Guest guest Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Dear Narasimha, I am wondering if Parashara ck option /or 'independent, 'third' option, whatever/ will be added to CK options on JH? /JH calculates 7 and 8 ck, but not Parasara's ck/ /either/or/depending on the degree. among two planets on the same degree, planet that wins settles for a lower portfolio. higher one belongs to shtira karaka then. As you see I work tirelessly on this important issue. Mulling over examples you use, it seems it is more beneficial not to have planets on the same degree/thus Rahu included. Overstretching? CK Dasa seems to work. I'd like to know if, in your experience, this works with Vimsottari D. as well? I don't see any reason not to... Sorry for my impatience and for asking too many Q...That's me, LOL. Thanks. Love, Anna --- On Thu, 10/23/08, Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr wrote: Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr Parasara on Chara Karakas: An Independent Interpretationsohamsa , vedic astrology , , sjc-guru , sjcBoston Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 12:59 PM Namaste friends,Here is the promised article on chara karakas. I have no pretensions that I got it correct. But this is based on an honest attempt to purge all preconceived notions from the mind and approach Parasara's verses with a fresh and unbiased mind.In my view, neither the 7 chara karaka school nor the 8 chara karaka school got Parasara correct. Parasara taught that 7 chara karakas should be used in some charts and 8 chara karakas in some charts and clearly described when to use what.I am trying to share whatever I was able to understand by reading Parasara's exposition on chara karakas with an open mind and then experimenting. If you think my interpretation has some worth in it, please use it, experiment, benefit and spread the knowledge. If not, just leave it.I have uploaded a detailed article on chara karakas on my website. It describes the calculation with 16 examples, covering various cases. Apart from defining chara karaka calculation, this article also defines and uses a dasa called "Karaka dasa" that was taught by Parasara for the purpose of timing events using chara karakas. Please download the following PDF file if interested:http://VedicAstrolo ger.org/articles /c_karaka. pdfIf you find the article useful, please feel free to forward this link to those who may be interested.Krishnaarpanamastu,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpanaSpirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomFree Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Namaste, Yes, I can include this option in the next release of JHora, which is coming soon. I wouldn't say it is good or bad to not have Rahu as a chara karaka. There are great saints as well as materially successful people with 7 karakas and also with 8 karakas. How much progress India makes under a given government does not depend on how many ministers are there in that particular cabinet. It depends on how they work together, how good the Prime Minister is and how well the key members of cabinet work with Prime Minister. Of course, chara karakas are useful with several dasas like nakshatra dasas, chara dasa, Narayana dasa etc. But "karaka dasa" taught by Parasara is specifically for the purpose of timing the dominant influence of chara karakas in one's life. It is a simple dasa to calculate manually and, as you can see from the examples, it seems to be quite powerful in identifying important phases in life. Best regards,NarasimhaDo a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org sohamsa , 108ar <bona_mente wrote:>> Dear Narasimha,> > I am wondering if Parashara ck option > /or 'independent, 'third' option, whatever/ will be added to CK options on JH?> > /JH calculates 7 and 8 ck, but not Parasara's ck/> > /either/or/depending on the degree. among two planets on the same degree, planet that wins settles for a lower portfolio. higher one belongs to shtira karaka then. > > As you see I work tirelessly on this important issue.> Mulling over examples you use, it seems it is more beneficial not to have planets on the same degree/thus Rahu included. Overstretching?> > CK Dasa seems to work. I'd like to know if, in your experience, this works with Vimsottari D. as well? I don't see any reason not to...> > Sorry for my impatience and for asking too many Q...> That's me, LOL.> > Thanks.> > Love,> > Anna > > --- On Thu, 10/23/08, Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr wrote:> > Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr> Parasara on Chara Karakas: An Independent Interpretation> sohamsa , vedic astrology , , sjc-guru , sjcBoston > Thursday, October 23, 2008, 12:59 PM> > Namaste friends,> > Here is the promised article on chara karakas. I have no pretensions that I got it correct. But this is based on an honest attempt to purge all preconceived notions from the mind and approach Parasara's verses with a fresh and unbiased mind.> > In my view, neither the 7 chara karaka school nor the 8 chara karaka school got Parasara correct. Parasara taught that 7 chara karakas should be used in some charts and 8 chara karakas in some charts and clearly described when to use what.