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Om Gurave Namah

 

Dear K,

Namaste

 

Is it ok to ask you to post us your birth data?

 

(Curiosity, yes, it killed that cat, I know... :) If the answer

is " YES " , here we are waiting)

 

Hey there... could it be that you did not find this article on

Visti's website?

 

http://www.srigaruda.com/articles/2004/12/25/nashta-jataka-the-lost-

horoscope/

 

Try it, why not. Here is one quotation from it:

 

" From the navamsa lagna in prasna, one will know the rasi lagna at

birth. "

 

I am waiting for your birth data to check prasna chart (just to give

you my opinion. I hope that I will not make more confusion to your

chart then it is there already)

 

Regards,

Maya

 

Hari Om Tat Sat

 

 

 

sohamsa , " k4t07 " <her_asha wrote:

>

> Dear Gurujans, Pranams

>

> I know this is a v v basic question for the calibre of some of the

> SJC gurus and students who post here. But I am attempting to fix

my

> lagna. As there is no record of my birth time and my mother does

not

> remember the extact time. The lagna is either capricorn or aquerous

>

> I have availed of the services of several good jyotishes. Some

have

> said the lagna is capricorn and given me readings and remedies and

> other have said it is aquarious and given obviously other reasons

> for the mess my life is and different remedies. No remedy has

worked

> and I see no end to the terror, hounding and persecution by my ex

> husband.

>

> The irony is that it has been the trigger to my learning jyotish.

I

> can rectify navamsa and other divisions but in all the lectures by

> visti, sanjayji and others I have not been able to find a way to

> acertain rasi lagna.

>

> Could anyone point me in the direction of where I can find a

lesson

> by Visti or a book where I can learn about how to look at a rasi

> chart and acertain what the lagna is going to be.

>

> In my case going by past event it CAN be either aquarous or it CAN

> it capricorn!

>

> with thanks

> -K

>

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Dear Maja, Pranams

 

Sure it is ok to ask. My data is:

 

29 July 1965

Place: Nairobi, Kenya

Time: Between 6:45PM and 8:00PM

 

Key events (I don't yet know how to use these to rectify charts)

1. Broke left leg badly in 1973, fractured left arm in 1976

3. Married in Aug 1987 (after 1 year engagement)

4. Graduated BSc honours in Science and Computing in 1992

5. Daughter born 9 March 1999, Hemel Hempstead, UK. 7:55pm-8:05pm

6. Filed for divorce April 2002.

7. Got a place to do a MSC in 1994 but had to abandon even before

starting as ex husband filed another court case.

8. No job since 1998

 

The time range puts the lagna either in capricorn or aquarous and

further if it is capricorn then the moon can be either in 7th or 8th

house.

 

Any light you and any others can shed, I would be so grateful. My

life has been a complete nightmare for the last decade. I have lost

count of how many court cases bought by my ex, that I have had to

endure and fight in the last 6 years. They are for contact with our

young daughter and for the joint house. The marriage was always

abusive but when my young daughter told me what where he was

touching her, I reported the abuse and filed for divorce. That was

in early 2002. Since then I have been fighting in the courts to

prevent unsupervised and overnight contact. This I finally lost a

couple of months ago and at this moment she is staying with him for

a week. He also now has overnight weekend contact every alternate

weekends.

 

I also lost the house court case with him able to force the sale of

the house and get a significant % of the equity. However, there is a

possibility in asking the court permission to appeal. Whether

permission is granted and then whether appeal will succeed in my

getting the whole house (he made this offer of no maintenance and I

get whole house twice and then retracted) is another factor. Besides

this although the house has been up for sale for last 7 months it

has not sold and also the estate agent went out of businees. A new

one has now been appointed.

 

 

Thank you so much for the link to Visti's article and lecture. I

missed that completely.

 

 

 

 

Thank you again

 

-K

 

sohamsa , " Maja Strbac " <majastrbacastro

wrote:

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Dear K,

> Namaste

>

> Is it ok to ask you to post us your birth data?

>

> (Curiosity, yes, it killed that cat, I know... :) If the answer

> is " YES " , here we are waiting)

>

> Hey there... could it be that you did not find this article on

> Visti's website?

