RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

October 11, 2008

Adarniya Pt Sanjay Rath Guruji Namaste,

Could you please shed light on whether the Anger of Shiva is there irrespective of Paksha or it is there only for krishna paksha chaturdasi birth.

Regards

Vinayak P Tandle

--- On Sat, 10/11/08, Sanjay Rath <sjrath wrote:

Sanjay Rath <sjrathRE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINAsohamsa Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 9:44 PM

Dear Rashmi

Use a diamond (saptarishi nadi) ..it will improve your finances considerably

Sanjay

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On Behalf Of rashmi patel10 October 2008 09:49sohamsa@ .comCc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.auFw: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

----- Forwarded Message ----rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >sohamsa@ .comCc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.auWednesday, October 8, 2008 11:44:36 PMRe: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

Respected Karuji,

Actually I am so sorry to tell you that I am born on sukal paksh charurdasi [chaudas] a day before purnima or full moon day so please excuse me I accidently put chaturthi its wrong sorry.

I was curious in other conversation going on for krishna paksha so I ask on my shukla paksha effects for chaudas born, but intresting thing is you had answered my question for chaturthi & the explanation of 6th house & ketu & mercury conjuction, well I have similar conjuction let me tell you my kundali so you will understand it exactly

my details DATE=12/may/ 57 TIME 04;25 AM PLACE=ADEN [yemen]

Mesh lagna & in Mesh=sun,mercury, ketu,Vrishabh= venus,Gemini= mars,leo= jupiter,Tula= moon,rahu, Scorpio=saturn

so see here I have mercury,ketu conjuction is this bad??so tell me what you think on my kundali any sugestions?

Thank you so much

rashmikant

Karu Heenkenda <heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au>sohamsa@ .comTuesday, October 7, 2008 10:05:49 PMRE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

Hare Rama Krshna

Dear Rashmi,

Buddhi (Budda) is illegitimate son of Supreme intelligence (Guru) and the day it cause was Krishna Chaturdasi (Fully Dark). Moon also cursed by Ganesha on chaturti and from that date, Moon fluctuates.

The fact is, We all are like Buda, as long as we are learning. That means we all have curse of Guru as well as Ganesha. That is why we are separated from supreme intelligence.

When we want to learn, we must have blessing of Upachaya lords as development of DHI comes from Upachaya, 3rd or 6th house. Now see from karaka Mercury. From Gemini 6th house ruled by Ketu, and form Virgo 3rd house ruled by Ketu. If Ketu conjoined Mercury, what development we can expect ? Ganesh simply destroying Mercury, that s all.

So, make it positive, we need to worship Ganesh in the first place as he alone has the key for door. Then, If we want to find the father, we must worship Guru in the form of Shiva, regardless the titi or day we born. He is so kind and one day will keep you on his head, where all streams of knowledge starts.

So don’t create barriers yourself. Worshiping Ganesh and Shiva is so important. Otherwise we will continue to be same and will be separated for ever.

Best Wishes

Karu

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On Behalf Of rashmi patelMonday, 22 September 2008 11:09 AMsohamsa@ .comRe: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

Dear Gurujano,

Please give me more guidence on this chathurdasi birth I am sukla paksh chathurthi birth ok

please let me know too ok

thanks

rashmi

vinayak tandle <vinayakmechie@ >sohamsa@ .comSunday, September 21, 2008 11:55:36 AMRE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

Adarniya Guruji Namaskar,

Its a great pleasure to get a reply from you. Guruji you have mentioned that the Krishna Chaturdasi birth has the anger of shiva. Whether for Sukla Chaturdasi too there is Anger of Shiva.My birth is in Sukla chaturdasi. Vistiji mentions that the Anger of lord shiva is there irrespective of PAksh, Please clarify. If you could please analyse my chart for the same whether I have cheated guru in my past birth & remedies.

DOB: 17 April 1981

TOB: 14:10 PM

POB: Belgaum, Karnatak India.

Life Event: Death of Father on 4 Feb 1996

Joined the JOB on: 30 Dec 2004

Eagerly waiting for your blessings

Regards--- On Sun, 9/21/08, Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com> wrote:

Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com>RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINAsohamsa@ .comSunday, September 21, 2008, 2:47 PM

om gurave namah

Dear Vinayaka Technically this tithi is ruled by Venus and Chandra loses his senses and goes to the house of Guru Brihaspati as a false shishya on Krishna Chaturdasi and later abducts Tärä on Amavasya. This tithi symbolizes all the cheating and falsity one does towards a guru – siksha or diksha guru and this is normally indicated as the darker side of the Asura guru Shukra (Venus). Lord Shiva is the protector of all the gurus and is the Paramesthi guru Himself ...see Shiva Puraana for details of panchashari dikshaa for more details. Guru, praatpara guru, parama guru and parameshthi guru are the four levels. Chandra gets cursed by Lord Shiva due to this terrible sin of cheating the Guru of all the devas and consequently this tithi carries the sin showing that one born on Krishna Chaturdashi has the sin of cheating a guru in a past incarnation. So in this life they will naturally have to be very careful and not repeat the same mistake. They should atone for the sin and the best remedy is the Shri Somanatha Puja as taught by Shri Krishna. Somanatha is the laaTa of Lord Shiva and the highest jyotirlingam Full Shiva Lingam pradakshina is prohibited as one crosses the shakti line (normally facing east or north) inside the temple, so this an be done outside the temple. Recitation of 1 crore panchakshari mantra is a very good remedy. I believe in japa in Kali yuga With best wishes, Sanjay Rath 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, Delhi, India 110060 www.srath.com, www.. org, www.sohamsa. com

vinayak tandle [vinayakmech ie ] Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:56 AMsohamsa@ .com; vedic astrology; ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

Dear Gurujans

Please elaborate why there is anger of shiva on Chaturdasi birth. Shivlinga Pradikshina to be done half or full & the reason if pradikshina has to be done half.

Regards

Vinayak P Tandle

October 11, 2008

Dear Vinayak

The anger of Shiva was due to the Moon God cheating a Guru. Lord

Shiva is sworn to protect all Gurus of every parampara/tradition as He is the embodiment

of all knowledge. Chandra came to Brihaspati on KRISHNA CHATURDASI and then ran

away with Guru’s wife Tara. So Lord Shiva lays curse ON THIS TITHI only.

The on AMAVASYA Tara was raped by Chandra ...So KALI MATA lays

curse on this tithi and says that women born in this tithi suffer rape and loss

of purity and burn inside just as Tara did.

ON PRATIPADA Chandra realised his mistake and returned Tara to

Brihaspati, so this is the Tithi for forgiveness and Agni/Gayatri mantra has

the power to remove all curses and bring forgiveness. Use Tulsi mala for

Gayatri mantra to get good results while red coral mala is the best as Tulsi

has Agni in it. Agni is Brahmana Guru

That should clarify

No curse on Tithi in sukla paksha

Best Regards

Sanjay Rath

sohamsa

[sohamsa ] On Behalf Of vinayak tandle

11 October 2008 21:54

sohamsa

RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA CHATURDASI

BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

Adarniya Pt Sanjay Rath Guruji Namaste,

Could you please shed light on whether the Anger of Shiva

is there irrespective of Paksha or it is there only for krishna paksha

chaturdasi birth.

Regards

Vinayak P Tandle

--- On Sat, 10/11/08, Sanjay Rath <sjrath

wrote:

Sanjay Rath

<sjrath

RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

PRADIKSHINA

sohamsa

Saturday, October 11, 2008, 9:44 PM

Dear Rashmi

Use a diamond (saptarishi nadi) ..it

will improve your finances considerably

Sanjay

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@

. com] On Behalf Of rashmi patel

10 October 2008 09:49

sohamsa@ .com

Cc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au

Fw: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

PRADIKSHINA

-----

Forwarded Message ----

rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >

sohamsa@ .com

Cc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au

Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:44:36 PM

Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

PRADIKSHINA

Respected Karuji,

Actually I am so sorry to tell you that I am born on sukal

paksh charurdasi [chaudas] a day before purnima or full moon day so please

excuse me I accidently put chaturthi its wrong sorry.

I was curious in other conversation going on for krishna

paksha so I ask on my shukla paksha effects for chaudas born, but intresting

thing is you had answered my question for chaturthi & the explanation of

6th house & ketu & mercury conjuction, well I have similar conjuction

let me tell you my kundali so you will understand it exactly

my details DATE=12/may/ 57 TIME 04;25 AM PLACE=ADEN

[yemen]

Mesh lagna & in Mesh=sun,mercury, ketu,Vrishabh=

venus,Gemini= mars,leo= jupiter,Tula= moon,rahu, Scorpio=saturn

so see here I have mercury,ketu conjuction is this bad??so

tell me what you think on my kundali any sugestions?

Thank you so much

rashmikant

-----

Original Message ----

Karu Heenkenda <heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au>

sohamsa@ .com

Tuesday, October 7, 2008 10:05:49 PM

RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

PRADIKSHINA

Hare Rama Krshna

Dear Rashmi,

Buddhi (Budda) is illegitimate son of

Supreme intelligence (Guru) and the day it cause was Krishna Chaturdasi

(Fully Dark). Moon also cursed by Ganesha on chaturti and from that

date, Moon fluctuates.

The fact is, We all are like Buda, as

long as we are learning. That means we all have curse of Guru as well as

Ganesha. That is why we are separated from supreme intelligence.

When we want to learn, we must have

blessing of Upachaya lords as development of DHI comes from Upachaya, 3rd

or 6th house. Now see from karaka Mercury. From Gemini 6th

house ruled by Ketu, and form Virgo 3rd house ruled by Ketu. If

Ketu conjoined Mercury, what development we can expect ? Ganesh simply

destroying Mercury, that s all.

So, make it positive, we need to

worship Ganesh in the first place as he alone has the key for door. Then, If

we want to find the father, we must worship Guru in the form of Shiva,

regardless the titi or day we born. He is so kind and one day will keep you

on his head, where all streams of knowledge starts.

So don’t create barriers

yourself. Worshiping Ganesh and Shiva is so important. Otherwise we will

continue to be same and will be separated for ever.

Best Wishes

Karu

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@

. com] On Behalf Of rashmi patel

Monday, 22 September 2008 11:09 AM

sohamsa@ .com

Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

PRADIKSHINA

Dear

Gurujano,

Please

give me more guidence on this chathurdasi birth I am sukla paksh chathurthi

birth ok

please

let me know too ok

thanks

rashmi

-----

Original Message ----

vinayak tandle <vinayakmechie@ >

sohamsa@ .com

Sunday, September 21, 2008 11:55:36 AM

RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

PRADIKSHINA

Adarniya Guruji Namaskar,

Its a great pleasure to get a reply from you. Guruji you have

mentioned that the Krishna Chaturdasi birth has the anger

of shiva. Whether for Sukla Chaturdasi too there is Anger

of Shiva.My birth is in Sukla chaturdasi. Vistiji mentions that the Anger

of lord shiva is there irrespective of PAksh, Please clarify. If you could

please analyse my chart for the same whether I have cheated guru in my past

birth & remedies.

DOB: 17 April 1981

TOB: 14:10 PM

POB: Belgaum, Karnatak India.

Life Event: Death of Father on 4 Feb 1996

Joined the JOB on: 30 Dec 2004

Eagerly waiting for your blessings

Regards

--- On Sun, 9/21/08, Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com>

wrote:

Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com>

RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

PRADIKSHINA

sohamsa@ .com

Sunday, September 21, 2008, 2:47 PM

om gurave namah

Dear Vinayaka

Technically this tithi is ruled by Venus

and Chandra loses his senses and goes to the house of Guru Brihaspati as a

false shishya on Krishna Chaturdasi and later abducts Tärä on Amavasya.

This tithi symbolizes all the cheating and falsity one does towards a guru

– siksha or diksha guru and this is normally indicated as the darker

side of the Asura guru Shukra (Venus).

Lord Shiva is the protector of all the

gurus and is the Paramesthi guru Himself ...see Shiva Puraana for details

of panchashari dikshaa for more details.

Guru, praatpara guru, parama guru and

parameshthi guru are the four levels.

Chandra gets cursed by Lord Shiva due to

this terrible sin of cheating the Guru of all the devas and consequently

this tithi carries the sin showing that one born on Krishna Chaturdashi has

the sin of cheating a guru in a past incarnation. So in this life they will

naturally have to be very careful and not repeat the same mistake. They

should atone for the sin and the best remedy is the Shri Somanatha Puja as

taught by Shri Krishna.

Somanatha is the laaTa of Lord Shiva and

the highest jyotirlingam

Full Shiva Lingam pradakshina is

prohibited as one crosses the shakti line (normally facing east or north)

inside the temple, so this an be done outside the temple.

Recitation of 1 crore panchakshari mantra

is a very good remedy. I believe in japa in Kali yuga

With best wishes,

Sanjay Rath

15B Gangaram Hospital

Road, Delhi, India 110060

www.srath.com, www.. org, www.sohamsa. com

vinayak tandle [vinayakmech

ie ]

Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:56 AM

sohamsa@ .com; vedic astrology;

ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

PRADIKSHINA

Dear Gurujans

Please elaborate why there is anger of shiva on Chaturdasi birth.

Shivlinga Pradikshina to be done half or full & the reason if

pradikshina has to be done half.

Regards

Vinayak P Tandle

October 11, 2008

Adarniya Pt Sanjay Rath Guruji Namaste,

Thank you very much for clarifying. In the planetary system moon is regarded the queen, but here moon is male, could you please clarify why there is contradiction for moon being female/male.

Regards

Vinayak P Tandle --- On Sat, 10/11/08, Sanjay Rath <sjrath wrote:

Sanjay Rath <sjrathRE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINAsohamsa Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 10:19 PM

Dear Vinayak

The anger of Shiva was due to the Moon God cheating a Guru. Lord Shiva is sworn to protect all Gurus of every parampara/tradition as He is the embodiment of all knowledge. Chandra came to Brihaspati on KRISHNA CHATURDASI and then ran away with Guru’s wife Tara. So Lord Shiva lays curse ON THIS TITHI only.

The on AMAVASYA Tara was raped by Chandra ...So KALI MATA lays curse on this tithi and says that women born in this tithi suffer rape and loss of purity and burn inside just as Tara did.

ON PRATIPADA Chandra realised his mistake and returned Tara to Brihaspati, so this is the Tithi for forgiveness and Agni/Gayatri mantra has the power to remove all curses and bring forgiveness. Use Tulsi mala for Gayatri mantra to get good results while red coral mala is the best as Tulsi has Agni in it. Agni is Brahmana Guru

That should clarify

No curse on Tithi in sukla paksha

Best Regards

Sanjay Rath

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On Behalf Of vinayak tandle11 October 2008 21:54sohamsa@ .comRE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

Adarniya Pt Sanjay Rath Guruji Namaste,

Could you please shed light on whether the Anger of Shiva is there irrespective of Paksha or it is there only for krishna paksha chaturdasi birth.

Regards

Vinayak P Tandle

--- On Sat, 10/11/08, Sanjay Rath <sjrath (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Sanjay Rath <sjrath (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINAsohamsa@ .comSaturday, October 11, 2008, 9:44 PM

Dear Rashmi

Use a diamond (saptarishi nadi) ..it will improve your finances considerably

Sanjay

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On Behalf Of rashmi patel10 October 2008 09:49sohamsa@ .comCc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.auFw: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

----- Forwarded Message ----rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >sohamsa@ .comCc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.auWednesday, October 8, 2008 11:44:36 PMRe: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

Respected Karuji,

Actually I am so sorry to tell you that I am born on sukal paksh charurdasi [chaudas] a day before purnima or full moon day so please excuse me I accidently put chaturthi its wrong sorry.

I was curious in other conversation going on for krishna paksha so I ask on my shukla paksha effects for chaudas born, but intresting thing is you had answered my question for chaturthi & the explanation of 6th house & ketu & mercury conjuction, well I have similar conjuction let me tell you my kundali so you will understand it exactly

my details DATE=12/may/ 57 TIME 04;25 AM PLACE=ADEN [yemen]

Mesh lagna & in Mesh=sun,mercury, ketu,Vrishabh= venus,Gemini= mars,leo= jupiter,Tula= moon,rahu, Scorpio=saturn

so see here I have mercury,ketu conjuction is this bad??so tell me what you think on my kundali any sugestions?

Thank you so much

rashmikant

Karu Heenkenda <heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au>sohamsa@ .comTuesday, October 7, 2008 10:05:49 PMRE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

Hare Rama Krshna

Dear Rashmi,

Buddhi (Budda) is illegitimate son of Supreme intelligence (Guru) and the day it cause was Krishna Chaturdasi (Fully Dark). Moon also cursed by Ganesha on chaturti and from that date, Moon fluctuates.

The fact is, We all are like Buda, as long as we are learning. That means we all have curse of Guru as well as Ganesha. That is why we are separated from supreme intelligence.

When we want to learn, we must have blessing of Upachaya lords as development of DHI comes from Upachaya, 3rd or 6th house. Now see from karaka Mercury. From Gemini 6th house ruled by Ketu, and form Virgo 3rd house ruled by Ketu. If Ketu conjoined Mercury, what development we can expect ? Ganesh simply destroying Mercury, that s all. So, make it positive, we need to worship Ganesh in the first place as he alone has the key for door. Then, If we want to find the father, we must worship Guru in the form of Shiva, regardless the titi or day we born. He is so kind and one day will keep you on his head, where all streams of knowledge starts. So don’t create barriers yourself. Worshiping Ganesh and Shiva is so important. Otherwise we will continue to be same and will be separated for ever. Best Wishes Karu

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On Behalf Of rashmi patelMonday, 22 September 2008 11:09 AMsohamsa@ .comRe: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

Dear Gurujano,

Please give me more guidence on this chathurdasi birth I am sukla paksh chathurthi birth ok

please let me know too ok

thanks

rashmi

vinayak tandle <vinayakmechie@ >sohamsa@ .comSunday, September 21, 2008 11:55:36 AMRE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

Adarniya Guruji Namaskar,

Its a great pleasure to get a reply from you. Guruji you have mentioned that the Krishna Chaturdasi birth has the anger of shiva. Whether for Sukla Chaturdasi too there is Anger of Shiva.My birth is in Sukla chaturdasi. Vistiji mentions that the Anger of lord shiva is there irrespective of PAksh, Please clarify. If you could please analyse my chart for the same whether I have cheated guru in my past birth & remedies.