> > I am trying to share whatever I was able to understand by reading Parasara's exposition on chara karakas with an open mind and then experimenting. If you think my interpretation has some worth in it, please use it, experiment, benefit and spread the knowledge. If not, just leave it.> > I have uploaded a detailed article on chara karakas on my website. It describes the calculation with 16 examples, covering various cases. Apart from defining chara karaka calculation, this article also defines and uses a dasa called "Karaka dasa" that was taught by Parasara for the purpose of timing events using chara karakas. Please download the following PDF file if interested:> > http://VedicAstrologer.org/articles/c_karaka.pdf> > If you find the article useful, please feel free to forward this link to those who may be interested.> > Krishnaarpanamastu,> Narasimha> -------------------------> Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana> Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org> ------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 namaste Garu !!! my suggetions- pl. integrate this option (3RD Option for CK and Karak Dasha) in JH realese when Guru is Vrischik Navamansha (from 4th Nov to 22 Nov). - Guru will be in 12th Navamansha (Giver of Knowledge) - He is with Saturn again in D9 - In Navamansha there will be Parivartana between Ketu & Guru you are better judge. Warm Regards, yours, Utpal sohamsa , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote: > > Namaste, > > Yes, I can include this option in the next release of JHora, which is coming soon. > > I wouldn't say it is good or bad to not have Rahu as a chara karaka. There are great saints as well as materially successful people with 7 karakas and also with 8 karakas. > > How much progress India makes under a given government does not depend on how many ministers are there in that particular cabinet. It depends on how they work together, how good the Prime Minister is and how well the key members of cabinet work with Prime Minister. > > Of course, chara karakas are useful with several dasas like nakshatra dasas, chara dasa, Narayana dasa etc. But " karaka dasa " taught by Parasara is specifically for the purpose of timing the dominant influence of chara karakas in one's life. It is a simple dasa to calculate manually and, as you can see from the examples, it seems to be quite powerful in identifying important phases in life. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > Spirituality: > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > sohamsa , 108ar <bona_mente@> wrote: > > > > Dear Narasimha, > > > > I am wondering if Parashara ck option > > /or 'independent, 'third' option, whatever/ will be added to CK options on JH? > > > > /JH calculates 7 and 8 ck, but not Parasara's ck/ > > > > /either/or/depending on the degree. among two planets on the same degree, planet that wins settles for a lower portfolio. higher one belongs to shtira karaka then. > > > > As you see I work tirelessly on this important issue. > > Mulling over examples you use, it seems it is more beneficial not to have planets on the same degree/thus Rahu included. Overstretching? > > > > CK Dasa seems to work. I'd like to know if, in your experience, this works with Vimsottari D. as well? I don't see any reason not to... > > > > Sorry for my impatience and for asking too many Q... > > That's me, LOL. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Love, > > > > Anna > > > > --- On Thu, 10/23/08, Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr@> wrote: > > > > Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr@> > > Parasara on Chara Karakas: An Independent Interpretation > > sohamsa , vedic astrology , , sjc-guru , sjcBoston > > Thursday, October 23, 2008, 12:59 PM > > > > Namaste friends, > > > > Here is the promised article on chara karakas. I have no pretensions that I got it correct. But this is based on an honest attempt to purge all preconceived notions from the mind and approach Parasara's verses with a fresh and unbiased mind. > > > > In my view, neither the 7 chara karaka school nor the 8 chara karaka school got Parasara correct. Parasara taught that 7 chara karakas should be used in some charts and 8 chara karakas in some charts and clearly described when to use what. > > > > I am trying to share whatever I was able to understand by reading Parasara's exposition on chara karakas with an open mind and then experimenting. If you think my interpretation has some worth in it, please use it, experiment, benefit and spread the knowledge. If not, just leave it. > > > > I have uploaded a detailed article on chara karakas on my website. It describes the calculation with 16 examples, covering various cases. Apart from defining chara karaka calculation, this article also defines and uses a dasa called " Karaka dasa " that was taught by Parasara for the purpose of timing events using chara karakas. Please download the following PDF file if interested: > > > > http://VedicAstrologer.org/articles/c_karaka.pdf > > > > If you find the article useful, please feel free to forward this link to those who may be interested. > > > > Krishnaarpanamastu, > > Narasimha > > ------------------------- > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana > > Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org > > ------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 namaste, questions: - Does