>

> http://www.srigaruda.com/articles/2004/12/25/nashta-jataka-the-

lost-

> horoscope/

>

> Try it, why not. Here is one quotation from it:

>

> " From the navamsa lagna in prasna, one will know the rasi lagna at

> birth. "

>

> I am waiting for your birth data to check prasna chart (just to

give

> you my opinion. I hope that I will not make more confusion to your

> chart then it is there already)

>

> Regards,

> Maya

>

> Hari Om Tat Sat

>

>

>

> sohamsa , " k4t07 " <her_asha@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gurujans, Pranams

> >

> > I know this is a v v basic question for the calibre of some of

the

> > SJC gurus and students who post here. But I am attempting to fix

> my

> > lagna. As there is no record of my birth time and my mother does

> not

> > remember the extact time. The lagna is either capricorn or

aquerous

> >

> > I have availed of the services of several good jyotishes. Some

> have

> > said the lagna is capricorn and given me readings and remedies

and

> > other have said it is aquarious and given obviously other

reasons

> > for the mess my life is and different remedies. No remedy has

> worked

> > and I see no end to the terror, hounding and persecution by my

ex

> > husband.

> >

> > The irony is that it has been the trigger to my learning

jyotish.

> I

> > can rectify navamsa and other divisions but in all the lectures

by

> > visti, sanjayji and others I have not been able to find a way to

> > acertain rasi lagna.

> >

> > Could anyone point me in the direction of where I can find a

> lesson

> > by Visti or a book where I can learn about how to look at a rasi

> > chart and acertain what the lagna is going to be.

> >

> > In my case going by past event it CAN be either aquarous or it

CAN

> > it capricorn!

> >

> > with thanks

> > -K

> >

>

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Dear K,

Namaste

 

(I am sending this email for the second time, I don't get what

happened yesterday)

 

You are most welcome for the link.

 

OK, prasna from yesterday:

 

07th of August 2008.

Time: 19:41:00 (PM of course)

Time zone: 02h East of GMT

Location: 20 E 30; 44 N 50

 

You should get Mithuna D9 lagna and Sukra on it in that prasna.

 

For the starting point let's try to find your correct lagna, and

check rest of divisional charts to fit them somehow in your life

story later.

 

I think your rasi lagna is Makar. Here is why.

 

D9 in prasna, there is Chandra/Mangal in Dhanu, 7th bhava, so this

rasi is stronger. If we observe Dhanu rasi for purposes of

rectification, than you can find Mangal in 9th bhava in your Rasi

chart when it is rectified on Makar lagna. I think that this could

be good enough reason to give more chances to Makar.

 

For this following I am not sure if it is correctly used: Observe D9

in prasna from Dhanu and look at trines. Ma/Ch/Sa/Ra/Bu. Two Grahas

from this list (Ma/Ra) are related to Makar lagna in your rasi

chart.

 

Let's wait a little to be sure.

 

Regards,

Maya

 

Hari Om Tat Sat

 

 

sohamsa , " k4t07 " <her_asha wrote:

>

> Dear Maja, Pranams

>

> Sure it is ok to ask. My data is:

>

> 29 July 1965

> Place: Nairobi, Kenya

> Time: Between 6:45PM and 8:00PM

>

> Key events (I don't yet know how to use these to rectify charts)

> 1. Broke left leg badly in 1973, fractured left arm in 1976

> 3. Married in Aug 1987 (after 1 year engagement)

> 4. Graduated BSc honours in Science and Computing in 1992

> 5. Daughter born 9 March 1999, Hemel Hempstead, UK. 7:55pm-8:05pm

> 6. Filed for divorce April 2002.

> 7. Got a place to do a MSC in 1994 but had to abandon even before

> starting as ex husband filed another court case.

> 8. No job since 1998

>

> The time range puts the lagna either in capricorn or aquarous and

> further if it is capricorn then the moon can be either in 7th or

8th

> house.

>

> Any light you and any others can shed, I would be so grateful. My

> life has been a complete nightmare for the last decade. I have

lost

> count of how many court cases bought by my ex, that I have had to

> endure and fight in the last 6 years. They are for contact with

our

> young daughter and for the joint house. The marriage was always

> abusive but when my young daughter told me what where he was

> touching her, I reported the abuse and filed for divorce. That was

> in early 2002. Since then I have been fighting in the courts to

> prevent unsupervised and overnight contact. This I finally lost a

> couple of months ago and at this moment she is staying with him

for

> a week. He also now has overnight weekend contact every alternate

> weekends.

>

> I also lost the house court case with him able to force the sale

of

> the house and get a significant % of the equity. However, there is

a

> possibility in asking the court permission to appeal. Whether

> permission is granted and then whether appeal will succeed in my

> getting the whole house (he made this offer of no maintenance and

I

> get whole house twice and then retracted) is another factor.

