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Namaste Tijana,

 

Thank you for a nice exposition. What you wrote is well-taken.

 

> That is why chastity and bramacarya has always been> considered the highest virtue. No YOga can happen without chastity.

 

That is absolutely correct. Brahmacharya and control of one's sexual thoughts is quite needed to make spiritual progress.

 

If anybody maintains brahmacharya for one year while performing a 45 minute homam everyday or meditating with Gayatri mantra (or some other mantra) for 3 hours everyday, definitely he/she will cross some important hurdles and make some good progress.

 

> It is clear why it is even more important for women to be chaste and> pious considering the strength of Moon and Venus in her body-gross and> causal.

 

Chastity and brahmacharya are *equally important* for men and women to make spiritual progress. But the level of difficulty one experiences in controlling the mind depends on various factors such as gender and, more importantly, mental conditioning acquired from previous lives.

 

> At least, Somannath drekana should be checked for the period of poojas> to see how the dasas support celibacy vow that is usually required in> the cases of sadhanas whose aim is spiritual elevation.

Well, two relevant points:

 

(1) The astrology we know and understand is imperfect without a doubt. Even knowledge taught unambiguously by Maharshi Parasara is so misunderstood in this age. Then what to speak of knowledge not found in the available teachings of Parasara and available in the "secrets" of various paramparas? It is quite prone to corruptions and misunderstanding. Can we *rely* on it?

 

(2) Astrology, even when understood perfectly, only predicts the predisposition at a given time due to the dynamics of *previous* actions (karmas). The dynamics of previous actions decides under what kind of circumstances one has to operate now. Those circumstances can place *limitations* on what actions can be performed *now*. Depending on the seriousness of previous actions deciding the current circumstances, the limitations can be either mere challenges or serious handicaps. But, in most cases, there are multiple actions possible currently. Horoscope only decides the situations faced now. The actions performed *now* are based on *free will* exerted now, which is NOT captured by the horoscope.

 

If there is one good thing to use free will for, spiritual progress is definitely *the* thing. One should push one's free will to the extreme when it comes to spiritual progress. It is worth it! Forget somanatha drekkana and other tenets of astrology. When the inspiration comes from within, just boldly take a vow, pray to god and your guru (if you have no guru, think of me or my Guru Dr Manish Pandit) and do your best to keep the vow.

 

* * *

 

 

Even if one cannot keep brahmacharya, one can still do spiritual practices like homam and japam. It will atleast keep one floating (i.e. not sinking). Basically, one will keep accumulating shakti (purity) and keep consuming it. So purification is slow. But atleast there is no further impurification. With brahmacharya, one can actually start accumulating shakti and purify oneself much faster.

 

 

* * *

 

Regarding women doing sadhanas:

A great Vedic scholar known as Upasani maharaj lived at the time of Shirdi Sai Baba, about 100 years back. He was learned in several Vedas and Upanishads and did tremendous sadhana. Once he realized Self, he threw away his orthodoxy and went against the customs of the time boldly. He went and lived in Harijanwada (untouchables colony), swept the floors there and forced the Brahmins from Brahmanawada (Brahmins colony) who revered him highly to come *there* if they wanted to see him! He opened a Vedic school for women and taught them chanting Vedic mantras and performing traditional yajnas. He gave women of all births sacred thread and initiated them into vedic mantras and yajnas.

 

When Shridi Sai Baba saw him oneday, he said "Upasani is God Himself. Today we will do pooja to Upasani!" and made his disciples do a pooja to Upasani maharaj.

 

A temple run by women stands in the place of Upasani maharaj, a few miles away from Shirdi. If anyone goes to Shirdi, it is a good idea to go to that temple. Though it has no rush, it has very nice energy. It is a great place to meditate.

 

Also, Krishna temple at Alandi near Pune where Sant Jnaneshwar Maharaj went into underground samadhi 700 years back (believed to be there even now) has a tremendous level of spiritual energy. It is also a great place for productive meditation.