DOB: 17 April 1981

TOB: 14:10 PM

POB: Belgaum, Karnatak India.

Life Event: Death of Father on 4 Feb 1996

Joined the JOB on: 30 Dec 2004

Eagerly waiting for your blessings

Regards--- On Sun, 9/21/08, Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com> wrote:

Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com>RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINAsohamsa@ .comSunday, September 21, 2008, 2:47 PM

om gurave namah

Dear Vinayaka Technically this tithi is ruled by Venus and Chandra loses his senses and goes to the house of Guru Brihaspati as a false shishya on Krishna Chaturdasi and later abducts Tärä on Amavasya. This tithi symbolizes all the cheating and falsity one does towards a guru – siksha or diksha guru and this is normally indicated as the darker side of the Asura guru Shukra (Venus). Lord Shiva is the protector of all the gurus and is the Paramesthi guru Himself ...see Shiva Puraana for details of panchashari dikshaa for more details. Guru, praatpara guru, parama guru and parameshthi guru are the four levels. Chandra gets cursed by Lord Shiva due to this terrible sin of cheating the Guru of all the devas and consequently this tithi carries the sin showing that one born on Krishna Chaturdashi has the sin of cheating a guru in a past incarnation. So in this life they will naturally have to be very careful and not repeat the same mistake. They should atone for the sin and the best remedy is the Shri Somanatha Puja as taught by Shri Krishna. Somanatha is the laaTa of Lord Shiva and the highest jyotirlingam Full Shiva Lingam pradakshina is prohibited as one crosses the shakti line (normally facing east or north) inside the temple, so this an be done outside the temple. Recitation of 1 crore panchakshari mantra is a very good remedy. I believe in japa in Kali yuga With best wishes, Sanjay Rath 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, Delhi, India 110060 www.srath.com, www.. org, www.sohamsa. com

vinayak tandle [vinayakmech ie ] Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:56 AMsohamsa@ .com; vedic astrology; ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

Dear Gurujans

Please elaborate why there is anger of shiva on Chaturdasi birth. Shivlinga Pradikshina to be done half or full & the reason if pradikshina has to be done half.

Regards

Vinayak P Tandle

October 11, 2008

Dear Vinayak

There is no contradiction for Moon being both male and female

.... both male (Sri Rama) and female are born in Karkata lagna lorded by the

Moon. So the graha does not show male and female as *male sex and female sex*

It is an important lesson to learn about Moon and its natural

ability to *impregnate all women* in every species. That is its power as

*SOMA*.

Imagine if such a chaturdashi tithi birth also has Moon in 7th

house in navamsha!! Then very serious remedy is required

Best wishes

Sanjay

sohamsa

[sohamsa ] On Behalf Of vinayak tandle

11 October 2008 22:43

sohamsa

RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA CHATURDASI

BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

Adarniya

Pt Sanjay Rath Guruji Namaste,

Thank you very much for clarifying. In the planetary

system moon is regarded the queen, but here moon is male, could you

please clarify why there is contradiction for moon being female/male.

Regards

Vinayak P Tandle

--- On Sat, 10/11/08, Sanjay Rath <sjrath

wrote:

Sanjay Rath

<sjrath

RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA CHATURDASI BIRTH

& LINGA PRADIKSHINA

sohamsa

Saturday, October 11, 2008, 10:19 PM

Dear Vinayak

The anger of Shiva was due to the Moon

God cheating a Guru. Lord Shiva is sworn to protect all Gurus of every

parampara/tradition as He is the embodiment of all knowledge. Chandra came to

Brihaspati on KRISHNA CHATURDASI and then ran away with Guru’s wife Tara. So

Lord Shiva lays curse ON THIS TITHI only.

The on AMAVASYA Tara was raped by

Chandra ...So KALI MATA lays curse on this tithi and says that women born in

this tithi suffer rape and loss of purity and burn inside just as Tara did.

ON PRATIPADA Chandra realised his

mistake and returned Tara to Brihaspati, so this is the Tithi for forgiveness

and Agni/Gayatri mantra has the power to remove all curses and bring

forgiveness. Use Tulsi mala for Gayatri mantra to get good results while red

coral mala is the best as Tulsi has Agni in it. Agni is Brahmana Guru

That should clarify

No curse on Tithi in sukla paksha

Best Regards

Sanjay Rath

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@

. com] On Behalf Of vinayak tandle

11 October 2008 21:54

sohamsa@ .com

RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA CHATURDASI

BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

Adarniya Pt Sanjay Rath Guruji Namaste,

Could you please shed light on whether the Anger of Shiva is there

irrespective of Paksha or it is there only for krishna paksha chaturdasi

birth.

Regards

Vinayak P Tandle

--- On Sat, 10/11/08, Sanjay Rath <sjrath (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>

wrote:

Sanjay Rath <sjrath (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>

RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

PRADIKSHINA

sohamsa@ .com

Saturday, October 11, 2008, 9:44 PM

Dear Rashmi

Use a diamond

(saptarishi nadi) ..it will improve your finances considerably

Sanjay

sohamsa@ .com

[sohamsa] On Behalf Of rashmi patel

10 October 2008 09:49

sohamsa@ .com

Cc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au

Fw: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH &

LINGA PRADIKSHINA

----- Forwarded Message ----

rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >

sohamsa@ .com

Cc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au

Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:44:36 PM

Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

PRADIKSHINA

Respected Karuji,

Actually I am so sorry to tell you that I am born on sukal paksh

charurdasi [chaudas] a day before purnima or full moon day so please excuse

me I accidently put chaturthi its wrong sorry.

I was curious in other conversation going on for krishna paksha so I

ask on my shukla paksha effects for chaudas born, but intresting thing is

you had answered my question for chaturthi & the explanation of 6th

house & ketu & mercury conjuction, well I have similar conjuction

let me tell you my kundali so you will understand it exactly

my details DATE=12/may/ 57 TIME 04;25 AM PLACE=ADEN [yemen]

Mesh lagna & in Mesh=sun,mercury, ketu,Vrishabh= venus,Gemini=

mars,leo= jupiter,Tula= moon,rahu, Scorpio=saturn

so see here I have mercury,ketu conjuction is this bad??so tell me

what you think on my kundali any sugestions?

Thank you so much

rashmikant

Karu Heenkenda <heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au>

sohamsa@ .com

Tuesday, October 7, 2008 10:05:49 PM

RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

PRADIKSHINA

Hare Rama Krshna

Dear Rashmi,

Buddhi (Budda) is

illegitimate son of Supreme intelligence (Guru) and the day it cause was

Krishna Chaturdasi (Fully Dark). Moon also cursed by Ganesha on

chaturti and from that date, Moon fluctuates.

The fact is, We all are

like Buda, as long as we are learning. That means we all have curse of Guru

as well as Ganesha. That is why we are separated from supreme intelligence.

When we want to learn,

we must have blessing of Upachaya lords as development of DHI comes from

Upachaya, 3rd or 6th house. Now see from karaka

Mercury. From Gemini 6th house ruled by Ketu, and form Virgo 3rd

house ruled by Ketu. If Ketu conjoined Mercury, what development we can

expect ? Ganesh simply destroying Mercury, that s all.

So, make it positive, we

need to worship Ganesh in the first place as he alone has the key for door.

Then, If we want to find the father, we must worship Guru in the form of

Shiva, regardless the titi or day we born. He is so kind and one day will

keep you on his head, where all streams of knowledge starts.

So don’t create barriers

yourself. Worshiping Ganesh and Shiva is so important. Otherwise we will

continue to be same and will be separated for ever.

Best Wishes

Karu

sohamsa@ .com

[sohamsa] On Behalf Of rashmi patel

Monday, 22 September 2008 11:09 AM

sohamsa@ .com

Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH &

LINGA PRADIKSHINA

Dear Gurujano,

Please give me more guidence on this chathurdasi birth I am sukla

paksh chathurthi birth ok

please let me know too ok

thanks

rashmi

vinayak tandle <vinayakmechie@ >

sohamsa@ .com

Sunday, September 21, 2008 11:55:36 AM

RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

PRADIKSHINA

Adarniya Guruji Namaskar,

Its a great pleasure to get a reply from you. Guruji you have

mentioned that the Krishna Chaturdasi birth has the

anger of shiva. Whether for Sukla Chaturdasi too there

is Anger of Shiva.My birth is in Sukla chaturdasi. Vistiji mentions that

the Anger of lord shiva is there irrespective of PAksh, Please clarify.

If you could please analyse my chart for the same whether I have cheated

guru in my past birth & remedies.

DOB: 17 April 1981

TOB: 14:10 PM

POB: Belgaum, Karnatak India.

Life Event: Death of Father on 4 Feb 1996

Joined the JOB on: 30 Dec 2004

Eagerly waiting for your blessings

Regards

--- On Sun, 9/21/08, Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com>

wrote:

Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com>

RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

PRADIKSHINA

sohamsa@ .com

Sunday, September 21, 2008, 2:47 PM

om gurave namah

Dear Vinayaka

Technically this tithi is ruled by

Venus and Chandra loses his senses and goes to the house of Guru

Brihaspati as a false shishya on Krishna Chaturdasi and later abducts

Tärä on Amavasya. This tithi symbolizes all the cheating and falsity one

does towards a guru – siksha or diksha guru and this is normally

indicated as the darker side of the Asura guru Shukra (Venus).

Lord Shiva is the protector of all the

gurus and is the Paramesthi guru Himself ...see Shiva Puraana for details

of panchashari dikshaa for more details.

Guru, praatpara guru, parama guru and

parameshthi guru are the four levels.

Chandra gets cursed by Lord Shiva due

to this terrible sin of cheating the Guru of all the devas and

consequently this tithi carries the sin showing that one born on Krishna

Chaturdashi has the sin of cheating a guru in a past incarnation. So in

this life they will naturally have to be very careful and not repeat the

same mistake. They should atone for the sin and the best remedy is the

Shri Somanatha Puja as taught by Shri Krishna.

Somanatha is the laaTa of Lord Shiva

and the highest jyotirlingam

Full Shiva Lingam pradakshina is

prohibited as one crosses the shakti line (normally facing east or north)

inside the temple, so this an be done outside the temple.

Recitation of 1 crore panchakshari

mantra is a very good remedy. I believe in japa in Kali yuga

With best wishes,

Sanjay Rath

15B Gangaram

Hospital Road, Delhi, India 110060

www.srath.com, www.. org, www.sohamsa. com

vinayak tandle [vinayakmech

ie ]

Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:56 AM

sohamsa@ .com; vedic astrology;

ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

PRADIKSHINA

Dear Gurujans

Please elaborate why there is anger of shiva on Chaturdasi birth.

Shivlinga Pradikshina to be done half or full & the reason if

pradikshina has to be done half.

Regards

Vinayak P Tandle

October 12, 2008

Dear Sanjay

thanks for showing your interest in group mails.. what are the remedy

for chander in 7th for k14 born native... what if a native is having

chander in Amsha lagna which is lord of 7th house in rashi and second

house from navmansh lagna also is karkta..

regard

sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath wrote:

>

> Dear Vinayak

>

> There is no contradiction for Moon being both male and female ...

both male

> (Sri Rama) and female are born in Karkata lagna lorded by the Moon.

So the

> graha does not show male and female as *male sex and female sex*

>

> It is an important lesson to learn about Moon and its natural ability to

> *impregnate all women* in every species. That is its power as *SOMA*.

>

> Imagine if such a chaturdashi tithi birth also has Moon in 7th house in

> navamsha!! Then very serious remedy is required

>

> Best wishes

>

> Sanjay

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa ] On

Behalf Of

> vinayak tandle

> 11 October 2008 22:43

> sohamsa

> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA CHATURDASI

BIRTH &

> LINGA PRADIKSHINA

>

> Adarniya Pt Sanjay Rath Guruji Namaste,

>

> Thank you very much for clarifying. In the planetary system moon is

regarded

> the queen, but here moon is male, could you please clarify why there is

> contradiction for moon being female/male.

>

> Regards

>

> Vinayak P Tandle

>

> --- On Sat, 10/11/08, Sanjay Rath <sjrath wrote:

>

> Sanjay Rath <sjrath

> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA CHATURDASI

BIRTH &

> LINGA PRADIKSHINA

> sohamsa

> Saturday, October 11, 2008, 10:19 PM

>

> Dear Vinayak

>

> The anger of Shiva was due to the Moon God cheating a Guru. Lord

Shiva is

> sworn to protect all Gurus of every parampara/tradition as He is the

> embodiment of all knowledge. Chandra came to Brihaspati on KRISHNA

> CHATURDASI and then ran away with Guru's wife Tara. So Lord Shiva

lays curse

> ON THIS TITHI only.

>

> The on AMAVASYA Tara was raped by Chandra ...So KALI MATA lays curse

on this

> tithi and says that women born in this tithi suffer rape and loss of

purity

> and burn inside just as Tara did.

>

> ON PRATIPADA Chandra realised his mistake and returned Tara to

Brihaspati,

> so this is the Tithi for forgiveness and Agni/Gayatri mantra has the

power

> to remove all curses and bring forgiveness. Use Tulsi mala for Gayatri

> mantra to get good results while red coral mala is the best as Tulsi has

> Agni in it. Agni is Brahmana Guru

>

> That should clarify

>

> No curse on Tithi in sukla paksha

>

> Best Regards

>

> Sanjay Rath

>

> sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On

Behalf

> Of vinayak tandle

> 11 October 2008 21:54

> sohamsa@ .com

> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA CHATURDASI

BIRTH &

> LINGA PRADIKSHINA

>

> Adarniya Pt Sanjay Rath Guruji Namaste,

>

> Could you please shed light on whether the Anger of Shiva is there

> irrespective of Paksha or it is there only for krishna paksha chaturdasi

> birth.

>

> Regards

>

> Vinayak P Tandle

>

> --- On Sat, 10/11/08, Sanjay Rath <sjrath (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> Sanjay Rath <sjrath (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>

> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

> sohamsa@ .com

> Saturday, October 11, 2008, 9:44 PM

>

> Dear Rashmi

>

> Use a diamond (saptarishi nadi) ..it will improve your finances

considerably

>

> Sanjay

>

> sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On

Behalf

> Of rashmi patel

> 10 October 2008 09:49

> sohamsa@ .com

> Cc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au

> Fw: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

>

----- Forwarded Message ----

> rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >

> sohamsa@ .com

> Cc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au

> Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:44:36 PM

> Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

>

> Respected Karuji,

>

> Actually I am so sorry to tell you that I am born on sukal paksh

charurdasi

> [chaudas] a day before purnima or full moon day so please excuse me I

> accidently put chaturthi its wrong sorry.

>

> I was curious in other conversation going on for krishna paksha so I

ask on

> my shukla paksha effects for chaudas born, but intresting thing is

you had

> answered my question for chaturthi & the explanation of 6th house &

ketu &

> mercury conjuction, well I have similar conjuction let me tell you my

> kundali so you will understand it exactly

>

> my details DATE=12/may/ 57 TIME 04;25 AM PLACE=ADEN [yemen]

>

> Mesh lagna & in Mesh=sun,mercury, ketu,Vrishabh= venus,Gemini= mars,leo=

> jupiter,Tula= moon,rahu, Scorpio=saturn

>

> so see here I have mercury,ketu conjuction is this bad??so tell me

what you

> think on my kundali any sugestions?

>

> Thank you so much

>

> rashmikant

>

> Karu Heenkenda <heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au>

> sohamsa@ .com

> Tuesday, October 7, 2008 10:05:49 PM

> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

>

> Hare Rama Krshna

>

> Dear Rashmi,

>

> Buddhi (Budda) is illegitimate son of Supreme intelligence (Guru)

and the

> day it cause was Krishna Chaturdasi (Fully Dark). Moon also cursed by

> Ganesha on chaturti and from that date, Moon fluctuates.

>

> The fact is, We all are like Buda, as long as we are learning. That

means we

> all have curse of Guru as well as Ganesha. That is why we are

separated from

> supreme intelligence.

>

> When we want to learn, we must have blessing of Upachaya lords as

> development of DHI comes from Upachaya, 3rd or 6th house. Now see from

> karaka Mercury. From Gemini 6th house ruled by Ketu, and form Virgo 3rd

> house ruled by Ketu. If Ketu conjoined Mercury, what development we can

> expect ? Ganesh simply destroying Mercury, that s all.

>

> So, make it positive, we need to worship Ganesh in the first place as he

> alone has the key for door. Then, If we want to find the father, we must

> worship Guru in the form of Shiva, regardless the titi or day we

born. He is

> so kind and one day will keep you on his head, where all streams of

> knowledge starts.

>

> So don't create barriers yourself. Worshiping Ganesh and Shiva is so

> important. Otherwise we will continue to be same and will be

separated for

> ever.

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Karu

>

> sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On

Behalf

> Of rashmi patel

> Monday, 22 September 2008 11:09 AM

> sohamsa@ .com

> Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

>

> Dear Gurujano,

>

> Please give me more guidence on this chathurdasi birth I am sukla paksh

> chathurthi birth ok

>

> please let me know too ok

>

> thanks

>

> rashmi

>

> vinayak tandle <vinayakmechie@ <http:///> >

> sohamsa@ .com

> Sunday, September 21, 2008 11:55:36 AM

> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

>

> Adarniya Guruji Namaskar,

>

> Its a great pleasure to get a reply from you. Guruji you have

mentioned that

> the Krishna Chaturdasi birth has the anger of shiva. Whether for Sukla

> Chaturdasi too there is Anger of Shiva.My birth is in Sukla chaturdasi.

> Vistiji mentions that the Anger of lord shiva is there irrespective of

> PAksh, Please clarify. If you could please analyse my chart for the same

> whether I have cheated guru in my past birth & remedies.