Besides

> this although the house has been up for sale for last 7 months it

> has not sold and also the estate agent went out of businees. A new

> one has now been appointed.

>

>

> Thank you so much for the link to Visti's article and lecture. I

> missed that completely.

>

>

>

>

> Thank you again

>

> -K

>

> sohamsa , " Maja Strbac " <majastrbacastro@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Dear K,

> > Namaste

> >

> > Is it ok to ask you to post us your birth data?

> >

> > (Curiosity, yes, it killed that cat, I know... :) If the answer

> > is " YES " , here we are waiting)

> >

> > Hey there... could it be that you did not find this article on

> > Visti's website?

> >

> > http://www.srigaruda.com/articles/2004/12/25/nashta-jataka-the-

> lost-

> > horoscope/

> >

> > Try it, why not. Here is one quotation from it:

> >

> > " From the navamsa lagna in prasna, one will know the rasi lagna

at

> > birth. "

> >

> > I am waiting for your birth data to check prasna chart (just to

> give

> > you my opinion. I hope that I will not make more confusion to

your

> > chart then it is there already)

> >

> > Regards,

> > Maya

> >

> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> >

> >

> >

> > sohamsa , " k4t07 " <her_asha@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Gurujans, Pranams

> > >

> > > I know this is a v v basic question for the calibre of some of

> the

> > > SJC gurus and students who post here. But I am attempting to

fix

> > my

> > > lagna. As there is no record of my birth time and my mother

does

> > not

> > > remember the extact time. The lagna is either capricorn or

> aquerous

> > >

> > > I have availed of the services of several good jyotishes. Some

> > have

> > > said the lagna is capricorn and given me readings and remedies

> and

> > > other have said it is aquarious and given obviously other

> reasons

> > > for the mess my life is and different remedies. No remedy has

> > worked

> > > and I see no end to the terror, hounding and persecution by my

> ex

> > > husband.

> > >

> > > The irony is that it has been the trigger to my learning

> jyotish.

> > I

> > > can rectify navamsa and other divisions but in all the

lectures

> by

> > > visti, sanjayji and others I have not been able to find a way

to

> > > acertain rasi lagna.

> > >

> > > Could anyone point me in the direction of where I can find a

> > lesson

> > > by Visti or a book where I can learn about how to look at a

rasi

> > > chart and acertain what the lagna is going to be.

> > >

> > > In my case going by past event it CAN be either aquarous or it

> CAN

> > > it capricorn!

> > >

> > > with thanks

> > > -K

> > >

> >

>

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Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro Re: How to fix or find lagna in rasi if birth time is not accurate?sohamsa Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 4:40 AM

 

 

Om Gurave NamahDear K,Namaste(I am sending this email for the second time, I don't get what happened yesterday)You are most welcome for the link. OK, prasna from yesterday:07th of August 2008.Time: 19:41:00 (PM of course)Time zone: 02h East of GMTLocation: 20 E 30; 44 N 50You should get Mithuna D9 lagna and Sukra on it in that prasna. For the starting point let's try to find your correct lagna, and check rest of divisional charts to fit them somehow in your life story later.I think your rasi lagna is Makar. Here is why.D9 in prasna, there is Chandra/Mangal in Dhanu, 7th bhava, so this rasi is stronger. If we observe Dhanu rasi for purposes of rectification, than you can find Mangal in 9th bhava in your Rasi chart when it is rectified on Makar lagna. I think that this could be good enough reason to give more chances to

Makar.For this following I am not sure if it is correctly used: Observe D9 in prasna from Dhanu and look at trines. Ma/Ch/Sa/Ra/ Bu. Two Grahas from this list (Ma/Ra) are related to Makar lagna in your rasi chart. Let's wait a little to be sure.Regards,MayaHari Om Tat Satsohamsa@ .com, "k4t07" <her_asha@.. .> wrote:>> Dear Maja, Pranams> > Sure it is ok to ask. My data is:> > 29 July 1965> Place: Nairobi, Kenya> Time: Between 6:45PM and 8:00PM> > Key events (I don't yet know how to use these to rectify charts)> 1. Broke left leg badly in 1973, fractured left arm in 1976> 3. Married in Aug 1987 (after 1 year engagement)> 4. Graduated BSc honours in Science and Computing in 1992 > 5. Daughter born 9