 

Best regards,NarasimhaDo a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

sohamsa , "Tijana Damjanovic" <tijanadamjanovic wrote:>> om krishna guru> Dear Ana and other members of the thread,> > Difference exists and it makes the world go round, which is perfectly> fine. After it is understood properly, no pots and pans will be needed> to define anyones role or place under the sun...that shines the same> to one and all. :)> Shrimad Devi Bhagavatam (one of the Upapuranas) states that sexual> urge is much stronger in the case of women. This is not surprising as> sexual urge is produced and governed by the liquid fluctuation in the> body (watter, blood, semen and hormones in the first place). This> fluctuation is much higher in woman`s body due to the predominance of> jala tatva in her body governed by planets Moon and Venus. These two> planets are also responsible for the producing of the ojas (the> finniest energetic product of our body that makes the brain function> properly, it is often understood as a vigor, vitality and procreative> power). In general, this means that women can produce more ojas than man.> How is this related to poojas and spirituality?> Sexual energy, or sexual thoughts, are being transformed into ojas in> the process of yoga. The process of yoga as one of its aim has lifting> of the ojas from its storage in the primal chakra and its storing in> the brain. The more ojas in the brain the prettier, smarter and more> spiritual we are. But this lifting of the ojas can be done ONLY by> chaste ones. That is why chastity and bramacarya has always been> considered the highest virtue. No YOga can happen without chastity. It> is clear why it is even more important for women to be chaste and> pious considering the strength of Moon and Venus in her body-gross and> causal.> Without chastity, yogic pratice can lead into a mental disorder as> ojas and prana directly influence the work of the brain centres. Thus> it is crucial how demanding and serious the homam or pooja in> question, or any other, is. Prohibition during the monthly cycle is> based upon this also-increasing of the jala tatva and the sexual urge.> At least, Somannath drekana should be checked for the period of poojas> to see how the dasas support celibacy vow that is usually required in> the cases of sadhanas whose aim is spiritual elevation. > The approaches to the final truth may be numerous and different, but> all of them must find their path through the Sushumna. The one who> claims that this path is hidden or blocked to women simply lacks ojas> in his/her brain.> Regards,> Tijana Damjanovic> > P.S. Ana, odakle si?

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Dear Tijana & other members,

 

YES..If we go by the words of 'realised greats', there is NO

Alternative to Brahmacharya (mainly Sexual energy part of

Brahmacharya).

 

Swami Vivekananda Says in Rajyoga that complete abstinence from Sex

is a must.

 

he also mentions in one of his books dedicated to 'Woman' that

Marraiges are primarily a Facility provided to weak people.

 

I am convinced that Brahmacharya is a the penultimate goal for

Spiritual people. without that one will not progress much.

 

some time back i uploaded 'Manual of Brahacharya' in file section of

Vedic-Wisdom group. It is written by Swami Sivananda. It is worth

reading. nay.. it is a MUST reading.

 

Best Regards,

 

Utpal

 

sohamsa , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr

wrote:

>

> Namaste Tijana,

>

> Thank you for a nice exposition. What you wrote is well-taken.

>

> > That is why chastity and bramacarya has always been

> > considered the highest virtue. No YOga can happen without

chastity.

>

> That is absolutely correct. Brahmacharya and control of one's

sexual thoughts is quite needed to make spiritual progress.

>

> If anybody maintains brahmacharya for one year while performing a

45 minute homam everyday or meditating with Gayatri mantra (or some

other mantra) for 3 hours everyday, definitely he/she will cross

some important hurdles and make some good progress.

>

> > It is clear why it is even more important for women to be chaste

and

> > pious considering the strength of Moon and Venus in her body-

gross and

> > causal.

>

> Chastity and brahmacharya are *equally important* for men and

women to make spiritual progress. But the level of difficulty one

experiences in controlling the mind depends on various factors such

as gender and, more importantly, mental conditioning acquired from

previous lives.

>

> > At least, Somannath drekana should be checked for the period of

poojas

> > to see how the dasas support celibacy vow that is usually

required in

> > the cases of sadhanas whose aim is spiritual elevation.