it mean that the rule of planet loosing out applies to the portfolios of AMK & Later? - There may not be fight for AK portfolio as that position needs to be matched upto seconds? it means the planet with lesser minutes or seconds will not go out of ministry on that account. right? - what if for AK Position, 2 planets are having same time stamp i.e. even seconds and prati-seconds are also same. in that case, what can be considered? the same situation is true for planets having same time stamp for any portfolio. I hope i was clear in my queries. yours, utpal sohamsa , " utpal pathak " <vedic_pathak wrote: > > namaste Garu !!! > > my suggetions- > > pl. integrate this option (3RD Option for CK and Karak Dasha) in JH > realese when Guru is Vrischik Navamansha (from 4th Nov to 22 Nov). > > - Guru will be in 12th Navamansha (Giver of Knowledge) > - He is with Saturn again in D9 > - In Navamansha there will be Parivartana between Ketu & Guru > > you are better judge. > > Warm Regards, > > yours, > > Utpal > > > sohamsa , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@> > wrote: > > > > Namaste, > > > > Yes, I can include this option in the next release of JHora, which > is coming soon. > > > > I wouldn't say it is good or bad to not have Rahu as a chara > karaka. There are great saints as well as materially successful > people with 7 karakas and also with 8 karakas. > > > > How much progress India makes under a given government does not > depend on how many ministers are there in that particular cabinet. > It depends on how they work together, how good the Prime Minister is > and how well the key members of cabinet work with Prime Minister. > > > > Of course, chara karakas are useful with several dasas like > nakshatra dasas, chara dasa, Narayana dasa etc. But " karaka dasa " > taught by Parasara is specifically for the purpose of timing the > dominant influence of chara karakas in one's life. It is a simple > dasa to calculate manually and, as you can see from the examples, it > seems to be quite powerful in identifying important phases in life. > > > > Best regards, > > Narasimha > > -------------------------------- - > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > > Spirituality: > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > -------------------------------- - > > > > sohamsa , 108ar <bona_mente@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Narasimha, > > > > > > I am wondering if Parashara ck option > > > /or 'independent, 'third' option, whatever/ will be added to CK > options on JH? > > > > > > /JH calculates 7 and 8 ck, but not Parasara's ck/ > > > > > > /either/or/depending on the degree. among two planets on the > same degree, planet that wins settles for a lower portfolio. higher > one belongs to shtira karaka then. > > > > > > As you see I work tirelessly on this important issue. > > > Mulling over examples you use, it seems it is more beneficial > not to have planets on the same degree/thus Rahu included. > Overstretching? > > > > > > CK Dasa seems to work. I'd like to know if, in your experience, > this works with Vimsottari D. as well? I don't see any reason not > to... > > > > > > Sorry for my impatience and for asking too many Q... > > > That's me, LOL. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/23/08, Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr@> wrote: > > > > > > Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr@> > > > Parasara on Chara Karakas: An Independent > Interpretation > > > sohamsa , vedic astrology , > , sjc-guru , > sjcBoston > > > Thursday, October 23, 2008, 12:59 PM > > > > > > Namaste friends, > > > > > > Here is the promised article on chara karakas. I have no > pretensions that I got it correct. But this is based on an honest > attempt to purge all preconceived notions from the mind and approach > Parasara's verses with a fresh and unbiased mind. > > > > > > In my view, neither the 7 chara karaka school nor the 8 chara > karaka school got Parasara correct. Parasara taught that 7 chara > karakas should be used in some charts and 8 chara karakas in some > charts and clearly described when to use what. > > > > > > I am trying to share whatever I was able to understand by > reading Parasara's exposition on chara karakas with an open mind and > then experimenting. If you think my interpretation has some worth in > it, please use it, experiment, benefit and spread the knowledge. If > not, just leave it. > > > > > > I have uploaded a detailed article on chara karakas on my > website. It describes the calculation with 16 examples, covering > various cases. Apart from defining chara karaka calculation, this > article also defines and uses a dasa called " Karaka dasa " that was > taught by Parasara for the purpose of timing events using chara > karakas. Please download the following PDF file if interested: > > > > > > http://VedicAstrologer.org/articles/c_karaka.pdf > > > > > > If you find the article useful, please feel free to forward this > link to those who may be interested. > > > > > > Krishnaarpanamastu, > > > Narasimha > > > ------------------------- > > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam > > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ > tarpana > > > Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org > > > ------------------------- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Dear