Prasanna> > > > Â> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 8:17 PM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Friends,> > > >> > > > ASTROLOGER TELLS WHAT MAY HAPPEN, BUT GOD ONLY CAN TELL WHAT EXACTLY WILL> > > HAPPEN.> > > >> > > > Naidu KP> > > >> > > > K. P. Naidu,> > > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > > > Nowroji Road,> > > > Maharanipeta,> > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > > >> > > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 12:03 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Adith> > > > MY first conference attend in Feb 1989 at Cuttack.> > > > i have presented three papers and speak on one important subject called "> > > Everything is predestined and no one can change or alter it , even the> > > Creator lord Brahma"> > > > We astrologers can predict the events what will happen, neither we can> > > change or alter it.> > > > I have quoted " yatha raja , tatha praja" likewise "yatha graha tatha> > > phala".> > > > Almost all astrologer appreciated my speech, later Mr.Subramaniam asked> > > me " ur speech truly marvelous, but can u answer for one doubt" can u run in> > > a front of running vehicle by assuming that everything predestined"> > > > my answer was " if my fate is predestined to met with accident i will run> > > in front of a running bus, if my fate is not predestined for accident even> > > though i run in front of a running bus , driver will try to rescue me and he> > > will turn his vehicle which will kill some which has predestined is one> > > thing on the other hand my mind will not permit me to run in front of> > > running bus".> > > > All astrologers are only a reader what will happen in the future.> > > > in fact i wont match guna kuta , i will match the girl and boy chart> > > weather their marriage has predestined or not.> > > > I use to predict few points of the girl/boy as per their charts.It> > > happened too.> > > > Regards> > > > Sahhasra Saagara> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Senthil athi_ram >> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:58:28 PM> > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Adith,> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > > Suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with> > > their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an> > > astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is> > > no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. So what is> > > the use for matching the charts? Actually you have to find firstly whether> > > as per his destiny his Girl’s chart is available among the 10 charts are> > > not? If yes, that is it else ask them to bring any other set of charts to> > > find his Girl (written as per his destiny) that is all. I have written an> > > article based on my past failure case (job offers) regarding â€Å"which> > > company he will join?†in KP annual number 2010 you may refer it.> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > > Also during my study on Driving license one of the person who failed in> > > the 1st road test asked me the following (refer Quiz-8). He was ready to> > > attend ONLY ON TEST (no more test & the person was having urge etc.) which> > > he should get PASS. Now you have to tell which date/time he should attend> > > the test so that he will get pass on that day/time. You have to guarantee> > > that he will get appointment on that date/time (there is a chance he can> > > purposely get appointment for some other date/time or the date may be> > > already booked by many candidate and full etc), the test should be conducted> > > on that date/time (it should not be declared holiday or cancelled due to any> > > reason etc) and also he should attend the test on that date/time without> > > fail (not absent due to any reasons or there is a chance he can purposely> > > not to attend test on that date/time etc) and he should get PASS.> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > > Are you ready to give all the above correct? Any one failure is> > > sufficient to say that our prediction is WRONG.> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > > So what is our (astrologer’s) role? I personally believe that we are> > > the tools through us some message is passed on the native/quarent that is> > > it.> > > >> > > > Â> > > > The above are my personal views and not to criticize you or anybody.> > > > Â> > > > GOOD LUCK!!> > > > Â> > > > D.Senthil> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:49 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > > Dear Sagar ji,> > > >> > > > I accept your points. . But if it is destined, whats the role of> > > Astrologer in matching? Why should we match?> > > >> > > > Does any astrologer play role in fixing the match ? or helping to find> > > the best match?> > > >> > > > I hope there must some logic behind in our old says..> > > >> > > > As per the Astrologers guidelines if anyone follows, the incidents can> > > not be stopped but the impact can be reduced. Similarly, in a chart if he> > > has a poor significations for a happy marital life, if he is marched to a> > > better one, there wont be permanent separation but misunderstanding or> > > temporary separation during the unfavorable period.> > > > Pls give your views on the above.> > > >> > > > With Regards> > > > Adith> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Hi> > > > neither guna nor kuta will helpful in matching of boy-girl horoscope as> > > it is predestined and he/she should get marry what has already destined in> > > their charts.> > > > i remember one girl chart in which i had predicted short marital life> > > as well as i had predicted diseases of her husband by anlysing her chart.> > > Later girl married and lead marital life for few years and her faced health> > > problem resulted in his death.> > >> > > > both in hindu predictive as well as in kp for marital life some> > > combination and significance has given.> > > > Regards> > > > Sahhasra Saagara> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com> > > >> > > > Cc: Wyomesh wyomeshd >> > > > Thu, 8 April, 2010 8:14:18 PM> > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Wyomesh,> > > >                       Yoni Guna has been taken> > > care of in KPDP, for your information, under compatibility. ..!> > > >                        With best wishes,> > > >                       Yogesh Lajmi.> > >> > > >> > > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, Wyomesh wyomeshd > wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Wyomesh wyomeshd >> > > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > > @gro ups.com> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Received: Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 1:59 PM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > > Hello> > > >> > > > I would like to add here something... .> > > > It is very important to see YONI GUNA. Suppose male YONI is GAU (cow)> > > > and Female's Yoni is VYAGHRA ( LION)... Both are hard enemies. So, Even> > > on matching perfect can not give satisfactory married life.> > > >> > > > So we should always look for traditional rules with KP.> > > >> > > > Thank you> > > >> > > > @gro ups.com, "kadavasalramani" <kadavasalramani@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sri Adithj,> > > > >> > > > > KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of> > > late Guruji, Sri KSK.> > > > > It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified> > > according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for matching> > > the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. In> > > this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple will> > > lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this there is> > > no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, Saturn> > > Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes> > > according to KP system.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > > -> > > > > adith kasinath.g.k> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM> > > > > KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear friends,> > > > >> > > > > Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed in> > > the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.?> > > > >> > > > > Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom?> > > > >> > > > > I hope this is being given in some sw.