>

> Well, two relevant points:

>

> (1) The astrology we know and understand is imperfect without a

doubt. Even knowledge taught unambiguously by Maharshi Parasara is

so misunderstood in this age. Then what to speak of knowledge not

found in the available teachings of Parasara and available in

the " secrets " of various paramparas? It is quite prone to

corruptions and misunderstanding. Can we *rely* on it?

>

> (2) Astrology, even when understood perfectly, only predicts the

predisposition at a given time due to the dynamics of *previous*

actions (karmas). The dynamics of previous actions decides under

what kind of circumstances one has to operate now. Those

circumstances can place *limitations* on what actions can be

performed *now*. Depending on the seriousness of previous actions

deciding the current circumstances, the limitations can be either

mere challenges or serious handicaps. But, in most cases, there are

multiple actions possible currently. Horoscope only decides the

situations faced now. The actions performed *now* are based on *free

will* exerted now, which is NOT captured by the horoscope.

>

> If there is one good thing to use free will for, spiritual

progress is definitely *the* thing. One should push one's free will

to the extreme when it comes to spiritual progress. It is worth it!

Forget somanatha drekkana and other tenets of astrology. When the

inspiration comes from within, just boldly take a vow, pray to god

and your guru (if you have no guru, think of me or my Guru Dr Manish

Pandit) and do your best to keep the vow.

>

> * * *

>

> Even if one cannot keep brahmacharya, one can still do spiritual

practices like homam and japam. It will atleast keep one floating

(i.e. not sinking). Basically, one will keep accumulating shakti

(purity) and keep consuming it. So purification is slow. But atleast

there is no further impurification. With brahmacharya, one can

actually start accumulating shakti and purify oneself much faster.

>

> * * *

>

> Regarding women doing sadhanas:

>

> A great Vedic scholar known as Upasani maharaj lived at the time

of Shirdi Sai Baba, about 100 years back. He was learned in several

Vedas and Upanishads and did tremendous sadhana. Once he realized

Self, he threw away his orthodoxy and went against the customs of

the time boldly. He went and lived in Harijanwada (untouchables

colony), swept the floors there and forced the Brahmins from

Brahmanawada (Brahmins colony) who revered him highly to come

*there* if they wanted to see him! He opened a Vedic school for

women and taught them chanting Vedic mantras and performing

traditional yajnas. He gave women of all births sacred thread and

initiated them into vedic mantras and yajnas.

>

> When Shridi Sai Baba saw him oneday, he said " Upasani is God

Himself. Today we will do pooja to Upasani! " and made his disciples

do a pooja to Upasani maharaj.

>

> A temple run by women stands in the place of Upasani maharaj, a

few miles away from Shirdi. If anyone goes to Shirdi, it is a good

idea to go to that temple. Though it has no rush, it has very nice

energy. It is a great place to meditate.

>

> Also, Krishna temple at Alandi near Pune where Sant Jnaneshwar

Maharaj went into underground samadhi 700 years back (believed to be

there even now) has a tremendous level of spiritual energy. It is

also a great place for productive meditation.

>

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

>

> Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

> Spirituality:

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

>

>

> sohamsa , " Tijana Damjanovic "

<tijanadamjanovic@> wrote:

> >

> > om krishna guru

> > Dear Ana and other members of the thread,

> >

> > Difference exists and it makes the world go round, which is

perfectly

> > fine. After it is understood properly, no pots and pans will be

needed

> > to define anyones role or place under the sun...that shines the

same

> > to one and all. :)

> > Shrimad Devi Bhagavatam (one of the Upapuranas) states that

sexual

> > urge is much stronger in the case of women. This is not

surprising as

> > sexual urge is produced and governed by the liquid fluctuation

in the

> > body (watter, blood, semen and hormones in the first place). This

> > fluctuation is much higher in woman`s body due to the

predominance of

> > jala tatva in her body governed by planets Moon and Venus. These

two

> > planets are also responsible for the producing of the ojas (the

> > finniest energetic product of our body that makes the brain

function

> > properly, it is often understood as a vigor, vitality and

procreative

> > power). In general, this means that women can produce more ojas

than man.

> > How is this related to poojas and spirituality?