>

> DOB: 17 April 1981

>

> TOB: 14:10 PM

>

> POB: Belgaum, Karnatak India.

>

> Life Event: Death of Father on 4 Feb 1996

>

> Joined the JOB on: 30 Dec 2004

>

> Eagerly waiting for your blessings

>

> Regards

>

> --- On Sun, 9/21/08, Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com>

> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

> sohamsa@ .com

> Sunday, September 21, 2008, 2:47 PM

>

> om gurave namah

>

> Dear Vinayaka

>

> Technically this tithi is ruled by Venus and Chandra loses his

senses and

> goes to the house of Guru Brihaspati as a false shishya on Krishna

> Chaturdasi and later abducts Tärä on Amavasya. This tithi symbolizes

all the

> cheating and falsity one does towards a guru – siksha or diksha guru and

> this is normally indicated as the darker side of the Asura guru Shukra

> (Venus).

>

> Lord Shiva is the protector of all the gurus and is the Paramesthi guru

> Himself ...see Shiva Puraana for details of panchashari dikshaa for more

> details.

>

> Guru, praatpara guru, parama guru and parameshthi guru are the four

levels.

>

> Chandra gets cursed by Lord Shiva due to this terrible sin of

cheating the

> Guru of all the devas and consequently this tithi carries the sin

showing

> that one born on Krishna Chaturdashi has the sin of cheating a guru in a

> past incarnation. So in this life they will naturally have to be very

> careful and not repeat the same mistake. They should atone for the

sin and

> the best remedy is the Shri Somanatha Puja as taught by Shri Krishna.

>

> Somanatha is the laaTa of Lord Shiva and the highest jyotirlingam

>

> Full Shiva Lingam pradakshina is prohibited as one crosses the

shakti line

> (normally facing east or north) inside the temple, so this an be done

> outside the temple.

>

> Recitation of 1 crore panchakshari mantra is a very good remedy. I

believe

> in japa in Kali yuga

>

> With best wishes,

>

> Sanjay Rath

>

> 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, Delhi, India 110060

>

> www.srath.com <http://www.srath.com/> , www.. org,

www.sohamsa.

> com

>

> vinayak tandle [vinayakmech ie ]

> Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:56 AM

> sohamsa@ .com; vedic astrology;

>

> ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

PRADIKSHINA

>

> Dear Gurujans

>

> Please elaborate why there is anger of shiva on Chaturdasi birth.

Shivlinga

> Pradikshina to be done half or full & the reason if pradikshina has

to be

> done half.

>

> Regards

>

> Vinayak P Tandle

>

October 12, 2008

-

Hare Rama Krishna,

Dear Sanjay

There is a curious parallel in ancient greek mythology with regards

to Krishna paksha chaturdashi and Amavasya.

On chaturdashi tithi (Krishna paksha) Goddess Persephone, the

beautiful and chaste/innocent daughter was abducted forcibly by

Hades (alias Pluto- NOT the planet) who is the Ruler of the

Underworld ( a sort of Lunar figure)and on Amavasya she was raped.

Unfortunately there was no way back for her (in the greek

tradition),though she was allowed to return once a year.(Ancient

Greeks celebrated the return of Persephone every year with great

festivals). While the abduction and rape went on, the Goddess

Hecate, whose image is a widow, an old crone, (a sort of Devi of

witchcraft,occult arts and incantations) looked on and witnessed the

whole thing.(She is a lunar Goddess)

The symbolism is clear enough.

For the last several thousand years in Europe (yes Europe),black

magicians, witches performed their curses during chaturdashi and

Amavasya.Some of them were quite accomplished in these " black arts " ,

if the annals of history is to be believed. Even today Italian

witches celebrate " Hecate's " moon on these days. The well known

curse on the Hapsburg House, the royal family of Austria/Hungary

was " done " on Amavasya, and if ever a curse " worked " surely this

was it. Among the effects: the Crown Prince (Rudolph)commited

suicide together with his girlfriend,the Empress was assassinated by

an Italian anarchist in Geneva,the Royal couple's daughter died of

fever,another cousin Maximilian was executed in Mexico, a sister of

the Emperor ended her life in the insane asylum and finally the new

Crown Prince of the Empire,(nephew of the Emperor),Franz Ferdinand

was asassinated together with his wife in Sarajevo, Bosnia.(1914)

(starting the first world war, incidentally).The Empire was

finished.The Republic of Austria was created and the Hapsburg

dynasty was exiled from their native land. The curse was fulfilled

to the hilt.

With deep respect to all

A.J.

-- In sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath wrote:

>

> Dear Vinayak

>

> The anger of Shiva was due to the Moon God cheating a Guru. Lord

Shiva is

> sworn to protect all Gurus of every parampara/tradition as He is

the

> embodiment of all knowledge. Chandra came to Brihaspati on KRISHNA

> CHATURDASI and then ran away with Guru's wife Tara. So Lord Shiva

lays curse

> ON THIS TITHI only.

>

> The on AMAVASYA Tara was raped by Chandra ...So KALI MATA lays

curse on this

> tithi and says that women born in this tithi suffer rape and loss

of purity

> and burn inside just as Tara did.

>

> ON PRATIPADA Chandra realised his mistake and returned Tara to

Brihaspati,

> so this is the Tithi for forgiveness and Agni/Gayatri mantra has

the power

> to remove all curses and bring forgiveness. Use Tulsi mala for

Gayatri

> mantra to get good results while red coral mala is the best as

Tulsi has

> Agni in it. Agni is Brahmana Guru

>

> That should clarify

>

> No curse on Tithi in sukla paksha

>

> Best Regards

>

> Sanjay Rath

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa ] On

Behalf Of

> vinayak tandle

> 11 October 2008 21:54

> sohamsa

> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA

CHATURDASI BIRTH &

> LINGA PRADIKSHINA

>

> Adarniya Pt Sanjay Rath Guruji Namaste,

>

> Could you please shed light on whether the Anger of Shiva is there

> irrespective of Paksha or it is there only for krishna paksha

chaturdasi

> birth.

>

> Regards

>

> Vinayak P Tandle

>

> --- On Sat, 10/11/08, Sanjay Rath <sjrath wrote:

>

> Sanjay Rath <sjrath

> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

> sohamsa

> Saturday, October 11, 2008, 9:44 PM

>

> Dear Rashmi

>

> Use a diamond (saptarishi nadi) ..it will improve your finances

considerably

>

> Sanjay

>

> sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]

On Behalf

> Of rashmi patel

> 10 October 2008 09:49

> sohamsa@ .com

> Cc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au

> Fw: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

>

----- Forwarded Message ----

> rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >

> sohamsa@ .com

> Cc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au

> Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:44:36 PM

> Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

>

> Respected Karuji,

>

> Actually I am so sorry to tell you that I am born on sukal paksh

charurdasi

> [chaudas] a day before purnima or full moon day so please excuse

me I

> accidently put chaturthi its wrong sorry.

>

> I was curious in other conversation going on for krishna paksha so

I ask on

> my shukla paksha effects for chaudas born, but intresting thing is

you had

> answered my question for chaturthi & the explanation of 6th house

& ketu &

> mercury conjuction, well I have similar conjuction let me tell you

my

> kundali so you will understand it exactly

>

> my details DATE=12/may/ 57 TIME 04;25 AM PLACE=ADEN [yemen]

>

> Mesh lagna & in Mesh=sun,mercury, ketu,Vrishabh= venus,Gemini=

mars,leo=

> jupiter,Tula= moon,rahu, Scorpio=saturn

>

> so see here I have mercury,ketu conjuction is this bad??so tell me

what you

> think on my kundali any sugestions?

>

> Thank you so much

>

> rashmikant

>

> Karu Heenkenda <heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au>

> sohamsa@ .com

> Tuesday, October 7, 2008 10:05:49 PM

> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

>

> Hare Rama Krshna

>

> Dear Rashmi,

>

> Buddhi (Budda) is illegitimate son of Supreme intelligence (Guru)

and the

> day it cause was Krishna Chaturdasi (Fully Dark). Moon also

cursed by

> Ganesha on chaturti and from that date, Moon fluctuates.

>

> The fact is, We all are like Buda, as long as we are learning.

That means we

> all have curse of Guru as well as Ganesha. That is why we are

separated from

> supreme intelligence.

>

> When we want to learn, we must have blessing of Upachaya lords as

> development of DHI comes from Upachaya, 3rd or 6th house. Now see

from

> karaka Mercury. From Gemini 6th house ruled by Ketu, and form

Virgo 3rd

> house ruled by Ketu. If Ketu conjoined Mercury, what development

we can

> expect ? Ganesh simply destroying Mercury, that s all.

>

> So, make it positive, we need to worship Ganesh in the first place

as he

> alone has the key for door. Then, If we want to find the father,

we must

> worship Guru in the form of Shiva, regardless the titi or day we

born. He is

> so kind and one day will keep you on his head, where all streams of

> knowledge starts.

>

> So don't create barriers yourself. Worshiping Ganesh and Shiva is

so

> important. Otherwise we will continue to be same and will be

separated for

> ever.

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Karu

>

> sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]

On Behalf

> Of rashmi patel

> Monday, 22 September 2008 11:09 AM

> sohamsa@ .com

> Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

>

> Dear Gurujano,

>

> Please give me more guidence on this chathurdasi birth I am sukla

paksh

> chathurthi birth ok

>

> please let me know too ok

>

> thanks

>

> rashmi

>

> vinayak tandle <vinayakmechie@ <http:///>

>

> sohamsa@ .com

> Sunday, September 21, 2008 11:55:36 AM

> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

>

> Adarniya Guruji Namaskar,

>

> Its a great pleasure to get a reply from you. Guruji you have

mentioned that

> the Krishna Chaturdasi birth has the anger of shiva. Whether for

Sukla

> Chaturdasi too there is Anger of Shiva.My birth is in Sukla

chaturdasi.

> Vistiji mentions that the Anger of lord shiva is there

irrespective of

> PAksh, Please clarify. If you could please analyse my chart for

the same

> whether I have cheated guru in my past birth & remedies.

>

> DOB: 17 April 1981

>

> TOB: 14:10 PM

>

> POB: Belgaum, Karnatak India.

>

> Life Event: Death of Father on 4 Feb 1996

>

> Joined the JOB on: 30 Dec 2004

>

> Eagerly waiting for your blessings

>

> Regards

>

> --- On Sun, 9/21/08, Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com>

wrote:

>

> Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com>

> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

> sohamsa@ .com

> Sunday, September 21, 2008, 2:47 PM

>

> om gurave namah

>

> Dear Vinayaka

>

> Technically this tithi is ruled by Venus and Chandra loses his

senses and

> goes to the house of Guru Brihaspati as a false shishya on Krishna

> Chaturdasi and later abducts Tärä on Amavasya. This tithi

symbolizes all the

> cheating and falsity one does towards a guru – siksha or diksha

guru and

> this is normally indicated as the darker side of the Asura guru

Shukra

> (Venus).

>

> Lord Shiva is the protector of all the gurus and is the Paramesthi

guru

> Himself ...see Shiva Puraana for details of panchashari dikshaa

for more

> details.

>

> Guru, praatpara guru, parama guru and parameshthi guru are the

four levels.

>

> Chandra gets cursed by Lord Shiva due to this terrible sin of

cheating the

> Guru of all the devas and consequently this tithi carries the sin

showing

> that one born on Krishna Chaturdashi has the sin of cheating a

guru in a

> past incarnation. So in this life they will naturally have to be

very

> careful and not repeat the same mistake. They should atone for the

sin and

> the best remedy is the Shri Somanatha Puja as taught by Shri

Krishna.

>

> Somanatha is the laaTa of Lord Shiva and the highest jyotirlingam

>

> Full Shiva Lingam pradakshina is prohibited as one crosses the

shakti line

> (normally facing east or north) inside the temple, so this an be

done

> outside the temple.

>

> Recitation of 1 crore panchakshari mantra is a very good remedy. I

believe

> in japa in Kali yuga

>

> With best wishes,

>

> Sanjay Rath

>

> 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, Delhi, India 110060

>

> www.srath.com <http://www.srath.com/> , www.. org,

www.sohamsa.

> com

>

> vinayak tandle [vinayakmech ie ]

> Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:56 AM

> sohamsa@ .com; vedic astrology;

>

> ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

PRADIKSHINA

>

> Dear Gurujans

>

> Please elaborate why there is anger of shiva on Chaturdasi birth.

Shivlinga

> Pradikshina to be done half or full & the reason if pradikshina

has to be

> done half.

>

> Regards

>

> Vinayak P Tandle

>

October 12, 2008

Dear AJ,

Thank you for sharing. I found this very interesting. You knowledge in

mythology and ancient history has to be applauded.

Regards,

Souvik

sohamsa , " Arpad Joo " <panchasila wrote:

>

> -

> Hare Rama Krishna,

> Dear Sanjay

>

> There is a curious parallel in ancient greek mythology with regards

> to Krishna paksha chaturdashi and Amavasya.

> On chaturdashi tithi (Krishna paksha) Goddess Persephone, the

> beautiful and chaste/innocent daughter was abducted forcibly by

> Hades (alias Pluto- NOT the planet) who is the Ruler of the

> Underworld ( a sort of Lunar figure)and on Amavasya she was raped.

> Unfortunately there was no way back for her (in the greek

> tradition),though she was allowed to return once a year.(Ancient

> Greeks celebrated the return of Persephone every year with great

> festivals). While the abduction and rape went on, the Goddess

> Hecate, whose image is a widow, an old crone, (a sort of Devi of

> witchcraft,occult arts and incantations) looked on and witnessed the

> whole thing.(She is a lunar Goddess)

> The symbolism is clear enough.

> For the last several thousand years in Europe (yes Europe),black

> magicians, witches performed their curses during chaturdashi and

> Amavasya.Some of them were quite accomplished in these " black arts " ,

> if the annals of history is to be believed. Even today Italian

> witches celebrate " Hecate's " moon on these days. The well known

> curse on the Hapsburg House, the royal family of Austria/Hungary

> was " done " on Amavasya, and if ever a curse " worked " surely this

> was it. Among the effects: the Crown Prince (Rudolph)commited

> suicide together with his girlfriend,the Empress was assassinated by

> an Italian anarchist in Geneva,the Royal couple's daughter died of

> fever,another cousin Maximilian was executed in Mexico, a sister of

> the Emperor ended her life in the insane asylum and finally the new

> Crown Prince of the Empire,(nephew of the Emperor),Franz Ferdinand

> was asassinated together with his wife in Sarajevo, Bosnia.(1914)

> (starting the first world war, incidentally).The Empire was

> finished.The Republic of Austria was created and the Hapsburg

> dynasty was exiled from their native land. The curse was fulfilled

> to the hilt.

>

> With deep respect to all

>

> A.J.

>

> -- In sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vinayak

> >

> > The anger of Shiva was due to the Moon God cheating a Guru. Lord

> Shiva is

> > sworn to protect all Gurus of every parampara/tradition as He is

> the

> > embodiment of all knowledge. Chandra came to Brihaspati on KRISHNA

> > CHATURDASI and then ran away with Guru's wife Tara. So Lord Shiva

> lays curse

> > ON THIS TITHI only.

> >

> > The on AMAVASYA Tara was raped by Chandra ...So KALI MATA lays

> curse on this

> > tithi and says that women born in this tithi suffer rape and loss

> of purity

> > and burn inside just as Tara did.

> >

> > ON PRATIPADA Chandra realised his mistake and returned Tara to

> Brihaspati,

> > so this is the Tithi for forgiveness and Agni/Gayatri mantra has

> the power

> > to remove all curses and bring forgiveness. Use Tulsi mala for

> Gayatri

> > mantra to get good results while red coral mala is the best as

> Tulsi has

> > Agni in it. Agni is Brahmana Guru

> >

> > That should clarify

> >

> > No curse on Tithi in sukla paksha

> >

> > Best Regards

> >

> > Sanjay Rath

> >

> > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On

> Behalf Of

> > vinayak tandle

> > 11 October 2008 21:54

> > sohamsa

> > RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA

> CHATURDASI BIRTH &

> > LINGA PRADIKSHINA

> >

> > Adarniya Pt Sanjay Rath Guruji Namaste,

> >

> > Could you please shed light on whether the Anger of Shiva is there

> > irrespective of Paksha or it is there only for krishna paksha

> chaturdasi

> > birth.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Vinayak P Tandle

> >

> > --- On Sat, 10/11/08, Sanjay Rath <sjrath@> wrote:

> >

> > Sanjay Rath <sjrath@>

> > RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> > PRADIKSHINA

> > sohamsa

> > Saturday, October 11, 2008, 9:44 PM

> >

> > Dear Rashmi

> >

> > Use a diamond (saptarishi nadi) ..it will improve your finances

> considerably

> >

> > Sanjay

> >

> > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]

> On Behalf

> > Of rashmi patel

> > 10 October 2008 09:49

> > sohamsa@ .com

> > Cc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au

> > Fw: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> > PRADIKSHINA

> >

> > ----- Forwarded Message ----

> > rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >

> > sohamsa@ .com

> > Cc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au

> > Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:44:36 PM

> > Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> > PRADIKSHINA

> >

> > Respected Karuji,

> >

> > Actually I am so sorry to tell you that I am born on sukal paksh

> charurdasi

> > [chaudas] a day before purnima or full moon day so please excuse

> me I

> > accidently put chaturthi its wrong sorry.

> >

> > I was curious in other conversation going on for krishna paksha so

> I ask on

> > my shukla paksha effects for chaudas born, but intresting thing is

> you had

> > answered my question for chaturthi & the explanation of 6th house

> & ketu &

> > mercury conjuction, well I have similar conjuction let me tell you

> my

> > kundali so you will understand it exactly

> >

> > my details DATE=12/may/ 57 TIME 04;25 AM PLACE=ADEN [yemen]

> >

> > Mesh lagna & in Mesh=sun,mercury, ketu,Vrishabh= venus,Gemini=

> mars,leo=

> > jupiter,Tula= moon,rahu, Scorpio=saturn

> >

> > so see here I have mercury,ketu conjuction is this bad??so tell me

> what you

> > think on my kundali any sugestions?