Utpal, Hope you don't mind if I try to respond. @bellow your Qs: namaste,questions:- Does it mean that the rule of planet loosing out applies to the portfolios of AMK & Later? @yes- There may not be fight for AK portfolio as that position needs to be matched upto seconds? it means the planet with lesser minutes or seconds will not go out of ministry on that account. right? @right /AK is exception/- what if for AK Position, 2 planets are having same time stamp i.e. even seconds and prati-seconds are also same. in that case, what can be considered?the same situation is true for planets having same time stamp for any portfolio. @I don't know- if it is even theoretically possible? Sounds like splitting the hair, ha ha ckdasa seems to be so elegant and easy method in addressing major issue, one which will dominate the period!In my son's chart, for ex. period when MK dominated exactly corresponds to the real time, followed by PiK- and his father has become 'new culprit' dominating in this period- many other things happened of course, but this is about dominant motive. ------------------------I hope i was clear in my queries.yours,utpal Regards, Annasohamsa@ .com,"utpal pathak" <vedic_pathak@ ...> wrote:>> namaste Garu !!!> > my suggetions-> > pl. integrate this option (3RD Option for CK and Karak Dasha) in JH > realese when Guru is Vrischik Navamansha (from 4th Nov to 22 Nov).> > - Guru will be in 12th Navamansha (Giver of Knowledge)> - He is with Saturn again in D9> - In Navamansha there will be Parivartana between Ketu & Guru> > you are better judge.> > Warm Regards,> > yours,> > Utpal> > > sohamsa@ .com, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@> > wrote:> >> > Namaste,> > > > Yes, I can include this option in the next release of JHora, which > is coming soon.> > > > I wouldn't say it is good or bad to not have Rahu as a chara > karaka. There are great saints as well as materially successful > people with 7 karakas and also with 8 karakas.> > > > How much progress India makes under a given government does not > depend on how many ministers are there in that particular cabinet. > It depends on how they work together, how good the Prime Minister is > and how well the key members of cabinet work with Prime Minister.> > > > Of course, chara karakas are useful with several dasas like > nakshatra dasas, chara dasa, Narayana dasa etc. But "karaka dasa" > taught by Parasara is specifically for the purpose of timing the > dominant influence of chara karakas in one's life. It is a simple > dasa to calculate manually and, as you can see from the examples, it > seems to be quite powerful in identifying important phases in life.> > > > Best regards,> > Narasimha> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --> > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam> > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana> > Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- > > > > sohamsa@ .com, 108ar <bona_mente@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Narasimha,> > > > > > I am wondering if Parashara ck option > > > /or 'independent, 'third' option, whatever/ will be added to CK > options on JH?> > > > > > /JH calculates 7 and 8 ck, but not Parasara's ck/> > > > > > /either/or/dependin g on the degree. among two planets on the > same degree, planet that wins settles for a lower portfolio. higher > one belongs to shtira karaka then. > > > > > > As you see I work tirelessly on this important issue.> > > Mulling over examples you use, it seems it is more beneficial > not to have planets on the same degree/thus Rahu included. > Overstretching?> > > > > > CK Dasa seems to work. I'd like to know if, in your experience, > this works with Vimsottari D. as well? I don't see any reason not > to...> > > > > > Sorry for my impatience and for asking too many Q...> > > That's me, LOL.> > > > > > Thanks.> > > > > > Love,> > > > > > Anna > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/23/08, Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr@> wrote:> > > > > > Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr@>> > > Parasara on Chara Karakas: An Independent > Interpretation> > > sohamsa@ .com, vedic astrology, > , sjc-guru@ s.com, > sjcBoston@grou ps.com> > > Thursday, October 23, 2008, 12:59 PM> > > > > > Namaste friends,> > > > > > Here is the promised article on chara karakas. I have no > pretensions that I got it correct. But this is based on an honest > attempt to purge all preconceived notions from the mind and approach > Parasara's verses with a fresh and unbiased mind.> > > > > > In my view, neither the 7 chara karaka school nor the 8 chara > karaka school got Parasara correct. Parasara taught that 7 chara > karakas should be used in some charts and 8 chara karakas in some > charts and clearly described when to use what.> > > > > > I am trying to share whatever I was able to understand by > reading Parasara's exposition on chara karakas with an open mind and > then experimenting. If you think my interpretation has some worth in > it, please use it, experiment, benefit and spread the knowledge. If > not, just leave it.