> > > > >> > > > > I will be obliged to get these details> > > > >> > > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > > Adith> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php> > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php> > > >> > > > > >> >> > >  > > > > > > > > >  > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 Dear Sujata ji, My wishful experience is to make him marry a smart lady who can change his life style tactfully. Good luck! TW , sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote: > > Dear TWji > I was happy to see the excerpts of Tipitaka. I printed them and gave them to my son. He is lazy to his core, rude and swears. Yet he reads Dhampadha and claims to have more knowledge. > I am concerned about him. His ve is in ke star and sa in 12th. His room is dirty and his studies for IAS in dis-array. Its impossible to communicate with him. He is un-communicative. > I had asked him to improve his qualifications by joining MBA or a computer course. But he refused. > I have told him to get out but he refuses. > What shall I do ? Kindly advise > Regards > Sujata --- On Sun, 18/4/10, TW <tw853 wrote: > > TW <tw853 > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > Sunday, 18 April, 2010, 9:19 PM >  > > > We are the result of what we were, and we will be the result of what we are. Our present actions allows us to influence our future. > > > > The Buddha pointed out that if everything is determined, then there would be no free will and no moral or spiritual life; we would merely be the slaves of our past. > > > > One who understands the workings of karma is given consolation, hope, self reliance and moral courage. By understanding karma, we can use it to our tremendous advantage. It validates our effort, kindles our enthusiasm, makes us ever kind, tolerant and considerate. This understanding naturally prompts us to refrain from evil and to do good. > > > > In the Cula-kammavibhanga Sutta (MN 135), the Buddha stated: > > " ... eings are owners of kammas, heirs of kammas, they have kammas as their progenitor, kammas as their kin, kammas as their homing-place. It is kammas that differentiate beings according to inferiority and superiority. " > > > > " So ... the way that leads to short life [that is, killing others] makes people [oneself] short-lived [in ones next life], the way that leads to long life makes people long-lived; the way that leads to sickness makes people sick, the way that leads to health makes people healthy; the way that leads to ugliness makes people ugly, the way that leads to beauty makes people beautiful; the way that leads to insignificance makes people insignificant, the way that leads to influence makes people influential; the way that leads to poverty makes people poor, the way that leads to riches makes people rich; the way that leads to low birth makes people low-born, the way that leads to high birth makes people high-born; the way that leads to stupidity makes people stupid, the way that leads to wisdom makes people wise.... " > > http://www.accessto insight.org/ tipitaka/ mn/mn.135. nymo.html > > http://www.accessto insight.org/ tipitaka/ mn/mn.135. than.html > > > > @gro ups.com, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > All beings are the owners of their Kamma > > > Heirs of their Kamma > > > Born of their Kamma > > > Related to their Kamma > > > Supported by their kamma... > > > > > > Unfortunately some human beings are unable to understand this truth. > > > It is also the Kamma of their own. > > > > > > The Law of Kamma, as one of Buddhism's central themes, requires only a modicum of learning, > > > but also a good deal of Inner Reflection. > > > > > > Kalyan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ ...> > > > @gro ups.com > > > Sat, 17 April, 2010 5:38:12 PM > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > The KPDP rules sources were given in the initial replies itself. pls check it. > > > Even these rules are also to be practically experienced. > > > > > > The Karma dicussion is part of this only. If everything is destined, the role of Astrologers in following such rules in matching is of no use. So pls look into the cause of the discussion why karma is taken in this thread ! > > > > > > Hence. pls do not comment on others discussions if you do not understand or not interested. This is my humble suggestion. > > > > > > Regards > > > Adith > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:07 PM, kondapaneni suneel <ksuneel_dhama@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >Dear friends, > > > > > > > >with this head of subject ...that is kpdp rules in marriage matching...i couldnot find any of you given actual rules at all.. and all the time writing only some kamma thoeries.... > > > > > > > >please come back to astrology and produce rules to marriage matching as per kp...and how by seeing any charts of boy and girl instantly we can tell that these are born to couple together... > > > > > > > >coming back to your kamma theories.... please take your retreats first...do some years fo actual meditation ....then with practical expeirience only...you guys can have .after realisation of some final truth can discuss and teach other....not by mere referring some others works... > > > > > > > >thanking you, > > > >suniel > > > >09297102711 > > > > > > > > > > > >--- On Sat, 17/4/10, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > > > > >> > > > >>Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >> " adith kasinath.g.k " <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > > > >>Cc: @gro ups.com > > > >>>>Saturday, 17 April, 2010, 10:29 AM > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>Dear Adith, > > > >> Could you please send me the charts where this rule has failed...because in actual practice it is in extremely rare cases that one among these combinations are found to exist...! > > > >> With kind regards, > > > >> Yogesh Lajmi. > > > >> > > > >>--- On Fri, 16/4/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > > > >>>Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >>>>>> " Yogesh Lajmi " <yogeshlajmi@ > > > > >>>Received: Friday, 16 April, 2010, 3:42 PM > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>Dear Yogesh ji, > > > >>> > > > >>>I agree with your points. > > > >>> > > > >>>But I am doubtful about the possibility of NO ACCIDENT in one's life time due to the said combination. > > > >>>We have to study a lot. I remeber I tried to apply to few cases, I failed. > > > >>> > > > >>>With Regards > > > >>>Adith > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>Dear Senthil, > > > >>>> If one was destined to suffer a bad injury in an accident,he would have forgotten to wear a helmet,or he would have suffered severe injuries,despite his wearing a helmet... that is how destiny operates...( Karma in action...). > > > >>>> > > > >>>> One can explain why one is lucky not to have a single accident in his entire life,only by K.P. Principles.. . > > > >>>> > > > >>>> If the Vimshottari Dasa period running is ruled by the s/lords of the cusps of IV,VIII & XII,one will surely meet with an accident... > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Whereas,if the setup of the sublords of the houses IV,VIII & XII are set up as follows : > > > >>>> Venus-Saturn- Venus > > > >>>> Venus-Merc-Venus > > > >>>> Moon-Sun-Moon > > > >>>> Moon-Mars-Moon > > > >>>> Sat-Merc-Saturn > > > >>>> such a Jatak will never suffer even a small scratch in his entire lifetime...! > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Also, a careful in-depth examination of the s/l of the Ascendant can reveal ones Destiny...Long/ Short Life,Rich/Poor, Healthy/Sickly and so on...as was decided by Bramha soon after one's Birth... > > > >>>> > > > >>>> And so on...Krishnamurthi Padhdhati, has so many wonderful possibilities. ..! ! > > > >>>> > > > >>>> An indepth study of K.P., patiently and carefully,will surely help dizcover these possibilities. .. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> With the very best wishes, > > > >>>> Yogesh Lajmi. > > > >>>> GOOD LUCK ! > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>>--- On Fri, 16/4/10, Senthil <athi_ram > wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>>>Senthil <athi_ram > > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >>>>>@gro ups.com > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>Received: Friday, 16 April, 2010, 12:58 AM > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>Dear Adith, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>// > > > >>>>>If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope. There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control? > > > >>>>>// > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>As per my view if the person has to meet with an accident in a particular moment but no death is indicated that is including DBA as well as transit don't signify/agree for death(badaka/ maraka etc) then some how he/she will escape by wearing helmet or without Helmet. I have explained few months back in this forum. During my advanced astrology study time (may be year 2000) one accident case chat was discussed in the class who didn’t die but went to coma stage. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>Similarly, suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. Due to some reason they may ignore or misguided by some other astrologer/somebody etc and finally they may not be going for the marriage with girl you have suggested as THE BEST MATCH.