March 1999, Hemel Hempstead, UK. 7:55pm-8:05pm> 6. Filed for divorce April 2002.> 7. Got a place to do a MSC in 1994 but had to abandon even before > starting as ex husband filed another court case.> 8. No job since 1998> > The time range puts the lagna either in capricorn or aquarous and > further if it is capricorn then the moon can be either in 7th or 8th > house.> > Any light you and any others can shed, I would be so grateful. My > life has been a complete nightmare for the last decade. I have lost > count of how many court cases bought by my ex, that I have had to > endure and fight in the last 6 years. They are for contact with our > young daughter and for the joint house. The marriage was always > abusive but when my young daughter told me what where he was > touching her, I reported the abuse and filed for divorce. That

was > in early 2002. Since then I have been fighting in the courts to > prevent unsupervised and overnight contact. This I finally lost a > couple of months ago and at this moment she is staying with him for > a week. He also now has overnight weekend contact every alternate > weekends.> > I also lost the house court case with him able to force the sale of > the house and get a significant % of the equity. However, there is a > possibility in asking the court permission to appeal. Whether > permission is granted and then whether appeal will succeed in my > getting the whole house (he made this offer of no maintenance and I > get whole house twice and then retracted) is another factor. Besides > this although the house has been up for sale for last 7 months it > has not sold and also the estate agent went out of businees. A new >

one has now been appointed.> > > Thank you so much for the link to Visti's article and lecture. I > missed that completely.> > > > > Thank you again> > -K> > sohamsa@ .com, "Maja Strbac" <majastrbacastro@ > > wrote:> >> > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Dear K,> > Namaste > > > > Is it ok to ask you to post us your birth data? > > > > (Curiosity, yes, it killed that cat, I know... :) If the answer > > is "YES", here we are waiting)> > > > Hey there... could it be that you did not find this article on > > Visti's website?> > > > http://www.srigarud a.com/articles/ 2004/12/25/ nashta-jataka- the-> lost-> > horoscope/ > > > > Try it, why not. Here is one quotation from it:> > > > "From the navamsa lagna in prasna, one will know the rasi lagna at > > birth."> > > > I am waiting for your birth data to check prasna chart (just to > give > > you my opinion. I hope that I will not make more confusion to your > > chart then it is there already)> > > > Regards,> > Maya> > > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "k4t07" <her_asha@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Gurujans, Pranams> > > > > > I know this is a v v

basic question for the calibre of some of > the > > > SJC gurus and students who post here. But I am attempting to fix > > my > > > lagna. As there is no record of my birth time and my mother does > > not > > > remember the extact time. The lagna is either capricorn or > aquerous> > > > > > I have availed of the services of several good jyotishes. Some > > have > > > said the lagna is capricorn and given me readings and remedies > and > > > other have said it is aquarious and given obviously other > reasons > > > for the mess my life is and different remedies. No remedy has > > worked > > > and I see no end to the terror, hounding and persecution by my > ex > > > husband.> > > > > > The irony is that it has been the

trigger to my learning > jyotish. > > I > > > can rectify navamsa and other divisions but in all the lectures > by > > > visti, sanjayji and others I have not been able to find a way to > > > acertain rasi lagna.> > > > > > Could anyone point me in the direction of where I can find a > > lesson > > > by Visti or a book where I can learn about how to look at a rasi > > > chart and acertain what the lagna is going to be.> > > > > > In my case going by past event it CAN be either aquarous or it > CAN > > > it capricorn!> > > > > > with thanks> > > -K> > >> >>

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Om Gurave Namah

Dear Rafal Ji, namaste

 

Two different prasna charts and same result... wow. So, when

rectifying we should always give advantage to tatva in Nasta prasna

D9 rather than grahas in trikona, correct?

 

I know it is too much to expect that you still have that prasna

chart, but if there is any chance that you do, please send my data.

I would like to see that chart.

 

This is from your email:

 

" We choose between prthvi and airy

> sign so even if Dhanus is stronger, its more for vayu as Mithuna

is Vayu. "

 

Why prithivi mentioned?

 

It is deffinetely Kumbha lagna. Narayana Mahadasa 1994. is Kanya

rasi, A6. This lady said it was time when her husband started legal

process.

 

Can we go on with rectifying D9 lagna in her chart? But first, lets

agree which prasna chart we shall use (ok, I do know it is all same,

but let's stick to one prasna chart. It is easier to follow. OK?)

 

" Nasta prasna position of Mandi should be used when rectifying

Navamsa lagna. " Is this correct, or...?

 

Regards,

Maya

 

Hari Om Tat Sat

 

 

 

sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> Dear Maja, Namaskar

>

> If its Mithuna in nashta prasna (also got it) then Kumbha Lagna

for

> nashta rasi (trikona).