> > > > > > I have uploaded a detailed article on chara karakas on my > website. It describes the calculation with 16 examples, covering > various cases. Apart from defining chara karaka calculation, this > article also defines and uses a dasa called "Karaka dasa" that was > taught by Parasara for the purpose of timing events using chara > karakas. Please download the following PDF file if interested:> > > > > > http://VedicAstrolo ger.org/articles /c_karaka. pdf> > > > > > If you find the article useful, please feel free to forward this > link to those who may be interested.> > > > > > Krishnaarpanamastu,> > > Narasimha> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam> > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ > tarpana> > > Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom> > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net> > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org> > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Kindly advice as to the application of the principle of C K vis a vis the attached chart. Sun and Mars are at 23 degrees and Jupiter /Venus at 7 degrees. The native is unmarried, has a hereditary (maternal) bleeding disorder (hemophilia), mother died in jan 2006 (dob 13.2.1931) of breast cancer, father in mar 2002 of heart attack (dob 24.6.1926). Was close to mother and did not marry so can take good care of her. Mother bedridden since nov 2004. Fond of occult studies. Having business in foreign goods, but not prospering. What are future career prospects as a handwriting expert/yoga instructor/life coach; and marital prospects. Please throw light using narayan, and other dashas also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Dear Narasimha, 1. The 7-CK scheme in jhora as of now is presumably not Parasari - it shows PK instead of PiK - which school is it? 2. How should the AD and PD etc be calculated in Karaka Dasa? The interpretation of death period that you have given can presumably be narrowed down to smaller periods. 3. You have mentioned that 12th from AK in navamsa can be one of the periods when death can occur (apart from 3rd or 8th from AK). Would it mean that all those who died in this period (related to 12th from AK) would have attained moksha (at some level or the other if not the final one)? Why wouldnt we consider 3rd/8th/12th/maraka from AK in rasi for physical body, rather than see navamsa for death? Please can you explain. Many Thanx and Best Regards, SS sohamsa , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote: > > Namaste, > > Yes, I can include this option in the next release of JHora, which is coming soon. > > I wouldn't say it is good or bad to not have Rahu as a chara karaka. There are great saints as well as materially successful people with 7 karakas and also with 8 karakas. > > How much progress India makes under a given government does not depend on how many ministers are there in that particular cabinet. It depends on how they work together, how good the Prime Minister is and how well the key members of cabinet work with Prime Minister. > > Of course, chara karakas are useful with several dasas like nakshatra dasas, chara dasa, Narayana dasa etc. But " karaka dasa " taught by Parasara is specifically for the purpose of timing the dominant influence of chara karakas in one's life. It is a simple dasa to calculate manually and, as you can see from the examples, it seems to be quite powerful in identifying important phases in life. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > Spirituality: > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > sohamsa , 108ar <bona_mente@> wrote: > > > > Dear Narasimha, > > > > I am wondering if Parashara ck option > > /or 'independent, 'third' option, whatever/ will be added to CK options on JH? > > > > /JH calculates 7 and 8 ck, but not Parasara's ck/ > > > > /either/or/depending on the degree. among two planets on the same degree, planet that wins settles for a lower portfolio. higher one belongs to shtira karaka then. > > > > As you see I work tirelessly on this important issue. > > Mulling over examples you use, it seems it is more beneficial not to have planets on the same degree/thus Rahu included. Overstretching? > > > > CK Dasa seems to work. I'd like to know if, in your experience, this works with Vimsottari D. as well? I don't see any reason not to... > > > > Sorry for my impatience and for asking too many Q... > > That's me, LOL. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Love, > > > > Anna > > > > --- On Thu, 10/23/08, Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr@> wrote: > > > > Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr@> > > Parasara on Chara Karakas: An Independent Interpretation > > sohamsa , vedic astrology , , sjc-guru , sjcBoston > > Thursday, October 23, 2008, 12:59 PM > > > > Namaste friends, > > > > Here is the promised article on chara karakas. I have no pretensions that I got it correct. But this is based on an honest attempt to purge all preconceived notions from the mind and approach Parasara's verses with a fresh and unbiased mind. > > > > In my view, neither the 7 chara karaka school nor the 8 chara karaka school got Parasara correct. Parasara taught that 7 chara karakas should be used in some charts and 8 chara karakas in some charts and clearly described when to use what. > > > > I am trying to share whatever I was able to understand by reading Parasara's exposition on chara karakas with an open mind and then experimenting. If you think