(Hope this may be happening for most Astrologers too.) > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>So as an astrologer what are you controlling here? I believe that you are doing you own karma only (say astrologer work/duty) > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>Hope you can understand it now and the above are my personal views only. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>GOOD LUCK!! > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>D.Senthil > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>--- On Wed, 4/14/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > > > >>>>>>Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >>>>>>@gro ups.com > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 7:25 PM > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>Dear Suna ji, > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>Thanks for your valuable explanation. > > > >>>>>>So kind of you. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>You mean to say that one will be free to do according to the present sources available or the effort he himself takes to do it. I agree with this to a great extent. But if he is not destined astrologically, he may not succeed in his effort. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>For instance, a boy if he tries hard to get score , he can not if his chart and periods do not support. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>But as you said, I agree as follows: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>For instance, if one takes up his decision to do or no to a work according to his own thought or by some one's advice, his current deeds are controlled .He may escape from doing a wrong deed as per the past Karma. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>When no vehicles were invented, if a man those days has the significations of 4,11 he will get a cart or similar to that. After the inventions of the Vehicles, one will get the bike or car etc.,. It means one could be influenced with the present > > > >>>>>> available sources. Similarly, one will do his deeds according to his present situation and his mind set and effort. If he is a person with any past bitter experience in any event, business, when his similar bad time comes again, he will take his decision vary cautiously sothat the impact will be reduced , though not avoided fully. So he has the control. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>Similarly in the present life, one has good contacts with gurus, good astrologers, well wishers , even a person with bad characters is guided properly and does some good deeds. > > > >>>>>>In those days, in a joint family where there will be a Head (very old experienced person) who will lead the total family members. Everyone has to act according to his advice only. There the percentage of failures, wrong deeds were greatly reduced. Though one of the family member who has the tendency to do bad events will be under control. But once that Head passes away, the total family is collapsed and splitted. Then > > > >>>>>> as there is no guidance, they act act as per the destiny without any control and face the troubles accordingly. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>The above are my personal points only. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>Your valuable inputs are welcome, as you are all much experienced person. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>Thanks and REgards > > > >>>>>>Adith > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>Dear Adith ji, > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>I also wish to add some ideas for your doubt on Kamma. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>If a person had done any good deeds or bad deeds in his previous birth, and if he has not finished his Karma for rebirth, he may receive passport to the next birth. Sometimes he might have low marks in his last examination in his previous birth, but enough level for a pass, he may come back to the universe to complete his lost subject and for high marks to finish his journey of life. So everyone must understand this fact of completing his weak subjects and get the highest mark rate for a pass. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>This is a very simple interpretation of Kamma. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>If a man climbs to the third floor of a building, it is undeniable true that his arriving to third floor is a result of his past action (Kamma) that is, WALKING up the stairs. And having arrived there, it is impossible for him to reach out and touch the ground with his hand, or drive a car up and down there. Obviously this is because he has gone up to the third floor. Or, having arrived at the third floor, whether he is too exhausted to continue is also related to having walked up the stairs. His arrival there, the things he is able to do there and the situation he is likely to encounter, are all certainly related to the OLD KAMMA of having walked up the stairs. But exactly which action he will perform, his reactions to the situations which arise there, whether he will take a rest, walk on, or walk back down the stairs and out of that building, are all matters which he can decide for himself in > > > >> that PRESENT moment, for which he will also reap the results. Even though the action of walking up the stairs may still be influencing him (for example, with his strength sapped he may be unable to function efficiently in any given situation), whether he decides to give in to that tiredness or try to overcome it, are all matters which he can decide for himself in the present moment. > > > >> > > > >>Therefore OLD KAMMA should be understood in its relation to the whole cause and effect process. In terms of ethical practice, to understand the cause and effect process is to be able to learn from Old Kamma, understanding the situation at hand, and to skillfully make a plan of action for improving and correcting the future. > > > >> > > > >>Kalyan > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > TW <tw853 > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>@gro ups.com > > > >>Wed, 14 April, 2010 9:06:02 AM > > > >> Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>Dear Adith ji, > > > >>1. Everything in one's life may be said as predestined at the moment of birth by past karma for the possibility of cent percent accuracy in the astrological prediction which is not the case in practice. Because please note " it may be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects of his Karma. " > > > >>>>2. " If the present life is totally conditioned or wholly controlled by our past actions, then certainly Karma is tantamount to fatalism or determinism or predestination. If this were true, free will would be an absurdity. Life would be purely mechanistic, not much different from a machine. Such a fatalistic doctrine is not the Buddhist law of Karma…Karma does not necessarily mean past actions. It embraces both past and present deeds. Hence in one sense, we are > > > >> the result of what we were; we will be the result of what we are… The inequality that exists among mankind is the result of our own past actions and our own present doings (esp viriya 'effort' and panna 'wisdom'). We ourselves are responsible for our own. " > > > >>>>-Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw (The Theory of Karma) > > > >>3. In the Upajjhatthana Sutta (AN 5.57), the Lord Buddha states: > > > >> " I am the owner of my karma. I inherit my karma. I am born of my karma. I am related to my karma. I live supported by my karma. Whatever karma I create, whether good or evil, that I shall inherit. " > > > >>>>Regards, > > > >>TW > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>@gro ups.com, " adith kasinath.g.k " <gkadithkasinath@ ....> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>> Dear TW ji, > > > >>> > > > >>> Thanks for the valuable points by our Guruji. > > > >>> > > > >>> But I ever have teh following question in mind unanswered. > > > >>> > > > >>> When all is destined in one life, he can not be responsible for his deeds in > > > >>>>> the present life. > > > >>> For example, if one happens to be a bad person in all activities due to his > > > >>> past bad deeds, he may not be in a position to do any good deeds in his > > > >>> present life. In this case, in his next births also we can expect him to be > > > >>>>> a bad human only. So how can one is expected to do any good deeds in his > > > >>> birth? > > > >>> > > > >>> can you enlighten me on this? > > > >>> > > > >>> Regards > > > >>> Adith > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> On Tue, Apr > > > >> 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM, TW <tw853@> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > *Guruji KSK's Quotations on Karma, Destiny* > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Chances, luck or misfortune are governed by the law of Causation or Karma. > > > >>>>> > God is neither partial or unjust, and everything happens according to one's > > > >>> > action in the past birth. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > When we think we understand that the theory " Karma and Incarnation " alone > > > >>>>> > can convince.--- what we have to enjoy is undoubtedly predestined. I cannot > > > >>> > understand how the judgment of God can be, in any manner, modified or > > > >>> > nullified by our efforts.--- > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> > Everything is predestined. ---None can dodge fate.--- If one can change the > > > >>> > event by one's will, then astrology has no place. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Karma can be divided broadly into three kinds: Dhruda (fixed) Karma that > > > >>>>> > one > > > >> has committed an inexcusable mistake or crime in the previous birth, > > > >>> > Dhruda - Adhruda (fixed/non-fixed) Karma that one would have committed an > > > >>> > excusable mistake in the previous birth, and Adhruda (non-fixed) Karma that > > > >>>>> > the crime committed may be negligible…The majority of people commit > > > >>> > excusable mistakes called Dhruda †" Adhruda Karma. Therefore Shanti will be > > > >>> > done by them with or without their knowledge and they will not ultimately > > > >>>>> > suffer… Just like one has no choice about his birth time, place and his > > > >>> > parents, so also there is nothing left in one's hands. Everything is > > > >>> > pre-destined. None can change it. Then only one can use this > > > >>>>> > science…Astrology is a science. It needs further research and confirmation. > > > >>> > There is no use for the word " Likely " . Everything is a certainty… It may > > > >>> > be said, more as a > > > >> compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of > > > >>> > his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way > > > >>> > directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects > > > >>>>> > of his Karma. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > >>> > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > >>>>> > > Dear Prasanna, > > > >>> > >                      As per K.P.,and nobody/nothing > > > >>> > can change human destiny/fate, once written by Brahma soon after one's > > > >>> > birth...your quote of Nacchiketa is of a very rare and extra-ordinary > > > >>>>> > case... > > > >>> > >                      Guruji KSK had predicted the > > > >>> > death of a retired senior retired Govt. Official who requested him > > > >>> > to predit even the Tome of his death...which the worthy disbelieved > > > >>>>> > totally,and in order to prov KSK wrong,made arrangements to sith in his lawn > > > >>> > under a Garden Umbrella with a > > > >> Thermos Flask full of coffee to wait out well > > > >>> > past the predited thr Time of Death...but alas,from the corner of his eyes > > > >>> > he was watching his dear grandson play on the verendah...and to his great > > > >>>>> > horror he saw him walking baxckwards towards the garden and to a fall on the > > > >>> > ground below and that too backwards... in a desperate attempt at preventing > > > >>> > him from walking towards his certain fall,he made a dash for him,his foot > > > >>>>> > got stuck in the crossbar of the easychair in which he was seated and he > > > >>> > fell down,hitting his head on the ston steps with a resounding thud,and he > > > >>> > died instantly,and to the surprise of all, the time was exactly what KSK had > > > >>>>> > > predicted days in advance...! > > > >>> > >                         The above has ben > > > >>> > narrated in his original Books...and prove > > > >> that Astroloby is a Vedanga and > > > >>> > is born out of the Karma Theory...what is destined WILL take place...come > > > >>> > what may... ! > > > >>> > >                         This also proves the > > > >>>>> > accuracy of K.P. and Krishnamurthi Ayanamsa... > > > >>> > >                         Another " live " proof can > > > >>> > be had by anyone,if he so desires : > > > >>> > >                         First have a Birth Chart > > > >>>>> > correctly cast by a K.P. Astrologer after the necessary corrections( if > > > >>> > needed),are made... > > > >>> > >                         Then,pl. note the exact > > > >>> > time at which one gets a cut or has a fall with blood oozing out of the > > > >>>>> > wound... > > > >>> > >     > > > >>                     To your great chagrin, > > > >>> > the sublords of the IVth,VIIIth & XIIth cusps,will be the Dasa/Bhukti/ Anthra > > > >>> > lords of the persons Dasa running at the time... ! > > > >>>>> > >                         Pl. check and > > > >>> > inform,this is a " love " proof...what more is required ? > > > >>> > >                         With best wishes, > > > >>>>> > >                         Yogesh Lajmi. > > > >>> > >                       > > > >>> > >                 > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > prasanna acharya > > > >> prasanna_ppl@ > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >>> > > @gro ups.com > > > >> > > > >>> > > Cc: ssagar86@ > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Received: Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 6:48 PM > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > >  > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > Respected sagarji, > > > >>> > > your views seem to be fatalistic. Human life is just a tiny part of this > > > >>> > vast BRAMHANDA.So many factors effect human life that it is not possible to > > > >>>>> > predict what will happen in future. Astrologers can only in some way study > > > >>> > the trend or tendencies.With the gene therapy even diffective genes can be > > > >>> > replaced, which instigates people to go for wrong action causing wrong > > > >>>>> > result. It is said person doing PAPA will get his due result in this KALI > > > >>> > ERA itself. Instances may be found where even Prarabdha was changed. > > > >> Story > > > >>> > of NACHIKETA is known to all. Story of SAVITRI is also known to all. It > > > >>> > depends on the person who has been sufferring. In fact in KALI ERA people > > > >>> > do not have patience or faith that mountains can be moved.Hence no serious > > > >>>>> > effort is done to change the destiny. Hence with all due respect to you > > > >>> > please give your opinion in this regard. > > > >>> > >  > > > >>> > > Prasanna > > > >>> > >  > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > >>>>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >>> > > @gro ups.com > > > >>> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 8:17 PM > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > >  > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > Dear Friends, > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > ASTROLOGER TELLS WHAT MAY HAPPEN, BUT GOD ONLY CAN TELL WHAT EXACTLY WILL > > > >>>>> > HAPPEN. > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > Naidu KP > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > K. P. Naidu, > > > >>> > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > > >>> > > Nowroji Road, > > > >>> > > Maharanipeta, > > > >>>>> > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > > >>> > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > >>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >>>>> > > @gro ups.com > > > >>> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 12:03 AM > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > >  > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > Dear Adith > > > >>> > > MY first conference attend in Feb 1989 at Cuttack. > > > >>> > > i have presented three papers and speak on one important subject called " > > > >>>>> > Everything is predestined and no one can change or alter it , even the > > > >>> > Creator lord Brahma " > > > >>> > > We astrologers can predict the events what will happen, neither we can > > > >>> > change or alter it. > > > >>>>> > > I have quoted " yatha raja , tatha praja " likewise " yatha graha tatha > > > >>> > phala " . > > > >>> > > Almost > > > >> all astrologer appreciated my speech, later Mr.Subramaniam asked > > > >>> > me " ur speech truly marvelous, but can u answer for one doubt " can u run in > > > >>> > a front of running vehicle by assuming that everything predestined " > > > >>>>> > > my answer was " if my fate is predestined to met with accident i will run > > > >>> > in front of a running bus, if my fate is not predestined for accident even > > > >>> > though i run in front of a running bus , driver will try to rescue me and he > > > >>>>> > will turn his vehicle which will kill some which has predestined is one > > > >>> > thing on the other hand my mind will not permit me to run in front of > > > >>> > running bus " . > > > >>> > > All astrologers are only a reader what will happen in the future. > > > >>>>> > > in fact i wont match guna kuta , i will match the girl and boy chart > > > >>> > weather their marriage has predestined or not. > > > >>> > > I use to predict > > > >> few points of the girl/boy as per their charts.It > > > >>> > happened too. > > > >>> > > Regards > > > >>> > > Sahhasra Saagara > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > Senthil athi_ram > > > > >>> > > @gro ups.com > > > >>>>> > > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:58:28 PM > > > >>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > >  > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > Dear Adith, > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > >  > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > Suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with > > > >>>>> > their > > > >> son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an > > > >>> > astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is > > > >>> > no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. So what is > > > >>>>> > the use for matching the charts? Actually you have to find firstly whether > > > >>> > as per his destiny his Girl’s chart is available among the 10 charts are > > > >>> > not? If yes, that is it else ask them to bring any other set of charts to > > > >>>>> > find his Girl (written as per his destiny) that is all. I have written an > > > >>> > article based on my past failure case (job offers) regarding  " which > > > >>> > company he will join?