>

>

> In Navamsa I have Chandra in Meena. We choose between prthvi and

airy

> sign so even if Dhanus is stronger, its more for vayu as Mithuna

is Vayu.

>

> With Makara there is no younger sibling, with Aq native is the

oldest..

> With Kumbha spouse is the youngest. Also August 87 per Sudarshana

for

> Kumbha gives Sg/Ta for Su/Lg progression. Sg aspects UL whilst Ta

lord

> is Venus in seventh. Its also Shukra-Shani where anubhava falls in

> seventh and Shani aspcts Venus in seventh and activate the UL in

second

> and A7 in fifth from it. Narayana dasa its Ta-Ta where is Gu

lording

> Sanghatika Tara (marriage) and lord is in seventh Venus.

>

> 9H from UL is touched by Ma/Ke and in eight bhava for *Kumbha*

which

> connected child, seperation and legal cases.

>

>

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal

>

>

> Maja Strbac pisze:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Dear K,

> > Namaste

> >

> > (I am sending this email for the second time, I don't get what

> > happened yesterday)

> >

> > You are most welcome for the link.

> >

> > OK, prasna from yesterday:

> >

> > 07th of August 2008.

> > Time: 19:41:00 (PM of course)

> > Time zone: 02h East of GMT

> > Location: 20 E 30; 44 N 50

> >

> > You should get Mithuna D9 lagna and Sukra on it in that prasna.

> >

> > For the starting point let's try to find your correct lagna, and

> > check rest of divisional charts to fit them somehow in your life

> > story later.

> >

> > I think your rasi lagna is Makar. Here is why.

> >

> > D9 in prasna, there is Chandra/Mangal in Dhanu, 7th bhava, so

this

> > rasi is stronger. If we observe Dhanu rasi for purposes of

> > rectification, than you can find Mangal in 9th bhava in your Rasi

> > chart when it is rectified on Makar lagna. I think that this

could

> > be good enough reason to give more chances to Makar.

> >

> > For this following I am not sure if it is correctly used:

Observe D9

> > in prasna from Dhanu and look at trines. Ma/Ch/Sa/Ra/Bu. Two

Grahas

> > from this list (Ma/Ra) are related to Makar lagna in your rasi

> > chart.

> >

> > Let's wait a little to be sure.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Maya

> >

> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> >

> > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40>,

> > " k4t07 " <her_asha@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Maja, Pranams

> > >

> > > Sure it is ok to ask. My data is:

> > >

> > > 29 July 1965

> > > Place: Nairobi, Kenya

> > > Time: Between 6:45PM and 8:00PM

> > >

> > > Key events (I don't yet know how to use these to rectify

charts)

> > > 1. Broke left leg badly in 1973, fractured left arm in 1976

> > > 3. Married in Aug 1987 (after 1 year engagement)

> > > 4. Graduated BSc honours in Science and Computing in 1992

> > > 5. Daughter born 9 March 1999, Hemel Hempstead, UK. 7:55pm-

8:05pm

> > > 6. Filed for divorce April 2002.

> > > 7. Got a place to do a MSC in 1994 but had to abandon even

before

> > > starting as ex husband filed another court case.

> > > 8. No job since 1998

> > >

> > > The time range puts the lagna either in capricorn or aquarous

and

> > > further if it is capricorn then the moon can be either in 7th

or

> > 8th

> > > house.

> > >

> > > Any light you and any others can shed, I would be so grateful.

My

> > > life has been a complete nightmare for the last decade. I have

> > lost

> > > count of how many court cases bought by my ex, that I have had

to

> > > endure and fight in the last 6 years. They are for contact with

> > our

> > > young daughter and for the joint house. The marriage was always

> > > abusive but when my young daughter told me what where he was

> > > touching her, I reported the abuse and filed for divorce. That

was

> > > in early 2002. Since then I have been fighting in the courts to

> > > prevent unsupervised and overnight contact. This I finally

lost a

> > > couple of months ago and at this moment she is staying with him

> > for

> > > a week. He also now has overnight weekend contact every

alternate

> > > weekends.

> > >

> > > I also lost the house court case with him able to force the

sale

> > of

> > > the house and get a significant % of the equity. However,

there is

> > a

> > > possibility in asking the court permission to appeal. Whether

> > > permission is granted and then whether appeal will succeed in

my

> > > getting the whole house (he made this offer of no maintenance

and

> > I

> > > get whole house twice and then retracted) is another factor.