my interpretation has some worth in it, please use it, experiment, benefit and spread the knowledge. If not, just leave it. > > > > I have uploaded a detailed article on chara karakas on my website. It describes the calculation with 16 examples, covering various cases. Apart from defining chara karaka calculation, this article also defines and uses a dasa called " Karaka dasa " that was taught by Parasara for the purpose of timing events using chara karakas. Please download the following PDF file if interested: > > > > http://VedicAstrologer.org/articles/c_karaka.pdf > > > > If you find the article useful, please feel free to forward this link to those who may be interested. > > > > Krishnaarpanamastu, > > Narasimha > > ------------------------- > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana > > Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org > > ------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Namaste SS, 1. The 7 karaka scheme in JHora right now is Sri KN Rao's method. He uses PK and skips PiK. You may simply replace PK with PiK to get Parasara's 7 karaka scheme. Parasara's mixed 7/8-karaka scheme explained in my article will be available in the next release of JHora. 2. Parasara is quite clear on mahadasas of Karaka dasa, but did not say anything specific about antardasas of Karaka dasa. I programmed several different options in software, tried them out on charts and picked one of them that really stood out. I will share that later by writing a more detailed article on Karaka dasa. The purpose of the current article was to illustrate the calculation of chara karakas and I wanted to demonstrate Karaka dasa atleast at the mahadasa level because it is quite compelling even when used with very simplistic analysis. Those who actually study the article carefully will find Karaka dasa quite interesting. BTW, the purpose of karaka dasa is not just to see death. It is a dasa that shows the effects of chara karakas. I made it a point to illustrate death in all the examples of dead persons in my article, because there is a pattern and I wanted to demonstrate it. 3. No no no. The 12th from AK does not always show moksha. It only shows the soul leaving. IF there are influences conducive to moksha in that house, THEN moksha is possible. It seems like soul is bound to the physical existence through navamsa rather than rasi. BTW, all rules of Karaka dasa interpretation are based on experimentation and Parasara did not explicitly teach anything on that. He only taught mahadasa calculations. In areas left open by Parasara, we are on our own. I will share MY understanding as soon as I can. Krishnaarpanamastu,NarasimhaDo a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homamDo Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpanaSpirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.orgSri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org sohamsa , "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak wrote:>> Dear Narasimha,> > 1. The 7-CK scheme in jhora as of now is presumably not Parasari - it > shows PK instead of PiK - which school is it?> > 2. How should the AD and PD etc be calculated in Karaka Dasa? The > interpretation of death period that you have given can presumably be > narrowed down to smaller periods.> > 3. You have mentioned that 12th from AK in navamsa can be one of the > periods when death can occur (apart from 3rd or 8th from AK). Would > it mean that all those who died in this period (related to 12th from > AK) would have attained moksha (at some level or the other if not the > final one)? Why wouldnt we consider 3rd/8th/12th/maraka from AK in > rasi for physical body, rather than see navamsa for death? Please can > you explain.> > Many Thanx and Best Regards,> SS> > > sohamsa , "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@> > wrote:> >> > Namaste,> > > > Yes, I can include this option in the next release of JHora, which > is coming soon.> > > > I wouldn't say it is good or bad to not have Rahu as a chara > karaka. There are great saints as well as materially successful > people with 7 karakas and also with 8 karakas.> > > > How much progress India makes under a given government does not > depend on how many ministers are there in that particular cabinet. It > depends on how they work together, how good the Prime Minister is and > how well the key members of cabinet work with Prime Minister.> > > > Of course, chara karakas are useful with several dasas like > nakshatra dasas, chara dasa, Narayana dasa etc. But "karaka dasa" > taught by Parasara is specifically for the purpose of timing the > dominant influence of chara karakas in one's life. It is a simple > dasa to calculate manually and, as you can see from the examples, it > seems to be quite powerful in identifying important phases in life.> > > > Best regards,> > Narasimha> > > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam> > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana> > Spirituality: > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org> > > > > > sohamsa , 108ar <bona_mente@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Narasimha,> > > > > > I am wondering if Parashara ck option > > > /or 'independent, 'third' option, whatever/ will be added to CK > options on JH?