> > Sexual energy, or sexual thoughts, are being transformed into

ojas in

> > the process of yoga. The process of yoga as one of its aim has

lifting

> > of the ojas from its storage in the primal chakra and its

storing in

> > the brain. The more ojas in the brain the prettier, smarter and

more

> > spiritual we are. But this lifting of the ojas can be done ONLY

by

> > chaste ones. That is why chastity and bramacarya has always been

> > considered the highest virtue. No YOga can happen without

chastity. It

> > is clear why it is even more important for women to be chaste and

> > pious considering the strength of Moon and Venus in her body-

gross and

> > causal.

> > Without chastity, yogic pratice can lead into a mental disorder

as

> > ojas and prana directly influence the work of the brain centres.

Thus

> > it is crucial how demanding and serious the homam or pooja in

> > question, or any other, is. Prohibition during the monthly cycle

is

> > based upon this also-increasing of the jala tatva and the sexual

urge.

> > At least, Somannath drekana should be checked for the period of

poojas

> > to see how the dasas support celibacy vow that is usually

required in

> > the cases of sadhanas whose aim is spiritual elevation.

> > The approaches to the final truth may be numerous and different,

but

> > all of them must find their path through the Sushumna. The one

who

> > claims that this path is hidden or blocked to women simply lacks

ojas

> > in his/her brain.

> > Regards,

> > Tijana Damjanovic

> >

> > P.S. Ana, odakle si?

>

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Dear Tijana & other members,

 

YES..If we go by the words of 'realised greats', there is NO

Alternative to Brahmacharya (mainly Sexual energy part of

Brahmacharya).

 

Swami Vivekananda Says in Rajyoga that complete abstinence from Sex

is a must.

 

he also mentions in one of his books dedicated to 'Woman' that

Marraiges are primarily a Facility provided to weak people.

 

I am convinced that Brahmacharya is a the penultimate goal for

Spiritual people. without that one will not progress much.

 

some time back i uploaded 'Manual of Brahacharya' in file section of

Vedic-Wisdom group. It is written by Swami Sivananda. It is worth

reading. nay.. it is a MUST reading.

 

Best Regards,

 

Utpal

 

 

sohamsa , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr

wrote:

>

> Namaste Tijana,

>

> Thank you for a nice exposition. What you wrote is well-taken.

>

> > That is why chastity and bramacarya has always been

> > considered the highest virtue. No YOga can happen without

chastity.

>

> That is absolutely correct. Brahmacharya and control of one's

sexual thoughts is quite needed to make spiritual progress.

>

> If anybody maintains brahmacharya for one year while performing a

45 minute homam everyday or meditating with Gayatri mantra (or some

other mantra) for 3 hours everyday, definitely he/she will cross

some important hurdles and make some good progress.

>

> > It is clear why it is even more important for women to be chaste

and

> > pious considering the strength of Moon and Venus in her body-

gross and

> > causal.

>

> Chastity and brahmacharya are *equally important* for men and

women to make spiritual progress. But the level of difficulty one

experiences in controlling the mind depends on various factors such

as gender and, more importantly, mental conditioning acquired from

previous lives.

>

> > At least, Somannath drekana should be checked for the period of

poojas

> > to see how the dasas support celibacy vow that is usually

required in

> > the cases of sadhanas whose aim is spiritual elevation.

>

> Well, two relevant points:

>

> (1) The astrology we know and understand is imperfect without a

doubt. Even knowledge taught unambiguously by Maharshi Parasara is

so misunderstood in this age. Then what to speak of knowledge not

found in the available teachings of Parasara and available in

the " secrets " of various paramparas? It is quite prone to

corruptions and misunderstanding. Can we *rely* on it?

>

> (2) Astrology, even when understood perfectly, only predicts the

predisposition at a given time due to the dynamics of *previous*

actions (karmas). The dynamics of previous actions decides under

what kind of circumstances one has to operate now. Those

circumstances can place *limitations* on what actions can be

performed *now*. Depending on the seriousness of previous actions

deciding the current circumstances, the limitations can be either

mere challenges or serious handicaps. But, in most cases, there are

multiple actions possible currently. Horoscope only decides the

situations faced now. The actions performed *now* are based on *free

will* exerted now, which is NOT captured by the horoscope.