†in KP annual number 2010 you may refer it. > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>> > >  > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > Also during my study on Driving license one of the person who failed in > > > >>> > the 1st road test asked me the following > > > >> (refer Quiz-8). He was ready to > > > >>> > attend ONLY ON TEST (no more test & the person was having urge etc.) which > > > >>> > he should get PASS. Now you have to tell which date/time he should attend > > > >>> > the test so that he will get pass on that day/time. You have to guarantee > > > >>>>> > that he will get appointment on that date/time (there is a chance he can > > > >>> > purposely get appointment for some other date/time or the date may be > > > >>> > already booked by many candidate and full etc), the test should be conducted > > > >>>>> > on that date/time (it should not be declared holiday or cancelled due to any > > > >>> > reason etc) and also he should attend the test on that date/time without > > > >>> > fail (not absent due to any reasons or there is a chance he can purposely > > > >>>>> > not to attend test on that date/time etc) and he should get PASS. > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > >  > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > >> > > Are you ready to give all the above correct? Any one failure is > > > >>> > sufficient to say that our prediction is WRONG. > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > >  > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > So what is our (astrologer’s) role? I personally believe that we are > > > >>>>> > the tools through us some message is passed on the native/quarent that is > > > >>> > it. > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > >  > > > >>> > > The above are my personal views and not to criticize you or anybody. > > > >>>>> > >  > > > >>> > > GOOD LUCK!! > > > >>> > >  > > > >>> > > D.Senthil > > > >>> > >  > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > > > >>>>> > wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > > > >>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >>>>> > > @gro ups.com > > > >>> > > Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:49 AM > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > >  > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>> > > Dear Sagar ji, > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > I accept your points. . But if it is destined, whats the role of > > > >>> > Astrologer in matching? Why should we match? > > > >>> > > > > > >>>>> > > Does any astrologer play role in fixing the match ? or helping to find > > > >>> > the best match? > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > I hope there must some logic behind in our old says.. > > > >>> > > > > > >>>>> > > As per the Astrologers guidelines if anyone follows, the incidents can > > > >>> > not be stopped but the impact can be > > > >> reduced. Similarly, in a chart if he > > > >>> > has a poor significations for a happy marital life, if he is marched to a > > > >>> > better one, there wont be permanent separation but misunderstanding or > > > >>> > temporary separation during the unfavorable period. > > > >>>>> > > Pls give your views on the above. > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > With Regards > > > >>> > > Adith > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > >  > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > Hi > > > >>> > > neither guna nor kuta will helpful in matching of boy-girl horoscope as > > > >>>>> > it is predestined and he/she should get marry what has already destined in > > > >>> > their > > > >> charts. > > > >>> > > i remember one girl chart in which i had predicted short marital life > > > >>> > as well as i had predicted diseases of her husband by anlysing her chart. > > > >>> > Later girl married and lead marital life for few years and her faced health > > > >>>>> > problem resulted in his death. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > both in hindu predictive as well as in kp for marital life some > > > >>> > combination and significance has given. > > > >>> > > Regards > > > >>> > > Sahhasra Saagara > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>> > > @gro ups.com > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > Cc: Wyomesh wyomeshd > > > > >>> > > > >> > > Thu, 8 April, 2010 8:14:18 PM > > > >>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > >  > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > Dear Wyomesh, > > > >>> > >                       Yoni Guna has been taken > > > >>> > care of in KPDP, for your information, under compatibility. ..! > > > >>>>> > >                        With best wishes, > > > >>> > >                       Yogesh Lajmi. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, Wyomesh wyomeshd > wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > Wyomesh wyomeshd > > > > >>> > > Subject: > > > >> Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >>> > > @gro ups.com > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > Received: Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 1:59 PM > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > >  > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > Hello > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > I would like to add here something... . > > > >>> > > It is very important to see YONI GUNA. Suppose male YONI is GAU (cow) > > > >>>>> > > and Female's Yoni is VYAGHRA ( LION)... Both are hard enemies. So, Even > > > >>> > on matching perfect can not give satisfactory married life. > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > So we should always look for traditional rules with KP. > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>> > > Thank you > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > @gro ups.com, " kadavasalramani " <kadavasalramani@ > wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>> > > > Dear Sri Adithj, > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of > > > >>> > late Guruji, Sri KSK. > > > >>> > > > It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified > > > >>>>> > according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for matching > > > >>> > the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. In > > > >>> > this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple will > > > >>>>> > lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this there is > > > >>> > no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, Saturn > > > >>> > Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes > > > >>>>> > according to KP system. > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > Regards, > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > >>> > > > - > > > >>> > > > adith kasinath.g.k > > > >>> > > > @gro ups.com > > > >>>>> > > > Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM > > > >>> > > > KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > Dear friends, > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>> > > > Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed in > > > >>> > the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.? > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom? > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>> > > > I hope this is being given in some sw. > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > I will > > > >> be obliged to get these details > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > Thanks and Regards > > > >>> > > > Adith > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > >  > > > >>> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > > > >>>>> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > > > >>> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > > >>>>> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > > > >>> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 