Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Om Datta GuruDear Goel Saheb,Nice of you to send the mail also to my personal id otherwise i would have missed it.Thanks for ur kind mail and yes the superiority of B L Thakur is unparelled, i presume he did not give the classical reference to it otherwise ur kind self would have quoted so far.Another query that arises which probably your senior self might be able to answer is what is the basis of derivation of these age of planets.Warmest regardsSunil JohnMumbai+91 9819957779Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937suniljohn_2002Cc: vedic astrology ; sohamsa <sohamsa >Wednesday, October 1, 2008 7:51:52 PMAge of planets Dear Sunil ji, Mr. B.L. Thakur in his book 'Jyotish Shikchha' indicate that planets give prosperity during following periods: Jupiter 16-22 Sun 22-24 Moon 24-25 Venus 25-28 Mars 28-32 Mercury 32-36 Saturn 36-42 Rahu 42-48 Ketu 48-54 He has not given any classical reference, but all the 8 volumes authored by him are based on classics only. As I remember , Sun also show its result in 49th and Jupiter in 54th year also Regards, G.K.GOEL Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Dear Sunil ji, This might be based on common sense and Kalpurush chart. That said, below is my thought process. If Ju is 16-22 so that is karak for 5th and 2nd house (12th and 9th lord) so family matters and learning Next phase of life is getting authority and work so Sun who is 5th lord in kalpurush chart which is karak for 10th (8th from 10th). After establishing oneself one will enter the marital stage or might develop feelings so Moon might be involved here as its 4th lord and 4th denotes heart and feelings there in. After that one might get married and marital pleasures will follow so Venus who is karak for 7th and 12th house i.e. natural karak for 2nd and 7th house After that one might focus on service and developing individuality and name so karak become Mars i.e. 1st and 8th lord therefore Karak for 6th and 1st. Next stage might be focus on earning and research, i.e. 3rd and 6th lord in kalpurush which is karak for 11th and 8th i.e. 8th from 8th and 8th from 6th house The next stage might be focused on parakram and gaining knowledge i.e. shani is natural 10th and 11th lord so karak for 3rd and 4th house. The age given might be the “General” age as per Desh, kaal Paatra principle. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Sunil John Thursday October 2, 2008 3:19 AM Gopal Goel Cc: vedic astrology ; sohamsa Age of planets/ Shri Goel Om Datta Guru Dear Goel Saheb, Nice of you to send the mail also to my personal id otherwise i would have missed it. Thanks for ur kind mail and yes the superiority of B L Thakur is unparelled, i presume he did not give the classical reference to it otherwise ur kind self would have quoted so far. Another query that arises which probably your senior self might be able to answer is what is the basis of derivation of these age of planets. Warmest regards Sunil John Mumbai +91 9819957779 Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 suniljohn_2002 Cc: vedic astrology ; sohamsa <sohamsa > Wednesday, October 1, 2008 7:51:52 PM Age of planets Dear Sunil ji, Mr. B.L. Thakur in his book 'Jyotish Shikchha' indicate that planets give prosperity during following periods: Jupiter 16-22 Sun 22-24 Moon 24-25 Venus 25-28 Mars 28-32 Mercury 32-36 Saturn 36-42 Rahu 42-48 Ketu 48-54 He has not given any classical reference, but all the 8 volumes authored by him are based on classics only. As I remember , Sun also show its result in 49th and Jupiter in 54th year also Regards, G.K.GOEL Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Ash, Namaskar. Your basis of allotting the ages is right, but its much more technical than that. Its based on the Naisargika Dasa. So yes, they are based on natural ages of men. Not so much Desha and Patra, but more Kaala. There is a great deal of math involved in deriving these ages from the Naisargika dasa, and since I was only taught a small bit of this, I must withdraw from trying to explain the reasons for all the ages for all the grahas, in all the naisargika dasas. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Ash's Corner skrev: Dear Sunil ji, This might be based on common sense and Kalpurush chart. That said, below is my thought process. If Ju is 16-22 so that is karak for 5th and 2nd house (12th and 9th lord) so family matters and learning Next phase of life is getting authority and work so Sun who is 5th lord in kalpurush chart which is karak for 10th (8th from 10th). After establishing oneself one will enter the marital stage or might develop feelings so Moon might be involved here as its 4th lord and 4th denotes heart and feelings there in. After that one might get married and marital pleasures will follow so Venus who is karak for 7th and 12th house i.e. natural karak for 2nd and 7th house After that one might focus on service and developing individuality and name so karak become Mars i.e. 1st and 8th lord therefore Karak for 6th and 1st. Next stage might be focus on earning and research, i.e. 3rd and 6th lord in kalpurush which is karak for 11th and 8th i.e. 8th from 8th and 8th from 6th house The next stage might be focused on parakram and gaining knowledge i.e. shani is natural 10th and 11th lord so karak for 3rd and 4th house. The age given might be the “General” age as per Desh, kaal Paatra principle. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Sunil John Thursday October 2, 2008 3:19 AM Gopal Goel Cc: vedic astrology ; sohamsa Age of planets/ Shri Goel Om Datta Guru Dear Goel Saheb, Nice of you to send the mail also to my personal id otherwise i would have missed it. Thanks for ur kind mail and yes the superiority of B L Thakur is unparelled, i presume he did not give the classical reference to it otherwise ur kind self would have quoted so far. Another query that arises which probably your senior self might be able to answer is what is the basis of derivation of these age of planets. Warmest regards Sunil John Mumbai +91 9819957779 Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 (AT) (DOT) co.in> suniljohn_2002 Cc: vedic astrology ; sohamsa <sohamsa > Wednesday, October 1, 2008 7:51:52 PM Age of planets Dear Sunil ji, Mr. B.L. Thakur in his book 'Jyotish Shikchha' indicate that planets give prosperity during following periods: Jupiter 16-22 Sun 22-24 Moon 24-25 Venus 25-28 Mars 28-32 Mercury 32-36 Saturn 36-42 Rahu 42-48 Ketu 48-54 He has not given any classical reference, but all the 8 volumes authored by him are based on classics only. As I remember , Sun also show its result in 49th and Jupiter in 54th year also Regards, G.K.GOEL Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Dear Visti ji, Good to hear from you. The reason why I mentioned Desh was because marital age is not the same and may vary from country to country and hence the age to enjoy those pleasures and hence the time. Today in North America the average age to marry might be different from say that of India or Nepal. Paatra is also important as it will then depend on the native, for example if the person abstains from marriage or takes the path of bhramacharya then things will be different. Most importantly, these are all general things, for getting perfect timing of event, we would require the exact chart of the Paatra. Mostly all general things I have noticed the logic is helmed from the kalpurush chart. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Visti Larsen Thursday October 2, 2008 6:06 AM sohamsa Re: Age of planets/ Shri Goel हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Ash, Namaskar. Your basis of allotting the ages is right, but its much more technical than that. Its based on the Naisargika Dasa. So yes, they are based on natural ages of men. Not so much Desha and Patra, but more Kaala. There is a great deal of math involved in deriving these ages from the Naisargika dasa, and since I was only taught a small bit of this, I must withdraw from trying to explain the reasons for all the ages for all the grahas, in all the naisargika dasas. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Ash's Corner skrev: Dear Sunil ji, This might be based on common sense and Kalpurush chart. That said, below is my thought process. If Ju is 16-22 so that is karak for 5th and 2nd house (12th and 9th lord) so family matters and learning Next phase of life is getting authority and work so Sun who is 5th lord in kalpurush chart which is karak for 10th (8th from 10th). After establishing oneself one will enter the marital stage or might develop feelings so Moon might be involved here as its 4th lord and 4th denotes heart and feelings there in. After that one might get married and marital pleasures will follow so Venus who is karak for 7th and 12th house i.e. natural karak for 2nd and 7th house After that one might focus on service and developing individuality and name so karak become Mars i.e. 1st and 8th lord therefore Karak for 6th and 1st. Next stage might be focus on earning and research, i.e. 3rd and 6th lord in kalpurush which is karak for 11th and 8th i.e. 8th from 8th and 8th from 6th house The next stage might be focused on parakram and gaining knowledge i.e. shani is natural 10th and 11th lord so karak for 3rd and 4th house. The age given might be the “General†age as per Desh, kaal Paatra principle. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Sunil John Thursday October 2, 2008 3:19 AM Gopal Goel Cc: vedic astrology ; sohamsa Age of planets/ Shri Goel Om Datta Guru Dear Goel Saheb, Nice of you to send the mail also to my personal id otherwise i would have missed it. Thanks for ur kind mail and yes the superiority of B L Thakur is unparelled, i presume he did not give the classical reference to it otherwise ur kind self would have quoted so far. Another query that arises which probably your senior self might be able to answer is what is the basis of derivation of these age of planets. Warmest regards Sunil John Mumbai +91 9819957779 ----- Original Message ---- Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 suniljohn_2002 Cc: vedic astrology ; sohamsa <sohamsa > Wednesday, October 1, 2008 7:51:52 PM Age of planets Dear Sunil ji, Mr. B.L. Thakur in his book 'Jyotish Shikchha' indicate that planets give prosperity during following periods: Jupiter 16-22 Sun 22-24 Moon 24-25 Venus 25-28 Mars 28-32 Mercury 32-36 Saturn 36-42 Rahu 42-48 Ketu 48-54 He has not given any classical reference, but all the 8 volumes authored by him are based on classics only. As I remember , Sun also show its result in 49th and Jupiter in 54th year also Regards, G.K.GOEL Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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