>

> If there is one good thing to use free will for, spiritual

progress is definitely *the* thing. One should push one's free will

to the extreme when it comes to spiritual progress. It is worth it!

Forget somanatha drekkana and other tenets of astrology. When the

inspiration comes from within, just boldly take a vow, pray to god

and your guru (if you have no guru, think of me or my Guru Dr Manish

Pandit) and do your best to keep the vow.

>

> * * *

>

> Even if one cannot keep brahmacharya, one can still do spiritual

practices like homam and japam. It will atleast keep one floating

(i.e. not sinking). Basically, one will keep accumulating shakti

(purity) and keep consuming it. So purification is slow. But atleast

there is no further impurification. With brahmacharya, one can

actually start accumulating shakti and purify oneself much faster.

>

> * * *

>

> Regarding women doing sadhanas:

>

> A great Vedic scholar known as Upasani maharaj lived at the time

of Shirdi Sai Baba, about 100 years back. He was learned in several

Vedas and Upanishads and did tremendous sadhana. Once he realized

Self, he threw away his orthodoxy and went against the customs of

the time boldly. He went and lived in Harijanwada (untouchables

colony), swept the floors there and forced the Brahmins from

Brahmanawada (Brahmins colony) who revered him highly to come

*there* if they wanted to see him! He opened a Vedic school for

women and taught them chanting Vedic mantras and performing

traditional yajnas. He gave women of all births sacred thread and

initiated them into vedic mantras and yajnas.

>

> When Shridi Sai Baba saw him oneday, he said " Upasani is God

Himself. Today we will do pooja to Upasani! " and made his disciples

do a pooja to Upasani maharaj.

>

> A temple run by women stands in the place of Upasani maharaj, a

few miles away from Shirdi. If anyone goes to Shirdi, it is a good

idea to go to that temple. Though it has no rush, it has very nice

energy. It is a great place to meditate.

>

> Also, Krishna temple at Alandi near Pune where Sant Jnaneshwar

Maharaj went into underground samadhi 700 years back (believed to be

there even now) has a tremendous level of spiritual energy. It is

also a great place for productive meditation.

>

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

>

> Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

> Spirituality:

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

>

>

> sohamsa , " Tijana Damjanovic "

<tijanadamjanovic@> wrote:

> >

> > om krishna guru

> > Dear Ana and other members of the thread,

> >

> > Difference exists and it makes the world go round, which is

perfectly

> > fine. After it is understood properly, no pots and pans will be

needed

> > to define anyones role or place under the sun...that shines the

same

> > to one and all. :)

> > Shrimad Devi Bhagavatam (one of the Upapuranas) states that

sexual

> > urge is much stronger in the case of women. This is not

surprising as

> > sexual urge is produced and governed by the liquid fluctuation

in the

> > body (watter, blood, semen and hormones in the first place). This

> > fluctuation is much higher in woman`s body due to the

predominance of

> > jala tatva in her body governed by planets Moon and Venus. These

two

> > planets are also responsible for the producing of the ojas (the

> > finniest energetic product of our body that makes the brain

function

> > properly, it is often understood as a vigor, vitality and

procreative

> > power). In general, this means that women can produce more ojas

than man.

> > How is this related to poojas and spirituality?

> > Sexual energy, or sexual thoughts, are being transformed into

ojas in

> > the process of yoga. The process of yoga as one of its aim has

lifting

> > of the ojas from its storage in the primal chakra and its

storing in

> > the brain. The more ojas in the brain the prettier, smarter and

more

> > spiritual we are. But this lifting of the ojas can be done ONLY

by

> > chaste ones. That is why chastity and bramacarya has always been

> > considered the highest virtue. No YOga can happen without

chastity. It

> > is clear why it is even more important for women to be chaste and

> > pious considering the strength of Moon and Venus in her body-

gross and

> > causal.