> > > > > > /JH calculates 7 and 8 ck, but not Parasara's ck/> > > > > > /either/or/depending on the degree. among two planets on the same > degree, planet that wins settles for a lower portfolio. higher one > belongs to shtira karaka then. > > > > > > As you see I work tirelessly on this important issue.> > > Mulling over examples you use, it seems it is more beneficial > not to have planets on the same degree/thus Rahu included. > Overstretching?> > > > > > CK Dasa seems to work. I'd like to know if, in your experience, > this works with Vimsottari D. as well? I don't see any reason not > to...> > > > > > Sorry for my impatience and for asking too many Q...> > > That's me, LOL.> > > > > > Thanks.> > > > > > Love,> > > > > > Anna > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/23/08, Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr@> wrote:> > > > > > Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr@>> > > Parasara on Chara Karakas: An Independent > Interpretation> > > sohamsa , vedic astrology , > , sjc-guru , > sjcBoston > > > Thursday, October 23, 2008, 12:59 PM> > > > > > Namaste friends,> > > > > > Here is the promised article on chara karakas. I have no > pretensions that I got it correct. But this is based on an honest > attempt to purge all preconceived notions from the mind and approach > Parasara's verses with a fresh and unbiased mind.> > > > > > In my view, neither the 7 chara karaka school nor the 8 chara > karaka school got Parasara correct. Parasara taught that 7 chara > karakas should be used in some charts and 8 chara karakas in some > charts and clearly described when to use what.> > > > > > I am trying to share whatever I was able to understand by reading > Parasara's exposition on chara karakas with an open mind and then > experimenting. If you think my interpretation has some worth in it, > please use it, experiment, benefit and spread the knowledge. If not, > just leave it.> > > > > > I have uploaded a detailed article on chara karakas on my > website. It describes the calculation with 16 examples, covering > various cases. Apart from defining chara karaka calculation, this > article also defines and uses a dasa called "Karaka dasa" that was > taught by Parasara for the purpose of timing events using chara > karakas. Please download the following PDF file if interested:> > > > > > http://VedicAstrologer.org/articles/c_karaka.pdf> > > > > > If you find the article useful, please feel free to forward this > link to those who may be interested.> > > > > > Krishnaarpanamastu,> > > Narasimha> > > -------------------------> > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam> > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ > tarpana> > > Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom> > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net> > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org> > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org> > > ------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Dear Narasimha, That's very kind of you - will look forward to that. 3. Any references from Parasara/Jaimini that inidcate that death can be ascertained from Navamsa? 4. Just taking this opportunity to request you to include the calculation of Rudra by Vriddha Karika's method also in subsequent release(s) of Jhora? Many thanx and Best Regards, SS sohamsa , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote: > > Namaste SS, > > 1. The 7 karaka scheme in JHora right now is Sri KN Rao's method. He uses PK and skips PiK. You may simply replace PK with PiK to get Parasara's 7 karaka scheme. > > Parasara's mixed 7/8-karaka scheme explained in my article will be available in the next release of JHora. > > 2. Parasara is quite clear on mahadasas of Karaka dasa, but did not say anything specific about antardasas of Karaka dasa. > > I programmed several different options in software, tried them out on charts and picked one of them that really stood out. I will share that later by writing a more detailed article on Karaka dasa. The purpose of the current article was to illustrate the calculation of chara karakas and I wanted to demonstrate Karaka dasa atleast at the mahadasa level because it is quite compelling even when used with very simplistic analysis. Those who actually study the article carefully will find Karaka dasa quite interesting. > > BTW, the purpose of karaka dasa is not just to see death. It is a dasa that shows the effects of chara karakas. I made it a point to illustrate death in all the examples of dead persons in my article, because there is a pattern and I wanted to demonstrate it. > > 3. No no no. The 12th from AK does not always show moksha. It only shows the soul leaving. IF there are influences conducive to moksha in that house, THEN moksha is possible. > > It seems like soul is bound to the physical existence through navamsa rather than rasi. > > BTW, all rules of Karaka dasa interpretation are based on experimentation and Parasara did not explicitly teach anything on that. He only taught mahadasa calculations. In areas left open by Parasara, we are on our own. I will share MY understanding as soon as I can. > > Krishnaarpanamastu, > Narasimha > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > Spirituality: > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@> wrote: > > > > Dear Narasimha, > > > > 1. The 7-CK scheme in