> >

> > Thank you so much

> >

> > rashmikant

> >

> > Karu Heenkenda <heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au>

> > sohamsa@ .com

> > Tuesday, October 7, 2008 10:05:49 PM

> > RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> > PRADIKSHINA

> >

> > Hare Rama Krshna

> >

> > Dear Rashmi,

> >

> > Buddhi (Budda) is illegitimate son of Supreme intelligence (Guru)

> and the

> > day it cause was Krishna Chaturdasi (Fully Dark). Moon also

> cursed by

> > Ganesha on chaturti and from that date, Moon fluctuates.

> >

> > The fact is, We all are like Buda, as long as we are learning.

> That means we

> > all have curse of Guru as well as Ganesha. That is why we are

> separated from

> > supreme intelligence.

> >

> > When we want to learn, we must have blessing of Upachaya lords as

> > development of DHI comes from Upachaya, 3rd or 6th house. Now see

> from

> > karaka Mercury. From Gemini 6th house ruled by Ketu, and form

> Virgo 3rd

> > house ruled by Ketu. If Ketu conjoined Mercury, what development

> we can

> > expect ? Ganesh simply destroying Mercury, that s all.

> >

> > So, make it positive, we need to worship Ganesh in the first place

> as he

> > alone has the key for door. Then, If we want to find the father,

> we must

> > worship Guru in the form of Shiva, regardless the titi or day we

> born. He is

> > so kind and one day will keep you on his head, where all streams of

> > knowledge starts.

> >

> > So don't create barriers yourself. Worshiping Ganesh and Shiva is

> so

> > important. Otherwise we will continue to be same and will be

> separated for

> > ever.

> >

> > Best Wishes

> >

> > Karu

> >

> > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]

> On Behalf

> > Of rashmi patel

> > Monday, 22 September 2008 11:09 AM

> > sohamsa@ .com

> > Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> > PRADIKSHINA

> >

> > Dear Gurujano,

> >

> > Please give me more guidence on this chathurdasi birth I am sukla

> paksh

> > chathurthi birth ok

> >

> > please let me know too ok

> >

> > thanks

> >

> > rashmi

> >

> > vinayak tandle <vinayakmechie@ <http:///>

> >

> > sohamsa@ .com

> > Sunday, September 21, 2008 11:55:36 AM

> > RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> > PRADIKSHINA

> >

> > Adarniya Guruji Namaskar,

> >

> > Its a great pleasure to get a reply from you. Guruji you have

> mentioned that

> > the Krishna Chaturdasi birth has the anger of shiva. Whether for

> Sukla

> > Chaturdasi too there is Anger of Shiva.My birth is in Sukla

> chaturdasi.

> > Vistiji mentions that the Anger of lord shiva is there

> irrespective of

> > PAksh, Please clarify. If you could please analyse my chart for

> the same

> > whether I have cheated guru in my past birth & remedies.

> >

> > DOB: 17 April 1981

> >

> > TOB: 14:10 PM

> >

> > POB: Belgaum, Karnatak India.

> >

> > Life Event: Death of Father on 4 Feb 1996

> >

> > Joined the JOB on: 30 Dec 2004

> >

> > Eagerly waiting for your blessings

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > --- On Sun, 9/21/08, Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com>

> wrote:

> >

> > Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com>

> > RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> > PRADIKSHINA

> > sohamsa@ .com

> > Sunday, September 21, 2008, 2:47 PM

> >

> > om gurave namah

> >

> > Dear Vinayaka

> >

> > Technically this tithi is ruled by Venus and Chandra loses his

> senses and

> > goes to the house of Guru Brihaspati as a false shishya on Krishna

> > Chaturdasi and later abducts Tärä on Amavasya. This tithi

> symbolizes all the

> > cheating and falsity one does towards a guru – siksha or diksha

> guru and

> > this is normally indicated as the darker side of the Asura guru

> Shukra

> > (Venus).

> >

> > Lord Shiva is the protector of all the gurus and is the Paramesthi

> guru

> > Himself ...see Shiva Puraana for details of panchashari dikshaa

> for more

> > details.

> >

> > Guru, praatpara guru, parama guru and parameshthi guru are the

> four levels.

> >

> > Chandra gets cursed by Lord Shiva due to this terrible sin of

> cheating the

> > Guru of all the devas and consequently this tithi carries the sin

> showing

> > that one born on Krishna Chaturdashi has the sin of cheating a

> guru in a

> > past incarnation. So in this life they will naturally have to be

> very

> > careful and not repeat the same mistake. They should atone for the

> sin and

> > the best remedy is the Shri Somanatha Puja as taught by Shri

> Krishna.

> >

> > Somanatha is the laaTa of Lord Shiva and the highest jyotirlingam

> >

> > Full Shiva Lingam pradakshina is prohibited as one crosses the

> shakti line

> > (normally facing east or north) inside the temple, so this an be

> done

> > outside the temple.

> >

> > Recitation of 1 crore panchakshari mantra is a very good remedy. I

> believe

> > in japa in Kali yuga

> >

> > With best wishes,

> >

> > Sanjay Rath

> >

> > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, Delhi, India 110060

> >

> > www.srath.com <http://www.srath.com/> , www.. org,

> www.sohamsa.

> > com

> >

> > vinayak tandle [vinayakmech ie ]

> > Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:56 AM

> > sohamsa@ .com; vedic astrology;

> >

> > ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

> >

> > Dear Gurujans

> >

> > Please elaborate why there is anger of shiva on Chaturdasi birth.

> Shivlinga

> > Pradikshina to be done half or full & the reason if pradikshina

> has to be

> > done half.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Vinayak P Tandle

> >

>

October 12, 2008

Hare Rama Krishna Dear AJ, Interesting post!. Can you please give more detail or give the info regarding this statement. " The well known curse on the Hapsburg House, the royal family of Austria/Hungary was "done" on Amavasya," Thank-you Lakshmi Arpad Joo <panchasila wrote: -Hare Rama Krishna,Dear SanjayThere is a curious parallel in ancient greek mythology with regards to Krishna paksha chaturdashi and

Amavasya.On chaturdashi tithi (Krishna paksha) Goddess Persephone, the beautiful and chaste/innocent daughter was abducted forcibly by Hades (alias Pluto- NOT the planet) who is the Ruler of the Underworld ( a sort of Lunar figure)and on Amavasya she was raped. Unfortunately there was no way back for her (in the greek tradition),though she was allowed to return once a year.(Ancient Greeks celebrated the return of Persephone every year with great festivals). While the abduction and rape went on, the Goddess Hecate, whose image is a widow, an old crone, (a sort of Devi of witchcraft,occult arts and incantations) looked on and witnessed the whole thing.(She is a lunar Goddess)The symbolism is clear enough.For the last several thousand years in Europe (yes Europe),black magicians, witches performed their curses during chaturdashi and Amavasya.Some of them were quite accomplished in these "black arts", if the

annals of history is to be believed. Even today Italian witches celebrate "Hecate's" moon on these days. The well known curse on the Hapsburg House, the royal family of Austria/Hungary was "done" on Amavasya, and if ever a curse "worked" surely this was it. Among the effects: the Crown Prince (Rudolph)commited suicide together with his girlfriend,the Empress was assassinated by an Italian anarchist in Geneva,the Royal couple's daughter died of fever,another cousin Maximilian was executed in Mexico, a sister of the Emperor ended her life in the insane asylum and finally the new Crown Prince of the Empire,(nephew of the Emperor),Franz Ferdinand was asassinated together with his wife in Sarajevo, Bosnia.(1914)(starting the first world war, incidentally).The Empire was finished.The Republic of Austria was created and the Hapsburg dynasty was exiled from their native land. The curse was fulfilled to the

hilt.With deep respect to allA.J.-- In sohamsa , "Sanjay Rath" <sjrath wrote:>> Dear Vinayak> > The anger of Shiva was due to the Moon God cheating a Guru. Lord Shiva is> sworn to protect all Gurus of every parampara/tradition as He is the> embodiment of all knowledge. Chandra came to Brihaspati on KRISHNA> CHATURDASI and then ran away with Guru's wife Tara. So Lord Shiva lays curse> ON THIS TITHI only. > > The on AMAVASYA Tara was raped by Chandra ...So KALI MATA lays curse on this> tithi and says that women born in this tithi suffer rape and loss of purity> and burn inside just as Tara did.> > ON PRATIPADA Chandra realised his mistake and returned Tara to Brihaspati,> so this is the Tithi for forgiveness and Agni/Gayatri mantra has the

power> to remove all curses and bring forgiveness. Use Tulsi mala for Gayatri> mantra to get good results while red coral mala is the best as Tulsi has> Agni in it. Agni is Brahmana Guru> > That should clarify> > No curse on Tithi in sukla paksha> > Best Regards> > Sanjay Rath> > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of> vinayak tandle> 11 October 2008 21:54> sohamsa > RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA CHATURDASI BIRTH & > LINGA PRADIKSHINA> > > > > Adarniya Pt Sanjay Rath Guruji Namaste,> > > > Could you please shed

light on whether the Anger of Shiva is there> irrespective of Paksha or it is there only for krishna paksha chaturdasi> birth.> > > > Regards> > > > Vinayak P Tandle> > > --- On Sat, 10/11/08, Sanjay Rath <sjrath wrote:> > Sanjay Rath <sjrath> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA> PRADIKSHINA> sohamsa > Saturday, October 11, 2008, 9:44 PM> > Dear Rashmi> > Use a diamond (saptarishi nadi) ..it will improve your finances considerably> > Sanjay> > > > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On Behalf> Of rashmi patel> 10 October 2008 09:49> sohamsa@ .com>

Cc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au> Fw: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA> PRADIKSHINA> > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----> rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >> sohamsa@ .com> Cc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au> Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:44:36 PM> Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA> PRADIKSHINA> > Respected Karuji,> > Actually I am so sorry to tell you that I am born on sukal paksh charurdasi> [chaudas] a day before purnima or full moon day so please excuse me I> accidently put chaturthi its wrong sorry.> > I was curious in other conversation going on for krishna paksha so I ask on> my shukla paksha effects for chaudas born, but intresting thing is you had> answered my question for

chaturthi & the explanation of 6th house & ketu & > mercury conjuction, well I have similar conjuction let me tell you my> kundali so you will understand it exactly> > my details DATE=12/may/ 57 TIME 04;25 AM PLACE=ADEN [yemen]> > Mesh lagna & in Mesh=sun,mercury, ketu,Vrishabh= venus,Gemini= mars,leo=> jupiter,Tula= moon,rahu, Scorpio=saturn> > so see here I have mercury,ketu conjuction is this bad??so tell me what you> think on my kundali any sugestions?> > Thank you so much> > rashmikant > > > > > > > Karu Heenkenda <heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au>> sohamsa@ .com> Tuesday, October 7, 2008 10:05:49 PM> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA> PRADIKSHINA> > Hare Rama

Krshna> > > > Dear Rashmi,> > > > Buddhi (Budda) is illegitimate son of Supreme intelligence (Guru) and the> day it cause was Krishna Chaturdasi (Fully Dark). Moon also cursed by> Ganesha on chaturti and from that date, Moon fluctuates.> > The fact is, We all are like Buda, as long as we are learning. That means we> all have curse of Guru as well as Ganesha. That is why we are separated from> supreme intelligence. > > When we want to learn, we must have blessing of Upachaya lords as> development of DHI comes from Upachaya, 3rd or 6th house. Now see from> karaka Mercury. From Gemini 6th house ruled by Ketu, and form Virgo 3rd> house ruled by Ketu. If Ketu conjoined Mercury, what development we can> expect ? Ganesh simply destroying Mercury, that s all. > > So, make it positive, we need to

worship Ganesh in the first place as he> alone has the key for door. Then, If we want to find the father, we must> worship Guru in the form of Shiva, regardless the titi or day we born. He is> so kind and one day will keep you on his head, where all streams of> knowledge starts. > > So don't create barriers yourself. Worshiping Ganesh and Shiva is so> important. Otherwise we will continue to be same and will be separated for> ever. > > Best Wishes > > Karu > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On Behalf> Of rashmi patel> Monday, 22 September 2008 11:09 AM> sohamsa@ .com> Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA> PRADIKSHINA> > > > Dear Gurujano,> > Please give

me more guidence on this chathurdasi birth I am sukla paksh> chathurthi birth ok> > please let me know too ok> > thanks> > rashmi > > > > > vinayak tandle <vinayakmechie@ <http:///> >> sohamsa@ .com> Sunday, September 21, 2008 11:55:36 AM> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA> PRADIKSHINA > > > Adarniya Guruji Namaskar,> > > > Its a great pleasure to get a reply from you. Guruji you have mentioned that> the Krishna Chaturdasi birth has the anger of shiva. Whether for Sukla> Chaturdasi too there is Anger of Shiva.My birth is in Sukla chaturdasi.> Vistiji mentions that the Anger of lord shiva is there irrespective

of> PAksh, Please clarify. If you could please analyse my chart for the same> whether I have cheated guru in my past birth & remedies.> > DOB: 17 April 1981> > TOB: 14:10 PM> > POB: Belgaum, Karnatak India.> > Life Event: Death of Father on 4 Feb 1996> > Joined the JOB on: 30 Dec 2004> > > > Eagerly waiting for your blessings> > > > Regards> > --- On Sun, 9/21/08, Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com> wrote:> > Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com>> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA> PRADIKSHINA> sohamsa@ .com> Sunday, September 21, 2008, 2:47 PM > > > > > > om gurave namah> > Dear Vinayaka > > Technically

this tithi is ruled by Venus and Chandra loses his senses and> goes to the house of Guru Brihaspati as a false shishya on Krishna> Chaturdasi and later abducts Tärä on Amavasya. This tithi symbolizes all the> cheating and falsity one does towards a guru – siksha or diksha guru and> this is normally indicated as the darker side of the Asura guru Shukra> (Venus). > > Lord Shiva is the protector of all the gurus and is the Paramesthi guru> Himself ...see Shiva Puraana for details of panchashari dikshaa for more> details. > > Guru, praatpara guru, parama guru and parameshthi guru are the four levels. > > Chandra gets cursed by Lord Shiva due to this terrible sin of cheating the> Guru of all the devas and consequently this tithi carries the sin showing> that one born on Krishna Chaturdashi has the sin of cheating a guru in a>

past incarnation. So in this life they will naturally have to be very> careful and not repeat the same mistake. They should atone for the sin and> the best remedy is the Shri Somanatha Puja as taught by Shri Krishna. > > Somanatha is the laaTa of Lord Shiva and the highest jyotirlingam > > > > Full Shiva Lingam pradakshina is prohibited as one crosses the shakti line> (normally facing east or north) inside the temple, so this an be done> outside the temple. > > Recitation of 1 crore panchakshari mantra is a very good remedy. I believe> in japa in Kali yuga > > With best wishes, > > Sanjay Rath > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, Delhi, India 110060 > > www.srath.com <http://www.srath.com/> , www.. org, www.sohamsa.> com > >

> > vinayak tandle [vinayakmech ie ] > Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:56 AM> sohamsa@ .com; vedic astrology;> > ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA> > > > > Dear Gurujans> > > > Please elaborate why there is anger of shiva on Chaturdasi birth. Shivlinga> Pradikshina to be done half or full & the reason if pradikshina has to be> done half.> > > > Regards> > > > Vinayak P Tandle>

October 12, 2008

Namaskar Respected Guruji Sanjayji,

Thanks for guiding on oct/11/08 leting me know that I should wear

diamond that will improve my financial situations more it also says

in braket saparishi nadi which I didnt understand so please looking

my chart tell how big diamond i should wear & when is best time to

wear & which fingure also for some reason i wear yellow topaz for

guru but i wear on third fingure & not first infact i tried but i

automatically put back to third fingure & not first one so please

guide me on that what to do?

What good effect it will give me wearing diamond because i was told

by astrologer not to wear even though my venus is in his own house in

2nd house so please guide me what to do? my birth detail is DOB=

12/MAY/57 , TIME= 04;45AM, PLACE= ADEN [YEMEN]

Thanks you so much for guiding me & charan prush to you

RASHMIKANT

sohamsa , " Souvik Dutta " <explore_vulcan

wrote:

>

> Dear AJ,

>

> Thank you for sharing. I found this very interesting. You knowledge

in

> mythology and ancient history has to be applauded.

>

> Regards,

>

> Souvik

>

> sohamsa , " Arpad Joo " <panchasila@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > Dear Sanjay

> >

> > There is a curious parallel in ancient greek mythology with

regards

> > to Krishna paksha chaturdashi and Amavasya.

> > On chaturdashi tithi (Krishna paksha) Goddess Persephone, the

> > beautiful and chaste/innocent daughter was abducted forcibly by

> > Hades (alias Pluto- NOT the planet) who is the Ruler of the

> > Underworld ( a sort of Lunar figure)and on Amavasya she was

raped.

> > Unfortunately there was no way back for her (in the greek

> > tradition),though she was allowed to return once a year.(Ancient

> > Greeks celebrated the return of Persephone every year with great

> > festivals). While the abduction and rape went on, the Goddess

> > Hecate, whose image is a widow, an old crone, (a sort of Devi of

> > witchcraft,occult arts and incantations) looked on and witnessed

the

> > whole thing.(She is a lunar Goddess)

> > The symbolism is clear enough.

> > For the last several thousand years in Europe (yes Europe),black

> > magicians, witches performed their curses during chaturdashi and

> > Amavasya.Some of them were quite accomplished in these " black

arts " ,

> > if the annals of history is to be believed. Even today Italian

> > witches celebrate " Hecate's " moon on these days. The well known

> > curse on the Hapsburg House, the royal family of Austria/Hungary

> > was " done " on Amavasya, and if ever a curse " worked " surely this

> > was it. Among the effects: the Crown Prince (Rudolph)commited

> > suicide together with his girlfriend,the Empress was assassinated

by

> > an Italian anarchist in Geneva,the Royal couple's daughter died

of

> > fever,another cousin Maximilian was executed in Mexico, a sister

of

> > the Emperor ended her life in the insane asylum and finally the

new

> > Crown Prince of the Empire,(nephew of the Emperor),Franz

Ferdinand

> > was asassinated together with his wife in Sarajevo, Bosnia.(1914)

> > (starting the first world war, incidentally).The Empire was

> > finished.The Republic of Austria was created and the Hapsburg

> > dynasty was exiled from their native land. The curse was

fulfilled

> > to the hilt.