> > Without chastity, yogic pratice can lead into a mental disorder

as

> > ojas and prana directly influence the work of the brain centres.

Thus

> > it is crucial how demanding and serious the homam or pooja in

> > question, or any other, is. Prohibition during the monthly cycle

is

> > based upon this also-increasing of the jala tatva and the sexual

urge.

> > At least, Somannath drekana should be checked for the period of

poojas

> > to see how the dasas support celibacy vow that is usually

required in

> > the cases of sadhanas whose aim is spiritual elevation.

> > The approaches to the final truth may be numerous and different,

but

> > all of them must find their path through the Sushumna. The one

who

> > claims that this path is hidden or blocked to women simply lacks

ojas

> > in his/her brain.

> > Regards,

> > Tijana Damjanovic

> >

> > P.S. Ana, odakle si?

>

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om krishna guru

Dear NArasimha, namaste

 

As for the two relevant point…

Why would we make everything relative if not for the improvement of

the intellect.

But the rules do exist and they make the differences valid, otherwise

the one loses himself easily. It is the difference which gives man a

chance to find a proper way to Self. No one should ever think that

Rishis couldn`t agree on the truth. They had a very good reason to

make and support difference and to provide the rules to preserve it.

Difference is the very essence of Prakriti and the one who doesn`t

appreciate it, doesn`t know nor respect Mother and will hardly reach

the freedom from Her maya.

Thus my free will stays employed in respecting every tradition that

cares about the truth while it follows the one that offers me the

clearest vision.

Regards,

Tijana Damjanovic

 

sohamsa , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote:

>

> Namaste Tijana,

>

> Thank you for a nice exposition. What you wrote is well-taken.

>

> > That is why chastity and bramacarya has always been

> > considered the highest virtue. No YOga can happen without chastity.

>

> That is absolutely correct. Brahmacharya and control of one's sexual

thoughts is quite needed to make spiritual progress.

>

> If anybody maintains brahmacharya for one year while performing a 45

minute homam everyday or meditating with Gayatri mantra (or some other

mantra) for 3 hours everyday, definitely he/she will cross some

important hurdles and make some good progress.

>

> > It is clear why it is even more important for women to be chaste and

> > pious considering the strength of Moon and Venus in her body-gross and

> > causal.

>

> Chastity and brahmacharya are *equally important* for men and women

to make spiritual progress. But the level of difficulty one

experiences in controlling the mind depends on various factors such as

gender and, more importantly, mental conditioning acquired from

previous lives.

>

> > At least, Somannath drekana should be checked for the period of poojas

> > to see how the dasas support celibacy vow that is usually required in

> > the cases of sadhanas whose aim is spiritual elevation.

>

> Well, two relevant points:

>

> (1) The astrology we know and understand is imperfect without a

doubt. Even knowledge taught unambiguously by Maharshi Parasara is so

misunderstood in this age. Then what to speak of knowledge not found

in the available teachings of Parasara and available in the " secrets "

of various paramparas? It is quite prone to corruptions and

misunderstanding. Can we *rely* on it?

>

> (2) Astrology, even when understood perfectly, only predicts the

predisposition at a given time due to the dynamics of *previous*

actions (karmas). The dynamics of previous actions decides under what

kind of circumstances one has to operate now. Those circumstances can

place *limitations* on what actions can be performed *now*. Depending

on the seriousness of previous actions deciding the current

circumstances, the limitations can be either mere challenges or

serious handicaps. But, in most cases, there are multiple actions

possible currently. Horoscope only decides the situations faced now.

The actions performed *now* are based on *free will* exerted now,

which is NOT captured by the horoscope.

>

> If there is one good thing to use free will for, spiritual progress

is definitely *the* thing. One should push one's free will to the

extreme when it comes to spiritual progress. It is worth it! Forget

somanatha drekkana and other tenets of astrology. When the inspiration

comes from within, just boldly take a vow, pray to god and your guru

(if you have no guru, think of me or my Guru Dr Manish Pandit) and do

your best to keep the vow.