> > Besides

> > > this although the house has been up for sale for last 7 months

it

> > > has not sold and also the estate agent went out of businees. A

new

> > > one has now been appointed.

> > >

> > >

> > > Thank you so much for the link to Visti's article and lecture.

I

> > > missed that completely.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Thank you again

> > >

> > > -K

> > >

> > > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40>,

> > " Maja Strbac " <majastrbacastro@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Dear K,

> > > > Namaste

> > > >

> > > > Is it ok to ask you to post us your birth data?

> > > >

> > > > (Curiosity, yes, it killed that cat, I know... :) If the

answer

> > > > is " YES " , here we are waiting)

> > > >

> > > > Hey there... could it be that you did not find this article

on

> > > > Visti's website?

> > > >

> > > > http://www.srigaruda.com/articles/2004/12/25/nashta-jataka-

the-

> > <http://www.srigaruda.com/articles/2004/12/25/nashta-jataka-the->

> > > lost-

> > > > horoscope/

> > > >

> > > > Try it, why not. Here is one quotation from it:

> > > >

> > > > " From the navamsa lagna in prasna, one will know the rasi

lagna

> > at

> > > > birth. "

> > > >

> > > > I am waiting for your birth data to check prasna chart (just

to

> > > give

> > > > you my opinion. I hope that I will not make more confusion to

> > your

> > > > chart then it is there already)

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Maya

> > > >

> > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40>,

> > " k4t07 " <her_asha@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Gurujans, Pranams

> > > > >

> > > > > I know this is a v v basic question for the calibre of

some of

> > > the

> > > > > SJC gurus and students who post here. But I am attempting

to

> > fix

> > > > my

> > > > > lagna. As there is no record of my birth time and my mother

> > does

> > > > not

> > > > > remember the extact time. The lagna is either capricorn or

> > > aquerous

> > > > >

> > > > > I have availed of the services of several good jyotishes.

Some

> > > > have

> > > > > said the lagna is capricorn and given me readings and

remedies

> > > and

> > > > > other have said it is aquarious and given obviously other

> > > reasons

> > > > > for the mess my life is and different remedies. No remedy

has

> > > > worked

> > > > > and I see no end to the terror, hounding and persecution

by my

> > > ex

> > > > > husband.

> > > > >

> > > > > The irony is that it has been the trigger to my learning

> > > jyotish.

> > > > I

> > > > > can rectify navamsa and other divisions but in all the

> > lectures

> > > by

> > > > > visti, sanjayji and others I have not been able to find a

way

> > to

> > > > > acertain rasi lagna.

> > > > >

> > > > > Could anyone point me in the direction of where I can find

a

> > > > lesson

> > > > > by Visti or a book where I can learn about how to look at a

> > rasi

> > > > > chart and acertain what the lagna is going to be.

> > > > >

> > > > > In my case going by past event it CAN be either aquarous

or it

> > > CAN

> > > > > it capricorn!

> > > > >

> > > > > with thanks

> > > > > -K

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Dear Rafal Ji,

Namaste

 

Maybe I would not be confused if I asked you to use these shortcuts:

 

N- for Native rasi chart, D9 chart, etc.

P- for Prasna rasi chat, D9 chart, etc.

 

If I join these two parts from your email:

 

1. " the rasi lagna of nashta-rasi must be in " + 2. " from Nashta

Prashna Navamsa Lagna or seventh from it (if stronger). "

 

than I am loosing you somewhere. Is this all about Prasna chart only?

 

Regards,

Maja

 

Hari Om Tat Sat

 

 

sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> Dear Maja, Namaskar

>

> Grahas in trikona will show us which sign has the strongest

chance, but

> the rasi lagna of nashta-rasi must be in:

>

> a) trikona

>

> b) or paka rasi

>

> c) or rasi lorded by planet in Lagna (for example if Rahu is in

Navamsa

> then it can be Kumbha Lagna for nashta-rasi)

>

> from Nashta Prashna Navamsa Lagna or seventh from it (if stronger).

>

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal

>

>

>

> Maja Strbac pisze:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> > Dear Rafal Ji, namaste

> >

> > Two different prasna charts and same result... wow. So, when

> > rectifying we should always give advantage to tatva in Nasta

prasna

> > D9 rather than grahas in trikona, correct?

> >

> > I know it is too much to expect that you still have that prasna

> > chart, but if there is any chance that you do, please send my

data.

> > I would like to see that chart.

> >

> > This is from your email:

> >

> > " We choose between prthvi and airy

> > > sign so even if Dhanus is stronger, its more for vayu as

Mithuna

> > is Vayu. "

> >

> > Why prithivi mentioned?