Dear Friends, How could those poruthams be related to the following combinations? Has any notable chart been found matching such combinations? Thanks and regards, TW Whereas,if the setup of the sublords of the houses IV,VIII & XII are set up as follows : Venus-Saturn-Venus Venus-Merc-Venus Moon-Sun-Moon Moon-Mars-Moon Sat-Merc-Saturn such a Jatak will never suffer even a small scratch in his entire lifetime...! , " TW " <tw853 wrote: > > Dear Friends, > Where in KP such kinds of combination have the place to follow? KP reference? KP rationale? > Thanks and regards, > TW > > > Whereas,if the setup of the sublords of the houses IV,VIII & XII are set up as follows : > Venus-Saturn-Venus > Venus-Merc-Venus > Moon-Sun-Moon > Moon-Mars-Moon > Sat-Merc-Saturn > such a Jatak will never suffer even a small scratch in his entire lifetime...! > > , Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Adith, > >                Could you please send me the charts where this rule has failed...because in actual practice it is in extremely rare cases that one among these combinations are found to exist...! > >                With kind regards, > >                Yogesh Lajmi. > > > > --- On Fri, 16/4/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@> wrote: > > > > > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > " Yogesh Lajmi " <yogeshlajmi@> > > Received: Friday, 16 April, 2010, 3:42 PM > > > > > > Dear Yogesh ji, > > > > I agree with your points. > > > > But I am doubtful about the possibility of NO ACCIDENT in one's life time due to the said combination. > > We have to study a lot. I remeber I tried to apply to few cases, I failed. > > > > With Regards > > Adith  > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Senthil, > >                  If one was destined to suffer a bad injury in an accident,he would have forgotten to wear a helmet,or he would have suffered severe injuries,despite his wearing a helmet... that is how destiny operates...(Karma in action...). > >  > >                  One can explain why one is lucky not to have a single accident in his entire life,only by K.P. Principles... > >  > >                  If the Vimshottari Dasa period running is ruled by the s/lords of the cusps of IV,VIII & XII,one will surely meet with an accident... > >  > >                 Whereas,if the setup of the sublords of the houses IV,VIII & XII are set up as follows : > >                           Venus-Saturn-Venus > >                           Venus-Merc-Venus > >                           Moon-Sun-Moon > >                           Moon-Mars-Moon > >                          Sat-Merc-Saturn > >                  such a Jatak will never suffer even a small scratch in his entire lifetime...! > >  > >                 Also, a careful in-depth examination of the s/l of the Ascendant can reveal ones Destiny...Long/Short Life,Rich/Poor,Healthy/Sickly and so on...as was decided by Bramha soon after one's Birth... > >                 > >                  And so on...Krishnamurthi Padhdhati, has so many wonderful possibilities...! ! > >  > >                 An indepth study of K.P., patiently and carefully,will surely help dizcover these possibilities... > >  > >                 With the very best wishes, > >                 Yogesh Lajmi. > >                                         \   GOOD LUCK ! > > > >                 > >  > > > > --- On Fri, 16/4/10, Senthil <athi_ram@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Senthil <athi_ram@> > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > Received: Friday, 16 April, 2010, 12:58 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Adith, > > > > // > > If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope. There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. > > > > Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control? > > // > > > >  > > > > As per my view if the person has to meet with an accident in a particular moment but no death is indicated that is including DBA as well as transit don't signify/agree for death(badaka/ maraka etc) then some how he/she will escape by wearing helmet or without Helmet. I have explained few months back in this forum. During my advanced astrology study time (may be year 2000) one accident case chat was discussed in the class who didn’t die but went to coma stage. > >  > > > > Similarly, suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. Due to some reason they may ignore or misguided by some other astrologer/somebody etc and finally they may not be going for the marriage with girl you have suggested as THE BEST MATCH.(Hope this may be happening for most Astrologers too.) > > > >  > > So as an astrologer what are you controlling here? I believe that you are doing you own karma only (say astrologer work/duty) > >  > > Hope you can understand it now and the above are my personal views only. > > > >  > > GOOD LUCK!! > >  > > D.Senthil > > > > > >  > > > > --- On Wed, 4/14/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 7:25 PM > > > > > >  > > > > Dear Suna ji, > > > > Thanks for your valuable explanation. > > So kind of you. > > > > You mean to say that one will be free to do according to the present sources available or the effort he himself takes to do it. I agree with this to a great extent. But if he is not destined astrologically, he may not succeed in his effort. > > > > For instance, a boy if he tries hard to get score , he can not if his chart and periods do not support. > > > > But as you said, I agree as follows: > > > > For instance, if one takes up his decision to do or no to a work according to his own thought or by some one's advice, his current deeds are controlled .He may escape from doing a wrong deed as per the past Karma. > > > > When no vehicles were invented, if a man those days has the significations of 4,11 he will get a cart or similar to that. After the inventions of the Vehicles, one will get the bike or car etc.,. It means one could be influenced with the present available sources. Similarly, one will do his deeds according to his present situation and his mind set and effort. If he is a person with any past bitter experience in any event, business, when his similar bad time comes again, he will take his decision vary cautiously sothat the impact will be reduced , though not avoided fully. So he has the control. > > > > Similarly in the present life, one has good contacts with gurus, good astrologers, well wishers , even a person with bad characters is guided properly and does some good deeds. > > In those days, in a joint family where there will be a Head (very old experienced person) who will lead the total family members. Everyone has to act according to his advice only. There the percentage of failures, wrong deeds were greatly reduced. Though one of the family member who has the tendency to do bad events will be under control. But once that Head passes away, the total family is collapsed and splitted. Then as there is no guidance, they act act as per the destiny without any control and face the troubles accordingly. > > > > If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope. > > There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. > > > > Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control? > > > > The above are my personal points only. > > > > Your valuable inputs are welcome, as you are all much experienced person. > > > > Thanks and REgards > > Adith    > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha@ > wrote: > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Adith ji, > > > > I also wish to add some ideas for your doubt on Kamma. > > > > > > If a person had done any good deeds or bad deeds in his previous birth, and if he has not finished his Karma for rebirth, he may receive passport to the next birth. Sometimes he might have low marks in his last examination in his previous birth, but enough level for a pass, he may come back to the universe to complete his lost subject and for high marks to finish his journey of life. So everyone must understand this fact of completing his weak subjects and get the highest mark rate for a pass. > >  > > This is a very simple interpretation of Kamma. > >  > > If a man climbs to the third floor of a building, it is undeniable true that his arriving to third floor is a result of his past action (Kamma) that is, WALKING up the stairs. And having arrived there, it is impossible for him to reach out and touch the ground with his hand, or drive a car up and down there. Obviously this is because he has gone up to the third floor. Or, having arrived at the third floor, whether he is too exhausted to continue is also related to having walked up the stairs. His arrival there, the things he is able to do there and the situation he is likely to encounter, are all certainly related to the OLD KAMMA of having walked up the stairs. But exactly which action he will perform, his reactions to the situations which arise there, whether he will take a rest, walk on, or walk back down the stairs and out of that building, are all matters