>

> * * *

>

> Even if one cannot keep brahmacharya, one can still do spiritual

practices like homam and japam. It will atleast keep one floating

(i.e. not sinking). Basically, one will keep accumulating shakti

(purity) and keep consuming it. So purification is slow. But atleast

there is no further impurification. With brahmacharya, one can

actually start accumulating shakti and purify oneself much faster.

>

> * * *

>

> Regarding women doing sadhanas:

>

> A great Vedic scholar known as Upasani maharaj lived at the time of

Shirdi Sai Baba, about 100 years back. He was learned in several Vedas

and Upanishads and did tremendous sadhana. Once he realized Self, he

threw away his orthodoxy and went against the customs of the time

boldly. He went and lived in Harijanwada (untouchables colony), swept

the floors there and forced the Brahmins from Brahmanawada (Brahmins

colony) who revered him highly to come *there* if they wanted to see

him! He opened a Vedic school for women and taught them chanting Vedic

mantras and performing traditional yajnas. He gave women of all births

sacred thread and initiated them into vedic mantras and yajnas.

>

> When Shridi Sai Baba saw him oneday, he said " Upasani is God

Himself. Today we will do pooja to Upasani! " and made his disciples do

a pooja to Upasani maharaj.

>

> A temple run by women stands in the place of Upasani maharaj, a few

miles away from Shirdi. If anyone goes to Shirdi, it is a good idea to

go to that temple. Though it has no rush, it has very nice energy. It

is a great place to meditate.

>

> Also, Krishna temple at Alandi near Pune where Sant Jnaneshwar

Maharaj went into underground samadhi 700 years back (believed to be

there even now) has a tremendous level of spiritual energy. It is also

a great place for productive meditation.

>

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

>

> Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

> Spirituality:

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

>

>

> sohamsa , " Tijana Damjanovic "

<tijanadamjanovic@> wrote:

> >

> > om krishna guru

> > Dear Ana and other members of the thread,

> >

> > Difference exists and it makes the world go round, which is perfectly

> > fine. After it is understood properly, no pots and pans will be needed

> > to define anyones role or place under the sun...that shines the same

> > to one and all. :)

> > Shrimad Devi Bhagavatam (one of the Upapuranas) states that sexual

> > urge is much stronger in the case of women. This is not surprising as

> > sexual urge is produced and governed by the liquid fluctuation in the

> > body (watter, blood, semen and hormones in the first place). This

> > fluctuation is much higher in woman`s body due to the predominance of

> > jala tatva in her body governed by planets Moon and Venus. These two

> > planets are also responsible for the producing of the ojas (the

> > finniest energetic product of our body that makes the brain function

> > properly, it is often understood as a vigor, vitality and procreative

> > power). In general, this means that women can produce more ojas

than man.

> > How is this related to poojas and spirituality?

> > Sexual energy, or sexual thoughts, are being transformed into ojas in

> > the process of yoga. The process of yoga as one of its aim has lifting

> > of the ojas from its storage in the primal chakra and its storing in

> > the brain. The more ojas in the brain the prettier, smarter and more

> > spiritual we are. But this lifting of the ojas can be done ONLY by

> > chaste ones. That is why chastity and bramacarya has always been

> > considered the highest virtue. No YOga can happen without chastity. It

> > is clear why it is even more important for women to be chaste and

> > pious considering the strength of Moon and Venus in her body-gross and

> > causal.

> > Without chastity, yogic pratice can lead into a mental disorder as

> > ojas and prana directly influence the work of the brain centres. Thus

> > it is crucial how demanding and serious the homam or pooja in

> > question, or any other, is. Prohibition during the monthly cycle is

> > based upon this also-increasing of the jala tatva and the sexual urge.

> > At least, Somannath drekana should be checked for the period of poojas

> > to see how the dasas support celibacy vow that is usually required in

> > the cases of sadhanas whose aim is spiritual elevation.

> > The approaches to the final truth may be numerous and different, but

> > all of them must find their path through the Sushumna. The one who

> > claims that this path is hidden or blocked to women simply lacks ojas

> > in his/her brain.

> > Regards,

> > Tijana Damjanovic

> >

> > P.S. Ana, odakle si?

>

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