> >

> > With deep respect to all

> >

> > A.J.

> >

> > -- In sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vinayak

> > >

> > > The anger of Shiva was due to the Moon God cheating a Guru.

Lord

> > Shiva is

> > > sworn to protect all Gurus of every parampara/tradition as He

is

> > the

> > > embodiment of all knowledge. Chandra came to Brihaspati on

KRISHNA

> > > CHATURDASI and then ran away with Guru's wife Tara. So Lord

Shiva

> > lays curse

> > > ON THIS TITHI only.

> > >

> > > The on AMAVASYA Tara was raped by Chandra ...So KALI MATA lays

> > curse on this

> > > tithi and says that women born in this tithi suffer rape and

loss

> > of purity

> > > and burn inside just as Tara did.

> > >

> > > ON PRATIPADA Chandra realised his mistake and returned Tara to

> > Brihaspati,

> > > so this is the Tithi for forgiveness and Agni/Gayatri mantra

has

> > the power

> > > to remove all curses and bring forgiveness. Use Tulsi mala for

> > Gayatri

> > > mantra to get good results while red coral mala is the best as

> > Tulsi has

> > > Agni in it. Agni is Brahmana Guru

> > >

> > > That should clarify

> > >

> > > No curse on Tithi in sukla paksha

> > >

> > > Best Regards

> > >

> > > Sanjay Rath

> > >

> > > sohamsa [sohamsa ]

On

> > Behalf Of

> > > vinayak tandle

> > > 11 October 2008 21:54

> > > sohamsa

> > > RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA

> > CHATURDASI BIRTH &

> > > LINGA PRADIKSHINA

> > >

> > > Adarniya Pt Sanjay Rath Guruji Namaste,

> > >

> > > Could you please shed light on whether the Anger of Shiva is

there

> > > irrespective of Paksha or it is there only for krishna paksha

> > chaturdasi

> > > birth.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Vinayak P Tandle

> > >

> > > --- On Sat, 10/11/08, Sanjay Rath <sjrath@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sanjay Rath <sjrath@>

> > > RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH &

LINGA

> > > PRADIKSHINA

> > > sohamsa

> > > Saturday, October 11, 2008, 9:44 PM

> > >

> > > Dear Rashmi

> > >

> > > Use a diamond (saptarishi nadi) ..it will improve your finances

> > considerably

> > >

> > > Sanjay

> > >

> > > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@ .

com]

> > On Behalf

> > > Of rashmi patel

> > > 10 October 2008 09:49

> > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > Cc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au

> > > Fw: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH &

LINGA

> > > PRADIKSHINA

> > >

> > > ----- Forwarded Message ----

> > > rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >

> > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > Cc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au

> > > Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:44:36 PM

> > > Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH &

LINGA

> > > PRADIKSHINA

> > >

> > > Respected Karuji,

> > >

> > > Actually I am so sorry to tell you that I am born on sukal

paksh

> > charurdasi

> > > [chaudas] a day before purnima or full moon day so please

excuse

> > me I

> > > accidently put chaturthi its wrong sorry.

> > >

> > > I was curious in other conversation going on for krishna paksha

so

> > I ask on

> > > my shukla paksha effects for chaudas born, but intresting thing

is

> > you had

> > > answered my question for chaturthi & the explanation of 6th

house

> > & ketu &

> > > mercury conjuction, well I have similar conjuction let me tell

you

> > my

> > > kundali so you will understand it exactly

> > >

> > > my details DATE=12/may/ 57 TIME 04;25 AM PLACE=ADEN [yemen]

> > >

> > > Mesh lagna & in Mesh=sun,mercury, ketu,Vrishabh= venus,Gemini=

> > mars,leo=

> > > jupiter,Tula= moon,rahu, Scorpio=saturn

> > >

> > > so see here I have mercury,ketu conjuction is this bad??so tell

me

> > what you

> > > think on my kundali any sugestions?

> > >

> > > Thank you so much

> > >

> > > rashmikant

> > >

> > > Karu Heenkenda <heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au>

> > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > Tuesday, October 7, 2008 10:05:49 PM

> > > RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH &

LINGA

> > > PRADIKSHINA

> > >

> > > Hare Rama Krshna

> > >

> > > Dear Rashmi,

> > >

> > > Buddhi (Budda) is illegitimate son of Supreme intelligence

(Guru)

> > and the

> > > day it cause was Krishna Chaturdasi (Fully Dark). Moon also

> > cursed by

> > > Ganesha on chaturti and from that date, Moon fluctuates.

> > >

> > > The fact is, We all are like Buda, as long as we are learning.

> > That means we

> > > all have curse of Guru as well as Ganesha. That is why we are

> > separated from

> > > supreme intelligence.

> > >

> > > When we want to learn, we must have blessing of Upachaya lords

as

> > > development of DHI comes from Upachaya, 3rd or 6th house. Now

see

> > from

> > > karaka Mercury. From Gemini 6th house ruled by Ketu, and form

> > Virgo 3rd

> > > house ruled by Ketu. If Ketu conjoined Mercury, what

development

> > we can

> > > expect ? Ganesh simply destroying Mercury, that s all.

> > >

> > > So, make it positive, we need to worship Ganesh in the first

place

> > as he

> > > alone has the key for door. Then, If we want to find the

father,

> > we must

> > > worship Guru in the form of Shiva, regardless the titi or day

we

> > born. He is

> > > so kind and one day will keep you on his head, where all

streams of

> > > knowledge starts.

> > >

> > > So don't create barriers yourself. Worshiping Ganesh and Shiva

is

> > so

> > > important. Otherwise we will continue to be same and will be

> > separated for

> > > ever.

> > >

> > > Best Wishes

> > >

> > > Karu

> > >

> > > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@ .

com]

> > On Behalf

> > > Of rashmi patel

> > > Monday, 22 September 2008 11:09 AM

> > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH &

LINGA

> > > PRADIKSHINA

> > >

> > > Dear Gurujano,

> > >

> > > Please give me more guidence on this chathurdasi birth I am

sukla

> > paksh

> > > chathurthi birth ok

> > >

> > > please let me know too ok

> > >

> > > thanks

> > >

> > > rashmi

> > >

> > > vinayak tandle <vinayakmechie@

<http:///>

> > >

> > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > Sunday, September 21, 2008 11:55:36 AM

> > > RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH &

LINGA

> > > PRADIKSHINA

> > >

> > > Adarniya Guruji Namaskar,

> > >

> > > Its a great pleasure to get a reply from you. Guruji you have

> > mentioned that

> > > the Krishna Chaturdasi birth has the anger of shiva. Whether

for

> > Sukla

> > > Chaturdasi too there is Anger of Shiva.My birth is in Sukla

> > chaturdasi.

> > > Vistiji mentions that the Anger of lord shiva is there

> > irrespective of

> > > PAksh, Please clarify. If you could please analyse my chart for

> > the same

> > > whether I have cheated guru in my past birth & remedies.

> > >

> > > DOB: 17 April 1981

> > >

> > > TOB: 14:10 PM

> > >

> > > POB: Belgaum, Karnatak India.

> > >

> > > Life Event: Death of Father on 4 Feb 1996

> > >

> > > Joined the JOB on: 30 Dec 2004

> > >

> > > Eagerly waiting for your blessings

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > --- On Sun, 9/21/08, Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com>

> > > RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH &

LINGA

> > > PRADIKSHINA

> > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > Sunday, September 21, 2008, 2:47 PM

> > >

> > > om gurave namah

> > >

> > > Dear Vinayaka

> > >

> > > Technically this tithi is ruled by Venus and Chandra loses his

> > senses and

> > > goes to the house of Guru Brihaspati as a false shishya on

Krishna

> > > Chaturdasi and later abducts Tärä on Amavasya. This tithi

> > symbolizes all the

> > > cheating and falsity one does towards a guru – siksha or diksha

> > guru and

> > > this is normally indicated as the darker side of the Asura guru

> > Shukra

> > > (Venus).

> > >

> > > Lord Shiva is the protector of all the gurus and is the

Paramesthi

> > guru

> > > Himself ...see Shiva Puraana for details of panchashari dikshaa

> > for more

> > > details.

> > >

> > > Guru, praatpara guru, parama guru and parameshthi guru are the

> > four levels.

> > >

> > > Chandra gets cursed by Lord Shiva due to this terrible sin of

> > cheating the

> > > Guru of all the devas and consequently this tithi carries the

sin

> > showing

> > > that one born on Krishna Chaturdashi has the sin of cheating a

> > guru in a

> > > past incarnation. So in this life they will naturally have to

be

> > very

> > > careful and not repeat the same mistake. They should atone for

the

> > sin and

> > > the best remedy is the Shri Somanatha Puja as taught by Shri

> > Krishna.

> > >

> > > Somanatha is the laaTa of Lord Shiva and the highest

jyotirlingam

> > >

> > > Full Shiva Lingam pradakshina is prohibited as one crosses the

> > shakti line

> > > (normally facing east or north) inside the temple, so this an

be

> > done

> > > outside the temple.

> > >

> > > Recitation of 1 crore panchakshari mantra is a very good

remedy. I

> > believe

> > > in japa in Kali yuga

> > >

> > > With best wishes,

> > >

> > > Sanjay Rath

> > >

> > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, Delhi, India 110060

> > >

> > > www.srath.com <http://www.srath.com/> , www.. org,

> > www.sohamsa.

> > > com

> > >

> > > vinayak tandle [vinayakmech ie ]

> > > Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:56 AM

> > > sohamsa@ .com; vedic astrology;

> > >

> > > ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> > PRADIKSHINA

> > >

> > > Dear Gurujans

> > >

> > > Please elaborate why there is anger of shiva on Chaturdasi

birth.

> > Shivlinga

> > > Pradikshina to be done half or full & the reason if pradikshina

> > has to be

> > > done half.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Vinayak P Tandle

> > >

> >

>

October 13, 2008

Hare Rama Krishna,

Dear Lakshmi

Curses have a long history in Europe.Indeed Europen culture is

replete with poetic,artistic and even musical expressions of curses

and redemption from curses and maledictions.The immortal Italian

composer G.Verdi's Opera, Rigoletto starts with a famous curse and

the entire opera unfolds the fulfillment of this curse. Later the

same composer in another work (Trovatore) deals with curses of

gypsies. The great German composer R. Wagner monumental " Ring " (4

operas in the cycle)deals with a " grand " curse and the redemption

from it by Love. Even in his last opera, " Parsifal " (5 hours long),

the main motive and the plot is a curse of a Rishi- unexpectedly,

according to the ancient legend, Christ himself. (On the way to

cucifixion, he paused by an open window, where a jewish prostitute

by the name of " Kundry " entertained some Roman nobility.(You can

imagine the scene. Pretty x rated)As Christ looked up the window,

Kundry mocked him and laughed at his suffering. Then Christ calmly

pronounced a curse: you shall see no death but live with your shame

ever after. (or something like that). The entire Opera in 5+ hours

deals with the aftermath and the eventual absolution (in the last

act).The music is as Divine as it is soulwrenching.

In the " El Amor Brujo " by the great Spanish composer, Manuel DeFalla

shows us the dark aspects of the " gypsy curse " . (Unfortunately the

title is untranslatable, many have tried but failed. " Brujo " means

sorcerer, El Amor, is of course love. Perhaps Love magic- I would

call it vashikaran+akarshan). The Hungarian Composer Liszt even

wrote a short piano concerto with the title: " Malediction " ! Looks

like the Europeans in the 19th and early 20th century cursed a lot.

(or were fascinated by it.)

Back to the gypsies. In the country of my origin there are about 1

million gypsies, or Roma people. In neighboring Romania there are

many, many more.Quite a sizable gypsy population exists in Spain and

in other European countries They are organized in various

clans,casts and even tribes.As is well known, the Roma people came

from India. Many has retained some ancient esoteric knowledge,

expertise in the occult ars, black arts, magic and that sort of

things. (Perhaps the remnants of some tantric vidyas).They have a so

called " grand curse " which is performed by old widows who are

especially trained in herbalogy,medicine,incantations etc.

This " Grand Curse " is done extremely rarely, and only on Amavasya!

Of course black magic and these sort of things are as old as the

hills.Every culture and country has some of it.However, I know of

one example when it was performed: the Hapsburg Curse.

In 1850 (or 51) the universally loved and respected Prime Minister

of Hungary (then newly independent) was executed by fireing squad,

upon the explicit order of the Emperor of Austria, Franz Joseph of

the Hapsburg House. The story is itself quite interesting, but I

shall not digress here.(Europe was outraged and even the US Senate

condemned it in 1851)Now the Prime minister was't just anybody but a

blue blooded noble, with large landholdings, territories,

castles ,followings etc. Historians today argue, the Emperor was

very young and under the influence of his mother, who for some

reason of her own, pushed for this execution. However, the Prime

minister also had a mother, and hell knows no fury when " Ma " is

angry….And she was in rage! She has gathered her paraphernalia and

with the help of the Romany Gypsies (after all on her estates there

were large Gypsy encampments), according to some accounts,the " Grand

Curse " was performed. She cursed the hell out of the Hapsburg House.

Something like : " … and you shall know 10 times the pain which I

feel now.+++ " (in otherwords: quite a professional " Maran " .) It

certainly stuck to the Hapsburg house.

Something more about the European Gypsies. As you may well

know,there are a few so called " Black Madonnas " in Europe.These

statues are especially venerated (by the Gypsies, and also

others).There is a famous one in Chartres Cathedral (France)another

in Northern Spain (Montserrat), then yet another one in Switzerland

(Einsideln) and even in Poland there is a well known Black Madonna.

(There are others as well in Germany, France and Italy- not many

though.) Now the Gypsies as I have said before,especially venerate

these black Madonnas, calling her " Kali Ma " . We must not be too

fixated by a charter of a thing, rather look for the function.

These " Murtis " , for this is what it is, function as " Kali Ma " for

the Gypsies.They must have retained the power contacts, rites,

incantations etc. On certain festival occasions thousands, nay tens

of thousands will congregate and worship her according to ancient

practices.To gain entrance into secret rites and practices,

especially knowing anything about the " Grand Curse " is impossible.

Whether Countess Batthyanyi (the mother of the slain Prime minister)

was an initiate of these practices is anybody's guess…or she just

availed herself of some " professionals in the Gypsy camps? We can

only conjecture here.

As an interesting footnote to this, I may add, that an Aghori told

me some time ago (and I am here remembering back to the late 1980

s), that the Royal House of Nepal was cursed by a Nepalese Aghori.

He narrated to me that King Birendra insulted the leader of the

Aghoris with something. Trust me: you definitely do not want to be

at the receiving end of an Aghori's wrath! Then my Aghori told

me: " King Birendra is finished. And the whole dynasty. " I just

wonder what took so long. Aghoris are professionals in these sort of

things.

Incidentally, in earlier posts there were some comments about

Pratyangira Devi.Her Pujas and Homams are best performed at

AMAVASYA! She is often invoked to remove

the effects of sorcery, witchcraft, black magic and the

like.Although- I would like to point out- the worship and saddhanas

of Pratyangira Devi enables the sadhak to cut through all illusions,

the fruits of which can be gleaned in such works as the Ribhu Gita

or Avadhut Gita. About Pratyangira Devi- Ma willing- I shall write

again.

I trust that I have answered your question adequately.

With deep respect to all:

AJ

sohamsa , Lakshmi Kary <lakshmikary wrote:

>

> Hare Rama Krishna

> Dear AJ,

> Interesting post!.

> Can you please give more detail or give the info regarding this

statement.

> " The well known curse on the Hapsburg House, the royal family

of Austria/Hungary

> was " done " on Amavasya, "

> Thank-you

> Lakshmi

>

> Arpad Joo <panchasila wrote:

> -

> Hare Rama Krishna,

> Dear Sanjay

>

> There is a curious parallel in ancient greek mythology with

regards

> to Krishna paksha chaturdashi and Amavasya.

> On chaturdashi tithi (Krishna paksha) Goddess Persephone, the

> beautiful and chaste/innocent daughter was abducted forcibly by

> Hades (alias Pluto- NOT the planet) who is the Ruler of the

> Underworld ( a sort of Lunar figure)and on Amavasya she was raped.

> Unfortunately there was no way back for her (in the greek

> tradition),though she was allowed to return once a year.(Ancient

> Greeks celebrated the return of Persephone every year with great

> festivals). While the abduction and rape went on, the Goddess

> Hecate, whose image is a widow, an old crone, (a sort of Devi of

> witchcraft,occult arts and incantations) looked on and witnessed

the

> whole thing.(She is a lunar Goddess)

> The symbolism is clear enough.

> For the last several thousand years in Europe (yes Europe),black

> magicians, witches performed their curses during chaturdashi and

> Amavasya.Some of them were quite accomplished in these " black

arts " ,

> if the annals of history is to be believed. Even today Italian

> witches celebrate " Hecate's " moon on these days. The well known

> curse on the Hapsburg House, the royal family of Austria/Hungary

> was " done " on Amavasya, and if ever a curse " worked " surely this

> was it. Among the effects: the Crown Prince (Rudolph)commited

> suicide together with his girlfriend,the Empress was assassinated

by

> an Italian anarchist in Geneva,the Royal couple's daughter died of

> fever,another cousin Maximilian was executed in Mexico, a sister

of

> the Emperor ended her life in the insane asylum and finally the

new

> Crown Prince of the Empire,(nephew of the Emperor),Franz Ferdinand

> was asassinated together with his wife in Sarajevo, Bosnia.(1914)

> (starting the first world war, incidentally).The Empire was

> finished.The Republic of Austria was created and the Hapsburg

> dynasty was exiled from their native land. The curse was fulfilled

> to the hilt.

>

> With deep respect to all

>

> A.J.