> >

> > It is deffinetely Kumbha lagna. Narayana Mahadasa 1994. is Kanya

> > rasi, A6. This lady said it was time when her husband started

legal

> > process.

> >

> > Can we go on with rectifying D9 lagna in her chart? But first,

lets

> > agree which prasna chart we shall use (ok, I do know it is all

same,

> > but let's stick to one prasna chart. It is easier to follow. OK?)

> >

> > " Nasta prasna position of Mandi should be used when rectifying

> > Navamsa lagna. " Is this correct, or...?

> >

> > Regards,

> > Maya

> >

> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> >

> > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40>,

> > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> > >

> > > If its Mithuna in nashta prasna (also got it) then Kumbha Lagna

> > for

> > > nashta rasi (trikona).

> > >

> > >

> > > In Navamsa I have Chandra in Meena. We choose between prthvi

and

> > airy

> > > sign so even if Dhanus is stronger, its more for vayu as

Mithuna

> > is Vayu.

> > >

> > > With Makara there is no younger sibling, with Aq native is the

> > oldest..

> > > With Kumbha spouse is the youngest. Also August 87 per

Sudarshana

> > for

> > > Kumbha gives Sg/Ta for Su/Lg progression. Sg aspects UL whilst

Ta

> > lord

> > > is Venus in seventh. Its also Shukra-Shani where anubhava

falls in

> > > seventh and Shani aspcts Venus in seventh and activate the UL

in

> > second

> > > and A7 in fifth from it. Narayana dasa its Ta-Ta where is Gu

> > lording

> > > Sanghatika Tara (marriage) and lord is in seventh Venus.

> > >

> > > 9H from UL is touched by Ma/Ke and in eight bhava for *Kumbha*

> > which

> > > connected child, seperation and legal cases.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > > www: http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> / email: rafal@

> > >

> > >

> > > Maja Strbac pisze:

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Dear K,

> > > > Namaste

> > > >

> > > > (I am sending this email for the second time, I don't get

what

> > > > happened yesterday)

> > > >

> > > > You are most welcome for the link.

> > > >

> > > > OK, prasna from yesterday:

> > > >

> > > > 07th of August 2008.

> > > > Time: 19:41:00 (PM of course)

> > > > Time zone: 02h East of GMT

> > > > Location: 20 E 30; 44 N 50

> > > >

> > > > You should get Mithuna D9 lagna and Sukra on it in that

prasna.

> > > >

> > > > For the starting point let's try to find your correct lagna,

and

> > > > check rest of divisional charts to fit them somehow in your

life

> > > > story later.

> > > >

> > > > I think your rasi lagna is Makar. Here is why.

> > > >

> > > > D9 in prasna, there is Chandra/Mangal in Dhanu, 7th bhava, so

> > this

> > > > rasi is stronger. If we observe Dhanu rasi for purposes of

> > > > rectification, than you can find Mangal in 9th bhava in your

Rasi

> > > > chart when it is rectified on Makar lagna. I think that this

> > could

> > > > be good enough reason to give more chances to Makar.

> > > >

> > > > For this following I am not sure if it is correctly used:

> > Observe D9

> > > > in prasna from Dhanu and look at trines. Ma/Ch/Sa/Ra/Bu. Two

> > Grahas

> > > > from this list (Ma/Ra) are related to Makar lagna in your

rasi

> > > > chart.

> > > >

> > > > Let's wait a little to be sure.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Maya

> > > >

> > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40>

> > <sohamsa%

> > 40>,

> > > > " k4t07 " <her_asha@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Maja, Pranams

> > > > >

> > > > > Sure it is ok to ask. My data is:

> > > > >

> > > > > 29 July 1965

> > > > > Place: Nairobi, Kenya

> > > > > Time: Between 6:45PM and 8:00PM

> > > > >

> > > > > Key events (I don't yet know how to use these to rectify

> > charts)

> > > > > 1. Broke left leg badly in 1973, fractured left arm in 1976

> > > > > 3. Married in Aug 1987 (after 1 year engagement)

> > > > > 4. Graduated BSc honours in Science and Computing in 1992

> > > > > 5. Daughter born 9 March 1999, Hemel Hempstead, UK. 7:55pm-

> > 8:05pm

> > > > > 6. Filed for divorce April 2002.

> > > > > 7. Got a place to do a MSC in 1994 but had to abandon even

> > before

> > > > > starting as ex husband filed another court case.