jhora as of now is presumably not Parasari - it > > shows PK instead of PiK - which school is it? > > > > 2. How should the AD and PD etc be calculated in Karaka Dasa? The > > interpretation of death period that you have given can presumably be > > narrowed down to smaller periods. > > > > 3. You have mentioned that 12th from AK in navamsa can be one of the > > periods when death can occur (apart from 3rd or 8th from AK). Would > > it mean that all those who died in this period (related to 12th from > > AK) would have attained moksha (at some level or the other if not the > > final one)? Why wouldnt we consider 3rd/8th/12th/maraka from AK in > > rasi for physical body, rather than see navamsa for death? Please can > > you explain. > > > > Many Thanx and Best Regards, > > SS > > > > > > sohamsa , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > Yes, I can include this option in the next release of JHora, which > > is coming soon. > > > > > > I wouldn't say it is good or bad to not have Rahu as a chara > > karaka. There are great saints as well as materially successful > > people with 7 karakas and also with 8 karakas. > > > > > > How much progress India makes under a given government does not > > depend on how many ministers are there in that particular cabinet. It > > depends on how they work together, how good the Prime Minister is and > > how well the key members of cabinet work with Prime Minister. > > > > > > Of course, chara karakas are useful with several dasas like > > nakshatra dasas, chara dasa, Narayana dasa etc. But " karaka dasa " > > taught by Parasara is specifically for the purpose of timing the > > dominant influence of chara karakas in one's life. It is a simple > > dasa to calculate manually and, as you can see from the examples, it > > seems to be quite powerful in identifying important phases in life. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Narasimha > > > ------------------------------- -- > > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > > > Spirituality: > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > ------------------------------- -- > > > > > > sohamsa , 108ar <bona_mente@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Narasimha, > > > > > > > > I am wondering if Parashara ck option > > > > /or 'independent, 'third' option, whatever/ will be added to CK > > options on JH? > > > > > > > > /JH calculates 7 and 8 ck, but not Parasara's ck/ > > > > > > > > /either/or/depending on the degree. among two planets on the same > > degree, planet that wins settles for a lower portfolio. higher one > > belongs to shtira karaka then. > > > > > > > > As you see I work tirelessly on this important issue. > > > > Mulling over examples you use, it seems it is more beneficial > > not to have planets on the same degree/thus Rahu included. > > Overstretching? > > > > > > > > CK Dasa seems to work. I'd like to know if, in your experience, > > this works with Vimsottari D. as well? I don't see any reason not > > to... > > > > > > > > Sorry for my impatience and for asking too many Q... > > > > That's me, LOL. > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/23/08, Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr@> > > > > Parasara on Chara Karakas: An Independent > > Interpretation > > > > sohamsa , vedic astrology , > > , sjc-guru , > > sjcBoston > > > > Thursday, October 23, 2008, 12:59 PM > > > > > > > > Namaste friends, > > > > > > > > Here is the promised article on chara karakas. I have no > > pretensions that I got it correct. But this is based on an honest > > attempt to purge all preconceived notions from the mind and approach > > Parasara's verses with a fresh and unbiased mind. > > > > > > > > In my view, neither the 7 chara karaka school nor the 8 chara > > karaka school got Parasara correct. Parasara taught that 7 chara > > karakas should be used in some charts and 8 chara karakas in some > > charts and clearly described when to use what. > > > > > > > > I am trying to share whatever I was able to understand by reading > > Parasara's exposition on chara karakas with an open mind and then > > experimenting. If you think my interpretation has some worth in it, > > please use it, experiment, benefit and spread the knowledge. If not, > > just leave it. > > > > > > > > I have uploaded a detailed article on chara karakas on my > > website. It describes the calculation with 16 examples, covering > > various cases. Apart from defining chara karaka calculation, this > > article also defines and uses a dasa called " Karaka dasa " that was > > taught by Parasara for the purpose of timing events using chara > > karakas. Please download the following PDF file if interested: > > > > > > > > http://VedicAstrologer.org/articles/c_karaka.pdf > > > > > > > > If you find the article useful, please feel free to forward this > > link to those who may be interested. > > > > > > > > Krishnaarpanamastu, > > > > Narasimha > > > > ------------------------- > > > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam > > > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ > > tarpana > > > > Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net > > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org > > > > ------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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