>

> -- In sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vinayak

> >

> > The anger of Shiva was due to the Moon God cheating a Guru. Lord

> Shiva is

> > sworn to protect all Gurus of every parampara/tradition as He is

> the

> > embodiment of all knowledge. Chandra came to Brihaspati on

KRISHNA

> > CHATURDASI and then ran away with Guru's wife Tara. So Lord

Shiva

> lays curse

> > ON THIS TITHI only.

> >

> > The on AMAVASYA Tara was raped by Chandra ...So KALI MATA lays

> curse on this

> > tithi and says that women born in this tithi suffer rape and

loss

> of purity

> > and burn inside just as Tara did.

> >

> > ON PRATIPADA Chandra realised his mistake and returned Tara to

> Brihaspati,

> > so this is the Tithi for forgiveness and Agni/Gayatri mantra has

> the power

> > to remove all curses and bring forgiveness. Use Tulsi mala for

> Gayatri

> > mantra to get good results while red coral mala is the best as

> Tulsi has

> > Agni in it. Agni is Brahmana Guru

> >

> > That should clarify

> >

> > No curse on Tithi in sukla paksha

> >

> > Best Regards

> >

> > Sanjay Rath

> >

> > sohamsa [sohamsa ]

On

> Behalf Of

> > vinayak tandle

> > 11 October 2008 21:54

> > sohamsa

> > RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA

> CHATURDASI BIRTH &

> > LINGA PRADIKSHINA

> >

> > Adarniya Pt Sanjay Rath Guruji Namaste,

> >

> > Could you please shed light on whether the Anger of Shiva is

there

> > irrespective of Paksha or it is there only for krishna paksha

> chaturdasi

> > birth.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Vinayak P Tandle

> >

> > --- On Sat, 10/11/08, Sanjay Rath <sjrath@> wrote:

> >

> > Sanjay Rath <sjrath@>

> > RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH &

LINGA

> > PRADIKSHINA

> > sohamsa

> > Saturday, October 11, 2008, 9:44 PM

> >

> > Dear Rashmi

> >

> > Use a diamond (saptarishi nadi) ..it will improve your finances

> considerably

> >

> > Sanjay

> >

> > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@ .

com]

> On Behalf

> > Of rashmi patel

> > 10 October 2008 09:49

> > sohamsa@ .com

> > Cc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au

> > Fw: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH &

LINGA

> > PRADIKSHINA

> >

> > ----- Forwarded Message ----

> > rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >

> > sohamsa@ .com

> > Cc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au

> > Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:44:36 PM

> > Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH &

LINGA

> > PRADIKSHINA

> >

> > Respected Karuji,

> >

> > Actually I am so sorry to tell you that I am born on sukal paksh

> charurdasi

> > [chaudas] a day before purnima or full moon day so please excuse

> me I

> > accidently put chaturthi its wrong sorry.

> >

> > I was curious in other conversation going on for krishna paksha

so

> I ask on

> > my shukla paksha effects for chaudas born, but intresting thing

is

> you had

> > answered my question for chaturthi & the explanation of 6th

house

> & ketu &

> > mercury conjuction, well I have similar conjuction let me tell

you

> my

> > kundali so you will understand it exactly

> >

> > my details DATE=12/may/ 57 TIME 04;25 AM PLACE=ADEN [yemen]

> >

> > Mesh lagna & in Mesh=sun,mercury, ketu,Vrishabh= venus,Gemini=

> mars,leo=

> > jupiter,Tula= moon,rahu, Scorpio=saturn

> >

> > so see here I have mercury,ketu conjuction is this bad??so tell

me

> what you

> > think on my kundali any sugestions?

> >

> > Thank you so much

> >

> > rashmikant

> >

> > Karu Heenkenda <heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au>

> > sohamsa@ .com

> > Tuesday, October 7, 2008 10:05:49 PM

> > RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH &

LINGA

> > PRADIKSHINA

> >

> > Hare Rama Krshna

> >

> > Dear Rashmi,

> >

> > Buddhi (Budda) is illegitimate son of Supreme intelligence

(Guru)

> and the

> > day it cause was Krishna Chaturdasi (Fully Dark). Moon also

> cursed by

> > Ganesha on chaturti and from that date, Moon fluctuates.

> >

> > The fact is, We all are like Buda, as long as we are learning.

> That means we

> > all have curse of Guru as well as Ganesha. That is why we are

> separated from

> > supreme intelligence.

> >

> > When we want to learn, we must have blessing of Upachaya lords as

> > development of DHI comes from Upachaya, 3rd or 6th house. Now

see

> from

> > karaka Mercury. From Gemini 6th house ruled by Ketu, and form

> Virgo 3rd

> > house ruled by Ketu. If Ketu conjoined Mercury, what development

> we can

> > expect ? Ganesh simply destroying Mercury, that s all.

> >

> > So, make it positive, we need to worship Ganesh in the first

place

> as he

> > alone has the key for door. Then, If we want to find the father,

> we must

> > worship Guru in the form of Shiva, regardless the titi or day we

> born. He is

> > so kind and one day will keep you on his head, where all streams

of

> > knowledge starts.

> >

> > So don't create barriers yourself. Worshiping Ganesh and Shiva

is

> so

> > important. Otherwise we will continue to be same and will be

> separated for

> > ever.

> >

> > Best Wishes

> >

> > Karu

> >

> > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@ .

com]

> On Behalf

> > Of rashmi patel

> > Monday, 22 September 2008 11:09 AM

> > sohamsa@ .com

> > Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH &

LINGA

> > PRADIKSHINA

> >

> > Dear Gurujano,

> >

> > Please give me more guidence on this chathurdasi birth I am

sukla

> paksh

> > chathurthi birth ok

> >

> > please let me know too ok

> >

> > thanks

> >

> > rashmi

> >

> > vinayak tandle <vinayakmechie@

<http:///>

> >

> > sohamsa@ .com

> > Sunday, September 21, 2008 11:55:36 AM

> > RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH &

LINGA

> > PRADIKSHINA

> >

> > Adarniya Guruji Namaskar,

> >

> > Its a great pleasure to get a reply from you. Guruji you have

> mentioned that

> > the Krishna Chaturdasi birth has the anger of shiva. Whether for

> Sukla

> > Chaturdasi too there is Anger of Shiva.My birth is in Sukla

> chaturdasi.

> > Vistiji mentions that the Anger of lord shiva is there

> irrespective of

> > PAksh, Please clarify. If you could please analyse my chart for

> the same

> > whether I have cheated guru in my past birth & remedies.

> >

> > DOB: 17 April 1981

> >

> > TOB: 14:10 PM

> >

> > POB: Belgaum, Karnatak India.

> >

> > Life Event: Death of Father on 4 Feb 1996

> >

> > Joined the JOB on: 30 Dec 2004

> >

> > Eagerly waiting for your blessings

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > --- On Sun, 9/21/08, Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com>

> wrote:

> >

> > Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com>

> > RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH &

LINGA

> > PRADIKSHINA

> > sohamsa@ .com

> > Sunday, September 21, 2008, 2:47 PM

> >

> > om gurave namah

> >

> > Dear Vinayaka

> >

> > Technically this tithi is ruled by Venus and Chandra loses his

> senses and

> > goes to the house of Guru Brihaspati as a false shishya on

Krishna

> > Chaturdasi and later abducts Tärä on Amavasya. This tithi

> symbolizes all the

> > cheating and falsity one does towards a guru – siksha or diksha

> guru and

> > this is normally indicated as the darker side of the Asura guru

> Shukra

> > (Venus).

> >

> > Lord Shiva is the protector of all the gurus and is the

Paramesthi

> guru

> > Himself ...see Shiva Puraana for details of panchashari dikshaa

> for more

> > details.

> >

> > Guru, praatpara guru, parama guru and parameshthi guru are the

> four levels.

> >

> > Chandra gets cursed by Lord Shiva due to this terrible sin of

> cheating the

> > Guru of all the devas and consequently this tithi carries the

sin

> showing

> > that one born on Krishna Chaturdashi has the sin of cheating a

> guru in a

> > past incarnation. So in this life they will naturally have to be

> very

> > careful and not repeat the same mistake. They should atone for

the

> sin and

> > the best remedy is the Shri Somanatha Puja as taught by Shri

> Krishna.

> >

> > Somanatha is the laaTa of Lord Shiva and the highest

jyotirlingam

> >

> > Full Shiva Lingam pradakshina is prohibited as one crosses the

> shakti line

> > (normally facing east or north) inside the temple, so this an be

> done

> > outside the temple.

> >

> > Recitation of 1 crore panchakshari mantra is a very good remedy.

I

> believe

> > in japa in Kali yuga

> >

> > With best wishes,

> >

> > Sanjay Rath

> >

> > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, Delhi, India 110060

> >

> > www.srath.com <http://www.srath.com/> , www.. org,

> www.sohamsa.

> > com

> >

> > vinayak tandle [vinayakmech ie ]

> > Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:56 AM

> > sohamsa@ .com; vedic astrology;

> >

> > ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

> >

> > Dear Gurujans

> >

> > Please elaborate why there is anger of shiva on Chaturdasi

birth.

> Shivlinga

> > Pradikshina to be done half or full & the reason if pradikshina

> has to be

> > done half.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Vinayak P Tandle

> >

>

October 15, 2008

Dear Rashmikant

Saptarishi nadi is the source of the recommendation for the

gemstone,

As big as the pocket can get is my advice for gemstones as these

things are too expensive....say 1 ct or even better 2 diamonds of 0.5 ct each

I already told that to you ...about effect

If you doubt, better drop the idea of wearing it then.

Read that Nadi to see the placement of Venus in 2H for mesha

lagna

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

sohamsa

[sohamsa ] On Behalf Of rashmi patel

12 October 2008 22:25

sohamsa

Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA CHATURDASI

BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

Namaskar Respected Guruji Sanjayji,

Thanks for guiding on oct/11/08 leting me know that I should wear

diamond that will improve my financial situations more it also says

in braket saparishi nadi which I didnt understand so please looking

my chart tell how big diamond i should wear & when is best time to

wear & which fingure also for some reason i wear yellow topaz for

guru but i wear on third fingure & not first infact i tried but i

automatically put back to third fingure & not first one so please

guide me on that what to do?

What good effect it will give me wearing diamond because i was told

by astrologer not to wear even though my venus is in his own house in

2nd house so please guide me what to do? my birth detail is DOB=

12/MAY/57 , TIME= 04;45AM, PLACE= ADEN [YEMEN]

Thanks you so much for guiding me & charan prush to you

RASHMIKANT

sohamsa ,

" Souvik Dutta " <explore_vulcan

wrote:

>

> Dear AJ,

>

> Thank you for sharing. I found this very interesting. You knowledge

in

> mythology and ancient history has to be applauded.

>

> Regards,

>

> Souvik

>

> sohamsa ,

" Arpad Joo " <panchasila@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > Dear Sanjay

> >

> > There is a curious parallel in ancient greek mythology with

regards

> > to Krishna paksha chaturdashi and Amavasya.

> > On chaturdashi tithi (Krishna paksha) Goddess Persephone, the

> > beautiful and chaste/innocent daughter was abducted forcibly by

> > Hades (alias Pluto- NOT the planet) who is the Ruler of the

> > Underworld ( a sort of Lunar figure)and on Amavasya she was

raped.

> > Unfortunately there was no way back for her (in the greek

> > tradition),though she was allowed to return once a year.(Ancient

> > Greeks celebrated the return of Persephone every year with great

> > festivals). While the abduction and rape went on, the Goddess

> > Hecate, whose image is a widow, an old crone, (a sort of Devi of

> > witchcraft,occult arts and incantations) looked on and witnessed

the

> > whole thing.(She is a lunar Goddess)

> > The symbolism is clear enough.

> > For the last several thousand years in Europe (yes Europe),black

> > magicians, witches performed their curses during chaturdashi and

> > Amavasya.Some of them were quite accomplished in these " black

arts " ,

> > if the annals of history is to be believed. Even today Italian

> > witches celebrate " Hecate's " moon on these days. The well

known

> > curse on the Hapsburg House, the royal family of Austria/Hungary

> > was " done " on Amavasya, and if ever a curse

" worked " surely this

> > was it. Among the effects: the Crown Prince (Rudolph)commited

> > suicide together with his girlfriend,the Empress was assassinated

by

> > an Italian anarchist in Geneva,the Royal couple's daughter died

of

> > fever,another cousin Maximilian was executed in Mexico, a sister

of

> > the Emperor ended her life in the insane asylum and finally the

new

> > Crown Prince of the Empire,(nephew of the Emperor),Franz

Ferdinand

> > was asassinated together with his wife in Sarajevo, Bosnia.(1914)

> > (starting the first world war, incidentally).The Empire was

> > finished.The Republic of Austria was created and the Hapsburg

> > dynasty was exiled from their native land. The curse was

fulfilled

> > to the hilt.

> >

> > With deep respect to all

> >

> > A.J.

> >

> > -- In sohamsa ,

" Sanjay Rath " <sjrath@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vinayak

> > >

> > > The anger of Shiva was due to the Moon God cheating a Guru.

Lord

> > Shiva is

> > > sworn to protect all Gurus of every parampara/tradition as He

is

> > the

> > > embodiment of all knowledge. Chandra came to Brihaspati on

KRISHNA

> > > CHATURDASI and then ran away with Guru's wife Tara. So Lord

Shiva

> > lays curse

> > > ON THIS TITHI only.

> > >

> > > The on AMAVASYA Tara was raped by Chandra ...So KALI MATA lays

> > curse on this

> > > tithi and says that women born in this tithi suffer rape and

loss

> > of purity

> > > and burn inside just as Tara did.

> > >

> > > ON PRATIPADA Chandra realised his mistake and returned Tara to

> > Brihaspati,

> > > so this is the Tithi for forgiveness and Agni/Gayatri mantra

has

> > the power

> > > to remove all curses and bring forgiveness. Use Tulsi mala for

> > Gayatri

> > > mantra to get good results while red coral mala is the best as

> > Tulsi has

> > > Agni in it. Agni is Brahmana Guru

> > >

> > > That should clarify

> > >

> > > No curse on Tithi in sukla paksha

> > >

> > > Best Regards

> > >

> > > Sanjay Rath

> > >

> > > sohamsa

[sohamsa ]

On

> > Behalf Of

> > > vinayak tandle

> > > 11 October 2008 21:54

> > > sohamsa

> > > RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA

> > CHATURDASI BIRTH &

> > > LINGA PRADIKSHINA

> > >

> > > Adarniya Pt Sanjay Rath Guruji Namaste,

> > >

> > > Could you please shed light on whether the Anger of Shiva is

there

> > > irrespective of Paksha or it is there only for krishna paksha

> > chaturdasi

> > > birth.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Vinayak P Tandle

> > >

> > > --- On Sat, 10/11/08, Sanjay Rath <sjrath@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sanjay Rath <sjrath@>

> > > RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH &

LINGA

> > > PRADIKSHINA

> > > sohamsa

> > > Saturday, October 11, 2008, 9:44 PM

> > >

> > > Dear Rashmi

> > >

> > > Use a diamond (saptarishi nadi) ..it will improve your finances

> > considerably

> > >

> > > Sanjay

> > >

> > > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@ .

com]

> > On Behalf

> > > Of rashmi patel

> > > 10 October 2008 09:49

> > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > Cc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au

> > > Fw: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH &

LINGA

> > > PRADIKSHINA

> > >

> > > ----- Forwarded Message ----

> > > rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >

> > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > Cc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au

> > > Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:44:36 PM

> > > Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH &

LINGA

> > > PRADIKSHINA

> > >

> > > Respected Karuji,

> > >

> > > Actually I am so sorry to tell you that I am born on sukal

paksh

> > charurdasi

> > > [chaudas] a day before purnima or full moon day so please

excuse

> > me I

> > > accidently put chaturthi its wrong sorry.

> > >

> > > I was curious in other conversation going on for krishna paksha

so

> > I ask on

> > > my shukla paksha effects for chaudas born, but intresting thing

is

> > you had

> > > answered my question for chaturthi & the explanation of 6th

house

> > & ketu &

> > > mercury conjuction, well I have similar conjuction let me tell

you

> > my

> > > kundali so you will understand it exactly

> > >

> > > my details DATE=12/may/ 57 TIME 04;25 AM PLACE=ADEN [yemen]

> > >

> > > Mesh lagna & in Mesh=sun,mercury, ketu,Vrishabh=

venus,Gemini=

> > mars,leo=

> > > jupiter,Tula= moon,rahu, Scorpio=saturn

> > >

> > > so see here I have mercury,ketu conjuction is this bad??so tell

me

> > what you

> > > think on my kundali any sugestions?

> > >

> > > Thank you so much

> > >

> > > rashmikant

> > >

> > > Karu Heenkenda <heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au>

> > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > Tuesday, October 7, 2008 10:05:49 PM

> > > RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH &

LINGA

> > > PRADIKSHINA

> > >

> > > Hare Rama Krshna

> > >

> > > Dear Rashmi,

> > >

> > > Buddhi (Budda) is illegitimate son of Supreme intelligence

(Guru)

> > and the

> > > day it cause was Krishna Chaturdasi (Fully Dark). Moon also

> > cursed by

> > > Ganesha on chaturti and from that date, Moon fluctuates.

> > >

> > > The fact is, We all are like Buda, as long as we are learning.

> > That means we

> > > all have curse of Guru as well as Ganesha. That is why we are

> > separated from

> > > supreme intelligence.

> > >

> > > When we want to learn, we must have blessing of Upachaya lords

as

> > > development of DHI comes from Upachaya, 3rd or 6th house. Now

see

> > from

> > > karaka Mercury. From Gemini 6th house ruled by Ketu, and form

> > Virgo 3rd

> > > house ruled by Ketu. If Ketu conjoined Mercury, what

development

> > we can

> > > expect ? Ganesh simply destroying Mercury, that s all.

> > >

> > > So, make it positive, we need to worship Ganesh in the first

place

> > as he

> > > alone has the key for door. Then, If we want to find the

father,

> > we must

> > > worship Guru in the form of Shiva, regardless the titi or day

we

> > born. He is

> > > so kind and one day will keep you on his head, where all

streams of

> > > knowledge starts.