> > > > > 8. No job since 1998

> > > > >

> > > > > The time range puts the lagna either in capricorn or

aquarous

> > and

> > > > > further if it is capricorn then the moon can be either in

7th

> > or

> > > > 8th

> > > > > house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any light you and any others can shed, I would be so

grateful.

> > My

> > > > > life has been a complete nightmare for the last decade. I

have

> > > > lost

> > > > > count of how many court cases bought by my ex, that I have

had

> > to

> > > > > endure and fight in the last 6 years. They are for contact

with

> > > > our

> > > > > young daughter and for the joint house. The marriage was

always

> > > > > abusive but when my young daughter told me what where he

was

> > > > > touching her, I reported the abuse and filed for divorce.

That

> > was

> > > > > in early 2002. Since then I have been fighting in the

courts to

> > > > > prevent unsupervised and overnight contact. This I finally

> > lost a

> > > > > couple of months ago and at this moment she is staying

with him

> > > > for

> > > > > a week. He also now has overnight weekend contact every

> > alternate

> > > > > weekends.

> > > > >

> > > > > I also lost the house court case with him able to force the

> > sale

> > > > of

> > > > > the house and get a significant % of the equity. However,

> > there is

> > > > a

> > > > > possibility in asking the court permission to appeal.

Whether

> > > > > permission is granted and then whether appeal will succeed

in

> > my

> > > > > getting the whole house (he made this offer of no

maintenance

> > and

> > > > I

> > > > > get whole house twice and then retracted) is another

factor.

> > > > Besides

> > > > > this although the house has been up for sale for last 7

months

> > it

> > > > > has not sold and also the estate agent went out of

businees. A

> > new

> > > > > one has now been appointed.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you so much for the link to Visti's article and

lecture.

> > I

> > > > > missed that completely.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you again

> > > > >

> > > > > -K

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa

> > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa%

> > 40>,

> > > > " Maja Strbac " <majastrbacastro@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear K,

> > > > > > Namaste

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Is it ok to ask you to post us your birth data?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (Curiosity, yes, it killed that cat, I know... :) If the

> > answer

> > > > > > is " YES " , here we are waiting)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hey there... could it be that you did not find this

article

> > on

> > > > > > Visti's website?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://www.srigaruda.com/articles/2004/12/25/nashta-

jataka-

> > <http://www.srigaruda.com/articles/2004/12/25/nashta-jataka->

> > the-

> > > > <http://www.srigaruda.com/articles/2004/12/25/nashta-jataka-

the-

> > <http://www.srigaruda.com/articles/2004/12/25/nashta-jataka-the-

>>

> > > > > lost-

> > > > > > horoscope/

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Try it, why not. Here is one quotation from it:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " From the navamsa lagna in prasna, one will know the rasi

> > lagna

> > > > at

> > > > > > birth. "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am waiting for your birth data to check prasna chart

(just

> > to

> > > > > give

> > > > > > you my opinion. I hope that I will not make more

confusion to

> > > > your

> > > > > > chart then it is there already)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Maya

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa

> > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa%

> > 40>,

> > > > " k4t07 " <her_asha@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Gurujans, Pranams

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I know this is a v v basic question for the calibre of

> > some of

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > SJC gurus and students who post here. But I am

attempting

> > to

> > > > fix

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > lagna. As there is no record of my birth time and my

mother

> > > > does

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > remember the extact time. The lagna is either

capricorn or

> > > > > aquerous

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have availed of the services of several good

jyotishes.

> > Some

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > said the lagna is capricorn and given me readings and

> > remedies

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > other have said it is aquarious and given obviously

other

> > > > > reasons

> > > > > > > for the mess my life is and different remedies. No

remedy

> > has

> > > > > > worked

> > > > > > > and I see no end to the terror, hounding and

persecution

> > by my

> > > > > ex

> > > > > > > husband.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The irony is that it has been the trigger to my

learning

> > > > > jyotish.

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > can rectify navamsa and other divisions but in all the

> > > > lectures

> > > > > by

> > > > > > > visti, sanjayji and others I have not been able to

find a

> > way

> > > > to

> > > > > > > acertain rasi lagna.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Could anyone point me in the direction of where I can

find

> > a

> > > > > > lesson

> > > > > > > by Visti or a book where I can learn about how to look

at a

> > > > rasi

> > > > > > > chart and acertain what the lagna is going to be.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In my case going by past event it CAN be either

aquarous

> > or it

> > > > > CAN

> > > > > > > it capricorn!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > with thanks

> > > > > > > -K

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

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