which he can decide for himself in that PRESENT moment, for which he will also reap the > > results. Even though the action of walking up the stairs may still be influencing him (for example, with his strength sapped he may be unable to function efficiently in any given situation), whether he decides to give in to that tiredness or try to overcome it, are all matters which he can decide for himself in the present moment. > > > > > > > > Therefore OLD KAMMA should be understood in its relation to the whole cause and effect process. In terms of ethical practice, to understand the cause and effect process is to be able to learn from Old Kamma, understanding the situation at hand, and to skillfully make a plan of action for improving and correcting the future. > > > > > > > >  > > Kalyan > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TW <tw853 > > > > > @gro ups.com > > Wed, 14 April, 2010 9:06:02 AM > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > >  > > > > > > Dear Adith ji, > > 1. Everything in one's life may be said as predestined at the moment of birth by past karma for the possibility of cent percent accuracy in the astrological prediction which is not the case in practice. Because please note " it may be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects of his Karma. " > > 2. " If the present life is totally conditioned or wholly controlled by our past actions, then certainly Karma is tantamount to fatalism or determinism or predestination. If this were true, free will would be an absurdity. Life would be purely mechanistic, not much different from a machine. Such a fatalistic doctrine is not the Buddhist law of Karma…Karma does not necessarily mean past actions. It embraces both past and present deeds. Hence in one sense, we are the result of what we were; we will be the result of what we are… The inequality that exists among mankind is the result of our own past actions and our own present doings (esp viriya 'effort' and panna 'wisdom'). We ourselves are responsible for our own. " > > -Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw (The Theory of Karma) > > 3. In the Upajjhatthana Sutta (AN 5.57), the Lord Buddha states: > > " I am the owner of my karma. I inherit my karma. I am born of my karma. I am related to my karma. I live supported by my karma. Whatever karma I create, whether good or evil, that I shall inherit. " > > Regards, > > TW > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " adith kasinath.g.k " <gkadithkasinath@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear TW ji, > > > > > > Thanks for the valuable points by our Guruji. > > > > > > But I ever have teh following question in mind unanswered. > > > > > > When all is destined in one life, he can not be responsible for his deeds in > > > the present life. > > > For example, if one happens to be a bad person in all activities due to his > > > past bad deeds, he may not be in a position to do any good deeds in his > > > present life. In this case, in his next births also we can expect him to be > > > a bad human only. So how can one is expected to do any good deeds in his > > > birth? > > > > > > can you enlighten me on this? > > > > > > Regards > > > Adith > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM, TW <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Guruji KSK's Quotations on Karma, Destiny* > > > > > > > > Chances, luck or misfortune are governed by the law of Causation or Karma. > > > > God is neither partial or unjust, and everything happens according to one's > > > > action in the past birth. > > > > > > > > When we think we understand that the theory " Karma and Incarnation " alone > > > > can convince.--- what we have to enjoy is undoubtedly predestined. I cannot > > > > understand how the judgment of God can be, in any manner, modified or > > > > nullified by our efforts.--- > > > > > > > > Everything is predestined. ---None can dodge fate.--- If one can change the > > > > event by one's will, then astrology has no place. > > > > > > > > Karma can be divided broadly into three kinds: Dhruda (fixed) Karma that > > > > one has committed an inexcusable mistake or crime in the previous birth, > > > > Dhruda - Adhruda (fixed/non-fixed) Karma that one would have committed an > > > > excusable mistake in the previous birth, and Adhruda (non-fixed) Karma that > > > > the crime committed may be negligible…The majority of people commit > > > > excusable mistakes called Dhruda †" Adhruda Karma. Therefore Shanti will be > > > > done by them with or without their knowledge and they will not ultimately > > > > suffer… Just like one has no choice about his birth time, place and his > > > > parents, so also there is nothing left in one's hands. Everything is > > > > pre-destined. None can change it. Then only one can use this > > > > science…Astrology is a science. It needs further research and confirmation. > > > > There is no use for the word " Likely " . Everything is a certainty… It may > > > > be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of > > > > his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way > > > > directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects > > > > of his Karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prasanna, > > > > >                      As per K.P.,and nobody/nothing > > > > can change human destiny/fate, once written by Brahma soon after one's > > > > birth...your quote of Nacchiketa is of a very rare and extra-ordinary > > > > case... > > > > >                      Guruji KSK had predicted the > > > > death of a retired senior retired Govt. Official who requested him > > > > to predit even the Tome of his death...which the worthy disbelieved > > > > totally,and in order to prov KSK wrong,made arrangements to sith in his lawn > > > > under a Garden Umbrella with a Thermos Flask full of coffee to wait out well > > > > past the predited thr Time of Death...but alas,from the corner of his eyes > > > > he was watching his dear grandson play on the verendah...and to his great > > > > horror he saw him walking baxckwards towards the garden and to a fall on the > > > > ground below and that too backwards... in a desperate attempt at preventing > > > > him from walking towards his certain fall,he made a dash for him,his foot > > > > got stuck in the crossbar of the easychair in which he was seated and he > > > > fell down,hitting his head on the ston steps with a resounding thud,and he > > > > died instantly,and to the surprise of all, the time was exactly what KSK had > > > > > predicted days in advance...! > > > > >                         The above has ben > > > > narrated in his original Books...and prove that Astroloby is a Vedanga and > > > > is born out of the Karma Theory...what is destined WILL take place...come > > > > what may... ! > > > > >                         This also proves the > > > > accuracy of K.P. and Krishnamurthi Ayanamsa... > > > > >                         Another " live " proof can > > > > be had by anyone,if he so desires : > > > > >                         First have a Birth Chart > > > > correctly cast by a K.P. Astrologer after the necessary corrections( if > > > > needed),are made... > > > > >                         Then,pl. note the exact > > > > time at which one gets a cut or has a fall with blood oozing out of the > > > > wound... > > > > >                         To your great chagrin, > > > > the sublords of the IVth,VIIIth & XIIth cusps,will be the Dasa/Bhukti/ Anthra > > > > lords of the persons Dasa running at the time... ! > > > > >                         Pl. check and > > > > inform,this is a " love " proof...what more is required ? > > > > >                         With best wishes, > > > > >                         Yogesh Lajmi. > > > > >                       > > > > >                 > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ > > > > > > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > > > Cc: ssagar86@ > > > > > > > > > Received: Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 6:48 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected sagarji, > > > > > your views seem to be fatalistic. Human life is just a tiny part of this > > > > vast BRAMHANDA.So many factors effect human life that it is not possible to > > > > predict what will happen in future. Astrologers can only in some way study > > > > the trend or tendencies.With the gene therapy even diffective genes can be > > > > replaced, which instigates people to go for wrong action causing wrong > > > > result. It is said person doing PAPA will get his due result in this KALI > > > > ERA itself. Instances may be found where even Prarabdha was changed. Story > > > > of NACHIKETA is known to all. Story of SAVITRI is also known to all. It > > > > depends on the person who has been sufferring. In fact in KALI ERA people > > > > do not have patience or faith that mountains can be moved.Hence no serious > > > > effort is done to change the destiny. Hence with all due respect to you > > > > please give your opinion in this regard. > > > > >  > > > > > Prasanna > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 8:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > ASTROLOGER TELLS WHAT MAY HAPPEN, BUT GOD ONLY CAN TELL WHAT EXACTLY WILL > > > > HAPPEN. > > > > > > > > > > Naidu KP > > > > > > > > > > K. P. Naidu, > > > > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts., > > > > > Nowroji Road, > > > > > Maharanipeta, > > > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002. > > > > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 12:03 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Adith > > > > > MY first conference attend in Feb 1989 at Cuttack. > > > > > i have presented three papers and speak on one important subject called " > > > > Everything is predestined and no one can change or alter it , even the > > > > Creator lord Brahma " > > > > > We astrologers can predict the events what will happen, neither we can > > > > change or alter it. > > > > > I have quoted " yatha raja , tatha praja " likewise " yatha graha tatha > > > > phala " . > > > > > Almost all astrologer appreciated my speech, later Mr.Subramaniam asked > > > > me " ur speech truly marvelous, but can u answer for one doubt " can u run in > > > > a front of running vehicle by assuming that everything predestined " > > > > > my answer was " if my fate is predestined to met with accident i will run > > > > in front of a running bus, if my fate is not predestined for accident even > > > > though i run in front of a running bus , driver will try to rescue me and he > > > > will turn his vehicle which will kill some which has predestined is one > > > > thing on the other hand my mind will not permit me to run in front of > > > > running bus " . > > > > > All astrologers are only a reader what will happen in the future. > > > > > in fact i wont match guna kuta , i will match the girl and boy chart > > > > weather their marriage has predestined or not. > > > > > I use to predict few points of the girl/boy as per their charts.It > > > > happened too. > > > > > Regards > > > > > Sahhasra Saagara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Senthil athi_ram > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:58:28 PM > > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Adith, > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with > > > > their son’s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an > > > > astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is > > > > no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. So what is > > > > the use for matching the charts? Actually you have to find firstly whether > > > > as per his destiny his Girl’s chart is available among the 10 charts are > > > > not? If yes, that is it else ask them to bring any other set of charts to > > > > find his Girl (written as per his destiny) that is all. I have written an > > > > article based on my past failure case (job offers) regarding  " which > > > > company he will join?†in KP annual number 2010 you may refer it. > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Also during my study on Driving license one of the person who failed in > > > > the 1st road test asked me the following (refer Quiz-8). He was ready to > > > > attend ONLY ON TEST (no more test & the person was having urge etc.) which > > > > he should get PASS. Now you have to tell which date/time he should attend > > > > the test so that he will get pass on that day/time. You have to guarantee > > > > that he will get appointment on that date/time (there is a chance he can > > > > purposely get appointment for some other date/time or the date may be > > > > already booked by many candidate and full etc), the test should be conducted > > > > on that date/time (it should not be declared holiday or cancelled due to any > > > > reason etc) and also he should attend the test on that date/time without > > > > fail (not absent due to any reasons or there is a chance he can purposely > > > > not to attend test on that date/time etc) and he should get PASS. > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Are you ready to give all the above correct? Any one failure is > > > > sufficient to say that our prediction is WRONG. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > So what is our (astrologer’s) role? I personally believe that we are > > > > the tools through us some message is passed on the native/quarent that is > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > The above are my personal views and not to criticize you or anybody. > > > > >  > > > > > GOOD LUCK!! > > > > >  > > > > > D.Senthil > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com> > > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:49 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sagar ji, > > > > > > > > > > I accept your points. . But if it is destined, whats the role of > > > > Astrologer in matching? Why should we match? > > > > > > > > > > Does any astrologer play role in fixing the match ? or helping to find > > > > the best match? > > > > > > > > > > I hope there must some logic behind in our old says.. > > > > > > > > > > As per the Astrologers guidelines if anyone follows, the incidents can > > > > not be stopped but the impact can be reduced. Similarly, in a chart if he > > > > has a poor significations for a happy marital life, if he is marched to a > > > > better one, there wont be permanent separation but misunderstanding or > > > > temporary separation during the unfavorable period. > > > > > Pls give your views on the above. > > > > > > > > > > With Regards > > > > > Adith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > neither guna nor kuta will helpful in matching of boy-girl horoscope as > > > > it is predestined and he/she should get marry what has already destined in > > > > their charts. > > > > > i remember one girl chart in which i had predicted short marital life > > > > as well as i had predicted diseases of her husband by anlysing her chart. > > > > Later girl married and lead marital life for few years and her faced health > > > > problem resulted in his death. > > > > > > > > > both in hindu predictive as well as in kp for marital life some > > > > combination and significance has given. > > > > > Regards > > > > > Sahhasra Saagara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > > Cc: Wyomesh wyomeshd > > > > > > Thu, 8 April, 2010 8:14:18 PM > > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Wyomesh, > > > > >                       Yoni Guna has been taken > > > > care of in KPDP, for your information, under compatibility. ..! > > > > >                        With best wishes, > > > > >                       Yogesh Lajmi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, Wyomesh wyomeshd > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wyomesh wyomeshd > > > > > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Received: Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 1:59 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > > > > > I would like to add here something... . > > > > > It is very important to see YONI GUNA. Suppose male YONI is GAU (cow) > > > > > and Female's Yoni is VYAGHRA ( LION)... Both are hard enemies. So, Even > > > > on matching perfect can not give satisfactory married life. > > > > > > > > > > So we should always look for traditional rules with KP. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " kadavasalramani " <kadavasalramani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sri Adithj, > > > > > > > > > > > > KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of > > > > late Guruji, Sri KSK. > > > > > > It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified > > > > according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for matching > > > > the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. In > > > > this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple will > > > > lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this there is > > > > no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, Saturn > > > > Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes > > > > according to KP system. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani > > > > > > - > > > > > > adith kasinath.g.k > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM > > > > > > KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed in > > > > the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.? > > > > > > > > > > > > Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom? > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope this is being given in some sw. > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be obliged to get these details > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > Adith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > > > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > > > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. > > > > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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