> > >

> > > So don't create barriers yourself. Worshiping Ganesh and Shiva

is

> > so

> > > important. Otherwise we will continue to be same and will be

> > separated for

> > > ever.

> > >

> > > Best Wishes

> > >

> > > Karu

> > >

> > > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@ .

com]

> > On Behalf

> > > Of rashmi patel

> > > Monday, 22 September 2008 11:09 AM

> > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH &

LINGA

> > > PRADIKSHINA

> > >

> > > Dear Gurujano,

> > >

> > > Please give me more guidence on this chathurdasi birth I am

sukla

> > paksh

> > > chathurthi birth ok

> > >

> > > please let me know too ok

> > >

> > > thanks

> > >

> > > rashmi

> > >

> > > vinayak tandle <vinayakmechie@

<http:///>

> > >

> > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > Sunday, September 21, 2008 11:55:36 AM

> > > RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH &

LINGA

> > > PRADIKSHINA

> > >

> > > Adarniya Guruji Namaskar,

> > >

> > > Its a great pleasure to get a reply from you. Guruji you have

> > mentioned that

> > > the Krishna Chaturdasi birth has the anger of shiva. Whether

for

> > Sukla

> > > Chaturdasi too there is Anger of Shiva.My birth is in Sukla

> > chaturdasi.

> > > Vistiji mentions that the Anger of lord shiva is there

> > irrespective of

> > > PAksh, Please clarify. If you could please analyse my chart for

> > the same

> > > whether I have cheated guru in my past birth & remedies.

> > >

> > > DOB: 17 April 1981

> > >

> > > TOB: 14:10 PM

> > >

> > > POB: Belgaum, Karnatak India.

> > >

> > > Life Event: Death of Father on 4 Feb 1996

> > >

> > > Joined the JOB on: 30 Dec 2004

> > >

> > > Eagerly waiting for your blessings

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > --- On Sun, 9/21/08, Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT)

com>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com>

> > > RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH &

LINGA

> > > PRADIKSHINA

> > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > Sunday, September 21, 2008, 2:47 PM

> > >

> > > om gurave namah

> > >

> > > Dear Vinayaka

> > >

> > > Technically this tithi is ruled by Venus and Chandra loses his

> > senses and

> > > goes to the house of Guru Brihaspati as a false shishya on

Krishna

> > > Chaturdasi and later abducts Tärä on Amavasya. This tithi

> > symbolizes all the

> > > cheating and falsity one does towards a guru – siksha or diksha

> > guru and

> > > this is normally indicated as the darker side of the Asura guru

> > Shukra

> > > (Venus).

> > >

> > > Lord Shiva is the protector of all the gurus and is the

Paramesthi

> > guru

> > > Himself ...see Shiva Puraana for details of panchashari dikshaa

> > for more

> > > details.

> > >

> > > Guru, praatpara guru, parama guru and parameshthi guru are the

> > four levels.

> > >

> > > Chandra gets cursed by Lord Shiva due to this terrible sin of

> > cheating the

> > > Guru of all the devas and consequently this tithi carries the

sin

> > showing

> > > that one born on Krishna Chaturdashi has the sin of cheating a

> > guru in a

> > > past incarnation. So in this life they will naturally have to

be

> > very

> > > careful and not repeat the same mistake. They should atone for

the

> > sin and

> > > the best remedy is the Shri Somanatha Puja as taught by Shri

> > Krishna.

> > >

> > > Somanatha is the laaTa of Lord Shiva and the highest

jyotirlingam

> > >

> > > Full Shiva Lingam pradakshina is prohibited as one crosses the

> > shakti line

> > > (normally facing east or north) inside the temple, so this an

be

> > done

> > > outside the temple.

> > >

> > > Recitation of 1 crore panchakshari mantra is a very good

remedy. I

> > believe

> > > in japa in Kali yuga

> > >

> > > With best wishes,

> > >

> > > Sanjay Rath

> > >

> > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, Delhi, India 110060

> > >

> > > www.srath.com <http://www.srath.com/>

, www.. org,

> > www.sohamsa.

> > > com

> > >

> > > vinayak tandle [vinayakmech ie ]

> > > Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:56 AM

> > > sohamsa@ .com; vedic astrology;

> > >

> > > ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH &

LINGA

> > PRADIKSHINA

> > >

> > > Dear Gurujans

> > >

> > > Please elaborate why there is anger of shiva on Chaturdasi

birth.

> > Shivlinga

> > > Pradikshina to be done half or full & the reason if

pradikshina

> > has to be

> > > done half.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Vinayak P Tandle

> > >

> >

>

October 17, 2008

Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Guruji,

You wrote

" Imagine if such a chaturdashi tithi birth also has Moon in 7th house in navamsha!! Then very serious remedy is required"

This is a chart of a very dear one which has the same combination. What is the remedy? Please advice.... she suffers a lot!

With pranams

Sincerely

Dilip.

-

Sanjay Rath

sohamsa

Saturday, October 11, 2008 11:22 PM

RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

Dear Vinayak

There is no contradiction for Moon being both male and female ... both male (Sri Rama) and female are born in Karkata lagna lorded by the Moon. So the graha does not show male and female as *male sex and female sex*

It is an important lesson to learn about Moon and its natural ability to *impregnate all women* in every species. That is its power as *SOMA*.

Imagine if such a chaturdashi tithi birth also has Moon in 7th house in navamsha!! Then very serious remedy is required

Best wishes

Sanjay

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of vinayak tandle11 October 2008 22:43sohamsa Subject: RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

Adarniya Pt Sanjay Rath Guruji Namaste,

Thank you very much for clarifying. In the planetary system moon is regarded the queen, but here moon is male, could you please clarify why there is contradiction for moon being female/male.

Regards

Vinayak P Tandle --- On Sat, 10/11/08, Sanjay Rath <sjrath (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Sanjay Rath <sjrath (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINAsohamsa Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 10:19 PM

Dear Vinayak

The anger of Shiva was due to the Moon God cheating a Guru. Lord Shiva is sworn to protect all Gurus of every parampara/tradition as He is the embodiment of all knowledge. Chandra came to Brihaspati on KRISHNA CHATURDASI and then ran away with Guru’s wife Tara. So Lord Shiva lays curse ON THIS TITHI only.

The on AMAVASYA Tara was raped by Chandra ...So KALI MATA lays curse on this tithi and says that women born in this tithi suffer rape and loss of purity and burn inside just as Tara did.

ON PRATIPADA Chandra realised his mistake and returned Tara to Brihaspati, so this is the Tithi for forgiveness and Agni/Gayatri mantra has the power to remove all curses and bring forgiveness. Use Tulsi mala for Gayatri mantra to get good results while red coral mala is the best as Tulsi has Agni in it. Agni is Brahmana Guru

That should clarify

No curse on Tithi in sukla paksha

Best Regards

Sanjay Rath

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On Behalf Of vinayak tandle11 October 2008 21:54sohamsa@ .comRE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

Adarniya Pt Sanjay Rath Guruji Namaste,

Could you please shed light on whether the Anger of Shiva is there irrespective of Paksha or it is there only for krishna paksha chaturdasi birth.

Regards

Vinayak P Tandle

--- On Sat, 10/11/08, Sanjay Rath <sjrath (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Sanjay Rath <sjrath (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINAsohamsa@ .comSaturday, October 11, 2008, 9:44 PM

Dear Rashmi

Use a diamond (saptarishi nadi) ..it will improve your finances considerably

Sanjay

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On Behalf Of rashmi patel10 October 2008 09:49sohamsa@ .comCc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.auFw: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

----- Forwarded Message ----rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >sohamsa@ .comCc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.auWednesday, October 8, 2008 11:44:36 PMRe: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

Respected Karuji,

Actually I am so sorry to tell you that I am born on sukal paksh charurdasi [chaudas] a day before purnima or full moon day so please excuse me I accidently put chaturthi its wrong sorry.

I was curious in other conversation going on for krishna paksha so I ask on my shukla paksha effects for chaudas born, but intresting thing is you had answered my question for chaturthi & the explanation of 6th house & ketu & mercury conjuction, well I have similar conjuction let me tell you my kundali so you will understand it exactly

my details DATE=12/may/ 57 TIME 04;25 AM PLACE=ADEN [yemen]

Mesh lagna & in Mesh=sun,mercury, ketu,Vrishabh= venus,Gemini= mars,leo= jupiter,Tula= moon,rahu, Scorpio=saturn

so see here I have mercury,ketu conjuction is this bad??so tell me what you think on my kundali any sugestions?

Thank you so much

rashmikant

Karu Heenkenda <heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au>sohamsa@ .comTuesday, October 7, 2008 10:05:49 PMRE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

Hare Rama Krshna

Dear Rashmi,

Buddhi (Budda) is illegitimate son of Supreme intelligence (Guru) and the day it cause was Krishna Chaturdasi (Fully Dark). Moon also cursed by Ganesha on chaturti and from that date, Moon fluctuates.

The fact is, We all are like Buda, as long as we are learning. That means we all have curse of Guru as well as Ganesha. That is why we are separated from supreme intelligence.

When we want to learn, we must have blessing of Upachaya lords as development of DHI comes from Upachaya, 3rd or 6th house. Now see from karaka Mercury. From Gemini 6th house ruled by Ketu, and form Virgo 3rd house ruled by Ketu. If Ketu conjoined Mercury, what development we can expect ? Ganesh simply destroying Mercury, that s all.

So, make it positive, we need to worship Ganesh in the first place as he alone has the key for door. Then, If we want to find the father, we must worship Guru in the form of Shiva, regardless the titi or day we born. He is so kind and one day will keep you on his head, where all streams of knowledge starts.

So don’t create barriers yourself. Worshiping Ganesh and Shiva is so important. Otherwise we will continue to be same and will be separated for ever.

Best Wishes

Karu

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On Behalf Of rashmi patelMonday, 22 September 2008 11:09 AMsohamsa@ .comRe: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

Dear Gurujano,

Please give me more guidence on this chathurdasi birth I am sukla paksh chathurthi birth ok

please let me know too ok

thanks

rashmi

vinayak tandle <vinayakmechie@ >sohamsa@ .comSunday, September 21, 2008 11:55:36 AMRE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

Adarniya Guruji Namaskar,

Its a great pleasure to get a reply from you. Guruji you have mentioned that the Krishna Chaturdasi birth has the anger of shiva. Whether for Sukla Chaturdasi too there is Anger of Shiva.My birth is in Sukla chaturdasi. Vistiji mentions that the Anger of lord shiva is there irrespective of PAksh, Please clarify. If you could please analyse my chart for the same whether I have cheated guru in my past birth & remedies.

DOB: 17 April 1981

TOB: 14:10 PM

POB: Belgaum, Karnatak India.

Life Event: Death of Father on 4 Feb 1996

Joined the JOB on: 30 Dec 2004

Eagerly waiting for your blessings

Regards--- On Sun, 9/21/08, Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com> wrote:

Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com>RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINAsohamsa@ .comSunday, September 21, 2008, 2:47 PM

om gurave namah

Dear Vinayaka

Technically this tithi is ruled by Venus and Chandra loses his senses and goes to the house of Guru Brihaspati as a false shishya on Krishna Chaturdasi and later abducts Tärä on Amavasya. This tithi symbolizes all the cheating and falsity one does towards a guru – siksha or diksha guru and this is normally indicated as the darker side of the Asura guru Shukra (Venus).

Lord Shiva is the protector of all the gurus and is the Paramesthi guru Himself ...see Shiva Puraana for details of panchashari dikshaa for more details.

Guru, praatpara guru, parama guru and parameshthi guru are the four levels.

Chandra gets cursed by Lord Shiva due to this terrible sin of cheating the Guru of all the devas and consequently this tithi carries the sin showing that one born on Krishna Chaturdashi has the sin of cheating a guru in a past incarnation. So in this life they will naturally have to be very careful and not repeat the same mistake. They should atone for the sin and the best remedy is the Shri Somanatha Puja as taught by Shri Krishna.

Somanatha is the laaTa of Lord Shiva and the highest jyotirlingam

Full Shiva Lingam pradakshina is prohibited as one crosses the shakti line (normally facing east or north) inside the temple, so this an be done outside the temple.

Recitation of 1 crore panchakshari mantra is a very good remedy. I believe in japa in Kali yuga

With best wishes,

Sanjay Rath

15B Gangaram Hospital Road, Delhi, India 110060

www.srath.com, www.. org, www.sohamsa. com

vinayak tandle [vinayakmech ie ] Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:56 AMsohamsa@ .com; vedic astrology; ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

Dear Gurujans

Please elaborate why there is anger of shiva on Chaturdasi birth. Shivlinga Pradikshina to be done half or full & the reason if pradikshina has to be done half.

Regards

Vinayak P Tandle

October 19, 2008

Dear Arpad

Namaste. That is a fantastic cross-cultural study. I know of

someone who is studying this in Europe today and is quite amazed at the amount

of all this that happens in England and all over western Europe. I was very

spectical when I heard that for the first time. But now, this coming from you

and some recent statements from others proves the going ons in Europe in the

quietness and background can be very secretive and dark.

Rasputin was also such a practitioner.

Any links or historical notes would be most interesting to

follow. If you have published any papers on this subject I would be most

delighted to read.

Thank you, again

Sincerely

Sanjay Rath

sohamsa

[sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Arpad Joo

12 October 2008 11:27

sohamsa

Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA CHATURDASI

BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

-

Hare Rama Krishna,

Dear Sanjay

There is a curious parallel in ancient greek mythology with regards

to Krishna paksha chaturdashi and Amavasya.

On chaturdashi tithi (Krishna paksha) Goddess Persephone, the

beautiful and chaste/innocent daughter was abducted forcibly by

Hades (alias Pluto- NOT the planet) who is the Ruler of the

Underworld ( a sort of Lunar figure)and on Amavasya she was raped.

Unfortunately there was no way back for her (in the greek

tradition),though she was allowed to return once a year.(Ancient

Greeks celebrated the return of Persephone every year with great

festivals). While the abduction and rape went on, the Goddess

Hecate, whose image is a widow, an old crone, (a sort of Devi of

witchcraft,occult arts and incantations) looked on and witnessed the

whole thing.(She is a lunar Goddess)

The symbolism is clear enough.

For the last several thousand years in Europe (yes Europe),black

magicians, witches performed their curses during chaturdashi and

Amavasya.Some of them were quite accomplished in these " black arts " ,

if the annals of history is to be believed. Even today Italian

witches celebrate " Hecate's " moon on these days. The well known

curse on the Hapsburg House, the royal family of Austria/Hungary

was " done " on Amavasya, and if ever a curse " worked " surely

this

was it. Among the effects: the Crown Prince (Rudolph)commited

suicide together with his girlfriend,the Empress was assassinated by

an Italian anarchist in Geneva,the Royal couple's daughter died of

fever,another cousin Maximilian was executed in Mexico, a sister of

the Emperor ended her life in the insane asylum and finally the new

Crown Prince of the Empire,(nephew of the Emperor),Franz Ferdinand

was asassinated together with his wife in Sarajevo, Bosnia.(1914)

(starting the first world war, incidentally).The Empire was

finished.The Republic of Austria was created and the Hapsburg

dynasty was exiled from their native land. The curse was fulfilled

to the hilt.

With deep respect to all

A.J.

-- In sohamsa ,

" Sanjay Rath " <sjrath wrote:

>

> Dear Vinayak

>

> The anger of Shiva was due to the Moon God cheating a Guru. Lord

Shiva is

> sworn to protect all Gurus of every parampara/tradition as He is

the

> embodiment of all knowledge. Chandra came to Brihaspati on KRISHNA

> CHATURDASI and then ran away with Guru's wife Tara. So Lord Shiva

lays curse

> ON THIS TITHI only.

>

> The on AMAVASYA Tara was raped by Chandra ...So KALI MATA lays

curse on this

> tithi and says that women born in this tithi suffer rape and loss

of purity

> and burn inside just as Tara did.

>

> ON PRATIPADA Chandra realised his mistake and returned Tara to

Brihaspati,

> so this is the Tithi for forgiveness and Agni/Gayatri mantra has

the power

> to remove all curses and bring forgiveness. Use Tulsi mala for

Gayatri

> mantra to get good results while red coral mala is the best as

Tulsi has

> Agni in it. Agni is Brahmana Guru

>

> That should clarify

>

> No curse on Tithi in sukla paksha

>

> Best Regards

>

> Sanjay Rath

>

> sohamsa

[sohamsa ]

On

Behalf Of

> vinayak tandle

> 11 October 2008 21:54

> sohamsa

> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA

CHATURDASI BIRTH &

> LINGA PRADIKSHINA

>

> Adarniya Pt Sanjay Rath Guruji Namaste,

>

> Could you please shed light on whether the Anger of Shiva is there

> irrespective of Paksha or it is there only for krishna paksha

chaturdasi

> birth.

>

> Regards

>

> Vinayak P Tandle

>

> --- On Sat, 10/11/08, Sanjay Rath <sjrath wrote:

>

> Sanjay Rath <sjrath

> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

> sohamsa

> Saturday, October 11, 2008, 9:44 PM

>

> Dear Rashmi

>

> Use a diamond (saptarishi nadi) ..it will improve your finances

considerably

>

> Sanjay

>

> sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]

On Behalf

> Of rashmi patel

> 10 October 2008 09:49

> sohamsa@ .com

> Cc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au

> Fw: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

>

> ----- Forwarded Message ----

> rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >

> sohamsa@ .com

> Cc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au

> Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:44:36 PM

> Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

>

> Respected Karuji,

>

> Actually I am so sorry to tell you that I am born on sukal paksh

charurdasi

> [chaudas] a day before purnima or full moon day so please excuse

me I

> accidently put chaturthi its wrong sorry.

