Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 Dear Tijanaji, I am actually replying to the following part of your writeup (at the end of this post), which I found extremely interesting. One opinion I have is that while the scriptures certainly have the perfect and distilled truth in them, interpreting them correctly *within the context of the current age* is no small feat/ not an easy task at all. I understand that Brahmacharya is important, but can you word " Brahmacharya is important " in astrological terms, so we can have a common ground to talk on? i.e does " Brahmacarya is important " translate to, for example, Venus being in Pisces with Jupiter? i.e. powerful in a pure sign and with Guru? This may not be the only combination (or even the right combination), I'm simply looking for one that reflects the *essence* of Brahmacarya. I have heard that Mars is a Brahmachari, but then Venus is ojas, right, so I'm a bit confused as to how Mars shows this essence.. The above is one way to start a discussion i.e. on common and objective astrological ground. Another way is to discuss how exactly to practice Brahmacarya: I think what is *not* mentioned in scriptures (and no one here, strangely enough) is what happens with the blind practice of Brahmacarya, which people loosely understand as sexual abstinence. You very correctly say - ojas is understood as " vigor, vitality and procreative power " , right? Actually the West has a deeper and clearer understanding than you perhaps give them credit for, because " vigor, vitality and procreative power " are actually *effects* of ojas, right, not ojas itself? Because vigor and vitality are the *mental* qualities induced by ojas. The famous Sigmund Freud somehow understood the true meaning of ojas, but not quite, when he (in a sense) called the sexual urge the underlying motivator of all action. The equally famous Carl Jung grasped it a little clearer when he realized that the " sexual " urge in essence was not just sexual, it was actually primal creative *psychic* energy (not *physical* energy), which he termed libido. So, in my understanding when we talk about Brahmacarya, we are actually talking about controlling/channeling the libido. In my personal experience, it is wrong to blindly suppress the *sexual* manifestation of libido. All it does, after a while, is to create depression (and in my case, incessant dreams of death). Libido can never and should never be suppressed, it must be a given a path to flow. So for ordinary aspirants like myself, first the right practices must be developed, i.e. you must find a higher outlet for the libido. Simply crushing the sexual outlet leads to mental problems, IMHO. A lot of people who are heavily into their careers also have very low sexual libidos - does that mean that they are Brahmacharis in the sense used in the scriptures? Not at all, they have simply found another perhaps slightly higher outlet for libido, perhaps at one chakra higher than the average. Also, there is now significant enough information about men who have been castrated. If you check the information on the web, while castration definitely is very effective in crushing sexual libido, it does not lead to spirituality (as you might expect if you read scriptures literally), more often it leads to depression (as I also experienced by voluntary self-restraint). So in my personal experience, in *today's world* you must interpret Brahmacarya as the proper channeling of libido. It is an *attainment* in itself, not merely a tool to attain something else! If you blindly suppress sexual libido, it will quickly manifest elsewhere e.g. one's career could get a boost, or one could develop an uncontrollable urge to eat spicy food, or even to drink alcohol, or one could find more (mental) energy to pursue their(very materialistic) obsession to be " the best " astrologer. Controlling libido is like slowly squeezing an inflated balloon - push it in in one place, and it pops out of another. If you push it in everywhere, you get depressed (balloon explodes). It does not automatically pop out " in the right place " i.e. the one little point sized hole that leads to God. That point must be be cultivated before all this " pushing " is done.. My suspicion is that the people who talk highly of Brahmacarya are either the very fortunate ones who have been blessed with a powerful conception of God from early on, or the confused ones who are obsessively pursuing something else perhaps less materialistic by suppressing sexuality, or those who simply cite scriptures without following the path. Sincerely, Sundeep > > > > > Shrimad Devi Bhagavatam (one of the Upapuranas) states that sexual > > > > > urge is much stronger in the case of women. This is not > surprising as > > > > > sexual urge is produced and governed by the liquid fluctuation > in the > > > > > body (watter, blood, semen and hormones in the first place). This > > > > > fluctuation is much higher in woman`s body due to the > predominance of > > > > > jala tatva in her body governed by planets Moon and Venus. > These two > > > > > planets are also responsible for the producing of the ojas (the > > > > > finniest energetic product of our body that makes the brain > function > > > > > properly, it is often understood as a vigor, vitality and > procreative > > > > > power). In general, this means that women can produce more ojas > > > than man. > > > > > How is this related to poojas and spirituality? > > > > > Sexual energy, or sexual thoughts, are being transformed into > ojas in > > > > > the process of yoga. The process of yoga as one of its aim has > lifting > > > > > of the ojas from its storage in the primal chakra and its > storing in > > > > > the brain. The more ojas in the brain the prettier, smarter > and more > > > > > spiritual we are. But this lifting of the ojas can be done ONLY by > > > > > chaste ones. That is why chastity and bramacarya has always been > > > > > considered the highest virtue. No YOga can happen without > chastity. It > > > > > is clear why it is even more important for women to be chaste and > > > > > pious considering the strength of Moon and Venus in her > body-gross and > > > > > causal. > > > > > Without chastity, yogic pratice can lead into a mental disorder as > > > > > ojas and prana directly influence the work of the brain > centres. Thus > > > > > it is crucial how demanding and serious the homam or pooja in > > > > > question, or any other, is. Prohibition during the monthly > cycle is > > > > > based upon this also-increasing of the jala tatva and the > sexual urge. > > > > > At least, Somannath drekana should be checked for the period > of poojas > > > > > to see how the dasas support celibacy vow that is usually > required in > > > > > the cases of sadhanas whose aim is spiritual elevation. > > > > > The approaches to the final truth may be numerous and > different, but > > > > > all of them must find their path through the Sushumna. The one who > > > > > claims that this path is hidden or blocked to women simply > lacks ojas > > > > > in his/her brain. > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Tijana Damjanovic > > > > > > > > > > P.S. Ana, odakle si? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dinesh Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 My friend you are right....in today's world it can be a danger for a person practicing brahmacharya. in lack of knowledge and the consequences of his path...... yoga is the most important part of this path and if you are a serious practitioner then you will. Experiencewonderful feelings..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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