Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Namaste Guruji There are many situations when an archarya is used to do the jab on behalf of another person,(or e.g mother doing jap on behalf of child) in this case how is the energy from mantra transmitted to the required person from the archarya? How does sankalp help in this process? hariom shubha sohamsa , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote: > > Namaste SS, > > Sabda (loosely translated as sound or vibration) has 4 levels - vaikhari, madhyama, pastanti and para. When moving parts of our gross body (e.g. lips) move the gross bodies of objects around us (particles in air) and this vibration is perceived by the senses attached to the gross bodies of people around us (e.g. ears), that vibration is at the level of vaikhari. When we are talking about pronunciation of mantras, we are essentially talking about vaikhari. > > But we are not just our sthoola sareera (gross body). There is also a sookshma sareera (subtle body), kaarana sareera (causal body) and finally MahaKaarana sareera (cosmic body). Just as vibration in sthoola sareera creates vaikhari, vibrations in other levels also create vibrations at other levels. > > The image you have in mind when you chant a mantra and the thoughts you are thinking when you chant a mantra go towards shaping the subtle vibrations behind a mantra. They vibrate the space around you at the subtle level. > > Once you cause of vibration of space around you (at gross or subtle level), it is there. One with an ability to perceive it can perceive it. Of course, the deity of your mantra does not receive just the gross vibration produced by you, but receives and responds to the entirety of the vibrations produced by you at all levels. > > Vaikhari is the least powerful level and para is the most powerful level. > > All the scholarly preoccupation with the correct pronunciation etc is a little trite. The devotion, sense of surrender and the ability to create the correct mental images and correct thoughts to accompany the chanting of the mantra are far more important. > > Of course, it is helpful to pronounce the mantra correctly too. I am not saying ignore the correct pronunciation. Do your BEST to get it correct. But all I am saying is that that plays a small part and a bigger part is played by other factors which are often ignored. Do NOT ignore those. > > Secondly, being a child as opposed to an arrogant scholar helps with gods. If you can be like a child who is lost by parents at a fair and crying for them, it is easier to find god. As a matter of fact, we ARE almost like a clueless little children left by parents at the fair (of samsara)! > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > Spirituality: > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > > Dear Arpad, > > > > This is a very interesting acount you have given. It also raises a > > rhetoric question whether water ceases to exist as water if called > > paani, aab etc. This is so far as gross items go. > > > > For mantras that act at a subtle level there can be 2 veiws or more: > > > > 1. Correct pronunciation is a must (why then is there emphasis on the > > same while reciting vedas etc.) - or else rakshati and bhakshati can > > yeild different results (wonder if someone really evaluated that) > > > > 2. Meaning/Essence of the mantra should be understood and the effect > > thus proceeds from there. > > > > Both veiws may be right in their own way. > > > > A prayer may have no words, yet can be effective. > > > > Example of Valmiki reciting Mara-Mara is popular - whichever category > > that one falls in! > > > > Thanx for your time. > > > > Best Regards, > > SS > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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