>

> I was curious in other conversation going on for krishna paksha so

I ask on

> my shukla paksha effects for chaudas born, but intresting thing is

you had

> answered my question for chaturthi & the explanation of 6th house

& ketu &

> mercury conjuction, well I have similar conjuction let me tell you

my

> kundali so you will understand it exactly

>

> my details DATE=12/may/ 57 TIME 04;25 AM PLACE=ADEN [yemen]

>

> Mesh lagna & in Mesh=sun,mercury, ketu,Vrishabh= venus,Gemini=

mars,leo=

> jupiter,Tula= moon,rahu, Scorpio=saturn

>

> so see here I have mercury,ketu conjuction is this bad??so tell me

what you

> think on my kundali any sugestions?

>

> Thank you so much

>

> rashmikant

>

> Karu Heenkenda <heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au>

> sohamsa@ .com

> Tuesday, October 7, 2008 10:05:49 PM

> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

>

> Hare Rama Krshna

>

> Dear Rashmi,

>

> Buddhi (Budda) is illegitimate son of Supreme intelligence (Guru)

and the

> day it cause was Krishna Chaturdasi (Fully Dark). Moon also

cursed by

> Ganesha on chaturti and from that date, Moon fluctuates.

>

> The fact is, We all are like Buda, as long as we are learning.

That means we

> all have curse of Guru as well as Ganesha. That is why we are

separated from

> supreme intelligence.

>

> When we want to learn, we must have blessing of Upachaya lords as

> development of DHI comes from Upachaya, 3rd or 6th house. Now see

from

> karaka Mercury. From Gemini 6th house ruled by Ketu, and form

Virgo 3rd

> house ruled by Ketu. If Ketu conjoined Mercury, what development

we can

> expect ? Ganesh simply destroying Mercury, that s all.

>

> So, make it positive, we need to worship Ganesh in the first place

as he

> alone has the key for door. Then, If we want to find the father,

we must

> worship Guru in the form of Shiva, regardless the titi or day we

born. He is

> so kind and one day will keep you on his head, where all streams of

> knowledge starts.

>

> So don't create barriers yourself. Worshiping Ganesh and Shiva is

so

> important. Otherwise we will continue to be same and will be

separated for

> ever.

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Karu

>

> sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]

On Behalf

> Of rashmi patel

> Monday, 22 September 2008 11:09 AM

> sohamsa@ .com

> Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

>

> Dear Gurujano,

>

> Please give me more guidence on this chathurdasi birth I am sukla

paksh

> chathurthi birth ok

>

> please let me know too ok

>

> thanks

>

> rashmi

>

> vinayak tandle <vinayakmechie@ <http:///>

>

> sohamsa@ .com

> Sunday, September 21, 2008 11:55:36 AM

> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

>

> Adarniya Guruji Namaskar,

>

> Its a great pleasure to get a reply from you. Guruji you have

mentioned that

> the Krishna Chaturdasi birth has the anger of shiva. Whether for

Sukla

> Chaturdasi too there is Anger of Shiva.My birth is in Sukla

chaturdasi.

> Vistiji mentions that the Anger of lord shiva is there

irrespective of

> PAksh, Please clarify. If you could please analyse my chart for

the same

> whether I have cheated guru in my past birth & remedies.

>

> DOB: 17 April 1981

>

> TOB: 14:10 PM

>

> POB: Belgaum, Karnatak India.

>

> Life Event: Death of Father on 4 Feb 1996

>

> Joined the JOB on: 30 Dec 2004

>

> Eagerly waiting for your blessings

>

> Regards

>

> --- On Sun, 9/21/08, Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com>

wrote:

>

> Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com>

> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

> sohamsa@ .com

> Sunday, September 21, 2008, 2:47 PM

>

> om gurave namah

>

> Dear Vinayaka

>

> Technically this tithi is ruled by Venus and Chandra loses his

senses and

> goes to the house of Guru Brihaspati as a false shishya on Krishna

> Chaturdasi and later abducts Tärä on Amavasya. This tithi

symbolizes all the

> cheating and falsity one does towards a guru – siksha or diksha

guru and

> this is normally indicated as the darker side of the Asura guru

Shukra

> (Venus).

>

> Lord Shiva is the protector of all the gurus and is the Paramesthi

guru

> Himself ...see Shiva Puraana for details of panchashari dikshaa

for more

> details.

>

> Guru, praatpara guru, parama guru and parameshthi guru are the

four levels.

>

> Chandra gets cursed by Lord Shiva due to this terrible sin of

cheating the

> Guru of all the devas and consequently this tithi carries the sin

showing

> that one born on Krishna Chaturdashi has the sin of cheating a

guru in a

> past incarnation. So in this life they will naturally have to be

very

> careful and not repeat the same mistake. They should atone for the

sin and

> the best remedy is the Shri Somanatha Puja as taught by Shri

Krishna.

>

> Somanatha is the laaTa of Lord Shiva and the highest jyotirlingam

>

> Full Shiva Lingam pradakshina is prohibited as one crosses the

shakti line

> (normally facing east or north) inside the temple, so this an be

done

> outside the temple.

>

> Recitation of 1 crore panchakshari mantra is a very good remedy. I

believe

> in japa in Kali yuga

>

> With best wishes,

>

> Sanjay Rath

>

> 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, Delhi, India 110060

>

> www.srath.com <http://www.srath.com/>

, www.. org,

www.sohamsa.

> com

>

> vinayak tandle [vinayakmech ie ]

> Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:56 AM

> sohamsa@ .com; vedic astrology;

>

> ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

PRADIKSHINA

>

> Dear Gurujans

>

> Please elaborate why there is anger of shiva on Chaturdasi birth.

Shivlinga

> Pradikshina to be done half or full & the reason if pradikshina

has to be

> done half.

>

> Regards

>

> Vinayak P Tandle

>

October 22, 2008

JAI MAASanjay GurujiPranamSir i come across a chart his name is sumit & his dob is 22/07/1979 tob 14:47, Ludhiana (Pb). sir he is in great financial problems these days. i apply dwisaptati sama dasa in his chart & find its starts in 16-12-1999. in 2000 he find worm in his brain. he take medicine for it for about 5 years. is it all due to chaturdasi birth or curse on Guru. will you plz some remedies for this guy.thanks--- On Sun, 19/10/08, Sanjay Rath <sjrath wrote:Sanjay Rath <sjrathRE: Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINAsohamsa Date: Sunday, 19 October, 2008,

3:54 PM

Dear Arpad Namaste. That is a fantastic cross-cultural study. I know of

someone who is studying this in Europe today and is quite amazed at the amount

of all this that happens in England and all over western Europe. I was very

spectical when I heard that for the first time. But now, this coming from you

and some recent statements from others proves the going ons in Europe in the

quietness and background can be very secretive and dark. Rasputin was also such a practitioner. Any links or historical notes would be most interesting to

follow. If you have published any papers on this subject I would be most

delighted to read. Thank you, again Sincerely Sanjay Rath

sohamsa@ .com

[sohamsa] On Behalf Of Arpad Joo

12 October 2008 11:27

sohamsa@ .com

Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA CHATURDASI

BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

-

Hare Rama Krishna,

Dear Sanjay

There is a curious parallel in ancient greek mythology with regards

to Krishna paksha chaturdashi and Amavasya.

On chaturdashi tithi (Krishna paksha) Goddess Persephone, the

beautiful and chaste/innocent daughter was abducted forcibly by

Hades (alias Pluto- NOT the planet) who is the Ruler of the

Underworld ( a sort of Lunar figure)and on Amavasya she was raped.

Unfortunately there was no way back for her (in the greek

tradition),though she was allowed to return once a year.(Ancient

Greeks celebrated the return of Persephone every year with great

festivals). While the abduction and rape went on, the Goddess

Hecate, whose image is a widow, an old crone, (a sort of Devi of

witchcraft,occult arts and incantations) looked on and witnessed the

whole thing.(She is a lunar Goddess)

The symbolism is clear enough.

For the last several thousand years in Europe (yes Europe),black

magicians, witches performed their curses during chaturdashi and

Amavasya.Some of them were quite accomplished in these "black arts",

if the annals of history is to be believed. Even today Italian

witches celebrate "Hecate's" moon on these days. The well known

curse on the Hapsburg House, the royal family of Austria/Hungary

was "done" on Amavasya, and if ever a curse "worked" surely

this

was it. Among the effects: the Crown Prince (Rudolph)commited

suicide together with his girlfriend,the Empress was assassinated by

an Italian anarchist in Geneva,the Royal couple's daughter died of

fever,another cousin Maximilian was executed in Mexico, a sister of

the Emperor ended her life in the insane asylum and finally the new

Crown Prince of the Empire,(nephew of the Emperor),Franz Ferdinand

was asassinated together with his wife in Sarajevo, Bosnia.(1914)

(starting the first world war, incidentally) .The Empire was

finished.The Republic of Austria was created and the Hapsburg

dynasty was exiled from their native land. The curse was fulfilled

to the hilt.

With deep respect to all

A.J.

-- In sohamsa@ .com,

"Sanjay Rath" <sjrath wrote:

>

> Dear Vinayak

>

> The anger of Shiva was due to the Moon God cheating a Guru. Lord

Shiva is

> sworn to protect all Gurus of every parampara/tradition as He is

the

> embodiment of all knowledge. Chandra came to Brihaspati on KRISHNA

> CHATURDASI and then ran away with Guru's wife Tara. So Lord Shiva

lays curse

> ON THIS TITHI only.

>

> The on AMAVASYA Tara was raped by Chandra ...So KALI MATA lays

curse on this

> tithi and says that women born in this tithi suffer rape and loss

of purity

> and burn inside just as Tara did.

>

> ON PRATIPADA Chandra realised his mistake and returned Tara to

Brihaspati,

> so this is the Tithi for forgiveness and Agni/Gayatri mantra has

the power

> to remove all curses and bring forgiveness. Use Tulsi mala for

Gayatri

> mantra to get good results while red coral mala is the best as

Tulsi has

> Agni in it. Agni is Brahmana Guru

>

> That should clarify

>

> No curse on Tithi in sukla paksha

>

> Best Regards

>

> Sanjay Rath

>

> sohamsa@ .com

[sohamsa@ .com]

On

Behalf Of

> vinayak tandle

> 11 October 2008 21:54

> sohamsa@ .com

> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA

CHATURDASI BIRTH &

> LINGA PRADIKSHINA

>

> Adarniya Pt Sanjay Rath Guruji Namaste,

>

> Could you please shed light on whether the Anger of Shiva is there

> irrespective of Paksha or it is there only for krishna paksha

chaturdasi

> birth.

>

> Regards

>

> Vinayak P Tandle

>

> --- On Sat, 10/11/08, Sanjay Rath <sjrath wrote:

>

> Sanjay Rath <sjrath

> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

> sohamsa@ .com

> Saturday, October 11, 2008, 9:44 PM

>

> Dear Rashmi

>

> Use a diamond (saptarishi nadi) ..it will improve your finances

considerably

>

> Sanjay

>

> sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]

On Behalf

> Of rashmi patel

> 10 October 2008 09:49

> sohamsa@ .com

> Cc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au

> Fw: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

>

> ----- Forwarded Message ----

> rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >

> sohamsa@ .com

> Cc: heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au

> Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:44:36 PM

> Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

>

> Respected Karuji,

>

> Actually I am so sorry to tell you that I am born on sukal paksh

charurdasi

> [chaudas] a day before purnima or full moon day so please excuse

me I

> accidently put chaturthi its wrong sorry.

>

> I was curious in other conversation going on for krishna paksha so

I ask on

> my shukla paksha effects for chaudas born, but intresting thing is

you had

> answered my question for chaturthi & the explanation of 6th house

& ketu &

> mercury conjuction, well I have similar conjuction let me tell you

my

> kundali so you will understand it exactly

>

> my details DATE=12/may/ 57 TIME 04;25 AM PLACE=ADEN [yemen]

>

> Mesh lagna & in Mesh=sun,mercury, ketu,Vrishabh= venus,Gemini=

mars,leo=

> jupiter,Tula= moon,rahu, Scorpio=saturn

>

> so see here I have mercury,ketu conjuction is this bad??so tell me

what you

> think on my kundali any sugestions?

>

> Thank you so much

>

> rashmikant

>

> Karu Heenkenda <heen (AT) netspace (DOT) net.au>

> sohamsa@ .com

> Tuesday, October 7, 2008 10:05:49 PM

> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

>

> Hare Rama Krshna

>

> Dear Rashmi,

>

> Buddhi (Budda) is illegitimate son of Supreme intelligence (Guru)

and the

> day it cause was Krishna Chaturdasi (Fully Dark). Moon also

cursed by

> Ganesha on chaturti and from that date, Moon fluctuates.

>

> The fact is, We all are like Buda, as long as we are learning.

That means we

> all have curse of Guru as well as Ganesha. That is why we are

separated from

> supreme intelligence.

>

> When we want to learn, we must have blessing of Upachaya lords as

> development of DHI comes from Upachaya, 3rd or 6th house. Now see

from

> karaka Mercury. From Gemini 6th house ruled by Ketu, and form

Virgo 3rd

> house ruled by Ketu. If Ketu conjoined Mercury, what development

we can

> expect ? Ganesh simply destroying Mercury, that s all.

>

> So, make it positive, we need to worship Ganesh in the first place

as he

> alone has the key for door. Then, If we want to find the father,

we must

> worship Guru in the form of Shiva, regardless the titi or day we

born. He is

> so kind and one day will keep you on his head, where all streams of

> knowledge starts.

>

> So don't create barriers yourself. Worshiping Ganesh and Shiva is

so

> important. Otherwise we will continue to be same and will be

separated for

> ever.

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Karu

>

> sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]

On Behalf

> Of rashmi patel

> Monday, 22 September 2008 11:09 AM

> sohamsa@ .com

> Re: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

>

> Dear Gurujano,

>

> Please give me more guidence on this chathurdasi birth I am sukla

paksh

> chathurthi birth ok

>

> please let me know too ok

>

> thanks

>

> rashmi

>

> vinayak tandle <vinayakmechie@ <http://. com/>

>

> sohamsa@ .com

> Sunday, September 21, 2008 11:55:36 AM

> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

>

> Adarniya Guruji Namaskar,

>

> Its a great pleasure to get a reply from you. Guruji you have

mentioned that

> the Krishna Chaturdasi birth has the anger of shiva. Whether for

Sukla

> Chaturdasi too there is Anger of Shiva.My birth is in Sukla

chaturdasi.

> Vistiji mentions that the Anger of lord shiva is there

irrespective of

> PAksh, Please clarify. If you could please analyse my chart for

the same

> whether I have cheated guru in my past birth & remedies.

>

> DOB: 17 April 1981

>

> TOB: 14:10 PM

>

> POB: Belgaum, Karnatak India.

>

> Life Event: Death of Father on 4 Feb 1996

>

> Joined the JOB on: 30 Dec 2004

>

> Eagerly waiting for your blessings

>

> Regards

>

> --- On Sun, 9/21/08, Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com>

wrote:

>

> Pt.Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) sohamsa (DOT) com>

> RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

> PRADIKSHINA

> sohamsa@ .com

> Sunday, September 21, 2008, 2:47 PM

>

> om gurave namah

>

> Dear Vinayaka

>

> Technically this tithi is ruled by Venus and Chandra loses his

senses and

> goes to the house of Guru Brihaspati as a false shishya on Krishna

> Chaturdasi and later abducts TÃ¤rÃ¤ on Amavasya. This tithi

symbolizes all the

> cheating and falsity one does towards a guru â€“ siksha or diksha

guru and

> this is normally indicated as the darker side of the Asura guru

Shukra

> (Venus).

>

> Lord Shiva is the protector of all the gurus and is the Paramesthi

guru

> Himself ...see Shiva Puraana for details of panchashari dikshaa

for more

> details.

>

> Guru, praatpara guru, parama guru and parameshthi guru are the

four levels.

>

> Chandra gets cursed by Lord Shiva due to this terrible sin of

cheating the

> Guru of all the devas and consequently this tithi carries the sin

showing

> that one born on Krishna Chaturdashi has the sin of cheating a

guru in a

> past incarnation. So in this life they will naturally have to be

very

> careful and not repeat the same mistake. They should atone for the

sin and

> the best remedy is the Shri Somanatha Puja as taught by Shri

Krishna.

>

> Somanatha is the laaTa of Lord Shiva and the highest jyotirlingam

>

> Full Shiva Lingam pradakshina is prohibited as one crosses the

shakti line

> (normally facing east or north) inside the temple, so this an be

done

> outside the temple.

>

> Recitation of 1 crore panchakshari mantra is a very good remedy. I

believe

> in japa in Kali yuga

>

> With best wishes,

>

> Sanjay Rath

>

> 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, Delhi, India 110060

>

> www.srath.com <http://www.srath. com/>

, www.. org,

www.sohamsa.

> com

>

> vinayak tandle [vinayakmech ie ]

> Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:56 AM

> sohamsa@ .com; vedic astrology;

>

> ANGER OF SHIVA FOR CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA

PRADIKSHINA

>

> Dear Gurujans

>

> Please elaborate why there is anger of shiva on Chaturdasi birth.

Shivlinga

> Pradikshina to be done half or full & the reason if pradikshina

has to be

> done half.

>

> Regards

>

> Vinayak P Tandle

>

Get your new Email address!

Grab the Email name you've always wanted before someone else does!

RE: ANGER OF SHIVA FOR KRISHNA/SHUKLA CHATURDASI BIRTH & LINGA PRADIKSHINA

Recommended Posts

Guest guest

Link to comment

Share on other sites

Guest guest

Link to comment

Share on other sites

Guest guest

Link to comment

Share on other sites

Guest guest

Link to comment

Share on other sites

Guest guest

Link to comment

Share on other sites

Guest guest

Link to comment

Share on other sites

Guest guest

Link to comment

Share on other sites

Guest guest

Link to comment

Share on other sites

Guest guest

Link to comment

Share on other sites

Guest guest

Link to comment

Share on other sites

Guest guest

Link to comment

Share on other sites

Guest guest

Link to comment

Share on other sites

Guest guest

Link to comment

Share on other sites

Guest guest

Link to comment

Share on other sites

Join the conversation

Support the Ashram

Join Groups

Top Downloads